New Rory & MAL - Episode 533 | Starfish

Episode Date: August 18, 2026

Happy Monday! Baby D kicks off this episode in search of tickets for “The Odyssey”, while the guys give their takes on what the musical lineup should look like for the Democratic National Convention. Orlando Brown makes his boxing debut against Ray J, and Claressa Shields cements herself as the GOAT in women' s boxing. Pitchfork gives Tyga’s new album their first 0.0 rating in over 19 years, which brings up a debate about the usage and sustainability of AI in music, and J.Cole gets emotional at the Cleveland stop on his tour. We take some calls, one from a listener curious about spinning the block with an ex, and another who is concerned about being too obsessed with maintaining her peace. Finally, we send our condolences to Hayden Panettiere, who sadly passed away at age 36 on Sunday.  Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are back. We are back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text, and data. We have to get out of here so Demaris can go see Odyssey. And welcome back, DeMaris, welcome back, Ryan. Welcome back, Ryan. Fund's over, guys.

Stop playing with him, Ryan. I came back last week. I know, but you're like backpack, I feel like. Okay. Peach got to be fucking killed on Reddit. For what? Because he... I've checked out in years.

He posted... I usually don't either, but he posted. posted me, like, laying on the couch when he was asking about race my mind, like the Drake thing. And, like, you know, my dress was up a little bit, but we had, we were done recording. Y'all were in the other room. I'm on the phone and Peach comes with a camera. And they're like, like, Demaris is doing too much anything for Netflix views. They're like, I'm like, damn, I'm selling ass for Netflix views now.

Demaris be doing the most, man. That's crazy. I'm just laying there. Doing the least while doing the most. I literally wasn't doing shit. Like, work was over. Like, y'all in the other room? I'm chilling on the phone?

Like, that's a lot of thought. baby D. I didn't know that. I didn't know that ham hoc was laying out like that. I didn't know you had the hocks out though. With a perfect split of the dress. Yeah, because I ain't, I ain't see that. Because y'all were in the, my point. And who you was on FaceTime with? Yeah, because that's like a, I know what that is. Like when they lay like that on FaceTime and show that hawk right there, that's a good, that's a good lather you got on there. What's that body butter? Shimmering. I know when it's body butter and not lotion. I know I can tell the difference. That's butter right there. The light hits a little. You put the butter on that. You put the butter on

I get it. All right, baby, did I see you? Yeah. Got to ham the hawk. Now, that's doing the most. Peach came with the, how was it? Peach came over to me with the camera when we were done filming. No, he wasn't doing the most for the show.

You was doing the most on FaceTime. We were having the conversation about Drake Race My Mind versus Jaded. Oh, okay. And that's when he was recording y'all arguing and then he came to ask my opinion with the camera. Got you. Okay. They claim I was selling myself, selling myself for y'all.

Oh, okay. Well, no, you wasn't selling yourself. No. We weren't, nothing was being. recorded. No. And we were. The Peach thing.

I woke up in the morning and saw that. Yeah, we were about to leave for the day. That's, it's really Pete's fault because, yeah, we need to paywall that die. We can't just be given that. Yeah, that's that die right there. Yeah, you can't. That's not. Come on.

You can't put that in the reddish thing. It's to be so. Yeah, come on. Yeah, come on. Yeah, come on. And then the YouTube clip, apparently I'm twirling my toes. So there's that. Peage has been having a ball with his camera angles.

You know he's got a secret folder somewhere on that. He was twirling your toes. I was like, you know how when you twirl your feet but you're not paying attention? Like, I didn't notice I was doing it until the YouTube clip. They started pointing it out on. Oh, I mean, yeah, that's, I mean, that's natural, real.

It's all good. It's peach, peach selling, selling feet. Selling feet posts. All right, listen, man, it is what it is. Yeah. Well, DeMars bought the wheelchair ticket to Odyssey for 5 p.m. Yes. Finally.

So I'll be the only one left that didn't see. You saw it, right? You didn't see it either. No. I would go, but I wanted to do, like, laundry and shit today. Mind you, I invited them all to go with me once again. At five, I can't go at five. Why can't you go at five? Because I got shit to do

between five and eight, eight-thirty. Yeah, slammed. Like, I can't, I didn't plan to be in the theater for three hours at five o'clock. Like, that's like, Odyssey is a thing. That's like a trip. And you bought the wheelchair seat. Like, what, Ma would have to sit Indian style on the ground or some shit? I bought, where's Ma's sitting? There's two

companion seats next to each other. Oh, okay. That's a good thing. I try to get rid of the room. We just cut that out. The game is to be so, not told. People don't even know that you can do that. A lot of people didn't even know you could do that. Feege was just saying on video,

there's people walking out of the theater with their wheelchairs. Yeah, you go get a wheelchair just for the movie. Yeah, people know. You get up from the wheelchair to go to the bathroom for the movies just leaving the wheelchair there. It's fucking hilarious.

Yeah, man. Compagnancy's all right. Yeah, nobody's sitting next to you. You got a lot of room. A lot of space. That's like sitting in the emergency row. Yeah. On a flight.

Mad space. Do mad shit. I can lay down. right here if I want to where they don't tell you anything different they just ask like you feel like saving people yeah like in the event of an emergency don't tell me how are you willing to help yes after I get out lady you know nothing about me I'm selfish I should not have this seat yeah like I'm a vet this person I'm a raging alcoholic I don't think that's another I've definitely been in the emergency row and gotten alcohol yeah like how is that allowed I'm full Bloody Mary's

in I don't think I want me to see I got to pull up down how do I don't Fully shit. I'll pull bloody Mary's in on the way to out. I don't think you want me to help. In that situation, no, sobriety would kick in. Yeah.

You'd be all right. Sober up real quick. Oh, yeah. It was going to sleep through it. No, I'm the worst because I'm going to sleep through it. Y'all going to be tapping me.

I'm going to be like, what's going on? I'm playing on its way down, baby. Yeah, you ain't sleeping. Shit. You ain't sleeping through that. You ain't sleeping through that. It's a little too crazy.

I'll wake up. Hell, I'm right now. Let's get above this air pocket. He said, I know. I know. When that shit get a little too crazy and they start,

they got to put the snacks back. Yeah, when they get like that, I'm like, all right, all, all, fam. Let's go up to $32,000 or something. Let's get over this head pocket. We had, we had, uh, air pocket. I was going to Atlanta years and years ago. Sky's friendly as fuck.

Niceest skies I've ever seen. Skies friendly as fuck as that. We hit a fucking air pocket. The person that was in the bathroom separated their shoulder. Yeah. Like, we were wearing everything that was, the drinks had just been. served. Everyone started wearing those immediately.

Then they got on the fucking loudspeaker. Is anyone a doctor? Somebody's shoulder got separated in the bathroom. Pilot never said a word. Yeah, no. Like you're not just going to address what the fuck? Just that? Yeah, man. Why, it's just a little air pocket. It's like hitting a pothole. I'll take that over the I hate funny pilots.

Like, don't, just keep your eyes on the road, bro. Don't get on the speaker trying to be funny. Like, my heart is pumping. I like those pilots, man. I like pilots that got humor. Because they know, like, it's an it's an unspoken thing when you get on the flight, everybody's kind of like, you know, we've all seen the movies. Okay, but listen, most of them are like retired Navy pilots that flew in Korea.

Like, they're used to like scary things. But this is, for me, this is scary. Yeah, but that's this. I'm not a fighter pilot. You need a little humor when you're scared. So it'll put you at ease. Like, listen, man, it's all right. What's worse?

The funny pilot or the, um, the flight waitress that sings? No, the stewardess that sings is way worse. Please, man. Just bring. Just shut the fuck up. Yeah. I've never heard a singing. Just bring more bisgolfs.

Had it multiple times. Just bring more bisgoffs and shut up, man. Like that's, just bring the bisgops and be quiet, man. Nobody wants to hear that. Oh, and then you get sometimes the overly Texas stewardess that when you land all of a sudden has like a cowboy accent.

And it's like, I get it. We're in Austin. Yeah. This isn't the rodeo. I'm trying to Texas too much. If the Democratic National Convention was tomorrow, do y'all think that if Kamala Harris was running, she would have Young Miami perform spin that?

I mean, she needs to raise money. I want 100% think she would. No, I think she learned her lesson from Meg. No, no, no. They got killed for that. They got killed. If the Meg thing never happened, would a young Miami be asked to perform? No, probably.

I don't think so. I want 100% think she would be invited to perform. Yeah, I mean, they weren't above Meg twerking. And I don't think there's anything wrong with twerking, but, you know, when you're losing in a political race, I don't know that's the best strategy. I don't think they knew how much. how much Meg was going to twerk. I don't think they were prepared for that. Do you think there was a twerk meter?

Because like Meg's lyrics, like the songs she were performing were like her more commercial songs. The lyrics went that bad. She was performing body. Body is not. Yeah, but what I'm saying is the lyrics. I think the people who vetted that probably vetted the lyrics of the music more than the performance and the lyrics to body

are not as bad as where all my scamming ass niggas at. Yeah, but the hook to me that's perfect for the Democratic National Convention. Everyone can raise their hands. they're right here. They just do that at a Senate Congress, like, just have her there and all of them together. Yeah, spend that shit, spend that budget, man. Yeah.

Fuck up the deficit. Trump giving out stock tips for 100 grand on, bro, like, the scam is it a scam if it's right in your face. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, let's just go all the way now. We all know. We all know what's happening. We all know we're being scammed.

They're taking our tax dollars. None of us care. It is what it is. Like, what are we going to do? Who cares now? Not living America? that Trump and his sons and other crypto kings. Yeah, no, but who cares?

Let young Miami get that look at the D&C. Why not? But they shouldn't, like, the hook to body is an audio version of twerking. It's body, adi, adi, like, that's just ass shaking. Yeah, that's like body. Like, yeah, let's move our bodies now on the count of three. Look at how I body it up, ate it up and gave it back. Yeah, he thought that they heard those lyrics and was like,

nah, she's not going to twerk. It's like our tax stout. Yeah, you look good, but he still want to know we're Meggin it. Period. Yeah, you look good, but he still want to know where Megan. that. That's a fact. It happens. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I noticed something like it. You ever did that before? What? You ever felt like that before? Like, being with a bad bitch and it's like, ha, I still want to know where my ex at. Nah. Nah. If I'm with a bad, if I'm with a chick that's bad, I'm not thinking about what my ex at. No. I'm thinking about what we'll be about to do. That's when my mind is at. Where we going after? Wait, so if she's subpar, you're now thinking about your ex? Huh? If she's subpared, then you think about your ex? I guess I don't really get to Maris' question.

The question is, have you ever been out with somebody who was like, you know, you've been out with somebody, you know, you're having a good time, but you still miss your ex. Yeah, if you're not over your ex, it doesn't matter what chick is in front of you. I'm still going to be in the varnish. Well, yeah, I'm not saying, like, somebody you don't care about. Like, that was what Megan was bragging about in the line. Like, yeah, you look good, but he still wanted to where I'm at. Yeah, but me, I have the innate ability to hit that delete button, like, you never even exist.

innate ability. Yeah. Because somebody, you know, you don't got that. Oh my God. You don't have the innate ability. I know. I hate this. So don't laugh at me having an innate ability.

No, I think it's, that's my superpower. You ain't out. That's my superpower. I can't delete. All of that shit in the files get deleted. I don't even remember you, Shorty. Like, yeah, that's what I do. No, I'm jealous of the innate ability.

It's a natural skill. See that? It's a natural skill or capacity that a person or animal is born with. I was born with. I was born with an aid ability to hit delete. Like, you never even existed. Really? All jokes aside, though, I hate that I have that, though.

Because I really do have it. I'm not even being funny. Now, let's have therapy right now. Let's have therapy right now. I hate that I have that because it's like, damn. Like, sure he was cool, but it didn't work out. And I don't even remember the last time I thought about her. I think it's good with certain situations that are probably not the best for you.

But I do think in the long run, it may tie into us jokingly saying you haven't been in a long-term relationship in a very long time. I think those two things can be connected because you may easily cut people off when there is somewhat of a red flag right there. So you can never get to the point where you can start loving someone where, you know, you'll forgive a red flag because we all have them. And it just – no, I can love you, but I'm never going to love you more than I love myself. And if I feel like you're playing with me, I'm going to just let you go and play. I'm not going to stop you from playing. Okay. But you can't play with me, though.

But if that person loves themselves the most and they're not playing with you, they're just choosing themselves first. Oh, no, we have that conversation. Okay. Right? And then we get to a point where we understand, we communicate effectively. We know each other's patterns, habits, wants, needs, boundaries, those things. Gotcha. Right.

So then you know what my boundaries are and what my limits are and what I expect from a woman. And I know what you expect from a man. Once you start losing sight of those things in my boundaries and start doing things that are outside of my boundaries, I'm not going to keep having the same conversation. You're just going to look up one day and realize, damn, I ain't supposed to snick in my voice. Like, all right. Yeah. Fair. I just think maybe.

The innate ability. Maybe having the innate ability to open some of those boundaries and be more understanding in certain things. Maybe not take it personal that they're not playing with you. They're just choosing themselves. No, but you know what somebody's playing with you. Well, of course. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. When you know she's playing with you? Like not, you're not clear. You don't

really know. I'm talking about what you know like, all right, she's nasty with me. Yeah. You've got to choose yourself first. Don't be socially lazy. See, I've been I've been at a few years in my life, socially lazy. You get comfortable with just, you know, you don't want to meet nobody new because it's like it's a whole process again. So you deal with, you deal with what it's in front of you and all of those things.

Yeah, yeah. But then you get to a point where you're like, no, man, that's why that had no new friendship. I never subscribed to that. Me neither. I don't mind. The social, social laziness phase can be good if channeled correctly. What do you mean? Explain.

Because I do have that social battery of getting to know someone in front. that's just it's a whole process yeah you know telling the same fucking story tell me about your parent like that i'm it's training sometimes but it's worth it if you find somebody that's fair but to constantly do it like can get like that's why i don't understand how people really do the dating apps not there's anything wrong with dating apps or finding someone online i'm just saying the volume in which they date to me would drive me fucking crazy like how many times are you going to go out a week and tell the same story or the same person because you do do for the most part have to usually start

at the beginning with basics when you're getting to know someone. Of course people have different personalities, different humor, whatever, but that to me is exhausting. Now, go straight to the trauma. Let's have that conversation. Yeah, but then they get a toothbrush week one. Yeah, that's okay. But let's go straight to the trauma. Fuck all the he-hies

and the ha-haz. Who touched you? Yeah. Some packet. Yeah. I want to know. And essentially, can it be me next? I'm saying, gotcha. Okay. Yeah. That's a good way to get in there.

Yeah, we put all of these, you know, fake bound, like walls and we shouldn't say that or we shouldn't ask. Why? No, I hear you, but some people are not ready to have those conversations the way that we probably are because we have the innate ability that we talk every day for a living. So opening up is a little easier for us because we do it to a bunch of strangers every fucking day. Yeah.

So, you know, not everyone. Get a load of this guy right here. What are you doing, please? He has innate ability to fix the camera. You have the innate ability to see when things are out of focus. But everyone at their job is not typically pouring their souls out on a microphone. So they're a little bit more closed off. Yeah.

But with all that. This is therapy. For sure. This can be therapy. This can be therapeutic. Right, baby D? It can. This has helped you through some things.

It can also lead you to therapy too. Yeah. I don't know about that. This podcast hasn't helped you with some things? Love wise, mentally. therapy-wise? I'm not saying love-wise. Mentally, emotionally,

no, y'all kind of like, you know, kick my back in and make my life harder. Financially, it's been great. No, we kick your back in so that... We just kind of meant to die. Yeah, we kick your back in what the world is going to kick you harder, though, baby.

We're preparing. The world going to kick you harder than I ever will, baby, Dee. That's true. I'm just preparing you for what's out there. That's all. How was your weekend, Mom? My weekend?

My weekend? My weekend was cool. No plans. You didn't do anything? I went to this. I went to this park by my crib rode the bikes, did like six miles. Okay. You did an e-bike or you did an actual bike? It was an actual bike.

Oh, okay. Yeah, it rolled six miles on the water. Yeah, it was cool. This was like the first weekend where it was like some sun out and not raining. And I don't know how long. This has been the rainiest New York summer. For sure. Probably that I've ever witnessed.

It's rained almost every day. Like this weekend was the first weekend where we had back-to-back, sunny, not to be. too humid. That's why I know you live far. Because we got killed yesterday. We got killed by rain yesterday. I'm talking about Friday and Saturday.

Okay. Friday and Saturday was nice. Friday and Saturday was nice. That's the first time we had two back-to-back nice days. The days before that last week was terrible. Yeah. July was good. August wasn't the best,

but July weather was great. July weather was not great. Been a lot. We just got to August. But it's been like Florida type rain where it'll like rain for two hours like a monsoon. And it'd be done. Yeah. This ain't Florida.

No, I know. I could accept that in Florida. They caught me on Sunday. I was at the playground with Amara, and the app said nothing in the morning, so I didn't even check. I started to look up. I was like, that looks like a squall.

Yeah. Got right in the fucking car. Sky opened up. Yeah. So, yeah, that's what I did this week. And I went out on Disney, some stuff in nature. Were you socially lazy? You did it by yourself, or was it?

No, I was other people out there. Gotcha. It was other people out there in the park. It's like, I think it was like a bike community. Like, you know, when you try to, like, give the head now, like, you want to be down what the fucking? Waving at each other. You, yeah, yeah, yeah. Understand it.

You, y'all be out here, like, every week. Same time next week, you start, like, yeah, right, no. You thought about joining a run club, ma'all? Run club, nah. I ain't running. I'm going to join a rug club. Yeah? I got to start thinking what, like, my mid-30s to 40s, like, I give up hobbies going to be.

Like, people join. Golf, you already golf? Yeah, I guess that's true. I'm starting with that. But yeah, a lot of people I know are in their half marathon phase. That's when you know people are. And I think it's good. But when people are starting to give up on, on like new things.

Yeah. It's like I'm just going to, this is me now. Yeah, man. It's like run clubs now. Really? Run clubs is the biggest dating pool. I had no idea. Yeah?

No, we're running, baby, Dee. That fast. I'm with you. You thought I was just running just for the fuck of it? I know. You're running towards love. You got to run to that. motherfucker.

Now I can't wait for Nick Lachey to do a reality show of just a filthy run club everybody fucking each other. Yeah, hell yeah. The run club is where it's that? Baddy's run club? Yeah, oh man.

I don't know how much running ain't going to do. They're going to be fighting before he started. Imagine run a half marathon than having a fight. Nah, nobody can't. Yeah, nah. That's out of here. But did you see the Ray J. Ollano Brown undercard to the Clarissa Shields fight?

No. You watch it? I saw clips. How was it? I understand why gun violence is as high as it is in our culture. Niggas can't fight. Oh. Like when I say can't fight, like, I'm talking I literally do not know how to like throw their hands.

Well, I mean, to be fair, Ray J and Orlando Brown grew up in Hollywood. I don't care where they grew up at. But there was no opportunity for them to learn how to fight. Ray J is a lot from Carson, California. Oh, please. about. But they never, where would they have been fighting at? As a grown man, you should know how to at least throw your hand. Yeah, but you need practice and where would they have gotten that practice? You don't slapbox with your, with your homies?

Not when your face is very important because you're on TV. That don't mean nothing. This man nigs on TV that can fight. Who you know on TV that can fight? That grew up on TV? Grew up on TV. You can fight. But like we're child stars at seven, 10 years old. I just think if you, I just think if you, I just think if you do the drugs that Orlando Brown has done, I think you should know how to fight. You had to fight out of some crack houses. Like you had to fight. You had to fight.

Like you had to throw hands before. Like, no, that's my rock, nigga. You had to throw hands with somebody. Like, you know what I mean? Ray J. grew up in California. He should know how to fight a little better than that. I was expecting Ray J.

To go out there and really like. Well, he's also, he's almost dying. Remember? He said he was going to be dead six months ago. Mm-hmm. He was bleeding from his eyes. Yeah. Yeah.

So we give grace there. He's also old. It was less about Ray J. Same age. I thought Orlando Brown was going to have like crackhead strength. I thought he was going to come out swinging. He got a big to be. I don't think he can't crack no more because he kind of hefty.

I want to know how much money I got paid for this. Because, Maul, we have to revisit our topic of us getting in the ring for a bag. If we just have to pay fucking pity pat like that for an M, let's do it. let's put on some 12 ounce gloves and just do this to each other well y'all got to represent our family is better than that yo I'm sure they made a good amount of money here oh no they definitely got a bag for that

I doubt they each got an M but I'm just saying if this is all you got to do yeah but this was this was bad like I think we have to have more respect for Jake Paul now after seeing this fight like people need to have more a much more respect for Jake Paul after seeing Yeah, but after seeing this, it's like, oh, yeah, like, this is, this, this was bad.

But I mean, it's entertainment purposes, you know, it's to laugh, it's to have a good time. But I was expecting Ray J. to be able to throw his hands a little better than that, though. Well, he was already, who did he fight last time where he snitched on the fight and said it was fixed? It didn't go the way it was supposed to be fixed. Super hot fire. Yeah. And he put a knot on Ray J ahead.

We'll also give credit to Reg back-to-back fights, man. We rarely see that with fighters that back-to-back. That shit was like two years of between me. That was like almost a year ago, wasn't it? No, I was a couple of, that was like last month. No, wasn't. That was my... Bro, that shit was this summer, for sure.

Oh, wow. May 23rd. May 23rd. Oh, that was in May? Oh, yeah, nah. Respect to Ray J. Yeah, man. Turning over two fights.

At the caliber of these fights, yeah, that's tough to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got respect, Ray. Yeah, Ray, you get respect for that. Yeah, I thought that was, I thought that was almost a year ago. Yeah, nah, super high fire. Yeah, he, he knocked Ray out. Yeah, yeah. Now, we got to respect Ray J for that,

getting right back in the rain. And that was a UFC fight. True. That wasn't with boxing. That was, yeah, like, he'd have been on the UFC ring. Kick blocking, be next. I ain't a lot. He put Ray J.

Out. Yo, he put Ray down. I'm not getting in, I don't want to fight anybody with legs, man. You imagine, like, starting shit with somebody in a bar, and the first thing they do is kick you in the shin? Every day, your whole body goes,

nothing after that. Every light. What are you doing with that? on your dashboard turned on it. Somebody kick you on your shin. Every light turns on after that. If your first initial thought is that you have a powerful kick enough

to do that in a bar fight, I don't want to fight you. Yeah, now, you know something else. You know something else. I'm cool. Yeah, you know more than I know. I don't want to fight you. Catching a flying knee while you're trying

to pay your tab. I'm totally cool. The fight, uh, Tiseki and Big Lex, the baddies, they had a fight as well in the undercard. You were a vested. Yeah, or not. Those are my girls. I thought Tiseki was going,

going there and really beat the shit out of Lex. It was totally wrong. Lex went in there, handled herself really well, threw her hands better than Ray and Orlando Brown. Both of them in this fight could be Ray and. Yeah. She's eating some of those punches, though. Tisecchi, it was her, it was what she was wearing.

Like, she had the top, like, she was more concerned about her boobs falling out. She had to keep her Justin. It was... Well, isn't that part of it? the allure of baddies? Like at some point a shirt is coming. That's why they always have the baddies of security t-shirt. Yeah, but you see how big legs had on, how she

had on like the sports bra? Yeah, like she was there to fight. Right. That's what Tesecu's who was going. Like, I get it. You know, the uniform was supposed to look like lingerie and be sexy a little bit. I get that, but you got to have support for your breasts. Like, and then a lot of the time she was trying to adjust her top.

Yeah. I mean, it would have been funny if by round two, she did put on that big baddy security t-shirt like they always have a zeus one yeah it was a zeus one yeah if she had a zeus t-shirt on in round two yeah it'd be a different fight yeah it's better than orlando on them fight this was wait you see how they throwing their hands i know you don't watch baddies some of them can like really really no these these are these are the two best fighters on baddies without a doubt like they throw combos different angles like they know what they're doing like taseki has literally she has knocked like veneers out of girl's mouse before

Bitches veneers be loose, though. Sometimes they just talking and won't pop out. And sometimes you punch hard. Oof. So it's that part of it. I really thought Tiseki was going to go on there and really, like, you know, put legs down.

But Big Lex did. She won. She won the fight. And Chris-Shan was watching the fight live and she was screaming. She needed that phase. She wanted to fight Big Lex now. I mean, I think we're going to definitely line that up.

After her performance in the parking lot over the weekend, I don't know if Chrison is to play with. she's ready she's in shape no bichan is yeah but yeah so they're definitely gonna fight big lex I think she offered to fight Chrishan obviously they'll get a bag for that I mean I don't know man

they carved me out a nice little you know little lane for the baddies to get in the ring and really they're fighting every week on on the show so you know if they could get a bag to actually get in a boxing ring I look at the technique here she's staying centered has her balance the footwork No Kashan is an athlete though like she's a

she's an athlete like she ran track I think this is a good outlet for people. Well, can they always say if you have children who are angry, put them in some type of, like, fight. And it's a good outlet for all of that anger from all of that trauma. Yeah. And if you could get a bag and- get a bag for it.

Why not? And if you're able to let it out in a ring, you're less likely to let it out on random fucking people or. Not a great example with Chrison because she's in the ring a lot. She still don't give a fuck? I mean, she's gotten better. She did that outside of a baby shower on Saturday. Yeah.

Chrison don't give a fuck. She'll fight anywhere. Just because you put her in the ring on me, she's only going to fight in the ring. Yeah. Shapes don't mean anything to her. That's just she's fighting anywhere. Shout out to Clarissa Shield. She won her fight as well.

Yeah. They stopped the fight. They threw in the towel. I think it's safe to say Clarissa Shell is the greatest female boxer of all time at this point. I was seeing people complain that she has no real competition. How do we fix that? She has no real competition. I mean, if you're that good.

I mean, I have an idea, but you're not going to like it. But shut up, Rory. No, I think they're saying. I think they're saying that her competition is. Let them in. Let's go. Oh, shit. Go ahead, baby.

I'm sorry. Yeah, like they were making jokes. Like, who are these lunch ladies that she's fighting? What I'm saying is, are there really well-trained women that are, like, fighting her? Okay. Absolutely. I'm asking because I don't keep up with the sport like that, so I would like to know.

Yeah, I don't follow women's boxing that closely, but she's not like fighting amateurs out of her class. They're professional boxes. She's just a better fighter than all of them. That's just how it happens. You know what I mean? Like, she's a lot better. She's stronger. So, yeah, she's making light of the competition.

That doesn't mean that there isn't any competition. It's just that when they stand in front of her, she makes it look that way. But if they were to get in the ring with other fighters, you would be like, oh, she can fight. Like, you know what I mean? So it's just, you know, it's that part of it. I don't know what weight classes she's in,

but I do want to see her in Alicia Baumgartner fight. I think that's the fight that everybody wants to see. She's middleweight? I think Alicia's, she's not middleweight. She's a featherweight, yeah. Super feather wave. Yeah. But she's, she's, now, Lisa, she can fight.

Like, she's, she can fight. She can get in there and throw hands. 130 pounds is like, tiny. Yeah. She in there swinging, though. I mean, you say that, but even like, what was, what was Pachy Allen-Mayweather at their heaviest? Buck 45.

47, yeah, 45, I think someone. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And they're not even the, the lightest, um, weight class. that's little. Yeah. Hunter is,

$130, $1.40, $1.40. Yeah. This era of boxing, or at least the era that, Tamara's you and I kind of grew up with was, we didn't live in the heavyweight shit the way Moll's era did. Like, it's all light fighters.

And I think that's why I don't like boxing the way that I did when I was like a kid kid, when I was like watching like with my dad or when he would like play replays of old fights and shit. Like I like seeing big people fight, you know, twigs. I mean, there's, I mean, yeah, because they have the more haymaker type style. But if you love boxing, this was a great era because, like, nobody's more technical than

whether, like, it's, there are great fights if you're into boxing. But I hear, yeah, sometimes you want to see two, you know, buck, $1. Buck, $1.00. Women? Oh, men. I don't want to see that, man. Yeah, like, my era, we had, like, fucking James Tony is our heavy way. No disrespect to James Tony.

It was just like. James Tony was knocking shit out. He definitely was. Lights out Tony? He was knocking shit out. I miss James Tony. You miss him? Yeah, he'd smoke a cigar walking into the ring.

Did he? I don't remember James Tony doing that. He was nuts. They need to get him as like one of the announcers. I feel like he would make shit interesting and say the wrong thing at all times. There you go, yeah. You're right. He did have a cigar.

That was his thing. Lights out Tony. Three division works in. Yeah, he was putting shit to sleep. What? It was a quick run, but it was a run. Yeah. You're going to remember his name.

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And listen now. Switching over to music, did you guys see Pitchfork, Gabe Tigers, what is it? Starface? Stargays. Stargays. Starface. Yeah. What's the name of Elon's Wi-Fi? That should have been the name of shit. Stargays, what it should have been called. Gave his album is 0.0. And while I feel like Pitchfork kind of got away from their credibility of an actual music outlet where we needed it the most and just does a lot of shit for headlines, like, say Ice Spice's album is better than Elmatic and like all this other weird shit. But I'm kind of with him on the 0.0. Of course, it's a lot of. little click baity and headliny, but

if your entire album is AI, sorry, 0.0. We're here to judge music. That's not music, so I can't judge it. I respect pitchfork for that. I respect them for that. Essentially, that's pitchfork letting it be known. Like, we're not with that AI shit.

Like, not for a full project. Like, if you have a song, you know, maybe, cool, full album, full AI project, we don't support that. That's what this 0.0 is saying. So did we ever confirm what part of the album was AI?

Was the lyrics written by somebody else? Was the AI the sound? The whole album is AI. Okay, but you can say the whole album is AI, but AI what? Were the lyrics? Was it the lyrics? Is it the performance? He said, I used AI-assisted things in production.

All the vocals are me. I wrote all the songs. When it comes to 80 cents and guitar souls, yes, I used AI for that, but I didn't make a full AI. album. I was in the studio for three months working on this. I mean, I think it depends if you're taking his word for it. I didn't listen to the album, but I just don't think Pitchfork believes him. I think Pitchfork is doing that also for clickbait. They just happen to be on the right side. I agree. That's what I was saying. It's still clickbait. You don't get me wrong.

And I also believe, Tiger. All the vocals are me. I wrote all the songs when it comes to the 80s sense in the guitar solos, I used AI for that. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Once you say, once you say I used AI assisted things in the production. That's what he's talking about, the sense in the guitar solos.

Yeah, writing is production too, though. For sure. But he said I wrote all the songs. I don't, I, like, you can think that he's lying, but I don't think you have to rewrite his words. I think he's lying. Okay. I think he's lying.

I'm not going to say he didn't lay some vocals, but when you listen to those songs like because why would you if you're using if you're using AI assistance in the production why would you then sit there and try to write all of the songs? Because I'm sure because he can write

and he can record vocals he can't produce. So the parts of the album that he didn't work on were the things that he can't do himself. All right. Taga we've no can write M.A. Kitt records without AI so I'll start by giving them the benefit out there. But kind of to Moll's point, if I'm having, if I am in Los Angeles

as the artist that TIGA is with the resources he has, 80 cents are not like the most difficult thing. They're iconic, but they're very simple. 80 cents. You have all the resources for someone to come in there and you're doing that with AI. You don't know. I'm going to assume you're probably doing everything with AI at that point if you're the fucking synth is AI. Like. Yeah. And if you already tapping into that, it's like you do you think it's like integrity? he would say, oh, nah, like, yeah, I use it on the production, but yo, the vocals is me. And at that point, it's like, who cares at that point? My thing is AI probably spit out a bunch of songs and he probably used parts and then

redid parts with his vocals. Like, I think AI spit out full records for him and then he pieced them together. This is where the problem is going to come in at, though. Because as an artist, if you say, nah, those vocals is me. Niggas going to look at you funny. Like, I don't know, fam. I mean, well, that can be proven, though. Can it?

That's what Stems exist for. He can, that can be proven. Yeah, who's my, my guy with the fake song in the summer? I like the AI song. Phoenix. Yeah. Yeah, something. He snitched on himself so badly when he posted the ProTool session of that song

where there was no vocal stem on it. Like, you proved it was AI. Yeah. All right. So, Tiger, show us the stems then. Maybe. I think that's fair. You take it back.

When you used to have one, the sweater, nigs, like, yo, that coogey ain't real. You check your collar. You're checking your collar. Let us see the stems. I mean, but also I don't like, I just don't really care that much about Tiger's Scarface Miami album. Like that's like the least of my worries of A.

I don't care that much. Now, I want to, okay, so here's my thing, right? I want to know what they would have rated it. Actually, I don't give a fuck what pitchfork would have rated it. I'm going to go listen to myself and see if I like it, if I like the album. Like, if I'm pretending this is an AI, if I would like the album. Here's my thing, though.

Again, I think it's clickbait. And not to say that pitchfork cares about journalistic integrity anymore, but they are now putting themselves in a very, very weird position. Can you look up what pitchfork give a bully? Oh, yeah. Because now you're putting yourself in a situation that if you're drawing the line of AI shit,

let's go through a lot of artists we love that are using AI. They better get a 0.0. 3.4 out of 10. All right, you gave. So, all right, it can't be above 5 then if it's AI. Hmm. I mean, I know Kanye swapped out the new version of bully with his real vocals or whatever, but the first version of that album was an AI album.

Like, yeah. Well, that's why they gave it a 3.4. But I'm saying if you draw the line of 0.0, I think they're going to put themselves in a weird position when we start finding out some of our favorites are using AI, but because they haven't before, we just give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm with pitchfork on this. I'm sorry.

if you're an artist and you're using AI and I had a platform to rate your album zero 0.0. Like somebody got to keep the integrity in the music. Somebody got to keep the integrity in the art form. Like I get it. The AI shit is here to help and do those stuff. I'm not cool. But when it comes to making music and creating an album, like you can't put out an album with

all this AI shit on it and think that nigga is supposed to really like attach like some emotion to what they're hearing and experiencing. And like, it's not real. So, okay. So let me ask you this question. What is the difference between, what is the difference, the creative difference and how much creativity it takes to do something between AI using old 80 cents coming up with their version of it or you using a sample?

Because a sample, you didn't do anything either. That's not true. That's not true. A sample, you still got to find it. You got to chop it the correct way. Like, it's still mad shit as an artist that I have to do with the sample or a producer that I have to do with the sample. Like, there's mad shit I got to do. AI is taking shit that already existing is already made and just pulling from that and kind of like saying, okay, here, you can do it like this.

Like, nah, as a producer, I got to find that, that break in a song where it's like, oh, that's fire. And I got to loop that the correct way. And I got to. It's still some type of real connection from the. artist to the music. With AI, it's a machine that's just kind of like pulling from things that are out there and saying, here. Like there's no real, you know what I'm saying?

There's just no real energy and, you know, passion connected to that for me. Like, and I, you can start to hear it and feel it in the music. Do we feel that way about autotune? Again, Autotune is a little different because while I may be off-key, like because I'm not a great vocalist here's a machine that will kind of like take my vocals and kind of level them and get them more on pitch

than I am like naturally but at least it's still some I'm still the one that's in the booth I'm still putting really motion behind the words and so you do you think that Tyga did that with his vocals or you think that his vocals again I'm on the side of once you once you jump into that AI pool

like you can't tell me you went to the strip club I'm like but I ain't look though nigga you look you look at some ass you smack some ass in there we ain't don't do that once you say you're in that lane like I'm jumping I'm using this

don't tell me yo but I ain't use it here and there don't tell me you stole some shit from the bank but I ain't take the checks though like I left the checks that was deposited I just took cash but there are some people who just use I understand what's just saying There are some people that in all avenues, though, not just talking about music, who use AI as a helpful tool, but it's not their entire creative process.

Almost every creative I know uses AI in some fashion now. We use AI for this podcast. Look, a girl was showing me something, right? She was trying to work on some type of presentation or something. And I'm reading it. And I got no more than three lines in. I was like, is this you or is this chat GBT? And she was like, no, it's chat GBT.

It's very easy to tell. That's how I feel about listening to music. I feel the same way when I listen to music. It's almost like I don't know what it is. You can just feel it like, yo, this doesn't feel like an artist really took their time and really like lived with these words and these these melodies and these things like that. It doesn't, you can just feel it. Yeah. So again, I understand if some people are into it, cool, be into it.

Like if it sounds good. And I didn't listen to this type of album. If it sounds good, it sounds good. But I'm also sure that I'm going to be like, but I'll never go and listen to that shit and really connect any type of real emotion to what I'm listening to because I know it's not, it's AI. It's like, no, I can't. I just can't really connect to that shit. Okay. It's like super fast food.

Might be good. The nuggets might be good. I ain't going to be there like every night. Like, you know what I'm saying? We ain't going to do that more than once, probably every two. weeks or something like that. So it's like that for me. It's just super fast food, man.

I just really can't get into that. Like, I felt the passion on Rack City. I know he meant that shit. Yeah, I know he was really talking about a specific dancer. Like, that inspired those words. Like, I guarantee you you can hear the difference between deuses and whatever is on Starface. Different sounds, but yeah, I get you.

I knew that Phoenix song. That's what they, Phoenix? I knew that was A.A. the moment I heard it. Yeah. I knew that was AI. I'm like, bro, you're not... I assumed everyone did.

And I'm not even trying to be like a snobbering. I just assumed everyone was like, oh, this is just a fun AI song. I just thought an AI song went viral. The first time I heard it in the, like I was hearing it in clubs. And I thought like a old song

like was now viral again because of TikTok. I had no idea that was a new song. What's funny is what really popped that song off, at least in my algorithms was like, that old crypt dancing to it in L.A. Like that made that show. Super viral. And then he did on the radar, but I was like, oh, they just have a face for the AI.

I just assumed everyone knew it was AI. As soon as I heard it, I knew that was AI, though. I mean, there was also that TikTok video that, like, really ruined it, even after he had posted the ProTool session. Like, the guy typed in with Eminem as the reference. Just certain keywords, hey, I want this, and it spit out the exact same lyrics. Every reference. Huh? Like, that guy did that.

no one else to do that. No, Rubbers is a cool, no, it's a cool record, and if it plays outside, I don't care. Like, it's a fun song, but I don't judge it in a musical realm. I judge it as more entertainment. No, which is fine. That's fine. I just don't think it should be judged

along with music, because, I mean, to DeMaris's point, I think there's a drastic difference between sample chopping and creating music that way than it is to type something into a computer and spit something out. I just it just isn't it's entertainment to me at that point it's not music which I mean whatever he shouldn't be up for like Grammys and things like that no yeah or really taking serious outside of just like a funny thing to listen to when you're outside like but see the wild part about this is that Phoenix kid could get a super bag just traveling the country performing that record

he don't give a fuck about getting nominated for a Grammy about that he gonna run up a super bag. Fuck it. I'm doing four shows this week. I'm doing five next week. I'm going to London next month. I'm going to Amsterdam after that.

Just to perform this one song. And they give them a bag to just perform this record that's an AI record. So, you know, I get it. I understand that it's a new lane and that, you know, somebody is trying to capitalize and run a bag up.

Go get your bag. I just, me personally, I can't really attach any type a real thought or emotion to any of this AI music. And, I mean, I think AI could eventually get to that level. But now I don't think it's in a space where this could be, have much longevity. Because it can only have so much creativity. Like, how many more songs like this is he going to make that are going to work?

Yeah. Like, there's, P. just played AI songs about our podcast off mic that I think are fucking hilarious, but it's just entertainment and fun for like this. Yeah, something to laugh at that. This isn't like sustainable. It's like a mean. Like what share memes We'll laugh

We'll keep talking about Oh, this is hilarious It's a TikTok sound Yeah It's like, yeah It's like, you know I get it But it's

You know, for me Somebody that just Loves and appreciates The art On the different level I just really can't Tap in with this Yeah

That's fair Yeah, I just really I can't get with this shit I can't get jiggy with this shit I cannot And honestly I don't even think it's for me None of these artists Are making any of this type of music

with a consumer like me and my. Of course not. I'm like a snob. Like I'm, you know what I'm saying? They don't want the snobs. They just want kids that are just going out to the club, you know,

making TikTok videos and going to festivals, getting drunk, getting high and just want to just, you know, make content and have fun. Like that's their audience. They don't even have a consumer in mind. They have an algorithm in mind.

Right. Like, right. That's really it. Yeah. Like, I mean, in 20 years,

I highly, out they're going to be crying at his concerts the way they did to love yours in Cleveland. Like there's a difference between that and like, he's not going to solve the Barclays with that record. No. People are going to be crying. Yeah. There won't be a stadium full of people that are like, I know the exact day Jay Cole dropped this and like attach it to their lives.

Like it'll be like, oh yeah. I remember that. Cole, Cole is good, man. See, don't be a hypocrite because you said Cole, all I want to see you do is do love yours and all that shit, stay in that lane. He's in that lane. He's crying. Everyone's crying.

I cried. We all cried. We cry together. That's why I said he's good. He's good. This shit he's doing this crying shit. This is great. You don't think he, you are so fucking ridiculous.

This is great. This is how you pull up the heartstrings right here. This is how you win the people back. You become so relatable. Cole is always, that's been his thing forever. It's him being related. That's why I said. You go all the way.

To the point that people have criticized, like, all right, you're too relatable to college students. I shoot people, so I can't relate. Like, yeah, he has a specific core that he's relatable to. And you don't think with the lyrics of that song that he wrote without AI, penned himself felt every word that he was writing, he wouldn't cry when performing that? I just, can I? Oh, my God.

You're posing a question. Can I answer you? Oh, my God. Can I answer you? Of course. I just feel like a lot of this shit is, and it's, and it should be. But I feel like a lot of this is performing it. But he is performing.

He's at a show. He's on stage. So it should be performative. It's nothing wrong with it. I think as Cole fans, y'all just get too, like, whenever somebody has something to say about Cole, y'all get too, like, your panties and a bunchers. Just listen to what I'm saying.

This motherfucker. It's supposed to be performative. It's supposed to be performative. He's at a show. Now, if he was doing this shit on fucking, on Bowery crying, just walking down the block while somebody's playing Love Yours, I'd be like, all right, we might need to check on Cole. He might be going through something.

But on stage, doing the record crying, that's put, it's called performance. It's a performative thing. You're acting like he's one of those people that films themselves crying in their bathroom to no, no, no, that would be, that would be crazy. I'm just saying this. The lyrics to love yours are tear jerking. He lived those. You don't know what is going on in his life at the time, too.

They could trigger that backstage with his kids, his wife. Yeah, you could get on stage, see that and start crying when you perform those lyrics that you mean so much. He didn't cry. He didn't cry at Dreamfest. That's funny. You said that you said that he looked like. he was about to cry? I think we had that our camera.

When he was apologizing, when he was apologizing. Yeah. Not when he was doing love yours. When he was apologized, he looked like he was about to cry. When he did love yours, he wasn't crying. I'm almost positive. This isn't the first time that he's cried doing love yours.

He's cried almost every night. That's, are you understand? He's not cried almost every night. The reason why this is that headlight. You can go back to when he did the shows here. He was teary out doing this record. I know, but this was, Cleveland was the one that he Yeah, it's a terrible.

city. You ever been to Cleveland? I would cry too if I had to I've been to Cleveland and it's a lovely city, especially in the fall. Eve even tweeted that it was one of the best crowds, one of the best shows. There may have been a different type of atmosphere. He said that every night. They haven't said that. They haven't said that at Barclays. He didn't say that at Barclays movies there. He didn't say, yo, I ain't going to lie. This is the

most lit night. No other show is fucking with this. He said that verbated. Listen to what I said. I said, Eve went out. I have not seen Eve tweet at all on this tour. at all that Barclays was the best. Madison Square Garden was the best. Toronto was the best. He said, Cleveland may have been the best cold show I've seen.

So there may have been something different. I've been to concerts where the crowd is just different and it makes the show. I saw the Yeezas tour in the Garden and at the Prudential Center. It was a different energy in each of those buildings. Yeah, it can change and that could get emotional. All right.

Me personally, that's just your, I'm respect. Why you can't respect my, my, I'm respected. If I didn't respect that, I wouldn't be having to be. I respect what you just said. No, I love yours. Respect mine. I love yours.

I love yours. Love minds is all I'm asking for. Why none of y'all niggins are you love mine? How come none of y'all love mine? Y'all don't love mine. There's a pause somewhere. I love yours. Love minds.

That's all I'm saying. I feel like it's performative. Even at the same time, it should be performative because it's a performance. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong. Why do you feel like it's performive? Where would be the need for the performance to come from? What is the, what does he have to gain from the performance?

Because. Because these are the things that go viral. These are the things when people are performing. Cole was crying at his show. He did love yours and was crying. That's what, as an artist, as a performer, you're cognizant of these things. What does he have to gain from that? You gain the hearts of the people back because you know he sees the things online that a lot of his own fans were saying.

Like they kind of was all from what he did during that battle. They were. A lot of his hardcore fans was like, yo, I ain't like that, bro. like that was whack. You shouldn't have backed out like that. You were emcee, staying on your pen. And you think that that he lost the hearts of his hardcore fans because of that? Some of them, yeah, absolutely. That's not even the conversation we need to be having. You're telling me that Jay Cole feels so desperate after this sold-out tour already that he needed to learn how to teach himself how to cry in the corner when he's performing. Like he's like, yo, I'll go viral.

Let me teach myself how to cry. Yes, artists do that, Roh. God. Yes. You think Jay Cole taught him, Yo, love yours in Cleveland. He's been teared. I'm like, teach myself how to cry. He's been teary out every night when he's performing that record. Okay. It's a very emotional record. I understand.

I'm not saying it's not an emotional record. I understand that. I'm saying it feels performative, but that's fine because he's on stage. It should be part of the show. Why not? I'm not mad at it. I'm just saying he's good. That's good.

To do that on cue when the record starts and perform. That's good. I'm not saying like, I think you think I'm saying in a negative. I'm not saying anything wrong. You're saying it's, when you're saying performing, you mean it's not genuine.

And to me, I'd find that as a negative. He's performing. It's supposed to be, what are y'all missing what I'm saying? No. He's performing. You doing a Rory thing where you being shady but you're not standing on your shade.

Stand on your shade. How I catch a straight? I'm on your side this time. Because how am I being shady? I'm saying, I said I started the conversation with this is good. I'm going to, I'm going to explain to you how you're being shady. Every single time we have mentioned, or you have mentioned, the Cole tour since it has started, every compliment that you give it comes with a little bit of underhanded. You know, now I see it now.

Cole fans, ah, they type of niggies that apologize after they stay pussy. Or, ah, he's good. This is performative. I don't know. It's never just a- I was at the show. A girl barked on me and said, what are you doing here? And then came back an hour later and apologized to me.

I can only speak from my B-O-B. Hold on the way. if I was at any other show, any other rapper, I might have got popped on for being there. Like, I'm saying, I understand the fan base now. It's like, okay, everybody here cool, nobody has problematic. Nobody here one of no issues. I get it.

I understand. There's nothing negative about that. I'm not being shady when I say that. When I say I feel like this is performative, I also said, but it's fine. It's okay because he is performing. There's nothing wrong with being performative on stage. Okay, but I just don't want.

Y'all just sitting this thing like, nah, like, yo, he really, yo, he really emotional, like about that record. Yeah. That's what you're, how are y'all saying? Like, how you know that? We're saying we could clearly see how an artist who wrote that song would get emotional at a show performing it. I can see that too.

So we're, I guess what I'm saying, it's okay to be performative at a performance. So you're making it seem like, nah, yo, he got to cry because them lyrics right there. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. The underneath of what you're saying as far as him being performative is that he needs to be disingenuine to win back the hearts of the. people when he never really lost the hearts of his people. That's what I'm asking.

You think it's genuine that he's tearing up while performance? You think it's genuine or not? Do I think he planned in his set list in his own notes that I'm going to cry during Love Yours? Or do you think it came from a genuine place because this song makes him tear up? I mean, that's what I'm asking. Then we'll have a clear argument at that point because that's what I need to know. Do you think this is from a disingenuine place that is an act?

He does not feel those emotions. He's making himself cry for the show. I think these AI tears. It's an emotional record, but I think that he definitely like, yo, but if I cry right here, that makes the performance more like... So he only does it once in Cleveland? I think you lost some of your hearing since you had a stroke. He literally has been teary-eyed every show during Love Yours. Oh, the only time, he wasn't crying at the show we went to, and everything I saw online, the headlines were cold cry.

I have not seen any headlines of cold cries that love yours, except for this Cleveland show. He literally was teary-eyed when we were at the Barclay on his record. which again I'm not mad at y'all making it seem like I'm saying something no it's perform you you should do that that's performing that makes the performance a little more like okay damn that really like those lyrics really hit cold like damn you know he cried any other performative rappers you could think of performative rappers I could I saw Jay perform the 444 set a couple times actually I saw the festivals and I saw in barclays two nights 444 you could hear the difference in his voice. Now, someone could say that's performative, but I really think it's tough for Jay-Z to perform those lyrics in front of people, and his voice genuinely just changed because it's a very emotional song. I'm not saying he's bawling crying. You can hear his voice, though. It's a little different than performing where I'm from. Like, he gets a little bit more emotional on it because it's tough for him

to perform, which he's admitted. Is that performative, or does he really feel that way? And that's why the performance is so good, because it's coming from a, genuine place. I just said it's AI. Okay. It's nothing wrong with it. It's performative at a show. That's what you should

be performative at. Is that a show? Right or wrong? I agree. That's all I'm saying. P. said, let's go to commercial. Let's go to commercial break. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsors. Tiger, Starfish, available now.

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You okay? Please. Moving on. You've got mail. Hey, y'all. I just watched the obsession episode. I just had some comments to let y'all think about. So anytime that the entity,

Nikki, self-harmed herself, it was really the real Nikki coming through and trying to kill herself. Because, you know, there's lapses where real Nikki would come through, like when she left the not-me-no,

or, you know, when entity Nikki was sleep and real Nikki told Bear to kill her and he didn't. So hurting herself was when she came through and she just wanted to kill herself. Also,

Bear is a sick man as well because when he went to Ian to, you know, make a wish. He told Ian to wish that Bear never made his wish. He wanted Ian to cancel his wish so he could wish again for what I assume for Nicky to like him in just a more acceptable way. He probably would have put like guideline details. You know what I'm saying? So Bear is a sick fuck. He's a pussy. And since I'm here, I'm going to ask a question.

Do y'all think it's possible to love someone or give someone the same love twice, meaning say you in a person, you know, you're together, so in love. whatever and y'all separate whatever reason doesn't really matter now y'all get back together do you think that they have that you could have that same love that you had the first go-round like for me every time i've double-backed on someone i realize like oh like i probably won't marry this person it's no way like this happened this i've we left for these reasons i can't give them that same full love i had the first time that same pure love maybe if i like did them wrong i might you know try harder but then it's them on the other hand like something happened and they're They can't give me the first love that I liked from them in the beginning.

I was talking to this by my friends. So let me know what you think. Well, good point on Nikki trying to kill herself. That, yeah, that was definitely what the case was there. Embarrassed piece of shit. But, I mean, I leave the floor to miss Spend the Block. I believe in Double Jeopardy. But, I mean, I think this would be a...

You missed to Spend the Block. See, I don't like that rhetoric that you be pushing on this motherfucking podcast because me and you be doing donuts and it's doing donuts together. I literally said at the beginning of this episode, I'm not, what's the cool phrase? You're socially lazy. No. Oh, inaneability?

Yeah, I don't have the innate ability to cut people off. No, I'm here. I'm, yeah. Yeah. We hear. But you speak about it more on this podcast. I keep it to myself and appear not to be that person. It's time for you to open up.

Your name's in the title. Well, I'm not that performative like Jay Cole. Like, I, you know, I can't do that. Do you think it's possible to them? It's an open-ended question because I think it's case-by-case basis, where sometimes too much stuff has happened in the first go-round that it makes the second go-round a little bit more difficult because there's certain things people can't get past.

And that's when you play yourself, like, you do realize if you try this again, it doesn't erase the shit that each person did to each other. But if there's like forgivable stuff in there and everyone just handled things incorrectly and you realize that, there's a space for that. But that's such an open-ended question. I feel like it depends on,

what happened in that first go-round and also what happened in between. What happened in between is always so interesting, right? Yeah. Which also makes things sometimes difficult for people that do want to spend the block. It's like, well, I can't, like,

can't spend the block now. That's what you was doing when you was single? Well, we were on a break. That's what you was doing? I don't have anything to do with this shit. I'm answering this young ladies. No, I'm saying hypothetical. Ooh, guilt. I said hypothetically like, damn, that's what you was like, you thinking like damn, that's what you was doing? I can't fuck with you.

I think when you take breaks with people that you think you're going to be back with, yes, what you do in between those times is more important than people give it credit to. I think how you move in those situations, even though no matter what, you know, we're not together. And I get that and you should respect that. And nobody's held to a standard when you're not with somebody. I'm as illogical and immature as I am, I do understand that part. But at the same time, do with that information that you will. I'm not saying you can't go out and do whatever you want because you can.

We're not together. But don't act like that won't affect if you try to come spin the block. That's why you never spend the block. Oh, ma. You also full of shit too. Because you don't spun a block or two. For some pussy, yeah. Not for love.

Pussy, I'll spend this. I'll spin the fuck out this block. I'll spend this will of fortune. But that's why I wasn't mad when you said socially lazy and just keep certain people around. Once you know what type of time it is with them and it can just be casual, you don't take shit personal. Like, that's not wrong with that.

Yeah, the spending the block is not love. Yeah, we're just having a good time with somebody that you know. They're just having fun, but it ain't like no real love shit. But that becomes a gray area too. Because some people show you exactly who they are and you should just play it as you know this person and where this is going. And you think they're going to change.

Like, no, just be here versus some pussy. Yeah. This shit ain't going to get better. This is who she is. Same love. This is a good time. This is obsession. Yeah.

This is obsession. It's not love. It's infatuation. I don't even know if it be that. Let's me have infatuated with somebody. Nobody don't infatuate no more. I'll be in infatuation. You'd be in denial.

You're going to be in infatuation. Yes. You ain't ever, somebody, you ain't ever be like, oh, I'm infatuated. Fatuated? That shit went out with the barbers and the, their names went out,

barbers and all of them? That's when infatuation left. That went away the year bleak put the song out. Yeah, yeah. That might have been the last time, niggas. Nobody was infatuated after that. Yeah, infatuation?

You're infatuated. Yeah. See, that we fucking Are we not? But that's not What that means That's where the world is now Infatuation

Don't live here no more No, love don't live here Infatuation is gone I've been infatuation I think I don't know Maybe it's different Because I'm a woman Life is best

Like when we're infatuated With somebody When we have like a major crush That's what makes life worth living Once you get into the depths Of the relationship And you Because I always say

A crush is just a lack of information So once we get into the depths of the relationship and I like know you know you and I can't unknow you and I can't unknow these things about you that's it's not fun then. That's when it's like serious business. But like when it's just a crush, like I'm just like, oh my God, I'm so obsessed.

That makes life worth living. That was going to be my question. Because of how quickly we have access to communicate with somebody all day, does infatuation go away quicker? Because I feel like a lot of infatuation you had before was to your point, kind of like lack of information

You're not talking that person all the time. You're learning new things when you guys meet up. Like you're not texting all day. You lose infatuation when you fucking talk to the person all goddamn day and know everything within two days. Sometimes. Unless that person gets better as time goes on. No, I think that can lead to love. I'm not saying that just turns into not liking the person.

But infatuation, there's either two roads you can go. You just don't like them anymore or it leads to a serious relationship. You can lose infatuation quick. and sometimes get into a serious relationship. I think Instagram has a lot to do with that too. Because I think infatuation has a lot to do with looks. Infatuation usually has a lot to do with looks. And I feel like when you can see someone all the time,

whenever you want, it's a little bit different than like waiting for the next time you're going to see their face. Between FaceTime, Instagram, I think it's a little bit different. Okay. But I hear that. But to the Instagram point, like infatuation in its core is based off more shallow stuff. like looks for sure, but when you can literally just scroll through your phone all day and see beautiful women, I think infatuation does have a little bit more to do with liking that person on top of

finding them attractive. Like, you could just find any bad bitch to look at. But yeah, I think it leads more to liking that person in infatuation in these days. Back in the day, you get a bad chick to even talk to you and go on a second date than you're starting to have infatuation. Now you can see, just scroll all day and find that. You ever heard of the 300 rule? Great war.

What's that? Don't you have sex with a person more to 300 times? It's like impossible to really like them. More than three. How many times? 300. 300 times. I was in a relationship for four years,

and I don't think we made it to 300 times. You was in a relationship with somebody for four years and y'all didn't have sex 300 times? I see why I didn't work. 300 is a lot. 300 is a lot. Over four years, it's not. Not at all.

Really? I could get 300 in one year. You could get 300 with one person in one year? Yes. Okay, so 300 times, not 300 days. So we count in multiple rounds. Well, I've never heard this theory. So Ma would have to answer that, but having sex 300 times.

Easy, bro. You know what? We probably did hit 300 times. That just sounds like a really high number. what? Oh, yeah. Well, then, yeah, we probably did. We definitely hit 300.

But I don't know. It just, it seems like a high number. It sounds very high. To think that you had sex with one person 300 times is insane. In that first year of loving someone. Four years? Damn near living with them. Like, you have sex three times on a Sunday.

Like, yeah, you're right. You're right. Damn. That's not that hard to get to. Yeah. You guys are 100% right. So that's where I disagree with it. No, I don't think there's a three.

rule at all. It's not. I just made that up. Oh, okay. Yo, that is. Oh, I just realized that. You said you start this course? All right.

No tag. So AI doesn't know about it. There's no recognized rule. Okay. Well, let's let's, let's, that's more rule. It's my rule. Small rule.

Can't have sex with somebody more than 150 times without getting tired of them. Who me? Nah, I can. Way more than 10. That is crazy. Yeah. 150?

Yeah. I can definitely have sex with a woman one or 150 times and still like her. That's not a lot. 150 times is not a lot. Like when one person, that's not a lot of sex. I agree. Especially if you're with, that's who you're a girl.

Like, we're humping. We're in here doing the do. So was there a thousand people? Now, I don't know if I've ever done that. A thousand and one person is insane. I mean, in relationships that I've had, it wasn't a... It was never a lack of us wanting to

fuck each other. There was always other things that were there. So yeah, I don't know if like, I'm sure people, I've never been the person that's been, you know, married for 10 years or whatever. Like, I'm, I'm sure that does exist as it's. Yeah, but that's a lot. But I haven't experienced in a relationship where it was like, oh, we don't, we don't like doing that with each other. It's always something else that that's involved in what's not working. Because what's the number one reason for divorce? It's finances and then Finances.

Lack of intimacy, right? Yeah. Yeah, so, I mean, a lot of married couples probably never had sex a thousand times. That's crazy. That's a lot of sex. A thousand is a lot. How many years have you been married? If you're married for 10 years, how have you not had sex a thousand times?

Oh, yeah. Have you married 10 years? I don't even know how to say. How many kids you got? You should have definitely had sex a thousand times. How many kids you got? Do you both work? Kids definitely.

I'm saying, but before, all right, yeah. If you go with life. the Catholic way of like meeting someone, dating for a year, engaged, married, you have a kid, your wedding night, okay, yeah, those numbers are probably lower. But if in this era, if you dating for a few years, then live together, then get married, wait a year for a kid, you're in the thousands. Yeah. And if you're not, I don't think sex is the most important thing, but physical intimacy is very important for a long-lasting relationship. Like, there's probably a problem in your relationship. Do you still communicate with the person you had the most sex with? Yes. Me?

Every day. I'm not even asking you. No, I don't. I'm being 100% I don't. We don't speak anymore. So only ex I don't speak to. I'm dead ass. Only ex I don't speak to. What about you? We'll be back after word from these sponsors. I'm, no, I'm being one hundred serious with you. My longest relationship, we don't speak. Okay. So. Me? Yes. They say yes. Still putting up numbers? No. Okay. But we still communicate. Yeah, we're not putting up numbers, but we speak. I love that for you. I think that it is possible.

We live the old days. You talk about the old days? No, we talk about the highlights. How's your mom? Game six. My mom asked about you. Who's picking up Amara? You talk about game four?

I still talk about game four. You know, I still watch, like, I still watch the fight. If I have, like, some time and I don't want to get into the, let me focus on watching a new show or new movie. I'm putting on game four and five. Why would you? You like anxiety. Like, it gives me anxiety and I know who wins.

Like, no, it's just so good to see that happen. Like, it's the opposite of anxiety. Like, I feel whole. I feel at peace. It's good to know. What was the last conversation you had with Miss 1000? We didn't have sex with thousands of times. But I don't know.

It was maybe something, a movie or something, talking about some movie I mean this is a little TMI who I don't know if the listeners want to do you think you've had sex with somebody a thousand times No Okay definitely not I disagree absolutely not

A thousand times fuck no It's crazy Absolutely you guys thought 300 was crazy Till we broke it down of how easy you could hit 300 I didn't think 300 was crazy That's yeah no The Maris thought 300 was crazy Yeah I thought 300 was crazy

And we've definitely probably hit Probably hit 300 but I can't imagine going any higher than that that's insane but like you got married that person what do you think you have had more than last year more sex or more podcast episodes podcast episodes

for sure and it's not even remote it's not even close you've put out more episodes and you've had sex what four times a week nigga yeah you out of your mind every week without skipping a week yeah

yeah I don't get no bitches facts Don't. No, we don't. Yeah. Yeah. Now, in the beginning of this, this podcast, no. But now, oh my God, it's not even fucking.

We was, boy. Well, especially we only do two episodes a week. Nah, ain't nothing. Tid knows. Now? I remember when the listeners. I see he has an answer. That's just what.

I remember when the listeners, when I first got on a podcast, the listeners was like, yeah. And I was in a relationship. like, yeah, that shit ain't gonna last long. I got so mad. I was so angry. Like, fuck you guys, my relationship's gonna last forever. And them niggas was right.

What? They was right. Well, don't give them, like, Nostradamus credit. Like, there's a very high chance every relationship ends more than it succeeds. Ryan, just open your food, bro. Like a fucking cat burger. Just open the fucking food.

Ryan over there is mad crunching. Just open his food. Just open your food. It's like the third time the bell is right. You just keep getting orders or some shit. No, the other time it was fed at the birth of zone. That's funny. That shit was irritating the fuck out of mom.

Yeah, like trying to open that marble cake with the plastic lid. Just open it. Oh, like, you think trying to be quiet for what? Just open that shit, man. Oh, my God. Well, no. I think it's odd that you haven't answered yet because we do put out four episodes a week. And there's only seven days in a week.

So my bad, bro, I ain't know you guys. I ain't know what I was getting pussy like that. Hey, somebody asked him what he did this week and he said, he ain't do shit. So I don't know. He's a weak that guy. I didn't say I was getting pussy like that. Well, you didn't answer the question that you asked us. AI.

It's a performance. I used it for the production. But the lyrics is me. Like, I wrote all. Yo, I feel like that's the new, like, you catch some, like, somebody catch you cheating. Like, I'm not a cheater, but hypothetically, I'm saying that shit is AI for show. That's AI. You're going to believe that?

You can believe that? I'm a public figure, bro. He took my image and used my likeness. And you won't believe that shit? Hey, Shaggy got it off. Called me banging on the bathroom. It wasn't me. I'm looking at you.

That was crazy. That was just kind of gas. The biggest gas, the greatest gas life record of all the whole time. Just say it wasn't you. All right. Can't say that to the wrong nigga, though. And you slapped the shit out of him like, it wasn't me. Yeah, I definitely do not condone any physical violence.

But I do live in the real world. And yes, there's certain men. If you catch a girl. If you catch a girl. It wasn't me too. Yeah. If you catch your girl having sex with some. and she's like, yo, it wasn't me?

Come on, fan. How he's supposed to respond? Like an upstanding gentleman? Yeah, you're right. It wasn't you. No, he's about to get violent and physical. But also, how was Shaggy and who was an old boy that was singing?

He never gets enough credit because he made both those records what they were. I forgot his name. That and Angel, like, I love Shaggy, but that guy's singing was. That's Prince Nassim, wasn't it? Rick Rock. Rick Rock. Rick Rock. we need to wow was he not on more hooks like we need to get the rick rock story of what like what happened

with him a rick rock like where where did he go i want to know what happened to him i want to know what happened to kwan like the first rapper singer there's that's what i want to see you're not even come on you just you just learned about the culture it's mad niggas named kwan in the hood like who's kwan you don't remember just a moment with naz and kwan he was singing the hook and he was rapping, he signed in Nas. He was dope. But not important. How could you respect that girl

after she caught you in person fucking on the counter, fucking in the bathroom? Like at this one, I think she's the problem. Am I the drama? Why you keep walking to my house when I'm fucking somebody? And not going to leave. Why you keep trying to catch me when you're not going to leave?

Your time is terrible. You have the worst time and ever. Like, you keep coming through here. Well, to answer a shorty question, I do think, since we got on a crazy-ass tangent, I do think that it is possible. What was that question?

More or less, is there too much baggage on the second go-round of spinning the block for a relationship? Not to, like, fuck each other again or whatever, but like, hey, let's get this another go. It depends on why y'all separated, why y'all took a break, why y'all, you know. It depends. If it's cheating, somebody cheated, it's never going to be the same.

If somebody cheat on you, if you can fool yourself or, you you want the relationship, the dynamic, the chemistry, it's never the same. Never. I don't care how much you love somebody. If y'all break up because somebody cheated, one of y'all cheated and y'all try to spend the block, it's not going to work. It's just not.

And I think that's okay. But people got to accept that. Like, you don't look at this person the same one more. If you spend the block and you want a relationship, you have to know exactly, you have to really love exactly who that person is because the fun that comes. when, like we said, when you first get to know each other, like all the butterflies and all of that shit, that usually is gone. So you have to actually, you don't have the representative anymore. You don't get to experience the representative.

You now know the real person. You have to be ready to go back and willingly love and accept that person. And I just hope they got better. Like, can I accept this person, the person that I knew just in a new scenario? If not, then it's not going to work out. I think that it's possible. But I think it's, if I had to throw a number out, 90% chance that it's going to fail. But.

Yeah. Yeah, spinning the block is just because you don't want to catch a new body. You're scared to try something new. Yeah, you don't want to catch a new body. And don't be like me. Catching the new body, just catch the new body. Catching the new body is, I promise you, it's just so much less stressed than to go back to the old and try to revive it. Catch the new body.

Yeah, but if the new body ain't a good body, though. Well, you have to build chemistry with most people you have sex with. Sometimes it's immediate. Volume game. It is. That's my way on the volume. Statistically. That's why we're on the volume?

Yeah, it's what we're going to play the volume game. I feel like at this point, though, most people know how to have sex. Like, we're in our 30s. Well, we are. You're in your 40s. I feel like in your 30s, most people know how to have sex. How you still don't know how to fuck at 30 something, 35, 36 years old? No.

That's crazy, Ma. It is. I agree with you. But no, no, they do not. Just because you're 30 don't mean you know how to have sex. That's crazy. I don't know what else to tell you. Like the average, like the average person got 10 years in the game.

You've been fucking for 10 years? Ten. At 30? Some people are in long-term relationships and they know how to fuck the person they were dating. Yeah. Like in a relationship. Because like the way you and your ex has sex might have been great.

Yeah. But I don't like that. What ain't that just means that you're not the person for me? Okay. Now we're starting somewhere. We're not compatible. Mm-hmm. The chemistry sexually may not be there.

I don't like your pheromones. You don't like my pheromones. What I mean, but I feel like that happens early in the- You don't like pheromach. I do. Like. yeah Simon says

yeah you know what I'm saying Rubbing on your titty You're not rubbing on your titty You ain't got titties Like Okay Rubbing shoulder blades Hold on

We're quoting a Fairamong song Again you guys don't know Kwan Or the guy that's sung in Shaggy This is real hip hop shit over here We talk Don't shoot at a little titty girls I like little titty's

Nothing wrong with little titties Hell yeah that's my shit Little Titties Hell yeah We wear the same shirt the fuck you laugh at you're 23 you don't get no pussy yeah I'm bugging out my bad you know exactly how that shirt is gonna lay

oh man yeah he can win all my teeth go ahead it's all good do we have another voicemail yeah we do oh my back what's going on y'all is Taylor so I share it with you guys

what's going on y'all is Taylor we know I can tell out the gate I shared with you guys my messy run-ins relationships and yada, yada, y'all. Your advice essentially was like, all right, cool out, like maybe just chill. So I've been chilling. I've been chilling for the last, like, a couple years now. And it's been amazing. I'm so at peace.

No anxiety on my stress. Taylor, I saw you like two months ago. No one piss me off every other day. My feelings are getting hurt because I'm quote-unquote sensitive for sharing my feelings, whatever the case is. I'm doing the things. I feel great. But what y'all didn't tell me was like, how now I'm not going to want to deal with shit.

Now I'm not interested. Like, no, I don't want to talk every day. I got to listen to, I got to listen to your feelings. I have to navigate through like your shit too. I don't, now it's hard for me to get back there. I was obsessed and I'm obsessed with my peace. So what advice do you have now? How am I supposed to readjust to being a good partner again or a good person to date?

because I just be wanting to be to myself and kick up on my couch and kick it with my cat and watch TV, like my actual cat, like my own cat. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. I'm not being fresh. Food change. But, like, what, hello? What am I supposed to do now?

Thank you. Taylor's so toxic. No. She's so toxic that she knows how to hide it really well by making sense. I don't think she toxic. I feel her. I feel her.

Basically, she was saying, yo, It's tired of hearing these bitches tell me about their feelings. No, that's real, though. When you've been single for a while, that's very real. That's a real thing. I am not judging Taylor. At this point in my life, yes, it's a safe space, and I want somebody, whether it just be friends and then have to be romantic.

I want everyone to be able to say their feelings, but I got my own shit going on. I can't. It does get exhausting when somebody wants to literally dump their pause, their day on you every day. Like, it starts to get annoying when you have a lot of shit going on. And then it's worse when you're in this field of, I guess, entertainment of podcasting when you're actually talking. Oh, God.

People assume that you want to keep talking like after you're off camera of Mike, which, you know, that's part of being in a relationship. You come home. How was your day? You unpack, trauma dump maybe, whatever. But after a while, that can become a little overbearing and, you know, kind of put a strain on the relationship. Because some days you don't want to hear anything.

You don't, you just want peace and quiet. we can be in the same room just don't speak to me you know that that's the best person really like you're gonna be both in this living room watching TV you know on your phone I'm watching the game

still in the same space still you know cuddled up laying on the couch with each other but like shut up just shut up don't ask me anything people don't understand that about us like when like when I'll say like I'm exhausted and they'll be like you don't have a real job they don't think this is a real job

I'm like I go and talk for hours we talk each other for hours. This is not a job, though. I don't look at this as a job. Yeah, I know. We've disagreed with you on that. But you literally just said that talking, especially when you talk for a living, it's draining.

Sometimes you don't want to go home. It's draining, but I don't look at this as like a job, though. It's draining for sure. Like, because I don't, you know, talking. Sometimes you just talked out. Like, I just don't feel like talking right now. Even if I wasn't podcast on a past day so I didn't feel like talking. I feel like talking.

I feel everything that you guys are saying and completely agree. But I do feel blessed that. the result of this job or this activity that pays is just that sometimes I want to be quiet. Because, I mean, there's guys in mind shafts for two weeks and come on and beat their wife. And it's just because they've been inhaling dust for two weeks. And then she had the nerve to ask, how was your day? Right. Right.

I just shook hands with the devil down there. I had lunch with eating a week. Also, people can have diamond. and shit. And gold. Again, no excuse, but I do understand sometimes the root of problems. And I wouldn't think it's crazy

that there's probably a higher rate of domestic violence within Mindshap jobs. I just, where us, it's just, we get quiet when we get home. Yeah. And then when we start thinking it's because we're cheating, it's somebody else has his attention. He's thinking about another woman.

No, I'm just thinking about this clip that's going viral for the wrong things. It's horrible shit going out of my mitches. I got all the wrong shit going on. You know what I'm saying? Complex is post an article about me. I got a lot going. Niggas is retweeting my shit.

Like, you know, it's just, you know, I got beefing for niggas. I don't even know. Oh, shit. It's a lot going on. Oh, shit. Don't let your partner, the person you talk to whatever, have a friend that's tapped into our world.

Oh, God. Then you'd be at her career of a friend. Yeah, what's going on? like, yo, she's like, what is going on, Rory? Why didn't you tell me? Yeah. Bruh. That shit is. Or like, when niggas want to argue, I'd be like, I'm not going to hold, that's why I put that caption on my photo. I'm not going to hold you. I can't sit up here and scream at you. I just

screamed that more about J. Cole for an hour straight. I can't come home and scream with you too. Like, I can't do this. I'm tired. I'm tired of hearing men talk. Either way, love yours. Everyone's job has their own ups and downs. Yes. We are not complaining at all. It's not, not a breezy limit squeezy. But yeah, I mean, every, every job has. side effects and firsthand know what it's like to talk for six hours and then get home and be like, I have no interest in speaking to you. Nothing against you. It's like I ignored my mother's call. Like it's not personal. Just love yours. But to Taylor, I mean, I'm not really out there like

that. And of course, there's a lot of women or people these days that are so addicted to their phone that they find it odd when someone doesn't text them all day. But there are still people out there that don't view it that way. They'll talk to you when they're not as busy and don't think it's weird if you're quiet. Those people exist. You just got to find them. And as far as like your peace, because when I feel the same way you felt before my last relationship and now after it, I feel that way again when it's like when you've learned

how to be alone and you've been alone for so long and then you go and like to seriously date somebody, you have to adjust. And like when you're at home alone and your house just eating for yourself, you don't have any kids, no one lives with you. It's just you and that bitch by yourself. in silence, like to let that go to incorporate somebody into your life, you got to, they got to be worth it. You know what I'm saying? Like, they have to be worth it because they can come in and fuck up that inner peace that you have. And then you're an emotional turmoil or mentally like being

stretched because this is if you're right or this person wasn't ready for a relationship or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's just like, yo, I was chilling when I was by myself. So I know how you, how you feel about that and that fear of losing it peace is a very real thing. But I guess you just have to figure out if at this point, if at this point in your life is the potential of love, long lasting love, worth the risk. You have to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. And that's a personal thing. It might not be for you right now. It might be in a year or two. I'm not saying this about myself at all. I'll let the people say that. But Taylor's very charming and I'm sure she gets off a lot of entertaining conversations with women and then they think

it's weird when she shuts up. Because it's like, you was just so outgoing and hilarious. What's wrong? Two seconds. Like, and then this morning, you quiet. And it's like, what's wrong? There's spurts of that. Like, I'm not that all the time. That's depression. Depression comes in waves. Just not even that, but I'm, yeah, I'm sure, not even for like some manipulative way. I'm sure Taylor is maybe more charming from 5 to 9 p.m. Those hours? That's her window right there, yeah. And then maybe she wakes up in the morning and just

needs a reset and a quiet morning. Like it doesn't mean... I think everybody should shut the fuck up in the morning. Oh my, don't even get me started. I think everybody in the world needs to shut up before noon. Shut up. Half of y'all don't use mouthwash anyway. Shut up. No, I don't understand how people do that. And even if you're a morning person, this and that, and any successful relationship I've had, there is one common denominator. We're quiet in the morning.

Yeah. Same. You gotta be quiet in the morning. I just, I can't start my day with... I don't want to hit shut up. up. And I'm a morning person. Me and my exor morning people and he, we would text each other in the morning. We'd be laying in bed and we would text each other in the morning. Like, good morning. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Yeah, good morning. You want coffee? Good morning. It's crazy to text somebody. Good morning. You want coffee? Dead ass. But y'all text each other way. It's surprised at the other side of the house or whatever. Like, yeah, I'm making coffee. I don't talk. I don't talk. I don't know. But good morning is crazy. Good morning. Wait, wait, wait. In the same bed? Sometimes we would say good morning to each other. But if I was like, if I would like wake up he knows like when I wake up don't start talking to me to me.

No, but walk me through this. Y'all are texting each other while y'all in bed with each other? What are you in bed there? What are y'all texting each other? It would be something like, good morning, you want coffee or like what time you want to go to the gym, shit like that. And y'all are both in the bed, awake. King-sized bed. Y'all wants out of one another.

I don't talk in the morning. I don't want to talk in the morning. And I'm a morning person. I don't want to talk. No, no, no. No, I'm happy. No, I'm happy in the morning. I just don't want to hear anybody's voice.

I get that. But texting while you're laying in the same bed? Yeah. The first, I want to say the first 20 minutes I'm awake. The first 20, 30 minutes I'm awake, I just want to scroll through my phone. That's all I want to do. Oh, I hate girls that do that. I hate girls.

I do that. That's it. What? I don't trust no woman that does that. Does what? As soon as she wakes up, she's scrolling through a phone? Oh, yeah. I don't trust a woman.

Well, see, to me, because me as a person, that's usually the only time I scroll through my phone is in the the morning. the first when I first woke up that's when I get my scrolling. Any girl, any woman that grabs her phone as soon as she wakes up and stuff I've, I've woken up early in the morning

to women that were like up before me and they aren't on their phone like on Instagram and it's like 7.308 in the morning. That to me is a lot. I mean, I can see like having worked stuff or whatever. What are you doing?

But I just going right to the app in the morning that that's not a good Yeah, like that's not healthy. That can't be healthy. I don't have the numbers to say why. I can just safely assume that that's not healthy to consume all of that shit as soon as you wake up. Like there's no way that that's healthy.

That's something, you're going to see something that's going to alter your mood. Something is going to trigger you. And now I'm getting a brunt of that shit. And I just woke up. I couldn't imagine. I can't imagine something like on the internet like that affecting me. Like, no, I'm going TikTok, laugh a little bit, scroll to time. Usually scroll in the timeline on Twitter is when before I have to come to work, see what happened.

All right. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then that's it. I'm not a big scroller. Texting why you laying in the bed with somebody is crazy. Yeah, man. I can't, don't talk to me. That is the wildest shit I've ever heard.

Like, I'm right here. If a girl was to do that, first of all, I'm not answering the text. I would just roll over and look at you like, you're all right? Like, the fuck you're texting me for it. We're laying right here.

I think when I first did it, he did do that, but I just was, I don't talk to people in the morning. Because I know a lot of people don't like you. I just saw your butthole. That's fine. That's fine.

You're not talking to me, and I just saw you. your Starfish. What's Tiger's album? Starface? I just saw your Starface. Coffee tea or my medication first. Coffee tea or my medication. Once we do that, like I've been up for 30 minutes.

We could talk all day. But, you're texting me and we laying in the bed right here. It's crazy. Try it. I would never, I could never do that. Not without laughing. Like, I might send you, like, if we end up, not text you, I'll send you a meme if we land in the bed with each other.

Like, but texting? yo good morning because now you know my brain goes to it maybe this is trauma it's so good you send that to the wrong nigga oh my god

you text me good morning and we laying in the bed with each other who was that meant for you text the wrong you had there's nothing you can tell me that's gonna make me believe

that you did not just text the wrong person I was about to say yeah it started out as a mistake and now she just has to do everyone like see that's what I do yeah like because women to do that

they'll be like I always do that all the time. No, now you're doing it all the time. But yeah, when woman was to text me good morning and we laying right next to each other and I'm clearly awake, you know, who you meant to send that? That was not meant for me. You are, you, one thing about you, your bottom line is always

she cheating. That's your bottom line at all times. You're going to get. All right. To the men in the room, is that not a fair assumption? Yeah, for the first, yeah, that would definitely be like I think any healthy man will be like, what? Good morning to me? I'm right in. I'm probably weird. I don't know.

No. I'm okay with that. You're definitely weird. Like if you say you text somebody, there's no probability to it. You didn't tell you a cheater. He called you weird. Which means you actually did that. No, because Ma knows I'm not a cheater.

Of course. I mean, we all know. Women don't cheat. Y'all just. Black women. You know. What entanglement? The world is your oyster.

You just roam. You ran into other energy. Whatever verbage. It's not, it's not their fault. It's not their fault. Yeah. It's all good. Yeah, but yeah.

You know, interrupting your piece for somebody is different. But good luck to Taylor. I think right now if you feel that way, you should stay single so that you don't snap by women when you don't feel like being bothered. Just take your time. You get lonely enough again and then suddenly you'll want to hear about somebody these day. Yeah. I guess. I mean, maybe Taylor needs to give dudes a try.

Less emotional. Yeah. It's throwing it out there. I hate that rhetoric. What rhetoric? Men are less emotional. Yeah, on average. Men are not less emotional.

Men are less compassionate and less sympathetic. They are not less emotional. You don't know why anger is an emotion. And y'all feel that motherfucker all the time. You just sounded angry saying that. No, I wasn't angry. Just a passionate black girl. Are you compassionate towards our anger?

No. So who's more compassionate? No. No, y'all feel emotions all the time. Y'all are actually very moody people. But y'all know that because y'all are moody as fuck. Do we have another voice, no? I thought, no. But we can we can wrap it up with our condolences and our goodbyes.

Okay. That's a weird way to segue there, but the floor is yours, Senator. Stop, we're not laughing because this isn't funny. Yesterday we lost the beautiful, beautiful, wonderful sweet Hayden Panetteer, who was an actress, very well-known actress who got famous off being the cheerleader on heroes, She's very famous in a black community because of one of the Bring It On episodes, well, not episodes, but movies that came out after the original

Scream 4, scream sick, multiple things. Remember the Titans to pop it off? Yes, yes. But we lost her to what is looking like apparently some are reporting in overdose. We don't know because there's no information yet. But obviously she was very vocal about the things she was going through. That's why I think everyone immediately went to assume those things.

We don't really know what that is. But definitely condolences, she has a child as well. So definitely, definitely sad. But I'm not going to get into what we think happened with it. Because I just think the family should put that out when it's time. Yeah, whatever it is sad. Luke Jeremy said. She was 36 years old.

Yeah, way too, way too young. But yeah. Prays and condolences. One of our great whites. And prayers she has a daughter, correct? Prayers to her daughter. Definitely a tough time. It is official that she died from cardiac arrest from an apparent overdose.

Okay. That's official. Yes. Well, yeah, definitely. Rest in peace. Remember the Titans. She was a goat. She hung with Denzel, man.

Like she, when they were watching film, like she was, she was, as a child actor, hanging with one of the greatest actors of all time in a scene. Yeah. It's like not an easy thing to do where it's not like, hey, you're just a cute little kid. Like, no, she, her acting chops was hanging with Denzel at that time. Yeah. She was very talented. I've always loved Hayden.

Hayden was one of the first white women I ever had a crush on. One of the first women I ever had a crush on when she was younger. Mm-hmm. He's very beautiful, very talented. So this is a very sad loss. Extremely sad. Extremely sad. 36 is so young.

Yeah. So. Well, on that note, love yours. Take care of yourselves. Very true. We'll be back in a couple days to kick it to the people. But in the meantime, in between time, be safe. Be blessed.

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