New Rory & MAL - Episode 534 | Maliibu Miitch

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

Maliibu Miitch is in the studio today promoting her upcoming album ‘Sailor Goon’.  We chop it up about the messy side of the industry and the freedom of finally being independent.  They discuss the differences in living between NYC and Los Angeles and the wild house parties you may run into while living in LA.  For the first time Miitch opens up about the Cardi B beef from a few years ago.  Go check out her music video for Wifey now and be on the lookout for ‘Sailor Goon’. Behind The Bars is presented by Sprite. Check out the full Sprite Living Tracklist and break down the stories behind your favorite bars at livingtracklist.genius.com. This is the Sprite Living Tracklist. Obey Your Thirst. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Like y'all was like group chat? That's my best friend. But that's been my best friend for like 20 years. So we were literally slamming each other in the water. And it's like a blowup pool, like a little floaty, a big floaty. May I ask what y'all was wearing when y'all was for you? Vading suits. Yeah.

There is water mall, naturally. Vating suits and little shorts. Oh, yes. Yes. Let's get that video to number one on the countdown. Remember that at the countdown? I do more. I miss countouts.

I know. They need to bring back something. We need that. We need some video countdown, right? Yeah. Like something just, I don't even see videos no more like unless, you know, like if you listen to on iTunes, obviously they have the videos there, but somebody would have to say, yo, did you see the music video?

And I'm like, I didn't even know it was out. And then I go watch it. But before, you know, that's how you found music. That's how you found what was dope. And it's messed up because as an artist, I still don't look at music videos. So it's kind of crazy. But I want people to watch minds though. Right.

Yeah. It's messed up. As an artist, that's interesting as an artist who don't watch videos. Is that purposely or just? It's the videos and the music. I don't listen to a lot of new music because I don't kind of want it. Because it's trash. You can say it.

We got the dad of approved it doesn't listen to it. We got the dad of approved that music is struggling. Look, a little something, something, I hear it. Like, if it's a viral sound or something like that when I'm on Instagram. But I'm just speaking of like, I don't go and listen to other artists because I don't want my stuff to sound like them. Sometimes you could like being an artist, like, you know, you're just, you're just, you're, you're You'll hear something and be like, oh, I want to create something like that. Subconsciously, you're here.

Yeah, I don't want to do that. Like, you know, so, yeah. Have you ever felt like someone did that with your music? Yeah, I felt like that. Have you been vocal about it or? No, I don't care that much. I don't really care that much. Why?

To be vocal about it. Because I know, like, I know people do that. And I know a lot of people have writers and stuff like that too. So it's like they get added help from writers. So, of course, they're going to get help from, like, looking up other artists. Like, and listening to other artists. So it's kind of, you're kind of, to like, like when I was younger, I used to get mad at stuff like that.

But now I just don't really care anymore. Yeah, I don't know. I'm still kind of on the side of like that's not a form of flattering to me. No, definitely. I'm biting my shirt. Yeah. I mean, I get the term, of course, but nah. No, definitely.

But I feel like, because I think Rihanna has said it in like an interview or something. Like when somebody copies you, like, when you're a trend setter, you're supposed to set trends. So you can't be mad at people for like following your trend when you're like setting it, you know? and that's the whole point you want kind of people to want to be like you in some sort of way and stuff. So that's how I don't get too mad about it. But when I was younger, what? I probably would have, like, you know, like crashed out a few times on Instagram. But luckily, like, I didn't think what God.

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finally because we've been championing this young lady for years had the chance to hear her music early early on been a fan the first time I heard her still a fan today pre-COVID I've been in the studio pre-covid

this is this is pre-COVID pre-the-world changing today we are joined by the Bronx's very own Malibu Mitch is in the building I've got to put the big Bronx on that. Yeah, heavy on the big Bronx.

Big Bronx, man. So the album is wrapping up. Yes. Some tweaks handed. We're getting it mixed out right now. Yes. Listen, I've been waiting for this because I want, I need music. Listen, you from the Bronx, so I feel like I could judge you.

I feel like I could talk shit and it's all love, you know that. Exactly. But I am happy to hear a full body of work from yours though because I've heard obviously singles, songs, some songs you was working on, but to have now a full body. I'm happy to finally have it. No, thank you. Me too. Like, honestly, like, I want people to hear me already.

Like, you know, because, like, I've been dropping singles. Even when I was back in the contract, they were like, let me drop like one or two little joints. But it's still like I have been dying to just put out a body of work. So I could tour and stuff, of course. But so people could stop with the, oh, she's not consistent. And it hasn't been really much of that, you know? So, yeah, I'm excited. How much has the industry on the business side jaded you?

A lot of times And I just feel like Sometimes when you're focused on Like just being an artist Just putting out just I was a studio rap for a long time That I never really focused on the business And that part kind of like

Always had me messed up And then it was even people that I would have on my team They would be like You're too much in the business You need to just focus on the artistry I heard that too many times in my earlier career That sometimes it made me feel like all right, damn, like, let me just focus on this.

So for when I was younger, I did. But now after being locked in so many different contracts and stuff, I'm kind of like over and now I'm too much on my business. And being with Monarch, my new label, they're fine with that, you know? They're fine with me like learning and asking questions. I'm always asking a question, you know? So it's really, really cool. But yeah, it jaded me a lot.

Yeah. I think when you came on the show at the BET Awards, you were just getting out of a situation, I think, at that point. Yeah, it was like, I was at an inside. mine yet, but they were, it was already in talks and everything like that too. Okay. So what's the sense of freedom with that? Are you on your own timeline now?

Yes, yes. And it's good because, again, like I like to be involved. I like to be too involved. So it's good. I'm in my budget. I'm the one clearing stuff for my budget. So it's really, really good. I got to get a little better with budget management.

Oh, that's all women, though. Yes. That's like a life long journey for women. All right. Yes. Don't give yourself too much. Because I'd be like, I need this and I need this. Yeah, that's, you just a woman.

I need firecrackers shooting up to the sky. Right, right. Exactly. All of it. But yeah. But yeah, it's really, really good. I'm really, really happy around this time. What do you think the dumbest thing you spent?

Your recording budget on. Dumbest, dumbest, dumbest. Because I don't think firecrackers are dumb. I think that that helps with the experience. Let me see. Well, like with this, with this. Just in general, in general. Okay, this was not my fault, right?

But I didn't realize until after. Somebody paid someone 20 grand for a music video one time, and I thought that was ridiculous. I thought that was insane, like ridiculous. When I could have called like a homie that knew a homie to bring cars and other things. So like I like to be like some, I'll bring in a lot of stuff myself so I don't have to blow my. Yes, I use my own resources. Yes. But that time, I really wish if I would have known that because that was just like insane to me.

And it was like two music videos. It was like 20 grand and I thought that was insane. Yeah. I could see that. I could see you looking back and being like, especially once the video is done, like, I don't think that was worth it. Yeah, because nowadays, people are just walking around

with the camera filming the stuff and then boom, now they got millions of views on just a video that they just was walking around Times Square or something. So I just think that certain things is just kind of like ridiculous, you know? So yeah. I mean, I think the water fight will probably do more numbers than any of the cars. That video is so cheap. I know what a Lamborghini looks like.

I've never seen you wrestle your friend. So, I just feel like the views made. may go a little bit higher. Yeah. That video is so fun, so fun. So fun. Yes. What else did you want to get across in this album? Because you haven't really had the moment to put out what would be a full-fillion project.

What are you saying on this album? What is Malibu talking about? So I did a, it's a bunch of different vibes that I have on there. But I was venting on a couple. I got an intro and an outro that I was just kind of like venting about what happened. Because I've never really talked about me being locked in a contract. So a lot of people don't know that. Yeah.

So in the intro and outro, that's basically what. but like I talked about. Because I wanted people to know from Jump where you, the first song that you hear, which is the intro, it explains all of that. And then throughout the rest, I have some New York vibes on there.

And then I have some like little Rachelina songs that you could. Rachelina. Rachelina. Ratchelina songs that you could be outside with your home girls. I like Rachelina. Yes, it's kind of like classy but still Ratchelina. Yeah. Rachielinas.

Yes. I like the Rachianas. I love a Ratchelina. Sometimes I go back to Ford. I'm just looking for Ratchelina. Yes, you got to go get you a Rachilina. Yeah, I need a Ratchelina coming out to Coochoo, Frieco. What was your last Rachelina?

Oh, it's been a while. Such a liar. A Ratchelina? I've had a Ratchelina in a long time. I bet you have in a few. Just like, from now? No, I can't, not no more, Malibu. I can't do that no more.

Ten years ago, maybe. But now, no, I can't do the Ratchelina. It's like, I can hang out with the Ratchelina. But then you're going to look up and I'm not going to be there. I'm going to be home in the shower and bed. Yeah, I got to dip in and dip out. I can't do too much with the ratchelian. Ratchelie.

Yeah. I feel like you've had one post-COVID. Post-COVIDs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so not 10-year. Well, the Rackalinas during COVID. Those were the frontline workers. The front-line workers, they would not care to come off.

Yeah. They were not. They were first responders. I've seen the nurses without their scrubbed. Yes, absolutely. Putting your eye into your arm right now and you have no idea what her life about that you. You know, many girls wanted to do my brows during the COVID.

Oh, my God. They started doing brows. They started doing lashes. No, everybody, I have a few homegirls that started doing lashes. Yeah. Yeah, they were saying, like, yo, pull up, come to the crib. I'm like, to the crib. No, not to do my...

They're like you with a little thread thing? Yeah, no, not to the crib, though. We can wait until COVID is over, yeah. Oh, my God. In the intro, how personal are you really getting with the situation? You're actually calling out certain people in it? I don't say names and stuff like that. I just basically say how they have me messed up.

Yeah. Your energy is different. You think so? Yes. It's calmer. Yeah. Like, this ain't the Mitch. Like, this is a... I love it, though.

No, don't know. But I sense. the maturity. I sense the growth. I sense the calmness, peace with everything that happened and just ready to work, move forward, and receive everything that's coming to you. You know when you get older, you start realizing a lot. I feel like for a long time I was placing the blame on everybody else except for myself because if I went through being locked in a contract with Rough Riders, if I did that with so many other people, it's like, like even with the production company. Like, I should have.

to stop myself. I should have just known better. Like, you get what I'm saying? I should have never used a lawyer that they gave me. Diabolical when you think of stuff like that. But you didn't know. Yeah. Now if you did that, I'd look at you like, you're crazy, but you didn't know at the time. Yeah, but I could have like, when people were saying like ask questions and some people, I would get some people ask questions. Some people don't ask the questions, but like I should have been asking a lot of those questions. And I was putting a lot of the blame on everyone else. Yeah, yeah. You know, like that's real. That's that of myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think once I realized all of that, once I started even like because like I felt like around the time when I dropped like then out of New York

everybody came with the deep voices and everybody started like remixing Youngberg I swear like he was like probably like one of the best things that happened to my career because like he understood like the music aspect of me and what I wanted to like give off and what I wanted to sound like but at the same time it was around that time when he was like you know what all right I'm gonna give these vibes to everybody like you know so it kind of like I was not mad about it, but it kind of bothered me because, like, I had my sound going with our project that we never were able to release. And now everybody is remixing all these old songs. When nobody was even thinking about remixing, like, old songs, you know, because I was like,

what, eight, nine years ago, I was doing that, you know? So, like, I think once I started getting over all of that and just, like, seeing it all the time, I think I kind of, like, it put me at ease, I guess, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that did become. Berg's sound as a producer. Yeah, which is, of course, fire. Like, you know, like, I fuck with him OD. So it's like, I get- Are y'all in a good space today?

Yeah, we've always been in a good place. Me and him never, like, had no, you know? Like, I understood what it was. Like, even with the, just work, like, just the work. I can't say his work ethic is crazy and mine is too. And again, when you find somebody that genuinely, like, gets you, like, in the studio, like, it's, like, very hard to find that. And then we find somebody, it's like, you know, so I'm, I'm locked in with him for life.

Like, he gets it. That's dope. Yeah, sorry, is he have any hand in this project or? No, this is all me. Okay. Like, this whole project was just me. I just wanted to give people something that actually genuinely came from me, you know. But, like, on my album, because this is just like a project that's just giving out to people.

But on my, the actual album, yeah, I want to relive all the songs that we had did a couple of years ago. This is amazing, you know, so. What was someone of the producers you work with? On this one? Yeah. I worked with Rocco and Everby. They're out of Ukraine. So a lot of the stuff they produce, they're fire producers.

I like working with people that are not really known to everybody. Yeah. Especially if they're from another country because I've noticed that a lot of guys when I hear some of their music and I'm like, yo, who did this? And they'll name somebody that's from like overseas. It's interesting because their ear and their sound and the sounds that they use with hip hop is totally.

different. It is. It's different only because in the sense of like they like that are old school music. So like they are listening right now to like Wu-Tang and all of those type of vibes. And when they think of like music from America, they're looking at stuff like that. Like they're looking at R&B songs like Monica and like all of our like archaic artist. You got what I'm saying? So that's why I use them because they their range is like insane. But it's very old school. Yeah. You know like so. You find them on YouTube? They found me on Instagram.

Okay. Oh, that's dope. S.K. And, yeah, my boy S.K. So shout out to SK. And shout out to Wolf. And, yeah, I worked out a few people on this project. Are you doing any singing?

Thank you. Shout out to Q. Am I doing singing? Jalen, did I got a singing song on there? Singing-ish? I think. Little melodies here in there. A little something, something.

Yeah. Berg actually was the one that got me into doing all. of that. You should. Yeah, at first I was like, oh, no, me saying what? You're bugging. Yeah. You know, but.

But you'll be in the house singing. In the shower. You're going to say. In the shower only. Like, and nobody can hear me in the shower. It's just me. Yeah. It's the acoustic.

But you should do. You should play with some melodies, though. No, but I am. I am. I am. I'm getting into doing that. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, elevators. Actually, yeah. There's a song of my project that I did sing a little something, something. See, look. Yeah. I forgot all about it. Now that's the first song I'm going to play. Yes.

As soon as the album dropped, soon as the project dropped, that's the first song I'm going. Listen to the intro. Then go to elevators? I bet I got you. Intro. And I want your honest opinion. Dog me out. You know I'm going to be honest with you.

Be like, we waited for this shit. Like, please do all of that. We waited for this. We waited for this. We waited for this bullshit. Come on, Malibu. No, I really want people's honest opinion because I, like, did this myself. So if the next go around, I need help, I need everybody's honest opinion.

Yeah. No, I think, I love that. I almost got kicked out your studio for that the first time I think we made. By who? Not by me. No, no, no. You and Berg was cool. You and Berg wanted my opinion.

It was the people that around you didn't particularly like my opinion. Oh, wow. Also, this is, now this is a thing with Rory. Now, see, I'm glad he said that. None of those people are around, so you shouldn't have listens. Yeah, but no, fuck that. I'm glad he said that because I always get on here tell Rory whenever he go to somebody session, they ask for my opinion.

No, but you've done that when nobody's asked for your opinion. Oh, I agree. But I'm saying in this instance, Berg had called me. I think, what was the studio that Empire owned at the time? It was like in time square. Yeah, yeah, I forgot. Yeah, I forgot the name of it. Yeah, Berg asked me to come up to listen and stuff they was working on.

It won't have my opinion. Yeah. Okay, so that's different. But he's done that when nobody's ex was opinion. Oh, for sure. I mean, don't play your music around me and I can't say nothing about it. Because that if it's fire, you want me to be like, yo, that's fire. But you definitely can't do that because you are artists.

And you know, y'all are since so, you can't go to somebody session Malibu and they be rapping. And you'd be like, yo, I ain't going to lie, that shit is not there. No, but if they ask, I will be like, maybe you should. If they ask. Yeah, okay. That's always the key if they ask. Once they ask, it's open.

My thing is, if I was to blurt out, yo, that was hard. Like, you would jack that, right? But if I would be like, yo, that was trash, why are you not jacking that? Yeah. Like, you get what I'm saying? Yo, that was trash. No, but people are like, they're very biased. And what they want to hear.

Like, no. And in my studio sessions, I'm not inviting anyone there that I don't value their opinion, good or bad. And then if you invite. Rory or even you more, if you were right, you out to the studio, you know what it was when you signed up. Like, of course you're going to vocalize how y'all feel. So I feel like it's certain people that you know is going to be like... Yeah, but I've also been in sessions where I know, like, all right, let me not say nothing in here. That's crazy. Sure. You know what I mean? It's certain sessions. You're like, I'll text you. Like, I'm not going to say it in the end. I was

like, if they're not Jay-Z, please. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. No, I'm with that. Because I wish that people would be more open to to receiving constructive criticism. Oh, yes. about their art, but artists are sensitive about their creation and things like that. So I get that. But as an artist, you know that it's very sticky for you to be in somebody else's a session. Yeah. And be like,

next thing you know they're on Instagram, subbing you. It's all kinds of you that come out of that. But I don't even go to other people's session. Like, yeah. I don't even be going to other people's session. So probably like Rich because that's like my best friend. I'll be in his session. But he'd be like, yeah.

And I'd be like, yeah. But he never has anything that I would be like, that was trash. Right. Yeah. Yeah. He's really, really cool in the studio, like how he just goes in there and just freestyles everything. I wish I could do that. Yeah.

I cannot. So like some bullshit will come out. Now, the first time I heard you was at Jungle in a Berg session. And I remember hearing the song and I'm like, though, I thought, I know you get tired of the comparison, but I thought he was working on some new shit with Fox. And I'm listening to it and I'm like. So I'm looking around. I'm like, it's the tone feels like Foxy, but it don't sound like, four. Foxy. It's still a difference.

Yeah. And I didn't know you were in the room. You was behind the board, like, sitting down writing. And when the song went off, I was like, yo, who the fuck is that? And then you stood up and I see this little girl. I'm like, that's her. Like that's her. Like that voice is coming out of her?

And Barry was like, yo, I'm telling you. And from that day on, I was always paying attention. I'm like, I want to see what she does. Because it was just, first of all, you're from the Bronx. I'm rooting for anybody coming out of the hometown. But then it was like just a difference in your sound, your look, the things you were talking about. Like, it was very original to who you are. So I'm happy that now you're in a better place. Yes. You're not, you're jaded, but you've learned. Yes. Took accountability.

Yes. And now it's all about creating the next thing. No, exactly. No, I'm excited because again, being locked in a contract for eight years, it was like borderline like depressing, you know? I can imagine. And especially like figuring out. And I, you know, like, I'm not like how everybody went to like only fans and how everybody went to all these things selling all these things selling everybody like just selling things i didn't do nothing i just sat there and just waited like you know and that a lot of people don't understand how much that took not for me to just like get on instagram and crash out like you know like and then i had a valid reason to crash out you know but i just didn't so i'm happy like literally i didn't do that because it would have left first it would have left a sour

taste in everybody's mouth i feel like even if everybody started looking at you like yo i can't work with her she had crashed you out. Yeah, like, you know, so like, and I feel like that's what they were telling people behind the scenes. They were literally telling people like, oh, no, she does this and this and this. And it's like, you know, like, not to tune my horn, but I'd be chilling. Like, I'd be very chilly. Like, I don't do too much. Like, if you do something to me, all right, yeah, I'm going to do something. I'm going to do it to you. Like, you know, but like, I'm very chill, very chill. So, yeah, trying to just, like, chill and just not be able to release music was kind of like,

like, very, very difficult. But with this project, I'm so excited about it. Well, I'm happy you didn't crash out because, you know, as a Ratchelina, they don't understand it's two sides to that. They don't. Yeah, it could get a little crazy. Yeah, they don't. That's how I'd be telling people, like, is Malibu inside of me and then it's Mitch. Like, you know, Mitch is the South Bronx. Like, Malibu's the bubbly side.

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Now, you during, I think this was during COVID or right after COVID. A very interesting photo series of you, Summer Walker. It was a few other ladies. I think y'all was on a boat or something. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah, I could never forget about that. No, just unlocked something my brain.

It was a beautiful day. It seemed like y'all had a lot of fun. Is there any music with summer that you've ever worked on? We actually had worked. She had, her team had hit me up. This is when she dropped, I think her first album. I think it was the first album. I was supposed to be on the karma remix.

Okay. Yeah. So I went in there, Dita and Santoro, but then they had moved directions. I think after Drake jumped on that one song, they were like, Oh, things changed. Well, not even that things changed because he was already on it, but they kind of like, were like, you know what, this project should probably be, that only be the feature. Yeah.

From that. Yeah. But no, that was it. Like, I have like a lot of music with a lot of men actually, but that was Thruberg. Okay. So, yeah. Yeah, I have a lot of music. Like my song, I have two songs of Fab that I really want to be out.

So when the project, like, when my actual album drops, like, I would love for that to be one of this. The joint with Jeremiah was dope. Benjamin crew Yeah Yeah yeah yeah I have a few songs That Jeremiah actually Yeah that record was dope

Yeah shot that in the Bronx Right What was that? No we shot some of it in Harlem Okay And then we shot like The store scene That Alex and the Wayne

Let me use one of his stores In the dream more Okay So he like shut the whole store down For us to go over there That's big shit That's fly right That's super fly

And it's so funny I used to steal from H&M When H&M and Alex in the Wing had to collab I told him And he's got a diet He's like, man, look at this way. I love you. Yeah, I was stealing out of the H&M 1-2-5.

Yeah, he stole this shit. He got paid before I went to the rack. Didn't hurt him at all. Didn't hurt him at all. Didn't hurt him. I mean, who didn't steal from? Yeah. It was an easy store to steal from. But when they dropped that collab with Alexander Way, I was like, yo, I'm in there. Yeah, I'm in there and I'm not paying for nothing. A little five-fee discount, never hurt nobody.

Yeah, that's it. This is to the go. This is to go. It's my to-go order right. It's hilarious. Yeah, it's my turn. Do you think you'll ever cash in on your verse swap that Nikki owes you? Which I just made up. I know it's not your... That wasn't writing anything, but... I feel like the perfect song.

Yes, I would love to. Like, I would love to, like, tag team a song with her, like, like, Jaden Stiles. Okay. Yeah, that'd be... Bless you. But, yeah, I would love to do that. Is Nikki, give us your...

Like, when you first wanted to start writing raps and growing up in the Bronx, who was the emcee that first you looked at and was like, damn, I want to do that? Because we ask guys this all the time, but we've never had a chance to ask a female. It's funny because, like, it would probably be, like, between 50th and Jadacus. Not Jadax, 50s, not J-Z. It would probably be one of the, 50s, like, my favorite rapper of all the time, like, hands-down. And then J-Z is, like, my second favorite.

So probably just them because, like, they used to vent through their music. And I'm not, like, a chatty-pattery on Instagram or Twitter. So, like, the only way I feel like I do or will be able to get my point across is through my music. Okay. So, like, probably because everybody, everybody I tell this too, they'd be like, that was your favorite album from Jay-Z? My favorite album was King's Kingdom Come. Okay.

So, like, that album was just, like, him just, like, seeing some shit on there, you know? Even Beach Chair. Beach Chair is probably, like, one of my favorite songs of all time for me. Roy loves that record. I do. Yeah. I love you're being facetious. No, no, no.

We just talking about to be shit. No, like, too, like, I love that. I love that song down. Like, so like. Kingdom Come gets a bad rap. And I think it's probably because our age, we were a little bit younger when it came out. So I think the older heads around us were like, nah, we fuck with just reasonable doubt Jay Z. We don't like him pushing the sound.

Like Lost Ones is one of my favorite JZ songs ever. Literally. And show me what you got. That just Blaze Flip is incredible. Like Kingdom Come gets a terrible rap, I feel like. No, yeah. No bad. And I don't get it, but whatever that's like.

What the best JZ interviews, interviews, uh, intros ever? Literally. So, yeah, so that album probably made me wanna, like, when I went to go relive it, like, I was like, you know what, no, I want to be like, so when I dropped something, I wanted to be like this. Like, even what, like, sometimes I fight myself on making the little Ratchelina songs. I'd be fighting myself because I'd be like, when I go back to listen to, like, my iconic songs that made me feel like, when I get in my feelings, when I get happy, when I get sad about something, I go and put on a Jay-Z. I go and put on many men.

I go and put on, those are the albums that I listen to. You got what I'm saying. So I didn't want to put too much out of like the little Ratchelina songs that doesn't really resonate with me. But I know I got to make those because I know that's what people like want to hear. I don't want to get caught up on making stuff that people want to hear because I literally don't care what you guys want to hear. I want to put out what I want to put out.

Yeah. So like definitely. I fight myself on those songs all the time because I want to drop stuff like how like Jay Z's kingdom come. Like, you know? Yeah. I mean, of course the Ratchet songs are necessary and people do want to hear. hear that, but you're competing with a sea of other ratchet songs that are single chasing.

Yeah. I don't think it's the best way to build a fan base or returning customer. You're talking about shit people can relate to is what has them actually come back. And then I feel like the masses of people are a little slow these days, like the masses of people. So those are not the people that I want to be along in my fan base. I, you know, like, I want my fan base to be like working people. Like, you know, like not people that sit on the ads or not people that scroll on Instagram and be making fake pages, running them. mouth. I don't want. Oh, it's a lot of those.

Like, yeah, but I don't want that crowd. Yeah. Because then those are the crowds that they start bullying you as an artist and then they they were like, no, I don't want that. Like I want a legacy fan base. That's like Jay-Z. That's going to follow me forever. That I could have it forever. Grow with you. You know, yeah. Like, you know, so.

That was such a kind way. This generation is very slow. Thank you. Such a kind way to say, yo, these young kids are retarded. Yeah. No, yeah. The kids are on drugs. Yeah.

You know what it is? Like, I don't even want them. in my music. No, literally. And I'm scared to stay retarded because I don't know if we could say that. We're allowed to say that. People say we are allowed to say that again. Just plead the fifth if they try to cancel you.

It's okay. I don't want to be able. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, I said it already. Right. Yeah. We don't give a fuck.

It was AI. Exactly. It was AI. What are some of the things that you struggled with on a personal level, like, as far as making this album? Like, away from the studio. What was some of the things that you struggled with? Um, finances definitely.

Because it was like, I had to still show up and I still have to, I wasn't making money like that. So I was like tapping into savings and stuff like that. So it was like, it was very hard financially to still stay afloat, still look cute every day. And, you know, but again, luckily I have resources like Alex in the way to send me things. Yeah. And I'm aware and certain things and certain other brands that were like, you know, always just like sending me things. So it was like probably that, just like staying aflo. And then my nephews moved in with me too.

So I like bought a three bedroom and moved them in. So it was kind of hard like being there because it was like I was a low key like a parent. Yeah. So I would literally go to and I would wake them up for school, make them breakfast, send them out, be back home doing interviews. I would set up my interviews and my music stuff for studio sessions like in the morning or late at night when I know they're sleep. So it was like I would want to run back home to make sure I feed them before they go. well, they come back from school. And then before like 7 o'clock, I would set everything up later and stuff like that.

So I'll make them dinner and stuff like that. And they were older than I as to put this off in the, like, go to sleep and stuff like that. But it was just being there for that. Yeah, because that's what they wanted and that's what they expect it for me. And need it. Definitely. So, so yeah, so I always tried to give them that. But a lot of people don't know that I was like I was a full-time parent to my nephews for like three, almost four years.

It was like doing that as well. That's the life change. Yeah. It is. But I love them so much. And I'm in my little sister. Like, you know, I don't see myself having kids. So like, those are my kids.

Yeah. Yeah. What's the situation now? Are they still with you? No, I moved to L.A. I took a break because I'm like, I just signed the new deal. Yeah. I signed the new deal.

So, you know, I had to tell my little guys. I'm like, look, you're going to be with your mom for a little bit for the next year. And then I'm going to move them out. My goal is to move them out to L.A. with me. Nice. So by next year. And then my older sister, so my little sister is the one with the kids.

She has four of them. So, man, my oldest sister, we don't have kids. So my oldest sister is going to move to L.A. with me. So she'll help me out with them too. Do you prefer L.A. over New York? Now a little bit I do because I feel like I've done everything that I is to do in New York. So now I just wanted to be in like a different space, you know? Like, so yeah, I do prefer L.A. over New York.

L.A. is more. The energy is more laid back. Like, you know, as soon as you land in New York, you can feel the. Is that? And then it's just more like, like just waking up to palm trees and good weather every single day. Right. It's like, you know. It's a level of peace. Yeah, it is.

Like, it's just, everything's pretty out there. So it's like I like to see that, you know. But I do miss the New York energy. Like, sometimes I feel like I'm trying to lessen my accent a little bit because everybody starts laughing when I'm not told. I'll be trying to. Everybody laughs when I talk. I'd be talking with my hands. In L.A.

They don't want you to talk more like. They want to hear it more in New York. They want to hear it. And then they do, they do me this thing where they be like, she said terrah these first words and I just be like oh my God

and they don't do they can't roll their tongue so they be like la la la la whatever they la la it all is not even a roll

that's a whole different that's a whole different thing I don't even know what that is so a little bit I'll be pissed off and I'm like because if you're gonna mock me mock me right right

if you're gonna act like if you're happening to do it right exactly so yeah and then there's be like you're walking or like

you're talking so I hate hearing that water Like, I hate hearing that. Like, I hate hearing that. They love their head and say water for some reason. For whatever reason. It's strange this thing.

Yeah. But LA, I love LA. I just don't, as a New Yorker, I don't know if I could live full time in LA. Yeah. But waking up, like you said, the weather, you know, the landscape, the scenery, just the energy, the pace is a little slower. Yeah. New York is just like, and we don't know it. We don't realize it because we grew up in it.

Exactly. And we live here. But the energy is always, everybody is just. Exactly. And I didn't, so it's funny, right? I was, like, walking around, like, downtown, because I live downtown in LA. So I'm walking around or whatever.

And I got my ear pods in, but I'm speed walking. I'm booming. Oh, yeah, that's another thing. I'm booming. They were like, yo, why y'all walking so fast? Yeah. I'm booming. And I wonder why everybody's looking at me like, what the hell?

And then I realized, like, yo, bitch walks slow. It's fine. Like, nobody's like, you know? Like, somebody behind you, and then they, in New York, they come around and then they turn around and look at you, like, why you're walking slow? Like, why you walking so slow? Over there, I looked crazy for speedwalking. Yeah.

No, that's real. Yeah. It's so funny and somebody else say that because it's such a real thing. Yeah. Well, I mean, downtown LA, it's okay to walk. I was walking on sunset in West Hollywood, and my friend happened to be driving by him, and pulled over and was like, are you okay?

You look crazy. What are you, you're walking in? No, no, no. They don't understand the concept of walking in the way. Exactly. And I genuinely like to walk. Like, so even when I was living in New York or whatever, I was living by Dykeman.

Okay. Like, because I don't like to live. Like, everybody's like, oh, go get a crib in Jersey. No. If I can't go to the Dali or, like, I like going to the 99 cents store. I love stuff like that. If I can't walk around, I feel like, I feel weird.

Like, you know, like, so I like to still live around. But just when nobody knows me, like, a lot of people didn't really recognize me in Dykemen. So, so that was cool. And like, I just like to be able to walk around. So that's the part that I do kind of miss because, like, even in downtown LA, you could walk, but if you walk a wrong street over, then boom. You were like, like, skip row. And I didn't know that.

Yeah, yeah. Downtown, LA is crazy. I didn't know that. It's crazy over there. It's very like, like, you know, I got to try lightly when I'm over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm laughing because it's so real. Like, it'll be nice little lofts and things like that.

You make a laugh for you. Like, now I'm on heroin. And it's like, no, you might have to fight for your life. Like, yeah, so, mm-hmm. I bought a knife and everything. You better have a knife. You better have a knife shop. Somebody told me somebody was walking around with a machete just walking around just like,

con, hung, hung, hung, people. Oh, yeah, no. And I'm like, yeah, all right. Let me get a little knife. Yeah, be kept. Be careful out there downtown. If someone was doing that in New York, I probably just be like, leave them alone and they'll leave you alone.

Yeah, but in LA, though, I don't know. Yeah, in LA, no, they, I heard that they just, they would do it to you. And I'm like, oh, no. You know, like, because our, you know, our little crackheads out here, you, you, you know them. It's like, you know them. With the school.

You're the, all you got to do is a little fuck out of here and then they'll run away from them. Like, they only play tough. They're not real life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're real tough. And they're really crazy. They're real tough over there.

No, no, no, no. Yeah. That's so funny. It's crazy. It's crazy. No, New York, we take for granted our crackheads and our crazy. We do. Of course, every now and then, you'll see one thing happen on the train.

They'll put it on. But out of the thousand things that could happen on the train, usually nothing happened. No, literally, literally. Like, they'll leave you alone if you leave them alone. Just let them be crazy over there and everything we find. People will be like, oh, because New York, you know, the people on the trains. I'm like, girl, please, it's not that bad. It's like, but yas, though, is.

It's a different level. Yeah. Definitely different level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Music, did you go out in LA? Like, I went, all right. Oh, my God. What if LA drags me?

All right. So I went out to a club in L.A. I don't club. Mind you, I don't know. I don't club, right? But I just wanted to try. And I wanted to try different things because I'm like, I got to stop being a homebody. I got to just go out and enjoy myself, right?

Boom. I go and no. I wanted to go home so fast only because they're music. I can't get what the music. Do you know what party was? No. But I knew one song. It was a Mac Drey song that I love.

Okay. I love that song. But the other music that they were playing, I did not know it. So I didn't like it. And then they had like these girls that were dancing in there, like on the little stage. And they were dancing like, it looked like GTA. So it was like the music I heard from like GTA. I know.

I know exactly the moment she said. And then they were dancing like the GTA shippers. So I was just like, this is the thing to experience, you know? Now you see what GTA gets her from. Literally, but I was like probably never again, right? But I was like, I cannot. It always depends on the party and who's DJ. Yeah.

But then I, and then it was mad actors in there and they was just walking around and I had never seen nothing like that before. Yeah. So I'm like, what the hell? So it was, I don't know. Yeah, LA, you just have to go to the right. It has to be the right party. Or you're going to end up in like the Cokehead Hollywood scene.

That's crazy. If you don't, like, vet the club you're going to. Yeah. That happened to me. I had seen something that like kind of like traumatized me because I've never seen people do like cocaine. or that stuff. I've never seen that a day in my life.

And then I seen it. And it made me so sad. It was like real, real, real bad. It was like a house party. It was like real bad. I was like traumatized right. I had caught my sister crying the next day because I'm like, people don't even know what they do. They're killing that stuff.

They're da-da-da-da-da-da. And my sister's like, wait, wait, what are you crying for? Are you crying because you tried or are you crying because you did? I was like a girl. Now I know you were great to your nephew. Because if you're crying seeing people do Coke, you're empathetic to everybody. It was sad. And it was funny because I have.

And it was like some pink stuff that was there too. And the people were doing, what do you say it was? Too serious. So it was funny. It was whatever Puff had in the paperwork. So I called my sister, told my sister about him. I said, say, you're crying because of that. And I had cool Rich about it too.

Rich to care. I'm like, yo, people were doing that. And people got to know, this is my best friend. Rich probably was like, yo, why you ain't called me? No, no. He actually doesn't do all that stuff. It's funny. I don't know why people think that.

Yeah, yeah. 100%. He's like, he's been in the Hollywood scene. Yeah, so he's like, so why are you crying? I was like, people are doing it. And then he was like, okay, what color was it? I was like, it was peak. And he was like, oh, they were doing Tutsi.

I'm like, Tutsi. What is Tutsi? And then he was like, that's what people do now. It's okay. You got to get used to it because you're going to see more of that in L.A. They're going to do it. So, but I'm so like a homebody and I like stayed to the people. Like my friends have been my friends for 20 years.

And I grew up on my blog. We don't do stuff like that. So I've never seen that. And I never went to these parties and stuff. So I've never seen this. So when I did see it, yes, I was crying. I was upset about it. Jalen was, did I not call you crying?

And I was upset. I was upset. Like, I was distraught for about a week about it. It was probably asking follow questions. Like, okay, someone on Coke did something to you? Yeah, no, no, no, no. I just saw them do it. It was just doing Coke.

It was so sad. Because you know what? We grew up watching like New Jack City and stuff. Why would you do that? Why would you touch that stuff? Did you not see how Holly Barry looked in that movie? Like, it makes no sense. Like, you know, like, so.

That was the first thing you have to get used to in L.A. When I first went to it was people doing coke and, I mean, it didn't, it didn't make me emotional. But I was just like, I was used to people that I knew that did coke would go to the bathroom or excuse themselves. Or they would quietly do it. Or they do it with other coke heads. Like there'd be a room that I didn't know about. Yeah, I never even. But in L.A., they'll just be at the island kitchen at a house party.

Literally. Yeah. Like, you know, people could see you, right? No, literally. Literally. So I was just like, no, no, no, no. That's the one thing I love about L.A., though. Like the house, no.

The house party. have great coke in LA. Yeah. I mean, like, just the house party vibe. Which I prefer over the club. Yeah. LA has a beat. That's, that's a great.

Because like, LA, you could, somebody could be like, yo, we're going to this house party. And I'm like, all right, bet, come on. We go to the house party. And they're like, well, y'all didn't tell me this was Van Diesel's house party. Like, it's so cool. I remember somebody was invited me. They were like, we're going to a house party.

I'm like, okay, where? And they're like, Jamie Fox. And then I was like, okay. But I was too already traumatized from that one, that one party. So I was just like, oh, no, I'm just going to stay in my room in my little cubicle or whatever. Pre-cloned, Jamie, or you saw a clone, Jamie? I don't know. No, I didn't go.

Because that would make me cry. I did not go. Okay. So, I don't know. Yeah, I love that, though. Like, I wish we had that culture here in New York. Yeah. House parties in New York, like, I went to a house party in Lambert.

Ah, but I think it would get shot up. So anything. No, that's exactly what happened. But I didn't know. I never went to the house party. And that was cool. So it was at his penthouse. And I met Jana Jackson there.

I was fine. It was so cool. I was literally talking to Janet Jackson. He was like, Malibu, you remind me of my best friend. She had the same voice as you, just little. And then Jenna had made like a joke that was so funny. I cannot say it. But it was like, I'll tell you guys offline.

But it was so good that I was like, oh my God. And she was like, let's go to the bar. And I just loved that. It was like, it was so cute. Right. She was telling the house party and Janet is here. And then she was talking to me like I was one of her home girls. So I loved it.

I loved it. Yeah, that's the, that is one thing that I do love. about me and roery talk about that a lot like that coach in LA is definitely one of the best things about LA is the house party culture for sure yeah it was so cool it was so cool mall let's talk about behind the bars presented by Sprite their living track list with some of the greatest hip-hop songs of all time just running through this list the ones that really stick out to me and really define a region cream for sure I think I's one of like the greatest intros to a verse and just represented New York to this

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Or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Farrell told us personally, He loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Aside from music, though, what is some other things that you want to get into? Because I think you should model.

Thank you. I think you are like the perfect, like aesthetically. Thank you. You have so many different vibes. And I think that a lot of brands will be like, no, we need malleable on this. Yeah, so that's one of the things that I want to do. I actually did a lot of modeling. Like, so that was kind of was keeping me afloat.

During that time when I was locked in the contract. So I did a campaign for Alice in the Wing for Forever 21, Dapper Dan and Pepsi. They did a collaboration together. She was big. Yeah. And who else? Robert Cavali, they reached out. I did a campaign for them and I was like on like little billboards and stuff.

So I did a lot of modeling stuff in my early on careers. And luckily it was like with high fashion brands. It wasn't like, you know, like nothing against fashion over a pretty little thing. No shin. No. No. Like and but earlier on in my career They probably pay well

I'm pretty sure they do I know fashion over they pay well I had a little deal with them and they pay well But like I've been blessed to say that I at least like my first gigs were like high fashion brands and stuff like that So I want to I do want to get into more of them And one day I want to like walk down the runway and like A Victoria's Secret with some angel wings

I want to do that so bad one day Well listen you've already got the pool fighting scene with your best friend I know. I know. You know what I mean? That's something. That can parlay into the runway easily. Yes.

And then drawing. I draw. Really? Yeah, I draw really good, actually. And I joined. What high school did you go to? I went to, I was in social justice. Well, I was in North Carolina.

Well, I was in North Carolina. Oh, that means you was out here tripping. I was. I was going to. When I was. When I was in the wrongs, why is it always North Carolina? Yeah. It's always always in North Carolina.

I told somebody that. Like, I'm like, why did everybody from New York have a family member? but it's somewhere down south and North Carolina. I mean, get their ass out of it. I'm going to go ahead and say it has something to do with Coke again. Yeah. And 95 South, I'm just going to guess. But, yeah, see that as a reason that you're going up in down.

There is a specific connection between North Carolina and New York for some reason. It's so weird. So, yeah, my mother sent me down south. I went to Central Cabarris for two years. And then I came up here and I went to Social Justice from Third Avenue by, like, hostels. I asked them to kick me out of that school because they were. were kicking out my best friend at the time. And then I was like, I'm not gonna, I'm a failed school if y'all don't kick me out with her.

So they kicked us out together. And then I went to Lehman night school. Okay. But then I dropped out on my 12th grade year. Okay. I was like, I'm over this. Yeah. Okay.

So social justice, Lehman. Everybody wanted to fight me in school. And I would be part of this. I don't know. Because she was at Lehman? Just going there? But it was a night school. I thought it should be more chill.

No, night school is never more. I used to always go to that. Even like middle school and elementary school. I used to just always. Like, you know, like, when I was younger, like, I never used to speak up for myself. I was so quiet. I was used to being around my sisters. Like, you know, like, so I wasn't used to being around people like that.

And my mom kept us in the house. Like, we weren't allowed to, like, go outside and stuff like that when we were younger. So, like, I was used to being around my sisters. So it translated into me getting bullied when I was in school. About the time I went to high school, that's when I started fighting people. My mother told me, like, defend that for yourself. And I was like, oh, I can fight people? And she was like, yeah.

So I started literally fight. That's all you did. Yeah, I just kept fighting. So then I was like, you know what? I'm tired of it. Like, I'm tired of just going to different schools and then people have issues with me for no reason, you know? And if I was like a chatty party that ran my mouth, I will understand.

Nope, I just, no, just never. And it's funny because that happens to me today, girls be in my DM fighting crime. And your DMs, why? Yeah, they'll be fighting crime in my DM. I'm like Batman clearly and stuff. So they just be like, right? Do they solve any crime?

No. Or they're just fighting it. They just be fighting themselves. They be in there fighting themselves. And I just be like, girl. But about what, though? Like you don't even seem like you're not problematic. It's literally they be fighting crime in my DM.

Like, it's real bad. Yeah, you can't figure it out. You're like, all right. Is there ever a theme or it's just, it's all different crimes? It's always a theme. It's always a theme. I guess like, I don't know. I guess sometimes people think that you should show them more love than they show you, I guess.

I'm not sure about that. So that and then I had somebody write me like, they're trying to make you into me and you're doing. And I'm like, girl. girl, I didn't know about you until now. I didn't know you existed. I was like, shit. Now I look like an asshole and I'm just like, you know, so I don't know. I don't know.

That's always be the shit when people say, oh, I stole something for you. They're like, not to be rude. I have never seen you before a day in my life. Never watched your shit. No. Never listening to your shit. I don't know you. And then like, I don't be on Instagram like that.

Like, you know, like, I pride myself and not be one of those people. Like, I don't read the comments or after when people. right underneath my page. Like, I don't do none of that because I don't want to get warped in that whole, I care about Instagram and social media too much. I don't want to be that artist. Like, you know, like, so, yeah, so I don't know. I just don't be on there enough for people to think that I stole or do anything or just, like,

you know, like ignoring people, didn't see a like, didn't see a comment. People were, like, fighting crime. Yeah. So do you ever, well, I'm sure you do, but do you ever pay attention to the Stan, Twitter, stand, Instagram with the girls in rap? Because that's the real war on terror right now. Yeah. Is everyone choosing a certain, especially in the female rapper worlds,

where strays are thrown to people that aren't even involved in shit? Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like you can't just get caught up in that. Because a lot of beef starts because somebody thought somebody was talking about them or the fans start saying things and then it leads you. to start thinking that that's why I don't look at the comments. I don't look at the comments.

I don't read the comments. I just don't do that because it has, it starts, when you see and hear something so much over and over and over, you start to think that in your head now. And I don't got time. It starts to become real. Yeah. And I do not want to be out here fighting crime.

Like I refuse. Like, you know, no, no, no. Leave that to the police. Yeah. Yeah. Even like when I wasn't dropping music, everybody was like, oh, she's not dropping. What's wrong with her?

Oh, she's inconsistent. Tada-da-da. Once I started to see it, I'm like, let me go. Let me get off of it. Yeah, yeah. What's the biggest misconception about you that you think you've read or heard? Biggest misconception. Like something that you've read about you, you're like, what?

Like, that's not true. Damn. It was probably when the whole thing happened with Cardi. I think it was probably that. Because at that time, like the people, the ones that she was, and with on the song, it looked like I was like a hater and it looked like I joined in on that, which I was, damn. All right, so this is my first time I were talking about this.

So let me worry to myself perfectly. So around that time when the song had dropped, Katie got bands had asked me to get on one of her songs. I jumped on it. And then around the time when, I guess, when that whole beefing thing happened online, Akbar was kind of going at her. And then Katie got bands in, Asian though, were beefing. And they were all going at it. And Katie posted the song that we had did together.

I didn't one know that it was a dish towards Asian. I didn't know that. And then Akbar threw a verse on there, which I didn't know about either. So then I guess it looked like everybody was subbing and it looked like I was a part of that. And then somebody had tweeted along the lines of like, oh, pick a side. Bitches need to pick sides. And because I was cool with Asian though. I'm cool with Katie.

Like, you know, like pick a side. Somebody I don't remember over there has said something along those lines of it was Asian or Katie, one of them. So I just basically said my jest. Nobody put me in nothing because I don't want to be in nothing. If I do get in something, I'm coming outside. like, you know, like, don't talk about me because my feelings get hurt. Just don't talk about me

because my feelings get hurt and that translate into these hands. Like, you know, so like, Cardi's fans saw that and was retweeting it. So it looked like I was talking about her. Okay, got you, yeah. So then it made me look like a hater.

So then after, then it's like, she had posted, I'm outside. I'm around and I'm like, fuck. No, we're from the Bronx. You can't talk like that. We can't talk like that because, like, we know what that means. Like, you know, like in the towns,

we know what it means. So it's like, damn, now I got to pop out. And then I popped out. And then it was just like so immature. Like it was so stupid. It was so immature. Like, and it wasn't like if I had a personal issue then, okay, cool.

Like, you know? Like if I, yeah. And if I did something, I would stand on it. I stood on it because I'm like, you know, fuck it. It's up now. Like whatever. Like, you know, but at the time, like, it wasn't that. Yeah.

Like, you know? And everybody looked at me as a hater because of it. Like I jumped on like a bandwagon of attacking somebody and doing all of that. So I think that was like the miscom. about that because I hate seeing that. And it's like when you look me up or anything, that's like the first thing that's there, like the videos and all of that.

And I could understand how it did look like I was like a hater. I think that was probably like the only misconception, I think anybody. Things happen like that more than often though. Like it starts as something so innocent, like that wasn't my intention at all. And then it's like it turns into something and you like get caught up in that energy now.

Like now I'm in it. I didn't even know that this was a thing. Or talking about that person to begin with. Yeah. And then it also looked like, like, Nikki Minaj sent them to do that. And she would never do that. Like, she's not that person to be like, hey, guys, let's sit in this corner and gang up on this person. She's not that.

Even when we did, when we had the show with her, she brought us out for one of her shows. We were like sitting down and talking and she literally said it, like, to everybody. Like she knew my situation that it wasn't that. So she literally said to the other girl, I don't stop going on Instagram, basically fighting crime for me. Like I don't need nobody to talk for me. I don't want people to think that I have y'all jumping on people. I'm not telling y'all to do that.

So like, and she made that very clear. Like, you know, like, so, um, so yeah, I think that was like the big misconception that, like, Nikki sent us over there to do that. And it was like definitely not the case at all. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever get a chance to speak to Cardi after that situation? No, we had saw each other at, what's the karaoke night?

Girls love karaoke. Yeah, it was so packed in there. But like, no, but no, we never spoke about it. But it's like, I feel like if it was like something to speak about, then it was something to speak about. I don't think it was worth a conversation. I'd be like that with my friends. Like, you know, like, if me and my friends go through something the night before or nothing like that, like, it's fine. Like, there's nothing to talk about that.

That shit is bullshit. It's not nothing to like, it's not that deep to have conversations. Yeah. Because in doing that, you know what I've noticed in doing that when you try to be like, you know, let's have a conversation. Trying to have a conversation about something will give it more energy and make it feel like it's something. It's like. I lose sleep over it.

Yeah. Like, you know, like I don't even care about that. Yeah. Like, you know, like, I know I'm not no damn hater or nothing like that. Like, you know, so it was like it wasn't even like a thing that I like. was like, oh, this is, I gotta get this all for my job. No, it wasn't none of that. Like, again, it wasn't that deep for me.

Like, you know, like, so, so yeah. I respect that, man. But I do understand how things turn into, you know, manifesting to bullshit. And it's like, that wasn't even. It was a messy week, too. It was. It was.

Like, even when that type of drama gets on my radar, because that's not necessarily my world of every girl that was on the remix and this whole thing. Yeah. Once I was glued to the street. of who was going to enter the dojo. I was like, oh, this is great. Like, there was conspiracy theories.

It was a wild week. So I feel for you. We've been in those types of things, too, online when it's like you're reading something. It's like, well, none of this is true. Yeah. No, literally. And it was messed up because it was like, it kind of like took, took away the, the moment.

The moment of how. The moment of how amazing that phone was. Yeah. So it just, yeah. So I just hated that for like all of us at that time because that song was, it should have just been focused on how amazing that was, how Nikki got, like, a bunch of female rappers on one song, like, you know, like. Brought them out to the show, put them on that stage.

Yeah, it should have been fully about that. Like, and, like, the song was so good. And, like, I, literally when I heard the even, like, the fact that Nick even wrote me about it to get on the song, like, that, I was just, like, flabberg assay. I'm just, like, it's Nikki Minaj. Like, I grew up listening to her. So I think that outshine, like, it didn't outshine it because the song did what it did and, but everything.

but it was just like, it was just a very amazing moment that got kind of like pulled into some bullshit. Yeah, the bullshit she peep into it. Yeah. But I mean, there was also a good moment. She even mentioned that, you know,

she heard your flow on it and used like, she, which I thought was a really cool moment. But this is why I, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, I was on a high.

Like, I was on a high from that song because I'm like, first, and she said it. She report that part. Like, it was shot and she said it. And I was just like, like, the fact that she, even said that like Malibu inspired me to come back to write another verse and the flow and

that's correct. The fact that she picked up on my bars where I left off and it's like like I'm a like like I love rap rap like so that was like my Jada and Stiles moment like you know like how we tag team that like I don't know I was just so happy around that time and it was just like it was just amazing like it was just super cool and then I had just came out of the hospital too I had my appendix removed too so a lot of people didn't know that too so Yeah, I was out sorry, Chuck when I was talking about

I'm outside limping around. Yeah, you can't be outside. What a, my appendix would move. Yeah, I'm outside. I'm like, no, never. I'm like, no, never.

Get your stitches out first. No, it was real bad. Like, stitches was in. I came out the hospital a day before. It was a day before. Like, so yeah, so. But that's that bronch shit. Like, yeah, man,

fuck it. If it's time to go, it's time to go. No, but I got to, I got to, like, I'm trying to just like, like, like you said, like my energy's more calm, cool and collective now. I'm 35.

I feel like, you know, and then I got my nephews. Like, around that time, my nephew, they was going outside fighting crime. They fought somebody. Fighting crime. No, it was real bad. They were going to school fighting people. So when all of that went viral, too, like, I hated it. They did because they're still outside and in school.

And my nephews is like, you know, they be, they be, you know, little fake gangsters and stuff. So they was outside fighting. And I hated it. They were like, yo, JJ. They called me by, like, my little nickname. They were like, yo, JJ. People was talking shit in school and ta-da-da-da. And I had to ta-da-da-a.

and then I was like never again. If I could take that back for like for that reason because I felt like I looked like a hater and I felt like my nephews like it was so bad. So that's why I don't say nothing on social media anymore. Nothing because like my nephews, they're still outside. Yeah. Yeah, you got to be aware of that. Yeah.

But the music is on the way. Yes. The music is on the way. New single. Yes, wife is out. I'm super excited about it. I went back and forth from, you know, It was Malibu.

When is the video dropping again? The videos will be dropped when this drops. I'm just going to make sure. Yes. So me and my best friends rolling around in a little pool of water fighting each other. Yeah.

For summertime, we just need to see. That's a great elevator pick. Round of applause. To the inflatable pools. Platable pools of America. Yes, I was super excited. This is a little different song. So I was kind of like balancing

off both voices. Like I feel like Malibu is more like the bubbly, soft of voice of mine, my natural speaking tone one of the Mitch is like South Bronx Gritty Deep Voice. Right. So, yeah, so I did both voices on this song. So it was very cute.

I wanted like a crime mob type song, you know? Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's why wifey was very little. Like a little Rachelina song. A little Ratchelina. I love Ratchelina. Yes.

Let me know when you drop to Ratchelina hoodies. I need to have something, right? I'm gonna get you want. You're a Ratchelina honey. Lino is what you are. Yeah. Oh, Rachalina. Oh, yeah.

I love that. I love that. I hope you guys wear it for like a full episode. What you guys will. Yeah. Yeah, give me a ratulet. Different colors. I don't want to like match.

Okay, Matt. Like, we'll definitely wear a hoodie. But not, I don't. Give them the name of the album, Mitch. It's called Saylor Goon, like Sailor Moon. Yep. So, yes. Sayle Lagoon.

I like that. That's fire, right? I like Sailor. Yeah, you know, I'll be having these ideas. I see you, man. Big Bronx shit. But Mitch, anytime you in New York, please don't come by, come see us, come holl at us.

Anytime we're on the West Coast, we got to make sure we hit you up. Yes, tap in. Let's do dinner or something. No, let's do it. Let's do. Let's have some fun. Yeah. I'm that nigga.

He's just ginger. That's the Bronx's very own. Malibu Mitch. Go get that Sailor go now. Yes. Sailor go out. Wifee out now. Sailor goon that video too.

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