New Rory & MAL - Episode 538 | For Dolly w/ ZipWitTheDrip

Episode Date: August 28, 2026

Happy Friday! Zip joins the gang today, and we kick off this episode by paying respects to Dolly Parton, Samuel Monroe Jr., and Tim Curry, all of whom we lost over the last couple of days. Lil Durk begins off his RICO trial, and the guys discuss the tragedy of the situations that rappers have been finding themselves in with the law. Hit Boy reveals that he hasn’t spoken to Nas in three years since the release of “Magic 3”, Vic Mensa and Chance the Rapper unpack their old beef in an emotional first episode of “The Vic Mensa Show”, and we break down some of the new music coming out this weekend, including Yung Miami’s “Spend Dat” remix with Kodak Black and Lil Baby, as well as expectations for Majid Jordan’s new project! Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-forever Go to https://baskandlatherco.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jabant. I don't even know what the fuck that shit means. Manish on the beach? No, Manish on the beat. On the beat. Yeah, it's the producer. Oh. What is it?

It took me like seven listens to find that out as well. I didn't know what you. The fuck? It sounds good, though. Provocative. Oh, he Indian. What you thought? You thought he was biracial

Manish? What you thought Manish? What did you thought Manish? Shout out my nigga Manich. What you thought What you thought Manish was from? Manich on the beach?

You thought he's in Sahara East right now. What you thought Manish was from? I mean, that also sounds like it could be a black girl name. Manish? What I sound like a black girl.

That's why I thought he was saying Manisha on the beach. I was right. I know what Manisha. Like that's what I don't know. Manisha. I know. I know what I know.

I know what Mnisha for sure. Manisha? Yes. How she spelled? Well, you know. know how black people get with these names. M-A-N-I-S-H-A. I nailed Demisha before,

a girl named Misha. I don't know if that was the end part or the whole name. That was short. It might have been a whole name. That was short for either Camisha, Tamisha. It might have been a whole name. It could have, man. Right.

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Yeah. Who we lost earlier this week. Rest in peace and Miss Dolly Paw. Rest in peace to the legend, Ms. Dolly Part. I love the fact that that, um, the story about the I will always love you record. How she kept eating off of that all of me is? Because that's what every day, every chance she got, she let us know she was eating. Well, I love the part of the story when she obviously, Whitney Houston covered the song.

Yeah. and all the money that it grossed. Obviously, Dolly Parnan wrote the record. All the money that it grossed over $10 million. She put into Nashville into a black community. Dolly? Yeah, and they named the building the house that Whitney built. Oh, that's fine.

I thought that was dope that that story is going by and a lot of people didn't know that. I think every lady in America should put their tities on the phone. Yeah. And on them is Dolly Pauling. Yeah. She put titt on the map. She put tities on. I'm saying like, she's,

she put on for titty. So, like, I think every lady should throw their tities on the phone. I mean, or we could just put on, like, a blonde wig or, like, a lot of makeup or, like, be talented in country music. Like, we know if she's great all that. We can't build an amusement park today. Let's just go with what's easier. Yeah, just put your shit up.

The tithes be flying at half mass. Yeah. Put your broad half mask. Yeah. Let the tities be flying at half mass. Yeah. Fuck that. That's not.

Rest of peace, Miss Dali Pard. sexualized. That was a big thing of her. That was her aesthetic. The same way people say Marilyn Monroe is empowering or whatever. I think Dolly did that with her tities. Well, that's because everybody sexualized her so much.

She didn't really have a choice but too. Who? Dolly wasn't the first person to bring up. I got big asses. Everybody will always bring them up. So she had to eventually just like, yes, I have big tities. We all know. She wasn't trying to cover them things up, though.

She wasn't trying to cover it. And her promise, Dollie was throwing them things. She was working. Yeah. She was obviously talented as well. She knew what men was looking at. Yeah. I don't look, but then y'all going to listen as well.

I think she inspired like a whole generation of porno chicks that had them big old boobs and all. I think they were trying to look like Dolly. Absolutely. Respectful. Her aesthetic was definitely. Yeah. Her shit, like. Put your tities on the phone, man.

Do it for Dolly. Yeah. Do it for. Well, on Twitter is currently hashtag do it for Dolly. Or hashtag for Dolly and it's just women showing her cities. Okay. Right. Let's just get to that.

She was the first Titty Tuesday of all time. Are you on that hashtag? Yeah, I clicked it last night with scrolling. Hey, we all agree. No, I mean, did you jump into it? I don't have any Tis, babe. I wouldn't embarrass myself like that. But it's okay.

I got to wait. All Tilly. I got to waste of Lottie's mad. When J-Lo dies, then I could get it on that on the jail for J-Lo trend. But like the for Dolly trend, I know my, my strips and my witnesses. Well, just make sure you, you tag me so I can see that hashtag. Yeah.

I didn't see Do it for Dole. But I would love to support an honor of Ms. Dolly Parton. Right. Also, rest of the piece of Samuel Monroe, Jr., who was in some of our favorite movies growing up, Menace's Society, Don't Be a Menace, Set It Off, Players Club. He was battling meningitis, and he, you know, unfortunately, he lost his battle. So prayers and condolences to Samuel Monroe Jr. and his family. Yeah.

And it felt like, oh, Tim Curry. also Tim Curry we lost some curry Tim Curry who was that Actor from Penny Wise He was Penny Wise He was the The hotel manager in Home Alone You know Tim Curry

He used iconic in Home Alone I think he was the creepy professor And Scary Movie too as well No that wasn't him No I think they were trying to make fun of him though Yeah he was in scary movie You talk about the one with the weird hand No that wasn't the professor

You know Pennywise, though, right? I got nothing. Oh, okay. Well, I mean. Well, rest of the piece in Sanitary, iconic actor. Yeah, absolutely. So now, damn, so in Home Alone, the mom, the dad, and.

I saw on Twitter when I was at the barbershop, I was looking at my phone and they had the scene in the hotel lobby. And they was like, damn, everybody in the scene is dead. Yeah. Yeah, it was definitely, like, you don't have to word it that way. Right. Could have just honored the scene. Iconic movie. Yeah, iconic roles.

Did you see Vin Diesel put out a cover of? of I will always love you as a tribute to Dolly Parton. I'm not making that up. This isn't a troll. No, I didn't see that, Rory. We can get a little taste if you want. I don't know if we'll get flagged, but, you know. Yeah, if, I mean, you know, Ben is breathing.

Dad, that I would stay. I'll be in your way. hear that baritone where would he be in the choir with you where would you place him? He's a baritone. Yeah. No, Ron, we didn't say stop.

No, we did say stop. No, no, we got to keep. Just let that play in the background for the whole episode. Just lay it under the show. I want to hear him hit that. It's there. I listen to the whole thing.

I want to lay that. Why would he do that? It was just a grieve different. Corn, yeah. Why should he do that? C Conyk. I don't think Conyk will make a nigga do that. Yeah, Will.

Ryan, bring me the hot and stuff right now. Zip will cover. Jolene right now. You're not showing you out of doing this shit right now. Bring the Cognac right there. I just... The niggas be rich. He could do whatever they want.

That's why he did it. Niggins, he's rich. What are you going to say? Who are you? Fuck you mean? Who are you to say anything to him? He's rich. I just don't understand.

stand like we've never heard Ben Diesel sing before this have we? I don't know maybe No, he's man on fire What was that? He does sing a lot I've never heard Van Diesel He's an Italian from Staten Island

You gotta be like patched into what he got going on Okay I'm not packed You only know Dom you don't know Remember when he was out of space? You remember when he was out of space and couldn't see? Yeah That thing was getting busy Yeah, at the movie at the movie award

I fuck with Vin Diesel No I fuck with Vin Diesel I didn't I don't fuck with singing Vin Diesel What was that man upon? But you don't even know singing Ben Diesel, so I didn't know yet. No, you're right. You're right. You're right.

I mean, he's not bad. That might got some reverb on it. He's not bad, though. No. No, that was the pain. He's not bad. He didn't, he get it off on some singers. He wasn't good, but he wasn't bad.

That nigger was good and terrible, man. I think I could do that. You know, he can break dance, too. No, I know. I don't know the words. I think I did know the words. I think I don't know the and I will always love you. I can't hit that.

I can't hit that note. I don't even play myself. This is him singing Stay by Rihanna hit play on this. That might be crazier than I will always love you. I love that people have hobbies and shit. All right, man.

Stop right, right, right. Stop right, right, right. I don't like that we laughing, man. I don't like that we laughing right now. What are we without family? Stop right there, man. What's happening? I've never seen any of this.

He lives his life a quarter mile at a time. This thing is fast and furious, Paul. He's going, is Vin Diesel going through something? Y'all fucking one right now? No. I've never seen it. I play that shit, man. I want to hit it out.

That's old. This is old. Ryan, don't keep cutting it off because Maher say cut it off. We want a vibe. It's not just something you take. It's killing. You don't feel this song the way me and Vindu. Round and around and around.

He turned into a Brit. with the visual he's talented he is man Ryan Paulson he's not that bad He's not hey They're laughing I'm not laughing

I like you like that If you like him Just say you like him That's all That's crazy Why don't you have me Defending biracial today Like

You're jumping and defending All the biracial's today I know we don't got you doing anything Is Vin biracial or is he just a white guy From Staten Island? No Vin is biracial Okay But you're not feeling that?

No. You see how honest that was? No, I'm not. I'm not feeling that. Haven't you been to like Vin Diesel's house? He didn't do a quartet? No, he was literally just chilling. Oh, he don't know if he black.

That's what I don't know if he black. He's his adopted. He don't know his biological father. His adopted father was African American. His mother's English, German, Irish and Scottish. His adopted dad, I guess his mom's boy. He might be African American. But his dad, Ben Diesel has black in him, bro.

I know black when I see black. You saw like Puerto Rican, Cuban and something? I saw that younger picture of him? He's definitely. That boy got black in him. Yeah, he's dead. And if your stepfather was black and your mama white, it's a good chance your real daddy was black. Right.

She's like, she thought he was adopted. She got a type. He fucking went black dude. Okay, he just didn't know his real father. He doesn't know his real father. Oh, no, that's a mulatto, man. Yeah, it's hair, yeah. That's a mulatto.

Yeah. I went to school A kid that looked just like that I'm no mad at them niggas Yeah Burr upstate New York Capital of them niggas Yeah

That's where they all at The most Most mulatto Yeah It is They just congregate up there It's way more mulatto In fucking

Downstate New York In the city Than it is upstate They came from No they Because what happens Is all of the prisons Are upstate

All of the prisons Is upstate And then once they Released A lot of the single white women Nah, the white girls is just biting upstate. Yeah. Yeah.

When the prisoners come home. No, it ain't the niggas gets hoods up north. Yeah, we, they ain't, they ain't go to jam. A lot of the niggas is implants, though. They wasn't born and raised there. Yeah, they is. Yes, they, uh, kill, y'all got upstate fly up. There's like, six generations of buffalo nays.

I'm too much. Buffalo niggas, Syracuse niggins. Yo, what the fuck? They have babies with white girls, bro. That's the regular. Yeah, upstate white women love black, man, for sure. At one point, they was leading. nation and like interracial leading the nation.

I'm dead ass. Shut up right. They lead the nation in double doubles. And like and like what they call like interracial. Yeah. They had LeBron staff. Every Halloween she'd get pregnant. New York State.

What? White girls be biting up here. Well, rest in peace to Dolly. Yes. Put your tities on the phone. Yeah. Arlene's cousin. Did he have a name in menace or he was just Arlene's cousin?

I think he introduced himself as. Yeah. We don't know what his name was. That's how he introduced himself. But damn, man, in Jaita, damn, man. That's tough. Yeah, that's rough. Most iconic walk across along in movie history, in my opinion.

Even though it says in 1993, Cromedomé, Sammy Moore and Drew played the role of Aileen's cousin. You don't know what his name is. He ain't know what his name is. Aileen's cousin. That's it. Hey, homie, your name, Kay? Yeah.

To check it out, partner. I'm Arlina's cousin. Yo, what's your name? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think you know me, man. Remember when he told Sharif that he fucked Arlena and like Sharif got like really upset? He's like, yeah, I fucked. Sheree was like, how could you do that?

Sharif was my son. That nigga dead, Sharif. It's not right, okay? It's not right, all right. It's not right. I'm staying. I'm staying. That nigga dead, Sharif.

We got to do that shit another time. No, the funny shit, Sharif did in that movie, would sit on top of the cooler where the beer was to try to defend it. Just kicking knowledge, yeah. With a hoodie on. Get your salakum salam ass off the cooler and pass me a book. Salakum Salam.

So that movie was hilarious. That movie's a classic classic. I remember being young seeing minutes. And soon as I finished watching it, as soon as I finished watching it, I knew that was a classic. I want to watch this again. I was like, this movie was incredible. Because like boys in the hood to easy ease,

it was like an after school special. It's a classic, but it's an nigga said I had the Jimmy all extra tight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imagine a girl calling you'd be like, it ain't mine. I know it's not. He said, I had the Jimmy or extra trip.

When you had it on extra loop? Right. Like, what's that? I didn't know. You got it on. You got it on extra tight. What is it? Put it on and you roll.

You cuff that shit like that. You said, I had it on. Like your pants on your teeth. Now you do you. Todd knot in the side of your shit. Like a balloon? Like a water balloon? Yeah, yeah.

I doubled out of the Jimmy. Extra type. That shit was hilarious. Niggins say I had the Jimmy on extra tight. I felt them though. Fuck out of it. Fuck out of it. But no, menace, menace, classic, classic.

Rest and peace. Have you guys been keeping up with the little Dirk trial, though? I've seen little clips online. Jamie the Bull. Anybody, you know, talking and, no, I mean, from what I'm seeing, It just doesn't look bad. A close affiliate of Dirk's. He testified.

He pointed fingers. Yeah. So, you know, whenever that happens. Now, they got Brian, they got Brian Steele in there. You know, they're trying to get Brian Steele to get another one of our guys from the coach at home. He was the lawyer for Young Thug. I don't know, man. I feel like, I feel like Dirk is giving Brian Steele money for no reason.

Why you feel like that? Because whatever he's about to do, whatever Brian Stilke is about to do, the public defender could have did that. You feel like there's no, there's nothing more that Brian still could do? You feel like Dirk's fate is signs still delivered?

I feel like the way they're talking is man's in them pointing them fingers. You in videos talking about not getting in the jam, I do this with jam and all of that. And now jam is on the stand saying you the one. Right. I feel like

if you owe Brian still and them other people with any money I ain't got that what y'all gonna do you ain't coming bet should have saved his money and got Keith E.D.'s

Beach Boy attorney. Whatever the fuck he got he's wasting that in my opinion. I'm saying, I never heard a nigga beat a fed case like this severe. I heard niggas beat the feds before the niggas never beat the feds. I watch

niggas never beat the feds. I watch niggas be gun cases and the fans a lot. Yeah. But I never heard the nigga beat this kind of case. He's reportedly paying $100k a day for his legal case. Jesus Christ. Give me that shit. Tell me that fuck out of here. Tell him nays to take a day off.

You don't need them. You don't need them, niggas. Yeah. I'm telling you, tell the take a day off. Give me that shit, bro. Word up. Who was the witness in the thug case who was hilarious? Who lo, Woody?

Yeah. Why I saw Woody when they said, why are you shrugging? Because they my shoulders. Like, he turned, he was a witness, but he turned that shit into a circus. So there was hope. That was a stake case. There's not really hope in this one.

You're my honest opinion about Young Doug in them niggins situation down there? That shit was a Tala Perry movie. No, it was the funniest case. Fuck that. That shit was a Trial of comedy. Nothing happened to nobody in that shit I feel like. Tala Perry movie, man.

What is the funniest? People locked up for that, though, no? Yeah, but if I just feel like the first, judge the black dude and then they switched the judges and then all of this shit going that shit was a movie. Well, no, that's to where it's To the point. It needed to get on his job. It turned into a circuit. It was a complete circus. Whereas this

from what I, because you know, there's no cameras the way there was with the thug trial, this appears like they have three. That's a straight up saying everything and because I'm saying it's the state of Georgia versus Young Doug and them niggas, right? This is the United States of America. Yeah. This is every, this is the whole collective.

Yeah. Nebraska niggas, the Idaho and everybody. All of them against you now. We the people. We the people The United States And fuck the people The United States of America Yeah It's a difference bro

Yeah No I should I mean I think he's done bro What he's facing life Right if he found guilty Right Hell yeah

Hell yeah Man murder for hire In a Fed That shit might be a death penalty It ain't I don't think It's a death penalty But they might

Can fry you in the fans For that type of shit still Yeah It's Fens still got the death penalty Sir State still got it I know New York State don't got it

But like the fans Still got the death penalty Man But what is it, though, Zip that, because I just feel like we're seeing too many guys that are doing well for themselves, making a lot of money that are going through these, not this type of case, but have to stand before judges and things like that, like coming out of the culture. It's like these guys are making a lot of them. Obviously, you could afford 100K a day for your legal team. That means you're making a lot of money. So, but what is it that, obviously, I don't know.

What is it in our culture that we obviously missed or doing wrong to where guys like this are still running into situations like this? They laughed at nise. Old said, yo, you witnessed it from your folks' pads, scribbled it in your notepad. They laughed at nize. They told me guys, y'all niggas need some street credibility.

You laughed at the niggas that ain't having nothing and forced the niggas from the streets. Like, oh, you need some type of street credibility. Okay, so this is what the fuck you're going to get. The niggas with the street credit, the niggas in the streets, that can rap when they get in the music industry, don't worry, they're being jail soon.

That's what they ask for. In the music industry, I swear to God, when the little niggas that ain't never do nothing was rapping, it was, whatever, then it was, y'all niggas ain't really front of streets. Right. We started getting niggas like beans in them niggers that was really from the streets. And so you had to be like these kind of niggas,

50-cent type niggas. You had to be front of streets. And so this is the shit. that go on in the streets. Yeah, but it's just, I mean, you know, for somebody that's having, has the success as Dirk and, you know, to end up in a situation like this, there's something that we're doing wrong. There's something in the culture that's severely off because once you are in a position

that's Dirk and become the cash cow and is able to take care of your family and friends and, you know, employ others, you should not be running into a situation like this. You should be completely out of the way, completely focused on, you know, living a life of being an artist and doing what you're doing and not facing life in prison.

Some of these niggas is hustling so the gang niggas could be better off. They is not, it's not, you see, you're thinking from your mind state, you've never been in the gang, this is not what you went to. You're thinking, once I get this money, I'm just taking care of my,

you're not thinking, thinking like these niggas that be killing people, they mans and them niggas is getting killed. I got a little bit of money now. My main objective is to kill all of these niggas over there. You're talking about taking care of my family. They're going to be a lot. We got some money put aside.

But my main objective right now is to kill all of them niggas. That's what they own. It's like, I don't know. I can't be like, oh, yo, it's a, that's some sad shit. But that's the reality of this shit. I think these niggas is getting all of this money to get away from that shit when that's not the case. these niggas is getting as much money as they can

to hurt them niggas that hurt them before, bro. Yeah, but when is it, so at that point... This is when it stopped, nigga. You mean when it's not going to stop here? Right. So for them it stops here. Right. But then there'll be another one.

Then it'll be another one. Then there'll be another one. Well, unfortunately, this isn't even part of that. They made them. This is honestly started from rap. This is rap. I could have a bit, a bit more understanding of... And again, I'm not going to pretend like I know about the old

block 63. I'm never going to pretend like I know about that shit. But that I would have a bit more understanding of they grew up in that environment. This is rap. This came from Cuando Rondo, who is from Georgia and then from Chicago. This is rap. That's what makes this the cornyer part of the entire thing. And I'm not going to pretend like I know what it's like to be in that situation. And I'm not even here to judge anyone on it. But I'm saying I can totally understand Chicago gang shit before I can understand some rap shit. But that is now people is facing fed charges

and the people you took care of are now ratting on you. Like to me, this is so corny and so unnecessary. That's the only murder he's fighting? Now his friends are giving up every murder that ever happened. His brother murder and all of that, right?

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It started with the Cuando Rondo some, like, you know, the whole thing that happened with Vaughn. But now his man's in them that he took care of. while they were in prison

and then when they got out are now flipping on him and given every murder ever that happened in Chicago and everywhere else. Yo, bro, you heard what academics was asking him certain questions?

I know. He was giving him smug like, like, I saw the one clip and all of that. Oh, they can't say sly for Vaughn no more and shit like that.

See what I'm saying? Like, like, like, I, so, so when I was growing up niggies used to rap

about the speech shit, right? But you could almost listen and tell like, they think, capping. You just rapping, nigga. You might be in the

streets doing something, but you ain't telling us what you in the streets doing. It sounds to me, like if you listen to these niggins songs, they'll tell you what the fuck is going on in the hood. And y'all niggas is leaving room for these prosecutors to get y'all niggas in these courtrooms and prosecute y'all because of the shit y'all niggas is saying

in interviews and his songs. That shit is like asheny-nony me, right? I don't understand that shit. But Zip, somebody like you, right? You, you, you from that for real. If you happen to get in a position now where you making 10, 15, 20 million dollars, right? Something happens in the hood.

Niggas got to call the police. Don't call me. Fuck out of it. I already did my 20. I ain't do 20 before. I'm talking about, yeah, if you didn't do 20 before. I didn't do 20 before, you never know. You understand?

That's what I'm saying. You never know, homie? Like, niggas don't be knowing that shit is real, homie until it's real. I mean, I get that. You got to think about it like this, too. Little niggas ain't have nothing. Right.

Nigger, I've got 40, 50 million now. Yeah. Nigger might feel like can't nothing happen. That God complex shit is real. Niggas be feeling like, I do what the fuck I want. Not all this money. Yeah, nigga, I just went it took a million dollars out,

nigga, we're passing this money around. This shit gonna be, niggas ain't gonna never know it was me. Yes, they is gonna know it was you. This thing is gonna tell. Right. You're in the video with this nigga. You don't know he's staying. That's the shit about the gang shit to me, you are.

Like, if you're in the gang and you tough, I would lead a gang alone, bro. Because that niggas is going to tell on you. Right. All you know how to do is roll up weed. Mm-hmm. He rolled up weed and he knows how much grabber to put in there, whatever. He don't mind running to the liquor store whenever. He'll fly nigger.

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I think that when Shadi said what he said, I think I can't remember exactly what he said, but I think at the time I remember saying, I respect Shadi because he said something to the extent of, I'm not even mad at Shottie. Because he's not no, like, that's my fault. I made him privates to shit that he shouldn't even be privy. Yeah, that's a nigga trying to co-ke with that shit.

That's what I'm saying. That's accountability. He didn't believe that. He don't really mean that. If they put the nigga in the cell with a nigga, that means you ain't going to beat them up? Wait, why can't two things be true, though? Yeah, I think two things can be true, there.

I think you still want to beat a nigga up, but then you'd be like, you know what? But that was my fault. Like, I should have never had him around that. Oh, I'll get that. You know what I'm saying? But I think the fact that- All that forgive, shawty shit?

I don't think he was forget. I think he was like, I think he was like, I can't be mad at it. Like, yeah, I can't be mad at it. Yeah, I can't be mad at. Yeah, they say that shit. yo, don't say nothing on the phone that you don't want to hear play back in the courtroom. Right.

Niggas is still say shit on the phone, bro. Like, yo, my nigga. The fuck, nigga? Oh, yeah, I'm gonna call you back face-time. No. I don't want to talk about that. We used to joke about that years ago. Remember when criminals thought FaceTime audio?

Yeah, yeah. My man had this thing he used to put on the camera and make it like the phone is cracked so you can't see none. I used to blame. I don't want to talk about none of this. I'm not in none of that. Like, I don't want to back from.

trying to shower. I don't care about none of that. I don't want to hear about it. I don't care. Yeah, I don't care about that. All right. So that's what I don't understand. Even with the KVD trial, there's, all right, whatever is testimony, they're pulling up jail

calls that are recent. Like, he's talking to his people at home. Why don't you realize this is recorded? You're in jail. Son, them jail niggas don't be giving a fuck, bro. I just don't. That part, I don't understand. How you not know you're being recorded on a jail phone?

They tell you you being recorded. Like, they tell you. They interrupt your conversation. Nah, not in the state, they tell you better, but they tell you like, this call the subject of recording and monitors. It will be turned over to the peoples. If we, now I'm saying?

Nigger will get right on the phone like, yo, bro, nigga, I got some weed in. I'm talking about some weird. You want to be what, nigga? I ain't got it, bro. I don't got it, bro. Yeah, I'll holler at you later. Yeah.

The fuck, nigga? They don't care. Either way, man, to your point, Zip, yes, it's not looking good for Dirk, man, but, you know, continue prayers to him and the road that lies ahead for him, man, because it's not going to be easy,

but, you know, you don't ever want to see, you know, guys that had the opportunity that he has throw it all away, and then, you know, it's just unfortunate, man. It's a sad case all the way around, man. But what about these dudes with these corny narratives talking about, oh, yo, Dirk is trying to blame it on another nigga and I, like, dudes is so stupid.

like trap law raw so i'm saying other people posting that yo if you don't can't stand a he yo tell on somebody like what nigga he's not telling on nobody yeah a nigger a nigger has confessed and say he did everything he didn't say he did everything and dirt paid him to do it what the fuck is dirt in them supposed to say he didn't do that this nigga said he did it so what they're supposed to say he didn't do that no maybe he did it all right he did it but we ain't pay that nigga to do shit. Right. That's how you fight a case.

He said he did that. It ain't like niggas just came out the blow and was like, you know what? We're going to blame this. But is he saying that he did it on? It was opening arguments. The lawyer said, but Dirk don't have a deal, bro. Dirk is not in cahoots with the government. Right.

He's not telling on nobody, bro. You niggers that is in cohuts with the government is telling on a nigger. Right. And if you said, yo, I, I, I, I, I, I got the rent of cars. I'm the one that did this. I booked the flights. I did all of this.

All right, bitch, you heard him say he did that? Maybe he's not lying. What the fuck? He said I'm doing it. He lying about that. Yeah. What's the fuck? And this is why.

And then the trapleros guy, like, he's like, oh, I never called him a snitch. I'm like, yo, you literally painted it as that was what. He's blaming it all. You basically made it seem like Dirk was the one that was sitting up there like, nah, he did it. I didn't do it. No. That guy's working with the government.

and admitted to everything that he did. My defense is saying, but I have shit to do it. So according to, I guess his name is Jam, his testimony, Dirk was angry about King Vaughan's death and wanted Cuando Rondo

and or Lil Tim killed. Jam described in a conversation with Dirk allegedly communicated that if they caught Cuando or Little Tim, they would be taken care of financially. Then people from the crew were sent to California.

Jam said the group traveled from Chicago to the West Coast got transportation obtained clothing disguises obtained Guns initially planned to ambush Cuando at a hotel Abandoned the first attempt because there was too much police activity Later carried out the attack that killed Lilpa Pab yeah which is and Jam says Jam says he personally participated in the shooting So yeah Dirk's defense is like all right cool you said you did all that but we ain't got none that's not snitching that's

Yeah. If you're saying you did that, okay. I bet you did it, but I ain't pay you to do it. Right. So, Dirk's lawyers are saying, uh, Jam isn't some random innocent eyewitness. He's a guy who pleaded guilty himself and he's testifying for the government. That's extremely important. Dirk's defense can basically tell the jury, you're supposed to believe this guy who admitted participating in a murder after the government gave him a deal. That's exactly why cross-examination is going to matter so much. The defense has already been attacking the government's corroborating witnesses and questions. things like how far their interviews were conducted and how often those conversations were actually recorded. Yeah. Okay.

Defense got a fake. Watch what they asked the nigger. Because when you want, when the niggas on trash call opening the door. So if the defense, like, say the prosecutors already asked the nigger certain question, that's it. They can't really say shit else. And I'm saying? But if the defense get up there and bring up certain shit, the prosecutor.

they ain't never bring up. Oh, re-direct. Now the door open. Now this nigga talking about all kind of other shit. Him and dirking them niggas might as sure the niggas got to be easy. How you deal with these kind of rat bastard ass niggas and all of that. That shit is fucked up. He was wearing a wire too, wasn't he?

I don't know. You don't know. I'm saying calling him Jammy the Bull. It's a good name. He said he was killing people and he's telling on people, jammy the ball. That's a good name. And they went through everything that Dirk did for him.

That shit makes it. even crazy. He was in jail for, for, like 10 years. And Dirk, so he came in like, he came out, like,

yo, we got you. Like, dirt is so much for this kid. Yeah, but that's how I'd always go, though, man. Like,

that's, you could do it, you could do everything for somebody and it's still ain't enough. Hmm. You can't buy loyalty, man.

You can't buy loyalty. That just got to be, that just got to be in you. That just got to be how you design where your moral compass lies. Like, you can give a nigga $100 million dollars

and he'll turn, he'll turn, he'll turn on you. And you know what's crazy about this? Before, like, and again, just from citizen outside looking in, you just have to go to witness protection and live a boring fucking life and just go live with what you did. He'll probably get a podcast deal.

Who? For sure. Jammy the bull? Merch and all that. Yeah. Merching all that, funny. Dead ass. Yeah, merch.

And all the people in the comments will be like, well, I would have done the same. thing. And then if somebody like me who's just a civilian, and be like, that's fucked up, they'd be like, oh, you never did, no street shit. You do the same thing in the situation. Like, he will be celebrated. Like, this is celebrated now. You're celebrated. A lot of you dudes are platforms going to have them up there, going to book him for an interview. That's what I'm saying. It's like, there's no, anything goes. You can do whatever you want. There are no penalties anymore. And I just, I also don't understand that perspective, too. No, I would never be in a situation

where this could happen because I don't commit crimes and I never have. and I've never been part of that life. But I can also observe somebody selling out their friends and going that's wrong. Oh, absolutely. Like, why can't as a civilian? I'd be like, no, that's fucked up. Absolutely.

I'm saying, dishonored is dishonor. Like, dishonored. That same motherfucker that toll on his man in the streets, he would have been in charge of the treasury and the net, whatever. And I'm saying, they fuck the money around for the community. Like, he's a dishonorable motherfucker regardless if they was in the streets or not. You know what I'm saying? That's just who he is.

He did something. He signed up for something. and then went against what he said he would do. Put that in any other place outside of criminal, you'd still be like, yeah, what's wrong with that guy? He told, he got on the stand and told that jury that he took place to homicide, like three murders, they say. He said he talked about three murders that he took part in.

So I'm saying, you didn't did the worst shit you could possibly do on this earth. A few times. And I'm saying, you didn't did that shit a few times. And now we're supposed to believe that you're this honorable person you're doing this shit out of the... No, you bit like jurors be on some bitching.

That's what I keep saying about the internet though. The internet is where the nerd is that. You hear I, Roy, he's like, yo, you check the comments. There's people, you're going to get a podcast. Because it's the internet. This is the revenge of the nerves. The streets. He ain't going to be able to go get his hair cut in Chicago.

He ain't going to be able to do that. No, no, no. He ain't going to be able to pull up to the weed spot in Chicago. No, no, no. You understand what I'm saying? have a basement with neon signs and lights. On the internet, he's going to be good. Yeah.

On the internet, where the nerds is in power. Right. This is the most diversity of nerds is on the internet. They invented this shit. Mm-hmm. Now I'm saying? He's going to be good on the internet. But in the street, he's not going to be good.

Yeah, no, he definitely can't be in Chicago. How many niggas you put down and you're not, you still not going to be good? No. You put them niggas down at work. You're not even tough, really. So what you did that? You did that with the, I'm about to get out of jail free. If I had that?

Mm-hmm. If I had that. If that was the option, I could tell on somebody, I would have been one of the worst niggins in New York City ever saw. And you'd be mad when they say your ass and need you go back to jail. I don't need to go back to. I ain't doing crime. So they can suck my dick saying that.

But what I'm saying is if I could snitch, if I could have had the opportunity to snitch on somebody before? Like if I'd have knew of my mind, if I ever get caught for this shit, I'm snitching on somebody. Oh, my God. What? I did all this shit With them like, oh

They catch your little black ass You're going to jail, army And you might be there for a very long time I'm going to sit up, yeah I'm doing this shit anyway Right That's how I was Yeah, yeah

If I knew I could I could come home, yeah I could cash that in A brazen It would have been a brazen act What? I would have had a list Yeah, shiny face and all of that

Face mask, right? Fuck you're talking about. I woke up and took care all of my business this morning before I did this. What? Right before I snitch, I have a few things I want to get done. Yeah. Face mask, signy.

Damn, man. No mask. Right. Right. This shit go down, nigga, yo, he did that. And I don't respect none of them. They be like, yo, man, he rat, but he still poor work. He only did that shit because he knew he was going to tell.

That's the only the funniest shit of when you see the rats that now have YouTube pages. Like, I want to change my life. No, you want to change your life the day you got a. arrested and rat. You would have never changed your life. You'd still been putting people down. You'd still been doing that. As soon as you got locked up and they took you away from that pussy,

they don't be, they nobody tell, bro. They don't want to leave that pussy, bro. That's my biggest fear of jail is not just how scary it could be. Is you just there's no pussy? Yeah, that's how they don't want to leave that pussy. How long, how long you think realistically your girl going hold you down if you got to go do a bed?

How long is the bed? Before she, before she, before she like. What do you mean hold it down? Like, she's not going to sleep with nobody else. Are you looking for that? you looking for the wrong thing. You shoot at the wrong basket, honey.

You want her to not do that? Wait, I'm just saying. You remember how she used to do that to you? You think she don't like doing that? You think she just did that she did it because of you? Yeah. Huh? You think she did that because of you?

No, she liked that shit, nigga. Fuck, she was to just stop? Hold it down. You're asking for the real shit. You better ask for some money. You better act for $200 a month, nigga. Fuck you're talking about. That's hauling it down.

Fuck, you mean, $200 a month. package, all of that. That's holding it down. They go all that, yo, don't sleep with nobody. You fucking. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, realistically, like, when you went in and you had a girl,

like, how long do you feel like, like, no, she definitely seen somebody else? Like, when did it, when did you, like, just accept that? Like, how long? Too much. We fucking. Yeah. Every day.

And now you just don't. Yeah. I mean, I felt that way, but I'm at going to chair with exes. Like, they got the guns. Like, you ain't doing nothing. Yeah. Like, all these things out here? No, I've thought, without going to jail,

without a ass that fucks that much, like she's going to stop fucking because we're not fucking. That's when the bitch's dip on you. When she be holding it down? Don't be fucking nobody. So when she fuck somebody, you're done. She's out. I'm sure that you shouldn't even been on that with her.

I got to ask my man how long his, before his girl dipped out on him. How long y'all holding it down? If she go to jail. Right. she go to jail? Because I look at that way. She know how much I like this day?

If my girl go to jail, it's like, wait, you made that decision. I mean, my girl go to jail, how long? I'm holding it down? No, I'm not. I'm a stop you. I'm not being papoose on them. She got a 10 piece. 10 years?

Jesus Christ. She got to do 8.5 off of that. Nah. She got a 10 boys. You lost me at the half. 85%. I'll go see her. 85% is 8.5.

She's going to be the queen of the commissary. Yeah, I'll hold her down. Corsary. commissary. What you mean holding out? Commissary, visits, call every day, set pictures. You see what I'm trying to tell you? Right, right. What you're holding it down on me?

Yeah. Holding it down on me, not giving a nigga no pussy. Right. You better give a nigga some of that. Just don't tell me about it. I mean, you better give a nigga and some of that shit. But do you fake, like, do you, do you face it? Do you know, when you install like, okay. You better? Nigger, shit get real.

And tell you the minute, yo, Jody got your bitch, nigga. Jody got your bitch, Joby. That's what they call that that, nigga, Jody. Is that some military shit? That's jail shit too. Yeah, Jody got that bitch. Oh, my God. Niggas be arguing on the phone and all that. Niggas be in the day with life.

11 o'clock, nigga, you can't make no more calls a nigga. It's over. Cockblocking. What is you doing? That's what you doing right now. Yelling, yo, where you going? What the fuck you mean? Where she's going? Where are you going? Wherever she walked. Wherever she was. And you can't do nothing about that.

I'm asking. He's made us look at you like a bozo. You come out the, nigga come out the phone move for niggas be like. Your whole little aura. All that shit is gone. You are you holding a phone like this talking all crazy? Niggins be looking at it.

Coming out of the thing. You guys like, I don't even give a fuck about that bitch. Yeah, I hear you. You all right. Jail is crazy. nigga. Are you hear me? Jail is crazy. The streets is crazy. I've been seeing niggas arguing in the streets with bitches on the phone.

Yeah, but that's a little different because you can actually go pull up and see her. Arguing with your girl on the phone in jail. It's crazy to me. It's worse. Yeah, that's what that's crazy. But you arguing with a bitch on the phone in the streets? I think it's where you at? Oh yeah. I'm not doing. I don't know. Bitches a hundred something. Billion bitches. Oh, yeah. You agree with you. You argue a lot. She don't want to tell you when she had you arguable?

Yeah, I understand. At least the nigg in jail. He needs that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He needs that. That's the only ear to civilization, like. Oh. He got 20.

Yeah. He need that. Yeah. That's a knick out here arguing. Yeah. Niggies out here be fighting. Yeah, no. I definitely don't understand that.

Thing is a fight. Oh. She's like another nigga. That's some funny shit. Did you see the hit boy? Hit Boy did an interview with a lad and Elliot. Yeah. The double team.

What they call it? I don't know. That's like in URL when it's like two of them on stage. It was Hit Boy versus Dumpto. There's no disrespect to DNA and Kashan. But remember when they did the double team shit to all the NFL execs? When they wrapped his NFL teams in the border? I don't remember that.

I'm glad you don't. Yeah, I don't remember that one. But Hit Boy, this interview was shocking to me to hear that with him and Nas stand. And in the interview, he said that he and Nas hasn't spoken in three years. Yeah. And doesn't see them working together again in the future. They obviously had six albums together. He said he didn't speak to Nas and three years.

We did six albums. 80 songs in three years produced every single song on his album that won a Grammy. Nause is one and only Grammy, I think, right? Correct. From my understanding, yes. Right? Yeah, we did a lot of great work. Which is fucking crazy.

Yeah. We did a lot of great work, but I don't see his work. again, there's a lot of reasons, you know what I mean, but it's something I don't really want to dig too deep in because it's pretty deep. Yeah, before we get to that, did you guys see the video on Twitter of the guy that had to like put the interview and fast forward between Vlad and Elliot? And no disrespect to them, because I'm not saying I'm the greatest interviewer, but Hip Boy dropped that bombshell and then Elliot and Vlad just started talking about themselves and their opinions about Nas and their relationship with Nas and bee picking and hip-picking and

boy sitting there for an hour. It was like, well, yeah, I'm never speaking to him again. And they was like, oh shit, you did mention that. You know, I'm the one that came up with this? He doesn't have good beats. Yeah, yeah. It was the wildest. And listen, I'm not sitting here like, I'm the greatest interviewer. And I love Elliot. And I mean, Vlad is great at his job. But that was the funniest video I've seen on the internet in quite some time. Hit Boy dropped one of the craziest interview lines that we have heard in a whole year. And Vlad and Elliot went on to talk about themselves. Yeah, that's first of all, that's just wild.

But that hit boy saying that, that threw me off. I was not expecting to hear that. Yeah. I'm hit boy that. He hasn't spoken to Nas in three years. I get it, though. Money or bitch? Nah.

I think it was, you know what I think. I think Nas probably didn't want to sign that, give him a hit boy any of that publishing. Not pub. I think it was my dad. Um, I think, of course hit boy is going to get pub regard, 50, pub because he's,

because he's producing 50. I think Hit Boy probably went into that thinking it was 50-50 on everything, on the Masters as well. Right. I know it wasn't, like, it is a Nas album. If you go on streaming, it's just not Nas and Hit Boy. But I think Hit Boy probably thought,

us going into this series of three albums plus this other three, this is a partnership that we have and Nas doesn't have to answer to anyone. It's not some major label shit. I think hit probably went into that thinking this was 50-50 on Masters too. All the way around, yeah.

That's just my guess. I have no fucking idea. No, that's a great guess. That's a great guess. I believe that. When I say pub and not to, obviously, he's going to get his pub. Yeah.

He's going to produce the song. But I'm talking from everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I, that was shocking to hear. I'm not going to lie. That, fuck, that threw me off. I was like, damn. Like, and then not to speak in three years,

you do 80 songs with somebody. And, you know, one of the most iconic legendary emcees that we've ever had. Who, for what we know. Obviously, we're not privy to his business, but he seems like his business acumen is intact. Nas. Nas is probably one of the greatest businessman in hip hop ever. Right.

So knowing all of those things that we know, never heard any negative stories about Nas when it comes to business and things like that. So to hear hit boys say this and then say, we haven't spoken in three years. Yeah, that was shocking. I'm not going to lie. That's going to be off.

And not me, though. Why? Why? Because, like, besides jungle, like, nigga don't really hear about niggas used to be fucking with like that. What you mean? That, that's plain as a motherfucker.

Where's horse? Yeah. Where's Nash? Where's Naysson? Where's Naysan? CoreMega. Foxy. CoreMega was on one of the projects with,

right, but did what I'm saying. And Nyes have a great relationship now. Shout to Mega. Shout to Mega. Now, but for, 20 years, they didn't have a good relationship. Yeah, but I think both of them have that. Yeah, but they also didn't produce 80 songs with Nas.

Right, but I'm saying, but they was around, though, like you produced 80 songs with a nigga, but you might not have been around the nigga more. You could have been sending these, nigga, these songs. Yeah, but if I produce six albums with you and get you your first Grammy, I would think that, I would think that we would probably speak pretty often. But it just seems to me like Nas don't got a lot of long-standing relationships. I get what you saying.

But we don't know that because we don't really know. All right, yeah, Nishon, which I think is his cousin to begin with. But we don't know those relationships like that because we don't know Nause like that. We don't know this one like that. We're just saying, I just know track record says that Nass doesn't have a lot of longstanding relationships. I'll get what you saying. I hear you. But I do want to give some pushback there that we don't really, he could have that in his real friendships, not his, like what he puts with the brave hearts.

Because the brave hearts could be business, even though he grew up with them. Horse from Queensbridge and they shot. That's not business. I know it's not, but at the same time, but at the same time, we don't know how close they were. Oh, right. Horse could have been a rapper. That was great in my neighborhood.

But he wasn't really like my closest friend. I get what you saying. But we put him on Braveheart's. But it started as a personal relationship. For sure. But Nas could still have his closest friend. I mean, we do know his closest friend passed, but, you know, we don't know that about Nas.

And I think, again, speculating, which is unfair, but we're on a podcast. Hit Boy didn't have his business intact, which he made very clear. Hove cleaned that up for him, which was amazing to see. But that was on the pub side. I don't know. They probably waited

to all six of these albums were done before they even really talk business. Because there was no major, I think they was like, let's just cook up. Which plenty of artists have done that. Especially in that caliber, like, bro, we'll figure it out.

Like, let's just make good music right now. And we'll have our people figure this shit out. Especially, Rory, when you're somebody like a hit boy who is probably, probably just honored to be in addition where you work with Nass so closely and getting all these songs done. You definitely don't stop that momentum and say, yo, can we get the business straight though? Yeah. On this, can we make sure we get these things agreed upon? Like, you don't stop

it. You're just assuming that. You're just assuming that. Yo, this is Nause, bro. We're going to figure all that shit out on the back end. We're going to get it right. Regardless, like you said, I'm going to get, I'm producing all the songs. So I'm going to get paid. But like, you know, I could see how that, to Rory's point, the momentum just started. They started laying joints down. And then when it was time to get the business right, you know, maybe now's just like, nah, I'm not giving you off the masters and all. Like, nah, we ain't.

These were Nause albums. Yeah. These ain't a Nogos. Producers don't get the masters off. Right. So, you know, I think to Rory's point, because obviously hip boy has had things in the past where the business wasn't necessarily right on, you know, the work that he was doing. and I could see this being another case where it was just like, man,

I'm not going to stop working with Nas to say, hey, let's get the business in order. What if he was trying to get Nas to work with his father? And Niles wasn't jacking that like Nile. Was Big Hit on any of those? I think I heard Nause and Big Hit on some. They've definitely mad photos. Game and Big Hit have a whole album together.

Yeah, for sure. But there's a lot of photos of Big Hiz to like do more shit with hit. But I don't think that would sever anything. But I could also do that. just seeing it be a problem as well of purposely not talking about business until hit got his shit together like don't even register none of this shit from me because I don't want it to be registered to the publishing company that's fucking everything up for me right now which I know plenty of artists that's like let's register this in in a year right right and then maybe once he got

a clear and Nas was like bro this is what it is that that's where I think but also we've talked about this plenty of times I've had groups of friends that once something we was working on was done. We don't really have, we was friends during that time. Like, it was genuine. That was my friend. But we don't really have much in common. And once that thing is over, I don't really have much to hit you about every day.

Not like on some fake shit. It's just we no longer, that part is done. You ever had a job before? Yeah. What you did? For real. I worked in the hospital. You still in contact with the hospital?

No But that's different though Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? They paid your bills Yeah, but they paid your bills We didn't make you Yeah, but we didn't make I didn't make history with them, niggins

You saved lives though Yeah, they fed me but I ain't make history With them, these niggas made history together He got Nause his first Grammy Zip, you're gonna talk to us? Huh? If we all stopped working together You gonna still talk to? Yeah, I fucks with niggas. Yeah, but this nigga, he got

his first, Nah's first Grammy came from a hit boy produced. But what that mean I gotta call you every day? I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying to say we haven't spoken in three years. That's the part that's surprising. That wasn't the part of the surprise me.

He said, no answer, right? He said, Will probably never work again. We ain't spoken three years means nothing to me. He said, no answer to me. Nah,

if I get you your first. We'll never work again is what meant the most to me. If we produced, if I produced six albums with you, and one of those albums would get you, you're already a legacy act. legend in every sense of the word. And one of those albums I produce

you get you your first Grammy. I'm not, we don't got to speak every day. We ain't attached to that. I'm not saying that. We're supposed to, every January 26th when the Grammys comes around.

One of us is supposed to, I don't know. Shit is gay, all. You want some, that's some gay shit. How? We're supposed to be talking

because we made an album and got a Grammy. We made his shit is over. We ain't making no more. But I can guarantee you that thousands of artists that haven't spoken in 20 years. Right.

50 years. Right. To who? To the person they had a Grammy with. How long Laura Hill and what's the name ain't speak to? Well, no. Why? They, I mean, they're doing it. It's hard now. But they didn't speak for fucking because they need to do business together now. And to me, that's whatever. We did great work together, but I don't see us working again. There's a lot of reasons. You know what I mean? But it's something I don't really want to dig too deep in because it gets pretty deep. That's the important part. We ain't spoken three years

means nothing to me. That last part is what means the most. You think Nas stingy? No, I think Nas is a businessman, and some people can probably take that as stingy. Most businessmen are stingy. That's why they're so successful. It's the same thing when people was killing Jay,

and I said, I'm not here to defend Jay. Business is business. He's bidding for a casino. You don't think it's going to be dirty business going on? They say it takes a certain level of ruthlessness to get rich. Not to get rich, but to a certain level. level, yeah, probably. And then it takes even more ruthlessness to stay rich.

Yes. To get rich, no. To stay rich, I can I mean, not what we consider rich. I'm saying like, like you own the color blue rich, like those people. Yeah, you've got to be stingy as fuck. And I'm not saying Naz is there. I want to make it clear. I'm not saying Nas and I don't know these people.

But that's just my guess that there was some type of contract dispute. And Nas could have every right of What are you saying? A hit boy could feel. It's definitely contractual. I've been in situations like that too where everyone thinks they're right. It's definitely contractual.

It's definitely that. It's definitely something with the business of the albums, without a doubt. He said it's a lot of reasons, though. Yeah, because it gets pretty deep. He said it's a lot of reasons. So it can't just be the contract. The contract is a lot of reasons? Yeah.

That's one reason. Yeah, but I could also see that when it comes to money and that. That shit gets pretty deep to me because I know hit boy has his child's in studio all the time. Now you take, now you're taking money on my kid's mouth. Like that gets deep to me. Co-Hillhead boy, man. We don't know. All is speculating.

Just call this, nigga. What Nause did? Is you going to make me be the one, hey, you're live on a podcast. We can either keep it or take it out, depending on what Nause did. Depending on what Nause did. All right, here's my thing more. And this is, you guys can add me on the internet to that you're not a journalist to find things person. it's something I don't really want to dig too deep into.

I'm not about to call him and try to dig deep into it. Yeah, he said he don't want to get into it. I'm not about to call somebody that I consider a friend associate and be like, yo, let's dig into it on the microphone. Pause. Yeah, all right. I'm a terrible podcast. No, I think that that's very fair.

I'm a terrible podcast. I'm not about to, he says, I'm going to take my man's words for it. And I consider it boy, my man's. It's something I don't really want to dig too deep into. But he might not have wanted to talk about that shit with Elliot and No, he brought it back up when they started talking about themselves. All right, just call him. I want to ask him, should we stop.

You call him. You got his number two. Should we stop listening to Nas? No. Like, is it something like, we should be like, yo, we shouldn't fuck with Nas no more. Like, did he bad like that? He would have, come on. I just want to know.

He ain't got to say what it was. He was like, yeah, nah, he did me dirty. If he said he did him dirty, all right, we're not listening to the Nas no one. He ain't got to tell me what it was. But if he said, yo, he did me dirty. I can't listen to Nause no more No, I shouldn't be doing Hit Boy dirty

Hey boy's a good dude It's mad names that the whole music industry is people getting done dirty If that's the case you got to delete half your motherfucking catalog on your Apple music Right If it comes to contract disputes Industry rule number 4,080

Record company people are shady Right That's the way I would have wrapped it Yeah But I'm glad you added people in there record company people are shady yeah i get it i mean they had six albums together like that's that's a cool chapter that's also something i can see hit boy in in years listen man he's being like yo we had a great run it ended a great man listen terribly we sit here hit boy gave naz some of his best music

we it was a thing for years that nass nash beach is terrible i would i wouldn't came from? Vlad? Vlad really made that up? No, no. That was always a thing. Vlad just wears that like a badge of honor for some reason. That shit is cap. I've always felt his cap, but but there wasn't as bad as people. Two Vlad's credit, he didn't come up with,

like that was always a thing. That was always a thing. To the point, Naz's beats weren't always that terrible. But those hit boy beats was a lot better than a lot of beats Nause ever rapped on. I feel like, I feel like, after maybe like his sixth album, maybe his beats wasn't.

But even then, he still was like, he still had fire beats because he was getting Polo Deep, Polo the Dawn beats and all kinds of shit. But Zip, that Hero record, I love Knows' Hero. I love it. You and I may be like the few people.

That beat? That beat is, but I love Polo de Dawn. You don't like that beat? I love that beat. That drums, that whole, Terry Hilsen went nuts on that shit, but that was like, the ice lay on me so classy.

People said, like, this is why Nause can't pick beats. I'm like, this is great. Y'all are bugging. Hero. Right. Yo, Kerry was crazy on that. But I'm saying,

that was one of his better beats. Illmatic. There's no whack beats on Elmatic, bro. It created the, it split from the producer, DJ and MC thing to we could just work with any producer we want. It created the simple producer. Then, then it was written.

There's no whack beats on it was written, bro. Some could make a case better beast and Elmatic. Only the only one I don't really like is the Nazis coming. Nasty, nazi, nazi. That's the only beat. I really don't like it. It's a lot going on. Yeah.

It's a lot of shit going on in the beat. I have had some questionable shit. Nostradamus, I don't think this is bad. I am questionable beats? I don't mind. I think Dan Greas went crazy on that. I know, I like I am. But there was something that we're out of Nause.

I don't think people expected Nause to rap on that type of stuff. Notre Dameus, I don't think it's as bad as people claim it is. A beach on that album. Lost tape beats is crazy to me. Is they shooting and all of that? Lost tape. Purple is one of the fucking best beats I've ever heard. Whoever said Niz got white beats is whack.

Whoever said that is whack. Now's got a classic beat. Yeah, I've never subscribed to that idea that Nas picks bad beats. I just don't think he picks them the Koogee rap pick bad beats. If Kooji rap picked better beats, he would be,

they would consider him the nicest little old time, bro. But even cool. No, he picked trash beats back then. But he was coming off the time that it was this like, oh God, how do I word this correctly? Without getting killed. For the more simple drum pattern stuff

because, I mean, I think I think that time of the producers there, Marley Moore, I think they're the reason they get sampled every day. They were a bit simpler. Cool G-Rap was coming from that era and was picking complex beats. But he was taking the whack-as-Molly-Mole beats

in Polish, because I'm saying, like, King didn't have whack beats. No, he didn't. Rock Kim didn't have whack beats. Carri-R-R-S-1 beats wasn't whack like that. Bismog beats wasn't whack like that. G-Rap was the only one picking whack beats. He probably got like three fire

beats. But he was good. Yeah. From back then? He was moving into the era that ended up being the Knows Road to the Richards was fire. He don't really got good beats, bro. I have to go back. I don't think, I don't remember having bad beats though. Go back and listen to the shit. Trash. Horrible.

Well, either way, man, this was surprising news, definitely. But, you know, he said he doesn't see them working together again and maybe you know maybe nass might reach out and make things right and maybe they do a sit down like chanson vick maybe they do a sit down like vick minza and chancin chancid and rapper mall you know me and damaris we were outside we were in the arena we're at the top floor my beard hit all the elements this weekend yeah every element lights hitting you inside outside it was still shimmering with the

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or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you guys feel about what Chance actually said as far as him being, him admitting to being jealous? We're not jealous, but, you know. Chance wasn't jealous. Chance admitting to being selfish and not wanting to share his stage with. with Vic. Vic said he was jealous.

Okay, but Chance came out and said, I didn't want to do it because I didn't want to share the stage with you. He wanted something for himself. And I think they, since children, I think they were in the same

fucking music program in Chicago, wanted to be by himself on something. Like, one, he made a good point of like, I feel like Vic and I are peers, so I don't want him opening for me, which I think is a noble thing to do as well. I'm not about to do that to my man.

But he admitted that that was bullshit. He literally said, I'm, I know, let me finish. That's what he started with. But he was also like, I didn't want to share that because he really felt that they were peers. They would have shared that. That Vic and Chance thing was a big moment with acid rap and Vic coming out. Pardon me for forgetting that first project. Take my hip hop card.

Yeah, I can see Chance too being young and being like, duh, I kind of just want to do something by myself. I don't want to be attached to this. There's nothing wrong with that Yeah, we ain't no group I understand it We're friends and all that I mean I get where you know Both sides

I can see where you would take your man with you And I can see where you won't take them Like yo we Everything they think about me They think about you so this right here I'm going to do this on my own time I mean also it could be cool To just build that shit together

There is I wouldn't Selfish is not the right word But I can see Trying to get away from that shadow of your friend. But at the same time, if I know my friend is fucked up, I'm gonna bring an opener on the road of somebody don't even know.

We could build some shit together here. You, my man's, I've known you forever. I know you fucked up, but I know you need the money. I'm gonna just grab some random person. So they fell out over that? They have fell out over that. I think that was the start of many more things.

But then, yeah, I mean, that was the start of it. I understand it. I get it. I just, you know, things happen. I get both sides. I get both sides. You're my man. You about to go on tour.

You ain't taking me? I don't get both sides. Which side you don't get? I don't. Okay, how can I? I can understand. But I think that that comes from a fear of being outshone on your own tour. That's what I think.

Me personally. I think they shared a lot of the same fan base at that point, but let's not act like Chance was not a little bit bigger. In their bubble, they were peers. He was. But Chance was a significantly bigger. I think right after that, I mean, it may not have been right at the acid rap tour, but then Chance got the feature on the Bieber record. Like, Chance was starting to be...

Chance was on his way out of here, for sure. I don't think that takes away from... That doesn't negate what I said. We'll expound more. You don't have been out with two pretty girls, and one might be significantly prettier than the other one, and it's not going to stop her from being jealous if you pay one more attention. It doesn't matter what the public perceives other people's talent to be.

When you deep down inside might look and be, I think I might get a little bit too much shine for my tour. And I'm not saying that Chance was doing that in a hater way. Chance seems like a very sweet person. It could just be just like an underlying like I don't. It could be an underlying insecurity. It could be. And I think that if it wasn't coming from that, he wouldn't have apologized.

I think there was a little bit of a selfishness to it. You're thinking that he thought, all right, this won't be the chance to rapper tour. It'll be the chance in Victor. Yes. Which I get to. And from a business standpoint as well, like, now I got to stand on my own right now. Like it's got to be the chance. What business standpoint, it doesn't hurt him in it.

I have to make my brand for me. You can make your brand for you, but it doesn't, it's not going to take anything away from you. You're not going to lose fans. But I think that's what Chance was speaking to. Like, he realizes that now. Yeah. Like, you're not going to lose fans. If anything, you gain.

In the moment, in the moment, he felt that way. Like, he might lose something or he kind of want to stand on his own. And then now he's looking at it like, nah, but you're my brother. We definitely, I should have had you on that tour. Yeah. I mean, you, you mature. you get older, you grow, you learn. You know, I respect that.

The fact that they both sat down and spoke about those things is honorable. I like that. That's content that is worth watching. I think that happens a lot more than people would like to admit. What? People not knocking their friends down a peg. I don't want to put it like that, but not giving them the opportunity to climb more. First of all, that's why I sit on here all the time and salute little wing.

Now, him, Drake and Nikki, aren't the best of friends. They didn't grow up together. But when you recognize somebody's talent and you already lit, niggas don't just step out the way and fall back into the shadows and let shosh. That does, that's not a normal thing.

People do not do that. And that's why Little Wayne is to be celebrated and saluted for doing that. Because he could have eased the, all of them records he was in Drake play in the studio. Give me that. Wayne could ease him like, yo, I need that.

I got a verse for that. We need that on this album. We're about to make Drake Nate dog. Yeah. Need that, need that on this album. What? That's how that- He could have made them Nate, though. That's how that shit goes in the industry.

When you lit like that, you don't just step out the way and you got somebody signed to you, get your shit off. Go ahead, you eat. Nah, not in this game. So when Little Wayne did that, and then obviously Drake and Nicky went on to become who they are, you got a salute Little Wayne. Every opportunity you get for doing that

because that does not happen in the industry. Friends are not. Obviously, they are friends. Drake, Nicky and Wayne wasn't nowhere near as close as Chance and Vic. A-Con got out the way on some niggins too. Yeah. T-Pain lady, he got out their way. Yeah.

Because he was lit. This is what I'm saying? That's not a normal thing. It don't happen. Like, you just don't, you know, you got to salute that because. Rayquan. Rayquan is a huge example of that. I mean, Ghost was ghosts coming off 36 chambers, but only built for Cuban links was

Rayquan's featuring Ghost face. He gave him half his advantage. events. He featured him on the night on your head. And then that was, they was all waiting in line for a solo project.

And then wasn't beefing about like you're not doing it back. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Bird the mother. People need to be more like that.

But a lot of people don't know they're being insecure in the moment. Like self-awareness is very hard to come by. A lot of people don't know why they're doing the things that they're doing or they're reacting the way that they're reacting

because their brain will come up with like a logical explanation in the moment. moment. But in reality, it's like, no, this is stemming from an insecurity, but if you don't know yourself, you won't know that. There is another side. Do they got the same girlfriends from back then? Both of them dudes? Do they both have the same girl from? Chance and his wife divorced. That divorce. Yeah, I don't know, like, Vicks dating history. Bet you they won't say how much them

broads had to do with that. I doubt. I doubt. I wouldn't put that on him. I think that that's more women don't, women are more like, nah, put your man's on. Like, that's more men's shit. You don't need that, because once she's going to go with what you say. Like, like, Y'all don't think I need that nigga. I want to do this shit. Yeah, fuck that nigga. Y'all that be it. Or, that's all you need, right, baby?

Or go the other way. You sit down, laying down with a chick. She's like, yo, that nigga jealous of you. Yeah, just out of nowhere. When she, when a woman plant that scene? Yeah, he's jealous. Drop that on you. Now you start looking at your man.

Everyone's like, this man. But women know this shit like that too, though. No, no. I'm not saying y'all don't. I'm not saying women don't. Plenty women have put me on to that. Because, like I said, sometimes I'll be oblivious. I'm thinking, it's my man.

I said a told chance that about Vick. Like, yo, he's jealous of you. This is what I'm saying. That's why I ain't taking that nigga with me on that at all. Not saying, right. Not saying that that's what happened. I'm saying. Just speculate that, you know,

maybe there was some female friends around that may have dropped the scene in. The girls been around the same time too. They always around. Because we're friends. Niggas is taking accountability for what they do. And somehow y'all found a way to make a women's fault. I love it. No, no, no.

I'm not saying. It's always women's fault. I'm not making the women's fault. But a lot of men do fault their fallouts, somewhere in there. we can do our professor X shit and go into the cerebrum shit and just look around the whole shit it's going to be a woman somewhere in there

yeah but sometimes baby you don't act like pussy and kill more niggas than everything except for religion right pussy don't kill anything y'all unable being unable to control your ego and you own women is what kills people women didn't do anything they just exist y'all's egos be killing each other

empires have fallen because of the twat and y'all's ego that I'll have nothing doing nothing I know Game of Thrones has taught me that niggas just want to fight and bitches want to be in power right let's get to that the niggas ain't give a fuck about no throne

not near a nigga in the show I remember gave a fuck about this every broad De Nairis Sercy this presuppter Renearus Every every Nairis Every bitch with a Nairis

DeMaris There's a Dineris in that show And no one has ever told me that Yeah her name is DeNaris It's like my name There's a Dineris Oh my God Would it end

Would it not air Yeah that's DeMaris The marriage, yeah. It's the marriage cousin back there. They're the mother. The bitches want to be queen. All of them. Yeah.

Every single one. One power. Like, Stanz and she want to be the leader in the north. Like, every bitch want to be in power. But the niggas just want to fight, man. The niggas want to swing swords and axes and shit like that. Yeah.

Boys be boys. They don't care about the right. I'm right. Keep it real. Yeah. Keep it real. The men want to be in power too. No, they don't give a fuck.

Yes, they do. Them niggas bad niggies. I don't know. I wish I never had this shit. all of them things. I don't want this shit. That's once they get it. That's once they get it. They don't want. Ain't a near lady say that on the show.

Not a near lady says she don't want that. I denounce this crowd. Yeah, fuck out. I didn't announce this crowd. I've never heard a wound in my life say that. You know, the lady blew up the church. Yeah. The big church.

What? She blew up the church because they were punishing her. You're going to take me to jail? Yeah. They had my bitch and jail. That was a feed in her. they walked her through the streets naked. They was throwing shit at her.

That's her fault. It is her fault. It is her fault. But so, but because of that, she loved the church. Put that nigga in power thought she was doing some slick. Put that nigga in power. Yeah. Nigger violated her. Y'all is it.

I love that since. I watch this every day. I got to watch it. All the ladies wanted to be in power, man. Can you show me what DeNaris look like? Yeah, I'll show you. De Nair. What's De Nera's backstory?

She's, she's. the queen. We can't tell you because we don't want to ruin the show, but she... It doesn't even matter. She's supposed to be the leader of the free world. Oh, I've seen her, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's spending like memes or shit.

Yeah, tough. Targary. Yeah, she definitely, she's definitely bringing down a bunch of empires. She was thirsty to be the queen. That milky white skin. It belonged to her. It did. Okay, well, let's have a hard.

That milky white skin. That alabaster. That milky white. That milky milky white. Once my got your ball of the fucking. about it, you're done. You have no right to this. Well, they didn't, but no, because they didn't get the father out of there

the right war, technically the legal way. Like, he was murdered illegally, so the throne still belongs to her. And milky, white skin. That's what you like. Long golden hair. That's so type. John Snow was the head to the throne. Yeah, I know. Stop.

What if niggas ain't see, is it? If a nigga ain't seen that shit, that's 15 years old, a nigga ain't seen that shit. That's on them. I only didn't watch the last season and a half of that shit. Yeah. I was the only like, I didn't see the last season. You pulled the bins for that.

Everybody. Playing myself. Well, shout to DeNaris and Demaris. Shout out to Big D. And nothing to do with Chance and Vic at all, but what happens if you are about to going tour and you manage your peer, but you know your man is not going to perform? Up to a certain level? Yeah.

Like what about what about, what about that? That thought that no one else would know except for me in my man's life. Like, you about to fuck this tour up. Well, then you have a conversation. Well, yeah, that's how you fix it. Because the whole world could look like, yo, why you didn't put your man on? My man does nothing but fucking smoke and sleep.

Well, then more people need to be honest with their fucking friends. So that he can be honest with your friend and he's not going to get out of bed. Yeah, you're not going to get out of bed. You tell you, you tell your home girl, you're about to go on tour, Baby Dee. The Baby Dee tour. And your home girl wants you, she want to open up for you. Deneris and DeMaris. Yeah, she want to open up for you.

You're like, yo, I ain't going to lie. Tocke. You're not ready, though. Mm-hmm. How you think that conversation is going to go? Tasha, I'm like, yo, you right. I see what you're saying. No, she can get upset.

But I'm not going to pretend. Because guess what? But now the whole world looking at you, like, you didn't put your home girl on. She's just as talented from what they see. Y'all got the same mixtape, the same fire. But you putting in work, you putting the whole show together. You're doing rehearsals. You there.

Like, and this, yo, I just want to get a mic. Just give me a mic. And I'll go out there. no you're about to not fuck up my tour The whole world can hate me on that If I know that I did right and I ain't do bad I'm cool with that No to me that's your people doing you wrong

Yeah no you should come out and be honest If I brought you on my tour and you don't even want to show up and perform And now you're fucking up my shit That's disrespect to me What I'm saying is if I know as the person who chose Not to put them on tour No matter what the world is saying why she's not on tour I know that I didn't do bad

I don't care what the world is saying I don't give a fuck with all And I'm not saying that was a chance in Vic thing but I do think that's also something when people Just with jobs, period. People become celebrities overnight. They friends from the hood want a job. Why I'm not your manager?

Why I'm not this? Why I'm not in charge your hair and makeup? Because I've watched you your whole life every time we go somewhere, you late. No, you can't. That's what ruined hip hop. Mm-hmm. Yes, man.

Yes, man. Niggas getting label deals and hiring their men to be head of A&R and all this and president of this. ain't no mean he need to be on payroll. But that's where it sucks because you should also take that risk because we've got some of the greatest execs that would have never gotten a shot got a shot because of that. Yeah, some of the greatest execs started off as interns and learned the business as well.

No, for sure. That's just such a crapshoot because I agree with you. Like I've seen labels and joint ventures fail because they put their friends on. And it should be somebody that knows what they're doing there. But we've gotten, you don't get an Irv Gotti unless that happens. Like, those opportunities should still be. given. I'm not saying they shouldn't be given, but like, somebody like Irv, again, came up young, was in it, was around it, you know what I mean? Like, some of these dudes, they get a label

deal tomorrow and then they man that never did nothing in music, never interned nowhere, don't know nothing, he's the head of A&R. You're not, let him pick beats. What? He liked my shit, so he has to understand the world. It's just like, come on, you get a whole bunch of bullshit in the ecosystem because of that, like, Yeah, but I... They don't do that in country music. Fair, but then, like, also you see Rihanna talk about how much Tata did for her career. Like, at the end of the day, if you want to put it on paper, Tata was Jay's man since childhood.

But then developed one of the biggest pop stars we've ever seen. Right, but sitting next, standing next to J all those years. Yeah, but he might be, yeah, that's what I'm saying he got curated. Jay would say standing next to Tata all those years helped him. Yeah, one and the same. Yeah, both hands, one of him, watched the other. But everybody ain't Taitai. And we need to be okay with that.

And I agree. I'm just saying you could leave out somebody like a Tata if you have the mentality that you shouldn't put any of your people on because they don't know what they're doing. Sometimes those are the greatest ears. Sometimes are the greatest people. But Tata wasn't put on from day one. No, of course.

Yeah, learn the game. Yeah, learn the game. They just like, okay. And it's like, yo, nigga, you around this shit all the time. You know how to do this shit. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's where it's okay.

Even if you hear a goo, everyone just, everyone just, You know, it was always just Jay and Tata was in the studio, like a studio. Listening, learning, just watching, you know, like, okay, like, yeah. And then obviously, like, yo, you know what a hit record is by now. You could hear it. Like, you know when it's like, okay, this checks all the boxes. This is a hit. Like, okay, let's go.

Let's go curate a new star. Yeah. And walks Rihanna. We can work with this. Let's give it a tie. I know how we can make this happen. But if you just bring a man off the block that he don't even know. He don't know nothing.

And then you're like, yo, fuck it. I got, they gave me a label deal. Fucker. You're going to. Yes, there needs, the way there needs to be more artist development, pause, there needs to be more your man's development. Yeah. Like, you need to develop your man.

Your man's development. Develop your man. And I feel like it takes like a, it, you need to be able to recognize your friend's traits and recognize what they're good at and why they're good at it. So you can even know what they need to develop. Like, do you have a friend that's more organized or do you have a friend that's more creative? If you have a friend that's more creative

and you know that this person is like they could just come up with the coolest concepts or all of this stuff, I wouldn't go and put them in charge or running a schedule because they're not going to be, they might not specialize in that. They're going to have everybody late. You got to put people where they could, they strength. Where they're strength, but a lot of people don't know people's strength.

That takes a certain person to identify that. But to the chance in Vic thing, it is dope that they, again, squash their differences and put everything in the past and now. back in a healthiest space with each other, even though I think crying on camera is crazy.

That's just me. This is me, I'm sorry. I think crying on camera's fine. I think filming yourself crying is insane. That's all. You know that's Vic's show, right? No, man, he picks the orange and he says shit, I agree with. I agree with Vic.

I fuck with Vic. Even though I'm not the biggest Vic, like music fan. I do fuck with him. I like his music, but I like him. I like his personality. He seems like a good dude. No, for sure. And chances our guy.

You know that. We fuck with him. So that's rap map of last year. That's what I have voicemails. I don't particularly care to get in this VMA shit. I'll be honest with you. We can do it on Patreon because we can actually play the videos. Okay.

Yeah. No voicemails. We can go to, yeah. All right, well, a little teaser for the VMA stuff. Just give Meg every award where she's shaking her ass. I'm with that. I'm fine with that. What category is that?

It will be Probably best hip hop video Oh best hip hop video Videos videos ever Okay Ever is crazy I don't like that Meg Try to tease us with the act three shit

And it's been like a week I've yet to see Oh how dare she go rollout I've yet to see I need more videos How dare she do a rollout I'm a visual learner All right well new music

Coming out tonight Who we got You're gonna So fat ju Fat Jew fat Joe Shout out to Fat Jew Fat Joe Fat Joe has an album coming out called...

Legendary influencer. Called organized crime. Organized rhyme. I'm sorry. Organized rhyme. I saw that he had a push-a-tie snippet that he was playing today. Did you like it? Yeah, sounded good. Push has like mastered Biggs flow.

And I mean that in a good way. Like not biting. But yeah, push is great at that. Don't even... See? Don't even start. I hope to... God that this doesn't make sense. I hope no one goes

back to this clip and goes oh, I'm all new. I hope to God. Oh, I know I hope to God. Never mind. That this clip right now makes no sense to anybody. Never mind. Rall Wave has a new album coming out called Don't Look Down. More suicidal music for your head top. You know who got that kind of music?

Who? The kid from Brooklyn. Kind of heavyset. He's not. Kyle Some Kyle Kyle Kyle

I wouldn't call him Heavy my chair You know what I'm talking He never song He just did a song

Surf Was who surf Yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah yeah It makes It make you

What it Crash Are you okay That's what it makes I I'm trying to right

around my friends Welcome home Surf And I hope surf battles Man Serf nice

bro He might. Oh, go ahead. Well, I understand. I know you don't pay attention to battle rap, but end of the episode we talk about it.

I understand surf wants 200 grand, but it's time to battle, bro. 200,000 for a battle? I believe that's what he said. He's making a lot of money with show.

Fuck out of here, nigga. He loves surf too much. I want to see Surf and Mook battle. I think Serf and Mook could easily make over 200 grand if they plan that battle properly. Surf and Mook battle?

Yeah. They each making Way over $200,000. I believe that. That is, yeah. I heard that money ain't there like that no more on that shit. It's not. You pay all that shit.

Propp. Mook and Surf? No, I'm, yes. And their tickets on top, hard tickets. But I'm, to the real, I don't think surf can fuck with Moog, though. In the battle. The only reason why I don't think surf could fuck with Moog, not because of Serf's pen is Moog's performance. Moog, like, it's theater.

I mean that in a good way. Because I didn't go, I was listening. I watched him a head man, right? And I was, like, this shit was like kind of closer than that. But then I watched it again. I was like, this shit is not even close at all. This nigga Moog is wildly. Mook hit man.

Yeah, no, Mook is that his Mook strength is, I'm going to be honest. I don't think I've ever seen Mook, like, fumble, like a rind. He don't be stuttering. He knows. Not that I can remember. He knows rhymes. You could have a personal opinion on your favorite. There's not a better performer than Mook, in my opinion.

Oh, Lux and, I mean, Tay Rock. Tay Rock. But a lot of people even got the whole performance style from Mook. Not Lux, but.

Yeah, Lux is Lux to me. But Moog is kind of, shit. Serious and Mook Everyone kind of took their performance style. Lux and Moog to me are the two guys.

Rex is another one. Love Rex. I've never seen Rex fumble around. Not that I can remember him. Third round against T-Rex? Yeah. I like some.

Yeah. Rex is, Rex. wrecks be going crazy. But, um, surf and mook, that's definitely a big,

a big card. That definitely one of the bigger cards in the last, however many million. Salute to serve, but I don't understand why he don't think he could get $200 grand

from a MOOC battle. You get half a million dollars from a moot battle. Surf doesn't think he can get that? Well, he was saying that he's, he's getting booked for shows and like everything.

And yeah, that's the price. He's not battling because he's scared. He's battling, which I also, I know the battle Arab world's like, oh, he must be scared.

Nah, they're still businessmen at the end of the day. But yeah, you got to have a certain price. No, listen, I respect it. Your price is your price. I get that, but. But then your price is your price until nobody gives you. That price is you saying, I know you could get. Yeah.

That's my whole thing. Erica Badu and the Alchemist before the world blows out. I'm available now. Young Miami's spending that remix featuring Little Baby and Kodak Black. So they got her ass about this. Why? We guessed Kodak. We did guess Kodak.

We cared both of them. I think we did guess Little Baby too. Can we say a little? I know we said Blueface. I know y'all said he would be interested on that. But he definitely said Little Baby and Kodak. I don't remember a little baby, Blake. Kodak.

Sure. How do y'all feel about this? But they mad at her about that? Why? They said that there were better features that she could have potentially picked. Some people even said it should have been a woman's posse cut. I don't particularly agree with that. I'm good on like if she would have did one more woman and then

a male rapper, I'd have been fine, but yeah. No, I think he's complaining about every fucking thing. Yeah. Because like little baby. Everybody wants, everybody wants to be in A&R these days. Like she, they want to her to get Cardi and sexy red? Huh?

They want to. Plas and Trina? Plas and Trina. My, my only critique on this is too late. Please, you made that up just now? That was like. That's when you put out like the teaser. It was like, Trina's like logo on the government.

respectfully, I don't want to hit Trina all plows on nothing ever again. Really? I'd be fine. I fuck up, pals. What? And Trina would be great on that. I'm good on that. I would have loved Trina on Spinnett.

I ain't going to lie. You don't think it's too late? That's my only critique. It makes sense. It makes sense of Miami, like, for Trina to be on that, that makes sense. Yeah. Trina Young Miami, that makes sense. That would be dope.

But when people were writing that online, I thought that that was stupid. Why do you think that, well, I'm not calling you a take stupid, but why would you think that it's too late? Because I think even if this is played outside, they're going to play the hook in her part. I don't know. Like, unless Little Baby and Kodak have like monumental verses, spend that is a, it's a record.

It's done the time, not the time has passed. The record is the record of the summer. But yeah, you should have done a remix fucking four weeks ago. Too many people got their own remakes. It's like, it's kind of, that moment has passed to reju-june. It's already what it is. But would have been interesting.

She's going to change the whole beat type shit? Yeah, like that would be dope. Or some remix shit like back in the day? That would be the only way. But the beat makes the song. So. Not necessarily.

Unless it has like a fire ass break. Like you do a fire ass beat switch in little baby. And no, that helps with a DJ to keep playing that record outside. What would have been interesting is JT on the verse. I mean, yeah, sure. The city girls would have been interesting,

but that ain't going to happen. They beefing like, they don't know them from it to them? They're doing their own things. They ain't really fucking with each other right there. I don't know that. I thought they was cool. Their chance and dick.

So one of them got a crowd camera. She should have put the Prish Ricky nigger on there that got locked up for scamming. Instead of Kodak. Not for nothing, though. Pleasure P would be all right. And they didn't take like 20-something million? It wasn't a lot of that. No, I know he wasn't the one that got locked up, but I'm saying.

He's scamming like the Nigerians. I don't know what he'd do. What's he's saying? He dressed like him too. Yeah, he'd be wow. You be seeing his fits They got the The fur

The whole back was leather You see the shoes and all that Yeah They match They match Whatever the coat is The shoes match All the way

And posting the Lamborghini Is the funniest thing Or huh If you stealing money And posting the Lamborghini Is the funniest He was supposed to be on that song Bro

He's a scamming ass nigga Spinn that shit What the fuck? Spin that shit Spinn that He's supposed to say that Let him say that bar Right

Taxpayer money. That would have been good. I think that would have been good. Oh, yeah. I'm with you. Buster Rhyms, J. Diller, diligence, too. Yeah. Out now.

I'm looking forward to that. Majid Jordan, two roads album. Yeah. No, I feel about Majid Jordan, Rory. And it's raining right now. I hope it rains through the weekend. I might put Amar on the car seat. September's right around the corner.

It just drive to Majid in the rain. September's right around the corner. Fall. You can smell fall. You can't feel by Majid. I saw three leaves on the ground this morning. So it's just happening. We're in need of a legit project for sure.

Yeah. Rob 49 and Sexy Red in the club is a song that's coming out. I'm excited about that. I love Rob 49. That's like Rob 49. I was thinking last night I was like, damn, like music missing. Take Heath already. Yeah.

A lot of those artists, they don't miss that box. The next three, four years, you really going to be able to see, like, the difference. Unless somebody comes and finds a way to be a copycat. Well, stability AI. Is that the name of the app? The technology, stability AI. I'm sure they'll plug that in and try to tap into some of Tay Keith's greatness at some point. Well, I'm sure the way Tay Keith made beats that there's hard drives of like thousands of joints.

Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. And I'm curious what in this state, I wouldn't even, like, even if that was my best friend or the head of his estate, I wouldn't even know what to do. because like who would know if he would want that person on this record like how do you can go about that but i would love to hear more takey shit that has just sitting in his computer oh for sure major labels are invested in stability AI which trains AI to create based off of their catalogs it's been a 76 million dollar funding round so AI UMG Warner Sony are all invested do with that information which you feel as best but we do not support AI in the arts.

They over here. But it is what it is. All right, we'll talk to y'all soon. We're about to have the Patreon. Me to Steele. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Netflix's it. Let's get to that.

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