New Rory & MAL - Episode 54 | "House Husbands"

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

Happy Friday! The guys start off by trying something new and actually introducing themselves to their audience. They address depression, Menace 2 Society's storyline, and older men creeping on high school girls... all in the first 10 minutes. They get into a philosophical conversation regarding truth in regards to hating, then Rory recaps his livestream from Patreon, and lets the listeners know what's to come. He then addresses the trauma he experienced from working at an advertising firm, and lets Mal know the best kept secret of gay bars. This segues into Mal letting us know how he would meet women if he got rid of the internet, and Rory explains his plan to become a House Husband of LA. Later on, Mal explains his ideal charity, they discuss new and upcoming releases, debate more TV shows + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You was at the creek? The creek. Wasn't at the creek? The do ranch. How did you get to the dude ranch? The rocking horse dune ranch. I keep telling you that was a very intricate part of my upbringing, man. Had I not going to the dude ranch every year, man,

I would have been a different type of demon out here. I would have been a super gremlin. Great vibes. Huh? Roar, you don't know nothing about this. Stop stealing your dad's playlist. First of all. I know your dad popped a cold course to this a few times.

A cold course. And don't do that. This was my whole style. I couldn't have sex in a. in my mom's crib, but I had to go outside to the park. That's a fact. Different type of animal if you had to learn how to fuck outside. The funny shit is they were still about playing basketball on this record.

I mean, were they? Yeah, man. Doing it after dark. You know you play ball until the sun goes down. I guess. Rock Creek Park, they didn't have lights on the court? Oh, man, I did some nasty things in Mount Morris Park in Harlem. Jesus Christ.

You're gross. I'll probably have a warrant out for my wrist. Eddend, what's the park across from Cardinal Hayes? Ah, shit. The park you don't want to be in, after dark. Well, that's definitely that. Definitely got some things wet in that park. Cardinal Hayes, home with Jamal Mashburn, the legend, Bronx legend.

And Edon. And Edon. And Edon. Is Jamal Mashburn then Edith? Jim went to Cardinna Hayes? Yeah. Oh, shit. I never knew that.

It's. And Regis Filman. Oh, yes. Shards of Regis Filman. Oh, it's a few. It's Fran Siegel Park. Fran Siegel. Oh yeah.

I was getting nasty in Fran Siegel. Gross. Yeah, what was you going up there, man? Because my best friend lived in Concourse Village. I was damn near Concourse Village every day. I lived there for a little. Concourse Village, wow. 800, remember 800 grand Concourse?

I was in 790. That was one of my favorite buildings. Yeah, I was in 790. That's still a really nice building. I love Concourse Village. It's great. Great community. Just make sure you park back.

Closer to the courthouse. Yeah. Where you're safe at. It's a very dark area in some parts. Very dangerous. People listen to have no idea where or what the fuck we're talking about. Great movie theater too. Yeah, no.

I mean, depend it all if you want to be a part of the movie. If you want to die. It's all good. But those that don't know if this is your first time listening, this is Rory. No, I'm Rory. Yeah. This is Rory. This is Rory.

This is Rory. I am Rory. And I am emotionally available for people that are emotionally unavailable. Okay. That's who I am. am. Okay, well, that's good. I'm all and I am not available emotionally for anybody at all these days. These days, right? Just these days. Just these days, only these days. As of late. Don't you love the the phrase as of late? As of late? As of late, I'm not emotionally available. So I apologize in advance.

Welcome to another episode of This is Rory and Mall where you'll hear an audio experience unlike any other out there. It's not the name of our show. It's not. This is, this is Rory and Mall is not. the new show. What's the name of our show? It's on your, you can just look down. Oh, new Roryamol. I'm sorry. New Rory Moll.

Welcome to our show. The new ones. This is a new, this is a new Rory Moll. The newest. Someone tweeted me, is D'Maris okay? She has the strong on the surface, but suffering silently internally. Kind of vibe that I can relate to. Yes, Damaris is definitely.

That's why I just refreshed. She's definitely suffering internally. She's been going through a lot, but, you know, she's still here with us and we love her. I mean, sometimes you've got to... Yeah, Demarish, you need to go to the park and do it after dark. Basketball, I mean, just shoot some hoops. Shoot some hoops, you'll be fine.

Get the stress off with some athletics. Anyways, with that said, those were awkward intros. Yo, do you get depressed about women you sleep with... Do you get depressed about women you sleep with protection? Like, I feel like you only get emotionally unstable when you have an umbrosephableness. protected sex with somebody. Do women stress about niggas that they fuck with no condom? I mean, with

a condom. Y'all don't stress about guys that y'all sleep with a condom. It's probably not the right crowd in the room. I cannot remember the last time I used a condo. Okay, well, so. Demaris, do women typically stress out about men that they

sleep with protected? I cannot speak for every woman in the history. Well, you can speak for some. Of course, yeah. When it's a room full of men and you're the only woman you speak for all women yeah i feel like women don't stress out i feel like every woman that is as like stressed out over a guy i feel like it's never the guy that they're having protected sex with well it's a different type of like i don't even think emotionally you can get like that stressed out about somebody you haven't had unprotected sex i don't even think the body

counts to be quite honest because there is something separating you being inside of her but like the love tunnel did like you don't really experience her a love tunnel right it's like you kind of like are you Is a woman stressed over you because we know you would have never had unprotected sex in your life? Is a woman stressing over you? And you're sitting here like, dog, come on. I had the NYC subway condom on. I had the jimmy on extra tight, man. You ain't supposed to be loving me like this.

You know what I'm saying? I ain't even take the bag off yet. Yo, Kane was fucking nuts. Why? Shorty said, I'm pregnant. I only have sex with you. Listen, I had the jimmy on extra tight. Because it's like, stop trying to run this game.

Don't do that. It was his. How do that? How are you throwing that baby on Kane? Like, don't do that. You don't know if he's strapped up. I feel like Arlene, Arlina was being honest and truthful

that she was only having sex with Kane. Nah, man. She was lying out. Alina was a thought. You man enough to take a life, but not raise one. Shut up, Arlina. Go call that.

Don't stop snitching. Go call that dude that who really banged you road. Don't call me. Like, that ain't my baby. Got that man killed like that for no reason. We never got a men's society, too. We were supposed to get that. I don't know what happened with that.

Rest and piece of John Singleton, of course. Got to talk to game. We definitely should have got, was game supposed to be part of men's society too? Did Belly too. And Papoose wrote The Men's Society too. It's a record. Yeah, well, we don't, we want.

From Kane's son point of view. Yeah, but let's get like the people that, like the production team and everybody that was involved in like the real making of the first one. And let's bring them back for like part two. Kane's son all grown up. But like what if Kane's son became like an accountant? What if it has nothing to do with what the first one had to do? Like get out of the hood. Like he was a smart kid in the hood and.

Yeah. And then trying to like step. out of his father's shadow. And like it's a really rough day at the office. It's just a completely different movie. That would be trash. I'm not going to lie. Nobody wants to see that.

Kane's son moved to Kansas, followed in the footsteps of what the other ones were supposed to do. It's crazy. What Sharif was going to do in Kansas? Sharif was going to be all right, man. It's fucked up how Sharif went out, man. He was going to be all right. He was going to do good.

He was going to be the one out of the hood that made it and came back. I could see him coming back. and trying to, like, get people to relocate, get his friend. Because he was trying to do that anyway. I mean, how you know, Sharif didn't have the drop on him. What if Sharpe tipped off Arlene's cousins? They were moving that day from that address. No one gets in his Sharif, man.

And set himself up. Sharif died. Like, why would he do that? He got shot up. I didn't say Arlene's cousin had good aim. I don't think that the plan is to set somebody else up and then you died. He meant to be in the house. It was bad timing.

Yeah, he started taking boxes to the car and stuff like that. Yeah. Sharif one. Look at Jada picking in the middle of black on black crime once again. The cause of it. It didn't even connect the Jada. You know what I'm saying? Look, she was the, look, the cause of it.

Has she not moved to Atlanta? Forcing his ass to Atlanta. Kane lives. Cherief lives. He goes to Kansas and has a great life. It's Jada's fault, man. Jada's the middle of all of this shit, man. And we don't get into how nasty Pinell was.

Oh, my God. How old was Penel? That's what I'm saying. Did we ever figure out how old Pinell really was? The same age is Kane's father around that same age. Yeah, because he was a little younger. Like, he was a little younger than Kaye. And he's fucking around with, what was Jada's character's name?

Uh, what was her name? Uh, what was her name? I forgot to him. Uh, damn, I can hear the dude saying it now. I don't know. I forgot the name of it, but. Yeah, Ponell was nasty as fuck. There's a lot of Pernel's in the hood.

There's a lot of Pernel's in the hood. Oh, for sure. Like, I'm not, we ain't going to get too deep in that because we ain't going to have that type of episode. today, but just think about all the girls that was like your age in high school. And look at the guys that was picking them up from school. Completely normal. Yeah.

This was about 23, 24. And they was bragging about it. Picking up 17-year-olds from school, yeah. And I was always hating with logic. Like, wait, he can't be that ill if he's trying to scoop you up. You're in high school. Right, right. I was wise above my years on creepiness at that time.

Yeah. I'm like, you can't feel dope as a woman, well, a girl that, you're dating an older guy, but you don't think maybe he's a super lame because he has to date a fucking 16 year old at 23 and also a creep on top of that. I've always had a problem with that. Like, I've always noticed things and then like, I'd be feeling like, damn, am I a hater? You know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes you peep shit and you like, that is something wrong with that.

But then you start questioning yourself like, damn, I might be it. I might be hated. Well, the truth can be hate. The truth can be hate. Unfortunately, that's the world we live in now. Now, if you tell the truth, you can be hating. Because sometimes, like, is it your place to even say the truth? Yeah.

Because it's not your business. And then you kind of look like you hate it. Like, why are you bringing it up? The truth doesn't matter to your life. But that's another good thing you just fell on. I did a Patreon live that Mall didn't want to participate in. Bro, listen, I would have. No, yeah, I would have, come on.

You know, I would have did it. How was it? Well, no, you should do next week. I would. I mean, DeMaris was in there on the comments in the last part. But it was fun, man. It was fun to chop it up with them. And Patreon I'm excited for

Because we have a bunch of stuff rolling out now And they'll be a shit ton of content But I'm excited to do this live stuff Every Tuesday I played a lot of my album We talked a bunch of shit We got a got my list together

For the Wayne and Drake battle That we're doing today Like It was cool to interact with them Yeah I don't even like calling them fans Our listeners Our supporters are a very unique group Of people

We say it all the time It's some really dope creative people, nine to five, everyday hardworking people, a bunch of lazy motherfuckers. We got a whole array of people that listen to us and support this show. Much funnier than us, too, I'll say that. Yeah, a lot of them are really, really funny. I was talking to somebody in the DMs a couple days ago. Male or female?

It was a male. Oh, wow. Yeah. Progression for you. Yeah, you know, I don't talk to guys. You know that. I hardly ever talk to guys. But he was really cool. He was saying how he was really happy to see us growing.

and the show taking off and stuff like that. I think he was saying something else in the DMs. You just weren't catching it. Oh. He was flirting. Was he?

You know, I never know if a guy is flirted with me just because I don't really even give it that much attention. Well, I worked in advertising for a while. I won't see the company because what I'm about to accuse them of. I worked in advertising

and advertising has a lot of gay men in it. It's just gay men understand how to advertise shit. They're just better at it. They get it. So it's mostly women and gay men in that business. I now know, before I went in there not knowing when like a man was flirting with me,

because it's just not part of my life at that time. I 100% know now. I could really start a Me Too movement of gay men in the advertising business, sexually harassing straight men in the workplace. I was fucking fresh meat. I walked on to the prison yard in the fucking advertising. The water cooler, that was the yard. You know, they could say anything and all I would do was turn red and giggle.

Like, I didn't know what to say back. Like, you were like, you can't. They thought you were a little doll. Yeah. You probably referred to you. You're such a doll. My mother used to say you're hot stuff when game I like you. Hot stuff.

Hot stuff. I don't ever want to be hot stuff. I was hot stuff. I don't want to be hot stuff. Third floor on the street, I was hot stuff. Oh, that's disgusting. I remember one time I was crossing the street right here down, actually right on this, on this corner. And sometimes I was walking, I'm on the phone.

And I woke past some guy and he was like, hey. I'm like, yo, I'm on the phone. And I'm like, you say it again, Mom for me? No. I walk. So I stopped. I'll turn and I look. You like that octave that caught your ear?

No, it was just like. PTSD from Harlem Boysquire? I think for a second, I felt how women felt when their cat called and they don't like it. Like in that moment, I was like, because you can't be, you can't be, well, you could be offended by it if you're not into, you know, if you're not gay. But like, I don't care about that. But it was kind of like, it was more so like, what the, like this happens? This is a thing. Like, men see other men on the street and like cat call them.

Yeah, they're still men at the end of the day. They still have the cat calling gene. Yeah, but I didn't know you were just cat calling like each other. Yeah. Had no idea of completely fucking me up. I didn't know how to respond. It was completely like a what the fuck just happened moment. And I had to tell my homeboys on the phone with, he thought it was the funny shinar.

But I was like really like, that was a learning thing for me. I didn't even know that gay men do that. You never been to a gay bar? Edon, first of all, I don't drink, number one. Number two, why would I be at a gay bar? I've been to plenty of gay bars. You've been to plenty of bars and haven't drunk there. A gay bar?

If I go to a bar, it's to see women. It's the same thing I said about the gay private. If you're the only straight guy there, there's mad women there. If the gays like you, it's like the best wingman on planet fucking earth. Yeah, but I didn't know that. Gay bars are mad fun. Yeah, I'm not going to a gay bar. Gay guys pay for drinks.

Well, that's the good thing is I don't drink. So you don't have to even spend money on me. I'm just like a... Gay men smoke blood too. But I felt so weird, like not paying. Why are you trying to give me to hang out with gay guys? What are you trying to say? Nothing at all.

I have nothing against gay men. I'm just like, why do y'all want me to go to a gay bar and smoke weed with gay guys? because there'll be plenty of women that maybe you'll meet and be emotionally available. Okay. As long as there's some women there. There's plenty of women there.

Good. All right. So if it's some women there, I don't give a fucking way. Well, it's a safe environment. As long as you're not in an advertising office, it's a very safe environment around. If it's something to sell, get out of there.

We used to have to go to Atlanta a lot because one of our main offices was down there. Oh, I love that transition. And Atlanta game, yeah. Come on. On Tadras everywhere. It's like the gay black Hollywood. But to your point of like,

finally understanding to some degree what women feel with catcalling, it would be times like, all, we're out the office, and, you know, we'd all go out afterwards and then people go back to the hotel and still drink. And you've got coworkers that you conical with where it's like, all, yeah, we can go to my room and drink.

I would be nervous of certain gay dudes that would come into the room because I know how aggressive they would get when they were sober in the office. I don't know what you're about to do to me drunk in this hotel room. So you used to get dressed up nice and put on Cologne,

you had to go like to work yeah yeah because i had to go to work that's not wait hold on no what you're trying to imply that i was wrong for looking nice to listen man you can't you can't you can't are you victim shading me no what were you wearing no i'm not did you just what were you wearing what were you wearing rory i'm just trying to figure out what were you wearing rory i'm just trying to figure out why would you did you look like you were asking for it why would you dress up this salad if you don't want to buy it eat it like that's what i'm saying a salad entangra when we're talking about sexual harassment I'm just saying why would you

and victim blaming why would you make the buffet look so like appeasing if you feel like you're going to go to work and be like well I woke up like this oh okay it's just this just happens I know it's hard to see but

this right here it didn't take no work at all I know it's hard to believe no it's really hard to believe that I could just look like this just out the bed on the wake up yeah but that's how I look Some people are just blessed with it. No, I get it, man. I get it.

I'm just fucking with you. But it is funny to think that you're going to work knowing that gay men are going to hit on you and you're like just spraying colonel of yourself in the morning. It's like me. I'm not even taking a shower. I'm like, oh, they're going to hate me. So I like the dude in prison that gets raped all the time and just tries to smell as bad as possible. Just don't wash your ass.

I was not going to do prison techniques at my advertising job. You wasn't going to act like it. You said it was the yard. It was. Treat it like the yard. Put your wrap, take the yellow pages to your stomach and all that case you can you pull a shank out.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Don't wash your ass. Like don't make it. Don't make yourself like, you know, approachable. You got to be like, oh my God, this guy stinks.

Like, they got to want to stay away from me. I was working. I'm completely joking. Shout out to all the gay men out there, man. That's a new drop. Is it? Shout out to the gay man. Yeah, shout out to the gay man.

Anyways. With that being. said. I don't even know how we got on that tangent. You was talking about some some gay shit. I don't know. Speaking of gay shit, the summer's coming. The summer is coming. The summer is gay shit. I can't figure out spring. Spring is trying to fight back when it goes from snowing to 70 degrees like today. And I don't want to talk about the weather, but DeMaris put down in the production notes, one of the funniest sentences I've seen. Will the world ever look the same? How many times we had this conversation? after COVID you mean?

And then it comes back. And then it, dog, it's just is what it is. It is what it is. I think everything is pretty much back to normal at this point. This is the new world, if you want to call it that, the new world order. But I am happy that the weather is changing. We're starting to get, you know, creep up into the 60s, 70s a little bit. How's your summer bod coming?

Still loaded, man. I'm in the gym, you know. I'll be ready by June. I see Damaris's close, friends. DeMaris doing two days. DeMaris in the gym, sweating it out. I was talking to her yesterday. We needed something.

She said, I won't be available for the next three hours. I'll be in the gym. Like, who's in the gym for three hours? D' Maris. You know, DeMaris. Somebody who doesn't feel like booking Rory's hotel. And, you know, I was in the gym, though. And you know what else you got to, because DeMaris is going on vacation soon.

See, you got to, you can always tell when they're going on vacation. They start going crazy in the gym. You've been starving yourself, D. Eat. You got to eat, all right? Don't starve yourself just so you could. get these bikini picks off. I know what you're planning.

I know you've been all- Social media, thank you. You off social media? I've been off social media for the past like four days, four or five days. Really? Why?

So you gave them all that action in L.A., and then you just dipped? Mm-hmm. I know that move. I know that move. That disappeared move. You guys know I never post on Instagram.

It was literally my birthday weekend. That's the only reason why I was posting. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Because I ain't gonna lie. You fucked me up. I opened my phone to see Demaris.

I was like, whoa, whoa. The fuck is going on here. I called HR. And Loyon. Cut her car. Two good people to call. Two good people to call. Cut her Wi-Fi.

Did she pay her phone bell through this? Cut that off too. I had a dream that Loyon quit. It was a fucking nightmare. I was so sad. I woke up and I texted him. I said, Loian, I had a dream. You quit.

Please don't ever quit. And he sent me a voice message. I was like, I'm not going anywhere. I was like, okay. What is it with women and birthdays at Instagram? Maybe that's an obvious question, but I just don't quite understand why it has to be such an extravagant thing.

I understand your birthday being that amongst the people you love and all that. You're celebrating yourself. Fuck all that. How them DMs looked after you started dropping all that content? You know that little. That's why she said, her man says you gotta get offline now. It's a different time of time.

Yo, I swear to God, Rory. I'm trying to lead up to that like, okay, come back home. You dropped all that heat when you was out of town. Now all of a sudden you off the ground. That nigga laid it down He applied that pressure When she came back I know what happened

He had that talk Nice little incentive too He came to you as a man Did he come to you as a man? He came to her as a man He was like, You listen man You know I hope you have fun

You love you have fun I hope you have fun Even though you didn't You hope she had a terrible time Listen I hope you Men don't ever want their girl To have a great time We never want

Not if we're not around We don't want that The worst lines I hope you got out your system Yeah Come back home Come back to me So I talk to your system right?

Yeah You got you had your fun You saw what the streets was like, right? You had your fun, it's over, all right? We're back together. I love you. I'm not going away. I'm sorry.

Let's get this thing right. Give love a chance, DeMaris. But delete that fucking, that app. Damn. Now, you can't delete it. You can't delete it. No, my Instagram is deleted. Wait, you deleted your Instagram?

Yeah. You didn't like inactivated or whatever? Deactivate. Oh, so you can still bring it back like I think within 90 days or some shit. Like 30 days, I think, right? I think 30 days is too. With Twitter, you have to do it within 30 days, or they will, they've deleted my pay.

I always, like, forget to reactivate my Twitter. Wait, so. Wait, will they delete all your tweets, too? They'll delete everything. Oh, shit. Maybe I should just do that. New Twitter time. I got hacked so many times.

They start thinking this, me. I'm like, fam, y'all were not around for that era, but that was not me, but whatever. That was a, the hacking of the Twitter era. Yeah, like, you leave your phone down. You walk away for a second. Come back. Your homeboys, then let 37's tweets off. You're like, bro, what are y'all doing?

I haven't tweeted in two days. Fuck hacking. You need me to do that. I could make a fake tweet about you from my phone and just put RT in front of it. They got me with that too at one point thought I was tweeting crazy shit. I'm like, y'all just wasn't around for that time, but whatever.

And if you go through and clear all your tweets up, if somebody made a fake RT about you, there's nothing. There's nothing else. There's nothing you can do about it. I'm just like, fam. All right, whatever. Someone did that for me and I went to my tweet delete her shit and I hit her and I talked to her in years.

I was like, hey, can you please delete this fake retweet that she did? She was like, I don't have that account anymore. and like I look at her page, she hasn't tweeted since 2012. And I'm like, so now it's just sitting there. It's just sitting there, right? Wait, but let's get back to DeMaris real quick. Because I think, I kind of feel like we stumbled upon a good little topic. So I want to know the rollout for when it comes back.

Is it going to be the couples rebrand? You know when she's coming back. Is it going to be the work rebrand? It's the vacation. The vacation picture is coming. Okay. The vacation picture's coming. So you come back from L.A.

We had a great time. Great pictures. You got some great content off. Thank you so much. Had a great birthday. Thank you. And then, now you come home and now it's deactivated.

Can you tell us why? Y'all know why. Because she had a good time. No. Oh. You just didn't feel like arguing? I have gone out of my way to stay inconspicuous on this podcast. That's true.

And my socials got found and they got spread around and now, you know. You didn't want that attention? No, I don't. I go out of my last Instagram hit 5,000. I deleted and started over. I don't. Yeah, I tried the strategy of being on a podcast. podcast and being in inconspicuous or whatever fucking word that is.

It doesn't work. Inconspicuous. How are you inconspicuous? All people had to do was go to Doucée Pallusa and you were there walking around pissed off. Okay. But see, even with Ducey Palluzzi, y'all, y'all never saw my face. I was always, I never wanted to be, well, yeah, because that's because y'all kept pissing me off.

But I was never trying to be in front of fucking cameras or any of that shit. I was always behind. Even when, this is going to sound arrogant, just true, even when I became the most popular person socials-wise in Palooza, you still never saw my face on anything flyer related, anything on the stage, anything with promos. You saw Carl dancing way more than you saw me. Yeah. I mean, I think it's just when you're a private person, and I think obviously you try to be as private as you can, I still try to be as private as I can be. I just think at some point it's just like, bro, this is what it is now. You know what I mean? But I do want I do wish that I could

I wish that I could delete my Instagram because I don't post really if it's not show related or anything like that I don't really post shit but I do want to I do wish I could delete it but I just know that it's

it's part of the job I feel like all y'all are lying when you say that though me because you like Instagram maybe you don't like to post or put anything like I treat Instagram like the magazine section at the at the hockey store

like I just look at pictures you know more comments than anyone on earth like you part of your life would be missing if you deleted your Instagram not really yeah mom how you're gonna get without Instagram. Wait.

Yo, she's got a point. She's got a point. You know what I love Demaris? You know, Demaris is the only person that talks to me, the way she talks to me. Like, literally in my entire life, she's the only person. The listener say I disrespect you. No, I don't think it's disrespectful. But you're definitely the only person that talks me that way.

Demaris, I would absolutely meet women without Instagram. I don't mean that. But, Ma, like, when I say you don't be outside. I don't. Like, you know what I'm saying? Where would you meet women if it was Instagram right now? Maybe Whole Foods, Trader Joe's. You're a vegan.

You wouldn't be in any section that... Well, you get your groceries delivered. Sometimes. But sometimes you got to go and see what new... Because you get caught up in this thing now. It's like a real thing. You get caught up in order in the same shit over and over. So sometimes you have to actually go to Whole Foods

and see what new shit they got. You know what I mean? You see the new cereal. Like, oh, they got this? Okay, cool. I know to get this now. But bad bitches like dirty poultry. So you wouldn't be in the same section.

I keep it. I keep it culture. I still go to Key Food in Seetown from time to time. Yeah, got to get your seasonings there. Yeah, I got to keep my, you know what I mean? Got to keep my, because you know, you go to your products that fucking. Exactly. Certain products that are only in those type of stopping shop, shop, right.

You got to keep it culture. I still don't think you'd meet any women if it wasn't for Instagram right now. Not saying you couldn't. I just don't. Because I'm not outside like that, yeah. It'll be hard. It'll be hard. But I think the women that-

Last woman you talked to, where did you meet her? The last woman I spoke to today? No, like that you had. situation with. I met her in person. Where? In L.A. Where?

At a party. Okay. Like a day party. Look at you day partying. What year was this? You can lie about the timeline? 2019. All right, that was a long time ago.

Yeah. What was your pickup line? Give me the whole situation. I don't know how to, especially because the only parties will go to. It wasn't even a pickup line. It'd be too loud. I can't even talk to a woman. No, it wasn't even a pickup line.

I was like, it was like, So my personality has to do it and at these parties I can't get my shit off. No, it wasn't a pickup line. It was like we were all kind of like the same people knew the same people. I was kind of like the outsider. You did the mysterious role.

Like, oh, who's your friend? Why is he so quiet? Yeah, yeah. You look like the wise. So quiet guy. But I'm, you know, y'all just sold me in the club. Y'all was just with me. What did y'all say?

Like, yo, Maul, you ain't even moving. I was just standing in a chill and smoking. That move worked for him one time in 2019 and he just keep trying it at every person. party. That's what I'm trying to do. It's not a move. It's not a move. It's not a move. It's not a move if that's what I do all the time. It's not considered a move. It's a move if it's some new shit. Like, oh, you acting. No, that's me. I'm chill. I'm in the cut. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to smoke my

weed. If it's some water on the table, I'm going to drink some water. What was the first little LOL you gave her when you stop being the mysterious guy? Because you know the mysterious guy when you're that. And then you come with a good joke. It's like, oh my God, Andy's funny. I can't. I can't remember that. Didn't expect that from you. Dad, I can't, I can't remember all of that. I really, I honestly don't even remember how the conversation started. But it was a great, it was a great party, though.

Question. Let's say if you guys didn't have the life you guys have now, would you ever subject to being housewives or husbands? Well, I mean, I've already suggested. And congrats to Lexi traded to L.A. from Chicago. Congratulations yesterday. Told her how proud I was. And now I'm like, oh, you'd be like a regular guest on the show now because we'd be an LA all the time.

So I'm excited. She was traded to Chicago or? No, she was traded to LA. Damn, you don't even know her. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't, I'm sorry. That's supposed, if that's my girl, that's technically your sis.

Like, that's how it works. I just, you know, I don't know what team your sister's on. There's been so many trades and transactions happening. I can't keep up, Rory. I apologize. She got traded from Chicago to L.A.

So Lexi will be. Yes, she will be in L.A. We're always in L.A. What do you know? I know. Who even? I had her, yeah, I'm always there. Crazy.

Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy that you'll be in LA because I'm in L.A. All the time. That's such a coincidence, Roar. I'm happy for you. So to Edens' question, like, I mean, yeah, I could see myself just being the court's husband. What does a house husband do?

I could never, me, I could never be a house husband. Like, I need to be doing something outside of the house every day. Like, I need to be, I can't just be home making sure supper is prepared. S supper. Yeah, like, I'm not, that would never be that guy. Maybe one day out of the week. But every day, like, that's my job. Like, because what does a house husband do?

Like, you go to the gym, right? Once the kids at school, I guess. You probably take them to the gym. You go to the gym. You could probably go, like, I don't know, shopping. Yeah. Like, then you go home and do. You can hang with your other house husbands.

Drink Chardonnay. Wait, there's other house husbands? Yeah. So, like, just like housewives have housewife friends. You can go, like, you and Rory, if you were both house husbands can, like, go hang out together. Where does one meet all these house husbands, though? Is this like a thing?

You got to go out around, like, throughout the day. I feel like Williamsburg has a lot of house husbands. Probably. I feel like you got to move to Greenpoint or some shit to be a house husband. I don't think you could be like a house husband in the Bronx. Just don't think we work that way. House husbands of the Bronx sounds like a great shit. Hey, we got to shoot that.

Hey, we got to shoot that. House husbands of the Bronx? Hold on. Let me ask you this, though. Does it qualify if you hang out outside your project building, you're not technically employed by the government? doesn't that make you kind of a stay-at-home husband? Absolutely. Because you're just outside your building.

Now that I think about it, I know a few house husbands in the Bronx. All they do is just drop the kids off at the school bus in the morning. Go cop a dime right up the block. Yeah. Go back home, roll up, smoke. Talk about the moves they're about to make. Get on 2K. Yeah. Get on Instagram, Twitter, talk about how, like, there's no country for bum-ass niggas.

You know, those are- for them type of niggas love to me like that. And then, like, they pick the kids up around 334. Take an Instagram flick. Yeah. Take them to go get a slice of pizza. You know what I'm saying? Maybe to the park. Yeah.

I definitely know some house husbands in the Bronx. Same. I think most of the dudes hanging outside the building are probably technically house husbands if we're going off that. Or apartment husband. We can't call the house husband. We got to call it apartment husbands. Tenement husbands. Tenement husbands.

That's nasty. The project husbands are the Bronx, man. Shorty not employed either, though. No, somebody has to. to be employed. One of the parents has to be employed. Jesus Christ. Come on. Somebody has to have a steady income. It can't be a house couple.

Russ started his label. Let's give him a lot of applause. Let's give him a demaris air horn. Well-deserved Demeris air horn. That is the dolphin mating call, if you will. I heard dolphins are rapy. They're the only species outside of humans that like rape people.

Oh yeah? A rape of their own kind. They're like necrophelians. They fuck dead dolphins still? Why does your brain retain this? information? You know? Never mind. And koalas have chlamydia.

Listen, man. I don't have good facts, but I have facts. Coalas have chlamydia? Yeah. They carry chlamydia. They pass it around. In the koala community, it's a lot of burning situation. But neither here nor there.

I don't know how that got from Russ to that. Yeah, I don't know. Russ, I'm sorry. I don't know how we got. Shout out to you, Russ. Russ has started. Probably hasn't had Chlamydia. Probably. I'm almost willing to bet he didn't. Russ has finally officially launched

his label, Demon or Diamond, where all of his artists, everyone will own their own masters. He started with his best friend, Bugis. I believe that's how you pronounce it. Yes. Bugis. Bogas. Bogas. If you're in France. Bagas, if you're French. Shout out to Russ and Bugis. I think that's, but I mean, listen, we had Russ on. We spoke to Russ. He's always been ahead of the game when it comes to independent and owning your own shit and owning your art. And I think this is dope

that he's creating a label now and giving artists the same opportunity to benefit off of their art the way he has. Yeah, he's definitely been a good example of how to move independently as an artist. And I think now with him starting a label, he could be a good example of how you can structure deals where labels can be profitable

and artists can still own and be profitable. Yeah. Everyone can still win. You don't have to fuck somebody in the process. to make money. Everyone can make money the right way if you do it correctly. I never understood that when people would say

well, you know, in business, you know, somebody's going to get the short end of the stick. Like, no, everybody can get what they deserve and... People can make less. Everyone makes what they're supposed to make. What they're supposed to make. Exactly, yeah. So I'm a shout out to Russ. I think that's super dope. I like that open verse thing

that he did. Yeah. With his, um... On TikTok. Yeah. What's the name of the song? Handsome. Handsomer? I believe so, yeah.

And I saw a lot of the song. of other artists doing it. Was Russ the first one to do that? Because I know that was a TikTok thing. I don't know if he was the first one to do it, but the song is dope and the feature of the verse. What's her name? I forgot the young lady's name. She smoked it. She killed. Yeah, she killed her verse. So yeah, I don't know if Russ was the first, but he definitely created a super dope record with a truly dope artist and she killed her verse. So yeah, shout out to Russ. Is it diamond a demon? I think it's diamond. I want to say diamond. It's an acronym for do right and kill everything. Yeah, do it everyday music or nothing.

You let Drake get that line off. Do right and kill everything? You were in the studio like, oh, yeah, that's the one. The only one I hated more than do right and kill everything. Yolo? I wasn't mad at Yolo. Yolo makes sense. I wasn't mad at Yolo.

Yeah. It was kind of like yelling World Star without getting beat up. But did Drake lie about his name? I don't know. Does he do right and kill everything? I mean, he's been killing everything since he came out. Does he do right? I mean, he made a video God's plan.

He gave out over a million dollars, the budget for the video to, like, college graduates and families in need. He bought groceries for everybody at the supermarket. I mean, that's some good, right? Yeah, hedge funds also donate to St. Jude. Yeah, but I mean, listen, he's doing his part. Bank of America, you can up and round up for a cent to give to children. Yeah, I'd never do that.

Especially, like, Duane Reader CVS. They were like, yo, you want to donate seven cents. Give me my seven cents. fam i know where the seven cents is going right to cvs like nah ain't no kids benefiting from this shit do you guys know who you want to donate to so that we can get a tax break uh i think we have a 501 3c at the moment yeah i don't know if who i want to donate to maybe to the mall foundation for a unsuspecting mothers i don't know unsuspecting mothers yeah you know mothers that get pregnant and they didn't plan to it now

like their entire life has changed. I think I could create like. Wait, hold on. So women you unsuspects to get pregnant. Not me. I'm saying, you know, women that don't plan on becoming pregnant and then they pop up with like, oh God, I'm pregnant. And it's like their entire life changed.

They don't have money to take care of another kid or maybe this is their first child. So you just be like, yo, here's a couple of now. Like, you got you, I'm saying. But how do, how do you? we determine if that is in fact true? Like, what's the screening process of like, do you have to do facial recognition of their surprise

when they look at the stick after they piss on it? Like, how do we how do we verify? Well, no, but we have to, we have to, we have to invest. It's kind of like the COVID. She looked genuine. She look really pissed. Yeah, it's like the COVID test. Like, you know what I'm saying? You give them a kit to do it at home themselves.

Send it in. So like a peeing on a stick. Yeah, something you pick up. Instead of swab your nose, just, you know, swab your clothes. No, that exists. I'm saying, how do we know? that they generally were not trying to get...

That they were unsuspecting. Well, you can usually... I see some suspects in this. You can usually tell... No, there's going to be fraud. They're going to try to get some loans and some... You know that. Some insider trading.

That's in anything. But, you know, you have to kind of study them, following them. We have private investigators that follow them to make sure that they are in fact... It's expensive. Yeah, like... We hire private investigators to follow them.

It was the worst charity of all time. Wait, so before they get pregnant... It'll work, man. You just have a private investigators just following women. Yes. Just in case they get pregnant. Yes, to make sure that they're single.

This is the Kanye West Fund. I mean, you know, it's some stalker-ish tendencies with this organization, but they mean well and that they make sure that the mothers that deserve it get this money. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's what we're doing for tax breaks. Listen, man, follow me, man. Your buddies are Fox News would tear that program apart. Oh, my Lord.

Speaking of which, are you upset? The CDC lifted the ban on immigrant COVID laws and all that shit. Am I upset? Why would I be upset? Because you're a right winger that hates immigrants? I'm a right winger that hates immigrants. Yes. Look at these narratives that get spun about me.

Gee, thanks, Maul. I'm not a right winger that I love immigrants. I'm an immigrant. My family is descendants of immigrants. But I, you know, I don't know. So an American. Yeah, I'm American. Yeah, I'm American.

Yeah, I'm American. Yeah, we're all immigrants in this country. We shouldn't be here. But here we are. So you didn't suggest building a wall between every single state, too, right? That wasn't you? No, no, I would never suggest no crazy shit. Yo, see, this is the thing.

Let me ask you something. Honest question. Are you willing to admit that a lot of shit that I said Trump was right about, he was right about? This doesn't be honest. What did you say that was right? Let's do it. Fam, did I not have the conversation? Let's finally have the conversation.

We avoid it every time. Did I not say Trump was a better candidate than Biden? Sure. You did say that. Is Trump not a better, was he not a better fit president than Biden? I'm not going to call Joe Biden a moral human being because I do not know that. Maybe politic-wise, you could say that

because it doesn't look like Biden even knows what planet he's on. And that's all I was ever saying. But morally and the things that Trump sparks with the words in the groups of people that he inspires, it was a very dangerous situation to have that man in there for four more years. More dangerous than Biden?

As far as encouraging people to proceed in violence. I don't know if you were around for January 6th, but that was the craziest thing I've ever seen in my fucking life. First of all, a lot of that shit has been like, that had nothing to do with Trump, though. A year later, how are people still putting that on Trump?

I don't know, because they were all watching Donald Trump speak a few blocks away, and he said, it's time. I don't know, because they went from a Donald Trump speech to the Capitol. How would I put those two together? See, but they ended his Twitter account. So a lot of the tweets that were there, you can no longer see.

He used tweet delete her like me? No, no. They just shut them up. He can't even use his account anymore. But that wasn't Donald Trump's fault, man. People got to stop putting all of that shit on Donald Trump. That was not his fault. It was.

It was not a- All I ever said, I never voted for Trump. I never told anybody to vote for him. Because you're a felon. You can't vote for him. So people can't call me a Trump supporter. I never voted for him, didn't tell anybody vote for him. said that out of those two candidates, the better choice was Trump.

That's all. That's fine. And look at the numbers now. People are disapproving of Biden every day. What does the inside of the Capitol look like? Me? I have no idea. Okay.

Never been, never had no desire to go. I don't care about those type of buildings. I never was like to go to D.C. on a field trip guy. You did say you were going to D.C. this weekend, possibly, though. Is there some type of meeting or something? Me and Trump? So a little underground meeting going on A plan for the next few years

He and Donnie go catch up man over a watercress salad You know Donald Trump just not eat salad That's number one Does that man's skin look He has very big pores He just not eat salad A lot of cold cuts with that guy

I just like the fact that You know And we could end this But I do like the fact that When Trump was president It did force more people To try to kind of understand And look into what was going on

Government and politics a little more So I mean if we didn't get anything out of that more people started paying attention to politics and shit like that. So I did appreciate that. Listen, man. Yeah. We're all fucked you the way. But go Biden.

We did it, Joe. We did it, Joe. Whatever the fuck they did. I still don't know what they did. I ain't heard from her since. I still don't know what they did. But they did it. Whatever they did it.

Yeah, man. So, where was she? Who? She was at Rock Creek Park for sure. Where was she at when on that call? Somewhere doing a fake jog and, you know, just to get that. Had the vest on. Oh, politics are so nasty.

It looked like a movie. That shit just looked like, it looked exactly like a movie. But whatever. So yeah, shout out to Russ and Diamond Records. I don't know if that's the name of it, but that's the name of it today. You should sign. To Diamond? Russ would sign you.

I'm not a recording. I could be a recording artist. I do a podcast. We record this. Yeah. All you actually have to do is deliver. Like, Russ is a great writer. You could give delivery.

Absolutely. I think it could work. I think Ma has a good rap voice. Yeah, I do. Let's try it. But you should be like kind of like the reformed since you're older. You have to do the approach of like talking to the youth. I'm older?

Yeah, like you're, because me and Little Wayne are the same age. Nobody's calling Little Wayne old. You see how you see how y'all discriminate? Your favorite rapper is the same age as me. Nobody's calling them old. Yeah, but he's-a-Wain old. Who calls Little-Wain old? Rap is no country for old men in some degree.

And I'm saying if you're going to be the new artist, Wayne's been around forever. He's already, you're coming out as a new artist. You can't be your age and a new artist. Then it's like, it's a little odd. Okay. So you'd have to have the approach of like, talking, you just got, you just got, you were supposed to make it in 99.

I just came home. Fresh out. But what you did though? In 99, what would I have done? I probably would have armed robbery. Okay. Oh, shit. Yeah, I like it.

Probably armed robbery. But you ain't, you ain't even do it, but you held it down. Yeah, like I was, like I was there, but, you know, I didn't really, I didn't pull a gun on nobody, but I was there. I was a part of it. And then, then my son was your cellie and, like, kind of turned everything around. You could be putting in the cell with me.

And you kind of looked at shit differently. And then you came out and was like, no, I got to talk to these kids. Yeah, I got to teach them to stay away from these potholes in the city and the government. Yeah, Mice did that. Mice did that. Shout to Mice. I hope Mice is sensitive. Because I am joking.

Are you guys excited about Dreamville and DJ dramas upcoming? tape? I'm not excited. I wouldn't say excited. I don't like using that word. I'm excited about no, I'm not excited. I don't think I really get excited about anything. Yeah, no. If I say I was excited about something, I was probably lying. I lied. I've never been, I don't get excited about anything. But it is good to see, you know, drama and Dreamville and the whole, is it a gangster girl? Yeah. It's a gangster girl's mixtape with Dreamville, which I like, I like, I'm never mad at a new gangster girl. And I'm not mad at when a label hits and certain artists hit such high success. They don't become too bougie just to do like some cool mix tape shit real quick yeah like it's i'm not i'm this

amazing artist i can't go down with you guys and do what we used to do now i think the shit is ill i like that i like what dreamville is doing paired it with with with the festival too and drama's doing a gangster grill set with wayne gz and t i so i like how they put that all together that that that was dope yeah i like i like i like the whole dreamville movement i like how they move uh you know they don't they don't try to mimic or imitate what anybody else is doing they move moving on their own accord and at their own pace. So shout out to Jay Cole and what he's been able to do with Dreamville and his artists.

The most active, I think, out of the big three label-wise. So, I mean, this is just fact-wise. I'm not saying who's your favorite artists at all that shit, but Dreamville is way more active than I think TDE and OVO combined. I know they all have different strategies in their output of music and how many artists they sign, but Dreamville, whether it just be putting out Dreamville, projects or their artists are a couple projects a year.

Yeah. Whereas the other ones aren't. So I like how active they are currently. Yeah. It's also kind of you can see that the relationship between the artists. I think that they have a real like relationship with each other on on some level. And I think that helps as far as like the recording process and, you know, people being able to put out projects and put together projects when they want.

And, you know, just having those people around you to lean on when it's. like go time when it's like okay my project is ready and giving their artist the freedom to to put their work out and move the way they want to move I think that's super dope for sure I'm gonna go down to Dreamville fest mm-hmm um I got I got to practice like my my small talk a lot of small talk I'm a little nervous and and on top of that like the weather's gonna be good so I know everyone is going to be there like the whole time yeah and the lineup's insane and I know how a lot of artists and managers and all that side of life is going to want to see other sets

even when they're not performing. So I'm getting ready. I'm getting that, yo, congrass on the success. Yeah. So it's going to be a lot of. You got to do a lot of that. Let's work. You got to do a lot of that exchanging of phone numbers,

energy, smiles, handshakes. It's draining. I guarantee I'll probably have upwards of 25 of, yeah, come on the pop. Yep, of course I'll come. Just let me know when. Anytime. Whenever you ready.

Yeah. Whenever you're ready to be said about 20 million times over the week and you know that. When's the next time you in New York? Yeah, I think I'm there like and then they never know. They never know the next time they're here. But whenever you're ready though. Then next Dreamville Fest next year. Like, yo, why we never did that? Bro, I don't know.

You wasn't in New York. Yo, the timing. Timing is crazy. Yeah, I get it. I was thinking about going down there too. You should. I'm still thinking about it. I'm still thinking about it.

It's less with that crew, though, that I have to do that type of shit because I'm actually cool with most of them. Yeah. So the small talk won't be insane. but I am preparing myself because I am really bad at that. Yeah. But shout out to Dreamville. Shout out to Dreamville.

Is it Dreamville Fest? Dreamville Fest. Yeah. Dreamville Fest. Well, not just Dream Fest. Hmm. I like Dream Fest. Well, then you're taking the Ville out.

Yeah, but it's the fest. The VIII. Yeah. Yeah, but it's the fest. The Ville. Or Ville Fest of Ville. Dream Fest of Ville. Come on, Cole.

Cole missed that. Cole. Cole, like, come on. How did it go over here? Yeah, you put all those words together, Colin. You ain't put that together? Were. That's a wrap, man.

Send us our pub, be. Have you guys gotten the chance to check out was Khalifa's and hip-hop D-X's documentary? You're really bad. I'm bad. I say biopic when it should be biopic. You know how to say a documentary. Yeah, people have been on my ass. You say it right, biopic.

Documentary. Documentary. Documentary. Okay. Documentary. You say it like a Jamaican. Mall, you say adults. okay what is it adults

adults it's adults adult adult and what do I say adult adult yeah I don't know I didn't even catch that I've never peeped how you say adult does he say adult a lot

yes do I yes okay at least you don't say kids a lot no I wasn't making fun I just said no everyone in my mentions kept saying that I'm like I don't care how she says that worse they were terrible that's the Syracuse in them

okay that's how I say it in the Q's that's I don't know I've always said that. In the Q's in the Q's. In the Q's. Is it called the Q's? Yes. Oh my bad.

Documentary. See, I'll be in them Q streets, me. You know what I'm saying? Worst time. I had the worst time. Did I tell you about that experience? Yes. Did it?

Did it? Did it? Yes, he did. Quickly. Remind me? The worst time on my fucking life. I don't want to repeat shit, but quickly remind me? Went to see my, went on my homeway up there.

He had to show up there. Same night as Dead Press. Remember when everybody was, you know, Dead Press was killing the college circuit. And I got so focused. All the woke lights. Yeah, I got so sick, bro. It was, I caught the flu.

I might have been the first nigga with COVID now that I think about it. Because that didn't feel like the flu. Yeah, that didn't feel like the flu. It felt like COVID. But got extremely sick. And my homeboy was having a show out there. You know, he was trying to do his music thing. Beanie and his whole boy.

No, me being his homeboy. I'm behind. Like, yeah, we mobbing. We're going to the cues. We go up there, bro. It was nobody at that venue. Like, everybody was at the Dead Press concert. As they should have been.

And I went up there and got sick, was in the hotel or the motel for fucking three days shaking, warming up Campbell's soup and a kettle. It was nasty times, bro. It was nasty times, bro. Nasty fucking time. Because I wasn't spending the knowledge. True. Or teaching someone how to rob the Chinese guy. Yeah, exactly.

But worst time of my life, but I got to go back to Syracuse and experience it again because that was the worst time of my life. And shout out to Dead Price. But yeah, so Wiz Khalifa and hip-DX did a documentary. There you go. Hey. All right. Beat me to it. About Taylor Gang's influence called Still Rolling Papers, which dropped on the 11-year

anniversary of Rolling Papers. And it's pretty good. It shows like the influence because at that time, like that was like such a big thing in the culture. If you guys remember those days. Taylor Gang? The Taylor Gang days. Absolutely.

Yeah, man. That does need to be highlighted. I mean, I guess it was one of those you had. to be there times, but that Taylor gang shit, especially during the blog era and coming into what streaming is now. Yeah. Wiz own that entire time. Wiz is a, he's one of the most humble superstars, I believe.

Because I do believe that Wiz Khalifa is a superstar. He's a star. I believe he's a superstar. I believe Wiz can go over. I put superstar up like weekend, Beyonce, that type of shit. But Wiz is a star. He's a star. If you're going to, yes, if you're going to do that.

just where I put the, I don't like to just use the word. Just like excited. I don't want to be, I'm lying when I say I'm excited. But yeah, he's, he's, he's a bigger star than some people would, would know or expect. And I think that's by his own accord. Because he did, he was outside and invisible for a while. And then he definitely fell back. But even when he had like the Fast and the Furious record, which was probably his biggest record, if you go by chart wise, he was still chilling. Like he didn't go out to make himself more of that visible star.

He's created his own world that he lives in. that he operates in and, you know, he'll jump out of his world and join us other earthlings from time to time whenever he feels like it. But he's done a great job at, you know, not losing himself. You can tell he's still Wiz. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, and even after all

the success and, you know, the star power that he has, he's still Wiz Khalifa at the end of the day. He was the original ski. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You don't remember hashtag Wiz wears cool pants? Kine has been on this shit for a while, bingo car, but he's been on this harassment shit for quite some time. That's hilarious, bro.

Wiz and Amber was mine in their motherfucking business. Only one he got respect for is Wiz, though. Kanye came out and said that. Oh, yeah, on whatever Calid record that was. I think it ended up on a cruel summer. I don't remember. Whatever that good music. But yeah, he came out and squashed that let people know like he fuck Wiz.

Because, again, Wiz was mine in his business. Which was like, fuck. Skeet mind his business. Skeet ain't bothering nobody. Yeah, and Pete kind of looks like... Paulin that man, Skeet. Pete kind of looks like a...

Kind of like a white version of whiz in a weird way. Oh, he's definitely the white whiz. He is a white whiz. Kanye has an X type. Like the new dude type. No, he's not a white dude type. I'm not doing that. Wiz is a lot cooler than...

Oh, way cooler. But I'm saying as far as like that look of like the full tattoo, tall, skinny, like... Duffy. I'm burnt out, but I'm still aware. Look. Okay. Kanye has a little 7-11-ish.

Like the guys that hang out in front of 7-11 and skateboard. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. Yeah. I think Travis Barker is one of those type of people. Yeah. They're geniuses in their own right, but they have a look. They have a look.

Yeah. It's definitely 7-Eleven Couture, for sure. 7-Eleven Couture. That's funny. I did see Wiz, Dizzy, and Big Crit are putting an album out together. Yeah. Is that confirmed? I think that's part of their Smokers Club thing maybe.

Mm-hmm. Which was big. Yeah. I know Smok was telling us about. He was telling me about they had some shit that they were cooking up that they were trying to do. So, I mean, I know those guys, and they have a legit history. Oh, yeah. And they all came together.

Get them on each other for a while. That tour started that entire shit. Yeah. I'm excited for that. You're not excited for that. Yeah, it's coming out April 8th. You're not excited. I'm not excited.

I look forward to it. There you go. I look forward to hearing what these gentlemen have been able to create in the studio together and present to the world. Yes. Girl Talk was Khalifa Big Cret and Smiley. Moog Dizzer have announced a collaborative new album called Full Court Press. That'll be out April 8th. Full Court Press.

Yes. They released a lead single called Put You On. Interesting. But shout out to Wiz, man. I see he been dropping fucking kickboxing workout videos and the women have been going crazy. Whiz whooping ass out here? I'm just working out and showing his dick print. I'm glad I don't follow Wiz.

Hashtag whiz wears cool pants That's just what he's been doing He's just been working out And lifting weights, kickboxing And fucking Boxer Breeze Maybe it's easier to get a high kick that way No, it's definitely more of mobility

You know, the hips Compressions would help though In that regard I mean They're just loose kicking They're like compressions though They're kind of compression shorts You know what I'm saying

But he's just been I don't know Wizz is I don't know if he's singling On the market And I don't know what he's doing I respect He's been riling the ladies up out there

growling the ladies up and the men oh my god do you guys have anything um you want to talk about to close out uh there was some two other things music related i forgot that was off that whiz and hip-hop d x shit but uh as we're recording this alex isley and jack dine epi p just came out um okay i listened to it on the way how was it it was incredible off the first first listen but we're recording this as it just came out um that that their last project yeah They don't miss. It was fucking insane. They really don't miss.

I'm pretty sure this is right, right on in the same, in the same wheelhouse. It's the last one. It's called Mary Gold's. Love Again is on there, which was the big single. Boss is on it, speaking of Dreamville, Robert Glasper. Shut out the boss. But off the first listen in the whip, even Bays was feeling that shit. So.

Did you like that? Check that out. I see ESA's producing a new show called Rap Shit. Yeah. didn't we go to Hooray? I was just about to ask you guys that the Hooray, like, festival thing she had in D.C. this weekend? It's this weekend? Horei is her production

company. Well, it was last weekend technically. Okay. Well, we were in L.A. No, we were. You were? You were in L.A. Well, you left one. Friday night? Morning. You was there too, nigga. Why did the man shall leave me? You was there too, dig. I spoke to you. You was at the pool at my hotel all day chilling. They got cold to my, yo, where your sweats at? Nick, I don't have no sweats. Freeze.

But yeah, her production company through like this big Almost like festival type thing in D.C. And it was, I heard it was really lit. I had some friends that went. And then at that event, she spoke about her upcoming ventures and production. She says she doesn't want to be in front of the camera anymore. Any more? Any more?

Or she doesn't wear all the hats. No, she says she just wants to produce. Issa is a great actress, man. She has to be in front of the camera. But you know, some people want to take a break and try new shit. I get that. But don't say. you're done like being an actress like

she was already a rapper on Insecure She did her rap shit Insecure is going to go down as I think because it's still fresh But when we look back it's definitely one of the greatest shows that we've had in our culture I agree Like if you look at the whole

Process, character development In that entire show I believe that they can spin off A couple characters on that show And have their own series on HBO Snowfall or Insecure Because they're comparable than not comparable but

I like insecure more though if we're gonna compare them wow yeah so that that would make insecure better than the wire

too um it's more relatable I believe I can relate to insecure more than I can relate to the wire yes yeah that's what I'm saying

so it's more relatable so in that sense like yeah I would have to go with insecure because just because it's more relatable insecure or Martin weird comparison Weird comparison to me, but

it's closer than snowfall. 100% I'm not saying mine were up. I got to go Martin, man. I'm going Martin. Yo, it was somebody put out, I don't even know if this is real, but somebody put out a trailer

for a movie about Martin and Pam. It might have been fake. It's probably fake. Listen, bro, I have to find this shit. If we can't talk about it today, we're going to talk about it. That shit, I don't know who wrote it, who directed it.

But I was like, this needs to come out. Car up. Yeah. It was like that. That shit was super, super dope. I'm not sure who did it, but I'll find that I'll bring it up on the next show. But it was like a movie about Martin and Pam's characters. It was like super, super dope.

Power or Seinfeld? White people, y'all love that Seinfeld. Y'all going to get your Seinfeld shit off. I mean, yeah. Can we have an honest talk about Seinfeld? Of course we can. Seinfeld was a good show. It was.

It was a good show. I think that it kind of is overrated though. What's overrated about it? I feel like it was it was funny. It was it was humorous. But I think that a lot of people just started saying Seinfeld was a great show because they heard people saying Seinfeld was a great show. It was so like friends. If it was this era, it would have been like if Hype Be said you should like Seinfeld.

So then all those, that crew of people saying. said, oh, this is the new thing. And then that trickled down to this is the smartest, greatest comedy ever. And it was fucking white people on the Upper West Side. So it was relatable to white people. On that person. Yeah, but they acted just like white New Yorkers. Yeah.

And then everyone that wasn't in New York was like, oh, we have the inside look to New Yorkers. When it was like, not really. Yeah. Not everyone just goes to the diner and then goes back to their apartment and just busts into other people's apartments. It was just, there was a lot of white people problems. There was never like a real issue on Seinfeld.

It was always like, oh, where's the jacket? Did you guys see that Seinfeld actually went viral again? For what? When all this stuff happened with Chris Rock and Will Smith.

Same what? A clip of. Yeah, they've been pulling up a whole bunch of old clips from. Yeah, you didn't see the clip of. I think it's Seinfeld, Chris Rock,

maybe Louis C.K. Oh, and Ricky Jervase. Yeah, yeah. But that's been, they've been pulling that up on the internet forever where Lucy K was using the N-word Ricky Chavez I think was using it and Seinfeld was like I'm not comfortable with it

yeah that one yeah but that you know when the Will Smith and Crispin happened everybody was like champion Seinfeld because the internet always rediscovered old shit and they made him go viral again Well you had just asked off Mike Seinfeld a curb Seinfeld a curb I don't even think that's a debate Curb is like years better than

Seinfeld in my opinion okay I don't even think it's it's remotely close and then i asked you about sinfeld or martin uh martin uh i really did enjoy signfeld like martin i had to go back to i didn't really watch martin as a kid my mother watched signfeld so i that was more part of my childhood than martin was yeah i got a i got to find that that clip about that martin and pamela because that was really good i wanted to watch that again and talk more about it but um yeah martin i'm going with martin over sinfield to me martin is the bar for all comedic actors that are trying to create their own sitcom. I mean, you look at Martin today, you still watch every episode like you've never seen it before.

Yeah, but they- Martin might be the long, like, Martin's been reruns of Martin for years now that I think about it. Like, Martin has been on BET. MTV-2. MTV-2 was just Martin. They were just literally run Martin 24 hours out today. Yeah, like that, Martin has been on, like, cable television reruns for years. Yeah.

Like, I don't know if Martin, I hope. I hope he's getting paid from that. I hope he didn't sell whatever his rights were and all of that. You know, you find out like no Martin doesn't get paid from that, that would be heartbreaking. Because that show has been running forever. Fresh Prince was in syndication for a long time, too. I need to watch that new Fresh Prince. Oh, the Bel Air?

The Bel Air shit. Everybody is saying that's good. I've heard really good things. So the concept of it is where it's not a comedy. It's what really would have happened in real life. I love that concept. And I think that's a cool concept to do. with other sitcoms and other shows.

Because, yeah, that would be a fucked up situation in real life. They're saying that Carlton's a cokehead. He would be. In real life, in a real life, yeah, he would be. Okay. So, Carl, just sent it to me. What is it called? Pam and Tommy, a Detroit love story.

A fan definitely made that. This was great. Carl, did you see this? This was fire. They have them did drama music? I mean, they have that in final cut. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm just saying like, right?

This was really good. I'm obviously not going to play it. Yeah, we'll post it. Pam and Tommy, the Detroit Love Story. Watch that trail on YouTube when you get a chance. I thought it was really dope. I would definitely want to see that movie. If that's fake, I don't know if it's fake.

Obviously, I don't know if maybe a fan just created it, but that was really good. Have you guys been keeping up with Atlanta? Two episodes out already for season three? I didn't catch it yet. I didn't catch it yet. Atlanta's another one of those shows that we don't talk about enough that's really, really dope.

I mean, I think the writing is absolutely fucking genius. Of course, it gets compared to Dave because it is a similar story of a rapper making it, but they are drastically different shows. Dave is very smart, but it's silly. And Atlanta is very much like if Kerb was a drama in the rap world. And I,

episode one is starts out, very Atlanta way. I was very confused in the beginning of year. It starts out in a very Donald Glover and I forgot his brother's name. I'm sorry, he's a genius writer. Definitely starts out in their type of vibe. But it gets back to the story and then back into some weird Atlanta shit. Stephen Glover is his name. Yeah, Stephen Lover. Um, Lover, Glover. I recommend it. It's Atlanta. If you've watched the show, it's leaning more into the weird shit. than it is the funnier shit in season one. Atlanta was one of those shows, along with the shot,

that I thought really surprised me. I didn't think that it was going to be as good for those many seasons. So I definitely want to watch start the newest season of Atlanta. But yeah, the shot is another show that I watch, still watch. And I'm like, I can't believe

that this lasted this many seasons and it's still this good. Like, the writing is incredible. They're pulling in the right actors. the storyline everything is like is super super good with the shot

as well as Atlanta and it's crazy why we don't have a New York show We have every show in the world I had to make it in America And we had a What's the shit on YouTube Why you keep bringing it?

Power is also in New York It was on YouTube and then went on title It was the YouTube show Why am I blanking? Dude was from Brooklyn created it Oh Oh uh uh

and uh was it, violence, was it? Money and violence. Money and violence is hard. Yeah, wow. I forgot about that. I'm not going to speak to because I don't know what happened with it.

I just remember loving it. Yeah. That could have definitely formed into it. Yeah, but that's what I mean like a New York show. I mean, something that, because power was great. Like, I think that it changed. It was not a New York show. I'm sorry.

Yeah, but it was, it's like, it just, when I say New York, I mean, like, I want to see some, like, and granted, yes, ghost had kids, but I'm talking about like where it's really like some young cats. in school, like, it's really around them. And like, you know, the culture of what New York is right now. Exactly. Like, I want to see something like that.

Like, we need a show like that in New York. I mean, it's, it's the perfect time, especially specifically with everything happening in Brooklyn between not only the drill rap scene, but every gang conflict that's going on there and Brooklyn completely changing. Like, it is kind of a layup to the entire tornado that is happening in that borough.

Yeah. So I, listen. I'm not smart enough to write it. Yeah, we need that, though. You are smart enough to write it. You're just too busy. That too, but I'm also not. Somebody that really lives in that Brooklyn world should write it.

Speaking of Brooklyn, I saw that Nikki Minaj and Cardi were like in Brooklyn and the Bronx shooting videos. Cardi was shooting a video, I think, for Kay Flock song. Yeah, remix. And Nikki was shooting the Fabio video. The Fabio video. That was interesting. I don't know if everybody was looking at that. Like the same way I was?

All the fans were saying what I think you're about to say. Yeah, like that was, I don't know. Like, what's going on right now? Cardi did it though. She got in the car. She showed every receipt of when she recorded the record, when they scheduled the video. She's like, I move on Cardi time.

That's it. This is a coincidence. No, no, I get that. But it's just, it's something really odd about that, though, is what I'm saying. Like, the star as big as Cardi and the star's biggest Nikki, in the hood, shooting videos. Fabio was obviously a star. I was really surprised to see Cardi doing a record.

I love the fact that she gave Kay Flock that looked up in the entire Bronx. That was love. But if you look at Red Bar shit, like, Cardi started out doing those videos. And even when she, when Bodak Yellow was at the top, she was in fucking Highbridge, chill. No, that part I understand. I'm just saying, like, the timing of both of them doing that around the same time was just like, that was just odd. There was something odd about that. I think both those artists, that's the type of videos that Fabio and them make.

No, for sure. So I just think it was a coincidence the same time. I think both those videos would look similar, judging by the type of music and the visuals that usually go with that. I only say it's odd because we know how labels are. And, you know, we know that people in the industry talk amongst each other. And I kind of feel like somebody may have caught when that one of the other was doing it and was like, all right, we have to do this. Like, we have to get this done now.

It will definitely start buzz around each of those videos if they're both being shot at the same time. Now they're going to be compared and now it's going to be that. I just don't want it to be another thing of because I think we kind of moved away from it. I just don't want it to be another thing of where people start comparing Cardi and Nikki and hitting them against each other again. That's what they did.

And that's why Cardi went on live and was like, look. Well, I'm glad she did that because I just, it's like that to me. I'm ready to see Nikki and Cardi work together. I don't think that's ever going to happen. Why not? I just don't see it. Because it resulted to physical violence. So, and it, it's, they just were very, very disrespectful to each other.

I mean, that happens, though. You know, I mean, it's, it's, yeah, it happens. We, it was a time. I think that, you know, they're both mothers now. And, you know, I think that they've moved on away from that type of energy. I think now it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, me but for looking at it, I think it's the perfect time for them two to get together

and create and just show people like, yo, that shit is, you know, we way beyond that shit. I don't know either of them personally, but just judging by the personalities that they both give to the world. You know, Nikki personally. She told you to sit on a broom in. Strangers could say that to me. Okay, yeah. I'll never

pretend like me having a few conversations with somebody means I know them and their personality or anything like that. But the energy they've given to the world as far as their personalities, I see both of them saying, nah, I'm not doing it. Like, both of them would stand on that hill of fuck the other one. Sometimes it takes one person that'll stand on hill and say, fuck it. And another person's like, come on, man, I don't really care.

That kind of takes that person off the hill. They're both going to stay on the hill. It's going to take someone they both respect to like make them do it type of shit. And I feel like both of them think I don't need the other one. It's not about needing. They don't need, Cardi and Nikki don't need anything. Of course not. You know what I mean?

I just think that it just sets a tone and it, you know, because nobody's bigger than the culture and bigger than music. Yeah. So I just think that it sets the tone and it puts a different energy out there. Like, you know what I mean? Yes, everybody knows the history and know what happened and all of that type of stuff. But, you know, even through that, we can become bigger people and move forward and create dope shit and be an example to up-and-coming female emcees.

Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Like, you don't have to, I don't think that it was so much there to where it has to be, you know, forever. Like, nah, I'm not fucking. I would never create anything with her. I would never work with her. I just don't think that. I don't know.

Maybe be some real personal shit behind the scenes that I don't know about, but from what I do know, I don't think that it's anything past, you know, that went to the point where they can never work again, is what I'm saying. It sucks because motorsport was a really good song. And I was a good song. As a fan, I really wanted them to, like, be in the video. Is that one, Nicky said watch your man. You should watch your mouth. Yeah. I really wanted them to.

make that video like together and be in the same spot and like have like both of their energies. Like that would have been amazing. And it sucks that us as the fans didn't get it. But, you know, that's their personal strife. And I also feel like Nikki, rightfully so is like, all right, yeah, no, you are one of the hottest period right now. But look at my track record. Like, we're not even in regards to our entire career. So now it looks like we're the same if I do this.

Right. But that's not true though because she's on song. It's all perception. It's all perception. But I'm saying because no one was comparing Corle Ray and Nicky. Yeah. That was just like, oh, this is a new young artist that I like. Let me get on the record.

People are now comparing Cardi and Nikki as if they are the same. And Nikki, I think, rightfully so. Feels like, no, I've been in this game for a very, very long time. Like I'm legend status. I know Cardi is one of the hottest right now. And rightfully so is great. Cardi's legend. Cardi's had the greatest first album success

Any rap of all time I think there's a different I think there's a much different level in legend when it comes to Nikki and Cardi and it's not a slight on Cardi at all it's just Nikki has been around forever and changed so much that we see directly today

to where Cardi succeeded based off of what Nikki did throughout her career and that's not to take away the hard work from Cardi and all that both their fans base to scare me I love everyone. Well, listen, I do salute to Cardi

because that's a great look for K. Flock. Yeah. Shout out to K. Flock and prayers to him and his family. He's going through, you know, his case right now. Shout out to the Bronx. And shout out to Nikki and Favio, because that record is hard. Favio's album is coming in April.

You guys excited? Okay, no, not excited. Not excited. I'm going to listen. What are you guys expecting? I'm expecting Favio energy. I'm expecting him to give a summer Anthem.

Yeah. I'm expecting, I'm expecting we'll have one of those on this project a new summer anthem. You're gonna dance

with your gun and kick your foot up? No, I'm a taxpaying citizen. I don't, I can't do those type of things anymore. Maybe a legal firearm.

Maybe, yeah. In a certain zone. Yeah. I think we're gonna get some more substance out of Fabio. I think he saw the feedback from Donda.

I think he sees the feedback from the Alicia Keys and Kanye record where, you know, it's not all Brooklyn violence

content. So I think we're going to get a lot more out of Fabio on that sound. So we can finally get off of this whole Chris, Chris Smith, I call it, I'm going to call it Chris Smith. This whole Chris Smith debacle. While Chris Rock wanted to leave Los Angeles,

Doby Theater immediately on Sunday night, Will Smith apparently wanted to stay. According to TMZ, Smith was asked to leave by two Academy officials. David Rubin, the president of the academy, and Dawn Hudson, the CEO, who were furious at Smith for smacking Rock on live television. There was reportedly a lot of,

of yelling and heated conversations backstage with Smith's reps, Smith's reps after the incident. As one source put it, the Academy officials were apoplectic. I don't know what that means. A lot of words. They were pissed. They were pissed off. The Academy issued a letter on Wednesday, March 30th, announcing their Board of Governors,

has begun disciplinary proceedings on Smith for violating their standards of conduct. Consequently, his first Oscar could be stripped from him. I think it probably will Or they're trying to see if this shit will blow over And it's not really blowing over Yeah I mean You know I don't want to keep talking about that I said what I said about it

I still feel the same way I felt when it happened And like I said it was unfortunate Because it overshadowed You know his first Oscar win A great movie in King Richard And now I'm saying people Yeah Questlove

Also Samuel Jackson He received an award that night From Denzel Washington A lot happened. Yeah, a lot happened, but obviously that overshadowed all of that. And I'm seeing a lot of people bringing up the old interviews of Chris Rock, you know, explaining that he is, he was diagnosed with some form of. Lower form of Asperger's. Asperger's the exact.

He's on the autism spectrum. He's on the autism spectrum. You know, these are things that I knew when this happened. I didn't, you know, I didn't want to make it a part of it. Yeah, but, you know, so it's unfortunate, man. You know, it's unfortunate that Chris Rock had to deal with that. But again, I think Chris Rock is a soldier. I think that congrats to his ticket sales are through the roof now on the tour.

I think that he's going to have an amazing 45 to an hour bit about the whole thing. We came out in Boston and said, it just happened. I got shit right now. Yeah. I also wrote a whole bunch of stuff already. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, you know, it's just good that he is going to turn that and keep it on what I think.

And I felt like he was trying to do, which is just make people laugh. Yeah. You know what I mean? So prayers to Chris Rock And prayers to the Smiths, man Because I'm pretty sure Will is sick about this shit I don't think Will Smith is a bad person

Or anything like that He just made a mistake And it was a bad mistake And it shouldn't have happened But you know It is what it is Hopefully they can move on And talk as men

And you know Settling at the Rock Nation brunch Maybe not at the Rock Nation brunch But somewhere You can sit down and you know Sit down alone And talk about it And move past it

But yeah Tony Rocks at his own He was talking like whack, bingo car. Yeah, I mean, can't be mad at him, man. You know, that's a brother doing what a brother is supposed to do. You know what I mean? So it is what it is. But yeah, man, I think that's everything for this week.

I don't know what new music is coming out. Gibbs and Rick Ross tonight or today if you're listening to it. Rick Ross is such a fucking character, man. I'm so happy Rick Ross is doing like these podcasts and these shows and these clips He's hilarious. Showing his personality. I never knew that he had so much personality and was so fucking funny. Ross is hilarious.

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