New Rory & MAL - Episode 55 | "Make Me"

Episode Date: April 5, 2022

Starting this week off with the exclusive festival recap, Rory comes in and lets us know how his weekend in North Carolina went. They discuss Dreamville's Gangsta Grillz mixtape, the festival, as well... as who is the next one up from that crew. He details his struggle in finding a last minute hotel, and tells his unexpected NC love story. Mal tells us of his weekend in Philly, and the guys discuss how having a show together gives people a hard time separating them as individuals. Discussion then turns to the Grammy Awards, but first they debate whether Lil Nas X is trolling for marketing. They then discuss Grammy nominations and winners, giving well deserved flowers, and giving their differing opinions on some of the winners and categories. Rory hates on everyone who ever met Andre 3000 and Nas, and they reminisce on old, nasty La Marina days from a decade ago. Kanye drops out of Coachella in real time during recording, and the team tries to find a quick replacement. They also discuss taxidermy, give opinions on which artists they believe live their lyrics, hip-hop culture conspiracy theories, + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:50 Shut up, make me. I love them, but to say make me. I call you big heads. Shut up Make me I'm a sucker for Make me Are we recording this? Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:02 Make me Alright On my way I'm on my way to make you right now Make me Oh man Get rid of your attitude Make me
Starting point is 00:02:16 We used to get some nasty shit off back in What? Make me was my Upper teenage Because make me It's just mature For fuck me It's exactly
Starting point is 00:02:25 It's not even mature It's just Make me All right I'm on my way. I've gotten to make me off before. You said make me? You definitely have said that to a girl.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Oh, have some integrity. Where is your fucking pride? Because I'm doing it in a funny, sarcastic way to get her to laugh, but I'm seriously saying, hey, you can fucking me. I know, that's why you're nasty. Because you're serious. You want her to really make you. Smut me out, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Hey. Do you still be making out a girl? What? My fucking goat's, Are you asking? Yeah, like the freshman dance makeout. I'm talking about like, like, you just met them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:07 That's y'all shi, y'all back. That's a white boy bad. For sure. Y'all make out in the bar with chicks y'all just met. I mean, if shit, at Dreamville Fest, if a girl would have liked me, I would have done it over the fucking J.I.D. set. Oh, yeah, no. Making out over J.D. Dirty sneakers?
Starting point is 00:03:22 How could you not? I'm sure there was a girl in that crowd. That might be true. Imagine just being to side stage and jidlook over and you just. sucking face with a girl like, man, what are you doing? Yeah, like, this ain't even that type of like, this ain't even that. Wait for Ari said.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah. For those of you that do not know, this is the new Rory and Moll show. This is Rory. I am all. Welcome to another experience. This is your first time. This shit gets out of hand quick, but it's okay. We find the trail and we end where we want to end.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Eventually, we get to our destination. And Moll's not gay. And I'm not gay. Love gay people. If he was, it'd be fine. It'd be totally fine, but I'm just not gay. How was DreamGo Fest? It was great.
Starting point is 00:04:03 It was great. I had some work to do, but I did have fun. I did really enjoy it. I think I industryed pretty well. Good. I definitely industryed pretty well. What do you mean by that? It was peak small talk, but all small talk had some type of purpose and some type of substance
Starting point is 00:04:21 and didn't end with, yeah, hit me, man, let's work. I'm not mad at small talk if it actually leads to. or something. Yeah. You know what I mean? And small talk with the right people is necessary in the moment. You know why it was Dreamville was cool and not industry outside of that crew just not being industry?
Starting point is 00:04:40 It's in North Carolina. And if you look at the lineup too, you have to actually give a fuck about music, whether you work in the business or not, to fly to Raleigh, North Carolina for that specific lineup. Like it's a different type of crowd, even in the backstage industry, small talk world. I entertained the thought of coming down there for about 30 minutes. And I checked flights. I was checking hotels.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And then I was like, do I really want to go to Raleigh right now? Like last minute, pack a bag, catch a flight. I had your credentials ready. I had your artist's best. I know everything. I know everything was set up and ready once I arrived. But it was just everything leading up to like, actually leaving and heading to the airport.
Starting point is 00:05:29 It was like, uh... They did a shopper party? Like, I think you would have had a good time. No, I'm pretty sure I would have, but it's just, I should have been more prepared. And it was, it was a bunch of women that like lyrics. Yeah, no, I saw a lot of videos. It was great.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I saw a lot of videos from down there. The lineup was dope. I saw your video, I saw Wayne was there. I thought that was pretty dope. The goat. Yeah, I thought that was pretty dope. Your fave could never. Your fave could never do skies the limit at a festival
Starting point is 00:05:53 because it's only his song. Yeah. It's not his record, but okay, I get it. But that was dope to see Wayne there. That's like a real, real iconic, you know. It's not many artists that are as respected and goaded as Wayne. And we'll get to the- So for him to still fuck with the festival, J. Cole, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:15 that shows his love and respect for Dreamville. Love and his respect for drama. Because it was the gangster grill set with him, T.I. and G. And we'll get to the Grammy shit and all that, but. drama putting together that set at a festival in Raleigh it's not like the shit was in L.A. It was like a Miami shit where people love to go anyway.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Like GZ, be like, I'll bring my wife. It'll be great. Yeah, like it's in a location that is not so appealing. And then to win a Grammy for a Gangsta Grills album with Tyler the Creator while you're on stage with Wayne, T.I. and GZ to celebrate Gangsta Grills, I thought it was like the illest moment ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I don't know why like more people aren't talking about that. That's nuts. Yeah, I thought that was pretty dope to see that. That was like, okay. Dreamville is, they really, like, are really doing this festival shit the right way. Yeah, but it was a really good time. And they put out an album. The album is dope.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah. Can I be phony? You got 30 seconds. Okay. Because, of course, I was chumming it up, hugging everyone. That's so good to see. Oh, y'all are my favorite label. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I hate myself. You got to do that. I like the Gangsta Grills' Dreams. Dreamville stuff, but a lot of it did kind of feel like, oh, maybe some of these are extras from when they did that wild rap camp in Atlanta and invited everybody. Some of it felt like it was there. Yeah, I mean. I could like tell the difference between like the boss and Ferg record. I'm like, oh yeah, they just did this.
Starting point is 00:07:42 This feels new. And some of the other stuff was like, all right, this was on a hard drive. Which I'm not mad at. I love that they did it around the festival and drama. Like the idea was ill. And they probably put it together pretty quickly. So there's going to be throwways. I think it seems it's starting to just over this project and, you know, other things that they've been doing leading up to Dreamville Fest.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It seems like they're now like pushing boss a little more like they're starting to put the light on him. Like it's his turn now. Yeah. And definitely Cole is given the support music wise with that. Because I think that that Jackie record, it worked my own New York. I didn't really travel to go to parties to hear it anywhere else. But in New York, that shit worked. him Cole and TJ
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yeah Yeah no I really fuck with Boss And they had He was all over Cole's album singing and shit Something like fucking James Fonteroy I was like what Boss could sing like this He's super talented
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah that's my guy Super talented artist So I like the fact that it does Look and feel like They're pushing him Like more into the spotlight now It's funny to watch Dreamville being in North Carolina Of course I know Cole was from there
Starting point is 00:08:46 But all of Dreamville is really Jay Cole and the borough of Queens Yeah Dreamville had every hotel lobby looking like the Coliseum block. I was running. I was like, this is hysterical. Like everyone in Riley I know is confused as fuck.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I'm like, wait, Dreamville, ain't they from Fayetteville or some shit? It's like, nah, dog. Everybody went to St. John's. Cole obviously went to school. He went to St. John's out in Queens. He spent a lot of his time here in New York City. A lot of his friends and his crew, staff. I mean, Ebe is his manager and president of Dreamgo.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah. It's all from Jamaica. Well, yeah, I had a really good time. Got some work done. Made some music. slept on Fante's floor. It's fun. As you should, that's what a festival is all about.
Starting point is 00:09:28 You got to sleep on the floor. Fuck Hotel Tonight. Fuck Hotel Tonight. Listen. Why's that? Because Hotel Tonight was like my main bitch. Yeah, but you're kind of crazy for going to somewhere where it's a festival in a small city and trying to find your luck on hotel tonight.
Starting point is 00:09:45 No, Hotel Tonight now you can book in advance. I booked it a week in advance for a hotel, right? Oh, okay. This is different. And I'm on level. I'm such a hoe. I'm on like level 30. Yeah, you're a platinum member.
Starting point is 00:09:55 For sure. Yeah. So I get there and they're like, oh, yeah. We told Hotel tonight like a week ago that there was no rooms and we canceled your reservation. Like, you don't have a room. And I'm like, what? No. And I took a 6 a.m. flight. I get to the shit at 8 a.m. I hadn't slept.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I was like, cool. I could get some hours and just lay the fuck down before I go to this festival. They're like, I mean, you could wait in the lobby. So you had to wait for a room? So, you know, a squeaky whale gets the grease and I got a my Karen shit and everything. Of course. So they're like, we can get you a room for tomorrow night,
Starting point is 00:10:28 but tonight there's literally no rooms at all. But we'll honor your reservation and you don't have to pay for shit because clearly this is fucked up. You just landed in a city and you don't have a place to go. And it's a festival where every last hotel is sold out. Right. So I'm like, I bet. I'll thug it out and try to find some random shit.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Like, oh, there's something right next door. I was like, all right, cool. They didn't tell me it was a fucking actual crack house. Oh, they had you in the trap. They sent me to extended stays of America Oh yeah those are those Those were the dope deals go down at All the truckers here
Starting point is 00:11:01 They trade off the dope They drop the cargo effort It's hourly hookers in that bitch Oh absolutely I got my fucking keys And they sent me to like the back one It wasn't even like the one in the front No no no your room is in the back
Starting point is 00:11:15 It smelled like actual human shit When I got over there I was like oh okay Somebody's just shit here Yeah yeah I'm on the second floor shit and I get to the staircase, of course there's an empty shopping cart there. Why wouldn't there be? Yeah, it has to be. I get into that room. When that, I say that shit smell like
Starting point is 00:11:32 cigarettes and latex, I was like, bro, I will sleep on the festival grounds. I'm a sleep in Jaro's trailer. That's the smell of them wrapping the bricks, you know, in the rooms. You smell in the sarah wrap. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I was thinking condoms, but, you know, I figured you were there. I smelled the latex. I was like, oh, Ma must stay in this room. Whenever you smell latex, that was my room. Smelling latex and thinking of mall is fucking hysterical.
Starting point is 00:12:00 In its own right, like, why are you thinking about me when you smell latex? Oh, that's funny. So you had to stay in the extended stay for a night. And thank God, Ari, bless her fucking soul. Let me put all my stuff in her room. And I ended up just going to Fonte's to work on shit and stayed up all night. So it was like, I didn't even need this crackhead room. That's part of, but that's, you know, this.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Did you get your money back? Yeah, I got refunded for everything. Well, that's good. I mean, at least you didn't pay for that experience. That was on the house. My man. That terrible crack house experience was on the house. My man, Kyle, a preem son, he lives in North Carolina, so he pulled up on me in the first day.
Starting point is 00:12:38 He's like, y'amma just, I'm going to park at your hotel just so I, you know, there's never going to be parking at the festival. I dropped him a pin. He pulled back. He said, my shit will be on cylinder blocks. If I leave my fucking car here. You can't park at those type of motels. I'm not part no. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You got to take your shit to more, like, well-lit area, more traffic, foot traffic. Like, extended stays is too dark back there. Nobody's really going over there. Niggas is looking out their window, like, oh, this car been here for eight hours. There's time to go get that. So next door to the nice hotel, the second day, they had, like, just some Caribbean spot. And you know, North Carolina can't walk anywhere. And it was like, oh, all right, that's the one thing I can walk to get food.
Starting point is 00:13:18 So I sat down, that's when that picture on Twitter and all that shit happened, but that's not what I talk about. this large, large fucking gentleman sits next to me. He's like, his spot taken? I'm like, no, go ahead. He's like, I followed a girl in here, man, and I lost her. I'm like, this is a pretty big restaurant, but you just followed a girl into this restaurant.
Starting point is 00:13:37 He's like, yeah, he ordered a fucking margarita just to kill time to see if she'd like come out of the bathroom or something. She's like, man, she's the one, bro. Like, I could just tell, so I followed her in here. I was like, what if she was going to meet, like, her husband? Yeah. Like, did you do any research? He's like, no, that's why I came in here.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And we ended up having just a funny, deep conversation about soulmates and all that other bullshit. And I'm on stage for the gangster grill shit. And T.I. is about to come on. And I feel this fucking big-ass dude like over me. You know, you just feel somebody. And he tapped me. And I turn around. He smiled.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I'm like, oh, you're T.I's bodyguard from the restaurant? Oh, my gosh. Only you would meet a guy that stalked the woman into a restaurant. Had a great conversation with him about life and emotions over a margarita And then come to find out he's doing security for the guy that invented the word trap Only you, Rory. This is only the experience that you would have. And now no longer uses four-letter words.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, no. Only 16-letter words. This is only your experience. Trapicillin. Whatever the fuck he was in. Definitely the only person that had this type of experience at Dreamville. But he, because I thought it was creepy when he originally said, like, I followed a woman in here. Then I got to know him and he was like really just looking for love.
Starting point is 00:14:54 He wasn't creepy even though it sounded that way. Like we had a nice mom. I was like, oh, all right. So my question is, who was securing TI when he was stalking this young lady over a margarita? Like, where was Tia? But here's the thing. We had such a good conversation over Saviom Blanc and margaritas and fucking drama was playing music in the background. I see him.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And we hugged. It was like, oh, shit. Maybe we were the soulmates. I was just about to say like that. Maybe he was looking for me. You know, what's wrong with you, man? It was, I felt, it was a, I felt safe in his arms. No, well, I'm glad you felt safe.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I'm glad that he brought some sunshine to your, which started off as a terrible experience for you. And it seems like you and this, did you get his name? What is the, no, I want to just call him the bodyguard. It's funny. I was going to ask his name, but I was like, maybe it's better off that I just never know. Yeah, because sometimes that's how you find true love. You don't ask for the name.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You just enjoy the experience in the moment. And I, this is weird observation. You're going to judge me. I totally understand now why women love, like, tall guys that are big. I felt so safe in his arms. I now understand why women go to that. Yeah. I mean, he probably felt that you needed a comforter and, you know, some type of security in your life at the moment.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Maybe. So God just put him, you know. Amen. Maybe that was an angel. He followed into the restaurant and then he found a angel that needed somebody, a soul that needed more healing. He wasn't projecting. Maybe he was just trying to tell me about my inner soul. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I'm happy for you, man. I'm glad you experienced that love and that affection from a random six, seven black man. But then I sat there when he left. I was like, damn, I didn't come in here for love. I just came in here for some jerk chicken and some wine. Like maybe I'm an empty person. Maybe I should have had purpose in going into this.
Starting point is 00:16:42 So then I hit on the bartender, but it didn't work. Did you all perform? He performed. Him to Shanti performed. And that was, you know what I want to say? Of course we give Ashanti her flowers. I heard T-Pain had a great set too, by the way. I watched it on the TV thing.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I wasn't at the actual festival at that time because I was shooting with drama. But Ashanti, when she first came out, it was always kind of like, oh, she's dope, but she's not like a vocalist. She can sing, but she can't like sing, sing from that era. Watching her perform in 2022, I'm like, these young whispering chicks can't hold a fucking candle to Ashanti's vocals. Like, we were wrong. She was just in an era where everyone was fucking
Starting point is 00:17:26 like singing, singing, singing type of shit. Well, yeah. And it was... Her vocals compared to this new era of R&B, which I love. Ashanti is smoking these holes. Well, back in the early 2000s, the hip hop with the, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:43 the pretty girl in the hook, that was like the cheat code. But it wasn't really for vocal like performance. It was more so just the melody, the look with the video, have a pretty girl. Terrence Howard.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it was like, just have like a pretty girl that has a nice voice. Biggie sample and we're out of here. That's it. It's a cheat code.
Starting point is 00:18:07 You know what I mean? It worked. Full is still one of the fucking greatest records of my teenager. No, listen, Ashanti and Jaru, as they've displayed on verses, they have a,
Starting point is 00:18:15 they have a very, very extensive catalog. Yeah. And they are legends by not, it's not an accident. I mean, like, they deserve to be legends in the game. Who else was there, though, as far as, like, any other guests that we might not have known. That was random?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Not really. I mean, the lineup in itself was already great. So, yeah, I don't remember any pop-up shit in that regard, but it was. And a shout to call again, because for his set, he brought out every last person on Dreamville and got that look on the main stage, but he was on it or not. And they all did rapper hands together. It was beautiful. even Ari was up there giving a rapper hands I was trying to coach her after
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm like no you can't especially if you're gonna be next to Earth game you gotta be like maybe get one of these Yeah yeah yeah You gotta from side to side You gotta give a couple of it Yeah she's just like
Starting point is 00:19:03 Did she get a set? Yeah she was on the main stage She went on right before Cole Her set was incredible And her she has an all female band Like that's fire Yeah It was just a good festival man
Starting point is 00:19:15 I'm gonna make sure I go next year I'm gonna definitely make sure I plan to go next year Because I do want to experience it I love with Jay Cole is doing. He's like the humble superstar who looks like every day is laundry day. I love it.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You know what I mean? That's how I want to do it. Like I don't want to get dressed up and nothing shit. Like I want to be comfortable surrounded by my crew, people that I fuck with, that I love, that I support and just get into the bag. Yeah. You know what I mean? So yeah, I'm going to make sure I go next year.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Shout out to Raleigh, North Carolina. Shout out to Dreamville. All of the artists that touch the stage. Shout out to all of the people that supported the event, the festival. sounds like it was another win another great weekend for sure
Starting point is 00:19:54 and I don't think and I want to make this like a fucking cold dick riding segment I love cold dick writing but if you from an exact standpoint I ignored it
Starting point is 00:20:04 I ignored it he's married with children I didn't mean literally I like Cole's music I'm a Cole fan you was talking about Wiz Khalifa's dick but I can't ride Cole's dick
Starting point is 00:20:14 I wasn't talk see y'all be trying to make me gay so bad in the edits I'm not gay She didn't spin a narrative. That's really what happened. I said that Wiz Khalifa was posting videos of him working out showing his dick print. I'm reporting what's happening.
Starting point is 00:20:29 That doesn't make me gay. I'm reporting what Wiz Khalifa's doing on his days off. Okay, but the things you choose to report. I follow him. What do you want me to do? It's on my timeline. The people you choose to follow and the content they create. Whiz is a great artist.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Who you want me to do? How was Wiz's set? Did you see his? No, I didn't see it. You didn't see it. A Wiz was that Dreamfield? Yeah. Oh, was he?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yes, he was. He performed. See, I didn't know that. That's what I didn't either. Come on, Roe. You're not reporting the shit. I was trying to go see Wiz Kid. That's what the hose were.
Starting point is 00:20:59 That's where the Holmes were. Oh, yeah. So it was some shit going on down there. Damn, whiz was. Wow. Yeah. Wale said it was great. Walee?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah, Wale was really good. I got a talk. I heard his excuse for being late. Somebody called me was like, yo, listen, I love Walee, but why is he on stage telling people that he was late because he was getting his hair done? Walee.
Starting point is 00:21:19 His hair look great. Wale, I love you. I love you. You can't tell a fucking crowd full of people that you're late for your show because you were getting your hair done. That's not hip hop, bro. No, that's very much hip-hop now.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That's actually very hip-hop. I was getting my hair done. You think Snoop ain't pulled that before? Say the cops pulled you over. That's hip-hop. Say the police pulled you over and searched your vehicle, had the dogs on you.
Starting point is 00:21:42 If you think Snoop wasn't late for performance because he was getting a pressing curl. But he wouldn't say it, though. Maybe that's the reason. Snoop has never. got on stage and say, y'all, I was late because I was getting this texturizing this relaxing putting my hair. Listen, he was-
Starting point is 00:21:54 Snoop has never said that. He was 1,000% late to the next episode video. With that perm? He may have been. No, listen, he may have been. He may have sweated out and had to go back. He may be true. He didn't say it.
Starting point is 00:22:07 That's my only thing. You was getting your head twisted. Whatever, cool, great. But you can't tell a crowd of waiting people. Beautiful pink sweater. Yeah, but you can't. Well, Lale has a large female audience, and I feel, especially black female audience. and they probably identify with him in that moment.
Starting point is 00:22:20 He connected. They don't want to hear that shit, though. Not from no black man. Why? I'm late because I was getting my hair done. Okay, but when someone... Nica, we've been standing out here since 10 in the morning. Okay, but when someone says something about someone else not having hair, it's a fucking problem.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So what can anyone do? Yeah, but... Did you release? Are you okay? You shit yourself? I just saw that coming from my way. This episode is just... I am kind of looking forward to the next year. though.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Yeah. Because I think that... You can... Plain in time to get your hair done? Yeah. You've had braids? I've got a year. You've been late to some live shows, I think, because you was getting your hair braided?
Starting point is 00:22:57 No. It was between shorty's legs? We didn't... We didn't have a live show when I had braids. That you're lying on. Wait. You've never sat between the girls' leg and got your hair braider? Not, not between their legs.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I sat in her chair. She has a chair that shot. I mean, I've... So you're saying never in life have you ever sat between a girl's legs and got your hair braided? I just... I only had braids for a few months during the pandemic, first time of my life. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Who braided them, though? My home girl out in Queens, Camilla. And so you were sitting in a chair? Yeah, she has a chair at a shot. Okay. Yeah. Not like on her stairs. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And you were on the lower one. The best braids. No, no, no. She has a shot. I don't know. One of you kept your hat on. I was in it. You had chair braids.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You need to step braids. Nah, she's, Camilla. She definitely did a thing. But I just can't, that braid shit. I can't keep up with that shit. That shit was just way too much. But yeah, man, I'm definitely looking forward to next year. to, I want to experience Dreamville
Starting point is 00:23:47 Fest. I want to just call it Dreamville. I don't want to say Dreamville Fest. Dream Fest. Yeah, or Dream Fest. A Dream Festival. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to say Dreamville Festival. I don't want to say that. You had, from a distance, you kind of had the festival in a frenzy. From a distance? Yeah. Did I? Your presence was known. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:05 I thought people was coming up. Yo, I'm like, oh, I'm ill. Yo, what up? What up? What up? What up? Well, flick it? Oh, you want to flip? Yeah, where's mall at? I don't know what you're Oh that's it Yeah but it's the same for me
Starting point is 00:24:20 People see me somewhere I went to So Friday I went to I went down to Philly to the Snow Legra show Because I was I was missed her
Starting point is 00:24:27 When she was here at Radio City Me too I was type I was mad I missed it And I've never seen Snow perform live So I saw that She was in Philly
Starting point is 00:24:34 So I hit her up I was like I'm coming to the show I've never seen you live Just casually hit snow up real quick Yeah I hit snow up until I was coming to the show
Starting point is 00:24:43 And so I went down to Philly Check the show amazing show. She's amazing live. Super dope. She looked great, sounds great. The crowd was amazing. Swindolo?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah, went down there by myself. Real quick ride down the turnpike. Nothing crazy. Who drove? I had a car service. Hit up snow to go to the show in a car service. Money. Ride down the turnpike.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Meanwhile, I am in the extended state of America fighting for my fucking life and more is in car service. Yeah. They feel bad on that side now, huh? See how the table's turn whiteboard? Usually it's the niggas that got to go through that shit Nah niggas got luxury now Nicky yeah
Starting point is 00:25:20 Rid this car drive me to Philly and back sir Yeah so I went down to Philly Saw the Snow Allegra show She killed it Amazing job But it was the same thing I was there sitting down And you know people coming through saying what's up
Starting point is 00:25:33 And asking where's Rory I'm like yo y'all know that we don't have to like Always be together It's the Red Man Method man thing at this point now For sure Yeah but speaking of songs Oh red man method You know what?
Starting point is 00:25:47 This is your last day here, too, now that I think about it. I think it's my last day. I think I'm done after this. This is my last episode, guys. Yeah, man, but yeah, Philly was great. Snow Show was great. She was nominated too for a Grammy.
Starting point is 00:26:01 So shout out to her in her nomination. She looked great last night. Yeah. Oh, Kaylani was great. Just thinking of songsters that was at the festival. Oh, I love Kayline. Oh, yeah. So she brought a security guard on stage that she had heard singing backstage.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And I guess she loved his voice. and she gave him a couple of seconds on her set to perform, which I thought was dope. I like seeing shit like that. Like when the artist, they see somebody that's working at the festival, and they're like, yo, I heard this security guard singing backstage. Like, he had a great voice. And then now put them on the stage, like he's on the stage with his security uniform.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I thought that was pretty dope for Kalani to do that. Did he sound good? He sounded good. This is North Carolina. You know, a lot of them dudes grew up in the church. You know, they're singing for real down there. So he had, he sounded great. He sounded great.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Yeah, that said was good. I thought she forgot about our beef She clearly didn't Um Oh Really? No, we good now Okay
Starting point is 00:26:51 Alright Yeah, because I thought She did She did run up on me to say Oh, should we fight on stage? Oh man I was like Kailani know we love her
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yeah, that's I just thought she forgot about that entire thing A hundred percent Woot my ass And look great doing it Yeah, for sure She's in shape I guess we could segue
Starting point is 00:27:09 Segway into Grammys then Do people care about the Grammys? You know what I'm so confused, Rory, right? Because I feel like, you know, we always have this thing. People say, we're boycotting. We're boycotting. And, you know, they told Kanye he couldn't come.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Fuck the Grammys and that, da, da. And then the day of the Grammys, everybody shows up looking amazing and happy and everybody supporting. And it's like, well, wait, I thought we all agree that as a culture since they told Kanye he couldn't come because of his antics on social media, which has nothing to do with the Grammys. But like, I thought that we agreed that it was fuck the Grammys. I think just Jay Prince said that
Starting point is 00:27:46 And no one replied But we just thought Because Jay Prince said it We should all go do that shit More people said They was fuck the Grammys I think Puff came out And said it
Starting point is 00:27:56 It was a few other people That said You know Kanye is bigger than the Grammys So you know I mean I thought that it was Fuck the Grammys
Starting point is 00:28:04 And then next thing I know Everybody's watching it Everybody's at the Grammys Everybody's wearing their You know best I didn't see a single frame of it So It was some
Starting point is 00:28:13 It was some really good. Jack Harlow, his suit, his performance, that suit he out on was fly. I thought he looked great on stage with Little Nas X. That suit he out on was dope. I like Jack Harlow. Wiz's Dick Prince,
Starting point is 00:28:25 Jack Harlow and Little Nas X. I'm just, listen, I'm breadcrumbs. I'm just fine on the breadcrumbs. I said that Jack Harlow's suit was dope. Stop back. Men can compliment his shoulders real nice. With Lil Nas X, though. I mean, I didn't say Little Nas X look great.
Starting point is 00:28:39 That would have been something for you to raise your brow at. No, because he did look great, and you're allowed to say that. Little Knows X look great. Yeah. I'm not with... He has amazing skin. He's a handsome guy that dresses well.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I'm not saying he's not. I just didn't... I don't think the belly top was like... Wasn't it wasn't for you? It's just not me. Like, I just wouldn't look at the belly top. The midriff wasn't for you? Huh?
Starting point is 00:29:00 The midriff wasn't for you? Yeah, it's just not... You know what I mean? Like, you could have... You can be working out in the gym, but you ain't got to wear the midriff shirt. It's okay. When Wizz does it, though.
Starting point is 00:29:08 When he works out. When he works out. When he wears midriff shirts. He does? Oh, come on, Wiz. You can't wear middrift shirts and be working out in your underwear, bro. We have no idea if you wear the midriff shirts than that.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Oh, see, don't do that to whiz. And you can't hang out with Crips and do that. Yeah, you probably shouldn't. But whatever, it's a new world we live in, man. I don't know what the rules are anymore. GZ had on an orange bandana. I was like, listen, man, I don't know what gang culture is. I'm just going to sit over here and enjoy the show.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Well, I'm pretty sure his wife probably helped him with that. It was like, you can wear still have the bandana look. Let's go to orange. It's great on your skin. And he had the, Miami Dolphins joint with the orange trim. I got it. It just threw me off with the lighting. It looked like a red rag.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah, but no, if he had the dolphins, he had a Dolphins jersey on? Oh, he had to wear the orange bandana at that point. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, come on. The fuck is I going to say about the gramis? Anyone else think Lil Nas X, like maybe, are we allowed to say this? We're joking. He really might not be gay.
Starting point is 00:30:06 He's the greatest troll. He knows how to work the Internet better than any human being. ever seen in my entire life. That motherfucker is a marketing genius. But what makes you say that he may not be gay? Because he understands the internet. And he's the greatest marketer ever. I feel like we talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But if he's not, if he's not gay, and people find out that he's not gay and he used that as a tool. But how are they going to find out? I mean, people find out everything. It's full for that. How are you going to find out? If you catch him with a woman, he could just say he's bisexual. Like, there's nothing. Well, yeah, no, that true.
Starting point is 00:30:39 But when I'm saying, like, if they find out that all of the. this was a part of his plan and that he never was really gay. I don't think Future has ever taken drugs. Like, I just think some people are really good at marketing themselves. No, that is true. And two things can be true. But he's doing a hell of a job at that gay shit? Yeah, he's knocking his gay shit out the park.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Like, he's gay and very well. Like, I saw Little Knaz-X. I saw Little Naz-X at L-A-X. That's a lot of X, but I saw Little Naz-X at L-A-X. And he had a security with him, and he was walking. And let me be the first to tell you that Little Nazex is gay. You could just tell by the strut. His feet did not touch the ground.
Starting point is 00:31:18 He floated to gate 72. He was floating to the Delta Sky Club. Like, I was just like, and he's a lot taller than I expected. Okay. I didn't know Little Nile. I mean, well, he had heels on. He had like, he'll boots on. Were you pleasantly surprised?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Not pleasantly, but I was like, damn, I was like, Nazex, this little, he's not a little kid. Like, you think little Nizx, you expect a little cute kid to come out and start rapping. That's big Nizzex. I'm not going to call him big Nas X, but he's taller than I expected him to be. And he had heels on, so that added to it. But he's definitely, if he's not gay, he's a hell of a fucking actor. He'll be at the Oscars in no time.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Little Nas X being your big bro. He was a little. He was a Nicki Minaj, the auntie account before he became famous. I'm not telling someone with their sexuality is. I am joking. I just think he's really fucking good at the internet. And it would just be funny as fuck to me. And I think he has that type of sense of humor where he'll just come out in 10 years.
Starting point is 00:32:11 be like, y'all thought I was sucking dick? I love women. Yeah, I thought I was sucking dick. Not that he's sucking a dick, he's probably getting his dick sucked by. Oh, he's probably got the gays on a lot. Yeah, for sure. His grinder account is nutty, I'm sure. No pun intended.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah, he got the, you know he got the hose. I saw Jack at LAX and I was like, wow, he's tall. Jack Harlow? So we had a similar experience with those two. Yeah. Well, I don't know what experience you had with Jack Harlow. I just saw. I was sitting in the lounge with Ari and.
Starting point is 00:32:41 some tall gentleman with big sunglasses, his hood up, and a mask, started approaching us like he was like on some fucking diehard. I'm taking over the airport. Everyone get the fuck down and came over and was like, it's Jack. Oh, hey. I would have been like Jack who. That's exactly what I said. I was like, who's Jack?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Okay. I thought he was some creepy Ari Lennox fan that was like trying to run down on her. Yeah. And he was like, it's Jack. Oh, I see the curls now. Got it. Got it. Got it.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Okay. Yeah, Little Nas X is definitely a lot taller than I expected. Shout out to Jack Harlow and Little Nas X. Yeah, that performance was great. Little Nas X is obviously super talented. We'll put it this way. I think both them got the hoes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Whatever your definition of what a ho is to you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Respectfully, and I mean that in a positive way? They got them. They got them. If you're looking for um and whatever your um is, either Jack got him or Little Nas X got him. For sure.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I'm with you on that. The Grammys, though. Unless we could talk about the Grammys. So the Grammys were last night. First of all, shout out to all the nominees that were there. And the nominees that weren't there, it's always an honor to be, you know, nominated for your skill and your talent. And especially at the highest stage of the Academy Awards. But there was some surprises as far as I'm concerned.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I would be tight, though, if I'm a new artist and I've dreamt my whole life of getting nominated for a Grammy. and then I get nominated and then everyone's like yeah we're about to boycott this shit I'm like yeah y'all are boycotting because y'all got a bunch of Grammys yeah it's easy for you to boycott got 75 and them bitches in your house
Starting point is 00:34:22 yeah I'm going to get mine for sure imagine you getting nominated and then that year everyone's like we're not doing this shit you're like fuck yeah can we wait one more year it was like it was like it was like you know
Starting point is 00:34:32 people try to act like this isn't a big big deal and this doesn't mean you know whatever she was like but it is you know what I mean it is a big deal it is and it's an honor the privilege to stand up there.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Receiving an award is something that I'm pretty sure every recording artist has dreamt about. But I think that when you're actually in the room and you win and it hits you like, holy shit, this is the moment that I've always thought about in the studio recording album, songs, touring, performing, and now this moment is here. Like even when Jasmine won her award, she kind of was like stuck. She was sitting down. Everybody was clapping looking at her and she was like, oh shit. This is for real.
Starting point is 00:35:11 This is me. Like this I won. You know what I mean? I mean, I can at least, I know the feeling that Doja Cat is talking about because I have been nominated for an ambi. So like I totally understand like that level of success and like what it means to you when you finally reach that plateau. It means a lot.
Starting point is 00:35:26 It's the same ambique, it's all the same shit. Yeah. One of the same. Pick this, the same statue. Do we want to run through some of the categories? Do people give a fuck about that? Let's run through them real quick. Record of the year.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Silk Sonic. I wasn't mad at that. I mean, I love Leave the Door Open. I wasn't the biggest fan of that album, but leave the door open is fucking incredible. The biggest, I'm not sure if it was the biggest, but it was definitely top two biggest songs that year. I assume they were going to clean up because they're making, quote unquote, urban music so the Grammys can look cool. And they're too safe artists. And they're like real musicians at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So I figured out they're just going to win everything. Even if they're not even nominated, just be like, oh, silk, here you go. Yeah. Why are we here? Album of the year. I loved what Anderson Pack said. I didn't tell you, I didn't see anything.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Anderson Pack, so when they won, was out record of the year, he went up there and was like, yo, you know, I'm trying real hard to remain humble right now. They probably had won two or three at this time. And he said, but this is called a clean sweep. I like it. Talk your shit.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I mean, you know. Talk your shit. Listen, man. Love Anderson Peky on sitting in your seat. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like, you know, we're trying to remain humble and have fun tonight, but, you know. Enjoy your participation award. Yeah, you peasants.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Enjoy your little gift bags. Right? Ooh, I'm sure the after party will be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But shout out to Silk Sonic, though. They definitely had an amazing album, and that song was probably the song of the year. Yeah. Album of the year, John Baptiste, we are.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Listen, I mean, I've seen the video, you know, I've heard the music. I'm not a huge fan or anything like that. I do recognize he's obviously talented in the musician and everything like that. But I think that the Grammys also used that the awards to kind of like push the artist that they like, okay. For sure. They love him, love her. Let's push them out there. Let's get that.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And he's a black man, so I'm moving for him. Hey, happy for him. And I'm looking at this. These are really what would be nominated for? problem of the year? There's good albums on here. I just felt like there was more stuff. What the fuck do I know? Song of the year,
Starting point is 00:37:48 leave the door open, cleaned up. I was shocked her fight for you was in Song of the Year and not damage. Yeah. That was odd to me. Damage, damage, lead the door open. I told y'all when I went to the Doja Cat concert July 4th. Doja Cat won half of these awards.
Starting point is 00:38:06 That Kiss Me More record has me and my feeling. I will sing at the top of my lungs in my career to that record. Kiss Me More is the perfect song. When you're in a department store shopping, looking for clothes, you definitely find yourself picking up the shirts and the jeans, checking the waist out singing Kiss Me More. For sure. It's a very vulnerable time in your life as a man when Kiss Me More comes on in the store
Starting point is 00:38:28 and you're looking for jeans because you just find yourself just singing. I mean, I have PTSD of H&M dressing rooms because of that record. Yeah. Don't mind me. I have not slept yet everyone. Everyone bear with me today. Best new artist, Olivia Rodrigo. Cool.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Shout out to Kean for getting nominated that. And shout out to Sweetie. That's big. Best new artist to get nominated that way. Best pop. I don't care about best pop. Solo performance. Did you care about the traditional pop folk album?
Starting point is 00:39:00 No, I actually didn't. It's a lot of categories that I could care less about. I was just trying to see if Jasmine Sullivan was going to win, which she did. Congrats to Jasmine. and Silk Sonic. I don't like that they tied for best R&B performance, though. I hate that. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And how was that even possible? Has there ever been, how many ties have there been in Grammy? Listen, I don't know how many people are on the committee. I don't know none of that shit. If I was driving on that, I'd ask for a recal. Yeah, it has to be like, no, we got to get a winner. We cannot have it tied. Well, that's because you're a Trump fan.
Starting point is 00:39:32 You think all results as far as counting when you lose. Those mailing ballots for the Grammys are ridiculous. Like, what are we doing here? Like, there's three people that live in. this house. Why are there 15 ballots coming from it? Let's it, bro. Clintons were behind it. If you think about it.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Honestly, I think Pennsylvania was the reason why Her did not win. I believe they need a recount in Pennsylvania. Her should have definitely won that award without it up. A shout out to Snow and her for being nominated in that as well. Best R&B song, leave the door open. R&B album, we just talked. Jasmine Sullivan fucking well-deserved. By far, to me, the best R&B album of that year.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I didn't even hear Liam Bridges. gold digger sound. Is he an industry plant? Just because you never heard of him? No, no, no. I fuck with Leon Bridges. I just hadn't heard this album. I have some suspicions,
Starting point is 00:40:21 if that's a word, that he's a little plantish. He does have a little green thumbs. I think those A&Rs heard him sing. He was in a regular ass t-shirt, whatever. They heard his tone and voice say, yo, put a fedore on that guy and let's dress him out of the 50s. No, Leon, I mean, his album, I've heard his album.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I fuck Leon Bridgett & John. Yeah, I fuck with him. I don't think he's a plant, though. Best rap performance, Baby Keem, Kendrick Lamar. Shout to them. You were tight. My life, Jay Cole, 21 Savage and Moray didn't win. Yeah, I think that it's a better, a better song, way better song.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Does Farrah Mottian, Stiles P. Get to share that Grammy if they win? Because that's a, I mean. It's a sample. Yeah. It's a state record. Yeah, it is. I'm pretty sure they would have got a great meet for that.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Best rap song, jail, Jayze and Kanye West. You seem like you weren't too happy about that. That was the best. It's a good record. Nothing against the record. Out of that category, which one would you have voted for for rap song of the year? Or was it rap performance or rap song? Read the nominees.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Baf salts, which was DMX, Nas, JZ from X's album. They have their actual real name. names here, not their artist shit. So, best friend, I don't know who that is. Oh, sweetie and dojicat. I think that's a better record than jail. Call me crazy. Best friend, sweetie and dojicat is better than Jayzee and Kanye West jail.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I know hip-hop nerds, you're going to crucify me tomorrow. Best friend is a better record than jail. That's my best friend. And that's the song is on your phone. The song, you think. Rory's ringtone on your phone. Yeah. Is that my Bessie and a tessie?
Starting point is 00:42:09 Wait, let's rewind a second. Your ringtone is... No. Okay. No, I was saying... It was... You missed the joke. I said, when Rory calls you, that's what plays.
Starting point is 00:42:18 On my phone... See? I'm not a real bad bitch. No. Not at all. Far from it. I was a pretty good impression of it, I felt. She's a real bad bitch.
Starting point is 00:42:30 That was a bitch. Why? I got a... I got a... Because she has an accent on the hook. Yeah, but you have put like an Irish. Some Irish stank on it. I don't know. Some Irish stank on the best...
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yo, the Irish... Celtic version, the Celtic remix of Best Friend. Oh, my God. Listen. In my life, I think my life should have won. It's a way better song than Jail. Yep. But, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Best rap album, well-deserved, I think, Tyler Crater, DJ Drama. Yeah. Call me if you get lost. If it went to Coe, I wouldn't have been mad. I know CLBT was a classic, but I wouldn't have picked it out of those two. And Donna was great. I wouldn't have been mad if he went to Donna. you said i said c lb was a classic
Starting point is 00:43:14 and my story oh okay you did say that did i no i said classic when we reviewed it i don't know if you said classic said it was a good album i never said classic
Starting point is 00:43:25 you still play it certain songs over the year mm-hmm absolutely i mean it's straight you're gonna find some songs on this project that you're gonna keep playing but does that make it a good album I think these days
Starting point is 00:43:36 if you have an album with like 16 songs and you keep going back to six or something Seven, that's a good album. Because a lot of niggas, you're only going to play two songs from the album, make a playlist, and you're going to never hear the rest of that album again. So if you go back to six or seven song from somebody's project, that's a good album, for sure. It is kind of funny, though, last year for Grammys that it was such a fucking underground
Starting point is 00:43:59 rap album category. It's like, look, it's changing. The shit, it was like, yo, just give me the top five biggest rap artists. We'll just take those. Yeah. Yeah, that shit went out the door quick. Of course. We thought the, we thought the Grammys was headed somewhere where it was like, okay, they're going to
Starting point is 00:44:12 start recognizing real rap. But to be fair, these others. Tyler did it. To be fair, all these albums are good. And Tyler probably definitely deserved that. Hell yeah. Yeah, that album was great. Do you guys feel like Doja Cat was snubbed in a lot of these?
Starting point is 00:44:31 Did she get any? She got, no. Yeah, she won. The only thing she won was for Kiss Me More. I feel like the presence of Doja Cat over the last year warrants winning a couple of those. Like, you could not get rid of Doja Cat compared to these people that beat her. They had their moment when it happened.
Starting point is 00:44:48 You could not escape Doja Cat. It's amazing just to see Doja Cat's growth. Like, you know, when she had the bitch on a Cal record, I kind of was like, all right, what is happening? Didn't know. And then I started, like, listening to more of her songs and shit. I'm like, oh, no, she's. Oh, you can rap.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yeah, like, she's, actually, she's talented. Like, this isn't some troll shit. Like, this is, she's really dope. They were dragging. They were dragging Remy because Remy came, Remy said that, um, Doja wasn't a rapper. That Dogey is not a rapper? Well, she's an artist.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah, she does all the shit, but she can rap. She's a rapper. She can rap. And that's, you know, that's another thing. You know, people get into this thing of what's, who's really rapping. Who really had a rap album? Because I've seen a lot of people saying that Tyler's album is not, shouldn't be considered rap.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And I'm like, it's a fucking gangster grills. Yeah. I'm like, I just don't know what y'all are listening to or, you know. I felt that way about Igor. I thought Igor should have been. been fuck a rap category. It should have been an album of the year. And they had them in Best Rap Album.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I think that album's a classic. It just didn't belong in a rap album because it's not a rap album. No. But this one, if you don't think that's a rap album, called me to get home. I don't know what to tell you, though. Go back and listen to Hieroglyphics. It's all subjective.
Starting point is 00:46:01 People are going to take from it, whatever they take from it. But I don't think that the Grammys missed the mark in any of these categories. It could have went maybe to another artist. but it's not like you're mad that it went to that artist. If you feel like Doja should have won some other categories, maybe, but the person who did win in some of those other categories had a great project and great record as well. Oh, yeah, definitely. It was just that she wasn't that, not that she didn't want, she wasn't nominated.
Starting point is 00:46:29 And a lot of these rap categories, she was in a lot of these pop categories, she wasn't nominated. And I don't think that it's fair that she gets snubbed for making pop music because they don't like to give pop to people of color. Because if they put those in there with pop, well, let's be very clear. Doja Cat isn't going anywhere. She'll be at plenty of Grammy Awards.
Starting point is 00:46:49 She'll be on stage performing. She's just one of those artists that you can tell is going to have a very long and successful career in music. She just has that personality and that star appeal. Yeah, for sure. She's not going nowhere. So, yeah, maybe this year didn't go as some of her fans would have hoped as far as nominations, but she ain't going nowhere.
Starting point is 00:47:08 She'll be back. What's her hive called? I'm part of it. I just don't know what we're called. I would look to look that up. The cats. I'm a cat. The kittens.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah, I'm a kitten. Oh, cow. It is the kittens. It is? With a Z. Kittens with a Z. Oh, make it fun. You are a kitten with a Z.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah, you definitely. If I saw you just sitting at that bar in the restaurant drinking Osama on Black, like, look at this kitten. That's what's that security guard saw me. He saw a homeless kitten. He just wanted to give you a home. He's trained to protect and saw someone vulnerable sitting there. He just wanted to give it a home and some love and some milk. I get it.
Starting point is 00:47:42 it. Nurse me back to health. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand. And release me out to the wild. Yeah, you're a kitten. Mom, what hives are you a part of? What hives? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I don't know. I'm a, I'm a whole vinger. Like, I guess OVO. I don't know. You're a barb? He's been a barb. Oh, yeah. I'm a barb.
Starting point is 00:48:06 They call me a bar. They call me a lot of things, De Maris. I just listen to people and support good music. I don't. I shouldn't be in a hive because I, like, I think if you're in a hive, that means like you have, like, posters on your wall or, like, you stand outside of, like, hotels screaming at the window hoping that they just show you a hand. Like, I've never done any of those things for anybody.
Starting point is 00:48:27 You wouldn't do it for Michael? If Michael was still alive, you wouldn't be a... For Michael Jackson? I would definitely stand outside Michael's hotel screaming. For Michael Jackson? Are you kidding me? This is Michael Jackson. I'm out there with you know what's blanket?
Starting point is 00:48:38 Yeah, like, are you kidding? Michael Jackson? Yes. If the niggas be like, yo, Mike's staying right there. I'm like, where? I'm going to look at that. I'm like, yo, no, Mike got it. He got to come outside and say, he got a holl at a nigger.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Mike got to holl out of nigger. Mike got to come outside holl at a nigger. He had to check in with you? For sure. Not check in. That's Michael Jackson. No one does talk about how ill it was that he wrapped blanket in a blanket. No, they just talk about how he dangled his child over a balcony railing that you just a little weird.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Like, why are you doing that? We don't need to see your baby's feet hanging over the rail. We thought you value kids too much. To be fair, like men don't know how to handle their children, like how to hold baby. You ever see a man with a baby and you get nervous, like get their head and hold their neck. Yeah, man, we hold babies like like a ripped grocery bag. Like, you know what I'm saying? We hold it like it's about the fall and it's like and everybody's like, yo, we like, I got him here.
Starting point is 00:49:31 You know what I'm saying? Instead of getting a new bag, you just trying not to have shit spilled. Yeah, like Apple about to roll out. Yeah, we definitely hold babies like ripped grocery bags. But, you know, they're safe with us, man. And we never remember that babies' necks and heads just you kind of have to support them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Every time we hold a kid. That's what I meant, yeah, we shouldn't be allowed to hold babies until they could sit up. Like, we shouldn't be allowed to hold babies until they could sit up. Because if you let us, you give us a baby and it ain't got no bones in his neck yet, it's like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:58 That baby all over the fucking place, man. You holding that baby like a scarf. Every one of my friends has had kids, family members every time. Do you want to hold him or? Nope. I don't want this responsibility. Yeah. If I'm dropping a baby, it better be mine.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I hold kids. I hold a baby, but I have to be, like, sitting down on the couch. It has to be a very safe environment. Yeah. Because kids do this thing with a buck, like they jump. They buck. And it's like, little, nigga, what you're doing? Like, you're about to fall off of this fucking couch.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Like, you know what I'm saying? You better sit your ass still. Listen, too much responsibility. Yeah. Hold another people's kids. Well, shout out to the Grammys. Shout out to all the winners and the nominees. Shout out to Noss performance.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah. I have to actually watch it. I saw the headlines. sounded great. Nause is almost 50 and he looks like he's still 25 years old. It's your last day. So he did his thing. Shout out to Nause and he was nominated
Starting point is 00:50:52 for King's Disease 2. Shout out to Hit Boy. He was nominated. I don't know if they didn't, he didn't win though. No. King's Disease 2 was for wrap out. Yeah, because I saw his, I saw he was being funny. I saw his caption and said, The People's Champion when he didn't look.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Listen, listen. He's the people's the people's champion. Hit Boy is definitely the people's champ and he'll be nominated for a bunch of shit of getting next to him, I'm sure. We know God, God gives the strongest battles to his strongest soldiers. Yeah, hit boy, I think he'll be all right.
Starting point is 00:51:21 He's prepared. I do want to highlight Carrie Underwood. Okay. I didn't even, you know, I know Carrie Underwood, if I remember, she started with American Idol. Yeah, I think that's accurate.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Is she still married to Tony Romo, I believe? I thought Tony Romo was married to Jessica. Simpson. And they say all black people look alike. See? You can't tell a difference between Carrie Underwood and Jessica Simpson. All blonde women look alike. That may be true.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I think Carrie Underwood is married to Tony Romo. No, she's married to Mike Fisher. Was she married to Tony Romo before? With Jessica Simpson? Was it a thruple? I'm almost sure. Listen, I haven't been married to Mike Fisher since 2010. They did date in 2007, though.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Her and Tony Romo? Yes. Okay, see, so I know I wasn't. I wasn't tripping. And Jessica Simpson, right? Middle school. Jessica Simpson never, well, we don't know. Let's not get nobody caught up.
Starting point is 00:52:15 She may have dated Tony Romo. Damn, who know? I ain't know. Roma had him like that. Jessica Simpson's married to Diana Ross's son, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:52:23 The Lyskin boy from ATO. I still had hope for her in Nicholshe. I believe his name is Evan. Yeah. Evan Ross. And Jessica and Tony dated for a year and a half. See? Don't question my Romo dating history.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Come on, man. I know. Oh, no. We're all off. But Carrie Underwood performed last night. She looked amazing. She's been, she has not missed leg day. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I don't think in the last 17 years. She had on the dress. She looked amazing. She sounded amazing. Yeah, no, objectify her some more. No, no, she looked amazing. I mean, I was just watching the Grammys and she hit the stage and came out in this dress. And she knew what she was doing when she put that dress on.
Starting point is 00:52:58 She knew the highlight the legs. She knew. She put the right heels on. She had the right. It didn't look like Shea Butter because she's a white woman. So I don't think it was Shea Butter. it might have been like more of a Luberderm.
Starting point is 00:53:12 It was not luberderm. It was Vaseline. I can promise you it wasn't Vaseline. It looked like it was some type of body butter. She looks like she has an array of body butter in her bathroom. But the legs were moisturized. They were toned. They were cut up.
Starting point is 00:53:28 She had the right heels on. She looks great. Carriona will look great. She sounded great, but she definitely looked great. Do you have a foot fetish ball? Yeah. Do I have a foot? No, I mean, I couldn't see her feet.
Starting point is 00:53:38 So, no, I didn't say anything about her feet. I said her legs. But that's what she was fantasizing about. Some of them heels. Listen, she had on her dress and she was staying. The legs were out. How the knees look? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:53:49 All right. I was going to watch. Carrie Underwood is not skipping leg day. Like, I'm telling her she's not skipping leg day. She's in the gym working on legs if she's not working on anything else. So yeah, shout out to Carrie on Underwood. I was mad looking at my Instagram because I didn't watch the show. But remember when everyone but me got to meet Andre 3000 in Soho?
Starting point is 00:54:07 Yeah, I met him in front. front of the Victoria Secret Store. Of course you did. Everyone besides me has met Andre 2000. I'm starting to feel that way about Nas now. That everyone has met Nas? Mad people with Nas last night. I was like, the fuck.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Why are you just got to go to Sweet Chick? He's right there. Which one? This is your last night. Which one? I just want to know which I know he owns them. You're going to have plenty of time to find out. Don't you worry.
Starting point is 00:54:30 You're going to be able to hit every time. You're going to hit every sweet chick in America. You're going to find you going to have enough time. Don't you worry. I was looking at my phone, hating. I'm like, wait, she gets to hang out with Nas? Ooh, hey, eh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:44 You want to hang out with Esco? She can't quote every song on It Was Written. Yeah. You don't deserve that selfie. Nas is, I feel like, I don't, I'm not going to say he's accessible, but I feel like you could see Nas if you're just walking around Manhattan. Yeah. Kind of like Fab, at La Marina.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I don't know if it's like that. I wouldn't really, yeah. I don't know if it's really out like that. You didn't even go just see Nas just at La Marina and nothing like that. But, yeah, Nas is, he's not somebody. It's definitely harder to bump into Andre 3000 than it is, Nas. Shit, he was running around Soho for three years, meeting with everybody. I definitely saw him in front of Victoria Seekin.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I was just like, he's just standing here, like, you're not Andre 3000, bro? And he was just like, yeah, man, what's up, bro? It's like, yo, peace, man. That's me. Yeah, I was like, yo, peace, man. I get it, just in the middle of 34th Street. It is I. You was definitely a La Marina with Fab.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I've actually never been to La Marina. Oh, you've never ever? Never. Wow, what a time. La Marina was definitely a... Yeah, y'all was in there. Y'all was... I was running around Brooklyn at that time, everybody was running around uptown.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I heard a funny hove story about La Marina, bingo card. I forgot who it brought him up there. To La Marina? Yeah, quietly. Like, no one... He wanted to check it out. It was the hottest shit at the time. Quietly went up there.
Starting point is 00:56:04 This could all be a lot. I don't know. It was just secondhand information. Mm-hmm. And this was, La Marine had just opened, fake asses was on the rise. They still hadn't quite figured out proportion yet. They were still putting, like, what you line bathtubs with in people's legs and cheeks. Cork and shit, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah. So, Hove was looking around and said to the individual that told me this, looking at all these women with fake asses and all this shit. Because, you know, Hove didn't come up in the era of that stuff. Don't ever say, y'all liked it. He was so confused. It's like, wait, y'all like these women on purpose? I don't know how true that is, but that sounds like.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Like some shit, he was there. Like, on purpose, y'all? Like, wait, wait, wait. This is what y'all on right now? Y'all like you. She can't even stand up straight. La Marena was a great time, though, man. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Just where it was at, you know, uptown Dykeman in that neighborhood right on the water. I just think that it was just getting in and out as far as parking and driving down that block. Death trap. Yeah, I think that it was just a little, you know, it caused a bit of a, it was too much traffic for that neighborhood. that wasn't really feeling at. I used to think, because, you know, when you go to certain venues and you see what type of time is over there, you just have to have an exit strategy just for your own safety precautions. Every time it was at Lomarine, I'm like, this is a dead end.
Starting point is 00:57:22 If something happened, there's only one way out away from the shots. The water? I got to jump with the water. Yeah. I have to jump in the Hudson to safely get away from this venue if some shit goes down. But it was definitely a great idea. Like being able to have that right there, you have half sand, half concrete. You know, if you wanted to get the sand, a day party vibe.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I had the little beds. That was like the VIP Tables. So nasty. Those cabanas were... Yeah. I mean, I understand what they were trying to do, but I used to always just tell my homies, I'm like, we are still uptown on Dykemen. Like, this is still the hood.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Like, I don't get a fuck how much water and saying y'all put over here. Like, niggas are selling dimes right down the block. No, in here. And they're getting killed two blocks over. Like, it's treacherous outside of these gates. Those little mattresses in the cabanas were nastier than the mattresses at extended state of America and running North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. I think I caught a tug on one of those mattresses quietly. At La Marina? Yeah, nice little tugged. How did they shut that place down? They had to sanitize it? Yeah, of course. You're out there getting tugged?
Starting point is 00:58:22 What are you doing? I mean, the whole place is covered in semen. Well, that is very true. I had to make my mark. Kanye West drops out of Coachella. No Travis Scott either. Still got emotional oranges. Look, now you got to,
Starting point is 00:58:39 what you're going to do, Roy? There's more time. It's more time on stage. We're main stage now. Yeah, you gotta be the natural people to replace that. If Kanye's out, E.O. is in. Yeah. That's the progression for me, I think.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Agreed. But who is going to replace Kanye? Who's going to... Last minute, like the... Who's going to... And Travis. Because those headliners, they take, like, three, four, five months
Starting point is 00:59:01 to put together that Coachella show. Yeah. That shit isn't two weeks. Two weeks, yeah. I mean, it's going to be tough. You got to find someone that's on tour, right? a huge artist that's already on tour where you can literally just take their set
Starting point is 00:59:13 from the arena and, like, it'll just throw it on the Coachella stage. No rehearsals because you're already on tour. I mean, if you have Kanye out and no Travis, these are two of the better performers, better artists. I mean, do they call Drake? It's the only thing I could think of.
Starting point is 00:59:32 But Dr. Is she already performing? Yeah. Well, no, no. She already did Coachella, though. Okay. But if Drake's going to headline Coachella, I know he's going to want to do it the Drake way and make it a whole moment.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I can... Calling Drake's phone right now? Yo, can you perform in two weeks as a Coachella headliner? Get the fuck off my phone. I just don't know where they go. Gain? Jack Harlow.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Jack Harlow. I'm telling y'all what they're going to try to do. I didn't say that he deserves it. To replace Kanye or Travis? Jack would be a big name on for Coachella, but he's not a headliner yet. Eventually, he probably will be. I was something to say,
Starting point is 01:00:08 you told my Kanye. No. Jack Harlow. You're not going to find anybody to replace Kanye. That's our point. Well, it's only one. It's only one. It's only one Kanye.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So, yes, you can't replace Kanye. But you have to kind of, yeah, you have to kind of land somewhere in like holy shitland. Lady Gaga. I don't fucking know. I'm just naming people at this point. It's two weeks.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Nobody's saying yes to this. And it's huge scrutiny because Kanye's not going to be there. So now you're technically replacing Kanye and you have two weeks to replace Kanye. Who the fuck in their right mind he's doing that. Frank Ocean?
Starting point is 01:00:45 He would say no. I wish. No. Yeah, because whoever replaced the same thing, remember when Drake didn't replace Frank Ocean, all the fans were wrong. Frank was never booked. They was pissed,
Starting point is 01:00:56 so I could see all the Kanye fans just going to the headliner like, no, we want, yay. Maybe Tyler? He's on tour now. Okay. But I would have to see if it would work in a schedule. I think Tyler would be a great replacement.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Yeah, I think so. Already has a set together. Doesn't need to rehearse because he's got the show. Yeah, Tyler can make sense. I believe. I think Tyler, or they might just go completely left and maybe give a Silk Sonic. I could see them trying to do that. But then you get a whole Bruno Mars set.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Yeah. I could see Silksona. I would love that. I could see them trying to replace that with Silk Sonic. Give him Bruno a eight ball and he'll get that shit done in two weeks. Yeah, Bruno. Give him some Coke. You know, you know, you know what?
Starting point is 01:01:42 it's funny about that. Everybody has that unanimous thing. Everybody says that about Bruno. Like, as soon as they see Bruno, they'd be like, oh, Bruno got that, he got that foodie, he got that fire coke. And I'm like, why do people just see Bruno Mars? Because there's paperwork. He has just coke, like, in his pocket.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Because there's paperwork that says, yo, he has mad coke in his pocket. And a mugshot to go with it. I think it's the it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, the shirts. I think it's the texture of the garments with the, the chest.
Starting point is 01:02:12 out and the chains and he's a very cokey face though yeah the shades he has a he has a 178 yeah cokey it just comes with he had no choice yeah and it's like he's not doing heroin anymore so it's like okay he's at least he has a lot of money
Starting point is 01:02:28 he has a lot of women cocaine is somewhere in that in that concoction two weeks get a made ball he'll get it done yeah I'm I'm want to see who they're gonna replace Kanye and Travis Scott with a Coachella is
Starting point is 01:02:40 they were available who we're available we weren't nominated for an ambi I mean yeah I think if they tried to
Starting point is 01:02:47 replace Kanye and Travis Scott with Rory and Mall I think that we would get chased out of Coachella I think
Starting point is 01:02:55 they would get pitch forks and fucking knives it would be burning man yeah no I don't want no part of that
Starting point is 01:02:59 I'm cool and it would be funny if like we didn't even give visuals no nothing like literally just set up a chair
Starting point is 01:03:05 and a mic blank screen behind us yo yo you gotta do you can do all we do at LA
Starting point is 01:03:10 Rory and Moore at Coachella yeah at Coachella That's not going That's not going to work I can promise you all that now I don't want no part of that
Starting point is 01:03:18 Are you gonna go to Coachella? Come on I have a confession to make You gotta fuck a dirty bitch in the tent Check that off the list I Bro I really don't like The festival thing
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yeah Like regarding pussy or just like festivals Period No just festivals I love pussy But I've gone to some I've gone to some way more treacherous places For Pussy than Coachella
Starting point is 01:03:42 The South Bronx Trust me I'm just not the festival guy, bro Coachell's definitely not the one if you're not the festival guy Yeah, it's just I'm just not You know, it's too many moving parts It's like, you know, when you find a good spot backstage And where you find itself just staying there for hours
Starting point is 01:04:00 And it's kind of like I could have been home You know what I mean? And it's streaming And the streams look incredible I'm home, bro Like I'm gonna just be honest with you y'all I'm into crib watching this Like you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:04:12 I just I'm not really the festival I love live shows. You know what I'm saying? I love just seeing how songs and shit sound live and how artists, you know, they do their live rendition of a song that I love. I love that part of it. But festivals that are as big as Coachella
Starting point is 01:04:28 were those moving parts and, you know, got to stand here, go back this way. And, you know, the artist village and the VIP and this, that, and the third. And everybody hitting your phone trying to get another band for somebody. It's like, bro, I'm a spectator here. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I have no bands. I have no access to nothing other than what was giving access to me. Like I don't, you know, so I just try to avoid all of that. I don't like doing the fake small talk thing. So I just avoid that shit. So I don't think I'm doing Coachella, bro. And then you feel like a burden. Yeah. It's cool if I go over it. Like, yeah, I'm just not, I'm saying, leave me alone. I'm working. Yeah. Like, I just don't, I don't, I don't like doing that. I don't like doing that. I could, I could smoke this weed and drink water in the crib and watch this and have. And get some pussy. Yeah. And exactly. You know, if I want to take a little
Starting point is 01:05:11 time out of time out of time. I'm sweating all day. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, so I don't know. I mean, I like the fact that Coachella is back and people are back outside and festivals are back and everybody's together and artists can perform and all that in front of their fans. I love that part, but for me, being there, no, I can't do it. Oh, I had an idea.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Cardi B. presents Bochella. Oh. You can put that together in two weeks. But here's the thing. Cardi performed at Coachella, if I'm not mistaken, when she was pregnant. And she hasn't released much music since then. So?
Starting point is 01:05:45 Very true. Still Cardi B. Still so. I was going to say still so because I'm watching regardless. But I think that might be their way of thinking with that. Nikki would be great too. I know we just name a shit at this point. People are probably like, yo, shut the fuck up. But that is fucking crazy to try to replace a headliner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I mean, you would hate it, but. Why do you keep trying to paint this that? I hate Wayne, man. Stop doing it. I love Wayne. I was wait. Listen, every time I go outside, some artist or producer makes a beeline to tell me how much
Starting point is 01:06:15 They hate you. And I was waiting for Wayne when I was on the stage to turn over and be like, hey, fuck, Mo. First of all, what is that voice you just? Is that my Bessie and a Tessie? I love Wayne, man. Y'all just be trying to make it. I think the fact that I don't say Wayne is my favorite ever, if you guys make it seem like I hate Wayne, but I love Wayne, come on.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Yeah. Either way, give us some hot topics, Tamara. What happened in the news? it's trending. Question, do you guys know what taxidermy is? Yeah, that's when they kill animals and they stuff them in and they put them on their mantle. Now let's say... I thought it was the guy that did your taxes.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Wow. That too. Now, let's say you guys passed away, Mall. Let's use you as the example. Where's he going with this? Right. And then to remember you, we do a live show, but then we have you on stage, taxidermy. Would you be okay with that?
Starting point is 01:07:11 No, and I will haunt each and every one of you until you're dying day. so please just put me in. People are doing it. People are propping up their dead loved ones at the parties. Like, you know how they usually do like the photo cutouts like at the ghetto funerals and you go stand next to the photo cutout the life size. Now they just have like the actual person stuffed. I'm conflicted on this one.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Now I feel like if you rent out the club and it's your people, then yeah, we can put a dead body there. It's just, for me, it's just I'm not, it's just a little eerie to see that. Yeah. I don't, yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to see. I understand honoring, you know, the dead and the deceased and, you know, giving them their last, you know, flowers. But I, just seeing a body outside of a casket like that propped up, for me, I'm, that's just not, you know, that's just eerie for me.
Starting point is 01:08:04 It's just a little, I don't, I don't want to see that. Well, I'm telling you guys now, and this is on record, don't put my body in last lap. No, I was thinking that we put your body, no, don't, Put me in a casket. No, I... I thought it would be SOBs. Yeah, I was thinking we take you to like,
Starting point is 01:08:20 you know, SOBs. Yeah, I would like that. We take you to... Definitely last last. The Irish pubs. Pink houses. Let them throw some Guinness on you.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Like... Why you're throwing beer on a dead body? Oh, no, I've seen... You, seeing a body on stage, you know, that was like, for me, that was definitely something
Starting point is 01:08:41 I've never seen before. Yeah. But it's pouring alcohol and a dead. I've seen, there's plenty of videos. I've seen it next to the body. No, no, no. There's videos where they opened the casket and whatever his favorite drink was, champagne, tequila. And I'm just like, my casket, mad, sticky.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah, I'm just like, I don't know if he would want that. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want that. I seen one video where they took the body out the casket, put it on the back of a dude had a motorcycle. They put the body on his back. and the dude drove off down the street with the body hanging. I'm just like, though, I don't know where we going as humans. Like, I'd understand. Everyone greeds differently.
Starting point is 01:09:21 You know, listen, listen, I, you know, I'm not disrespecting. Nobody's deceased relatives and, you know, whatever. I just think that we need to keep things traditional, have the casket, have the ceremony, let's say a few words, let's pray, let's hug each other, let's, you know, and then let's let's let the deceased be deceased and, you know, put them in their final rest in place. I don't think that we need to prop our dead relatives on the back of motorcycles and take them for their last ride around their favorite neighborhood. My last ride was when I was a lot. Yeah, like I just don't.
Starting point is 01:09:52 It was my last ride. Yeah, I'm just, you know, again, you know, if I'm at a funeral and one of my homies died and his cousins decide to take him out the caskin and put him on the motor. Who am I to tell him not to do that? True. You know, that's their cousin. You know, I'm, you know. Okay. Can I say, hey, you shouldn't do that?
Starting point is 01:10:09 I would probably whisper it to like. Hey. I would find the funeral directing, be like, listen, how safe is this what they're doing right now? I mean, well, they can't die again. Yeah, well, they can't die again, but it's still like, okay, so they're going to bring the body back to the casket and put it after they put it on a motorcycle? I feel like if you take a dead body out of a casket, now it's your responsibility. You're responsible that body now. Leave me alone.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Yeah, to me, it's just, you know. That's yours now. I'm just, I don't want to, I don't want to see that. I like what Shorty Lowe family did from, though. They took the casket to the strip club And through a bunch of shit that he loved It was close, I like that was ill to him It was close
Starting point is 01:10:46 The body was still in the casket See, I'm not, you know, those type of things I understand, you know, take him Last ride around the city, you know People come, you know, throw flowers Whatever in the casket, whatever, I understand that Maul where would you want to go on your last ride? My last ride
Starting point is 01:11:03 So your music hall Yeah, where you want us to take you? He left it all on the stage Marla be like, home. Yeah. Listen, put me wherever my body on,
Starting point is 01:11:13 put me in the cemetery. I have this wild theory. How about it? A cemetery. Just like find a nice plot with a nice view of like the hills or whatever, the sunset. Say I was missed and beloved brother.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Listen, man. Put me right there. Give me a nice tombstone. Come see me every now and again to clean my tombstone. Make sure it ain't no weeds and nothing growing on me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:31 And that's it. You ain't got to take me on my casket. As long as there's a Rockefeller set at the repast. Yeah. I'm easy, man. Yeah. That's all. Would you guys want to be converted to a tree?
Starting point is 01:11:39 That's a thing now. Yeah, I've seen that they take the body and they plant it like a soil. And listen, I'm no longer in that body. Like, imagine if Rory was an orange tree. That'd be cool, but like. Oh, it would be super cool. But then, like, you could just chop me down. Like, I'm already dead and you, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Well, you always, you're a tree. You'll always grow up. Yeah, but like, whatever hurricane comes. Yeah, like, would be a peach tree. I'll probably, I'll probably, this is his little. last day here. I'm just thinking, never, ever hear from anything.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I'm just thinking like, yo, I think I can engineer this shit. Like, you just got to hit space bar. Yeah, this is his last day. I can assure, let me assure the listeners and the viewers that this will be his last day here. No, but I think conversations like this, all jokes aside, because a lot of that shit is,
Starting point is 01:12:25 I laugh at dark stuff. But a lot of this is really important. I do need to know what you guys's last wishes are. And you say you want to be buried, none of you guys want to be cremated? I've thought about the cremation. And I've seen people do ill shit with ashes and making diamonds.
Starting point is 01:12:39 and necklaces and rings out the shit. I think that's kind of ill. I saw one video. They were taking the ashes to the ocean and they didn't time to win and they threw the ashes and the wind blew the ashes on everyone. I was like, well, look, now your relatives with you forever. So it's, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:53 look how God works. He's not ready to leave you yet. Remember that rumor that was always around that the outlaws smoked Tupac's ashes in a blunt? Yeah. And that was like, for my whole life, I thought that was like absolutely true and everything. And I forgot. It might even been a flat interview with someone. Someone of the outlaws was like,
Starting point is 01:13:08 Don't know. We didn't smoke our friend. People are, people just make these things. Like, some of these stories just run for years. And you sit back and look. Actually, that might be a good topic one day. We got to really, like, go through all the tales of hip hop history. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And we're like, yo, who started this story and ran with it? Because it didn't sound believable back then. It definitely ain't going to sound believable 20 years later. The Sierra is a man one is, to me, the most offensive. So what was the Sierra was a man? Olivia was a man. was a man. Both beautiful women.
Starting point is 01:13:40 It's like who thought, who really was believing this shit? They're running around saying Megan is a man now. They've been doing that for years. How? Yo, what's right?
Starting point is 01:13:49 And first of all, I think Game made up that Olivia shit. Yeah, he was the one pumping that shit. Like, and now we know Game to be one of the greatest liars and storytellers
Starting point is 01:13:59 and embellishers of the truth that the culture has ever had. No one really believed that. So there's no rap rumors that you guys believe like the one that two pockets alive? Lil Kim got a stomach pump That was a nasty one I remember Just because she was talking about sexual lyrics
Starting point is 01:14:13 Yeah They thought that little Kim had to get her stomach Pump because she had a stomach full of semen That was like a rumor Wait, are you fucking kidding me? That was a dead assed rumor when I was a kid That was a rumor That was a rumor that Chris Brown had AIDS
Starting point is 01:14:25 Oh my God That didn't hit my timeline Yeah, what the fuck? Was it on my space? This is like my space thing? I'm young, I'm very young. Yeah, there was so many dumbass rumors Remember when tropical fantasies like made you not, you couldn't be,
Starting point is 01:14:41 you wouldn't be able to have kids. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the thing they were going to do. Like, yo, you're drinking, my tropical fantasy, you're going to be to have kids. I'm like, I'm 14, bro. I don't, even if that is true, I'm not trying to have kids right now. Like, I don't give a fuck. I'm just laughing at us thinking that our stomachs can digest and process fucking fried chicken,
Starting point is 01:15:01 but semen, your stomach would be like, yo, get this out of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just stupid shit, bro. It was so many stupid rumors. But that's because there were platforms where artists could speak directly to, like, social media. See, that's where social media is helpful. It allows artists to step on shit right away. They see shit taking off by them all this.
Starting point is 01:15:24 I open my Instagram live. Yo, listen, that's bullshit. It's lies. All right, get that out of here immediately. Early 2000s. Early 2000s, yo, listen, whatever they said about you, that's what it is, my nigga. And then any time magic stick came out Yo, I told you, look
Starting point is 01:15:39 No She's still at it, bro Nobody ever believed Olivia was a man Nobody ever believed that Sierra was a man A lot of people believed that Sierra was a man Which I never understood A lot of people believed that How?
Starting point is 01:15:56 How could you look? Because she was in, she had she was cut up She was like, she was in shape You know how stupid that is? Yeah Just think about how dumb that is Like because she's in shape. Any talk, they do that to tall women though.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Whatever, man. It is what it is. So tall, tall thick women too, especially. They do that. Well, in conclusion, matter of fact, at my funeral, get your lies off. Tell the illest story about me that's fake. Oh, my God. That's fake.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Matter of fact, that's what I wanted my funeral. No one go up there and tell the truth. At my funeral. Come up with the illest story ever. I'm scared of like girls that I ghosted. like coming to my funeral and like painting a picture of me that's just like oh man don't come on i wasn't that bad like yeah maybe i should have called you but don't come up here and say oh he was a piece of shit so i don't think they would do that i think family look like they could fight
Starting point is 01:16:50 oh no my family is crazy my family is certified like loony i'm the opposite scares me don't go up there and start telling truth and posting my dms with you and i i was just talking to him please don't do that please do not do that oh i can't wait to post y'all text me i'm sorry Please do not screenshot any DM I've ever sent you. Any text message ever sent you. Please don't do that. Please. I think I'm going to look down at my funeral.
Starting point is 01:17:14 And with the attendees from the women's side, I'm going to kind of feel like, oh, like, look at your body counting here, bro. You are gross. This shit is a graveyard. There's too many women sitting, watching this funeral that know what your dick looks like. See, I know the homies. I know they're going to be looking like, yo, I never even knew mall was fucking with her. Because you know who your man was fucking with at the funeral.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Like, you could tell the way they're grieving. you could be like, yo, more, you know, he used to fuck with her? I know I've done that at a few of my homework, you know, I'm like, I never even knew he was talking to that girl. It's kind of your responsibility as the friend at the funeral
Starting point is 01:17:45 to guide his girl or wife away from the ones. Come on, let's go to the bathroom a quick. I've done that. Like, you got to navigate wifey. You got to keep wifey away from all of the sides. Because emotions running high, side chicks really like you.
Starting point is 01:18:02 They'll confess some shit. Oh, and they'll fight. And they'll feel like I really knew him and I need to tell y'all that. Like, y'all didn't know him like I knew him. A wife, you're like, what the fuck that mean? You know, wife, he's sitting right there like, excuse me? Like, what fuck you mean? I didn't know him like you knew him.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Or a bitch, go up and start making remarks and she look up at the sky and do a little giggle. Like, she got like a little secret memory in her head. Yeah. Her caption was just a little too long on IG. I remember one of my homeboys, God bless he passed away his funeral. That shit got up there. She was like, we had so many great times. So many great times.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Like, oh, my, like, the kind of conversations we had, nobody would talk to me this way. I'm sitting there, like, his girl in the front, I'm like, you dog, somebody get this girl off the podium, please. And be a while, if you looked at their text messages, all he probably said was, L.O.L. You good? He ain't said.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And I'm knowing him. He ain't. No conversations was not deep. This nigga? I'm like, what conversation wasn't deep? He wasn't kicking it with you like that. But today is going to be deep. Oh, no, today at the funeral,
Starting point is 01:19:02 she had to let everybody know. We had a great time. Oh my God, he was the most beautiful person, the way we spoke, the way the things we would talk about for hours. This nigga wasn't talking to you for hours. See, I have a problem with that at a lot of funerals where people would be like, you won't even know him like that or you didn't even know her like that. And it's like you never really know somebody's relationship with another person. That's true. But I feel like if you held it down when I was alive, you still owe me to hold it down in death.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Absolutely. You got to hold it down. Even more. For sure. Even more. Because now I can't, I'm not here no more to even like. not that I give a fuck I'm not here but it's just like you still
Starting point is 01:19:39 got it you still owe me some type of like come on man don't tell anybody about that time in our life shout out to the side joints that really do love their dude so much and would really grieve but because they're so thorough won't even go to the funeral they'll grieve by themselves
Starting point is 01:19:54 or they'll be around the funeral they won't go inside the church they won't go to the repast they won't actually go in the community room with the family it's like they kind of just play the outside and just, you know, won't hug my mom. Yeah, like, no, they keep it very, like, from a distance. Like, I don't know if we spoke about already,
Starting point is 01:20:11 but a good side chick doesn't get the credit she deserves. Of course not. Yeah, we have spoken. We did, right? Yeah, like, good side chicks, they deserve more credit. For sure. The side chicks that respect. Excuse me?
Starting point is 01:20:23 Y'all should pay them more. Nah. Yeah, I don't know if that's... And we've talked about, we do miss the side chicks that was just happy to be here. Like, I'm just happy to fuck. Now it's like a come-up. Yeah. Now I'm going to use this as a way to expose and this is my lick to get somewhere.
Starting point is 01:20:38 But that's men's fault, though, because we definitely have done a great job at blurring the lines between side and Maine. Like, if you start treating the side like the main, she's confused now. She's like, oh, nigga, I thought we was together for real. And we'll kind of just fuck anything. Huh? And we'll kind of just fuck anything. We won't really do like a background check as far as their sanity. Oh, yeah, we're not checking about mental health.
Starting point is 01:21:04 No. I just think we need to screen women a little bit better when we're putting them in situations where they have to hold it down. That's true. Let me give you an interview to see what type of holding down you. Your cable. Absolutely. I agree with you on that. Let's create some scenarios here.
Starting point is 01:21:22 More recording academy news. Shout out to Justice in the entire LVRN family. Those are our people over there. Yeah, shout out to Tune Day and everybody over there LVRN. They were giving a Recording Academy Global Impact Award. Okay. So shout out to LVRN on that award. Well deserves.
Starting point is 01:21:43 That's, yeah, what they're doing over there is super dope, really good people, doing it together as family and friends, you know, just doing it their way. And, you know, it's good to see shit like that. Yeah. Because, you know, I'm saying? A lot of times in this industry, people do things. And, you know, it's kind of like, oh, but you're not really like. Rarely do good people when. Yeah, like they did like exactly.
Starting point is 01:22:04 They're not good people. It's like, whatever. Cool, but these are like really good people. They're really family, really friends, really love and respect each other. Really talented. And they work hard for their artists. So shout out to LVRN on their Global Impact Award. Shame on the Grammys for referring to the late Great Virgil as a hip hop fashion designer is what they.
Starting point is 01:22:24 I don't know what that means. Referred to them has. I, you know, again, they, you know, any chance that people get to box you in to a, you know, a certain category. and I don't want to say, well, yeah, I do want to say kind of lessen your greatness and kind of like, you know, scale it down to just hip hop. It's like, come on, fam. It's creative director for LV. Yes. It's not hip hop fashion designer.
Starting point is 01:22:50 He's a fashion icon. He's a fashion icon. That's it. It's not hip hop. It's fashion. Did I ever tell y'all that push-a-tete came out with who his top three Coke rappers are? I feel like I saw that. We said, him hove and GZ or something?
Starting point is 01:23:07 Push your hove in GZ. Yeah. Jay was first, then push it and GZ. Is Ghost the Coke rapper? He rapped about Coke. But wasn't a kid. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:20 I guess that's fair. Yeah. I mean, I just got to put Ross above Gizzi. I'm sorry. At Coke rapping? Yes. Port of Miami. What do you think they were bringing into the Port of Miami?
Starting point is 01:23:36 Did you think they were bringing in sneakers? Was he the best trapper four years in a row? We don't know if Gizi was the best trapper for you. Can we look at that? Four years running. Can we look that up? Do we know? Do we know if that's a real accolade?
Starting point is 01:23:50 I got to see the actual trophy. Yeah, I have to see it. I had to see it. Everyone that was selling cocaine that year. Yeah. Like, get to get it. Cool. We have to call the list.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Yeah. Glad will figure out. Get the list. Like, we need to know exactly who had the most weight. Who moved the most weight. I mean, like, we need to know. We need to know the things. Ross raps about what you get after you sell the Coke.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Gizi, no, he wrapped up selling it to. Gizi hit the yams in his auntie's house. Who are we going to have a real talk about that? Because that's probably true. I just don't think that the real Noriega owes Ross a thousand favors. I'd just be one to ask, like, rappers, when they say they had, they were making so much money in the streets. Like, I just be one to ask, and you just decided to try rapping?
Starting point is 01:24:36 See, pretty profitable. If I'm touching 20 million in the streets, I'm not thinking about a studio. Are you kidding me? I'm opening dry cleaners, laundry mat, something. We need some street tax returns. Yeah, like I don't know. I need to see what happened. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:51 But that is a good list, though. I'm not mad at whole push-it-in-jee-Z. So what rappers do y'all really think we're really living their raps? Like, we don't got to talk about who we don't think is living our raps, right? Y'all not. Y'all ain't going to hit that ledge. Nobody lives there raps more than these young niggas today. Let me tell you.
Starting point is 01:25:06 That is a fact. When they say they're spinning and drilling and all. Oh, no, they're doing that shit. It's nothing but drilling and spinning going on outside. Yeah, mad sticks. Oh, I get home quick now. I don't fuck around. I don't, I used to, you know, just kind of like, yeah, I used to kind of like just
Starting point is 01:25:17 walk around, you know, uptown and see. Yeah. It's nice outside. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Not going a long way. No, no, no. They spit in and drilling at a enormous rate.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Nobody has lived their raps more than this generation. Well, but I'm talking about you guys' generation and the generation. after. So your generation, Rory and mine generation. What do you think was really? I wouldn't know, but I assume Gizi probably isn't lying that much. Yeah. I mean, Gizi was definitely there. T.I. I don't think it was lying. Yeah. I don't think Gucci may lie. I don't think Gucci is lying. He doesn't have...
Starting point is 01:25:54 It's a documentary. He doesn't have lying eyes. Like, you look in Gucci's eyes and tell he's not lying. Yeah. Matter of fact, I think he's leaving things out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's definitely leaving some things out. It's some things that he's not telling us. Yeah, that would sound... He don't care how good to be there. It's a certain shit he just can't talk about. But yeah, Hove, Gucci, Gizi, Ross, Husha.
Starting point is 01:26:14 I think Ross has lived every... I think Ross would tell you that he was embellishing drastically on a lot of things. According to Ross, he invented cocaine. So you think Ross was embellishing things, but you don't think Jeezy was? I think all of them are embellishing things. It's entertainment. I just think Ross's embellishing is to another degree. Again, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Well, he said he knows the real Noriega. Oh, it's with a thousand favors. Yeah, so. Mad believable. Yeah, I don't, yeah. I just, you know. What's more ridiculous? That or Jada Kisses' bathtub lifting up and his walls doing 360s?
Starting point is 01:26:51 I could definitely see. And having the shit that the government got. I could definitely see Ross knowing the real Noriega before Kisses bathtub lift up. Or that when the coat came in, they had to use the scale that they weigh the whales with. I could see that. I mean, Jada looks like a pretty, you know... Where does one find that weight system at the docks? I'm dying in there.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I'm dying at sea world. I mean, well, that's where it's coming at. It's coming at the dock. So you just tell one of the fishermen, hey, listen, I need that, you know, the thing that you put orca. One of the fishermen. You put arque on last week. I need that same net.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Who's just weighing whales? Why is there a scale that exists? It's just to weigh whales. Because you have to make sure that the whales are healthy. So you have to weigh them, you have to tag them. So put them in a tank. Yeah, absolutely. Make them slaves.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Exactly. Make them splash children. that fucking Waterworld, whatever they call. Waterworld. Waterworld is fucking up layer. Are you going to SeaWorld when you're in San Diego? You said what? Are you going to go to SeaWorld when you're in San Diego?
Starting point is 01:27:48 I went to San Diego already. She went to San Diego. I was in San Diego. Jamaica's the next. When you called me at 8 a.m. New York time, I was in San Diego. It was urgent. No, I get it.
Starting point is 01:28:01 It's the same time that my hotel. You are homeless. I get it. You are homeless in North Carolina. I get it. I totally understand. Shout out to Lucky Day. He won Best Progressive Army album for Table for Two.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Oh, yes. Yes, he did. A album that, we spoke about that was underrated. For sure. Shout out to Lucky Day on that. And he has an amazing album on that. I'm sure he'll win a Grammy for this album that he has out of it. I think he lives his raps.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Lucky? Yeah. Yeah. I think he liked these girls. I think he'd be liking these bitches. I mean, I got to stop saying that word. Yes, they're women. We're trying to be progressive.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I was actually going to ask you. you think Jasmine lived hotels? Absolutely. She said she did. She said it in her acceptance speech. She said, oh, you know, I lived my 20s and, you know, I decided to write about it. Said, oh, look at Jasmine trying to heal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Trying to heal from her whole ways. Listen, man. She looked great, though. She looked great last night. Yeah, Jasmine looked great. She looked amazing. She's so pretty. Yeah, she looked great.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Yeah, I don't know. I think that's pretty much it, man. Now I'll be thinking about Coke rappers all day. Why? You want to... You want to rap? You're trying to... I think 50 lived his rhymes.
Starting point is 01:29:14 50? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. You definitely lived his rhymes. Yeah. Some of the things probably, you know, just for some entertainment, he had to add a few things in. I don't think M was lying either.
Starting point is 01:29:28 I don't think M was lying. Do you really think he was trying to write... Oh, no. Eminem was really using popping pills. Yeah. I don't know if he was doing coke. He was doing pills. I mean, I think it was a parent that he was popping pills. He's an entire album called Recovery.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Yeah, absolutely. He was definitely using pills. It ain't no fake in his funk. Didn't he do that? It was the Grammys or VMAs or whatever when he went up. He won an award and he was like pretending like take the speech piece of paper out of his pocket. And mad pills fell out. That was pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:29:56 That's like really not funny. It's pretty sad. But, you know. Well, now in retrospect, now that he's sober. He was crying out for help. At the time, it was like, wait. Is that an accident? No, he was crying out for help.
Starting point is 01:30:05 He was like, look. I'm a pillhead. I'm a pillhead. Help me. I don't want to die. I think Bruno Mars probably lives. His rhymes too. And definitely the weekend, too. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:30:16 For sure. Yo, did you know Belly wrote Blinded by the Lights? Yeah. I saw Belly when we went L.A. Went to his studio. He has a new studio, the whole new setup. Amazing. He's doing a whole bunch of shit.
Starting point is 01:30:28 He wants to, like, give people creatives, like, a space to come through and just create a bunch of rooms, podcasting rooms, pre-production rooms, all kind of shit, right? Amazing job. Shout out to Belly, my guy, my brother. And he's sitting in. He's like, we having conversation. He just threw that in the conversation. I was like, well, wait.
Starting point is 01:30:47 I know Belly has wrote a bunch of records for and with the weekend. I know that. I had no idea that he wrote Blind About Elect. And it's the biggest streaming song ever in streaming like history. I didn't know that, but that doesn't make sense. I said, bro, you need to put on a fucking t-shirt or a hoodie every day for the next two years that says, I wrote the biggest streaming song ever. Just that on the hoodie.
Starting point is 01:31:07 And just walk around. I mean judging by his house. Why put it on a hoodie? I'm like, I'm like, dog. You don't need the t-shirt. He got the crew. No, I'm just saying, like, you need to go in public and just staying somewhere with that on your t-shirt. Like, do you know how crazy that?
Starting point is 01:31:20 Like, we having conversation smoke and your homie just drops that on you? Like, yeah, no, I wrote the biggest streaming song ever Blind About the Lights. But yeah, I'm going to put this over here. I'm like, wait, slow down, Bella. This little number. Yeah, I'm like, wait, you don't just throw that out there. Like, you wrote the biggest. Jazzy little tune.
Starting point is 01:31:35 That was, I mean, again, I know. I'm very clear on Belly's pen, one of the greatest pens in the industry. We know that. But I didn't know he wrote that record. Yeah, man. Shout out to Belly. Shout out to the weekend. Shout out to the whole X-O family.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Yeah, man. So I don't know. If you got anything else to add, I'm going to go to you. You look like you need some sleep. You had a wild weekend. Yeah, I was, I just went to Philly for a couple hours, came right back. See, that's how you got in and out. In and out, right?
Starting point is 01:32:00 That's how you got to do things, man. Just just hit Snow in the text, yo. I'm into town. Now, she was great, man. Snow. She killed that. She looked great. I mean, your city.
Starting point is 01:32:09 She sounded great. You definitely had snow without I'm in your city. I did not tell snow. First of all, that's not her city, number one. I'm going to your city. That's not her city. I said, snow, I missed the New York show, but I'm coming to Philly. She said, great, amazing.
Starting point is 01:32:23 See you soon. And did you tell her eyes at higher? Like, I didn't mention you. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. Sorry, man. I dropped the ball in that one. Listen, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Just chatting up your name the whole time. You got them all out. You got them all. No, me, I mean... That's so nasty. It's funny, I was just talking with Moore about this. Don't say that at conversation. Don't say you was just talking to me.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Your Ma was just saying to me. No, no, no. Don't do that, man. But yeah, shout out to Snow. She's on tour. Check the tour date. She may be in your city soon. And she's doing...
Starting point is 01:32:56 She's doing Coachella as well. Okay. So, yeah, man, you don't have anything else to add. No? We'll see the people in a few days. We'll talk to her in a few days. Be safe. I'm that
Starting point is 01:33:08 your ginger Are you still ginger? Because you went to North Carolina You might be like Strawberry blonde You caught some sun Yeah you caught a little son Yeah it's not like in ginger
Starting point is 01:33:17 anymore You look like you turn it into a little Dragon fruit It was from the crack house Of just the residue Or the tips You look a little crackish right now I feel it
Starting point is 01:33:26 I think I got caught secondhand You ain't Damn through the touch Hell yeah I'm the best co-grapher Well go home shower Because you look like shit Thanks
Starting point is 01:33:36 And get your life together We'll see you on a couple days. Peace, love, respect to all. We out. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me,
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