New Rory & MAL - Episode 550 | CLIP THAT!

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

Happy Friday everyone! We already know what y’all are here for, but first, the guys discuss Gregg Popovich tying the knot with his former assistant coach’s ex-wife. At 13:30, Rory finally addresses the elephant in the room. Mal kicks the story off with his version of events, from getting a phone call from his cousin about the situation. Rory explains his side of the story, and issues an apology to Baby D, REASON, and the other parties involved. Mal shares why he never goes out, and why he stays out of the mix, Baby D shares her side of the story, and details the rest of their night. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But like, what circle is that? It's the coach circle. But like what girl is in that circle? I mean, it's coaches. Coaches hang out when they go on road trips and sit at the bar at the hotel all night. The wife might meet y'all on the road somewhere. Like, and we're recording. We can start with this.

I get it for like our circles of like events and it be the same chick sometimes. and like everybody know this girl and this girl, Instagram makes things smaller. That's a wild circle to just be in as a middle-aged woman. You just in the coach's circle? Well, yeah. If her husband, her ex-husband, who was a coach. Yeah.

For many years, he's been in NBA. And Mike Butterholzell, he was one of Greg Popovich's assistants for 20 years. Yeah, like you become family. Y'all go to each other's houses for cookouts and things like that. Like coaches spend a lot of time. together. Do you think this is weirder than Scotty Pippen's ex-wife dating Michael Jordan's son?

No. You think that's weird? That's the weirdest not far. Because you watch that kid grow up. Like, you know what? That's your nephew. Yeah, yeah. That's like your nephew at this point. Like that's, that's just, that's weird, yeah. But if your pop, like, is that weird though? That was your assistant? No, it's, it's... Is that a little odd?

It's, like, if you Mike, are you looking like, wait, this whole time I was brought my wife around you. What did you have in mind? If I were to marry your ex-wife, Rory. It would be very strong. That would be very weird. Like, super straight. That's what this is. They worked together for 20 years,

spent a lot of time with each other. The coaches spend, you know, more time with each other than they do their own family. Yeah, so it's like, you know, it is very weird. But, I mean, listen, if Greg Pavlovich is, hopefully Greg Popovich, you know, he's been dealing with some health issues over the years. Hopefully he is doing me. better. And he's happy at this point in life. It's just all about being, being happy, man. Don't, don't let your career stop your soulmate.

Right. If that's the one, that's the one. If that's the one go after it. We let that that Kenan Thompson thing came and went. Remember that whole thing? When, um, I do slightly remember. I forgot that other comedian's name that was on SNL. Yes, he's dating her, his ex-girlfriend. Ex-wife. Ex-wife. Ex-wife. Yeah. Yeah, okay. What is it? What is it with that, though? Like, it's so many women, like, Sometimes that shit is, I get what you just said. If your soulmate happens to be somebody that dated, you know, but I feel like you feel those feelings and emotions before it gets to soulmate level. More.

Where you need to check that. You need to be like, yo, this is wrong. I can't, I could never marry your ex-wife. I'll put it this way. Your ex could be my soulmate. I'll never find out. Yeah. I'll never even explore the option.

And I also don't believe that your ex could be my. soulmate. I don't believe that a girl that you had sex with Rory is my soulmate. Oh my God. And I'm just saying, should I be offended by that? No, no, no. It's just a real thing. It's just like, I can't. Well, I agree. I'm with you. Yeah, like, I can't. Come on, man. Like, a woman that you had, let alone were married to and have children with. Like, come on. That's my mind. And finding that I would suck too. Like, I'd have to have a one-on-one with God. Like, this is what you set for me in the plans. My soulmate is somebody that morfucked. God damn it, God. Yeah, like, that's my soulmate. Why would you do that?

to me. Yeah, like, I just don't, I don't, I get it, man. You love who you love and love is a, a strange thing, strange thing at times. But before it even gets to love it, I feel like someone is my soulmate and I know that that's your ex-girlfriend or ex-wife, it would never get to that. Ever. And, like, me having sex with that girl is like, that's crazy as is, let alone. That's like, yeah, yo, damn, but that's Rory's ex. You know what I'm saying? Like, but it's like marriage. Come on, man. And it might have had to Dirty Mac, right? No, probably not. Mike ain't tripping. There's no way if you-

Mike ain't, Mike probably like, man, Pop got what? Three left in him maybe? Don't say that about one of the greatest coaches of all the time. That's just be real! It's keeping real Fridays, man. He's fucking Mitch McConnell now. Keep it real Fridays, man. How old is Greg Popovich?

77. He's in the golden years. What's the average lifespan of white men in America? Watch this, Rory. You should know this all. You should know this off top. This is your demo. This is your demo.

So of us could live to $76.4. Greg is knocking at the door is all I'm saying. But I'm saying what Greg has a sharp mind. I love Coach Popovich. I love Coach Popovich. 77, he already passed the threshold of the average lifespan of the white man in America. But he's on his shit.

And his health is not the greatest. Who's the French guy that we smoked, Paul's? That I, what? The Knicks and a five. You know what I mean? Yeah, like quietly hasn't popped been behind the scenes helping Wemby? Like, his mind sharp,

he's going to work every day. Yeah, but it's not the same coach. He's not coaching, but he's still helping the spurs. Yeah, but, you know, it's just 77, health is not, you know,

his battery is not 100%. I'm just saying, if you were my coach, if I'm Mike, I ain't, how was Mike Bunthold'ser? I mean, probably 60, maybe.

Well, how was the wife? 57. Mike is a sprouting 57. You know what I mean? Like Mike ain't tripping. He got a, who's my coaching now? I don't think he's still in the NBA.

Phoenix? You got fired last year. Okay, so he was. So he got time. Yeah, so he could be. Mike is out there. Mike is outside. He'll be a supportive partner with all the time.

Yeah, like Mike ain't tripping about. That's my ex-work. She was a 77-year-old man that's, you know, not in 100% health. Legend, though. She got a legend. Ain't no way in the 20 years they were married, and that's your assistant coach. And you guys going through a divorce. You ain't look at your man after a game.

and say, yo, this bitch is on my nerves and didn't get your shit off to your man that ends up now with her. Dirty Mac and had to happen. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, but sometimes your dirty Mac turns into a man's like, what? They're laying that one. Your dirty Mac? Like, you dirty Mac and turns into like your man's like, all right. One man's dirty Mac is one man's like.

Mac. Yeah, that's like his queen. Like, where? Like, I think that's kind of fire. You got a good one on your hands. Nah. Well, all right. What about because Damaris is LGBTQ.

Do you think you could do the same with maybe one of Demaris's female exes? Who married him? Yeah. Is it different? I'm asking. I haven't formed an opinion yet. It's different, but it's still weird. Yeah, I feel like it'd be odd.

It's different, but it's still weird. A girl she slept with, cool. We can get through that one. Yeah, but this was like a girl with her with. her girl, I don't know, I'd feel weird doing that too. Yeah. Like, wife in it? Like, it's just weird.

And the thing is, there's so many other women out here. And then it's odd, too, because Demaris is really cool with her exes because she's a good person. So she's, like, on good timing with the people she's been with. So that's even weird or two. Like, y'all are still friends, and I'm not, like. Yeah, I just feel like when you cool with somebody, like, just exes are just like, come on, bro. It's just too. when you really sit down and think about how many people are out here,

like getting with someone's exes that you're close with, that you're cool with, that's a choice. But we've talked about that too of even getting back out there. Sometimes it's easier to just be in the circle you know. No, being social- Like going to find a whole new human being and a whole new circle of life. I can be the poster boy for being socially lazy. I've been that. So I know when you're socially lazy, you don't feel like going out.

out meeting new people. It's like whoever's in close proximity, that's who I'm having conversations with. That's who I'm hanging out with. And Demaris got good taste. She has good taste. So I'm not going out trying to meet somebody. So Damaris, is your ex lonely?

Tell her she could come over and, you know, come over, cook, chill, kick it. You know what I mean? Like, I can see how that can happen. Now, for me, that can't happen. But people are social lazy and it happens. Greg Popovich can't really be outside on the scene trying to really find them like that no more. I do fear now that

Mary might Mary Buttonhoser might be a great physical therapist We don't know what she does for living She might be an amazing physical therapist She might be a great nurse Which is fucked up You know, we don't know That comedian said that about Kenan's ex-wife

Like he was at my lowest And she was there for me It's like, all right, we can't We can't fight this one Brought you out of depression All right, go marry her Yeah, like you know Sometimes you just find

You find love in a hopeless place For it sometimes you know Well any one out there, if you are my soulmate, just don't tell me you slept with them all. Let's just keep that. I just never, just never need to know. If you don't find out after you in love?

If we vibing, don't tell me. Nah, you tripping. You tripping. Don't vibe with me and you slept with my homie. We can't vibe. If he came in here and told you he had like, you know, guys, I secretly like fell in love. Like we've been taking it slow, but like I really,

I'm in love. Would you tell him you hit? We have a whole sketch about this. The girl is my ex? Yeah. Not your ex. which you hit. Yeah, I mean, we did a, we did a whole sketch. We did a whole sketch around this. Yeah, we'll tell them. Yeah. Absolutely. Like, yo, fam, like, I see falling in love, like, a lot of dates.

She's got close at your house now. Like, also, how insane do I say that? DeBarris said I came in here and said, hey, I'm taking it slow. Yeah. That's what I said up on the couch. Nobody takes it. When the last time's all I took it slow, DeBarris. Niggas don't take it slow. I'm taking it slow. All right. We're not doing it. on this. I'm a little slow, but I'm taking it slow. You don't take it slow. You're right, but I'm trying to now. Now that I'm not, like, I'm, uh, you do not, I'm back out. Well, I'm not dating, but I'm back. I'm single. So yeah, this is the first time I think I'm taking it slow. Because you are, you are very much correct. You do not, no, no, you know me. You are,

you are correct. You fall in love, two lab dancers in. I'm not that guy. And you're like, yo, why are you doing this? And first of all, I'm not like the serial monogamous that's been in mad relations like, no, I fall in love with the people I fall in love with, but you are correct. I am a lesbian in that regard that you move in, if I'm in love, you moving in tomorrow. Yeah. You are correct. So that's not denying that as a person. Yeah, that's not taking it slow.

I'm saying now at this point in my life. Who you think take it slow? Me or you. See the difference? You are the 405 during rush hour with everything. I take it slow. Bro, you're the Holland Tunnel during the festival. You take commitment slow.

Right. You be fast to get some pussy. Yeah. You're a little hustling. You are a little hussy. No, don't say, well, if they fast, they give it to me. But I'm fine with that.

To me, I don't talk about that part of it, DeMaris. I've been trying, I'd be like, I don't think we should do this. I think we should, I think we should take it slow. I've said that. Please.

I've said, I think we should take it slow. But they already called me gay on the internet, so I'm just trying to save my rep at this time. I got to hit it. Like, you know what I mean? Maybe he is gay. Like, so I was got naked girl. And he said, let's take things slow.

Like, well, to prove to men on the internet that you're not gay is pretty gay. That is gay. That is very gay. But I'm just saying, like, if a woman wants to have sex, sometimes it be hard to say no. But I am very much, when I say take it slow, I'm not. I also have to take it slow.

Not to, like, make things serious, but, like, you can't do what I was doing and have a kid. Like, how I would fall in love quick with just two people into, like, two different relationships. I can't do that. You can't move in. Well, no. No.

No, you can't move in, but you don't mean you can take it slow. And I have a whole different mind state with that. Like, we got to be two years in before you meet tomorrow. Well, that has to happen. Yeah, you can't just have any and everybody around your daughter. No, that's not healthy. Yeah. Not at all.

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Wherever you get your podcasts. How's everyone feeling? I'm feeling great, man. How you feeling? Woke up to a lot of shitstorm. Snowstorm, blizzard, if you will. Okay. I said, it was a snowstorm last night. I said, really snow already?

You say, yo, your man, Rory was in the streets wild. And I said, what you mean? Yeah, man, I don't know. I spoke to, I spoke to Demaris last night. Damaris is mad at me. She should be mad at you. She should be. Yeah, I think that's, I think she has a right to be mad at me.

So let me just paint the scenario so y'all can just laugh for a second. Okay. I'm in the shower, bought this new body wash, couldn't wait to try it. That's what's going. That's the excitement in my life. I'm like, ooh, this is the all natural ingredients. Can you plug it? Or is it too soon to plug it?

Too soon. Okay. Don't know how the skin is going to react to it just yet. Just used it last night and this morning. So it's like give it a weekend at least, right? So I'm like, yeah, I'm excited to try this new body wash. Cool. In the shower.

I'm like, okay, it feels great. The shower, you know when the shower steams up and you have a great bodywatching the whole bathroom smells like the. Oh, they love that. Bathroom smells great brushing my teeth. I hear my phone going off, right? Nothing unusual. But it's a little, it's like 12, 45, 1 in the morning maybe.

So I'm like, okay. somebody's calling me phone stops ringing rings again so back to back it got to be the same person okay so I finish you know brushing my teeth

go get my phone a look it's my cousin at FaceTime two times now this is the cousin that we all have this relative that it's just certain hours if they call you it's only one or two things that's happening

yeah either somebody is about to die or somebody died, right? So I'm like, fuck. Calls him. No, I was great calling back. Open the phone. I see a text from you that says, Demaris is wrong.

I'm right. Y'all got to understand my world is completely. I got a random text from Rory saying, Demaris is wrong. I'm right. My cousin who I never want to get a call from at one in the morning, just triple face-time me. This is, we're at Defcom.

What's the highest? Defcom? Five? We're at four. Four. Whatever Kanye said about the Jews, like, it was as high as you can go. Yeah, we're at four. Right? I'm like, okay, cool. Call my cousin back. My cousin says,

yo, I'm in here, right? And I see your man. I'm just trying to make sure everything good. So I'm like, what's the natural question? Who my man? because I may know niggas but niggas will be my man but you know my cousin

he just probably seen somebody that I'm thinking he sees somebody that he knows that I know so he's like yo people that would date your ex yeah he turns the phone I see Rory I'm like

oh okay but now the text that Rory sent me I'm still not I don't know what that meant well that's because and not to cut you off that was because I thought Damaris had already hit you

no Damaris didn't hit me at all okay I thought she had and I don't know yeah so now I understand I don't know what's happening. So I'm like, okay, cool. I'm like, yo, he good. He's like, yeah, man, you know, he's standing here talking to homie.

But I don't know. I can't, I'm trying to read the energy. Yeah. And then my cousin says something that that type of cousin you don't ever want to hear. He says, and you know I don't do well with this type of energy. Now I don't know who we're talking to. But I know the energy my cousin is speaking of. So I'm like, yo, what's going on?

He can't hear me. Music blasting. I'm yelling in the phone on FaceTime. Yo, what is happening? Like, where are y'all at? He turns the phone to Rory. Rory kind of like brushes it off. But I'm just trying to see who Rory is talking.

Like, what's going to what's happening right now? Again, I'm still, you know, body still lathered a little bit. You know what I mean? I'm like, I ain't on this type of time. Nick, I'm trying to relax. Laying on your stomach. on the bed. Yeah, I'm trying to watch this new Guy Ritchie movie on Netflix. Like, I'm just in here chilling, man. What the fuck is going on right now?

Rory then, I said, yo, listen, I said, make sure he's good. Just, you know what I mean, he was like, I got him. I said, just make sure y'all, I say, call me back when y'all, you know. Yeah. And I appreciate your cousin, by the way. So then you call me. Yeah. No, he calls me back and gives you his phone. That's what it was. Yeah. Because when I called you didn't answer, and I thought, I said, I haven't hit our group chats because I think you're mad at Nisu. No, no, no. I say give Rory your phone. Gives Rory the phone. Rory says,

yo, I just had to ask him because he said we were suckers. Mind you, I still don't know who Rory's talking about. All right, but I wasn't on some Rai Rai shit. Let's make that clear. No, you wasn't. I was not on that energy. You wasn't knowing that. But again, I'm still trying to context clues.

Yeah. What is Rory talking? Because I want to make it clear. I was not on some Rai Rosh shit at all. I'm not saying you were. I'm just saying I'm trying to decide. for what is happening because a cousin of mine that nobody could rara should be rarron with just facetined me at one in the morning talking about yo i don't do well with this energy so what's

happening and this is your man so that i mean that's my man i'm like all right we're like yeah no you know i had to ask him i'm like oh okay give my cousin back the phone yo it's all good man don't worry about nothing it's all good just talking it's all right he's like all right he's like all right I'm going to make sure he's good. You know, like he seemed like I think he was, you know, he's just a little, you know, excited. And I was like, yeah, I said, yeah, listen, it's all, everything is good in there. I said it's all good. Once I realized where y'all were, though, I was like, why is Rory there?

You are 1,000 for that correct. So once I find that out, I'm like, okay, Rory shouldn't be here. Yeah, but okay. Then when I- Well, let's blame reason. I was hosting. Okay. But then when I find out where you are.

who you were talking to, I'm like, oh, I'm putting it together. So now at this time, I'm texting Damaris like, do me a favor, leave. She says, I'm trying to. Rory won't let me. I'm just trying to get my shit and go home. I said, Damaris, do me a favor. Just leave now. The reason why I told Demaris to leave is because I understand that when men, alcohol,

women and ego are mixed. Mine was ego driven. Sometimes the best thing to do is just remove yourself. So again, I know, whether y'all know it or not, that y'all were very safe last night. So I wasn't really tripping. Once I knew what it was, I'm like, oh. But I also want to make it clear to it was not, at least on my end, of course, I've kind of like stayed off the timeline today. But, I mean, I've gotten text messages, obviously.

I want to say on record, I don't think I pressed anyone. No, no, no. Like, I know that's now the net, like, I don't think I pressed anyone. That aside. I don't think I did that. But again, understand what I'm saying. Men, alcohol, ego, and women will sometimes make things seem ways that they're not. I don't feel like you were pressing anybody.

I don't think I was at all. Right? So, but when you put those things in the same room, the evil, ego is what starts to say, yo hold up, this nigga trying to play me? When that's not what you were trying to do? That very well may not have been your intentions. No.

But when you're in these rooms and these places. I'm very, all right. Yes, I do do stupid things sometimes. But I was well aware while I do not think I in any way press flip, I don't think flip was scared. Like none of that shit whatsoever. But you can see why I'm aware of what even speaking to somebody comes with. I didn't go up with that with like, la, la, la, everything's fine.

I knew exactly afterwards what it could be. Right, but this is what I'm saying. When you have these things and these elements combined, this is what happens. Communication is thrown off. Intention is taking the wrong way. And then now we have a whole situation that's like, but that's not even what was. Yeah. You get what I'm saying?

No, no, no. So when y'all asks me, yo, why you don't go ahead? This is why. All right. Because I go somewhere and I see somebody that made. have said something about me. Now, granted, y'all know who I know. A lot of these people that talk about, and I don't really care about people that say things about me and that, you know, have little sly remarks about me. I understand what that's about. I signed up for this. When I built this platform,

when we built this platform, I signed up for everything that comes with it. So that's why a lot of times that shit doesn't, it doesn't affect me. It is what it is. But I don't go to these places and I don't freak with these places because I know that sometimes people are just waiting for a moment and not saying this is what happened last night but sometimes people are waiting for a moment and opportunity

to have a conversation with you based on something that either you said or something that they know you heard that they said and now we're having a conversation that one I don't particularly even care to have because I don't give a fuck about 98% of the shit

that people say about yeah don't care It doesn't matter. I know who I am. That's all that matters, right? But back to last night, when you're in these places and this energy is present, Rory, we as men have to understand where it's like, okay, there's certain things I can't do. Now, your intent was very much a pleasant and peaceful and non-confrontational intention. But when you're in these places and in these environments and as a man, you approach another,

man, right? That can be taken away where now it's an energy that you didn't even intend to create. But it's like, it's now it's a combative. It's a very confrontational energy. It's a very like, yo, you're trying to disrespect me when it's like, no, that's not what I was trying to do at all. Why would you take? But this is why I would take that way. Because I know what I said about Rory. You are correct. You approached him about what he said about you. But I was fully, I fully knew that that could not be taken in a hospital way, if you will. Like, I didn't go there like dumb thinking like, like, hey, man, I'm just being nice. No, no, no.

I knew he could take that a wrong way. So here's my thing. Which is why I even said this morning to G Money is man, Mark, I'm not proud of it, but I still stand by it. Which is fine. As a man, when you stand by what you do, I respect that. Right or wrong. When you stand by your actions, as a man, I respect that.

what I'm saying is you have to understand also as a man when your actions affect others. That's the fact. And that's why I think DeBarris has every right to be mad at me. Right. So this is what I'm saying. As men, we have to understand, number one, how to disengage the room.

Like when I see certain dudes that don't like me, I was just in that way, what, two, three weeks ago? So, dudes walked in the room that I know have a problem with me. I'll say it, the whole Dreamville crew. Thanks. They walked in the room. And I felt, this is the first time I ever felt bad about something I said because somebody who I've always had a pleasant rapport with.

Yeah. This was the first time we've ever seen each other and never said what's up to each other. And that's the only thing that I'm like, damn. As a man, I stand by everything I ever said. I stand by at all. Y'all know how I give it up. I stand by everything I ever said. But I felt bad because I'm like, damn, homie, but I wasn't trying to disrespect you.

Yeah, yeah. I wasn't trying to disrespect your man, but y'all just know how I give it up. Like, I'm going to just keep it a thousand every time. But I felt bad because I'm like, I don't ever want me and this man to feel like we're not cool. Because I think Eve is a cool ass nigga. Eve is one of the greatest people I've met in this music industry and it's not even close. And I felt bad that for the first time I saw Eve out in public and we didn't say a word to each other. We went right at each other.

which you could understand why I understand it I get it but as a man I got to disengage that you understand what I'm saying because as men we know where that could go fair

not saying that I'm going to take it somewhere because I'm the last thing that's good because I know as men the consequences and repercussions that come with that so I'd rather disengage the energy in the room and be like nah ain't none of that going on but also you know what we do Rory

time and place it wasn't the time and place to do that because why this man is with his crew. They are ready, I could tell by the, I'm reading the room. I can tell the energy. You also know outside of all that, and this is not, I'm on record all the time saying I'm not, you all right, simple? I'm never on some tough guy shit, but I don't know what you said on this pod too. I'm always about approaching somebody, and I'm some tough guy shit, but I don't speak about people.

So if you say something about me, so like, all right, is it time and place. Okay. So while somebody is streaming, while somebody has cameras on. on, you gotta know that this is now performing. You are, you are correct. So, niggas is getting ready to perform. You are. The lights is on.

So can I, can I give you my thinking? Because everything you said is correct and I do not disagree. And I still owe Demer's flowers and an apology because I know where I'm wrong, especially to your point of when you're with people, you put them in a situation. I'm, maybe it's only child syndrome. When it comes to that type of shit, I'm just, I'm solo. I'll go by myself to say something to somebody without thinking who they're with or who I'm with. I've just always been an idiot like that. Now, I'm not saying Flip had any intentions to do any

of this. And I want to make this very clear. If he says, I'm out of my mind, he could very well 100% be telling the truth. We were at the end of the bar. I saw the cameras and I saw a play about to happen. So I got ahead of it. No, I don't agree with that. I don't agree with it either. Guys, I'm not saying that that's an excuse. I'm just telling you what my process when one camera guy comes this way for no reason. I'm like, oh, I see the play. And I'm not saying Flip, I want to make that very clear. I am not saying Flip was going to do that, but that's what I peeped. So that's what you thought? Yes. Okay, fair. Fair. And I want to make it very clear that I'm not accusing. I'm not accusing Flip of that. Right. And Flip very well. If Flip says,

yo, I didn't even know he was there. I believe him. I'm telling you, when I saw the other camera guy come over towards me and DeMaris, I said, oh, I see what's about to happen. Okay. I In your mind. I see what's about to happen. Okay. So do you also understand how you may have read that wrong? Yep. Okay, cool.

Yep. As long as you see that now, how you read the room. That was the first thing this morning where I was like, yeah, I know why I reacted the way I did, but I was probably wrong in how I read that, which I want to apologize to flip. But this is what goes back. Because I read that wrong. I thought he was, and again, somebody that has been for a decade, nothing but complimentary to Queens flip, even when he was on the old. pod. I was saying Flip the script is my favorite podcast, even when other people were calling it corny. I always say, yo, Flip's one of the best interviewers. Him and G Money got like one of the best

podcast, period. Two of my favorite interviews. So that's where I was a little, I thought it was odd when he started screaming at the top of his lungs that we were suckers. And I know Flip, because I followed Flip for a very long time. He's C-O-E, he's unpredictable. That's why he's so good at his job. I thought a play was about to happen. And maybe that's the main character, narcissistic shit to think. But when I saw the camera guy go that way, I said, I'm going to go right to that light before it comes over here. I'm going to go to the light before the light comes over here. That makes no sense to me. Fair. No, no. That's okay. If that's what those were your thoughts in the moment, I respect it. Now, let me ask you something. If I see that gentleman out, do you think

I would ever approach him or say anything? I don't know. No, I'm asking what do you think? I don't know. Demar's, do you think I would approach him to say anything? No. I do not think that at all. I don't approach nobody. Like, I don't never approach anybody and say anything. I don't care what nobody says. And again, I don't have any issues with anybody. Let me be very clear. I don't know.

I want to talk to Flip. I talk to G Money and Mark today. I don't have any problems with nobody. I don't know y'all. If y'all got an issue with me, you are more than working when you see me to approach the issue. I would just say approach it with the right energy is all I'm saying. As men, again, when you have men, alcohol.

ego and women. You are 1,000% correct in all of that. You read things the wrong way. Things are taking the wrong way. Taking out of context. Intention is... And again, it affects not just you. It affects the people around you.

Now I'm sitting on our platform talking about people in situations that I never care to talk about. But I have to because it happened and we talk about everything else up in the sun. We got to talk about shit that happened with us. We can't skip this. We can't not.

Because if it wasn't one of us, we'd be talking about it. But at the same token, when I'm in L.A., and I run into the Dreamers, all right, that could have been a situation where I saw Eve, I saw his men, I told you Night Train, didn't you want to shake my hand? I'm like, I didn't know what was going on. I'm like, Night Train. I didn't know you was Dreamville.

Like, what the fuck? Of course he's Dreamville. I didn't know. I don't be knowing. And shout out to Night Train. I love Night Train. Shout out the night. He don't fucking me no more.

Cool. But, okay. But it could have been a situation. But you see the difference in that is Night Train has a right to feel away and Eve has a right to feel away because you said something about their man's. Despite this being a podcast

and we do talk about people, do you think I'm a very respectful person and I don't say shit that I wouldn't say to somebody in person? It's actually why I've given the streamers a lot of flack. Like, I'm not yelling from my house because I go outside. I'm only going to say something I would say in person.

So with that said, I found it odd, the same way I told you when I was at the Walee show, people that have spoken about me so publicly don't have, and this is not about Flip, I want to make this very clear. Just don't, why aren't you, I can't wrap my mind around that because we're also in the same business. I'm on a microphone. If there's something that I'm going to say, that's why I choose my words, why is it? Because I'm not a disrespectful person.

And I know I'll be outside. Why when people say certain things, it's different in person. I want to make this clear. It's not anything to do with the flip thing. I'm not saying flip should come here on here and yell I'm a suck. I'm just saying that's always bothered me where people, I just walk freely. I'm in a green room with somebody who's been talking shit about me forever. Like I thought you, I thought y'all was tough.

I thought everybody was tough. Yeah, but okay, but. And it's not about flip. No, I want to make that very clear. I'm just having a broader conversation. I understand that. What I'm saying is in that same breath over, you know that already.

So why even approach it, which is why I don't approach nobody. because I know that But I can see you not approaching Dreamville because you were the one that spoke about Dreamville. I was just asking, and again, I'm wrong. I'm not here to like go back and forth with you I'll try to justify my point.

I'll give y'all my thought process at the time, but I can still be wrong. I just, that still, I cannot wrap my mind around that. Like, if I screamed that somebody was a sucker and I saw them outside, I'd feel weird. If I saw them in person, Yeah, but again. And you have to give it.

I want to make that clear that this isn't like trying to start something with Flip. I said to Mark Angie Money, I would love to get on the phone then because what you don't know is after the cameras were not there, me and Flip sat down. We sat down in the corner. Your cousin was right there. And we had what I thought, on my view, was a good conversation that I hope we can finish. He ended up leaving because I think somebody came in and he was streaming. He was working. I want to finish the conversation that we had.

because I was not there on some shit, but I always felt and shit, I don't know, maybe that's a female tendency, but I was like, yo, I've been nothing but kind to you all, like anything I've ever said, why are you calling me and more suckers? This one we were sitting away from everything. Like, I think that shit is odd a bit. Because I don't know, maybe I'm not built for this content shit. I think we could all work together and be cool.

Like, I think me and Flip could do something cool together. Right now with Prince and this Ronnie Bump shit, I've been behind the scenes trying to get flipped that interview. When they were sending prices, I said, nah, Flip is the one that should be interviewing him. Like, I do all this shit, and I don't understand why people publicly say that, and it could just be love. Yeah, but it could just be love.

But you also got to understand something, too, or like, again, you get to a point where, yes, you could fill away. Like, damn, I only showed this person nothing but respect and love. like why would they disrespect me? Sometimes you got to be cool with just like, all right, well, whatever. I guess the person don't fuck with me. That don't mean when you see the person

why they're streaming, why cameras are, yo, why would you say that about me? I was wrong. I was wrong. And maybe sometimes niggas just think you a sucker. If you're not a sucker, who cares? If you are a sucker, who cares? Like, maybe he just think you a sucker.

Just because you was nice to him, don't mean that. Don't change his. I'm on that side of you. I'm not looking for the, um, Queens flip approval of who's a sucker and who's not a sucker. I just, I don't know. I guess the in-person thing is different for me.

That's all. Yeah, what answer do you want him to say? What are you asking what? You're like, what was you looking for and just approach it? No, that's a great question. You know what I'm saying? So that's the thing for me where it's like I don't, like, like I said, if I see somebody out that I feel like it has an issue with me,

nine times out of ten, I'm not saying nothing to them. Because it's not like we're going to sit here and be like, oh, no, you know, it's just content. You calling me out my name or you call them this for content? Now I really don't have my name. My name was going out. It's not the other way of right. I understand. I'm just saying, in approaching anybody that says anything about you, whether it be on a platform, social, whatever, sometimes what's the point of it?

No, you guys are all correct. And I'm saying my thought process that that was getting ahead of something. And again, this could be main character. syndrome that I was getting ahead of what I thought was going to be a camera on me and Demaris in the corner of that bar and it was going to be something. And again, I'm wrong in that process, unless that's really what it was going to be. I don't know. We'll never know. Yeah, but that's what comes into the thinking of. All right. So what was the point of that because whether you were right about that being a play, cameras coming over there where you was at.

Can I answer that? You going over him to where the cameras is that. The point of the matter is either way cameras is on. Either way. But he did it on camera. Yeah, but what's the point? Okay, can I answer that part? In no way in that first go-round, like, I want to make it clear.

I know this is, there's the headlines of pressing and this is like, why did, I had no intentions of hitting flip doing any of that. So like, I'll give y'all the answer there. Nobody was trying to hit flip if whatever his answer was. I wasn't pressing him. Y'all on the internet now are saying the pressing thing. I don't think I was pressing.

and I had no intentions of ever putting my hands on flip whatsoever. Now, when he came back, I wasn't sure of the energy. That's when I said, when I said camera, I'm not doing that on camera. I was really trying to check the temperature at that point. Put the camera down. Okay, this is for real. Yeah, but my thing is. And I'm not saying that was the case, but that's really where I was like, oh, this is for real.

Let's, we're not doing nothing on camera. You should have done that at the beginning. I should have done a period No, no, no, but if you were going to approach Flip and ask him out something that he said about you that you were just confused and thought that you know what you've always showed him respect the approach should have been different.

I also, and you know what, this is this is going to be, again, I was driven off ego. I even spoke to Space Ghost after that whole shit happened. And I asked him, we were on, we were outside the Larry Juno Alchemist's shit. And I said, at this point, him and Flip were still cool.

And I was like, what's up with your man? Like, why he's saying all this weird shit about me and more? Like, I want to holl at him. Like, not in that type of way, but like, yeah, what the fuck? This is odd. This is a weird energy.

And I'm not saying that message got back to him. I don't know what happened. But it was egged. So, I don't know. I held on to it. Okay. And here's the thing. I'm glad you said that.

I know, I know, I know that this is all for entertainment. And all the jokes will get off. but I'm happy just being honest and vulnerable, y'all. Yeah, I held on to that shit. I thought it was corny. I thought it was unnecessary. I thought it was odd. No, and listen, I respect, I respect you saying that.

I held on to it. I respect you saying that. And that right there is the difference. A lot of things that people say about you, say about us, it's like that, it's not, it's really, none of this shit is that serious, but again, that's specific because people say so many things about us. That's what I'm saying. With the flip shit, I don't know why.

I don't know why that bothered me the most. But it don't even matter. Of course it doesn't. Maul, it's ego. It's fucking ego. I know. It's all ego. I said men, ego, alcohol, and women, bad combination.

And they was just getting in there. It's just a terrible combination, right? So I understand it. And I appreciate you being honest and being vulnerable and understanding where you were wrong at. Right. I appreciate all of that. But my thing is now, one, moving forward and learning from things and just

understanding and then just as men being able to read the room and as men sometimes you got to understand when it disengaged the room because that's done plenty of times though I know you have this is like a rare I know you have so

last night you had an oopsie let's call it an oopsie you had a oopsie right you just had a little oopsie and I understand it but as your big as your big brother as your older brother I'm here to tell you

which is fine with me yeah I'm okay being wrong. We can't do that. We can't move like that. There's a better way to have the same conversation you were looking for. This is a better way to do it. You are a way to go about it. It's a better way to make it happen because, again,

once these cameras and these lights and everything and the mics and everything is on, people just feel like it has to be a production and a show. But mine was a seat. When I'm looking for just a conversation, it's literally like nobody even sometimes even knows the conversation. that I had with certain people. Well, you've seen me, and Demaris, you have as well, seen me approach to people, whether we're at Terminal 5,

anytime someone said that was not something, yes, I said clip that, so I'm a hypocrite in that regard. I would have done that exact same thing, which I think I'm wrong about. I would have done that exact same thing, had Flip, had zero cameras there. As far as approached them and action. And I would have said the same thing.

Oh, no, no, I believe that. Because y'all have seen me do that to people. No, no, no, I believe that. And when I say, it's not present, like, yo, What's the shit that you said is not a, I'm not, I'm a civilian. I'm not a tough guy. I just ask people like, yo, you said some shit and I don't say shit about you. So what's up?

You're being 100% truthful. I know you would have did that cameras or not. What I'm sitting here on our platform saying is, you should not have done that with the cameras. But more, I also. You should have done what you've done before many times. No cameras. Yo, you got an issue. Let's talk about it.

But I also. Or to what the merits point is, don't do shit. Guys, I agree with you. We have, we have an own little vibe, all little sense. We're having a good time. Happy birthday to reason. You know, like, it's just us do what we do. Sometimes you ain't got to have a comment.

That's the fact. I know he's better than most. I don't want to talk to none of these niggas. I don't care who don't like me, who ain't my friend, who think I'm this, I'm not. Fam, that's all good. Guess what it don't do. It ain't affecting me. I got a super pretty girl right here I'm talking to.

I'm having a great night. I'm not fucking up my night because somebody said something that I didn't like. Not at this point of my life. Maybe if I'm 25, oh, let's shake this whole fucking room. And in loud, loud, loud part out loud of my thoughts, again, they could have been wrong. All right, then what happens if that camera comes to our side of the bar? And now you and I are sitting here and you going, oh, you was, you was partying with flip? That's crazy.

Me? I'm just saying in general of, and again, I wouldn't give a fuck about none of that. I know that. I'm saying my ego in that regard. too is like, okay, if this camera comes over here, and again, I didn't think this that thoroughly. I want to make that clear too. This was, this was, this was in like five fucking seconds. Yeah. Also, that's, to me, that's my ego. What happens? It flips over. And I, I really have no B-Poo flip. If flip came over on camera in that way, I wouldn't have done anything

outside of what I said. I thought we were suckers. Now, the internet pulling up the clip, Flip saying, yo, they suckers, and now I'm sitting next to them. Like, yeah. It's ego. It's ego. You're thinking way too deep into that. I've been thinking about a long morning. That's what I'm saying.

I think you're thinking way too deep into that shit. That was subconscious. Because if... Does that make sense? No, I understand that. But what I'm saying is, I don't know Flip. I don't know him. I don't have nothing negative to say about them.

Neither do I. So if somebody wants to sit and wear it and call me a sucker that I know doesn't know me, you think when I see this person, I'm like, hey, why'd you call me a sucker? I don't know this man. That's how I sound to do. I don't know him. I don't know. Him aside, anybody that has something to say about me on the internet and we don't have a relationship, don't have, never had a conversation.

They say something about me. When I see them out, I'm not asking them. Y'all are right, and I'm here to get my talking to. No, no. And I respect that. I'm here to take my talking to. But I'm just saying, I'm just saying. moving forward.

Last night happened. We can't change what happened last. That's over with it. Shut up, mom. You had an oopsie. You had an oopsie. We all have had oopsies, right? I'm saying moving forward, moving forward,

just understand the room, understand who you're with and understand that your actions. But I had that. Everybody with you. Everybody associated with you, which is how I move. I'm never going to do something. But I was standing on that second time

when it happened when I was like, okay, this, this ain't the first part when I was really checking the temperature. And again, me and Flip, breaking news, sat down without cameras in the corner and had a nice conversation. At that second part, when I said, yo, I was really checking the temperature, which, Ma, I'm retarded. I'm by myself. I will happily fight anybody by myself.

If you have 30 people with me, I'm getting jumped by 30 people. You know that about me. I understand. But you're not by yourself. You were not by yourself last night. I'm sorry. He pissing me off so bad. No, DeMaris, I want you to speak too.

And I said I overfly. You were there. I screamed at him in the middle of the street. I'm tired. You were there. You were there. Like, I can't. You're not by yourself.

You were there. You're not by yourself. So you speak to what happened, Demarice, and how you felt in the situation. I don't even want to. My point, my only point in this, and this is maybe this is so that other people can learn this lesson. When you are with people, it doesn't matter. what energy you wanted to convey.

We are in New York City. You don't walk up to another grown man and say, nah, we suckers, right? We suckers, right? You don't walk up to another grown man. But I've done that off camera before. I'm talking. You don't say that to another grown man.

I don't give a fuck about it being on camera or off camera. You do that shit when you're in the street by yourself, not even taken into the fact that you have now put me in reason in a uncomfortable predicament, whether it was off camera or not. Now it's on camera. Reason's also a fucking public figure. You have put us in an uncomfortable position, right? That's number one.

Number two, you have now changed the energy of the entire party. Other people who paid their motherfuckin' $60 or they fucking $1,000 for a section in. You are now fucking up their experience. That's the only thing I could push back on. That didn't happen. Yes, it did. Everyone had a blast, man. You are right about everything else, but.

No, she's just saying you changed the energy. You changed the energy of the whole party. You just changed the energy of the whole party. Now people looking around and, yes, of course, people. people still have fun like nobody gives the fuck but you still change the energy of the because now niggas is looking around and now his homie who came to have a good time get bitches is no longer having a good time and getting bitches they're worried about you because people love you so now I'm talking again now you don't know who's with who it's not about what you think another nigger do

all it takes like maw said is male ego alcohol all it take is the wrong cousin the same way you had the wrong cousin all it take is for him to have the wrong cousin. Don't know the backstory behind none of this stupid podcast content over everything shit and walk and say, yo, who the fuck is this white boy in your fucking face? And elevate it now. You don't know. Yes, I do.

What are you talking about? No, see, this is where I'm going to get put. Listen, I'm not proud of that, but I knew everything that came with what I did. Let's make that fucking clear. I'm wrong. And I should have done that with you there. I should not have done that with reason there. We all came together.

I should not have done that. But don't think for a second, I didn't know what came with that. So then that was that. If somebody snuck me, I got snuck. Like, that's what happens. I'm aware. Like, y'all acting like I'm this green motherfucker. Like, we'd be joking on his pocket.

You're missing the entire fucking point. You're not by yourself. You're missing the entire point. DeMaris and you're with reason. They over there. It don't matter. No, we weren't over there. When you did all of that, we were six feet from you.

It don't matter. I said I was wrong. I'm just saying I know what came with it. Which makes it. And I'm wrong for that. That makes it even stupid. But don't explain to me that. That's why I know I'm 1,000% wrong is because everything you're saying.

You don't need to explain to me how wrong I am because I was there. If you, if you were aware of how. Because I'm dumb. Right. But you can't be dumb when you got other people with you. I agree. All right. So you can't say you give him pushback.

You can't push back on nothing she's saying. But she doesn't need to explain to me that part because I'm well aware. I've seen flip fight before. Flip will pop on somebody. I wasn't running over to some little fucking streamer that's never left his basement. Right. Flip is from West Side America. I know about Flip. Right. Flip is not pussy. So why? So why I do that? Because I'm dumb. Because I'm dumb. Okay. So this is what this conversation is about. And you have to be smarter. You don't have to, you don't have to, you don't get to be defensive when somebody feels away about that. You don't get to be defensive when somebody feels away. You're right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're right.

Like you're, you're super defensive in this. When you fucked up the vibe last night, you did that for no reason. It ain't like a, it ain't like a nigga talk shit about your kid. Like it ain't like a, it ain't like a nigga talk shit about your kid. Like, it ain't like. A nigga really took though money out your pocket It wasn't nothing about that A nigga called you a suck on internet Niggas have been calling you a suck on internet for 10 fucking years You're a public figure

It is what it is Just because he also has a platform Doesn't change anything So you don't get to be like Super defensive When you're the one in the wrong I was defensive of knowing What came with it

And that's why I'm really feel bad about it Yeah so okay So I understand what you're saying But I understand what Damaris's right Yeah right So I know I know she I'm glad he came to the decision that I was right because last night you walked up

until me 50 times and said, I'm wrong. I'm wrong. No, not only that. I'm wrong. Text me saying Damaris is wrong. I'm wrong. But again, at that point, I didn't know what was happening. This is why I really felt about it. Why I called you last night after I left was not about the situation.

It was to apologize for having your cousin involved in anything. Because I was also, and I think I'm not speaking for Flip, But I also felt that way when him and I spoke, it was fine. Everyone was trying to make a big deal out of something that I didn't think was a big deal. Nobody was going to fight. Nobody was going to do anything. But again, Rory, to DeMaris's point, you don't know that. I know what your intention was.

Your intention was not to have a physical confrontation. Your intention was not for things to escalate. To DeMaris' point, you don't know who somebody else is with. I'm aware. So when you're aware, of that, you have to conduct yourself as if you're aware of that. And I was. No, the way you conducted

yourself last night, that's not how somebody conducts themselves when they're aware of what could possibly. I'm saying afterwards, after we had the second back and forth on camera and then spoke. I was aware that it may not be love. Right, Rory. But we, you're talking about second and third time. As men, sometimes you don't get a second and third time.

You get one time to get this shit right. He could have stole off on me on the first part. Right. So with that, but I was prepared for that. You can't be prepared for that when you got a woman with you. You're right.

All right. I'm sorry that I'm being defensive. I'm sorry to be defensive because I agree with both of you. No, no. I understand. I know you agree, but I'm just saying,

you can't be prepared for that when DeMaris is standing there. Yeah. When our guest reason is standing there because now you're putting people that don't have nothing to do with this in the middle of something potentially happening.

And they know how they're going to say, sit around and watch Rory niggas do hopscotch on your bat. That's, and that's my main thing. If you was with, if you was with somebody, you know who you're with. So it ain't like, oh, shit, I'm on myself. I do shit on myself because me and him would never let you do anything by yourself. We don't operate like that. So it's, so that's the thing where it's like, you're not with like just some girl that,

like some random girl that you'd have met in the party and you fucking and if you start get your ass who, she going to walk away. Right. You see what I'm saying? That'd be an ick. Like, that's like, that's not. which you're with. So now I'm over here standing in the two. I got $1,200 shoes. I don't reason

got jorts on. Like, what are we doing? It's mad bitches in here. Like, we're chilling. Like, you know what I'm saying? And Louis Vuitton sneakers. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? What the fuck you? You know what the fuck is you doing? I would just like, I'm wrong. I would just like for the record to show. I was home watching the ungentlemanly warfare. A great movie on Netflix by Guy Ritchie. Great movie.

I was not prepared to hear any of this to find out any of this to come in here and talk about any of this. But I do understand that since we sit here and talk about everything else that happens, it is only right that we talk about shit that happens with us. So to Rory's point, yes, you understand what your actions were wrong. Yes. To De Maris's point, Demeris's right to feel every way that she feels. I'm just glad that everybody made it home safely.

Yeah. Hopefully you and Flip, have a conversation, continue conversation, and work on whatever issues it is. Y'all have? I'll put the olive branch out here now and say especially with everything that both you guys explained in general, I did some sucker shit. You did some. So flip is right.

Whole time. Whole time. Whole time. I did some sucker shit. I was ego driven. I was prepared to deal with the consequences, not thinking about anybody else's consequences. And I apologize. Flip every right.

If it's going to be C-O-E, but I'm off. offering the olive branch flip i apologize i did some suck of shit i do not think i pressed you what the internet like i i don't think that i don't know that you look scared i don't think anyone and on top of that i don't even i don't know that gentleman and whatever that's man shit i will say he literally say yo put the camera down and asked where you're you good are you okay he said he literally said put yo put the camera down when the when that first interaction happened you can literally hear him say, yo, put the camera down and the light went away.

He's like, yo, what's wrong? Like, are you good? Are you okay? Because I felt away. Ego driven. Right. Ego driven. What I'm saying is I'm not going to put content over everything on him

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and they complain about the event. to receive it. It's raw. I knew that the issue of transgender athletes was not going well with a lot of black men. Roland Martin unfiltered. I went off, I said, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Y'all going to scream at Chanel, but you don't want to see a black luxury company in the same vein. Catch Roland Martin's daily commentary on the Black Information Network. 12 seats. Those are moving south. So if you Democrats, You don't wait to 2030. You better be hitting the ground going hard in the South now.

And download Roland Martin unfiltered on the IHart radio app, Apple Podcasts. Wherever you get your podcasts. He said put the camera down. And now, and let me say, and you're right, and let me also add, again, I wasn't there. I'm just adding to what the situation that y'all are telling me. He's wrong for things he said about, definitely about me. I've never met him. I've never said a bad word about it.

If he has anything negative to say about me, It's literally just him choosing to say negative because I've never said nothing negative about him and I've never disrespecting him. So when somebody does that to me, it's like weird. I never disrespect this man. So you're correct in feeling away about things he said because you feel like you've never disrespected him. Yeah. Same.

I still come from that school. I've never disrespected him. Don't know him. Never met him. I have nothing disrespectful to say to that gentleman. What I'm saying is sometimes part of being a man, one of my, My favorite songs, it takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile. Sometimes you just have to deal with the ignorant shit and still enjoy your night.

Yeah. You don't have to approach the ignorant shit. You just don't. You get what I'm saying? But I hope that you and that man speak. I hope that y'all hash things out. I hope that, you know, everything is peace and love. Because, again, this is all corny shit.

We just podcasters with mics. Corny what I did. Content creators. I feel bad. As much as I... So to be beefing with each other just for the same. of beefing with each other because we feel like it's content. But that's corny.

I don't play that game. That was always my issue too. And we could really knock the fourth wall down. Like, that's why I have no issue with Ish, Ice, E, everybody like, that was our issue. No, no, I got an issue with one of them. Okay. Fair. But I'll gladly talk to that gentleman if I was.

To me, that was always our issue with him. And we never spoke about them. we never spoke about anyone that was on cat that's why i guess maybe maybe that's a maybe that's a triggering paul's soft spot for me like like like i get that like i i i i i fuck with ish and ice because that's that's that's homie's problem with us that has nothing to do with them so they stayed quiet about it no no but they don't okay maybe i missed that but that's where i i i had maybe a real issue with with flip no but i because i was like yo you're not even like what the i understand that but what i'm saying is again

somebody over there call us suckers when we did no sucker shit somebody over there said something about me that I didn't particularly like got you okay and then I know the real dynamic between

y'all and another gentleman over there got it okay so why would you say something negative about me I've never said nothing negative about nobody over there that is a fact outside of the outside of the name of the podcast

outside of the obvious. You have never said a bad. I've never said nothing. Behind the scenes, you never said a bad word. On my platform. So when somebody says something about me, trying to belittle me, when I know who you are, I have issue with that. I would never talk about it publicly.

Fair. I understand. But to your point, if I see that gentleman out, I may approach them and have a conversation, only because we both know what this is really about. If it's the person I'm thinking of, you guys have a history, whereas I think that's more warranted. than the dumb shit I did yesterday.

1 million percent. Because me and Flip don't know each other. So you guys have a history. One million percent. Where a conversation would really have to happen. One million percent. What I did was not. We and Flip don't have no history at all.

One million percent. And that's the only time, again, I don't care about people disrespecting me on their platforms. Say what you will. You purchased that microphone. You purchased that camera. You can say whatever you feel. like saying, right? I'm saying I'm only

responsible for my actions. Yeah. Not yours. Yeah. Last night, you were responsible for your actions. Yeah. And I have to own them as an adult. And I respect that, man. Like, you know, like I said, man, it was an oopsie. It's like if a mara, spill

some juice, it's just an oopsie. We'll get the paper towel, clean it up. Get the paper towel. Talk to flip. Off camera, off mic. Have a conversation. Let him know where you stand, how you feel. Hopefully he'll be receptive to that. I let you know how he feel and where he stands. And we'll continue to upload great content, man.

It's just like, you know what I mean? Like this, sometimes we just get a little too full of ourselves. Ego. Ego and alcohol, baby, dear. And, yo, by the way, I didn't realize that him and Mark went back and forth on the same word. There's something about Kappa's in the word sucker that just bothers us. It's not. Mark, what he's saying, yo, something with noops in the word sucker just doesn't land well.

No, it's not. it's men. You're calling a grown man a sucker. Like, that's, you know. And everyone can say I'm wrong. It is certain words that do bother me more than other ones. No, you're not wrong for filling away about somebody calling you a sucker. When I was nothing but stand up through that whole fucking thing.

You're wrong in how you handled yourself in the situation. That's where you're wrong comes up. 100%. No, I'm not saying you're wrong fulfilling away. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying last night wasn't the time or the place. and as men, we have to understand time and place. Yeah.

That is very important. That is, in all honesty, and I hate the sound as heavy about it, understanding time and place as a man is literally the difference between life and death. I agree. I agree. D'Maris, I apologize. I really, really mean that. I've never even put, like, an apology on my daughter.

I apologize. I'm sorry. It's okay. Do you accept that, baby, Dee? You don't have to know. I want a Louis back got to do what you got to do brother man brother man

brother man brother man brother man moll can put it on the company listen man no fuck no that's coming out your personal account you had a personal night with baby D at the club I wasn't dead I was nowhere round I was watching the what is it called on Netflix

the ungentlemanly warfare if you haven't watched this movie on Netflix Guy Ritchie incredible film to add to his his filmography. That's what I was doing last night. Because that would... Mitch hit me and said, you're moving like me.

When things come into, when things come into play, when you getting calls from other men that love you, like, why were you put in this situation? Why were you around? Why would anybody do this while you hear? Like, that's... So when I, when I now have to explain to my father, no, I swear, I'm safe when I go out with Rory,

he don't always do dumb shit. You don't always do dumb shit. It's funny. He don't always do retarded shit. You see what I'm saying? Because it's like it's... One percent of the 100,000 times we've gone out. I've been fine.

But that's all it takes. But it shows... I know, I agree. That's all it takes. That's all it takes. One time. Dumb decision making, like, oh, I can't... I can't trust that he thinks that my daughter's safety is more important in his ego.

It makes me feel fucking worse. But that's how people learn is by feeling like shit. That's how people... I'm not going to go easy. I know. She's right, though. I know. She's right.

Like, that... Literally something that is very minor and very what you deem is like it's not that serious. Sometimes all it takes us one person to make it that serious. That's what I'm saying. Time and place as men is literally the different. You know the one thing that I know for a fact has saved my life? I never forget. God bless my brother Bob.

One time we was in Harlem and a fight was great to happen. And it was a dude that I went to high school. I was out of high school at the time. But it was, you know, we went to high school. That's my man. he was ready to get into it with somebody we're staying on the corner so I see it happening

I'd get ready to run over there I don't know what's going I just see my man I went to high school with he's squaring up with like three dudes in the middle of the street he got to fight I'm going to run over there my brother Bob grabbed me

and he looked at me he said what are you doing to this day anytime I feel like I'm about to make what do you know it's literally that simple that thought yo what are you doing?

Yeah go see yo go on get out of it, go sit down, relax. Because that's the difference and you being in a fucking cemetery or fucking holding cell, like, I should have just went home. I should have took my ass on.

I should have just went. And it's fucked up, but as men, it literally happens that fast. You understand what I'm saying? And then by the time we all sober and the sun is coming up, it's a new day, we all sitting around like, what the fuck was that about? but in the moment

because ego is here and alcohol is here and there's women here and I like her and I don't want to think I'm some sucker not saying this is you I'm not saying this is you Roy I'm just saying how we think because I thought like that before I wish she was paying the picture

for the bad bitches I wish the bad bitches like it's like yo I mean she shit and we got a little rhythm going on I don't know like I yeah yeah I hold it down yeah then now all of a sudden the situation that was nothing

and that was very minor and stupid is now a real thing. And with that being said, peace, do we have voicemails? And with that said, reason just walked in and it's his fault because I was never going there without him. And now it ain't reason for it.

It ain't reason for it is Rory Farrell's fault for anything that happened that took place last night. And did you apologize the reason for ruining his birthday? Did you apologize the reason? He ruined your fucking birthday. I got calls from the 60s in L.A. They're like, yo, y'all got to.

got my man Reason looking crazy. Like, tell you man, Rory Coolout, poststroke Rory Wylan. And I'm like, yo, what had they? Like, yo, reason in the corner. Yeah, reason in the corner. Like, why they got reason looking crazy? I'm like, yo, bro, I was watching an incredible

Capricade. Wait, Raisin ain't looked crazy? Yes, he did. At all. Me and Reza in the corner looking stupid. Are we like stuff? I was looking like two. Now the niggas is cropping my forehead like,

damn I know the bear's forehead was this big. All because you couldn't just chill. That's really what this is about. And I'm like, that's what this is about. Never mind. This whole father, daughter,

she knows about the board. The whole energy. My cousin turning the camera, putting niggas on camera, I don't feel like talking to. I saw a bitch that was thinking. Oh yeah, forgot about that point.

I saw a bitch that was thinking zoo glass. I'm like, nigga, who is that? Fucking, fuck with D. Who is that? She's thinking zoo glass.

Yeah, like fuck with these niggas talking about. Who's that? But ego, alcohol, content cameras lights lives

niggas start doing the most I asked you to come out for a reason birthday I said remember I asked you to come out for reason birthday he was like now I'm tired I don't feel good Mitch and Major were supposed to be with us like you know but you know just niggas be just doing everybody just need to sit down

not being pussy is the stupidest thing on earth and relax but yeah but some of you ain't got to prove you ain't put I know and guess what I'm at the age I know don't talk let me tell you all something y'all I agree I am 45 years old Saturday Right happy birthday Thank you

The one thing I love about being 45 First of all I never thought I would make it to 45 That's number one So that's a blessing But the one thing I love Is that I could not do nothing I ain't got to do shit I'm not going out why

I'm just not going out I'm home nigga I'm in the house Yo come on you I'm 45 nigga I look crazy being in the club So I'm not going Reason wasn't here for all of my accountability. We can all agree that I took accountability and said I was wrong. Anytime reasons in town, somehow I end up in conflict.

You want to know why? Can I tell you why? What I think? Go ahead. You niggas is full of that elixir. Sipping the devil's nectar and making unholy decisions. If you niggas sit down and sit some of this alkaline and get in tune with yourself, align your chakras.

I agree. And watch the drop. Shout out to my niggas Cimba. Just sit down and relax yourselves. Everybody ain't got to. We know girls love karaoke. Sit the fuck down. Yo, Elliot Wilson texted me this morning and said,

guys love confrontation. No, niggas love alcohol and showing their ass. Niggas love to drink and be dumb. And be stupid. That's what this is all about. And that's why I tell you, when you go out and you don't drink, you notice how stupid everything is. and how dumb and how fast shit turned into something.

Like, what is y'all niggas doing? Y'all are all drunk. I kid you not. Let me tell you when my cousin texts me this morning. And he don't know, he met you one time, Rory. But because you're my brother, you're his brother. And that's just how he carry it. He texted me this morning.

He says, it's just the alcohol. Brothers have to learn to control themselves under the influence. That is a fact. He is correct. And this is coming from the words of somebody who did. 25 years in the penitentiary, who is now in a better place in his life. I could feel it. I could feel it when he grabbed my shoulder.

When he grabbed my shoulder, I could feel the ears. Yeah, but it's just like, but you, he just knows. It's like, bro, it's just the out-nigas got to understand when it's like, yo, I've had too much. Let me just go home. I've had a stroke. I've had a stroke. I should not drink.

I shouldn't be drinking. Let me go home. And I understand. And I'm not blaming on alcohol. No, I want to make that clear. men, men, that is one thing men can never do. Hell no. We can never blame our actions or alcohol.

Women, they get that luxury. Men, we do not get that luxury. Anything you do drunk? Like, only. Men don't get, you have to own your actions. And that's all this conversation today was about where we just own your actions. Making better decisions moving forward. For sure.

I know what your intention was last night. You're not, you weren't looking for a confrontation. No. But to de Maris's point, you may not have been looking for it, but you don't know who is looking for. I agree. And when you open. that door to where it looked like an angle for a nigga to be. My head was on a swivel walking out.

Yeah. So, you know, just, everybody just go. I have a good time. There's women in here. I got, niggas got cologne on his recent birthday. We went past my car. I see two niggas. I had my swivel.

Niggas got on suits. Niggas had suits on. Yeah, like, it ain't, this ain't the place for that, man. Everybody just chill. And like I said, I know you don't, you know, your intentions was, I want to be clear in saying that. We're having a conversation as brothers. I know your intention wasn't bad last night,

but you also have to understand and read the room as a man and understand time and place. Yeah, that's all. I'm with you. Glad we all learned the lesson. This was, I was sitting there. I literally, like, I text Pige. I was like, this is why Mar don't want to hang with us.

No, it ain't that. This why Mar don't want hang with us ever. No, I'm just too. I'm the old head now, man. Here's the thing. If Maul was there, I would have done the exact thing. No, you would have never did that. I guarantee you that.

What? That's Cap you wouldn't have. You would have never did that. I would have never let you do that. I would have. You wouldn't have had time to stop me. Yes, I would have. Yes, I would have.

Because I know you. And I would have saw you getting up. I would have saw your thought that thought bubble. But I didn't gear up. I just walked right there. Once I saw the camera man come, I went right to the light. I saw the thought bubble. As soon as I would have saw the camera man, I saw your thought bubble.

And I'd have like, no. Sit up and relax, nigga. You ain't, you know, no. If you want to have a conversation, have a conversation. Just not on camera. That's all. I would let you have a conversation. I'm not against you.

talking to anybody, but I would have made sure you did it in the right. You would have grabbed my collar? No, I would have just been like, yo, like, you and nah, it's a right way to do things. As men, we got to be cool. Just be cool, bro. Everybody be cool. Mind you, the baddest bitch walked up to Rory yesterday. Thick as zoo glass.

It was so bad. Oh, fuck, I forgot about that. She looked like the girl from baby Keene music video. That could have been my soulmate. Mo Mo Mo, boy. She looked just like Mo Mo Mo Mo Boy. She was fire. He like, oh, hey.

But when I have a conversation with Queens Flip. gay shit pissed me off reason i don't know man i mean but since we're on confrontation like simba got his shoes on someone got shoes on i just want to make sure you got shoes on simba you're taking this hollywood shit too far

you're taking it too far Simba benna hey simma you got shoes on hey baby what's up I got shoes that sponsor you got shoes on all right you got them entire deal is on right oh okay okay I just want to make sure

As long as I thought you had some hard bottoms on. I'm about saying somebody ain't got the hard bottoms on. All right. Well, thank you for that wonderful accountability. This was accountability. We're taking accountability. Accounting. Accounting always seems to pop up with me.

All right. For some reason. I'm very proud of you because I thought Mall was going to come in here and say, we ain't fucking talking about that shit. I really thought you were going to do. No, but we got, listen, man, I'm just, when we talk about everybody else's shit, we got to talk about our shit. They just, that's just what it is.

That's part of the deal with this thing. Which is why I try to be cognizant of the shit that we. Now I now got to come in here and talk about. Yeah. Like I said, I've been in situations where I could have gave us mad shit to come in. I struck Philly. I could have made what I'm scared now that I'm running around. No, I'm not scared.

I'm just like, damn. I wish you would just sit down. But yeah, like it's mad shit I could have did. We could have came here. Y'all could have been like, no, we're talking about that. I'm like, yeah, we got to. And we can wrap this up. But another thing, what if you would have had a stroke?

on camera what if you were to stroke down again like getting worked up what if you would have I drove myself to the hot I had two strokes and I recorded then had another stroke

and drove myself to the hospital I'm built different dangerous part of a nigga having strokes I'm built different and not really damaging him I'm built different it damaged me clearly

my decision making last night was not good you would do that shit pre stroke post stroke breast stroke breast stroke right stroke left stroke what's the best stroke

nigga you would have did that like that's just this is the first time and Pete maybe clip this at the end of the episode this is the first time that I I saw what I thought was AI of me and it was real.

When I was dancing in front of flip, I said, that's a funny AI meme. I said, oh, wait, that's real? That was what you were drunk. Is that when you knew? No, no, no, no. Reason is that what you knew? Reason, reason is that what you knew? That was drunk.

That was drunk as fuck too, though. That was drunk off ego when I, because once I saw the clip, I was like, oh yeah, I did do that. That was ego and some. It was ego of somebody I felt called me a sucker. Let me dance in front of you if I'm a sucker, do something. And that's, I'm wrong. I'm wrong.

I'm wrong. It was ego. It was fucking ego. At the top of the episode, I said what it was, men, alcohol, ego, and women. Bad, worst combination in the world. Worst combination of, many a great men have died because of ego. Ego, alcohol, and women. It just is what it is.

Like, it's just a fact. But, again, hopefully everything is cool. We can wrap this up. I hope. Everything is in a better place. And I hope I will win Demaris's trust back. Yep. And even though she kind of doesn't believe me now,

I really am sorry for putting you in that situation. Sorry, baby, dear. And she's still getting me a side eye, which is fine? No, my bad. I will be sending a picture of my bag. But I apologize for putting you in a situation. I wasn't sure. And also, if they put the brakes on me and reason didn't do anything,

I wouldn't look at reason like he was supposed to. We go bump it out. And yeah, that's what, yeah Yeah, it's just like But then you know what else it would have been? Why? Like, why? What was just dumb?

Because I've been in that situation so many times. Yeah. I got my ass because my friends was doing dumb shit. Like, well, I guess we get an ass-women today. We're too old for that. We too old for that. That's what I'm saying? We too old for that.

25? If you was 25, I'm like, bro, you're like, just, think you go. Just sit down. But when you have a stroke, your brain goes back. You never know. Yeah, man, but you got to, you know. You remember.

remember the nick of called you a sucker though you didn't forget that process was mad clear yeah yo you saw the light i was on the hospital bed seeing the leg on so the light was like oh shit queens flip content he about to come over here you did all that math yeah yeah but didn't do the math of let me i'm dumb man i'm dumb sometimes so good um if we can get hollywood simba i think we go to patreon maybe we sit with sima let's let's go to patreon let's talk to simba um i mean the fuck Let's have reason to him, Patreon. Why not? Let's make it.

To really prove that we love the West Coast. To really prove that we love the West Coast. We have alliances and allies on the West. I do want to, we could ask Ryan maybe on Patreon. The way we've seen him move around people from the Bay, do you consider Simba, a Bay Legend, too? Yeah. I ain't like that tone. Yeah, you never, you didn't.

I ain't like that tone. You was not about to ask him for a picture. Take a photo? What? You're going to send it to your dad? Yeah, you don't got, you don't got Simba's first mixtape. You know what I mean? See?

When E40 came, you had seven vinals. He had seven vinals, two CDs. You had mad shit for E40 to sign. My man Simba got the hottest show out right now. Yeah, man. Like, what's up with you, man? But all right, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe.

Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. We're on our way to Patreon. I meet a stir. Didn't catch the latest Roland Martin Unfiltered podcast? Here's what you missed. People wake up and go, oh, damn.

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