New Rory & MAL - Episode 552 | Forefathers

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

Fresh off his birthday weekend, we catch up with Mal and his whereabouts, and Rory recaps his trip to Atlanta for Queens Day. Outkast launches a collab with Waffle House, which leads the guys to discu...ss who some artists are that they want to drop music. Victoria Monet announces the tracklist for “Frequency of Love”, and Megan Thee Stallion releases “TINA TUESDAY Freestyle”, which the internet was killing Baby D for her take on the state of women’s rap. Mal shares his stance on Get Ready With Me videos, and we take a voicemail from a listener who is questioning if he is racist or not. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:20 what's up man how you feeling feel 45 oh yeah you had a birthday I did have a birthday happy birthday was a hurricane of my birthday
Starting point is 00:03:29 does that mean something they was tearing your ass up on the internet I love that. Did you see it, though? Of course I did. It was pretty funny. That was funny as far. Everybody sent it to me.
Starting point is 00:03:38 They sent it to me. Oh, when it gets the Biggs, then you know. It's viral when it gets to Biggs. Everybody sends it to me. And then like three girls was like, you ain't got one yet. I'll give you one. So I just want to let y'all know you out there laughing. I got three waiting, three ovens waiting to get baked.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Yeah, but like. That was the ultimate, but do I get pussy, though, response. But does the dough ride? Do I get bitches? Do the dough rise. Do the dough rise. Have you ever made anybody get an abortion? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Why are you trying to jam me up? Like you're one of those black women that try to jam a nigga up into years later. That clip goes viral years later like your mom made a woman get an abortion. Let me rephrase. Yes, please. Have you ever had sex with a consensual partner and you guys decided together that a child should not come from this interaction? Yeah, of course. While she was pregnant?
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah. Oh, okay, cool. Because we was just making, because you say gay or the plummet is off. I mean, how far along? So you're plumbing not off. Like a month pregnant, like maybe six weeks. I don't really count, dude. That's like a little tadpole.
Starting point is 00:04:40 That's, I don't really count. Does it? I'm pro-choice, whatever a woman wants to do with her body. No, no, no. It was her choice. You know what I mean? I was happy about her choice, though. Like, I celebrate.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I rejoiced in her choice. Yes. You were celebrating your Democratic duty. Exactly. You're just so liberal that you had to do that. Right. I remember what's the name of the chick from girls? Which one?
Starting point is 00:05:05 She was super talented. Like the main one that wrote everything. She said she was jealous that she hadn't had an abortion yet because she wanted to like go through that experience and feel what women felt. And then they said then they canceled the series. Wait. Yeah, Liam to her. Oh, she was super talented.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And girls was a phenomenal fucking show. Hold on, hold on. Did she actually say that? already got some about same names. All allegedly. All alleged. We don't know. It was an article, man.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I don't, yeah, but I don't know. It was her quote. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying it's allegedly. Well, we can't talk about that case, maul. It's still pending. Yeah, exactly. How did you feel about your dissertation swag?
Starting point is 00:05:48 Dissertation, what's that called? Deposition swag. Dissertation. What the fuck am I talking about? That's why we're in this fucking situation now. Oh, oh. Your deposition swag? What I call with the lawyers?
Starting point is 00:05:59 Yeah. I don't know. to me they were cool they were cool it was formalities legalities I had hit me a few times to laugh but you know they wanted to laugh they were just like all right come on man what is this this is you know this is stupid but anyway another day of pardon but yes what did you do for your birthday I was stuck in a hurricane okay
Starting point is 00:06:18 is that is that like an omen on my birthday like the skies opened up for three days it didn't stop raining for three days and and your tweet appeared Yeah. And who was the first one? Was that like a Kendrick Lamar page? Yo, I'm fucking crying. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Fuck whoever was behind that page. They was waiting for your ass. They was waiting for your ass. They was waiting. You know they was holding that. That's Kierre right there. That's a friend of the show. She didn't find it, though.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I was going to say somebody had sent that to me way before she did, before his birthday even happened. Somebody probably had that in the tucks since like 2014. Of course. And had this on their calendar. They've been waiting. They've been waiting 12 years for that. get a life
Starting point is 00:06:58 I also think you're hiding kids so that was really gonna be my I think you have a family somewhere you think I have kids like a wife I think you have a nuclear family somewhere in New Hampshire it takes you three hours to get here every day
Starting point is 00:07:13 so you think that I would have a family and you wouldn't know at all like a kid and everything you're crazy shut up you don't believe that I don't believe that it's fun to think about of course it's fun to think about
Starting point is 00:07:24 of course it's fun It's fun to laugh at that. I laughed. Oh, shit. I'd be thinking shit. I'd have tweeted out of us. I did tweet that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So did any women kayaks your residents? Like, they tried. But I was like, we'll save it for another day. The bank is open. Don't worry about it. It wasn't even that bad, though. What? It was bad if you lived on the coast.
Starting point is 00:07:46 But like, it wasn't bad if you lived in the middle of the city. We were from New York City. Well, the coast of the water. Shit. If you lived by some water, it was bad. If you lived in the middle of the city, it was just heavy rain. No, it was wind. It was all kind of shit happening to baby.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Do some wind. But I thought it was going to be like hurricane, like a hurricane hurricane hurricane. But it didn't. It was like two, three days of it, though. I didn't leave the house. I don't know. Just shut up. You don't even know.
Starting point is 00:08:11 You don't even know what was going on out there. I was watching for the window. I was crazy. Like that type of, but we haven't had days of rain like that in a long time. I don't know. I felt like it's been raining for all of 2026. Well, all some of you know.
Starting point is 00:08:24 To the point that my roof has given in and I. All summer in New York, it definitely rained a lot this summer. We had a very rainy summer this summer. But it wasn't like three days of consistent rain the summer. Yeah. It rained like three days out of the week this summer. But not the way. Three days straight, that was crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:41 But I was like, you know, it's cool, man. I thought we were going to leave town. I was, I wanted to. Everywhere I looked, it was raining. I looked at like four different island destinations. It was rain the whole week. I was like, you know what, man? Because there's nothing worse than flying to an island.
Starting point is 00:08:54 And it's rain. And it's raining and you just sitting in the fucking villa just looking outside and listening to Bob Marley. It's like, nah, well, I could have seen. Not as fire though. That sounds peaceful. You want a villa and I can't go. I can't like go in a pool. Like I'm not going to be in the pool while I was raining.
Starting point is 00:09:08 That's just like. Sure. You wear a t-shirt in a pool? Do I wear a t-shirt in a pool? Yeah. Why would I wear a t-shirt in the pool? People be doing that. Rory don't be in a pool chest out.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Like he'd be having like a little. I did that one time and that was at Amara's swim lessons because I didn't know proper protocol when you're in the pool with kids. Oh. So I was. fully garment down. I didn't know how you were supposed to dress around kids. He don't want to end up on that list so bad. He don't want to show his nipples.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Roy, think he got to cover his nipples around kids. Did I ever tell you one of the most traumatic things ever said to me? No. I was running in Lincoln Park. This was, I think I might have still been in college. And I had my shirt off and I was running around in the park in the summertime.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And there was a bunch of kids, like they were in high school. and one of them yelled, he got pink nipples, and everyone started dying, bro. I was, okay, there it is. I was devastated. There it is. That's the trauma. Ma, there is. Look how fast we identified the trauma.
Starting point is 00:10:06 He got picked down. I was like, oh, no. So Rory is so conscious about his pink ariolas, and he didn't want to have them around kids because they probably would have thought that they were, like, peach rings. Pause. Oh, my God. All right, Ma, Ma. All right, whoa.
Starting point is 00:10:19 We're entering into territory. Pause. That's his trauma. I'm insecure about certain things. I actually think I have very nice nipple. I don't know like how I feel about that. I don't know about how a man saying he feels like he has nice nipples. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:10:33 How do you come to that? I don't have an insecurity about them as well. Who are you comparing them to? Only amongst myself. What girl told you that? No girl is. Men only repesiate that women tell us. Like when we were like, yo, we got nice, like nice cheekbones.
Starting point is 00:10:45 A woman said that. You didn't know you had nice cheekbones until a woman. Yeah, like you don't know you got long eyelashes or you don't know that. You know what I'm saying? You have nice skin until a woman tells you. Like you just, it's just my skin. I don't know that. Well, I only knew that because the girl cousins used to try to put mascara on my eyelashes when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And they were bigger. So they, like, would hold me down. Oh, they were like, those are big dims right there. They tried to turn you out early. Clearly. Please. So the people listening that have kids, the men out there can relate to this. It is funny when your baby confuses your nipple with its mother's nipple.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Like, I would wake up and Amara be attached. I'm like, Amar, get the fuck off my nipple. That's wild. Yeah. Oh, bro. You gotta throw her like pause. Fuck off. Get to fuck off me, Mara.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Just latching on nipples around. Like, what's going on right now? Yeah, man. They can barely see and shit at that age. So it's like shapes and, yeah, that's always rough. So maybe do you use an house over here? Mm-hmm. I left, I think Monday, our day off, I went to the Bronx to see Alex.
Starting point is 00:11:44 But other than that, I didn't leave. What part of the Bronx? I had enough outside. You said what? A part of the Bronx. I don't fucking know. The low part. that's like right above Astoria.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So bro. Wait, above, like above a story. It's like, okay, if you look at, okay, so you know how Queens is like this, this is Astoria, and then it's that water. And in the Bronx, it's like down here. Like, Bruckner. Oh, okay. Brunner.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Over there, yeah. Okay. Using the hood. A little bit. Yeah, I'm just the hood. I mean, is there anything that the Bruckner runs through that is not the hood. Gentrification is real, though. I call it sober.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You know what I got, I was. this is supposed to say you know they got so bro. So bro. I'm never referring to the South Bronx. So bro. I'm never doing that. They put a target next to Concourse Village and it was over
Starting point is 00:12:35 after that. There was nothing but which high-rise condos now. They was trying to call Harlem Noma, North Manhattan. Ew. That's ugly. I'm like, that is not going to stick.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Nobody is calling Harlem Noma. I mean, Hamilton Heights to me is still funny. The west side of Ireland they call Hamilton Heights. I'm like, when the fuck? Did that come? Oh, so I guess that's technically Mott Haven.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Oh, man. Oh, you was in the Y. They haven't gentrified there yet. Yeah, they gingerfied. My haven may just stay there. They gentrified over there. The bludson are the crimson on the same block. They gentrified the fuck out of Ma' Haven.
Starting point is 00:13:15 It used to just be the Latin Kings. Yeah. Oh, shit. I love the Bronx. Well, we've been away from each other for, week. Yes, we have. Did you guys miss me? Yeah. Oh, I haven't. What the fuck? I missed pink eye peach. I came here and told him I missed him. I missed pink eye. Oh, no. Oh, not today. So, stout them strip clothes, man. He said not today. All right. So when did that happen? I missed a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I missed the whole North Easter. I was in Atlanta for most of it. And it was beautiful down there. Oh, did you go to Montreal? You went? Yeah. How was it? It was amazing. one of my favorite cities man I was delayed a lot because of the storms up here but Montreal was like summer you just had to fly over the bullshit to get to Montreal so I stayed in Atlanta longer than I wanted to because I wanted to be in Montreal more time
Starting point is 00:14:09 because I spend more time in Atlanta than I do Montreal respect to Atlanta but Atlanta was great shot with Prince did Queens Day hung out with Justice and Belly Gang it was like just Atlanta experience yeah it was fun we'll see in Belly Gang yeah we were at the LVR and office It's just when there's no hose around, let's just argue rat for three hours. It was one of those nights.
Starting point is 00:14:30 How do y'all still fall into those conversations? Rory starts to come. The only conversation. First of all, I did not this time. I think a lot of people that watch the pod or just are podcast listeners in general, when they see a podcaster want to start arguing. Very true. Why Ebe couldn't do that when he saw me?
Starting point is 00:14:47 All right. We're going to cut. Thought we were going to have a good episode. No, this is a good. It's a great episode. But why Ebe couldn't just start talking music with me? Because you just talk about his man. It's not music.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It was about the music and the lack thereof. That's all. It all stems from music, though. Like, I just want to be clear. It stems from this thing we love called hip-hop music. That's, you know what I mean? So it's like, you see how you see Belly Gang and it's just like conversations. It just happened.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Well, why I liked having the conversation with Belly Gang and his friend, his gang. His associate. I don't use it in that term. because they're all from Atlanta. So they have like a completely different perspective when arguing hip hop. So yeah, it was fun, healthy conversation. Okay. Then I got on the plane and went to Montreal.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Listen, I've been to a lot of great weddings. Food has never disappointed at any wedding I've been to. So I mean this with no disrespect. Yanni slash child had the greatest food I've ever had at a wedding in my entire life. Ethiopian food all catered. It was, I like, I didn't even care about the wedding. It was like six plates in. Like, oh, damn, they got married.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I thought we were at a smorgas board. Just greedy and farting around all the East African women. Listen, man. It was an incredible. Yeah, they was in there. But how do you tell your man's like, respectfully, all your cousins are beautiful? Just like that, right there. Your respectfully, all your cousins is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Like, that whole table of cut? Like, let me know when y'all want to do this. So who else getting married? Because you know Ethiopians, African, they get married every week. Every week, it's an African wedding. Open your IG right now. I guarantee you it's an African wedding happen. If it's catered the same way, I'm there.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Man. We should do wedding crashes just for African weddings. Just for Ethiopian versions? Oh, man, they know how to put, they know how to throw a sororay. Oh, no. It was a really, really, really good time. Shout to Yanni and Lauren. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Beautiful, beautiful wedding. Thank you for having me there. I had a blast. It was a good time. me next to D Mile. So more music. Yeah. Come on man. And we kind of debated me. Yeah. He threw all of us in one table that was like music industry friends. Yeah. Yeah. Put all them right there. But no, it was a really good time. That's what's up, man. Montreal is still like one of those beautiful. Oh, God. So the wedding was in like the middle of the
Starting point is 00:17:15 F1 track. Okay. Like they have a park that's like super beautiful there. And on the way there, I'm like, did I type in the wrong? I feel like I'm on a fucking. I feel like I'm on a fucking racetrack right now and I'm open the map and I'm literally on the F1. Like you pulled up like a pit stop to get to the wedding. It was insane. That's dope. So, but yeah, that was really, you know, my weekend and then had a 7 a flight. That got canceled. Uh, so then I spent 12 hours in Montreal airport. Um, in airport, why are you going to leave? Because they said my flight was at three, then my flight Oh, they kept doing. I hate when it was shit. I hate that. I could have been a bit.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Because they know, they know exactly when the flight is going out. Yeah. Like they know. They just like, they're going to keep telling you like three o'clock, five o'clock, seven, nine. It's like, come on, man. I could have been enjoying the city. Like, I didn't have to sit at this terminal for fucking six hours. On top of that, I told Yanni at like seven hour. Oh, my flight's canceled. He's like, we're doing another celebration. All I'm thinking about is like they probably have leftovers. Oh, they definitely. So, but instead, Eric Canada gave me a $10 food voucher, which buys you, I don't know, a bag of chips in an airport. Oh, thanks, Air Canada for this $10. $10. And then they lost my bag. And then they delivered. They won't your bag to get the $10. They lost my bag. Then they delivered me the wrong bag to my house. I just had somebody else's bag in my house. It was just one of those days. But I did end up getting my bag back. And the guy that delivered it was a podcast fan and he said, yo, you saved my job. I was like, listen, man. It's clearly not the same back. saved his job how because he dropped off the wrong bag
Starting point is 00:18:55 oh okay okay yes okay got it and I called him because I pulled up after I took a marred to the allergist and when I came back I just see a bag covered in Supreme stickers and I'm like what they tag my bag up that is not my bag
Starting point is 00:19:08 yeah and he was on his way to go deliver that and it said three of three so I'm looking around like my driver like is there three other bags yeah he fucked it all up okay well you got it bag so
Starting point is 00:19:20 So he said it was his Patreon money, went to good use to save his job. Well, appreciate him, man. Thank you so much for that, man. And he came out of the car with big ass headphones on. I'm like, you're not even paying attention. That's why you got the wrong bags. Focus. But no, it was a really good weekend.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I had a good time and skip the storm. My roof didn't cave in, so all is well. Oh, that's good. Yeah. What do we have on the list here? Outcast Waffle House. We don't know what it is. They drop in something.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Next month. Well, this month. October 2nd, they posted on their Instagram and on their Twitter. Just a Waffle House sign with Gator Belts and Paddy Meltz, which is a line from So Fresh and So Clean. Are we getting a new Outcast album that you can only listen to in Waffle House? Gator Belt and Patty Meltz. This feels like, I'm going to say this definitely. like an album. I was going to go with just like a collab
Starting point is 00:20:24 menu or something. Like you know like the Waffle House like laminated. I think it should be like outcast inspired. Like just for a dish? I think it's just like rename the dishes. Like Gator Belt and Paddy Meals. I hope to God it's an album
Starting point is 00:20:41 but I just, I don't see it. Yeah, I don't see an album either. Why not? And what does it have like, how does it tie in with Waffle House. They even collabed with Waffle House on Instagram. Maybe that's the name of the single. I would hope so. I'm just not getting my hopes up. That's going to happen. Well, we definitely want Outcast music, no? Am I the only one that?
Starting point is 00:21:07 No, of course I do. I just, I don't really see that being a thing. But what could it be? Like, do you think this is food? I think they're just going to dress up a Waffle House. Like, I feel like brands at this point, because we're just hit with So much shit are just finding ways to do collabs and make things interesting. The Waffle House is doing numbers. I've never been an empty Waffle House in my life. Yeah, like the Waffle House is doing numbers.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Really? Mm-hmm. Oh, you're not going at the right hours. Oh, see? All right, now we're getting more. Madja, we're recording in real time. This just came out. It looks like it's merch.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's merch. Sorry, we're really getting this in real time. Because before it was just a sign. All right, yeah, we're getting. We're getting Waffle House Outcast merch. That's kind of fire, though. I'm with it.
Starting point is 00:21:55 No, I'm copping. Yeah, take that kith. Yeah, I kind of want that. Yeah, it's actually kind of fire. Can you only get it at Waffle House, though? Because that sucks for us. I was going to say, like, can y'all, like, have it sent to us, please? What's the closest Waffle House?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Jersey? No. Maryland. I know the exit if I see it, if that makes sense. Shit. Like, right when you hit Maryland, it's like one of the first exits, and the Waffle House is right up there on the left. Oh, me, you can get it at Outcast.com. So it's okay.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Okay. Is this why they sued Overcast? Probably. Waffle House said we've got to dot our eyes. Yeah, that is interesting. That that happened and then now they're doing this collab merch with a Waffle House. Like it is interesting that that thing, what came out was that last week? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And again, I mean, I still see people killing Outcast and I know context never matters and it's a third party that owns their trademark that I don't know if they have much control over to begin with. but I'm sure they need to do some trademarking when they were doing this with Wapwows and maybe that just got folded into the agenda. But that, I mean, if I'm overcast I would be a little mad like, I'm getting sued because you guys want to do t-shirts
Starting point is 00:23:03 with Wapwows? Leave me the fuck alone. I mean, I get it though. I understand it. But okay, we're getting merch. All right. I would rather music, but music and merch is kind of the same,
Starting point is 00:23:16 one and the same, right? I guess. Yeah. If you view it that way. Yeah, that's okay. I'll take some merch. I just got sent in Outcast, like, soccer jersey. Are they just trying to get rid of their inventory to make way for the new shit? Somebody just sent you an outcast soccer jersey?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Well, the company that was like the third party sent it to me. That's for my size. And they sent the hoodie as well. But, okay, yeah. I don't know, man. Great. I don't think it's leading to music. Three stacks may play the flute next to the.
Starting point is 00:23:48 next to the Waffle Maker and I think that's as far as we'll get. It got to be music though. I think that's just your hopes and your dreams. I just don't understand why they would do this collab with Wafel and there's no music attached to it. I don't think we'll ever get another outcast album again. No, I think that's over.
Starting point is 00:24:04 But it is a hip-hop staple and, you know, to stay, I don't want to say to stay relevant because they'll always be relevant, but it's like, you know, we have this historical group. We can do shit like this that is cool, that fans are excited about. and it's going to make us money. Why not?
Starting point is 00:24:19 It's like you're sitting at home making money off of nothing. So no brain there. Yeah, but if Outcast was to put out new music and then tour. That's mad work. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's like work. You hate going on tour. Yeah, but I mean, I'm not going on tour because I was on tour.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I took a break. No, what was the tour? It wasn't that long ago. Remember when Three Stacks had like those jumpsuits that had a bunch of different messages? That wasn't that long ago, right? Yeah, that was Damn, it probably was over 10 years ago But then again, by outcast standards
Starting point is 00:24:52 That was that that long ago? By outcast standards, no So, I mean, they have been on tour Sort of recently 2014 Festival Circuit Oh, they were doing the reunion, okay Yeah, I don't really see this
Starting point is 00:25:07 12 years Three stacks says he doesn't want to rap anymore He's not inspired I don't think since he said that He got super inspired in the last eight months to put an Outcast album out. I would love that, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Well, either way, I'm getting that hoodie. Yeah, for sure. I'm getting money for them. Outcast hoodie. Who do y'all want new music from outside of people? Like, Outcast? Like, who are you really like, damn? Like, y'all always say, like, I wouldn't mind new music.
Starting point is 00:25:37 But, like, who do y'all want new music from? Sa' hi. Saha, for sure. But he did say the music, the album's done. And, you know. I kind of pressed him when I saw him last month. Let me stop saying that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I'm not. I'm careful these days. That word has been going around a little too loosely. Not in press, I'm joking. That's my guy. But I bumped into him and he told me he was, you know, wrapping up the album,
Starting point is 00:25:59 final mixes and things like that. And I think he, I think he tweeted or announced the story of Mr. Egot is done. So I'm looking forward to that. I would like to hear new belly album. Yeah. My favorite rappers.
Starting point is 00:26:14 belly saha like I want I want new music from them I'll take new JZ music too do you want new JZ music or would you take it that's a difference no I want it
Starting point is 00:26:29 I feel like it's it's a certain audience that appreciates that type of rap and that you know I was looking forward to what Jay has to say at this stage of his life well you know we're in podcast where you're not allowed to change your mind.
Starting point is 00:26:46 So they're going to put this side-by-side clip with you a few months ago saying you don't want cheesy music. You're not allowed to- You have to stick with that opinion. Well, yeah. But because people are going to, you know, waiting the shit on it. You know, Jay fell off and, you know, he's too old and da-da-da-da-da. You know, that's what I don't want it because of that.
Starting point is 00:27:03 But, like, as it's a Jay fan and somebody that grew up listening to the music and, you know, like, I mean, right now just rap music sucks. like there's a couple you know good projects shout out to arrow holding he just dropped supreme supreme magnetic three i'm listening to that like i just had that on loop for the past 24 hours listening to that type of rap um so yes it's i think it's certain rap is that we always need in the ecosystem like you know with this new age and with this new generation is doing this you know it's cool but it's just a certain level of rap that i just appreciate that i think kind of like get discouraged of dropping music in a climate like this because it's like they feel like it's not going to be appreciated and you know you still to an extent have to play
Starting point is 00:27:50 the numbers game and things have to perform well and all of those things but you know that's what I said I'm looking forward to the Saha project because that's always high level raps um belly is just one of my favorite rappers ever and one of the greatest songwriters ever so to hear new music from him I would I'm always down for that um but yeah um this isn't really anything to do with the Jenae album, but it is a plus. I would like to hear some new big Sean music. Okay. I feel like it's been a minute, and in my opinion, Sean always delivers great albums.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I mean, that's obviously up for opinion, but, you know, it's been, what, two, two, three years since we've gotten some show on music. I feel like he has a lot to say. Outside of just the Jenae thing, I think he's been through a lot of stuff that I would, you know, like to hear from. I hope Tiana Taylor did not retire Oh yeah, she said she retired, right? Yeah I mean Tiana, she was nominated for Oscar Like she got other she got big shit happen
Starting point is 00:28:55 That movie money be good I'm not fighting with these industry artist niggas fighting for points I'm about to go ag She held her own next to fucking Decaprio and Sean Penn Like two fucking Hollywood icons Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:09 And, like, held her own on screen. Like, yeah, I don't think we get no Tiana album, no time soon. I mean, just as a fan, I would love a Tiana project. I could see Tiana getting, like, a Bond girl role. Okay. I could see her being Bond, the first female bond. The first female bond. Like, I could see her in that type of role where it's like.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Or Laura Croft. That too. Right. Yeah. Any type of sexy spy. She'd kill Catwoman. Yeah. Destroy.
Starting point is 00:29:37 But we don't need Catwoman again. You didn't like how Hallie was playing basketball? Do that to my bitch. I love Hallie. You know I love Hallie Barry. That's my old time. That was just bad writing, though. That wasn't.
Starting point is 00:29:48 It was terrible. It was bad writing. Yeah, we don't. We just need a better writer for the character. So, like, introduce, you're talking about a catwoman movie or bring Catwoman back into the new Batman? Because it's a difference. Well, Catwoman has already been back into the new Batman. A couple of them, actually.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah, but they'd be rotating who plays that stuff. That was Anne Hathaway, right? it depends on the iteration of Batman that they're doing so Anne Hathaway was Bruce's catwoman and then when they switched it to Robert Pattinson Zoe Kravitz had it right so and right now she's a good job yeah it's always a good yeah so I don't think they're that's fairly new I don't think they're going to be looking for a new batwoman and cat Batman and catwoman anytime soon because that had the penguin spin off which was really good just make Tiana like the bond girl like you know James Wong gonna be at the beach in Greece and then you know she's
Starting point is 00:30:39 She'll come walking around the corner and supreme shape. And it'll be a British guy who's now attracted to this beautiful black woman who just happens to be one of the most wanted women in the world. I can see Tiana playing that role. I can see that for her. And she do the soundtrack. Yeah, have a song on there. Kill two birds and one stoner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Okay. I like y'all looks. I saw that Solange was in the studio. I'll take it. I'll always take it. There was a little video of her in the studio. And it looked like when those earthy, cool studios where it's like, I'm really here to make music type of thing.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Salangeload, yeah, this was a clip. She was with Summer, which is another one. A Summer and Solange record would be. I'm ready to be bitter and heal at the same time. Yes. Need that. Bitter and healed. Need that.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Women are so crazy. Tell that, nigga, he ain't shit. but tell him that he's also just a victim of systemic racism and oppression and that's why he's oppression. Like, come on, Salange. You understand why he ain't shit. Yeah, we understand why, but we still going to request better from you. I understand why you ain't shit,
Starting point is 00:31:51 but I request better from you. I can respect that. Yeah. Understand. Understand my pain and my story. You know, and then try to like meet me somewhere halfway and like, you know, make it work. I respect that. Yeah, well, I mean, Solange, top of my list. But we also were getting,
Starting point is 00:32:09 Victoria Monnet music. That new victorious thing was incredible. Reach out. That one or the other one or the slower one? I don't know. Juicy. You're talking about juicy or reach out? The one which is like four of her in the video.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's four victorious. That's the one. That song is fire. Well, she put out the track list, Frequency of Love, which has Siza, Lucky Day, Bruno Mars, Bryson, Taylor, Chloe and Leon Thomas as features
Starting point is 00:32:38 I ain't a lot. That's some really good. They reached deep in their bag for that. Who she signed to? They win. They pocket. She was RCA. I think she still is.
Starting point is 00:32:50 That's why I love you with Bruno Mars. That might go diamond already just by the title and it being Bruno Mars. Yeah. That's why I love you with Bruno Mars. Like that's all he has to say. Yeah, that sounds like you're going to hear that every time you walk past a. That's the main. That's a new wedding song.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Every time you woke past a for a four, that's playing. Yeah. single with Bryson Tiller smash already Bryson getting this single shit off come on what is the name of the song where it's four Victoria's in the video
Starting point is 00:33:17 Juicy I think you're talking about Is it called juicy? I mean juicy is on the album I love that song That song's dope Victoria is dope Victoria is a part Now Victoria is incredible
Starting point is 00:33:32 Victoria is a perfect artist I don't think she gets her just due She really is a perfect artist Well she you know Victoria is she's had her time in industry. She was, you know, writing and... Writing and stuff, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I think even singing background for a few people. Yeah. She's had her. She's, you know, she's... She has her time in. Maybe not as much time as a solo artist, but she's put her time in an industry for sure. Who do we think, uh, you hurt me too was about?
Starting point is 00:34:01 You hurt me too? Yeah. That's a good... I mean... You don't want to be on the other side of that pin. I know that. I hope that's a I'm not taking any accountability. type of record.
Starting point is 00:34:12 If you, my face being hurt, will you hurt me too? That's the angle you hold Victoria's hook? Yeah. Okay. And I hope it's about... You just be thought. You gotta, you gotta chill, boy. All right, bleep it out.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Thank you. Why? Why are we bleeping that? I don't know. Bleeping it or keeping it. Bleep it or keeping it is a game. We should play that game on our Patreon one day where we just make statements. Bleep it or keep it?
Starting point is 00:34:40 Blip it or keep it. I'm stamping it. Nobody's still at. Bleep it or keep it. Brian, table it at. Well, the first one was, as you can tell now, was bleeped. So I didn't stand on business for the first bleeper. Yeah, you're supposed to keep that. I would have kept that. And we should be able to go take something that you bleep.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I should be able to take that. Like, I should be able to unbleep that. Yeah, I'm going to steal it. I'm going to steal it. You know how Colin Joseph and Michael Chee do like the joke swaps on Christmas for S&L? What if we went for every Christmas, went back to old episodes and we get to unbleep certain things that the person's at really really stir shit up yeah we'll do we can do do that like we'll go back and look at some of our unbelief infamous bleeps and be like yo what you bleep
Starting point is 00:35:22 right there nah because i can't remember a lot of shit i bleep no let's neither can i i can't i can't i just can't remember if me and p's ain't bleep it don't we don't we only need to go back and uncover it was bleep for a reason no but i'm just like if you just like if we pull up the clip and like we bleak something like i would like to guess what we bleeped okay i'm i'm with that yeah leave in random words. Ball for me's like, what's up? Like, what you bleep right there?
Starting point is 00:35:49 You know what they're going to say. You know what he bleep. Like next time, Rory go to say, what's up, my brother, just bleep the brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely bleeping brother. Don't call me brother. Don't do that. Now I can never even say, please.
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Starting point is 00:37:20 ontario.ca. Lisa? We should tell them about our new show. Oh my God, Lexi. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Iwano. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. I'm not going get anyone fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you today. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. And I've always got something to say. If men were just honest about this, there would be so much more peace in the world. We're going to talk about dating, relationships, beauty, getting older, and a little wiser. We're best friends, but we don't always
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Starting point is 00:39:37 of the Artists on Artists on Artists podcast. The Improvised Character Comedy Podcast were each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of wellness influencers. What I try to do is faux journal. I don't know. Have you guys heard of faux journaling?
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah, it's reading. It's called reading. So we don't like to use that word anymore. A panel of New Yorker cartoonists. Have you guys done Terry Gross's Peloton class? No! I've been dying too. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:06 I'm seeing a reading of Sadako and the Thousand Paper Cranes by Audra McDonald's at the Wonderland Bookstore. 14. That's crazy. I went to the Wonderland Bookstore yesterday and I heard Nora Jones do a reading of Zero Dark 30. No way. You have to come to the last bookstore though. Kim Cottrell is reading the guitar tabs of yesterday. A panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up? He winks on Halloween. He gets right up next to the microphone.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other. You never seen Italy so quiet as Wonder Pope gets a little. to wink on Halloween. Listen to artists on artists on artists on artists on artists on the IHeard radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Anyways, what else do we have on this list? I like Meg's new freestyle. I don't know why everyone's killing it, man.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I didn't hear it. She raps about the same shit, so does everyone else. She, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, is it Clay? Huh? No. They rap about the same shit, but like every rapper, she rap about the same shit. You can play that clip right there, so I can hear it. Sounds good.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah. Killing her for that? I mean they're saying it's the same thing they said make rap about the same thing they said she has the same all we can't do that see this is this is the problem I have with niggas we can't say meg rap around about the same thing when 97% of rappers rap about the same thing yeah that's what I said is why we call them goats
Starting point is 00:41:32 because they had they rap about yeah like come on man don't don't do that then meg like don't make her the you know she rapping about the same thing post the girl like don't do that because at 97% of you rappers I could play all of your albums and they all you the content is the same you niggas is in miami with a roly top down like and buss and bottles like all right man and they don't wrap is that as well as her and that's my thing same flow okay there's a lot of rappers with the same flow that's not as intricate as meg's say heyda hada hara yeah you got the same flow too and it sucks at least meg actually has a good flow three times and she did people don't understand and i'm not this isn't this isn't this isn't
Starting point is 00:42:14 a diss to Nikki because Nikki's amazing and this isn't her fault. But Nikki came out and made rapping animated. So they think if you're not switching the pitch of your voice, that you're not switching your flow. That is a completely different thing. If you rap monotone but switch your flow, they're like, oh, you sound the same on every record. You're not switching your flow.
Starting point is 00:42:30 She is switching her flow. She's not switching the pitch of her voice. She doesn't sound like three different girls in one song. That's what people are getting confused with because that's what the female rapper that people grew up listening to. You're right to marriage, but I think deeper than that. I think people have just put Meg in this thing where it's just cool to kind of like not like Meg. Yeah, I think that is a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Like, I think Meg is unfortunately in that space of she has a section or a whole sector of people that just like don't like her. And no matter what she does, soon as she puts something out, they're going to express some type of disdain or dislike for it. Because if you're saying she rap about the, come on, man. Don't do that. She's become the poster woman for the Twitter accounts that ironically all tweet about the same shit and it's hating women. Right. Anytime you typically see that from a man that's tweeting about Meg, just go to his page. He raps about the same things too.
Starting point is 00:43:28 It's complaining about women in every tweet. It's the same thing. Like, don't. The women, but the women have been turned on Meg. The women have been turned on Meg and y'all know why, but I can't say it because I'm a woman, so I'm just shut up. Okay. And this is no beef with the barbs. Just using this as an example.
Starting point is 00:43:46 The women that are tweeting about this, if you click their page, is it like Lexi Minaj? No, there's other women too. But Meg became a hit piece for women when she locked one of their favorite R&B singers up. That's when Meg became a hit piece for women. She didn't lock anybody up. If you let them tell it. If you look at the court documents, that says the state of California versus. If you let them tell it.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Like, I mean... With evidence of a jail call. Yeah, like, I just don't, you know, you can't put that on. If you let them tell it. And it also be a lot of women, like... People don't be fans of, like, hip-hop music. They just be fans of, like, artists. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:44:27 So it's like, you're not a fit. Like, complaining that Meg wraps about the same thing. I'm sent a pair, like, there's no way y'all listen to hip-hop. Because most... And then I bought a push-a-tee, and they said, you're comparing Meg to Push-a-Tee? I said, no, I'm not comparing them skill-wise. What I'm saying is push has been rapping. about Coke for the longest.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Well, he's wrapped with other stuff too. Yes, so has Meg. But he ties the core of his racks by other things, but he ties it into bricks. Yeah, he's going to tie it into.
Starting point is 00:44:51 He's going to tie it into. He's going to tie it in. I just bought a new home. Built with, built with bricks. Brick by brick. It's more leaving the space on it for us. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:01 I know what I'm going to say. I just bought a new home. Brick by brick. Brick by brick. Like, yeah. So it's like, it's essentially the same.
Starting point is 00:45:09 You find different ways to just say the same. thing. Like, I think that's, you know, a skill set in rap into making music. Like, you know, the content is still there. You just find different ways to talk. Like, Jake still talks about street shit. It's just how he talks about it. You get what I'm saying? So essentially it's the same thing. It's, I've now developed a way to just say it differently and to kind of like, you tie it into something that's not illegal. And, you know, just that that's part of just growth, maturity. and, you know, developing
Starting point is 00:45:41 just an extensive vocabulary to kind of, you know, get people what they're familiar with because at the end of the day, it's rap. It's a, it's an art form from the streets. So it's always going to have street elements in it. But, yeah, I mean, you can't say Meg is rapping about the same shit.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And it just so happens, pussy is part of the streets too. Yeah. If there was no pussy in the streets, I wouldn't be out there. And I'm sorry to think they're hustling for. Yeah. And let's be fucking real. Like, and here's the thing, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Nobody's being honest about this shit. Oh, we want something different. We want something different. You niggas don't go and listen to Rhapsody. So, like, y'all do, right? Because you, like, actually like hip- No, I'll get what you're saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 But the masses, you niggas is not pumping Rhapsody up the way that you're supposed to. She doesn't have the career that she deserves off of her talent. And her fucking, the shit that she talks about, y'all don't really care. So, like, stop pretending that you care about raps that go deeper than surface level because you don't give a fuck. Megan's music that she's made that goes deeper than surface level, y'all don't listen to it. It doesn't get clipped. It doesn't go viral. Negativity.
Starting point is 00:46:39 sex, drugs, money goes viral, y'all highlight horrible shit. So stop putting it on artists who are trying to feed their fucking families, their kids, themselves, and create generational wealth. This is the shit that makes the money because this is the shit that y'all pay attention to and the shit that y'all uphold. So let's all stop with the fake morality police bullshit, fake purest hip-hip hop bullshit. I'm tired of it. I really am.
Starting point is 00:47:00 It's all performative as fuck. Y'all don't really care. Y'all just like shit non-black women. That's got to be kind of annoying too for Rhapsody. because I understand everything that you just said. She's probably annoyed, though, that every single time this type of conversation comes up with Meg or Pussy Wrap, she has to be like the poster child for the polar opposite.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And it's like, why y'all bring me up with that shit? I know what you were saying. It is. You are the polar opposite, so you're the easiest one to bring up. But, yeah. I mean, I don't, I get what you're saying. You make a very valid point. But I just feel like, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:34 if we get a new, Lauren Hill rap record tonight. She's not going to be talking about, you know, popping pussy and all of that. And I think that a lot of people will listen to it. Now, she's Lauren. That's because she's a legend. Right. I get it.
Starting point is 00:47:49 But it's just like, I do think there is a want for that type of rap from women. To your point, I don't think that it's something that people seek out a lot. But I do think there is people that it's just refreshing to hear a woman with a skill set, an MC with a skill set, and the content not be what we're used to. But to your point, it's not what we're searching for. No. Like, we're not going looking for that shit. We appreciate it every now and then. You know what? It's like, it's like rainy days. You appreciate rainy days every now and again. But we love when it's hot outside. We love when it's warm outside. And I don't think it's fair for the rapper that came out talking about, like, I came out
Starting point is 00:48:31 talking about pussy. I came out big old freak. I came out. This is who I came out at. This is who I came out as talking about drinking, talking about popping pussy, talking about spending your daddy money. If that's what I came out as and that's my brand, why do I have to change? But it also got so oversaturated that I think Meg gets folded into it's redundant in
Starting point is 00:48:49 masses now because there is so much, like there's less, I'm not saying this about Meg, but there's less creativity with pussy rap because Missy Elliott talked about her pussy all the time. They all love bringing up Doja Cat, so does Doja Cat. Who says Doja Cat doesn't rap about her pussy? Motherfocus is like, no. like you could have substance like Doja.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I'm like, do y'all listen to Doja? She has substance. Don't do that. But she wraps by her pussy all the time. But it's because Doja is not just a rapper. You know what I'm saying? Her music is very... But even her pop music be about fucking too. I just think people want creativity.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I'm saying like actual music fans, not just people that want to complain on the internet. Just want some creativity in pussy rap. And just in general, because rap has become redundant in so many cases. It's not just pussy rap. But yes, Missy Elliott was very creative. with her pussy raps.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Well, then go find there are other female artists out there. And you know what? I'll do my research and try to find them for y'all so that I can use our platform to uphold them to help y'all find this rap that y'all say that y'all are looking for, right? Go find the people who make that music and leave the professional pussy rapper alone.
Starting point is 00:49:55 But there is not just, I know the Rhapsody is always like the one that's brought up, but I mean, there's Tierra Wack. That's incredible. Go support Tierra. Amazing. is incredible. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:50:05 We come on here all the time and we bring those names up all the time and people, what, do not go fucking listen to them because y'all don't really want to hear that shit. So stop fucking lying. Tierra Wack is one of the most creative artist's period right now. Tierra's incredible. She's so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah, she's incredible. I like her a lot. But I mean... Little Sims too, though. Yeah, I mean, her last project was... I like Little Sims a lot. And I'm definitely going to see Doja at the Garden in December.
Starting point is 00:50:28 We know, we know. I'm in that motherfucker. It's blocked off on the calendar. You have to record. You can... No, I won't be... here. You can take a day of beauty to get ready for the show.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I got to get ready. I'm going to do it. Get ready with me to go see Doja. Get ready with me to go see Doja. You should do that, actually. No, but we was being, okay. If I'm being funny, you're going to be funny. But doing to get ready with me, like, can we talk about get ready with me's? Here we go. Yeah, I don't think that that's mental illness? No, no. You don't think getting out the bed to set a camera up and getting back
Starting point is 00:50:59 in the bed to act like you're getting out the bed as mental illness? No, because when they do, you don't think. do it for movies, do you think that that's mental illness? When you're watching a movie and you know it's fake, you know that they see that. But Denzel's not recording himself. No, there's somebody else recording, right? So there's a cut off that movie that he don't get. He don't get the director and the cameraman cut.
Starting point is 00:51:17 But when these people do that and they're their own content creators, they get all of that money. And they make more, why are y'all making fun of people who are making millions of dollars? Are you comparing a Get Ready with Me influencer video to Malcolm X? Baby D. I think a get ready with me is cool. If you're making money off a brand deals and all that, great. I'm just saying to get out of bed, set up a camera, to get back in bed, to act like I'm getting out of bed. And then if I don't like that, I got to get back in bed and do it over.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Why do you think that that's, do you think it's mental illness for the people who do it because there are people who want to see it? Or do you think the people who watch that have mental illness? That's the real conversation. I think it's all like a community. I don't think so. I think as a content creator, if you're giving people what they want to see, because it's making. you money, I don't think that that's mental illness. I think that you're using your brain and giving people what they want.
Starting point is 00:52:07 What about, so what about people that crying to the camera? Mice illness. What's the difference? Because I feel like to like, well, I think it's different because I have videos of me crying that have never touched the internet, but it's because I was talking and eventually when I was talking, I eventually started crying. But people who are in the middle of crying and pick up the phone and hit record,
Starting point is 00:52:29 I think that's a little bit different. but I've definitely been recording myself talking about something sensitive to me and started crying in the middle of it. That's okay. You found a loophole and I like that. That's a little different thing. That's a little different. And I like that. You can be recording yourself talking about something, right?
Starting point is 00:52:46 Whether it's something that happened to you during the day or just, you know, things that you're going through that you're feeling. And then the emotions happen. I'm talking specifically to the people that cried during the video. stop the video, look at it. Like, no, I don't like that. Like, and then start crying again and like, like, like that. What Tamara's saying, I don't consider when you're, I don't consider those the same thing.
Starting point is 00:53:10 That's just being a human and being emotional in the moment. I'm talking about knowing you're like already crying and start recording yourself crying. Like if somebody made you upset and like life and then you're like, just grab your phone and start recording yourself crying. And telling the story, I think that's like, oh, bro, come on, man. Like, I promise you, nobody cares enough. People care. About you, about you crying?
Starting point is 00:53:37 Where, but the- Demaris, I guarantee you, if you was crying about something that happened to you right now outside and you opened your phone to start a recording yourself crying. It would go viral. That don't mean people care. And we got to get away from that. Just because something goes viral. Well, no, they don't truly care, no.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Doesn't mean people care. They care enough to watch. And that's a difference. They care enough to watch. Yeah, but there's a lot of things I watch that don't. care about. Majority of the things I see on my phone. I would say like 98% of the things.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I don't care about that. You don't really care about it. You don't really care about it, but you care enough to watch. And if you are trying to get popularity or money, then somebody caring enough to watch is important. They don't matter if they really care when they click lock on their screen. You know, pitching your crying video to a brand on Zoom, you know, look at the analytics. If it went, if it went viral? Let's see, get it how you live.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I'm not, yeah. If you're getting to it, get to it. But it's just like, I look at that with a little side eye. Like, it's just very awkward to me. It is. To get ready with me or the day-to-day vlogs, I'm fine with them. Like, Rory, picking up the sunscreen and doing this? Well, I was making fun of the people.
Starting point is 00:54:41 That is, no, I understand. But it's just like, this, you have to do that. That's part of, like, the thing now. It's like the stem. Like, you have to do that. For people who like the sound of tapping, sometimes eating, sometimes smacking, sometimes it's crunching a mic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:57 That all has to do with something mental is what I'm saying. But it doesn't mean that there's something mentally wrong. Right. Let me not say that. Yeah, I think it depends what they're doing. Like women that are doing get ready with me with beauty products and like makeup. I don't think that's mental illness because women like are interested in getting new beauty products and makeup. Right, right, right. That type of stuff makes sense.
Starting point is 00:55:18 But I am with you that that first frame of every video when you fake it out a bit, not only you're faking it, you put your arms up to stretch. And it's like, this is the second time you got to. out of past you've been awake since two hours like can we just start can we just start in the bathroom but we just start in the bathroom but that's why I compare it to movies because it doesn't matter for the person who's watching it
Starting point is 00:55:39 this is something you created this you created this content and you're showing me something like you're putting out a production for me it literally is the same thing as a movie you don't sit up there and say oh y'all knew that camera was right there when y'all was fucking like we like it's a production it's just y'all are old
Starting point is 00:55:55 like the me me sex tape y'all are old And it's okay. What does that mean? Y'all are, so certain things that happen on the internet, I agree because a lot of things that happen on the internet are weird to me too. And it's because the internet that we grew up on and the life that we grew up in is completely different from what these kids are growing up in. These kids don't think that that's weird.
Starting point is 00:56:10 They don't think that it's weird. Because they're aware that it's a production. That's because the kids are weird. Sometimes they might look at you and think that you weird. I hope so. But just like your forefathers looked at you and thought that you were your forefathers. Your forefathers thought that you were aware. See, don't start talking to me about four.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Just because I turned 45. Like, don't put four in front of anything. Your forefathers. Like, don't do that. Your mom and them didn't think y'all was weird? Weird, no. I don't think my mom thought we was weird. My mom thought we were, um, if I could remember one thing, I could remember, like, my mom and
Starting point is 00:56:40 aunts and stuff, like, referring to my generation as is, it wasn't weird. It was, we were wild, I think was the word. We were wild. It was like, y'all kids these days is wild. like y'all just and I'm like well I've seen clips from the 70s and the y'all was doing the same shit yeah it's the same shit over and over they just did it with more privacy more privacy obviously technology and things like that like we get to see yeah this shit but I remember when my dad was saying that how tight the boy like you know back in like 2013 or something he was like and I'm behind on I'm walking behind niggas trying to get up the subway steps and they got these tight ass pants on with their ass hanging out, that shit is gay. And I'm sending up like, you niggas had on heels back in them days. They had platforms on, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Platform heels and blouses. But the niggins sag in their pants is gay. Like, make it make sense. Yeah, if you pull up the album cover for, what was it, the, not the, not the Whispers. What's the name of the group with the Ozzie brothers? You pull up one of their old album, they all got on belly tops, crap tops. Oh, yeah. I don't even
Starting point is 00:57:56 start it on glam rock Yeah Like that's like Who could look like More like a chick Was the thing And yeah My dad
Starting point is 00:58:03 Love that metrosexual word And all his photos From the 70s and 80s Are like You're metrosexual What are you talking about? Yeah But I mean
Starting point is 00:58:13 When I was a kid My dad just called me The W word with a hardy are That's that's He called you a wigger All the time What? What?
Starting point is 00:58:22 All the fucking time Your dad called you a wigger That's funny. He probably would, if I answer the phone, he probably said. That's funny as fuck. Yeah. The dad calling you a wigger is fucking funny. Wait, y'all, y'all use that word?
Starting point is 00:58:36 No, we didn't use the word. No, but like in your culture, like, that's like a word. My dad, my uncles, and like his generation saw the white kids, their sons. And yeah, that is, I never, I thought we used that word for them. Like, I don't know they, like adopted it. They used that shit with a heart. because we say Whigger. They said Whigger.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Like he meant that shit like nigger, but she was white. It was letting you know. Well, I mean, that's kind of the definition. No, but he meant like he had the vitriol. I just didn't know that they used that way. And it's not hate behind it. He said Whigger like I'm disappointed. My fucking child is out here acting like a black man.
Starting point is 00:59:09 No, he did it more to clown me. Like my dad really wasn't like that type of that was like mad at that type of shit. But I guess to answer your parents thought was odd or weird or something they had not seen before. Because that like took like most white kids were like, were like that at that time, whereas that was not the thing before. I did not know they used that word.
Starting point is 00:59:29 That's funny as fuck. That is funny. That's hilarious. I did not know, yeah, I thought we, like, that was our word for y'all.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Like, I did not know that y'all used that. I always thought it was honky. Yeah, Holmes. That's just, yeah, but we don't call like the ones like you honkies.
Starting point is 00:59:44 It's definitely weird. Can y'all bring that word back, honky? I don't know why we got ready. Such a good word. The honkyton man was my favorite wrestler at one point. Like, I just,
Starting point is 00:59:53 and then I couldn't call. I just had to call them a tank man. I never heard my parents say honky. They was definitely g-c-ass-c-c-cratker. Cracker's hilarious. Why you put the ER on it? It's not Cracker. Cracker.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Well, it's more offensive when you're at the ear. I just never, those words we never use, though. Like, do you never use? I've never called a white person a cracker a day in my life. I've never done that. This is all in jest and we're, like, we've not used the words. We don't use the words. No, they don't try to get me out of here before for jokes.
Starting point is 01:00:23 It's just. It's all in justice. Yeah, my dad, they're trying to get us all out of here for jokes. Comedy podcasts. It would be, my dad called me that, and then the black people around me would call me white N-word. That's really all it was. Damn. Yeah, never Wigger.
Starting point is 01:00:40 It would be white and then the N-Words. Right. Damn. Which was always a contradiction to me. Very confusing as a kid. Left me with so many questions. My dad told me he texted you. I said, I forgot you even have.
Starting point is 01:00:54 number one. We were texting over the weekend. Why are you bothering that man? Leave him alone. He didn't bother me at all. I was like, Dad, stop texting my boss. He even said, tell him all. I said, you're. I said, we'll do. What? And then I looked above and it was a Facebook
Starting point is 01:01:12 link and I'm like, oh my God, my dad probably be sending you the fucking Facebook links telling you that black people was the original fucking kings and queens. Like, I'm so sorry that you got to go. I hang out with Jailich. I know all that. I'm gonna say I agree He sent in Rory Anunnaki Links and shit like please
Starting point is 01:01:27 I've been read all that I'm so sorry Yo what That's when your father said it like please I'm so sorry Oh my God That is funny as fuck way Wow
Starting point is 01:01:43 What we talk about Oh yeah influencers I give credit to the I watch a lot of the cooking ones If they edit those themselves I give them a lot of credit Those like quick cuts for 75 different parts of ingredients. It's very hard.
Starting point is 01:01:57 That's time. That's why I'm more impressed than what you're cooking, but you could edit that that way. If I don't do it. That and makeup. It's very difficult. And shout out to all the content creators. I don't want to seem like I'm,
Starting point is 01:02:09 it's just a lot of that shit. I'm just like, it's a little just awkward to me. You ain't the audience. But there's people that watch this podcast, as much time and effort and money that we put into it and be looking at me like, this is the worst shit ever.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Take the mics away. Oh, yeah. I understand. I think we need a hard reset. I think every podcast needs to go black for about two months. I'm with that. Everybody just needs to shut the fuck up. Like, it's too much.
Starting point is 01:02:34 It's like, everybody just chill. Everybody's taking themselves a little too serious. Everybody's trying to be the main character. Yeah. Just shut up. Everybody relax. It's okay. Just live life.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Just go outside, live life. Don't have to worry about getting on the camera, being performative. And just be, everybody's performing. Just everybody relax. just relax this thing is supposed to be fun is content creator a spectrum like can we say some people that have content or not content creators
Starting point is 01:03:03 like I think the women that do the makeup and do reviews I think that's content creators for sure but the women that just like do the vlogs of like I go over here and people want to fuck me and then I go to the next event where they want to fuck me we're part of the where is that I need to follow that I've never saw I've never
Starting point is 01:03:20 there's just pretty chicks going outside But then we went to this activation and I put my leg up at the step and repeat. And then I went to the next one. Basically, it's, I just go places where people want to fuck me. Okay. Is that content creating? I mean, I guess so. That's so sick that you see pretty girls and be like, oh, my God, yeah, people just want to fuck her.
Starting point is 01:03:41 No, I think that's what they think. I think that. They don't say that, though. They think it. But they don't say that content. They're putting it out there metaphorically. The content creator is a person who produces. educational, entertaining, or promotional material for digital media channels and online audiences.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So shout out to all the content creators out there. Keep doing what you're doing. We appreciate most of y'all. Most. I'll say most. We appreciate most to y'all. The niggi that'd be cooking the steak on the high rock. No, that's my man. Love him. Yeah. Now, my man is the nigger that be, uh, I'm trying not to say that word no more. My man is the, is the dude that be, uh, he's on a kayak in the middle of the ocean.
Starting point is 01:04:23 And he fishes and then he like cooks the fish right there in the kayak. Oh yeah. Wait, the Australian guy? I don't know where he's from. He is a superhero. You're on a kayak fishing, grab the fish. You can filet it, cook it. Like he'd be making mahi mahi.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Mm-hmm. Like it's grilled sand. Right there on his kayak. Yeah. Yeah, homie right here. This is the most incredible. This is content creating right here. Like this is incredible.
Starting point is 01:04:53 There's one guy that's like this in Australia and like he'll just go up to like sea snakes and be like, come here, little fella. And like, I'm like, yo, what are you doing? He'll jump in the middle of the ocean in Australia. But he does the same thing. He'll do the gun sword fishing and like bring the shit up on his kayak and just that's lunch today. Yeah, see, that's the type of, you know, because he's not like trying to do that over and over. He's catching that one time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:19 He's not catching the fishing. Like, oh, he's throwing it back. Like, you'll swim back around, buddy. I'll cut you again. I just fucked up your mouth. Yeah, he's doing that right there. What you see is what you get. You can't fake that.
Starting point is 01:05:31 That's awesome content creation right there to me. I've been in a deli chokehold lately. I don't know if it's the Aki way or just delis getting into YouTube shorts. They're having sandwich battles to the point. How pause, how could your mouth even fit around that sandwich? We're putting so much shit on sandwiches now. And I'm watching it because it looks delicious. But how could somebody possibly eat a sandwich that's this fucking toll?
Starting point is 01:05:56 I don't know, but I know one thing. If I keep seeing that garlic butter bagel pop up on my fucking feed one more time. You're going to go get it? I got to go get it. I got to have it. I got to have it. Oh, I know Leon's bagels must have just got some TikTokra over there. Really?
Starting point is 01:06:10 It's been a madhouse there for the past like two weeks. Leon's bagels? Yeah, which is great. I used to go there. But now it's like 100 people out there every morning. Yeah, that's the only bad thing. Like, you're happy for the business, but like the little low spots that I'd be knowing about, once a concert creator goes there and, like, it goes viral, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:06:29 I can't go there for like another four months now. I mean, I'm happy for you for the business and shit, but I don't like want them to do it, y'all. Like, I don't, I'm going to go find somebody else, but I'm happy for y'all. That y'all, I know. Yeah, no, definitely do you? You know, you want to see these small businesses, like, have those moments. But there is something nice about being able to go to your favorite spot.
Starting point is 01:06:47 And, you know, you can get the same table, sit down. You know, like, just chill. Same, same. Well, they know your order. Yeah, like, you go there and the line that's wrapped around a block, you like, oh, my God. Like, and then you hope somebody in there and Rex sees you from outside, like, and you can still just walk. Nah, you can't. It sounds like me and Amme.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I was just, you took the word. I was about to say, Rorya Raya Amme. Like, fam, I've been here when Teddy Press's first teacher. Yeah, like, it's just like, I'm happy for y'all dope. But like, come on, man. I don't want. I don't need an appointment to come in here. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:07:16 So they gave me an appointment, and it was six people on the store for one time. Yeah. I said if the door opened, I saw six people and I said, I got to wait out here 30 minutes because six people are shopping. Yeah. I'll see you out next week. And all like the people that were there in the beginning are now like on the corporate level. Like they're not at the rest rate anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:35 So like anytime I text them, they'll be like, bro, I'm in the office at Midtown. Like, I can't help you. Yeah, it's bad. We love to see it though. We love to see these small brands, you know. Oh, I got cursed out by somebody on Instagram, rightfully so. I posted a Vietnamese sandwich spot on my Instagram story. And he was like, oh, is anything sacred now?
Starting point is 01:07:55 Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why would you post this? Which I understood. I get it, though. I understand. Especially you as an influencer. People will trust your word. I mean, I listen, I do know my sandwiches.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I don't like to flaunt it, but I do. Sandwich sore? I do know my sandwich. Sandwich. I don't like that. You don't like sandwich? I don't like sandwich sure. It doesn't roll off the tongue well.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Okay. I'll try it. workshop that a little bit. Oh yeah, I work on. Yo, did you watch the Jayzean 8? Yes, I've been keeping up. It's not, the full eight is not out with. Yeah, I watched the most recent episode last night.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Even the small, small, small critiques I had of it with episode one, I completely take back. I fucking love that series. Yeah, it's dope. I really like it. I just wish Rick Ruben put some socks on, but. Would you trust them then? Yeah. So you think it's the barefoot Rick Rubin that I only trust?
Starting point is 01:08:48 Yeah. If Rick started wearing shoes, I'd be like, something's up. Yeah. Rick is losing it. It's the Rick clutch. No, it's dope, though. It's dope to see, you know, Jay go through his some songs and really get into the bars and the meaning behind a lot of the verses. Like, it's dope to see that. I just like the song selection that they picked. The song selection. That's my favorite part about it where it's not so surfaced and like, tell us about Empire State of Mind. Yeah. I like that they picked like real B-side records.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I like the fact that Jay said he doesn't listen to like 4-4-4. I see. That nigga, he was about to cry when he played that shit. Mouth got so dry. You know when your throat started closing up. He started drinking water in the middle of shit. Yeah, but I like that though. That's just like a different level of vulnerability.
Starting point is 01:09:34 And, you know, it's like you can understand. Like he lived it. So it's like he don't want to hear that again. Like you start like going through those motions and things again, like hearing it. Like, but I, I wasn't. surprised they hear that he never listened to that song though, like after he laid it. That was kind of surprising.
Starting point is 01:09:52 But I understand it. I get it. I definitely get it. But yeah, they did a good job with that, though. They're doing, they're doing a good great job. There's four more left, right? Because it's only four years. So it's four more left.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yeah. I was actually kind of shocked he did the third verse of You Must Love Me about shooting his brother. I was actually kind of surprised because that's like some I don't think I've ever heard him like speak on outside of that actual record. And even him like surprising himself, he's like, I can't believe I wrote that at 27 years old. Like, how did I have that deep of a thought?
Starting point is 01:10:26 Because that verse is extremely deep outside of just shooting your brother, just ego, adrenaline. Like, that's an incredible, incredible verse. So I was shocked he even spoke about that because that's got to be awkward. We've seen Jay around his brother a million times since. So obviously everything is okay. Yeah. but like I don't know does your brother want you talking about that and he even said like that was somewhat of an issue like you're talking about your family that first verse as well he said was a big problem with his family and we've asked the artist that before like at what point can you not say certain things because you know it'll ruin your fucking personal relationships it's got to be tough and now you're bringing it back up fucking 20 years later how does your brother feel about that yeah not everyone knew you shot me right like no i mean he raced he rapped he wrapped about that years ago though no i know but um what songs
Starting point is 01:11:23 you're looking forward to him like going through he's kind of checked like a lot of the ones that i've wanted him to like i love that he did the scarface verse on can't be life that would have been one that i would really want to see um yeah he's he's kind of it's kind of covered a lot of them maybe um i want to hear him talk about hard knock life because i think that's the record that catapulted jay to a a different level yeah's career so i would like to hear him just talk about that record in particular because to me that that that that that changed
Starting point is 01:12:01 oh yeah of of his music so to him and i don't think i've ever really I mean, obviously he's spoken about that record before, but like in this type of setting with Rick Rubin, you know, I think Rick will ask certain questions and things like that. So that's one record that I am looking forward to him. New Day from Watch the Throne would be really interesting just because he was speaking on having a kid with not having one yet. I'd like to know his perspective now of that verse now that he has three kids. That could be really interesting.
Starting point is 01:12:34 New Day would be dope. I just doubt they'll pick that one. You don't think he's going to do any other Kanye records? I mean, they did put out with the list already, even if the episode's on it. Oh, okay. You can't see that. I'm kind of curious, Chapter 8, legacy. I don't know if people, which we talked about when 444 came out, of course, everyone
Starting point is 01:12:56 gravitated right to kill Jay-Z and to the 444 song and everything responded to Beyonce. That legacy verse might be one of Jay's most vulnerable verses ever. He's talking about one of his family members being fucking handsy. And that's how they're ending it. I'm curious how Deep he's going to get to that. Because that goes back to exposing your family again. And that's a crazy subject to discuss. I'm glad he's doing Dead Presidents 2.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I always say if somebody never heard rap music before, dead presidents 2 is one of the songs that I would play for somebody who is listening to rap for the first time. That would be one of the, probably the first song I would play for somebody. P. Rock and See how smooth. Troy is probably on that list for me too. Yeah. Of songs that you would just say this is what rap is. This is what this art form is. But Deb President is too to know that he's going to talk about that.
Starting point is 01:13:54 That's dope because that's definitely one of my favorite, personal favorite JZ records. Yeah. Well, yeah, if you haven't yet, it's a great watch. No matter what type of music fan you are, it's a really, really good watch. the JZ8. I need to tell you about this new sports trading app called Polymarket. It's the best new way to trade in sports. In the past, if you wanted action on the game,
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Starting point is 01:19:02 or wherever you get your podcasts. Do we have voicemails? Not male. Yes, we do. Yo, this is Paulus. Man, a big fan of the pot. Love what y'all doing, man. I been fucking with y'all for like three years straight.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Appreciate that, brother. You guys, man. Fuck complex, man. Y'all the ones. Y'all the ones. Y'all going to be, y'all up there. Anyway, so I got a question. My homeboys think I'm, like, racist
Starting point is 01:19:33 because I don't find black women as sexually attractive as I find, like, white women. Like, I prefer, I prefer white women than, like, black women. That's just, like, my, like, preference, you know? And my boys think I'm, like, racist because, like, I don't, like, I don't, like, I don't, like, fuck with black girls. Like, but it's only because, like, I see them as, like, family. And I, like, I be thinking they, like, butt ugly. Like, there's attractive black women for sure.
Starting point is 01:20:07 I acknowledge that. Baby, Dee, you want to. them. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, but I gravitate more towards the bunnies. You feel me? But anyway, my homeboys think I'm racist. I don't think I'm racist because I think it's more crazy if I act like I fuck with black girls and then I do them dirty. But I don't know. I feel like they tripping. But then again, I might be tripping. So y'all let me know if I'm tripping. I mean, I just need to know. Anyways, big fan of the pop. I appreciate y'all.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Please. Collins, thank you for leaving that voicemail. So racist. I don't think that's racist. I don't think
Starting point is 01:20:49 it's racist to not be sexually attracted to anybody. I don't think I've classified that as racist. And now his
Starting point is 01:20:58 reasoning is a little weird because he's like their family. That's just a little odd. Like, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:05 you can have your preference. You can like whoever you like. but yeah i just i just think your reasoning for not liking or not being sexually attracted to black women is a little just a little odd the floor shells no this is where you're supposed to like this is when you jump in that like i just cleared the lane i set the screen for you you're supposed to come off the screen and shoot that shit man come on man what you doing um despite
Starting point is 01:21:33 what some of the public may think yeah the people in this room know where i guess uh my preference you're not sexually attracted to white women. I view them as like my family. Yeah, your college. Y'all the same. And you guys view me as racist towards my own kind. Yeah, like, I don't think you're racist to your own kind. Roy, I just think you have a preference.
Starting point is 01:21:55 And, you know, I think you may have a little kink. I don't have a little chocolate factory kink. You know what I'm saying? Like, it is what it is. How you're saying he fetishizing black women, please, we have enough issues? No, I'm not. Rory's not fetishizing black people. It's a tough word to say.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Yeah, fetishizing. But yeah, I just think his reason of why he's not sexually attracted to black women is just like, huh? It's just a little weird. I would have a question. What's the question? My question would be. Where are you from?
Starting point is 01:22:24 I would ask him what his relationship with his mother is like. Okay. And I would also ask him if he was introduced to porn at a young age. What's his relationship like with his mother? And if he was introduced. to porn at a young age. Okay, so let's go to the, what would the correlation be between him
Starting point is 01:22:45 being introduced to porn have to do it? Like, you think that he just saw just like white porn, white women are porn? I got that. I got that from him saying that he looks at black women as family, not sexually, which means that you're usually putting women in a box of, you're kind of like,
Starting point is 01:23:07 you're either to be. fucked or to be friends. You're objectifying them. Yeah. Like you can't, like they can't. There can't be like a human. Yeah, there's no, they can't just be like a full-fledged like human who you can enjoy and look at his family. It's like, no, black women are, because I've met people like that where it's like now, like black women are our homies, our beautiful queens. But they'll date white women because they think that the people that they date are to be fucked and objectified and in a way disrespected. And they wouldn't do that to black women. Okay. I've come into contact women who are like that. That's why I asked how early were you.
Starting point is 01:23:38 introduce to porn because that has to do with your objectification of women, how you look at women and view women and the level of respect you think you should give them and why you're more comfortable giving black women a different type of respect and given white women this type of respect because you look at women just to be sexual objects. That's so interesting because I remember like women giving me shit when they found out like I dated like white women. But you date everybody. You'll fuck a chicken sandwich if it was attractive. Now see, come on see.
Starting point is 01:24:05 You see how fast you just go crazy? But I mean, Maul will date any race. He's attracted to all beautiful women. I just love women. Which is completely different than somebody saying they won't touch the women that are of their own race. But to me, I'm just like, because on the other side of that, I've gotten a lot of, you know, shit from black women when they find out that I've dated white women or Asian women. And I'm just like, I like women. I don't really care about race and ethnicity and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Like if it's a woman, she's attractive, she's cool. We have chemistry. You know, we connect on certain things. Like, that's what I'm attracted to. I don't care where her forefathers are from. I don't give a fun. You feel your life is like similar to the plot of Save the Last Dance. Like, you really feel like you can recognize what Derek went through.
Starting point is 01:24:54 No, I'm not saying that at all, right? No, I'm just trying to figure it up. That's not what I'm saying. Well, that conversation is a completely different situation. A lot of black women are sensitive to that for numerous reasons when you grew up in a world that's constantly telling you that all other women are exotic and more beautiful than you. And that's your bottom tier of women. It can be sensitive.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Yeah, but I date black women as well. I understand that. But I'm just saying, you, I date every race other than black women. That will be something for a black woman. Like, what? The sensitivity doesn't come from you in your experience. It comes from growing up in that being the experience. That's what I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Yeah, you know, I love my black women now. Ooh, you know I didn't have my. I don't know it's helping your case. You were it that way. I didn't have my answer. You just ran through them, right? No, I didn't run through. Well, some of them was already ran through when I met them.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Oh. Let's just say that. Some of them. You ran through each other. It was. We were using each other. It was a mutual thing. Like, we knew what it was.
Starting point is 01:25:51 It was like we're going to have fun tonight and I might call you tomorrow. Marathon continued. Come on, man. You know that. It doesn't stop. But yeah, homie, I don't know. You got to. Hey, date who you date.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Date who you date. But, like, there is a way to have your preference, though. Kind of a preference to not put down. Not that this gentleman is doing, but like, his reason it was a little weird. Like, you know, you look at all black women as family? I never had that. I never looked at Shorty as family. Mind you, they're the most diverse group of women.
Starting point is 01:26:24 There's so many different black women that look like so many different things. So many different, like, layers and shades and, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, like who you like, man. Well, he wants to know if you guys think that he's racist for that. I don't think he's racist. I mean, if you go to the definition of race, I don't think it's not racist. I think he's, you know, something else.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Yeah, I don't know if there's a word for whatever that else is. Yeah. I mean, more for us. He's a little, he's a little peculiar. He's an interesting gentleman. That's what he is. Collins, you're an interesting gentleman. Let's just say that.
Starting point is 01:26:59 I would love to have a cup of coffee and talk with you. and kind of like dig into your mental a little bit, like just to see what's going on up there. Yeah. And don't you hate when someone says something so nice, like we should be number one on the list. And then they go and say some bullshit. And you're like, God damn it. You know what I was about to agree with you. Because I would want to test Collins. Like I would one, I would put him around some of the most beautiful black women and dare him to not be sexually attracted to another one. It's like, there's no way. It's certain. There's no way you don't see this woman right here. And you're not sexually attractive because she, you look at her like,
Starting point is 01:27:32 family. You don't even know her name. Like, are you kidding me? Like, what? He could have a big family and confused at certain reunion. Shit. Just say, just say you like the snow bunnies, man. Just say you like the bunnies and, you know, it's okay. I'm not Dr. Umar. It's okay. I'm not, I don't, I feel like that can go down a even weirder rabbit hole if you just find what would be deemed the most attractive of every race. And I'd be like, well, yeah, her, but not the rest of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To me, that's even like, weirder.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know. I just, I think us being, I think where you're from, too, plays into that a lot. I think where you're from, I think the fact that we're from New York City, grew up in New York City, we were, had close proximity and access to so many different ethnicities and cultures and some of our friends growing up. Like, we just, you know, you just start to learn people and like people because that's who you're around.
Starting point is 01:28:23 I think that plays. So with DeMaris is saying, I kind of get, but also I would like to know where he's from. Like, where did you grow up? I also think that can change, too. Like, I'm trying to think in college when I, like, you know, started to meet people that I had not grown up around. There was like, there was, I'm not going to say his name, but one black guy was on my track team that grew up in South Jersey and like super, super suburban only around white people. And he only fucked white girls. Like, that's all he did.
Starting point is 01:28:51 That's what he grew up there. But then I also had my man that was from the Bronx. And he loved white bitches. But no, it's different. Like, it's different. We grew up on third half. But it's different, though. It's different because that, on that side of it, it's, I've never dated this type of woman.
Starting point is 01:29:11 I've never had access to a pure white woman. But I say that with you. Like a lot of black women would like you because. Oh, I definitely, I definitely was a first of like, let me try it out. Yeah, you're like a fond. You're like, I'm sorry? Like, they just want to pet you because they don't see you. Like, they've never seen many of you.
Starting point is 01:29:33 you know, in their neighborhood. Which I feel like I could go to the podium for that one, but I mean, I enjoyed it. It was considered like I have no. Use me. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you're not useful, you're useless. Like, it's going to always go back to that.
Starting point is 01:29:48 I wasn't offended. No. I didn't feel hurt. You're not traumatized. I have fond memories, actually. Jesus. No, it's real though, DeMaris. It's real.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Like I understand what Rory is saying. It's like. Like, y'all not going to shame me into like, feeling like, yo, they use you. Okay. I'll be an experiment. You've never had a white boy before. Here's the white boy right here. So I get it.
Starting point is 01:30:16 It's like if I'm going to round a bunch of white women and they're like, I've never been with a black man. Tonight is your looking like if you want it to be. If you want it to be. If you want it. John Legend, tonight's the night song that started playing. If you showed up. tonight to be the night. It can happen. Like, I'm
Starting point is 01:30:36 not offended by it. If anything, I'm going in there with the flag on. Representing Wakanda. Yeah, I'm trying to... But there's also... Yeah, I'm trying to represent all of us. I'm representing all of us. There's more deep-rooted fetish stuff, I think, in your
Starting point is 01:30:52 situation than there would be with mine. Oh, yeah. There's definitely some deep-rooted white girl. Naturally. Yeah. I'm mad at my father's shit. How do I piss my dad? off type of situation. We know the history. We're not the case of me. We're not supposed to like each
Starting point is 01:31:06 other. That's what America taught us. Like, and then having sex, whoa, that was forbidden at one point. I could be hung out like a fucking, like, even if you didn't. Yeah, so it's not me, Rory. It's
Starting point is 01:31:24 the culture, it's the DNA of America. Walking down the street. Yeah, that made it this way. So if there's something that are willing to, then God damn it, I'm available. It's all I'm saying. Oh, man. We the willing. Yeah, Pete bleep that.
Starting point is 01:31:37 I don't know. Bleep it to keep it. It's up to you. Keeping it? Yes. Baby, dude, what's up? What's you drinking right there? This?
Starting point is 01:31:47 Electrolite water. What's electrolyte water? So it's like... Microphone. Oh, sorry. Liquid IV, but it has... Liquid IV packets with water, but it has caffeine in it too. Oh.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Okay. I've been trying to get off the coffee and the tea a little bit, so... Okay. I'm happy for you. Yeah, you thought it was liquor, huh? I thought you had. No, I know liquor's not in that, but it looks like coconut water. Like it kind of looks like it could be cold.
Starting point is 01:32:10 I've mixed it with coconut water before. It was good. Okay. All right. Are we doing dry October and no nut November? What's no nut November? Like, you can't nut in November? Yeah, it's in the title.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Yeah. Actually, I thought it was self-explanatory, my bad. I mean, I want to do it with you, but like if. With you is crazy. No, like, I want to do no nut with you. Yeah, I want to not nut with you. Yeah, I want to not nut with you, but. you know if a white woman wants to if a beautiful woman
Starting point is 01:32:44 if a beautiful woman de Maris wants to have sex with me in November I don't know if I'm going to lean on like no we can't it's no November like men's health yeah I'm not you can find out if you really like her though no I like her like I want to really I want to show her I want to see her uh yeah that's what I'm saying now for November that's what's time to release the hands. Release the haze. Open the floodgates. Anybody else? Dry October. No, not November? I mean, I don't drink. I could do dry October with you. That's easy. That was not, I had wine in September. I had wine for a birthday. I don't think August I had, no, I had one
Starting point is 01:33:27 August. You did. Took your ass, the Atlanta show. Was Atlanta? Where you went? L.A. L.A. L.A. Showed your ass. Yeah. Yo. Yo, fam. Alina on the window. That sleep? Nick Walker You're like, you're like, you're bro, we're here. I don't know how. We wear. Fam.
Starting point is 01:33:44 I am never doing that again. So yeah, I could do Gerak toble with you. Is no nut November like also self-nutting? You know what I want to do? I want all of us to go see Paranoma activity to play together for Halloween. Like an escape the room type of thing?
Starting point is 01:33:59 No, to play Paranoma. Oh, okay. No, can we go to Freight Fest? Baby Dee, come on now. Think outside the box. Everybody goes to Freight Fest. You're old and don't want to get on roller coasters. I hate working with old people.
Starting point is 01:34:13 No, it's not the roller coasters. It's just, that shit is, you know. I mean, if you want to go to Freight Fest, I guess we go all go. Okay. I love roller coasters, but I don't know, 2026 is a bit of a sketchy year for roller coasters. I don't know what's my algorithm. Every time I open my phone, someone's trapped on a fucking ride. That's because you like seeing that shit.
Starting point is 01:34:30 That's why they feed your algorithm that. You don't want to see nobody survive and be happy on a roller coaster. I love roller coasters. I don't want to get paranoid where that could happen. I didn't, I think Six Flags yesterday just shut down one of their biggest roller coasters for like ever. Which one? The Batman? Six Flags.
Starting point is 01:34:46 I don't know how they were his tweets and I was like, dude's go to six flags. You're like, I want to ride the Man to Steel. I want to ride the man to steal. It's fucking crazy. And they run to the line. Fast pad. They won't be the first. But I treat rollercoasts.
Starting point is 01:35:02 I treat shit like that with rollercoasters like how I'm all treating them blueberries. He ain't got no business eating. If it's my time, it's my time. I ain't eating them because they was too. You know, blueberries got to be a little firm for me. When they get too soft, like, mushy, it's like, you can't. What, no blood flow. Blasted ass blueberries.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Yeah, yesterday, Six Flags, Magic Mountain is permanently closed. I don't know if I've ever done that one. But because of lawsuits and the ride has caused too many traumatic brain injuries. So. Yeah, roller coals just give me a headache. I'm cool with it. I love her. So do niggas, and I keep fucking with them.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Where is the Magic Mountain? I don't think I've ever been on Magic Mountain. Is that the one in South Jersey? The X2 RollerCuracy. Is that one in South Jersey? That's Six Flags Magic Mountain. Okay, I don't know where that one is. No, that's not Jersey.
Starting point is 01:35:56 L.A. Oh, in L.A. Okay. All right. That's an effect. Oh, they close to X2, okay. But I'm down to do a Fright Fest. We have to go see paranormal activity.
Starting point is 01:36:05 You really keep talking about this. No, that shit was good. Was it scary? It's like a lot of jump scares. If you're scared like the jump scares, the loud noises and sudden, like, you'll be scared. All right, but can we all sit in different areas so like nobody clowns me if I get jumpy? Nah, see, that's what we got to go over. I want to be jumping around my people.
Starting point is 01:36:26 I want us to all sit in the same row right next to each other so I can see who's scared or not. But like, do they trick you and put like people next to you that end up being? It's not at that. It's all. That'd be kind of ill, though. Yeah, no, that's not that. It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a great, it's a great play. It's definitely one of the most unique plays I've probably ever seen, because they use a lot of special effects.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Okay. You know, they use like, you know, the lighting and everything. It was really, really good. It was, it was really, really good. I enjoyed it. But I want, I want to see y'all, like, in the theater, like, because I know, I know DeMaris can be scared. I know she's going to be scared. You too, though.
Starting point is 01:37:06 you're scared? I was scared of the original movie. I saw it in theaters like fucking 15 years ago. That's a really good movie series though. I don't know activity. I love that. So yeah, I'm more than down. Quick question. Oh, shit. You and your house. New house just bought a farmhouse or whatever. So fix her up her. You're fixing up the farmhouse. You haven't been in the basement yet, whatever. Would you rather have to fight off like Jason from like Fetty versus Jason? Okay. Or like this shit that was in the conjuring. Jason, I think.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Ma. Say that I'm sorry. I just got some good news. He's going to nuts. He's going to nut in November. No, no, no, no. The nut before September end. No, I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:37:54 You just got like a new house and you found out that either it was either A, would you rather be A haunted by the shit from the conjuring or be like Jason was running around that bitch looking for you? Which one would you rather? The conjuring is a doll, right? No, it's just a spirit. It's infected a dull before you. Okay. Jason, he had some size to him. He had a machete.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Jason had size to him as a whoa. Jason was like 6-1, right? Six-two? Like, you know. What do you have in his Twitter bow? No, I don't know how he was. Yeah, I think we can find out how he said. He's six-th-do.
Starting point is 01:38:32 How you know his height? Jason Vorees, they, between 6-3 and 6-3 and 6. five. Yeah, like, come on, fam. It's a fucking unit. Yeah, but you could, like, you could shoot Jason, though, right? No, that shit don't stop him.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Have you not seen the Jason? But the conjuring, there's nothing you could do. You just got to, like, you gotta deal with it. You got, you can have an exorcism. That didn't work in the movie. I don't know, I'm weird. I take my chances with Jason. I feel like Jason to fuck with me.
Starting point is 01:39:01 I feel like he rocking him. Yeah, I'm definitely taking my chances with some shit. I could, like, fight. Spirit, you can't see that shit. There was nothing they could do in the corner. Yes, I'm saying. I could see Jason. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:12 And I'm like, come on, fan. Really? Come on. You're really? Come on. Come on. All right. Michael Myers.
Starting point is 01:39:19 That's the slowest villain ever. Yeah. I'm not. I'm cooking it on, Michael. Michael and Mikhail. Yeah, Michael Myers. I'll take my chance with Michael Myers. Anything I can see.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Yeah. Because if I can see it, I can probably defend myself against it. You talk to my spirits and shit like, and then the spirits could jump from things that I don't, we don't know what we're against right now like no all right uh conjuring or hereditary conjuring is way scary what's hereditary i'm saying like what would you rather like then you got beef with your grandmother like which spirit hereditary is one of the best scary movies i think like
Starting point is 01:39:55 hereditary is a not a good movie i hate that it gets all that well i don't i didn't like it i don't like it i don't say it's not a good movie i didn't like i'm gonna sound like a fucking loser snob the cinematography is delightful in that some of the best some of the best some of the best Some of the best cinematography I've ever seen. Oh my God. Fucking. It's delightful. Keep it.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Believe it. Keep it. Keep it. Keep it. Keep it. Keep it. Keep it. Believe it.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Oh, my God. Yeah, but with hereditary, like, you can't beat, you can't beat your devil grandma. Like, you just got to be that. Now you're the devil. Yeah. I don't fuck with that. There's anything fucking with the spiritual realm.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Because I believe in all that shit. So that's scary to me. I believe in ghosts? I believe in ghosts. I believe in spirits. I believe in all of that shit. Yeah, hell yeah. I believe it's some evil on this earth
Starting point is 01:40:43 that's older than all of us. Yeah. Fuck yeah. I'm one of the two. I believe in all that shit. I'm cool. Yeah. Like, Freddy in my dreams?
Starting point is 01:40:50 What's regular? A drunk night, my dreams is horrible. Like, I ain't worried about that shit. Yeah, I feel like I could take my chances with Michael Myers, Jason. Jeepers Creepers. What the hell is Jeepers creepers? I remember. That's old, right?
Starting point is 01:41:03 The nigga from Jeepers creepers creepers. Yeah. No Jeepers creepers. I don't know, but the Gremlins is coming back. You see that? Spilberg. No, I didn't see that. You didn't see that? That's, it's lit.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Gremlin's coming back. Y'all too young for Gremlins. Y'all remember Gremlins. Oh, yeah. Of course I remember Gremlins. 20s. All right, Gremlins first Chucky, then. I'll take a Gremlin.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Chuckie, too determined for me. The Gremlin's, it was too many of the niggas. They get wet. You feed them after midnight. They multiply. Nah, nah, give me, give me, give me. One Chucky, I'll take my chance. These niggins start eating, it's over.
Starting point is 01:41:44 They're going to multiply. Like, nah, no, no, give me Chucky. I'll take Chucky. But the fact that we get a new Grimless movie is dope, though. Like, with all the new technology and shit like that, with, like, movie, that's going to be five. Then was Grimlins the original, like, minions? But, like, the happy ones?
Starting point is 01:42:00 I mean, the, like, scary ones? No. For real, you don't think that's where that stemmed from? No. Because the Grimlins was scary, but also, like, it was comedy to it as well. Like a lot of shit that happened in the Grimlins was like funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:12 They had like, they had personality that say funny shit. They'll be like, they'll steal toys and be driving around in like cars, like toy cars. Like, so it was like little comedy shit to it as well. But I was scared of Grimals as a kid though.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Like I remember being scared of Grimals. Yeah. Peter Thiel versus Sam Altman. Who's scarier? That's the real evil spirits. We need to be peeping. All right. Well, it was good talking to y'all.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Good seeing y'all. We finally get this new Drake music on DSPs tonight. Oh, yeah, that's right. I did see that. You know, new music is here. Some good new music. You need good music. But we'll talk to you.
Starting point is 01:42:52 Bless you, all right? You good? I'm wonderful. All right, cool. It's a little sneeze. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed.
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