New Rory & MAL - Episode 65 | "The Conspiracy Episode"
Episode Date: May 10, 2022(Recorded on May 3rd, 2022)Warning: We are not the brightest crayons in the box, so if we sound uneducated on these subjects... its because we are. This is all for entertainment purposes.Welcome to Br...ing Your Own Conspiracy Theory Day at the New Rory & Mal office! The boys start off trying to choose stripper names for themselves, and then go into the best crime documentaries and murder mysteries. They then get into the conspiracy theories they actually believe in. They also discuss group chat etiquette, Rory's Def Jam days, + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Do we have to do the intro?
Yes.
I'm Mall.
I'm Rory.
This is the new mall and Rory show.
Woo.
Brought you by nobody.
Yay.
Well.
It's magical.
Jazz.
Brought you by jazz.
What about jazz?
What's you by Sirius X-Im.
Shout out to Jazz.
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with the people you work with.
Absolutely, man.
We love Sirius.
We love more sauce.
You guys have been amazing.
Jazz, come on.
We already know what it is with jazz.
Renegotiation must be coming up.
No, we have another year.
Yeah.
More than another year.
Yeah, like a year and a half.
But yeah, man.
How you feeling?
I feel all right.
Good?
Yeah.
You look good.
Happy birthday.
Thank you.
I mean, I feel like Patreon, we talked a lot about birthday stuff,
but we didn't address the balloons and the carrot cake,
which I thought was kind of racist.
No one asked me what type of cake I wanted, but...
What kind of cake would you have worn?
You said you like key lime pie.
Key lime pie, but I wouldn't consider it like a birthday thing.
No.
I'm sweet, so that's why I'm like confused.
Yeah, my mother was diabetic.
I never had sugar onus.
Oh, right, right, right.
It's like a salmon.
But I'm old school.
Yo, give us somebody a slice of salmon with a candle in it for their birthday.
You know how crazy that is?
It's like an LA bricking
You go some salmon
You know what I mean
Put some mashed potatoes
Underneath that
Some avocado next one
I'm old school
Elementary school ghetto
Man give me the
Confetti cupcakes
That's my shit
Damn I was gonna fucking
I'm a confetti cupcake
You like the sugar cookie
With all the frost
On the top
Like the ones
Yeah
I'm waiting for Carvel
To make a vegan
Ice cream
I fucking love
I miss I missed the little
Chocolate Crunchies
I don't know why I went to
A strip forget it
I went to a strip club
Immediately when
Is it
Carvel strip club
There's a Carvel strip club
You
know a stripper name Carvel?
He knows it's not
Shriver named Crunchies.
Carvel, that shit.
I throw it all on Carvel.
I'm not even going to go to that.
I just thought it was the most
unique stripper name I ever met.
Carvel?
Yeah, that's a crazy stripper name.
And I'm actually, I shouldn't even said that.
I feel like chicks are going to steal that name now.
Carvel, that's a great name.
Is that the best name you've heard?
Is that the best name you've heard?
Stripper name?
For jinx.
Jinks?
Yeah.
He doesn't how he works for complex.
Yeah.
shout out of my guy Jinks
He doesn't work at Conflicts
That's my brother
Yeah, no, I don't like that name for a stripper
Jinks?
That feels like you're going to rob me
Definitely
I'm getting lying by Jinks
What would you get a stripper name, Maul?
Excuse me?
What would be your stripper name?
If I was a stripper,
if I was a stripper,
but if I was a stripper
Mr. Maul.
No
I would probably be like
Mr. Mall would be funny
I'm not mad at that
It'd be vanity
You know
Vanity
Yo
Your stripper name
would be vanity
You know how hilarious that is
For a guy to be named vanity
That is really funny
Yo that's some funny shit
Vanity
No
I don't know
Because I don't know
What do they name
What are some male stripper names
I don't know any male stripper names
Like I can't
Long John
That's funny
I've never met a male stripper
I've been here
I've never met
Do they change their name
The way women do?
Yes
Okay
What's some male
A stripper name if you can remember one.
I said one long, John.
Oh, no.
I don't know why my brain retain this information.
Actually, I do because my cousin used to be a male stripper.
Okay.
But he wasn't.
Can we have him on the pod?
He's a completely different person now.
This was years ago.
Like, he's like an Israelite 5% of like.
Damn.
When I say completely different person, like, he gets mad when you like bring that up and show
those pictures.
I would be mad too.
Yeah, I would be also.
But it was a guy named Disaster.
Disaster.
Great battle rapper.
I was like, yo, who the fuck is disaster?
Like, it was like, ew, that's a
smoking URL.
Yeah, I was like, ew, disaster.
Like, that's a nasty-ass name.
Do you want to, you guys want to hear some popular male stripper names?
Sure.
Wait, did you Google this?
Your cookies are nasty.
Oh, they're terrible.
This algorithm is going to be nuts on the way of it.
I never like my suggestions.
Your girl's going to think something's up.
Yeah, but sure.
Kurt Stone.
Like, homie from the stickers.
Oh, my, Kurt Stone.
Paco Big.
That's your name.
That's you.
You are Paco Big.
That's your username.
That's how you got in Tiener.
your MacBook to Google that.
Brent Taint.
Cain Savage.
Kane Savage.
I'm not, that's an L. Rap name.
Kane Savage.
He got a sign of 21.
Axel Cash.
Tommy Long.
Okay.
That was closer with Demandis.
Dirk Cox.
I'm sorry?
Who?
I'm sorry?
Dirk Cox.
Burke butts.
All right.
I'm done.
I mean, I was going to give you one more.
Brent Naylor.
Clever.
It's like a duo.
They come up together.
Brent Cox and Brent Naylor.
They got a duet.
You don't remember the twin?
I can't say it on air.
Oh, yeah.
We only talk about that.
You know the twins, though.
I know you're talking about, yes.
Yeah.
Those are my guys.
Yeah.
Yeah, they was doing.
Roy, what would your stripper name be?
Come on.
You know, he would be orange sunkiss.
A sunkissed.
Orange slice.
Fanta.
Yeah.
Coming to the stage.
Coming to the stage.
Phantom.
I'm about to throw up.
Starburst.
Roy would definitely come out with a sweat suit on at first.
That rip off at the ass cheeks.
Can we see this?
No.
I think my stripper name would be cinnamon,
but I would spell it like sin,
like S-I-N.
Cinnamon.
Sin, O-Men?
I'm not too mad at that.
I feel like my-
That's a creative name.
If I were doing the male stripper shit,
I'd probably like playoff casino.
Ginger McKenna.
McKenna.
I could be Ginger from casino, no?
because I'm here to steal money
I'm a stripper like I'm I can't
Men can't take ginger back
So men strippers need like a gimmick right
So you either got to be like a firefighter or a cop
Or like what would you be?
A podcaster
You show with your microphone
Yeah
I would pod with these bitches
Oh you gotta have the microphone like a strap on
And tell her to sing to it
Oh god
I'd see where your brain I was joking
I was gonna take it there
I wasn't gonna take it there like
Damaris is sick
Her brain is fucking crazy
Speaking of like male strippers
And escorts and everything
Have y'all seen
You y'all seen the staircase dock
On Netflix, right?
No, what is the staircase dock?
You have not seen the staircase dock
On Netflix?
It's called The Staircase?
Yeah
I've seen children under the stairs
In lightness
One of the scariest movies ever
If you ever seen it.
My man Roach?
I know what you're talking about
Okay
It's about
This guy that
allegedly killed his wife.
She fell down the steps,
but she had so many fucking lacerations on her head
that it didn't make sense that she just fell.
Like, it looked like it was set up.
Okay.
It was a really, really, really big case.
I think I remember that.
I think I do remember seeing that.
So HBO...
Yeah, this was early 2000s.
Yeah, yeah.
The dot came out, I want to say like 2018, 2019.
Yeah, okay, I think I did see that.
So,
HBO Max put out a trailer,
which is, by the way, one of the best trailers
I'm not even exaggerating
that I've ever seen
for a TV series before.
Called the same thing,
but it's a scripted series
about the entire thing
rather than the dock.
It's called the staircase.
So it made me want to go back
and watch some of the staircase episodes
just to like, you know,
revamp my mind on that entire thing
because I think it comes out
May 5th, the first episode.
Okay.
I don't want to give away too much,
but them putting the male stripper
slash escort on the stand
at a murder trial,
I've never seen someone handle a stand
with more grace.
than that male escort.
His name was Brad.
Brad.
He sounds like he has under control, though.
Brad went crazy.
Brad went crazy because you know like,
you know anytime prosecution or defense has someone on the stand,
they get in their professional lawyer bag
and want to know details and,
like, I think his last name was Peterson.
So Mr. Peterson, what were the interactions you guys at?
And Brad was like, I mean, do you want me to get into it?
Oh, they wanted him to really get in a detail.
about their relationship.
It's like, yeah, no, I went there for anal sex.
Is that what you're looking for?
Damn.
Lawyer?
Damn.
He said that at, what?
Yes.
A synographer wrote anal sex.
Poor stenographer.
Okay.
I mean, you can't lie on the stand.
I cannot wait for that staircase shit.
Please watch the doc is like fucking 12 episodes, though.
That's kind of sucks.
I did.
I don't think I finished that, but I do remember seeing some of that shit on Netflix.
I don't think I finished it because I don't know how that story.
I can't remember how that story ended.
Well, I won't ruin it for the people that didn't see it, but watch the doc and
And I'm excited for the series.
But anyways.
So what's you guys' favorite murder case?
And I don't mean that, well, that sounded insensitive.
But like your most interesting murder case that, like, you, like, watch the documentary or heard a podcast and you was like, no, I got to look this up.
Like, I got to try to solve the crime.
You ever seen No Fuck With Cats?
I have.
Of course.
That sounds a good one.
And I did want to apologize to all the Internet lawyers.
and internet police
because they did actually
Oh yeah
because they really did their shit
there yeah
But the don't fuck with cats
Yeah
But they were like smart people
Most of the internet
Just be dumb people saying
Yo it's him
Right
Being people's IG comments
Saying that they're killers
And it's like
Excuse me
They really did
An actual search
The John Bonnet Ramsey case
To me
Yeah
Something that always
Remember what that one
Was about again?
Of course
A little girl
That was a beauty pageant
She was in a beauty pageant
She was like one of the
Like biggest
Young Beauty pageants
I forgot, is that what they call it?
I don't know what they call it.
Creepy is what they call them.
She was a pageant, a pageant star or whatever.
She was doing some shit, no kids should be fucking doing.
Like that whole, first of all, that whole world is just creepy.
Dressing little girls up like grown women and putting this big hair and big makeup on them and letting them walk her.
And then having adults judge them, weirdest thing on earth.
Yeah, that's just weird.
Yeah, that's just weird.
But she was like one of the biggest contestants in that world.
Okay.
And she was killed.
And so they, you know, it was a mystery because she was missing at first, I think, right?
Yeah, she was missing for a few hours.
Yeah, there was no, there was no break in.
There was no sign of breaking at the home.
They don't know how somebody could have taken out of the home because there was no signs of breakings.
There was no signs of forced entry.
There was no signs of struggle in the house.
There was like nothing.
You know what I mean?
So that case to me is one of the ones.
The one, well, they found, they found her in the basement a few hours later.
And the father was the one they accused the most.
And there was a theory of the brother who I think was like seven at the time that did it.
Yeah, that case is just fucking weird.
Yeah, that case was definitely one of the more weird cases that I remember from when I was young.
A lot of theories with that shit.
The one with the girl on her honeymoon, on their honeymoon, they was on the cruise.
And he threw his wife overboard on the ship.
I don't know if I remember that one.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, that one was crazy too.
actually on that honeymoon
yeah he threw it off the cruise ship
I mean I know it's kind of cliche
and recent but
that making a murderer one
the first season I was on board
of like
all right guys he did this
like I get it
I understand that the cops over here are corrupt
and they didn't prove it
and if he gets off I would understand
because they did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt
that he killed that woman
he killed that woman
they left out match in the dock
that like his sweat and like all this other DNA was all over her car they left that out of the dock
because I looked into it because I'm a weirdo when that second one came out though and the celebrity
lawyer chick did season two and started placing I don't know if she's just the fucking greatest
lawyer of all time but she had me going all right he might not have done this shit like
that case is not what I thought it was from season one rewatch season two yeah I want to have
he really might not have done that shit what stood out to you mostly though um
just her kind of tearing apart
all the shit that I did think was
true from the prosecution side
and
she added in options of
who could have done it because that's what was missing
from season one. Like who else
could have killed this one? Like it does not make sense.
His nephew or somebody was a suspect
right? Well his nephew was still in jail
they both went to jail. Oh yeah. His nephew
I don't think got like murder one but
went to jail for it because he was
supposedly there. It just
that case is
kind of odd to me.
The one of the new documentary on Netflix
with the neighbors.
Oh, no, you're talking about. Yeah.
Don't trust your neighbors or something like that. Yeah, something like that.
The one with the older lady, though, the older white lady.
Yeah, I told you all to watch that. Well, worst neighbor.
Yeah, worst neighbors.
Bro, that was crazy. That scares me more.
It was crazy because she wasn't as old as people thought because, you know,
white people age. Yeah.
Like bananas.
Yeah.
Thank you for my birthday.
As I'm aging.
She wasn't as old as people thought.
Right.
So it was like she was able to.
hide behind.
Like she would actually dress up as an older, like a grandma, basically.
She was next level with it.
Bro, she was killing people putting them in the backyard and just like collecting their
social security checks.
Like,
you remember the episode after that, though?
That's the shit that scares me the most is the people who are, what's the word?
They're not crouchers, but they're the people who like, they could go.
Squatters.
So they could go and let's say, let's say you invite somebody.
Right.
Exactly.
They live there now.
30 days.
30 days.
That's what it is?
Yeah.
You can't kick them out.
That's some crazy shit
I was gonna say.
She was definitely approaching day 22.
I got a few exes.
She was on day 22.
I'm glad she got up out of there before 30.
Like what?
I didn't know it was 30 days.
I've had a chick stay in my house.
She got to her second toothbrush.
I knew it was time to go.
Yeah.
Second toothbrush?
I knew it was time to go.
You're taking another one out of the pack?
You've been here too long.
Yeah.
You know how long it takes for me to get to my second to like five months?
That's nasty.
That's nasty.
Every five months, I changed.
I thought it was a very first.
four months.
Four or five.
I do every three.
Shit, I change my toothbrush maybe once a month.
Oh, well, yes.
I mean, that's cool.
You do some nasty stuff with your mouth though.
You wash your sheets or change your sheets off that?
Relax.
Absolutely.
I got a electric toothbrush.
I guess it's a little different.
I changed the head.
Yeah, every four months.
I'm not every month?
No, not every month.
Fair enough.
You guys see Evil Genius on Netflix?
I know we're going back on old shit.
No, that's when they strap the bomb.
Oh, I can't even.
Oh, yes.
Got the bomb around dude's neck.
Yeah.
I'm going to have to go watch that.
I didn't see that.
Old white ladies is crazy.
Yo.
That was some real sore shit to me.
I started looking at my grandmother different after I watched that.
I'm like, yeah, what could happen?
God bless her.
Rest and peace to Arlene.
That's my queen.
Oh, my God.
I think my favorite, the one that had me in a chokehold war, like I told you,
I was really late to the party, but the Adnan, Said came.
where they killed Heyman Lee, the young Asian girl in the high school, and they blamed her boyfriend.
And it was just this whole story. If you haven't heard of it, go listen to the serial podcast and the crime junkie podcast. There's a million podcasts on it, deep dive.
But that should have me in a chokehold. We do give, and I don't want to joke about that situation because a young woman's life was taken and their family's affected by it.
I am saying this in a lightweight, but also serious. We do give Joe Rogan.
a lot of credit for
podcasting and where it is now.
Heyman Lee and Anad
what's his last name?
Adnan Saeed, yeah.
I had probably done
just as much for podcasting
than Joe Rogan has.
When you tell me, I was like,
that's like the biggest podcast ever.
I was like, Rory, have you heard this?
And he was like, Demeris.
Yeah, when it came out,
like the biggest podcast that's ever existed.
We still want that when we was in L.A.
But it was started by,
it was hosted by investigative journalism
by Sarah Koenig
and then her producer
shout out to her
because what she did
with that podcast
was amazing
like when I listened
to that podcast
like it's a crime
podcast but I was in my head
internalizing like
oh I need to do this
with our podcast
and this like little things
like that
it was amazing
the way she told
the story and everything
because honestly
that's what it was
the story telling
yeah when you go into
to research the case
and like I said listeners
go do your due diligence
I was very late to the party
so you guys probably
already know what I'm talking about
she left so much out to make it a good story
because when you go investigate the case
it's pretty cut and dry
but the way she told it
had you like well is he guilty
is he not guilty and it was amazing podcasting
it was very admirable still with some
type of accountability on his end
and it wasn't super biased
but she was just really good at
making it seem like she was being
unbiased yes
when she wasn't in reality
but it made for a great story
And then she's stunking up with the Cleveland crime shit.
I didn't see that.
I don't want to sound like I hate her.
Because I did love the Army shit she did as well.
It was just one season I didn't like, which I think is fair.
Yeah, I mean, everybody has a season.
But yeah, I think that was pretty good.
And then also the crime, you guys saw the documentary on Netflix where the guy was sleeping with the daughter and the mother and the father.
Oh, of course.
What was the name of that?
That was the crazy shit I ever said in my life.
What was the name of that?
I forgot and I didn't even know if I wanted.
That was crazy.
That story?
That wasn't real, bro.
What you mean?
I've never been...
I've never been...
I've never been...
You're fucking all of them.
I've never seen like...
Because I've watched some very sick documentaries,
not even ones that are on...
I'm talking YouTube documentaries
where they're not really monitored.
Like, from a user that has a hundred subscribers
type of document.
I've watched some sick shit on the internet.
I was at the edge of my couch
after dude ran through the family,
which I thought was sick.
And then I started to...
feel for the father because I'm like as a father I'm
you know outside of you even
going near my daughter and that's number one I'm going to kill you
you fuck my wife hey my wife
it was consensual my wife wanted to fuck you
I can only get so mad
so I'm on this dude's side
for three episodes
then he on the couch is like
I beat two
bro
that at this point I'm like that is the illest neighbor of all
time that documentary was crazy as fuck I ran through a group of friends
before I wasn't proud of it wasn't my happiest
moments.
Yeah, but this is next level of shit.
He ran through a whole family.
Abducted in plain sight.
Any gender.
Abducted in plain sight.
On Netflix, if you guys.
Any gender he ran through.
That's crazy.
That shit is insane to me.
Did we check in with the pets?
I was just going to say that too.
They was walking a little funny, though.
You know what?
You know what?
You got a little gimp in his step.
See it.
Sparky was moving a little different.
Their family looks like they'd name their golden retriever Sparky.
Yeah, that was, I was watching.
Watching that shit and it was like every time I thought it couldn't get wilder, I was just like, and it got to a point where I had to go, nah, this is some, this is past, you know, people say this some white folk shit, this is past that. Like, y'all are wild. I had to turn it off. I didn't finish it. I've only created one meme in my entire life and it was because of that doc. Wow. And that, that meme went viral. I put a picture of that dude of that was about to go suck dick for water.
and and great time i put their photos side by side and asked who would have sucked the craziest dick
in what scenario that's a sick-ass question for your mind to even put that together is like
you're just a sick dude both docs came out at the same time and all these guys is one is sucking
dick to get his family back from the person that fucked his family and the other one is just trying
to get water to a festival for a ham sandwich yeah the fire festival that documentary was crazy
You know how committed to suck in dick, you got to be to just like suck dick.
When people are like, oh my God, I had to suck dick and stuff like.
You got to really commit to sucking dick.
But here's, all right, I don't know if they're comparable.
But in his defense, I was thinking about that because everyone's like, damn, that's crazy.
He's about to go suck some dick for some water.
Now, if my festival, I was thinking about, now listen, listen, listen, hear me out.
Hit me out.
If my live.
You can literally get water anywhere.
First of all, that's why it's just like, wait, why are you sucking dick for this, sir?
It's free water right down and blah.
If my livelihood was at stake, and at that time, Palooza existed during the Fire Fest era, I was thinking about it.
I was like, if our entire brand was at jeopardy and the only way to get water to the people that paid for not only their survival but for our brand, I might eat some pussy I wouldn't typically eat to make sure that festival went on.
But would you?
And he was gay, so it's not like he was a straight guy going to suck some dick for a festival.
He was doing an act that he likes, but it depends who he likes.
And I'm saying I like to eat pussy, it depends who the woman is.
I might put my standards a little lower to make sure Palooza got the water if it came down to eating some pussy or not.
That's what leaders do.
So I wasn't really mad at him.
You said leaders eat.
As a Paloozer goer, I appreciate you.
Like if you had no water, but I just had to quickly lick some pussy that I probably, you know, I could get some mouthwash after.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Oh, we have mouthwashed in the water.
Okay.
Do your thing.
Yeah, that would be crazy.
Also, why did you say quickly?
Like, don't have got to be like a whole set.
You got to do it to completion.
I don't know if you got a liquor tissue.
Eat and pussy until orgasm?
Child.
No, I don't love you going to all right.
You ill, Edd.
I'm like, good luck.
They call a motor mouth E.
You're going crazy in them sheets.
That's Moldemouth E right there.
Spanish men give the best of it.
They do.
They do.
You go.
At Eden.
I didn't know.
All right.
All right.
I eatin.
I hear you.
Oh, man.
Oh, God, yo.
And no, we don't know if Spanish men eat the best pussy.
I do.
In your experience.
No, and women's experience.
Are you going to speak for all women?
Women are on one group chat and think they speak for all women.
Well, they kind of speak together and come to a conclusion.
Yeah, but I've seen a lot of women's group chats that are just, they're all delusional.
They're not all speaking for women.
All 10 of them are on the same delusion
They're not speaking for women
It sounds like hell
It sounds like literally the seventh circle of hell
10 people, right?
In a group chat?
It shouldn't be that many people.
We have 10 people in our work group chat though
But I think that's why we all have it on silent
But we don't have 10 active people
Yeah, it'd be like Benner when he's drunk
I can never tell one
That's Carl and Pige's fucking Haven
Pige be going crazy in the group chat
But that's Pige
I just don't really know Pige that's why
Peage be going crazy
But you got to it's but I
You know why I like, because this is such thing as group chat etiquette.
But Peas don't go off until somebody else said it up.
Then he crazed.
Julian usually does the alley.
Who?
Julian.
Yeah.
He does the alley and then Pete just slams it.
He goes crazy.
He lets you know I've been saving up all of this shit.
I got memes, files, all kind of shit.
Don't want to be the guy that pops it off.
Yeah, yeah.
He's going to wait.
He's going to wait.
And then as soon as somebody opens the chat, Pee's go crazy.
For anybody wondering, Pee's just our graphic designer who does our clips and our graphics.
A good job.
All the sick shit that...
Love it.
His mind.
He gives you a glimpse to his mind every week.
It's like I come up like literally P's, like, what do you want for the episode?
And I'll come up with like the most...
I was like, P's, you know what?
I want this.
And he'll come up with it.
I'm like, how did you put that together just from what I said?
He got that already.
He's mine.
Yeah.
He already had a done.
We're sick guy.
Very dark.
What is group chat etiquette?
I miss group me.
Is what I miss.
What is group me?
Group Me?
Group Me was an app that was four group chats.
I remember that.
I do remember that.
It, like, left your phone alone.
Yeah.
Like, of course you could put notifications on, but if you put those on, you were a psychopath.
Like, you might as well just have the I message joint.
GroupMe, you could just go into it when you was ready to talk in the group chat.
It didn't affect your battery.
It didn't affect your phone.
Like, your phone wasn't vibrating nonstop.
It could just be over there.
And if it had 15 people in it, it wasn't that big a deal.
Okay.
It just made your life manageable.
I remember GroupMe?
I wish we need a group me.
You guys did kick?
No.
I didn't never.
I know what you told me.
but no, I was never.
Slack is probably one of the worst things to remember.
I've never done Slack before.
I used to do an email chain with the influencers.
You were like the original influencer.
The OGI.
I have never did no email chain with influencers.
It's on, bro, it's on an episode.
Like, we recorded talking about it.
Oh, no.
It was a group chat we had on our black groups.
On Yahoo.
Yeah, on AIM.
Oh, BBMs.
Yeah, BBMs.
It was a, yeah, the VIP group chat.
Yeah, but I was like better than everyone else.
No, we weren't.
No, we weren't better.
It was some, trust me, some losers in there.
We weren't better than anywhere.
It was just, always losers in VIP.
Always.
VIP is littered with losers.
Yeah, that was fun times, though.
That was, that was some fun times because that was like the BBM Blackberry days.
It was just, it was just different.
Sidekick those days.
You still love AIM.
I still have an AIM email.
They keep hitting me to my aim has been sold or some shit.
Like, you have to like.
Change your email.
I was like, man.
I was nothing.
I guess surprise whenever I see it at Yahoo.
email. I have, I still have my Yahoo email
email where I do all of my
their email too. I have a Yahoo email too. I have a hotmail
email that's I think my recovery on my Gmail.
How shit. Yeah my Yahoo's my recovery from my
I was I was so mad when Jen on
106 in Park said uh I go online to check my hot mail
you go on there to check out hot mails. I was like
damn I had to get rid of this email now.
That was a bar back then though. At 106 in Park
in 2002
back then that was a bar. Gin went fucking crazy.
Yeah, how many weeks of Jen win that shit?
Like 12 or some shit?
You guys should revive one of some part.
They've tried that with mad people.
Well, we should do a...
And maybe that's something we can talk about.
We should do a video countdown though.
I would like that.
Oh, I missed those.
Oh, that would be fine.
Superfire.
Yeah, we should do a video countdown.
Because videos are still extremely important right now.
So it's not like they've disappeared.
Just the countdown should have disappeared.
Yeah, we should do that.
That'll be actually fun.
Because now you only see videos unless you sit on YouTube
and fall down a rabbit hole of an artist
and then end up on Vivo.
Best thing, you're like, oh, shit,
I didn't even know I had a video for this.
People got the bag from that, huh?
Yeah, absolutely.
I wouldn't say the artist, the labels got the bags.
And Viacom did.
Yeah.
Freestyle Friday was kind of, that was a thing, though.
That was a great thing in the postage.
It was Jen, who was the guy before Jen?
Poster Child.
Post a boy.
Postal boy.
Post a boy.
Then my man Blind Fury.
Blime Fury went crazy.
Shout to Blime.
He tore that shit down a few weeks.
Blind Fury has at least seven or eight Rory and Mall bars that I've heard in Freestyles
on Instagram.
For real?
He doesn't tear us up.
He's still rapping?
Yeah.
I didn't even know Blond Fury was still getting his balls off.
Remember when he imitated Chris Brown in the freestyle with Chris Brown as the judge?
He could sing.
Blonde Fury was dope, man.
He was super dope.
Yeah, Bond Fury was really, really good.
I still think Skazoo beat Jen.
Was it Jen he went against?
I think Skazu won.
I can't remember that one.
I think
Immortal Technique
battled once as well.
Everybody touched.
Anybody that...
No, but it's different.
The people that ended up
actually being
like rappers with successful careers
that people forget
were on freestyle Friday.
Like, I remember
a Mortal Technique
on Freestyle Friday
talking, like,
saying some shit about Jerome's niece
and I was like,
oh yeah, you're not going to win this.
But I'm talking about
like the Nas Il-Matic bar
Guess who got shot in the dome piece
Jerome's niece coming home from Jones Beach
You referencing is that just
It was like you look like a broke core mech
I'm like wait no this is not gonna no
But no one's gonna understand the bars you're saying right now
I remember that
How did your brain retain that though?
Because that was my error bro
Like I would run home
You been in one of sister park for
Like a live taping?
No I used to
My first summer interning at Def Jam
was when they still use tapes
So I used to in the fucking
Dead Heat
Walk from 50
and eighth down to where 106 in Park was, which is on 509th and the Westside Highway.
Or I'd have to go.
56.
Yeah.
56, I think, yeah.
So one time I went with Big Boy when he was on, and that was my only time actually being in the studio.
And at that point, 106 in Park wasn't really 106 in Park.
But no, I never went to a live tape.
I wish.
I've been a few all live tapings in 106.
That was, like, it was fun to see that.
Like, when you watch something all the time on television, then you actually.
actually go and see how it was put together.
But it wasn't that, like you say that, Tamarais, it wasn't that difficult.
Like, I remember girls in my high school would go, like, girls in college would go.
It was kind of easy to get on the list.
Yeah.
You had to, like, send an email.
It wasn't like a crazy, you had to know somebody.
You would just get picked.
And it wasn't that many people that was.
When I won the dance battles for their, my high school dance team.
Okay.
I can't remember why I didn't go.
Were you in there?
Like punishment or like suspended or something.
something like that.
But they went on 106 in Park for like the dance competition at one point.
Those are good times, man.
What's free and AJ doing?
And I want to make this a nostalgic podcast.
I know AJ was doing something would I think one of those new those stations.
Because I've seen him on like covering, I don't know if he was covering the Met Gallo one year.
Okay.
And I don't mean that in a demeaning way because I know a lot of people take that as when you say,
yo, what are they doing?
No, I just don't be unaware sometimes.
No, we love them.
They're legends.
Yeah.
No, because a lot of time people would be doing fly shit, you just don't know because I don't pay attention.
Yeah, I'm not sure what Free is doing, but I don't used to make sure I watched it every day, though.
Free was the first one.
Free finest, oh my God.
That was the first one way it was like, I'm going to 106 and Park, man.
I got to see that thing in real life.
We was young, well, we was young.
We was young.
Listen, we didn't have Instagram back then.
That's true.
I will say, as a confession, the first time, I think it was my first week at Def Jee.
and I was in the video promo department.
I had to deliver a video.
And like, hey, can you take this to 106 in Park?
I went to 106 in Park.
Oh.
Well, it used to be over there.
I know.
Yeah, yeah.
It used to be over there.
Damn.
I went to 106 in Park. And I, you know, I'm not that old.
Cell phones existed.
I called the woman I was interning for.
I'm like, so like, where do I go now that I'm here?
And she's like, where are you?
I was like, I'm at 106 in Park.
I'm at 100.
6th Street in Park Avenue.
She's like, baby, baby.
106 and Park hasn't been there for quite
some time.
But it's fucked up because they used to be there.
She's telling you to go to 106 and Park.
So you're thinking like a not...
And it was like my first week.
So I figured they would have given me an ad.
I thought she was giving me the address.
Like, because that was what 106 in...
Yeah.
You told me to go to 106 and Park.
Yeah.
You told me to go to 106 and Park.
That's what I went to 106 and Park.
And my friends in high school, I went to tapings.
Yeah.
It was at 106 in Park.
Yeah.
That's hilarious though.
I'm not sure why they moved it.
I'm sure Viacom moved some shit over.
Sheeper studio, but, you know, things like that.
But how was the actual 106 in Park Studio?
It was nice.
It was, I've been to both.
Obviously, the one I think on 56th Street was the better one.
That's the CBS building, I think.
Yeah, of course, in the BMW shit.
Yeah.
That's the only one I've been to.
That studio was obviously nicer.
But it was just, it was dope to see everything that goes into it,
like the cameras and the producers and, you know,
know, the kids waiting outside to come into the building and all of that.
Like, it was just, it was like, okay, this is how, this is how TV works.
You get to see how TV works before, you know, you sit down and watch it and take it all in.
I don't know how it is, but that the CB, because I know Nick Cannon's, they shoot Wiling Out across the street from there.
Okay, I don't know.
When it was in New York, the Wile and Out studio.
Every Wile and Out girl never wanted to be seen in public with me.
But the studio in Atlanta that they have now, the Tyler Perry shit, that shit is crazy.
Oh, should we go?
I would love to shoot some shit on that lot.
How many wild enough?
Never mind, forget it.
All right, see, now you about to start a whole other.
How many wild-in-out girls, what?
Huh?
Like, do you, like, no, personally, as a friend?
One, maybe, two?
Okay.
Before.
I'm saying before and after.
Because you definitely groom some, and they became wild-in-out girls.
That's my awesome.
You definitely grew up.
You groomed some into being wild-out girls.
No, no.
that out there. I never groomed a woman to become anything. Don't even put that narrative out there.
The best version of herself is what I was saying. Yeah, yeah, I know. And unfortunately,
that was the best version of her. And wild and out girl? I know, like, three girls that did,
like, the wild and out girl shit. Maybe more. I don't, I don't. You definitely know more.
Because they used to do, like, a whole season to be the same girls. Then it moved into, like,
every other episode. Well, Nick was just grabbing all the star tenders at one point. Exactly. That's what I'm
saying. You know them. Yeah. He started grabbing, like, a bunch of IG models and things like that.
And then I think he just, you know, we got to get into Nick Cannon a little bit, though.
Like, Nick, yo, Nick, first of all, Nick Cannon is a legend.
I agree with you.
Definitely.
You'll never hear otherwise from me.
But Nick is, just think about, yo, I'm going to create a show, a skit comedy show.
Love it.
Legendary.
Great.
And I'm going to have, like, beautiful girls just stand around the entire studio.
And then I'm going to impregnate something.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
You know what I mean?
Like, I just.
I think that that's like just like okay
give them job you give them hope and then you say
you know what I like you I'm going to make you a part of my family
I'm going to show you why they called me canon
and make you a part of the family
y'all hiring anybody hiring
is anybody fucking hiring
I'm just saying only a nigga with money could get that off
so are you suggesting that maybe DJ DREC's name
came from the home wrecking that all those women were doing
with one of the icon
I'm not going to say it's not.
I can see why you would put that together.
So is DJDrek actually Nick Cannon's alter ego?
That's his co-deat.
That's his co-defendant.
DJD. Rec my home.
Yo, Nick Cannon is a legend, but like, dole, think about it.
Like, he has baby mothers, like, how many now?
Seven?
I think more than that.
It's more than that at this point.
Maybe.
More.
And I think he has somebody pregnant right now.
Like, it's like nonstop with him.
That's what I'm saying.
So just the, I'm glad we got a woman here for this.
How does that work?
How do you have a guy that
adding both of these are on?
I don't know if this one is green.
Oh, that's what?
Yeah, the green.
I've never seen green in my time.
I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Oh, Nick Cannon, as of April 25th, 2020,
he has had seven kids with four women.
Oh, so it's seven kids, four women.
Oh, come on.
That's not bad.
That's a regular Irish.
I mean, there's people pregnant right now, though.
Wait, he has children that are on the way that...
Yes.
Well, every child is a blessing.
are they?
Yes.
Pregnancy is a blessing.
Yeah, I think your parents.
No, it's not.
Not when your kids turn out to ruin the world.
Right.
Well, something went wrong.
That was a bad C.
But the idea of being pregnant is a blessing.
At some point, I'm sure, when Hitler's mother was pregnant,
someone said, oh, this child is a blessing.
We have to stop saying that out loud.
Like, there's a lot of shitty people that all of us have been like,
oh my God, this is a blessing.
Like, look at your angel.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, they're going to grow up and destroy.
He needs to be fucking locked away.
You should have fucking hit the X button on this one.
The X button.
Stop, because right now, this is the subject
because they're trying to take away abortions.
That's the craziest shit in the world.
Yeah, I'm going to stock up on P&B.
Taking away abortion is craziness.
I don't even understand how they're really sitting around
debating this shit.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no Republican, ma'all.
These are your people.
She has a point.
It's not my people.
You don't think it's Democrats in there that's with that too?
Don't do that.
We ain't doing that.
But y'all's side entire narrative has always been based on no abortion.
Pro-life.
Yeah.
But don't know-choice.
But Democrats, for the most part, and again, I'm not a Democrat, but Democrats are pro-choice.
Pro-choice, yeah.
You guys are pro-life because you guys are all amazing Christians.
Why are you saying I'm not a Republican, bro?
I just thought that Donald Trump was the better choice between him and Joe Biden.
Like, now I'm a Republican.
It's like, what you're talking about?
Well, you got the red on.
Huh?
Got the red on.
Yeah.
It's for Donnie.
It should say 24 for 2024, but no matter.
You know what?
Wow.
Oh, he's coming back.
Donnie going to spend the block.
Anyway, stockpile up on your, it's not official yet, but stockpile up on your plan B's.
I'm, I don't think they're going to over, they can't overturn it.
Plan B is part of, uh, Roby Way, too?
No.
Yeah, I don't think so.
They can't.
Preventive.
That's a CVS thing.
Yeah, preventative measures aren't.
I mean, but what is their point on that?
What are the exact, give me the exact details because sometimes I try to avoid shit for my own,
I'm not even joking, my own mental health.
Because I can't, like, I can't really get into deep diving into a lot of this stuff.
I do need to avoid it for my own sanity.
Are they saying a certain amount of month you can't get an abortion after,
or are they trying to get the fuck out of here with abortions, period?
They're trying to overturn Roe v. Wade, which was a very big landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court ruled that the Constitution of the United States protects a woman's liberty to choose an abortion without excessive government restriction.
So basically women's right to choose if they want to have an abortion or not.
But it gets into the, you would have to dive really deep to figure out how many months in because some people think that birth, I mean that life begins at inception.
Like the moment you nut in me, like this is now a lot.
life.
Some people think it starts like three months.
Some people think it starts when the brain develops.
It's very, yeah.
I just want people to stop.
Who's leading the charge right now against abortion?
Against abortion?
Who's the prosecutor on this one?
So right now,
representing the state.
So the reason why it's such a big thing is because a Supreme Court document leaked
where a lot of people have privately voted to get rid of it.
So everybody's now trying to figure out what's real, what's rumor and things like that.
But that's why I didn't want to get into it too much.
Pray for women.
It didn't really come out like it was real yet.
Yeah, it was a leak and we don't know.
I don't think that you can ever get rid of abortion.
I would just love to know in a scenario or hypothetical state that all the men that are on the Senate or whoever gets to decide this eventually, if they could get pregnant and they got pregnant, what their decision would be in this entire.
The crazy shit is that all of those people, their side chicks and their daughter, their underage daughters who are fucking, they'll still get abortion.
Oh, 100%.
This will affect poor women.
Oh, that's the only one of the effect.
Yeah.
And, I mean, I know there's a lot of things attached to that case outside of just abortion when it comes to women's health.
And I know that's a fucking, it's a weird ass in 2022 that this is even really a conversation to be had.
Yeah.
But since we're talking about conspiracy theories, one of the.
conspiracy theories. I grew up hearing. I'm not going to put his name out there. But is that
Planned Parenthood was created to minimize black children. As in, it was, yeah, it was created
so that black, poor people, which tended to be people of color would be able to get rid of
their babies. So to denounce like their amount of how many black people and Hispanic people
were in the world, that was the end game.
What's the proper work for that?
Of Planned Parenthood.
Starts with a G.
Can't think of it.
A genocide, right?
Kind of.
Yes.
Yes.
I heard that too.
But I also do think a lot of this going against abortion laws has to do with getting the Christian vote and getting the South vote because that's really the gay marriage thing they can no longer use to distract.
So let's go to abortion.
That's our next thing.
It was gays in the military, then it was gay marriage.
Now let's distract everyone with abortion.
And that's what that's going to be.
It's just stupid as fuck that people are deciding to make laws about what people can,
specifically women can do with their bodies.
I just think that's the weirdest shit like ever.
Like how are you trying to make a law where you determine what a woman can do to and with her body?
You know, it's crazy.
And then are extremely happy that Elon Musk bought Twitter so you can get your racist tweets off.
Dead marks.
Free speech, but you don't have freedom over your body.
And that still happens even to this day, even without this decision.
Like, if I went right now, I don't have any kids and I'm not married.
If I went right now to try to get my tubes tied, a doctor would tell me no.
Most doctors would tell me know.
And if I was married.
Because you don't have kids.
Because I don't have kids.
And even if I was, if I did have kids and I was married, a lot of them would require, like, my husband's permission to do that.
That's crazy.
I would have to come back like around like three times in order for them to.
And they don't do it if you're under a certain age, like all of these things.
Well, let me ask you this.
If I want to go get a vasectomy right now, I'd be fine, right?
No problem.
No problem.
So the men birth control, that has been approved.
Is that out?
Is that like a thing?
I don't know if it's a thing.
It'll never be a thing.
Why not?
Why not?
It'll never be a thing.
Y'all know why it'll never be a thing.
No.
We don't know why?
Because it causes a lot of, all birth controls have side effects and they cause a lot of damage.
Oh, for sure.
And the men that create these drugs.
and the men that own the pharmaceutical companies,
they are aware of these risks,
so it'll never be a big thing.
I mean, I've joked about my pull-out game,
and I'm really not trying to make a joke here.
Any woman I've taken seriously where I was like,
oh, eventually I may want to have a child with this woman,
when she's like, oh, should we just get on birth control?
I've always said no,
because I don't know what side effects are going to happen
in the long run when we do want to have children in that regard.
So let me try my best to pull out.
People will never understand.
If men had to deal with the side effects
that women had to deal with on birth,
control.
Like, it's not even, no.
We'd be fatter than what we are already.
Fad.
Gaining weight.
I got,
the reason why I got off birth control
because I was having suicidal ideations
were out of the window.
I was sitting there watching TV and was like,
oh, I want to kill myself.
And I knew in my head, this is your birth control.
You're absolutely fine.
Really?
Yes.
Yes.
Sitting there.
Medications.
It's just not good.
Yeah.
And went to the kitchen and grab a night.
They have a really good.
And I thought I was crazy until I talked to other women that were like,
you need to get off birth control.
I was the first thing they said.
you need to get off birth control.
Mentally that really like strains you.
Like they have a good,
um,
documentary on Netflix
from Sex Explain about different
your body.
Right.
And it's,
you have natural hormones.
Right.
So you're putting hormones in your body
that are changing,
like you think changing your mood.
It's confusing your entire fucking body.
It's horrible.
That's that's,
that's a deeper conversation.
Like if,
if,
if they can link like birth control to,
you know,
suicide and women,
now we're talking about a whole,
different discussion. Well, I think they need to
really focus on
because there's birth control
benefits that are
outside of just not having a kid. I think
with period
stuff. Come on, I'm just a man.
I'm not going to pretend like I know.
They just need to focus on how to get
what Damaris is saying
out of that medication because there
is benefits to it. So it's not
I feel like they'll use that
excuse to be like, see, it causes suicidal thoughts.
so that's why men should control
what women do with birth control.
Yep.
Bruh.
But then again,
but then if you go to any medication
on any major network
out of the end of every commercial,
hey, this will probably cause suicidal thoughts.
But they don't use that excuse
with any other medication
except for a birth control
or something like that.
Like, Maul, you talked about
how you fucked a woman's IUDO.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
I don't know if we cut that out
or if we left it in the episode.
He was 18.
He was 18.
He was young.
Yes.
You fuck the woman's IUD out.
You know that that can get stuck and cause death.
You can actually get pregnant with,
if it moves,
you can get pregnant with the IUD.
The IUD can kill the baby.
Like,
it's so much shit.
That is so dangerous.
I've ever seen a picture of a baby,
a newborn baby holding the IUD.
I never knew if that was real or not.
I don't think it's real.
I assume that was fake,
but I'm not a medical professional.
I think the picture was real.
I think what they did was hand the IUD.
to the baby, like for the picture
just to prove like, hey, this one is out.
That's a crazy.
That's a crazy.
You were the nastiest.
They were Photoshop that and they actually put that IUD in the baby's little fist.
It's like, hey, a little fella, hold this.
If you were the person that put that IUD in that baby's hand and ever use the word trauma in your life, get away from me.
That is sick.
That is some sick.
The baby came out the womb.
Here's some trauma, kid.
Here's some trauma.
And we're going to document it.
That shit is crazy.
No, I think it was Photoshop.
I think it was Photoshop.
I would hope so.
Yeah, that's sick.
But yeah, that happened.
Like, literally how IUD was like in the shower, like on the shower floor.
So, thank.
And that is extremely painful insertion, all of that.
But I'm not going to be pro-women because this is a toxic, massagenist podcast, which we love.
Yeah, no, we let us control everything.
Yeah, exactly.
Stay out of it, Toots.
Toots.
This is for.
That's such a great word.
Can it Tuts?
Oh, Tud is a great.
We got to bring Tuts.
We do need to.
Such a great word.
Tuts.
This was my shit.
Toots is a great word.
Tuts.
Broad.
Broad.
I always love broad.
My father still uses that.
Of course.
I just tell him to just like lower his voice when he says it because I still like it.
I'm not with you on broad.
Just like just.
Dad, lower.
She's not this loud in this parking lot.
So, Rory, what's your favorite conspiracy theory that you think is true?
That you don't think is a conspiracy you think it's true.
And hey, by the way, Fahrenheit 9-11 is off, that's off guard because everybody know that's really real.
That's not a real conspiracy theory.
Farronite 9-11, the book that was before 9-11 or 9-11?
9-11.
Oh, well, I mean.
I like where your mind is, though.
That's a great book.
Yeah, because Fahrenheit 9-11 came out before 9-11.
It's a great book.
Oh, you're talking about the documentary.
Yeah, he's talking about, well, the book was well before.
He just used the book title that had nothing to do with.
Yeah.
That was about Fahrenheit Cologne for men.
It was a great phrase.
Great sense.
Yeah.
Well, we could get into 9-11.
It's all a conspiracy, but which concerns.
Are you all the way with that they set up speakers in all of New York City with plain noises?
Because I've gone down that rabbit hole.
That's like a bit much.
Fam, there is a full doctor.
You would have seen niggas setting up speakers like here.
There's a full doctor with like a PhD that was like, oh, all that was like a simulation
with the cameras and all those noises that everyone heard were speakers in Lower Manhattan.
No, absolutely.
No, it definitely happened.
No, this is someone with a doctorate.
Like, he went to a school.
That's going way too far down a rabbit hole
That's like too much
Like I get it
Like a plane
It was just a bomb
And then they just put the plane
And all the footage
And then the shit we heard
Was just plain noises
I remember Roy texted me one time
And said
I don't know if you remember this
You randomly text me one day
I was like yo
The English language is a curse
Oh yeah
I definitely went down that rabbit
Whoa whoa whoa whoa
I need to hear this
What do you mean
I really do this conspiracy shit
though
No I don't think a lot of this shit
conspiracies. I think it's just the truth.
No, but he's right though.
Okay, spell. All right. Spelling.
Spelling. It's a spell.
It's a spell. There's specifically how
we speak and the words we use
and how they affect our mood
are very intentional and how the
English language goes. Spell,
spelling. Same way you go down
to liquor, spirits. Like
these things are not by accident.
And I'm not the crazy conspiracy.
No, that's really good. It makes sense. I'm not the crazy
YouTube conspiracy. I get that part. But talk to
the English language being
spelling. I mean, even just from that
I felt like just by tone
and like there's a reason we have vowels
and there's a reason
why certain enunciations
have to be required in every single word
because when you say them
it affects our brain a certain way
the way a spell would
like the way you say things.
Like need and need are two different
it's sound the same for our spell differently
have two different ideations I guess.
To our subconscious there's a reason
why certain vowels are the way they are
why they're required in every single word that we say no matter the sentence and what it is.
The English language is one of the newest languages, if not the newest.
So they had some time to get it together and how they put the English language together.
At the end of the day, for the most part, the English language is the same way we talked about on Patreon,
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As far as currency goes, it is just something that was created as far as a lot of ancient languages.
are pure communication.
There's not anything
really attached to it.
You just had to communicate.
That was just the way
we communicated.
We came to an understanding.
The English language was created.
It was specifically created
by the same people
that specifically created
currency, specifically created a lot of things.
And they weren't dumb.
So a lot of them, eyes wide shut parties
that I'd be joking about, yeah.
I get it.
I just don't know if I get.
Like someone owns the color blue.
Right.
I get all of that.
I just don't know if I give enough credit to people to make such a thing happen.
That far back, yeah, to have just the brain.
And if you were to ask your friends on two-fifth right now, they say that's the point.
I want you.
Yep.
I want you to understand.
Those are not my friends.
Open that third eye.
They would tell you purposely, they made sure you would not give anyone credit.
Because, like, come on, humans not doing that.
You know, they are.
And I think that we make the mistake a lot of times, all of us do, of thinking that people back in the day,
just because they lived differently than us,
that they were dumber than us,
that we have somehow become smarter.
When in reality, as a society,
we have actually become a lot stupider.
That was a goal.
We just have a lot of things that do things for us, right?
No, distractions.
And you can get really intelligent in distractions.
All right.
The way Edin, and I don't want to point him out on this,
because he's actually smarter than me.
Fuck him.
But as far as, like, how technical Edin is
and the distraction of every last technical thing
that he focuses on can be taken advantage of.
Because that's all he's, he's paying attention to what his passion is,
and it's into technicality shit that they also own create.
And so, but he's not going to pay attention to what the language means.
Great theory, though.
I love that.
But no, they weren't dumb.
This was the point of back then to create this society.
Let's create all these distractions.
Let's create the language, the currency, everything to put people in a routine every single day.
I get that.
I mean, I go deeper than that.
A job is just a thing that we.
was created.
I feel like that about religion.
I feel like that was time too.
Religion is the,
is the original.
Yeah.
Like that,
that was all made to, you know,
control.
Control and, you know,
get guide people a certain way.
I mean, yeah,
if we go down that hole,
then yeah,
we'll be,
but I understand what you're saying.
I just needed more.
I'll send you some stuff.
I won't get,
because I don't want to be the one
that turn this episode
into me going down the rabbit hole
of the English language.
That's literally what the episode is about.
But I'm saying we can go into each one
from a surface level
and let people do their own research.
I'm not about to break down what the vowel of A, E, Y.
Like, I'm not about to do that.
Okay.
But I do think they all are connected to some degree as far as we, you know,
we joke about Democrat-Republican shit all the time.
That fucking.
Donald Trump is a distraction.
Joe Biden is a distraction.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, God, you sound like so crazy.
It's all a fucking distraction.
I love it.
This is the thing, though, we don't sound crazy.
I mean, I guess we...
To some people, we might.
To some people.
I think if you are living in this world
and you think that everything that happens in America
and everything that has just has a...
Just has a reason and everything just makes sense to you.
Like, if you're living in this world right now
and COVID makes sense to you
and the way that America works makes sense to you
and the government makes sense to you,
like everything has an explanation.
Like even people who go into who are doctors and stuff
and they say, oh, science, it's just science.
Like this doesn't...
there's an explanation for everything.
I think you're crazy.
Because there's been so many things that we have no explanation for.
Like even when Rory said, like, you know, how the English language, when he text that to me,
it was random because he just randomly texted to me.
Like, we had no prior conversation.
But it made sense to me at the same time because I'm like, what do y'all think manifest in it?
When people tell you to speak something into existence, they're not just being facetious.
Yeah.
They're being for real.
Do you guys think America is so fucking star?
Spangled banner awesome and freedom and all that, whereas the people that are actually in power
would say, let's be fair. Every four years, let's have an election for the most powerful person.
Fam. Sir Lucian hasn't left Universal and never fucking will.
You're not going to get a new president at Universal every four years. No. This is a fucking
joke. It's a distraction to be like, oh yeah, what a fair and balanced way to look at things. That every four
years it should be the new powerful person.
No, that motherfucker is nothing but a face.
He's nothing but six nine.
I definitely didn't get there.
He's like he's nothing but the new guy.
But see, now we're about to get into Donnie.
Distractions.
To distraction.
But if you look at a lot of his speeches and things he was saying, he was alluding to a lot
of shit.
Like you, you don't think, we're not in as much control as you think you are.
But he's, nah, he was moving with the times because the same way we talk about the
Music, consumer being smarter than they've ever been as far as how things are being put out.
Political to some degree is getting there where people are less on the we love America shit.
More on though.
Yo, what the fuck is going on?
Right.
So Donnie went with the times.
He was bringing shit up, was still inciting people that hated minorities and was also telling the whites like, hey, you don't have much control anymore because people are starting to get information and look at things sideways.
So they felt like they had someone that wasn't really a politician.
Meanwhile, he's playing the same political game.
He's just remarketing the shit at the time that it mattered in 2020.
That's all it is.
He's just the new face.
Hillary couldn't do that because she was too much of the old school.
It's just marketing.
You think the same people ain't been in power forever.
There's no way power is going to rotate every four years in the most capitalistic,
if you will, most powerful, quote-unquote country.
in the world. No fucking way are they going to every four years go, let's switch it up.
It's the same people. Let's switch the face up to make the people feel like this is some
fair and balanced shit. Agreed, which is why I laugh when people, you know, you're talking about
who they're voting for and this, you know, I look at all of that shit like, bro, it doesn't,
the vote has already been decided. We're not voting. So that's what I was going to ask y'all.
Do you all think there's, I, that's in my ill, like conspiracy theory back, I feel like there
is like a committee that actually is holding this shit down.
Of course it is. Like a fucking hydrant.
Everybody may be 12 people in a room.
Yeah.
That decide like, all right, man, listen, we need, we need him in that chair for these four years.
We need him in that chair for these four years.
And guess who does it?
Polach our wallace.
They're in my pocket.
Ah, the debt president.
Chase, B of A.
Money.
Money runs the world.
Are you crazy?
Y'all fighting over these politicians and all that shit.
You're thinking that they run the world, you think that they're going to sit up there and let somebody a reality TV star really being concerned.
really be in control
at a most powerful country in America
are y'all fucking stupid
seriously no one's laughing that
any time we get in these presidential debates
about how much money we're in debt for
that they don't
no one asks who are we in debt with
no we just see that big ass number down
in Union Square I know
no one ever asked so who are we in debt with
wait y'all know that's not the debt right
us the bank
our fucking bank
It was a joke, Edna.
Yes, I know that.
I had some people that really thought that used to be that they thought that was our debt.
That's nothing else.
Oh, no, no.
That was the running joke for a long time.
Oh, man.
Some people I thought, some people really thought that was our debt thought.
To this day, I think that's probably if you went to Union Square and asked them when they say that's our.
You just say it's their debt.
It's the U.S. debt.
But we're in debt every year with ourselves.
100%.
Like, that be the laughable shit.
Yeah.
Like, that's all about.
None of this shit is real, y'all.
And I want to make sure I'm stupid.
I want everyone to know that.
Yeah.
Y'all would tear me part of the mentions and be like, no, listen, I really subscribe to Biden.
I'm always willing to hear different conspiracy theories and things like that.
Only because, you know, information, it gives you a different point of view, a different angle on certain things.
It helps you think differently on certain things that you think you may have figured out.
Like, okay, that's interesting.
Like, I never really try to like just turn, you know, my head when somebody starts talking about, yo, what you think about this?
I just, I try to listen to conspiracy theories.
I try not to get too caught up in it to where it's like it starts to affect my day-to-day life.
Right.
But I listen to it.
You know what I mean?
But you do realize conspiracy theories are extremely important for the people we're talking about.
Yes, absolutely.
Because the only way we will fight amongst each other and not ever fix things will be if the conspiracy theory side and the freedom I love America side just argue all motherfucking day.
So we're distracted.
you're never going to
you're never going to fix anything
right so like they got to put little
that's why I'm saying
Donald Trump was so important
to their message
where he seemed like he was anti-political
in
2018 to 20 to now
2022 he is the most important
figure to the political process
because all he is doing
is going with the times
to make sure
everyone stays arguing
right
right that's why he's so important
from down to race
to political party
down to issues that don't fucking matter.
Like men choosing women's rights.
Like yeah, just let women do that and shut up
and let's move forward.
This shouldn't be a whole thing.
That's all that is.
You need to fight over that stuff
because if all the common sense shit was fixed,
we would actually have to start paying attention
on what the fuck is going on around us.
Go look at old presidential debates
of even as of recent when
fucking McCain versus Obama.
They were legitimately debilessing
debating gay marriage on a
network as the two possible political leaders
of our country. That was what all of us tuned in for
to watch two people that are going to run
quote unquote run our country debate about gay marriage.
Like are y'all fucking crazy?
Two people that I'll never meet like
that's what we're here to debate about. You'll never see your life. I've never seen
any presidential figure in my life. This is all
Bullshit.
Maul, what's your favorite
conspiracy? Well, not your favorite conspiracy theory,
but outside of what we were just talking about
political-wise, what is a conspiracy theory
that you think is
not conspiracy you think is true?
But most people would say that
something you tap into.
I do believe that
outside of politics.
Yeah, I do believe that aliens are
walk with us daily.
I believe that we get a lot of our
technology
from different life forms.
I think we studied them.
I think we actually have a quote-un-unquote relationship
with other life forms on this planet.
I don't think, I don't see how people don't think that.
In this big-ass universe,
you think that we're the only form of life
in this entire universe.
Like, that just doesn't make sense to me.
So I do believe that aliens are real.
I see more and more now UFO videos pop up
more often now on the Internet
because everybody has a key.
camera now. So naturally there's
opportunity for more video.
Right. But yeah,
I believe that aliens are real. I believe
that people are crazy if they think
they're not real.
But I don't think that it's a
threat to us necessarily. I know a lot of people
think that other life forms and aliens
are a threat. I don't,
I never feel like it's a threat.
I mean, if aliens touch down,
right, what do you think
is this country's first
approach? Everything
I'm talking about.
Touched down. I think they're already here.
Everything I was just talking about as far as like putting a face in front of political stuff,
I tie into what Mall just said and I agree with them.
I think at that same fucking eyes wide shut party table that's really running this shit is aliens are at the table.
For sure.
I think about every time we have a storm.
I don't know if y'all heard that big ass thunder the other night.
That shit woke me the fuck up.
That shit woke me out my sleep.
Yeah.
And then I felt insecure because I saw no one talking about it.
I was like, did anyone hear the wildest thunderstorm I've ever heard my fucking life feeling?
I thought we got bombs.
I thought I dreamt it until I went on Twitter and Nate and Brittany was like,
yo, did anybody hear that thunder?
And I was like, oh my God, it wasn't just me.
I woke up and really thought like some shit was happening on my block.
I didn't think it was thunder.
I thought Jesus was here.
No, I thought there was bombing my block.
Yeah, same.
I feel like those are like, you know, a lot of times, you know, like I said,
meteors crashing to the ocean.
And I think a lot of the times that's just other life forms just coming back.
And that's where they deposit their ships and their eggs and just create a whole colony of life down there.
But I do think that we know that.
I do I think the government knows that.
And I think daily, I think other life forms enter and leave Earth.
Absolutely.
Like I don't see why we do it.
You know what I'm saying?
And why are we so fascinated with going into space?
I was just about an ask you how if y'all would be ever interested in to go into space.
As a kid, I used to think I would, but I don't know now.
Because I feel like, and this is me, I feel like every time we come, we leave the Earth's orbit and come back, I believe that astronaut spaces, I believe that they bring.
Bring back something.
They bring back something.
They bring back whether it's, you know, diseases, bacterias, you know, from other life forms.
That's in space just floating around.
Something new team.
I believe is on those ships.
You know what I mean?
It comes back into the earth.
I've never thought of that shit.
Wow.
Yeah, man, I think about that shit a lot, man.
But it's just, you know, like I said, it's good to think about it because you don't want to become so naive to things where you think that this is the only form of life.
That's a very arrogant.
Yeah.
Very arrogant way to think.
But, you know, I try not to let it overwhelm me and consume my thoughts and where I'm just like I said, not enjoying life and living life.
But I do think that aliens are absolutely rare.
And I don't even like to call them aliens.
Well, what's an alien?
That would be my...
Exactly.
It was a word we were taught.
That'd be my question.
Every time...
Every time people say that.
You said that the other day, Star Trek or something like that.
Like, that's like a real thing where it's like people from other planets.
You call them, you know, the Valkans or whatever you call them.
Like, it's just different names.
Yeah, they have, yeah, they probably have like their own, like, associations.
Absolutely.
It's just easier for us to say aliens or to associate aliens or like those big-headed dark black eyes.
I think aliens just means like foreign.
Like, you're not of this planet.
Like, I'm sure if we, wherever the fuck we go, when we're...
That's why when they say, like, illegal aliens.
We're the aliens.
Oh, absolutely.
We've only been here for so long.
How the fuck do we know that?
Yeah, true.
Because you keep trying to get on Mars,
I'm pretty sure whatever's on Mars is looking like,
what the, who the fuck is that?
What the fuck is it?
Whenever we send those drones out?
Yeah, like.
Again, I'm ignorant and I don't know shit,
and everyone on the internet can tell me I'm wrong.
Just trying to use logic going from dinosaurs
where there were just those type of animals or beings.
Then all of a sudden,
all these other animals, what's an alien?
Where did it come from?
Yeah.
Now all of a sudden, this shit just pops up.
Maybe it came here.
Right.
Maybe Bears was going crazy outside the Milky Way.
And then Mad Bears showed up.
Bears going crazy.
Like, I'm joking, but I'm seriously in the regard
because I don't know how just out of molecules.
And that's why I do believe in a higher power.
As far as like, and maybe it's because I take a lot of shrooms
and that's things that just pop up out of nowhere,
but by nowhere I mean shit.
Yeah, just...
All right, so the whole world got fucking blown out
by one asteroid that killed all the dinosaurs,
yet their bones stayed.
It's just nothing is making...
Like, when you really sit...
Yo, by the way, their bones was like five feet under the ground,
but they all died.
Shit just don't make sense.
And by the way, there's people that...
Never mind.
They still find it to this day.
People that die in car accidents, that the car don't even really blow up like that and are incinerated immediately.
But you're trying to tell me an asteroid came, blew the whole motherfucking world up, and there's mad dinosaur bones chilling.
Oh, that's like my favorite one, but not my favorite.
And now it's a whole new set of animals and us.
Yeah, but that's like the flight in, what is it, Pennsylvania that crashed into the field?
This is the Easter bonus story.
Oh, Flight 93?
Yep, 93.
Fam, have you ever seen pictures of that?
Of course.
A plane did not.
A plane did not.
fam a plane did not crash into that field
all right so i'll put it this way i i am uh and rest in peace
have a connection to uh one of the pilots
that was flying flight 93
so he exists and i know that for a fact
it wasn't like they just had a bunch of random people that didn't exist
but yes i did not see plane remains
bro it was that we could us four right now could go dig this top
that hole in the field.
They just threw some confetti.
Yeah, you're not going to tell me like a plane crashed there, bro.
Not there.
It may have crashed somewhere, but not what they were showing us.
I agree.
I don't believe that.
But again, because I'm not the, as much as I am a conspiracy theorist, I do put in actual
logic to stuff.
I could see if I was in the government, let's show a fake site.
Let's not show where it crashed.
So it very well could have crashed.
And the people very much could have taken over that plane and saved what could have been a terrible disaster in D.C.
But I do also have the logic brain of saying media government together, let's not show the real site of where that shit happened.
I could see that.
But don't tell me that that's the site.
You got to give me a better.
Well, I mean, that's so crazy to think that happens.
But you're a citizen.
So we ask a lot of you.
Crazy to think that was 20 years ago.
Crazy.
It doesn't feel like, and I'm 27, but I just.
still feel like.
We killed the president.
Which are the 9-11 wasn't coming?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But my thing, it's just so many things still around 9-11 that just will never make sense to me.
Like, you found the passports of the hijackers on the street of Manhattan, like, not far from the world.
Oh, that other thing?
Wow.
I can't.
That whole shit was incinerated.
Like, come on.
A passport?
But here's the thing.
That didn't burn up?
Like, come on, man.
I also
outside, again, of being a conspiracy theorist,
I also think they'll purposely lie
in the media because they know we're stupid and impressionable.
And that'll just make us feel better,
even if it's not a conspiracy.
I do, of course, think 9-11 was a conspiracy.
But, like, how much is that effect?
Did some anchor on CNN say that?
Like, do we really know where that came from?
Did it just manns in them tell them that?
Well, yeah.
Because that anyone with the brain...
When we get our information from then,
that's a whole different.
Anyone with a brain knows that no one found the hijackers passport on the side of a Manhattan Street.
Yeah, that was just always like, I don't understand how you could find a passport and that fucking fire and blazing for days it was burning down there.
And that little booklet survived?
Nah, fam, you can't tell me that.
I'm a little, I'm not the smartest man in the world, but you can't tell me no shit like that.
I'm sorry.
Listen, they blatantly told us that it was Osama and the Taliban all specific.
with Afghanistan.
And then was like...
Osama made it clear.
He had nothing to do with that.
And then was like, yo, we about to smoke Iraq.
And everyone was like...
What Iraq did?
Like, yo, they know them.
Yeah.
They tried to put it on...
I remember Osama putting out a video saying...
Just like how blatantly much they lied in that was...
It's a lot of shit, man.
I was a kid and was like, huh?
You go back and just like just look at videos of that whole time.
and just listen to, you know, accounts of what happened and what people saw.
And then you look at, you know, all the documentaries.
And you take from it to piece together what you will.
But, you know, one thing you can't tell me is that it makes sense.
Like, it just is, no, it doesn't.
A lot of that shit doesn't make sense.
Well, I think a lot of, I'm not going to compare them as people because all the Irish Catholics would kill me.
And I don't mean to compare them, but I compare them as far as blame and having to kill them.
not much difference between Osama and JFK in that regard.
Like, all right, you're not being part of the plan or you've been compromised to the fact that we got to take you out in what we're trying to do.
We got to either place blame or you're just not going with what we're doing right now.
So we're going to use you so we can't use you anymore.
Ed and what's some of your conspiracies or one of your conspiracies that you find yourself thinking about from time to time?
I think the one is the whole matrix complex, which is the whole simulation thing.
But into the extent that of like, yeah, I feel like sometimes, yeah, shit isn't real or things happen when things happen quote unquote for a reason.
But also in just kind of like things are selected for like have you ever seen Truman Show?
Some Truman Show type shit, you know.
Even just from the way, now we're being more aware.
of it. Let's say
when you say some shit and then it just pops up on your
phone out of nowhere, you know, but it's
also just kind of like, now
they just know how to tap into your everyday life
so well. They study you. Right.
Your day-to-day habits. Right. They study
you so well that they know exactly
how to just get you
even by like a choice
of color or something. Yeah. Like that freaks
me the fuck out.
Can you Google the writer of the Matrix
real quick? Because I share
I share very similar thoughts with Edin
in that regard
of the Matrix world.
The original writer of the Matrix, the Wasowski's?
Yes.
Yeah.
Can you go through their career?
Let's see.
Yeah, you can tell Rory
has been down this rabbit.
Not some wit.
This is just my own personal.
I just be looking at shit.
I get it.
I don't know.
The rich.
Steven Spielberg,
what was his first movie?
Or what was his first big movie?
color purple
I'm sorry
I'm sorry I'm sorry
did you say Stephen Spielberg
do the color purple
yeah I think he did
I'm not mistaken
I need a second
because either mall is like so wrong
and I'm appalled at him being that wrong
or I never knew Stephen Spielberg
did the color purple
I think he did bro
he's right she's right he's right
you get the fuck out of here
he did the color purple
I don't know that either
y'all be thinking hey look see y'all
I don't think of it either.
Wait, what?
Yeah.
174, not that 19774, but yeah.
Yeah, the color purple.
Stephen Spielberg directed the color purple.
You didn't know that?
Hold on.
Now, just keep the shit, keep the shit raw, keep the shit moving.
Yeah, man.
That's a real talk.
Spielberg did the color purple.
Wait.
He did E.T. and then did the color purple?
Yeah.
Yes, man's a genius.
The range.
Look at the range.
I have.
fucking tears about.
See, I thought y'all was ready
to kill me in here.
I went to film school.
I didn't know that shit.
That's where I was at.
Of like, either that's the craziest thing
I've ever heard or I just had no idea.
Yeah.
Stephen Spielberg did the color purple.
You know, Fonte from Little Brother
is a child in the color purple?
No way.
Swear to God.
This is the matrix.
Like, this is a simulation.
That's a real.
That is, but no way.
Swear to God.
That's crazy as fuck.
That is the most random shit I've ever
fucking heard.
Oh, they're,
They used to work, so sorry, and then backtracking real quick.
So the people who worked from Rangers used to work in radio silence.
Oh, no, the filmmakers have been in radio silence.
La, la, la, la.
Don't ever say la la, la, a podcast.
Because I'm curious to.
Oh, I have a point that I'm getting to.
I just wanted you to tell me what they did with their careers after the Matrix.
Oh, after the Matrix.
The E.T. is probably Steven Spielberg's first.
Biggest one?
Big movie.
I would guess maybe.
Okay.
So what I'm saying more or less is, and hold on, let me pull it up because Ed is not
pulling up what I need to see and we can mark some of this.
No, I want all of this in here because because what the fuck.
I really did not know that he did the color.
Yeah, real shit.
That's a fact.
Like the Danny Glover one?
Yes.
Yes.
The Oprah Winfrey one, the Whoopi Goldberg.
The color purple.
It's only one color purple.
Not the revamp.
No, the color purple.
Yes, the color purple.
Not the revamp with Kiki Palmer.
No.
The color purple.
I'm fucking screaming.
Steven Spielberg did that.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
One of the biggest movies at 80s.
All right.
So what I'm saying is Matrix was.
And I'm not comparing the writers or anything like that.
Even to Steven Spielberg, I know it's a director and not a full writer in that regard.
But if you go through what the Matrix was, probably one of the biggest movies of existence.
Ever.
Probably.
Why have they never done a single thing again?
Oh, like outside of the Matrix?
It's cute when Steven Spielberg does.
Jurassic Park,
E.T.
All this other shit.
They shut them
motherfuckers up quick.
They'd never got a gig again.
Oh yeah. Most of their shit is...
They never got a gig again.
Maybe they're aliens.
Or we're in the Matrix.
Oh, you think it's just too accurate.
Or finally they unplugged themselves.
It was like, oh shit.
There's pills over here.
There's pills.
What the fuck?
And the powers that B-Sick,
get these two fucking amazing writers,
the fuck out of here. They know too much. Like, come
on. We know one hit wonders, but the genius
of that movie, great movie. And why
I use Steven Spielberg as an example is because
Steven Spielberg is a genius. He's more
of a director than a writer, but you
don't just make E.T.
And then it's done for you. Like,
that comes from a place. There's
geniuses that aren't one hit wonders.
That movie was not a one hit wonder
type of movie. You are a
different type of
intelligent, a different type of
psychopath in a good way.
why did they never
well I mean wait did they not work
oh so they did the Matrix
trilogy that was like really the only franchise
was it a Matrix 3
yeah and then they made a new one recently
yeah because motherfuckers was on the grassy no
and was like shut the fuck up
and when we want you to do the trilogy
we'll monitor it
you see the trilogy didn't do shit
yeah
that's interesting
they watered that down
that's interesting
they threw some water on that Ethernet
but it's funny because they also did
VFair Vendetta
you know,
movies that are about
like revolution
yeah.
V-Frenedddas
I didn't know they did that
so I take a lot of
what I just said back
because Vendetta is fucking classic
but also
that type of brain
yeah
who played V
who played V?
Who was under the mask?
Hold on
also with that
this reminds me
Hugo Weaving
who
I don't know
he's literally
Mr. Smith
like from the Matrix
oh yeah
that guy played
V plays V
oh wow
didn't know he was that tall
V looked
strapping
there's Apple boxes
you know
that being said
with the Matrix
he was walking with guns and shit
he wasn't just on an Apple box
fuck it was spraying shit off
he's on hoverboard
word
fucking
like VR
I have one of those
VR headsets
the fact that we're going
into that shit like that.
Oh, you think we're going into it?
Oh, yeah.
You think you just didn't put another Inception layer to your dream.
And I was going to say Inception is like one of my other favorite movies because that
shit sounds more not realistic, but I feel like that going into a dream sounds like just the best way of just kind of going to psychology and shit like that.
Manipulating someone's mindset in just like.
What was the other movie that was kind of like Inception with, I hate calling him Denzel Washington's son.
I want to keep forgetting his real name now.
Oh, I know, I went seen that, me and my boyfriend went seen that during the quarantine.
That was like the first movie I saw back in theaters.
Tenet?
Tenet.
Yeah, yeah.
That was a really good movie.
That was a good movie.
I was a good movie.
I was Googling trying to like.
What's his name again, please?
I don't want to keep saying Denzo Washington.
John Washington?
We can go.
We ain't got a guess.
Let's see.
Let's see.
John David Washington.
Yeah, John David Washington.
And I also hate shouting out a way lesser white actor.
Chet Hanks kind of smoked
the last Atlanta episode
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Let's get back to what you told about.
Let him get it off.
Chet Hanks.
You know that's his brother in the Caribbean,
so he got a...
And they stole one of my other viral tweets
for that entire episode.
I had an entire sketch wrote about that.
I was really mad when I watched that.
Damn.
Really?
About in Atlanta?
No, it was about...
And I do want to get back to our conversation.
A while ago.
I was working.
in Tribeca in 2013 and I would tweet, it was like one of my favorite things to tweet about
because I'd be in Tribeca and I'd walk from the World Trade Center path all the way up to Canal
Street. And I would walk up Hudson and I would just constantly see all these just white babies
only with their West Indian nanny. And I would just always on Twitter constantly just come up with
all these jokes of how these young white babies are going to grow up because their parents aren't
really in their lives because they're working constantly.
With the nannies all there. And their nanny. So the entire episode is based around that.
And Chet happens to be one of the white babies that's grown up. And he uses his, his ex,
oh, that's really good. It's so funny. And listen, I'm calling them biters. I know for a fact
they never saw any of my tweets. I'm well aware. Yeah. Well aware of that. They did the episode.
Or maybe they did. Or maybe they did. I don't know. Those tweets did very well.
That's a conspiracy that I have too. There are people that sit on the internet.
Just look for ideas of people that are tweeting.
People sitting comedy, the back of comedy clubs.
Clubhouse was the number one.
I think we all figured that out earlier.
Like, well, this is just a case study.
And they're trying to.
Yeah.
They're listening to ideas and things like that.
Like, we knew what that was about.
But yeah, that last one is great.
We were saying before.
VR.
Yeah, it's just inception.
Yeah.
I mean, people want to build their own worlds.
When we started doing this NFT shit and then NFT were starting to be used in VR.
Like, for example,
you get like an N of T of your ones,
you could wear those ones in your VR world.
People have gotten married in VR before.
It's just so weird because I love pussy so much.
Yeah, like real pussy outside in the real world,
not like in the headset.
Did you guys ever see?
I don't like headset pussy.
Because I don't want headset pussy.
I didn't really care for Jordan's how he moved in those.
Don't get me pussy in the metaverse.
Give me pussy right here.
Because that's why I bought ones.
Yeah.
I don't want pussy in the metaverse.
Give me pussy on
I looked eye in real life
Yeah like I don't
I just don't
See that type of shit to me
Is where it's like
Distraction
Yeah
Did you guys ever see
The Black Mirror
Episode of course
Striking Vipers
I've seen pretty much
Every Black Mirror
So tell me which I'm
The one where
While I look at a Black Mirror
The new
Yeah this is the black
No that's why it's the most
Genius title ever
It's a fucking Black Mirror
Yeah
Damn
Yeah it's what Black Mirror
I didn't know that
I didn't know that
Ed and just figuring
I didn't realize that.
Yeah, it's okay.
When the two guys were best friends and they were like meeting up on the like the video game to like, like the video game like took them inside and they were like it was like a fighting game or whatever like almost like street fighter.
But then like they were able to like make love in the video game.
Oh.
That must have been season five.
Is it season three or four?
Like I don't.
Jumped off right before that happened.
It's the first episode of the fifth season.
Yes.
That sounds hard.
It has Anthony McKee in it and
Yaya Abdul Matine
Wait, Papa Doc?
Yeah.
Because he's in a couple of them.
He's a reoccurring character in Black Mirror.
Yeah, he was cheating on his wife
with his best friend in the video game.
So was the dude from Staircase.
They were having sex in the video game.
Like you could feel
it was like virtual reality,
but like with feeling.
It's just a lot.
So I'm going to say it.
But you know what?
So that being said with the feeling,
you know there are haptic,
which is touch.
There are haptic things you could put on for VR.
So if you play like a game with guns and shit,
you could have like a haptic vest.
And if you get shot in the chest, you feel that.
Really?
Yeah.
Like, I don't want to judge people.
I just don't care that much.
People are really into their immersive life.
I mean, I've done a lot of research, obviously.
Yeah, I don't.
That VR shit is cool, but I just,
I see where they're trying to go with that shit, man.
Yeah.
Just like, y'all trying to create a whole.
too.
Eddn's right.
We're part of the problem, too.
Don't act like I don't realize that we are part of,
we're a very small part,
but we are a part of this entire VR world
that's coming together.
Somebody definitely at DM me one time
about the opportunity of doing a podcast
in the Metaverse.
Yeah.
Like a live show.
I've gotten a couple of those
from like real offers
from people that actually do that shit.
Yeah, not like a fan.
No, I'm not scared.
I know, I'm well aware of it.
I just don't understand it yet.
I don't know like what that is yet.
Like that's all it is.
I'm not scared of it.
You scared to get trapped?
No, I'm just like me.
You just take it off.
Oh my God.
Imagine doing live shows over and over again in the fucking metaverse and you can't escape.
Oof.
Who says that's not what's happening right now.
That's my thing.
The world is back open.
We can do shows right here.
Like I don't need to you to put on a headset in your home and watch me and Rory.
I can see a world though.
There's people that are still stuck in that quarantine life right now.
Oh, for sure.
Wait, you thought quarantine was by accident?
Oh, no, no.
Oh, you believe the bat theory.
Of course.
I mean, like, stuck now.
Some people are still stuck in the quarantine.
Like, they really still quarantine.
They really won't.
No, I'm saying what did you think the purpose of quarantine was?
Oh, so you think that that was the purpose of quarantine mainly.
Yeah, let's make it as comfortable as possible for everyone to sit in their house so we can just feed them every fucking thing we possibly need to feed them.
And they can do every, they don't even need to go to the grocery store.
Oh, yeah.
Oof.
Let's
scary.
Let's get rid of
the older generation
that no one gave a fuck about
to begin with.
I know it sucks to say.
I'm not saying people,
y'all don't care about your grandparents.
Personally,
I'm saying let's go after,
let's attack so fucked up.
Let's attack the,
listen,
and this is coming from somebody
who loves their grandparents
and both my grandparents
died during COVID-19.
So this is coming from a place
of somebody that fully empathetic
with that entire thing.
Couldn't even do a funeral for my grandfather.
My grandmother's funeral sucked
because it was like five of us could go.
It was terrible.
So I don't think I don't play with COVID.
That shit is for real.
But don't think that they didn't attack a specific
group of people
that you were already kind of ready
that it was coming at some point.
Not to say younger people didn't die too.
I know with these things
when we talk about things that affect the whole world.
Now all of a sudden I have to focus on one person in their experience.
But, yeah, they focused on a group of people to put us all in the fucking house
and make sure our lives could exist while we sit in this fucking chair.
Now I put on fucking goggles.
Now I'm on my fucking computer.
I work from home.
I don't do nothing else.
Now, I think buying real estate's going to happen now?
Like the amount of shit that they have put us in with quarantine that we think made our lives easier
Because there's plenty of shit now that I'm happy with quarantine.
I'm like, yo, thank God I don't got to leave.
Drizzly.
Yeah, I think quarantine.
I love it.
Quarantine was a reset for me.
I think it was a reset.
It hit the reset button.
But it made you also feel like you can do a lot of stuff.
Especially the younger people.
Like we lived life outside for a while.
So we couldn't wait to get out.
So I don't think I don't think there's a large group that wants to go outside, but we're expendable, dog.
I'm turning 32 tomorrow.
I'm young, but I am pretty expendable at 32 years old.
Who knows life expectancy to begin with, but I'm expendable.
These kids at 15 to 20 that spent the last three years in quarantine, they are living their lives inside.
They are not leaving.
You and I can't wait to be like, all right, finally I can be around people.
They're not thinking about us.
Yeah, let everyone outside run amuck, have a blast.
No, these young kids now, they...
The hybrids, I call them the hybrids.
The shit, their brains are still developing
and their brains developed inside.
And you gave them every tool of convenience to stay inside.
Even before that.
What the fuck am I leaving for?
Before COVID, those kids, they fucking hated going outside anyway.
All of these kids these days are socially awkward
because the only way they talk to people
is on the fucking internet.
And on top of that,
Not just kids, though.
It's a lot of adults that are socially awkward.
Yeah, but it's because they were going to be corns regardless.
A lot of the majority of these kids grew up with the Internet.
So they grew up on Facebook and TikTok and Instagram.
And all they know how to interact with people is online.
I see so much shit online where people are like, it's just, it's fucking crazy to me to shit that these teenage kids are doing.
It's basically it's teaching everybody how to, when we want everybody to act on one chord, like everybody act this way.
Like that's what a lot of, you know, everything goes viral in TikTok when it's the same dance.
Everybody wear this.
Everybody act like this.
Everybody dance like this.
Everybody listens to this music.
All that shit is a form of programming that they try to hide under entertainment.
And what's the illist marketing they're doing right now with TikTok and even people from my generation and your generation of saying with these young kids that we've,
respect. Oh damn, you could become a billionaire or a millionaire from your basement.
Right. And we pumping that as some positive, amazing shit. That's the point.
Yeah. That's what they wanted us to say. There's nothing good about that. I promise you there's
nothing good about that. Is money great? Yeah. Come on. I'm a realist. Is it ill that you just,
that you 16 and made a million dollars from your home? But if I'm a 16 year old and I can make
a million dollars from my home, I'm not believing. But that's nothing. But now I could get fed
every type of commerce bullshit
in my own fucking home
well not my own
a home y'all own
that I pay for
and I'm here
hold on I'm hungry let me sip some juice
for the metaverse
can I just sip and juice in the metaphors
well in the metaverse you don't have to be
vegan you can eat whatever you want
and it won't fuck your stomach up
I mean he's still got to eat
see look
my headset will nourish me
I'm just laughing y'all think we landed on the moon
But that's another conversation.
This has been an amazing conspiracy podcast.
I wanted you guys to do this because all of you guys have great, not conspiracies,
but theories on how this world is working.
And you did a good job presenting them.
I got to take shrooms of Rory.
None of this comes with shrooms.
No, I know about it.
Everything with shrooms is my personal experience.
Oh, God.
I still got to take shrooms with them.
I will say, I think what I've been good at with my conspiracy theories,
and a lot of that comes to my dad, because my dad is one of those people in that regard.
where his own theories become real,
which is not a good,
it's a toxic way of thinking.
I've been good at still keeping my ignorance
is bliss shit for me to enjoy the world.
Of course.
Because the more you know,
the more you're going to be like,
fuck this.
I'm going to be depressed.
I'm going to hate everything.
I'm good at that balance at least.
Like, I'll laugh at these conspiracies.
Like, all right, let me just go out to the metal world
and get some pussy.
The metal world.
Not the real.
Because I think this is the MetaWorld, and I think the ones that we're talking about now is...
Does Meta Pussy get wet?
I hope so.
Don't look at me as to that.
I don't fucking know.
We're in the Matrix now.
Matrix Pussy gets wet.
MetaWorld is...
It's not even that it's wet.
It's that you feel like it's wet.
It's all in your fucking brain, you know?
So it's like you put the headset on and it's like they send somebody in your crib to like...
I've never done it.
Throw water on you and shit?
When I say the Metaverse, I think we're in the Metaverse right now.
I think you...
I think that you just felt...
Nah, I felt you, son.
Don't touch me again.
I'm just saying.
I just think this is, I think this is a Matrix, too.
My conspiracy theory, and then we're going to end this,
I really think that Mark Zucker,
I'm one of those weird people that think that Mark Zuckerberg is a reptile.
Oh, yeah, that whole heart, I went to Harvard story is hysterical.
You know, Mark Zuckerberg started in my dorm room.
I think, I think Mark Zuckerberg is a reptile, pretending to be human.
I don't know about Mark, but I lean towards when people say they think Elon is,
is an alien.
They think they think the name Elon is like a planet he's from.
It's the whole thing where
Like, I'm telling you
It was like, I laugh at a lot of this shit
Because y'all know I'm just stupid
I'm silly but like I was like
I'm laughing but this shit sound believable
Hey Mal do you know what Elon Musk's kid is
His name?
No
One of his kid's name is basically just a bunch of symbols
I thought that was a Twitter joke
That's real?
No, I think that's a real thing
Elon's an alien XAEA dash X
I don't even say that shit out loud
Because I think that's him talking
I think that's him talking to his planet.
I'm saying.
Words.
All full circle.
Their new God child has arrived.
Language is spells.
Yes, there goes spells.
You're spelling.
Or he just named him after a PlayStation controller.
Oh, sorry, Musk.
That's his last name.
Elon Musk, yeah.
No, I mean, like, what?
Can you type in Musk in what country Musk is from?
Well, Musk is just when somebody stinks.
He smells.
Yeah.
Somebody ain't washed their ass.
Um, blah, la, la.
All I'm seeing is,
Musk is older.
Oh, where does the word
Musk come from? Oh, it's Persian.
And Elon Musk is not Persian.
The name originates
from the late Greek
Muscos from Persian Musch
similar to Sanskrit
Musca, testicle.
Elon has a lot of balls.
Yeah, and he's fucking us all.
Yeah.
That was great.
There you go.
That was great.
Oh, man.
Listen to the Black Star album
And that's the last thing I'm cool.
I'm excited to hear that.
It's out now.
Is it?
Is it?
Came out today.
May 3rd.
We're recording this May 3rd.
Yes.
I didn't hear it yet, but I know Mad Lab produced all of it.
Yeah, you have to, you can't.
It's not on DSPs.
No.
And I, listen, that's why I fuck with most, man.
Like, there's a lot of people, a lot of artists that I do respect their message.
And I do love the awareness they're bringing as far as me.
music industry and that you could relate to everything.
Same shit we talked about conspiracy-wise.
Not just music industry, but that's a good
representation of how things work.
Most does not do press.
He did Quali's podcast and
broke down everything he feels about the music industry
and then back that shit up.
It's plenty of artists and I'm not shitting on them
because listen, I'm about to put an album out and my shit going to be on all
DSPs. Who am I to talk?
I'm not going to be a hypocrite in that regard.
I'm putting my shit on DSB, Sue.
It's the best way to get your music
out there promotional lot.
Can we wait?
Mo said all that shit.
I said, bro, you don't have to pay for this platform that ain't a DSP.
I'm not getting half a penny off the work I do.
That's slavery.
Pay for this.
I like that.
Yeah.
That shit is not like a one week.
It'll be on this.
Right.
And then, nah, do you either do this or don't.
You either listen to Black Star album or you don't.
Sorry.
I like that.
I do too.
And now that's great coming from somebody like Mo's deaf because he's, you know,
He's one of those people that, you know, his, he's very forward thinking.
He's, he's one of those minds that's just, he's a genius.
And I don't use that word loosely.
Most deaf is a genius in my eyes.
And I do like the fact that in this climate that he is taking a stance like that with
his art.
And it's Luminary, which is, I want to say a small company.
I mean, they do like Chappelle's podcast.
Like, Luminary is a, that's also a misconception where you can do good business with big
companies.
It doesn't have to just be, you can find good part.
And you can do bad business for small companies too.
Exactly.
Don't get that lost.
Yeah.
So I love what they're doing on that.
And I will say, of course I was excited for most because most is one of my favorite rappers.
Somebody pissed Kwali off.
He was on that getting his shit off.
I don't know.
I don't know if it was Jaguar.
I don't know if it was all y'all...
Jaguar.
I don't know if it was...
I'm sorry, that was a bad joke, Kwali, because I know you take everything personally and you don't like me.
you was fucking rapping on that shit.
I gotta hear it.
I definitely got to check it out.
And I love Kwali's solo shit
towards the middle to end
of his solo career in regards.
I just saw him shift into
the pod space
and into media space
and social media space,
which I love.
I actually don't mind Kuali
in that space at all.
I think he's,
I love his podcast.
I think he has great conversations.
But I did think it did compromise
his music.
And when I saw it
How? How do you think of compromising music?
I just think his focus
Went elsewhere
I think a lot of the great messages
That he had even just on like some life shit growing up
To now be a full fucking adult
Family Man type shit
Was put into the podcast
That's why I loved Kwali's podcast so much
And the conversations he would have and relate to people
I think Quali was really good at that
And I think he kind of lost that
and some of his music towards the end
because I was a huge, huge solo quality fan too.
He was making sure that most was not
ever going to outshine him on that album.
And it's not a preachy album at all
the way I feel like people in 2022
would try to be like, oh, black star, they're about to preach?
No. It's some real life grown man.
I've been through a lot of shit, not just music industry shit,
not just family shit, not just racism shit, period.
Life.
Just life shit.
and Quali is talking on that shit.
Most is most, and we know that.
And I don't want to take away that Quali is not most
because I don't want to compare them,
but Quali is rap.
I've not heard someone rap like that in quite some time.
And not on some lyrical, miracle bullshit.
Like, Quali is just rapping.
Like, every bar is fucking relatable.
You gotta check it out, man.
I'm just like the fact that they're back
and, you know, definitely good to see most deaf back.
And we know how he gets in his bag.
He did bring it back too.
He definitely is Black Star most.
Black Star Yassin.
He rapping on that shit.
Got to check it out on Luminary.
Luminary.
Shout out to Yassine.
And did Hop?
Was Hop involved in this?
I think he was.
I got to call him and ask him.
Yeah, I don't want to say he was.
I feel like I've had some conversations with him in the early phases of this.
Yeah, I think he was.
He definitely was the first one to tell me about the album though.
Yeah.
Like I heard about it from Hop.
It's definitely the first one to put me, put it on the radar from me.
Obviously, it works with Madlib closely, so I don't know if it was that connection.
I got to check it out.
That's just always good to have that type of hip hop in my ears.
You know, I'll try to listen to a little bit of everything, but that type of hip hop is so unique and so, you know, dope and refreshing to hearing these days.
So shout out to Black Star.
Yes, sir.
With that said, I think I think we're good.
You're wrapping up.
Hi.
You miss me giving Quali his flowers.
And I don't think Quali likes me.
So I just want to...
It's okay.
You can still give flowers to me, but I don't know.
I don't think MERS likes me.
It's so many rappers I grew up on in high school that, like, I love so much that I would just say terrible things about me.
And I've said nothing but good things about them.
Well, Quali, well, they hate...
I get it.
No, listen, white devil shit.
I totally understand.
Yeah, white BDI devil.
That's what I mean.
No, I totally, totally get...
I totally get that.
But here's the thing.
if they would have said like, yo, fuck that white devil.
I would have been like, yeah, I get it.
You get it.
But it'd be like, they'd be saying personal shit about it.
I'm like, I have nothing but love for y'all.
Yo, is Rory, an alien?
Rory's not an alien.
Prove it.
Rory has consumed too much.
White people might be aliens.
I might be a descendant of aliens because the climate of the world where humans are supposed to exist,
we're not very good with.
Yeah, the sun's scared.
Because for the most part, people were by the equator for the most part.
I thought me getting close to the equator I can't
I can't breathe yeah
so yeah white people might be aliens
yeah yeah the elements of this earth
are definitely not in your favor
dog our pigment
you have to look at it this way and I know
they're consider this white guilt
no I'm talking about the existence of human beings
white guilt
the number one thing that keeps us alive is
is water and sunlight
if those two things went away
our pigment can't handle
there was no banana boat in the beginning of existence.
I'm sorry, that's really funny.
Like, our pigment is not built for our world.
For the sun, yeah.
But I think, I don't know, because it gets really cold and y'all like,
y'all wear shorts and it's cold out.
Y'all can take that shit.
But civilization never started.
And again, a scientist could tell me,
well, that's how molecules are formed in hot weather
and then they migrate and adapt.
They could be right.
I don't fucking know.
Again, everything in this podcast, I don't know.
I'm just doing shit.
Well, I think that white people come from the caucus.
mountains where it was frigid temperatures
and you probably were outside
scratching ass. Yeah, with nothing but a fucking
a wolf laying on top
of you meeting. But the same jokes we were making
whatever episode that was of like
I don't know what I'm talking about. Who was the first person
to realize
that we can't breathe underwater? Like how many
white people did it take
in the Caucasus mountains
to kill a fucking boar to make a
coat? Yeah. Like how long could they have
survived as a baby?
A little Neanderthal.
in the snow to then figure out that, oh, we could kill animals and put them over us to stay warm or we could make fire.
We should actually.
You can only exist in warm weather.
Humans can only exist at that time in warm weather.
Quali and Yassina have those answers for you.
Oh, listen.
I would love this.
Like, we should actually go on Quali's podcast.
Listen, bro.
I want to ask why do you hate this white, white beady-devil?
I don't think Kwali hates me.
He's said stuff in the past, which he probably wouldn't even remember.
because I've said stuff in the past about people
that they bring up to me and I'm like
what are you talking about?
And then they'll pull it up and be like
I don't even remember that bro, my bad.
I don't know where I was like like honestly
straight up humbly apologize
like that was my bad
I didn't even realize I said that.
Yeah.
My bitch was fucking on a ball player
at the time I was going through something.
What?
Okay.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Sounds like a personal experience.
I would love to go on quality of shit.
Yeah, we should.
Happy birthday again, Rory.
Thanks, man.
Happy birthday to my guy, Rory Farrell.
Love you, kid.
Yeah, man.
So we talk some conspiracy shit today.
Y'all definitely have me not wanting to watch anything or even connect to the internet anymore.
Thank you very much.
I'm going to disconnect everything when I get home and live like a fucking Amish slave.
I'm not going to touch the outlets, the sockets, nothing when I get in the house.
You going to put tape over yet?
Yeah, yeah.
It's over.
I'm not touching that shit.
Zuckerberg puts tape over his cameras.
So I think we should all do the same when he's not using them.
did that one time when I was having sex with a girl and she found out anyway.
But anyway, that's for another time.
This has been another episode of New Rory and Mall.
I'm that nigga.
He's just ginger.
Y'all be safe.
We'll talk to y'all soon.
In my head.
Peace.
Ginger spice.
Ginger spice should be your stripper name.
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