New Rory & MAL - Episode 67 | "A Masterpiece"

Episode Date: May 17, 2022

Rory, Mal, Demaris & Eddin are here with another audio adventure. The guys do their weekend recap, and send their prayers and condolences to their fellow New Yorkers in the wake of the Buffalo hat...e crime tragedy. They touch on the Billboard Music Awards, and then get to it- an honest Kendrick album review. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:32 ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to another episode of the new Rory Mall. I am all. I'm DeMaris. And we are back after a weekend of experiences and life and bills. and headaches and trauma and depression and life.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Yeah, life. We learned another fun fact. So I think there's three episodes in a row. We found out Steven Spielberg directed color purple. We found out Mall is indeed Puerto Rican. No idea. Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:02:19 And we found out today that Mall's godfather is Earl the Pearl. You just be keeping shit from us, bro. You don't know that? No. How the fuck would we know that? I didn't go to your christening? No, I don't know. I feel like I told you that years ago, though.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I feel like we was having a conversation about basketball or something. I don't know. Well, how is James doing? James. Isn't his real name like James Monroe? Yo, that is, we got to, can we talk about that? Because that's the real thing, like Bill's being William. It's like, somebody says William.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Like, who the fuck are y'all talking about? Oh, no, Bill. Yeah. That's fucking Bill. That's not William, man. What are you? Like, who comes up with that? But he's great.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I haven't spoken to him in a while. I said I got to go see him and pull up on him. but he's doing good, though. That's, I mean, we give you so much shit for Rockefell. I didn't know you just had the Earl the Pearl card. Yeah. Can you guys explain who that is for our younger listeners? Oh, one of the greatest guards of all time, NBA history,
Starting point is 00:03:17 one of the greatest collegiate players. I just sound like, no, but it's true. One of the greatest collegiate players, one of the greatest guards in NBA, top 50, well, top 75 now, but top 50 player. Jesus Shadowsworth is actually named after him. Yeah. Thank you. From Maryland.
Starting point is 00:03:35 B. Moore. Well, from Philadelphia. But he played for the Baltimore Bullets. Okay. The Baltimore Bullets. This is way back. Damn, Baltimore Bullets. I'm not that old.
Starting point is 00:03:46 No, I'm not that old. I mean, obviously, I'm not that old. But, yeah. You're like Supersonic's old. Super Sonics? I'm Super Sonics old, yes. That's me. Yeah, I remember a Super Sonics.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm Charlotte Bobcats. I'm Charlotte Bobcats. I'm Charlotte Bobcats. I'm like on the Wizards old. That was disgusting. Michael and the Wizards was disgusting. He made the All-Star game. Of course he did.
Starting point is 00:04:06 He's Michael Jordan. He's the greatest player ever. And then drafted probably the worst number one pick all time. But I'm just saying he was never supposed to wear that wizard's jersey, bro. Like, we was never supposed to see Mike in a wizard's jersey. It's sold a lot, though. It's Mike. Anything is going to sell.
Starting point is 00:04:17 But it's just like, though, he wasn't supposed to be a wizard. A wizard? No. He probably had some gambling debt that they discovered after retirement. Yeah, Mike, you got played another three years and paid us off. In D.C. He had some gambling debt. So how was your weekend, bro?
Starting point is 00:04:32 It was cool. My mom was here for the whole weekend. We started on my guest bed, guest bedroom. It was, yeah, one of those adulting. Okay, that's good, though. That feels good to see the progress and everything coming together. Yeah, I just did the target, Raymore, Flanagan, I can't go to any more these stories. So I'm going to lose my fucking mind.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And on a Saturday and a Sunday. Yeah. And with a middle-aged Irish woman on top of all the chaos that happens at those stores on a Saturday. It was just, it was a lot. It was one of those. And then I had to carry everything. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Moms just picked things out, throwing the cart. And I'm like, who's carrying us? And who's paying for it? You. You? Yeah, it was a chill weekend for me, man. Saw some friends, saw some family. You know, just real chill laid back.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I wasn't going to go out of town. But I was like, you know, let me stay home. Those are necessary. Just getting the crib together, things like that, do things. Well, I got time in New York to just, you know, enjoy myself. I know my mother is getting older, which that's always a weird feeling when you realize your parents are getting older. But what really had it said in this weekend is my mom is starting to do what like children do. Like when we'll just drive past something, she'll just say it out loud.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Like there's no context to, like we'll just say, Wendy's. Yeah. And she'll just do that. It's been there for 30 years. That one has been there. I'm like, oh gosh, she's getting old. Because she's just yelling out, shit we're passing.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And I'm like, all right. Yeah, my mom is, my mom is, she's, she's been at that point for a while. Like, it's, but it's, it's funny, but it's like, it's a life.
Starting point is 00:06:10 It's like, now I have to take care of my mom. Like, this is crazy. Yeah. It was an interesting, interesting weekend. IKEA is insane from my 32-year-old knees.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Because you can't really, once you're in the maze, you can't get out. Yeah. You have to buy something in order to get out. That's part of, for sure. They don't let you out the door
Starting point is 00:06:28 unless you buy something. And then that with my patience and the amount of families that were in there with children who look at IKEA as a playground, which I get, I'm 32 and kind of do. Yeah. It just, and my mother can only walk so fast. I just, I'm just happy to be with everyone today. Your mom at that age where she yells to random kids, be careful. Yo, for sure. She's done that all the time, though.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I'm like, mom, this is not your child. Leave that kid alone. Be careful. Now this, her father is fucking six, five, 300 pounds. Now look who I got to have a conversation with. That was always my mother. My mother was, hey, hey, get off of that. Get off of that.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Get down. Sit down. Like, just like that. It takes a village is what they say, right? It takes a village to raise. I'm that same way too now. Like, as I grow up, I realize, like, when I see kids doing shit, they got no business, I don't just let get down now.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah, the now is where it's letting you know that you are approaching the danger zone. The danger zone. Yeah, the danger zone. Next is going to become physical after the now. So my mother picked coral as the color for my guest bedroom, right? I'm so excited. Which I'm not mad at. I think with the gray and everything, the coral look nice.
Starting point is 00:07:34 So I'm like, yeah, mom, I'm with coral. Let's just not go too pinkish with the coral. Yeah. Because, you know. How far off is it, I'm all the sweater. Far. It's more like that light than anything.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Oh, okay. And of course, when I walk into Target, I didn't know Target is now sponsored by the color coral. The entire betting department at Target now is coral. That's their spring palette. So it wasn't like I could just run in and grab the first comforter that was there. We went through every last sheet, every last combination.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I just, I think that's probably why I'm not built for marriage. Because I could never imagine having to do that every day. Well, when you're married, I think that they automatically do that. Once they have their name and access to the credit card and the account, you never see women again shop. That's true. You just see shit at the door. Like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Okay. And who paid for this? Amazon just keeps ringing. Word. Yeah, it's like, yo, what is this now? What room does this go to? You got Amazon on retainer. Yeah, it's like what is this shit?
Starting point is 00:08:33 But I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. It was a fun bonding time with me and my mom. It's cool to work on something together. I love that. I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. It's just starting to realize shit as your parents get older. And you have to like, you have to prepare yourself mentally. Like, you have to become very patient.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You have to become very understanding. You have to become very like, you know, you have to seem engaged in the conversation. Yeah, my mom, this is great. This color would go great with that. I don't care. Let's get the fuck out of. Get the shit and let's go. But you have to seem invested and engaged with your mom
Starting point is 00:09:04 because, again, those are the moments that, you know, you'll cherish. And I love now that both my parents were always mad when I would be on my phone. Now they're both kind of like leaning more into technology now. Like my dad has an iPad and shit. They both have iPhones. Yeah. So all those years my mother was yelling at me because I wasn't engaged with whatever our conversation was because I was on my phone.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I now get my get back. So the entire time we were in Target. and she would like look at her phone because now she does the iPhone thing. Like, can you pay attention, please? Get off your phone. You're addicted to that thing. I'm taking away for three hours. Is the font like crazy big?
Starting point is 00:09:39 The text? You can read the text from over there? Good morning is like a whole scroll. The font on my mom's phone is crazy. I'm like, my letters don't have to be that big. Listen, I joke with my dad. I'm like, you couldn't cheat if you wanted to. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:09:55 The whole block can read your phone right now. arms go through that. That's some funny shit. Let's start off by saying prayers to the victims of the Buffalo shooting. Yes, yes. Prayers and condolences to the entire community. Yeah. Our fellow in Buffalo. All of the families affected, our prayers and thoughts are with you all. It's just such a tragic, tragic, something as innocent and, you know, routine as grocery shopping.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And, you know, I thought about my mom a lot in that moment because that's something that my mom does every Sunday. Yeah. You know what I mean? She goes to the grocery store and, you know, pick up a few things. Like, and to know that a lot of these individuals were doing that same thing, going to the store, they had plans to cook, you know, later on and, you know, sit down with their family level. And then something like this, just a random act of terrorism, a random act of hate, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:52 and lives are lost for what? Just because somebody decided they had. hate people so much and today is the day where I'm just going to destroy families forever. It's just such a selfish and horrible thing that people have to deal with when it comes to shit like that.
Starting point is 00:11:09 And something needs to be done immediately with these gun laws. I just don't understand how an 18 year old that's already been diagnosed is mentally ill, has already threatened to shoot up his school, gets an automatic rifle. Yeah. I just don't understand how that... This has to
Starting point is 00:11:25 be... And I do believe that the Supreme Court is supposed to make a decision almost like immediately or soon about gun laws? I would hope so. Because this is something that, you know, I just don't even understand how anybody that is in control of gun laws in this country could see this and not feel like, okay, we have to make sure that this never happens again. We have to do everything that we can to ensure that something like this will never happen again. Like this is, it's, there's nothing else to even protest about, march about. It's like, listen, get these fucking guns out of here, ban them. Whoever is caught with these type of guns, automatic life sentence in prison.
Starting point is 00:12:08 You have to go that harsh. Hell you. With these laws because this is, those are killing, those are war weapons. Like to just walk into a grocery store and just gun people down like that. It's not hunting. It's not collecting. It's a fucking murder weapon. It's not a protection.
Starting point is 00:12:25 It's made to kill in mass quantities. Yes. So it's something that we just, we have to get rid of these. We have to get rid of these guns. We have to get rid of these guns. We have to protect each other more than this. Nobody needs that gun on the streets in these neighborhoods. Like that, that has to be, this has to go away immediately.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Like, they need to make a decision and get these fucking guns out of here because this is not, if this continues, we'll be talking about this again. Yeah. And that's the sad part. Yeah. It's constant. This is just like, enough is enough, man. Like these guns, nobody needs these weapons. Nobody needs these weapons.
Starting point is 00:13:01 So prayers, condolences to the families. I can only imagine, you know, what they're going through to lose a loved one like that. And then, you know, have the world see it. It's like, it's just so unfortunate. And again, you know, just all we can offer is our prayers and just, you know, continue to pray for these families. Because this is something that these images and this, you know, this feeling is going to be with them forever. So. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I made the mistake of. watching the video on accident, just not even knowing, like, you know, just scrolling through my timeline and I clicked it. I didn't know what it was. And that shit completely changed the course of my entire day
Starting point is 00:13:37 in the next couple days. People, please stop sharing that video. I fortunately did not see it, thank God. I saw the beginning of it, only because, again, like DeMaris said, I didn't know what it was. My home boy sent the video. That's how I usually watch these videos.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I don't know what they are. And I just clicked it, and I'm seeing somebody driving and I'm like, you know, what is this? I didn't know what it was. And as soon as, you know, you know, tragically, he kills the first victim, I close that shit.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I'll say, y'all, I can't. What is that? I didn't even know. I thought I was watching, like, somebody playing a video game. Like, I felt like I was watching somebody playing calling do-duty. It looks fake. It looks like there's no way this really is, this is real. It was insane.
Starting point is 00:14:17 You know what I mean? That's just, it's, bro, that's a tragedy, man. That's a tragedy to lose people like that. Like, that is really, really, really sickening and horrible that that happened to these families and these people. But again, man, it's specifically targeted. Yeah, you drove three hours. Wrote a whole manifesto.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Yeah. To go kill poor black people. And was taken without, you know, just taking them of course. Oh, you know, you already know that. You know, and it's just gently put in a car, you know. Yeah, it's unfortunate, man. But. And I still saw on Fox and other outlets.
Starting point is 00:14:55 still trying to find ways to flip it. Like, no, there's no question. He wrote exactly why he did it. Of course. Like, you can't, there's no, this is not one of the situations where we have to guess and piece things together. We know what it is. He said it's on the gun.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It's in, you know, like you said, manifesto things. He had a conversation with people days prior. You know, he's, this is what he meant to do. With screaming racial slurs doing it. This is what he meant to do. Fox News, they had a headline with like a two, three minute video. What constitutes a hate crime? Like, I mean, I think this.
Starting point is 00:15:25 one hits the check this checks the box this covers everything and it was like an actual debate if this was like there's no you know people will debate anything you know but this is come we know what this is cut it out change these gun laws get these guns off the streets ban these fucking weapons and you know like let's just make sure that this families don't have to go do nothing like this again and this is insane it happens everywhere too like before i would feel like it would be you know a lot of major cities are super small towns. It's rural cities, small cities, medium cities, big cities, church, work, grocery store, mall, concert.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Like every last place has been hit with this mass shooting shit and no one thinks maybe something should change. As a white male, Rory in America, how does that, how does seeing something like this make you feel, especially because you're someone that has so many? different friends from different cultures, black, you know, whatever. Like, you're a person that people know is generally, you just love people. But as a white man in America, when you see things like this, how does that make you feel? I can only be empathetic in it because I don't know what that experience is like or what that fear would be like.
Starting point is 00:16:41 So it's really empathy and I guess support is the best way to go about it. also I in situations like this feel like sometimes we should shut up and let the people the victims of what's happening speak like of course I think white people should always speak up against racism they shouldn't be quiet about it but when it comes for like right like reactions right after certain things are happening it's not my place immediately to do so. Like the victims that it's actually happening to can speak to this much better than my white ass, okay? So it's more so like listening in the beginning before speaking. And then from there after you listen, support.
Starting point is 00:17:40 That's how I've kind of looked at so many of these things that have happened in the last few years. Like, of course I can see what's right or wrong, but it's not actually happening to me. I'm only outside looking in on it. I can identify that that's terrible and awful and targeted, but I can't feel what that's like because they're not attacking me.
Starting point is 00:17:59 If I were in that supermarket, I would have been scared. Like, oh, fuck, there's somebody with a gun, but he would have walked past me. So there's a different level of me saying that's terrible and awful, but also benefiting off him running past me to go kill someone of a different race. So it's empathy is what I can give, but I can't speak to. it directly. It's just crazy because, you know, that's part of the beauty of this. It's just with different culturally, obviously, but alike in a lot of ways because we're
Starting point is 00:18:30 from the same city, you know, we run around the same circles and industry and things like that. Eskimo brothers. Yeah. You know. But it's like for you, that's your experience and how you feel. For me, I automatically go into protective mode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Like now I don't want my mom going to the grocery store. I don't want my sister going to the grocery store. I don't want my niece is going. You know what I don't want my nephew's going because it's kind of like we know that black people were targeted. Yeah. So now it's like we're going to protection.
Starting point is 00:19:01 You go into empathy, you know, listening, trying to understand. But like you said, you know that it wouldn't affect you because had you been in the grocery store, he would have walked right past you. Yeah. And I saw a few people talking about like, oh, well, white people are killed in mass shootings all the time. I'm like, all right, well, you have to have some common sense and see the difference in the two.
Starting point is 00:19:25 With so many of mass shootings that involve white people, and, you know, they'll throw the stat out there, like, more white people were killed in mass shooting. It's like, all right, dog, this mass shooting was specifically targeted because of the race they were. Now, in other mass shootings, these people were specifically targeted at school because they were bullies. They weren't white bullies or, like, there weren't black, but they were just bullies. So they killed them off the strength of bully, not race. It was in Colorado with the movie theater. He was just a very mentally ill person too involved in the Batman movie. He didn't go there and target a specific group.
Starting point is 00:20:04 They just happened to be there. So there's a large difference between a mass shooting that is directed with a manifesto saying, I'm going to kill black people because of this stupid conspiracy theory shit I read on YouTube. and someone being mentally ill and just spraying into a concert festival, whoever gets hit gets hit. Like it's different. That's why I hate...
Starting point is 00:20:28 The people that are doing it are doing it intentionally. They're not stupid people. They're smart people. That's why they're trying to compare statistics of how many white people were killed in mass shootings and why is this a race thing? Because it is. Those other things are...
Starting point is 00:20:40 Those mass shooting things are not related to race. Anyone that was there is getting killed. Or directly, these people did this to me. at school so I'm killing them. It's not a race thing. It's a mental illness thing. Yeah. And a gun thing when it comes to that stuff. Now, this is a mental illness thing, a gun thing, and racism. Yeah. And, you know, me, I put all of that into mental health.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I think racism is mental health. It's all of that is, you know, it's people are out here sick and they need help and they need, you know, they need to be, I guess, you know, put somewhere where they can get help. And, but this, the bottom line is, you know, this is actually, this is an act of terrorism. This is a white supremacist killing minorities, black people. And, you know, again, this country, this government, they have to do something to protect us, to protect the people. And just, again, make sure that something like this absolutely does not and it cannot happen again. Like this is, this is, you know, we're too, we're too forward in progression in other areas, you know, technology and, you know, financially, you know, people are making money, building businesses and things like that, ownership. And we're still dealing with things like this. You know, it's, it's time to step up, make changes, make effective changes immediately and make sure that this, this doesn't happen again.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And that's just the bottom line. There's nothing to march protest about, you know, this. We have to do something. This has to change. Bottom line. Change these fucking gun laws. Bairn these weapons. And let's move forward in society and start to heal and move in a better direction.
Starting point is 00:22:20 But this shit like this can't happen again. On a lighter note, switching gears, Billboard Awards. I didn't watch it purposely. I don't really have much interest in the board wars. I didn't watch it. I like the fact that Diddy hosted and executive produced it? Okay. See, I don't even know that.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Maybe I would have watched that. I do like that. I didn't watch it, but I saw some of the clips of the performances online. I saw that Drake won everything. Well, here's the thing with that. It was Drake honoring night. And I should know this, but I've just never cared for the Billboard Awards. Do people just watch for performances?
Starting point is 00:23:00 Because there's no, like, debate on who can win. It's just, yeah, like, you know who. It's the statistics. Yeah. Well, that's why I said I like the fact that they let Puff Executive Bridges. I think they're trying to make it to where. And that's actually a good idea to let whoever's hosting every year, whoever with the artists, maybe let them executive producers as well.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yeah, that'd be cool. Like, this is a way to kind of like, it's my birthday party. It's kind of like, yo, let me put some, let me put this together visually. Let's, you know, let's get these people to perform and things like that. But I didn't watch it, but it looked like it was dope. I saw Tiana Taylor. She looked great, as usual. Meg looked great.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Saw some of her performance. I saw some clips of it. And we had a wardrobe malfunction with city girls with JT. She told everybody to relax. She had black panties on, you know. It could have been intentional. Well, the way that dress was cut, it's, you know, you start moving around walking too much things shift. And, you know, people are down in the pit, you know, and you're kind of up.
Starting point is 00:24:02 People can look up and see, you know, it's, you know how it is. Where does it rank in wardrobe malfunctions? Janet being probably number one. Hmm I'm told Jesse Williams is coming up in a strong number two
Starting point is 00:24:17 That was not a wardrobe It was done purposely Amen He's got a dick out on stage Yeah I'm gonna take a time off To go see on my Broadway too You all need Jesus
Starting point is 00:24:28 You know I tried that same thing a few years ago Just to be naked in the window Just you know They called the police on me Like it wasn't like a mad I think that's actually a crime
Starting point is 00:24:38 It's like But Jesse gets to stand on Broadway, but naked and it's art. Well, he was like Othello or something, so it was different. Ah, I got to change my name. Death of a salesman or something. Why you thought he was Othello? I don't, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I actually don't remember this story of Othello. Did I make, make a remark that I should know? What? Did you look high? I for if I play Othello? Yes, but it was called O. Oh. Can we, all right, we need homework.
Starting point is 00:25:02 This is your last day here. This is your last day here. I promise you this is your last day here. Homework for next episode. Everyone go back and watch O, so we can break down O. but okay it's a classic
Starting point is 00:25:14 but it's a terrible classic yeah and isn't julius styles in it yes why is she always in an interracial relationship is Julia
Starting point is 00:25:24 style someone's either teaching how to play basketball how to dance like Julia Stiles is really married to a white man I mean a black man in real life
Starting point is 00:25:31 that's just hilarious method acting is Julia Stiles he is a white man Mr. Preston Cook yeah that's the whitest name I've ever heard in my life. So now she is Julia Cook.
Starting point is 00:25:42 So she is a really good actress, though. Yeah, absolutely. She loves, she loves black people on camera. I didn't say that to me. The winners from this? No, we all know who won. Drake won everything. Let me just reiterate my fucking point that I made with the Grammys.
Starting point is 00:25:59 They keep putting Doja Cat at R&B fucking categories and she's taking awards from actual R&BX. Doja Cat is not R&B. Why is she in R&B? She wouldn't say she's an R&B. She was nominated in almost every category, and she only won in the R&B categories, taking it away from summer. And that's not fair.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It's so fucked up. I felt the same way about Lizzo that that year that happened to. Because I didn't think she made an R&B album. She took every fucking R&B award ever that year. Yeah. And it's obvious racism. It's so, it's like fucking obvious to a duck. Y'all will not let us be pop artists.
Starting point is 00:26:34 It's so fucked up. Yeah, it's, it's, um, how is Doja not pop? Yeah, I don't. I don't get that. And that is, you know, what Damar said is 100% accurate. That is unfortunate for artists like Summer Walker because Summer Walker had a phenomenal album. She, like I was telling Rory, she, the numbers her first two or three weeks were, I think only Beyonce at the time. That's great. Had numbers like that. And then Adele came a few months after and obviously did what Adele does. But just the fact that summer as an R&B artist had that year and had that
Starting point is 00:27:05 project that was amazing. Like, she should be, you know, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, Doja, listen, love Doja. I think she's a great artist. I think she's a lot more talented than I thought at first, and I believed that first. But she's not R&B. Not even close. Yeah, it's just not R&B.
Starting point is 00:27:24 What did they put Adele in? Adele is R&B as well. I'm not as mad as Adele being armed. No, this last album was pretty R&B. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. But I was curious if they put Adele in recent years in pop, because that's kind of crazy. Doja Cat is an R&B and Adele.
Starting point is 00:27:39 would be in pop. I'm pretty sure Adele has won Grammy's in pop. So they nominated Doja in the pop categories, but they didn't give it to her. They gave it to Olivia fucking Roger Brown, who is the current Taylor Swift,
Starting point is 00:27:51 and you know what I mean when I say that. But for Doja to win in R, it's like they just gave her the R&B. She's not, she has one R&B song. She doesn't make R&B. Yeah. I'd rather she be in rap.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's not fair. Which is why we just need to, I would put her in rap before I'd put her in. Yeah. We need to just create our, own award show. We have one. Nobody goes.
Starting point is 00:28:15 What, the BET Award? Damn. No. The Ambies. The Ambies? No. What did you say? The Ambies?
Starting point is 00:28:23 That's what I'm like, what is he talking about? I know I heard the Amby's. I'm not trying. I'm not, wait, the Ambyes are not ours. No, we lost. We lost. No, the BT Awards. Yeah, but the BT Awards.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Even the BETT Awards is... It's white own now, though, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, and it's not... We need, like, a real, you know... Of the culture. for the Culture Awards show where... Source Awards. The committee...
Starting point is 00:28:43 Something that feels like that where the committee is like the current artists or like the legends and they sit on the board and they'd like, oh, she had a great year. She deserved that or he deserves this. I think Puff would be the perfect person to lead that. Yeah, like Puff, Hove, Beyonce, you know, those, Rihanna, Kanye, those artists. Like, you know, design a award, design a statue, a trophy. Called the Donders. whatever something you know
Starting point is 00:29:10 and let's just let's just do it to where it's like you know that actually sounds like a war show yeah we salute our our artists in our culture and you know you make it a make it a weekend even and then the award show was just the last day where it's just like we're all somewhere on an island
Starting point is 00:29:24 and you know the war show is Sunday and then we have a big ass party on the beach let's do some fly shit for the culture man yeah or I just think we just this time we have enough power and control and money and things like that to really just create our own you know our own award show because again
Starting point is 00:29:40 that's unfortunate for artists like Summer Walker because she had an amazing album and she should have been rewarded for that. You know, speaking of Donda's Kanye actually won top gospel artist. Really? Top gospel artists. Who, Kanye? That would make sense.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Well, yay, sorry. Yeah, is that surprising? No, and Christian artists. Kanye, he would be the top, he could be the top artist period and he also makes gospel, so he's going to be... True. He'll be up there. But I'm sure a real gospel artist feels something like weird about that,
Starting point is 00:30:11 but he did make a gospel album. I would definitely be tight if I was been doing this gospel shit for real for a while. And then you just come in. Absolutely. Absolutely. Which is why you have gospel awards, you know, country. It was like when Michelle Obama got into podcasting. I was like, I've been doing this for so long.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Now Michelle's going to get everything. So yeah, shout out to the winners, the nominees. The Billboard Award. Shout out to Mary Jay Blige for doing a great job. Shout out to Mary Jay Blige for getting the icon award. Mary J, absolutely icon in every sense of the word. Stevie Wonder still has not been given a lifetime achievement award in BET. I just want to put that out there.
Starting point is 00:30:54 You'll see it one day. We're going to start the petition for you more. Yeah, we have. Are you Stevie Wonder? Even the blind could see he deserved it. He had 14 albums before he was 21 or some shit. They're going to get that shit to trick Daddy before him. I will go to BET myself.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And say, listen, everybody on the board, we have to square one by one. I'm fighting all of you if that ever happens. You don't think Trick deserves one? Are you kidding me? He's done a lot. Are you kidding me? Oh, Steve. I'm not saying Trick Daddy's done a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I'm not saying Trick didn't do a lot. Over Stevie? A lifetime. Come on, man, we're not doing that, man. We can't do that. No, enough is enough. A trick has lived a life, man. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You are ready to talk about this Kendrick album? Mall came ready. Yo, man. Born ready. You know, I'm just glad that, you know. Third eyes open? No, man, it just feels good to have artists that still believe in freedom of speech and believe in, you know, I am an artist and this is art and I am art and this is what I do and I'm the best at it. But yes, I have trauma.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I'm dealing with mental health issues. I'm dealing with addiction. I'm dealing with insecurities. I'm dealing with, you know, lack of love from family and, you know, generally. generational depression and generational trauma and sexual abuse. And like he said, I am all of us, right? So it's like, yeah, we all, no matter how much money you got, how much success you have, we all have our things that we deal with in life because nobody is exempt from, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:26 the ups and downs of life. And I think Kendrick did a beautiful job at expressing that and making it cool and saying it in a cool way. But teaching at the same time and trying to heal. You know, just taking the Band-Aid off and addressing things. And, you know, this is how you deal with it. You got to address it and heal and move on. Grieve.
Starting point is 00:32:46 You got to, you know, talk to each other and support each other. Even them talking about his relationship with his wife and, you know, her being strong enough to ask him, like, do you have an addiction? Yeah. Why do you keep doing this? Like, just things like that, man. It's like, you know, it's like, shit. This is such a grown-up adult. This is his Irish 444.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah. Where he's being vulnerable, he's being accountable, he's addressing, you know, real things, but still giving us art. Like this to me is an audio book. This is not even really an album for me. I feel like he did such a great job at, you know, pulling from some of our, you know, most inspirational movies. You know, even the record with Taylor Pageers, is it fuck you? Is that the name of that one?
Starting point is 00:33:36 That is, we cry together. We cry together. You know, that's a, that's inspiration from, you know, the movie Baby Boy and poetic justice. And, you know, but he's putting it in a way where it's like, okay, we do deal with this type of things and we disrespect each other. We hurt each other because we're hurt and we're going to things and we're dealing with insecurities and things like that. But, you know, talk about it. Address it. And then, you know, hopefully you get to a place of healing and understanding and love, you know, ultimately is the.
Starting point is 00:34:07 deciding factor of this is my person, this is my wife, this is my husband, this is somebody that I can't live without, I don't want to do this life thing without them, this is my partner. You know, yes, we have our insecurities and we have our issues and we have things that we deal with that we don't necessarily talk about in the dress all the time, or we find not healthy ways to talk about it. We disrespect each other. You know what I mean? And it's like, for Kendrick to do that and the way he did it and, you know, I just think
Starting point is 00:34:35 that he, this is him totally. separating himself from any conversations or any, you know, lists or, you know, pack of where you think Kendrick belongs. He's a standalone artist. I don't think that you can really compare him to anybody anymore, if you were. I don't think that you can, you know, question him when he disappears what he's doing. Like, he's living life. He's healing. He's with his family. He's, you know what I mean? He's taking time for itself. And it's like, okay, he basically let us know in a very mature, adult, cool, artistic way. Like, bro, I'm human.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I just have a skill and a talent, you know what I mean? Like, and I'm an artist, but I'm human. You know what I'm saying? I hurt. I cry. I laugh. You know, like I'm missing out on things because I'm working. And, you know, my family suffers.
Starting point is 00:35:26 My lady suffers. My kids. You know, it's like, it's so many things that he put into this album and just the sound of it all, just blending different sounds. And even the way it's mixed. It's like, you know, this is art. This is the epitome of an artist in a zone where it's like, we're privileged that he shared this skill with us and this talent with us.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Like, it's impressive. I think that any artist has to be inspired from this. It's hard for a real artist to listen to this and not feel like, oh, shit, like, damn. I was going to say, after. after the first listen, my first thought was this should have been called damn. Because my reaction at the end of it, I didn't have an opinion yet. I didn't have much. I just kind of had a sigh and was like, damn.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah. Like it felt like when I've even, and it's not even a negative thing. Like when I've had really good therapy sessions, they still take a lot out of you. So like for the rest of the day, you're kind of like fatigued mentally. Yeah. And I don't mean that in a bad way with this album. But after that first listen, I was like, all right, I need a second. Yeah, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:40 It's a whole lot going on right now. Even though we cry together, record. Like, you know, I've never gotten into a verbal argument with a woman like that. It was never that, like, you know, disrespect for it. But just, you know, listening to that, it was like, damn, like, that's a lot. And, you know, I've seen that, you know, I got friends that have had arguments and things with their, you know, with their partners and stuff like that. sometimes I'm around for, but, you know, you kind of like that's their business, you stay out of it. But now listening to an artist like, you know, do it like that.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And it's just like, wow, like through all of that really is, you know, insecurities, love and uncertainties and, you know, emotions. But it's like, let's address it, though. Like, let's get it all out because we can't move forward because we have all these things in our mind and all these emotions bottled up that we can't get to that place where it's like, damn, like we really love each other and we have a great time with each other. Like, so just hearing it like that was like, wow. Well, halfway through that record, I was like, okay, I know Kendrick.
Starting point is 00:37:49 He's super complex and does different angles. Like, he's about to wrap her perspective after the fight and then she's going to understand. And it just kind of just straight through went, nah, fuck you, until they started. fucking. And I was like, yeah, I guess it's probably better that there was no smart flip to this because this is just how it goes. It's how it goes. It's just screaming and then fucking. Yeah, screaming, yelling, get all this shit out. But it's like, damn, I love you though. You know what I mean? Like, and, you know, it's toxic. It's, you know, but it's like, you know, love is real. It's like, you know, yeah, I'm insecure and you know why and I've cried and
Starting point is 00:38:23 I've told you things and I've shared things with you. And now you're using those things to like stab me with them. You know what I'm saying? It's like throwing me my face. You know, it's an unfortunate and unhealthy way to navigate the relationship, but it's a real way. And to me, that's what this album. It's just a real album. It's a raw, emotional, vulnerable, just dope-ass fucking way to just put together music and art and deliver it to us, man. And that shit, you know, again, this, to me, this is what you call, you know, we like to use the word classic and masterpieces and, you know, those type of, this is what. you call a masterpiece in my opinion and again in my opinion is just my opinion on music
Starting point is 00:39:06 and things like that and how we all look at art and receive art is different but to me this checks all of the boxes of okay this dude is one of one oh i i completely agree with that this artist is one of one there's not many that can do what he just did and you know again it was palatable even the record was summer i love that record the record was sampha i told you that guys when I'd take you back from LA that I had heard that summer record and I couldn't stop talking about the hook because I just thought that line was so brilliant. Shut the fuck up when you hear love talking. That shit is like a reminder for when you're in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Like, all right. That's love. That's love. Even if it doesn't sound like love, that's love talking to me right now. Let me shut the fuck up. Which was perfect coming after that we cry together record. Even that, the sequencing, everything. Like I said, this is why to me and just my humble opinion, this is.
Starting point is 00:40:01 is what we call a masterpiece. This was a masterclass in art, rapping, hip hop, you know, just pulling from life and drawing inspiration from real events that's going on in your world and putting them all together in this, what I call audio book, because Kendra can go on tour with this album
Starting point is 00:40:20 and he can literally take, this could be a Broadway play. Yeah, fantastic. Like, he can literally perform this as a Broadway piece. And, you know, it's just refreshing and dope to see that. In a time where, you know, everything is like just for clicks and numbers and it's not nothing that's really like sticks to the ribs and stands the test of time that we'll I'll always go back to this album and listen to it
Starting point is 00:40:43 just because I feel like if you're not there yet as far as emotionally with a lot of these songs and things like that one day you will and it's like those songs resonate more like oh shit like that's where it's timeless you know what I mean but that's also I feel privileged to be around the exact same age as Kendrick and have grown up the same damn near a year apart from his first album to this one with very much
Starting point is 00:41:11 similar experiences. Like I'm glad I'm 32 listening to this album because there's so much stuff that's currently resonating in my 32 year old life. If I was 24 I wasn't emotionally mature enough. I'd probably like oh this is cool and I might even like some of the deeper therapy stuff at 24 but I wouldn't have connected to it very well.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I just be like, oh that's a cool perspective. Yeah. Yeah, no, this album was great, man. I do think we cry together is his ratchet happy birthday, though. Okay. I can see that. I can see that being his ratchet happy birthday. It's his ratchet happy birthday. Yeah. Because we know Drake makes music for women to party to better than probably any artist ever. Kendrick, a lot would say, makes some of the greatest conscious music that you could still jam out to and still have replay value. Drake completely missed the mark on making a song for a woman to play at her birthday
Starting point is 00:42:05 and it skipped on the album and we cry together yeah I listened to it on the first go round on the second go round and the rest of the weekend I did skip that record okay same it's it was his conscious record that didn't yeah hit it's it's a record that I get it it should be an interlude we cry together yeah I agree and you could considerate one it It just didn't have the title of it. It's such a raw, it's such a raw song and raw emotions in that. True. That you almost can't listen to it every time we listen to the album.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Right. Well, also, it was her motherfucking birthday. Like, there's raw emotions and rash it. It's your. Yes. I don't, I don't ever want to hear you do that again. It's your motherfucking birthday. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Auntie Diaries. Have a Ratchet, happy birthday. Oh, sir. Please stop. The Auntie Diaries record I thought was a, another record on here that's just like, wow. Yeah, you would say Auntie Diaries Mother Eyes Over, Father Time
Starting point is 00:43:03 Count Me Out Purple Hearts would probably be like the undeniable I know N95 is the first single Yeah But the ones I just named were the ones that like To me were different different Yeah I love Savior in the car
Starting point is 00:43:19 But yeah, Auntie Diaries Speak to it Auntie Diaries man I mean Listen we all have you know, family members that choose a lifestyle that we may not always understand
Starting point is 00:43:36 and always, you know, that's always uncomfortable to talk about. But, um, again, Kendrick found a way to put it together and say it where it's like, exactly. That's exactly how I felt. That's exactly how I felt. That's exactly
Starting point is 00:43:54 some of the things that I went through and I experienced. Like, but I love, I don't care that my aunties a man now. Like, I love her. I love him. You know what I'm saying? Like that's just love. Like grew up teaching me things like sharing things with me.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Like just loving me, supporting me. Like I don't care what the sexual preference is. I don't care about that. Like, well, it spoke a lot. It spoke to the intelligent part of why cancel culture can be so destructive. And toxic, yeah. Because which he said perfectly. We all have used that word when we,
Starting point is 00:44:30 We were in middle school. Absolutely. Like that was a word. It was a word. You go back and listen to some of our favorite rap songs, some of our favorite movies. It's, yes, it was acceptable. Now, we learned that that word is not an acceptable word. And we no longer use it.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I know, I know other people do use it, but we no longer use that because we had to learn and grow about it. And even with a lot of transitioning and gender identities and all that, that wasn't really something that was talked about in our environment's period. So yeah, sometimes they would get the butt of the jokes on stuff. We're us not really knowing how offensive that was to the person that may even be quietly transitioning and not even telling anyone. And we're using these words and they're taking it personally, even if our intent was not to be talking about any member of the LGBTQ community. Right. That's how we were race. So now that we know and we don't use it anymore, I guess we're undeservingly asking for the grace of, say,
Starting point is 00:45:29 saying, hey, we really were raised to say that word and didn't realize how offensive it was. So please don't condemn me for something I didn't know and did way later on in my life. Like, I admit I have used that word before. Once I realized that that was not, even with my sense, like, you know, I'm not talking about a gay person. So. Right. Right. I had to learn that that word was not appropriate and very fucking offensive.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And as can be attached to actual violent acts. It's a safety thing too. So I think Kendrick was putting in the perspective of someone that grew up as any regular kid and didn't know. And then we learned. And we want to be accepted too that we were dumb and just saying shit we didn't understand. Don't condemn me as if I was intentionally using that word to say it to you to offend you or hurt you. Right. We're all human. Doesn't make it right or excuse it, but it adds some understanding to it.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And that's what I'd love about the Auntie Diary. Mr. Morrell and the big steppers, you know, to me, a masterpiece, a classic album. Where does it rank? A beautiful way to get out of cheating. Love it.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Where do you guys rank it in Kendrit's discography? I don't know yet. It's too soon to tell. I still have Good Kid Mad City at number one. I think this will be right after that. Yeah, I'm going to have to live with it. And that includes like Section 8. and overly dedicated or we just try.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I think for me, just because of where he is, you know. If you could just give me like your top three in order. Good kid, Mr. Morrell. And I like Dan, bro. It's up between Dan and Section 80, I think, for me. Yeah. I do, I personally am damn, good kid, Mr. Morale.
Starting point is 00:47:20 So what's interesting, I saw, I talked to a friend of mine who was a rapper. I don't say his name because rappers are sensitive. And he was disappointed. with the production on the album. Really? And I started talking to him and he brought up Damn, obviously, because Damn is like a fucking masterclass in production.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Like, Damn is kind of like my beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy in that it's like perfect. It's just there's not a single flaw. It's like purposely the most high end music you can hear. I don't think any of his messaging from this album would have worked over damn production. So it's like... Right.
Starting point is 00:48:01 People with 444 complained a lot about the production that it was a little slow and, you know, didn't... Different energy. I'm like, but yeah, how you get that type of shit off on the damn beats? Exactly. It's just different energy and, you know, that and that's... That's not to say that Kendrick can't give you that
Starting point is 00:48:18 because he gave us that. He gave us an album where the production was... It was undeniable. Yeah. I think this one, just the energy and where he's at in his life, this is what this is the sound that it required
Starting point is 00:48:30 some tracks on it was aggressive the drum of Kodak is hard to Silent Hill, love that record I love the fact that Kendrick kind of like snatched Kodak narrated it more or less because I you know Kodak is one of those artists that I've always you know
Starting point is 00:48:45 spoken highly of that I see the amazing talent and if he can just get out of his own way yeah so it's good to see somebody like Kendrick reach back and kind of like give him that stage and that platform like, you're special, bro. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:02 And I feel like even like kind of stereotypically within hip hop because you know the fan basis, I'm not even saying race related, but just the fan basis of like the real hip hop and like the conscious hip hop shit would look at Kodak without really giving him a chance and be like, that's not for me. Yeah. I can't understand him. Like what the fuck is going on. I like that Kendrick took Kodak, knowing Kodak probably has a lot of the same experiences in his life that Kendrick does, but from a different point of view.
Starting point is 00:49:32 It's from a southern point of view. And you can highlight how fucking intelligent Kodak really is and put him in a conscious space and be like, see, this doesn't sound weird. Yeah, exactly. Like this sounds fun. This is y'all are judging hip-hop incorrectly. Right, right. I just love that, man. That just shows the type of person that Kendrick is, you know, he recognizes his and artist.
Starting point is 00:49:52 that, you know, if we just put our arm around him and guide him and kind of, you know, put him in different rooms and allow him to be the genius that I believe he is and just, you know, get out of his way and take him out of those environments and those temptations around him that, you know, pull at you and kind of keep you in a certain space as far as your energy and just your thought process, put him somewhere and bring him around a room with different energy and different type of love and different type of respect and support and watch him shine. And I thought. But, you know, shout out to Kendrick for that. It takes a certain type of person to recognize that and see that and then to act on it and do things like give him this stage. He knew what this was going to do for Kodak. Yeah. And now puts him on a different respect level from other artists. People now go check out Kodak and, you know, not just the songs that you hear going
Starting point is 00:50:42 viral, like dig into his catalog. Like, he has gyms and bars in there where it's like, how old is this kid? 19, 20. You were the one that, because I would listen to the Kodak records that everyone, I never dug deep. When you started playing years ago Kodak around me, I was like, oh, he's different. No, no, no. Kodak, he's definitely one of those guys that, you know, when you just listen to people with a different type of intent, you start to hear things like, oh, his brain works on that frequency. He just is not dialed into that yet.
Starting point is 00:51:15 You know what I mean? But he has things he's been saying throughout his career, and it's like, for a kid to be this young, talking about things like this and saying things like this, you know that it's in him. Like it's, it's there. It's said differently because of where he's from. Exactly. And there's certain things that still, you know, energy, still around a certain energy that still pulls at him in a way and has him in bad situations.
Starting point is 00:51:34 But shout out to Kendrick for that. That was super dope. Definitely was a surprise to me. I didn't expect it. I didn't see that happening. But that was super fire. Shout out to Whitney. Shout out to Whitney.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Why are you shouting out Whitney? For, I'm sure Kendrick and his, wife or ex-wife, I didn't fully at the end of the album, nowhere landed. I'm sure they had a conversation. I believe that's her on the album cover. Yes. So obviously she was very much involved in this album.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Now, if we go back into Kendrick's relationship, all we've known and loved about them is that they stayed to themselves, they shut the fuck up. It was all the memes. Like, Kendrick has had the same girl since high school and they don't go in public. And, like, her life,
Starting point is 00:52:20 the only thing we know publicly about her life is that it's not public. And that's what she's known for. So whereas 444, yeah, we got lemonade. Beyonce is the biggest star ever. Jay is huge. Their relationship has been picked apart. We saw the elevator.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Like it wasn't something that I think would affect them drastically because they're so used to the public eye. Now Whitney has minded her fucking business for Kendrick's whole career. And now we're about to shatter that perfect image of what we thought the high school sweetheart, private marriage. They're doing it right. Real couples goals. Like I would see people like, no, I don't want that. I want what Kendrick and Whitney have.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Now that is going to be put in the public. You're not a public figure. This album is going to sell half a million first week probably. your business is out there. Yeah. Like out there, out there. Yeah, she definitely, but, you know, we talk about this a lot, that women are definitely the gatekeepers, quote unquote,
Starting point is 00:53:31 the driving force behind culture and hip hop. Some of our greatest records were inspired by a woman. Some of our greatest albums were inspired by women. You know what I mean? So it's just, it's just dope. to see a star like Kendrick, superstar like Kendrick, be so vulnerable and honest
Starting point is 00:53:52 about his life and the relationship and how it's like, yeah, I go through the same thing that quote unquote, normal, everyday, regular people go through. We have the same issues. And I don't know if he, Mr. Morale, if he explained the title, but how I proceeds it after the album was
Starting point is 00:54:08 we have given Kendrick that he has morals, integrity, he's this conscious, straight up, like he's perfect, he's intelligent, everything. And this album he's like, no. I'm over here going through it. I'm not Mr. Moral.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Yeah. I'm over here going through it. Look at all the immoral things I've done. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought that was ill. In father time, it's a very interesting one that I think a lot of men that have been in relationships and in therapy and had to have those conversations have felt. Because
Starting point is 00:54:45 you can dig into cheating and insecurities and wanting to feel wanted even if it's from a stranger, things like that. Which can definitely derive from how men are raised. So once that becomes not really an excuse
Starting point is 00:55:01 or reason to cheating, that's a difficult conversation to have with a human because cheating is something that we don't really put on mental health at all. You cheat your scumbag, you're a dirtbag, you're lying piece of shit. It's never fully understood and it can almost come across as like, oh,
Starting point is 00:55:17 you're using the mental health thing to do the cheating part. Now it's explained, and I mean, Kendrick kept it at a surface level that we could all make it palatable, as you said. But I think that's a conversation to be had. And I don't think it's just male specific. I think women cheat for very specific reasons that is attached to how they were raised and their mental health. I just don't know if the world, with how we view cheating, if the world is really ready to have mental health be an excuse and reason. and maybe accepting of certain behaviors in relationships when it is connected to cheating.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I think that's the beauty of this album is that he's trying to make it to where it's okay to have those conversations. Like he said, his wife asks him, like, are you having an addiction? Bro, that takes a different type of woman to present it to her husband like that or her partner and just want to talk about it. Like, I think you may have an addiction. I love you, but.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Because that's not usually, obviously that was not the first time. Right. He was caught. Right. So the typical person, male or female, would be like, all right, again, yeah, I'm out of here. Like, I allowed it the first few times, whatever. Like, you said he was going to stop. Let me just get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Not like, all right, you have an addiction. I'm putting you in therapy. Yeah. And then we'll figure it out from there. Strong, strong, powerful, powerful, powerful project. You know, salute to Kendrick, his entire team. This was amazing. Thank you for this.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Like I said, I don't even know if anything else came out over the weekend. I didn't get a chance to hear it. It wasn't focused on anything. I'm sorry. But yeah, Mr. Morrell and the Big Steppers, supposed to do some crazy numbers. Not that I care about what it's going to do its first week. I don't care about that type of shit.
Starting point is 00:57:10 But this is on record to be the biggest release of the year. eight and he's damn Kendrick this would probably be his biggest release because it's 18 records he was already streaming obviously more than pretty much anyone besides Drake sometimes
Starting point is 00:57:28 yeah yeah with 14 and under you get an 18 with these algorithms yeah Kendrick might do something stupid well it's worth it you know it's worth it it it's a great project rappers artists
Starting point is 00:57:42 I hope and pray that y'all take this in and appreciate it and just, you know, understand what this is really about and how this is really supposed to go. And, you know, what hip hop is. It's supposed to be the soundtrack to our communities and our, you know, homes and what's going on in our lives and things like that.
Starting point is 00:58:02 But make it cool to talk about. And I think that Kendrick did that. Was it a shot at Drake that he left him off, Xavier? Well, he said, you know, he said he had some of what trying to do. He said when he saw Kanye and Drake make up, he knew that he had. And even that was just, honest to just say that like I'm not there yet like I'm not I know a lot of people
Starting point is 00:58:20 looked at shit like what kind of goofy shit y'all just was going back and forth and now y'all you're walking down to fucking steps together yeah yeah type of weird shit is this yeah that's what I'm saying this was it this this project I think is well hopefully it it it just makes people just be more forthcoming with honest conversations and emotions just be honest with your emotions and say what's on your mind and in your heart, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:46 but from a place of not disrespect, just like, yo, I'm just not there. I'm not into that. I don't, it's not what I do.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I don't fuck with that type of shit. Like, you know, I think that it's just, this is going to promote a lot of healthy conversations. I hope. For sure.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Um, so for that, yeah. When's the next time we'll be hearing from Kendrick, do you think? Or is this the last one? Uh,
Starting point is 00:59:11 think, uh, The direction of the company with Dave is really, I don't think Kendrick's going to disappear. I think we'll see a lot more of Kendrick. He'll pop up on a lot of stuff. But an album, I'm not sure, because he's about to start this whole,
Starting point is 00:59:25 well, he has launched the company with Dave already. But now obviously out of the TD shit, him and Dave can freely work just on this. I think Keem is the focus. Keem is definitely the focus. I just think we're going to see Kendrick. He'll be more visible than he's ever been before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Because he's going to have to develop these artists and, of course, they're going to need the Kendrick. help as any rap rapper slash labelhead would do yeah um and i don't think it'll just be music i think it's been clear that him and dave want to work on creative stuff visual oral yeah from visual from visuals the movies tv etc so i just think we'll see a lot more of them i don't know if that's going to be musically but kendrick will be present way more than he's ever been is is my guess damaris you have a woman's point of view on the album i actually have not heard it oh you didn't hit album yet. I haven't had a chance to a really busy weekend.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Yeah, when you get a chance, you know. I definitely, I plan on catching up on all the albums that released this month. I just haven't been listening to music. I don't listen to music like most people do. Like, who have to hear it like constantly, like when they're cleaning, when they're cooking, when they're like, when they're walking. Like, I very rarely play music. Funny enough. No, this was, I mean, this was obviously the one that we was waiting on. Yeah. So this was, I made sure that I, I, I,
Starting point is 01:00:41 I took all of a Saturday night, Sunday morning, Sunday afternoon to really just keep it playing. Even if I'm in the house cleaning, it's just like rotating. I'm just listening to hearing songs, differently catching lines. But yeah, great project, man. This is a beautiful, beautiful project. My summer is set. Huh? My summer is set.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I got Kendrick and Bad Bunny. You're going to be going cut crazy. You're going to be twerking and praying, Allah. Yo. What? So who's coming next? That of Kendrick's off the way. Who was coming next?
Starting point is 01:01:16 I don't think people are going to sit down for a while. I think they're going to, it's not going to be some releases for this. I don't mean like next like immediately. I mean this year. Oh, what do you think will be next? That's weird though. I think it kind of left room. That's why I did like this album too.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Because you know, there's some albums where it's like, no one can really put shit out because it's going to sound weird. Yeah, like this is, like, nobody's going to be able to do this. It's not to Pimp a butterfly where maybe people should wait and like clear the palate. This is something else can go against this that's nothing like it. Totally different. Yeah. So it's still roomline.
Starting point is 01:01:48 And don't get it twisted. We're all about balance here. I played the Kendrick shit. And then I went right back to ESTG and 42 Doug on my thump shit. Don't get a twisted. Like we keep balancing order around here. Like I'm going to get the consciousness and the mental health shit. But then we're going to put on some EST and we're going to.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Some ignorant. Yeah, we're going to roll up and do what we do. But yeah, I think that obviously I think I think Hover's coming this year. You think so really? Yeah. I think Beyonce's coming this year. Do you have insights? I think, I could see B before I can see Jay.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Hobbes, we already got a verse from him with push. Like, once you see Hove doing things like that, that means he's creating. Now, Jay will always throw a little verse out every once in a while. No, but that means he's like, he's creating. He's an album. Yeah, he's an album. Yeah, he's an album. I mean, Guru's even said in interviews publicly, like, he's always working.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It's just if something sticks that it feels like it could carry the rest of a, project. Yeah. Like, he'll record every day. It's just, it's just to stay in shape. I think albums like this shake the,
Starting point is 01:02:48 it wakes the, those guys. Yeah. It's like, oh. They feel inspired. They'll get inspired by the shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's just, it shakes the tree where it's like,
Starting point is 01:02:58 okay, like he's, Kendrick has arrived. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, he's, he's here. He's one of, he's one of the,
Starting point is 01:03:07 the greats at this point. Like, shit, I hope it does it with three stacks. After life of the party, which was very similar to the content that's on Kendrick's album, just down to childhood, analyzing it, therapy, how you react to it. That's the bag Andre's in right now. And Kendrick just put this out.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I hope that kind of leads Andre back into something. Yeah. That's not just flute-related. Yeah, man. Stacks, put the flutes down, goddammit, and get in the booth. You can bring the flute with you. Yeah, I mean, I don't mind the flute. Yeah, bring the flute with you, but...
Starting point is 01:03:40 You can unleash the flutes. Yeah, we need some bars. man we need some we need some bars i need some i need some some captions man some melody something yeah or just let me get a photo in soho if not yeah you'll see him it just i promise you you stayed it on the corner just chilling but what the what else happened over the weekend like i was fully in fully kendrick mode i was in mom mode i was i have no idea what happened kensrick and the b b b bmas no no cool gossip happened no edin come on give me the gerry no guy you know some guys gossip happening, Edwin.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Why would you think that I know the gossip? Well, Courtney just got married, Kardashian. Bye, Edon. You're welcome. Thank you. That's what you wanted for me. Maul was the best man?
Starting point is 01:04:25 Mall, you were the best man? No, Edin, I was not. He was the flower girl. Why would you hold that from us? Definitely was not the best guy. Maul, will you be my best guy? At your... Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:04:38 You will? What? Thank you. Yeah, hell yeah. You want to tell us something? No. Oh. I'm about to say.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Like, it's been a hell of a weekend. Yeah, right? I couldn't get around of the country album. You was a single last Monday. Now it's all of a sudden like, yo, would you be my best? Like, wait, what happened over the week?
Starting point is 01:04:54 Oh, it's the best type of marriages though. Y'all would be the last to know when I was engaged. Why would be the last to know? I want my engagement to last. I want to get actually. Wait. So you think that we would be. You're the last one to know?
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yeah. Yeah. You think we would derail your engagement? The girl is the last one to know. Yeah, well, I wouldn't derail. Everyone else around her knows it's coming. Yeah. Roots Picnic coming up June 4th, June 5th, right?
Starting point is 01:05:20 Philadelphia. Yes, sir. If you don't have your tickets, get your tickets now. Shout out to all the other podcasts on the stage that night. Weezy Mandy, Hardwood Decisions, Earned your leisure. All those people. All of the people, Gilly Wallow. Shout out to them.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Shout out to Questlove. Shout out to Black Thought. Shout out to Entire Roots. Yeah, so let's have a good time that weekend. Hopefully it's nice out. Yeah. Got a lot of fun that weekend. Some live dates that we're going to announce soon.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Live shows coming up. What else? Oh, playoffs, man. Jesus Christ. Chris Paul, man, broke my heart. I hated to see Chris Paul go out like that. Yeah. Totally embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Him and Devin Booker. I had either Phoenix or Golden State winning it all this year. Luca made them look like a full. Yeah, Luca. But Luca's special. He's pretty good at that basketball thing. He's a special talent, man. A special talent.
Starting point is 01:06:10 But Devin Booker and Chris Paul just, I can't believe. Game 7 at home and they didn't show up. Like that, that's just terrible, man. Heartbreaker. Yeah, that was just, I didn't think it was going to go down like that. But does he retire, you think? No way. No.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Not on that note. Not, Chris Paul. You can't after that. I think they break the team up or trying to. No, no, no. They'll be back. It'll be some additional pieces, but Devin Book and Chris Paul and DeAndra 8 and moving back next year.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Yeah, so shout out to the Mavericks though. They handled their business on the road, game seven. They didn't come to play. They jumped on them and stayed on them. Like a pimp with one prostitute. It's not a very successful film. He should watch American Pimp. Or read Iceberg Slim.
Starting point is 01:06:54 That guy, let me tell you, he was a fucking genius. Yeah, man. So shout out to the Mavericks. Golden State. Dallas should be a fun series. I think Steph Curry has that championship look in his eye once again. What does that look like? He's just on a different level.
Starting point is 01:07:13 well no I don't want to demonstrate Steph's championship demeanor but but we want to see it we don't know what you're talking about you said he's got Wednesday you'll see it but he's got that look but they're watching now and maybe we can't identify it the way you can like you can see between the lines Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday Wednesday I think Tuesday they play Wednesday Wednesday okay so tune in Wednesday to see Steph's our championship face
Starting point is 01:07:36 yeah man and uh Celtics Celtics shout out to the Celtics Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown. I don't know if they get past Miami, though. I don't think so. I don't know if they get past. I like Jason Tatum a lot. I don't know if they get past Miami. I think that series is going to go six games.
Starting point is 01:07:57 I think Miami get him in six, though. I want to see Boston win. I would love to see Jason Tatum in the finals. I think he's the next superstar in the league. So I would love to see him get his shot at the finals. Yeah. What are all the players that have been eliminated? saying in the NBA group chats
Starting point is 01:08:13 who's the saltiest? What are predictions amongst the league? Oh, everybody says Golden State. Okay. Everybody has Steph. Because the last time those three were healthy,
Starting point is 01:08:23 Steph, Draymond and Clay they won a championship. They won, yep. That would be what, number four for them? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. That's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:34 New movies coming out. DeMaris, we still didn't go see. Child, I went and seen that. I'm not playing with that. You guys, you went without him? I want the record this show. I want the record this show. I told her we can go.
Starting point is 01:08:43 No, I went, somebody took me on a date to go. And see, see how fast? You were replaced right away. This is what black women do. Y'all want to talk about black women? No, this is what black women do. Y'all replaced, you replace and your sub and y'all always, your monkey bar on the nigger.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Y'all got one nigger in one hand and you swing it to the next nigga. It's got the monkey bar fow. And that's what black women do. That was mom. You invited me to the movies. I said yes. And then you decided you want to go on a date with somebody else. That was Moll who said that.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah, it was me. Did you suggest that movie when he asked you on a date? You said what? No, he knew I liked Marvel, so he knew that he was like, nah, we got to see Marvel. Did he know that you invited me first? Yes, he did. He also knew you was going to cancel on me like you've been doing.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I didn't cancel. You could have just brought Maul. Could have been the three, y'all. Yeah. I wasn't here. Dating time and Moore would have been there. I wasn't in New York to bring you. He would have drove.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Oh, you went up there with Stovito and the. You know Mall is a sprinter. He would have came. Yo, Sprinting. A sprinter. Sprint fucking four hours to Syracuse is insane. To watch a Marvel movie with Stove God and Damaris. It's right here.
Starting point is 01:09:50 You pass all these theaters in Manhattan. Holy shit. Not just my theaters, you pass from here. To be fair, Moll was going through something last week. I didn't want to bother him. I know. I understand. It feels like you guys have been doing this tip-for-tat shit of saying you're going to
Starting point is 01:10:03 movies and not inviting someone. There's another movie coming out that you should probably see the first one. What? Top Gun 2 is coming out with Tom Cruise. I haven't seen one. Top Gun? Who? De Maris has to watch.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I never watched it. But it was so funny, I was Maverick for Halloween last year, but I never watched Top Gun. I just thought I was a pilot. No, I thought it was a regular pilot costume. He's Maverick. Everybody kept calling me Maverick, but I thought they were saying Maris. I went to work, it was two years ago. I went to work everything.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I was at a bar. I worked at a bar. Was your boyfriend Goose? I wasn't with him. I was actually with my girlfriend. That's a long story. Go watch Top Gun one and then we're going to go see Top Gun 2. Do you want to see Top Gun 2?
Starting point is 01:10:39 Do you want to see Top Gun 2? Absolutely. Did you see the trailer? I watched the trailer for it when I went to go see multiverse. Hell yeah, I want to see Top Gun. That was one of my favorite movies is Top Gun. I love Top Gun. I just don't, Tom Cruise now, Scientology.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I just don't know if I'm like. He about to chase the aliens now. You thought Independence Day was great. What did you see with Cruz and this technology and these cameras do. Double down. Finish where Will Smith couldn't? Yeah, absolutely. You kidding me?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Top Gun? Maverick? Hell yeah. So, yeah, we need to go see that, Damaris. Does he have a new goose? It's, I think it goose his son. Oh, God. I think Goose's son is in this one.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Because the guy, it's a guy that's in it, and he looks like he could be goose. But he's younger. So I'm like, that must be his son. Well, listen, man, salute to Tom Cruise for serving this long in the military services. He's still fighting? No, they came back and got him. 30 years ago? They came back and got him to train a new group of recruits.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Yeah. It's a crazy mission going on. And they need one of the greatest. pilot that would have to train. And you know, they have to find him in some discreet location. He's like, I'm just trying to get away from the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I'm off the grid.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Yeah. And then he opens up a secret room that has all of this technology and it. Like, I knew what you've been doing for the last 40 years. I've been following everyone. And then they guilt tripping with his patriotism. Like, dude. For the red, the white and the blue. They lose all hope and then he shows up.
Starting point is 01:12:01 He's like, one more time. You know how it happens. The last ride into the sun. For sure. You know, they're going to say some corny shit like this. This is the last. Is he going to die in this one? I hope not. I would cry if they kill Maverick.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Y'all brought him back to kill him? I mean, yeah, I was enjoying life. Hey, there was many moments in the first one he deserved to death. That's what they did to do. She had cancer. Okay, they brought her back to him. He's in a fighter jet. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Yeah, but you can't, wait, no, you can't have been dying in a fucking fight as a fighter as a pilot to cancer. I think they probably have the same probability of death. Yeah, pretty high. for everybody who is suffering with cancer this has been another episode of the new Rorya mall we're sending you prayers not we want to thank you for tuning in we want to thank you for continuing to come back weekly
Starting point is 01:12:47 and deal with our shit and talk about us in the comments and say that we have hips or I have hips like Shakira they don't lie it would be more like Danesburgs and J-Lo is the Adam Sandler movie good anyone he's like an NBA recruiter
Starting point is 01:13:04 didn't see it what? I was At the end, they shot him. Oh, you're talking about the jewelry movie? No, that's on. No, no, no, no. Everyone died. And then she went on to take Kanye West.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I never saw that movie, guys, but thanks for ruining the ending. She looked great in that movie. Oh, my God. She has so much ass. She looked great. She gave her hips to Mall because I don't know where the fuck they went after that movie. She was a Fox. This has been another episode of New Rory Mall.
Starting point is 01:13:29 It might be back next week. Might just be Mall. Because I'm going to kill him. I'm going to kill this white boy. I'm going to choke the shit out of him. I didn't have a asthma attack. We got to go. We'll be back.
Starting point is 01:13:41 See y'all. Have a great week. Be safe. Have fun. Love, live life. Procee. And, you know, just watch your surroundings and watch your energy, man, because it's strange things happening in the world right now. So just protecting love each other.
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