New Rory & MAL - Episode 69 | "The Soft Life"

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

Happy 69th Episode! (hehehe) The guys start off by opening a fan-sent gift for Rory's belated 32nd Birthday. Mal then leads the guys into a discussion regarding the latest buzz phrase amongst women- "manifesting a soft life", leaving them into a conversation regarding capitalism and hustle culture, and how women are rebelling against it. Demaris asks the guys permission to work remotely, and Rory tells us about his brief stint as a child star. Mal makes Rory choose between two Great White Hopes, and then reminisces on where he was when he found out Biggie had been killed. They also discuss women being tech detectives, new music, + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What are you doing? just getting adjusted and then he's making me nervous because he's standing up. I don't like when everyone sitting down and one person stands up. You don't like that? It just makes me nervous. I feel you. Yeah, the police usually do that when they knock at your door. I mean, don't do the jail post that doesn't make me feel anybody. You look like an undercover cop.

You definitely dress like all now. We'll all do respect. It's open already. I'm sure the people... That's a federal crime opening someone's mail. I don't know if you knew that or not. I'm a cop. For everybody, that's on our audio adventure instead of our video adventure. chair.

Roy is currently... Yes, this is... Rory opening a late Christmas gift, I mean, birthday gift from one of his beloved fans. This is an all-ageous show. Why does this say and a nude?

Well, just look at the other stuff first. Well, give me the nude. Let me make sure it's not anthrax in the envelope. The nude is for Rory. Does that because I don't want to pass nudes because that's not... Is it a real nude? I don't know.

You have to look at it. Well, all due respect, any woman sending you a nude... Actually, that says something behind it, too. In the mail. A nude... A nude picture? like a real picture? I think that's fine.

It might be a nude painting, like a painting of a nude, like a nude strip. That would be funny. What does it say? That would be. So describe in detail what you're looking at.

It says on the back, told you I deliver you some hose for your birthday and joy with this smiley face tongue out. That's real. First of all, I don't know who this is. So you're telling me

that you were going to deliver me the hose. No one ever told me that. Now you got look in the box. There might be a hole in there somewhere. Well, as my mom said, you always have to read the card first. It's rude. You just open the present.

That's very rude. I had home training. It says a lot. They thought about the gift. She didn't put her name on the box. Yeah, it's Rachel. Her name is Rachel. Here's Ho Ping.

Oh, I get it. Ho Ping. Oh, but she spelled it with like a ho. Ho Ping. Same. You have a happy horrific birthday. Well, it passed already and it wasn't horrific. Yes.

There were actually no hoes around. No. Not a ho in sight. We have fun, though. Well, there might be one in here. We got to keep going through the box. Well, she got me a hose. Like an actual hose?

Like, get it, the hose. Here's the thing. I have a hose, but my new spot doesn't, I need like a hose thing. You always need a roof. But I mean, yeah, here's the hose. I get it. You got the hose. Did you see that she circled hose on the thing?

Is this a gardening tool referred to as a hoe? Yeah. That's a hoe. Well, I can use this because I have plants. Keep that in the car in case somebody gets a little lippy in traffic. Too lippy. I do have something in the car For people I get a little lippy

You gotta keep something in the car When they get a little lippy Like when you get my car you can see it Yeah when they get a little lippy At the red light It's like just hold that up Easy reach Yeah just hold that up

At the window like listen pal I mean I appreciate the comedy I mean She didn't have to go all the way To Lowe's to get this but That's the funnier part I do appreciate it She sent you a hoe and a hoe

She circled hos on every product That's creative though That's a lot of like that I mean he's just He did just buy a house, so I feel like that is stuff that he could use. The hoe I could really use. The rake in a hoe? Yeah.

In a piece of fertile ground. Yeah. That's a song in elementary school. He had to be there in the 90s. Is this her? Yes, that's her. Oh, shit. This is a real news.

That's a real news. A fire one, though. Very tasteful and artsy. Like, was this professionally done? I guess so. Who took the picture? Someone took the self-timer? I found that out.

I was always wondering. I was one of those insecure guys that would be like, she's not taking those photos by herself on vacation. No, they are. I didn't know that. They have tripods and timers. I had no idea. I had no idea.

It's all kind of shit going on. I just assume they had a boyfriend. I saw something where they have an actual drone. Those are natural? No. I don't know. Some quality teeth. Can you look on the back of the picture?

She signed a picture. She put an autograph on the table. Oh, so you guys have seen this news. No, you literally just pull it out. Yeah, it's right there. Oh, it just says happy belated. Oh, okay. Oh, so she knew.

She said the nude and just put happy belated birthday on the back of it. I thought that was going to be the real poem. No, our tities are the poem. Okay. Okay, well, thank you. So shout out to Rachel with the nice titty. Well, not, don't say our name. Nice titty, Rachel.

Nice titty, Rachel. Who what? That's called nice titty rach. Nice titty, Rachel. I appreciate that. I did not receive any birthday nudes, so that does make me feel. Like somebody. That's the only news.

It's like real life pictures. Yeah. Oh, we got it. We got to up this shit. We got to up this shit. I didn't ask anyone for birthday news. Huh? I didn't ask.

You're not supposed to ask. I can news for my birthday. But I don't have it. Once they know it's your born, you're supposed to just wake up with the tities in your face. But y'all got it like that. I don't have it like that. You clearly do. You clearly got it like that.

She sent you a hose. USPS. It was priority mail too. It was priority. She wanted them tities to get to you. Overnighted the tities? Yeah, she definitely overnighted the taut. The twat is not in this photo, by the way.

She didn't show the twat. No, she has her legs crossed. Ma, please stop. Oh, wait. Oh, it was a tasteful one. She gave you a clashing. No, it's black and white. Black and white nudes are the best.

I don't know if anybody knows that. Black and white pictures are great, but black and white nudes, oh, God. Hold on. I just peep. Because I don't want you out to see it because I don't know if that's, that's, that's, you shouldn't do that with women's nudes that are intended for one person. Shouldn't show them because that's corny. Well, I open it. I know when it was a nude.

Well, you're a woman. she's at a typewriter this is like the classiest new wait what do you mean she's at like a real typewriter oh so that means she's a she's a fucking psycho

she took each letter from the newspaper and pieces it together this is this is gonna be a ransom note eventually yeah she's gonna kidnap me when I find her on IG like hey let's link I see what this is going oh that was nice

well there you go now you guys can introduce yourself who you are welcome to another I'm Mr. Rachel welcome to another edition of the new Rory Amal show I Am All. That's Rory. That's Rory. This is Rory. That's so Rory. That's not known.

That's really funny. That's so Rory. It's the bitches I can see. Did you just remix it? It's so emotional to me. I'm trying to welcome people to the show and I'm pretty sure we're scaring them off. So let's try that again. Welcome to a new episode of New Rory Moll.

I am all. This is Rory. That's the Raven is just a perfect example of women manifesting all the bad things in life. Women love a good manifest and see where it gets them every time. It's a new thing going on that I'm seeing a lot of the women talk about now. It's called the soft life. They're manifesting a soft life for themselves.

They've had too much hard dick. Too much, too much hard times. Too much, too much rough times. They're trying to, the ladies are trying to get past the rough times. They're trying to get more into a softer world, a softer zone where it's peace, it's love, It's, you know, whatever they deem to be quality of life. Do you really want me to explain the soft life to you? What if they're a lot of hard time?

That's what it is, right? It's peace. It's about peace of mind. It's about happiness. A little bit more than that. It's about taking care of their mind, body, and soul. We don't want to do the labor anymore. We don't want to work super hard.

We don't want to work hard. All you've been doing is asking for our money. We want to be taken care of. Has that been that rough? We want to be taken care of. We want nannies. We want fucking maids. We want Pilates.

and brunch and we don't want to split bills that was what the soft life is we're taking our time we're breathing we're not running around the holes are always find a way to just like give a new word for like just slang and pussy look

I was gonna say so my ass Soft life is another word for lazy hope Yeah that's just like it's like no go out there shake that ass get that money you know what I'm saying and provide for yourself but not as well Did you see how Tamaris worded that

we no longer want to do these things like they've done those things before. What is this? Reparations for your mother and grandmother? You didn't do that of the shit. Y'all just got here 20 years ago. Like, what are you talking about? What hard life have women had?

Like, honestly, like a lot of these young women that are like 27, what hard life did they have? More. Some of them, half of them don't have kids. Half of them don't know what it is to get the kids up, get them to school, prepare lunch, pick them up from school, drop them off to basketball practice, soccer practice.

Like... With two jobs? Yeah, so what is the hard life? Like, you're tired of, like, not being able to keep a relationship? No, it has nothing to do with men. It has nothing to do with that. Okay, then who's going to do all those things? It sounds like it has everything to do with it.

Literally the entire. Who's going to fund this soft life? It has a lot. It has a lot to do with, we live in a capitalistic, a capital society. You know, some bullshit's coming. Yeah, whenever they start talking about capitalism, you know what's happening. Because, no, we work, first of all, humans, period, work really, really, really, really hard. We worked to exhaustion.

Not all humans. Not all humans. Many of us. Some motherfuckers is lazy fucks. We know some. But most people are busting their ass. Sure. And so women who are like, I want the soft life.

It's like, I don't want to be rushing to work and then working super hard and then rushing home and trying to make dinner and trying to do all these things. Like, it's just take, I'm taking the time. I'm taking the breaths and I'm just enjoying life. Okay. But you're breathing. Okay. Okay. They want to breathe.

Let's even go with it. I agree. That can get rough. Who is going to do, society needs to continue on? Who is supposed to fill those roles then? Plenty of. So wait, hold on. We're supposed to provide all.

of the bread, then take care of the kids, then do, like, what do you do? No, that's not. That's not what they're saying. What you're saying is women want to do nothing. Exactly. They want to have a nanny to take care of the kids, take care of the house. They want to have a housekeeper. They don't want to clean.

There's plenty of other nations that run. There's plenty of other nations that run. Nations. When they start to my capitalism and nations, go ahead. We have a long-ass work day. Our work date is not need to be this long. It's just for women, though. Men should stay with the work.

It's not just for women. for people, period. Y'all don't, okay. So men can have a soft, wait, we could be in a soft life. Yes, but y'all don't want a fucking soft life. Where are you, out of all people, you, maybe Mall, you do not want a soft life. I agree.

But what is the soft life look like for a man? What does a soft life look like for a man? You live a pretty soft life, mall. Okay, but what does it look like, though? It looks like you come here, you record, you go visit your friends, you have dinner, you go home, you smoke your weed, you sit, kick your feet up,

juice. You are living a soft life. Yeah, but I also have been doing this shit twice a week, sometimes three times a week every week for six years. Okay. But you make room in your life to make sure that you're not working yourself to exhaustion, right? Okay, but I'll work myself to that place

though. Yeah, it took time to be able to have the soft life. It was a hard life before soft life. Yeah. But I'm just saying a lot of these women that I see a saying that's a young 23, 24, 25. It's like, you just started, you just finished high school six years ago. You should either be just finishing college or still studying. Like, so what hard life? You don't want to go to school. You don't want to study. You don't want to work a nine or five?

Like what hard life? And even if you're still figuring that shit out, that's cool. But don't, your solution shouldn't be. I don't want to do anything and have everything given to me. But that's not what the soft life is about. It's not about not what. It's just about not working. It's about not working yourself to exhaustion.

Okay. All right. You know, I can understand that. Living in your feminine energy, not always being masculine and all, like, yeah, just. You know why women are full of shit? Because they want that, right, for all women. What about the nanny? She can't have the soft life?

No. Take in my kids. Clean my house. It's a partnership. It's not for all women. It's just for you. It's a partnership with the girl and the nanny in the housekeeper. Yes.

So what happens when the nanny wants to live us off? Women are good, bro. What I tell you, women will find a way to say these, come up with these phrases and make men feel like shit because it's like, well, why do I even have a hard life to do it? But why are you internalizing that when it has nothing to do with you. No, no, I'm not saying. I just want to know who's going to do this stuff that you don't want to do anymore. That's what I'm saying. As if all women are doing it.

Yeah, the nanny, the housekeeper. And so a male nanny. No, well, no. I don't think there are male nannies. Are they? Yeah, for sure. Really? Yeah, but I'm saying if all women deserve this off life.

Manny's. No, I grew up with Manny. He doesn't take care of kids. Mani was the plug. He takes care of other kids. Manuel? Emanuel. Manuel, he takes care of his kids.

He's damn sure he comes to take care of yours. All right, you know what? I'm just saying. How is this soft life? You guys were just telling me about this. Is this on Instagram? Is this a hashtag? I've been seeing it for months.

I haven't seen it at all. Like a lot of women, they put, you know, when they go on a vacation, they get, you know, they get videos of the water crashing into the shore. And then they post, you know, the soft life is what I'm manifesting for myself. I no longer want to be, you know, stressed. I no longer want to be in toxic relationships, which I can understand. I can understand. Oh, yeah, get all that. Being done with all of those types of things.

But, you know, I just don't, the whole, you know, not working hard. I think you should. Oh, even if you are. are in a position where you have a partner, you have a husband or, you know, somebody that makes a great living for themselves and they take care of you, they wind and down. I feel like as a woman, you should always want something to do every day for yourself and build, like work hard, even if it's a start of business or, you know, start some type of company, charity organization, whatever, just something to give back to do something because you don't,

it sounds good, being able to just wake up every day, not do nothing relaxed. Sounds boring to me. That gets boring. Doesn't sound very fulfilling. Yeah, like you're going to want a purpose. You're going to want to wake up every day and look forward to doing something and seeing something come to fruition that you've actually built. So, I mean, it's good for your mental health. It just keeps you looking forward to do something. But I do understand that people don't want to work hard every day and they don't want to. We, none of us do. Nobody wants to get up every day and have to go do something that, number one, they dread doing.

And I don't think that's that. Humans are here to do that to begin. Yeah, I understand that part. But you should always be working. at something and doing something. I think you just need to figure out what your passions are and not work hard. Work smart. Like I know you don't want to work hard. But why do you feel like you should always be working

towards something? Why do you think it's not okay for you to just exist for a little while? Just because that's working there's always working towards something. It doesn't have to be labor or something with your career. Just something. Just something that keeps your mind moving and your mind you know, building your strength mentally and just because it makes you feel good when you accomplish something.

When you start the task and you end it, it's just a feeling that you get like you're completed something, you accomplish something. So I think every day you should want to accomplish something and work towards something bigger than just yourself. And rest is still working. Yeah. If the rest has a purpose for something else. Like you're resting because you were working.

Yeah. That's why Team No Sleep was the dumbest movement ever. No, you need sleep and rest. Absolutely. And that's part of working. But I do wish for it. soft life for every woman that may be having a hard life. Let me say that. I do wish that, you know, a lot of women have more time for themselves to relax and just enjoy life a little more.

Absolutely. I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm having fun with the whole soft life thing. But I do, I know a lot of women that work hard that are single mothers that have, you know, a lot of shit on their plate every single day. So for women like that, absolutely. Why don't be a single mom to work hard for you to respect the hustle? Well, because single mothers are, I mean, if you don't have kids and you're working hard, that's because you just have a job or something like, but when you have, imagine having a job and then having kids on top of that. Like if you have no kids.

No, I couldn't imagine. That's why I don't have any. This is what I'm saying. So those women in particular, yeah, so those women in particular, the single moms that are raising kids, oh, soft life, please for them. And like I said, for all women. Anybody that wishes and manifesting for a soft life, I hope that you

achieve that. Well, I'm manifesting for my soft life. I want to move to D.C. and commute to work. Is that okay with you guys? That doesn't sound like a soft life. What's in D.C.? Yeah. Well, I love D.C. I would love D.C.

I would love D.C. Chocolate City. Chocolate City. Chocolate Tities. I love it. Because D'Maris wants the brunch and they have the best brunches. Well, Damaris can went down there on U Street and found her African that said he's going to, you know, change her life, put on a jet tomorrow. And that's what she sees for show. But don't fall into that trap that people in their 20s do.

African who? They visit one city. An African engineer. Engineer. You know what Africans love to say they engineer. But I've always, I've been saying since I was a kid that I have a lot of, I have a lot of family in the Maryland, D.C. area. And I always wanted to raise my kids there

because it has the highest concentration of black millionaires. And it's just like there's black people everywhere. It's a beautiful area. And it's gorgeous. You know what else was in D.C.? What? Heroin? Biden. Biden. Biden? Kamala. You're running amok.

Have you seen what they're doing? They're walking a muck because he's very old. Yeah, like they're fucking tearing this country to shit. He's wheelchering a muck. Yeah. Have you seen Kamala and Joey? What they're doing? Oh, God. They're there. What else is in D.C.?

One of the highest crime rates, probably the last. One of the highest homeless rates. One of the highest homeless rates. Is it really? Yeah. Oh, D.C. homeless people, they sleep like at the pro-mo sauce. That's there. Oh, Mamo sauce is definitely there.

So that's a plus. But I like D.C. I always, D.C. has always been one of my favorite cities. I love the townhouses. I love the way it looks like. I can see myself for like a little townhouse. You were in Georgia. You was in Georgetown.

You wasn't in D.C. You drove through Georgetown. You thought, this is like the husband. It looked like the huxdables live over here. Yeah. Go to southeast. Yeah, I know we use that by the waterfronts, the dwarf. What do they call that down there?

The wharf? The wharf. And all of that. I know where you was, no, go to D.C., D.C. Go a little deeper in the city. D.C. is the best city that I think in the United States that hides the hood. Oh, yeah. They hide the hood better than anyone.

Yeah, they have to. Like, even, you know, when you go to other cities, usually by the airport, the hood is over there. So, like, you kind of no matter what have to see the hood. Yeah. D. D.C.'s airports, like, on the water. Yeah. It's next to the Pentagon.

Beautiful. And as soon as you leave the airport, the White House is right there on your left. Yeah. The National Monument is right there. It's the Great Lawn. What are they called? The Great Lawn is there. Well, great manicure to, you know, every blade of grass is even all year round.

I've taken the wrong left in downtown Atlanta. Been like, well, I'm in the hood. Same thing of D.C. I feel like intentionally go there. Yeah. It's tough. But once you're in it, it's hard to get out of it. Yeah.

D.C. is like, once you driving straight for too long. long? Yeah. You got to make a couple turns. If you drive straight for too long, you're going to start to see some shit. That's just how DC is designed. The roundabouts are the weirdest shit ever. I hate the roundabouts in DC. It's like make it right at the second roundabout. It's like, it's five roundabouts in front of me. Where am I going? Well, I mean, it's designed like the Masonic symbol, but that's neither here nor there. Oh, another conspiracy episode? No, no, no. That's next week. Just look at the map. No, I'll get it. It's a Mason sign. I'm with you. There's no reason for a city to be shaped that way.

Listen, I'm with you, bro. I'm with you. But yeah, D.C. I love DC, DeMaris. So, y'all will let me commute. I mean, it's up to you. If you feel like that's something you want to do, yeah. See, here's another thing with DC in New York. It's one of those that you don't realize how far it is until you do the drive. You go, I forgot how fucking far D.C. is.

Yeah. Because when you're in New York, it's like, let me just shoot over to D.C. It's not Philly. And it's far. It can take you five or six hours. Yeah, when you have to be in the city for something, you start to feel it like, especially if you're driving from D.C., that turnpike running the traffic. You get to Maryland, you get to Baltimore. and you're like, I'm almost there.

It's like, oh, wait, this is another hour after this. No, yeah. And then the turnpike. It's deceiving. Yeah. But yeah, if you feel like you could do that commute, absolutely. DC is, I love DC. I'm all jokes aside.

One of my favorite cities. Just don't be one of those people in their 20s that goes to a city a few weekends and it's like, I need to move here. It's like, nah, you just saw, you saw weekend DC. Yeah. You ain't seen Monday through Thursday, DC. Yeah, it gets a little. But you have family there, so I'm pretty sure.

You're good. As long as you have, I think moving to cities where you already have some type of base and foundation of your people there. and now you know where to go for certain things. It was so nice and quiet. My best friend lives in the sticks. It was like nice and quiet. It was like country but not country.

Yeah. If I can live like that in D.C. in those areas, oh, beautiful. D.G. County is great. Beautiful. Yeah, that's where I was at. Food is great. Yeah, beautiful. But like, don't go, don't go to that way because there's, them niggas is there.

Like, remember when South by started to hit? And everyone's like, remember when South by hit and everyone's like, I think, I think I'm going to make that move to Austin. Yeah. No, you saw Sixth Street during Southline. Yeah. Austin is beautiful, though. It's great.

I love it. Austin is a beautiful. I actually would love to live in Austin. I would love to live there. I like it. It's a techie city. You got your nightlife. You got your people.

You got your culture. You got your arts district and all of that. I think I could do that with so many cities for like a month. That's really, I don't know if it's fear or comfortable, comfortability with New York that I'm just like, I know for a fact I could be here forever and be okay. Like there's months that I hate New York.

There's months I love New York. Yeah. I feel like if I go to Miami, I would love it for a month. And I would no longer want to be there. The soft life of men, Rory, would be for us to have homes and condos in different cities and states that we can just spend two months here. Then go and spend two months there. Well, instead of working for all those condos and other places, I'm just going to go by the beach and I'm going to manifest it.

And then that condo is going to appear. I'm going to put all of my wishes in like a bottle. I've always wanted to do this. I'm going to put all my wishes in a bottle and throw them out to the sea and just wait for the universe to return what I ask for. and an abundance. I feel like even though I've contributed nothing to society, I feel like I deserve. I deserve a soft life.

Yeah. Yeah. God damn it, make soft life equal for men too. It's not just a woman thing. It's for men too. Yeah. masculine, heterosexual men deserve a soft life as well as. Thank you. I just want to live in my masculinity. Thank you. I just want to live in it. You want to live in your masculinity? That's not. If you guys would address your family. And dress your feminine side

Because we all have one I dress my feminine side all the time What's your feminine side? Yeah I was gonna say What is your feminine side? The closest I've gotten to addressing my feminine side Is skincare? Is that feminine though?

No, that's just hygiene. Yeah. I think it's being more in touch With your feminine side though Like in skincare I wouldn't put directly Into hygiene Like a dude could shower constantly And be a clean guy

But isn't into skincare He just throws lotion on his face Manicure, pedicure. That's like being. in touch, right? Yeah, you're going to be a soft life. Yeah, see, I've been manifesting this soft life for men. I've been trying to lead this brigade, worry.

You know what I mean? And I've been met with, like, nothing but restraint and men thinking I'm gay because I get a manicure. And I'm just like. Me too, more. What the fuck? I'm trying to give men a soft, we deserve a soft life. God damn it.

You know what's so toxic about women and them wanting us to embrace our feminine side? Anytime I've, like, talk skincare with a girl or, like, she'll be at the house and see my skin. skincare routine or all this stuff I have in my medicine cabinet. They're like, oh, you must fucking mad bitches to know all this. Oh my God.

Or like, yo, what girl taught you this? I'm like, wait, why can I? So what girl taught you that? Google. Everyone has YouTube. You can also go to Sephora and talk to a specialist. A woman. Or you can also go to your dermatologist.

Yeah. My dermatologist is a man. I wish a soft life of Rory and his skin. Yeah. A. Because it... Men should not have alligator skin.

We should have. soft skin. We should fucking exfoliate just like women do. We should moisturize. We should tone. You know what I mean? Like we can Do you guys get waxed? The only thing that should be Is it waxed? Where would I get waxed? You look like you have a hairy back, Rory. I don't at all

actually. Really? That's not even close. That's sick to look at Rory saying you like you have a hairy back. I don't know. A hairy back? Nah, man. Come on. You can't say that about my guy. No. Luckily I don't. Because I would probably feel insecure about a hairy aspect. I can't. I've never gotten waxed. Now a friend of of mine, she tested it on

my arm just to show me how, like, painful it was. From that day forward, I salute any woman that gets a west. Imagine putting it on your balls. Nah. Did y'all ever, why would I want to do that? Why would I want to do that? Huh? Sugared? I know a girl that gets sugar. Is that less painful? No, it's more painful. Yes, it's definitely more. But it takes out more hair, though. I'm not a super hairy guy, though. Like, I don't,

I got the little manscape clippers. Yeah. Well, like a nice Brazilian for you. I don't need a, I'm not, when I go to Brazil, I'll get a Brazilian woman, but I'm not in the Brazilian wax, I'm cool. And I clean it up that, but going bald, like... Yeah, no. It makes your Johnson look bigger. I'm eye with my hair, bro.

I don't need to look like a fucking porn star or a little boy. Yeah. Listen, man, that's just so crazy that DeMara said that, though. We just let that one fly. The Johnson makes your Johnson look bigger. Didn't even want to address it. Yo, you know how crazy that is? Yo, speaking of feminine, embracing my femininity.

Yesterday, I went to go take a bath, right? with lavender. Bracing your feminine side. Washing your hands. Well, you know, I did the whole thing, right? You like candles when you take a... Absolutely. Hell yeah.

Okay. I put the Epsons salt, lavender absent salt in there. Dr. Teals? Dr. Teals. Of course. Got to get the Dr. Teals. It's me. Come on.

I forgot who I was talking to my bat. I had my little bath bomb from Lush and, you know, some bubble bath, right? Just really getting to know yourself. And I look over on the side of my soap tub, and it's like this fucking dark-ass, like, chunks up against the wall and on the floor like spread out. Who shit on your, who shit on your floor? I'm saying like, it had to be basely. Length like this.

And then I see at the end, there's a body wash, a container tipped over and all the soap had run from besides, right? And then I started thinking, who was the last person to use my soaked tub? Where to God it wasn't me? You put everything on me. He just asked the question. No, no, no, no, no, I'm saying it's the matter of. Oh, okay.

It was not me. It was not me. You were the last one. You took a video to evidence. You see how he, now mind you, I took a picture. I spoke to Rory all weekend. You think he mentioned this at all. He waits to be coming to the house.

I just noticed it yesterday. Yeah, see? Because you know, you don't really notice things in your bathroom until you're like laying in your tub and you can look around and shit. It wasn't me. This doesn't do it justice more, but like it was all the way on the back just nasty. It wasn't. And it all fucking dried up and clunky. Why, bro?

See, I don't use this. That's body wash that was from your guest bathroom. Oh shit, that was me. Yeah. I'm so sorry. I didn't know. I didn't knock it over on purpose. For days, it's at you.

That was your birthday was a month ago. Well, he just wished you was off life. Okay. Well, that shit has been sitting there. Oh, yeah. No, I haven't. I didn't know. When I dog sat, I didn't.

I didn't move your bathroom. Because Damaris uses my guest bathroom and I keep soap in there, obviously, for guests. Yeah, that was definitely. And it doesn't leave the guest bathroom. somehow it ended up in my master bathroom on the next to the tub spilled everywhere. That was one, no, that was from your birthday.

Am I allowed to say master bathroom? What do they call you now? I shouldn't use the word master bathroom. Owners bathroom? The biggest bedroom. Owners' quarters? They say the master bedroom and the master bathroom. They don't know.

They don't say no more. I just feel like master and quarters shouldn't come out of my house. Like realtor's don't, they don't really say that no more. What? Really? Nah, they don't. Master's.

Listen, we live in a crazy world. A lot of things are just not politically correct anymore. Well, I mean, it does have a racist history, so... Of course, I get it, I understand, but I mean, I don't... So the owner's quarters? Owners quarters. That almost sounds worse. That sounds worse.

Owners quarters? That's kind of like when I found out the correct term as little people. I felt like that was more demeaning. I didn't want to use it. Dwarf feels worse, too. Dwarf is way worse than me. Dwarf sounds like a fucking Disney on Ice collection. You can't...

Why can't they just be a person? You can't do that. Well, I don't want to call them a little person either. I don't want to call them a little person either. I don't want to call them a dors? whatever their name is. I'm not about to say what's his name. What's her name?

Yeah, like, and I don't know where her name is. Well, if you say no, he can't ride that ride because he's a... He's too short for the ride. He's too short for the ride. He doesn't meet the height requirement. Yeah. I was, I worked on...

He might slip out of the fucking harness. Like, save his life. Yeah, I get it. I worked on a terrible reality show, which I've talked about a few times. With Derek Carr, the comedian. Okay. And one time we were shooting in Washington Square Park

and we had, I'm going to use the correct term, even though I don't like it. We had little people were part of the sketches we were doing that day. And this wasn't progressive, quite progressive times yet. So everyone really didn't know what the proper term was. We just knew we could not use the word midget. So on the radio constantly, they were saying, does anyone have eyes on our special guests?

That's worse. I was like, why, guys, I don't think this is the right way either. Can we get the special guests over here? Like, it's so, because you don't want to offend nobody, so it gets awkward because you don't know what to say. They were the only guests there. Yeah, that's,

they were only guests. So, where are our guests? Remove this special. Where are our guests? Does anybody have eyes on our guests? Also, it was only three of them, and we knew their names.

Yeah. So, I think sometimes we just make things awkward. Because overly woke people and they get like too nervous and become more offensive, I feel like. They overthink it and then they come across as someone that says, very special guests. Like, you're being more condescending and you don't realize it.

Why don't you just talk on an equal level? Right. Instead of trying to feel like this woke, I think they're above us. They're better than us. Oh, man. But yeah, soft life for men, soft life for women. Shout out to that, so raven. Shout out to that's so raven.

I just love to see when the women get behind a new like, excuse not to do anything? Yeah, it's just like a whole new thing now to soft life. But I do like the idea of that. Like, okay, I'm with the soft life thing. Everybody should have a lot of time to relax and take care of themselves and just, you know, enjoy life. So I'm

not mad at that. It's just interesting how women are saying they want to acquire this. Acquire? Yeah, how they want to acquire this soft life. It's like they want to just manifest it. You know who doesn't give a fuck about soft life? Sometimes you got to put in work to, you can manifest all you want. But sometimes you got to put in the work to

acquire that soft life in the later years. You know who doesn't give a fuck about soft life? The bills. Con Edison. Yeah. Bills don't care how soft your life is, fam. The loan I took out from my mortgage.

If I like, hey, I've been going through some things. Yeah. Okay. Well, the bank will be taking this as well. We're going through your files and you owe us some money. Enjoy your soft life on the street. Yeah, that's a fact. You're very soft life on the street.

You don't got to worry about nothing except for getting killed by your sleep. But damn. Yeah, you know it's crazy out here in New York. They'd be doing some wild shit to the homeless. It's crazy. What is Raven Simone doing? Chilling? Making TikToks.

With her wife. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah, she's a stud now. Did we ever get into, like, what happened to everyone on that show? She's a stud, yes. Okay. Does you want to look into the creators of that show?

Of, like, all the cast, kind of having their moments of breakdowns? I mean, Orlando Brown. Which I feel like I saw a recent interview. where he seemed like he was great and coherent. Yeah, he seemed like he was doing good, which I like. Because I didn't like when, of course, I laughed at the first clip like everyone else. But then everyone just started putting a camera on him and exploiting his mental breakdowns. I don't like that shit.

I hate when they do people so bad in their wiki pages, like their first picture. Like, that's a crazy picture of Rano Brown. I mean, that might be on the set of that. Kyle Massey. I don't know what he's up to or the last time outside of Corey in the House. I remember that? No. Yeah,

according to the house was like a spin-off of that's all we're even. Do we feel like child stars are, like, do we have enough evidence to say that

child stars is a bad thing? I would say so, yes. Yeah. Like, more than enough evidence. Like, because you got to think about it. A lot of these kids are, you know, when they're young and they become,

you know, they're cute, adorable kids on TV. Their work schedule becomes not a soft life at all. for these kids. Yeah. You get results like Michael Jackson. I was just going to say that.

Well, talent, but you might get a fucked up individual. Yeah. So do we feel like, because even when I look at movies or shows and I see like an infant, a baby, a baby. Just a little weird to have a baby on setting. Yeah. You're just like. You know what I mean?

Like, this baby is working. Like, this is like, call it what you want. You're getting an hourly pay. Yeah. And it's so it's kind of like, we're the parents that just decided, you know what, Take our newborn and let's just... I was watching... That's so funny you brought it up.

I was watching... I think it's called Candy on Hulu. Yes. Really good fucking series. That's with a... I like her. Jessica Biel. Jessica Biel.

So they're going into... I won't give away too much, but it's to the child actor thing. They're going into the funeral for the woman that was murdered. And her daughter is walking in. And when I say this child actor gave a fucking Oscar-winning cry

down the fucking church aisle to the casket, I was like, like Merrill Streep who? This fucking six-year-old just body this cry. And then I started thinking, is that going to fuck that girl up eventually? To be able to have that young sponge mind to teach her,

and I'm sure she has natural talent as well, but to be able to do that on cue with a brain that's still developing might fuck her up in the long run. Yeah, six years old, that's like, that's a little, you know, we don't look at it, they're crying, and he's like, okay, cool, but like you said, that can be a traumatic thing.

She was too good at it. Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that, man. Well, somebody got to do it. Well, also, we have evidence that child stars end up a little fucked up. You know, we have even more evidence, how fucking profitable they are. Oh, yeah. So it's not going to stop. Do you see all the Olson twin movies there were?

Yeah. That was crazy. And now they're, I mean, I don't know what they're up to now, but they look so out. They've made a lot of money. They made a lot of money. But I think just socially, people become very awkward when they're child stars. Obviously, we can pretty much. every one of the child stars that we know.

It's just like, I don't know. I think we need to look more into that. Well, I mean, that was a big part of the King Richard movie when all the tennis coaches were pissed that he was just like would cancel practice. They're going to Disney World. They're going to go to school. They're going to be kids.

I'm not going to have them fucking cracked out like these other tennis players that turn pro at 16. Yeah, it's, we got to, you know, because a lot of these things have just been kind of like the norm for years. It's been going on and, you know, parents have kids and go, I'm going to put my daughter in modeling. Going to put her into acting. We're going to put her beauty patterns. And that's, you know, that beauty page.

We all. We talk. That's sick. That's the nastiest thing I've ever seen. You know, I understand that, you know, you feel like you have a kid. And, you know, sometimes you see your kid. Like we have relatives. We see our nieces, our nephews, our cousins.

And we're like, yo, this kid has a lot of personality. Yeah. You can tell from a young age, some kids just have a lot of personality. But sometimes when a kid is just really good at something that young. I think the parents, you know, it's kind of like, well, while he has it or while she has it, let's keep pushing them and let's keep moving forward and let's keep sending them to, you know, to set, to act. And it's just like, but what about this kid being a kid, though? Like right now, this kid is working. Call it what you want.

This is work for this kid. This kid has to be on set at a certain time. This kid has a, you know, if it's a young tennis player, he has to practice, he has to travel for games, exhibition matches. They usually love it, though. They usually love it. Who loves it? The kids, almost every child star I met have said that as they were kids.

How many child stars have you met? Oh, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is D dog. You don't know what? You know what? Let me retract my statement. Not that I've met, but that I've, that they've come out and said that though. That they love it. Well, kids, because.

It's fun to them. Yeah, at that, at a young age, it, I can see how kids, it's like, you know, they. It's a lifetime opportunity. Yeah, it's like you, you know, you're acting. You know, like I said, a lot of these kids have a lot of personality. They, they belong on a stage. You can just tell it with certain kids, like, this kid just has it. But I think you, as parents, it's very important to keep a balance.

Yeah. Of like, you listen, we're not doing none of this for a while. We're going to go to school. We're going to, you know, travel. We're going to be around family, kids, friends, you know, whatever. Just to keep it kind of a balance of life and work. Like, it's okay to work and love something to be passionate. But like you said, soft life.

Like, enjoy it. You know, enjoy just being able to just be around people and travel and experience the world and see different cultures and things like that. because, you know, you get caught up in this world of just performing, performing, performing, or, you know, being an athlete and just, you know, working out, training and then, you know, playing your sport. It's like... You don't even get to, you don't even get a time to really process everything to be.

Yeah, you don't even, you lose, and you lose sight of who you are as a person. Now you become who they want you to be. I can speak from experience, and I think my mother balanced it well with me and my child fame. I try to keep it under wraps. This one time I modeled, it's like an LL Bean. And like I was in one of the photos and like it caused a lot of pandemonium in my life. And I got recognized in the street.

I'm just glad you got over. My mom was really good about. Yeah. Right. Now that I think about it, that might have been child slave labor because I did a whole, my mom knew somebody. Yeah. For whatever magazine it was. The whole campaign.

And they needed, no, it was just one picture. Okay. The actual real model that was modeling the clothes, it was like moms on the go for like sports. Like you can wear this to the basketball game. Yeah. So they dress me up in like a Little League outfit. And she was like picking me up in her like Ann Taylor Lofsuit. Do we have a picture of this?

I can 100% find the photo. Yeah, we need to find us photo. Without question. No, it's in my mother's house. She actually has it framed. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

We can get definitely get a photo. I'll ask her on the way out of show. Yeah. Cause I can photo a bit. Thank you. But now in retrospect, now that I know about like union laws and. Yeah. And I've been on sets.

It was about an eight hour day. And I got paid with two movie tickets. That's great. Oh, man, they got you for cheap. They got you for cheap. Or they paid me and my mom never let me see that money. No, yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's definitely what happened. Probably both. Nah, they might have said exposure. Well, what the thing? I got paid with an exposure. Parents, and I get it. You know, parents, they just want to put their kids in something and keep them active and keep them busy and, you know, set them up for soft life, if you will. But, yeah, you got to be careful, man, because a lot of these child stars, you look at them when they get older, it's just always some shit.

Of course. DUI and you know depression and drug addict and it's like yo this was like a really sweet kid at one point like what happened I mean you gave them money attention fame lifestyle and career path

that's already fucked up as is and then you say figure it out 13 year old you'll be fine but does it happen when like they lose that fame you think that's when the spiral happens when they're not as in demand as they were as a child I think that's a lot of people don't know how to handle it that like damn as a kid i was fucking working you know all the time now as an adult i can't get

casted for anything naturally i think that heightens it but they're exposed to it at the height of their success like linds low and i don't even tell you when she was a kid she was up with parties with people's doing coke and shit when she was 13 14 like she's exposed to those habits at that time and obviously those habits when things are going fucked up get even worse so yeah you're in hollywood that's a devil-worshipping place That's a shit that first came out by like Nickelodeon and Disney stars. Like I feel like they really are always having eyes on them no matter what. Like Raven.

Rest in peace. Lee Thompson. Famous Jed Jackson. Yes. Even had a great career after his childhood shit. And of course I'm not going to just automatically say it had to do with him being a child star. But obviously he had some mental issues. And I just don't think child fame kind of helped him.

in dealing with those things and unfortunately killed himself. Yeah, that was, and you know it's funny, I saw him maybe like six months before that, at, um, what diners that on, 23rd? Is that Chelsea? Chelsea, Dinah? Yeah. So I met Chelsea Dinah on 23rd. She was like, maybe like six months before that happened.

Then they got the news that he committed suicide. That was like, damn. Yes, wow. And I mean, I think he tried to do like the normal life too. He went to USC. I know he's my frat brother. That's why, like, no weird college. details about him. But I think he tried to do the regular shit after the child fame shit. He gave

an attempt, but who knows after that? I can only imagine there's just such conditioning they do before you're 18. Before you're 18. Because I don't know if you guys have seen just other stars right when they turn 18 like Miley Cyrus. When they turn 18, they switch up their whole shit, or at least marketing-wise they do. Yeah. Well, it depends where they want to go. I mean, we even see it, let's hope, in a healthy way. I haven't seen it otherwise, but what the fuck do we know? We talk about Chloe all the time. They had to get her out of this child

fame shit, so let's make her a fucking real woman. I'm not saying she isn't one, but as far as how they're marketed, like, this is a grown woman, that sexual, etc. Right. That's what they have to do. And sometimes that's done in a marketing way, and sometimes that shit is just done

on your fucking own. And now you're Lindsay Lohan running a fucking muck in Long Island in Manhattan with access money and enablers around you. Well, praise to all childhood stars that are now adults that are having problems, real life problems. One day if you guys get a chance, look into Drew Barrymore's story. It's like, it's crazy. Like she used to be in like Studio 54 at like nine where her mother was like encouraging her to like dance with like young men and stuff like that. She was on hooked on drugs and alcohol by 13.

tried to kill herself by 14 and was hospitalized, like crazy. Like, they just had her like out. Studio 54 at 9 years old, bro. The Studio 54. Yeah, that's cool. Just chilling regularly. Like, they knew her as a regular. I don't care that you was in E.T.

Like, get this little girl out of here. Phone home, like now. Seriously. She's in an E.T. right? Yeah, that's great. Yeah. Yeah, at 5. She's in an ETA. Crazy.

Yeah, so what music were you listening to this week in Rory, if any at all? I was still on Kendrick. I do want to revisit. Not that one week is the determining factor of replay value. But with how heavy that album is and that narrative and the things that he was talking about, there are songs on there that you listen to on that first listen and we're blown away, but probably won't go back to listen to again. I'm still listening to the album.

I think it's sounding better as the days past. It's a lot. I've seen people saying a lot of songs that have replay value. I don't know what songs listen, so I think Father Time has replay value. I think Die Hard. I think Rich Spirit is crazy. Purple Hearts with Summer and Savior has a lot of replay value. Savior is crazy.

Silent Hill with Kodak is crazy. I feel like out of like the really heavier records, Father Time might be the one with the most replay value. Like obviously we cry together. I don't think that was meant for replay value to begin with. I agree. Rich Spirit is the one I think to me that's definitely like heavy replay value. Like Auntie Dyers and Mother Is Sobra, I love.

I just act to be in the right space for those. They're not as universal as the other. But the album, the album still sounds amazing. Yeah, for sure. Every day, I've been playing the album every day. It's just an amazing album. The Savior record, I think, is the next one that's going to really take off. I agree.

I'm curious to see what they do post-promo with video. and everything that Dave and Kendrick want to do. But I still love it. I did see people complaining because that's just what people do. I mean, everyone, you guys were prisoners of the moment. How do you like it now? I'm like, I still like it. But I do see some point of there being a few records.

I still stand behind what I said. It's a classic album to me. I don't think, I don't, this is something that I think a lot of people are going to look at him. Like, he's definitely the artist that is. in a whole other league. He's not, we can't, a lot of artists can't do what Kendrick did with this album.

Of course not. They can't make the songs he did. I think that the way he talked about therapy, or the things he talked about, we talked about already therapy and, you know, addressing family trauma and things like that.

I think he did it in the way, the Savior record, he named all of these people that we look up to, you know, that he's not your savior. Left Drake up. Even in the bar, he said, Tupac is dead.

Like, you got to live for yourself. Like, it's like, you know, what are you? You know what I mean? Like, it's like shit like that. Like, stop looking up to these people that you think of your savers. It starts with you. Like, you got to make change. You got to do the right shit. You know what I mean? So I think that the album is great. I think it's aging very well. I think there's still a bunch of records that are

going to take off from this album. I just think people are listening with damn ears because damn was every record could stand alone or you could listen to it all the way through super uptempo and a lot of stuff. This is just not that. And you can't listen to it with damn ears. Yeah. They're two completely different albums. I was listening to the hit girl album, Dreezy and Hit Boy. Shout out to Dreezy and Hit Boy. Super dope project.

In touch with Jeremiah is probably one of my favorites on it, phases. It's good to see Dreezy in the studio working with a producer like Hit Boy. For sure. I always felt like Dreezy was one of the most talented artists in the game. She had the record I loved years ago with T. That was super hard. She rap, she sings. Dreezy's fire.

I think she's super, super dope. So it's good to see her with a producer like Hit Boy, lock in on a project, create a sound. Yeah. And, you know, and put it out because, you know, to me, I think that's what a lot of artists need to do. They need to sit with the right producers and find their sound. Find what they sound like.

Find what their core is and work on that. And I think, obviously, Hit Boy is, you know, easily the hottest producer in the game right now. So to see Dreesey getting in the studio and put a project, out with Headboy was dope. I didn't even know that that was coming, honestly. Neither did I until they started doing the promo. That's what I think Dreezy's been missing because they've, I want to say single chasing, but you could tell the major has been trying to find a record. Trying to find a sound. And I think she's too talented for the let's search

for a single shit. Of course that can work, but she needs to actually lock in and get a body of work and work a record that the fans pick. Like, what's the best record off this full project? Then we'll work that one. Hit girl, Dreasy. Shout out to Dreasy. Shout out to Hit Boy. Super dope project. If you haven't downloaded it yet,

I think you should check it out. You like that. So the Marlon Kraft album, which I told you last episode. Marlon Kraft, check that out. Yeah. That you can listen to with Kendrick. It's a good, I guess, parent.

I wouldn't have found that if it wasn't for you. Marlon is nice. Yeah. He could like rap for real. And it doesn't come off. He's like the perfect mix where it's not too logic. Like, it's not too, like, he could really, really rap. It's, like, calm down.

There's still some human aspect to him rapping really well, if that makes sense. So step up from Jack Harlow as far as bars, but I'm not saying, I know Jack is making song songs and probably might dumb his shit down. Marlon is a perfect mix of that. Like, he can make records and really rap. I want to start a white-on-white crime for you real quick. I'm staying out of this beef. All right.

Because that's how they're going to compare. I'm realistic. Russ or Jack Haller? Ooh, love this. Is that hard? Yeah, is that difficult? Curly versus Curly. I'm just trying to figure it out for you.

I think Russ has more wavy hair than he does. I agree. Curly hair. I think this is very simple. Very obviously, Russ. And yeah, I think it's Russ and I don't even think it's close. But I don't know if there's a fair comparison for them two outside of just being white. Yeah.

Why is it not a fair comparison? They're two totally different artists with totally different objectives, with totally different careers. Yeah. they angled. Their successes are different. And it's not a slight to Jack at all. I'm talking just from the artistry. I'm not talking about everything around the music.

I'm talking about sound. Then I'm, then it's even easier for me. And this isn't, again, a slight to Jack. I think there's going to be drastic improvement with him. And I see what he's trying to do. And I see why he had to make the album that he made. Because I feel like he's wrapped better than. It was a good out.

It was. It was for the younger generation. It was the perfect. I have my coming out party. first album. I feel Jack has rapped way better before than he has on this album, but I get why he did it. Now, you're saying just from an artistry

standpoint, you have Russ is an extremely underrated writer. He can wrap his ass off, he can sing, he could make beats. Yeah, I just think it's just a way different. I was just listening to both of them over the weekend. I was listening to Jack's album, and I was

listening to Russ's, the one he just put out and the one before that. chomp too. And I'm listening and I'm like, I wonder how many people like Jack more than they like Russ. That's just an interesting thing. Jack is more likable. Well, I think I think that Russ is because Russ has created his own world and his own bubble that he operates and he does, he's an independent artist. He runs his own company and shit like that. He doesn't really look to the machine. He doesn't go after the big. name producers like that.

He doesn't, you know what I mean? Like he does a lot of shit in-house. I think that with Jack is on the complete opposite side of that, he's had the Farrell production and, you know, all of the big features and things like that. But just listening to them too, I was like, I wonder how many people feel like like like Jack more than they like. Well, Jack has been marketed whether he's a, I'm sure he's a good dude.

I'm sure he's a good person. The few interactions I've had with him, he's very nice. He's been marketed. as the sweetheart as well. Like this really nice guy. That's likable. He doesn't fuck with anybody. And Russ unintentionally has marketed himself, which we talk.

I talked with him. Like, do you ever thought that maybe it's your delivery and maybe it's your face that upsets people coming from you? He's positioned himself. He likes that, actually, I think. I don't think he intentionally set out for this. I think he believes hold hardly everything he's. saying about the music business and I agree with them.

I think he thought because he's saying the truth and the right things, it would be received well. And instead, people sometimes get more mad at the messenger and don't listen to the message. Because like, why are you saying that? So, and he comes up, he talks, I don't say aggressive, but he comes off abrasive and in many cases. So I don't think he set out to be like, I want to be a villain. I don't think Russ wants that.

I think Russ wants to be liked. he just which I suffer from too say the right thing in the wrong way and you kind of come across as an asshole whereas Jack I think

has been positioned and is really well of becoming this extremely nice guy everyone likes him if you got a problem with Jack there's something wrong with you type shit so they're different

in that regard yeah I think they are different I think as as an artist I like Russ Russ's music a little more I think Jack is very talented and I think that he will have a great, a great career.

But I think as of right now, I think I like Russ. I like Russ more. Russ is also my age, right? Russ is like 32, 33 maybe. Which is probably why I relate more. It's 29. Okay, but 29? Yeah.

Because Jack is what, 23, 24? Damn, Russ ain't even 30 yet? But there is a, that gap from 24 to 29, whether you know it or not, is a huge gap as far as as life perspective. Yeah. So I get like. I probably identify and relate to a lot more of the shit that Russ is saying. Right.

That's what Jack is like age demographic wise. Jack is definitely a very now artist, TikTok heavy, everything. But I like that you try to, don't pin us against each other. Right. That's what this culture's bent on. Y'all have been pinning us against each other. Don't divide and conquer us. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I just trying to just asking the questions, man. I just want to know how many people feel like Jack might be a better rapist in Russ. So, you know, just like to see what's going on out there what the conversations are. You know, it does happen to me a lot in this music industry. Not even like the work part of it, but just like the culture itself. And it makes me, and they're going to say I have white guilt,

makes me hate a lot of white people. Because I'll be out and like, I'll be probably the only white person in the venue. And then like another one will come in and like speak. Like, yeah, we got to like stick together, bro. And I'm like, I don't even know you. You know, you don't have to go. Yo, what's so, bro?

I hear a lot about you. Like, yeah. And it's a, it has a weird undertone where I'm like, I don't know you. Right. Think I'll stick with my friend. He just happens to be black. I don't know you. That's hilarious.

Little Baby tweeted that his album is coming in July. I saw that with a question mark on the actual date. Yeah. I'm looking forward to that. I think that Little Baby is, he's the artist that's at that point where he is getting ready to take the next step up. Yeah. his career. I think he's obviously the hottest. If not, if not the hottest, he's one of the hottest rappers right now. He's been killing everything, all his features. The record he put out,

I think, in a minute, is that what it's called? In a minute. That's her question. That's her boo. Wait, who, why is everybody my boo? He's your little baby. He's your little baby. He's your little baby. I like little baby, but no, that's not my boo. That's Jade a man. In a minute? Yeah, in a minute. He absolutely floated all over that fucking track. So I want to hear what a little baby's going to do. I think that he has all of the, everything is aligned for him right now to take off and become a superstar. I mean, his last album, was it two or three years ago?

Mm-hmm. Was one of my favorite of the year of that year? I think that was 2020, 2020. What's his last time? 2020, 2020? I think it was independent. Yeah, my turn was 2020. I think so.

Yeah, that was one of my favorite of that year. So, yeah, I'm looking forward. to a little baby does. Like I said, he has everything aligned for him right now. You know, he's the go-to guy right now. I mean, I'm nervous about this release with everything that's, not to say he's connected to any of it all, but he is connected as far as friendship and cruise

with everything that's happening in Atlanta right now. Clearly, that shit is not for play-play. Yeah, no, it's getting serious. It's getting serious as the weeks past. We're getting more and more information that was just reported today. I think that they, denied Gunner's bail and his court date

his next court date has been set for January January 9th, 2020 yeah somebody reported and again this is just somebody reporting on Twitter she was just in the court where judge denied bond for Gunner and set his trial date for January 9th, 2023. Prosecutors

alleged Yassel is a gang not just a record label. They also alleged Gunner serves and command in a command role more to come for billboard. So yeah Man, so unfortunate what was going on right now with, you know, with the young guys and with Gunna and Thug and the whole Yassel prayers to them, man. What's Gunner's exact charge, though? Because I know it's different than Thugs.

I feel like it was lesser. Wasn't just a straight up RICO. Well, no, they're all under the, a RICO charge. Yeah. But, um. He's charged with a single count of conspiracy to violate Georgia's racketeer, influence, and corrupt organizations. Okay. Yeah.

So one count of RICO. Yeah. But what, and what's under that RICO is murder? So I guess I see why I can get bond. Yeah. And there's in the 56 count indictment. So there's 56 other counts of other stuff. Well, I know they have the lawyer can appeal for Bond again, I think, before January.

Curious, once they get more of the discovery, it'll be easier for him to get Bond as far as what he did in the Rico. Try. Listen, man, I'm going to be honest. This shit looks bad. It looks very bad. This shit looks really, really bad, man. And it's fucked up because you talk about some talented artists. You talk about some very successful artists that employ a lot of people that take care of a lot of people, families.

Like, why? He's not a flight risk. Yeah, but it's just, you know. He has one you could put up for bonds. Like he's. But that's what that's, you know, listen, man, this justice system, you know, we don't even have to talk about that. But it's just, you know. And if they're saying, and this, I don't think it's true at all, that Gunner would be the one telling people to go murder people.

if that's why they would deny bail because he could order someone to do something, he could do that from jail too. So like what is the purpose of not allowing him bail to continue to at least run his company for so many other people until January? Yeah, but if they feel like this company is a criminal organization, what company are they letting you out to run? You know what I'm saying? So it's, listen, man, it's bad.

You know what I mean? It's no way we can't dance around it. We can't. This situation is fucking terrible. It's a bad. It's one of the worst 50 cents. He tweeted that he put out. He would rather catch a homicide case than to catch a Rico charge.

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like this is not something to play with. This is not a joke. It's a prove less than the Rico. Yeah. Like this is, this is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. Like, you know, we just got to be honest with ourselves.

Like we've seen this before. And, you know, it's just a fucked up situation because, again, it's, It's people that, you know, we support and we like and, you know, we, in our culture that we just look at and we say, okay, these dudes are talented and they're having a lot of success. But, you know, it's being alleged that it's a criminal organization and all these other things. And now they, you know, they've been investigating for years. Everything that's being reported is that they've been following these guys and they have, obviously somebody is telling. Somebody's giving them information that cops don't do a great job. People just do a great job at telling.

Like, we know. Cops want the soft life. Yeah. They want to be getting, and they want to do investigation. They get you in the room and they tell you, look, listen, you're going to do 30 years. And if you're a guy that, you know, you was just hanging around these guys every now and then and you went to a couple shows, but, you know, you got a regular little job and you just decided to, you know, do some wild shit at night. They're going to put you in the room and say, okay, listen, you're going to go do these 30 years?

They're not doing it. We know how this goes. We all from these same communities, these neighborhoods. We've had people involved with federal cases. We have family members involved with cases. but before, we know how this shit go. They're going to tell you, never going to see your family again. And you know what's going to start happening.

People are going to start cooperating. They're going to start talking. They're going to start telling. And then before you know it, everything falls down. Everybody's in prison doing a whole bunch of time. And it's unfortunate because you have people attached to this shit that's super successful, that's super talented that, you know, it's, you know, so to think that they're going to be taken away from their families and their, you know, their loved ones and their employees

and, you know, the people that they staff and this. It's fucked up, man. And if nobody tells, then that's when they add the family in. Oh, you sent your money, sent your mother 30K. She's not part of it. So your mom's going to do a bit? Bro, listen, let me tell you something, man. This is not something to be taken lightly.

She's doing time, too. This is a very, very serious situation that these guys are in. And, you know, I'm praying for the best for them. I hope for the best for them. But, you know, it's a fucked up position, man. It's a fucked up situation to be in. Can we talk about how DeMaris is the feds? Is she the Feds?

Yeah. Well, she's a woman, so. That's immediately detective. Yeah. Detective DeMaris. Please explain for your listeners because, you know, I'm from the hood. I don't play all that fed shit. So how am I the Fed?

We don't think you're actually an officer of the law. All right, cool. But you have Fed tendencies. Well, DeMaris came in here with an interesting thing. She asked us a question. She said, hey, guys. Just like that, too. Yeah.

Hey, guys. Come like me. Have you ever had a number. that wasn't in your phone call you and you just take the number and put it in Zell or Cash app and then the name pops up and then Rory looked at me with a look that I haven't seen

since maybe the look on Kaiser's Associate's face when that's what you landed on? Like you just gave me this look like holy shit. Like when man discovered fire. Yeah like how the fuck did we never do? Like women

are fucking detectives and every sense. I think it's in their DNA. I think women just have this ability to detect, to investigate, to find the answers without even really giving it any thought. It's just like an automatic thing where they just find out the truth. And I've Googled numbers before. Yeah. It doesn't work. No. And I'm not doing that a pay fucking $20 to get everything. The furthest men go is what area code is 416? That's the closest men. We stop right there. We ask for area code, every guy gets his phone Google, oh, it's Toronto. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, we don't know.

And actually, no, sometimes I go a step further. If I get the area code, I will ask someone either from there or in my group chat, yo, does anyone have this number in their phone, like in their address book? Or you say, let me see your phone and you'll dial the number to see if it pops up. Yeah. But even that, I don't care that much. Right. That's so obvious and brilliant to just type it into Venmo or Zell or Cash App. Demarest, how did you, when did you discover that you had this ability to take the number and put it into cash app or zeal and just the name would be right there.

And have you zeled them by accident? It's kind of like a girl thing. Like we just, I don't know. It's kind of like information shared amongst girls. Like one day you're just like, who the fuck is this texting me? Like some girl was like something like text me some weird shit, whatever or some guy. And my sister was like, just put it in it. No, my sister did it.

She's like, I put it in cash app and this is her name and this is. That's funny. Do women have, do y'all have like annual meetings amongst each other where y'all just like, um, give this information of like, okay, this is, this is how we can move the female, uh, community forward in our journey through relationships and dealing with men and their bullshit. No, we just do that every brunch, every Sunday. Every Sunday. That makes sense, brunch.

See, at brunch, we just eat. Yeah. And drink. And we asked, we talk about the game, you know, Jimmy Butler did perform well last night. Uh, we talk about maybe what we got going on in the week. You know, we don't sit down and say... The Lord. Yeah, we talk about God, maybe.

Put that in there on a Sunday. That works. But we just, we don't ever say, how can we as men... Catch our women? Together become better at dealing with women and the things that we have to do. Every time a future album come out. No, I'm not standing by that. Because women call him more than guys do.

He's y'all toxic king. Yeah, yeah, he's not ours. Like, we look at... future like, Damar's Hendon. This is a real thing that we, us men look at Future like, okay.

You might be a little more emotional than when we thought, dog. Super emotional. You might love your bitches more than we thought. We thought Fusion was just gang, gang,

hoos, hoes. Future love his bitches. For sure. Future love his bitches. He gives them children. Yeah, yeah, he loves his bitches. If I hit you once, you still in my,

what do you say? You stole my trophy? My collection. You still in my collection. That was sick, by the way. And I feel like men at brunch, anything in regards to women is,

dude will tell us to be like, yeah, nah, she's crazy, bro. You got to leave her. That's as far as it. Or, yo, her ass got fat. Like, we stop right there. Like, we don't say, yo, listen, man,

if, you know, they're storing names. They're storing the guy's names under this now. We don't never have that information for each other. No. Like, we just stop it. Yo, her ass getting fat. Or she fucking with this new dude. Like, me might go there.

Like, yo, I heard she's talking to homeboy now. Like, oh, okay, that's, you know. Or X, Y and Z was bugging. Yeah, like, oh, yeah, she said she tweeted some shit the other day. Like, yo, she was tripping. Like, well, look at this picture. This is the second time I've learned something with phones from women accidentally. Last time was last year, right?

I was talking with this girl and we were about to leave her crib. And she's like, oh, fuck. I told my friend I couldn't hang out tonight. She asked me to, like, she has my location. So, like, I can't go out with you. And she's see, because we check each other's location all the time. And I told her that I had to stay in. I should do is leave her iPad at home.

Bro. She switched. She switched her location. to her iPad and left her iPad in her home and then walked out of her crib with her phone. Unlocatable. I was... I didn't even know unlocatable was a word. Neither did I.

I just found it out. Good job. And then months down the line, I had her location and she had the nerve to say to me, but you've had my location the whole time. Where would I be? This line... I just watched you finesse your own best friend in this. I know I'm expendable

Like you will do that to me immediately Wow I never I blew my mind Women see And I think that's why men are hurt more When they find out about their woman cheating Because it's so much thought

And so much like You know They just make sure They cross all their T's and dot all their eyes It's just like Women cheat And you will never know Until like

you find out everything. It's not like you find out a piece. Yeah. When you find out a woman that's cheating on you, you know the entire landscape of the cheating. Well, I just think men

were more naive and immature. Like, we really believe in Santa Claus. That's why it hurts so much when you find out that this fat white man didn't go down the chimney. It's like,

but my whole life, this way really, this is not true. Yeah. That's how we look at women and monogamy. Wow. We think,

we are raised to think women are actually, despite society's norms, that women are somewhat better than us when it comes to relationships and they're more loyal, they don't cheat, the women aren't supposed to have mad partners. So we get that conditioned in our head. Not thinking that they're actually human beings. Yeah. Right.

That would do the same shitty shit that we do. Right. So it just stings a little bit more. Like, nah, you're not supposed to do that. Yeah. Wow. It hurts. Damn, man.

Man, we got to. What the fuck did I have to do with this? What are they talking about at the rock brunch, a rock nation breached? I feel like the Rock Natchinian brunch should have covered this over the French toast and the fruit. You heard lemonade? It was talked about. French chose fruit and lemonade. Women, boy, I tell you, man.

But that's why you need more women friends because I learn these things. I pray I catch you whispering and I pray you catch me listening. Like, y'all don't, y'all wasn't listening to lemonade like that. No, that wasn't our Bible. We listened to it, but we didn't break. See, even that was cold. That was, we had to decode that. Men couldn't just get that off the top.

Break, break that bar down. You have to decode that. It's like, oh, okay, I get it. Women pay attention to everything. I had a cool question for men since I got so many questions for me. Why y'all start being mean when y'all cheating? Men be so mean when they cheating. Because we don't need you.

Like, they get an attitude and shit. They get some new pussy and they got a little funk in they walk. You're disrupting my cheating. Yeah. You don't care about my happiness? Because I love her. That's why you're still here. Like, dump me already.

That's why men are mad when they cheat. They're in love with the other one. You're still here trying to make this word. No, I'm over this. Dump me already. So I don't like the bad guy. Yeah, dump me, break up with me, get your shit, get out. So I can live happily ever after with my girlfriend.

And then do the same thing to her. It's the cycle of life. It just keeps on giving. Like, we keep living, we keep cheating. Is that true, though? That happens a lot. They get duplicity and they get a little, they start filling themselves more. They get their confidence, but women do the same thing.

You may not see, because this is, and this is weird. hurts the guys the most. This is where it hurts us. Y'all may not have acted on the cheat yet, but you know you for sure going to give him that pussy soon. And then y'all start acting all like, you know, like, yeah, I mean, if you want to go out, go ahead.

Oh, if you don't want to go to the gun, all right, whatever. Oh, that's my bag. I'd be like, you know, if I ask for something, you fuck around and say, nope, right. No problem. See, that's fucked up. See, that's fucked up. Like, women, y'all can't, y'all shouldn't do that.

Y'all shouldn't, y'all can't go, y'all can't, because that's cheating too. Like if you, if you ask your boyfriend or your husband or somebody, whatever you guy you're dating for something. We already talked about this with the car scenario. Yeah, like, if you ask him for something and he's like, nah, I really can't do it. Like, going to get it from another guy, that's, yo, bro, that's a different level of hurt to a guy. Like, that right there is like, like, I were. Like, like, I didn't get that for you. Like, where you got that from?

Right. And you're like, I'm not. Like, I got it for myself. because she knows that's a $10,000 purchase. You did not get that for yourself. What was his name? But I still feel like part of the Santa Claus

coming out thing can happen outside of your relationship. Like there's been times I've been innocently talking to a girl. You know, harmless flirt here and there and she's loyal, faithful, all that shit says she has a man, cool, nothing, never goes over the line.

But the moment they break up, it's like I was just put on the back burner in case the breakup happens. And then within 48 hours, the line is being crossed. And I'm sitting there like, is this kind of cheating? Because like, you might as well go do it if you want to do it but aren't doing it because I just would feel weird. Just one text away, honestly. No.

Yeah. Because at that point, I don't know if I'd like that my girl, if it happens, cool. But like, you have the one already sitting. the dick in the glass box to break open in case of emergency shit if your girl show up with a Rolex on I'm shooting somebody you say you're shooting somebody you can't do that

I'm gonna get it appraised I'm gonna whip your ass now you're like why y'allel my Rolex I'm gonna whip your ass but why y'all always gotta fix your head now that you got a Rolex on wait what same reason they have to

they have to adjust their bathing suit in every photo oh okay with that hand though Yeah, like, it's like, why y'all always got to fix your hair all over a sudden? Same reason their neck hurt every time they're getting the rolls. I've never, like, I've never, you never drove in the car like this. It can't sit down or a son. In my Mazda, you, you're like this. Now you're in a rose.

No, and your Mazda, they don't even take pictures. Yeah, now your head look like T.I's hat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, women, y'all are ooh. Y'all are ooh. Y'all know how to hit men where it hurt. Y'all know how to sting a man. Like, y'all know how to hit that button where it's like, I'm going to fuck

his whole existence up with this one ball right here. It's fucked up. Kendrick could dress that on the album too. Like using that shit to like hurt people. Like women know how to say shit. Like it was like boom. Of course.

I told you that. I cry. Like if you ever cry, you cry in front of women? Have you cried in front of women? Of course. When you crying for the woman, is that like a clear indicator that you love this woman?

Like trust this woman? Yeah. I would say so. There's definitely a level of trust and vulnerability. That I hope you don't throw back in my face eventually. Yeah, that'd be like, but it's happening. That's evil.

If a girl does that, that's evil. Like, I'm all. Y'all are evil. Yeah, that's how. It's definitely. Women are fucking evil, yo. They're throwing it back to you? Oh, for sure.

I've seen some shit. I'm just like, oh my God, that's crazy that she would do that. Like, y'all brain just works on a different freak. I'm telling you, men, we don't have that. We do more like physical shit. Like, we'll go cheat with a girl where if you had a flat ass, she had a fat ass now. Like, we'll do shit like that. But y'all do.

You don't think that. That hurts. We know it hurts. But it's a certain level of evil that women possess where it's like, yo, I confided in you. Like I really like was vulnerable in front of you. And then you took that information, put it in a box, stored it in your mental, and unlocked it and threw it at me when you knew I was at my weakest, like, and like, that

crushed me. Like, y'all know how to like break a man's spirit. Like, niggas don't, so I know a nigga that never, What's her name, what she do to you? She's never me, baby. Woman ain't, see this, I never cried in front of a woman. You have to let men be emotionally vulnerable. You have to let boys, especially teenage boys and young boys growing up, be emotionally vulnerable

because what happens is men don't know how to, they don't know how to express sadness. What they express instead is anger because anger is defined. The anger is quote unquote masculine. So it's okay to punch a wall. For sure. It's okay to throw things. It's okay to curse and scream. But it's not okay to cry.

When in all reality, they're not angry. They're sad and they're hurt and they want to cry. And that just fuels toxic masculinity. And I don't think that that's okay at all. I want my partner to be okay crying in front of me. If something happens and you can't cry in front of me, then I'm looking at that as a red flag. Even if you can't cry in front of me, why can't you cry? Like what's going on with you that you have to cry?

No, men cry. We cry in the shower. so you can't see it. And we can't see it because it's the water. We're crying the shower. Like when we're like, why are you being in there taking a shower for some? You in there jerking off? No, I'm crying.

I'm fucking hurting. I'm crying. That's what I'm doing in this fucking shower. They'll kill me for this question, but it's just a question. Demaris, how much do you think women play into toxic masculinity and its existence? Oh, 100%. So much. So much.

We're all, we are all like, that is all of our issues. That's not just a man issue. That's not just a man issue. I see so many women raising their sons like stop crying like old bitch That shit makes me crazy Telling the kids It happens

But even how women would view their own fucking boyfriend And say if we get in a fight And I start crying And like I'm very vulnerable About how much you hurt me A lot of women Especially from the era we grew up And I'm not saying so much now

Because people are trying to change Well look at you like Look at my weak ass But this is why I can't be with him Look his weak ass But if I start punching walls throwing shit and get angry and run out of the house. Oh, he's crazy.

There's toxic guys, one of them to be like, oh, I got turned on when he did that. Yeah. Yeah, no, that is like, I won't. I won't do that. Stockholm? I'll leave. That's in Germany, right? Where's that?

Stockholm is in, uh, what's that? Stockholm is in, uh, was, Germany, I believe? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Stockholm is when you, when you're, you fall in love with your captor. And that's not so much what I'm saying. I'm saying that women, uh, get turned on and reward, quote unquote,

real masculinity rather than, vulnerability. You look like a weak man. I don't want some weak pussy that's going to be crying in my shoulder. Like, I'm, what am I the dude now? What they want? The strong angry. You crying in front of one before, Edith? Yeah, definitely crying from my girl before. Yeah. Undoubtedly, yes. Yeah. Why? I'm just asking. I just want, I just like to get to know what the guys around me. My boyfriend cried in front of me. I felt even more in love with him instantly. I absolutely. It took me to my late 20s to do it, though. Talk about that, Damaris. Because I know that because I know that, because vulnerability isn't my strong suit. So we can't both not be sitting here crying because one of his

issues with me was you don't cry. What was he crying about? That's something. That's life, life names. You know what I'm saying? He cried in front of her, not in front of us. I don't need to know. No, I don't want to see him crying, but I just like to know, like, what is something that men would cry?

Like, what did you cry in front of your girlfriend about? I'm not telling you. I didn't cry in front of you. No, but you can't tell. Obviously, it was a very big thing because I don't just cry in front of women. Like, it took me also to my late 20s to even be comfortable enough to do so. But it was a major thing. It wasn't like I stubbed my toe.

Like it would... I was like, I would hope. I would hope and pray that's not white. Shit, you look at it. The nail is going to fall off. How am I going to go to Roots picnic like this? I can't with my burkingstocks now. I don't have anything to wear.

Hey, a nigga cried because he ain't got nothing to wear. Fuck it. I'm not even going out. I'm not even going anymore. I can't do this. Put on a white tea. Geez, get the fuck out of here. If you put out on a t-shirts and get the fuck out on the stage.

Like, yo. No, I'm just trying to figure out what men would be crying. Like, if it's not nothing like, you know. You listened to Kendrick Galam? We were having a conversation. Man shit to cry about. You know, things happen in childhood and in life. Sad shit happens, Mom.

No, for sure. I get that. But I just, I just know how it is for, you know, for a man to cry in front of a woman, that's a different level of vulnerability. And I know, obviously, I know men crying for them. I'm joking. I don't know me. I've never I don't know if it's unfortunate

but no, I've never cried in front of a moment of life. I don't think that's unfortunate to do but if I would say it would and I'm not not crying like if I had to if it was ever something where I felt like I needed to cry for it I would. That would be unfortunate.

Huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I cry, yes, nasty cry. It's not, yes, it's just nasty cry when I cry. I cry like you've been. Well, it looked like he let the snot just hang like Viola Davis. Because he's been suppressing it for so long when it finally comes out.

No, I'm not. it's nothing I'm suppressing it. I'm not. I'm getting a tissue. It's 30 years of snob just sitting there waiting to be released. I blow my nose every day. No, but I just know that that's a very vulnerable thing for a man to cry in front of a woman. So I was just asking, you know, just asking you out if you would cry.

If you feel like you can't cry in front of your woman, and that's a conversation you need to have with her. I would cry in front of my woman, but I just never. Or yourself. Or yourself. Yeah, a lot of it be you. Like, I can't cry in front of people, period, unless I'm like happy crying. Like, I'm a happy crying. but if my life's like in distress, I'm like, nah, like I'm depressed as fuck.

Yeah, because I'm, like, and I'm just sitting here laughing. I've been with women that I could probably cry in front of, but I wasn't ready to cry in front of a woman. Yeah. So you stopped it? Yeah. Hell yeah. You did you go to the bathroom? Just punch yourself.

No, I just, I've, my, you've had a male childhood. We know how to stop our feelings pretty quickly since we was kids of. We were we just put on the motion on our diste at West Coast. Love in an ocean sign. And I didn't want me my. No. I put on 50 one-up gangster and just fucking run amok. But you know, you've definitely learned from a kid how to stop yourself from crying

and bury your emotions when things have happened. Yeah, you just got to breathe heavy. Exactly. Yeah. Not breathe, breathe, breathe. You got to breathe heavy. Oh, for sure. It's enough.

Breathe heavy. We're breathing right now. Get mad at anything in the room. We just start staring at it, ball up your fist. You know, anything to stop the water from coming out of your. For sure. Did you tighten up your cheekbones? Yeah.

Yeah. I don't do it. I ask you, are you crying? No, I'm not crying. He's now as beef with him. For sure. You look like you crying. I just ask you a fucking.

Fuck you looking in my eyes for it. Yo. That's how it goes. I love it. I love it. I love it. That's the truth, though. That's how that shit went when he was a kid.

No, real shit. Real shit. It's, I feel so bad for you guys. It's just, and then there's so many, like, we can get into that of all the negative connotations that go into, even the words we refer to men or boys when they are getting emotional. Pussies. Cicies, bitch, pull your panties. It's all women related. Like, women are soft.

And it's all usually in violent, referring to the vagina in a violent way, connecting it to women. It's just all very terrible. And you can, yeah. I agree. Referring to the vagina in a violent way. You ever realize that? That a lot of the ways men talk about vagina is all very violent.

Like beating the person. Yeah, I'm going to beat it up. I'm going to fuck that up. You're missing my point. Yeah, I ask for that. You're missing my point. Not the words, bro. Women don't ask for you to kill the pussy?

I think all of society, not just men. I think in general, yes, the words we use when it comes to pussy. It's very violent. Like even down, there was most of my teenage years to mid-20s was, yo, I killed. Oh, yeah. Yeah, not killed. I killed. I killed.

I killed. I tore that shit up. I tore that shit. It's never anything loving or like, affect. It's always all very violent. What is love making and it's fucking. But also, I've quote unquote torn that up while it was very intimate and slow. And I didn't tear it up.

It was actually great sex and I didn't tear it up. But then I say, you I tore that up, right? Yeah. It's like, you know, you actually softly penetrated me until I came. You actually did a beautiful experience there. No, the way you rub my clitoris was I've never felt. You were so gentle with it. Yeah.

Yeah. Wait, so afterwards you literally said I tore that up. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's the way, it's just the way. Yeah, it's just, yeah, it's just, uh, but the demerous point,

it is weird that all the words are fucking violent. That, yeah, I'm asking me to do it. Hey, asking the girl, y'all, I tore it up, right? That is sick. You can't ask a girl no shit like that, though. You need to, and y'all get that. You ask you for a lot of you, though, most times. Most times you didn't.

No. So you're asking for a lot of you. Like, I tore it up, right? It's like asking if they came. Yeah, but you have to do it in, like, a funny way that if she says otherwise, it's okay because you said it kind of sarcastically. Yeah. But then sometimes with a sarcastic

you'll get like a real answer and you'll feel good that you did tear it up. So you always got to be like, hey, tore it up. They're like, mm-hmm. So what would be the more... Look at you walking different. What are women talking about amongst each other

that they would love to hear men speak to like in a more... Well, half a most... Because y'all want the soft life, so we need to be more soft with our tone. Most women don't even know that that's a problem. They would hear it the same way you guys heard him like, huh, I never really paid attention to that.

Because that's a societal thing. It's not just a man thing. It's a societal thing. the same way we put on toxic masculinity for men and just be like, stop acting like a bitch stop acting like a pussy, stop acting like a girl, pull your skirt up, take your tampon out.

It's like you all, anytime anybody has emotions, you refer to it as a womanly thing when all humans have emotions. And also women aren't like, like, I don't know, it's just hard to explain. It's weird. So the phrase, y'all would prefer,

did you, you would prefer for a man to ask you, did you enjoy it? Did you, are you satisfied? Did you, did you climax? If you have to ask, then you shouldn't have to answer. I'm just saying, but I'm just trying to figure out what would be a better. I've never been curious if she did or not. I would not.

I just want to know what would be a better way for men. Because like you said, it's very violent. Like I beat the pussy up. I killed that pussy or I fucked the shit out of her. Smashing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we need to move into a more softer.

Soft life. I, like Roy said, I penetrated you slowly until the Seagulls came home. I don't know, something like that. To the what go? But that's why this all goes full circle with women being responsible for toxic masculinity and the soft life. Yeah. Because they want all these things given to them and don't want to have to work. We would have to do that.

Providing she wanted to use capitalism. Let's take that example. There's no room for emotion in this capitalistic world when it comes to providing. Okay. So you're asking for a man to be vulnerable. You're asking this and that. You want to be the soft life, all this. and you also want a man to be vulnerable, but provide,

it's very hard to be vulnerable and emotional when all day you've had to live in a capitalistic society that does not allow for emotions when it comes to success. Right. So I just don't think women, this buffet. No, y'all want the buffet life. But why do you think that y'all are the only ones that have to turn off your emotions in the workplace?

I don't think so. I actually think women have to turn them off more. But I'm saying as far as toxic masculinity, we're so much more okay with turning, our emotions off and we've been taught our whole lives anyway. So it is much easier for us to do so. Just don't ask me when I get home why I'm not that vulnerable when women are part of a reason for toxic masculinity. Capitalism is part of it. And you want me to succeed and provide for you. And the best way to do that in this society is not to have any emotions.

Yes. But if you're going to have a partner, you need to learn. If you're going to have a partner and on top of that, if you're going to have any type of healthy mental, which you need to have a partner so that goes in hand-to-hand, you're going to have to learn to balance. But I don't think he means that in a sense of, like, a partner that he's in. Like, I'm pretty sure that we're searched for a partner or any of y'all would search for a partner that they know that you're not the provider, period of that. For sure.

But I'm going off this soft life thing, not my personal life. In the sense of, again, going back to capitalism, providing for a person, that's all they're looking for. And I guess, exchange to it for what? Yeah, it's just, it's very difficult to ask your partner to provide and also be extremely vulnerable when they walk into the door when outside, if you want them to provide, they can't have that ability.

Wasn't that the shit though back then? Like in the 50s, that was just kind of like the housewife and then... Yeah, and the stereotype would be a man would work his fucking brain away and then come home and take it out on his wife and beat the shit out of her because he's been turning his emotions off all day.

He doesn't know how to channel them. And like DeMera said, instead of crying, it turns to anger and anger turns to violence. Right. So he takes his entire day out on the housewife. Oh, my friend.

That sucks. There's a term for these. They're called wife feeders. Oh, right. Because when you get home, like, it's not funny, but that's where they come from. And in my house, we call them husband beaters. Why? Because it's funny.

I like a woman and a wife beater. Women and wife beaters with no bra. Yes. Oh, yeah. That's the one for me. Chef's kiss. That gets me going. kiss when they have the husband beat her on.

Come beat it up, babe. Y'all need help. Come, ew, right? Come beat me up. Wow, you guys are problematic. But I think that that was a good conversation. And I think that all of us as humans can just be more aware of the things that we say. Be more aware.

Be softer. Be more caring. Be more gentle with each other. Be more communicative as well. Yeah, let's talk about it. Let's get to how we really feel about that. things. Let's, you know, have these conversations of that are awkward and make

them not awkward. You know what I mean? Allow room for men's emotions, whether you're raising a man as far as like raising a child or whether you're in a relationship. And men, cry in front of your women. Yeah. When she comes home, just be sitting on the couch, just be crying. Fuck it. Because she just changes whatever she was coming in the house with, whatever bullshit she was going to come at you with, it totally

throws it off track. Now she's just wondering why her man is sitting at home crying. And if you can't cry, I don't know, watch Rudy. right before she comes on. I challenge you not to cry when they put him in the game. I challenge every man, I challenge every man watching

or listening to this show to watch Rudy and not cry when they subbed them into the game. When the groundskeeper starts doing the crazy clown. Oh my God. It's the waterworks.

No pun intended. When the groundskeeper The water works is hilarious. You can't shut it off, No. He worked so hard, man. You don't know what Rudy went through. He deserves a soft life. Rudy deserved a soft life. Rudy was stupid. Rudy was a dumb ass. I was Rudy a dumbass. Yo. The water works.

Man. All right. It got him a degree from Notre Dame. Okay. So I guess it was worth that and cool. Cool pride and all that. We all know the guy that's still living in a high school. school. The waterworks is hilarious, though. Because it's true, though. Like, you want to know why that's funny, I'd never forget the first time I watched Rudy. Great story, great movie. And it's a fact that when he subbed him into the game, you just got emotional.

And by the way, it was at the exact time you changed the channel. It wasn't a good game. It was a blowout. Throw the subs in. They even had to convince him. throw the subs in when it was a blowout. Yo, man, the waterworks is hilarious, man. Yeah, man, cry in front of your girl, man.

Fuck you, man. Like, I get, let's applaud. It should be a national, isn't it, like, a thing in, like, Asian countries where they have to cry? Because I've been seeing videos of, like, men just crying. But where you get your news from? No, like, no, it's like somebody when, like, someone one of the leaders of the country patches away,

they have to cry. Oh, okay. Well, what he's talking about? That's called communism. We need that here. We need that here. I think everybody should have to cry like one day out of the month. I guarantee you like it will be so much, so much good will come from that.

Well, National Crying Day is June 24th. But who, like, who are we crying for, though? There's a National Crying Day. June 24th. Oh, my fucking God. I can't wait. I think I have that day off too. That was established June 24th.

That's a Gemini's right. That makes sense. Shut the fuck up, Roy. National crying days. What political leader will we be crying for? Joe. Do you think you guys would have stormed the Capitol if all those men like cried the day before and just kind of got their emotions out?

No, no, they would know. You don't think that was some suppressed white anger that could have just been let out? Like crying? Yeah. Like straight white men are under attack and no one will listen to me. Well, to be fair. We're the minority in this country now. I think they were crying when they just did that instead of stormed the capital.

I think they were crying when they stormed the capital. But they had masks. White War cries? Yeah. They were crying. It was a cry. They were crying for help. Cautious cries.

Crying for a fair vote. Like, yeah, I don't know what they were crying for. The Caucus Mountain Cry? The Caucus Mountain Cry. That is hilarious. Yeah, but I challenge every or any man to watch Rudy and not cry when they subbed them in the game. It's impossible. As a man you have, that's like whoever, that part of the movie, that's just man cry time.

Like, ladies, just leave. Just leave us alone with Rudy for a minute. and let us get our thoughts together. What is it Brian's song? What's the other one? Brian Piccolo. Oh, I tear up at that one. At the speech at the end, look that one up.

That's another football. I never seen that one. I was going to ask you guys what movies have made y'all tear or scratch. I told you, when Raphael got jumped and Ninja Turtles, I cried. Hey, Brian Piccolo. I think the first time I think I remember cried watching the movie I was young was Cornbread Earl and me. When they killed Cornbread, when the police killed. kill corn bread. I cried at that part.

Titanic. Titanic? You cry? Watching a Titanic? I cried for masculinity. That door was big enough. It definitely was. It was mad space on that. That door was definitely. I cried as a creator. That was a twin-sized bitch. Who left that kid? I've slept with two women in a college dorm bed.

Yeah. Comfortably. You could have fit on that fucking door. Matter of fact, y'all could have cuddled on the door. Yeah, Jack didn't have to die like that. He didn't have to go out like that. But she was a piece of shit. And then she threw a gem in the sea. Yeah.

Pieces shit. I would even do that. She was a cheater. She went against her family. Then the new dude she even betrayed. And then to... The new dude was beating her. So do you want to retract that?

No, I'm talking about her husband she cheated on. Jack being the new dude. She betrayed him. She fucking left him in the freezing ocean when he could have easily climbed on that fucking door. That was a twin side. Then all of a sudden, now of a sudden, once he dies, she knows how to blow a fucking whistle. Yeah.

She garnered the strength. to blow until they hurt her. And then after all of that, instead of maybe thinking about Jack's family and maybe you got relatives, let me just throw this fucking diamond that the whole world's looking for into the ocean.

Jack's family maybe could have used a pension. Imagine she had it the whole time and that's why they got her for her. And then she moved on and had mad kids. What a life. Jack's bones are somewhere at the bottom of the Atlantic. That shit is definitely disintegrated by that.

Oh, we have to add to the conspiracy list for the episode. The Titanic did not actually sink. I looked into that one. No, I think we saw, we saw footage of it. That was the, again, Steven Spielberg. That was his version. That wasn't a documentary.

Like, Leo wasn't really on the boat. No, I, no, the real Titanic. They didn't have drones at that time. The real Titanic, same. Rose didn't have a GoPro on. So do you, right. We'll save that for the conspiracy. You will save that for another conspiracy.

To intro it, to then go to the next episode, they switched the boats, and that wasn't really, no, a boat did sink, but it wasn't the Titanic. They renamed another boat the Titanic. Okay. Yeah. It's not really like a conspiracy that, like, affects anyone's lives because everyone did die. Except for the people from the Titanic.

It's like, does it matter that it was painted Titanic or not? But yes, that wasn't the real Titanic. Got you. May 21st, Biggie's birthday. Yes. Biggie would have turned 50 this past, this past Saturday. Happy birthday to Biggie's birthday. Smalls. So in

honor of Biggie, May 21st has been named Big Day in New York City. Should have been quicker than that, but I'm happy they did. And it's St. James, is it called Notorious BIG Way? I haven't really been over there in a while. I'm not sure. It should be, though.

Fulton or St. James should be. Yes. But I heard they shut down St. James on Saturday between Gates and Fulton. Dope. So, and shout out to CJ. I didn't realize. C.J. follows the New Rory Moll page. Yeah, I was at the monogram.

It's funny because CJ, we was talking. Shout out to C.J. Wallace. Biggie's son, for those that don't know. We was at the monogram dinner. And he was talking. I'm so mad I missed that. Oh, shit, man. And he was talking.

We were talking, kicking it. And he told me that he'd never been to Madison Square Garden. And he'd never been to a Yankee game. And I was blown away by that. I was like, there's no way Biggie Sun has never been to Madison Square Garden. I would have never thought that. I would have never. And granted, he did.

They grew up on the West Coast and in Atlanta, I believe. So I understand he didn't spend a lot of time in New York, but still, it's like, Biggie's son, that's criminal. Biggie's son should definitely have been to Yankee Stadium and to Madison Street. He should have thrown out a pitch or done a sweepstakes with a foul shot. Absolutely, absolutely. Something, right? Yeah.

We got to take CJ to Yankee. Yeah. It's funny because I was going to take him Friday. I text him and I said, yo, what are you doing? but the game got rained out one and he said they had the party Friday night he said Little Kim had put together the party for a Big's birthday so he couldn't go

but I think he's still here so I think I want to take him this week to a Yankee game I feel offended then all was sneaky Lincoln CJ and didn't even tell me no we didn't link but I was going to the Yankee game Friday the monogram dinner was Monday so I just thought about it when he said and I was like I'm already going to the game

I was like nah I got a Biggie son has to go to a Yankee game or at least a nickname. You just gonna put him in the box? He'd been to the Barclays, though. He said he'd been to Barclays. I would hope so. Yeah, he's been to Barclays.

He's never been to Madison Square. His dad is hanging in the rafters there. I mean, I told him I was like, bro, Madison Square, like. I went to the first, um, because when Jay did those, I think it was seven days, seven shows, Barclays, the first opening. I went to the first night,

like the first night it opened for the Jay concert. And I did love that there was no intro. Hove just played Juicy. Just so Juicy could be the first record ever played at the Barclays Center. Like, I thought that was ill. It wasn't like some fucking, like, intro. Like, let's start with Juicy, then I'll get into.

No, he just, you know, just hit play. Just let Juicy rock. And this is how we're starting the barclays. Yeah. I think that that is the only way you would open that building. And then after that, Big Daddy Kane came out, dancers, everything. I was like, oh, this is Brooklyn. This is, I'm happy Hove gave that moment

to Big and Kane and everyone. He gets it. We know that. People say what they want about Jay, but he pays attention to the details. he understands the importance of little things like that that means so much. And I'm not really the IG guy. I just saw when it said at the bottom, when I clicked CJ's page on Saturday

because everyone was just posting a bunch of shit and I saw the followers new or anymore. Then I clicked his followers, which I don't do, and I feel weird even talking about that. CJ follows all the fucking ill, weirdo, alternative R&B underground artists that I do. I was like, this is, like,

CJ knows about him. This shit is, it was weird. And I thought it was ill that he has like a completely different taste i'm sure of course he loves his pop's music his dad was into jazz things that we nobody he's into some some weirdo shit like me yeah i thought that was dope yeah so shout out to the wallace family shout out to uh you know his kids uh his mom everybody man uh that was big for them the name may 21st big day in new york city um and happy birthday at biggie smalls i was mad i didn't get to i didn't i totally forgot that they were giving away the metro cards at certain

train stations in Brooklyn to commemorate Biggie's 50th birthday. But then I saw the videos online. Those lines were absolutely ridiculous. And I was like, yeah, you know what? I'm all wouldn't have waited on those lines. I would have done what I usually do, went to the person in the front and just said, you listen, I'll give you $100. Yeah.

I'm not waiting on this line. The line was wrapped around the inside of the station, outside of the station down the block. I love Big. And then half of those kids weren't, they were 25. You weren't even a lot. It sucks. You don't even know. Hypey show.

You don't know, no. He didn't know Elvis. You know what I mean? Like, move. Get out the way. Y'all don't even know what this is. But either way, I thought the MTA did a great job. Excuse me, of saluting Biggie on his 50th birthday.

I thought that was really dope. Matt, I didn't get a metric card. I'm sure I found one online for like $1,000 that they're trying to resell him for. Don't do that more because I want my kids to respect Biggie the same way. The same way I grew up to respect him the same way my dad. Like, I want that. Because my kids are going to think Michael's still alive until like they're over like he's dead. I get that.

I don't think that's what he's saying. No, that's not what I'm saying. Listen to his music. Look at his videos, study his lyricism and all of that. His art, his artistry for sure. But things like that, we know they just getting that, going to the machine, getting 10 of them to flip them online. We know what that is.

They respect the hype beast. They don't respect it. It could have been anybody's picture on there, but because it was the moment in the hypebees world, let's go do that. Yeah. And that's all I was mad. I was just like, I'm, you know, I'm glad I didn't. But either way. Happy birthday to Biggie Smalls who would have been 50 on Saturday.

Diddy and Jay were on spaces, Twitter spaces. And, you know, to just talk about, you know, Biggie and his birthday and everything like that. And Diddy gave Jay his flowers and said, you know, he stepped up after the untimely death of Biggie and Tupac. And he filled their shoes is pretty much with... Do you agree with that? Amongst others. filled his shoes. I don't think you can fill Biggie or Pock shoes.

Let me just say that. I don't think that, you know, I definitely know that Jay wasn't trying to fill nobody's shoes. I think Jay was going to be Jay, no matter what. But I do understand what Diddy was saying. It's kind of like these two big pillars that we had in our culture are gone. And you, after them, you became the guy that we looked at in the culture, like, okay, he's one of the pillars.

And for years, it's been that for Jay. He's been one of the pillars of hip hop and the culture, music, business. He made it real for people to understand that you can have a talent and, you know, you can have a dream. And, you know, you can see it through. You can achieve these goals. You can be from these communities, these projects. But all of this, you know, these obstacles that life throws at you, you can clear these hurdles. You can get around these obstacles and you can still get to your goals.

goals and become, you know, one of the biggest people and influences in your culture. Do you think Hove was always going to be Hove or do you think things would be different if big was still alive? No. I mean, things would, yes. They would be different. I still think Hove would be Hove. Yeah, both of those are true.

Things would be different and J was still going to be J. No matter what. I just think that his talent was undeniable. His, uh... And even to say that, because I do all, I hate when people say that type of shit, because let's deal with what actually happened. But even volume one, it's not like Big died and then Hove was Hove at volume one. Because that's not, he wasn't really hove till volume two.

Yeah. And I'm not saying the name, but like. Yeah, that's when he took off. That's when his career took off. Until Hard Knock Life, he still wasn't like some what big was. So it's not like, oh, Big died. And then everyone was just like, well, you're the new big. Here you go.

Perform, let's hear. It wasn't. And I don't like when people do that. I think it's stupid. But both things are true. Yes, he did. Nas as well. I only asked because of the line and the pushy-tie song.

Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, but because he hears that. He hears that a lot. He's been here in his whole career. For sure. You know, it's like I was going to be me no matter what because I was always and only me. But I do understand what Diddy was saying by saying, you know, you stepped up and, you know, you became the guy that we all looked up to and that really pushed the culture in a whole different direction. I you know big and pot and like just pushing forward that's just me being the student of the game and loving the game and loving the culture and just want to push the culture forward and for me that's that was the challenge that I was faced with and um you know that's a void that's a big void that ain't you know others you know other stepped in the field filled filled it as well not just myself but it was uh that's a big void that's that's that's the two that's the two that's the two

pillars right there. Imagine that within within a year. Yeah, six months, six months apart. Yeah, I mean, come on, man. Yo, I want to say, bro, you filled them shoes, though. You came in and

you, you know what I'm saying? So we definitely give thanks for you. You know what saying? Because you definitely, you know, came in, and I just know how much big, like, like really looked up to Jay. You know what I'm saying? As far as like, Like they looked up to each other.

They looked up to each other. And yeah, that that is crazy to have to step into the shoes of like two people. Because that's all it was, really, was those two people. And they had like the game, they had things on lock. Hove was coming. You know what I'm saying? But, like, you know, it was like these two cats was just so big. you know what I'm saying

and then so it's like to have all of that like you know come on you and have that responsibility to keep this shit fly and keep the art of it going yeah you know what I'm saying because I think Hove really kept the you know not you know

Cole kept the art of it going and was able to take where they was at and take it you know what I'm saying take it even higher yeah and he like they look yeah so that was

dope for Diddy to say that and, you know, give hold his quote-unquote flowers. For sure. And, you know, after that whole traumatic losing of rocking big, yeah, like crazy times. But Jay definitely became the guy and he definitely took the culture to new levels. And, you know, like all across the board, musically, business and culture, influence and, you know, just around the world and things he's doing, you know, with different organizations. and, you know, now him and his wife, Beyonce, doing amazing things. Like, it's just, you know, when you look back at it, it's just, it's like where he started, his message and things he was saying, and watching him grow and become a man and a family man

and a businessman. It's a lot. Because at that point, with or without the unfortunate Biggie situation, when did Bean's come, 98, 99? Like, Rockefeller was 99? I think Beans was 99 in the first one. Rockefeller was in motion of being what it was

regardless of what bad boy was doing Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what Puff said. Jay, you know, he was definitely, he was coming for sure. But, um, pause. But, you know, it's, you know, feeling big in, and pox shoes is something that I don't, I don't think will ever be done. But I do understand what Diddy was saying.

It's like, Jay definitely, you know, carried that torch and, you know, he became the biggest, the biggest star in the coach. and just handle herself and carried itself well throughout the entire career. Yeah. And the truth was 2000, but I know Beans was out in 99. Yeah, February 2000 was when the album came. Well, I asked you because you were, what, 16 or 17 when Big and Pock died?

I was a little younger. I was 15. So you can obviously speak to that climate way more than the three of us going. What was that like as a teenager? It was weird. I remember, I remember, uh, I remember when Pock died, it was like a shock to everybody because he had got shot. And then he died days later in the hospital.

And then we just kind of got the news that, you know, he passed away in the hospital and things like that. And that was that shook everybody up like, damn, Tupac died. Like, you know, it was definitely a time where even if, you know, that whole East Coast, West Coast shit, that wasn't real. You know, people on the East Coast, you know, we loved Pock. So that hurt us too when Pock died. Biggie was different because of the way, first of all, it was so sudden. It was, you know, it was, it literally was like, I remember going to school and I'm listening. I had the CD Walkman.

I don't remember what I was listening to. But I had a CD Walkman. I'm almost walking to the train station. You know, you walk past a newsstand. You look at newspapers or whatever. And I think the headline was the rise and fall of Big. And at the time, I thought Biggie may have fell. Because remember he had the cane.

I remember, yeah, from the car accident. His leg was messed up. So I'm like, damn, big must have fell, like, you know, like hurt itself something. Didn't register to me that they were saying that, yeah, he died. Until I got on the train and a lady had the newspaper. And she was reading it. And she was like, it's so sad that they killed Biggie. And I'm like, what?

Because you, I remember, this happened in California with their three hours behind. And it was late in California because they were leaving, like, the after party. So like our time 7.30 8 a.m. was probably like around the time where they're probably announced it in California. Yeah. So, you know, for us to be, me, I'm walking to the train station like, I'm like, I seen the paper. I was like, well, Biggie, what? Yeah. It was the craziest shit, man. It was like, it was unbelievable. Like that, that feeling was like. And that's, that was the moment where, you know, me being young, I felt like, oh, shit. I'm from the East Coast. I'm from New York. I can't go to. California. I remember feeling that way. Like, I can't go to California. They hate East Coast people because we were being fed this whole East Coast, West Coast beef thing. And then

Pock is killed. And then Biggie is killed in California. It could appear if you're not in the no. Yeah. So I'm like, you know, I'm like, oh shit, they really don't. They hate us. Like, they killed Biggie over there. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was just, you know, it was a, it was a very, very, you know, me being 14, 15 years old. It was just. it was a very weird time, especially when, you know, the way we received our information and news back then was so different. You didn't really know what was going on. You didn't know the ends and outs of things like that. But it was, it was tough, man. You know, that was definitely something that affected a lot of people. I even think to this day that shook up

the industry in a way where we really don't quite comprehend it yet, but it changed a lot. It definitely changed a lot. And I remember when we got the news that Nipsey had passed, Yeah. And I remember thinking to myself, you know, in a weird, selfish way, I remember thinking to myself, I'm so glad that this did not happen outside of his hometown. It's weird. I see what you're saying. But I was like, if this would have been taken from us and killed like this in another

city, I think that would have set off violence and, and a spree of, you know, just to bad things that I don't think anybody would have really been. ready for because I remember what it felt like when we lost big. And it was a real, it was a divide. It was like a real, we can't go over there. I'm 15 thinking this. I'm not going there anyway. You know what I'm saying?

But I remember feeling that like, oh shit, we can't go to the West Coast. We can't go to California. Like, they hate people from New York over there. You know what I mean? Like I really remember feeling like that. At this time where your brother is traveling like that? Like, just that's fair for you? Yeah.

But I was young. I was, you know, I was still young. I was 14, 15 years old, but, you know, they were that, because I think they had a, they used to do like, I think a ski trip or like they used to do something around that time where they was like, they were like out of town somewhere doing something. I don't know if they had like a, it was a ski trip or some type of trip where you know that I used to do like bus rides and go somewhere. And I remember they had to come back once they got the news that that big had died.

I remember they had to come back to the city. And it was, it was crazy, man. It was definitely a real, the energy over the city was very, very like, you could tell that everybody felt that. Because older people love big. Younger people love big. You know what I'm saying? He was such a pillar in his community. He was a facing his community.

Everybody watched him grow up. So you really felt like you was losing one of your own. You know what I mean? And it was just, you know, it's crazy how years later. And I always say, like, nothing is new under the sun. Like, you know, we've, we continue to lose so many people in our culture where it's. you almost become numb to it and you expect it it's fucked up.

But when people say things like, damn, you know, Paa Smoke was so young and, you know, Nipsey was so young and these things. And I'm like, well, Pock and Big was only 23, 24. Which I, you know, 25 years old maybe.

You know, it's like they were young too. These were young men. I've said because, you know, Pock and Big at my age were like, you know, like these figures that, because I was six and seven when they both died. Or six when they both died.

Mm-hmm. I view them more as like these gods. Like they weren't real people type of shit. So when I got to 24 years old and then 25 years old is when it finally hit me like, wait, big and pock were kids. Like wait, big died at 24. Yeah. I feel like a child at 24. Like these were children.

Because, you know, when you have that in your brain of them being like these these rap gods that you never really saw in the flesh or anything like. like that, you kind of just have in your head that they're older, the way you look at older people. Yeah. And then you get to that age and it's like, oh, Pock was just a 25-year-old while in Vegas the same way I was. Yeah. Yeah. It shit is weird. They were young. They were young, man. They were young. They just had a lot of responsibilities on their shoulders. They did a whole lot. They did a whole lot in the short time. That's why they're so legendary and so. Both way more intellectual than I or most 24 or 25-year-olds. I don't know. That's what's crazy about it, too, I think. Yeah. You're talking about, you know, all those years ago in the 90s, I think a 24, 25 year old in the 90s is different from a 24, 20, especially in the world has changed. Yeah. You know, like just what goes on in the world now. It was a difference. It was more, you felt a lot older. You carried yourself a lot more maturely. And the things they were, they were talking about, yeah, just it felt as I was getting older that these were just older brains. These were people that were way.

more mature, had lived a long life to be able to have this perspective and this type of intellect. That's why it was so weird when I turned 24. Like, oh, wow, big died at 24. Yeah. I'm stupid. Yeah. Yeah, it's, you know, it's fucked up that, you know, again, so many years later, we still see it happening, you know, whether we losing them to, you know, the hands of violence or to, you know, the justice system. It's, um, it's just, it's still like, you know, It's fucked up to see our young people in our culture still going through a lot of these things and still falling victim to a lot of the bullshit

that we like to glorify a lot of times. You know what I'm saying? But happy birthday at Biggie Smalls. Happy 50th birthday. Biggie Smalls. Prayers and condolence is still and always to the Wallace family. All right, yeah, I don't want to end on a sour note,

but I don't think it's a sour one, man. I'm glad everyone can still celebrate Biggs' life. Absolutely, as we should, celebrate all of our heroes in our culture, celebrate everybody that has a part in the hand and building this hip hop culture. And we'll go to the Yankee game with CJ. I would like to have CJ on the pod, not even on some biggie shit. Oh, no, we definitely want to do something with CJ.

Got to got to do something with CJ. I think that it's only right. Shout out to Rick Ross. He had his car show in Atlanta over the weekend. I saw a lot of people was down there, brought their cars out. If I would have known, I would have brought the Mazzie. I started to tell you, we should have brought the Mazzie. down to the promise.

That would be great. I mean, even though Flex is a weirdhood of me now after that little comment shit he did about me, but the Flex Car Show, does that still happen? I'll definitely pull the Mazda up to the Flex Car Show. I'm not sure. I think so. Just because I don't think the Mazda could make it down to Atlanta,

it can make it to the Bronx store. No, we got to ship the Mazda down. Yo, shipping the... Yeah, no, we put the Maz on the flat bed, shipping down Atlanta. The same way Pimp C did for the Big Pimpin video? Knock on Ross Gate, like, yo. Listen.

bought a toy down here, just put it on a lot. Brought a toy down here. No, it's actually a toy in the actual definition of it. Put it on the league. You put it right there next to the 72, whatever that is. Like, put it right there. The Mazda belong right there. I tried to take the Mazda and come see you, man.

Rory hid the keys for me. I took a thing. You couldn't even go crazy going crazy in the container. That was mad. Whatever. Yeah, you would have a side view, mirror, missing, and all kind of shit. I'm actually a very good driver, contrary to popular women can't drive, believe. No, I know a lot of women that can drive.

Yeah. But I just, again, I don't care. I know it sounds. I just hate when female Uber drivers pick me up. I don't. And it's just funny to say y'all can't drive. Why? Why again?

I just don't like being chauffered by a woman. Sitting in the backseat by a woman, it just feels crazy to me. Like, I want to, if I let me sit in the front shotgun with you all day. Oh, weird right out. Yeah, all day. But me sit in the back and, like, watching a woman follow directions dropping me off somewhere. It's just crazy to me. Like, I don't want to.

You know what I mean? You know what I'm old school, so I get it. Yeah, it's just a little weird. Not saying that women can. I know some great. women that drive better. I know a lot of men that can't drive. Yes.

I know a lot of really, really good female drivers. Females are, y'all little more heavy on that foot, though, like hitting them turns. Y'all be living dangerous on them turns. I ain't going to lie to. Well, I learned how to drive from need for speed, so I know to break before I hit some. And then you drive into the corner.

You shouldn't learn to drive from need for speed. Granted. Let's just put that out there. You shouldn't unlearn that. I hate to ruin all the progress and maturity we made from this episode. But if you're a man, you can't drive. You mad pussy. And this has been another episode of New Rory Amal.

And this has been another episode of New Rory Mall. I'm all that's Rory. He thinks your pussy if you don't know how to drive and you're a man. Or you're not a man. You guys know how to drive and stick. Hey, yo. Paul, let's play, yeah. And on that note, we will talk to y'all in a few days.

Y'all be blessed. They safe. Stream your favorite artist, support your favorite artist, support your favorite podcasters. Get tickets to the Roots Picnic if you haven't gotten them. It's going to be a great, great weekend in Philadelphia. Shout out to the Root. out to everybody touching the stage that weekend. Yeah, everybody be safe.

Have a great week. Weather's warming up in New York. Get out there, have some fun, spend some money. Do some cat calling. Save some money if you can. Hit the gym. Cat call these men. Hey, yo, shorty in the gray shorts.

Yeah, you. What's up? I will ask Edin. I will ask Edin before we sign off. How does it feel that you spoke to have a selfie with and put your hand over your heart for the future president of the United States? I feel great.

Logan Paul is announced he will be running for office for the U.S. presidency. And his vice president will be his brother Jake. Edden will be what? Secretary. Head of head of the male office in the White House. I don't know. I'll be secretaries. They'll be a male boy.

Shit, they make more money than us. We have, we have, we have, imagine Edin as your press secretary. Oh, my God. First of all, why does that, well, Why? What's wrong with that? No. Ed and you could be like head of like the pic, like the photo department. You could take like a bunch of pictures around the way. I thought he's a pig.

Yeah. No, like, no. You could edit their TikToks from the Oval Office. Yeah, you could do that because you know that. You know that. You know they're going to be the first presidents on TikTok. Of course you know that. So you can, you can run that department. Head of social media marketing and something like that.

They got to make up a new term for you. I think you'll be great for the job. D.C. was giving me Olivia Pope vibes. Like I was ready to like get into like politics. They spent one weekend in D. They did. You know what? This has been another episode of New Rory.

And you saw it. No, man. We'll leave a little alone. Don't do it. Listen, man, enjoy y'all week. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. We'll talk to y'all soon.

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