New Rory & MAL - Episode 72 | "Podcast Royalty"

Episode Date: June 3, 2022

Happy Friday! The guys start this episode off giving men their flowers for another win with the Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard defamation case. Somehow this leads into a debate about what squirt is made of. The guys talk about their worst dates ever, and then get into the BET Award nominees (and give you a little peek of who they voted for). They debate who is actually Reality Royalty, and should win best Hip Hop Couple. They also speak on B-Dot's "so far" list, Cyhi claiming best rapper alive, + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Would you all date an actor or actress? I have. I've dated some aspiring actresses. I'm saying like Well first of all that is They do act They act like that's squirt So it's just straight piss is what you're saying

She's really legitimate Because I know there's Wait I've been getting peed on this whole time No I want to start out this way more That's how you feeling Sky West celebration We're playing it in context

You wonder why I'm playing this And what context is in I would love to hear the context The men The men finally won one in court Yeah Yes we did Well, no, this might be...

That was a win for all men that have been mentally and physically abused by women. Well, this might be... This is one of a few that we've had. True. Oh, no, I understand that. Yeah. This is the latest and greatest. We're terrible.

Men are shitty, awful, all that. Absolutely. But it was nice to see us get one off. Oh, it's beautiful. We have to celebrate our victories. No matter how small they are, how far and few in between they are. We have to celebrate our victories as men.

We got one. Johnny Depp, you know, he... He was the only one that could bring it home. He was the only one. Only Johnny was going to get this thing done. But we never doubted him for a second. We never doubted him. We got a lot of the game tape.

Believe, believe men. Yes, today is a celebration for Johnny Depp and all the Deppsters around the world. Yes. I just named his hive, the Deppsters. Because, you know, we come from death. Yes, it's a lot of... a lot of, you know, deep thought behind it.

So yes, Johnny Depp has won a settlement. He won his case. He won his defamation lawsuit. He was awarded, I believe, $15 million. 15, yeah. Does she have $15 million? She just doesn't matter. They just put out on statements and she doesn't.

She won ever have it. Can't claim it. And if she would have won, I don't know how much Johnny Depp had worked, but she would have taken the entire show. Oh, Johnny is worth of you. So maybe he just saved $15 million. Yeah, he saved $15 million. But more importantly, his character is still intact. For sure.

You know, he walked out of the courtroom as a prideful, truth-telling man, which we all are truth-telling men. Men don't lie. And I didn't know he was method acting all throughout Blow. Like, he was just learning how to be abused mentally and taking advantage of by a woman. Absolutely. So I think he should take some accountability, but we did get Blow out of it.

We got Blow. Hopefully. He couldn't pick him and blow, huh? Yeah, no. No, not a terrible woman. Terrible. His own mother. Yeah, I mean, I believe this was a carryover.

It was. This was a carryover, but he was overcharging for what they did to Boston George. Absolutely. But he won, he won his case. He had his day in court. He won. So congratulations to Johnny Depp. One of the wilder trials.

We didn't talk about it a lot because just so much was happening. I feel like every day was a new update and I just wanted to wait for it to be over. I want to be completely honest. I thought all of this was fake. It felt that way in the beginning. And I also didn't know I didn't know who was telling the truth in the beginning either

and then obviously the case went on and we saw what time it was with. The lines of questioning in the courtroom for Johnny was crazy. The things they were asking him to read was crazy. The thing she was saying, her dog stepped on a bee.

It was like, I don't know what that has to do with anything, man, but okay. I just got to the owl episode in the staircase. So anything is possible. It just, you know, It felt weird.

It felt like this can't be real. She sat on his bed as a prank. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. All of this, it just felt like I thought Johnny Depp was, you know, playing with the internet and having fun with the world thinking that he was really going through this. But he was. This was a real case. So, yes, he has been found, I guess, not guilty.

Yeah. But it was a civil case. Yeah. So I don't, listen. Listen, whatever it means. I'm not a Twitter lawyer like y'all. I really don't know. I just saw the headline.

I believe Johnny Depp. Let me just say that. I don't believe that that woman was telling the truth at all. I believe it was a, I believe she's trying to be an actress. I'm happy that I've never been in a situation where I felt like I needed to record arguments with my significant other.

Yeah. When you get to that point, it's time to just, you know. And I don't mean that gender specific either side. I'm glad I've never been in that situation. Yeah, no, it's, um, I don't understand how people ever get to that point, honestly, to where now we're in court unless, you know, obviously you're married, kids, things like that are involved. But it's just good to see, you know.

Because Mel Gibson was going crazy. No, listen, we still never really talked about how crazy Mel Gibson went and the fact that he was still able to have a career after that. I don't, because he's still kind of around. I mean, I know he's Mel Gibson, but like he's obviously not as active. And I think that's more age specific than there's anything else. Nothing really pulled at his heart. He went against the Jewish people, which number one, case closed, he should have been done right there. Absolutely.

He went against the Lakers organization. You went against God? Obviously, it was very abusive to that woman, so I don't take that lightly at all. He was a fucking psychopath. He did survive all of that. Like, everyone kind of laughed at him screaming about his Lakers tickets. And I was like, no, this is a sick man. Like, get this woman and family away from him.

Oh, man. Yeah, man. It's just, you know, again, people have their issues and their problems. the home. It's just good to see Johnny Depp still keep his character and the guy, the cool guy that we believe him to be still intact. So congratulations

Johnny Depp, his lawyers, his, what did they call it, his team? His team. Congratulations to this team. I don't know how many lawyers he has, but congratulations to his team. And he got a $15 million settlement. I can't wait until the FX series. Oh, man. Yeah. Or.

People first Johnny Depp, even though it's not the people. Shorty versus Johnny Depp. You think they'll have a... That's the name of it. You think they'll have a CSI episode? Oh, Law & Order is already shooting right now, I'm sure. Yeah.

But... Definitely need a law and order. But I want the real... Like, the real one. Like, the people that did the OJ shit, the Versace shit, the Menendez brothers. Like, I want them to produce that. Yeah. But have we talked about this?

Would you date an actor or actress? I'm not even saying if they're particularly famous, just if that's their craft. I have. I've dated some aspiring actresses. But like, I'm saying like, I've never, Well, first of all, that is, they do act.

They act. The entire time. Yeah. They act. They act like that's squirt and it's not. But, um. It's not? Is that?

It's not. It's not. What is it? Uh, they put stuff in there? It depends on what type of water. They actually do you drink, uh, before shooting.

You know, they actually drink like a gallon of like water. So it's water. So it can be clear. So it's just straight piss is what you're saying. She's really like legitimate. Because I know there's, Wait, I've been getting peed on this whole time?

Have you smelled it after? Not really. Well, I know squirt has pee in it, but like you're telling me that's straight pee. Just like, they're just, they just really have to use the bathroom. Okay, squirt has pee in it. I know like, just like liquor has alcohol in it. I get that, but yeah, but I'm saying when a woman legitimately squirts, it's not just pee. You're saying this is, they're just peeing at an abrupt rate.

I think, I think, they're making it look like with some cinematography that she just Okay, here. Tell me what you think it is. Liquid. I think it's a mixture of whatever the moisture that makes their vaginas wet plus some pee plus, you know, lubrication. So you think everything that makes a woman wet is pee. No, that's not. That's okay. So you're changing the question. It can't be a mixture balance. Everything that makes a woman wet, no, that's not pee. No. What I'm saying is squirt. It can't be a mixture? If you want to have some, uh, Jungle Punch at the cookout. It didn't have it.

It's alcohol anyway you, anyway you, anyway. Okay, but some has way more sugar in it. Absolutely. Some other types of alcohol. It depends on her diet. Yeah. That's true. So it depends on how much water you drink before shooting.

Okay. So usually when women know that they're shooting a scene, they know that squirting is like the most, one of the most sort of after key, keyword searches in porn. They feel their stomach. It's, it's, uh, it's the monologue, if you will. So they feel, yeah. So they, so usually the night before they have to shoot, they'll just, nothing but water.

Hmm. They won't drink. No juices, no, you know, just straight water so that it's clear so that it's ingestable if the guy wants to drink it or things like that, yeah. Just water. Well, anyways, back to the original question. So yes, Johnny Depp, congratulations. No, so you dated an up-and-coming actor?

An aspiring actors, yes. She had a few rolls under her belt, small roles, but, you know. Is this the one that I always say that you've dated a famous girl and you say, no, I haven't? And I say, yes, you have? Is this the same one? I wouldn't consider her an actress. Well, that's why I wasn't sure. Oh, because I know she'd done roles, so I don't know if she said to you, I'm an actress.

No, she's never said that to me. I don't. No, she's never said that. I'm not saying she couldn't be one. No, she, I think she can actually be one. Absolutely for sure. But no, not her. Okay.

So how did that go? It was cool. I mean, you know, just she was aspiring, meaning like, you know, she would get a gig here and there every couple of months. You know, but it wasn't nothing. Like, I want to know what it's like to date like a real. like full time. Or even if they're not famous, someone that goes to acting class

Broadway. Yeah. Like I want to know what it's like to date one because I'm pretty sure that, you know, depending on what type of role they're going for, they're going to try to jump into that character. And now you have to deal with that character whenever you are out on the date with her.

She's going to be overly emotional. Yeah. Try to see if she can cry on cue. That'd be a headache. Sounds. And then like if they, even after the, after the movie's out and like you're out of character,

like what's stuck in your brain? Like, because you really killed that role. Like, how much of that did you become? Yeah. And now you can tap into it whenever you want. I ever told you about the time I was on a date with a girl and we kind of was having just a little disagreement. It wasn't yelling.

It wasn't none of that. It was just we were talking. I was disagreeing what she was saying. And I'm eating my food and I look up and she's like in full face of full of tears. Have I told you about that? No. I think I would remember this intrigue now.

Here's why it was crazy. She's crying. Face full of tears. I look up. I didn't even know she was crying because she's not. She wasn't like sniffling. I'm like looking down on my plate eating. It wasn't like she was sniffling and all.

You know, the cry shit. Yeah. I look up. She got a face full of tears. To make matters worse, the police were standing right by the fucking like the tabletops. Like, yeah, the bar. So I'm like, these police officers are going to think I'm beating this girl. Was she white?

No, she. Thank God. She wasn't white. But I'm just looking at her like, like you're going to cry like this while we're eating in front of the police? Like sobbing? And wait. Well, she started sobbing once I looked up. And I was like, yo, why are you crying?

And I turned, the cops are like right here. But was it a legitimate reason? Or was it like when women cry, like when they got the order wrong? No, it was legitimate. This is the last thing. I can't anything right today. I just wanted Monterella's sexy. No, she was crying because she was fucking crazy.

I found out later. Okay. She was just a fucking loony bin. Well, you found out later. So you just took that as maybe she had a rough day and this was the final straw and she just needed to just vent and just let it all out. I think the argument was like she didn't understand why, like, we weren't, like, more serious or something like that. Now, mind you, this was like literally maybe the second time we had ever hung out.

Well, were you guys talking a lot in between? Yeah, texting, but it's like, what do you mean more serious? Like, this is the first second time we've been to get something to eat together. What are you talking about? So it just found out she was just a little, you know, a little wacky. But at that point, you didn't think she was crazy. No, when she started crying, right then and there, I was like, she might be a little. But you ignored the red flags and kept going.

And then later on. Yeah. You know, you ignored the red flags. You know how we are. We see red. We just try to find something to match with it. For sure. We see a red flag.

We try to find a red shirt. You know what I mean? Like, that's just like what it is. But yeah, she's... Try to wave it. Yeah, she's... Like you had juveh or something? Yeah, she just turned out to be a little crazy.

Yeah, yeah. Bring me the red flags. You know, the homies just blood. It's all good. But yeah, she found out she was a little crazy So that was the end of that Okay Interesting

That was crazy That was like the first time a woman actually cried I was like what the fuck is wrong Is that like the worst that you've ever been on? Nah Hell no The worst that I've ever been on actually left Oh tell us about this

Yeah Tell you want to hear about it Yeah You kind of hit like a lower octave And did this affect you? No Not at all I just wasn't a typical reaction of me

He was like I left Yeah just got up and left Well what prompted that She was She was like really like just obnoxious and loud Okay I don't like loud obnoxious women I don't like loud obnoxious people

But like women is like that is a huge turnoff What county did she derive from? I believe she was from Atlanta Okay I haven't really found Atlanta women to be very obnoxious At least by New York standards This one was very loud very and she was rude to the waitress That's what really I was like

This doesn't sound Southern I don't like shit like that. Like when you talk to the wages... Where's Amaretta when you need her? She's not from Atlanta. She probably wasn't from Atlanta. Like, yeah, according to Amaretta, she probably wasn't. You are not Atlanta.

Yeah, but I didn't like that. And she was just, like, disrespectful to the wages. And it was just like, all right, man, you just... Did you pay the bill and then just leave? Did I pay the bill? And then just leave? Yeah, I paid the bill. And I was like, y'am out.

That was it? Midmeal? We were... We were... Rapping up. A couple bites. A couple bites. It was still some left on a play,

But I was like, I'll just ask to wait just for the check. He just came back and was like, you guys want dessert? And you're like, no, thank you. No, I asked to wait just for the check. I was like, can I get the check? I paid the bill. And I just was like, well, you know, take care. It was good seeing.

That was it. Oh, hey, I would. I knew you named that, Drake album. I knew it. Roy, what about one of your worst dates? I don't know about worst dates. I was going to say, I dated a girl that was on, like, Broadway, not a full-fledged actress.

But we, like, we talked. I wouldn't really say, like, we dated, dated, we talked and fucked. So we never really got to the part where I think she could have gotten in her like actor manipulation bag. And she was Broadway. So like, like I know Juliet. Like you can't get into your real bag. I read what's on Broadway. Like I've seen this play before.

So you're just doing the same play. So I haven't gotten in that way. Worst date? I don't know if I've had very many bad dates per se. I don't have to have some bad dates. I've had dates that were where I felt weren't worth my time afterwards but not like some crazy event happened where it was like, yo, what the fuck?

That I can think of. Because at one point I was a little bit of a serial dater. I was dating a lot. Pretender. Well, I don't know. Maybe Tinder existed. But yeah, I like to go on dates. See, it's funny, Rory, because I learned so much about, like,

because when we really started hanging out, you were already, like, in a full-fledged relationship. Yeah. So, like, I would love to see, like, to Rory when you were like throwing back bruskees, smoking sigs, tagging up on the subway. I want to see that Rory. You know what I mean? I want to hang out with that Rory.

Like, you might need to like go back to that. Just dig into that bag a little bit and just like hang out for like a week. But that, I can get into that bag. You just need to give me a post week of recovery afterwards. We should put some episodes in the bag. And then we could hang out and do that? Yeah, because you won't see me for a week. I need to sleep.

But even when I was doing my serial dating was in that. era. And I guess I didn't have much money. Oh, that's when you really drink. Isn't it amazing how much you drink when you don't have money? And fuck. Yeah. Like, poor people fuck a lot.

I have no time to fuck anymore. It's crazy because it's true, man. It's crazy. You drink so much when you're broke. Yeah. You drink so much. You have sex so much. It's just like.

Well, because they go hand in hand because you're drinking really cheap shit at a high abundance rate because it comes in ounces that it shouldn't come in. And you also come in ounces as well. And then after that, you're both on...

You didn't even have to say that. So you fuck a lot. It's true, though. And like all that, I feel like the fucking low-end bottom shelf liquor has like a mixture of alcohol, Viagra, and Molly in it. Yeah.

Which is why I don't understand why it's so fucking cheap. But it just makes everybody horny and you just end up fucking way more than you typically would. And it's also because when you're broke, you kind of like, you know, are depressed and then you meet other people that are depressed. And you kind of just try to fuck your way through depression. And I feel like hangovers really, I don't know, maybe that's an age thing, but hangovers started to happen more when I had money. When I was broke, I could drink ever clear wake up the next morning and say, yeah, where are we at?

Be good, yeah. Because you were anxious to just like get the drinking started again. Listen, if I don't pay the bill, oh well. Who cares? hungover. But no, I didn't have bad dates because a lot of that I would go. It weren't like official dates. I wasn't taking them out for like dinner and doing all that. Like, yeah, we, we here. Come here and that would be the date sort of to see if, you know, the precursor. Like, I can't escape out of this and say it wasn't a date if need be. So I did a lot of that. What about a really good date?

Really good date. Yeah. Can always be too negative, you know? That's corny though. Like, who wants to hear about that? We were lost in each other's eyes. There's so much chemistry. Oh, my God. She got every joke. Yeah, the night was amazing. And she picked up the bill.

Had no idea. Is her picking up a bill a reason to call it a good date? If you asked Johnny Depp. Yeah, absolutely. If a woman picks up the bill, that's a great date. Shorty picked up the bill in court. Whether she wants to or not. Whether she wants to not.

That was a good date for Johnny. That was a great date for Johnny Depp. But anyway, welcome to another episode of New Rory and Mall. Another audio adventure, another visual escapade. Call it what you want. I am all. That's Rory. What's going on, guys?

How was your few days off, man? Trying to get our little run of show up here. Real time producing. I was regular. Nothing even worth really talking about. But I think we wanted to get right into our upcoming weekend with Roots Picnic. One of our amazing. listeners, I believe, has her daughter's soccer game and cannot attend.

I don't know if that's true. I'm just making that up. I feel like someone told me that. But instead of being refunded, one of the what? One of our amazing listeners is giving up their roots picnic ticket. Okay. Not even getting refunded because she got it like that. You know, doesn't even care.

Just giving it away. Giving it to the culture. And she was like, hey, you guys should give it away to a fan. And I thought, what a great idea. So instead of doing that, I'm actually going to take the ticket and use it as an extra ticket for one of my hose. So I just want to make that clear. There will be no ticket giveaway.

Yeah, I don't know what she thought we were going to do with that. Yeah, I don't know. Except bring more hose to the venue. No, but let's come up with a cool way to give this ticket away. I think with the timing, it would make sense to make it just Philly specific. Like, not even Tri-State. Like, you just got to be in Philly. Yeah, be in Philly already.

Be in the area. And if you have nothing on your agenda Saturday or Sunday, just pull up. I think. Wait, is the ticket for both days? I think it's a pass. Demaris. Yes, it's a pass. All right. Okay.

So I think let's get even greedier. We should make this Patreon specific. Yeah. You got to be on Patreon. Got to be on Patreon and you got to have nice tits. Can we do it like that? What? Like let us, can we see some tits for the ticket?

No, tit for tat. Tip for tat. You're right. Let's call it tip for tat. Demaris, what do you think? I'm fine with that. Getting canceled for that? All right, let's do it. Tit for tat.

Let's do it, baby. You would have done great in the Marty Girl, Girls Going Wild Era. It just took beads. We have roots picnic. tickets. Look how times have changed. Exactly. One thing I will say about... They were giving the beads away for free. Beads. Show me your tits and I'm going to throw

some beads at you. What a culture? What culture is that? I believe white people have been in there. Dorelands. Yeah, that's pretty white. That's white people should. That's white. Thank you for that, Rory. Because yeah, yeah, you have to find something of absolute no value just to forget it. I'll go to throw some beads. I think it would be nice if we do some fake type of scavenger hunt. And by that, I mean, simply

put like some merch or something. some weird location in Philly. Take a picture of it, like in a small frame. Throw it on Patreon and say if you find the shit. Let's put the ticket. Let's put something in the same Chinese restaurant that Meek used to go to. Send them to the hood. What projects are still standing in Philly?

You want to go to the roots? We're going to put something. Go to that Chinese. I don't know the name of it, but go to that one that Meek used to wrap in front of. Go to that. Matter of fact, you have to go exactly where Black Thought grew up. Like to his career I'm gonna ask him

His old adress. Go to Questlove's barbershop And then sweep up There you go And then you'll get the ticket I was listening to A Black Thought Podcast episode

I think it was the champs Neil Brennan's And he was saying Questlove What was that shit That happened in Philly Where the cops like blew up The whole fucking block Oh they dropped the bombs on the houses

Yeah I forgot the name of it That was a really really tragic That wasn't like Was that the 70s? No, it was later than that. There's a great documentary about that too. I believe that was the late 70s, if I'm not mistaken, the Philly bombing.

I almost wanted to say late 80s. It could have been the 80s. 1985. Yeah, all right, okay. Right in the middle. 85, yeah. And Black thought it was saying, like, everyone thinks like Quest Love is like the super nerdy guy. Like he's from that block.

Like his house almost got blown up in that shit. Like Quest is from like one of the wildest blocks in Philly. Yeah. That was a that was a And prayers and condolences to those families That still you know So many years ago But I'm pretty sure that has affected them forever

What was the name? I mean they put a name to it The Move bombing Yes That's what they called it Yeah It might have been the name of the block The Move bombing

Because I thought they was looking for like A suspect or something They were But it was all I feel like they even had the wrong house And I believe they called it an accident Yeah Like they tried to say it was an accident

The move bombing in Philadelphia police dropped a bomb on West Philly in West Philly House in 1985. The fire caused by the explosion killed 11 people. Yeah. Anya, I think they bombed the fucking wrong crib. That's crazy as fuck.

We have a ticket. We have a ticket to give a pass to giveaway. So are we announcing that on Patreon to Maris? Yes. Announcing that on Patreon will announce how you can get the pass for both days at the Roots Picnic this weekend. So I guess stay tuned on Saturday

morning because we're going to go down relatively early and look at your Patrions and we'll post a picture as soon as we get to Philly and can watch us also argue about where we're going to put it on Patreon. Yeah. The lineup

came out yesterday but they put out the times and everything. So I just want to let people know that Rory and I will be off the stage at 850 sharp so we can go see summer at 9. Absolutely. All right.

If the show's going well, I'll stay. I know Mall will abandon me. I am leaving. There's no way I'll stay at Mr. Summer Walker at 9 o'clock. I saw her at Brockley City. It's worth running over to. I will be front and center watching Summer Walk. I know people have given her a lot of shit for her live performances in the past.

And you know what? As a summer fan, rightfully so. Broccoli City, I'm being unbiased. She stepped that shit up immensely. She sounds so good live. She's not in her fucking just. like super insecure bags. She's getting more comfortable.

She's getting, you know, she's kind of settling into the fact that people love to see her live and love to hear her perform. Yeah, so either way, I don't care if she's, if people think she does terrible Sunday, I will be supporting front and center. So he's going to say screaming. No, I will not be screaming.

I'll be supporting. So do you think, I mean, because, you know, you're so invested, are you going to be like the side stage guy, like supporting her from like stage right? Are you going to be in the photo pit? Are you going to be in front of house because you want to see the whole experience? Are you going to be one of the people and just want to be like, I want to be around the summer fans and sing with them? It depends.

It depends if I can get a good spot in front of the stage. Okay. Then cool. If not, you know, side stage work. Gotcha. And do you think you'll do maybe some like IG videos and be like, Summer's killing it? No. No, I won't be done.

I've been to summer shows before and I've never recorded iTunes. video said she's killing it. I mean, we know. You play the back. Trying to show her like, yo, you can move around with me. Yeah, I'll keep it a secret. I keep it a secret.

Won't nobody know I'm here. No, but she's great, man. I just want to hear, and I haven't seen her perform any of the new album yet. So that's why I really want to make sure I get to the stage by 9 o'clock. A lot of plants. A lot of plants are on stage. A lot of plants will be in my pocket.

So listen, it goes hand in hand. I get it. Also, cameo. We are now live on Cameo DeMaris, yes? Yes. Camio. Shout out the Cameo. We are now live.

New Rorya Mall. Damaris, you can tell us more because I don't have any information on it. So as of right now, we are accepting fan requests for videos. So just go on there, search Rory and Mall, and you'll be able to see our price point. And yeah, get exclusive shoutouts from Rory and Moll. Exclusiveness. You'll have that opportunity, too. but we're still thinking of a price point for businesses

because we're gonna. Yeah. We're trying to take you off for all y'all got. We got a really thing about the businesses. But I'm gonna ask, if you say exclusive shoutouts, like I'm gonna ask for something exclusive. Yeah, absolutely. But I mean, if I did cameo as if like,

went and purchased from people that I fuck with, I would ask them to do some wild shit. Absolutely. Why not? I'm paying for it like, just give it a shot. People might be open to doing it. I think I'm setting myself up right now for this. this, but like, I mean, no, do this happy birthday shit on one leg.

On one leg? You giving them ideas, nice. He ain't about to have me doing no crazy shit like that. Didn't again, nah, fuck it. I'll have fun. I'll have fun without fans. I will until it gets too much, and then I'm treated like, only fans. Be like, yo, you got to tip me.

It's not just the subscription. You got a tip, too. So check us out on Cameo. We are live now. Yeah, man, let's have some fun with this shit. I don't want no corny request. Let's do some cool shit. It's going to be all cornered.

What would be a corny request? I don't know. Say hello to my cat. What? How's that corny? You want me to speak into a camera? Say hello to someone's cat. They're going to pay you and they're going to be like,

be like, sips, sp, sp, sp, sp, sp, sp, s. Yeah. Or I'm going to get on there and ask for you, pay $25 for Bays. You asking me to give Bays a shout out. No, but I'm going to pay for it. Like, it's going to go in your request. Like, you're not even going to know.

Prepaid. Like, you're going to have to owe it. Oh, but anyways, every time we have these in-between days of, days off. I really don't check shit. It's only when we have the longer days with the weekend. But I see BET Awards is here. The BET Awards are upon us. Yes. Nominees came out. When is

BETA awards, Mayer? June 25th, I believe. Right. Sounds about right. Oh, that's just very close. I did do all this voting. I actually did it. Well, it's not like, well, I think they record June 25th. I'm not sure when it air. So, yeah, so it's going to air June 26. June 26? Okay. At 8 p.m. Eastern. Well, I was a

judge. Wow. And I did do all the votes. Just I voted for Ari Lennox on everything. Okay. So let's look at some of the. And that's where I feel like, because this is my second time being like a judge on an award show.

Like, not judge, but someone that votes in each category. Let me give you guys. The committee, if you will. Here's the nominees. For Best Female and you guys could choose who you guys would want. You got to say it in your MC Light voice. Not in your Edwara. I have no I'm saying.

And pick just the big categories. We don't have to go through all this shit. Best female R&B pop artists. Ari Lennox, Chloe, Dojicat, her, Jasmine Sullivan, Mary J. Blige, Summer Walker. You're doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong. He's doing the MC Light Voice wrong? Yeah. I can't do it. Let me try. Let me try.

How you say light in Spanish? Best female R&B pop artists, Ari Lennox, Chloe, Dojicatat, her, Jasmine Sullivan, Mary J. Blage, and Summer Walker. I just want to make something clear about this best female R&B pop artists First of all, why are they combining R&B pop artists? I was a little confused when I was looking two days ago at it Because like Lucky Day was in pop and I was like Yeah, lucky day see lucky day in the weekend together just isn't

Well let's MCD MCD baby D Give us the best male R&B pop artist category Best Male R&B Pop Artist category Best male R&B pop artists Blast Chris Brown Givion

Lucky Day The weekend Wiz Kid and Young Blue MC Cright Yeah I just don't like She's Crip I just don't like

The fact that they got Lucky Day in the weekend And the same Because Lucky Day is The best male R&B artist right now Yeah I'm not

And But the weekend is such a huge artist But I mean How the BETT Awards work And how Unfortunately the music business works.

Could there be just a standing pop category because they try so hard to keep black artists out of pop? I think it could be a... But I mean, first of all, all music is black music, number one. So it doesn't... You can have a pop artist category at the BT Awards. Celtic Irish staff dancing is ours, but you can have everything else.

I believe they stole that from... I'm sure. From Sammy Davis. Those back to backpipes come from Rick James. MCD, give us the best best group. Y'all aren't picking people. Oh, well, for best female Army pop artists,

I'm going with Summer Walker. Well, I pick mine. Am I going against my NDA? But it's just hard. It's for Summer, Jasmine. That's hard, man. Jasmine had a great year. I don't know.

I'm excited for this. I do want to figure out this judging thing with the committees. There's got to be another way. Because I found myself right people in the right categories. I think that makes it easier. Here's the thing.

I will be, I will say something that I'm sure anyone that's been on any committee from Grammy to VT to anyone that's allowed to vote for categories. I found myself being biased. Yeah, he just said he voted for Ari in every category.

Like I found myself, I was like, this kind of isn't fit. I have relationships with a lot of these people. And granted, I know how to be objective and I was objective on almost all of it. But I found myself, I don't think people are as objective as me. So I found myself

like, oh, fuck, I can't do that. Just because I love this person doesn't mean they should win here. No, I voted for whoever I felt I enjoyed the album. Yes. That's what I did. But I just feel like who they put on committees obviously works in the music industry and probably has a lot of ties

to a lot of these people. So it becomes kind of weird. And then I don't know if you could just do the fan vote, because then I'd also say fans are stupid and now you're just going with someone that probably was marketed the best that's going to have the biggest fan base. So I don't even know how to Chris Brown was the fan vote every year, I feel like. I don't think I've ever seen anyone win.

I get. Like the fan choice. Well, Maul, even you saying I voted for whoever's album I played or I liked the most, even that's biased in a way. That doesn't say it's not biased. I'm not in business with any of these artists. No, but what I'm saying is you're voting for what album you liked the most. That's all I can do.

No, no, no, no. It's music is subjective. It's what they're asking you is which album do you. you think is the best. Well, if I'm listening to it the most, that's the one I think is the best. Okay, but, all right, let's do the sports comparison again. Like, if you liked watching the Sons the most this year, they're not in the finals, nor do they deserve to be because they lost.

Yeah, but they will be nominated. Yeah, but you can't pick the Sons to be NBA champions. No, but that's different because they have to actually, that's a sport. They have to play the finals. Okay, but you can say there is some competitive sport within, whether it be sales, popularity, impact, even down to skill, down to everything. That's why this shit is so hard to do award shows. Yeah, but there is a way to do it, except for Billboard.

Music is subjective. Sports, we know. It's a winner and there's a loser. There's nothing to debate about that. Like, a Knicks fan can't tell me that the Knicks are better than the Warriors. Like, well, he can, but I'll be looking at him like, oh, okay. You look crazy, but I. Okay, but you could say as a Michael Jackson fan, if someone came up to you of just an artist

that they love, like they mans in them. be like he's better than Michael Jackson. You'd be like, no, he's not clearly. Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying. But I just, there's ways to do that. I think that, first of all of these nominees had great projects. Sure. There's some that, like, I listen to Jasmine Sullivan's album,

but I don't think I listen to Jasmine's albums as much as I listen to Summer's album. Okay, but do you think that Jasmine's album is a better album than Summer? I listen to Chloe more than anybody on, Chloe singles more to anybody on this list. That doesn't mean that she had the best song. It doesn't mean that she had. Because if I were being objective, no matter what, Jasmine had the best album. Jasmine wins no matter what. And to me it's not even close. But I might throw on that summer shit before if I'm at the crib with somebody before I'll throw on the Jasmine, knowing the

Jasmine album is a better album. Okay. That's why I worked with making no fucking sense. It's a whole committee people vote and I guess they just tally those votes up in. But who the fuck are we? Maul said, I said what I said. I voted for Summer. I thought Summer's album was crazy. And like the numbers that she did, like, you know what I mean? Like she did shit that Beyonce, only Beyonce Lemonade did. Also, true, but Nancy, now you're getting into when I say the son, you can't say the sons are NBA champions. No. Because they're, they lost.

That's saying Summers is the best because she sold just as much as lemonade and the rest of them didn't. No, I mean, I seem to. And then that doesn't go down to, that might be the album I enjoyed the most. But that's why, that's why it's a committee of people. We all put our votes in based on how we feel. And then somebody, I guess, takes those votes in. Or we could totally be wrong. And somebody already has all of this shit.

Oh, for sure. who they want to name as best whatever. I just feel like we should open the world up to shame everyone that's on the committee. You should have to stand by your vote to the public. Yeah, they should be able to see it. If the Grammys want to update ratings, put profile pictures of everyone who voted and what they voted for. Absolutely. Let's really go crazy.

That's what we want to see. We want to see who voted for. We want to see violence. Yeah, absolutely. Best male R&B pop artists. It's hard not to go with the way. weekend, man. It's hard.

I mean, Lucky Day's album is fucking crazy. They shouldn't be in the same capital. Yeah, they shouldn't. It's hard not to go with the weekend because the weekend is the weekend, but I mean, Lucky Day's album is phenomenal. And I like, oh, I like Blast. I love Chris Brown. All of these are obviously talented artists, but for me, if Best Male R&B Pop Art,

R&B pop artists would have to be the weekend. And then the bias also comes in with like, oh, I'd like to see that person getting a war. Yep. Even if they don't deserve it, you feel like. oh, they deserve an award, but in this category, they don't deserve this award

compared to these people. I don't know. I just, I'm complaining without a solution. I just don't understand these committees and how they work. Best new artist.

Baby Keen, Benny the butcher, Lotto, money long, Tim's Young Blue. Now, you're going to see her, look me in my eye

and tell me, you ain't vote for Benny? I didn't even see that. I don't even see that category. Because one, I don't think Benny is a new artist. That's what I started like, finding myself in this.

I'm like, Like, if I'm going off new artists to the public for real, like, who are the nominees again? I think Lotto or Thames would have been the real pick for best new artists. Even though they've been doing work before this, they're new as far as the masses go. Baby Keam, Benny the Butcher, Lotto, Money Long, Thames, and Young Blue. You got to go with Tim's.

You got to go with Tim's. I mean, that's who I voted for. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. Yeah, I think you keep telling who you. That was the only one that I admitted, I think. You told her she voted for Ari. And everybody. Oh, I was just, I was joking around.

I did vote for Ari. So you didn't vote for Ari. In certain categories. Ari! Rory out here not vote for you. Nah, she going, though. Because if she's not accepting the award. Ari is definitely going to the BET Awards.

Is she? Is she? I don't know what that. She can know Ari going to put that carpet. She was at the last one. She was. I remember one year she was really upset. Yeah, I think her in summer sat next to each other at the last one.

She didn't get nominated. for, oh, that was the soul so I'm sorry, that was the Soul Train Award. Well, she had every right to go on that, that Twitter rant with the Soul Train Awards. Because she was like the only person still making Soul Music and she was losing every character. It's like, wait, y'all wanted soul music

and then I can't even win at the Soul Train Awards. They got to get these nominees in a category. Not so much the nominees, but they got to categorize things a little better. And I would be pissed. Like, all right, you want to slight me for a Grammy? I get it. Soul Music isn't the shit that normally wins at the Grammys.

But at the Soul Train Awards, and I make the best most popular, and I'm the youngest soul music pushing it forward. And I'm losing in every category? Fuck award shows. Best collaboration, WizKid featuring Justin Bieber. Oh, so I was pissed. Get.

DJ Khalid featuring Lil Baby and Lil Dirt every chance I get. Baby Keeman, Kendrick Lamar, family ties. Doja Cat featuring Siza, Kiss Me More. That is the winner. Drake featuring Future and Young Thug, way too sexy. Bea featuring Nikki Minaj a whole lot of money remix. Listen, I don't think

Kiss Me More is the biggest record by far in this. But as far as Impact, Essence should win. Fire. And I don't know if they added the Justin Bieber shit there just to help it win. But I was mad when I saw it like,

I mean, Bebs is on the remix that people don't play. Yeah, exactly. Like, no one plays that. But I think Essence had, Kiss Me More, obviously, was one of the biggest records period of the last year and a half. Exactly. Essence, I think, had more impact than any record, period.

I agree. Tim's is the one right now, man. We all know that. Video of the year. Baby Keem and Kendrick Lamar family ties. Chloe, have mercy. Doja Cat featuring Siza Kiss Me More. Ari Lennox pressure.

Silk Sonic smoking out the window. Drake featuring Future and Young Thug Way Too Sexy Ari. Pressure was a great video. Smoking out the window wasn't the first joint, right? No. Okay, because that was a great video. I mean, y'all know who I voted for. Actually, I mean, honestly, and you know I love Ari.

If Ari doesn't win that, I think Chloe deserves it. Honestly, Chloe's video was amazing. Yeah. That's just me. Chloe's video looked like a Beyonce video. Listen, man, I just want to know who the performers are, the run of show. Yeah. Who's hosting?

Like, the categories are going to be the categories. The wins are going to be the wins. I don't think fans are as attached to their artist winning or losing the way they used to be. Even though Stan culture is at its highest, I still feel like even the dumbest stands are just like, who cares at this point? It's dope if they win. If they don't, it doesn't define their career or if they're any better or less than the artist in the category. So put on some great performances. Have some laughs.

That's the important. Yeah. Just have a good night. Honor. Celebrate everyone. Celebrate black music. celebrate black entertainment celebrate your favorite records

your favorite songs your favorite moments celebrate everyone but Stevie Wonder according to you I mean they haven't named it yet they haven't named who's getting the Lifetime Achievement Award this year but if it's Stevie

it's because of you right because of you guys The Mall effects it ain't gonna be Stevie I know they're not that shit gonna be Burr man they're gonna give it to somebody that just like was born in like

98 that's their lifetime like how Like the disrespect to Stevie Wonder is fucking insane. Speaking of disrespect and legends and honorary. So apparently MTV Movie and TV Awards, the unscripted awards, has a thing of award they're giving out called the reality royalty award. Now, if I could ask you guys who the reality royalty award, which is to celebrate achievements and relevance in reality TV. over the years.

Who would you give it to? Mona Scott would be the first. Your top three? Wait, like you're saying period. Yes. Oh. There are no wrong answers other than the person they... No, I just don't want to be wrong

and disrespect the OGs of reality TV. Give me the OGs of reality TV if you want. I mean, obviously Kim would be... Well, no, Chris would be number one. Okay, cool. What? One of the OGs of reality. The top three.

Chris slash Ryan Seacrest, they're the, they're the duo. Yeah. I'm Mona, of course. I know there's been so much other reality TV world. I'm not talking about the people creating it. I'm talking about the stars. Well, that's why I put Chris first, but I'm just putting Mona there. You got Flav of Flav of Flav.

I was just about to say. No, Flavor Flav. Flav of Flav is the biggest reality star. Flav of Flav. Is he? Absolutely. The biggest? No.

Flav of the biggest? He set off every other fucking show for the next 15 years. What I mean by that is, yes, favorite flave, yes. But when you think of flavor of love, who do you think of flavor of flave? New York. Thank you. I don't think of New York. Most people, like, Flav is Flav is Flav, yes.

But the biggest star to come out of flavor of love was not Flav. It wasn't. Well, he was already a superstar. He was already a star. And that's when I say reality star, a person who was a reality star, not a celebrity who went into reality television. I would say a lot of Flav's fan base has never listened to It takes a nation. Like, they didn't know he was public enemy.

Yeah. Like, that, to me, that Flav of Flav became bigger as a reality TV personality than he was as an artist. Of course. But we're talking about people who literally... Like, the first time we seen them was reality on a reality TV show. Yes. Because, all right, well, that takes away. I was going to say Ozzy Osbourne.

When you're talking about reality. But that was so long ago. That was a big show. That was one of the biggest... That kind of really pop reality off. But his dad... His dad is his dad. dad though like yeah exactly

he was famous straight from made it out the mud reality television shows if you were to give somebody a reality royalty award who was your top 3B I didn't watch any of the basketball wives and all that other shit so I don't know in that world and I know they'll kill us for that because I know that's popular but you know who them you said basketball wives

or whatever all them wives even even really know what when you think of that Nini Leaks thank you you think of Nini right you never watch them before I know who she is okay do you guys know who Beth Anthony Frankel is. No. Okay.

That's who's getting the award. Oh, all right. If you're saying that, then I could ring off Jocelyn 100%. Cardi B. Yes. Cardi B. Number one. Erica Mena, the legend.

Like, I could really go if that's who's winning. Stevie J. Well, not, Steve Jay was known before. Yeah, Steve. Yeah. So the MTV Awards are recognizing her. Bethany Franklin? Yes.

Which show does she come from? Bethany Frankel was originally on the Apprentice, the Martha Stewart version. but she came in second place. But what she's really known for is Real Housewives in New York. She was on there from 2008 to 2019. But that's a whole other world.

She might be, she might deserve that outside of what we've watched. Well, in MTV, it goes to Bethany. If it was BET doing this, it would go to Cardi. Right. No, why would it go to Cardi?

For Nini. Why would it go to Cardi? Why would it go to Cardi? She did the most from reality TV, but she only did one season of reality TV. Yeah, she's not a reality TV. She's done the most. She's a star.

No, she's just a star now. She's just a star. There's no reality TV about it. Yeah, but you said somebody that we nobody never knew nothing about, and she started at reality TV. Okay, but what would she be known most for now? Not reality TV. Oh, now she's known for music.

Yeah, but most people would know her from, like most people know her for music. People don't know her as a reality TV star. Reality royalty, I don't. She's not reality TV royalty. She's not reality TV. She was on it for seven episodes. She, but her presence, her personality was so big.

For seven. Her personality was so big. She had some of the biggest moments in reality TV. Had she never wanted to rap or become an artist, she would have stayed on love and hip hop and probably would have got her own spinoff and become a whole reality TV star. I don't doubt that at all.

She may have ended up. She's a star. Of course, she became who she is. She would have been a reality TV star, but she found something, I think, way more lucrative and important and a little bit more depth. When I think of reality, royalty, I'm thinking of people who impacted

the reality TV game. Like who impacted that game. So flavor of love and that entire thing, that impacted the game. Celebrity Big Brother impacted the game. The Kardashians, as much as people talk shit about them. So what, this award is going just, is it for an award show? No, it's like a life, it's for

the MTV unscripted. It's like an offset of the MTV movie awards and things like that. But it's going to her and when I read it, I was just appalled. Flabagast it? Because I'm like, okay, fine. If y'all not going to give it Tiffany Polard, who is who deserves it. If you're not going to give it to Tiffany Polard,

if you're not going to give it to Nini Leaks, that's fine. Give it to Chris. I'm cool with that. But who, I know who Bethany Frankel is, but in no way or she performed, does she have the type of impact on pop culture, especially being that this is an MTV Award, does she have the type of influence on pop culture

the way that a Nini Leaks or Tiffany Polard or... Not their network, right? Nope. So there you go. But to close out all this gossipy award show shit, it since I feel like because couples are such a marketing tool and like big in hip hop now and like it's been a thing thing for close to I don't know are we coming close to a decade on the couples being the thing in hip hop when did it start I mean I don't even really want to count like the JNBs

because they were just getting older into an age where people should be in like long-term relationships you're talking about dating I'm saying the younger the younger artist going from you could never ever say you had a girl because you had the market that you was demand and all I do is fuck bitches. I'll never ever wife a chick like y'all are crazy. To now, it almost doesn't work unless you're in a high profile relationship as a young artist to really be up there.

So why don't we get a category that Jason Lee hosts and get real messy and we do best couple? 50 awards? Best rapper couple. Let's stir it up. Jason Lee. Because they will get on IG and couples. goal us to death for a month to try to campaign.

They do that anyway, though. I know, but imagine if Jason Lee did an award show for it. Oh, my God. They definitely be trying to give us best couple. Like, look at us. We're so happy. Y'all both cheating on each other. Cut it out.

I mean, maybe it's an open relationship. There you go. Maybe. I don't think so, but maybe. And that could be part to add on to the best couple. Yeah. I'm with it. All right, here's the thing.

If they're in an open relationship, do the people they also fuck get part of the award? does everyone get a trophy? And our throuples allowed. I let Jason Lee put all the rules together, but... They're coupled up. He's going to be offended by this. Who's going to be offended by it?

Jason Lee. Why? I don't know. I have no opinion about him. I think it's great what he's built. No, Jason Lee is cool. I'll fuck with Jason Lee. I have not a single bad word to say about him.

I just know if you say his name and don't say he's the goat, he gets mad at you. No, I don't like... Unless you're saying Jason Lee is the great. I think Jason Lee is the greatest of all time. Don't say his fucking name. I don't think he's that full of himself. He's not that guy.

Jason Lee is cool. I think for the interviews and stuff, he'll hype it up because that sells, and I appreciate and respect that because there's a craft to that and he's really good at it. But, no, I'm not saying a single bad word about Jason Lee. I think it's amazing what he has built, whether you agree with the content he posts or not. I think it's ill what he's created. So, yo, Jason, I think you the goat. Just to make that clear?

Yeah. And if you want me to co-produce the best couples thing, I won't offer anything but laughs. I won't know what to do. I won't know who's the greatest couple. But the greatest couple right now. If we had the name one. Oh, we're getting our super guy. We never do this.

This is great. I mean, it's BETT time. It's BETT Awards time. Okay. Let's give out the best couple award. Can you guys tell me the couples? I know. This is off the cuff.

Moneybag and Ari. I don't like that. Diddy? Why you don't like that? I just don't like that. What they did? So what the. fucking my name of couples for it?

No, I just... That's your ex. It has tears. Never mind. Go ahead. Who's the next couple? I don't know anything about them. But I know people talk about the Ari girl all the time. And I mean that respectfully. I just don't know. But they're very popular, right?

My timeline is full of everyone just talking about her. Moneybag and Ari? Yeah. No, yeah, they're definitely one of the most popular couples for sure. Okay. What's the reason? Outside of love. Young Miami and...

Well, Ari looks great. And Moneybag is... one of the hottest rappers right now. All right. Yeah. That's all it takes. Yeah, that's all it takes.

I already got a fat ass. She's pretty, though. She's pretty, though. She's pretty though. Oh, gotcha. Ah, so I see, now I see all the internet's invested. Got you.

Hottest rapper, attractive girl, rapper, baby father. Oh, yeah, yeah. That should be a reality show. No, it shouldn't. And Wack 100 should produce it.

Oh, my God. With Jason Lee. at blueface's house fam that would that production would first of all production on that would never start number one but that would never see the light you know how fun of this talk about gossip when you literally don't know anyone involved

and know I have no idea if you're saying something that is offensive I just found out Spider-Man is in day dating yeah that's a better thing though even I knew that I have I did not know that that's why she's in the movie that is not why she's in the movie don't do that

you look like Peter Parker now that I'm looking at you from this angle right here. Don't do that. Please take out that I said that that's why she's in the movie. Because I know that's not why she's in the movie. Even though I killed that movie

when we watched it. I actually was the dead one I liked in that fucking movie. But oh man, y'all didn't know that. I didn't know Zendaya and what's his name? He just saw him. Please don't call him Spider-Man.

I didn't know Spider-Man. He's the current Spider-Man. He is, but he didn't say I didn't know Roo and Spider-Man were in a relationship. Yeah, I didn't know that they were in a relationship. But happy birthday to Tom. Is that his name?

Yes, Tom Holland. Happy birthday. My actual favorite. How you know that? That's how I found out they were dating. Like he posted a picture. She posted a picture of him and I was like. Oh, okay.

I was like, wait, they're dating? Well, that's how most people find out famous or not that someone's dating somebody. When birthdays come around, I was like, fuck. You hang out with them all the time and you don't know they're dating until they post a pic. You're like, wait, y'all together? Yeah. Hung out nine times and didn't know y'all was together. That's funny.

All right. So who else is left? Isn't a little baby with somebody that everyone loves? I can't keep up with them. They're off and all. on again. So that might be a great. That's my favorite couple.

Yeah, I'm about to say they might win just off of that. Love finds a way. They're going to be the ones that last. Yeah, they're going to find love is going to find a way. They're going to be together. That's just how love works. So, yeah, that probably, they will probably win it. Oh, Dirk in India.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, Dirk in India. That seems to be a favorite couple out there. It's great. Yeah, man. Tay Diggs and Lil Phizbe, Mom. Don't do that. Her name is April.

April. Wait, Tate Diggs is Dayton, April? Yes. Did you find out on his birthday? I found out. No, I found out on the internet. They just started doing a bunch of videos together, and I was like, oh.

You know why toxic love lasts and why on and off last, and we're talking about reality TV. Yeah, because you just go fuck somebody else real quick and come back to the person. Yeah, you feel, yeah, you feel fine. Yeah. What's from Love and Hip Hop Atlanta? Rashida and we all thought he was gay.

Kurt? Kurt. I think I just saw something go past my timeline that they still together. I'm like, look at love. Yeah, they're still together. Look at love. Love works, man. After you together for a certain amount of years.

I'm not clowning them at all. Love works. Listen, when you're together for a certain amount of years, after a while, nobody wants you. That's the way love goes. No, people probably want both of them. No, no, but what I'm saying is, because that sounded bad. But what I'm saying is it's like, people will date,

like if you and your girl, if you and your wife are together and y'all split and y'all, whatever, right? Nobody, people are going to always know that, yo, listen, we together and we dating and we fucking or whatever and vacations and all that, but I know who you really love. Like, I know who you really want to be with. That's true. And then, sure enough, when y'all stop dating, who would they end up back with?

Yeah, it just sucks, and I'm saying it's not gender specific. It just sucks when the person you love is a hoe. Yeah. So sometimes you have to take that vacation with someone else. Oh, no, no, no. It's not I. I just feel like I got to console my guy every time. It's not I.

I'm not in love with the hoe. He's projecting? I've been there, though. I've been there, though. I've been there, though. I can tell it just started. I can tell it just. hits a certain chord in your heart.

That wasn't one of the chords that Shorty pulled out of you. I wish she broke the whole cord. Yeah, she didn't. It might still be there. I see it. It's right there. My heart's the sister. That's what plays the music.

Oh, all right. So best couple, we gave it out. We didn't, did we give an award? No. All y'all win. Love wins in the end. Love wins in the end. God damn it.

Chloe and Gunna, best new couple. Get the fuck. Who? Chloe and who? Isn't Chloe and Gunna together? No, they're not. together. She left him already?

No, she wasn't going to hold it down? She been saying they weren't together. We'll save that. That's another topic, though. Women like doing that. No, we wasn't together. Stop.

Because if my album was, if I was still on these streets, you would still be in this car with me. So yes, we would still be dating. Don't do that. You were supposed to hold it down. Yeah. Why the fuck?

Shushy. Thought she was right. Because love wins. Yeah. Child. So I had a princess, he's the best rapper alive after his LA leakers freestyle.

Never heard a rapper say that before after they rap. Let's be very clear. Saha is one of the best rappers. I will say that. The best rapper? Why does that still work? As marketing.

Why do we fall for that every time and still discuss it? Why does top five we fall for every time and completely will debate it? We haven't debated it. Oh, no, we're not going to debate this. And best rapper alive. Why do we always fall for it?

Yeah, because it's always nice to tell people how dumb they sound sometimes. Well, I don't think Sahai sounds dumb saying that. No, not Sa'i. Sahai has a case for sure. He's one of the best rappers. Anytime he does LA leakers, it's one of the best ones. Anytime he freestyles on any platform is some of the best bars that we have. So, yeah, I'm not mad at Sa'i.

And you're supposed to feel like you're the best when you do something. So I'm not mad at them. We have to change. We're changing a lot of narratives in hip-hop, which I'll love. Everyone's getting in the mental health bag. We're getting into the young people being in relationships and not cheating. We should get into the self-awareness bag now. And it should be like okay for a rapper to be like, yo, I think I'm top 15 alive right now. Or like, yo, maybe I'll fall in like 32 at the current moment, but I'm going to improve. All I like to do this. Whoever

the people think is the best 15 rap is alive, I would like to look at. I would like to look at at that list and see where Saha'i, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people on that list that Saha rap's better than, for sure. I don't care about people putting together because that gets back into our judge conversation of like, who the fuck is you in your opinion? So, yeah, so who should put the list together? I just feel like maybe people should stop saying best rapper or life. But you should believe that you're the best at what you do.

No? Not if you're- Especially when it's a competitive, as competitive as rap. See, I guess I view being competitive much different. If I feel like I'm the best, if I actually, feel that way? I wouldn't be as competitive. Usually people say it.

And I'm self-aware to know that I'm not the best yet. So let me keep working. Yeah, but you're not supposed to feel like you the best unless you hit a certain level, I feel like. I understand the confidence. I just think that shit is misguided sometimes. And I know a lot of rappers just say that to say it. Yeah, no, a lot of rappers just say it.

And it's like, you should have the confidence to go into that studio and know that your craft is at a certain level. And you will going in to be the best or continue to one up yourself because you can be competitive that same way. If you're not, people are just saying that for the fuck of it now. So let me ask you something. Do you feel like... And I don't feel like they feel that.

Do you feel like... So who's your favorite rapper alive? Are we asking rapping? Yeah, just right. Not albums, not songs. Rap. Just rap. Just rap.

Like active currently? Yeah, alive. Hmm. Because every rapper that you would think is the best rapper right now. Yes, out of them, that's alive. Not Pock, not big, not, you know.

Can I say people that I think are like past their prime and do not care about rapids, just making shit? As long as they're alive. Because that was his statement. Best rapper alive. Yeah, but you can't say that if you're not. Can't say the best rapper alive.

You're not really rapping. You was the best rapper alive. No, I'm still alive. And nobody still did better than me. So nobody outwrap me. I'm still alive. I'm just not in the ring currently. Fair.

I wish you would have asked me that question to give me an hour to think. Yeah, that hour to think about it. That's how sorry might have a case. Oh, Saha, as far as rapping, rapping, Saha would be very high up. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Obviously, we know the J, the Naz, the M&N.

I'm talking about rapping like leakers, like just rapping. Yeah. I would love to see Jay do that. Oh, so what I? I would love to see Nause do that. But not now. Why not? No, I would like to see them do it now,

but I wouldn't judge them in the way that I'm judging a very now active saha, the way Hove went in and did flex over the fucking Grammy family beat. Like, I would want Nas around that it was written in shape time to do leakers. I wouldn't judge him the same way. I know he would go in there and smoke as leakers shit,

and I would love to see him do that. Like, Fab's Leakers was great. But it wasn't Fab, Clue Fab, and that's fine and should be that way. Fab has moved on to other things. So I can't judge it. that way. I'm a judge fucking Simba's shit

at a certain way. I'm boogies, fucking reasons, all these court A's Russ, Lotto, Big Sean. The baby had a really good LA League as freestyle as well. It was a while ago though, right? No, it was about a couple months ago.

I feel like he's done a few. Maybe two, three months ago. I just get weird with those best rapper a lot of shit, because I just don't know what. I feel you. I mean, it's a bold statement. It's a statement that is overused, I believe. A lot of rappers that are not the best rappers, a lot. I've say that a lot. But I understand it.

It's this rap. You're supposed to feel like you the best. Nobody's better than me. It gets people to talk. We know that. So it does everything you want. It calls out all the other rappers. But then that lasts for like a week and then no one does anything.

All of this lasts for a week. The internet is only a week. But then again, that puts rappers, even the more. that are like ready to rap against anyone in a weird position like I also see if someone says y'all the best rapper ever someone say something not gonna go then out my day if i have a full schedule that week it's like well sahai let me let me cancel my mom sigh hi said he's the best let me let me get back in the booth I get it though man listen sah is one of my favorite rappers uh the story of egot coming soon I'm looking forward to that that was as much as I enjoyed the freestyle I thought

it's great that was my favorite takeaway yeah because sahai makes music that I enjoy I think Cy knows how to make songs. So as much as he can rap, rap. No Dope on Sunday is still one of my favorite projects. Still rotation. So yeah, I'm excited to hear from him and hear what he did on this project. The last project he put out in a very unique way. It was kind of hard to get if you didn't have.

I think it was title. I think it was on it was some streaming. I wasn't even aware he put something out after No Doeot on Sunday. No, he put out something. He put out a lot of visuals to it. I must have missed that. Yeah, it was a lot of people missed. A lot of people didn't know about it

because it was a very unique way that he put the music out and put the, I remember he announced like a, was it like a sketch show or something on title? I thought that was that. He did something around the, I don't want to say Donda. One of those Kanye releases

when Kanye was going crazy on Twitter and I feel like Saha was also going crazy on Twitter and was plugging some comedy sketch show or something that I thought was exclusive with title and then I just never paid attention after that. I don't know if it was comedy. Okay. But I know he put out something.

He was in prison. Yeah. He was supposed to, yeah. Oh, so you added music. Got you. I understand. All right. Well, yeah, I don't think that's a album per se.

No, no, no. It was a, he was just showing it. He was in his artistry bag. But a lot of people missed that. They didn't. They didn't see that. Obviously, you didn't. Yeah, and I have title.

But, yeah, the story of E. I'm looking forward to that. Shout out to Saha, L.A. Lika, freestyle. Another one. Since we've been debating and I'm going to ask this with no bias, despite him making that weirdo-ass comment on IG about me and not mine in this fucking business.

Wait, who? Flex Freestyles versus L.A. Leakers. I'm talking about current. I'm not talking about the legacy that is the Funkmaster Flex freestyle. Talking about once he started this new series versus L.A. Leakers right now. L.A. Lakers.

I think Lakers is kicking his fucking ass. Oh, yeah, yeah. I do like the unique picks that Flex does, which I don't think Flex makes any of them. I think someone tells him that because you can see how uninterested he is when he gets one of those unique ones. Outside of that, though, I think, I mean, Leakers is

smoking. No, Leakers is smoking. It holds a different level of prestige in the freestyle world right now, only because the groundwork that the artists that come up to LA Yeah.

Got some really, really classic And Flex is, you know, obviously a radio legend DJ. He's had some great freestyles on his platform as well. But I think right now today, L.A. Leak is the one that people look to the most. And shit, I even think balls on I-9-5 is better than Flex right now. Oh, I've spoken very highly. I think bars on I-95 on I-9-5 is another one of my favorite freestyle platforms right now. But shout out to, you know, all of them.

to Flex, shout out to bars on I-995, shout out to LA Leakers. Yeah, I've even spoken to AB from I-95 a few times on texting on the phone. Shout out to Charlie Sloth, too. Charlie Sloth has a great freestyle platform for artists as well, too. I just, I don't want that to ever die. Like, I love that specifically with leakers and even I-95, when they catch a big, big name, it becomes like a moment. Even if it's a quick moment, it's a moment, and it's still freestine and the shit that I've enjoyed growing up. And with Flex, it's going to come across like I'm saying something negative I'm not. LA leakers, I think, just with the younger kids,

just based of Justin and Sour Milk being outside more with the kids, it's revered more. Unless if you're in your 30s, you kind of have to be from New York to be like, oh my God, I'm about to do a flex freestyle. Other than that, it kind of becomes a press run. If you're like a young kid. Because flex, I mean, and granted, flex has stayed relevant in the digital space,

But the bulk of his legacy comes from you had to be able, you were listening to Hot 97. It wasn't like the internet where you could listen to Ebro in the morning in L.A. Because it's on YouTube. So his legacy and where it'd be like the Oshit, Funk Flex freestyle moment kind of had to be there. I still believe Sue Surf has one of the best freestyles on I-995. Oh, for sure. I think that's one of the best freestyles across all freestyle platforms.

Yes, up there. I listen to that a lot. And I was very, we know what Surf does, but I was very impressed by his freestyle on balls on 9-9-5. Yeah. No, Surf did smoke there.

And I hope the bigger artists, I was really hoping Kendrick was going to do one because I love that Cole went up to leakers. I would love to see Drake do one. I love that Sean went up there. Like I just want to see the bigger artists do that to really keep that shit going even from like the, icon status.

Shit, fucking throw a beat on and let's see what Travis could do. Travis Scott? Yeah. Curious. It's a lot of people that stay away from that freestyle shit

for a reason. And as they should, they would tell you I don't know that show. Yeah, that's not their strong suit. That's not what they do. All right, well, Travis Scott delivery.

Let's saw how I go up there and ghost write it. He said he right for everybody. You can't have someone Ghost right your freestyle. Ghost right, everything else. I'm fine. Yeah.

Don't have someone ghost right your freestyle. Let's get into some more of the hip-hop news. Nikki Minaj has been named Maxim Magazine's new creative director. Okay. I see where a lot of these platforms are going. Obviously, Cardi B is with Playboy, their creative director. So Maxim jumped into that lane and was able to see the influence of Cardi over at Playboy

and the revenue that it generated. So now they're grabbing, they're trying to grab Nikki as there, well, they have have grabbed as their new creative director for Maxim. I mean, I think it makes perfect sense. And I like that they're taking people make them creative directors to revamp someone like the iconic publishing stuff that they definitely, listen, Maxim definitely picked the right one. The perfect one. Yeah.

And on top of that, I feel like the new wave of how so many women are trying to look comes from Nikki. Like the women that would be picked for maximum in this era derive a lot of. their beauty looks from Nikki. And I don't know if that's offensive, but... No, I mean, it's... Y'all went and got surgery that looked just like Nikki's. Yeah, but no, Nikki has been, she's been, you know,

she's been looking great for years. From her hairstyles, hair color, you know, her wardrobe. And was the first in the mass, the mass world to look like that of how a lot of these girls look now. Nikki, I think, was the first one to the world. to look like that, yeah, to get that type of surgery per se, think she was the first one to be seen to the masses that way. So.

In the rap world, yes. Sure. Sure, not. And maybe the Dubai world, but. No, I just mean, like, I think Kim, Kim was walking around with the fat ass before, the fake ass before Nikki. Yeah, but I think the, of course, most women, if we go back to the mass shit, would want to look like Kim and all these chicks look like Kim.

But as far as the specific with maximum and the type of women they're going to pick, I think that comes from Nikki. Not Kim. Well, Nikki tweeted, I'm so proud and excited to be the newest Maxim B.E.T. Maxim bet. Is that bet or BT? I have no idea. Well, Maxim investor, advisor, and first global ambassador and creative director of Max Maxim. Make way for the queen of lifestyle sports betting. Get ready for the best parties and more. So yeah, so she's going to give them lifestyle, you know.

Can you get us into the Nikki parties? the Nicki Maximum parties? I'll try. I'll damn Nikki and see. You know, it would be cool with like the whole sneaker culture and supreme culture and like this collector shit.

I know print is not a thing anymore, but I feel like they could make print a thing if they only do a few and like make it a real, like you have to have type way they do with the sneakers and all that other shit, like the bigie Metro cards

and that. I think you could do it with print with a certain amount copies and have them value at a certain rate. So just to clarify specifically, what her deal actually is, is with Maxim Bet. Oh, so let's cancel is this, not Maximum Magazine. Yeah. Yeah.

So what's maximum bet? Max, no, well, Maxim bet is, I guess. It's an offset of, yeah. Oh, in that magazine. Yeah, no, you're fine. It's this, they have a new sports betting lifestyle brand. Right. That was launched last year, last year by Maxim Magazine.

Right. So. Gotcha. Yes. And now she's a brand new ambassador of that specifically. So she's taking what Cardi and Drake are doing and combining it. Combining it. Yeah.

I like it. In the frontier. So she'll collaborate with merchandise, events, fan experiences, other partnerships, branding, like all of that stuff. But there'll be, the women will be there, though, right? I hope so. We're still going to get the photo shoots. Yeah, of course.

It'll be the cover of maximum, right? Maxim, gambling. There'll be women in bikini somewhere, yes. Yeah, I feel like that goes hand-in-hand gambling. Well, Nikki's going to pick the right. She's going to pick the right look, that's for sure. She ain't going to have that shit looking bogus. Oh, look at this, man.

We spoke up lists. He's back. We spoke up lists. I think BDodd just be bored. I'm so mad that we just did the whole list gossipy. BDai, you bored, ain't you? Best rapper alive shit. And then I opened my phone and see

top 10 best rappers of 2022 so far from Brian B.Dott Miller. Based on skill performance. Brian B. Miller. That's what he tagged it as, I'm just reading what he did a signature idea. Okay.

Based on skill, performance, and relevance first six months of 2020. skill performance irrelevance huh I wouldn't want to get into this if we didn't just do all the fucking list shit best rapper alive shit it's just the theme today I guess let's let's be fucking gossipy and hip hoppy everyone's bored

all right let me read through this and then we can go then we can go through it if that makes sense I don't want to go through it I'll just read one through ten I just want to laugh at the names number one Kendrick Lamar number two push a T number three J Cole number four Kodak black five boldy James six Vince Staples seven low dirk, eight low baby, nine

Jack Harlow, 10, 21 Savage. Is that in... Is that an order? That's in order? I think it's an order. He would have said otherwise. First thing of Rip, future having the number one album,

plus I think the most he's ever sold ever, and Future's always been relevant and probably in the top ten when it comes to relevance for rappers. And he has a huge record with Thames and Drake, like what? what did Future not do to get on this list? You know what he didn't do.

Tweet BDOT back? He didn't agree to go on complex with him. He didn't go in complex with BDIC. Yeah, that's what you're putting on BDai? He's a pay-O-a-type? You know Future was busy. Damn. Schedule was jammed.

I didn't think B-Dade was the pay-a-type. No, I don't know. But leaving Future offer that is a little crazy, if you ask you mean. Outside of being mad that you did a first six-months list, I'm not terribly mad at it. I would, Derek might need to be up high on that list, though, because Dirk had the number one album about,

I want to say four weeks or something, shit like that. I wouldn't have been mad if Lotto snuck in at number 10. As far as if you're saying skills, performance, and relevance in the first six months, I don't know, Cole put out his album last year and has only done one verse. If that's the case,

if we're going off the standards that Cole did one verse, that was a great verse in the first six months of 2022 wouldn't Drake be on this because he did the exact same thing. So I just don't know why. And Cole was at number three for just doing a Bia verse?

And that's a great fucking record and love via and love that song. But number three? You might have to put a... And no future? Yeah, no future is wild. I don't... Is it?

I don't know if he has, he doesn't think future is a rapper. Maybe. I don't know. Could we collectively say that the top two are okay? Kendrick and who? Pusher. Yeah, first six months.

Kendrick and push? I'm not mad at that. I'd reverse it. I like... Dirk needs to be high on that list, though. I like that Vince is at least... Well, six. Not in the first half, but...

I'm not mad at Vince there. I'm not mad at Vince being on there. This guys shouldn't be coming from my face. But I think Jack could be a little higher. Oh. Yeah, no, Rory. Performance and relevance. The first six months?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, granted, the machine may have helped a bit, but. We're going to let Jack rest at number nine. No future, Jack should be comfortable with number nine. Okay. We're trying to show my advice because I shit it on him when you asked me the rest thing. No, that's all good. I get it.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not mad at that list. No future is bogus, though. You got to have future on that list. That's a must. But anyway, you know, let the, let the, let the comments begin, let the list make its rounds. Let's be gone.

Let the barbershops start yelling. Falling for it. We spoke it up. Literally falling for it. These comments are fucking hysterical. B.D.I. Be getting people pissed. That's all he. He loves that shit, though.

He knows that's going to ruffle some feathers. He knows that. B.D. knows what he's doing with this list. He knows that. Let's talk about it. Come on the show. You know what that turned into. Oh, for sure.

Let's talk about it. Come on the show. If you think I was wrong, come debate it. But why I'm just mad at relevance in the first six months? Like, Kendrick, all right, of course Kendrick should be number one. I'm not saying he shouldn't be. But let's say it was another artist that did really well in that month. He just put an album out. Of course it's the most relevant.

Yeah. I know it's Kendrick, so it's going to be relevant regardless. But let's say Kendrick didn't do anything. Do we just go with the album that everyone's talking about at the moment? Because that would be under relevance if you're just doing this time. not the whole year. And somebody else missing from that list. I just can't think about who it is at this moment.

But there's somebody that's like, it's blast for me not to have them on that list right now. I'm looking through the comments to see if there's, because I feel the same way that there is like a big ass art. Yes, there's somebody that's not on that list that I just can't think about right now. We'll come back to it next week. ESTG?

I wouldn't be mad at ESTG being on that. I wouldn't be mad at that. I was going to say, or them together for the first six months. I mean, I know a dog's an unfortunate situation, but still has been very much active and relevant in the first six months of 2022. I don't know. Even maybe Meg.

She's about to put out that Plan B video. That record is hard. We just talking about the first six months. But Meg hasn't been relevant music-wise in the first six months. I would say Milo before Meg. Her name is Lotto. Not ballado. Sorry, I will say lotto.

Because that's offensive. Okay. My dad's. Yeah, Meg hasn't been relevant music-wise. Not to say she hasn't been or can be, just the first six months. Yeah, she's been chilling. She hasn't really been. She's been relevant for unfortunate things.

Cole has been chilling. Well, that's why I said I don't agree with Cole being on that list. And if you're going off Cole, Drake should be right there too. He put out one verse that was huge. I think you should leave Drake off that list. Drake should never be on that list. Well, he's on it every year. And he will be on it.

Drake is the most relevant artist. You think by the end of the year he'll be on it? You don't even need to put his name on that list. Remember when MTV did this for a while? Yeah. That was terrible. I remember when BDOT did this? Six months ago?

BDot love a list, man. He absolutely does. He absolutely does. Shout out to BDOT. That's my guy. For sure. Well, Kevin Lowe spoke in court on Young Thugs behalf. He testified in court.

For a bail hearing, I suppose. I believe that's what this is. I believe it's another bail hearing. Do we have to load toggle, toggle, wiggle, woggle, woggle. That's probably the name of Meg's third single. Yeah, toggle, toggle, woggle, wago, wago. Let's hear the clip. I'm only that if this trial, and I'm not saying the court will allow it,

but if it doesn't take place for a year, there'd be over a million dollars in expenses just for 24-hour security of police officers to ensure off-duty police officers second jobs to ensure Mr. Williams does not flee, does not get types of weapons, the not intimidate a witness, it's not a danger to community and property in the community. Can he afford, from your personal knowledge and how much money he earns, can he afford that type of undertaking? Uh, Jeremy can't afford it and I can afford it, so we pay for it. And you are willing to back him as well.

I was going to back him personally and professional. Okay. That's Kevin Lyle's test. on Young Thug's behalf in court. He says he's willing to back Young Thug professionally and personally, you know, pay for him to have protection, pay for him to, you know, as far as like keeping up with him, making sure he's at court dates of need, if he needs to be staying out of trouble. Yeah.

Those type of things. So shout out to Kevin Liles for us stepping up and doing that on Young Thugs behalf because I'm pretty sure he needs those type of people. Absolutely. in the courtroom to help with his case and his bail hearing. Unfortunate situation, we don't need to go into it. We know what it is. Well, do we think it'll work from the bail side?

Because, I mean, there is murder in the Rico, which typically is hard to get bail in a lot of circumstances. I think it helps. I think it helps. I definitely think it helps. And I commend care for doing that. Yeah, all you want to do in these situations is do things that are going to help your case, going to help you in your case.

So I think that this definitely helps, young thug. So shout out to Kevin Liles for stepping up and doing that and doing that form. Which we've rarely, rarely, rarely, rarely seen. Oh, yeah. Well, actually, let me never say. We never see. They distance themselves from us immediately when things like this happen. It's like, no, we don't want to touch that.

We don't want to be responsible. We don't want to be held accountable for his whereabouts and him making court dates. and him, you know, staying out of trouble and all these other things. Like, a lot of people are not going to step up in court and put their name and their reputation and their career on the line for you. So epic was like, I don't think I know of Bobby. You said he was here? Yeah, I don't know Robert.

Yeah, they got clear away from that. So you know how it goes, man. It's just good to see Kevin Lyle step in court and testify on behalf of Young Doug. And I mean, I hope it does work. Either way, they're going to hit them over the head with some insane police security fees. Those are going to be. You know what they're ready to do with that. But I mean, I do hope if he does give bail that it's not strictly house arrest.

Of course, that's better than staying in jail. But hopefully, if they can move at least just for business stuff. Yep. Continue to fund, make money to fund his case. But that's where I feel like the government looks at it differently. because now that's giving him because they're saying right here like can he afford a million dollars

over the next year just off security fees he can if he's able to be outside working but I'm saying that allows him to continue to fund and all the feds want to do is drain every fucking asset person dollar family member you have

to make sure you lose the case that's exactly what they're going to do so I definitely see the feds being like wait why would we want him out making more money to possibly help beat us and I don't know if this is if this is a Fed case yet I'm not sure if this is a fact

I thought it was federal to begin with I think it's yeah I don't think so I'm not sure I think it might be a stake I mean I know a majority of the crimes were in Atlanta but I thought because of a I thought it was the easy loophole that because Doug and they kind of blamed the rappers that made it federal because they were traveling so much

with the YSL brand that now your gang has had been in all 50 states If it isn't federal I'm pretty sure it's headed there if it isn't federal already I'm not I'm not too sure about that. As far as music goes, released tonight, recording on a Thursday. You have this written down to matters.

I did not know Post Malone was putting out an album tonight. Yeah. Does he have a single? Not that he needs one per se, but typically he has one before he pulls the trigger on an album. Yeah. That's weird that I don't know that as Post being a fucking superstar. Yeah, I didn't know.

He was somewhere, though. He had popped up. Post Malone popped up somewhere. I mean, he's kind of... It's called 12-kart toothache. He's at the name of his album? Yeah. Yeah, 12-kart toothache.

That's a pretty cool title. That's when you know you get money. When you start just naming shit, like random shit like that, that's when you get money. Well, shit. That's a big surprise to me. He's at the status where he doesn't, I guess, need crazy marketing, but I still think... I think you're getting into a surprise weekend territory. with that where you are a superstar, but you still need a proper rollout.

Well, he did release a single. And it was called Cooped Up and it featured Roddy Rich. That was a minute ago, though, no? Yeah. Yeah. And then one right now. Wasn't that shit like two years ago? Oh, I don't know.

No. No. No. Two years? No. I feel like that Post Malone and Roddy record was a long time ago. The video just came out May 18th. Oh, maybe I'm thinking of a different song.

Yeah. And then one right now with the weekend is also out as well. Both are going to be in the album. Okay, so he got records out there. He was on, he was on SNL on the 14th last month. More shit I didn't watch. Yep. All right, well, maybe I'm out of the Post Malone.

He's not my algorithms. I'll definitely listen. I have mixed feelings on Post, but I do think, I do think he makes great music, and I do think he has the resources to make, like, incredibly expensive music, too. So I'm here to listen. Listen, Tentacione, Triple X.

Yeah, he got an album coming too, right? Yeah, it comes out tomorrow. Do you have the title? Look at me. Look at me, okay. Listen, it was one of the outside of how unfortunate that entire thing was, personally, I wasn't aware of his talent until after he passed. Oh, yeah.

And by talent, I don't mean like, yo, I started fucking, like, oh, I didn't know he made cool music. like he's he was special like he was different different type shit not when certain people do pass that you're just like oh wow they do have a few songs i never knew he was different so i'm excited for this album i hope people close to him that fully understood his vision and how he liked to put things out were the ones that curated this if you will because i i'm excited yeah it was still a tragic tragic uh thing that we lost him so young uh before he really got got to become his full self.

But it is good knowing that he has music still recorded, that they're still actively putting out, just so we can still continue to get the art and support him. I'm pretty sure, you know, his family is benefiting off of this. So it's just good that, you know, to see even in his passing that he still has art left to put out into the world. And I think he was one of those that's like Wayne or like Pac. where like they did seven records a day.

You're a studio rap for sure. You stayed in the studio for sure. So they definitely have some options to pick from. And Demer C. you have MC Wren written down as well. Yeah, I did. I thought that you guys might be interested in that. That's so much our fan.

That is interesting. I had, I didn't even know that was happening. I listen. I fuck a rent. Absolutely. You got to listen to Wren. Wren, I think it's super underrated. You can't get a hip-hop head and not listen to an MC.

Ren is probably one of the most underrated in that That legendary status, especially when it comes to rapping. He doesn't get talked about half as much as he should be. Yeah, I mean, he was next to cube. I get it, but he could rap. Absolutely. Well, yeah. What was the last thing on there?

Oh, that I want to talk about music related. I'm sorry. Justin Timberlake sells his music catalog, valued at $100 million. You said $10 million? It's a million. I'm sorry. It's a missing a O.

Yeah. And I didn't even miss that O. That's an O you don't miss. When I was reading it off these notes, it sounded weird of my head when I said it. 10 million. One song was, if that. Yeah, no.

Definitely. $100 million. He sold this whole catalog. That's not what he sold it for. That's what it's valued at. Oh, it's valued. Yeah, we don't. That's what experts were saying, oh, it's probably around $100 million.

We don't know exactly what he sold. He's probably going to get a little more than that, though. I mean, we've had these talks because this continues to happen. I now have changed my standpoint on it. Yeah. Sell it. Absolutely. You should because you don't know what the stream of shit.

You don't know how much your catalog is going to be worth in. Let me get that liquid. Three years. Yeah. just take this money now. And they're also taking it and putting it into other business ventures as well. Yeah, licensing and using it for, I'm sure, movies, commercials, things like that. Yeah, I'm good for Justin.

I am curious, though, what the plan is for these companies that are paying so much for it. Yeah, I was wondering. Because they have to know something that we don't know. And they must be very confident in the future. And I'm not even talking about their lifetime. Because something just tells me that they're not the youngest people that can afford to even get alone to buy all this music. They are setting something up that they know where music is going to go and why it would be worth that. It was a London-based company.

Yeah, most people are selling it too. I was more confused in the beginning at the artist doing it. Now I'm confused at the people that are buying it. That same company also bought the catalog from Neil Young, Shakira, Blondie and Lindsay Bunkingham. So I don't know. Lindsey who? Buckingham.

Oh. I mean, I thought you said muckingham. Mungham. Mung and well. Yeah, that's what is it like. All right. So remember how we always used to have the conversations and we're not the only ones. I feel like plenty of platforms have had this conversation of like what would just happen if

if artists decided you can't put my music on or like, you know, boycotted. We saw with a few artists saying Spotify, you can't play my shit, et cetera. If they're buying the publishing to a lot of these and the rights, I'm not sure what's in the contract as far as what they own if they just outright bought Justin Timberlake's music because that's not just Justin Timberlake. That's the label, publishing company, et cetera. It's not just Justin getting paid off.

They had something in there saying that even in a couple of in sync songs, I think. Yeah, songs he's written as well. So yeah, it's publishing, more or less. Could they be gearing up at some point to continue streaming, but now we own the biggest public. of the biggest artist period where we will have the ability we make the decision

that it can no longer be on any DSPs and we are the new DSP. Yeah, I was thinking that too. That's the only way I can see if you don't, if streaming is probably going to remain for quite some time. I know it always moves on to the new thing. But streaming does seem like

it's going to be it for a while. The one that's going to last the longest as far as what's going on with music, at least for our lifetime. Because it coincides directly with the technology that we have. Exactly. Are they trying to position themselves to become a fourth major in the streaming shit?

That's interesting. And you can corner it as far as I'm not allowing it on that. Kind of like what title was trying to do, but in a way bigger way. I can see that. That's definitely an interesting angle. And someone that really knows this shit could call me stupid off one sentence. I'm just freestyling. of thoughts when I see that people are buying.

I'm definitely, that's definitely an interesting angle for sure. I can see that happening. Because of course there's value to owning all those publishers, even if you're not starting a streaming company, but if you're paying that much money with the value of a stream being so weird in what it's at in the future of music, is that the only way to make it that lucrative? Like, I can take every one of these major artists off your shit.

here's my streaming company. No, I'm definitely, that's definitely an interesting angle, and I can see that somehow being to play a few years down a lot for sure. Speaking of zeros, LeBron James is officially a billionaire. LeBron James is officially the first active NBA play in history to become a billionaire. He joins Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, who both hit that milestone after retirement. So shout out to LeBron King James on a billion.

That's, you know. That's something that I'm pretty sure, you know, he had his eyes set on some years ago. And now that he's finally in the billionaire boys club, you know, that's a big feat for King James. So shout out to King James. And I'll congrats to the entire team. He wants to be an A&R. Maybe he should just buy these catalogs. He might.

He might stop. The undisclosed source. LeBron James bought Justin to release. Yeah, he might be behind some of that shit. But that's dope, man. Shout out to LeBron. Billionaire Boys Club. Oh, yeah, man.

I don't know. That's it on my list as far as shit that. Game one? You don't tell the fans what to expect. But game one? Yeah. Listen, man. I love the Celtics.

I love Jason Tatum. I think Jalen Brown is one of the most underrated players in the league. I said that before. But the show stops here, though. Well, obviously. I mean, no matter what. No, I mean, like, it's the finals. For them, it's no champagne after the Eastern Conference Championship.

This is it. They just ran into who I believe is a top five player of all time and Steph Curry. When it's all set and done, I believe he'll be a top five player. The only thing that Steph is missing is a finals MVP, which I'm sure he will get this time around unless Clay Thompson scores 50 the entire series. and even then I don't think they'll slight stuff and not give them the finals MVP but yeah I just think that the Warriors are you know the last time

Clay Thompson Steph Curry and Draymond Green were all healthy on the court together they won so this is their first time all three of them being back together so I think they'll close it out I give the Celtics a game I think they'll win one

I think it's gonna be a very quick series I don't think this finals is gonna drag I think that you know Boston is this still very, uh, they're young. This is,

you know, I don't, a lot of them have never even been in the finals, I believe, that are on that roster. I don't think any of them have,

have been in the final. So the stage might be a little bigger than they thought, this might, this is their, this is the, they're there,

they're like spoon feeding. Like, they get to taste what the finals is. But I, you know, the Warriors are, a dynasty, the organization,

uh, again, I think, I believe, Steph Curry is a top five player all time. Clay Thompson, Draymond, you know, then you got your role players, Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins, who's an underrated player. He averaged 20 on his career.

I didn't even know that until last year. He averaged 20 a game on his career. So, yeah, I think the Warriors just have too much, man. So I like Jason Tatum a lot, though. He's a Kobe baby. Jalen Brown is, you know, really, really underrated, one of the best players of this position in the league. but it's just too much going on

over there in Golden State, man. I will say, though, with the Celtics team, I've never, I've, I don't want to say hate, but I've really disliked the Celtics my entire life. I like, I like the Celtics team. And that's weird because you look like you'll be a Celtic. Oh, for sure.

I look like the Celtic. I look like a Celtic. Absolutely. I think I had an Antoine Walker jersey, but that was just, that was just because jerseys and it said Celtic, like, yeah, it wasn't for Boston. I'm positive you had a Celtics jersey.

I think I had an Antoine Walker one. But they've made me like the Celtics. Like, we always joke about favorite James game. I love Jason Tatum's game. I'm going to be rooting for them, and this would be the first time I'm really rooting for a Celtic team. I mean, listen, I'm a basketball head. I wanted to go seven games. It just won't. Yeah, just so we get as many games and it could be.

You and the advertisers. Yeah, like, I just, I wanted to be seven, but I just, the Warriors are not going to fuck around, man. And I believe Steph is going to, this is going to be one of his greatest finals runs because he, he knows that that finals MVP award, that is the only thing. from his trophy case that he feels like you know step is as a team player though he's a team guy so i i know he doesn't care about individual awards like that but that finals MVP award is missing from his trophy case without a doubt and i'm sure that he's going to go out there and make sure that they don't leave it up for anybody else to take home um but yeah man i got the warriors in five are you uh since boston is in close proximity and you know you are a NBA darling um do you think

Don't ever call me a darling. I don't care. Don't try to put NBA in front of darling. You're a heart throbbing the podcast. You're a darling. I just like to watch basketball. That's it. Do you think you'll go to any of the Boston games?

Well, the two that we may get. Um, nah, this is probably going to be sold out. And then, you know, but you just walk through the tunnel. Yeah, you walk through the tunnel. That's one that matter to you.

You don't even get an assigned seat. I don't, I don't walk through the time. You have to have an assigned seat inside the arena. I would love to. I would love to go to a finals game. I don't think I've ever been to a finals game. No, I've never been to a finals game. So I would love to, but no.

I'm not going up to Boston just to go to the finals game. I get that. Well, I don't know. Maybe you have something up in the bean. That's some bean box. No, I definitely wanted to go seven, though, just because I like to see as many games as you can. But I got a feeling five games.

It's over. Steph is not fucking around. But I'm watching. And, you know, hopefully they get this shit over with and Steph get step finals even because I'm tired of people discrediting Steph. He doesn't have a finals MVP. Andre Aga Godala was better than him in the finals.

No, Andre Aguadala was not. LeBron still averaged 35. If you try to discredit stuff, he did not slow or say anything at this point. But that's what people do. People, people, they're going to discredit Steph. If Steph was the type of player, NBA player that was in the club every weekend

with a bust down AP on and spending $30,000 on strippers a month. Yeah. they would be like, oh, he's the goat. That's actually a very low amount that you're putting on. NBA player for a stripper a month. But because he's on a golf course on his off days and with his kids coloring in the backyard.

Didn't even get a shape up for his wedding. Yeah, like, you know, people just, they want to discredit Steph Curry. But he's, he's without a doubt. He's changed the game of basketball. He's dominated in errors where they call other people the greatest. So I just don't, you know, when you talk, when you just look at those things, it's like, how can he not, he's the greatest shooter ever. I mean, you know, he, what else do you want them to do?

Like, you know what I mean? Finals MVP? Okay, well, go get one so that people can shut the fuck up. But anyway, the finals start tonight, we're recording Thursday. So the final start tonight, by the time you hit us tomorrow, we will know who won game one. I have the Warriors winning by 14. Okay. Out the gate.

Yeah, game one. Yeah, I can see game one being a little shaky. I have the Warriors winning by 14 game one. So we'll see. We'll see tomorrow. Well, yeah. everyone on Patreon please look out for where we're placing

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I don't know. Why would I want? Why not a Philly cheesecake? Because, man, you know why? My Aztec warrior is thrown like bull. Thank you. He's going to get his cheesecake with like the shredded Mexican. Oh, you know, he's going to get the open cheese.

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After the festival What? Absolutely, I love sleep, man You gotta go smoke out And I think the game is on one of those nights Saturday, right? Smoking, watch the game. I can't.

I might not even go Saturday to the festival. I'm going to keep it a hondo. You're going to see that lineup and want to go for a few. Oh, nah. What's the name is, isn't, isn't Ross in them Saturday? I believe so. And Ross, Benny, and, um. Yeah, I'm going to go on Saturday.

I don't know what he's talking about. I don't think I'm going to stay the whole time. We're going to get fucked up. Huh? We have to perform. I'm not going to get. See, this is how, this is how. Here I go to this boring.

I'm boring. You're not boring. We have to perform. tomorrow at what eight o'clock I mean on Sunday 8 o'clock yeah we okay fine I'll have a drink

yeah I'll have water and some bud there you go but yeah roots picnic this week and let's have some fun y'all be safe you know love your loved ones

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