New Rory & MAL - Episode 74 | "Rough Riders"

Episode Date: June 10, 2022

This episode is all over the place so bear with us. The guys start this episode off addressing Jack Harlow's recent comments regarding black women, and then dive into the nasty business of name dropping. They also address Joe Biden's Kimmel interview, and then get into J Prince's beef with Wack 100. They speak on Jay Z & Jack from Twitter opening a BitCoin program in Brooklyn, as well as upcoming festivals, R Kelly's sentencing, & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But you're not a... You don't even... Do you... You're going to be there when they arrive. When you sit on it? You're nice. No, Warren, now. Welcome to another episode.

New Rory Him All show I'm all that's Rory You don't know that Yeah who are you today Sharon Stone That was That was, have you Were you dreaming about her

Like that was I don't know where that came from Yeah I was a weird move She was such a hottie And then fucking 90s Why'd you say the 90s like that She was Sharon Stone was like

The go-to Like The go-to You ran through some lotion On Sharon No Your go-to white woman crush Go-to white woman crush

right now in the 90s oh Sharon Stone Sharon Stone Was Pamela Anderson Anything you guys were interested Yeah I like Pam Absolutely

Carmen Elector Yeah she was She was the one Yeah Carmen Lechette was definitely Jenny McCarthy In the 90s right I mean I listen

I was self-hating even in the 90s So like I like chili Today Oh who didn't like Chile Today Margot Robby Robbie Marble Robbie is my

That's my go-to-white woman Oh my God She's married She's married I mean not gonna have a Kevin Gates moment Like no disrespect I didn't know she was married I think she's

I mean I like the pop stars Like I liked Britney Spears I thought she was attractive For sure Christina Aguilar I thought was attractive Yeah I know who Florence Po is

No Who? Florence Poe Who's that City in Italy Yeah That works too Yeah I don't know who that is

Are you gonna tell us Who you just Are you just asking us If we know Like New York I think she was in Handsmates Tail's Black Widow and

Wait, she's the lead in her. Oh my God, no. In Black Widow, she was fine. Yeah, it was a small one. She was fine in Black Widow. I know who needs something on. Whoever the lead is, she's a talented actress. You're someone, Scarlett Johansson? Yeah, Scarlet Johansson isn't the lead in Handsmated. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about Black Widow.

No, no. What's Shorty's name in Handmaidstale? That has now become reality. No, I think she's attractive. I just think she's a good actress and then I've tried to watch Handmade Tale and she just makes the same facial reaction the entire. Elizabeth Moss.

Did you have on your face right now? Does she get a script for that show? Or they're just like just look like this all the time? This one? Her? She's in other shit and she's good. So I'm like, why are they not utilizing? But I think she's good at hand maize tail.

She just does have that very stupid face. She's a very stupid face. What is that? What she does in the show? But that's his face. She doesn't say a word. I hate work Oh, man

So speaking of self-hatred Politics and Handmaidsdale Somebody on Twitter Said Because you saw that Jack Harlow was like Bigging up Black woman

And that was like the headline And someone said He was biging up black women It was just like They'll always have a supporter in him Oh he's trying to push him on sales Somebody said they're marketing him like a Democratic candidate Like Joe Biden

That's all That's all he did. Joe Harlow. We ain't got Kamala. Jack White. Kna knew he was with the black woman vote did. Wayne got Kamala as his running mate. He knew the black woman vote was secured and said you're not black if you don't vote for him.

Listen. People were like, well, I got to be black. I got to go vote for him. I don't know. Joe defined your blackness? Yeah, like just. Well, shit. Should we quickly get into that?

Jack Harlow's bullshit? No, not Jack Harlow's bullshit. If Jack Harlow loves black women, that's amazing. And I'm sure he does. Man, keep the fuck. It's hard not to love black women. You don't think Jack Harlow likes black women? That's not what I said.

He also has a KFC male. Why do you have a media run to tell everybody that you like black women? I don't know if you've seen the media. Because black women, black women support hip-hop music more than any other gender. You're not saying that out of genuine love. Any other genre

of people, any other... How do you know it's not, Jane? Demographic of people. Why can't the marketing and the truth coincide? Because that is a lot of his demographic is black women. that like Jack, they put him on. Of course.

He can't love the people that put him on. Listen, the match is on here going Google Gagga over him and his fucking Vogue Maga's GQ. Oh, yeah. She was going to look at the curls. Look at the arms. Look at the shoulders. To make me uncomfortable.

I was uncomfortable. I was uncomfortable with the pictures. I like Jack Harlow. I do. I'm not. He likes you too. Apparently. That is true.

He's willing to serve you a two piece with a biscuit as well. Hey, you know. You see the Jack Harlow Mill at KFC? You don't see that? Well, he's from Kentucky. So I guess I... I guess it's okay. It's not.

The colonel's white. It's never okay. He's not the colonel. He's not he is. He's a fucking... He's a fucking colonel. He probably can't even make fried chicken. I'm willing to bet Jack Harlow can't cook fried chicken.

That's why he was saying that he loved black women. Exactly. Have a black woman come cooking some fried chicken, please. Kim Kardashian can... So how long do y'all think it'll be before he... He has his... Y'all don't remember that. Yeah, I saw that shit.

How long do you think it'll be before he has his staged celebrity relationship with a black woman? Do y'all give the year? Not that long. Who do you think is going to be? Yeah, I say November of this year. I see, if you think that Jack Harlem

won't have a black girlfriend by Thanksgiving this year? Well, it's going to be the high profile one. But if it was Lori Hari. I could, I'm telling you all right now. If Lori Harvey dates Jack Harlow, I am no longer recording a podcast. What?

Because that's our deciding. To break our contract? Y'all not going to let me get my shit off. Y'all, y'all not going to let me get my shit off. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's hypothetical. You can't get blamed for a hypothetical. Because once I push that button, we can't go back.

I'm letting you know right now. We're going to want to upload independently after that, right now. I'm going on. I'm letting y'all know right now. Just more. We're losing a deal. We're losing every fucking thing. There's no more ads.

We're losing everything. If Lori Harvey gets with Jack Harlow, we are losing everything. Well, Lori, for my bills and my livelihoods and don't do it. Don't do it. Please. I mean, just call. Come on, man. Just like, no, not Lori, not Lori.

If Lori, first of all I was, you know, I said, but why? Lori Harvey's the realest nigga in the game. I said that years ago. That is true. I do remember when you said that. I saw it. I said, this little young harlot right here, she's going to run through the industry like a

future future. She's going to run through the industry like a fucking tornado. She's going to leave a fucking trail of just broken hearts and men everywhere. Oof. Sad lyrics. You know, and she's just going, years later, she's going to get married and look back and and I'm like, yeah, it was my 20s. I was having fun.

But if it was Jack. no she can't give Jack Harlow and I'm not no hater but she's Jack Harlow Harry better not give Jack Harlow He's very popular No I don't I would hope not I'm sure Jack fucked one of my bitches

I like Jack Harlow I'm almost certain That he's fucked one of my bitches I like Jack Harlow a lot I really do I fuck with him Worst a Jack supporting podcast I fuck with Jack Harlow

I just think that I was kind of disappointed in his album even though he had a good album A better album than a lot of other rappers I ain't going to say no names. But he, well, you're not a black woman.

He, he just, wasn't for you. I just felt like it was too much, it was, it was too drakey. Hmm. Mm.

It was too drakey. I love the record with him and Justin Timalake. I love the record with him and Wayne, but I feel like that was a Drake record. It's a, yeah,

Drake's used that same sample before and fucking, what was Lauren Hill, uh, draft day. Yeah. You know what I mean? But I mean,

Drake has been around. He has a record with Drake. For so long, yeah, on a very Drake beat. Yeah, on a very Drake album. Yeah, but Drake has been around for so long

that it's no longer like his peers trying to sound like him. It's his kids. And I mean that respectfully. Yeah, we can start seeing the Drake babies come out. That's, well, we've seen a lot of them. But I feel like it's different than like when Drake was coming out and then we heard artists at the same time they were in music

as Drake trying to sound like him. And it was like, oh, come on. That's weird. Yeah. With the kids, kids are going to happen. Yeah. There's Hove kids. There's kids.

There's kids. And we like them. So I can't. do that to the Drake kids. No, no, no, I like the, I know that Drake has an influence on a lot of these artists that are up and coming, a lot of these artists that we're going to start hearing. Of course, Drake is, he's probably the biggest artist of his generation. So naturally, he's going to have an influence on the next wave, for sure.

Is he the Benjamin Button of hip-hop? Drake? All right, hear me out. I'm hearing. I'm listening. On comeback season, he looked about 45 years old. Now he looks 26. Well, that's what happens when you're working out, you're eating better.

The oldest he looks on all his album covers is his first one. Comeback season, he looked like a soccer dad in autumn. Was it because of the no facial hair, you think? Maybe. He just, he was very old in the face. And it's weird that facial hair makes him look younger. Because usually facial hair makes you look older. And he put the braids, braids make you look younger.

Yeah. Because Alan Iverson still looks 25. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think money and, you know, lotion. A different luxurious lifestyle makes you look youthful. Did you guys see that video that went viral of him and the girl that he saw out at the Detroit bar?

There was a young lady at a Detroit bar. Oh, yes. I saw some of that, yes. And they ordered her energy because. Well, Drake saw a girl at the airport, you know, one of the bars. And I guess he just saw maybe a group of women sitting at the bar and just started it was Drake time. Drake has a plane.

Why is he at? I don't think it was an airport mall The airport bar I believe it was the airport Really? Yeah I believe Why is he at Hudson News When you own a plane

No he wasn't at Hudson News This was a full bar He was that Wolfgang Puck Something like that probably In the airport And it was like dead middle of the day Like early You know like there was almost nobody in there

And the girl was like Drake come take shots with us And he was like She was like She drank tequila He said yeah She was like Casamigos He said

No 42 She was like oh excuse me And like they just have like a regular It was nice I brought that up to say it was nice seeing a celebrity not be fond over and just like, you know, he said, he had a regular drink.

Well, it's also, you know, when you, by now, Drake knows the group of women that he can approach and be just like that with. It's certain ones that have an energy where you're like, they're not going to go crazy if I go over there and start talking to them and just kick it with them, have a drink. Then you know the group that it's like, all right, if I go over there, they're going to go crazy. That's usually the younger, the younger girls. Do you think Drake would approach Tamara? Or like Detroit women versus Miami women.

yeah yeah absolutely i feel like demaris or women that moved to miami i'm not gonna put it on miami girls yeah what did you say i think you would freak out if you saw dring are you serious yes i don't think so i don't know me that well no no i don't think so no not at all baby definitely i did exactly what she did actually lest i wouldn't have said anything to me do you think she'd go full logan paul the way you did or i'd hope so hand in the chest and everything Trizzy I didn't say Logan Paul's name like that

Is that the boy? First of all Let me tell you how Mall trying to tell me that the boy stands for a baller at a year It does No it doesn't More facts

What do you think the boy stands for He's a 30-something young man You think he's saying he's a boy? He's the man Well he came up with the term I believe when he was still a boy So it just grew like Lil Wayne is not little anymore

but he's still Little Wayne. Do people still call him Little Wayne, though? Go on Wayne. Or just Wayne. But like on Apple Music. Well, yeah. I'm sorry, on Sirius satellite radio. It'll say Little Wayne.

On Stitcher. On Moore Sauce. On Howard Stern Show, it'll say Little Wayne. Yeah, please get it right, Roald, okay? The fuck I'm going to say it. The first time we did, we did like a half kind of Palooza in Toronto, like in 2012 or some shit and there was like somewhat of a line

and you know people were trying it was still invite only at that time and people were trying to get him and this guy and this girl came up and the guy got like kind of close closer to us and was like yo we not on the list of nothing but this is the boy's ex always like come again

because I don't even think I had heard the term the boy yet I don't think Drake was saying it like that it's like this this is the boy's ex. I'm like, I'm like, I'm cool. Did he say that because he didn't want her over there? No, that was his way to get into the party.

Oh, okay. Times have changed. Just, I don't know. Times have changed. Maybe I'm the only one that found that one of the weirdest things I'd ever heard for someone to try to get into a party. To use a girl's name?

She once had sex with Drake. We're good, right? straight to the front I'm sorry, what? Straight to the front But see, it's always Yes, men shouldn't try to get into parley

But women do that all the time Yeah, but a man said it And he was with the girl Who looked like he was probably Talking to him Wait, wait, wait He was with the girl? Yes, it was the two of them

Oh yeah, that's weird Very weird Yeah, that's weird Yeah, I don't like that The boy is a chokehold In that city This is the boy's ex That's so embarrassing

Six is fucking... People don't be getting embarrassed when they do stuff like that. Especially like, even name dropping, like, gives me like the chills, the EBGBs. Like, why do people do that? Well, because people, the one thing that people want these days more than anything is access. And people feel like if you're attached to someone that has access, that that's your, like, card to your access card. It's, you know, I'm with this person. I know this person.

I had sex with this person. Whatever. So it's just, it's just, it's weird, it's awkward, it's not, because it's, you know, It's just not a natural. You know when you're doing something that's just like... A natural. Yeah, you can feel it. It's kind of like the awkward,

you feel the awkward shit. So it's like, it's just not using somebody's name to gain access into something to me. It's just something that just always been weird. No one talks about the plight of the Z-list celebrity that doesn't like to go to the club, but sometimes has to go to the club.

Mm-hmm. Talk about myself, of course. Yeah, I know. Because I know not, of course, everyone knows who I am. But there's some people that do. I'm not going to a club to wait in line. So I'm going to go to the front. And I'm going to hope for the first.

The only time I hope when someone knows me is when I can get access to something. Like TSA, hey. Yeah. Every time I walk up, I'm always like, all right, I hope to God this fucking bounce through the nose. I try to give the familiar face, maybe talk a little bit, maybe you recognize my voice. Because here's the thing. Here's the thing. You'll know who I am.

If he said, till a bunch, hey, close your eyes. Hey, put your AirPods in, sir. Close your eyes, listen to me. Do you know who I am now? No. And that's also why I make sure I ask

anyone that invites me to the club. You know, we're good to just walk right in, right? Oh, yeah. Because if I walk to the front and they don't know who I am, I'm fine with that. I don't think I'm entitled.

I don't think you should know me. I'm just not going to the back of line. I'm going to go home. Yeah, somebody that's at the party, running the party, running the door. I know somebody here. Yeah. Like that, but that's been years.

Like, I was paying bouncer skip the line years ago. Oh, for sure. I was like 21 years old. Yeah. I was doing that. Like, shake the bounces hand, put a 50 or 100 in. Fam, I'm not doing this line.

Yeah. I'm just trying to get in. My Pee was already in there. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not waiting on this line though. That's something that, you know, I don't. Because the line thing, when you know, like, you know, they have people on those lines to make the club look like it's more popping.

Yeah. And it's like, I'm not doing it. I know that game. I'm not a part of that game. People that pay cover charge don't know they're just their advertisement. Absolutely. But that, that is a fear of. mine if I ever do become like an M-less celebrity that I won't get into the club and then I end up

on too cool to blog from a cell phone camera like look at bum-ass Rory can't get into highlight room standing out here all by himself like a fucking loser but you know why that doesn't matter to me because where you need to go where you need to get in that you're not already knowing that you're going to get in as soon as you get there I don't go anywhere anymore unless you're yeah but there was a lot there was a large time when I was going out more actively where like plans would change be like, yo, we're going here. And I'd be with people like,

oh, fuck, who can I text? I don't know anyone there. Hope to God, this fucking bouncer. Damn, you don't know any promoters? No, God. I don't know any promoters in New York. I don't know any orders anymore either. Maybe two.

But other than that, I don't know. I don't even know what clubs. Yeah, as you guys are with me, you guys can get into the stumbling. That is true. Thank you. You know, and we're so. Hopefully we can get into the stumbling.

All. the promoters I know got old and I had like kids and shit. Oh, okay. Yeah, that shit is done. Yeah, my favorite bottle girls are all moms now. Well, they were moms and they were bottle girls. Yeah. They just decided to be in their lives more than that.

Tips wasn't hitting. Oh, man. I have a question for you guys. Specifically, more. Yes. How would you feel if a grown man bought you a motorcycle? What? he wants you to ride him

why would he why would a grown man buy me a motorcycle so we can ride together unless it's fucking unless it's a Harley Davidson himself it's a Ducati

2020 is it Ducati himself buying it for me no it's just a rent a random guy with money it's a friend that has money yes

oh he likes you I think Rory wants to buy your Ducati who bought you a Ducati I'm not gonna say I'll tell you guys off Mike I just want to know how I should feel about it

Oh someone got you a bike yeah I don't know about a ducai. How close is the... You don't even ride motorcycles. I mean, I know how. But you don't ride. You're not a rider. Like, you don't fucking...

Not a rough rider? No, you're not. I'm just saying, why would somebody buy you a motorcycle? It's not like you're... To ride. Stop saying that. Yeah, but I just... But you're not a...

You don't even... You're going to be there when they arrive. When you sit on it? You're nice. I just had to make this immature when I was asking a serious question. Okay, now I know. who bought it. It's like Bofar's.

Oh. Hey, wait. But yeah, I get it. Yeah. Well, I'm going to share it with you because you my man's. I'm cool. I'll walk.

You don't want to send the back? I don't fuck on motorcycles. Can the staff ride it? Yo, what you're asking this man on camera? What is wrong with you? Can the staff ride it? What's wrong? You're right?

It's a HR problem. Adding on a motorcycle would be kind of funny, I feel like. What are you trying to say? No, I don't fuck a motorcycle. Just be funny. I don't fuck motorcycles. I feel you. Yeah, motorcycles just, no.

I think that's a very nice gift. I think that that is nice of him, Rory, and please don't kill yourself in another time. So here's the thing. My Pops is a big motorcycle person. Driven his, you call it driven, rode his pause. Dirt bikes have done all that shit.

I looked up that Dukadi that was purchased. I am terrified of that fucking thing. Yeah, I don't. I don't fuck a motorcycle. That shit looks like a fucking spaceship. Like if you just hit the thrift, once you're going 80 miles an hour. Yeah.

No, I don't fuck motorcycles. Like, that shit doesn't turn. You got to, like, lean, lean. Never did. Never fucked with bikes. Maybe a dirt bike, maybe. But I'm like a motorcycle. I like, I like the.

Four-wheelers are safer. I like the mopeds, like the vespas. I'll do that. I thought about getting one of those just to move around the city a little bit. Like, lock the, lock, if I saw you in a vest. Why not? Holy shit. That would be hysterical.

I think I'm a good one. Honestly, but like only to move like, you know, right around, like, when I'm up town, like go to like... It's probably 15th, 100, I understand. But no, just like instead of like always being in the car, it's like just block to block, go see the cousins, the homies. Like, yo, pull up on the on the... On your razor scooter? Yeah. Why not?

Were you too old for razor scooters or too cool? I never liked the razors. I never liked the razors. We used to do the ones. We used to do the scooters with the little gas tank on. Remember those? Oh, of course. I had one.

Yeah, we did those. Cut lawns to get one. Yeah. That was my shit. Took the governor out. I never liked the, once I got, like, older, maybe, like, the scooters, we did those when I was, like, before high school. But after high school, that's when you start fucking with more, like,

like, women. Dirt bikes. Yeah, gas, like, shit that needed fuel. Like, that's when you upgraded to that type of shit. Shit that needed fuel. Yeah, like. Listen, with these gas prices, I'm going back to the razor. You might have to in a minute.

Or a mongoo. You guys weren't cool if you didn't have amongos. I had a mongo's bike. With the pegs on the back. Of course. Front and bag on the back. Yeah. See, but you had to survive the 90s uptown with that type of shit

because that's when niggas was getting robbed left and right for their bikes. You had a mongoose in the 90s in the Bronx. You definitely fell for, hey, can I ride that for a second? Pause. Never. Never. That was the go-to-you. You're never seeing that bike again, young man.

That bike is fucking out of here. That bike is in Brooklyn. You're going to have to try to borrow it back. Can I ride your bike? Can I ride my former bike, please? Yo, I saw that happen to people, and I'm just like, damn. He don't even know. He's going to sit here.

wait for homie to come back. It's over. That fucking bike is gone. Well, it takes one time just like what size shoe are you. It only takes you one time to learn not to answer that question. Did somebody ask you that before? Yeah. I knew they and they were trying to steal my fucking sneakers. That's crazy. I never experienced them. They snatched them off your feet?

No. I ran. With my sneakers on. You know what? I don't know. Let me see. Let me see how they work, though. I showed them the product. Let me try them out for you. I'll come back. let you know. All right. So I shouldn't feel the way that

another grown man bought me a motorcycle. You should just say, especially, no, just be careful, man. Because I don't feel like, you're going to be right there.

I don't feel like doing a, you got to take me to the hospital. I don't feel like doing a podcast by myself. Yeah, I feel you. And Dukadi's are not, you can't play with those. You should,

you should know exactly what you're doing before you get on a, on a motorcycle. I'm going to see if they could put training wheels on it first. Yeah. Because, yeah,

see if they could put something on the engine where it keeps it below, like 35. That show is like a crazy sports like. And where we're going to, where we're staying isn't like a straightaway.

It's like hills and bending. Yeah. No, not the Tucati. I can do that with a dirt bike with my eyes closed. Yeah. The dirt bike, yes.

Coddy, that's a different animal. That's a different machine. But we did talk about going to like the actual racetrack that they have set up for them in California, which I would do because that's way fucking safer, super wide turns.

A lot of sports. I'd feel comfortable on the Dukadi with that. But where we're going to be where they're getting delivered, now ship that shit back to Cali, bro. You're getting delivered? Also, the whole team is going to have them. Yeah, well, Maul's going to have to ride on the back of mine. Like Eve.

Maul will be walking or running. I'm not getting on a fucking motorcycle. I'm glad DeMaris found that as funny as I did. And Maul just ignored it. What did she say? I called you Eve. Anyway. Joe Biden.

Jimmy Kimmel. No, fuck Joe Biden. I was looking at something online, and I'm seeing that Young Miami. Carisha, please. Better known as Carisha. Has a show, I believe it's on to be on Revolt.

Called Carisha, please. It's called Carisha, please. Do you want to play a clip from it? Is that what you're doing? Okay, we can play the clip. Okay, we can play the clip. and then all. So I just want to acknowledge, remember when we were talking about best group?

And I said the city girls should be second runner up. And Maul laughed at me and Rory. And I said because their social media exploits are fucking legendary in their generation. Well, don't say I laughed because you have you said second up. So give the list. And I guarantee you I could pick two groups that were above the city. And I like to see. Of course.

But when referring to that, like I said that they needed their own show. I did say that. Oh, no. That I agree with 1,000 percent. They should definitely have. have their on TV show. But we'll get into the clip. So when you woke up and we were shrinking what it was about. I mean,

it would, it just... So what we is? What you like about me? Like, why you f***ing the city, girl? I understand this is like a trailer to get me to watch, which it's going to get me to watch. I hope Puff actually answer those questions. Are you a cheetah? You can't think.

God it just said. Wow. What? Like, I hope this isn't just good editing. I hope that... I'm not laughing. I hope that Puff didn't media train those questions. Yeah. Imagine your girl asking you, what are we on?

I was about to say, just on the trailer. On national TV, but the TV station you own. Yes, that's what I was good to say. It's an interesting dynamic. These two are obviously dating correct. Is it obvious? I mean, you can see the twinkling and puff's eye during the line of question. I don't know.

I think they have butterflies for each other. Yeah, I think it's safe to say. that they've spent some personal time together. That wasn't their first time. I think when she said, I think that question when she asks him what we is, he's gonna say, humans.

What you mean? We're friends. I feel like they're like doing all of this for the show. Oh, absolutely. That's what that's what it's for. That's what it's for. You want to mark it.

You want to cut up and edit, you know, a good piece of video to get people to be like, oh, shit, I got to see. No, but I'm talking about even before that. I think the exploits of the stuff that they're doing, I think people started speculating that they were dating. I think they took that and ran with it.

I mean, Puff lives in Miami. And she's young. She's young Miami. I don't even ask me how. It would make sense. Like, he's old Miami and she's young Miami. Listen, either way it goes, I'm going to watch that. I just need to see how Puff held it down

during that line of questioning. This is how I react to stories I do not give a fuck about. Yeah, I just try to make terrible jokes. I thought that that was because I thought that it was an old thing that they're dating. We're not all on the inside like you. Oh, no, I didn't get that from, I just got it from. Definitely an insider.

The inside source. Are you the source that be talking to the show of your own? Magazine. No, I don't speak to the show. You've definitely been a source, a source close to the person. Yeah, never. Nobody has ever asked me anything. A friend of Chloe said that she's distraught.

Nobody is at all. Literally nobody has ever asked me anything about Chloe. Like, nobody has ever. But I thought that was interesting. I do want to see how Puff answers that. I do like, I want to see with the show. is. I don't know if this is a one-off. No, it's a podcast. She had a multi-million dollar podcast deal.

Oh, Twins. So it's going to be a podcast and it's going to be on Revolt. So Revolt has the TV, has the visual rights to it. Okay. Interesting. Twins. We're not twins. Yeah, we're not. One of you is young Miami. Young Miami. I'm J.T. and he's, never mind.

All right. Anyways. So we don't want to talk about Joe Biden and Jimmy Kimmel. What happened with Joe Biden and Jimmy Kimmel? Kimmel. Yeah, I don't even let you know what. Last night or two nights ago, Joe Biden did what I think was his first interview ever as president and decided to go to Jimmy Kimmel. Safe. What the fuck is going on in our country right now? Y'all voted for him. This is your president. Enjoy it. What did he do on Jimmy? I mean, of course, everyone specifically on your network of Fox killed.

killed him and Jimmy of like and this is the first time I somewhat agreed with Fox News of like it's a lot going on right now dog I don't know if I want to hear from Jimmy Kimmel when it comes to answers from a president that barely fucking speaks and hasn't done an interview yet Jimmy tried to he tried to ask some serious questions

and he did ask some serious questions but it was very much question and answer prepped before and like did that. the fake pushback. It just, I don't know, man. I just don't need to hear from Jimmy Kimmel. Like, and you're going to love this because he's on Fox.

Like, go sit down with Chris Wallace. Go sit down with an objective fucking journalist. Why would he do that? Because I have some questions that need some answers. Yeah, he don't want to answer them. So that's why would he do that? He's not answering him. It's just, again.

And he's not the first president to do that. No. But I feel like even like when presidents have gone on talk shows and done the late night comedy slash serious shit they also go and do real interviews from fucking Obama to Bush to I'm not even making it party related

man he hasn't said a fucking really real word to anyone yeah Jimmy that's who we land on well because you know that first of all they can cost me 80 bucks to fill up today

yeah god damn well you know it children were just murdered Yeah. But again, this politics is a very, you know, weird piece of bullshit. It's something that a lot of these presidents, you know, they say things before they voted in. And once they voted in, it's kind of like a little victory parade during their entire term.

They may do some things here and there, but nothing really changes. Nothing really happens. So I'm not going to kick Biden in the ass because he went on Jimmy Kimmore. during the time like now because this is what happens during presidency. There's so many real issues

going on in the world and America is fascinated with entertainment and money, capitalism, things like that. So it's not even about, you know,

the issues at hand. We just sent $40 billion to Ukraine and, you know, for what? Ask Jimmy Kimmel. Apparently, I would have to ask Jimmy Kimmel. But like even,

granted, your man, Trump, went on Fox and Friends and Hannity and it was just one big circle jerk every fucking time. But he also... He went on the news every day during the pandemic. He had a press conference because he felt like

if he did go on other networks... Then was kicking people out that asked real questions. But he did go on Chris Wallace once towards the... I want to say when the election was first starting or right before the election. And I appreciate that interview because they fucking argued

and Chris Wallace gotten his ass and pissed Trump off but I was like I mean I can appreciate that Trump actually went on there and allowed

somebody to ask questions that we want to know not just Sean Hannity and Fox friends that just really I really think are sexually attracted to him

you know you know Hanity was trying to fuck I know that's your man but Hannity was trying to be that's my man Hannity?

Has to be why does it have to be my man are you more of a Tucker guy you like Tucker's hair you want me to do that's good hair

Tucker Carlson is one of the funniest shows without being funny absolutely just the way he speaks and sets things up is like the master manipulator if you're dumb, poor and white and in middle America

but my thing is this are you in danger? Of course you're in danger and you know you're in danger because you're a great American and as a great American you know you're in danger now and I'm sitting there and took it like damn

Tucker am I in danger but but is Trump okay so my thing is this if Trump is to become president in 2024 which I think probably is going to happen

it's a high shot that he will yes do you think it's because people are just not happy with Biden and they just don't want to give him another term? Well, I think that's why Biden got elected. It's funny how that role could reverse because for the most part, Biden got in there for two reasons.

Everyone hated Trump. It was just whoever the fuck was going to be in the Democrat Party. And he's friends with Obama. Those were the two reasons why he was elected. That's not good. See, we need, above all, we just need a new way of governing this country. Like a lot of these, the ways of governing

and a lot of these laws and a lot of these laws and a lot of these, you know, these were put into place when this country was, these are how many, however many years ago. Things, life was totally different. We need to adjust to the way of life today. Like, we're still trying to, it's like trying to use a new iPhone on an old.

Are you suggesting our founding fathers may have made a mistake? How fucking dare you? No, I'm suggesting that our founding fathers This is treason. They put in a set of rules and laws. In the 1800s. Yeah, during their time.

That was, that was, you know, it suited what they were doing and how they were living and how the world was then. I think to be trying to still run on that same system, however many hundreds of years later, it's stupid. It's like, bro, you have to update these things. You have to upgrade our way of living in the society. So many things have changed in the world. Like, how are we still trying to run a country on these old laws and these rules that would put in place however many hundreds of years? It just does not make any sense. And I know the law of the land is the law of the land, but the land has changed.

Well, the land was stolen. The land was stolen. The land has changed. The world has changed. And we're still trying to run on these old ideologies and that these old white men made up however many hundreds of years ago. And it's just like, no wonder we can't be on the same page. Of course not. It's fucking crazy.

I don't know. I don't want to say excited, but very curious for the primaries to start. Those are always my favorite when it's just the Republican debates and just the Democratic debates because they shit on each other for weeks. And then we finally get to who the candidate for the Republicans is going to be and who for the Democrats is going to be. And after shitting on each other for weeks of how shitty of a president they would become and you shouldn't vote for them, they all get on the news and be like, I endorse Biden.

It's like, fam, how dumb do you think I am? For six weeks, you've been saying he'll never be a good president. And now you're like, he's the one. It's fucking crazy It's crazy It's crazy So I have a question Y'all heard about

Jay Prince and B for Wack 1 on it Is this a metaphor to politics Or are you segueing completely Oh, segueing completely Oh okay You thought she was gonna make it connect I did I thought Thought he was getting in our bag

I was talking about war so Well I did hear Jay Prince finally responded To a lot of the things that was being said about him. It was on a million dollars worth a game, right? Million dollars worth a game, yeah.

And listen, man, you know, as a man, you know, you can sit back and people say things about you and bring a certain energy to you. I think that Jay Prince walks with a lot of respect. He's, for the most part, a soft-spoken gentleman. You never see Jay Prince screaming and acting being, you know, irate. you know, using a lot of foul language. You don't really see that from Jake.

He's a gentleman. Yeah, he's an old. He's an OG in every sense of the word. It's like, bro, I'm not, I have grandchildren. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not going to be out here on social media, screaming and things like that. But I mean, you know, the things that. And you guys look alike.

Yeah. Yeah, they've been telling me that for at least three years now. The things that I was, you know, in listening to WAC, he was responding to a lot of things. He was on Clubhouse, you know, you know, Wack. you know, Wackers, he stays on Clubhouse. And he was saying some things. And I even, I even hit one of my homeboys in L.A.

And I was like, yo, you know, Wax says some things that I agree with sometimes. And I understand where it's coming from. And, you know, I get it. Agree and disagree. Yeah. A like with him. Yeah. But I asked him, I said, yo, but, you know, he's talking to, you know,

he's going at some, some guys that are, you know, pretty stand up. that have a certain respect. And they give the respect, which is why they get the respect, J. Prince in particular, you know what I mean? So it just was like, you know, what's wax angle with this? Like, why is he talking about J. Prince like this? Why is he going at J. Prince like this? Like, I just didn't understand.

I'm like, is it just for, you know, clicks and views? Or it's like he really is trying to take it because you never want to see things get to a certain level. I mean, you know, it's all clubhouse is. social media. It's supposed to be entertainment. It's an app. Yeah, it's an app. And, you know, but it's like when things, you start talking about certain individuals with a certain energy and a certain type of aggression, as men, you can only expect that it's going to get to a point where it's like, all right, we didn't, this wasn't

supposed to go this far. Like, we didn't, we didn't want it to go like this. And I think that, you know, a lot of things that WAC was saying about a lot of individuals, but in particular in this situation with Jay Prince, it was like, yo, though, like, you know, Jay Prince don't really, he don't really get into it nobody like this. And nobody has really ever spoken about Jay Prince like this or has disrespecting him like this. Like, I'm like, yo, is this like real or is this like something that, you know, I'm saying, like some, some, some, just some internet social media shit. Like, I just didn't know what was going on. And he was like, bro, I don't know. Well, it's sparked from, um, the woman that interviewed Larry Hoover in jail.

years ago took the footage and now that they're doing this documentary as help bring awareness and possibly free Larry Hoover they want the footage from the interview and she's saying well I own the footage

and they're saying no you don't so Wack 100 represents that woman that's his client now so that's the yes has he always represented or did he just decide I'm not going to I don't know okay he may have but the only reason we would know

that he did is now because it's a story I'm not sure what else that woman has worked on respectfully I just don't know he may have yeah he may have cherry picked and been like all right let me represent her in this case because it's which is fine totally fine he's a fucking manager that's a managerial thing to do

absolutely but I believe that's where it's sparked from and I guess she's not budging and whack is now being her mouthpiece more or less again as a manager does, so I get it. Okay.

But I just, those two don't need to publicly get personal insults over footage. Listen, as, you know, as men, though, there's certain things that you just can't, you can't say. And once you, once you open a certain frequency of energy and, you know, things of disrespect, it's like you're asking a lot for somebody that's big on respect to act like they weren't. disrespected. Yeah. And act like they didn't hear the things that somebody's saying about them. So I knew it was only a matter of time before, you know, Jay Prince responded.

And even in his response, he was still, you know, soft-spoken, very direct, though. Those are the people that terrify me the most. Yeah, because it's just, you know, it's a certain energy that you know with their words where they're not, you know, it's like, okay, they're serious. This is a joke. And, you know, some people with respect is just a, it's a very real thing. And we're in, you know, it's weird now because it's like everybody is, it's so openly disrespectful now. And I remember it was never, it wasn't, you know, you always have people that were disrespectful.

But now it's like, I think people are getting, first of all, people make money off of disrespecting people now. It's monetized. Disrespect is being monetized. Death is being monetized. Violence is being monetized. So it's kind of like everything is all over the place. It's like you never know what to expect out of people's mouth and what people will do for a check and what they won't do for a check. Well, I mean, the obvious answer is the internet because you can disrespect somebody without immediate consequences or no consequences at all because you're saying it through a screen and you may not run into that person.

Whereas before, if you want to disrespect someone, you would, I guess, would have to talk behind their back, which is kind of weird. But you'd have to say it while they were there. And there's consequences so people wouldn't disrespect the same way or they would think twice about what they were going to say because they're right in front of you. Yeah. And even now, you know, we've we've had some things said about us on social media and on other platforms that were disrespectful. But the one thing that I notice is, you know, when you run into some of these guys that, you know, have said crazy shit towards you and a certain level of disrespect, it's like when you see them, it's not that. It's never that. So it's like, you know, that.

So when I see that. It's never that. Yeah. So when I see that, it's like, okay, you're playing, you're, you're playing this new game. And I'm not, I didn't, I didn't download that into my, my system yet. So I'm not, you know, I can't run on that, on that, on that type of frequency because I'm not, I'm not playing that game. I'm not openly disrespecting nobody just for some clicks and some views and to make some money. Like, I'm not doing that because, again, I know where disrespect can go.

I've seen it become really serious, really quick. And then when you ask like, damn, what would happen? It really wasn't, it was never that serious. And it's like, wait, so y'all let that shit get here. And in this situation, I feel like, you know, I recognize that. And I'm just like, you know, fortunately, I think that the disrespect got to a serious place here. Yeah. And it's like, you know what I mean, it's unfortunate because these are, you know, it is what it is.

These are supposed to be the guys that we're looking up to. Wack is older. You know what I'm saying? He's an OG in his right. Jay Prince is an OG. And these are the guys that we're supposed to be looking at for guidance, for examples, for, you know what I'm saying? And it's just like, you know, it's unfortunate when the OGs fall into that circus or whatever. You know what I mean, disrespect and the social media thing.

And it's just like, you know, and I understand the world is different. So, you know, people, we fall victim to a lot of these things. And I've fallen victim. I've said things on social media that I never say in real life. I've reacted to shit I didn't need to react to it. I've done it, of course. You know, it's human, we're feelings. Yeah, when you turn these cameras and these mics on, you know, it's, you know, it's like it does something to you sometimes.

Like, damn, I forget that the cameras in the mics on. And I say this and now the world can hear it and they can't unhear it. But I think that, you know. And you're speaking to people that understand what you're saying, like your tone and sarcasm or like just how you actually feel, even if you say something. Like, oh, I know where it's hard is at with. He's not really saying that. But it's to everyone else that doesn't know you. So they take it as they should, literally, as the surface level.

And it's really unfortunate because it's like you can get on the phone with anybody. You know what I mean? Like even if you had a disagreement, which I'm sure that they tried to do with the whole getting a release of the footage and the interview and stuff like that, I'm sure that behind closed doors, things were communication was there. A lot of communication was open, especially if you're talking, managerial duties and we have this footage. Go to court. We're trying to do something.

Yeah, like, so I'm pretty sure those lines were open. So when things get disrespectful on the social media platform, you know, it's unfortunate because it's like, yo, y'all can really talk about this away from. Like, we should not know anything about this. We should not know the inside dealings of what's going on, what's happening. Some things the public just doesn't need to know. We don't need that. We don't need that much information on, you know, business like that.

We don't need that. Yeah, but when, and I'm not even saying whack specifically, but just since we're talking about the internet in general, when kind of your whole stick on the internet is conflicts with people and back and force with people. And that becomes what you're known for and what people on the internet want from you. It becomes a cycle you can't stop. So at some point you're starting to look for people to have these internet arguments with because it's what works for your platform and what people. only care about when it's in regards to you. Right. So even like, we can use the whack case, for example.

Maybe it could have been just solved in court, but it can also be an opportunity to have another back and forth, to have another thing on the internet to keep this cycle going. Because, I mean, I know whack is known for a lot of other stuff and is an actual businessman and the internet clubhouse shit is not his, he's not a YouTuber. Yeah, that's not his only source of income. But as far as Wack's name, and I'm not saying,

he's doing this intentionally, but as far as WAC's name being so popular the last year is based off things he said about people and back and force that he's had with people. And I see it with countless other platforms that once you realize you don't particularly have a talent and what is clicking is you talking and fake beefing with other people, you just have to keep finding fucking fake enemies or like some. type of back and forth and pray that they respond so you can keep this platform going. And that's just where we're at with shit. Yeah, but that's a, that's a, I don't see the, I don't see the, you know, the long,

the long game in that though. Because like I said, you disrespect certain people and things go a certain way. Then it's like, you know. Well, I mean, it's, it's the six nine for him though. I mean, six and nine, I wouldn't say he's the first one to do it, but he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, We've seen that people have adopted his strategy and staying popular. Yeah, but even that, that wasn't a long game knowing that. That was a very short.

I'm not saying it's a long game. Yeah, so if you're going to look at that and say, oh, hey, I can do this and make some, yeah, but where's the long? Like, how long was that? How long did that last, though? Well, I mean, he obviously had criminal activity attached to it, but some, with these YouTubers in their basement, there might be a long game if they can continue to find other people to just go back and forth with. Yeah, I mean, back and forth is one thing. We can go back and forth all day.

We can have our debates and we can have. But when you, now, when it's at a disrespectful frequency and it's like, okay, you're saying things and, you know, it's just like, all right, now the disrespect is at an all time high. And, you know, in our culture, unfortunately, we know where disrespect leads. You know, it leads to more personal things, more real things, real life. Well, a lot of people think because they've had longevity in that and nothing has happened that it is just for play play. but eventually that's not going to be the case if you continue with that type of energy especially with specific people and with playing the long game you have to get more disrespectful that's why you're saying like on the internet now people can save whatever and it's getting

insane because they have to keep one-upping their last back and forth like it has to be more aggressive now it has to be suck my dick it has to be oh i fucking kill you even though i don't leave my house like it has to go because you have to one up your last one that's their longevity to get more and more disrespectful. I've been, I've been disrespected by old friends. I've been

disrespectful by family. Edon. Edon has disrespected me. I don't think I've been that. You keep showing up every week and I fired you nine weeks ago. You show up every week. Fucking Stanley in the office

or whichever one got fired and kept coming to work. But, you know, for me, I just, you know, because I'm, I just and like you said, the soft-spoken ones, man, is the ones because I am the way I am

because there's a small part of my brain where I'm very stupid and I'm very I will throw everything away in 20 seconds so you have a small part I have a larger portion of that I'm stupid

it shrinks as you get older it shrinks when I was younger it's definitely it was a lot larger now it's like you know and I'm grateful and I hate it, but I'm grateful to have friends that are incarcerated to tell me, you know, don't let nobody trick you out your spot, stay doing what you're doing, you know, people with disrespect you, laugh at it, keep it moving as long as nobody don't put no hand. Let them say

what they want to say. Yeah, and also in that, because I was talking to another podcaster, because she was having an issue with some of like the blatant disrespectful things that were being said about her from other media platforms. And she's like, this is like, this is no more podcast back and forth. This is like really, really difficult. disrespectful type of shit that this person is saying. And then, of course, like all their minions go in the mentions and all that. And I said to her, I said, when you go outside, has one one out of these 10,000 things ever been said to your face? She said, no.

I said, what happens when you go outside? Nothing but love. Yo, love the podcast. Love you. You know, inspirational. Calm down. You'll be fine. Yeah.

Listen, refresh my mentions. It's terrible things said about me. Awful things that there's been people. was lied on me on the internet fucking said shit way over the line got fucking family anytime I've ever gone outside not one single person

has ever said any of the negative shit that I read on the internet about myself and it's a very small window and percentage of that online of disrespect it's not but you know certain things that certain people say I'll get your jokes off like funny I welcome I'm not that I'm not my ego is not like that

you can you can say whatever you want online i don't you know i don't give a fuck about that but you know when it comes from certain people and you know it's like you know you know me a little better than that and it's like you know you can't play a certain game with me because if and when i do decide to play that same game you know you might find out that you're not equipped to play that game well that and i think people do take advantage which I think we've discussed. I think people specifically on the internet on platforms

take advantage of knowing that person's not going to reply. So what they can say any lie they want because they know that person's not going to reply to you because they just view you as a fucking minion. So they can get all their shit off and take advantage and, you know, a lie not challenge sometimes becomes a truth. So they can literally say anything. And it's like you're not going to reply.

so it can look like, oh, it must be true because they're not saying nothing. It's like, no, I just don't reply to that person. Yeah. And it takes a lot of maturity to, you know, see the disrespect, hear the disrespect and not respond to it. Because like you said, is this going to matter in 10 minutes? No. You know what I'm saying? Like, is any of this going, is the disrespect coming from this person going to matter in 10 minutes?

Is it going to matter in five minutes? No. So it's like you can't react to everything. But I do understand in, you know, Jay Prince's case where, you know, he's at a point where, you know, he's just like, listen, you know, I walk respect. I demand respect because I respect others. And, you know, when you're, you're disrespecting me, you know, now it's in, it's up to me on how I want to respond and how I want to handle that disrespect and how I want to meet that disrespect. So, you know, I just, again, I'm, I just, I just hope and wish that, you know, this thing doesn't turn into something else between him and whack. Because, again, these are, these are older, you know, people to look up to, man.

We need these, we need them to be the example of how we handle conflict and how we handle, you know, business and disrespect and everything doesn't have to turn violent. Everything doesn't have to turn into something that is unfortunate. it, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, okay, we understand that disrespect has been put on the table. But like, let's get an example of how we handle that without it turning into something else. Yeah. And again, that's just me talking because, again, you know, again, you know, we losing so many people to, you know, whether it's violence, whether it's just jail time, whether it's, you know, whatever it is. It's just like, I don't, you know, I want to see something different.

I want to see a different side of how the culture can be. Like, oh, yeah, we disrespect. And we've seen it. We've seen artists disrespect each other who are now great friends and done business together. Like, we've seen examples of it where things have been very disrespectful. And, you know, fortunately it didn't turn into something that was crazy. It was like, okay, it was a conversation. These gentlemen, you know, they recognized where they both were wrong at, things that they said that was wrong.

And they're mature enough in there in a space where now they can sit and talk about it. And be like, yo, you know what? That was stupid. You know what? that was whatever like that's past us that's behind us let's move forward and i just hope that this situation is one of those situations i'm with you listen man they're about to go fucking crazy with bitcoin and marcy marcio i don't even want to laugh at that's die is gonna go fucking nuts with the bit why you say that uh jack and jack and jack and j or i think maybe just jack

from twitter uh i think started um like a bitcoin school in marcy oh really which i think is really dope. But that doesn't mean we can't joke about how much hand-to-hand Bitcoin is going to happen in the projects. Oh, it's definitely. The scammers is, you know, they're studying as we speak. They're going to find a way. You think they're not? And I think it's very important. But you know, like, when criminals go to jail and become, like, better criminals, I feel like putting Bitcoin in the projects might just take the scammers to, like, Bowser level. Yeah, because now you scammer. Like, there'll be the final boss of scammers. In Bedside.

I'm sorry. Anything that has to do with computers, the hackers, you know, they rule the world. So they're going to find a way to hack something. The scammers are the number one direct-to-consumers that we have in our... Direct-to-consumers are the most direct-to-consumer. No, they take from the consumer and then leave us with the bill. Well, they take from some consumers, but they also sell back to the consumers. No, there's some Robin Hood in...

Yeah. And some honor amongst thieves. You know that. For sure. You guys have any crypto? No, I do not. We were supposed to have some, but... Well.

I should hold another story. Yeah. It was very cryptic. Well, well. But yeah, so I'll read just... So people know exactly what we're talking about. Jay-Z launches Bitcoin Academy initiative for Marcy Projects, residence with Jack Dorsey. Many people believe that cryptocurrency holds a best amount of power in the future.

Financial Freedom, celebrities have teamed up with Bitcoin. Let's get to the real shit. Because this is just talking about crypto. The business partners are teaming up to help fund the Bitcoin Academy, an initiative offered to the residents of Brooklyn Marcy Houses where Hove grew up. Sean Carter Foundation has always been about providing educational access and opening doors of opportunity to undeserved, undeserved communities. Underserved. They wrote undeserved. Vibe, y'all should check this car because now's over saying, yo, Marcy don't deserve shit.

Opening doors. That's underserved. S-E-R-V-E-D. Oh, well, I'm stupid. I need to be in this academy. Yeah. We'll sign you up, no way. Where is reading?

I know, I was about to say, underdeserved. I'm about to say, no, underserved. State of Gloria Carter, yeah. Glory would never say that. Right. No one should be left out or behind. We truly appreciate the partnership with Block and Jack Dorsey to bring financial, specifically Bitcoin education to the Marcy residence,

where I spent many years raising my family. Everyone should be empowered to make informed financials. decisions in order to take care of themselves and their families. I agree. I think that's amazing. Salute to Jay, man. I just, I'm curious to see how some people take that academy. Yeah, we need to see how it's about, what it works and then the benefits of it.

But either way, it's obviously going to be a place where people can go and get information. Yeah. about the new way of currency in the world. So it's not a bad thing. I think that it's information that will be put directly in the middle of the community where people need it. So in that case alone, if we don't know yet what's going to come out of it and how it will help people, we do know that it's a positive thing for the community. I mean, I would like to see Bleak just like bring Jack through the Jets. Where he used to get the Hades from.

Just see Jack chilling in. Show Jack how to roll up. That's what I want to see Jack. Judging by Jack's beard and haircut, I think he probably can roll better than bleak. A Jay, he knows how to roll a joint. A blunt? I don't know if Jack, I don't know if he knows how to roll a blunt.

Yeah. A joint, yes. I could say Jack having some organic backwood. Jack, he looks like a bon guy. That he actually gets in the backwoods. I feel like a bonga. He's a bonger. Oh, he's definitely a bong.

He's a bonger. He's a bonger. I think blunts are easier to roll than joints still. Is that just me? That's just you. Whose blunts have you been rolling? You're from the inner cities. You grew up.

You can roll a blunt, fried chicken, and babysit at the same time. And what they call a talented, talented black queen. Okay? You sell dope,

braidhead and... On the same porch? Look at the result of Jack Harlow empowering black women. Now, Mall is behind black women because...

Well, I've been behind black women a lot. He saw the Jacks with crypto... Jacks have been going crazy. The Jacks are going crazy. The Jacks are going crazy. The Jacks are...

The tracks are all trades. The trays are all jack. Woo! Baby Dia is back. Don't let me set it up. Baby, D. I'm so glad you never pursued your musical career. You still have a mic in front of you.

When I called you and Rory out to do y'all battle, you pussyed up. So don't, at least I put my shit out into the world. And I got to put it on the calendar so I know when to start writing. Yeah, I'm not a rapper. So you're way more advanced that writing rhymes than I will ever be. I tried one time. I read that shit back to myself. I said, man, fuck this.

Put it on the calendar. I think you were probably being too hard on yourself because of who... No, it was trash. Oh, okay. It was trash. It was trash. Like, I read it and I was like, in my head it sounded so much better. But seeing it on paper, it was just like, I did that same?

I could definitely see Young Mall writing. Yo, sauce. Sauce money, what you think of this from? I wish. I wish I could call Sauce and ask him, y'all, listen, huh? I might have been really nice. I might have been dope. He could have a ghost road for you.

I had the stories. I was in the environment, so I knew I had the inspiration. so I knew I had the inspiration to draw from it. It just was like, you was what the rappers rapped about, right? They was rapping your lifestyle. No, not my lifestyle, but they would definitely wasn't my lifestyle. But no, it was just, I don't know.

I think that I was, it's weird because I understand like in seeing like how Jay records he doesn't write, he just like mumbles it to itself and then goes over. I think I'm the same way. I think my, I think I don't write fast enough for my thoughts. Okay, that makes sense. So it's like when I was writing, it's like, like, damn, what I was just thinking about?

And I'll get lost. And I'm like, oh, that shit ain't going. And then I'll just lose it. Then I get discouraged and I don't want to write. And it's like, well, fuck that rhyme. But I know how to make words rhyme. It just was like, what is the pick? What am I paint?

What am I really? It has to come together. It can't just be rhyming words. Fucking cat in the hat rhymes. Yeah. Right. You can't say that on a mic on a beat. What the fuck is he talking about?

Like you wasn't painting Fordham Road. Not really. Wasn't painting. I didn't feel like I was on Fordham when you was rapping. Yeah. Like, that's what I was trying to do. I was trying to take people away from the city. What was your Fordham scheme?

You was rapping about Miami. You was one of those. Not even Miami. Just like, just like, like, just this. What if this is like our paradise? Like, what if this is it? Like, it doesn't get any better than it. Yeah.

You wasn't on Fordham riding in the Ford. Damn. I don't know. Forget it. See, if I would have wrote some shit like that. If I would have wrote some shit like that. You wouldn't, you want to Fordham Road and then saying, damn would be.

No, that's not straight to the top. See what I'm saying? That shit just don't hit. It don't connect. The homies would look at me like, nah, so that ain't that. What's the mascot for Fordham University? A RAM?

Yeah, Ram. Oh, my God. The Ford Ram. Oh, my God. You got to be a rapper again. Well, here's the thing. I didn't go to Ford University. The Ford Ram in the Ford Dam on Ford.

Like, come on, man. Fordham is not that interesting. I promise you. After that bar, it's like, then what? I mean? See, that's what? Because you can have one, but it's like, all right, but where you're going after that?

I mean, you could take us to Tremont where you bought the trees from Mott. We're not just not. We're not going to just run around the Bronx. Look, now you're just going to random streets. No, no, no, no. And then from Mott, you go to Mott Haven, like, come on, bro. We're not doing that. The niggas would listen one time and be like,

his son is trash. You never bought trees from Mott on Tremont? Oh, no, for sure. I think your brothers would have caused you trash when that helped you. My brothers, the homies, the homies, the homies right outside my door would have called me back. Would have made it to your brothers? Yeah, like some of my brothers, they would have never heard them robes.

They'd be like, what are you talking about? Would have made it to the Rockefeller door where Kanye was knocking on? See, and that's important. You see, at the Rockefeller door, they won't let him in like, yo. Yo, use your key card, ma'all. But see, it's good that I noticed that, though, that I was trashed. See, a lot of these rappers don't know that they trash. Of course not.

99.9% of them go. And that's the problem. See, I knew I took myself out of that pool. I wasn't going on. But guess what? They believed in themselves and they're rich. A lot of these nigs ain't rich? Okay.

You think these rappers are rich? But a lot of trash rappers are rich. There are some trash rappers that are very rich. Well, now, yeah, today, absolutely. But they figured out how to make good music. Well, someone thinks it's good music. A good majority has to. So I'm sure there would have been somebody who thought your shit was dope.

I think that, okay, so I will be honest. I think that if you're starting as a rapper or a singer or whatever, a writer now, I think that you're more inclined to keep going because you can get your shit out there more freely now. And you see a lot of people that are trash. Because even I've seen A-list rappers where I'm like, man, I can do that shit. But in the early, late 90s, early 2000s, hell no.

Because then you had to write your rhyme. Then you had to book studio time to record it. And then you had to go stand out of town in front of the fucking universal building hoping to see somebody going in that would take your fucking song from you and listen to it. But you could see him in the kitchen. That's why what we're saying.

Exactly. No, I was trash. You had the sheethole. And it was harder for me. Like, if I was going to try to present something, are you kidding me? Like, I would have to be at least... And that's why I think that you were probably too hard.

That's where I said you were probably too hard on yourself. Definitely. You didn't give yourself room to grow because you had to feel... You felt like you had to be perfect on the first try because of you coming from rap royalties. Well, I'm still a perfectionist. Well, did any of your... Because you have more than just Biggs and Hot.

Did any your other brothers try to rap? No. Uh-uh. Look what... It's not... Any of your sisters? No. God, no. No.

It wasn't really They wasn't mad when they signed a mill Should have been them Jamal being maddened and they signed a mill No Nobody was mad That's funny though I've been in the kitchen all week

Just rhyme it to myself And all of a sudden My brother is Jamil Why the fuck is Amil being signed Yo Now they said the DJ out her name It just will be That would make for a funny

Like skit in a sitcom though Like, just think about that in the sitcom. Like, a family where the brothers, like, own a record label and the sisters in the kitchen just rapping all day and then y'all go sign, like, a whole random chick to a record dude. I'd feel like...

Man, we've been in here spitting bars all week. Like, this is... That's funny. But, yes, no. I'm never writing around again, though. But look, I still have a mic in front of me. I still, you know, cameras. You said you said you were about a Rory.

In a freestyle? No, I'm writing. I'm not freestyle. But that's what they call... I'm coming with writhms. That's true. I've changed freestyle from off the top to meaning just going without a chorus on a beat. Which, by the way, I'm happy.

That's not just now. That's been the way for at least 20 years. Yeah. All flex freestyle is doing with freestyle. Yeah. We actually heard those balls on records that later came up. Which, by the way, I'm very happy that that became a thing. Like, I know it's an art form to come off the top and that's crazy.

Very few. Very few can do that. I just just not something that I think we need to push forward. You should write it down. Write it down. But, you know, again, it's a different era because, like we said before, back in, you know, early 2000s, whatever, you can take the same four rhymes and travel to country with different radio stations and spit those bars. Then put them on the album. Yeah, didn't put them on the album.

Nobody would really care. Now it's like you get flex 100 bars. You can't go to Charlie Sloth or Lakers with those same hundred bars. I was watching, this was years and years. years ago when Vince Staples and Tyler were on, I want to say Ebro, Ebro in the morning, and Rosenberg was like, Vince, like, you want to freestyle. Vince was like, though, I should put out an 18-song album. No.

No. I don't want to freestyle. I got no more rhymes for now. Yeah, but I like those type of rappers, though, that don't just overly, because a lot of rappers paint themselves in that box, too, where they just become the freestyle guy. Yeah, absolutely. People can't tell you what their project sound like. They can't tell you what the single song.

sound like, but they just like, yo, is he going freestyle? Speaking of which, Sahai's album. Sahai. Well, I'm sorry. The story of Egot. Yes. Three for four. Three for four.

You said it wasn't really like in the first track. I was very nervous when extra, I think it's extra hard came on. But I don't want to start with hate because I really did enjoy the last three. He was metaphoring us to death on songs with substance. It was interesting It was like It was like Royce's bar exam series

meets A fucking J. Cole album It was interesting And I enjoyed it though I thought it was really good I think I'm with you on that I don't dislike extra But I think once helped me God

Came on after that And then slide And then obviously the last Track Tiz with Jaquise It's hard yeah It's super hard I hope this means that that an actual album is coming and this is what he had, you know.

I hope so, man, because Sahai is one of my, he's one of my favorite, favorite, favorite artists to listen to. I think he's one of the elite rappers that we have. Don't you know, Saha, or don't y'all speak or have spoken? Very briefly. I would like for him to come on the podcast. I would love to shoot something with Saha. I would love to shoot something with Saha. I think he's a very interesting, interesting mind.

He has an interesting way of thinking about things and, you know, I like his specific. perspective on things. I like the way he doesn't over, he doesn't like over advertise his art and his craft and his skill. Like you hear from him when he wants you to hear from him. You see him when he wants you to see him. Like even this project, four tracks. Yeah. You know what I mean? That shows you what type of dude he is. Like he ain't giving you 18, 19, 20 joints. He's like, let's take this four pack. I'll get back with you in a minute. You know, I'm cooking up. I'm doing what I do. And I think his story from just writing for a lot of different artists, you know, being from

the South, I just think he's an interesting person. I would love to sit down and really, really kick it with him about, you know, Sahai and just gets him no more about Saha because I do think he needs to be talked about more when you start talking about the elite rappers. I think he's one of them. I agree. I think he wants to say it. Oh, yeah.

I mean, well, he says it. I'm better than y'all. He was the best rapper. Yeah, no, he says it. He definitely says it. So yeah, Egot, the EP available now. If you haven't heard it, download it, stream it. You know, Sahai is one of those rappers that if you appreciate the art of rap and hip hop.

He's definitely somebody you want to listen to. So shout out to Sahai. Five year anniversary, control, Cizza. I think it's safe. I thought it was safe three years ago to say Control was a classic album. Is that okay to say? I think so. I think it's a fully a classic album.

I think so. I think that's safe to say. Well, she put out what? Five records, six records. Five on the deluxe for the five-year anniversary. The first one being the Love Galora alternative version. Where I get why the other one made it, but she's barring us. I'm glad I'm glad she put up.

She counted the seconds it took me to nut and then threw it in my face. She said 80 seconds, that's three minutes. I was like, damn, he was counting. Yeah, women have a way of, uh, letting you know how much they hate you. Yeah. With love, they cut deeper when they dislike you.

Yeah. But it definitely put where Siza was, her headspace, like, times 10, five years ago. Because a lot of the records that didn't make it are wordier, I think. And as much as control showed you exactly where Sizzar was and how confused and I guess confused to be the word about where she was in life and just her mind state

this put it to a different perspective I see why these didn't make it but it kind of gave you an even extra look at where Sizzah was five years ago and very much relatable but she's talking some shit on here I also did not know she had

come and see me tonight before I mean I know party and Drake wrote it but they gave it to Siza and that's 2 a.m. now on this deluxe here. So I guess she just didn't keep it and then party decided, all right, I'll just keep this for myself. Which is what happens a lot.

Oh, for sure, especially with party. Yeah. But it was cool to hear her sing that hook and that record and put her. Listen, since this is easily one of our favorite artists. We've been talking about her, giving her love for years. You should listen to it. Yeah.

Demeris, you listen to it? I have not listened to it yet, no. We need the female perspective. on Siza. You sent it to me like an hour before I got here. I didn't I thought you sent it to me. No, Ed didn't send it. Oh, Ed didn't send it. Oh, Edon sent it. Oh, Edon. All right.

I didn't listen to it. Not yet. You guys are terrible. I didn't listen to it either? Not yet. It's far. I'll have a dose of Sizzes. I'll have a dose of Sizz of it. It's fine. Don't worry about it.

I understand, because Siza did this on the first album where she pretended she was going to put an album out for a while. Tease this with music. I relate. You definitely relate to that. And I really thought with Good Days and the Thai record that it was coming.

But I think even though she's just celebrating a five-year anniversary, I don't know if we're getting this his album soon. Even though she's on headlining Day in Vegas, which usually that means, all right, if you're going to headline a big showcase like that, and you haven't put an album out in five years, something is coming. You're gearing up for something. But, I mean, Kendrick did that to us with,

I think it was Day in Vegas or another. the festival. Was it, was it Dan Vegas? Did he do good kids? I had city in full. Maybe that's what he did instead. I forgot.

But I know he came out on Baby Keem shoot for whatever festival was, but I feel like Kendrick has done that to us. A lot of TD artists have done the festival trick, I feel like. Was it? Was it? I can't remember what festival it was.

It was it Coachella? I was thinking I'm like, it was a Coachella that he did that? Maybe it was. That day and festival, day and Vegas festival lineup is sick. Because emotional oranges is on it? Day one.

Exactly. Yeah, I mean, that's really what did it for me. Yeah, no. When I saw that, I said, I'm there. You got to be kidding me. You got to fucking kidding me. Return to Travis Scott. Ugh, no.

Here for E.O. No, thank you. I might go out to that. To, uh, Day and Vegas? Yeah. Even though I just told everyone on the last episode how much I don't think I can do festivals anymore. Day and Vegas is in, yeah, Las Vegas festival. I'm trying to find the flyer we had.

Day and Vegas is in Vegas? Yeah. Edding? Wow. Go figure. I had no idea. Las Vegas Festival grounds. Thank God you guys you're here.

What day is it at any? It's from September 2nd to the 4th. Oh, same time it's Mayed. Right. Is it the same weekend? That's usually when Maid is. Likely. Maid's, I like Made in America's lineup so far.

Maiden America. Made in America is... They only do a few names in the beginning. September 3rd to the 4th at Benjamin Franklin Park in Philadelphia. Yeah, it's overlapping. Bad Bunny Tyler to Creator, Little Uzi 3rd, Jasmine, Selvin, Burner Boy, Snarlagra. Kodak, Pusha T, Low T-J, Tate McCrae, Fueza Regida, Toro Imoa.

Oh, wow, Toro's, wow. Yeah. That's a good name to see. I haven't seen Toro performing in a long time. Toro Imois, Babyface Ray, Key Glock. Shout out to Key Glock, Larry June. Relsby, Victoria Monet, the talented Victoria Monet. She doesn't, I don't talk about Victoria Monet.

Your baby, mom. I talk about her. I love her. Victoria Monet is super, super talented. One of my favorite artists and writers. Chimbala and Ryan Castro. That's September 3rd to the 4th Made in America. Bad Bunny going to have that shit.

Edna's going to take a shirt off. You bought your tickets already? No. I'm going to actually see both. Well, Kendra's not there. I'm going to see Kendrick and Bad Bunny in August. I'm looking for a day in Vegas. I mean, it's everybody.

You're just going to name the music industry. Just for headliners, it's Siza Friday, J. Cole Saturday, Travis Scott on Sunday. But on Friday, Siza Playbolic Carty, Summer Walker, Triple Red, Reed, Georgia Smith, City Girl, Little T.J. Amin, J. Rock, Simio, UMI.M.I. J.K. Cole, 21 Savage, her, Joji, Don Tolliver, Ben Staples. Sabrina Claudio, T. Payne, J.I.D. or J. Masego. Go back. Sabrina.

Sunday. Travis Scott, baby Keem, Jene Iko, push a T, blast. We ain't got a name everybody. Everybody's fucking there. I'm just mad that it is overlapping. Yeah. Made America. Yeah.

I mean, I guess you got to do one of those things. If you had to choose. You got to pick a day to go. If you had to choose, get the fuck, you know what you do. But both of the days, the Sunday, the fourth, both days are really good, though. So if you had to choose. Philly is closer. Philly is closer.

But I would like to see Tyler. Mm-hmm. Oh, I think. I would like to see Cole. But again, I would like to see Siza. I bet you would. You know what I mean? Even though you don't listen to her deluxe on the way here.

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't listen to it on the way here. Fasty-knit. I would love to see Siza. Damn, we would talk about something, and I wanted to get into something with the festivals. I don't know. We were talking about Siza right into festivals. Oh, well, shit, Migos is not going to Governor's Bowl.

Oh, yes. So we can have the conversation. Migos is over. No. I'm still rolling with this is part of a rollout to the next project. I don't know, man. The Migos is rich, man. They could miss a headliner at a festival.

No, they can't. They don't need the money. But that's a big thing to. They don't have new music. It's not like, of course, it's anticipated because it's the Migos and they have hits, but it's not like the way. the way how Travis would be anticipated or someone that just put an album out,

you want to go see them headline. Tyler right now, I want to go see Maine America because he just put an album out. I didn't get to the tour. What about Cuevo and Takeoff having a record? Hotel Lobby. What about it?

That's the name of it, right, Hotel Avi? What about it? I mean, is somebody missing off the record. I get it. I know. I think this is all part of to build the anticipation for the return of the MECOS. Takeoff didn't have a verge on Baden Bouges.

But he was in the video. He was in the video. Let us know. He was in the video. So it's like we're not seeing him. He's not talking about this hotel lobby record. What a brilliant answer. We don't talk about that in that situation.

I don't care to talk about those gentlemen. But what a brilliant answer to that question. Does it look like I was left off Badd and Burgeon? It was an honest. Does it look like it? I'm here, right? I'm here. in the video.

I'm in the same fucking floral shirt as them with the same amount of jewelry. Does it look like I was left off? I look bad and I look. And I'm bougie. You know what I mean? I was, I was so bougie. I didn't get on the record.

Exactly. There you go. But this is a little different. There's no, uh, well, this is the Uncan Few collaboration, right?

Yeah, exactly. This is their only built for Cuban links. This is their ghost and Ray. Uh, if you want to call it that. Okay. If you want to call it that,

but. But you think of sentiment. it. Yeah. I think, I think, I think, I think, offset is making his liquid swords, maybe. His, his rendition of liquid swords, yes. But yeah, it's just the optic of it is, you know, we, we know when things aren't, you know, you can feel that energy. I think even if it is real, I do their family, so I think they're going to get back together.

I think this will work out for them career-wise better than if they just stayed together. Yeah, but I'm just saying right now, them. turning down this governance balls because they're not on the same page. Or just to confirm all the rumors so we can really get into this rollout of the return of the Migos because that album is going to be anticipated. More than it would be had they not broken up. Yeah, but now if you're going that route, you got to go all the way there. That's what I'm saying.

They do it. It has to be public feuding. They cancel. No, no, no, not this little covert subliminal shit. It has to be direct words. If you're going to go that route of the rebrand and the return of the MIGO, and all of that, it has to completely be torn down. I think that's...

We're unfollowing each other in 2022. That's crazy. No, no, yeah, I get it. But we got to go deeper than that. It got to be worse than a... We got to get a video like, Cuevo. Somebody got to be spitting at the camera. It got to be like...

It got to be gone. It got to be beef. It got to be like, oh, these niggas about the fight. Like, if you're going to go to Return of the Migos' rollout route, it has to go all the way there. Timers, look at this hypocrite with Jay Prince and whack-oh, I don't want to see any violence. How will we just be an example? Now he wants fucking Quaver to spit on takeoff. No, no, no, no.

No, this is different. This is different because we're saying that this is a rollout. Like, this is on purpose. Jay Prince, in that other situation, that's real shit. It ain't no rollout. It could be a rollout for Larry Hoover to get out. Nah, Jay Prince ain't playing a rollout game. The rollout to free Larry.

Jay Prince don't play the rollout game. No, he definitely don't. He's not playing a rollout game. Someone's going to get rolled out. Exactly. It's another rollout game. He ain't playing that rollout. Exactly.

Into a carpet. This situation, if the Migos is going this route where they're going to act like they're having a feud and they're not together. It has to be more than unfollowing on Instagram. They cancel to show us. That's a big deal. So to me, this is the, the Unkin, and Unkinfew was like, that was the eyebrow razor like, okay, this is a little, not saying they can't do that and still be cool.

They could still have a side project, but we didn't really ask for the Uncanfew project. Everybody wasn't screaming for the Unconfew project. So they're not feeding the fan base with that. Right. Some degree they are. The fan base wants a meet goes out. That's music. Of course.

Okay. So then what are they wagering in going all out for that rollout? What? They look stupid? They're wagering people caring and returning for Amigo's album if they decided to get back to it. But I'm saying it would have to, when you go that route of playing like we're beefing, we're broken up, we're not a group anymore, you have to go all the way there. You have to completely tear it down. Because no one's going to give a fuck if they just get quiet.

Yeah, and if you get quiet, unfollow on Instagram, people don't know. And now it's like, okay, you can't let it come out. that that was just a rollout. Yeah, but the people are like, y'all, y'all playing that game? Like, first of all, but that's the story for the rollout. Like, even if they do the interviews

or even all the press around the new album, that would be the main question. Like, yo, what the fuck happened? But what happened to this route, world? What happened to just putting out a bomb-ass record? It's 2002. But that's what I'm saying.

And it's not like they're not capable. It's not like the Migos is not capable. Speaking in the theory of this may be a rollout for a return of the Migos' project. I'm just speaking to that. The Migos is more than, capable of putting out a fucking bomb. Musicians and artists

have to be entertainers more than they ever have been before. They have to entertain us, which has to be tied to the music. And yes, it can, of course, we love a great record and that's entertaining, but it's

an artist. They have to be entertainers. They have to entertain us in the way we were just talking about that whole call back to that internet shit that we were discussing of what gets clicks and what people are doing on the internet to maintain a fan base, it requires more. And it's not just a record anymore, no matter if you're the Migos or a fucking unsigned artist. You have to entertain us because we're all on our phone. So entertain me. Once the song is over, what are you doing? I get that. But here's my thing,

because this was part of taking it back to the whole Pock and Bigfew, right? And they say when When Big and Pock approached each other backstage and they had words, Pock's thing was, you're just trying to sell records. So it's like you're doing all of this to sell records. That was frowned upon back then. It was all about putting out a great fucking record, putting out a great album, then touring. And these guys were entertainers.

Well, I ask you this, just in regards to the records being sold, did it work? For Pock? I'm just talking about in regards selling records, and for Big. Oh, yeah, but It worked But yeah, but Big

See Big wasn't playing that Because he really felt like Like that was a French Well, Pac was playing So it's not like I'm not gonna play this game Just to sell records I thought you was my dog

Like you understand I'm saying So if the Migos are family Don't play the game Of beefing and unfollowing Just for the sake of a return To Migos To sell some records

Like this is the Migos They don't need to play These fucking charades To sell records But it's a different era Like Again I'm repeating myself of that Drake line I love so much.

I wonder how they survive in this era, like the older artists and the OG because they don't have to deal with this internet shit. And we don't even know, we don't even know the rappers we look up to as like they would never play that game

just because they were never around when Twitter was. So we never really got to know their real thoughts. They could have been a super cornball and would have been playing these games worse than these kids. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Because they were kids. 24, 25 years old. And Pock was playing a game that was attached to a, it's not like Pock made, up in his head. It was derived from an actual situation that almost at that time cost him his life. So, yes, he added big in for the entertainment purposes, but it was attached to something that was

very much real. So I can't say it's the same thing. But yeah, man, of course they're going to play these fucking reindeer games in this era. I don't like it. It's going to be not when it's real family. I don't like it. I think that's probably the best way to play the games. Because we know we're family and it's okay. We can all get together as a family and create a story and then come back together. Do you think they give a fuck about,

let's say the minimum of where this all started, do you think they give a fuck about unfollowing each other? I think that they know that that says something to the public. I think they know that that we look at that like, oh shit, there's something wrong in the camp. There's some tension in the camp

because unfollowing somebody is a big deal. So I think that they know that. They're very aware of their team knows that. But again, I'm just hoping that this is not for a rollout. I'm hoping that it's really tension. And not like, they're not going to be, it's not going to become like a beef thing. This is real family we're talking about. But I do understand if it's real tension, whether it be business, whether it be personal relationships, things like that, whatever it may be.

I just let it be. And I'm always on the side of it. Just let it be authentic. Let it be real. Don't do something just for the optic of it and be behind. closed doors laughing like yo they think we really beefing. But then I'm gonna look at y'all like, I'm never coming to a live show again.

I'm gonna look at them like entertainers in 2022. Yeah, but you gotta have some integrity as entertainer too though. They're too big of shit like that. Absolutely. You don't have to. Yeah, but then take your way. So then go perform on a fucking cruise ship for the rest of your career and get out of that shit.

They are too big to do you shoo. Go fuck with the people outside of the culture that don't really know who you are and just like, oh, I remember this record. I heard this at Bloomingdale's one day when I was shopping. They're the New York's. But I'm saying if you don't. The culture, the real like, the niggas that really fuck with you?

Like, we don't want to see y'all go do some fake beef to sell no records. Get the fuck out of it. But one could say if you don't compromise at least some of your integrity, you will be the artist that performs on a fucking cruise ship. If you would keep all that integrity and go on fucking Carnival Cruise. Nah, I think it's different. Because people, we're in the era where that is not looked upon as credible. Like, we don't care what's true and what's not as long as it's entertaining.

It's a, I think you're speaking for a very small percentage of, the consumers. No more. I think it's a lot. Yeah, I think you're speaking for the small. I think you miss something. You underestimate just how many corny people are in the world. If y'all think that young kids that's, let's say in college, that are fans and amigos,

you know, y'all think that if they find out the amigos did all this to sell records, they're going to be like, oh, okay. I think those college kids would be like, what a smart marketing plan? Nah, I don't think so. I don't think so. But this is the thing. Consumers are not stupid. No matter how young you are, you're not stupid.

They actually are very stupid. Well, they're the smartest I think they've ever been just because of access. And information. Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. The consumers are not, you can, you may be able to pull certain things off and trick the consumers, right? But when you start talking about, oh, y'all, y'all wasn't really beefing? Because now people are invested in, like, your personal life.

Well, they never admit to that. This is the thing. It's only bad if they get caught. If they don't get caught. You don't have to get caught. People tell everything now themselves. You don't have to investigate. Police don't have to do no work now.

Being a cop is the easy. Being a detective is the easy. shit in the world today. It's what I do all day. They just scrolled. Yeah, like, you think that they're not going to, people in Atlanta, not going to see them out together, like, somewhere and be like, yo, they're right here chilling. Like, these things ain't beefing. That'll be on the internet in five minutes. I suppose that would be. It's, it's too easy to figure it out. Like, that's why I said, let it be real. It's not, like I said, I don't think the meagles are ever going to get into a real beef and it's going to be like blood drawn and shit. I don't, that's not going to happen. But let it be a real,

like, yo, we really, business wise, things were, you know, we didn't have business. straight, personal relationships got in the way, let it be authentic. Because then people could be like, oh, damn. Like, all right, well, good to see that child were able to get past that, come back together and give another great project, which I think they're capable. This is the Migos, bro.

This is one of the biggest groups of their generation, like, if not the biggest group. I hope it's fake just for QC's sake, because they're going through some shit right now. They got a lot going out right now. Yeah. And I respect those two gentlemen very much, and I hope they're dealing with all this shit. in a good way, because obviously with a gun of shit and everything else.

But I don't know. I also particularly don't care. If it's real or fake, I don't care. If the music's good, I care. If the music's bad, I'll just move on. That's really all the shit is. But I think like any A-list group or act, even if you don't need it, your momentum does slow down. It's just inevitable no matter what artist you are, no matter what.

And I am not saying this in a bad way, just a realistic one. The amigos, they have slowed up a bit as far as the, just because they've been around and there's younger artists and that's just how the cycle goes. It's not anything to. Well, you know what their talent level, the music they're making or their fan base. But yeah, in this era, you have to do sometimes to keep shit moving. You have to do little shit like this, even if you are an A-lister. No, no, no. What you have to do is you have to rebrand yourself.

You can't be the young lit niggas in the club again. You can't be the niggas that's jewelry, jewelry, jewelry, jewelry again. You can't be the niggas that's Gucci, Gucci, Chanel, Chanel again. You can't be that. Rebrand yourself. Get into some real shit. Y' got families.

You got kids. Yeah. Get into some shit where it's like, okay, your fan bases are now, what, four, five, six years older? Mm-hmm. Let's get into some of that shit. And what happens when you get older? You fall out with family. That will go as far.

Here comes the rollout. That's good. But cool. Let it be real, though. Let it be real. Versace popped in 2013, 10 years older. You see what I'm saying? So it's like we can't keep...

We know y'all get money. We know y'all get fresh. We know we know that. We got that. That's what we love. These young niggas is... You know what I mean? They bad and bougie.

You know what I mean? These niggas is looking like young liberarchies. They owe diamonds everywhere. Like, we get it. Now what? You know what I'm saying? You got me to the store. I'm in here.

I'm walking around and brows like, okay, cool. But it's like, now how are you going to get me to keep coming back? beef with each other that's so stupid that is stupid hip hop

but what do I know it is hip hop unfortunately I feel like there's some other stuff on your list to Maris that we should that we should hit

congratulations to Nick yeah Canon Canon Nick Cannon another one Canon with me Nick Cannon said

because they was asking Nick Cannon he was on an episode of lip service okay and shout out out to lip service, the ladies over at lip service. And he was saying, you know, because I guess they brought up to, you know, having kids and multiple women.

Like, so naturally, you know, protection and condoms and things like that would come into play in the conversation. And I believe Nick Cannon said, I don't have sex with anyone I need protection from. Something like that. In other words, I don't wear a condom with a woman that I'm having sex with because. No condom canon. Yeah. Is that what you call that, girl? man. Yeah, no condom can.

Are they calling him out, or did you just make that up? I'm calling him that. NCC is what they call. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, you know me. You down with NCC? Everybody. Literally. Listen. I understand what he was saying.

No, no, no. I understand what he was saying. Oh, when Nick says it, you understand. No, no, no. I fucking tell you that. No, no, no, because I always ask the question. and I think I asked you do you wear condom for protection from STDs or pregnancy? Because it is called birth

it was originally birth control right? I remember. So I think Nick Cannon is still operating on that that IOS Yeah, he's operating on the birth control. She's on the patch? Yeah, he don't need, listen, we don't have to control

birth. Let it happen. Yes. Right? That's Nick's stands. Big Pro-Ly for that guy, Nick. Huge. The biggest pro life it is. But my thing is, Nick. He can get elected in Texas.

I just don't know if Nick Cannon is going to like wake up one day and realize that he has to have a relationship with so many women for the rest of his life in some capacity. For sure. You don't have to have an intimate relationship with them.

But it's like you have to deal with these women because they have your children. Yeah. And I just don't know if he is factoring that aspect in it. He has to be after like number five. I think it's deeper.

I think, you know, against prayers and condolences, he lost a child. Oh, yes, he did. So I think that in some way Nick is, because he had multiple kids before that, though. He had like six before it. Yeah, yeah. But now I feel like he made me somewhere else as a result of that now. And this may, we may start to see these numbers like triple maybe. And that's the part where I'm just like, yo, Nick, you might need somebody in your ear.

in your corner to be like, yo, bro, we get it. But you're talking about nine kids? As in like, you think he's going to be another one after this one? I mean, he's got to, at this point, you got to hit 10. Yeah, you got to hit 10 at this point.

Did you, did you get any sign of him slowing down from like any of the clips you saw or did you see the lip service episode? Like, he has no signs of slowing down. Like, he doesn't even have a goal, like a finish line. Like, I want 10 and I'm done. Like, if he says that, then it's like, okay, he's going for 10 and he out.

Well, at this point he has to do. You can't stop it. No, you can't stop him. Nobody ever stopped. You can't do this with Nick. You can't do nine of anything and not do 10. That's true. Nothing.

How long until 10, though? I might as well, is he going out this weekend? Might as well do hood twins. Irish twins. There's a rumored 10. So now we're at the room. Children are being rumored now for Nick. This is the way he's at now.

I mean, but that's normal. They're starting to throw women. If you go in rumor, I'm sure that it's at 20 for Nick. And it's just, you know, I think some of you guys said that also there's the ones he doesn't know. The money doesn't matter. And it's, you have. have all of these kids that are, a lot of them are within five, like, within eight, like, five them are within like a two years. You see what I'm saying? So these kids start getting older and

getting older and they have soccer games and basketball games. All over the country. They're not like all. Yeah. And they're all over the country. You're going to start dropping the ball here. Like you're not going to be. It's like if I have 10 jobs. I can't be the greatest I could be as if I had one job. I now have 10. I have to split up my different time. And kids are jobs. And on top of that, he has a job. He stayed booked and busy somewhere. That's what I'm saying. It's going to get to a point where, again, we're looking at this and, you know, people go live like, you're telling you, yo, Nick wilding out.

He's whaling out. He has kids everywhere. He has a, but it's like. He can create a whole show with his children. Yeah, but it's like we get into a point now, like you said, the kids, the children's mother, somebody is going to suffer and lack something somewhere. Oh, for sure. Because it's not like he's, sadly. He's not the dick swinger of the neighborhood.

that just, you know, drops the seed of just in that area. They can all kind of, like, be around. Right. And be clear, in certain cultures, it's, that's normal. As long as you can provide for each wife. I'll tell you that. Take care of your children. Like, you know.

So it's like, it's, so it's not like it's a, this isn't a, an abnormal thing that Nick is doing. But I feel like we know a lot of entertainers, athletes that have more than nine kids and we don't ever bring it. Like, why is it Nick? Yeah, why is it Nick? Just publicly talks about it. You know it's always about the latest and greatest.

It's also because Nick is having them back to back to back to back to back. Like to back. Listen, he's an ambitious person. I mean, if you just look at his career. And he's not slowing down. Before Nick dies, I see him having 20 kids. So what do we like? It's just like I said, I know it's still, you know, he's still grieving.

Obviously the loss of his child. So it's trauma. It's mental health. You know what I mean? Because like you said, you can't, you have all these babies and these children spread out across the country. And it's hard to, somebody's going to lack time. You're going to miss things. You're going to miss, you know, winning shots at basketball games or miss your child's first touchdown. You know, it's so many things that because somebody somewhere needs you here at all times. You know, this kid may need you. This kid may be sick. You know, God forbid. This kid. maybe graduating today while your other kid is having their first recital.

You know what I mean? So it's just, it's just, you know, it's not a, it's not a, I don't think it's a smart thing. And I'm not saying I'm smarter than Nick Cannon, please, but I'm just saying that he's probably smarter than. Yeah. Everybody's smarter to me. But it's just, you know, I just feel like the kids are going to lack somewhere. And even if you only had one kid and you have a busy schedule. Yeah.

Your kid is, you know what I mean? you're not going to be there for everything for your kid. But now when we're talking about nine, those chances are way greater to miss a lot of important things in these children's lives. I'm having trouble with Basley. Exactly. You know what I mean? Single father.

I hate when I hear it. All right. The thing is nobody's calling you a single father. So why do you say you hate when you hear it? You're the only person that says it. It's just a funny Drake Barty. I don't know why. I laugh every time.

I like that song too. Hey, Draymond Green. Check this out. You're just not going to use that opportunity to segue as a, former R. Kelly collaborator as Nick Cannon into sentencing. They're going to smoke R. Kelly boots.

They're going to send that thing up the river for 40 years. We are never going to. You better believe you could fly over them jail walls, niggie, because it's fucking over. It's fucking, they're going to roof R. Kelly. Trust me, when I, they let him get away. He got away the first time. They was like, oh, fam, listen, you tripping with these young girls.

Relax. He lay low for about three, four years, and went right back to recording shit. Had more women coming there, and it's like, now look at you. They asked for a minimum of 25 years, I think. That's just on the federal one, right? Yeah, and he got to go, I think,

the state charge in Chicago, I believe. Listen, man, lock it him out of the jail. They're going to give him 40 years, man. And, you know, it's fucked up. R. Kelly was, you know, one of the greatest songwriters, one of the greatest R&B voices, one of the greatest R&B artists, iconic legendary songs

anytime you write a song that they played every graduation across the country you know that every cookout you've done something great so it's unfortunate but you know he's a piece of shit man he was doing piece of shit

shit you know so he deserves he deserves to be sitting in jail there's no doubt about it yeah I'm curious to see what they give him on that no they're gonna smoke them

they're gonna smoke them good Like a 40-ounce porterhouse they're going to smoke him. He's going to have to PC up or he's going to get his boots smoked in there too. He's going to be a jiggle-for-real in there. Rory. Sexual assault, we don't make sexual assault jokes. We don't. But we will make jokes about-

Okay, but when someone sexually assaults people that much and goes to prison, we're now playing by prison rules. I'm not there, but I understand there not my rules. going to be in protective custody. Of course. Without a doubt, we don't even have to think about that. Somebody else that's in protective custody. Draymond Green.

Oh, God. And you owe the Celtics and apology while you're out of. I do. I had the Warriors in Five. Obviously, we're past that. Or it might be the Celtics in five. Who knows? Yeah, right.

Draman, I like Draymond. We talked about him. You know, well-spoken. He's going to be a great analyst after he's done playing. A good podcast. Eskimo, brother. Me? I don't know.

Definitely. Me? It's just perceived different on this podcast. Draymond Greed is a, he's averaging, I think, shit. Yeah. Right now. It's averaging some tweets. Yeah, and it's, you know, and I know Dremont is not supposed to be a big scorer.

He's not, that's not his game. His game is the little nuances of the game is what he's mastered, you know, defensively. But right now he can't stand in front of Jalen Brown. can't stand in front of Jason Tatum. He can't stand in front of nobody. Pretty much anybody he guards one-on-one is scoring. And I didn't see that happen in this series. I thought Jermon is the defensive anchor.

As long as he's healthy, he's going to do his job. But it's time for the Warriors to adjust. They've got to make an adjustment. They're getting killed on offensive rebounds. You know, they're not as athletic. I think they're relying too much in this. to say the Warriors are relying on their three-point shot because that's what they do. But they might be relying a little too much on their three-point shot.

And then you're not getting much help outside of the obvious Steph, Clay. No. Andrew Wiggins has played okay. Jordan Poole has struggled a little bit. So, yeah, man, this is, the Warriors are going to have to, the Celtics are obviously not going to lay down. And this is going to be a series of, you know, now. I think it's going seven at this point. This back and forth, I think it's going seven. I think, you know, obviously people would like to say, you know, the refs, the league.

Of course, they wanted to go seven ratings. We could talk about all of that. We understand that part of it. But I think more importantly, the matchups of Golden State is being outplayed. Yeah, and I don't know, man. I had the Warriors in five. You can say they look like shit. But they don't, it's not that they don't, they look like shit.

Because even in last night's game, right, they came back in the third quarter. They took a lead briefly. They were up by like three or four points, I think. They were down by 16 or 17 at one point, whatever it was. So they came back. They fought. They played hard. You know what I mean?

But one thing that's consistent is they are, they're not tall enough. They don't have the height, the length that Boston has. They don't have the athleticism. and Draymond, the guy that we just, well I thought was just obviously no brain on the defensive end has not looked very defensive. I can hear them yelling mismatch when he's... Yeah, or, yo, we got one or, you know,

all the disrespectful things at the park when he can't play no defense and it'd be a nigger that's sitting down with a hynicking, you know, that's easy. Fam, you ain't played, like, you start to look back like, yo, my man, check this out. But that's what it is right now. It's like any... Outfielers are in the infield.

Yeah, anytime Jalen Brown see... sees Draymond on him, I mean, there's no, he doesn't even care what play the coach called. Yeah. Once he sees Draymond in front of him, he let coach, I got action. I got fucking action and I'm going right at him. And I never, you know, this is something that we've never, we've never seen Draymond look this bad defensively. Never. And I think he'll figure it out. I know he's, he's very active on social media. So he's reading all the tweets. He's seeing everything people are saying. Which I'm not mad at. Be active on social media.

I don't give a fuck about that, but you got to play well. When it's time for the ice and you got to shut them up, you got to play well. And again, if they... Like, no one cared that Ron Artecest was drinking Hennessy at halftime. No, because he was bowling. Exactly. They knew he was locking up whoever he had the guard. And I think Draymond would figure it out, man.

I do, too. I hope he does. But, yeah, man, Boston is... They're not laying down. They're fighting. They're playing well. Jalen Brown is playing great. Jason Tatum is playing great.

and they're getting a lot of help from, you know, the other, there's a support cast, Marcus Smart, and Al Horford, White, all these other guys are coming in and they're, you know, they're playing great team basketball and there. They're great coaching staff. Boston is coached really, really well. And I think that's what it's going to come down to.

It's a chess game from here or not. I think it's going to be all about adjustments, substitution patterns, you know, can play a stay out of foul trouble. And it helps when you have Paul P. in a green eight ball jacket courtside the entire time. Yeah. It's intimidating.

You got Paul Pierce, you got Millies at every game. Word. I saw Kiss was with him. So, yeah, this is going to be a fun series, man. You know, and I got to apologize to Celtics Finn in Boston. I had the Warriors winning this easily in five,

and this looks like it's going to go seven games. I still have the Warriors winning it, but I think it's Warriors and seven. Anything we have to hit? No, ma'am. I'm sorry, sir I really didn't mean that it was just a master

Everyone just relax You guys are matching socks today by the way Yeah they're good socks But yeah we have a lot of stuff I have to go home to pack for a month We will have It should be an interesting pod month With the traveling that Moly and I are doing

And the experiences and different looks Different energy Different aesthetics A lot of different background Yeah different aesthetics, you know what I mean? But I think that this is... I think it'll be great for potting.

Not only great for potting. I think this is going to segue us and swing us into another dimension that, I mean, obviously we want to get into. But I think this is going to... We're going to look back at these three weeks and be like, that was the moment

that changed a lot. If I don't run over them all with my Dukati, you guys will get some great content. Or, Ed will catch that and that'll be great content. We'll get great content at that. I mean, we'll just show all the strawberries. all over your arm in your back.

The strawberries. Yeah, you know, skin your flesh. A little raspberry on my face. Flesh all over the fucking dirt road. But yeah, because... Jesus Christ.

That was dark. I mean, I mean, you, that's what happens when you play with motorcycles. That is true. You fall off that shit and your flesh is down

across the whole fucking Major Dean. What you want me to do? That is true. It is what it is. But yeah, we're going to have a lot of fun. We will be out of town, but we will be talking to you.

We'll be hearing from us. You will be seeing us. We have some fun interviews coming out. We have some fun interviews coming up. We have some really dope, you know, just different shit coming for you guys. So looking forward to it. So, yes, we do have to pack. We do have to get ready for this journey.

Yes. And, but yeah, either way, we'll be back. Enjoy y'all weekend. We'll see y'all in a couple days. We'll talk to you on a couple days. I'm that nigger. He's just ginger. Be safe.

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