New Rory & MAL - Episode 93 | "Nore Explains Lost Chappelle Episode"
Episode Date: August 16, 2022On this episode Rory & Mal acknowledge Nipsey's star on The Hollywood Walk of Fame, and then get into all of the new music released over the weekend. They give their honest opinions on The Game's ...latest album, and try to figure out when the trend of sampling will cease in hip-hop. They run down the Woodstock '99 documentary, as well as the Murder Inc episode, and have a phone conversation with NORE regarding the deleted Dave Chappelle episode and his relationship with Irv Gotti, + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Norie, just because we're such Chappelle fans and such Black Star fans, what happened with that tweet on Sunday, man?
Stop with the bullshit.
You can't bullshit me.
I love you to death.
You can bullshit them.
What's going on, man?
Yeah, but what's something to do that on your ass.
No
What?
Yeah.
This your life
You can play with it
You make your bed
You gonna lay in it
Gait, go get
Gets, go and
Just be safe with it
Triple Bucks in a
State prison
Blue Laces
In my blue chucks
I ain't never
Gagged two bucks
BET I chunked the hood up
Asking it that
Nick Niff hood
What?
Like I wouldn't take it
To the back with you
Same nigga
off his track with you
Same nigga
I got a strap with you.
Same nigga bought a sack with you.
Welcome to another episode of the new Rory M. Mall podcast.
I am all.
I'm Julian.
How are you doing, bro?
I'm good, man.
I can't complain.
How was your weekend?
It was calm.
It was very, very, very much calm.
Was it calm?
It was.
I think I'm going to go in the streets this coming weekend, though.
Okay.
Me and DeMaris, I think we agreed.
I'm tired of coming in here saying I haven't done anything over the weekend, even though it is the truth.
It's just, you know, I'm a fucking loser.
I need to get out there.
I mean, what's going on in the streets, though?
like honestly what do you feel like you missing i don't think i'm missing anything that's why i'm
content with not going out in the streets but i think you just at that age man but you just you know
it's like what am i really yeah dinner you know i went to dinner this weekend yeah that's going out yeah
that's grown going out you mean you get a little older even though you're what 32 32 yeah listen
you're at that age where you're just tapering off you can hit a little club now and every now
in well i think i'm gonna go to the old stage 48 i don't know what it's called now
stage 50 two years older
I don't know.
It's a stage you're in.
Yeah.
Wow.
I'm not, no.
Blime-Russia fifth.
I'm stage 40.
Stage 40.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm gonna go, man.
But it's people from my era when I went outside.
Like, we're all going to go outside and be like, hey, like, how's life?
Yeah.
Do you have kids?
Are you behind?
Little catch-up.
That type of shit.
Like, is your life falling apart too?
Yeah.
Like one of those.
And then, you know, take a shot and be like, yo, let's catch up.
And then we never catch up until the next year.
So, you know, but I'm going to bring to Maris and she.
can be around the old folk.
Yeah, Damaris has been begging me to go out and do something.
I just, I'm like, Demaris, I don't know what it is to do outside anymore.
But I feel like it'll be a lot of people from like, like, the frat sorority college era of my life,
which most of them went to finance.
So I think Demaris could back her like a guy that works at J.P. Morgan.
Like one of those guys that never really settled down.
Now he's like 40-something.
He's like, yeah, man, it's time.
Yeah.
Let me find a baby D.
They're running, they're out there running around, ready to take care of a little young,
unsuspecting chocolate woman.
Keep him young.
Oh man, you know the guys at JP are looking for a little taste of chocolate on the weekends.
Yeah, you know their pickup lines be like, hey, are you ovulating?
That's a sick.
First of all, any man, cola authorities, if any man asks you, are you ovulating straight out the gate?
Cola cops.
Well, what if you're about to have consensual sex with him and he wanted to know just in case?
Just in case what?
Like, he should be extra careful.
Is he not wearing a condom?
Insert Trojan ad here.
Yeah.
I tell men when I'm ovulating.
Yeah, I think you should tell.
You tell men that you're already dating, not just random new guys.
Oh, yeah, no, I don't know.
I'm going to say, no wonder you're single.
It's not working out.
See, I disagree.
I'm ovulating.
I'm calling an Uber.
At least the guy you're dating.
Imagine the girl would like, hey, I'm Demarison and I'm ovulating.
I'm like, hey, I'm all.
I'm all and my Uber's pulling up.
I'm getting the fuck out of here.
I don't give a fuck if you're ovulated.
What does that mean?
But I disagree with Demaris.
She should tell the, well, not her.
personally, but the woman should tell the guy that she just met if she's about to have sex with.
Because at least the dude you're dating, if a little slip-up happens, y'all have a rapport.
We can figure this shit out.
What's a slip-up?
Just the stranger at stage 48.
Let's get into the slip-up.
What's a slip-up?
When you slip it in and leave it there.
Yuck.
Raw, right?
First night just met her.
Boom.
Oh, you've done that before.
Absolutely.
Okay, thank God.
I was about to say.
Like, I know you're this fucking Mr. Safe guy.
Definitely went in Raw and a girl I just met first night and then prayed to God the whole.
whole week. Now she should have been responsible, even though you weren't, and said, hey,
Jamil, I'm ovulating. You should probably pull out like 10 seconds before you even start to
feel that tingly feeling. Yeah, I mean, luckily for me, I haven't never had that scare and that,
you know, that you know, not a pregnancy scare? Not from a first, like a hookup. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Hell no. Absolutely not. There was one time. I'll pull out a jerk off for 17 minutes before I come
inside somebody, yeah. Absolutely.
Jerking off of 17. She was looking at me like, just put it back in. I'm like, oh, no.
But that's not weirder than a woman saying, hey, I'm Demaris and I'm ovulating.
Because you're looking for a nice young man that you want to date and go to dinner with and just meet and have a good time.
I just wanted to have fun with the guy.
You still single?
Yes.
I'm going to ask you every week your updates because the guys be asking.
Like, every time I see a video of Demaris walking, yo, that's Baby Dee.
I'm like, damn, y'all niggas is horny like that behind the keyboards?
For sure.
Oh, okay.
That's the horriest place to be is, Bob.
What you get?
You're right.
First of foremost, rest of peace to the legend, happy birthday.
Yes, Snipsy hustle.
to Nipsey Hustle.
Happy 37th birthday.
Got his Hollywood Walk of Fame.
A star, Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame today.
So that was good to see that.
See some comments in the comments section about people not feeling like Nip deserved it.
If he was still alive, would he get it?
You know how people.
This is what the internet is for.
But people just express their views and opinions.
I'm happy that they honored him and gave his family this tribute.
Well, of course, I think Nip is very much deserving of it.
But let's call a spade a spade with certain things as well.
Yes, death does make us honor people quicker than we typically would.
I think Nip would have lived an even greater life had he continued on and would have gotten one eventually.
But yeah, death has us honor people in ways that we wouldn't have yet at that time.
So I don't, I think that's always a weird point, to be quite honest.
I mean, but that's what the internet is for.
The internet is a place where people that shouldn't have an opinion and shouldn't have a voice to voice their opinion can get their shit off.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you know, it was just interesting to see people go back and forth about it.
But either way, it's a huge tribute.
It's a huge honor for Nipsey and his family, especially on his birthday.
So continue prayers to the family and salute to Nipsey on an honor as big as getting a star on the walk of fame because that is not something that you should take lightly.
And not many people have a star in a star.
walk of fame. So congrats to Nipsey Hustle. Congrats to his family. Do we have anything like that in New York?
Walk of Fame? When you walk down 42nd Street and all the dudes that's selling their CDs know your name.
In the Bronx, where you have avenues named after people, like Big Pun Way on Fordham Road.
Yeah. Is that a walk of fame edit? I mean, I guess. That's honorable. They're doing more of that,
which I do like. Named streets after people. Yeah, and not just like just rappers. I've seen it with
like community organizers, coaches, teachers, and shit, that matter.
So I think that type of shit is cool.
Anytime.
I just feel like no one really calls it that, though.
No, no, no.
It's only one walk of fame, and that's in, on Hollywood.
Have you ever Googled, though?
Like, sometimes you'll see a random name on some, just some random block in, like,
Hell's Kitchen, and you Google that and, like, find out who they are?
No.
No.
I've never done that, Rory.
Oh, I have plenty of times.
You got to get out.
You got to get out the house.
No, that's what I'm doing.
I'm out of the house.
You see random names and then Googled.
I'm like, I wonder what this gentleman did that has name.
I would like to know that type of shit.
No, he was just a drug dealer who got his head blown off, Rory.
That's all he was.
What the fuck, Ma?
He said he sees their name on the wall, right?
Well, sometimes it goes down like...
You know what goes down to Hell's kitchen?
Hell?
Irish people getting their heads blown off.
Exactly.
But no, some of it, I know New York City
were the liberal, progressive, amazing city
that would never do anything wrong.
Some of that shit is like the statues in the South.
I've Googled some people.
And I'm like, uh...
It's not a friend of it.
It sounds like the guy that slaughtered the Native Americans
that once lived on Manhattan.
The Quakers.
The Quakers.
Put the oatmeal away.
Look at you.
Wait, that's funny.
They haven't canceled.
They got rid of Uncle Ben and Jamima,
but not the Quakers.
Because you know the Quaker did some bullshit.
Quakers is just a French way of saying Cracker.
I don't think the Quakers were French either.
I mean, he had a French hat on.
I don't know.
I don't think that was French either.
Can we get into music now?
All right.
We'll get into new music.
No, actually, no, we're not going to get your music.
Rest in peace to Teddy Ray.
Comedian Teddy Ray passed away over the weekend.
All right.
Rest of peace.
Double cheeked up on the Thursday.
Oh, that was him?
Yeah.
Yeah. Teddy Ray, man.
Really funny guy.
I was sad.
You know, it was sad to receive that news.
Like, damn, somebody that's funny as he was and his personality and everything, you know, to hear that he passed away.
It was sad.
So rest in peace, Teddy Ray, prayers and condoluses to his family and his fans.
For sure.
Yeah, man.
I'm just still trying to figure out how I can get Demaris kicked out of stage 48 for harassing men.
I want to be the first person to see what get kicked out of place.
I know, but we're going to be drunk and be falling all over the place and do something stupid like that to get kicked out.
Just howling that men, women don't.
You don't think DeMaris is capable of that?
No.
I don't think DeMaris will get drunk and get dragged out of somewhere.
No.
I don't think so.
Depends on who's in the party.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
I'm scared to ask her.
I don't even want to know what that means.
Drink Champs released an episode with Chappelle.
Sort of.
Well, about 40 minutes of it, 30 minutes of it?
Well, Nory tweeted on Sunday that we were finally going to get the Chappelle and Black Star drink champs.
Because I believe they recorded it, I don't know, maybe two months ago, three months ago.
And that it was held up.
But he also said there's two hours and seven minutes that they had to edit out to be respectful.
to, I guess, what they had edit out two hours? Yes. And Norrie put up a link and by the time I clicked the link, the video was private again. So I'm not even quite sure if it came out, but I did see a leak of 45 minutes, which I think someone just ripped off what Nori posted. So I don't know, I really don't think if anyone else knows if Norrie's addressed it.
That's a really... He put out a link that he said, this is the edit to be respectful to them, but y'all are going to get this. Hip Hop needs this. And then it was off right away.
Yeah, see, that's the first because Norrie doesn't, first of all, allow anybody.
to say what needs to be edited out,
what needs to stay.
I'm guessing that was in light of respect for Dave Chappelle.
Yes.
I'm pretty sure, you know, he was like,
you know, only Dave can do that.
But two hours of edited, like footage that's edited out.
Yeah, two hours and seven minutes was taken out,
he said, in the tweet.
And 45 minutes from what I saw was the result.
Norie, I love you, man,
but I would have just scrapped that whole shit.
I don't, I don't,
if you're going to tell me to edit out two hours,
hours and seven minutes or something and I only have 40 minutes of content.
Well, for my understanding, it was, it was going to be scrapped.
But they had said it was on hold.
I think as when Chappelle got smacked, they did like one of those PR things.
Like, we're going to wait in respect to him getting smacked.
Like, Chappelle got smacked?
Or not smacked.
Almost tried to get smacked.
Whoever ran on stage.
Oh.
Didn't he get touched at least?
No, he didn't get touched.
No.
They touched that guy.
Gosh, never mind.
They beat to shut him.
Yeah, they gave him a shape up.
So I don't really know
I would love to see Black Star
and Chappelle
I would love to see Just Black Star
I would love to see Just Chappelle
Yeah I would have just scrapped it
I'm not if I only have is 40 minutes
45 minutes of a three hour conversation
But what if it's a good 40 minutes?
Yeah but I'm cool I'm cool
But what I mean I can totally understand
Some segments needing to be at level
What for two hours and seven minutes
Need to be taken up?
What am I editing for two hours?
Like what am I?
What could they have possibly said
That was like now we gotta take
All two hours of that out of there
But what if it's a good 40 minutes?
I mean, I get it, man.
Like, we're talking about like a fire 40 minutes.
Yeah, but two hours gone?
Yeah.
Like, come on, bro.
Like, what could be that bad?
I would call Nory, but I don't know.
What's going to happen?
Dave's going to get canceled?
Would work well.
Dave Chappelle can't be canceled.
That's been proven.
We don't know if it was a Chappelle thing.
Maybe most in quality, there was something that they didn't want involved.
You know, most is a very private person.
The fact that he even did drink champs, I was like,
Most don't even, we don't even know what he, what he does.
Yassine, I'm sorry.
Well, Yassine, yes.
But we don't even, I'm just trying to figure out, we know two hours is gone.
So let's talk about what do we think they needed to take away from this episode
because they didn't want the public to hear or.
Yassine doesn't give up most for those that don't know.
He doesn't care about people wanting to cancel him if he says something.
Maybe it's not a cancel thing.
He doesn't even live in this fucking country.
He doesn't give a fuck.
I don't think any of them, quality included has been very probably vocal, more vocal
all of them about not caring about it can cancel.
That's why I don't think it's a cancel thing.
I just,
there's got to be something in there personally related,
not cancel related,
because you can't cancel the four of the agenda.
But somebody didn't say,
okay,
let's stop talking about that.
We got two hours of that.
I'm sure it was an array of things.
It could have just been one topic.
All right,
but we know that.
What the fuck can you talk about for two hours?
That was like,
we got to scrap all of that.
I bet you those 40 minutes will let us know exactly what it was.
I don't know, man.
It's just weird, bro.
Can you hear that?
I can hear that very quick.
It's just weird to edit out two hours of shit.
That's a lot of shit.
Look, if Norrie don't pick up.
There'll be another thing for me to ask me this morning.
Yo.
Yo?
You fake on air.
We're not really rolling, but we're rolling.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, you're having you back?
No, no, no.
I'm saying I want to ask you something on air if it was okay with you.
Nori, just because we're such Chappelle fans and such Black Star fans, what happened?
with that tweet on Sunday, man.
Stop with the bullshit.
You can't bullshit me.
I love you to death.
You can bullshit them.
What's going on, man?
Yeah, but I wish I was to do that.
I don't know.
Hung up on your ass.
You know what?
There was a miscommunication.
You know, I spoke to Dave this morning.
I spoke to him this afternoon.
So it was certain things that he wanted edited
and certain things I wanted to add on.
So he made a compromise this morning.
So I feel like we'll have the release date tomorrow.
I feel like we'll have the release date tomorrow.
Okay.
So, all right, so it is coming to each other's crews.
I'm sorry, what, what?
So it was 45 minutes that you posted and then put private.
And then you said it was two hours left.
What, how long of this interview are we getting?
And why couldn't we get the full one?
Well, that's really up to, you know, to tell you truth, you know,
I'm not going to be, but I'm going to be a wreck,
let me just tell you what it is.
We were really out there to do a black star interview.
And Dave came in and, you know, he actually turned,
it all the way up.
But at the time,
I think that his people were overthinking it
because of the things that happened
with the mass shooting.
I guess he didn't want to be seen like he's celebrating
as, you know,
you know, his people
were,
where,
got shot,
you know what I mean?
So he,
he,
that was his,
his character.
So we,
we,
we,
then it was just so much edit,
so much interest.
And honestly,
that was like the revolt edit right there.
The 45 minutes.
That was the revolt TV edit.
But I just,
I just wanted to,
I just wanted to, I just wanted to,
it for a couple days and you know uh then then it did the right thing because dave's camp uh probably
reached back out and then dave reached out personally so we got to talk and we got to and sometimes
that's really what it is it's like you know the artist got to speak to the artist too sometimes you
know what i know how it is to have management and have your publicist and you know what i mean
have the retail guy and then the friend of promoter but sometimes it's just artist to artist because
save a whole month doing that it's able to save two months and i'm going to say too much and i'm a
tell you something, I'm a scary guy.
Like, if you're a real, real legend
and you're a real, real, real icon,
I don't be wanting your number.
Like, people have to force me to give you a number.
I remember when I first got a little Wayne number,
he had to literally grab my phone and put it in
and put his number in because I don't be wanting them
to tell me no.
I don't want me to hit them,
and they not hit me back, and they not take it personal.
So I'd rather not have the number some of the times,
and I'd rather do what they can.
But from this experience,
I realize our artist,
artists in certain situations is better.
Okay, so it will be
out by tomorrow and it will be
the somewhat full episode.
It would be somewhat full episode
because I asked Dave
for all the stuff that I want to pause
to put back in the episode
and he kind of agreed with me because he kind of didn't
know that all the edits that was
taking place.
But, you know, that's his camp.
His camp is in the Dave Chappelle
Chappelle business and they have to look out
for him.
And, um, but you know, but like I said, it's really mainly a black star episode with Dave making a whole bunch of great appearances.
And it was like he, it was like he personally did stand-up on.
So, you know, when they're being sensitive with certain materials, you know, I don't live in day Chappelle world.
So I have to respect that and I have to, you know, salute that because after this episode comes out, guess what?
I got to go right back into Norris world.
They got to go back to the Dave Chappelle world.
And black star world.
So, you know, I, I in return, never read nothing.
nothing and nobody and I just sometimes take the beep and I say so what this is what drink
champs is we don't edit but in this case it was very special uh college case was very special
and I I adjusted this show just a tiny bit not too much but just a tiny bit because I understand
if these guys are major public figures and you know sometimes things get a little great I get it
how um how do you feel about the post-erv episode uh commentary from the internet oh I love oh I love our
be clear. Let's just be clear.
I bet you do.
Let's just be clear.
People don't want him nowhere near around me anymore.
But let's just be clear.
Like, Irv is a non-filtered person.
Sure.
And that just works, that works for drink champs all day.
You know, we really want people to come in in the raw.
You want people to come in and get drunk.
We want people to play the game.
We want people to smoke.
We want you to relax.
But we also want you to take.
down your guard. We want your guard to be down. We don't want, and it's easy for me to, to, to, to get
them to take their guard down because they, they recognize me from the locker room. You know what I'm saying?
They recognize me for the championship game. You know what I mean? They recognize me for them platinum plaques.
They recognize me for them hits. They know that I've been through what they've been through.
But Irv is the golden goose. Something, something that I'm very proud of is I got, I think two
Irv got the interviews, maybe three, and then I got three Daru interviews. One of the best thing I've
ever did was conduct the whole interview
without them talking about their enemies.
Like they're real enemies.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, like, I was very careful
because let me just be clear.
Let me just say the name.
I have a relationship with 50 cents.
So by me having herb,
I always be very, very careful
and I always make sure I don't ever bring up
anything regarding a G unit or 50 cent
because I don't want that mess.
To me, that's not the mess.
That's not what I all want to be a part of.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Now, now, now, now,
when people see the real interview,
you do see Jaru stopping
Erb, when you keep calling the SOTC,
the B word.
Absolutely.
When most people see it, they're seeing the clips,
and they're seeing that it didn't look like Jaru
was holding it down.
But if anybody really watched the actual interview,
Jaru did stop Irv.
And then Irv came back,
this was crazy.
I know you didn't ask this question,
but Irv came back and gave a 10 minutes
solilo about how much he was so,
offended that he kept using the word bitch.
So that actually exists.
To answer your question in this totality,
Irv is my golden goose.
I know how to crack them.
I know what shots to give him.
I know exactly what we need to give him.
But what's the crazy thing is,
and this is what's crazy,
I don't even think I crack herb.
I just think that he's just there ready.
You know what I'm saying?
I just think he's there ready.
He's comfortable.
He's comfortable.
Norie, he answered questions you didn't ask.
Yeah.
After the third shot, I didn't even interview no more.
Exactly.
It was his interview.
And I just maintained.
But, you know, in all honesty, I think it's a lot more jokes and laughs.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Than it is seriousness.
I know Irv hasn't picked the fault for me the last couple of three times I called.
It's not really that serious.
Right.
It's not just your fault.
I mean, this is definitely not my fault.
I didn't get him to say none of that.
Right.
But no one.
But knowing, you still have some messy left rack in you.
Did you reach out to Ashanti?
I've been trying to reach out.
Go on, Jaro was one of my friends.
I've been trying to.
And then, of course, we want Ashanti.
I mean, not to have a rebuttal episode.
For sure.
But we want Ashanti period.
She's a legend.
Our platform is built on giving flowers to legend.
No, Ashanti should be on that regardless, but it would just be funny for the response.
The funniest part is, I know Irv.
third track.
You're looking at Ashanti
pitches on the ground.
Of course.
Wayne denied that.
I just knew it was
of course, man.
You can't,
you can't not look at
Ashanti.
That's impossible.
I don't trust
anyone that doesn't look
at Ashanti's
right.
Come on,
man.
But Noah,
we're going to get down
there soon.
We have to do
our proper sit down.
Let us give you
all your flowers,
man.
You know what I?
I love,
I love how you
maintain.
I love how you stay positive.
That could have went
to a negative route
and did that
that you guys
maintained
positive,
positiveness.
Guys out there working and, you know,
if you meet me on the show,
well, I guess I'm on here now.
Thank you y'all for having me.
And yeah, man, so I'm here.
Love, no.
You know, when you're done.
All right, then, y'all.
Peace.
Peace.
Something else happened that was interesting.
I seen Doja Cat had tweeted at all you heathens.
She was mad because you guys are attacking her
because she shaved her head.
She shaved her eyebrows and she's going through this whole thing
where she's just like, yo, listen, I just want to be comfortable.
I hate the hair.
Listen, you do what you want.
You guys, you know, she said, and we have the tweet, I guess I think I have the tweet here.
You have it in your favorites?
Absolutely.
You was really feeling the Doja tweet?
Well, I just thought it was interesting because I think a lot of females can, you know, they can relate to what she was.
Well, listen, as someone that has watched women in the upkeep of their hair, I will say, the life of just getting out of bed and continuing with your day, it's beautiful.
I love this side.
I could never imagine making part of my day.
week, month, year, just dedicated to my hair to that time.
Yeah.
I like rolling out of bed.
She says, I won a Grammy and traveled the fucking globe.
I've had a number one and I went platinum.
I make hit after hit after hit after hit.
And all you want me to look, all and all you want me to do is look fuckable for you
so that you can go home and jerk your, she's talking to Rory.
So you can go home and jerk your cocks all day long while you live in your mother's basement.
Go fuck yourselves.
You think this is directed?
This is a southern me?
She's definitely talking to you, Rory.
Well, I've never jerked my cock to Doja before.
Oh, you got to try some time.
But I think she still looks, not that my opinion matters, I think she still looks fuckable
with a shaved head.
Doja is a pretty woman.
She's pretty.
I mean, shaved head, she's still a pretty girl.
I mean, I just, you know, fuck it.
Do what the fuck you want.
When you have a number one and you go platinum, I think you're at that level where
you can do what the fuck you want to do.
It is what it is.
See, Britney Spears did all of this.
And y'all thought she was going crazy and all of this.
She said, Brittany just didn't want to deal with her hair.
Brittany was going crazy.
She wasn't going crazy.
But you realize this is part of, as much as we say, like, look at Doja talking to all the haters or whatever the fuck they say.
Yeah.
This has become part of her identity is not giving a fuck.
Yeah, but not giving a fuck to the people.
I said wild and quirky.
Oh, I thought I said wild and horny.
I'm about to say, Jesus, how do you know Doja's horny?
Okay.
No, we're the ones that are horny because we want to jerk our cocks old in our mother's basement.
I've never thought about jerking my cock to.
Doja. I think she makes dope records, but I never was like, you know what? I'm going to turn on some
Netflix and then jerk my cock to Doja. Never thought about it. The same way the barbs art and
Nikki, Doja replying to hate on the internet is part of her identity and part of her artistry.
Like people love her for this. This is not like, look at her standing up for us. No, this is just part. This is just part of her. She doesn't care.
Look at her profile picture. She wants to do what the fuck she wants to do. And I'm sure this was said in the
joking tone so I don't really care but either way she's killing the fucking charts I know that
I'm just not sure like what getting a Grammy and traveling the globe how that connects to jerking
my cop these are two separate things though I don't know if Doja really thought this one through
because there's women that have never won a Grammy haven't even won a most improved award
in middle school that you know they're not connected well I think men men will fuck
Bums and jerk off to Bums.
You giving me your resume doesn't really make me go crazy in my mother's basement.
I think what she's more so saying is pay attention to my art, my music.
Like I don't care what I look like.
Like I'm out here putting up fucking numbers, putting out hit records, dance to it, drive
to it, travel to my music, whatever.
But like, I don't care about.
Well, jerk off to it if you want to.
But, you know, she's like, listen, this is what the fuck I want to do.
I've always wanted to shave my head.
And so I did it.
It is what it is.
I respect it.
That's a.
that's a sense of freedom right there.
I agree.
That's what freedom and not caring and, you know, living on your own rules and not trying to conform to what the beauty standards that the industry kind of puts in play for female artists that they have to look this way.
They have to be shaped this way.
They have to say this.
They have to do that.
Like, those is just like, listen, pay attention to the art.
As long as the music is great, who gives a fuck what I look like?
I don't know.
Maybe I'm a realist.
I agree with you and her.
but if you are a pop star, which Doja Cat is,
I'm just explaining the world,
I'm not agreeing with it.
A lot of her music isn't for a lot of people,
but she's still a pop star.
So the appeal of why people would care and focus on
maybe because they want to fuck you.
I think there's plenty of men that didn't love Madonna's records,
but they sat and looked at Madonna
because they wanted to jerk their cocks all day long
in their mother's basement.
So I'm not saying that,
I'm not saying it's right.
And of course it's a double standard and all that bullshit.
But yes, part of being extremely fucking popular and being a pop star,
sure, I'm not saying what the standard of beauty is, but...
Exactly.
So if you make certain type of music that is skewed for the pop women, gay men,
and just men that appreciate music,
there is a huge fan base over here that's just fucking men that want to look at you
and just be disgusting, ugh, men.
but that's still part of the market
I know it's fucked up to here
But some men like the shaved look though
Something like that
I think she looks great
Yeah some men like the shaved look
But I'm just saying when you're saying
Oh just like just focus on the art
Like that's not how
This works unfortunately
I'm saying that's what she's saying
I mean she doesn't give a fuck
And I and I listen I'm for it
Who gives a fuck with if I shave my head?
She can put a wig on tomorrow
Like who gives a wig?
She wears a hair
Pop stars would never wear wicks
Well yeah
So yeah
Listen, I feel doja cat on this one.
And who's jerking off in basements?
Like, you can hear everything above you while you jerking off.
You got to focus.
You're up your bedrooms in the basement then.
Yeah, but is people walking around upstairs in the kitchen?
You put on headphones on.
Put on headphones on.
You jerk off with headphones on?
That's not the point.
That was a yes, by the way.
Definitely a yes.
And look at them.
He has them on now.
Now I'm really creepy on those same headphones?
No, I mean.
Okay.
Kind of.
So we got some new music over the weekend.
A lot of new music, actually.
I think I read something that's projected that Rod Wave will have the number one album.
Is that right, Julian?
So far?
Yes.
Julian says yes.
I like that name, first and foremost.
I think that name is super dope.
Rod Wave.
I think he can do a lot with that name, with that brand.
I'm not really a big fan of Rod Wave.
I don't listen to a lot of his music.
I've listened to obviously some of the biggest songs and shit like that.
But I did listen to this album.
Like, what do you like about the name?
Are you more on like the rod side or the wave side?
Like, what's your...
No, I just think it's if somebody be like, yo, that's my man.
That's Rod Wave.
It's kind of like, okay.
You would expect like a cool nigga to walk through the room.
Like, my man, Rod Wave is about to come through.
Okay, but we usually shorten names, especially when it's two names.
Yeah.
Is it is it waiving, no pun intended, when Rod comes in the building?
Yuck.
Nah.
So I'm just asking what for a lot.
Oh, gosh.
That wasn't, nah.
We're not going to call him that.
We're not going to call him wavy.
No.
But I like Rod Wave.
I like that name.
I did download the album.
I did listen to it.
I'm trying to get into the artist that I don't really listen to a lot.
but I don't know it's something about Rob Wave that I just haven't connected to yet
He's projected at 120 and 140
Yeah
Oh that's fired around 20 and 40
I didn't listen that was that those are huge numbers
Um
But yeah I downloaded the project and I was trying to get into it over the weekend
Uh the thing I did see
Was I think he did an interview I'm not quite sure who it was with I'm sorry
But he said he took his verse off the lemon pepper freestyle with drink
Yeah
Because he ain't want to get washed
and I respect that.
Oh, I really respect that.
You got to respect that.
Like, yeah, I'm cool.
Appreciate this opportunity.
Yeah, but I know what Drake ready.
Yeah, I'm not ready for that feature yet.
Let me just, you know, and that takes a sense of knowing where you are as an artist.
And also like, yo, listen, you know what?
I don't want to, I know this platform standing next to Drake.
I know how many people are going to hear me.
And if I feel like what I wrote and where I'm at, like my creativity right now is not up to par,
I'm not going to let these millions of people here.
me like this. I'm not doing that.
Yeah. Whereas I don't think Jack should have
taken his verse off, but I'm glad
he went back in and added some more bars and then
said, hey, we may need the Kentucky Derby
as a video to distract them
from this washing that's taking place.
If I'm going to get washed, it's going to be
at the Kentucky Derby. Yes, in a suit. I get it.
That was a good move. That was a great pivot.
So yeah, as much as I don't know too much about
Rod Wave, I did see that and I did appreciate
the self-awareness of not being ready
for certain records and like, I'm not just going to take this
opportunity to take it and it fucking fail.
Either way,
Rob Wave, congrats.
Those numbers are huge.
Who's on the project?
Jack is on there?
Jack Hollow's on there.
Not a lot of features.
120 to 140 with very minimal features.
Shout out, yo, congrats.
That's not easy to do.
Hell no.
That's not.
So, yes, I made sure, because I've seen a lot of people talking about him.
And like I said, I've heard the biggest songs, the biggest singles, but I've never really
got into a full project for Riveave.
So I'm trying to get into new artists and see what their whole thing is about.
So Rod Wave, I downloaded the project.
Beautiful Mine available now in your DSPs.
And he is projected to have the number one album this week.
So congratulations to him and his team.
I'm sure you didn't get a chance to listen to it because you had your streaming farm duties as a barb over the weekend where you were buying new phones over at AT&T and just setting them up around the house.
And playing a Nikki record?
Oh, you didn't know?
You didn't see the numbers that came out for the song?
I did see.
I think it was whatever streaming stat they always add when a big artist put something out.
The most stream for a female in August.
They always make it.
They always make it that.
It's always a LeBron's stat.
The most streams ever on a full moon by any artist to ever come out in the winter solstice.
You know, shit like that.
But yeah, I heard the Super Freak record, Nikki.
It's not for us.
I don't think it's for guys to be banging.
I wouldn't, you wouldn't come up to the crib and hear me banging super freak.
But DeMaris couldn't stop twerking all day.
Shocker.
To the Super Freak record.
I can lick it, I can ride it while I'm slipping and sliding.
Why do every girl think they got the slippy slottie?
They don't.
They don't.
It's a confidence thing.
You should always feel.
I'm not going to hop on a track and say, yeah, I got that average push to you.
Like, who's doing that?
I would love that.
I would love to you.
I respect that.
I'm like, yo, here's a woman who knows herself.
Here's an artist that knows us to see, Rod took himself off the track.
He's like, yo, I'm not even doing that.
We respect it.
you know what?
Let me go listen to this.
Here's a kid that knows itself.
If a girl came on a female emcee was like,
yo, listen, my box is all right.
I'm gonna be like, yo, I'm fucking with her.
Some days, I like this.
I like her.
Some days my box isn't really hit like that.
Yeah, like, you know, my box is cool.
You know what I mean?
I mean, it gets wet, but you might have to, you know,
eat it a little bit.
You know what I'm starting up, warm it up a little bit.
I respect that.
But women now, they come up.
Oh, I got that gushy, gusy wet.
No, you don't.
My man hit that.
He's he said, nothing like you.
that. He did not say it was gushy,
gushy, gushy. He didn't say that.
He didn't even call you. He did not get on a podcast 20 years later with an engraved
watch and say how crazy that shit was.
Yeah. Yeah. He didn't do it. Like Ashanti is the only one with the gushy gushy so far.
That's just be real.
In her words, it's that good, good, but whatever.
That's what she said that?
It was a callback to one of her songs.
Oh, I thought she came out and said that about so she's gangster.
If that's all she said in response to that, like, yeah, you know, I got that good.
good. But like I'm going to download
every Shanti song right now.
And I don't want to shit on women because I already know what time it is
with me, but women
swear they're super freaks. And then he'd be like,
oh, we can fuck in the car. I'm like, whoa.
Crazy girl over here.
Maxi. You're living life on the edge. That's
when they think they're like some crazy freak and then
you find out they're not. But yeah,
I guess this Rick James song
featuring Nikki Minaj, um,
again, it's not for me. I see
the barbs love it. That's all that matters. I'm
interested in the album. I'm not interested.
Yeah, I want to hear the project.
I don't...
I know how this goes.
We have to do this type of single.
Yeah.
So I'm cool.
It's not for me.
I'm not going to let you keep getting...
Let Nikki get away with that shit.
You got to do this type of single.
She has to do this type...
No, she doesn't think she does.
But I get the climate...
But I know...
I see why she did it.
Of course.
You got an album coming.
Like, this song is big.
It's streaming everywhere right now.
Breaking numbers, obviously.
Like, I get it.
Yeah.
Give them that.
You got to give them that popy, pop rap shit.
All right.
Demaris, I'll give that to you.
because it's working so well
who the fuck am I to say
that she's above this
but I do think
Nikki's artistry
especially at this age
is well above the song
And this is not
but I think Nikki is way better
than this record
but who the fuck am I to say that
when it's a single
it's a single
streaming crazy
It's not like the whole album sounds
and now we don't know
but I'm pretty sure
the whole album is not going to sound like this
Oh yeah I didn't shoot
Drake that same bell
when Stained Alive came out
and y'all critique that
When I said that the song stinks
Yes.
We're staying alive.
That's the Calid team.
You already forgot.
Yeah, but that's a song, no, that's just not a good.
No, it first was a different BPM first of all.
Yeah.
Like, all together.
It just changes the whole energy of the record.
Don't like it.
I don't.
Like, it is what it is.
Love Drake, love little baby.
Wait, but what's your point of staying alive versus this?
You're saying, oh, it's a single.
It doesn't matter.
So, you know, it's just a single.
You got to do that.
Oh, okay.
We're not saying we love.
Did we say we love this record?
Nobody said that.
We understand.
you don't like Nikki.
We get that.
We know, that's no, don't put that on me.
I'm a bar.
Don't put that on me.
No, you're not a bar.
Yes, I am.
Don't put that on me.
He has all the membership fees.
I'm the vice president of the Barbies.
Like, you're not a bar.
We don't have your paperwork anywhere in here.
Little Knows, ex the president.
She's not even in here.
No paperwork is nowhere in here.
It's some Michael K. Williams book.
Oh, my bad.
Which is available now.
Well, I think it's available now.
Please check this out.
Michael K.
Rest in peace from my life.
Rest in peace.
His memoir that he wrote before his death.
With John Sternfeld.
Look at Mike on the back.
I know.
You know, Mike used to be in the clubs going.
You know, he sweated that silk shirt out.
And 10 minutes dancing, shaking his ass all night.
A couple things on that, man.
Sure.
All right.
But see, Tamara, to your point, weird transition, I'm sorry.
It's okay.
Well, Mike was a super freak.
This is working.
This is where your argument goes away.
Super freaky girl is working.
It broke every Spotify record ever or something.
And it's not for me.
I'm not banging this.
I'm a barb.
Do we think staying alive is working?
I don't know.
No.
So I can critique that.
I'd be like, hey, you probably could have won a different route.
Hindsight's 2020.
This, I would say, as a Nicki fan, I think she's better than this record.
I think she's better than the obvious sample and the freaky girl lyrics.
But it's working, so let me shut the fuck up.
This is playing the game.
This is going to do well on TikTok.
And, you know, it's a different.
This is amazing on TikTok.
Of course it is.
This is what this is for.
Like, I know what this is about.
I want to hear the album, know them album.
album cuts when Nikki talking her shit and you know that's the shit I want it that's for me that's
what I'm talking to niggas like me why um this is for y'all get on your ticot and do your
snapchat shit and all that other shit old nicky is she was talking to you old nicky is that the
name of a record see you're not even a bar you're not even no bar oh my it's cool bro you're not a
bar the record old nicky listen you you're not a reloaded fan um what are you crazy
come on my a nicky fan pull up in see that's tic talk all right sorry anyway
why do you guys think she didn't do a video with this
Do we know if she did a video?
She didn't.
She might have one coming.
No, no, I think there's one coming.
I'm saying, but typically, Nikki, especially with singles.
She definitely has a video for it.
A single that would be super free.
I get that, but it didn't come out with a single.
And usually that's a driving force.
I hate saying that word, but for female rappers.
It's very industry.
He loves driving force.
The blazing hip-hop and R&B.
You love it.
But yeah, with women rappers, they usually do the video with a single,
especially if it's a freaky girl record.
Nikki's definitely going to have a video for this.
I agree.
I'm asking why do you guys think she didn't do it when it came out?
Oh, I mean, I don't know.
Because it usually comes the day it comes up.
Yeah, I don't know.
That I can't speak to.
Yeah, but she definitely has a video coming for that.
Record is doing too well to not have a video for it.
Do you think she's going to do verse swaps with Takashi?
That's kind of weird that you just threw his name out there like that.
Yeah.
Are you wearing no.
Okay.
I'm not wearing Takashi.
Oh, I thought you were saying a cologne.
No, wire.
That's my like.
Not a cologne, a wire.
I just want to know if she would do with verse swaps for the album.
Do you guys, do you guys have any idea how to make, like, I feel like music has a really short shelf life these days.
Singles, everything gets forgetting, it gets forgotten so fast.
Like, we forget about shit so fast after it comes out.
Climbing.
Exactly.
So do you guys have any ideas how artists could extend that or like what's next in trying?
Stop chasing trends.
Like, I think artists need to stop chasing trends.
an artist that had one of the probably, if not my favorite rap album of the year so far,
Vince Staples, he didn't chase no trends.
He's not looking for TikTok.
He's not looking for hashtags and all that other shit.
He's just putting out good music, good bars, good verses, good production.
But that can only take you so.
That takes you to your core.
Yeah, but sometimes that's all you need to.
Sometimes I agree.
Focus on who's here.
I agree.
But some artists aren't comfortable.
I mean, everybody a father.
Niggers are falling line and follow suit.
and catch up later, but like don't chase, because now when you chase a trend and then you look back
four years, you'd be like, yo, I didn't even want to do that shit. Of course not, but some artists
within their deals and what they owe back to their label can't just go after their core.
They got bills to pay.
Yeah, no, I get it. Or they're going to get sued. So yeah, all right, let's do the TikTok dance.
I get it. Because not everyone has a Nicki Minaj core. And she's still playing the game.
Well, Nikki built her core. Oh, I mean, of course. You know that she, you know that what I'm saying. Look at
her core, no matter what, when Nikki puts something out, the barbs are showing up regardless.
And she's still, to some degree, as we're saying, with this record, is playing the game.
And understandably so.
She's that big of a star.
I don't say that.
I know people take that in a bad way.
I'm not saying in a bad way.
No, she's, Drake plays the game.
She's, Nikki is a, is a superstar.
So she has to, it's a certain level that she has to hit every time.
But even Nikki, I think that she still focuses on her core audience, though.
Like, let me hit the core.
and then sprinkling, you know, the other shit,
the other shit that'll go viral,
the TikTok shit, the TikTok records and all of that.
I don't, well, Nikki's core is going to love everything Nikki does regardless.
And I feel like Nikki was making TikTok records before TikTok.
Sure, definitely.
Like, you know what I mean?
So this is not, this is not too far away from who Nikki is.
Oh, no, I don't think this is too far.
Yeah, no, this is, this is Nikki.
But I just know that when the album comes,
she's going to have those album cuts on there that are for guys like me.
Like, okay, I fuck, she getting over.
if she's spitting her shit on it.
Like, that's all I'm looking forward to.
This is cool.
I understand what this is for, but I'm waiting for the album.
All right.
Let's get to your man's.
Who else came out with the game?
I'm sitting at the edge of my seat waiting for...
The game.
So we talked about the game album.
It came out, 31 tracks when we got the track list.
It came out.
I downloaded it and then it disappeared because I think they took a track off.
No, all right.
Before we get into the review, I didn't want to bring that up,
but since you brought it up first,
was this the doings of WAC 100?
Explain.
So over the weekend, I went to the game album.
And typically when you go to albums, let's just use Apple Music for an example.
You go to albums and it has everything there.
There was two game albums, both with the little E thing,
which means it's not the edited version.
Explicit.
When you clicked one of them, it was just the record with Blueface.
I would click the whole album.
This is the whole weekend.
It wasn't just my phone.
It was other people's as well.
You would click Drillmatic, the first one,
and it would be game featuring a Blueface 38 special.
Then the one next to it, which was also explicit,
was the full album.
But the first one was just the album with just Blueface and Game.
Now, if you go to the common denominator
between Game and Blueface.
Chrison.
Sean.
Who's Chrison?
Oh,
see,
he ain't gang gang.
You ain't,
you ain't,
you ain't,
you ain't,
no,
I'm not.
I'm not gang,
I am not gang gang gang.
Is that,
is that something to do
with the Crips?
No,
that's a blue face
his girlfriend.
Oh,
the one that,
like,
beats up his mom and shit.
I shouldn't laugh
when I say that.
I just saw the headline.
I was like,
Jesus Christ.
That was weird.
You laughed at that.
You need help.
I thought it was a...
Do you and your mom
have something to talk about?
No.
You think it's funny
You beating up moms?
No, and I would never let a woman beat my mother up.
Okay.
You would beat her ass?
Well, I think it's a fair fight.
Yeah, say it.
Because Blueface's mom is, from the picture,
looked like she's still in shape.
Like, was it a fair fight?
I don't even know if did they fight?
Yes.
Like more than one.
I felt like a couple rounds.
It was just the blue face and game record, and I thought,
what is the common denominator?
And you thought Wack has something to do.
Wack 100.
Went to DSPs and said,
all right, we're going to run up the streams on this blueface and game record.
It's going to be its own house.
album. Yeah, like I downloaded it and then I went to listen to it and it said this album,
this is not available in your, I was like, what? They clearly had some type of issues and I'm
not saying WAC did that purposely, but if he did, hats off to him because that's fucking
hilarious. I thought maybe a sample or something didn't get cleared or something, something happened.
Well, I do know that Black Sam had gotten, this is allegedly, it's the internet, so I don't
know if it's true. Black Sam had gotten Nipsies either record or verse taken off the album once
it came out. So that could have something to do it. Absolutely. Absolutely.
I know it disappeared and then I had to like download it again and it was 30 tracks.
Yeah.
Why do you get it taken off?
Anybody know?
We just said it.
Are you listening to Maris?
You're fired.
Get out.
You want to know my guess?
Would be Wack on Clubhouse talking about those allegations of Nipsey that I won't even bring up.
Oh, yeah.
Wack has had some things to say about Nipsey for the past few months so I can see Black Sam saying,
yeah, that your clients are not getting a verse.
Sorry.
It's like that's a pretty easy.
It sounds like politics for sure.
And I don't know if that is the case, but that's the obvious one to go to.
So to the music.
Yes.
31 tracks.
Listen, don't really like the album.
And I was really looking forward to it.
But going into it, 31 tracks, I knew.
It's just too much fucking music to listen to, too much to pick through.
It's a couple tracks that are good.
I think if you take those couple tracks.
and make it one album, got a better project.
31 tracks, I mean, I like the joint with Ruby Rose.
I like the...
Well, she's not on it.
No, the name of the song is Ruby.
It's just titled.
It's not with her.
I said, I said, with Ruby Rose.
No.
But I like her music.
You like Ruby Rose's music?
Yeah.
I love her voice.
She has a really good voice.
Yeah, it's a couple of tracks on here that are good,
but for the most part, it's something that I don't care to go back to.
Why do you think it's trash?
I think it's too much music and not enough of it is good.
Out of 30 tracks, I mean, to have a good project with 30 tracks,
I would have to be really good.
And how many would you say are actually good, in your opinion?
I think if you make this a 12 to 14 track album,
you get a really good album.
That sounds like a big half.
But I think if you knock it down to 20, 18,
you get a cool album.
I don't know how to judge an album of this amount.
But this is what happens when you have this many tracks.
It's like by the time I get to track 26,
I didn't forgot about track number 12.
I don't even remember what song it was.
So it's like, and that's the gift and the curse.
So it's dope that you were able to put together this many records
and get this many features.
And, you know, the production is pretty good for the most part on the album.
but the songs and it's just not.
You know what?
It's funny you mentioned that.
This is probably one of the first extremely long albums that I remembered exactly which
records I liked and which ones I want to go back to.
I don't know if that was because of the features were so recognizable.
But like I can look through this track list just listening to it two or three times
and no one time, easy, voodoo, outside.
I like to join with Jared.
How far I came, Harvard's mine.
No smoke in the polo now, just fire.
No man falls
Save the best for last
That's what Ross right
Yes
Like that joint
I like the last time
With Chris Brown
I will say though
We have to stop putting
Incomplete Kanye West
Versus on all these albums
You can tell they're incomplete
You could tell you went in there
And did not finish it
It's just shit on a hard drive
Nah that's just
That's just getting this shit off
And that was it
No he did
He started to get his shit off
And then he went to the bathroom
And it never came back
He had to go put on his rubble boots
Dreezy
cleaned up Kanye and game.
Love Juriji. Yeah, she's five. But
I think there's joints on here.
It's a couple joints on here. But it's just
30 tracks. There's only a couple
joints out of 30. That's not a good project.
You can tell the ones that Kanye was involved
with as far as production. You can tell the ones hit boy
was involved with production. And then the ones
that weren't... Hit boy only did what, five joints on here?
And I like those five.
It's like I thought this was going to be like a
hit boy, hit boy in game project with the whole joint.
No.
Hit Boy, Yeezy.
I was what to call him, Wayne for some reason.
Kanye?
Yeah, I was going to call him Collier.
Yeezy, hit boy, and there were a couple others, too.
Like, it was never just a hit boy profit.
See, I thought that this was going to be heavy hit boy produced project.
I didn't think he did every joint, but I thought he was going to have more than five songs on here.
I think he just, they kind of led with that, like, for promo reasons, because everybody is looking for hit boy collaborations right now.
So I think he wanted you to think that.
Yeah, but come on, man.
Like, I just, that's what I'm saying.
If him and hit boy lock in foot, they do 10 joints together.
What is it, what is our obsession with obvious samples in the past five years?
I think, I think people just like samples because they remind you of the original and you love the original so much.
It's a legendary song.
And if somebody did it over it, their rendition of it probably was dope.
So now you want to do the more current version of that.
Right.
But it's just getting to a point.
where we're sampling samples that are sampled by samples that were sampled.
And my thing is, all right, because I'm going to sound like a hypocrite because the hip hop
and we love game.
I don't want to sound like we're shitting on game because we love game.
I'm going to talk about game right now.
But I am going to get to the records that are on here that I feel are like that.
The hip hop I grew up on did sample a lot of soul and R&B.
That was obvious samples to the generation before me.
And to some degree, me growing up in a household of parents that played music.
Well, let's be, hold on.
Before you get into that, Rory, hip hop.
does derive from the breakbeat sampling.
So it's the breakbeat and a disco record.
It's the DNA of hip hop sampling.
But it's becoming a bit
much.
Yeah.
It's becoming a bit and too blatant.
It's like it's not even a,
it's not even remake.
It's like they changed the BPM a little bit.
It's the same record.
It's not even that.
They added one snare or added an extra basis.
Right.
Like one pitch higher.
Right.
And I think just sampling,
I don't mind sampling within the genre.
Mm-hmm.
But completely.
taking records from the genre is weird to me. Like,
even like when Puff and the Hitman were doing all that, yes, they were taking from other
genres and making it hip hop. Now we're taking hip hop and just putting a new verse on it
and calling it a new song. Like, listen, man, that bone thuggedugged sample. Thuggett's
bone? I have thuggish, rugged's bone. I don't need game and
whoever else is on this, on that shit. Wayne, I love. I love game. I don't need them
to just wrap on that.
If you're going to do that,
go to LA leakers,
bring up the thuggish,
rugged,
bone, a beat,
and go off.
I don't need a song
that is the most obvious
fucking sample.
As much as I actually
did not mind
the ASAP
money cash clothes shit.
I don't know if I'll ever go back.
Money cash hoes I will be going back to
for the rest of my life.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's still bangs.
Just,
and I can't blame game for this
because this is the new shit.
Even Nikki doing that
with something outside
the genre. It's just the fucking same
song. It's the same song. It's the same. And
that's like, again, I understand hip hop
derives from, you know, the breakbeat and sampling and all of that.
But I think that there are a lot of producers, there are a lot of artists that
are so great and they're not doing the heavy, heavy sampling shit.
And it's like they don't get the same notoriety.
Remember when it was cool if you knew the sample? Or you could tell someone.
Or if you were able to figure it out. Yeah. Remember when it was cool to find that
shit out? Hell yeah. Now it's the same record. Same song.
Same song.
So yeah, I think if he, if, I don't know for the younger generation, maybe this is the way
it was for me when I was their age and I didn't know every record that was being sampled,
even though this is obvious samples.
Maybe not to say game goes for the younger crowd, but Nikki, for example, I'm sure
there's plenty of people that did not know any Rick James songs and are like, wow,
Nikki created an amazing hook.
It's, no, I don't believe that.
Who doesn't know Super Freak?
Yeah, old Navy sampled it.
Yeah, like, yeah, I'm about saying.
Who doesn't know Super Freak?
Like, it's one of the biggest fucking records ever.
But that's, I mean, on the game album, those are the real ones that I just dislike with the complete obvious shit.
But if game...
It's a couple joints on here that a dope.
If Game just gets rid of those, I do think there's some shit on here.
Yeah, it's just too much.
It's just too many tracks, 30 tracks.
That's a lot.
But the highlight of the album...
Is this, right?
Yo, I just want to check back in with you.
You know, that feature thing.
Future thing's probably not going to work out.
Probably not going to work out.
We can learn so much.
from Aubrey.
Yuck.
Drake might be the go at canceling plans.
I can't wait to get my voice note off like that.
Yo, this is mall.
That dinner thing, it's probably not going to happen right now.
It's probably not going to happen.
What a perfect way to say, yo, I'm not doing a verse for you.
Yeah, no.
Listen, he changed the game with that.
It's like now we know like, oh, this is how you cancel plans.
And this is, I know we go back to toxic and honesty thing.
typically I'll do the ghost thing
which I'm not proud of sometimes
when I really don't want to do something
I'm like oh fuck let me just not reply
I can't do that I hate that I do that sometimes
I do too it's actually really rude
and I need to change it
goddamn it maul but this right here
this is a master class
in respect
in avoiding something that
he should inevitably know
is like I wasn't going to do this
yeah
do we think
do we think is the tone
yeah all right remember when he
He sounds worn out.
He had a great time living life.
You know what I think he's pulling from?
Remember when you were fake sick, like, to not go to school and shit?
Yeah.
Like, you would try to put it.
Yeah.
I've never applied that to canceling plans or not doing something for somebody.
Like, yo, bro, he's just like, you know, I already is right now.
Yeah, damn.
Yo, I'm working for the Ministry of Defense.
I said, what?
He got that.
He told game.
Yo, I can't do your album, dog, because, like, I'm defending Canada right now.
And what do you say to that?
You can't say nothing to that.
And even with this.
This tone.
What do you say to it?
I'm sorry.
That saga of my life.
I've had a few sagas in my life.
Yo, listen, I can't make dinner.
Last night, it was a saga going on.
Can you imagine, like, just cheating on your girl and being like, you know, it's like, I needed that saga on my life with them.
Yeah, nah.
We're using the wrong words.
And that's what we're doing.
We're using the wrong words.
Last night was a trilogy.
Yeah.
Last night, yo, it was a fucking, it was an episode.
Like you can't say it was a lot going
It was a fucking episode last night
Yeah it was a fucking
It was a documentary last night
You had to be there
I played the new album
By the way
That goes
By the way
This is a very underrated
tactic that he's using
That like use cars salesmen use
And anyone that's like in sales
You find something that you know that they'll agree with
Yeah
Like yo had to play the album
You know how that goes right
And now you sit in here
You can relate.
Like, damn, maybe he can't do that verse because I know what it's like to play
album.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I thought that was genius.
I thought it was funny.
And I do think that that was planned.
I don't think that was real.
Have to add real estate into it.
The word acquire.
Negotiating.
Yeah, because you can't get mad at somebody if they acquired a bunch of property and they're
trying to like make sure everything is like going great with their fucking investment.
What are you going to say, yo, fuck your investments.
Give me my verse.
All right.
As someone, as someone that's bad,
in escrow. There is a lot of time to play
a 16. There's a whole lot of time.
The time he spent doing that voice,
no, this city is 1.40. That's a feature. That's a verse.
Like, why didn't you just do that to a beat?
I just made a middle of God back.
The Ministry of Defense in Canada.
The Ministry of Defense,
for you.
I can't wait to tell somebody, y'all, I had to go to the U.N.
Obviously, you know, I still do music, too.
I still do pods, too. So, you know what I mean?
Like, it's obvious that I still do my episode
every week so I can't really do dinner tonight.
That's the whole malls like, yo, I still protect Fordham campus.
I'm still campus security.
Like, you know.
Yeah, I've still had a security on Jerome Avenue.
Don't worry about it.
You know, it's freshman orientation this week.
That shit was funny.
I do think that it was planned.
A lot of people I seen talking about it and he's like that's fucked up Drake.
I'm like, dog, if y'all think that Drake really was serious in that fucking voice note,
y'all, I think that's actually 100% real, not planned.
And I think Drake was dead serious.
and that was a masterclass in telling a friend
and someone that he respects,
I'm not doing a version of this time.
I think that that was planned.
I do think he was like,
yo, listen,
I'll send you a funny voice note or something
saying that I couldn't do the feature
will have fun like that.
That is not a real voice note.
Let's say if it wasn't planned,
do you have to get permission for that to be cleared out?
Well, I was,
next thing I was going to bring up,
I would love to see the paperwork.
Right.
On that inner.
Like how much does Drake get on the back end of that?
like what's the publishing splits
who's the producer
does Gay like if that's you somewhere else
does game get royalties on it
getting royalties off a voice note is sick
and why don't call me Drake with the braids on my voice note
well he's Drake and he has braids now
and he was on a super yacht
he was on a super yacht and
Ibiza playing his album for everybody
that's why he can give you your verse
Game did say on the album I forgot what song it was
it was the worst
I guess
encouragement bar I've ever heard in my life.
He said anything is possible.
Even Drake got braids.
He said that.
You know Drake's hair grows, right?
No.
The sickest shit that game set on that album was...
Saying a billionaire can't get his hair braided.
I was in Brooklyn.
Well, he said, no.
He said, yeah, I've seen Fab outside of the La Mottage.
What is this?
The hotel in L.A.?
The Lomitage?
I think it's the Lomitage.
Whatever.
He said, yeah, I saw it.
a fab out outside that shit years ago
was gonna rob him.
Damn, this is probably gonna fuck about friendship.
Hope this doesn't affect our-
game, let me tell you something.
Once you revealed that you thought about robbing
the nigga years later, it's probably going to affect you.
Yeah, it's not gonna be good. How would you feel, though?
If you said you was gonna rob me?
Let's say you were a rapper
12 years prior to another rapper.
And you was in the beginning of your career
outside in his city,
looking like a mark with mad jewelry. I'm not saying
Fab was Mark, but you just out there
Yeah, he got money right now.
And the other rapper is an active gang member that isn't rapping or knows you.
Wanted to hit a lick.
Yeah, I get it.
I look very robble.
I would still feel fine.
Like, we're still friends.
Don't rob me now.
Yeah, as long as you don't still view me that way, that's cool.
But I understand.
It's like, yo, listen, Fab was lit at the time.
I was trying to get on.
He was standing outside the hotel in Cali where I'm from.
I'm in the street's heavy gang banging.
He out here with all his jewelry on.
Yeah, he looked like a victim.
Yeah.
But I will say once we became friends, why didn't you mention that and tell me how to look less.
We had mad conversations.
Less robble in your city.
Yeah, like, we had mad conversations.
Yeah.
You were slipping.
Yeah, you remember that time back in 2005 when you was outside?
Yeah, I was going to rob you then.
Tell me that when we, like, kicking it like in real life.
Don't put that on the album and then let me hear that for the first time because now I'm like, wait, what?
And be like, hey, I was an active gang member and I found you very easily.
You should change your schedule up.
You should have had your security slipping, jury all out.
I was right there behind the car.
It got you.
But I think that was all in fun.
I think that, you know, Fab is not, you know,
Fab don't care about shit like that.
But, yeah, the game, heart versus mine, dramatic in your DSPs now.
Yeah, there's joints on here, man.
I don't want to think that we're shitting on it.
There's definitely ones that are like.
No, we're not shit on it.
All 31 ain't it.
It's just too much music, man.
And it's not, but that's the gift and it occurs.
I think it's L.A. thing.
All that music.
And I don't mean the city itself, Los Angeles.
I mean that every.
fucking rapper, singer, period.
I don't think we've ever seen a time
where every single
artist within the genre
of rap and R&B for the most part
has moved to one city.
New York at its time, of course, when
a lot of people were living here. Atlanta.
I remember when everyone moved over there.
Miami.
Texas. To have everybody
in R&B and everybody
in rap to live within
30 minutes of each other
creates a lot of great sessions
and I do think music can be better for it
because it's less emailing and shit
and it's more actual studio sessions
like I love to see when Game and Roddy
were in Hit Boy Studio and they heard the beat
for the first time like I thought that shit was cool
but it does allow you to create too much fucking music
and it's like oh shit I'm in with him
and I don't usually get this type of feature
so I'm keeping it
and you get these long ass fucking albums
because you get with artists
that are from L.A. like Todd Ailer
that records 17 songs a day that all sound fire.
And of course, they're going to make their rounds throughout the city.
And they're going to end up in sessions.
And, oh, shit, you did this with Ty?
Let me hop on that.
Let me get that.
I think L.A. is a gift and a curse for everyone being out there.
Sometimes it works out beautifully for collabs we wouldn't usually get in person.
But I think it also allows you to have 31 fucking records with everybody.
I think that artists need to get back to not leaning so heavy on features, too.
like you can have access to a lot of artists and you know have relationships with a lot of artists but i think
sometimes when you create your art when you start sharing it and and cutting it up with too many
other artists i think that it sometimes takes takes away from it yeah and i just sometimes it's it is a
such thing as too many features oh i completely agree you know i mean so i just think that a lot of these
artists need to get back to just locking in with producers you know just them and a producer um and just
you know, taking their time and just putting together a project.
Like you said, Rod Wave got one or two features on this project.
But I mean, with that L.A. shit, like, though, we joke about highlight room so much on this
fucking podcast.
You know how many features have existed because of highlight room?
Because it's not so much that, hey, let's get up and like, let's do something, industry
talk.
Now, we both live in L.A. now.
Yeah.
And you actually follow up with that shit, especially if it's the, I don't want to say,
like the lower artist, but the person that's not as popular is going to follow up.
more and more.
Yeah.
And they all end up
in the same studios.
And there's only so many
studios in L.A.
Yeah.
And everyone's in different rooms.
Anytime you walk in its studio,
it's like, oh, this person's over here,
this person's over there, this person's over there.
It just naturally is how humans work.
It's like a press run.
Yes.
Like when somebody's in L.A.
recording, it's like, yo,
and y'all in L.A., you'll come through the studio.
First of all, it starts off as come through
and just, I want you to hear the album.
Yep.
And so if you invite every artist that's coming through LA
to come to the studio and hear your project,
what's going to happen?
Oh yo, you got something for that.
Oh, I got something for that.
Let me get on that.
Let me hear that.
Pull that up.
I like this joint.
And it's like, before you look up, you got 15 features on your album.
Almost every studio in L.A.
these days is a writer's camp by accident.
Because everyone's in there.
And even a lot of these forced writers camps are bringing even more records because they're
not going to make the album you're working on.
And then you meet that artist.
It's like, yo, engineer bounced that.
And now it's ours.
So there's good and bad with it.
I just think some, I see the artists that go to L.A.
just for a week after working a year on their music.
And I see the difference.
It's like, we're just going to work on these five records.
I want this specific verse and then I'm leaving.
Let's try to create 70 records this weekend.
And then I'll scatter some features of who's in East West this day.
I need people to pay attention to J.D.
I think they are.
I think J.I.D. is going to be a superstar.
He's an amazing talent.
He put out a new video, dance now.
Great video.
New song, new video.
I'm looking forward to.
to this project. August 26, I believe, is the release date.
August 26, J.I.D. If you don't know who J.I.D. is, please get familiar. He's a super,
super, super talent. One of my favorite artists. Video is dope. I don't know who directed.
Did we find out who directed the video on Julian? I'm not sure who did the video. The video is
amazing. But J.I.D. always has, his vision is always crazy. And shout out to my man Felton,
who does All Creative Direction for a Dream Bill. I mean, I know he didn't direct the video.
but he has a hand in everything
as well as the album cover that they
revealed I think is amazing for the Forever Story
I look forward to it
I've heard a good majority of it
and it sounds really really really
really fun and I'm looking forward to that project
the Danger Mouse and Black Thought album
Cheatodes
really like it
I like the joint Joey badass I love
the joint Rayquan is hard
saltwater with Conway
this is you know
one of those type of what thing
12 tracks.
See what I'm saying?
Keep it small.
38 minutes.
Yeah, keep it right.
That's a good number right there.
It gives people time to listen and digest it.
Where did you listen to it?
I was in the crib.
I was in how I was showing.
I have the pill.
Okay.
I listened to it in the car for the first time and I couldn't hear Black Thought
at all.
Really?
What you mean?
Like at all?
I could hear them, but I couldn't hear them hear them.
Oh, it wasn't mixed well?
When I put my AirPods in, I really enjoyed it.
you got the iPhone nine.
I think you need to, um...
Is that, is that a low number now?
Yeah, what are they on?
They're letters now.
They're about to get to 14.
Yeah, there's letters.
But what is that after?
Oh, it's back in the math.
It's like X, yeah, it's like,
salt for X iPhone?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right.
Yeah, it could just be my shitty Mazda speakers, but...
Don't shit on the Mazda speakers.
It was from 2014.
Yeah.
What iPhone was out in 2014?
That one?
It was just, it's made for headphones.
I feel like,
with the mixing. And then some records were mixed different. It was hard. It sounds really
fucking good. But I couldn't really get into it until I have my headphones on. Okay.
Yeah, just it was mixed weird. I don't know if it was mixed purposely that way.
Sometimes I like when samples, sometimes I like when samples are too loud, like purposely too
loud. But they were too loud. Like I couldn't even hear Black Thought on certain stuff.
But I did like it overall. And I don't want to sound like I'm shitting on it. But no,
it's definitely a good project. If you haven't checked out Cheech codes, Danger Mouse and Blackthor,
download that stream that and if you don't like it deleted from your fucking library like i do
sometimes there you go i give a lot of art it spins listen to it listen to a lot of saying it delete
from library um a rie lennox hoodie video and single came out second single yeah yeah
shout out the mez king mez excuse me mez hairs i don't want to call him his old i know his old
name yeah shout out the mez and he directed the video uh shout out the ari dope another dope single
is a excuse me
would you call Ari?
Fine.
Fine.
Okay.
Ari is definitely very pretty.
Well, I love the record.
I think the record's really good.
Just as a fan, I just put the album out.
Like, I understand you pressure.
Pressure.
Pressure did amazing.
You had to work pressure.
Number one.
You worked pressured to the best fucking way I've seen someone slow burn a record in
2022.
Like, I thought that was kind of ill how they did that.
For like the old school way to get a record to number one.
I just think we need the album
I'm with you
And I know how difficult
Did she have a release date?
She tweeted out that the album is done
Okay
Don't have a release date yet
They have not announced one yet
Okay
From my understanding it is soon
So
I'm excited
I'm excited
I'm excited
I mean
That's my friend
But this is a podcast
So you didn't ask her
When she's releasing an album
I wouldn't say it on here
I'm a fan on the podcast
No I know you asked
I'm a fan of Rory Linux.
I know I'm, I know you asked.
I was just asking if you asked her for the release date.
I know the release date, yes.
Can you tell us off, Mike, I mean?
You know us?
Rory gets so protective of Ari.
It's my friend.
I would never tell her release date on my platform.
Are you kidding me?
That was a confidential conversation we had.
Okay, you can put the voice on, but yeah.
I know.
I know, trust you.
100% I'm very protective of Rari.
I get it.
Number two, if she told me a release date in confidentiality,
if that's even a word or just a movie.
She told me to release date as well.
It's okay.
In conference.
Got it.
No,
miscongeniality.
Yeah.
I was like,
wait,
wait,
what?
The wild game of scrabble,
y'all got going over.
I would not save the date on here.
That's for them to release.
Yeah,
no,
she'll tell her fan base her release date,
Roar,
it's okay.
I think she should be the one to tell.
I don't know if I should be the one to break it.
I'm with you on that one.
I'm with you on that.
I saw Baby D going crazy early,
popping and dropping it.
I don't know if she was listening to Tramazine.
I was.
Meg's album.
I was.
Me and Bays.
I'm going to be honest, man.
I like this album more than I probably should.
I'm going to be honest.
Like the production was hard.
Meg was talking her shit.
I understand it's not like I'm not going to be banging this project, obviously.
But I listened to it just to hit what Meg did.
And she did a good job.
I'm not mad at this project.
I agree.
You like it?
How the girls responded to it.
She loves it.
I love it.
The girls are responding good.
I like it.
She did some different things.
She got in probably got in the studio with her.
man and came up with some different
song concepts. She's still talking that shit like
her pussy good, her mouth good and fuck these bitches
and I'm very supportive of it. Wait, pussy good, her mouth
good and fuck these bitches. Who are the girls?
I like that. What girls?
What are you talking about? He said the girls. How are the girls?
Like the girls. Like the
girls? The people that identify
you, your demographic. Oh.
No, I'm just thick.
I like that Jeney record a lot
on there. Oh, dick inconsistency.
I mean, that's not the line I would have went right to.
Yeah. That's the name of the
The name of the song is consistency.
But don't say I like it.
The name of the song is Dick.
It's called consistency.
Meg would not name her song, Dick and Consistency.
Don't let me say I like a song and then you come right after.
And did a little rock like she was on the dick just now.
You didn't see it?
I've also never given consistency.
In anything.
Actually, this part is the only thing I've done consistent in my own.
Dick has never been it.
At all.
But yeah, I like the album.
Obviously, I'm not going to be banging this shit much because it's Meg just talking about
exactly.
Goosey,
gushy,
wet,
wet.
Do you think it was rushed?
No.
No,
well, it doesn't sound much.
I don't think it sounds rushed.
I don't mean that way.
I think did they rush it
because of...
They rushed the rollout.
The rollout was off.
The rollout was very off.
But she put out that she was fighting
with her label
about releasing music and stuff.
But she said this,
I think it's her last project with them.
Oh, so I'm going to rush that shit.
Yeah, she's trying to get it up.
Okay, I was going to be the messy person
that was like,
all right,
September is coming very soon
and that's when the trial is.
And I would also understand,
if you have a trial coming, not that she's on trial, but she will be part of the trial.
Yeah, get that out.
Let me do my fucking press now and get this shit out.
But that's where I felt it was rushed not because I saw people saying like, oh, the real facts will come out.
That's why Meg's putting music.
I'm like, no, maybe she just has to go to court and wants to put her out of her album.
If she owes her 15-01, I think it is.
If she owes one album and this is it, the last one, then I can see her wanting to get this out of the way for sure.
How many albums does Meg have?
Official album she has two.
I want to say six.
Because Meg is one of those artists I thought was going to be the album disappear for a few years, do a feature every now and then and then come back.
Artist, she puts out music very often.
Yeah.
She has good news.
Fever.
Tina Snow, obviously.
Six.
Wow.
Sugar.
Yeah.
And that's all before.
Obviously, we know she put shit out before.
They're hot.
With the DSP stuff.
I'm starting from the very.
She puts out a lot of fucking music, man.
Why do you think that, because for some reason, I can't figure out why Meg doesn't
get the support.
I think that a lot of other female emcees, female rappers get.
Why do you think that is?
From who, though?
From the fan base, from the fans, from the culture.
I think Meg had a moment where it became very cool to hate her.
I remember Nikki said she had a Nicki hate train and it was like the cool thing to hate her.
the whole thing were when she got shot and stuff like that
I feel like people just kind of chose sides on her
and they let it like affect them judging her music as well
like people who oh she's a liar she's a liar she's a liar
and then it was but that was mostly men that weren't listening to
no there were a lot of
like where in the shade room comments or in the real leg
listen I'm telling you a lot of women
Torrey lanes has a lot of fans
there were a lot of women that were very anti-Meg
very anti-Meg and very quickly
It switched very quickly.
She had a bar on one of these songs addressing that whole situation.
But I do know what she gets to, I don't remember the verbatim,
but I do know when she gets into that Tina Snow shit,
there's not a lot of female emcees that could keep up with her.
I agree.
Like when she gets into that type of, like,
I remember seeing the first few videos of Meg, like, rapping at the gas station and all that.
And I was like, yo, I don't know who she is,
but she's spitting.
She definitely has one of the better flows.
Even voices.
I like Meg's voice, her tone.
Oh, she's great.
I like her energy.
I like her confidence.
Her LA League is freestyle.
It was another freestyle she did.
I can't remember which platform that was on when she killed that.
And I'm just trying to figure out where to, I guess, the disconnect with the support lies.
Well, before we get right there to the point of the flow,
Damaris and I were talking
and she corrected me
and again I will never claim
that I know every Meg song
and I don't want to make this a woman thing
the way the internet will
because I say this about Ross too
who's one of my favorite rappers
it's an incredible flow
seems like
it's very much the same
on a lot of records
and there's plenty of rappers that do it
and rappers that I love
but the amount of music
she puts out
with the minimal amount of features
which I commend
can get
it's not boring
but it's just for a full album sometimes
it can disconnect
the fans a bit
I feel like
when it's very much the same
not even saying content
just the same flow
just just from a rhythmic
point of view for your ear
I really hope that
I say this about rappers I love
I think Ross does it a lot too
and finds a way to not make it boring
and then there's rappers that don't
that just sounds boring at this point
I do hope that her
and I hope she really gets
in the studio a party
because like I've always talked about his pen
and his songmaking ability
I think that you know
her and party can really get in the studio
and make some really really dope songs together
like I know Meg writes a lot of her shit
if not all of it but I do think that
having somebody with an ear like party
locking in with a couple producers
I think Meg could really make it like a
really really crazy fucking album
Can we get back to rappers
actually having singers on the hooks
instead of attempting to sing the hooks themselves
Well, I think that's rappers
Worst thing to do us.
Well, singers that are like
Known singers or the singers that's like
Who is this girl from your hood
That just got a nice voice that you used?
Oh, I miss when they used to do that.
Yeah, that was a thing.
Like, you're like, where's she at right now?
Like, what's she doing with her?
She got a classic hook on a classic fucking rap record.
That's where you get the Tony Sunshines.
That's where you get the RELs.
Yeah, I'm down for that.
I miss that.
I'm down for that.
Like, for example, I'm talking about it
because we were talking about Meg's album
and she has a song with Lucky Day.
But she's singing.
Are you serious?
It's horrible.
You didn't like that song?
Oh my God.
It's awful.
Really?
It's kind of cheesy to me.
Because she's singing.
Megan can't sing.
Well, yeah.
I agree with that.
She can't sing.
You should have lucky sing that.
Like when she did with,
um,
with Jenei Iiko on consistency.
Okay.
Jeannay killed that.
She sounds amazing.
Meg sounds amazing on her verses.
Just let's get back to.
I feel like Drake,
Drake and Kanye fucked everybody up and they got all these rappers
thinking that they could fuck
and sing and I want it to end.
Okay.
Give the singers the hooks back.
That's fair.
No, I think I think that was more Wayne than anyone.
Because Wayne can't sing and all his hooks when he sings sound amazing.
Collier and Drake can sing.
Not sing, but they can sing.
Wayne did his hook singing and can't sing for shit and it was like, this is fire.
It just amazes me when people can't sing in 2022 because you can just auto tune your
fucking voice.
I wish it was that simple.
It's not as easy as you think of it.
Yeah. I mean, if you got half an ear for fucking pitch,
Like right now, do a little no
And I'm going to put an audit to it on it
It sounds really cheesy
Come on.
Why you be trying to turn me into like these viral moments all the time?
I'm not.
I'm gonna kick your ass off.
You are a viral moment.
You got me.
See, this is why, why is she still here?
Why is she still here?
I mean, we're talking about the album.
It would be the first record that we were saying, no?
I'm not singing the hook to consistency.
All right, we'll sing Ruby Rose.
I don't know that hook.
Well, Maul, you know something.
Shit.
Sing it so Ed didn't put auto to mine.
I don't.
I don't know.
You were in the Harlem Voice Choir.
You could actually sing without a ball too.
Yeah, exactly.
See?
I can sing for real.
Sing love on top.
I'm going to sing one day.
Love on top.
Yeah, Beyonce.
Oh, sorry.
You see?
I was trying to do the baseline.
I don't know, no, no, no.
We're not doing that.
Bring the beat in.
Bring ball in.
No, no, no, no.
We're not doing that.
We're not doing that.
Look at Juliet.
He's a human being.
If you don't bop your shoulders ahead when Love on Top comes in.
Yeah, no, we're not doing that.
Romona Park.
broke my heart
so no one has a theory
why no one likes
that came out
no but I'm just
no
I came out so long
no you know why
because nobody is talking
about this
I talked about it when it came out
I love a something
but keep going
I'm just want to
I just want to put that out there
Vince Staples
Ramona Park broke my heart
stream that album
listen to it
if you're hip hop head
one of the best
albums of the year
by far
well I'm sorry
to interrupt the initial
question that you asked
as far as why
that I
The fans not connect with Meg.
Okay.
Because I don't know.
I feel like she hasn't been hated on.
I know the Torrey Lane's thing
caused some split between,
but I thought she was the fucking people's champ before that.
I thought so, too.
I don't think Meg ever got hate ever.
No,
no,
City girls versus high girls.
But I felt the same way about Nikki
when she first started saying that
and then I realized, oh shit,
all right, Nikki does get a lot of hate.
Oh, yeah.
So it could be the case in this one and I just know.
But what is it, though?
Because it's weird.
It's weird that that happens.
It sways from females.
emce to female emcees.
It's like, why is it?
But that's not just with female
emcees. Don't do that. Because Drake was the
greatest ever. Now he gets hated on nonstop.
Hove was the greatest ever. Now it's mad hove.
Who hates on Drake?
Mad people. Really?
Mad people. Where?
Like, on online? Twitter, even when Drake was
at the peak peak. I mean, I know they hated
the last album. Because it's a dance album.
I know they hated that.
Aside from that. Drake, he's gotten a hate forever.
Who's we?
You know why? Double album.
I don't know. I mean, hey.
Look at you doing it.
the math.
I'm just telling, that's what it is.
Whenever it's too much music,
it's just something about it that's like,
yo, I'm not sitting through 30,
35 tracks. I'm just not doing it.
Y'all sat there and hated on views too.
Who's y'all?
I love that shit.
I didn't know.
How old were you when views came out?
14. 21.
He was 21.
Yeah.
How old are you?
Yeah, that was a good year.
I'm 27.
I'll be 28 in September.
Oh.
Okay.
Good year.
Yeah.
Well, there's only been what two?
Why was that a good year?
year.
2016.
Everybody knows 2016 was the best year of all time.
It was a real year.
It was a best year of all time.
Everybody,
I love what people say that
the best year of all time.
No, it was it.
Was it a good year for you?
2016?
That was a good year.
I had fun that year.
But that wasn't the greatest year ever.
I don't know.
The greatest year ever is sick.
That's just crazy to call one year.
Yeah, that's the greatest year.
In my recollection, I don't think there's been a better year.
In 2016?
Get the fuck out here.
2016.
I feel like the least amount of terrible shit happened.
The best music came out.
But y'all are young.
So y'all are young.
Y'allot wasn't outside in 84.
So, no, I can't speak.
I wasn't outside of 84.
I was 14 in 2004.
I had 14-year-old fun in 0-4.
I know what you did in 2016.
What I do?
She licked your ass for the first time.
In 2016?
Yeah.
Type of.
Oh, you was getting that.
Oh, you was getting that earlier.
Oh, you're a nasty Irish lad.
Look at you, you nasty lad.
It was standard in 2016.
Oh, no, it was definitely.
It's definitely standard of 2016 for sure.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wait, I don't know why it got silent.
Yeah.
I don't know why you try to play me right there.
How else do you listen to that record?
I felt a bunch of ways.
No, but double albums is not for everybody.
It's not very bad.
There's too much fucking music, man.
It's too much.
We don't need that much.
I can only think of two in rap that ever worked.
All eyes on me in life after death.
And maybe just life after death.
And the speaker box, love below.
But that wasn't a double album to me.
That was a big boy album and Andre 2000 album.
Still a double album.
Okay, then we'll put that one there.
Because both sides are amazing.
Absolutely.
But there was still some skips.
All right.
So look, man.
You know, y'all,
I've been trying to get me to watch this Woodstock, Doc.
Yes.
And I was kind of apprehensive.
Because I'm like, I'm like,
Woodstock, I know the white people.
Yeah, dirty white people running around doing drugs.
I get it.
Life.
But you left out one particular thing about this doc,
and I'm surprised because you love,
you love the melanated women.
Of course I do.
Oh.
Ananda Lewis.
who was in a doc who might be aging better.
Yeah.
If you would have said, Amor, look, Ananda Lewis is in this document.
I thought Fred Dirtz got it done.
No, no, no.
Ananda Lewis, like, are you kidding me?
Of course.
You know, I used to run home to watch Anandah Lewis.
Wow.
Just to see what she was going to wear, how her hair still looks like it smells like a vacation.
What Doja Cat was saying in that tweet is what you were doing to me?
Oh, absolutely.
I was tugging it to Ananda.
I'm joking.
I was not doing that.
It's okay if you were.
The beautiful Ananda Lewis was in the documentary.
Woodstock, 99, is that what it's called?
She was, I would say, one of the main people in.
Yeah, absolutely.
She looks great.
But the documentary was interesting.
I learned some things about Woodstock that I didn't know.
One thing that I learned about Woodstock that I didn't know was white people are dirtier and crazy than I thought they were.
That's wild to think that there's something that could tell you that we're dirtier than we already are.
No, no, no.
That duck?
Was it bathing in the porta potty mud?
Oh, my God.
What did it?
I, listen, I knew Woodstock was wild.
I knew it was, you know, back in the day, it was crazy.
Yeah.
Woodstock 99.
We had videos.
We had MTV back then.
We saw, you know, what was my favorite guy's name on?
They used to do the news on.
Carson Daly?
No, no, no, no.
The other guy.
Oh, every hour on the hour.
Yeah.
What is his name?
I forgot his name.
Love him, though.
He broke so much news in my life.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
You kidding me?
He was the, he was all news anchor.
Yeah.
But the documentary was good, though.
Michael Lang, who started it, you could tell he's, he's still on his Woodstock.
shit. He still looked like he doesn't shower.
Well, I think he actually just recently passed.
Didn't they say that at the damn? He did. He did. Yeah.
He passed like two months after the doc. I'm sorry. I didn't mean that, Rory.
Recorded it. I didn't know him personally. I think it's sad when people pass.
No, we're not, we're not in relation. Oh, okay. My bad. I thought that was your Lord and
not white people are related. He is not your savior. Even though, he's definitely not my second.
But rest of peace to Michael Ling, I did not know he passed away.
Well, also though, the level of I don't give a fuck that he brought from the 60s
to the 90s. Carried over.
Was fucking hilarious.
That was just who he was.
That was his energy.
He wasn't faking.
That's just who he was.
That's how he lived life.
He was free.
He wanted to just have fun.
And, you know, he didn't want to conform to society's rules.
No, man.
No, they all right.
Throw a big ass party.
Everyone get drunk, get high, get dirty.
I was talking with my pops,
and this was before the Woodstock documentary.
Of just my observation of how I think it's funny,
all these fake hippies ended up turning into the corporate fucking
fucking conservative assholes that are of now.
Yeah, what they didn't want.
And that's who the fucking was.
he was.
Yeah.
He was definitely the, yeah, man.
It's like, let's do it, man.
Flowers, man.
And then in 1999, he got up there with the mayor.
Let's get paid, man.
He got up there with the government.
Yeah.
And was like, everyone had an amazing time.
Yeah.
Everyone loved each other.
Except for one or one to a hooligans.
They treated that like the way the government treats the police now after we see the footage.
It's just a few bad apples.
Yeah.
Everyone's fine.
I love the part when the guy was backstage and he was.
was saying how they didn't have the money the back end to pay James Brown yet.
Yeah.
And he was like, you know, his manager, like, listen, if you don't have the money,
James isn't going on.
And you see James is standing there looking at from side stage, just looking at the crowd.
And I'm saying to myself before, I don't remember James Brown walking off and not doing,
not doing this.
So I'm like, this is going to be crazy if James Brown walks away from all of these people.
Yeah.
Which is something he would do.
Absolutely.
And then he was like, James Brown is not turning this down.
Like all of these fucking people like, are you kidding me?
and it was like he hit the stage
and it was like yo I forgot how many people were at that
Woodstop. That was like
see shit like that to me
I can never go to shit like that
I don't want to be around that many people
I don't want to be in the mix of all of that shit
that's just way too much shit going on
but you have to understand those like especially
at that time I know it's kind of more of the norm
because like weekend festivals are a thing
that wasn't a festival that was like a lifestyle
that's like a burning man per se like
we say we couldn't be around those
people, but they were going for that very reason, and some of it may have not even been the
music.
It was just to be in that small city for that fucking time.
But as we know, you add in fucking hard drugs, alcohol, and irresponsible white people
to any city, mayhem will ensue.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yo, that shit got so crazy when they started tearing that shit up.
Yep.
They had to barricade themselves into that fucking...
The tower and all that.
Yo, I was just like...
But looking back, because a lot of those people now, ironically, they were.
work in entertainment. Yeah, they work in entertainment. They work in film. They work in, you know,
television, whatever. That was a moment where it was like, yo, these young kids are out here
and they're just like, yo, we don't give a fuck about any, we're having fun. We're doing whatever
the fuck we want to do. Do you think something like that could happen under the size of that
can happen in 2022? No. It has in different areas. Because that, not one thing. Coachella is big.
No, no, I'm saying, festivals in that regard and bad things happen at festivals have with
camera phones. I'm saying this type of shit has happened
in other aspects of life.
Yeah. Like with the camera phone. We've seen
kids get super fucked up at events and
things like that. It's just all pocketed differently. I'm just
talking about that many people. I don't think we've seen a
festival. Coachella, I don't think has that many
that many people. How many people were at it at this? I think
over 200,000, no? That's
amongst the world. Yeah. Yeah.
60,000 people. Like, that's just like, come on, bro.
Like, that's a lot of fucking people.
That's a lot of trust in a lot of people.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
That would give me that my anxiety level would be like watching it.
I was like there's no way I would ever go to no shit like that.
I could not be in the middle of that.
And there wasn't.
They were hiring kids.
They were like, yo, you want to job?
Like, all right, cool.
Like what?
I'm 16, bro.
And what's so funny is, of course, most of these people are probably parents now.
Of course.
It's hilarious.
Throwing right back in your face.
I'm sure they've said to all their kids that posted something on the internet.
Like, you know that's there forever.
Your kids are going to have to see this.
Yeah, mom.
Yeah.
There it is.
We saw you sucking dick on Netflix.
Damn.
Yeah, but the irony and that is a lot of the kids that were at Woodstock 99, their parents were at the original Woodstock.
Sure.
So it's like, you know, it's like.
But the cameras were only on Jimmy Hendricks at the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They weren't focused on the crowd and the boobs.
But I did like the documentary.
I thought it was, it was interesting, but I just, I can never be a part.
I can never go to no shit with 200,000 people else.
No, I'm not.
I can't do that.
That's way too many fucking people.
I mean, did they start inflation?
Because I used to think it was like when I would go to an NFL game and it would be like parking would be insane.
and water would be $7.
I didn't burritos.
Realize that this happened in 99 at Woodstock.
Yeah.
No, I remember this.
I remember.
I mean, obviously we got the docs,
so we actually got, you know,
the in-depth details about what went on
and what was going on behind the scenes
and how they put everything together.
But, um...
So overall, there were about 400,000 attendees
and each ticket was about 180.
180 in 1999 is...
There's a lot.
There's a lot.
Especially when you have to buy food and drink.
But that line up kind of look crazy.
That's a lot of fucking people, man.
Why do you think they live?
left out DMX in that entire thing.
I was waiting by the second episode.
I was like, I can't wait until they blame this entire thing on X.
On the Rough Riders.
Like, and then the Ruff Riders showed up.
And you know, I feel like the editors probably and the producers thought about like,
all right, how can we angle this to just blame it on the Rough Riders?
They didn't have enough footage.
Yeah.
Probably not.
He did a whole good set.
I mean, blaming it on Limbiscuit was close enough, I guess.
Yeah, let Fred Durst take the heat for DMX.
Yeah.
The heat.
Listen, man
I don't know if we'll ever see
Festival the size of that Woodstock
99. I know I would never see one in person
I would never go to know shit like that
But I would love to see
The new rendition of Woodstock
In 2020
It was Firefuss.
Coachella's close enough.
How do you think Billy McFarlane felt
That no one went to jail over this?
Oof.
What you mean?
How do he feel?
So much like, all right, Fire Fest was fucked up
Don't get it twisted.
Yeah.
It was not.
nothing as bad as Woodstock 99.
No, Firefest was hurt. Sexually assaulted, raped.
Like, no one went to jail over it. Firefest didn't happen though.
Like, nothing happened. But he went to jail over it.
At least they put on an event.
Yeah, they had a whole...
Like, artists showed up. People were like performed.
Yeah, if I'm Billy, I'm sitting on fucking probation going, thank God that this festival
didn't happen. I saved mad lives by being terrible at my job.
I just love the fact that the idea came from one guy who just seems like he has no friends.
like Michael Ling looked like a loner.
He was probably a man in the 60s though.
Nah, he looked like he didn't fuck with nobody.
He's like, look, I'm gonna just have a party
and whoever show up, show up.
I don't give a fuck.
I wonder if he really did.
And then everybody showed up.
Like, it was fucking lit.
If you look at that Woodstock lineup for the first one,
that shit was crazy.
It was equally as crazy.
It was.
I feel like Sly and the Family Stones performed like in the morning.
Early, like 8 a.m. they were on stage at 8.
It probably was up all night too.
Oh, I'm sure I never stopped.
But it's just so funny, just the irony of a festival that's completely based off peace and love was burnt to the fucking ground.
It's just such a beautiful metaphor for America.
Exactly.
Did they really think it was going to be peace and love in Woodstock 99?
I mean, for the most part it was.
Everybody was having a good time chilling?
No, for an hour.
Yeah, that's the most part.
It was three days.
So there was no more food and clean water.
One out of 72 hours?
Yeah.
That's the most part.
Yeah, this was crazy.
Like, look at that.
Look how many fucking people, bro, that's just, it's just too much shit.
The Peace Patrol is hilarious.
The Peace Patrol.
Wait, Air...
The Peace Patrol got their asses handed to him.
Did they mention Aerosmith and Green Day?
I feel like some artists just have really good PR and got left out of that doc.
Because I was nine when this happened, so I don't remember the lineup.
Oh, no, so Aerosmith canceled.
Good for Aerosmith.
Yeah.
Good for Mick.
And I'm assuming...
Mick's over there and was like, yeah.
Do you not want to, I mean, this was...
I know it ended terribly, but it was one of the biggest events ever.
Yeah.
I can agree with that.
You know, you want to touch the stage.
Like, listen, I was there.
I performed at Woodstock.
So was Vietnam.
See, now you know, why you?
Rory just always got to go so dark.
Listen, we know you're depressed and you're hurting inside.
Wait, I'm the crazy one in that state.
Yeah.
How am I?
You compared Woodstock.
You can't.
You compared Woodstock to fucking.
Vietnam.
I'm going on
what you said.
I mean, stuff happened, but it was like
the biggest event ever, man.
So it's cool.
I didn't sound like that.
One was a war.
Yeah.
Like, Woodstock wasn't?
No, Woodstock just on the war.
Not because one of the biggest events ever doesn't.
Woodstock was a bunch of high and drunk kids that just decided to tear some shit up.
If you're going to compare that to Vietnam, I'm like, I'm the only, all right,
I'm about myself.
Fuck.
I know I'm always the way on the room.
I can only describe the American side at that time just because I studied history.
Vietnam was a bunch of high kids tearing shit up.
they just had guns
and Charlie was on the other side
the they just had
changes everything in that statement
you don't think they was on heroin
oh absolutely that's where it came
I saw American gangster buddy
I know where it came from
and this and their drug was ecstasy
yeah I mean it was a it was an interesting event
I mean I understand what they tried to do with it
but listen that many people
like you said Roy that's putting a lot of trust
in a lot of people and you never want to put
that much trust in people
that amount of people that amount of people
is insane to put that much time.
Yeah.
It's fucking crazy.
I don't know.
And you know like, come on.
As a performer, I would love to hit the stage and see that in front of me.
That would be insane.
Yeah, like, that's like, okay, I'll get that off.
You know what I got that footage, those, those pictures forever.
But to be in that, no.
No.
But you got to be like the opposite of a hippie to be okay.
That's why I think dude, it was a sociopath, not a fucking hippie.
Michael Lane?
You know, like you're setting that up for kids to be on their own intense.
You know what time it is.
you know the lineup you're doing.
Those kids are going to be high and drunk the entire time.
You're not done.
You're not some old naive dude.
You knew what was going to happen.
Yeah.
The fact, this shouldn't be a surprise of what.
All right.
Burning the shit down, sure.
Actually, I take that back.
Because after day three, everything that happened,
they thought, let's give everyone candles.
Yeah, that was, I don't know how to what the fuck are you just talking about.
No, they wanted to make sure everybody smell good.
You know what I mean?
Light some candles, like some incense.
Yeah.
Peace and love.
You got to have incense with peace and love.
You know that.
All respect to everyone that.
lost people in Columbine.
But anyone with a brain would have said,
I think everyone in Columbine would just like a shout out right now.
Right.
We don't need to get 400,000 people candles that are high and dehydrated.
Yeah.
And what was the Budweiser, Beer Garden, what was it, beer booth, beer something?
That was just polluted.
Yeah, I'm about to say, that was a whole other, that was a whole other Woodstock in
itself.
People didn't even go to see the performances.
They just hung out by the big ass.
the big ass beer can that was
filled with helium. Yeah, it was a
brewery experience. I just love that Puff showed up
in a throwback. At Woodstock.
This shit was crazy. Anana Lewis looked great. I'm going to keep
saying it. Jesus Christ, she looks good. I wish
I would have told me she was in this. I would have watched this
as soon as it came out.
Yo, the fact they threw that many bottles
at Carson Daly.
What's funny is I did start to like,
I agreed with the chaos
in the beginning because I was like, it's Woodstock.
It's the Revolt Culture fuck
the corporate shit
like you know we're hippies man
get all this this fucking commercialism away from us
get MTV away from us
so I wasn't mad at
maybe a beer bottle shouldn't go at Carson's say
I don't think Carson bothered nobody
he doesn't deserve that
you want to throw some plastic
for recycling purposes
I don't know maybe you're making a statement
yeah to go green yeah
that was funny
but boy did they take that a little further
did you see how much shit they had to clean up
what do you think traffic was like
oh my God
there's probably people still there right
You think people just stayed and raised their kids in Woodstock
Because they couldn't get out of the park.
Right in the woods.
This is where we're having the baby right here.
Interesting doc, if you haven't seen it, Woodstock 99 on Netflix.
Yep.
Yes.
Another doc, the Murder Inc.
Doc, episode two tonight.
Yes, we're recording this on a Monday.
Yeah.
Did we talk about episode one?
I did watch it.
Yeah, we did.
Not drink champs.
The episode itself.
No, I didn't watch it.
We talked about it.
I just talked about the last episode.
So you didn't watch episode one?
You didn't see yet?
When we talked about it, I definitely.
Oh, no. Okay. Yeah, no. We told, so let's talk about it now. How did you like it?
I loved it. I thought it was, I wish Irv didn't do that drink champs episode.
No, I, listen, I'm on the opposite end of that.
Oh, of course, more people are going to watch it because of that. But I just don't want them to take away from the genius that Irv was. I actually thought they sped through a lot of shit already.
Well, how many episodes is it? Do we know how many episodes this is?
I don't know. I think, I think when we talked to Irv, he said three or four, four part series, I want to say?
but we can look that up.
I'm not mad at it being four parts.
How old was the episode?
I think 50 minutes.
Yeah, it was a good, good first one.
Something like that, 50 minutes.
But it was a good first episode.
The production was like really, really good.
I love the way they produced the music underneath Earth storytelling.
And again, I understand what you're saying about him being on drink champs and how that may have put a bad
taste in people's mouth, you don't want that to take away from the genius and the
contribution that Irv has given to hip hop. But I think it's great. I think people get
that side of Irv, they get the honest side of Irv and him drunk and him just, you know, making
itself like a complete fool. But then getting this documentary and seeing him get emotional
about his dad passing and talking about family and his friends. Oh, that footage of Irv giving
his pops the Cadillac for Christmas? Amazing. That's what I'm saying. I had a little bit of a
tear jerk.
But that's what I'm saying.
That's why the drink champs, it's okay.
It's a five-part series.
But that's why that's okay because you get that side of Irv and then you get this side of
herb.
I will say the fact that they, I felt were very quick with a lot of stuff in the early
phases and its five parts makes me feel confident now.
Yeah.
How much shit do they have left?
Because they skipped through all of Rockefeller and Rough Riders in one episode.
Not really.
They kind of told the beginning of all of those relationships
and him being in London with Jay and running around early like that.
So they kind of touched on the beginning and how things came about.
But I thought that they did a great job.
The production on this is amazing.
I think that this is probably going to be one of the better docs that we have
from the record labels, history and things like that.
How old were you around that time when it was,
when Murder Inc. was actually the group
Jay, J, J, Jha, and X, not
the imprint. When it was
supposed to be, that was... Well, yeah, when it was supposed to be, rather.
That was 98?
Yes. I, yeah.
I was 16, 17, 16?
Do you have any recollection? And I know we joke a lot. I'm actually asking
a serious question. No, I remember getting, I remember
hearing the record. I remember the cover of the magazine, one of the most
iconic covers, them face in front, then you open it up and you see
the hands behind their back. They got weapons, bat.
I think a chain and something else.
That was like super dope to see that.
But yeah, I remember wanting to get that album and everybody told me,
like, yo, this is going to be crazy, you know, JX and J.X and Jha,
doing a whole joint together, a whole project.
And it never happened.
But that was definitely a talk of like Dan, they're about to,
because we got the record.
Yeah.
But we didn't, you know, get the whole thing.
But, I mean, looking back, I'm kind of glad it didn't happen.
Yeah.
I think all their careers went the way they should have.
And that may have pulled back.
And of course we didn't get the commission because of the obvious.
But had Big lived, I don't know if I would have wanted the commission to happen.
Yeah.
In the same way with this.
We got what?
Three records together plus four features of just one and two of them or whatever.
Like I think it served its purpose.
But it is interesting.
the route they took from that.
You know how we talk about Fithy and Kanye
with a nerd, I know I say it every time.
The nerds versus the street shit and that was split.
I think Murder Inc., the group breaking up
is one of those moments as well.
Because Jai did get all that,
you sound so much like X, you sound so much like X,
he went full melodic.
And I think that changed hip hop
probably just as drastically
as the nerd versus street split
did as well.
Well, like J.
When X and J was tearing shit up just on street records.
And Jai came in.
I don't forget about my baby.
Like, yeah, this shit changed hip-hop.
I never,
I never was one of those people that thought John X sounded anything alike.
I never thought that.
I don't feel that way either, but you're in the minority,
including DMX saying, hey, your man sounds too much like me.
Yeah, I never thought that jaw and X sounding like.
But that was, even I remember that was this.
If you want to say that.
That was a thing.
If you want to say that,
Vennivini Vichee versus Rule 336 are too completely.
different Jai rules.
Oh, yeah.
And I think Rule 336 change hip hop completely.
But I say that that's just an artist growing.
I don't say that that's him trying to get away from people saying he sounds like.
Now, if you want to say his image was like X, that's a whole different arc.
No, his image was like Pock, to be quite honest.
But if you're going to do, if you're going to say something.
I mean, the band, I get it.
But I can see people saying that.
I never thought that Jai and X sounded alike.
There are tones and inflections.
And even when like on Mardiogram and like certain records, like when Jai would, would,
would rap with a higher inflection
and then drop real low on a certain bar
like that's a very X cadence
so I can see why people would feel that way
especially when their
X is the biggest rapper and J's the biggest rapper
and J's the younger do like
all right that's your man it's like when J.R. writer
and Cameron were together
like oh he's rapping like him
they're not the same you can tell they're different rappers
but they're similar
so I think it was genius that they did that
and I think they even showed that
in the to come episode two
when Erv was like
Like there's only other one other way we could change Jai.
Let's make them the fucking R&B rapper.
Yeah.
Well, either way, I'm looking forward to episode two tonight.
I'm definitely going to check that out.
Check out the Murder Inc. Doc on BET.
BT did a great job.
You can tell you put a lot of money behind this document.
I mean, anytime you get hold to sit down in.
Well, that's an Irv thing.
They could have no budget and that would happen.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, I don't think they pay Jada.
No, after that, no.
That would have broke the budget.
By the way, I did appreciate.
Leor's honesty in this doc.
It was one thing that
that
that, uh,
Irv said in the dock that I just,
I didn't like it.
What was it?
Something to the,
uh, effect of
when you co-signed
to a white man
by a white man.
That's when you know you made it.
Ew.
I didn't like that.
Well, he said, he said on drink champs.
I didn't like that.
He went further on drink champs and said,
that the most important thing is being inside.
Yeah, I suppose I see what he was trying to say,
but I didn't particularly didn't either.
Yeah, that was on drink champs.
And that was my thing.
Like, Joss sitting right next to you.
Like, you said that was the biggest,
the most important moment of his career
or the biggest moment of his career or something.
I don't know if it was that.
He was saying his new business partner
when you're cosigned to a white billionaire or something.
Yeah.
I felt it was a little odd to it.
I could even see without watching it.
I was listening.
I wasn't even looking at the TV.
I could feel Norrie's part.
push back on it too.
Yeah.
I can just feel it.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, okay.
Yeah, I just didn't like that.
But either way, the documentary, the first episode was amazing.
I'm looking forward to watching the rest of it.
BT did a great job.
Shout out to Irv.
And yeah, we'll see what the rest of this doc goes.
Oh, well, yeah.
The thing I like that Leor did say, since we're, shit.
I'm not paying you more because you're like my son.
Now I feel bad since I'm complimenting a white man after that statement.
Oh.
Leor's honesty of like, yeah, I wanted to keep him as an A&R for 60 grand a year for bringing me this.
And he may have grossed, what, $400 million or something like that?
At minimum.
That's sick.
No, that's fucked up.
That's crazy.
The fact that Lear just said that with such confidence, like, why wouldn't I want to keep him on for 60 grand?
As a businessman, yeah, he would.
Absolutely.
Like, we understand the business, man, but it's like, that's fucked up.
business. And I'm not saying good business in the way for keeping all the money. You're not
going to keep someone happy that way. So it's bad business. It is bad business. And it turned out
to be bad business. But either way, murder Inc. Doc on BETT. Today is national relaxation day.
I did not know that. Had I known that, I wouldn't be here. Same. So y'all tricked me.
Because, Edding, you're supposed to know these things. I feel like you know what National
Relaxation Day is. I'm so sorry. I've never seen any of you plant a tree on Arbor Day.
Is that what you're supposed to do on Arbor Day? I think so. Right? Right. Yes.
Oh no.
Why did your brain retain a sentence?
What school did you go to?
Because we didn't have that.
They didn't teach us that.
Jersey.
I don't know what day Arbor Day is, nor do we plant a tree.
I'm just saying with holidays that y'all keep bringing up.
You don't celebrate them.
Arbor Day?
You don't celebrate Valentine's.
You don't celebrate Halloween.
I celebrate Valentine's Day.
He's a loving God of.
I go get dark chocolate and fucking light candles in the crib.
That's a small.
Yeah, come on.
You do that every day, mall.
There you go.
Never switch up.
Consistency.
There you go.
Call back.
So the way like five.
No, that's cool.
So like the way single mothers say Jesus is, is their baby father, like to you that's
Who's single baby mothers?
Nobody says Jesus is my man?
Single baby mothers.
Yeah, they always say that.
They love getting that all.
You know, stop posting pictures at your baby shower without the baby father.
Why?
Why?
That's fucking stupid.
Why?
It's fucking stupid.
Let's just say it.
It's all right for us.
It's stupid.
Why is it stupid?
What if he ain't.
shit. Matter of fact, if you don't
know where you're... Oh, now's a great time to say
that your baby father ain't shit. Oh, now that you're pregnant.
What's the point of a baby shower? To get gifts. Come on. It's not to celebrate.
Baby showers to celebrate people fucking. You know how it is.
For sure. To get gifts. So if the father's definitely not around,
I definitely need some gifts.
We should celebrate more when the father's not around.
Yeah, but we don't have to come together to celebrate.
You'll send them shit to my crib.
Amazon the gifts to my crib.
People do that now anyway, because they don't want to carry a bunch of gifts home.
you listen just registry have it delivered to the house.
And a lot of baby showers were originally just supposed to be women.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, that changed.
That got weird.
Well, we only got invited, men's only got invited to the baby showers to take the gifts home.
Right.
True.
And then somebody decided to go inside and get a plate and was like, yo, it's mad bitches in there, y'all.
They're like, yo, I don't know if y'all niggas know.
It's a whole basement full of bitches.
Like, we might want to go in there.
It might have been the gay bestie that told all the straight men.
For sure.
You know what's going on in there.
Yeah, like it's fried chicken, baked mac of cheese and bitches.
It's a bunch of women with baby fever.
Absolutely.
And they're probably ovulating.
Yeah.
Drunk, wine flowing, you know, the sanguas.
We all love sanguaries at baby showers.
Jesus Christ.
Is Meg the Stallion allowed to play at the baby shower?
Am I?
No, the baby shower that the baby father's not at.
I must have not been that wet.
I'm scared to know.
I was trying to find out.
Yeah, just unplug that.
You don't need that for the rest of the day.
Don't worry about that.
Yeah, but it's national relax.
relaxation day.
So I'm going to ask everybody here, starting with Baby D.
What is your favorite way to relax?
How do you relax?
What does Baby D do when she has nothing else to do but relax?
Never mind.
Ed.
Turn my room into a barbers shop.
But listen.
Excuse me?
Vibrator makes sounds like the vibrator sounds like clippers.
I've never put those.
I've never put those two things.
No, she's nasty.
Now I'm about to get a haircut and think of a vibe.
Yeah.
I've never thought about that before.
Flicking the bean when she's fucking in her fucking.
Flicking the bean.
She's baby D's at home flicking the bean.
Yeah.
This is who's here with us.
You're not about beating off in all types of wild shit.
We do no such thing.
Not on relaxation day.
We don't touch ourselves.
Right.
That's not how we relax.
Right.
Who said that?
You're nasty.
I was going through TSA with a young woman who brings vibrators with her on her carry on her carry on her carry.
Shut up to her.
Vic.
First, let's stop right there.
Bringing a vibrator on a carrier.
She should be next to Britney Grinders, which she should be.
What woman has a vibrator in her carry-on?
Me?
They should be put her on the bottom bunk of Britney
and let Britney's legs hang down next to her fucking-
And I was stressed out in the Ruth's Picnic Hotel Room
and I had checked remember we were like, no, I don't check out
and left my key and my key and my vibrator in the Roos Picnic hotel room
Stress the fuck out.
That's why we're not invited back to Philly because they're finding vibrators and shit in the room.
So I was with her going through TSA and I knew for, I knew that she
she had the vibrator in there.
And we hear that same notes.
They're going to take you in,
you her and Brittany.
And as long as we keep the vibrator,
I'm cool.
That's my,
that's my teammate.
We hear the vibration.
No,
don't tell me that.
When it comes through
and they were like asking
whose bag it was.
And we didn't see
which bag it was yet.
We just knew it was our area of bags.
And thank God it ended up
being my electric razor
because I tapped her and said,
your vibrator is going crazy right now.
Listen.
It was my electric razor.
Did you feel like a fool knowing it was your...
No, I was relieved because I didn't want to see...
A vibrate being pulled out?
Pull this out and have it just hanging like this.
Who's this?
It's mine, sir.
You took the rap?
No, it was actually my electric razor.
It wasn't.
Oh, it wasn't the vibrator.
Yeah, it was just in our area of bags.
Oh, okay.
All right, that was smart to plant your clipper right next to the vibrator and throw it off.
There you go.
Like, I put my baby powder next to my cocaine and get it off at the same time.
Sure. Yeah, sure. Whatever works.
To answer your question on my days of relaxation, I put my phone on Do Not Disturb so that y'all cannot contact me and I cozy up in my bed and watch TV.
That I just notify anyways every single time when it's for the nice.
Eddn't hits notify anyways. Binner hits notify anyways. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck.
I didn't even know it was a button. Yep. Yeah. You can hit like it will say so-and-so has do not disturb on and you can put notify anyways.
Wait. Wait. Whoa. Okay, hold on. Slow down. You can tell when somebody has do not.
disturb them. Yeah, look at my messages right now. Yeah, that is a new thing. Why are they doing that?
So you, I mean, you could put it so it doesn't show, but I definitely would. Oh, okay. But I like
people to know that I'm not ignoring you, but I'm ignoring you. I appreciate that type of thing.
I'm just that way. Because I always wanted iPhones to do like the way away messages were with
aim. I was like, why can't we do that with text messages? They do that. Like you can't say I'm
driving right now. I can't text. Like, I've seen. But cars do that. Like, why can't I put an away
message on my I message? Hey, not by my phone. I'll get back to you when I can. Yeah.
Because I would set that 24 hours out of the day.
Yeah, but then you'll snitching.
See, that's the thing.
No, people started doing that.
So that's why people don't respect do not disturb now anymore.
And that's why I notify anyways.
Like, your phones I do not disturb at 12 o'clock in the afternoon.
Like, I'm going to keep, or, you know, if you call twice, it'll go through a second time.
Right.
I think that's disrespectful that he did that.
Because I would respect your do not disturb.
Rory, I promise you.
Are you lying?
Are you lying?
You don't just.
You don't respect.
I've seen it before and I've not continued to text.
Okay.
I think he's lying.
What do I know?
Roy, how do you relax?
You light this candle right here?
I don't.
Like this candle right here?
You lay right here?
Is this what you relax at?
No, because you guys have sullied up this beautiful couch.
Sullyed?
You guys have sullied up to this.
I don't even know what that means.
I just know it means you ruined something.
Oh, man.
This beautiful couch that I bought and this rug is now fucking ruined.
It looks great.
I just did a cleaning service for next week.
You tell us been some asses in these couches.
Do you not, never not.
relax. I know I did like triple, triple negatives there. Yeah, I'm always, I'm always relaxed.
How do you not relax is what I'd like to be? How do I not relax? Because I know how you
relaxed. How do you turn up? How do I turn up? Yeah. Just answer my phone for family. It's always some
drama. Some apple juice. Oh my God. That's when it's going to be lit. You see one of your cousins
you ain't talked to in a while text you. You like, let me see what's going on.
Yo, what's good. Yo, auntie got gout. This nigga got stabbed. I'm like, all right, you know what? I'll talk to y'all. I'll talk to y'all. I'll talk to y'all. I'll talk to y'all niggas later.
It's great.
Yeah, it's just like, I don't, don't text me this shit, man.
Leave me alone, man.
Like creating the bath is my relaxation.
And then once I get in the bath, I'm like, well, time to get out.
Oh, that's kind of like heroin addicts.
They like cooking it up.
That's the whole high.
I was going to say with actually cooking.
It's the same thing, too.
I don't even really care for the meal.
It's just making it.
And then it tastes good.
I'm like, yes.
Cooking is the way I relaxed too.
And, Roy, I think you too.
Oh, yeah, cooking for sure.
It's very relaxing.
Cleaning.
I like cleaning, too.
That's a relaxation for me.
I just say you don't get bitches
It's all good
I don't
I like cleaning
I like cooking
Okay
I don't
This guy got neutered
Or I don't believe in gender roles
You misogynistic pig
I do
I do too
Barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen
I love it
When are you gonna spray your DNA
In somebody man
I don't know my god
Rice Roy
I'm gonna find an ovulating woman
This weekend
And roll the dice
On Friday, stage 48
We're in there.
That's just wrong.
We shouldn't say that.
Where are we going next?
I'm sorry.
We could clean some.
Trump?
What about Trump?
Don't clean any up.
What happened with Trump?
The nuclear codes.
Oh, that's what he stole?
Yeah.
He got the codes, bro.
Okay.
In his defense.
Yeah, go ahead.
He's trying to defend us.
In his defense, he's trying to defend America.
No, he's not.
You're going to kill us?
If I were to steal anything from the White House,
I'm still in the code.
I take a close.
Oh, 1,000 percent.
I'm still.
the code. This won't be the last you see of me.
I'll have the last say,
watching see. That's some evil villain.
If you force me out of the White House and I'm like,
oh, I got elected.
Yeah, I'm taking the codes. Absolutely.
Maybe he didn't want Sleepy Joe to have the codes.
Joe don't know what I'm codes.
He don't have, Joe don't know what's going on.
Like, I get it.
Do you ever just look at Joe Biden?
This is one of my favorite things is just watching.
No, I don't.
Like, he's, yo, he is completely.
He is completely.
clueless. He don't know what's going on, like, at all. He has no idea what the fuck is going on.
And we're in the, you know, that's what I had to tell you about. Do y'all know that they keep changing
the meaning of the word recession? Yes. Did you know that? Recession is gender at this point.
Why did you tell me this? That is the, that's not crazy to you? Because I don't want to talk
politics with you because I think everyone's crazy. No, but that's not funny to you.
That's like, look what they're doing. They're changing the word recession so that we don't realize
and know that we're currently in a recession right now. Definitely.
that's not crazy to y'all yeah pretty crazy that's scary i'm not surprised it's scary like yo though they're
changing the definition of a word so that people don't feel like we're in it i don't know if it was
biden's actual verified twitter account or someone attached to it or the one that writes for it put out
like his accomplishments thus far with his term and it really said gas prices on there this is where
i just gave up on just like everything i'm like you y'all really are just playing in our faces yeah
They are. They're having a great time. Because you know whatever team were on will champion whatever you say.
Listen, man, God love America. God bless America. I was reading that Agent Brona was supposed to fight this weekend. But he's pulled out of the fight and he is blaming mental health as not blaming, but he's saying that mental health is the reason why. So the report says, man, I'm going through a lot at this moment in my life. But I ain't, I ain't going to give up.
I set some more goals and I ain't stopping until I finished what I started.
But sorry to say this, but I'm not fighting August 20th.
I guess what's he supposed to fight the 20th.
Yeah, man.
Prayers to Adrian Brone.
I hope he's okay.
Unlike a lot of you guys, I don't use mental health as a buffet.
If that's what he says, then I respect him.
I believe him.
If he's saying his mental health is the reason why he won't fight this weekend,
you have to be mentally sharp to step in the ring and fight.
So I understand.
also say, though, at the height of his career, when he was knocking people out, he did do an interview.
And they said, hey, you go to the club a lot and you visibly get drunk on camera a lot.
And his response was, yeah, but I jog home from the club, though.
Yeah.
Focus.
Sharp.
Razor shark.
But anyway, hopefully he gets his mental health right and he gets back in the ring soon.
I was looking forward to that fight this weekend.
Who was it with?
I didn't even know Bruner was fighting.
I forgot.
I just wanted to see Adrian fight.
I'm rude for him.
I like Adrian Bruner.
but it is what it is.
Do you?
Yeah.
I like Agent Rowland.
I don't know as a person, so I can't.
No, not as a person.
I'm talking about as a fighter.
I don't like any people.
You don't like nobody, mom.
No.
I don't know who you know.
You might have been to fucking dinner with AB mad times.
No, I haven't never been at dinner with A.B.
Both A.
Tonya Brown?
No.
Antonio Brown I would go to dinner with, though.
Absolutely.
Put that shit on.
What's that shit, baby D?
Put that shit on.
That shit, how I put that shit.
to add the DJ drop to the record
because that's what made the hook.
Yeah.
I mean, I liked Adrian Bruner as a fighter
for, I don't know, maybe two or three fights
and then he became who he is now.
And I don't, we're only talking about fighting.
Yeah.
I don't know him personally.
Y'all like each other?
Do we what?
Y'all like each other.
Who?
Me and Adrian Broner?
No, you own boy.
Do we like each other?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Weird question.
Yeah, why is that?
No, I'm asking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what you mean.
Yeah.
Well, let me ask.
Do you like me?
Yeah.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
I wouldn't take him on a date or nothing like that, but I like him.
I'm glad to take him.
I mean, he's not my type and that way.
I wouldn't like hold hands with him.
What do you mean?
She's not my type.
What's your type?
A friend.
Oh, you're saying friend.
Because, I mean, I'm into hips, but his are just, I don't think I can handle it.
Thank you so much.
He's just not my type in that regard.
This is the new Rory-M-A-M-A-M-S-ha.
That shit is crazy that job just keep talking about.
What the fuck is up with y'all in my hips?
It's fucking weird.
I know what.
what I'm capable of and those hips just
they don't lie. It's just a lot.
Listen, man.
What's going to?
I just wouldn't want to disappoint them.
I don't even give a fuck what you doing for the rest of the week.
Listen, man, this has been another episode of the New Rory
and Mall podcast.
We are going on tour.
I have a lot of live shows coming up.
September 18th, we are in Chicago.
Yes.
I would ask Ed in to pull up the rest of the dates, but it doesn't matter.
Tickets available now at new Roryn Mall.
That's where the dates are at.
New Rorynmall.com.
And you can just put it right here at it. Boom.
Right there.
Tori dates, bow, right there.
Woo, there you go.
On the YouTube.
September 18th, Chicago, September 23rd, Washington, D.C., October 2nd,
Charlotte, November 5th, London, November 13th,
Atlanta, November 19th, Dallas, November 20th,
Rory's favorite hometown, Houston, Texas, December 9th, Seattle,
December 11th, where Rory's ancestors are from Portland, Oregon.
December 18th, where Rory was born at, Boston, Massachusetts.
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Come out meet Rory's family in Boston, Portland, Seattle,
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All right.
Are there Irish people in Portland?
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah.
There probably is.
Absolutely.
Unfortunately, I have no family in Boston.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Are you kidding me?
Wow.
Let me look at my 23 of me.
I'm sure if I look at my 23.
You have plenty of cousins that's coming out to Boston at the Wilbur.
I wish I was born in Boston.
Yeah, at the Wilburne.
I think I would have been a really good Bostonian.
I got the face for it.
Yeah, you got the face for it.
Nice and racist.
Absolutely.
I'd definitely like a Wilbur.
Absolutely.
Tickets available at new Roryanmall.com.
Get them now.
We'll see y'all on the road.
Can I make the same jokes about mall and Atlanta or no?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got family in Atlanta.
Definitely, Charlotte, too.
Yeah, definitely got.
Oh, God.
You know every drug dealer from Harlem move to Charlotte.
Absolutely.
Ducking those indictments.
I know where y'all at.
I know where you're hiding.
Half of North Carolina is just uptown.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So yeah, get your tickets now or not.
Fuck us.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
If you don't want to come see us, don't come see us.
We'll be there anyway.
DM me.
I'll tell you guys.
Oh, God.
Look at this one.
Yeah, DM her.
If you pay me enough.
No, we're staying at right?
No, where you staying at?
Nah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What do we know about Southside musical in Dallas?
I don't know.
What do we know about that?
It's just, I don't know.
Southside makes me nervous no matter what.
I mean, that's what Lloyd wanted you to meet him at.
So it seems like a great.
No, that was you in Atlanta with your family.
That was definitely me and that.
No, we're at Center State in Atlanta.
Southside Music Hall of Dallas.
Okay.
You know, Irv surprised her at that video set, too.
Bought her some flowers?
Didn't even know you were coming.
Oh, Irv, wasn't expecting you.
Y'all are sick.
Yo, listen, man, we get out of here, though.
We'll talk to you all this week.
Have fun. Be safe.
I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace.
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