New Rory & MAL - Episode 98 | Meek Mill Asked Quentin Miller For Lyrics

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

Finally. Quentin Miller, the infamous ghostwriter who rose to viral fame after being named as a writer for Drake, speaks his own truth... after 7 years of silence. He speaks on his career as a writer, his relationship with Meek Mill, how he lost his leg, + more in this exclusive interview with Rory & Mal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No, no, no, no, no. Okay. You wasn't in the studio getting that off? Man, I would have been right at the party like, yo. You know that's my source. All that sauce, all that flavor you're here right there. That's me. You know, I'm the chef.

I'm going to see her rapping along like, oh, you like those lyrics. You like that, right? You're talking like me now. This conversation was something that I've been wanting to have. And, you know, but I told Quentin when he was ready. So we finally here. It's a pleasure to finally meet you in person and get to sit down and kick it with you. Same, same.

It's a lot that, a lot of personal questions that I've always had that I wanted to ask you. But I wouldn't want to do that. over the phone. I wanted to be face to face. But first and foremost, how you been, man? I'm good, man. Yeah. Staying in the live. I hear you.

I hear you. Life is eyes. Easy joke there. I'm just, I want to leave it alone. Very easy joke right there. It's too easy. Do you know the TikTok dance? No, I don't.

Okay. Good. So what's been going on, man? How is Quentin Miller doing as of today? How are you? Man, I'm good, man. I'm solid. I'm just staying busy, man, just trying to stay at it, you know. Making songs has moved my life, my whole life, you know what I'm saying? So I just try to just trust in the process

and just keep making songs. I don't even know the Quentin Miller, like, backstory. Because obviously you don't do a lot of press and, you know, when all that shit hit the fan, I understandably so kind of just took a break from the spotlight. Where does the story even begin? What a, The short version of it is I'm a homeschool kid from Metro Atlanta. Not Atlanta. Not Atlanta. Amaretta does not think you're from Atlanta. Only she's from Atlanta.

Only Amarana is from Atlanta. And my church is this producer named Sounds. Their family went to the same church as my family. And he was signed to Usher. He later on produced Osamore for Racial. Now he's BMW Kenny. He made a TikTok song to wipe it down or whatever. Like, shout out, BMW Kenny, man.

He brought me in the game. And from there, he got signed a Tricky Stewart. Shout to Triton. He got signed to Tricky Stewart. And so he brought me over there. And so my first experience over there, I was signing with them. And, you know, the dream used to come through. He used to come out and be like, yo, come out.

Check out my Ferrari, man. Check this out, man. It's a pretty good impression. Sitting that front seat, man. I want you to feel what it's like, you know what I'm saying? Shout out the dream, man. He was a big inspiration for me. But so, yeah, I was there.

And then they dropped me out of nowhere. I don't really think in hindsight, I have more clarity of what went on. But either way, I was screwed. Who else was with him at that time? With Tricky Stewart and Dream. So when I got signed with Tricky, originally I remember

we were all in a van it was me Frank Ocean who was Lonnie Bro at the time and a couple of other artists and I was over there with Frank and them before Frank you know turned into Frank like and you know that was an interesting time I really that situation

people only really know the Drake stuff but they don't know about that situation I, you know, the dream and tricky were on fire, you know, like, they were the hottest of the game. And they look like me, you know? And I trusted them. And when they dropped me for the stupid-ass reason that they dropped me, really just squawed me over. But they didn't drop my publishing.

They just, like, I was like a tagged animal. It was like, they dropped me but kept my publishing. That shit broke me. That shit. That shit hurt. So you said in hindsight you understand it more than that. Like, so what was the reason? I have an idea of what may have went on.

Obviously, I can't, you know, say for sure. But yeah, that shit, that shit really fucked me up, man. And I thought it was over with from there, you know? And so I'm like three years, like, just, you know, working Target, working publics, working all these places. And one day I just, I remember the crazy thing, because I met Boy Wanda through Tricky. So it's like I never would have met Boy Wanda if it wasn't for that situation.

But I just sent a random Hail Mary text to Boy Wanda, and the shit worked. Shout to Boy Wanda. He's on, that's family. That's my guy, man. So were you signed as an artist or was it just writing? I was signed as an artist. And, you know, it was just like, you know, we're not going to do it unless you do a posturing. I don't really need a postion.

I'm just like. this is the dream. He's on fire. What the fuck? Like, this is a dream and tricky. Like, I'm with them. They brought me to Vegas. I watched the dream work on Fancy. Right. I watched it. Right. I'm like, this is what I'm supposed to do. You want to be around this. You know what I'm supposed to go? Like, I'm going to.

Was Frank in a similar deal as you at that time? I'm not too familiar. You know, because he was in California. I was in Atlanta. We would just see each other when they would have these little gatherings or anything. But, you know, like, I'm not familiar with his deal. I don't really see them super clicked up either. What was being homeschooled and then transitioning to go to Vegas with the dream? Like, what does that feel like? Man, it was, like I said, it was just like reassuring.

It was like, yeah, like, you know, the whole point of me rapping when I was home school is because it was just like, okay, I'm not around people. But when I get around people, they're going to hear me rap and they're going to be like, oh, you know what I'm saying? So I just, it was just affirmation. And like, yeah, like, this is what I'm supposed to do. Like, now the only thing I was confusing is because it was an R&B camp. It was all R&B pop, R&B pop.

I was the only one there that was rap. So I didn't know what I was supposed to get from that. I felt like I got an understanding of melody. The dream, I learned a lot from just watching the dream. He has a freedom to his creative process that, like, yeah, shout out of the dream. So you were straight, rapy, rapy. at that time because I feel like even your music now is so melodic-based.

Man, listen. So I'm rapy rap because they're just elegant, rich niggish shit, you know what I'm saying? So they're all like rapy-rap. So I'm like listening to Watch the Throne and Jay-Z and I'm just like trying to just do shout of Jay-Z, no negative.

You know what I'm saying? But I'm just trying to just do this high-level rap shit. Even though I don't really have much of a story, you know, I'm just rapping, you know? Oh, no, you got a story. Well, at the time I did. Okay.

And so when I got dropped, it's crazy because the beauty of it, I was able to catch the SoundCloud wave in Atlanta. Totally deprogram my idea of making the perfect raps. Because I'm seeing these young dudes, like the two nines and shit, just making shit. And then they're going out and the city fucking with them. And they're just being young and being themselves, you know what I'm saying? It just changed my direction. It just made me want to, you know, make some soft. Who else was up and coming in Atlanta at that time, like your peers?

My peers, in Atlanta, the two-nines, the OGGs, you know, shout out to OG, man, Theo, Bluetooth, everybody. The Jid and them. Earth gang. You know what I'm saying? Like, they, it was all, we was all department store babies in some form of way. I don't know, you know, y'all can look that up. Yeah. It was an interesting time, man. And it was fun.

And, like, it made me want to be a part of it. It made me want to compete. You know, like, I went from thinking like, damn, it's over with it. And then I'm seeing that. So that gave me a little bit of like, you know, but it's still just, you know, that was just something I was doing on the side, you know. But then my boy wanted to hail me. What was the text?

Yo. That's how it always thought. Yo. So many great things. Yeah. So many great things have come after the yo. always starts with a yo. Yeah.

It was a yo and it was a, hey man, can I send you some songs? I didn't even, you know, I'm just like, I just have songs. I just have songs. So that's such an interesting way to navigate. Like, yo, I just got songs, man. That's all I ever had, man. That's all I ever had my whole life is songs. I just make songs and stuff happens.

And by the way, I think 0.001% is, yo, can I send you some songs ever? work. It never works. But I guess, you know, maybe he liked what he heard when I had met him, you know, in that one session, you know, that did come from Tricky. I can't. And I mean, if Tricky and Dream admire your pen, most producers, like me, I was up with this kid then?

Let me hear something. Yeah. I mean, man, it was, it wasn't all bad, but, you know, I just didn't like how, like, they just, I really put my, my faith in, in hopes in them, you know what I was young. They knew I knew what I was doing. And then even when they were, anyway, we'll get to it. But it seems like that's always the part of the story somewhere.

Like young, aspiring writers, artists, you know, coming in this industry early, not really knowing the business and the nuances of, you know, how things go. But like you said, you're sitting there watching the dream. The way I got dropped, so I was with our situation that I had, with Tricky, I guess he brought it over to Epic. And so now I'm signed to Epic, even though I'm not signed to Epic. Like, I'm not on the website and I didn't meet nobody. And so anyway, I'm in Atlanta.

They just let me record. I'm thinking he just let me record in the studio because he wants me to get better. No, he has your publishing, so. I'm like, damn, man, he really wants me to, he wants us to work. He wants us to work. He wants us to work. sharper, you know. And so I'm trying my hardest or whatever.

So after like several months of that, and then I go out to L.A. And it was an A&R epic. He's done now. L.A. fired everybody before, you know what I'm saying? So, but anyway, he was like a head of A&Rs. He brought me to this session. Long story short, it was someone else's a session, but I was working on Mike Will. And we were working on a song, like, literally like, I got my phone out, like, working on a song, whatever.

and bro came and brought me out he was like man I need to talk to you I need to talk to you he was like man I just don't feel like you a star man I just don't feel like and then plus like you know this is the dream

no this is the A&R oh okay that wasn't even with Tricky okay so anyway I'm like bro can you like just let me do my session can you leave? He was like oh so you gonna kick the head

of A&R's out of your session and I'm like Well he's telling you he doesn't think you're a star in the middle of your yeah bro in the middle of the shit I'm like, bro, I'm like, I'm just, can you go? So anyway, long story, sure he hits Tricky. I'm in here trying to become a star.

Shut the fuck up. Yeah, bro, yeah. So then Tricky just hits me and he's just like, yo, you're not Red Zone. You're not epic. You're not nothing. You're going back. They sent my shit back. They made me wait like three, four weeks before I could get my car back.

That was fucked up, man. Y'all, y'all don't know. I was young, man. That hurt, man. That hurt. But wait, they, okay. So he came in your session and who the head of ANR was at Epic at that time. Yeah, like you're not.

No, anyone said that nigga name. But I know his name. Wait. Of course I remember his name. It wasn't Shaw, was it? Huh? No, no, no. Okay.

God was sick. Shia, I was at an A&R epic. But that's just such a... That's just such a... All right, so he didn't think you were a star. You're in the middle of your session. To interrupt your session to tell you, I don't think you're a star. And obviously, you're an artist.

You say, yo, listen, I just want to... Can you get out of my session? Let me just focus on this. Then he was offended that after him to leave the session. Right. And then you dropped after that. Some real, like, ego shit, man. And then you said Tricky called you after that?

Yeah, he called me. It called me. Because dude had left and I'm in the session. Then he's like, you ain't this, you ain't that. Now I got to walk back in the session. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, man. That shit was crazy, bro.

And they thought I was going to be done. And they thought I was going to be done. So no other context. Just like, yo, you're not a star. But maybe they didn't think I was going to be done because they still have my publishing. So maybe it was like, hey. Did you have management at the time? I did.

Who was your manager, if you don't mind, me asking? I don't want to say. Okay. That's fair. So now they drop you from that situation, Epic, even though you say you wasn't on the website. You never met nobody from Epic, really. Well, he met the head of ANR. Well, the head of A&R you met.

So after that, where's Quentin Miller now? So now I'm back. And the person that was my manager, I'm like, hey, what are we going to do? And he's like, hey, you should, uh, wait and see if Tricky, and I'm gonna fuck with you again. And I'm like, man, I just, nah, I gotta do something else. And then, you know, we kind of parted ways on there. And then I'm just, I'm just working.

And I'm just, so I link up with the, because during the time with Tricky, man, I link with Mack from Wedding Crashers or whatever through other people. But, so we're just going through Atlanta and we're just performing this shit. But, yeah, really the boy wonder situation. while I'm just performing in Atlanta and just, you know, getting off work, doing little mixers and shit. But that just kind of just... So that's when you and Boy Wonder started to work?

It was like after I got dropped like two, three years later, after I got dropped where I like sent the text and then from there he was like, all right, send me some shit. I sent some shit. He was like, yo, he was working with Obie at the time. O'Brie. Shout to Oby. How fucking Oby. O'B was a cool dude. He had a record. What's the name of that joint?

What was it? The song? It was with the girl. It was a good record. Was it Tunisional? It might have been, yeah. O'B had a few. He had a joint with Drake that was fired too.

Yeah. I like O'B O'Brien. It was cool, man. He was cool as fuck, man. But yeah, I was working with him first, and then from there, I guess, I went back to Atlanta, and they got word. they got word. It was like, send some more. I sent him bands.

To Boy Wonder. Was that a Boy Wonder beat? I believe so. Or it's one that went to send. So he was just sending you packs of just Boy Wondon to Bees. Yeah. Like after, you know, I guess he liked the songs that I sent and he just starts sending me beats. I'm just firing up ideas.

Now what your publishing situation at this point, because you said he were helping out with the oldie shit and all that. I was still signed. That all has to go through tricky anytime you and one to even want to try to put something. But we hadn't even got to that part yet. You know what I'm saying? We just like, he knows about it though. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

But it's just like, you know, one just is a good dude. And he's just like, you know, send me some shit. We'll just see what we can do, you know? And so, yeah, we're just firing off. And then Tim Bands goes. And he's like, yo, Drake is fucking with 10 bands, man. He's going crazy over it. I'm like, oh, shit.

Mm-hmm. I sent him bands to a couple of my friends. Now, I didn't know what a reference track was at this time. And at that point, you were just making a record. I was just making songs. And plus, when he said it, I'm thinking, Drake's going to get on it. So I'm like, I'm not leaking, you know what I'm saying?

And then later, I was sent a clip, and it was Drake saying it. And I was like, oh, all right, well, hey. Yeah. And at this point, I feel like Drake was hopping on younger artist shit and giving them looks. That was around that time. Right. Even with, even with like the Fetty shit, the Miko shit, the Mconi shit. I'm about to turn up and he was just, he was going to be in the department store and they're going to be like, oh, that's thing.

Yeah. He was hopping. I could totally understand your perspective there thinking that that would be a possibility that Drake would hop on it. He did that with the Migos of Versacee, right? That was, did that. He did with Fetty Wap, Mconan the Tuesday record. There was more than it. He was hopping on shit.

So that was your thought at first. You thought, oh, shit, I'm about to have a record with Drake. I'm about to be on a song with Drake. I'm about to be lit. Got you. Okay. And how much of 10 bands is done at this point? The hook and a verse?

Or you did a full record? What the league was? It's literally what it was. Okay. You know what I'm saying? It was just a... So I start to a record. You know what I'm saying?

Just a start up. And yeah. So then I find out it's not. It was like, okay. You know, whatever. I just, you know, send more ideas. more ideas start to go. The next thing you know, it's like, I'm flown out.

But the funny thing is, the ironic thing, the 10 bands reference that, like I said, I sent to a couple of my friends. One of my home girls used the 10 bands reference. She knew Canon and Drama. Okay. My friend, Quentin, da-da-da-da. Now they're fucking with us.

We come through, me and wedding crashes, And that was the genuine part. They genuinely fuck with wedding crashes. You know what I'm saying? Like they weren't like, nah, we just want to fuck with Quinn Miller. Like they was rocking with us. So it's like if it weren't for that,

then that connection wouldn't have happened. So now I'm going out to L.A. And I'm working with Drake Moore. I play him winning crashes. Nods. Nothing happens. Okay. I play him, Quentin Miller.

Nothing happens. all right, okay. But DJ Drama and I was fucking with us in Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, when I come back to Atlanta, I'm on this. You know what I'm saying?

So it was like that was what the dynamic was. Mind you, this has me in a state of euphoria because I'm like, I got dropped. I thought it was over with. And now I'm fucking

with the biggest artist in the world and DJ drama and canon, they fuck it with the group. that I was also doing. Right. And the city's fucking with us because we're performing

off streams and they turning up. Yeah, so you just figured like everything was falling in the place. Things was looking up. Yes, bro. So you was feeling like, okay, this is becoming the thing now. I'm walking in the department store

with OVO goose is on. These shits ain't even came out. In August. They didn't even come out. In Atlanta. Niggas, that shit ain't even come out. Yeah. They like, what?

They think I'm just a fan or something. Yeah. No. I'm tapped in. I'm tapped in. It's 100% polyester. Yeah. From the source.

So when you're out here in L.A., is there talk or focus that, hey, we're working on this album? Or is it just the way some artists just get in the studio and make shit until- If you're reading this? Yeah. Is there a full idea that, hey, we are focused on making an album now or we just trying shit? We're definitely focused on the album. Okay. We'll definitely focus on the album.

And at that point, yeah, we're definitely focused on the album. And at that point. 10 bands would be the only one that we have heard or anything that came out that time. Yeah, so then you fast forward a little more and we get around

Rico time. I think I'm in the studio in Atlanta, right? Drake and them like just to send ideas. And at this time, Drake's not taking, he's not taking nothing. Like, I'm sending shit and nothing's fine, you know?

I'm just using the time. to make other songs that I, you know, for myself, whatever, you know, if he don't take it, I'll send a few out of it. So you're in the studio in L.A.? In Atlanta. In Atlanta. And I believe this was after the album had dropped, you know what I'm saying? Because we were just, we were just on a place, we just had a rapport. Yeah.

And they're sending beats for you to work on his shit. Just, you know, just anything. You know what I'm saying? So I'm sending shit. He's not taking shit. I'm sending shit. He's not taking shit. And I make this one idea, which is Rika. And I'm like, he ain't going to take this shit.

Right. Right? So I pull up because I would go from there to drama. You know what I'm saying? I would go from that studio, pull up my own generation now, Mean Street or whatever. And me and drama, man, we were tight, man. We used to talk about all kinds of shit, just music and just all the time just texting each other and shit.

So I sent him the Rico song. And, you know, just like, hey, man, this is a song I made, whatever. And he was fucking with it. Who did the Rigo beat? I don't remember. It was in a pack of beats. Gotcha. But, uh, so then, like, a few, like a week later or something, something,

John was like, yo, you know that song? Meek got on that song. And I'm like, for real? He's like, yeah. And I'm like, oh, I didn't even know that Drake did the song. I didn't even know he was going to take the song, you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. But it says meat got on the song.

So then fast forward I'm in Mean Street Drama comes over Hey yo Meek wants you to write some shit for him I'm like Nah

Like Wait meke wants you to write a record for him He wants me to write a hook or something He wants me to write for him Okay I'm like I'm good Why? Why didn't you not I'm with Drake?

I don't give a fuck by Okay So in that During that time, yeah. I was like, I'm OVO. Like, look, no. But at that time, they had a good, though. They had a good relationship.

They weren't beefing. So I just, I don't know. I just felt like, mm, nah. You feel like I'm with Drake? I was already on, like. I got the OVO gooses on, like, y'all niggas ain't sent me a dream chaser hat. I'm not kidding.

I ain't got a dream chaser hat. Like, I'm not fucking with that. I'm okay with the way that life is taking me right now. Yeah, yeah. I got the wedding crash of shit going on. Yeah. I know Quinn Miller's shit is going to do its thing at its own point. and I got this going on over here.

And I don't know. It was just something about the energy for real. Like something about the energy of it. At that point, did you have a meat, meat, me? No, at this point I hadn't met me. So they asked me, I'm like, no, no, I'm good. I think I'm going to just. Was that the first time you'd ever been asked to write outside of the Drake shit

and your shit obviously? Okay. Did that cross your mind? At this time, nobody knew. But because of the song, I'm sure, knowledge. People were aware of that. Yeah. Yeah.

talking. And so then some time goes on. I'm in the studio. Oh, I come to Mean Street. It's drama standing next to Meek and Nikki. And like I'm not standing there, they're like, so that's a guy? Yeah, that's a guy. That's a guy. So then drama, man, me and Mac, we was living at Mean Street, man. We made so many songs. drama picks the most Drake-sounding song of mine takes Max verse off. Mac Miller. Mac, no, Max. The coolest Mac from Warcrasters.

There's a Mac. And he plays that. And they're like, yeah, yeah. Then afterwards... Is that record out? Huh? Is that record out? No, no, it's not out.

It's not out. And so then after they play that, you know, we sit there for a second. And then Nikki's like, I need the room. I need people to leave the room. So then everybody leaves the room. So then a few days or whatever after that, I get approached again. Meeks on the other side of the building now. They're like, yo, me, me, say you got, I'm not going to say how much,

he got some racks for you. I'm like, nah. So you don't have to tell tricky. Right, exactly. He's like, he got the racks for you. I'm like, nah, man. So now at this point you turn Meek down twice. This is the second time.

Okay. Is he aware you turned him down the first time? Huh? Is he aware you turned him down the first time? Yeah, yeah. Because this time he offered with cash. Yeah, gosh. And I said, nah.

So then after that, I remember leaving the studio. I get a phone call from drama and he's livid. He's like, how are you not going to do these ideas for me? Like, y'all, I'm just like, you know what I just don't need to do it. I just, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was like a thing. So now I remember hitting Drake and I'm like, yo, this is kind of weird. I explained the whole thing.

So really when bro called it out It wasn't like we was 100% unaware Because it was some weird shit Already happening Here, you know what I'm saying? The and then of course Then know yourself That league came from drama in them too

We in the studio one night And there's a bunch of people there And drama's like, yo man Play one of the shits man play one of those shits And I'm like, man, no, man, nah, man. He's like, nah, no, no, play one of those shit, bro, you good, you good. I play it. He's like, play it one more time, play it one more time.

Play it one more time. If you listen to the know-yourself reference, it's you hear people in the background. Yeah, for sure. It sounds like a- Someone's recording. You know what I was going to ask. Because that's what I was going to ask, because there was the rumor that you sent those references to drama. And I remember hearing it like, no, it sounds like somebody recorded this on the studio.

The only one, only reference I had known for a fact I sent to drama was Rico. But that she wasn't sending it. That even in itself, I didn't even think Drake was going to take it. I was just missing. Everything I was shooting was just not. It wasn't hit. Yeah. I was just like, oh, you know, whatever.

Yeah. But yeah, like, then that was just the one. The one that I just saw having to send over and then it was just like downhill from there. I just think the crazy thing, you know, even from watching drama interview with y'all, it's just like, man, first off, even that video that I did, what, 2019, when I was just like, man, I regret. Because I still believed what drama was telling me when he was like, it wasn't me. We didn't do that shit. We didn't do that shit.

So I'm like, damn, I burnt my relationship with DJ Drama and him for this shit. You know what I'm saying? Only to hear him go on drink champs and say it was him. Yeah. Then he go on your show and he's like, and everybody was pointing the finger at me. But it was you. It was actually you.

He took some accountability, I feel like, in our conversation. Yeah, he took accountability. He said that everybody had a role. He said that there was a lot of other people that had a role in the whole shit. Then he also tried to, like, I just didn't like how he, like, past tense to me. Like, man, it just didn't work out for Clinton.

You know, I'm in a great place. And Drake's been a great place. Both of you guys are in great place. It doesn't have to be that way. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, you know, it is what it is if that's what he wants. But I just felt like it's a little disingenuous. It's a little, it's a little fucked up.

You feel like you got the raw end of the deal. I feel like I got the wrong end of the deal and they all know it. And they're like, oh, man. So sorry. I'm like, but I'm okay. on my ear, though, you know what I'm saying? Like, make it right if you want to make it right. Right.

Right. Like, did you, once the leak happens with, know yourself or was it re- which, which leak happened first? I think know-yourself was the first one if I remember correctly. I feel like they all kind of came out at the same time. First, first meeks said my name on Twitter. I remember. And then.

With no context either. Just he wrote your government name. Yeah. It was just that. And then I can't remember the order of the leaks, but I remember Fung Master Flex running them back a bunch of times. I feel like Flex said he had them and then didn't. I remember waiting by the radio for like two hours and Flex claimed he had them and then they were never played. And then I think on the meek response to back to back was when we finally heard everything.

But where's your relationship with everybody while this entire mess is happening? And where's your business at with OVO because you're turning down money from me to the loyalty to the camp you're with? Is your business straight with Drake at that point? I'm sure there's obviously writing credits and publishing that you got on it. I walked out of, I turned away from a lot of situations for that. I really, I really beanie see with myself for that. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, that is what it is.

But our relationship is just weird. I don't know where we stand. I feel like it's like a level of resentment towards me. Like, I remember when everything was going down and he hit me, he was like, yo, bro, they're giving you credit for songs that I've worked hours on. And I, da-da-da-da. I'm like, bro, I don't want this shit. Yeah. I'm cool with the songs that I did, like with the songs that I have did.

Like, I'm cool with that credit. Like, I don't, I looked up to this man before I even came into the situation. So it's like, you know, to hear, it was like at one point he's telling me, yo, you know, if it weren't for you, we wouldn't even be able to finish this album. I appreciate you, da-da-da-da. And then you're going on interviews and you're like, you know, Quentin, you know, he's this kid. You know, he had ideas. They aren't great ideas. But, you know, it's like, damn, bro.

Like, y'all intentionally like shedding, you know, you guys are very. very influential. And we know this, you know what I'm saying? You can make anybody hot, you know what I'm saying? You can make anybody not hot. You know, it's just a matter of things, you know? And I just felt like that was strange. And then the fact that, like, he was able to, I don't know,

not even just him, because I have a relationship with drama too. So it's like all of them, like, so all y'all are good with each other now. But nobody, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm the center of the whole. whole shit, you know what I'm saying? But with Meek, everybody's like, oh, man, Meek owes you an apology. Like, bro, I never had a conversation with Meek. So I don't even have any expectations from bro.

Like, I don't, I'm good. I'm good. But you did have expectations from Drake and Drama. Yeah, I have relationships with these dudes. You know what I'm saying? Like, I had, I worked with these guys. And, yeah, I don't know. I just felt like that whole thing was strange.

But did you feel blackballed at that? time or was there labels reaching out or did the heads of A&Rs that actually said maybe you could be a star now? Because it's just like, you know, man, I'm thinking like the phone is just about to just ring off the hook. I'm thinking, you know, anytime anybody's involved with one song with this guy. Word. It's like everything, you know, and it's just like, it just wasn't like that. It's just like, it just didn't happen. It was like, it was strange. I don't want to insinuate anything, but did anything cross your mind know why? Because I would. think the same thing.

I am being credited for huge records by the biggest artist in the world. I would think my phone would start fucking ringing. Exactly. A multitude of things, you know, went by my mind, you know. And then, like, the fucked up part of it all was I was in a publishing deal. So I couldn't even really capitalize on those songs. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Anybody that wasn't in a publishing deal and you get songs like that, you know, your life has changed, you know. but it's just like I just been under the table. Like, I've been in the back door. I came in the game in the back door, and I just been under the table this whole time. So where's the, did you ever have a conversation with Drake after like all of this shit happened? Did you explain the situation?

Like, yo, I didn't, you know, I didn't think you were going to get on this record. That's the only reason I ever even played it for somebody. or did you even have that conversation with him? I ain't going to lie, man. I mean, that conversation, that wasn't even an option. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it was just like, panic, panic. What should I do?

Want me to say something? I'll say something. All right. After I say something, then it was less talking. Then after the fucking meek Nike store situation, then it was like even less talking. And I'm like, bro, literally the man's, said, get on the camera and say, you was lying, you wrote that shit. And I said, nah,

you know what I'm like, damn, bro. Like, I took that shit. So that's what, so that's what they wanted you to do. They wanted you to basically put that out there. Yo, yeah, Drake is lying. I wrote the record. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So with that situation, so crazy, bro. That day was insane. So, I'm about to go to Hit Boys' house, but before I go, I'm like, I'm going to just stop at the Nike store. I go to the Nike store. It was on Wilshire at the time. I get out the Uber.

Paparazzi is across the street. It's just a bunch of paparazzi. I'm like, oh, shit, who is it? Me and meek. Lock eyes. I'm like, oh. Of course. I just turn.

I just turn. I just go in the store. I just go in the store. As I'm turning, I saw one of them, like, waving like, yo, yo, I just keep going. They come into the store. They, you know, hey, yo, man, what's up, man? You know, he says all his shit, like, you're making me look crazy, whatever. And I'm like, bro, like, yeah, yeah.

He's like, yo, I could tell you ain't on no street shit. So I ain't going to do nothing. Then I'm like, all right. And he just does like a quick turnaround. Like a, there's like one of those. And he dips, so I'm thinking we're good. And then his man's came back in with the camera. I found out, and I don't know how true this is, but I found out that that was a

Nicki Minaj call. And if that's the case. Then Nikki sent the camera, do with the camera. No, that when they evaluate, when Meek evaluated, you're not a street, dude, you're not on that street shit. And they dip. I heard when they went back to the car, it was. Nikki that was like, nah, run that.

Listen, bro. I'm a Nicki fan, bro. I always was a Nicki fan. My daughter's a Nicki fan. I'm the president of the Barb's. That was fucked up, man. That was fucked up, man. But do you know it's for a fact, though, or is this?

If that was the case. Because let's not put that on Nikki. That wasn't a lot. I don't want to put that on her jacket. You're right. Yeah. Remember, drama was like, Nikki, did something wrong. But drama wasn't there either.

What was he talking about? I don't know. I wasn't there. But. I hope that wasn't the case. If that was the case, but either way, I put it on me. Either way, I think it was corny that that entire thing happened. But still, finding that out, that hurt even more.

Because it was like, damn, I never even ran, I never ran a conversation with this lady. Like, why did she do that? You know, but. I get it. Yeah. So, anyway, from there, then afterwards, then I pull up the hip boy. I got the fucking busted lip. Travis Scott pulls up.

I'm like, damn, I had to do. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Yes. I had to do the session with you. Travis Scott. Quinn, hold on, bro.

I love you. But hold on. We got it's a lot going on right now. So you go to get some Nike. He just went to get some uptown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

You go to get some Nike's. You see Meek. The paparazzi is there. Nicky's in the car. You in the store. Have a conversation with Meek. His man comes back in with the camera. You say you're not doing it.

That's when his homeboy stole off, stole off on you, swings on you. Pre-purchase or post-purchase? Oh, pre. Wait, so you still stay. after you got to a fight? I don't think I bought anything after that.

I'm about I say you're a different type of niggins. I would have respected if you just took it on the chin and was like, if you were to go through all that and let me get those in 11 and you leaking, you're an alien, my nigga. You're a different type of nigga. But, so then you go to hit boy studio. Then I go to hit boys studio thinking this is going to be a regular day, hit boys. Yeah.

You could have that conversation with head, tell him what just happened. And fucking Travis pulls up. Travis pulls up. And I got the fucking busted lip. Come on, man. This is what y'all did. me. I'm just trying to make my name on here. It would be such a curb your enthusiasm moment. If the episode ended with Travis going up to Quinn and say, I'd like for you to write something for me.

Insert curb music right here. Hey, hey, I heard you're a writer. Damn, Quinn, this is a hell of a day. All right. So now you're at the studio with hit boy and Travis, Busted Live. Are you telling the story in front of Travis as well? Yeah, I mean, yeah, everybody's there. Everybody knows the story, you know? So they're like, yeah, what happened? Yeah, and so... But that was kept under wraps, I feel like I didn't hear about that until you told the story. That fucking Vlad shit, that shit called me off guard. Yeah.

So, man, I didn't even... I feel like tax said it on Vlad. We might have been the first time. Yeah, that's what it was. So, I don't know. They reached out to my man, Cam, and we just so happened to be in New York. And so, you know, it got set up.

I'm like, all right, cool. You know what I go? Man, listen, bro, I was... I was dressing corny. I was goofy back then. But... We all had a home. It's okay.

We'll have coffee moments. It's all good. You know, it's true. It's true. But yeah, man, I was caught off guard. Like, when he showed me that clip and it said that in my mind, I'm thinking, damn, are niggas talking about it? I'm like, well, if niggas is talking about it, I need to own it.

You know what I'm saying? I thought you handled it. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I can't, I don't want to cap it and let niggies, you know what I'm like, I just need to own it, you know? So, but, yeah, that was, that was strange. and that whole shed blood in the Nike store thing Nike never gave me a check.

I really thought that I was going to get something. No, let me tell you, they owe you a check for the day you had in their store. Listen, man. They owe you a check. For a lot more than that. Nike was not cutting it. The commercial was, hey, come to the Nike town

and get smacked by Nikki. I'm sorry. We definitely introduced the tech fleece to Metro Atlanta for sure. They, come on. So that situation happens and still there's no communication with Drake at all ever again

like it's just like completely radio silence do you reach out do you text him do you call them do you try to get in touch him through a third party or you're just like yo he's just obviously not fucking it just turned it just turned it just turned from like you know we talk to we don't

that's really all it is like And we've linked We've linked after a while or whatever And we've talked and shit since But you know how you talk But you don't say nothing It's just a bunch of philic

There, small talk shit Like how you've done that Like we've seen each other And you know but But I mean do you I just don't know Let's Do you blame him

And not to say you did anything wrong In that regard Or what the expectations Should have been from Drake I do feel like that's A possible asterisk from some fans and you just represent part of that and he wants to get far the fuck

away from it. It's maybe not a personal thing it's that situation. He's just trying to get far the fuck away. So even having a relationship with you still makes him attached to a moment that he may think is... But my thing is you're cool with me and you're cool with trauma. You're cool with people

who actually intended on killing. Okay. But that perception wise can close the chapter on that asterisk because we don't look at it as crazy now because he's friends with Meek again and I think he did it for perception reasons

of course they probably do have some type of personal relationship but I think he did that as a hey I won that battle I'm now going to be friends with him and we can close it and all the ghost fright and shit can go out of the way because we're not beefing anymore. I do feel like closing that and like getting a bunch of projects in between it

and stuff I do feel like getting as far away from that conversation as possible is definitely has been a mission of his you know because if i see and even like when i'm brought up like in interviews like he changes the subject really really fast like like yeah he'll answer and with his answer he he he switches it you know what saying so it's like i get it you know it's like a go away type of thing he's a brand to protect you know but i feel like when we look at drake and meek we don't think a ghost writing but if i were to see you and drake next to each other it probably would cross my mind again that's i'm just trying to think

from Drake's perspective of how it may not be a personal thing and more of a brand protecting type of thing. I honestly feel like it was just handled bad. I feel like if he would have just owned up to it, if he would have just been like, yeah, I work with Quinn. Like, this is a cool dude. Maybe you don't think I'm cool. This dude from Atlanta, you know, like, he had some cool ideas.

You know, like, I feel like it would have been, but we never seen anything like it. None of us, you know, so I never seen nothing like it. They never seen nothing like it. I feel like the music game and the internet in general learned a lot about viral moments and shit from my situation. I feel like rappers can freely have writers now. Yeah. Free of scandal because of that situation.

That's whole, when that news dropped, when we got the news that Drake, you know, these records and got the references and I remember how it shook. like me and my homies because it was kind of like, wait, so bro, he's not writing that shit. But then as you think about it, he's like, but he's written for other people. So he writes. So we kind of, we didn't really like pay that too much energy because it was like, all right, we know how this goes. He got some young energy in the studio with him.

Drake is not in the streets no more. He doesn't, what's the new slang? He needs to keep that type of energy around him. Howard Dew's talking. You know, what's the new energy, the new cadences, like the new flows. But as far as like Drake not. writing his shit because I think that was the thing that it was trying to look like, you know, he doesn't write. And it was like, we had to stop for him in it. Like, wait,

all of these records that we love, he's not writing. He says, then as you get him up, you're like, well, wait, he wrote this record for this artist. He wrote for this person. So clearly Drake is a writer. So to me, that shit kind of blew over because after a while, people just was like, yo, fam, he's written for other artists. Of course he writes his own shit. He writes for other people. It's like, I mean, I came into the situation, a fan of Drake already. I was telling him about songs that he had that inspired me. So it was never a time where I'm trying to take credit for this nigga shit.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, but I get it, you know, the whole internet because, you know. But I do remember you making it clear. Like when you came in the studio, that album, that project was like 85, 90% done already. Yeah. When you came around the studio. Yeah. Like a majority of the project was definitely done for sure, at least from what I heard.

Well, we know how the fans felt, or at least like the rap nerd fans about the, how did you feel. Did you think, oh, maybe I'm not the first person that's been here contributing this amount of lyrics before to Drake's rap songs? Because I think most of us didn't assume that, like, just so long we're coming home was all just Drake's pen. And some of the more poppy R&B songs, I assumed he probably had help as does almost every single person, period, when it comes to that genre. I mean, how did you feel for the rap stuff of like, hmm, hmm, this is his like fourth, fifth album? You know, It was interesting, but at the same time, you know, I know, the greats work and collaborate, you know what I'm saying?

Absolutely. Kaye West has a laundry list of collaborators on all of his albums, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, it's still to be able to hear what goes and know where to put it and stuff is still an incredible thing. And be able to deliver it. Man, I was just so happy and appreciative of the situation. Like, I wasn't even, it wasn't none of that. I wanted to help. I just wanted to help as much as I can.

Like, you know, like. And you was trying to get your name out there. You're trying to get your shit off, trying to get your art, your skill out there. Like, man. And just get some Cortezas in Nike, Nike town. You know what I'm saying? And just, and just prove myself right, man. Like when that album, when, when, when, if you're reading this dropped, it was a

like, man, I remember just hitting my dad. Like, dang, like, I did something that, I did something that touched the world. Like, you know, like, it was an opportunity for me, you know, it was big. And I'm like, man, I just want to see this shit keep going. And it was like the best dream of your life turned into a scary-ass nightmare. Where did that put you like, trying to hold the pieces together, you know? Where that puts you mentally, like, once the dust settled and like things calmed down a bit. and it did go from

what was probably the greatest moment in your career at the time to now what the fuck this is now the bane of my existence and I have to once again reroute did it feel like when you got dropped and had to pivot and figure something else out or was it just a shitty feeling?

Was it a... It felt like when I got dropped again it felt like damn I got to figure some shit out again but then then I I lose my leg in 2016. And so then

now it's just like two mountains. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I got to spend so much, like really damn there the whole 2016, I'm just like trying to walk again. Yeah. You know? So, yeah, it was...

What are your spirits like at that moment? Like, as far as mentally how you feeling? I'm sure depression was a thing. Yeah, man, because I just wanted to give back up. You know, I had a little bit of momentum on my name. You know, like, if I was going to do anything with it, I needed to do it then. Right. And so it was just like a very, very inconvenient time.

And then stuff like that makes you psychologically timid and, you know, makes you, you know, I realize, you know, some changes in myself that, you know, might have come from just a combination of everything happening at the same time, you know. Yeah. Yeah, but I just wanted to get back up and just get back and just show. A big part of this of me wanting to sit down and kick it what you was, you know, for the fact that I recognize, number one, the talent. But then I also recognize that you're just like a humble person and you're non-confrontational. You don't want to come across like you're trying to cause any issues, any problems.

You just want to do what you do, create, you know, have fun, put shit out there and, you know, just enjoy it. your art being accepted and appreciated. But out of that whole situation, what do you look back on to say, this is what I should have did differently? I shouldn't have did this. I should have did that. I mean, I guess sending references, yeah.

That would be, because that's really what it was. Because the word of mouth is the word of mouth. It was the actual references. But I didn't know what the fuck references was. Like I said, the 10 bands thing, that was before I even knew what the situation was. And, you know, I could never blame somebody for working with Drake and not wanting to play that shit for their friends. Like, bro, I'm like, it's like the very beginning, you know? And then, you know, with everything else, it's just like, I don't know, everything just happened the way it

happened. But, you know, it definitely wasn't though, what the fuck sense does it make for me to be like, I'm trying to leave some references out like, hey, y'all, I'm Drake. Like, no, I'm still trying to to get put on. Yeah. I'm trying to get more songs with this man. I'm trying to get songs with other people. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to do stuff with other people.

And, yeah. Did that turn you off to the possibility of being an artist but also being a writer? Like the way we saw Frank Ocean where he was still writing for people yet became his own artist between the body grow and Frank Ocean type of thing. I've been still writing for people ever since. You know, I don't work with. Nas, Big Sean, Gizi, a bunch of other people, Jeremiah, Tadalas, I'm like a bunch of other people. You know, I never really wanted to be a writer.

And, you know, it's an interesting sport, you know. I think I have more of a passion to just be creative, you know what I'm saying, with what I feel. But sometimes, especially, you know, in today's time where they want certain type of songs and stuff, you know, everybody's not, you know, that type of songmaker, you know, some people will make, not to sound corny, but, you know, make songs from their heart, I guess, or what they feel, you know, so, yeah, man, it's, it's an industry. Money Lawn really hit it right on the head, too, also just the feeling of being a writer, because it's really like,

like you're just the help. You're just the replaceable help. That's, you know, come when it's time to work, when it's time to celebrate. I forgot. Like, don't, you know, everybody gets paid,

but you, you know, into your publishing check, that you don't come to like a year or some change later, depending on your situation, you know. It's a thankless job. Yeah, it's a thankless job. is hours, hours, hours and no pay job.

So tricky, how much how well is tricky eating off of that? Unless, no, no, no. Okay, so now it's different if you got the hits, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

But if, you know, it's a little more difficult if you just like album placing and stuff like that. If you, you know, if you get them top 40 hits, top 20 hits, shit like that, you know.

Yeah. But on the way to get there, you're going to get fucked out of publishing. You can write a whole, record and not get the publishing you deserve because the bigger artists come with that standard that I'm taking this amount on the back end no matter what you do. All the time. I write the hook and the verse and all this thing.

You want to give me 5%, 10%. Why, bro? You know the situation, man. Oh, my God, man. This businessman. What, um, just between. It hurts your feelings. Between the entire career side of everything that happened, the accident.

And what was it like being a parent through that entire thing? It's like living three lives. Yeah, it's like living three lives, man. Because, yeah, you know, I don't know. It's like it's different hats. It's different zones, different modes. And I was like balancing that, you know, going to work, the dad thing, going downtown, to try to be a rapper, you know, just pretty much.

It's just a balance. thing, you know. It's tough, but you know, you got to do each other. What's the, what's the, when you see people, you know, playing your records that you worked on and your lyrics and they don't really either recognize you or know you, you could be in a club, in a room and people going off to your lyrics, like, what does that do to your psyche as far as, like, a writing, the artist? Like, how does that affect you?

Like, people are in love with your words and your, and your, you're, you know. your lyrics and melodies that you created, but they don't know who you are. I think it would mean more if it made me rich. But it didn't change my life because I was in a situation. So it was like, I just got clout. I just, you know what I'm saying? I got a clout.

I can walk into rooms with legendary artists and they know me and respect me and they'll hear me out and they'll listen to my ideas, you know what I'm saying? But then when we go out to the parking lot and the cars are different. Or the jeweler walk in the room and I get a little more quiet. I mean, Jewel don't know you. So it's like, man, you know, this is great. This cloud is great.

People say, oh, man, you're a legend. Yeah, I need that bread. Yeah, I need that check. Yeah, but, you know, you want that life. change an opportunity and, you know, the politics of the business. That's where I feel like sometimes the homeschool thing might have put me at a disadvantage. How so? It's interesting. Socially? Yeah, because of the business is very social business. People playing. It's the lunchroom. Game of Thrones. Yes, it's the lunchroom, cafeteria, cool table. I did go

half a semester, I begged my mom and I went to soccer with it. It was Lou Wales senior year. Lou Will, what did it do? Shout to Lou Will, legend. No, nah. But yeah, no, who knows, man, dude? Well, what was that semester like?

It was lit. Yeah. Did you feel socially awkward or like, would you mad at this time? It was like, it was like jumping on a treadmill on high speed. Yeah. It was like my sophomore year.

So it was like, It was just going, going, going. I'm like, I'm just trying to focus on getting my first girlfriend. I got my first dance. I went to a homecoming dance. I passed up on an opportunity. I know it in hindsight. I was young.

I didn't know. This girl, I had got to dance from her. She was like, hey, let's go. And I'm like, why? Girls are dancing in here. Yeah. That's how Green I was. That's how Green I was.

That's how Greenough was. But then even if you're not home school shit, yeah. That's how Greeno was. But then even if you're not home school. school, when you're that young and that type of shit hasn't happened to you? You don't pick up on social, certain shit from women like, oh, she wants to fuck me.

I was excited about the twerk, man. Yeah. It's just ads with girls everywhere. Yeah. And they just go. Just dancing, yeah. Yeah, man. So that's the mentality that I was coming from.

But I could rap. Right. Like, I'm nice. I could rap, though. I had a lot of time to hone my skills and that shit. It took me places. Speaking of of rapping,

One of my favorite joints you did was in the hills with half a mill, that record. The whole project is. Yeah. Why don't we get more of that? Like, why is that such a like a snapshot of a moment? Like, oh, we give them that and then we just disappear. You mean the half a mill joints? Yeah.

I mean, that's just a matter just all of us actually getting in the room, you know? That's, I don't know. Like, what hit boy is. now, right, in his career, his life, where you are, and then with Dom, like, I think that that's something that is very unique, very special, and something that we need more of. Because it's just dope shit that comes out of that. You know what I mean? I hit, I mean, that's my brother, man. It's like, through it all, it's weird. It's like, through all the bullshit and everything happened and people stop fucking with me, it was

boy wanted to hit boy and Jeremiah like them three just kept fucking with me and just kept me in the game and they don't know how important it was because I needed that validation that I was playing the sport on that level and I didn't have nobody else that was giving me that reminder you know so those relationships and just them just valuing my opinion and having me come through and keep working like that shit was big man Don Kennedy, he's like the cool guy in school. And I'm like the nerd, you know what I'm saying? There's nobody could really get off like that, though. It's so crazy. But, you know, we went together and, like, it's fire every time. It's classic every time. Hit, I mean, outside of the obvious talent, I'm sure Hit just probably identified

because he went through a lot of ups and downs behind the scenes with his career, too. Yeah, of course he's arguably the non-mm. number one producer now, but there was a time after Watch the Throne where the industry could have said, you know, it's over for hit. Like, this isn't really, and he was getting blackball to some degree in other places. Weird publishing shit. So it's nice that when you see people that go through bullshit in the industry, don't think, oh, everyone else should go through that.

They'd rather help and make sure people don't have to go through the same bullshit they did. Yeah, man. He told me that he's, you know, he related. with my situation a little bit, you know. But, man, watching that man ascend over these years just been crazy, man. He's like, Mamba mentality and a producer. I ain't never seen nobody

that just works so hard. Like, he's constantly making beats like constantly. Like, he don't ever get tired of it. You know, I don't know. The focus level. The focus level is inspiring. He's going to hit that studio the next day. He might turn up the night, but the next day, he's in there early, like, super early cooking. How many joints do you and Cardo have together? Man, Cardo. So we did it, he did a whole project with wedding crashes. This was after the Drake thing. I'm talking about, like, man,

me, Mac and Cardo sleeping in the same hotel room, like, going to his studio every day, working on this shit. And it was so crazy because soon as it dropped, like a few weeks after, he just stopped contacting us. He just stopped responding. It was weird. Stop supporting the project. Stop responding.

Wait, wait, wait. What? Yeah. I don't want to insinuate anything again. But do you have an idea of why? He just stopped. Do you think somebody told him to do that or asked him to do that? I have a lot of thoughts, Roy. I have some theories too.

I have a lot of thoughts. But there are thoughts that I can't say because then I look like a conspiracy theory, so I'm not going to do that. I don't know. I have thoughts. And yeah, now, I don't know. That was interesting because it was love, man. And it's still a love.

Like, I fuck Ricardo. I haven't. Phenomenal producer. Really good producer. He's an incredible producer. Guys playing, that's just incredible. I don't want to call it a single but love yourself when Nick Grant

that you have out now probably a month now it's probably about it yeah Nick Grant amazing love the record but I've noticed you've been putting up like minute minute 30 joints that are way more melodic even than some of the raps that you have

in almost like damn near acoustic guitar singing or just simple keys and singing is that a specific direction you're trying to go in between the rap stuff or where is the Quentin Miller I guess creative process at now and what you want to be represented as an artist? Right now it's just like really just again

with the cheesy lines was just going on my heart you know like because I'm inspired by all kinds of shit I'm inspired by all kinds of music Kanye is like my number one artist of all time you know so you know and especially with my time with Tricky and them at Red Zone, like, I just learned so much about melody and shit. And I was forced to make beats because it was a time where people weren't giving me beats. So sometimes I just like, I still, like, cook the beat up or whatever. And I just like to express myself creatively however I can.

Yeah. So where are you at now as far as, like, projects or putting out more music, visuals? I got more singles coming out this year. definitely dropping a bunch more singles project if anything I'm looking towards top of the year

for a project but just more singles just more music man I'm still out here y'all just tap in man it's more singles coming when is the last time Quentin Miller was like

happy uh man Yeah. Like honestly, just happy. Hmm. I don't know because it's like my head's been down. I've been like trying to get to a point like just head down grinding.

Like I guess I'm like basing happiness on like a place. It's like okay, when I get to this place then, you know. But you know till then. Do you think the accident put things in perspective at all and like, like what matters? Because, you know, after all that shit happened and it was all public bullshit and like, did that kind of make you realize what was important in life? Yeah.

But it also, it made me realize what was important in life. But then the months of just sitting in a bed just made you want to just run. Like, it just makes you just, you know, when you're just watching life go by on your phone, while you're just laying in one spot, that shit, that shit was, it just makes you say, fuck all that shit. Yeah. I'm trying to get in the streets.

I'm trying to get up. Well, do you think it helped creatively or kind of damped your spirit a little bit at the moment? I feel like, if anything, damage my spirit, it was the combination of that with, you know, I don't know, I've had a hard road in this, music business if, you know, from beginning to the end, you know. So I guess it just like, it was like, damn, man, I got to I got to pull a rabbit out the

hat again. Like, I got to like make something out of nothing again. I already was getting money under the table. You know what I'm saying? To, and I'm doing shit that's everywhere. That's all over the world. It's just shit that's supposed to change my life. Now, my life changing situation is gone.

And it was just like, damn, got to figure that shit out again. Like, it was just... I mean, but as exhausting as that I know it must be, you do have to applaud yourself with the amount of times that you've had to reinvent, pivot, change, and still continue the fuck on. Like, I think I would applaud that type of shit. Right.

Like, that's incredible to every... It's not easy to navigate through those obstacles. Like you have some of the biggest obstacles to Move around Get dropped and never hear from them again Get into an insane public thing In the history of hip hop With the biggest artist ever

Still continue on I have a terrible accident Still continue on Like I applaud your fucking stuff You found away every single time Gotta give yourself a lot of credit I know in the moment that probably feels really shitty Like dog why do I have to keep doing this shit

This is really taking a toll away You do have to also look at it as no matter what, I'm going to find a fucking way. I appreciate that, man. I feel like, man, you know, I'm still here for a reason. And, you know, these doors kept opening for a reason. So, you know, just got to stay at it. Who do you credit most with the inspiration for, like, your style of writing and flow? JZ, Kanye West.

in Atlanta. Just like all like because I grew up. You know, so all the phases, you know. I remember specifically like when I got, like I used to be super super, like I said, Jay Z watched the throne like, you know, just perfect rap. And then I remember like seeing how the gooshies and the black boy, white boy swag and just all that shit that was going on in Atlanta, how it would make girls react. And then I'd be like, hold up, no, no, no, I'm wrong, you know what I'm saying?

Like, it was just anytime when I would get too technical with the rap shit, then I would tap into Atlanta and it would remind me a flavor. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, just Atlanta. And then those two. And then I was, you know, Drake, Drake was a huge part too. Yeah. Take care was a...

I listen to that a lot. He's done pretty well for himself out here. You've done some... He's done some cool things. He's done some cool things. Yeah. You got that video, the hops in it? And we can clean this part up, but I do want him to see that.

Yeah. So my brother hip hop sends me a video. Hip hop. Yeah. Yeah. Keep the Nike. You were wearing Nike all the time. That was our thing.

You know what's ironic? Those are good times. That was the same week that dreams worth more than money came up. Is that why Hot probably sent that date? Yeah, man. I'm a part of that album. We know now. Yeah.

Outside of just fucking music and business shit and that, like, what's your hobbies? What's the average day with Quentin outside of music? Yeah, because we got to kick. We got to hang out away. from this shit. Once we turn all this shit off, I gotta really see what the fuck went

and be getting in. What the fuck you be doing, man? Man, my hobbies, that's the thing though because my job ain't like a job. Right. So it's like

even on a hobby day, you know, making songs, but, you know, I don't know. I'm a music head, man. I'm like y'all. Was your time in the crib

in the studio? I'm tapped in, yeah. Yeah. I'm seeing what's going on. I'm checking the landscape. I'm listening to the music. I'm, you know.

where's your love life at these days how they treat you no comment that means it's great they say no comment that means it's so many you don't want to talk about a particular one I know that trick

I know no comment yeah I know I get it at anybody want me don't nobody want me yeah I know yeah I know I say that I'll say that I know I would not call you corning for this

because I would do the same thing at any point before everything was exposed. When 10 bands or something came on, you definitely tapped, Shorby like, yo, you know,

that's, that's me. What you're talking about before and that's what happened? Mm-hmm. Nah, no, no,

okay. You wasn't in the studio getting that off? Man, I would have been right at the party. Like, yo, that's me right there. All that sauce,

all that flavor you're here right there, that's me. You know, I'm the chef. I'm gonna see her rapping along like, like, oh, you like those lyrics,

huh? You're talking like me now. Yeah. You're using my slang. I mean, come on, man. It's the biggest thing I had ever did. You know what I'm like. I would have done the same.

I wouldn't be mad at you. But, you know, never, never on record. Yeah, yeah. No, for sure. Listen, man, we love, we love Drake, man. We just, you know, this was a conversation that I think that a lot of people needed to just hear. And, you know, be a part of, obviously we have a relationship with Drake. That's our guy.

But I think that, you know, if y'all have had conversations, after that, you know, maybe there's room for a more in-depth conversation between you two. Hey, man, I hope we have it because, you know, it's not on my side. It's definitely from that side, you know, and I don't know what it's about, you know, because the thing that confuses me is the getting cool with the dramas, the getting cool with the meeks. So then, like, if it's cool, then why ain't it cool? But it's cool with everybody else.

And then it makes it seem deliberate. Like are y'all deliberately like they had to have the conversation. There's no way they had the Kentucky Derby. You know what I'm saying? Maybe not at the Kentucky Derby, but maybe prior to the Derby. I'm sure they definitely came up. You know, like so then it's just like for the conclusion to be what it was. It's like where did that come from?

Yeah. What's your relationship like with Boy Wonder right now? That's my brother. Like, man. And, you know, I don't. I don't know if this interview will affect that, but... I don't think he said anything. One to...

Yeah, but one did... Man, he put me on my feet multiple times, man. Like... Great dude. Good. Yeah. Solid people. The only dude that really, like, you know, I...

Over there on that situation with the OVO thing, it's the only dude that, like, genuinely gave a fuck about me, you know? Like... Mm-hmm. So, yeah. That's my God for life. I'm glad that's still intact. Because, I mean, that was the initial relationship that started everything.

And I'm pretty sure, you know, it affected maybe his relationship with Drake a little. But I think that, you know, I think it's important, man, just for us to have experiences where, you know, we feel like things were done wrong. But didn't have that conversation. And if people are able to remove their egos and just, you know, especially as black men, I think it's very important for us to do that. Like, we can go through things and have disagreements and maybe you did something that I didn't agree with. But if we come together and speak about it and there's no egos, I think that you can have a healthy conversation. And listen, we put shit behind us, like you said, you know, with other people that was involved, obviously was a conversation. Things looked like they're okay now. Patch those relationships up.

I don't see why there's not room for a Quentin Miller and Drake conversation there. Just as men, black men, you know, it's just like, I think it's necessary. We do enough of the splitting and the breaking and the beefing and the, you know, we need more of the, listen, I understand accountability. I fucked up here, whatever, whatever, and then move forward. Amen. I'm not against it. What's been your favorite rap album since 2015? Damn.

I know. That's a lot. Damn. We can clean it up if you need a moment because that's, yeah, a lot of time. Just because I think. I think the sound drastically changed after, if you're reading this, is too late and just that entire year and era of hip hop. So I am curious what you gravitated towards after 2015 as a fan outside of the own music you were making. Man, that's a lot of, that's a lot of albums.

It is. I feel like I'm going to, I feel like I'm definitely forgetting some. Who do you want a song with right now? Hove. Shoot for the stars, man. Yeah, I don't work with. Drake, Dream, I had a song with Kanye West. Aesap Rocky killed my line.

Listen, Aesap, you don't know this. You don't know this. Remember today when the picture that came out of Kanye West and I was there and pushed tea? Yeah, yeah, I remember. Okay, so listen, this is that game brings me to the room. Kanye is working on the song he has with Cardi B and Little Dirt. Okay. Right?

It's working on a song. I contribute a line. I say a line. Which line? He didn't use it, right? But let me tell you. The verse seemed unfinished. I say a line.

I say a line. He's like, oh, that's hard. Records it. Push you, hyping me up. That's my man. He comes over. He's like, yo, that shit's hard. That shit's hard.

Right? Everybody's loving it. 30 minutes later. Rocky walks into the room. Comes in. He's vibing. He's chilly. He's like, yeah.

it's just this one line now I want you to change and he picks my line this Nike town all over again he picks my line he didn't know he didn't know he didn't know he picks my line

so then Kanye's like but I really like that line I really like that line though can you tell us the bar can you tell us the bar because I mean it didn't make it it was a it said it was basic

but it was just a line something about put the put the bands in the trunk forgot us in the front some God Bands again. But you know the song.

But you know the song. It was one of those songs. So it was like, you know, IG caption rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, wasn't super provoking shit. But it was something that my name would be there.

Yeah, for sure. And he's just like, yeah, now you got to change. And Kanye's like, no, but I think I think we should keep it. So then like five minutes, 10 minutes go by. And Rocky's like, no, man. Nah, nah. You got to change that. line, man. That's the one line, man.

Hey, Rocky. And I don't have enough clout. I do not have enough clout. Hey, Rocky, we love you, man. I love you, man. God damn, bro. You just don't know. And I'm just sitting there just like... I would have been said, you about to have a baby with Rihanna. Leave my fucking lines alone. Yeah, yeah. Like, you have nothing else to do today. We had no clue. Oh, man. Damn, Rocky. It's all love, though. We love Rocky. But yeah, so that was supposed to be my Kanye moment, but yeah, I was supposed to be my Kanye moment, but, yeah, I feel like I might as well just... The Jay-Z moment, man.

There was a time where that was supposed to happen. And that's a story for another day. I wasn't, like, working directly with him, but it was just going to be, like, some ideas through rock. And, man. Do you know around what project it was or a time frame? It was a long time ago. But, yeah, that was during the...

It all... The entire thing, yeah. It all got messed up, man. It all got messed up during that time. After that. That was your first time being in the studio with Kanye at that moment? That was my first time being in the studio with Kanye. And he knew that I was in the studio.

Got you. See, that's a difference. Way big. That's a difference. That's a difference. Because you could be in the studio with a lot of these guys and they don't know who the fuck mean. But then and now when you're in the studio and, you know, they turn and they look right at it. you like oh yeah like what's up it's a different this whole different thing a whole different thing man

yeah it's a completely different ballgame well listen man we um we appreciate you giving us some of your time kicking it what you man and you know we definitely support you and we want to continue to keep this line open of communication and you know anything we could do to help the quentin miller brand we're locked in thank you man appreciate y'all absolutely and then whenever it's album time or project time let's do part too send it to me send it to me

I ain't going to send the reference to no send me the references they say for my phone I'm gonna let you know what I think We need to make them all a rapper No I don't want to be a rapper

I think that's on You have a Jesus piece on You got the Jesus piece You're in the music video With Jermaine DePree Yeah Very true But those that's just

You know That's just family man We just having fun That's all I don't be a rapper Rapper is dangerous Being a rapper is too much work I can't do it

But I salute you, though. And I love what you do. Obviously, you know that. We kick it. Thank you, bro. Yeah, man. So that's it. Yeah.

All right, it's been another episode of New Rory and Mall. Quentin Miller, we thank you, brother. Peace, love, and blessings. We'll see you soon. A win is a win. A win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me.

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