New Rory & MAL - Nick Grant Wants All The Smoke

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

We're droppin' a Thursday episode on the feed this week and we have Nick Grant in the studio. Mal shows Nick love for having the best rap album of 2025 so far, Nick explains away a tweet that seemed like it was a shot at JID, and Rory hosts a game of "Bars or Yelp". #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yes. It's hot. Too fucking hot. It still feels like do the right thing outside. We had three showers minimum a day now, Rory. Usually it's two. We have elevated it to three. We had a level three now.

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But today we are joined. We got family in the studio today. Absolutely. This gentleman has just released his latest project. I took it personal, which to me is definitely so far. BDOT update your list. This is, to me, rap album of the year so far. And he's in New York for a couple of days,

so we had to have family drop by us. Family bill. Picked a shitty week, but I understand. It's just coming off the release on Friday. It's baking outside, but it's all right, though. We push it through. Today we are joined by Nick Grant. What's up?

What's up, family? We don't have, like, a studio audience to collaborate. Yeah, I was ready. You got Josh and Pee. Yeah, that's so great. You were at my mind. It's so good. They're clapping at home.

It's all good. Now, Nick, they're clapping at home. You're clapping at home. You're clapping at home. Somebody was just in traffic like. Yeah, there you go. Claping the car on the train wherever you're at. Clap.

Nick, they lost, well, Nick told me they lost his luggage. Then you got some context. But then I got some context to what happened last night. You're telling me. And they didn't lose his luggage. He left his luggage. At the gate. Not even at the gate.

Yeah, at the gate. At the gate. At the gate. Yeah. He left his luggage at the gate. But, you know, hopefully they'll have it at the airport for him. But we're here today. How are you feeling, man?

Hot as motherfucker. I'm never coming back here during the summer. Yo, listen, summertime in New York. We talk about that old time. Summer time. And we got to be real. Summer came in swinging. Yeah.

But no one in New York is going to be, I don't know, 40 degrees next week. Yeah, I guess. We're about to have thunderstorms for the next six days. We're going to drop down to 70 degrees. So, you know, we're getting this, this, this, this, this 102 degree. weather out of here the next couple days. But yeah, Nick, Nick came during the start of the summer. I didn't

think the summer was going to get straight to business the way it did. I thought we were going to kind of taper into, you know, taper out of the spring and getting into the summer gradually. But summer first day of summer, I think it was like 94 degrees. Officially was 94 degrees first day of summer. But it's all right, though, man. We hear.

We hear in New York. My entire grid lost power last night. For real? Yeah. Whole neighborhood. Oh, wow. Yeah. And they and they sent me like four text messages over the last three days saying it could happen. To the point I've never seen this in my life. Tech zero if your power goes out. Never seen that before.

That's some new shit. Damn, that's scary. You know how many times I hit zero? Because I remember when we had that. For sure. When we had the blackout, I forgot what year that was. 03. 03.

Yeah. We had the blackout in 03. And I remember it was steaming outside. And literally we was all in the block sitting outside until sun came up. Like we was like, and then we can't go on. the house is dark. You got candles lit to just kind of show your way through the house. Flashlights. Everybody on the block was like, man, let's just sit outside, bring the chairs outside. We had, you know, the lawn chairs outside. And we had to plug, we had to plug into

the, into the light. Yeah, they got rid of that. So we could, yeah, the street light so we could get, get some power to charge our phones. It was crazy. The Blackout of O3 was legendary, though. I mean, the fact you even think about charging your phone at that time is kind of nuts. I mean, we had to find, we had to find a way to do it. We had to generate. Somebody bought a generator outside. I was like, you got a generator just in your house. So the wait, the outlet in the light pole worked? Yeah, so the light poles, I think, I don't, was it the light pole?

Something outside we plugged into and everybody kind of took turns to kind of charge their, charge their phone. I just mainly remember all small business owners just being terrified. Yeah. That's like my main, like, remembrance was down. Gates was down and everything, but I do remember it being steaming hot outside. It was like, not only do we not have power, but it's just, yeah. scorching hot outside and then we found out that something that happened in Canada. They said a tree fell on a power grid up in Canada.

The tree falls and no one hears it. That's like that's not. New York loses power. It's something like somebody didn't send the check they were supposed to sin and Canada got pissed at us. That's all that sound I'm like. Well, yeah, I was baking. Amara took that time to think, oh yeah, just laying on top of my face would be like I'm cooler

or something. Amara, get off me. It's a thousand degrees here. Yeah, it's hot, but it's all right, though, man. We keep it cool today in the studio. So Nick, man, what's up, man. You in New York for a couple days? Man, man, man.

Album done. It's out. How you feel it, man? I feel amazing, bro. Yeah. I love the reception, the response to it. What they say? They love it.

They love it. Two classics back to back. Well, Sunday dinner, you know how I feel about that album. Yeah. For me, that album out of all the projects that you released to me, I think that was the one that kind of solidified for me your place amongst the elite rappers and MCs that we have. appreciate that um but this album i took it personal uh we spoke about it when you was writing and laying it down and you said you wanted to experiment with this one a little bit yeah this wasn't

even me like like i was pulling back on a lot of these records it wasn't even me like going like sunday dinner was like stressful that shit was like count rice that shit is like you got have conversations different different people's perspective on like situations that i saw and it's just like what did you feel about when this happened like having conversations with my mom My mom was like, my mom is like my sister. My mom didn't raise me, so my grandma raised me. So my mom always calls me. She leaves these voicemails and stuff and just say different stuff.

So it's like she's opening the album and all this shit. I'm like, yo, this is heavy. This is something I got to do a deep dive in and like, you know, just talk about, but I got to do it the right way. So it was me talking to my siblings, me talking to my mom, me talking to uncles, aunt. So, yeah, but that was like, I don't know if you ever seen this shit. where Kobe was like, man, I had to lock in. Everything had to be basketball for me to, like, win the ring.

And I think that's what that album was for me, like, just locking all the way in, getting it together. And it was like, man, that shit took, played a little bit on my mental health. Yeah. Because it was a lot of shit that I didn't, like, overcome. And lock in, like, fuck the rest of my family's feelings. This is my perspective of what happened. I mean, I got to get the approval because I got it to speak about certain shit.

Fuck, fuck you when it's time to write it down. You know what I'm saying? But I got to get you. I got to get your approval. I don't want to do that because it's like certain things they might not want the world to know. Yeah, for sure. As an MC, how? But that has to kind of like, you know, get in the way of the creative process a little bit

when you got to take accountability and, you know, the storytelling. When you get into your storytelling bag, how is my family going to feel? Has there ever been a moment where you've laid something down in the booth and then, you know, whether it be mom or whoever heard it and it was like, nah, you can. can't say that and then you got to go back and kind of like, yo, my mom's a nigger, bro. Okay. She's like real black.

Yeah. Country lady. Yeah. From the south, deep south. Yeah, yeah. The fuck is you doing, nigga, what you? Yeah. Got to side of here naked, nigga, what the fuck?

What's going on? I'm like, yo. All right, let me change you. Let me flip it. Yeah. She was like, nah, if you want to say it's cool, I ain't really tripping. But, yeah, nigga, like, don't just be laying shit trying to. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So, um, It don't really take away from the process. I remember recording with Ray Murray from Organized Noise. And I was like, man, I don't really like this sample. I like the sample, but we got to clear the sample because at this time, the people like the management that I had, they always had me thinking business and clearing samples and all this shit. And I remember Ray saying like, man, get the fucking idea out. Fuck the sample.

We'll figure all that shit out later. If I got to change it and play it over. So I took that approach when it came to like, you know, telling certain things about. about my life. So yeah, I would ask after I create, create directors. Yeah. No, I make sense. So where did the, I took it personal thought first cross your head in the process of this?

Who pissed you off? Who is this directly about or at least sparked the idea of the album title of the industry? I took it person. Yeah, yeah, the business side of it. Yeah, that's something that I think that a lot of artists, you know, I love when the artist and, Rory, you're an artist as well. you can speak to it when they've realized, damn, the business gets in the way a lot. For sure. Politics.

It's relationships. It's, you know, I got to do it. Like, I just want to create, put it out. Hopefully people enjoy it and they accept the art and, you know, they live with it. But it's so many other things that get in a way that can kind of turn you off as an artist. Like, I don't even want to do this if I got to do all of that. If all of that comes with it, I don't want to create. The four of us, well, four of us with Vince Staples sat in the studio and talked about this entire thing.

For sure. That has to be the top thing on your mind before you can even create season two. Right, right, right, right. Exactly. So, yeah, that's what steps in front of you because I'm on the side of create and we'll figure it out later type of thing. But that can only go so far. At some point, something's going to be a roadblock. And you have to plan for that on the second.

For sure. You'll fall in love with some shit and it's like, no, we can't do that. And then you hear the sample replay and you're like, I don't even like the song anymore. Yeah, it's like, yeah, for sure. So it's like a lot of mixing. matching verses at that point. So yeah, that's what this was. But sometimes I'll just be like, man, catch me if you can.

Like, I'm putting this shit out. Yeah. You know what I mean? So a lot of that shit is that too. But yeah, to answer your question, I've been pissed off since I came in the business. Because I'm like, I'm seeing everybody get their motherfucking flowers. And I feel like I'm the coldest rapper. One of the coldest rappers ever.

Especially in this time, I feel like I came out at a weird time. There's a lot of other shit going on. but yeah I just felt like I was the de-dopish rapper and I felt like if people were considered lyrical if they had a certain cosign or a certain thing going for them they were pushed to the forefront you know what I'm saying and you know I wasn't I wasn't you know like mad I was pissed but I wasn't like

really upset it wasn't like I wanted to hurt anybody or do anything but it was like man like come on dog I've noticed since the blog error since Twitter really I'll say when it comes to media, there has been obviously like the A-list and people that are on majors, but then there's the underground

that may not do any of the numbers that match to what the media says about them. They become the darling of the Twitter worlds or the darling of the blog era. And then you see what they saw. Listen, I'm not here to, I'm glad these type of rappers get their shine. Anyone I'm thinking in my head is dope.

But they become the darling of the blog type of media. Did you feel left out of that? I think I came after that. You know, I think I came after that era. But it even folded over, like I'm not going to, let's use BDOT as an example, just because BDOT was there from the blog era to now

as far as still doing lists. And if you go through his list, which I appreciate, it's not a sales thing per se. It's supposed to be for talent, but I see a lot of rappers that aren't in that inner circle of blog shit. They still not selling nothing, but they're in the inner circle of media. it's weird

I see his list all the time I even told him like you ought to touch with a lot of this shit bro like just being honest Yeah BDat

you hear that You gotta touch with a lot of this shit I gotta touch with it So it's like Sunday dinner came out that year I heard that I didn't see it on the list Like Which I thought was crazy

No but no But you say Because you had a conversation With BDot about it Yeah And what was his response To not having Sunday dinner On the list

Oh man You gotta get active Outside of the album which I respect, but nigga, the album still came up. Like, the album is out. I just dropped the album and saw you right after that. Like, which is cool. I get like, you got to stay active and do all this stuff.

But I was also active. I was still putting out other shit, putting out freestyles and doing other stuff. But I, you know, me personally. I just felt like it was an excuse. Yeah. You know. What's the definition of getting your flowers, though? Because I feel you.

It's a thing. It's hard to explain. He gets it because when you. Who decides the flowers? No, at that time, at that time, I get you. get them now. Like, I get them now from like the music business and different people in different people in the business. And I've gotten it. You've been on tour with Nas. Yeah, for sure. And Lauren Hill. You've, uh, Andre 3,000 personally came to one of your shows. For sure. Pulled up. So, you know, when you, when you, things like that, those type of names, when they recognize you and they give you your flowers and think that you dope and take you on a roll. Yeah. I mean, I understand getting your flowers, but sometimes it's like, well, don't leave me. giving you the flat one.

Yeah, don't leave me off none of these lists, because I'm not on none of the list, which I don't really, I don't really care, but it's like. But that's what I think it's, that makes me feel, yeah, it makes me feel like it's about something else. Right, okay. Because I'm a nigga from somewhere else, so I'll be feeling like, yeah. You don't really fuck with me like that. What's up?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a problem. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because clearly I should, I should be mentioned up there. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I've had countless conversations with Waleigh, for example, on mic and off mic about this very thing.

And that's not a secret that, Wale is very vocal when he feels like he's being slighted or blackballed or like there's, there has to be a real reason why you leaving me off this because my art does not match what you guys are putting up on this. My art warrants me, it warrants me to be on these lists. And, you know, everyone's response to Waleigh is like, look at all your number ones, look at your career and all that. Like, yeah, that's cool.

And I think that's a dream that you could be on tour with Nause and Lauren Hill. For sure. And probably the three greatest rappers have co-signed you. Yeah. That doesn't feed your kid. Like a cosine is like Another thing Yeah, and not to say that the list really validates that

But if you're not in the inner circle of the media Of constantly being on list Or being thrown into the casual fans face You're gonna start to feel the way like, did I do something to y'all? Right Why am I not in this certain mix? And then you have the real rap fans like, nah, but Nas think you ill And it's like dog, Nas is fine

Yeah, right. That's a great point. Yeah, yeah. So that's where I feel like Walee, where he gets misunderstood. I get it. Now I feel them, man. Even with like the complex list stuff, with podcast stuff, even with my album, I felt away. When I was looking through the top 50, I was like, ain't no fucking way.

I can name, I can name 25 albums that are way worse than my fucking album on this shit. And you start because it does, it does add an accolade. Like, even with the Grammy shit, no. Grammys can never validate an artist, never will. And I don't want artists to think that way. But don't act like you don't get more opportunities when a publicist is sending out a bio that says Grammy nominated, Grammy Award winner.

It matters. Like, you get more shit. And if you're signed to a label, that could be a point to then renegotiate. Like, there's so much into that with media that I don't even want to be the hip-hop nerd purist that's like, man, if Lauren thinks you dope, then just be fine. Tell us to the landlord. Like, no. When the first come around, like, you're like,

Your Lauren Hill think I'm fired. Yeah. Yeah. What's the other? You're moving in. Like, yeah, that's a different level that we aspire to as kids. Right. But as adults, like, yeah, shit is cool.

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, because we, man, it's just as artists, man. We just sacrifice so much. We sacrifice time for my family. Sacrifice just, you know, just not being in the right head space sometimes with people that we love. You know what I'm saying? Just because we so focused. And if you want to be great at this.

This shit is like very tedious. It takes a lot of hard work. So, you know, when we get slighted, that's like a big deal. It's like, you know, we have some of the biggest egos in the world. So it's kind of like, you know. And on top of that, like, you even see albums that you think are dope. Then you're going to sound like a hater if you're like, oh. That's what I'm saying.

I can't say it. Like I can't. And that's where I feel for Wale when that shit got linked with complex when he was like, you're about to tell me my album's not better than Juicy J. Yeah. And after that, Wiley was. look like a hater. Obviously, Wally loves Juicy J. For sure. But he... Right. But you fall into

that space of sounding like you're a hater. And you're not. And it's like I'm not hating. But y'all got to look me in my face and tell me that y'all feel like Juicy J, juicy J's album was better than mine. Like you fall into a space of, damn, what Juicy J did to you? And it's like, no, he didn't do anything to me. He put out a good album. But y'all are going to tell me that my

album is not good as, is not at least as good as UCJ's. Like, so it's a weird space that I think artists fall in. Yeah. And not that you're looking for validation from anybody. Yeah, no, it's just, it just, I just feel like underlying shit. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, I guess the theme of that entire thing was, what a flower.

Yeah, I don't like my ass kiss. But yeah, is it, is it about something else? It's not getting, no, it's not that. It's like proven work. Yeah, for sure. It's not even validated. The work is validated. Once I put it out, it was validated.

Everyone knows what this is, but we can't all work in the same business and not acknowledge what this in terms of. entire thing is. So yeah, I guess my question, which I can't answer, is what is flowers? And what is flowers? Flowers is just, to me, I think flowers is, you know, recognition, appreciation, even just words. Like, you know, sometimes just letting the artist know, like, yo, fire. Like, I see artists that in passing, we was in L.A. for BT weekend, a couple guys I seen, and I was just like, yo, I like it.

See what you're doing. Like, that's flowers for something. You know what I'm saying? It's like, all, cool. Like, guys that you feel like have a certain taste level and, and, you know, have a certain level of what they expect from MCs and rappers. When they recognize you, even if it's just a dab and passing, like, yo. 100%. I like what you're doing.

You sound good. Like, to me, that's what it is. Just let me know that I'm, y'all hear me and y'all see me. Exactly. That's all. You ain't even if you don't put me on a list. Yeah. But when you see me.

Now, put me on the list. Yeah. Fuck that. Put me on your list, because you heard it and you, you know, you felt some kind of way when you heard it. Yeah. Don't tell me I ain't on the list, but the album is dope. Yeah. Like I fuck with, yeah, and nah, put me on the list.

Fuck that. Yeah. Then the catch 22 on that is I've talked to plenty of artists that get all the lists and mad that they don't get the sales that artists that aren't on the list are getting. They can't sell out a show. That's another part of it. They can't sell out a show the way an artist

that has never made a fucking list, period. Right, right. Like, you know, I always quote Fonte on everything. record I loved on their second album I almost retired because I had more press than sound skin I was the most revered on every blog on earth but nobody was buying my shit like yeah stop

stop revering me on the internet like somebody buy a fucking album dog but what do we get that is though is that is like what's the disconnect in an artist being super dope putting out a great project and then when it comes to these quote unquote lists or these blogs or whatever it may be,

being left off of those. Like, what is the disconnect? It has to be personal relationships. Yeah, for sure. It has to be politics. It has to be, you know, because now it feels like, damn, the people that's creating these lists

where they be, you know, complex or whatever, it's like, oh, because I don't know nobody up there. Right, right, right. I don't have a relationship with somebody up there. They left me off this list. Like, because you're not going to tell me these 10 albums that you have on this list are better than my album.

Right, 100%. So it's, it's a lot of it. So it starts to feel like it's more politics and there's more shoulder rubbing and things like that. Like I got to have a personal relationship with these people and these spaces. But when did that become like something that stopped giving recognition to dope albums? Here's the thing. Like you know I'm always creative first artist side of everything. But you could say that about literally every business in the United States.

Like it is politics no matter what on everything, whether no matter what job you. you work, politics is going to somehow be involved in your rise and fall in what you're doing. Shit, I think we are a very objective podcast, but there's guests that will make priority over somebody else. Like, now we got people that we fuck with personally. That's just a human nature type of thing. And that's where I feel for artists, though, because that's where you need a great manager. Like, Hovane, rest in peace. I watched Hovane's whole rise. I watched Hovain when I was working from building to building, Hovane would be in every fucking building. He would get to know every exec, everybody in marketing, everybody is socials. Like, he made sure, even though Troy did his

own thing on the street team side, Hovane was working. He was rubbing shoulders, not in like a, you know, bowing down type of way, but he was, he was networking in a great way. And that's what helped Troy so much. That's why Hovane ended up being so big in cinematic music and everything. Like, artists do need that person. Because that's no matter what we, could pretend in fucking some utopia that artists, if you make good music, it'll get out there. That's not the case. I think in my story, like, too, I'm not easily swayed. And I always ask questions.

And I think in this business, too, that pisses a lot of people off. So it's like if you can't like manipulate me or like get me to do something I don't want to do, like, nah, fuck, nigga, I ain't doing it. I don't want to do that. So, I mean, I feel like that causes conflict or that causes somebody to, you know, that's to keep distance in a way. Yeah. So, yeah, I think in my story, that may be the case. Because it's like, no, you need to be like this.

You had a lot of people in my journey telling me I need to be like this. You got to be this big personality or you got to do. That's not who I am, dog. I don't come from that. That was part of the conversation that we had when we was in LA in the studio with Vince. And Vince was saying, like, man, don't let them tell you you got to do this and do that. No, you don't. 100%.

Because Vince was like, I don't do none of that. that shit. Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? He was like, I don't do none of that and I'm still, you know, selling this and ticket sales here for a live show. Like, he was like, so don't let them tell you, you got to do that because no, you don't. Do you remember what I said to Vince, though? No. Everybody not you. Yeah, not for sure. Everybody's not, but, but Vince, he built his self to that. But he's always been kind of like, I don't really fuck with all of that. That's always been Vince's demeanor and his thing from day one was like, I'm not really into all that. extra shit. Yeah. And it works for them. It's like, yo, you know, this is who I am.

Either you love Ramona Park, broke my heart or you don't. You know what I'm saying? Like, it is what it is. Either way, it's still available, still out. And I think, and I think it's dope. So I think there is a space of politicking, a relationship building, things like that. Those are important, but those should never outweigh somebody's decision to hear a project and be like, damn, that's fire, just because I don't know this artist personally. Right. Oh, I mean, you know, I've never been on that. That, I'm the opposite of that. I just don't think the rest of media, the rest of the world really works that way, to be quite honest. I can not like you and I'd agree with you all the time and still think your shit is like crazy.

For sure. For sure. That's why when people are like, oh, you hate and I laugh. I'm like, bro, I don't even know these dudes personally. So I can't hate anybody personally. Like when we was going through the whole, me and Nick was laughing about the whole shit last year, Rory, you know, with the whole Drake Kendrick shit. Like Nick was one of the guys that would call me every day. Like, dog, these niggas think you the most hate-hating ass thing. and they don't really know, like, deep down aside,

you don't give a fuck about none of these things. Like, you really, and it's real. It's like, yo, I love the music. I don't know this artist personally. Yeah. So it's never personal for me. It's like, oh, I just, I didn't like that. Or I do like this.

But it has nothing to do with the fact of, yo, I know that person, person, which is why I don't understand these lists. It's like, yo, do you like the album or not? But we have the freedom that our opinions on this podcast are ours. And I'll speak not for all podcasters, but podcasting, that's kind of been the, lore of the entire thing. It felt like, okay, finally we get in some real takes from people that

don't really have an agenda or have anybody to, you know, have to say something for. Now you got to think about the list shit. Let's use complex. What they used to do was have a whole boardroom, fucking 30 writers all there trying to put 100 albums of the year list together. Every last person in there has rent to pay, has bills to pay, has family shit going on in their life. So while, So they are there for the purity of music as a young kid. They probably thought, you know, I got my complex job. All I did was love music my whole life. I finally made it.

Yeah, shit is a little different. When you know there may be agenda in the building and something that you bring up may have a certain level of an exec staff look at you and say, you're not on the same time we're on. Now you're just suggesting bullshit. 100%. You're not on the same page we on. You can't come in this building and suggest that. I've worked corporate before.

You know how times? I was quiet in certain times where I was like, I could say something that would make a lot of fucking sense, but I know it would fuck on my job. For sure. And my ass stayed dead quiet in that seat and was just like, mm-hmm. See, I got to grow up. I'm going to say something. Yeah. I don't like this shit, bro.

Like, what you niggies in here doing? Yeah. I mean, you just got to think, you got to think of the 22-year-old that this shit, the same way you sat and was like, y'all want to be a rap. I want to get out of my situation the best way possible. this is my dream job I can't wait to work at Hot 97 I can't wait to work at Def Jam I can't wait to work at Complex

Then you get that job Not everything is like The end of a movie script Where it's like nah fuck that Real hip hop And then they go out and start Their new label Right

Some people need that $65,000 a year And they're not about to compromise it Over some rapper They don't even know And just like their music Right So sometimes it's not real hip hop though

Sometimes it's just some underlying bullshit the motherfuckages. It's corporate. You know what I'm saying? I get it, but it's like, man, what about integrity? What about, you know what I mean? They don't care about that. Yeah, no, no, no.

They don't. I mean, I've learned that now. Yeah. They don't care about it, but it's like, yeah. I got to care about mine. What's that? What's that? Because, you know, I'm, and I'm asking you, we're kicking it.

We're just talking, but I already know a lot of the answers to this shit. But what is that like for you, though? Like, because I know how that's how we kind of aligned and clear. was like we our moral compasses is kind of in the same space but as a as a as an emcee and as a rapper like how do you deal with that battle of being in those rooms and knowing if you know i part with my integrity or if i kind of shift my moral compass a little bit right here this may further me in my career like how do you fight that battle like of doing that versus like nah i got to be nick at the end of the day i only do stuff that i want to do if i feel comfortable doing it you know

I'm all in, but if my spirit don't agree with it even a little bit, we can talk about it. We can have a conversation about it always, but if my spirit don't agree with it 100%, I'm not going. Yeah. I just can't do it. Yeah. I can't, no matter how much money, I always been like this. As there been examples, I mean, you don't have to get in like super details to expose any specific people.

No, he can. I mean, if you want to. Yeah, we can. Family, so, no, I prefer if you said it ever with me. Yeah, yeah. What have been some examples throughout your career? Because you've been in so many different situations, so many different management teams and around you.

What are some examples of that? Some examples of that would be. So I had a situation where somebody knew, like, my people. And they like, this is my hometown. And I'm like, yo, like, this was one of the things. that made me like not want to work with this person anymore. So they like took them to my hood, took them everywhere, you know. And this my whole, like, and mind you, my city is very small.

So it was like, everybody in the business that you met, you know, is from my city. And they said something like, yeah, stupid motherfuckers like from people from here. And I'm like, huh? The only people you met was my family. family. Hmm. You know what I'm saying? Like, how the fuck can you say that?

Right. To me. Right. So once I heard that, I was like, yeah, I got to. I can't, I can't do this. Yeah. Yeah. You know.

Yeah. It's about to go another way. Yeah. Went lose a draw. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was that a situation where it would have probably behoved you to rock with them on a industry side or career-wise?

I mean, the people that really know me, it's people that would, they don't really know. The people that don't really know me said like, no, man, it's, it's, It's not that deep. It's not that bad. Yeah. And I'm like, you're not really for me because I'm not that kind of guy. Yeah. If you say something about this and I've opened my doors to you, like, I open the door to my family.

You know what I'm saying? Everybody don't know my mom. Everybody ain't met my mom. My sisters, my brothers. You know what I'm saying? My cousins. You met everybody. You're the only person that's really met everybody.

So when that happened, I was just like, nah, I'm cool. Yeah. Okay. No matter how much money is on the table. Yeah. I'm going to fuck. I'm out of here. I don't give a fuck.

What is it like for a young Nick Grant or artist to be on tour with like a Nas and Lauren Hill? Like what are those conversations with Nas, like the MC conversation, like, or just life? Like, what is it? What are some of those conversations you have with Nas while on the road with him? Man, when, I think I told this story with your last time when he, when his shocker was like, yeah, uh, Nause is going to pull up. Mm-hmm.

and um gnaz actually uh pulled up with the hennessee and we just talked about bullshit all day long who was dope who was whack you know um who you said was whack though

because I know you because sometimes I'll be talking to Nick I'm like yo I like this little nigga Nick and Nick's like nah he whack I'm like dare so so who are you telling Nas like nah he was telling me he was telling me who whacked so I can't

really yeah you know what I'm saying I was just listening because I ain't really know him like that so I'm like, I don't want to say too much to throw him off. Yeah. But when he was talking to me, it was like everybody he thought was, was whack. Did he say somebody was whack that you thought was nice? Because that's the thing, like, when one of your favorite emcees thinks somebody is whack and you think they're nice, it's like, damn, like, uh, no, we share the same sense to me.

Okay, okay. I thought he was, I thought the dude was whack, too. Okay. It broke my heart when Nas got on the radio and dis Noree. I was like, I love Norrie. Yeah. And on top of that, I loved all the Angie Martinez songs that were out. Yeah.

You remember that Power 105, right? Yeah, absolutely. I was like, damn, my favorite rapper. Yeah. Angie, I like your songs. Yeah. He said, Norie, step your rap game up, hot 97, stop having your host rap. I was like, oh, because at that point, I don't think we had heard, like, a rapper going

a rant like that before. Outside of Pock, maybe. Right. But I was too young for that. that was my first time like, oh, rappers do this for real? Yeah, yeah. Did you ever have, so now the whole Joey Badass versus. I want it in.

Yeah, like Joey Bad. So what is that, what is that like for you, like sitting back watching that as an MC like? I mean, you in L.A. I have, but I'm not from L.A. I ain't, I ain't have a dog in the fight, but I was watching like, I wish you motherfucker would, like, you know what I'm saying? like so I'm watching the whole shit but man I thought

I thought that was a great moment that's like it made it exciting I did too I thought I thought I thought that was a dope moment I thought everybody that put out records are like dope artists so yeah I was like I was hyped about that

so hype I was like yeah I got it you're ready to go in the ball yeah I want to get in just for the I don't even know none of these niggas for real but yeah but nah I thought it was I thought it was a dope moment now you spent some time around the TD camp yeah like a lot of people

probably don't know that. What was, what was that time? Like, like, what was some of those writing sessions about who were you the most surprised by, like when you, when you heard them lay their verses down? Like, what was some of those, those sessions like? Man, the person that I knew, like, the most was like Punch. So I would be with Punch every day. Punch would just hang out every day. That's my man. That's my man to this day. I got so much love for Punch. Like, Punch was one of the, he's another person that's like, knows my people, like my family. Like when they come to LA, I'm like, yeah, we're going to punch out.

So he like, super cool, open his doors to me. And I'm a person that's like, fuck music. This is my guy. You know, and you're my guy for life after that, no matter what happened. So, yeah, so he was the person. And I think the first person to reach out after I, like, dropped the project was like Kendring. And I just always respected his pen.

I always got love for K.D. Even for that, because most people run from this. not even hyping myself up like I'm the greatest motherfucker in the world, but most people run from me. So when he was talking to me, he was talking to me crazy. Like, yo, when we do a record, I ain't holding no punches. I'm gonna kick your ass.

So I'm like, okay, I just gonna be the fight of your motherfucking life. Right, right. But that's how emcees talk. But I always had love and respect for him since day one. That's one of the greatest to ever do it, for sure. Do you feel like that would have helped maybe like earlier in your career

not to where you're at now because I think you found peace in your lane in what you're trying to do but having that click of a bunch of emcees that you grew up with that were together on the same label

the way TDE came up with Ab, J Rock, schoolboy eventually and Kendrick. You think that would have helped? Hell yeah. Okay. You know, just that cloth

of just elite rappers I think if it was If it was done the way that I perceived it, it would have been, it would have been great for me and, and growing and, you know. Why didn't you sign with TD?

I think it was going away from the agenda that I was trying to, that I, that I had for myself. Okay. Just the plan that I had for myself. Punch had a, he got a group.

He got a group now called Room Full of Mirrors. And, you know, I, um, shout out to them two real dope crew of artists, but it was like, you know, I was this artist that already had like LPs out. And I was like,

trying to stay on the, path of that. And I found myself like focusing more on on that than, you know, and people, not people knowing me more for this, but it was like so, such a big, such a big break in between putting out my own material. And I felt like I was losing. Maybe it, maybe it was my own insecurities, but I felt like I was like losing a grip on the thing that I was trying to push and push forward. So, would you ever entertain another deal in that capacity? Um, no. Okay. I'm extremely happy right now. Like, um, I just like the way my life is set up. I like my, I never had a routine in life. I get up and jog and I kind of just do it, do what I want every day, you know. I'm with my kid every day. So I'm like, go in the room, put them to sleep right? The rhymes, it's less headache. It's less like, you know, it's less stress for me right now. So I'm like, that's the best way to create. That's the best way to like put out material. Yo, and Nick's son, whenever he says DMX,

his son starts growl. He grabs. No, it's the craziest. That's the real shit. I got sure. I shake with the cameras up. It's the, this shit, buggy out. Nick said DMX, DMX.

I'm like, where did he get that? I'm going to tell you the hell shit about it. What are you teaching your child? I didn't even teach him that. Yeah. So what happened? The craziest shit with your kids, you don't teach him a single thing. I was like, where the fuck you learn that?

I said that shit. I was like DMX and he grow out. I was like, yo, what the fuck? Because we have like, you know, music videos playing in the crib. And this was the nigga that he gravitated towards. Yeah. Why do you like this? And then I thought about who I was.

And I was like, oh, I see what I like that. Yeah. It makes sense. So, I mean, you wrote a letter to your son, which I tweeted. I didn't, I mean, I didn't, I didn't cry. Somebody was cutting onions. Was this something to say? Something to say, yeah.

Yeah, alpha, I took it personal. You know, listen, man, you know, keep. be in the crib cutting onions and shit I get it just I was like you stop doing that I'm trying to listen to music and start crying and shit

it wasn't because of the song I swear You cry motherfucker I was sitting For you cry For sure The matter of fact The night before we all

Got in with Vince I was with child the night before And we were working on I'm trying to go down that path Of the record To Amara Yeah I got like two bars.

I'm like, I'm cool. I'm like, yeah, I was like, yeah. And yeah. I took something that she was doing on the DJ shit that I have already. Like I sampled her for it and her voice. And Yanni put some shit together that was insane. And we started to write. I was like, yo, no, no, no, no, no.

Yo, don't we bet like, come on. Let's get an ear cleanse. Let's get out of here, man. Let's go do something else. I get it. I get it. So what was that like, you know, Because we, that's the most, we talk about, you and I just talk about kids.

That's all we talk about is kids. Like, new dad shit. Yeah. We're the experts. I'm telling you. We're the experts without really being the experts. Like, it's niggies that I call in, but it's my guy when they come. Hey, man.

Hey. Yeah. Yeah. So what was that process like finishing that record? Man, that shit was tough, bro, because I started thinking about like my dad and shit. You know what I'm saying? So just thinking about stuff that we did and we used to hang out. My dad wasn't the best.

dad he was always in and out but um my dad was wow wow hood nigger man you know what i'm saying he had me out with the md 20 20 20 i said that in the rap yeah um with the md 20 20 20 drinking md my dad used to mix uh mad dog 20 20 20 and wild irish rose together together trying to make a bomb no when you said the md 20 i was like yo i felt i was like yo other people drink mad dog Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. So Boones Farm, my mom will give me a little of that. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's the shit. Now, he gives that shit to me in a cup. I'm passed out 30 minutes. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Take me home. Yeah. So, like, as I'm pinning this shit, I'm thinking like,

because I used to be hard on them as I got, oh, the motherfucker, you ain't. Yeah. You know, so now once I have my kid, I'm like, man, he got, he had his own shit going. He had his own issues. He had his own problems. So once you start looking at it. at them like a human, you know what I'm saying, as opposed to this person that's supposed to do everything for you.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Superhero type shit. I learned how to like look at it from a different perspective through my son. So it became like, you know, closed chapter because I did it, I did it on the last album, but I felt like it wasn't enough because I had more shit to get out. That's why I was like, yeah, I'm gonna put this on this album too. I'm gonna give him something, but yeah, man, you know, just learning a lot. about me and my dad's relationship

through me and my son's relationship. So it was like, it's like closure for me. Yeah. Where are you at? I want to word this correctly, but I don't really give a fuck how they interpret it. Where are you on raising your son

in the most healthy way possible and where that may deter his ambition in life? Man. Man, that's a great question. Because I know we're sports, we have to raise our kids in the best environment possible. No matter what, make sure every last thing they do is amazing, take care of every last bit. Right.

I think for me it started with myself and like just cleansing all of my insecurities and all my trauma. I'm trying my best to do it. I still, I'm not perfect. Yeah. Just trying my best to do that shit and, you know, and whatever I'm learning about myself. What to do or not to do, I'm applying that in how we live day to day. Yeah. And whatever he gravitates towards, I support him.

But, you know, his mom is like, she different. We come from different, two different, you know, spectrums of life. So it's like a whole different thing. And I'm learning stuff through her too. So with him, I think it's dope every morning. He, like, prioritizes a book. Like he'll get up and drag the book. And then he'll get up and I read the book to me.

Yeah. Even if I'm like, all right, I got you. Just give me a second. Yeah, let me get up. I'll wake up. Nigger, you'll flip these pages. Come on. Like, he'll flip the pages for you.

So, yeah. Yeah, so I think that was dope. So I was like, all right, it kind of got me in a routine for him. Like, through his mom doing certain shit. And because, you know, I'm going to do what I'm going to do. I'm going to make it easier for him day to day. Yeah. Like, all, come on.

Just watch this. Come on. Let's do this. Let's have a fun. But that's cool. but it's like structure is the most important thing and you know she was raised a certain a different way than me right she's applying that and I'm watching that too and I'm like okay this is really how it's supposed to be done yeah yeah you know what I mean that's dope

though to kind of like have that moment through having a kid and you know having a great mom for sure great mom and her instilling that structure in them and things like the things you probably didn't have growing up but then it's like okay like you watching her as a mom like I like the fact that she's given my son that. Like every morning he grabs a book first. Man. And he wants to read. Yeah.

Like you need those moments of, okay, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we got to, I'm going to sprinkle some of mine's in them. Yeah. Like, moms definitely. I'm not suggesting. I'm not suggesting you should burn all books and not feed your child. I'm suggesting that I want to give my daughter everything in the world. But is that going to hinder her progress when she gets older?

Yeah. That's where I'm really getting out with the entire thing. Like, got you. If I make it too fucking easy. Yeah. And you get everything you want like, should end up like one of the, the Hilton sisters.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's a balance with me. I'm like, I'm like tough love. I'm like, all, we can read this book, but I ain't picking you up. We ain't doing none of that. Yeah.

We're going to swing this baseball. You like doing this shit. We're going to do it longer than you want to do it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit like, I'm tough love. Like, I pick this toy up. Put the shit over here, like,

clean this shit up. You know what I'm saying? And he's only. He'd be two September. So, you know, just little stuff like that. Like, I'm tough. I'm not too tough on him because he's a baby. Yeah.

Yeah. But I'm like... And he's more like as... Nick talking shit, man. He got... Little man got Nick wrapped around his finger, man. Nick over here to my... I'm daddy, dude.

Now he'd be kicking my ass. He's kicking my ass. I have no tough love. That's what I'm sitting here. Like, God, I got a little... I got a little girl up because I'm so nice to her. Yeah, I got a little bit. I got a little bit in me.

But we should, you should. You should, you should... your kids a little bit. I think that's... No, of course. Something that we all, you know what I'm saying? You should do at some point. Spoil your kids. The objective is to make sure they had it easier than you did. Without question. Yeah, for sure. But, you know, I'm just keeping the back of my mind as the years go. Like, all right, tomorrow. Yeah, you got to start tapering it all over a little bit. As they get older, like, all right, we're not just giving you everything you want. Like, my nephew, he's getting real.

I met people that had that. Yeah. They're not good human beings. Yeah. My nephew, when he found out that I could send him money to his phone. Ah, there you. And he found when he unlocked that, I ain't ready for that. Oh, my God. When my sister gave him a new. Oh, better, better blessing.

He was on, he was on FaceTime with his son and said Apple Pay. I was like, you guys are already there? Yo, my God. My nephew is there. Like, in these games, they make it easy. Who invented Minecraft? Who invented Minecraft? I'm going to beat the shit out here.

Minecraft, me and the nigga that got beat, created Minecraft going to fade when I get you. Yeah. How much you got to spend in those games? Like, you need another 50? dollars? That shit crazy. You got to buy some more shit? Like, and when I bought Super Mario, that was it. I didn't need to pay for nothing to get to the zone world and all. I had to figure it out.

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3000 and when is he giving you your verse? Man, that's a great question. That motherfucker don't give a fuck about nothing. Yeah. He don't care about nothing, dog. He, and I love that, like, even just learning that and watching how he move and how he create, he's just limitless. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I met him through, I met him through Jason Jeter. Remember Jason calling me to the studio. Got off the Jeter? Yeah, I'm going to tell this story again because this is like. Like related? Jason Jeter? To Derek Jeter, no.

Yeah. I've never met a cheater in my life. Y'all have met Jeter's before? No, no, no, no, no. That name is so rare. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a rare name. So, yeah, no, he was managing me at the time, and he was like, yo, 3,000 wants you to come to the studio.

This was the first time we ever met. Mm-hmm. He was like, yeah, just play me some stuff, man. He was super cool. First day I met him, he was cool. Yeah. Second day I met him, oh, motherfucker, this is just Nick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Super cool, man. just those conversations are like super creative super like you you kind of understand like why he is who he is just from speaking to him even to seeing the motherfucker walk nigga walk different yeah talk talk different yeah um yeah but yeah i learned so much for him and from him how he create and you know i learned a lot of intention from him you know what do you mean about that um just how he like approaches music like like I

I see this motherfucker making the beat with the producer. I never had that, like, until, like, yeah. I'm like, damn, making beats, too. He's like, motherfucker can't make your music without you. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, I always carried that with me. But yeah, one of my heroes, and you got to think, too, like, this was somebody that's like,

I grew up in South Carolina, but I moved to Atlanta when I was seven years old. And when I moved to Atlanta, I moved to his neck of the woods. So that's all they play, you know what I'm saying? it was AT aliens, it was Southern Pluralistic, uh, motherfucking Equimini, all this shit was like the soundtrack to my life at that point. Mm-hmm.

Um, and if you know anything about old national in 1995, it was like, the hub for like, mm-hmm, culture, especially Atlanta culture, of course. Um,

but yeah, he was like, so to meet him, all this stuff plays into my mind, like how, how I lived and the stuff that I was going through. Yeah. Like,

motherfucker almost dropped the tear in there so the second time I meet him he's like bowing like man I wouldn't write I couldn't write a verse

you know I write a better you'll force me to write a better verse and I'm like me shit that's crazy yeah like I ain't

yeah yeah yeah yeah you start getting some ideas like you guys

to feel like I hope I wish it's been a little hard okay yeah I'm like

yeah this is crazy um but yeah like all of the all of the older guys like they respect me in that way because I'm, you know, I'm just a product of everything that

they've put out. You know what I'm saying? I'm I studied all of these guys. I, you know, I always put money to the back and put music and study first. Because I always was, I always was told that, you know, the money comes when you just focus. Yeah. And it's almost been 10 years for me and I'm still. Well, you know, they say, they say that's the year. Yeah, for sure. Everybody needs 10 years. at it or 10 years doing something for it to really take off. 100%. You know, you look at it.

My brother hip hop, he has this, what I call it a hip hop Bible. Yeah. And he broke down literally every rapper. I was telling him worried about it. It's the crazy shit I've ever seen. He took every rapper, every MC ever. And he has it from the year that they were born, the year they dropped their first, I think, single or album.

That's crazy. And it literally is like you can see the 10 years, like from when it took off. Like you can see it like, yo, this is when this out, then this single drop. That's when this career took over. And it's like, I'm looking at it. And the one person who has probably the most unique timeline is Jay. Because Jay was introduced with Kane in 88. Wow.

So he has it like, Jay was really supposed to take. off, you know, sooner than he took off. If you look at it, the 10-year thing, it's like, I'm glad you said that. So Jay literally his 10,000 hours, like, is happening, like, in real time. Like, he's supposed to have been to go off. Yeah. So it was so interesting seeing that, and I'm like, damn, but, so it's a real thing

when you say 10 years, like, 10 years, 10 years. And that's, you know, all creatives need to understand that. Like, you got to put that time, man. You got put the energy in because the great, just because when you saw them take off, don't mean that they ain't been doing this for 10, 12 years. Like, you know what I'm saying? They've been doing this shit. And even before that, before we even knew them.

Before that, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, with you, Nick, I remember hearing you know, years ago and then seeing you on all the radio stations, whether it was in Atlanta, it was Sahai and GZ. That's my brother. You know what I'm saying? Weather was with sway. Like, you've always been, anytime I would see. you online, I would say,

all, let me hear what Nick doing and I would click it. And you can hear the progression. You can hear the bars getting better. You can hear the flow change and you can hear the content changing. Where you are now, Sunday dinner, to me, bona fide classic. Man, appreciate it. I think if anybody found you during Sunday dinner,

if that was anybody's first time hearing Nick Grant, it would be hard for them not to love you as an MCN and the rapper because that's some of the best rapping. and emceeing, I think that, you know, especially in these times, it's hard to really find that. Right. Where it's like, this ain't no machine. This ain't no, you know, dress it up and make it sound good. So it goes everywhere.

You know, this is skill set. These are bars. These are flows. These is like this is real, a real hip-hop consumer's dream. It's like going to the record store and going through the vinals and finding something like, oh, yes, this is the type of shit I've been looking for. No, for sure. Now, what I took it personally. Appreciate that, too.

You, again, you said earlier, you experimented a little bit different than this one. You wanted to change the sounds a little bit. Are you happy with where it landed as a final product? Absolutely. Absolutely. I think it's a good continuation of Sunday dinner. But I didn't want to give the people such a heavy album again. I wanted to give them something like, let's dance a little bit this time because, man, I know.

I don't tell you. motherfucking mom on drugs I didn't give you a baby mom having a kid I gave you so much I gave you so much heavy shit It's like But it's real shit

Yeah it's definitely real shit And it's some real shit on here too For sure but it's like Let's dance a little bit We'll get back to this for sure But to continuously do that At least for me It'll put you in a dark place

Yeah Let me just You don't As an ear cleanse You know And you know, I'm always happy. I'm like, hey, what the ho? You know, I'm one of them things.

Like, so I don't like being down. I don't like, and if you want to be great at telling your story, you got to be, you got to be, like, in tune with it. You got to always be in tune with it. You got to stay sharp. You got to have those conversations. You got to talk to different people. My family is older, so I go home and just listen to a lot of those conversations.

I just fly home from L.A. That's a long way. hear conversations. Yeah. Just to hear certain people talk for that album. And it's like, this is why people love it because it's like, it's another level of like being in tune.

But it's like, man, this shit is like, it's some good moments too. Like my family's like, my mom is the second youngest of 15 kids. So. And all of her siblings are still alive. My mom, my mom, my mom, 65.

So her oldest, her oldest sister's like 90. Bless you. You know what I'm saying. So record everything. No, that's what I'm doing with my family. For sure.

All my. all my audio record message on this shit is I leave this shit with my family talking. Yeah. Just to keep all that. For sure. That's fine. Yeah. I got like footage and shit.

Not even to like put out on an album. Yeah, not for sure. Just to have it. To pass down to your son. Like this is. Man, that's a great idea. Yeah. Oh no.

I do that with everybody now. So everyone's getting old. Yeah. I'm going down there. I'm just listening to conversations and doing all that stuff. I'm like so when I approach this album, I'm like, man, that was a lot of fucking work, bro. Yeah. I don't know if I got that shit in me right now.

I got it in me. I can do it because, you know, I'm attentive and I'm listening. I know how to, like, translate the shit into music, but I want to do that shit again right now. Yeah. I'll give you, like, this surface level, you know, some good shit, and it's still be a great album. I can still do that, too. And it's, you know, great continuation of it. And I'll get back to the storytelling in depth, but you got to, you got to have that.

You can't have that shit in. You got to reset. Yeah, you got that shit in waves, bro. You can't just do that. Every album. Yeah. For sure. So we know the album, if you didn't download it and stream it yet,

do yourself a favor. I take it personal available now. So we got the albums. We got the great stories with Nas and 3,000. Jay Z too, nigga, Jay. Yeah, Jay, fuck with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I always show me love.

Every time I see him, show a nigga love, man. I fuck. I mean, it's the skill set. I fuck with it. Yeah, you got to. Those guys, Naz, Jay. They recognize when they see, you know, the skill set that they have and, you know, they, they know when they see it. Like, okay.

Jay cool though. Jay play me cool. He's like, yeah, all right, you, you're special. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's, that's Jay. And everybody, like, he's just, he's the coolest nigga in the room at all times. No, for sure. I gave him the first five-year anniversary print of written testimony vinyl, the first press. Wow. And he said, I've never gotten a gift. All right, man. All right, man.

Oh, what the fuck you're talking about, man? Hey, man, Jake. I've never got a gift. Man, what the fuck you told his eBay? Cut it up, man. I've never gotten a gift. Yo. I said, all, man.

B.A. never bought you nothing home like a cutter and shit. Man, no, his defense, I think he, like, thought I was bringing it for somebody to sign or something. And I was like, no, that's the first press of the five year. Like, it's a different color of the vinyl. And I was like, this is the first press. He's like, I never got a gift. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That nigga lied. Yeah, that nigga line. Oh no, I laughed. It was hilarious. I remember being in Atlanta.

We did like 4-44. Somehow I end up in like his sky box. And it was a lot of motherfuckers. Star studied like a motherfucker. Yeah. And everybody's chilling eating their wings and shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.

Motherfucking bodyguard comes through with the light. I'm like, who the fuck about to come? here, bro, Beyonce, about to go. Yeah. Like, Obama, motherfucker. Yeah. Everybody come here. Beyonce walks through.

When I tell you this motherfucker ain't give a fuck, he was like, everybody out. Yeah, yeah. Everybody out. I said, if you're kicking these niggas out, I got to go. I got to go.

That's the fact, yeah. So he like, I'm about to walk out. He's like, nah, you good. Yeah. Just don't sit on the front row. Right. I'm like, oh, that's fly. Yeah.

Fuck you, nigg. You fuck how many of that is. Yeah, yeah. You just sound like Martin at the sky box. Mom was like, yo, you niggas, get out. Tell them like, hey, nigger, yeah, nigger, get out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was on that, but yeah.

Yeah. Nah, dope, dope moments, man. But what is that, I mean, because, again, you just, you're a student of the game of hip-pop. So, you know, to have that type of access, one, but then to have those moments with the guys that, you know, you looked up to and you had posters on your wall of these guys, and then to be in the same room with them and have to have those moments. have those, you know, those encounters. Like, what is that?

That has to let you know as a person, like, okay, I'm doing something right. Like, I'm in the room with my heroes. They acknowledge me. They, you know, they like what I'm doing. They love what I'm doing. You have to kind of walk with that, like, just got a brand new head-cut. I was, yeah, I was Jay-Z, nigger. I was rapping to the niggas on the wall.

Nigger, like, you hear this shit? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What's the sheik loop's line when he's like, yeah, I've rap to Biggie and I I swore you move. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? I used to do shit like that.

I used to, like, write these niggas rhymes and put my name in place of their name in the verses. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I used to, luddy, these guys are, like, superhero. Yeah. So, like, just to see them, like, embrace me, take me on tour or, like, Andre 3,000 come to a show.

That's like, yeah, yeah. I'll be telling my brother every day, nigga, you can't fuck with me. Yeah. Yeah, he can't fuck with me for real Nick, but yeah, nah, we'd be playing like that and shit. But yeah, I'd be telling niggas, man, like, I used to always tell anybody like, yo, I'm gonna do this shit.

I'm gonna be serious about this shit. All right, so we got the kumbaya shit out the way. We got all the kumbaya shit, Pete, Peech, clip it. Yeah, all the kumbaya shit. I just don't. No, no, let's get, we got the kumbaya, my lord. We didn't sing the gospel. The three stacks flew out.

out the way. All that high frequency, beautiful shit is over. It's beautiful. We don't pride about the kids, love the kids, all of that. Yeah, yeah, but let's get to the shit. Yeah, let's get to this shit. Fuck them, kids. Yeah, yeah, fuck them kids.

All right, so the kids is good. They're with their mama. They're good. So the other day on Twitter, somebody said, it ain't a nigger on this earth that can rap with J.I.D., not one. And Nick Grant Music, Nick Grant Music

Retweeted that With You said his whole government name Nick Grant music Yeah yeah Yeah he retweeted that With five baseball cats I should have put 10

Yeah So let's talk about it So Why did you Why did you respond with Kat? Because it was Kat Is it because you don't feel like J.I.D. is

well first of all Does it feel like you? I think he don't I think he don't I think you know got his people that like him I just think I'm better You're supposed to feel that way

No I just think I'm better Okay Hold on the match you do you feel that way Yeah Okay I love not because you my man No no no not because of that No Jid I think is

Is a high level Lyracist but yeah I would take I would take you versus Jid In a battle for sure Yeah not because Nick my man But I I fuck with JID

I fuck with JID But again I mean man, that you're your man. No, I mean, I fuck with J.I.D. though. I fuck what I like him. I think he can rap. He definitely, he's definitely one of the ones that I listen to. That fuck all this Kumbaya shit.

No, I'm on Jid's side. What's up? Yeah, no, fuck all this Kumbaya shit. No, no. Matter of fact, no. And I'm going to actually tell, like, actual facts. If you've looked at from the younger generation right now, I'm not sure if there are people that can rap with Jid,

the way Jid has showed up in the last five to six years. When it's come to making music, when it's come to guest verses. Anytime Jid shows up, everybody starts what they're doing. Why do you think you can take Jit? I'm just better. See?

You feel like... We got to go to the studio tonight. We want me to show you? I can show you. Yeah. Yeah, I want to see. But don't this Jit on my behalf. Like, I'm not part of...

Yeah, no, not. I'm not part of Dreamville. No, no, no, but this is... But like we said earlier. I like where we at in rap where... Yeah, just competitive. If a rapper feels like, I'm better than home yet.

And then you get in the booth. lay it down, I'm with that. Like, we just saw it with Joey versus everybody in the West Coast, everybody started putting out their records the next day. I like that type of shit. Right now, we'll push her, you know, just talking about his discrepancies with Travis. Right, right.

I'm just glad niggas ain't on IG live talking and all. Like, I don't want that. If you as a rapper got a problem with another rapper, or if you just feel like another rapper is not as dope as you, prove it. Get in the booth. Let's hear some bars. I'm always for the rat.

Yeah, that's what I'm, you know, it's hard for me to like do this because people feel like, ah, that nigga hating. Yeah, oh, they always gonna say that. Yeah, they always gonna say that. I'm trying to be, all right, the objective fan. But I'm just like, I'm, it's sport,

nigger, like any nigga on the court. I'm like, hey, let's hoop. Show me that you better than me. Show me why this motherfucker's so dope. Mm-hmm. Because I might not, I might not see it. Or I might be like, oh, he cold or, you know, I want to try my hand that, you know,

shooting a couple shots. Why I pick you over Jid is I've been a Jid fan for a long time but it's always been off music. He raps really well and makes really good songs and knows how to blend into a song while rapping really well, which is probably the hardest thing to do on fucking Earth.

I've seen you do that, plus I've been a fan of just your freestyle, destroy everything for a decade. Jid has done that before, but probably not the same clip as you. But I've also never seen either of you in a battle. So now I'm sitting here like,

I don't even know who I would pick because I've never seen either of y'all go. You better put your money on me, money. I'm telling you. Put your money on you. Lose your money because you never seen it publicly. No, I have seen my money get lost publicly. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. I make a bet with E or somebody. I buy somebody. Yeah, I make a bet. Barry my guy, that's his manager. Barry, we can do a bet. On Jid and Nick? Yeah.

And by the way, I love the Jid and offset record that's out right now. I'm excited that Jid is about to do this, but listen, if Jit want to get in the ring the way... Give me a line real quick. See, I don't like that. I don't like that. What, give me a line?

Spin a line from Jid. Don't do that. He did that to me. But that's Nick favorite thing. I don't like that. I'll be talking with this thing about some nicks. I'm like, yeah, he ought to be like, oh, give me a line.

Let me hear some. You know, it's funny, the strategy I use in arguments I hate when people do it to me. Because I say that. Of course. Knowing like, no, no, no, don't see, that's something fair. Give me any line he said. Records, albums, like, shit.

No, no, no, give me a line. Give me, like, some phenomenal line that a nigga said. Do we have voicemails? Yeah. All right. This is tell me what I need to know. Give me some crazy shit that I've said. You're one of you.

Voice mail, see? Let's keep it. I got a bunch of Nick Lines. Just off this last album, I took a person. I was listening to earlier today. You said, uh, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, my dad fell sick at 40, MD 2020,

something, something adding up. Niggas can't fuck with me, boy. That was hard. Can't fuck. No. That was hard.

That was hard. That was hard. I appreciate it. Nah, that nigga dope, man. I know. He's dope. Yeah,

I'm just talking shit. But not, but if you want to, I'm not just talking shit because I'm, I'm always prepared for whatever, but, nah, he dope.

I'm not taking nothing away from him. Is there any, what does Nick Grant's list of MCs that got it, that you want to see? Like, I got to, I got to, I want to get on the court with him. I got to see if he's, he's really as good as they say he is. Yo, I'm a Kendrick fan, bro. I like, you know, when he was talking to me like that, you know, I have the utmost respect for him.

But I also like, yo, I want to, I don't, I don't want to rap beef with the nigga. I'm just like, let's go back and forth. Yeah. Go back and forth on the verse. What do you think would be more valuable? Let's say, Jid, for example, since we just, you know, joking around with that.

Would y'all want to get on a record together? We did that already. I know, but I'm saying with this type of scenario. But he never put it out. Did it come up? See, I don't like that. It's not fair. Why?

Had it be objective. Jid, I mean, with labels, what's going on with his rollout and shit? No, no, I'm not saying it's jiz for. I'm just saying if two dope rappers, two dope emcees have a record together and it don't come out, I don't like that it didn't come out. I'm not saying, as a fan, I agree. I'm not saying Jid stopped it from coming out. Yeah, but you never know how that should get. That may not be like a thing Jid did, is all I'm saying.

I'm not saying he did. I'm saying I don't like the fact that we haven't heard that. Oh, that's the shit that. No, I haven't heard it. That's what I'm saying. I don't like that. I ain't heard it since we did it. Oh, you didn't get a bounce?

Oh, yeah, no, I feel the way. The song wasn't even finished. Yeah, I mean, I get that, but. I mean, he said he was going to do finish it later. Okay. And we never got it. Never got it. I don't like that.

See? I don't like that. Well, Jid notoriously takes his time with everything. Cool. That's like a very known thing. Cool. Behind the scenes. Like,

Jid takes his fucking time. I respect that. So, I'm just saying, if you say, yo, Jim. Man,

rap. No, I'm with you. Finish my question. I'm with you. What Joey and Daylight, Ray and all them, would you rather do that?

Or would you rather just get on one record to get? and see who could... I want to do that. I want to do what they were doing. Okay. All right, got you. I want to do what they was doing.

What do you all think is more valuable at this point? Monetarily. I think what they was doing was better. Monetarily, opportunity-wise, like, it's people that's never heard of Ray Vaughn. Facts. And I'm not saying he didn't get that RCA deal because of that whole thing, but it definitely helped.

Yeah, no, for sure. All that helps. And he's super smart for, like, engaging in that. But yeah, like I think I think that helped. I think that created like, oh, this is a new phase. This is a new, I think it even helped daylight. You know what I'm saying? This is going to hurt me to say because I'm here to be objective.

I think the only person that lost some of lore in that entire thing was daylight. No, he definitely lost. He lost for sure. But as far as like people know. We had daylight alien. You're up here. That was the first time I felt like daylight was human. I think it translates different on beach.

But I've heard Daylight rap on, we said before the whole thing popped off, I always felt surf and daylight were the two best battle rappers on beats. Like I've heard Daylight smoke some shit. No, for sure. That was, I was shocked that it went that way. I wasn't. Okay. I think it's just, I think when you battle in, it's just not cerebral. I just think it's like all style and, you know.

I think a nigger on the corner cracking jokes has more experience in the battle than somebody who's super cerebral. Why do you think it's different now with 50 doing how to rob in, I don't know what was that, 99, 2000, to now if you just wanted to actually, tonight, if you just went in this studio and dish jid with no real issue at all, just for the sport of it, you'd be looked at as a clout chaser. For sure. What happened in rap where that is the case? Because everyone used to just shoot each other with no reason to shoot each other. Everybody want to participation trophy. You know what I'm saying?

Everybody just want to, you know. When did that stop? That's the only reason why can't you just shoot at people. Why I've been holding back from a lot of people? Because I'm like, I don't want to be looked at as that guy. I still got to like. They still got a single out with a career. You know what I'm saying?

And I'm not going to let this person, you know, highlight what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? He just got to make sense. I got to make sense. And that's not just him, that's anybody. I mean, even with everything now, we get so much information. I don't think it'd be weird if two rappers agreed,

because we know what the Joey thing was behind the scenes for the most part. Everyone knew what type of time it was. It's not going to get violent. Like, we really just doing this for sport. Yeah. Why couldn't you and Jid again, for example, tell the world like, yeah, no, we cool. We just decided today.

We just want to rap against each other. Like, why can't that happen? Why would the public look at that weird? Like, yo, y'all doing weird shit. Nah, we just both think we can rap and we decided today that we was going to rap. Well, because now it's, you know, the beef or battle is looked at like a rollout

or like a clout. Where have y'all been? No, no, no. Listen, I told you, if we go back to the first hip-hop record, it might be a disc record. Did you guys just show up here? The first hip-hop record, the MC might be dissing somebody on that shit.

He might be dissing another MC on this. That's getting the time, baby. That's the foundation of this thing. That's what it is. What's wrong with that? No, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just this new generation of insecurities. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? Like, people like, the ego is like, it's different now. It's before social media. It's not constantly in your face. If a nigger win, you know what I'm saying? They're posting that for hours. Yeah. You can't even do the thing that you're addicted to.

You can't even look at this shit. Like, yeah. I'm caught up. like this is how they view on me. And you think it's the end of the world. Just as a rapper, you think it's the end of the world when you lose. You know what I'm saying? And then you got somebody telling you every second that you lost.

Yeah. It's tough. Yeah. I mean, but I've only seen that happen twice in my entire life. Mm. Tray King Kendrick. Mm-hmm. Jai Ruh and 50 cent.

And by the way, all four of those people are doing completely fucking fun. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. That's like on the other side of like, yeah. I've seen it happen twice. And guess what? All four of those gentlemen

But in the moment, it ain't cool. Yeah. No, I get it. I'm just saying everybody's fine. Yeah, man. It depends on what you fight for. I mean, the Jiam 50 shit is, I'm just about the rap shit. Yeah, for sure.

100%. I'm with you. Jai is doing fine. If you knew what Jai got for a fee to do a show. Yeah. You'd be like, wait, he got killed? Yeah, yeah, right. He lost?

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. His career was over? Yeah. That's hilarious. Yeah. But nah. And you see, I mean, shit. I thought Ray lost that to Joey

badass. Again, I think Ray put his hours in, the RCA deal, T-D-O-T-E relationship. I don't think it's just the battle, but look what came out of it. Ray ain't fucking lose. Right, right now, for sure. For sure. And even with Jid, like, again, we're just using this as an example.

He putting his single out with offset. Let's say he lost. Jid wouldn't fucking lose. He's Jid. He makes great music. I think that would just bring more hype around what was going on.

No one is doubting Jid's pen. No. Like, I'm not talking about Nick versus... I'm not even going to say a rapper. But, yeah. Like that, you know, somebody that could rap. You're not going to lose. Yeah. No, I think it's a...

It depends on how you're looking at it. You don't lose, but you're not going to lose. You know, when you... I'm kicking ass. Yeah, yeah. As an empty, you know, like, if he got me and he kicked my ass. But you're saying... And that hurts. That's a whole other thing.

Like, as artists that people were... At least me, like, I had a homeboy man when I was growing up. This motherfucker used to kick my ass. Yeah. Like every day. Come on, let's battle, let's battle, let's battle. I think the last time we battled, like, we'll always go back and forth. But he was like ready every day.

I'm like, man, we got battle again today. He kept me on my shit. Yeah. Last time we battle, I got him. But he was the guy that made me, like, super sharp, like young. And I just think, man, we lost that, man. That's what I be telling you's just rap, bro. Just rap.

That's actually the only good thing about this microwave era. Like, shit, even when we have like bad pod episodes, fans be like, yo, this week sucked. I'm like, we're coming back three or four episodes next week. We'll be back in 48 out. Yeah. There's so much redemption in this microwave era that I think people forget about. Right.

Like, this Joey badass race, that was great. People are going to move on. They move on. on, right? Super fast. We care about what your next shit is at this point. So yeah, you could go out and battle anybody. And if you lose, I promise, you'll be fine if you continue putting out dope shit.

I want to see it. I want to see you with J-I-D. trade. You don't want to see that. I want to see that. Yeah, I want to see it. Why not? I was speaking in general, but yeah.

No, I want to see it, though. I would love to see that. The hip-hop head in me, you ever seen Mike when he had the ball and he was doing this? See? See. He had the ball like he was keeping away from the little nick

You know All right See all right Now that's why I want to see You see the shit That Nick talking I want to see that As a hip-hop consumer

I need to see that All these things I'm gonna say this Everybody know though Everybody knows Yeah They know Everybody knows

You know what it be though Cameras on motherfuck Yeah Yeah What you need Yeah Raise your motherfucking boys

Nah I'm butt I tell you I'm what? Yeah. Come on, let's do a record. Yeah, send it to me.

I got you, bro. Yeah. Fake kicking it. Yeah, man, I don't be liking that shit, I don't like that. Yeah, you know, because I'm a nigga of my word.

If I say, I got you, I got you. It might not be in the time frame you want me to do it. Right. But I'm going to do it. I'm going to get to it.

I'm going to get to it. I'm going to get to it. You gave me a 12-hour turnaround. Yeah. You shut up to the studio in 12 hours. I was like, yeah. I just like to rap, though.

I just love rapping. When, lose, draw, I just want to rap. I feel like that makes, you know, that makes me better. That makes the artist better. That makes hip-hop better. That makes the culture better. That makes, you know, that keeps everybody in tune. That keeps everybody happy.

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No, it's going to be great. Me and P's were kicking it, trying to think of a segment. I'm not going to say that Chad, JBT, helped us out, but maybe they did. So we came up with this idea of bars versus Yelp. Yeah. Bars versus Yelp. Can you decide if this is a rat bar or if this is a Yelp review is how our segment is going to go here? Okay.

I might get all of these wrong. because this is going to be funny though because if I feel like a bar is a is a yelp review that's fucking hilarious so in our first segment of bars versus yelp featuring nick grant we're going to start at number one you guys can look at the screen I paid $80 for brunch and still left hungry I hope a rap that's yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I hope nigga I hope so you guys gonna get yourself in some beef yeah look look you know I know the answer to you that's why I said I hope I'll tell us the rapper, though. No, you guys have to guess.

Is this a rapper or a Yelp review? No, I'm saying. After, if we wrong and the rapper said it. Oh, I'm going to tell you guys. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm going to tell you the city and star review. No, we didn't make any of this up. These are real Yelp reviews and real rap reviews.

I'm going to say, I'm going to say Yelp. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I paid $80 for brunch and still left hungry. I'm going to say that's Yelp. That is a bar. Larry June, breakfast in my. Monica. Larry said that? Lifestyle rap.

I get it. I get it. I get it. I fuck with him, though. I fuck with Larry. I should have known that bar. I fuck with him. The wings were mid, but the eye contact was rare.

Now, that better not be yope. They better not be totally. I'm going to say that's a bar. The wings were mid. The wings were mid, but the eye contact was rare. Yeah, that might be a bar. They're running a little bit. That sounds like a bar.

It sounds like a setup to something else. Yeah. You are wrong. That is a real four-star review to a dive bar in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. What? The only reason I'm not putting the restaurants is because we did that last time. Yeah, yeah. So I'm, I'm, these are real.

I promise. I'm just going to put the locations. But the eye contact was rare. Whoever said, that nigga need to be a rapper. That's what I'm saying. He's got some shit to get off. I fuck with that. Yeah, I fuck with that.

The wings were made, but the eye contact was rare. All right, number three. That's hard. The lobster was unseasoned, but the breakup was well done. The lobster was under seasoned, but the breakup was well. Fam, if this is a Yelp review, there's some niggas out here that's dope. Spin, right? The lobster was under seasoned, but the breakup was well done.

Hey, that might be, I'm going Yelp. I'm going bar. Nick is in fact, correct. This is three-star review. on a very famous seafood spot in Miami. You know I got it, though, because it sounds like the last thing. It's the same nigga leave me. The lobster was underseason, but the breakup was well done.

It sounded like the last, motherfucker. All right, next one. The bill came and so did the silence. The bill came and so did the silence. That's a bar. Oh, yeah, that's a bar. The bill came and so did the silence. That's a bar.

That's our guy, IDK, crying, church. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, yeah, because I, yeah, I heard a nigga say something. like that like yeah bitch getting the phone when the bill comes yeah that's a bar that's a bar that's a bar next one the burger fell apart in my hands just like the last relationship that's yo that's yeah that's yeah that's the same nigga

this was a two-star review in Portland Oregon the burger fell apart in my hands just like my last relationship yeah that's yo yeah that's yo because the nigger better not be rapping by the burger yeah that's afraid Yeah, no, that's yo. That's definitely yo. We're going to stay on theme with this next one.

She talked over the waiter, then over my heart. That's a bar. That's a bar. That's a bar. That don't even, who are you seeing? Who are you talking? We already saw, though, in Yelp reviews. They be leaving like real deep reviews.

This is a bar. Yeah, because this ain't even about the restaurant. Yeah, this is a bar. Yeah, this is a bar. That's Mick Jenkins, Martyrs. Absolutely. That's a bar. The table next to us got their food faster

and their relationship seemed healthy. that's yo. Oh, that's yelp. Oh, I thought that was a hard bar. It could be a bar. That's yelp. That's a brunch spot in the Lower East Side. Are you saving these restaurants? Because we got to go. Yes. Yeah, we got to go to these spots. This shit is crazy. We got to these spots. Josh, next one. I got a room at the top. The view was mid. The steak was cold. The waiter had an attitude. That's yelp. I got a room at the top. The view mid. The steak was cold. And the waiter had an attitude. So I'm going to say that's Yelp. Yelp.

That's Freddie Gibbs, real. What? I got a room at the top of the view of the stage. You know, that's great. I had to, like, take out bars so you guys couldn't realize everything rhymed. So you can't see the scheme. But, yeah, no, that's what I'm like, that thing don't even rhyme like that.

No, it does rhyme when you. All right. I want to know what Freddie said right after that. Yeah. We can pull up the real lyrics. See, I want to know what Freddie said right after that. All right. Next one.

too much pepper on the shrimp not enough soul on the gumbo oh that's yelp too much pepper on the shrimp not enough soul in the gumbo damn I want to say that's a bar too much pepper on the shrimp not enough soul in the gumbo

that's yelp if you thought it was a bar who would you think it would be too much pepper on the shrimp not enough gold in the gumbo that might be two chains that'd be a great guess this is in fact not a yelp review

This is a bar. This is Big Crip, my sub part too. Oh, shit. That's a big Crip bar all day. Shit. See, I was, I thought,

that sound like a two chains bar. Too much pepper on the shrimp, not enough soul in the gumbo. And the inflection, too much, yeah, he would, too much pepper on the shrimp.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not enough in the gumbo. All right, next one. The chicken pink, but I ain't complain. She cooked it with love. I took it with the pain.

Oh, that's a bar. Or this is to throw y'all off. Nah, that's a bar. All right. See, but Roy, that's see now, hold on. See, that's why this is whack. Because if you adding sauce to it and it's a Yelp review and you're making it like a ball, that's fucked up.

We didn't set the rules for this. This is our first time doing this segment. The chicken pink is funny, though. The chicken pink, but I ain't complained. And I'm trying to hear it like in a rapper's voice. The chicken pink, but I ain't complain. I said, yo, review. I took it with pain.

Let me know what you say bar. I don't say bar. I'm going to say bar. That's Conway the machine. Forever dropping tears. Yeah, that's a bar. That's a bar. That's a bar.

All right, next one. I asked for no onions and she gave me a lecture on character. That might be, that might be yelled. That's for show you. I thought that would be the fire part of the last bar ever. I was going to steal that. She might have knew him. That's crazy.

That's a real Yelp review from an Oakland vegan soul spot. Yo. Oh my God. Yo. I asked her for no onions and she gave me a lecture on character. That's hilarious. You know, that's crazy you found, dude. How are you finding you?

You seem to be like in a coffee book. Like a coffee book on a coffee table. All right, next one. I got high and cried into a chicken sandwich. That got to be a bar. That's yoke. That's yoke. Nobody's saying that on yope.

I got high crying to a chicken. That's a bar, man. That got to be a fucking bar. Who you think it be from? I got high and cried into a chicken sandwich. That got to be my man. That got to be either action. Either action bronching or.

Damn. What's my man? What's, damn, what's, I'm fucking going, blah. What's my man from New Orleans? Currency. Currency. Yeah.

Currency has a lot of food. Yeah. All right. So this is in fact a five-star Yelp review. What? I'm going to say the restaurant because it's the chain. It's from Harold's chicken in Chicago. Oh, my God.

I got high crowded to a chicken sandwich is a real yelp review me and p jep definitely gotten high and cried to a chicken sandwich together in Chicago that is because why are you saying that in the rap that's crazy all right next one the rice ain't done the beans still hard and the cool it tastes like cardboard I hope that's yoke that scheme is that if not I need to hear the rest of that scheme right that's yelp that's yelp that if you guys were to guess there's some spots that serve cool it for sure if you guys were to guess what rapper would be, who would you think? The rice ain't done.

The beans still hard and the Kool-Aid tastes like cardboard. Kool-Aid, rice and beans. Pedy Crack. Ross. That's Boosie badass. Mind of a maniac. This is a real bar.

It could only be Boosie. It could only be Boosie. Kool-Aid got to be booze. That's said, though. It's so detailed. And Boosey make the best Kool-Aid. How would not pick that? Oh, I should have known that.

All right, next one. What that nigga said? Wala, they go that shit. Yeah, yeah. Now, that's Boosy. Yeah, that's crazy. She left her feelings in the Uber with my leftovers. That's a bar.

That's a bar. She left her feelings in the Uber. Nick kind of been batting a thousand. He can tell when shit is outside of the Boosie shit. He's told everything correctly. That's a bar. Yeah, that's a ball. Yeah, it's Brent Fires, Lush.

Okay. You kind of see how that niggas is right in it. Yeah. She left her feelings in the Uber See, I don't know if you're leaving shit out though So I'm still like No, no, no, I didn't edit anything I just took out like the schemes on certain shit

Yeah, yeah, yeah But, no, I mean That I would write that In a heartbeat. You never felt that way? No, for sure. But at the same time, You realize people on Yelp now

are like doing this type of shit Right. They're putting reviews like in bar form. Yeah, that's crazy. All right, next one. The room smells like broken dreams and champagne. Oh, that's a bar.

The room smelled like broken. I have been to restaurants to smell like this stuff. Hold on. Hold on. Let me take that back. Nah, because this could be a hotel review.

That could be a club review too. The room smelled like, no, it's the room. So that's like a hotel room. It smelled like broken dreams. Private room at a restaurant. Okay. The room smelled like broken dreams of champagne.

I'm going to say that's a bar. I'm going to say that's a Yelp review. Most correct. That's Freddie Gis Scottie Bean. There you go. The room smelled like broken dreams of champagne. All right, the next one is a little easy, but it's for fun.

Ordered surf and turf with a tech in my lap. That better be a bar. If not, they're coming to look for him. It might be on a surfing turf with a tech in my lap. That might be the hardest one. Yeah. I don't know which one. That's a bar, though.

That is, in fact, a Yelp review left by Conway the Machine. Get your fuck out of here. Nah, that's Conway's first three. Yeah. Next one. I ordered that Alfredo pasta, then ate it in the kitchen. Oh, that's a bar. Yeah, that's a bar.

I ain't let niggas in the kitchen. Yeah, that's a bar. Drake, no telling. Yeah, that's a bar. Gotta have some privilege go back there, then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fun. Yeah, you're just eating it. No, but it's funny.

The Yelp reviews that I left off this is a lot of men bragging about what they did for their bitches. In the restaurant, yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Like, all the shit, I was like, it wouldn't even be fun because it sounds like straight up bars. Yeah. That shit sounds like hove lines in some of these yelp reviews. Yeah, nah, I need these in a book, though, for the coffee table, though.

All right, next one, Josh. I order two plates, more for the duck fat than the taste. I order two plates. Just because it rhymed don't mean... Yeah. Yeah, it could be anything. Just because you don't understand them. Don't mean that he nice.

Just because he wear a coofy. It don't mean that he bright. I order two plates, more for the duck fat than the taste. I'm going to say that's a bar. Man, that's a Yelp review. Ma's in fact correct. That's Action Bromton brunch. Yeah.

Next one. Order the grouper. Tell the chef, I'm serious. That's Westside. Man, that's not Westside. That does sound like Westside. It's not Westside, but it's... Ordered the grouper tell a chef, I'm serious.

I'm serious. Boom, boom. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to say that's a bar. That's Rick Ross, Triple Platinum. Yeah. Ordered the grouper tell the chef, I'm serious. All right, we get into the last five.

Now I feel like we should do head-to-head, pause. Okay. Because you guys have, Nick smoked you in the first half, but you've definitely redeemed yourself. All right. Oh, and it's easy for more now. I ate some well-done seared scallops that were to die for.

That's Drake, right? 100%. Yeah, that was the easiest one. Yeah, that don't count. Scallops, anytime you hear seared scallops, that were to die for. Yeah, Drake is the only thing to rap about seared scallops. Another rap ain't get that old.

all. All right. Next one, Josh. The chicken was dry, but not as dry as her personality. That's yelp. That's definitely yoke. Yeah, you couldn't put a bar together? That would sound that good?

No, but I could tell that that was yelp, though. Oh, damn, I feel bad now. I thought that would be one that was stump y'all. Nah. That is a real three-star review from a Harlem soul food restaurant that we both know. Amy Rooves. Got to be. No.

What? Not Melba's. Melba's? No. You guessed it correctly the first time? Oh, okay. The vibe was off, but the lighting was amazing. That's yo.

Yo. That's yoke. That's Tyler the creator. Best interest. Oh, shit. Nigger, rap about the lighting. The lighting was amazing. Okay.

Flux lights. All that for salad in a salad ride home. All that for a salad and a solid ride home. By the way, I feel like this would, if mall wrapped, This would be his bar. Yeah, for sure. This is a bar. And a silent ride home.

I'm going to say this is yelp. That's some life experience shit. Facts. This was in the car, quiety, paid for the meal. You take a bar? You take a bar? That's a bar. Okay.

This is from a West Hollywood spot that only sells lunch. Why this review was so funny to me was he spent a whole silent ride home with the sun out. Like, I've had bad dinner dates where like shit ain't go well. Like, yo, I drop you off in the Uber two stops type thing. No, it's 2 p.m. We just going from Earth Cafe. You're just like Earth Cafe.

It's just like Earth Cafe. I'm still like, you know, you left a review in the Uber with a silent chick when the sun was out. All right, we get into the bottom here. I don't even like oysters, but she wanted the experience. That's a bar. Hold on. That's a bar. That's a bar.

That's definitely a bar. I don't follow this motherfucker. I don't even like oysters. Yeah, that's a bar. Yeah, that's a bar. This is a one-star. Oh, my God. And there was an explanation.

He got dumped mid-appetizer while she was eating the oysters. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. Damn. Wow. Last one we could close out Should have got the lobster motherfucker

Should have ordered the lobster The cook got my order wrong But the blunt made it better That's a bar And you know who that's from You already guessed it with Yeah that's gun Nah

That's not That's currency Oh shit The cook got my order wrong But the blunt Yeah But the blunt made it better That's definitely currency

Shout out to spit up man All right That was cool man I like that I like that Yeah we did a little too much But Yeah I like it though

Yeah I think there's a new segment We got Nicky He's an MC, so yeah, it's cool. It's cool that we got a lot of them. I lost the last one. Yeah. He fucked me up with that one.

Yeah, the cook got my order on, but the blunt made it better. All right. You know I already started plotting with Pige of bars or porn hub comments. Oh, wow. That's going to be the next one that we were plotting one. That's a good one. That's fire. All right, Nick, I took it personal available now on DSPs.

Congratulations on a phenomenal project. I appreciate that, man. Thank you. Stream that, download that. follow Nick, Nick Grant music on Twitter and is the same on IG? Nick Grant 88 on IG follow real rap, real bars

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