New Rory & MAL - Offset talks "KIARI" & Migos Winning EVERY Verzuz

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

We got Offset on the pod for a very special bonus episode to talk how he got a bunch of doppelgängers to pull off a stunt in Times Square, guess whether lyrics were written by Sabrina Carpenter or Future, and explain why the Migos would wipe everyone in a Verzuz #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. The volume. All right. Today we are back, back joined by another friend of the show, somebody that we probably talked about the last 15 years of our lives,

I guess, something like that. It's been that long? Probably. Well, it's feel like we've been podcasting for like 20 years. Yeah. At this point. Yeah.

Gentlemen that we've been talking about, stable in the culture, one third of the most iconic, most fashionable, most legendary groups in hip-hop history. But now, you know, obviously stepping out doing his own thing. And he's here to join us today to talk some shit,

talk some music, talk some culture, talk a lot of the things that, you know, we like to talk about here today today. Today we are joined by Gwinnett County Legend. Offset. You did. Live studio audience. All right.

So before we get started, I have to ask what happened in Times Square last night because it kind of looked like Jonestown a bit. I wasn't sure if you were starting a cult if people were sacrificing themselves. I just saw a lot of littered bodies laid out and there wasn't much context. You had some funny Times Square yesterday.

Yeah, we put the bodies on the floor, shots of content, I mean? It was me just letting the world know I'm coming with the album. Yeah. Embrace themselves. Yeah. So I was not in Times Square, but what I was reading and saw, you also had some, quote-unquote, Doppler gangers. Can you walk me through the

casting process of trying to find your twins? Yeah, who didn't make it? Who did you see like, like, nah, he don't look like it? And who on your team was like, nah, he looked like, then you got offended. Like, nah, I don't look like that. There's a lot of my folks I ain't look like. We just tried to make everybody, like, coordinate with the clothes and shit.

Like, they didn't make it like, not, it's just, it's just different versions. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just like how I'm coming on the album of me. That's why I need yourself, tied to the name, my real name. Like, different versions of me through my career. no just raw though yeah I mean last time we saw you

we saw you with uh was used with kai yeah at the crib with kai you're like you had a lot of fun yeah that's people don't see that side of you like people don't know that side of offset they think rappers they think Atlanta they're like oh this nigga gonna come in gooned up serious you went in there you had a lot of fun you was dancing like what was that energy like did you go in and

know like we about to go in here just act a fool have fun no I was just I went in like just be yourself like I felt like people thought I was too serious you know yeah yeah and And them niggas is funny, though. Yeah. So they create the environment and just bouncing off their energy. Them niggas be turned.

So I feel like it'd be off balance when niggas going there trying to be cool and shit. That ain't for that. That channel is like. Yeah, you can't go in Kaid's crib, serious. Like a goon sleepover is a very weird. That's a nasty sleepover. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah.

But why do people think that about you? Like, why do people get this feeling that offset as this serious, you know? I think it's because beginning of my career. I was going to look crazy. Then I ain't know. internet that like I don't I'm not I'm not showing you me on the internet unless you have to see okay on some shit like that I'm not going I don't know I just maybe I should but I don't like going live and like just showing I don't be doing that so so often because at one time I feel

like just too much exposure yeah yeah yeah yeah now the last year the last year I've had a rough year I would say online like my name they was killing me for shit wake up every day I'm looking at my phone like I never even said that I never even did that I never even did that. Yeah. What's some of the most misleading things that you've opened your phone and just was like, what? Like, why y'all think that about me? Like, what's some of the crazy

shit? Um. Because it's some shit out there about it and I'm like, bro, he didn't say that. I know. Yeah, it'd be a lot of cap-ass shit. Yeah, yeah. That I said, like, somebody said, uh, I said, um, I said some should like, stop referring me as a husband or some, some weird shit.

That, um, I mean, we should want to get your pronouns correct. That's all. Or it was just like, niggas just be saying like, it was just like click back. Like, I don't know, Titsa started this little thing where like, nigga be talking.

So this is the reason why offset is not going to. Yeah. And they know your whole life and they got it all wrong. That should be kept. Yeah. I feel like it just come with it.

It just come with it. It is what it is. Yeah, I mean, listen, Rory, I spoke to Rory last year a lot through all of that shit. And I was like, bro, what the fuck?

This internet shit? I thought I had it figured out. Oh, no. It's a crazy fucking world. I tried to tell you to do the best strategy to say your Twitter was hacked. Yeah, I tried that, but that don't always work. But, like, what's some of the things you do to be like, how do you, how do you detach from the grid? How do you detach on the Matrix and be like, all right, man, I know who I am, my people know who I am.

That's all that matters. But you're somebody that has been such a big figure in the culture on social media for years. How do you navigate around the bullshit? I just don't let it control like how I'm thinking about myself and doing shit like with music and shit

because I don't let it let me get lost in it because I don't see it outside of the internet so for instance I drop the record bodies streams going crazy I don't see like a deflation and none of my shit so that's what keep me like okay it's not real

it's that entertainment shit it's the entertainment aspect of it but what I do with it is like oh niggas talk crazy Oh, it's crazy, crazy. Oh, your Google search 8 100%. Drop a song. Oh, because I'm having good product.

Gotcha. See what I'm saying? Yeah. I got good products. They're in line for something, so let me give them something. Give them a little taste of. Okay. Okay, that makes sense.

How do you think the internet is going to react to the opening record enemies where you say that you love hard, but you're also toxic? Because coming out the gate that way, I was like, oh, you're trying to start some bullshit. I see where this album is going. And not to paint the picture, but I listen to that in the shower. I was just like, I don't know if I said Paul. I don't know if Offs of the King,

if that's how he should be coming into the record because it's kind of like, people are going to be like, word? I identify with that, though. No, I get it too. I think most men get that, but I don't know if Offset should lead the album with that bar. I'm down coming. Shit, it's the truth.

Okay. I mean, people are going to, I feel like saying that shit, like it's the truth. Niggas feel that. People feel like girls feel that, both sides feel that. Because, like, everybody dealing with that, then dealt with that. like bring a little excitement to the relationship sometimes

Did you feel like you had to be a little bit more personal on this project Just because of what everyone pays attention to Yes and no I learned from okay father foe when I dropped that first solo one I got a big ass fan base because I was actually talking about some shit I had context to the music It was different It was my kids

It was ups and down to the car crash And so I just looked at that book Even though Sit It Off did great numbers too but like touching people and people like when I hear people quote my solo shit they quote that motherfucker and so it was like

I wanted to put context I didn't want to because like at the day you still like you're on the screen so I don't talk online so I talk in the music you know what I mean and I feel like

people go and hear what I got to say about certain shit and certain shit and they're going to think I'm on certain bullshit and I really ain't too much on bullshit but I'm just being a man about shit like balance

you can be a bullshit That's all that song. It's still like me saying, taking my accountability for certain things to happen. Is that why it was a true feeling? A year in between? Because, I mean, you were on a pretty quick cycle

with the solo joints in 2024. He was, I mean, quiet for the most part. Is that you where... Life's going on. And I'd be believing in timing. Like, the eyes weren't so on me. They own me now. So now I'm about to get to you.

It just makes sense. Like, I take all, anything that come with this shit. and try to turn into music. How often do you think about when you're in the album mode, like how often do you think about writing, or is it just something like you got to just spur of the moment, I'm going to the studio tonight,

or it's like when it's album mode, everything else is just like on the backburn. It's like, now I'm in album mode, or you make your album, like, if I get inspired tonight, I'm going to the studio right now. Kind of both. If I get inspired, I'm going to studio. But when it's album time, it's like a different mode.

like I'm trying to see what the fuck the story is in this project what is what picture I'm painting with this with this what they're going to get from this so then they get to breaking down the songs and saying that's how I've narrate picking my songs and shit because if it ain't matching a story of like me being me myself raw kind of like not I don't want to say vulnerable but it ain't sad shit but it's like saying shit I would never say on this project Have you done that often?

And then the record comes out And you hear and you're like, I hate that I said that Because you don't really feel that way. Like how often does that happen for you? It happens. It happens Not all the time, but A recent drop I did that.

When I dropped that record 10, I just like, I shouldn't do that one. I didn't really fuck the record like that. It was more of me not being a player and kind of being spiteful. No spiteful records don't work Or shit like that Like spiteful records don't work

How quickly after the release Did you feel that way Of like damn Maybe I shouldn't have done this Probably like two days Damn So it was like immediate Yeah

Not even off what people saying though Is it like You didn't really feel that Like that's not what you really felt I was trying to No not that But it was It just wasn't

It wasn't to play Like Yeah It was no story to that shit It was no like music drive to that. The fans wouldn't, that wasn't, it was just me doing some shit. I can say that.

I was just doing some shit. Trying some shit. What's one of the biggest things you want people to take from Offset as far as like a rap? Because from years, you know, all of the records with Migos, like, you know, the joints that y'all gave us, we always kind of recognize that it's been a conversation like, like, Offset really be saying some shit. Like, y'all having fun, y'all, y' y'all, y' y'all styling and, you know, y'all getting y'all fly shit off. but it's like when we listen to offset

it's like the whole love he kind of like he seemed like he just being a different part of the room like really trying to get some shit off as a solo artist now you have more space to kind of be offset obviously what's one of the things you want people to take from this project in particular about you as a rapper

as about you as a writer and an artist that people probably don't know about offset my craft like to take it serious like the hours I be putting in and like I break you so much shit down the detail, even like the sequence of my songs and like the art inside of the music. Too, like I like to paint the picture

because I feel like people don't get shit sometimes. So you gotta put it in their face and the shit they go behind that. Like last album I had Jamie Lee Curtis doing shit like me reaching out myself personally to this is a start. Getting Jamie Lee Curtis is a flex. Come on now.

I'm working on some other shit now. Yeah, yeah. You feel down, working on some other shit now. That's a flex. Yeah. The shit that behind. to see any work, niggas never see

what niggas got to do to try to please you. Right. To please y'all. Right. Because I study the game. That's why I don't drop so much because I just got to see

what the fuck going on. Because I feel like I'm, like you said, I come from such a heavy background, I can't, it's no hiccups. They can't drop no bullshit. Right.

You ain't able to come back from that. It'd be too hard to come back with that. So sometimes I strategize and see what the folks for me. Yeah, you don't have a luxury because you're under a microscope that's so big. They're waiting for you to drop some bullshit.

Yeah, waiters. So it can't do that. You know how many, when I drop bodies, how many ticots? I'm like, I'm saying like, I ain't gonna lie. I wanted to be, but I can't say. Yeah. I mean, as a spokesperson for all of the whites, we did feel seen when you sampled bodies at the floor.

Like, I really was like, yo. Yeah, that's what you're talking about. You were thinking about me? Yeah. Me and Pige, was that morning that shit came out? We was jamming in the studio. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's our shit. That's the white boy shit.

Was that intentional of picking that? sample? No, honestly vinyl, shout out to Vinos. Shout out the best producers.

That name is cold. He's so cold. Yeah. Vinos is my man Evans. He made it with him. Vino's sent it

to me. I sent it to my... Now, I made that record two years ago. Oh, shit. Okay. So when I made the record, he'd been pressing

me for that shit for two years. Like, what the fuck is you doing, brother? You know, the sample we got alone is one of the ones. And niggas don't get this sample.

And then my shot of the reservoir in my publishing. They on same team they on they on reservoir too and shout out to them man they was easy to worry with it cleared it they fucked with the record I hit them on the DM 2 yo trying to get this record clear man with who we did that shit immediately so yeah shout out to them now we was listening to the joint on that but good yeah we listened to the joint last night

I told you to love you down that's my shit yeah I mean that sample is you know that's that's that's the 80s that's my error that's going back but that's to me it's point of the records that I think everybody's gonna fuck with I think every Every woman on social media is going to post that song at least once on that algorithm. When you heard that, was that a no-brainer like, oh, we definitely. I can show the text. I've seen it. I'm scrolling on Instagram.

And I've seen the original being live performed. I send it to London on the tray. Like, as like, share this link, share this to them. I said, sample this. Put this in the front. I got all the text. Put this in the front. And don't muffle it.

Don't put it in the background. make this stand out off rips. So start the song off like this. Then put, Let Me Love You Down throughout the record, literally got the text, how I did it, because you sent it back the first time. I was like, nah, turn that shit up. Because this part, my mama, my grandma,

my auntie, everybody knows this part right here. Right, right. And so put this right here, and then when I played it out, I first did a verse, and I just stopped, and I just had the beach, stop him. And then I called him back, like, hey, put that same shit in the middle of this motherfucker, let it breathe, and then I'm going to come back in

with a different flow. And that's how I did it. That's cool producing. ladies and gentlemen. I don't know if people out there know what that. Like he's not just texting, you know what I'm saying?

Saying dumps. He's producing a record at that point. It was good to see you with Tizo. How did that record come together? Tzo touchdown. Tizo touchdown. He always... Incredibly talented.

He's a shot of me. Yeah. And he got that old school edge with him. It makes sense that you and Tizo would, yeah, would connect though. And he would take it there. So, like, video, anything.

I feel like he, he ain't got no fear with his shit. His creator's book so open. He'd go anywhere. Like, anywhere. with it and I respect his vocal game. Like his sound is different. It sounds older to me.

It sounds like some older shit to me. But it's sound different. And the whole purpose on my album, I wanted to work with niggas that, I feel like nigg's getting recycled right now. Yeah. Same songs. Same thing.

Same features. Same features. And I wanted to go different route. Like, because I feel like collaboration probably be like, you deal with somebody that, you work with somebody that's unexpected. Like the jid.

Yeah. Jid doesn't, that nink going to walk something. Yeah. Just had to find the pocket. And we found the pocket. and it go crazy. And then like the low-key niggas like that be having their own fan base too.

Like solid spam base. Oh, yeah. You got a core fan base. And it's, it's crazy, just shows the versatility of Atlanta. Because that record still sound Atlanta as far. And y'all are two totally different rappers in that regard,

but nothing weird on that shit at all. But Teezo, I'm curious to see what that video is going to look like. You going to put on some football pads? No, I might let him do that, though. He got a year, yeah. You know, I'm going to have a tease. You know what I'm going to let teams do that?

Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna come through that with something drippy. Yeah. I put something together, which I didn't even tell them all, somewhat of a bando ballet, if you will. I was looking up Sabrina Carpenter lyrics just in general because I like that. Now, hold on, before we get it to that, did you see the clip where I said, because now we was talking about you,

and I said, yo, you know what all I said you do. I didn't see that to after. Okay. He manifested your entire love. No, but the thing that fuck Rory up is because, when that came out, PJ at the child, I was like, damn, all you called it. And I just started laughing.

Rory didn't know I actually said Sabrina Carpenter. He thought I just said a white girl. Because I think all white women look alike. I said, nah, I said, Offset got to go get Sabrina Carpenter. I said, he's going to piss everybody over if you do that.

And sure enough to come out, they said, Offset says he has a crush on Sabrina Carpenter. I said, here you go. Stop here. I said, my niggas, get up. Piss everybody off. And they dropped the fucking album, man. I was hoping that there would be some secret feature

somewhere like back in the day when you would skip through to the bonus track. She'd be there. But I do think that there could be like a bando ballet joint album between the two of you. But when I was looking up her lyrics trying to like get to know some of her music, I like, yo, this might be one of the most toxic white women I've ever heard in my life. Sabrina would be talking crazy. So then I decided to put a segment together to ask you guys if you can guess whether this is future lyrics or Sabrina Carpenter lyrics.

Or future Sabrina Carpenter lyrics. All right, we'll start with the first one. Now I'm a homewrecker. I'm a slut. I got death threats filling up semi-trucks. That got to be Sabrina. Future ain't going to say he is. He might say he's a slut, but he ain't.

I'm going to Sabrina. Wait, say it again. I'm a home wrecker. I'm a slut. I got death threats filling up semi-trucks. Oh, they got to be Sabrina. Wait, wait. I don't know.

I got deaf. You said, well, I got death threats filling up semi-trucks. I'm going to go future. I don't think Sabrina has death threats. She ain't going to say deaf threats. Yeah. She did. That's Sabrina Carpenter. Nah. No, she's toxic as fuck.

Swear. All right. Go to the next one. My clothes are off. I'm coming over to your place. And if you don't need my love, I didn't want your bitch ass anyway. Now, if that's Sabrina, we got to have a different conversation about Sabrina Carpenter. I'm going to just say future.

I'm going to say future. What you're saying? I'm gonna say Sabrina That's Sabrina I listen to Sabrina She'd be talking that person That's what I'm telling you I was going through lyrics

Like this woman is insane All right I can hear your tears When they drop over the phone Get mad at you That's future Okay All right well

There we go Why you always come running to me Fuck my life Never heard of self care Half your brain Just ain't even there I heard it in a future cadence Is that future?

No it's Sabrina What? Bro, listen, how are we not hearing these? Are these singles? You know what we're happening? I think the records, they be pop records, so they be so... It's the music. They're like, huh.

Yeah, we caught up in the music, but what you're saying is toxic as fuck. All right. Woke up this morning thought I'd write a pop hit. How quickly can you take your clothes off like a pop quiz? I'm just going to say future. Future. That is Sabrina Carpenter. What?

She's talking. This one might be tough for y'all. So crack to a pregnant lady, forgive me for the crack babies. That's definitely crazy. If that's the Sabrina carpenter line, we got to get her out of here. Like, she's so crack? Like, come on, man. Jesus Christ.

That is in fact future. I didn't want to stump you on that one. Did she see the clip? Did her team reach out in response to you saying? Because we have a bed in the office. I'm like, yo, I'm like, offset going to pop out on the dinner date with Sabrina. Oh, no. I don't know.

Did they reach out? I don't know if they reached out. They did this thing went on the date with Sabrina Coppincy. Is that how, like, celebrities actually date now? Just be, did PR teams putting it together? Yeah, well, I mean... We should bring the PR team on the couch to ask.

Well, most of the times, that's the easier way to reach out is through the PR team. But sometimes it'll be, you know, a cold DM. We've seen instances with people like, you know, how you start a date? And he was like, you all, just DM does? Just certain status of women you don't DM player. How do you differentiate that, though?

Like, how does somebody, like, offset, say, damn I can't I'm gonna assume no artists no artists because it don't read right I don't even want to hit no DM to no female

to do a song because it just don't read right that's what I was going to say do you even DM rep and read right it don't my rep and then rewrite don't go together

I'm already knowing that so I'd rather go through like for doing music I'm not DM and no female to my hey let's do a song I just feel like it read wrong yeah that screenshot

If she decide to post that one day out of spite, it just reasons. Because if you got to think like that, because like you say, if it was, right, what the people are going to say what you're trying to do? Yeah. Like, I mean, they're trying to run. But I think that's fucked up because I think there's plenty of artists, yourself included. They probably just want to work with a female artist to just make music. Yeah. Like, it's not, there's nothing attached to it.

Bro. Yo, got this drop, just drop the album. Let's get in. But female artists, definitely not because it's a risk. I respect you too. So I don't even want to de respect you and it's like making it look like I'm trying to come across the wrong way. Yeah. because I'm really trying to get his record down.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm snitching a little bit here. But once I found out there was producers just doing sessions with chicks of records they was never going to clear. That was just their way in. I was like, y'all, y'all might be the nastiest people. Oh, the industry is crazy.

Like, you just invited chicks to the studio for records that's never going to come out. She's not even dope. Yeah, no, I sign. You don't even, you don't think anything is talented about it. Oh, she's not talent. She looks good. That's all, you know how that shit go. So who was somebody.

guys that you wanted to work with that it hasn't happened yet? Like some of the artists that you're like, damn, I got to get a joint with them? Andre3,000 for sure. Just so that's a dream collab. I mean, I feel like it was the best thing. Shit, they ever came out Atlanta. They came out harder. Do you feel like that?

Because we've seen, we've seen this generation now. They give, you know, Atlanta gives more credence and more... Outcast is always on the list. Outcast is the greatest group of all time, but that's just my opinion. But there's this people that have like, they hold a higher, you know, kind of respect for future than they do Andre 3000. Now, this generation.

And you can understand it. 3,000 hasn't been as active. But you're from the generation. But he come from them. Yeah, he's done. Oh, 100%. 100%. But there's the thing where people be like, I don't even know $100,000.

It's future. And I'm like, but being from Atlanta, you got to know $100,000. I don't care how old you. I think he's one of the artists. that you have to know is held here. Yeah. But there's a lot of, there's a younger generation now that's like... They don't know him though, so you can't follow them.

I mean, they don't know him. Yeah, but I didn't know Marvin Gay either though. Like, I wasn't outside for Marvin Gaye, but as I, as you go through music, you like, he was caught. He was raised in the house on that though. Right. Right. So they didn't, them niggas ain't even raising the house on Dre.

Yeah. But I'm not saying that, yeah. That he has to be number one on everyone's list, but there's no way you grew up and didn't here Miss Jackson or even, I mean, shit. Andre's been on Thug Records, he's been on future records, he's been. I suspect what the nigs do because at the end of the day, when they came out, the South, they was not fucking with us. It was really on some West Coast, New York, L.A. shit.

Only. Yeah. And them niggas winning wars, pushing how they do it. And they came in on some, like, niggas don't get them credit on, like, the creative on Dre. Yeah. Dre was doing all this crazy Canadian dress and shit before these things. Oh, for sure, for sure.

Wearing wigs with the orange. shoot on with the J-Zone. Like, he bend his shoulder pass. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, like, it's not just about the reps. Yeah. The influence.

Yeah. I look at him like, okay, I could do some shit that I wouldn't do. How much did Outcast, like, really influence? Because I feel like it has, like, seeing y'all live performance, uh, aesthetically, visually with Amigos was doing. That, to me, because I saw Outcast, I know that that was some of that DNA was in, y'all. But what are the conversations like away from the stage and just the public eye about outcasting their influence on y'all? Like, is it like, damn, like, they was the illest.

Like, is it like that or is it like, I like what they did, but let's kind of take that torch and run with it? Yeah, it's like that. Okay. It's like that. It's like, I take that torch and run with it because still, like, the influence they had is super big. But I feel like my group of influence is. bigger than a lot of group influences because you still hear it and see it right now.

Different genres, but different genres get to doing what you're doing and get to copy in how you do shit. It's just like you see it like that. Even right now, new artists can come out right now with the same flow we created and go on on on. How did that triple flow style come about with you guys? It was never a strategy for it. It's just like niggas was rapping like that.

I don't know God. Yeah. Real. That's serious. Nicky was not trying to like, maybe it was just like bouncing off each other's energy. Really was taking. He was the first nigga to do it.

Okay. And we didn't see it. We just were trying to do that shit. Why that shit? Oh, right there. Boy, that, da, da, da. And we started running with it. And then I don't know.

The guy was like, I got y'all this. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Billboard put y'all at number 11 of the greatest rap groups of all time, which is a Billboard list. So who, like, really cares?

We were arguing that y'all could have been higher. Ain't a lot. The list, though, is a superb list, though. Like, the people in front of us, it ain't no slouts in front of us. Not low. You got to pay the respect. You got run dem C. You got Kianris I.

You got, it's real. You got, it's respect versus. Now, but some of the other shit, like, the Roos was like 25 or something. It's kind of crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. The Roots being number 25 is crazy.

That's just a little crazy. That's absolutely. That's crazy. Hypothetically, if there were to be a versus, like not obviously the way they did it during COVID or anything, but just catalog versus catalog, who would be a group that you wouldn't want to go against? Yeah, line it up.

Line it up. A group? Yeah. Catalog? Come on. Because I put a little bit of a list. See, you were hip-hop nigger. I like that type of shit.

So who you think? All right. To me, when we were talking before y'all came, because I think y'all, as far as, as the new generation would be the number one iconic group. I don't even think about it. I'm not even new. I'm not going to get to there.

We was like, all right, race, Remmer, we love them, but Migos is probably going to clean up race remand. Rich Remymer got some big records, but Migos. I love Ray Rican. Yeah. They're amazing, man, but like, come on. I just don't think that's going to happen. It's a whole different thing.

Then we were trying to figure out like certain sounds that may match a bit. We were talking about 3-6. I don't know where you would stand on that. We're going to smoke 3-6 and I love them. and them niggas gave us this also somebody we looked up too. Yeah, yeah.

But that would be dope to just be for that. I want to see who you going to say who we in the group because you ain't going to say none of them.

Three six? The group wise were who, catalog? The one that I thought would be tough would be hot boys

because at any versus the rules was everyone was everyone was allowed to also do their solo shit as well. Oh, y'all are going to definitely lose.

The hot boys? The hot boys? But they get to do their solo They get to do some shit too. Juvie, Wayne. Okay, I get to do my solo shit to Rick Flair and I get through all that? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We're going to, what? You said, I don't know. I like that energy. I don't know. I don't know. I don't breathe.

I'm not saying I'm not saying Amigos might not have a better catalog, but I'm saying smoked is when I'm just like, I don't know if y'all going to smoke. Now, you kind of, all. Time about, time, time out. It's kind of cheating though because you can't use Wayne solo. What could be? He's a hot boy. He's a boy.

Wayne Solo? Yeah. You don't even need it. Judy Solo is crazy. Juvie Solo is crazy. But Wayne Solo is crazy, bro. Yeah. No, we know.

That's what I'm saying. But he's part of the hot boys. They can't beat Wayne Solo. Shit. All right, so. No, sir. All right, UGK. I love UGK.

And I don't want to be putting a good shit when they come out. Yeah, we ain't try to be that. You know what I'm trying to be doing. But, Ben, like, yeah. Come on. But you got the meat.

I respect. I think that. Because we got the thing. Why I'm saying that because niggas got street records, right? Yep. Hit records. Trot records. Mm-hmm.

Then we got global records. Yeah. Then we got hit forever records. Yeah. Haspen wealthy. You shit like that, bro. That's shit like that. That shit is like, that sound like it came out in the 90s.

No, definitely. That means. So like, and I'm always, I just feel like, I don't see it. But not, not, okay. Now, how boys, it's tough. That's tough. That's a tough one. Now, if we're going straight group catalog.

If it's a straight group. Group then, yeah, groups are cleaning up. Groups to have a hard time with Amigos. Oh, clean it up. Yeah. Yeah, they would have a hard time. I can't. I can't.

Tunes is the blueprint for all of us young liggins. I don't give down what niggas say. Yeah. Even style. Now, I had another bit of a viral moment last year when we were talking about Drake in regards to, you know, people calling him a culture vulture and things like that. And in one of my rants, I said, if it wasn't for Drake, we might not. I'd never even know who the Migos was. That was in regards to me

saying when Drake remixed Was it Versace? Yeah. I followed, that's my boy. He's like, shit, that's my man's. He stabbed niggas and put it in and And he'll just do that though. He don't just do that though.

He stopped and still fuck with niggas. Right, right. But people didn't understand what I was saying. They were saying like I was trying to give Drake all the but it was like, no, but one of the biggest artists remixed a record from a group that it was making noise

and was known in Atlanta and kind of bubbling around the country a little bit in different pockets man shit's just down the different type of way I'm the artist That's coming from that's coming from offset

It stamped the Migos So y'all can stop killing me every time that clip goes viral and say I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about Because they be trying to say They're going to say like We're going to be great regardless

But you can't skip the stamp Yeah No it definitely changed the Versacee record For sure Even with Vennam going and, you know, led to fight my stuff. And then I saw Coach Kaye on, he was doing an interview somewhere where he basically reiterated that like, nah, when Drake did that, he just did that on the love.

Like, he fucked with the record. And it was just like, yeah, one ain't no sucker shit involved. Like, give me all the record behind the scene. Like, I own everything because I'm doing it, no. But it reached out. I know we went from doing the E type show to D type show. Shit changed. Shit changed up.

I don't know what. That was what, 2014? 14? 14. 14. What was that like that day? 2013 was Bando. That was Atlanta shit.

Yeah. That was bubbling on. Yeah, I mean, Bando made it up to New York a little bit. A little bit, right. Towards the end of 2013, I think. Then when that, then we dropped with Versacee. Then we did birthday. I'm in jail, by the way.

Did birthday bash. Yeah. And then when buddy got on there, motherfucker went to the moon. Yeah. And after that, it was like. What was that call like when you got like direct vocals? I was in a bad situation. Mm-hmm.

I was, I heard it like, that word heard it. Yeah. When that motherfucker came out, I was like, over the phone. Damn. You locked up and you hear that verse?

Yes, sir. Oh, those walls got smaller. Now, you couldn't wait to get out there. What? Wait to get that motherfucker. That was like,

that was like, yeah, yo and get rich dropped. Like, wait, hold on. You're the biggest art. Yeah, like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. What? We going crazy right now.

Yeah, I heard that's on my phone. Now, we and Rory went to the Scorpion show when y'all went to tour with Drake. And I remember telling Rory when we left, I said, I always knew the Migos had records and they was dope and, you know, all of that. But seeing y'all perform that set list on the Scorpion tour, for me, it gained a different level of respect for y'all because I was like, yo, they was doing back to back to back to back hit records.

I will on, too. The entire set. That wasn't no opening 15 minutes after either. No, no, no, no, no. They could have easily headlined a tour like that. But is that a testament to just y'all always know. that, yo, we dope, we gonna be who we are, and when the time comes, everybody a catch on?

Yeah, that's been the story of our shit since the beginning of time. They always be caught on a leg and catch on a leg. I'd be liking that shit, though, because I feel like the shit that hit fast, go faster. Oh, yeah, it fades quick. They get over. Especially now.

Yeah, they get over it super quick. Super quick. Like, I write a record, I wrote a start from 25 on billboard and climbed to number one, and then go number one, and then next week, I'm 98. I rather do that because that being the record ain't sticking. Yeah.

It's just some hype. Right. That hype should be down now. Yeah. And that's one of the more fashionable guys in the culture. Yeah. Being from Atlanta now, Yaddy had some things to say about New York and its fashion sense a few months ago.

And the internet kind of killed them. You spend a lot of time in New York. You do a lot of shopping in New York. Being from Atlanta, where do you feel like which city has more sense of fashion and style and taste between New York and Atlanta. I'm going to say it like this. You can't never play with New York.

Okay. Ever. It's just, it's the brains. It's the mecca. Yeah. It's the mecca. Now, we got sauce and like drip. Okay.

Lingo. Like, how we do it, how we carry it. Yeah. I feel like if I want a shot, I'm going to come to New York, for sure. Ain't no plan. But I'm not. gonna copy hire New York Nick dressed though.

Okay. You ain't gonna put it on. You ain't gonna put it together the same way. I'm gonna put it the same way. Okay, got you. I'm gonna respect it. Now, I would never say,

what was the question? What did they ask him? And then he said, he said, Atlanta. He got exactly what Yadi said, but he- It was some shit like who's flyer people from New York.

And then they pulled up a million photos of him dressing just like DMX. Yeah. And it was just like, I got, I mean, I fuck with guy.

That's my guy. That's my brother. That's my brother. That's my brother. Hey, yeah. all these photos you just taking influence from New York fashion. Yeah. But, I mean, Atlanta's put their sauce on.

We are out of the sauce. Sometimes we're having sauce, man. But it's a cheat coat now, and I always say this with social media. Because before social media, if you was fly in your city, it was because you really went and looked for pieces. You really put pieces together. Now with social media, I could just follow offset and be like, yo, what hoodie offset got on?

I'm going to go get that. Yo, with shorts offset got on. I'm going to go get that. Yo, how he did his side. with the laces. It's easier to bite. It's easier now. But that doesn't mean it, shit, fashion means also like cologne.

It's going to smell different on everybody. For sure. Like, you could copy somebody's whole fit and you could look nuts in it. Absolutely. Yeah. We see the mannequins that got the whole Balenciaga. You like, you were supposed to go Valencia all the way to have. Yeah, bro.

You want to talk. Yeah. Find the one part you like that. I don't like that. I don't like niggies to go print crazy too. Yeah. Grab some pieces here and there. And then, like you said, sauce, how you throw it together.

How you throw it together? Yeah. Because there ain't no rules in this shit. Right. So it's a free book. Some niggas, I hate manic. I'd be called niggas Manichich challenge. Yeah.

It's funny. I just said that about Vlad yesterday. Niggo straight. Louis, every time, Louis shoe, Louis, socks, shorts, pants, belt. That's nasty. You literally just walked in and said, let me get that. Yeah, that's nasty work, man. Before we let you get out of here, we do have fans and listeners that call in and ask for advice, tell us stories.

We want to do one quick. voicemail with you so we give a fan advice. You've got mail. How's going, gang? Fuck with the pod. I need to come down to Louisiana for a live show year. You know, I'm a beat up. But the reason I was hitting you a love man is because a nigger needs some advice, you know.

Nah, I don't been around the block a few times, you know. I'm not new to this. He sounds stressed. But I still like to hear different perspectives. So, like, Shari, I'm talking to, you know, I love a love of my life type shit. Like, you know, our interests align, our morals align, everything. Like, we good and everything good, everything pure, everything great. Except one problem.

Trust issues. She got trust issues, and they are bad. Now, I know where they stem from. Like, she ain't had the best, like, you know what I'm saying? She's been through a lot. And one of the things I love about is her perseverance, like how she still such a great person after dealing with all the stuff that she's been through in life. But that caused this issues, you know.

And she need therapy, but that's a whole other conversation. We ain't about to have no time. But I'd be chilling, bro. I don't be doing nothing wrong. Like, a nigga, I don't text no other bitches. I don't fucking no other bitches. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm not on there.

Like, I'm off there. I want a real relationship or whatever, you know? So basically, like, how would y'all deal with that without? I don't want to break up with her. Like, she'd be trying to go through a nick of phone. Like, she went through my phone. She don't find anything, but it's still, oh, you must be hiding something. You must delete messages.

Like, it's all kind of bullshit. And I just, I don't want to break up with her, but I'm a nigga kind of tired of it, yo. May I leave? Yeah, it feel like, it sounds like she's already like just way too insecure and it's not going to get no better. If she's going through your phone and she don't find nothing and she still feel like you hiding something. She got to do the work by the side of that, man. Get up out of there, man. Get up out of there. He said, do he got trust issues?

No, she has. She has a choice of you. Her past has those. So she'd be going through. his phone. Yeah. Going through his shit. He'll be doing nothing. He said he's chilling, no hose.

I'm saying, though, he had to do something. Is it like a pass? Well, her previous relationships, she'd been through some shit before. Now that day. Sometimes people do that off guilt to the. Oh, yeah. What's she doing? What she got going on?

Check her phone. That's y'all response out the gate. No, I don't check her phone. I don't check phones, but I'm just saying like she keep pressing. Why is she checking his phone? He sounds serious too like he hurt by that shit. He sounds like he likes it. He's like he really in love with her.

He sounds like he wanted to be with her. But he's like, she's making it hard. Like, damn, I'm not fucking around. Why you keep pressing me about this? They don't want my advice. No, no. They want your advice. Trust me.

He don't want that. As soon as he hears of his advice, he was like, hell yeah, I'm rolling with that. So what does offset tell a gentleman like that? Um, what you tell us? She too like. Maybe you're too, maybe you got you make a feel a little bit secure,

you know what I mean? Maybe. Okay. Maybe you, maybe you, the trauma, look at the trauma she's been through

and try to do the opposite of that. Yeah. Maybe that can help, but I don't know. I hear that, but I'm not changing my whole life

for you to look through my phone like I'm on fucking parole every night because you went through some shit before me. Like I'm just not really I can't pay for his

the other guy. Yeah, like, to me that's odd because I'm not going to go through your phone. Right. To me that's, if she don't work

on that shit herself, I would leave. Because that's only going to get word. You can't care that shit just by showing your phone every fucking night. Right. What the fuck? I didn't do anything. Is that one of your things, though? Never go through a woman's phone? Even if you feel like

there may be some shit going on. Like, you just never, like I'm never doing it. I don't say I've done it. But do you find what you was looking for? That shit hurt. You just, no, actually don't find nothing. That's what hurts. When you don't find nothing, Explain that

When you don't It hurt as a man Like that's some lame ass Like after you Okay I see what you When you When you thought you do some shit That ass you're like

What the fuck Like why would I even I'm playing my fucking You go in the phone My fuck ain't nothing in there? Yeah. light, you don't think she deleted something. So now you're just walking around the house, pacing lights. Don't get in the phone.

Don't get in the phone. Stay away from phones. Don't go through no phones. I don't recommend going through no phones. Either you're going to find a reason to leave or find a reason to stay. Either way, don't do it. My ego can't handle it. That's why I've never went through a phone.

Set, tell us, Kiari the album. Yes. Kiari, the album, man. So this album. When is it driving? August 22nd. August 22nd. Visual album.

I should be doing a video for each. song or some type of visual content for your song. I love that. You know what I'm saying? Getting in my active bag, I like doing that. I feel like that shit make records be bigger because it's like more intuitive. Yeah. I got a collab with Polly,

the clothing brand, with all my box sets and merch. Okay. I got vinyl CDs and boxes and T-shirts like I did with dental tears. Yeah, man. I worked on this album for like five, six months. I had one already, and because of life, I scratched that shit and just got into this, changed my energies, started focusing back on music, like getting them back into, like, getting into studio every day, type of vibe, because it had got to a point where I was just like, I would go here and there.

I would chill, do shows here, go there. Started feeling like a job. Yeah. So I lot back into it. And first time, opportunity being able to, like, express me. That's why I just said named it myself. because it's just like it's something or whatever

the motherfucker's say by me and putting it into the music Yeah Grime over Offset August 22nd Kiari the album Bro, thank you for coming through

production Yeah, come back soon man You always got home here With Rory and all I'm that nigga He's just ginger That's offset

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