New Rory & MAL - Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball | Danny Green

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

On this episode of Rory and Mall Don't Know Ball, the guys are joined by 3-time NBA Champion, Danny Green. Rory and Mal ask Danny about the worst hooper turned rapper, how wild Tony Parker was, and Danny drops a hot take about Kevin Durant's all-time standing #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The volume. All right, Rory. Back for another episode of Rory Moll, don't know ball. We actually do not know ball. Well, maybe a little bit. We're learning as this is going. But this is why we have this platform now to bring on some of our friends that are absolutely. do no ball. And today we are joined by North Babylon

legend, U.S.C. Tall Hill alumni. 15 year, 15 year NBA, you got to say put an emphasis on 15 because that's an incredible accomplishment to last 15 years in NBA. Three-time world champion. We are joined by New York's finest, Danny Green. Can I call you the Green Ranger? Of course, bro. I appreciate it. Definitely. Definitely. I feel like you have to pause after you calling that. I don't know why I can't give you

explanation of why it's a pause. It just feels like a pause. man. So Danny, how you feeling, man? I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I appreciate y'all having me on the pod, man. It's a true honor. I've never been introduced. Like, nobody ever recognizes North Babylon. They would say Long Island or New York. But, yeah, to hear North Babylon, it's been a while.

I said I went to St. Mary's as well. But yeah, man, I'm from New York. And people don't really respect Long Island that much either. They don't. One of my guys, man, great trainer, Jerry Powell out there, North Babylon. That's my guy, J.P., man, one of the best. That's the guy. best, probably him and Brick are probably the two best trainers that I think are in the game

right now. So shout out to my man, Jerry Powell. And shout out to Nicosey Blackburn that no one would know, my friend that went to North Babylon High School. Okay, yeah. That's random. You might have been at St. Mary's by the time he was there. He's a year older than me, but yes, we are both very familiar with North Babylon. We've taken Long Island Railroad many of times to see many of Long Island women. More mall, but he's gotten off in Rekonghamah before. ice was my first trainer probably since i was in like seventh eighth grade oh yeah that's how far back me and jerry go yeah man i said he's legend legend legendary i mean if you ever had a chance to

be in one of uh jerry's workouts man like it's not just the train it's like he like he talks to the mental approach man the way he talks to you got to be able to that's a old school new york thing yeah he needs a he needs a he needs a sick time he needs cameras following him in the gyms at all time But how you feeling, Danny? How you been, man? I've been great, bro. It's an adjustment for most people. Retirement, for me, wasn't that big of an adjustment.

Because I kind of started to, I had help around me. You guys met Amjad, Harrison transitioned me into the media side of it. And, you know, watching the game, and I don't want to sound like because I'm not an old head. But, you know, it's different. And when I was in locker rooms working out, I once I didn't feel I belong. But I definitely felt older in the space. And it was changing. But, yeah, I'm adjusting to it.

Fine, man. Everything's going well. Doing some stuff with ESPN, randomly tapping in with Fandul and Turner. The goal is to be able to network full time, but I also do some consulting and scouting for teams. You know, tapping into different avenues and different lanes and seeing what I like most. But most importantly, I get a chance to spend more time with my little one at the house as he's growing up. He's only 19 months. So I'm glad that I waited to have kids.

until the end of my career so I can have more time with them. That's one thing I always talked about. Having friends that play professional sports, I noticed that some of them do struggle with retirement, trying to figure out who they are, because athletes, for the most part, that took over your entire lives from kids. All you know is basketball training,

working out, playing, traveling. How tough has it been? What was the biggest thing you learned during retirement that nobody told you to look out for? Yeah, I think the toughest thing. for most guys, which said I had some help with it, is adjusting to not have it, like I said, for 20 years, 25 years, guys have been playing and traveling and to be kind of stagnant or figure out how to not be stagnant and adjusting to not having a routine because normally

you wake up, you know exactly what you're doing. And obviously there's other situations where guys, you know, checks aren't coming in the same, so they have to adjust. And some people don't have to, but either way, you don't want it to be stagnant and spending money without making money, you know, because you have to live another 40, 50 years, God willing, maybe even more. So you kind of see that bigger picture like them. I don't know if I can stretch this this long or I don't know if I should be doing this for this long. I don't know if it's going to run out financially.

But some guys are putting pretty good positions where they don't have to worry about financials, but they still want to find a purpose. So finding a purpose, finding a routine. I said for me, it was like, you know, I want to know my schedule for them. I don't want to have to figure out week to week day to day of where. what I'm doing. So when I say I want to be with a network, it's like, all right, I want a schedule for the month.

Let me know what I'm doing when I'm working when I have time with the little one. So I think the hardest part is that, not having a routine. And then also not having a space where you can be around, you know, your boys, your teammates, you know, locker room, the plane, all the travel experiences with a group that camaraderie is what guys miss the most. So that's the biggest adjustment. It's not having a group to be a part of or be associated with and then not having a routine that you normally have had in the last 25 years.

Does every athlete think they can be a media personality now? No. A lot of them do. Listen, we talked about the pod before we started pot and not everybody deserves a platform. That's a fact. That's a fact. Some guys out there are platforms. You're like, what the hell?

Anybody gets get a platform now. So nobody who deserves a platform. Not everybody can do media is challenging on that side of it. It's not easy. And some guys know that. Some guys know that their personality is not built for talking on TV and they're not outgoing or showing energy. You know, you see Stephen A.

He's yelling at the TV all the time, but he's good at what he does because he portrays that and it grabs the viewers' attention within the first seven seconds. You know, these little things that, you know, TV people know, you know, people behind the scenes know, and guys that do media know. And a lot of ballplayers know that they're not good in that space. But a lot of them try, which is that I applaud them. It's great, man, to see guys venture out and try to have their own plastic. platforms and also try to do different things after playing.

But yes, not everybody can do it and not everybody thinks they can do it, but probably more so guys think they can do it. Just like basketball players trying to be rappers or rappers trying to be hoopers, you know I'm saying? So it goes hand in hand. I was impressed by Jamal Crawford's transition into analysts. I spent a lot of time around Jamal when he was in New York, a good friend of mine, Trevor Rieser.

They were teammates. So we spent some time together. Seeing him transition into endless work has been impressive. He's always been cool laid back, but I didn't realize how well-spoken, Jamar was until he was on TV. He obviously knows the game, one of my favorite players to watch. How is it watching a lot of these guys that you probably were teammates of and was like Richard Jefferson?

I was surprised how well he does an analyst work. He was like in Jersey, spent some time around him. He was a complete goofball. And now to see him on TV doing the analyst work he's doing, he's doing an amazing job. How is it being teammates with some guys that you know on a personal level and then seeing them transition into these great analysts? RJ is still a goofball, man. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Even on set behind camera, he makes it fun, though. Yeah. But it's been impressive to see certain guys like, damn, I didn't know he could do that. Like, I didn't know he had that. Even, like, guys you may not see on a national level. Ryan Hollins is a guy that works for Houston Rockets. And, you know, he didn't have an extensive career, but he had a good career.

But you see him, you know, even Tristan when he had a break, came out. And it's like, yo, I didn't know he could be so animated on TV. But RJ's been great. You know, Jalen Rose is a great. Jamal Crawford has been great. Like, you guys get better speakers as they get older because they can't do as much physical. So they have to be better communicators. Right. On the court, you know, I've seen Jamal, you know, he's a great offensive score. Most communicators are defensive guys like Draymont. Right. Because they have to talk on defense. You know, most guys that score the ball, they just go out and get buckets. Yeah, they don't talk at all. They might talk shit.

That's it, but they don't have to communicate as much except for give me a screen or get out the way. Right. You know, so to see Lou Will, Jamal Crawford, like, those guys cross over and be in the space and be very good at it is impressive, man. And you tip your hat off to guys because it's not easy. You learn a lot about behind the scenes of how difficult it is, how challenging it is. And, you know, so to see certain guys be able to adapt and adjust to the space, you're like, man, that's pretty dope. I didn't think that, you know, most of the guys, a lot of people. The normal fans look at basketball players as guys that just only know how to play sports.

They don't see us as anything else. So to have a personality, they'll be able to portray it. And some guys are really good basketball players, which is not good at talking the game either. Right. And now you guys, you guys see them all the time. Like some of them just, you know, hilarious. You know, Chuck and Shackard are hilarious on TV. They make great TV.

They can talk the game. And there's some guys that said that don't know how to articulate the game and break it down. Because you've got to be able to break it down to a viewer that does not understand it. People that don't know ball. Yeah. So not everybody's good at doing. net, man. And I said to see some of my peers and some of my teammates, OGs and even some guys behind me, they'll be able transition into that. It shows like they said, they had some other talents

and qualities that I never knew they had before they could play about. They obviously had other aspirations or backup plans or things that they had in place if they didn't make it in basketball. I mean, I love the fact that, you know, ESPN and these other news outlets are leaning more towards, you know, grabbing players as they're into retirement and having them. doing and us work because it does make sense to have guys that have played at this level break down the game and be able to talk to the casual fans like rory and myself about the game and show us the nuances of it but it is fun to see guys like draymond and you know guys have their own platforms where they get to say what they want to say and then break down the

game that you know the way they like to do it so good luck to you on that i know you've been doing your thing and you're pretty good at it but you're a tar hill so y'all are pretty educated down there you see man got to get better you know i'm working to get better. We had some good examples that I got a chance to watch. Rest in Peace. Stuart Scott was a great one. Oh, yeah.

Absolutely. It was amazing. To the legend. We got a chance to watch, you know, Rick Fox. You know, so we had a couple guys that I got a chance to watch. Kenny Smith has done an amazing job. Yeah. You know, Vince is on there now doing some stuff.

Shout out to Ben. Heywood. We had a couple guys in place now. And before me that I got a chance to watch and look up to because I wasn't, I wasn't always the most talented guy. I was like, I had to plan for if this shit didn't work out. Yeah. So I went to school for four years and it was like,

all right, if I don't play ball, I got to be able to do something. Right. Do I want to stay around the game? Do I want to coach? And after playing, it's like, you know, coaching is stressful. You see coaches getting fired left and right. Yeah. That's a very unstable career.

So I was like, I don't know if I want to deal with that stresses, the stresses of coaching when I'm done playing. So for me, it was like, you know, I'm going to, you know, commentating, you know, journalism or that type of space. So I did communications as my major. And, you know, I followed watching those guys most of the time. You mentioned there were some ball players that thought they could rap. You had a pretty long career with a couple organizations.

So who was the worst rapper that you came across in the NBA? Oh, I can't say the worst rap because I've actually. You could say Bagley. He's from Duke. He's from Duke. I never heard him rap. I could probably put him that conversation. I could probably put him that conversation.

But I've been, I've come across some guys that were pretty good that made good music. Like, and I started out with Stephen Jackson. So when I was there, even, and Tony,

I don't know, so if I can understand French, might be able to put him in that category, but Tony rap, Tony Parker. He was a rapper.

He had an album, did a French album. Yeah, I never got a chance but I seen him perform on stage. Yeah. By the time I got there,

he stopped rapping. But Stephen Jackson was a good one. I know, I never was teammates with Dane, but I had chance to watch him. And I got to say,

André Drummond, I got the chance to listen to these guys music. Shaq was a rapper rapper ball play. It's Damashak. Yeah. Damashak are very talented. But when I was in Memphis, man,

we had a couple of guys doing the mumble rap there. Oh my gosh. It was interesting, man. I want to say no names, but I want to say they're terrible. But, you know, they were in the studio. And they did some good stuff. And so, like, some of the music, it may not have been terrible. But it sounded good.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. You know, so they had some, and some of them were young guys. So, Jr., Kenny Lofton, Jr., he's. younger. He plays in China now, but he was young coming, and he was like trying to get the music. So he's got some time to get better. Yeah. But he was in that same. I mean, he's in China. All he got to do is staying on the corner and he'll sell 10 million records rapping out there. He gets buckets though. I'll tell you what. Kenny Lofton. I'm surprised he's not in the league. I'm surprised he didn't land. But yeah, he was a young guy that was like,

you know, I'm like, okay, you got the blue face flow. You know what I'm saying? So no, so no flow. So no flow. Completely all beat. It was a one-all beat flow, but Blueface made it famous. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But Blueface was good at it. Shout out to him because we just saw him. I was in the prisons like a couple weeks ago, but a month ago, he was in there. I do the thing between the line.

So we go hoop with the prisoners. Yes, I saw some of the trailer stuff. Yeah. And he was in there. So, but shout out to him. Did you speak to Blueface? Yeah, we sell it up. You know, you know, everyone in there, they got a story, man.

And it's not a great space for them. It's like a miserable day. And so we come in, we try to give them a day of freedom. Yeah. Hoop with them, play some music. So they be like, oh, it's all right. And here today, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I appreciate you all coming through. They, you know, they show love and we show love back. So it was a good day, you know, to kick it with them. How is that ball at one point? I mean, he's tall. Blueface is pretty tall. Yeah, they said he was a hoop, but they said he played football and he was athlete. But that day, he was chilling.

He wasn't, he was out the way. He was just watching. I don't think he wouldn't be a part of it. You know, he trying to do his time and get out of it. He's a short stay guy. So he's only got like a year or so. Some of the guys in there, 50 plus 100 plus years. But they're doing better.

We're trying to rehabilitate guys. You know what I'm saying? And they had dog, like straight dogs that are allowing them to like adopt, you know, that type of thing. But yeah, it's a, I learn some new shit every day every time I'm in there. How is that, yeah, I'm about to say, how was that experience going into the prison systems? You know, me personally, I know a lot of guys that were great basketball players that, you know, just took a left turn and ended up doing prison time. So I'm sure spending time in these prisons, you come across guys that could really hoop. Like, how is it seeing guys when you like, yo, though, you could have played in the league?

What the fuck you're doing there? You know what I'm saying? There's a bunch of people. Even in a woman's prison, you look at them like a, you look like a normal civilian. Like, why are you here? Right. It's a random. It's not random, but it's a wild story of, you know, one bad decision of one drunk night.

Right. Car accident, you know what I'm saying? And they got 30, 40 years. So these guys were hooping. One dude was, I used to play with Chauncy. I was a point guard back in the day with so-and-so. I played a lot of them from the L.A. area. Some are from different areas.

Right. But they hooped. And they hooped. And you could tell they hooped back in a day. They're like, yo, you must have played somewhere. Right. And they're like, I'm about to get out soon. But they're in great shape, by the way.

So you go in there. Yeah. Dicking around, you go to your ass bucks. Because they're not playing around. They play all day. They have home court advantage. They can shoot on the double rims, outdoors. That's always tough.

But it's an unbelievable experience, man, just hearing their story. But, you know, being surprised by guys that are athletic in there and that said they were playing with some top guys. And could have been one of those top guys that just made a bad decision when they were 15, 16 years old. Didn't know him the Warriors have a documentary or something they gave? I think they went in a shot. He got a tryout. Yeah, I think they went in for a brief moment. They did some visits because a lot of the prisons are, I wouldn't say in the Bay Area,

but I think Folsom is in Sacramento area, which is not far. But we said I do, we do all the California area. Shout out to Between the Lines. Tori Stableton, Darren Duncan, they put it together to my homie. So I just volunteer. And Lanny, they do a homie that runs actively black kind of sponsored them and gave him the gear. but it said it's a dope all-around experience. People volunteer their time.

DJ comes in, play some music. People come in and hoop. People come in and do their podcast. They share their stories. So it's an experience all around, man. What drew you to want to volunteer? I said, I can't even, said I can't even take credit for the home. I seen the homies doing it for some time.

And I always wanted to check it out. You know, because we all have somebody that's been inside, right? Like, we all have somebody that were related to, that we know that made a decision and you had to visit them. So we're connected in some way, shape, or form. And I was always hooping, but I was able to go in. I had two of my knee. So I had time.

I was rehabbing and I wasn't doing much. I wasn't practicing shit like that. So they're like, you should come track out of the prison. So the first time I went in was when I was, I didn't play. So I had a knee injury and I was just there kicking it with them. And then from there, I was like, yeah, this is dope, man. And it meant a lot to them, but it also helped put things in, it always kept me, put things in perspective for me. You know, like it was a thing that I feel like every human being.

with the freedoms we have needs that humbling, you know, often. Every couple months, you need to come back down earth, just appreciate what you have. So it's one of those things that it's not only beneficial to them, it's beneficial to me. So I'm able to show them love, you know, give them hope and help make their time go by faster or easier, but also for them to teach me a lot of things and also, you know, share their stories. But keep me in a humble space, man, and appreciate the freedoms that I have. Yeah, that would be dope to actually, like, see a lot of, like, these NBA stars going to prison and like just for a day

and just like hoop against some of the best job. Yeah, more guys should do it, man. More guys should do it. Yeah, I think that would go. It gets physical in there, though. It gets physical in. I mean, a lot of these guys claim they could have played in the more physical era, right? They claim I could have played in that era.

Like, well, let's see. Go in the Pelican Bay. I see what you can do. Right. See what you can do up in there. Let's see if you can handle it. Yeah. He had a guy that has 35 years left on his, on his charge.

All right. No, they play clean. They play. It's good clean fun, but they get physical, man. And I started, when I retired, I was like, you know, I got to get back in shape because I'm out there. I was wheezing and shit. Like, damn, nah, these, we almost lost a couple times. We lost one, actually lost one game.

And I was like, damn, it's not good. Yeah, we can't let that happen. Yeah. They start talking trash. Like, are we coming back? We're going to come back for, you know, to get our lick back. As one of the better shooters in your class when you came in, what do you think about the game now? Like, because when you came in, it was, it was shooting was, you know,

Three-point shooting was a part of it. Steph obviously changed the entire dynamic of basketball. But do you ever feel like, damn, if I came in, like, in the last three years, I would be one of the top players. Because you were an absolute shooter coming out of UNC, and that was a big part of your game. But do you ever look at the evolution of basketball now and be like, if I came in maybe six years later, it would be a real problem. Yeah. Excuse me. I think everybody that's retired thinks that they were born too early.

You know, you look at even guys from Shaq's era, they're like, yeah, I wish I was born, you know, 20 years. Because mind you, the money is way. The money. That's what it is for most of them is the money, yeah. You know, but Shaq, his error was better built for his type of game. There's a bunch of guys that were tweeners that were probably not built for the time that they came out. It was like, yo, in today's NBA, I could play because it's all perimeter oriented, all guard play.

And there's guys that were like a, you weren't sure if they were, true two men or three men or three or four men like they were forward or small forward and that made a difference between them making a team and not you know not being on a roster and had to play overseas so there's a bunch of guys that are looking like damn i was born in the wrong era for me it's just like i i appreciated my time because i got a chance to see both parts of it i got to see like old school when i first got early like in early and then it trends i see a transition and obviously people give you know a lot of credit to step and go and state but houston was a big part of the three-point transition with James Harden.

Yeah. And Dan Tony. So for me, it was more so like, damn, I wish I got an opportunity to play for certain coaches or play with certain people. And that's not just in today's era, but even the era before me, during my time, like, I see Dan Tony's system and they get up shots. You know, Steve Kerr's system, you know, I would imagine what kind of player I would have been if I was featured.

You know, Pop respected the three and appreciated it, but it wasn't a big part of his offense. It wasn't like, oh, we're going to shoot a bunch of threes. Now everybody's offense is that way. So it's like, damn, if I was born 10 years later and playing for Boston, what would that look like? You know what I'm saying? Like, what my contract looked like?

Would I get more, what I win a lot more rings? What I'm just said, I've won plenty. I've been very blessed. But they're getting up with good amount of attempts, man. And guys are getting paid, you know, the guys that were my space at the time, said it eventually got up to like 70 million, which was big. Because before that max was certain guys like Tony Park were getting 40 million. Like that was a big contract back the day.

30 million was a big contract. then like the average between then bumped up to like the average would be like 70 75 now you're seeing guys getting 100 120 plus for like those guys in that space now 200 um so yeah the money is going up and I think a lot of retired guys are like damn I wish I was born like 10 years later you know what just to get that bag Tony Parker wouldn't have that French rap album that I didn't know about Tony Parker had to try to make ends meet we just skipped over that maybe I missed that completely

did you guys know that Tony Parker at a yeah he rapped on stage bro at the final when he found one final TV It was a while ago. Yeah, it was a while ago. But it was one of those things that I think somebody talked to them. Like, you can make a good amount of money. Like, I don't think they had it over there.

And you can make a good amount of, you know, you have a good big following. Yeah. You can make a good. So, you know, I think Tony's Pops is like an old school black dude from Chicago. So, you know what I'm saying? Like, even though he's French, like his family, like his family is half American,

half regular black dudes. Yeah. I'm going to revisit it for sure. I got to go back and do the knowledge. Monchetti. While, while we're staying on music, Coming up in Long Island in the 90s, early 2000s growing up, what type of music were you listening to?

Of course the hip hop, bro. I mean, I grew up on that, you know. My pops was big in the moving, you know, I wouldn't say we lived in North Babylon, but we were in every borough. And Queens was a big part of, you know, El Koo-J was from our area or lived in that area. So we listened to a lot of him, you know, growing up. But everybody from a young age from Metham, Red Man, all that, Wu-Tang, big, of course, not so much pot, more so.

big. Nas. Jay, Jay was huge. Jay Z was big. And then, of course, when I was younger, I think everybody,

Eminem was like, Dr. Dre. And then, of course, G. And it came around 50 cent, dipset as we got in high school. So that was more of our movement. Then I went to school in the South,

which changed a lot for me. So being in Carolina, I was like, man, I didn't really mess with the music like that down there. But then I eventually, it came around, you know,

T.I. And then Lil Wayne blew up. You know, I was in college. So it was like, I had no choice. You know, they were force feeding me jeezy.

Yeah. The Southern music. And I'm like, what the fuck is this bullshit? Yeah, I listen to them. I'm listening to. I'm listening to G-Unit,

you know, Jim Jones, dipset, like you know what I'm saying? Right. So, but eventually it said, I started to open up to be like,

okay. And as you get older, you start, you know, you pat, just like when you taste food foods, your palate expands.

You start like, okay, tried different foods, try with music. And you're like, oh, now it's like, I'm a more R&B guy

but it's the crossover R&B rap like the R&B guys that rap too but I like hip hop R&B then I'll listen to some pop I don't mind some songs I'm saying EDS but you know you're open to more musical things now

like okay I can I can vibe to this for a little bit just not the whole night I'm not about to be doing house and EDM the whole night I can understand or appreciate a good country song it's like okay I'm saying you had a you had a stint while you were playing you were known as the guy When you weren't in the game, you was supporting your teammates.

You did a lot of dancing on the sidelines. There's been a lot of, a lot of tape of you grooving on the sidelines when you wasn't in the game. Did you take that on us? Like, listen, man, if I'm not on the floor, I still have to kind of give my teammates energy and get them going and have fun. Was that something, was that a conscious thing or was something that just happened? I think it was something that just happened, you know, and being from New York, you know how, and I'm not the type of guy that needs to be, like, clear out the room. Like, I got the dance floor type of space.

need the attention. You know what I'm saying? But New Yorkers, we dance, we listen to music. We have fun. You know what I'm saying? We get light. So on the sidelines, I feel like it just naturally happened because it made it seem like it was an individual thing, but it wasn't.

Yeah. It just became that. It started out as a team thing. So Coach Williams, you know, he's kind of superstitious. So he made sure we played the music before every game. And on the sideline, my freshman year not as much, but my sophomore junior, became more thing. But sophomore, we had everybody ended up sideline dancing.

So we would have fun. By the time I became my junior, all the people that was in a salon with me, either had graduated left or we're starting or on the floor. So I was like, I didn't start to my senior. So I was on the left. So everybody's looking at me like, yo, you got nobody else in the sideline can dance. Like, yeah, you got to dance. So it became like an individual thing.

Now I'm just the only one high in the crowd up. Then we had some other guys get into it. We had like another guy, you know, Greg Little. He was a football player, but he played with us. So we had him get into it too. So we had a few. But it became an individual thing because everybody else had left. But it wasn't really an individual thing.

But yeah, that was just, you know, the New York and me just on the sideline, we would all dance, you know, from my freshman sophomore year and everybody had different dances and, you know, my, you know, version of it and it was a random song trying to get light to. But, you know, just became an individual thing as I got older and everybody kind of left and was starting on the floor and a superstitious thing, you know, Coach Williams made sure to play the music and made sure because we won a lot of games with that music and the fans love it. Then it became a thing. And the next, you know, I became the, you know, Carolina puppet.

Everybody, every time they see me, you know, Danny Dance, we do a dance for us. You know, that's how it became a thing. And it was like, you know, but I enjoyed it, man. It was fun. It was cool. And ultimately, I guess it brought some type of energy to the floor in the group, but it brought, you know, some fun and light to our team and to the bench and to myself as well. What was the music that was always played with the superstition?

It was jump around. It was jump around every time. Yeah, every game before every game is a jump around song. And did you ever catch him rapping along to it? Nah, no, no, no. Shot a picture. Coach Williams do that. I told the story a couple of times.

It was one time they didn't play the music. I think it was an overtime. We lost. I'm pretty sure he was pissed about it. He made sure they played that day music every time. Somebody got fired. Somebody definitely not fired. It's one of those things.

He's an old school coach. You know, he don't like to look at me, the BS or, you know, it's okay until tip-off goes up. We get serious. But if it's something that's working and we went in, he ain't going to say nothing. So it was working and winning and it became a ritual. But if we would have been to dance on the sideline and we were losing, he would have been like, cut that shit out. Yeah, yeah.

Cuss this out. Yeah. But it was a thing. And then once it became a thing, and when we didn't have the music one game and we lost, he was like, all right, you know, we got to make sure to play that damn music. And we get our guys in the salon doing their routine and the crowd into it. So, and the fan section, the crowd loved it. So it was a cool, it was a cool thing.

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Once you get to the league, obviously, more doors open up and you enter into rooms with other famous people that you probably hadn't been in before. What was the first artist that you met that was kind of like a fanned out moment for you once you guys to leave?

I feel like, you know, being from New York, every moment is a fanned out moment but you never expressed that as a New Yorker. Yeah. You just have too much pride. You got to keep it cool.

Got to keep it cool. What up? What up? Yeah. And you just keep it moving. But I think my first interactions when I was like just coming out, Cole, he actually found out to me

and I was like, oh shit, it's cold. He's like, do you agree with up? Like he's from Carolina. Yeah. He was outside of, club, said what's up, oh shit, Cole, what's up?

You know what I'm saying? Like, he was young. I think he was just fresh out of college. It was long time ago. And then, of course, seeing Wayne, seeing T.I., seeing a bunch of guys randomly. And then Drake, the weekend. I was a big weekend fan, you know, when he came out. So, and every time I see him, I mean, now it's love.

It's more normal. I'm older. But when I was a young kid, like my first three or four years, it's just like even when you're in the court, I think your first two years is more of a star-struck culture shock for you. like, damn, I can't believe him. I'm going to say, like, it takes a year to get used to that. I can't believe them on a floor or sharing a locker room with Shaq or LeBron.

You're saying, like, it's not a everyday thing. I think rookies are more used to it now because they have more access to guys. Like back then, I didn't have, social media wasn't that big of a thing when I first came in. So you don't see these guys as much. You don't see what they're routine. Now you have all access to everything they do behind the scenes in the locker room. I didn't know what the hell. So seeing LeBron in person, seeing Shaq in person, like damn, you never get to see these guys.

playing against KD, playing against certain people. You're like, damn, Melo, you're like, oh shit, that's Carmelo. Now you see them. It's like a fraternity. They show love, say what's up, which is dope.

But it takes a year or two to get used to that, not just rappers, but every space, even actors and actresses, which a lot of them, you don't even recognize at first because there's smaller people. You're like, damn, what's that? Yeah.

I can't believe so much. Tiny. Yeah, I remember. Like, Batman, is that short? No. So many games. I realize it. You're like, damn, so small.

Like, there's a bunch of girls that said a bunch of actresses you look at and you probably had crushes on in your high school. Yeah. And you meet them. You're like, damn, it's so small, man. I don't know if you just, I want to say you're disappointed, but you're like, damn, I thought she was like this big. Mind you, they do carry an aura, but they're just small people.

So you're just like, man, I can't believe Hollywood is this small. Do celebrities at the games ever change, I guess, the energy in the arena? Because I don't say it's different between playing for the Lakers than playing with San Antonio about who's going to be there. Toronto, obviously Drake took over for three years straight. He was at every game. Does that change the energy?

100%. And I think when you're the opposing team, that's the fun part. When I was starting on San Antonio, I think my favorite arenas was going to New York, going to L.A., even though I'm from New York, but seeing who's going to be court-side, you know what I'm saying?

Like, oh, shit, that's Denzel Washington. Oh, that's Detective Olivia, you know, Benson. I don't know her real name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watch the one of her. Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh shit, it's so-and-so.

You know, just random people, and you'll see how small they are. But you're like, damn, they're, of course, I watch. It's Jack Nicholson. Like, oh, shit. You know, that's Jack, you know, so. How many points you had when Salma Hyac was there? I don't remember. But I just said, just watching and having them there, it's like, you know, this is the bright

lights. I mean, this is time to hoop. So you have fun. You have more fun in those. You don't get to see them in San Antonio or those other small arenas. But also, it's a big difference when you become a part of those groups. You know, it's a different aspect when you're playing against Lakers and when you're playing for the Lakers. You know what I'm saying?

It's a different type of pressure. You know what I'm saying? Like those stars now expect you to play well. They expect you to every night and expect it to win. The lights are a lot brighter. So yeah, it's a different space. And when you come in, the underdogs, I'm coming in and beat the shit out of Lakers, you know what I'm saying? It's a different type of approach and mental aspect of it.

And it's probably a lot more fun being an opposing team coming in kicking ass than being a part of the home team where you're like, Like, if you do something wrong, everybody had a bill. Like, damn, why do we sign this guy for this much money? You know what I'm saying? What's one of the biggest misconceptions about Coach Popovich? Like, I look at Coach Popp and he does seem like this stern, serious guy. But then you also get clips of him with his players and you see like the coolest side of Coach Pop. What is the biggest misconception going in as a rookie where you probably were like, oh shit,

I'm great to play for Coach Pop. Like going into it. What did you think? And then after your first interaction, what was it? What was that feeling like? That's a great question, man. I mean, I don't think the young kids understand, like, it's a different generation. And they have no respect for the older generation now.

But when you walk in a building and you see a Greg Popovich or Coach Williams or Pat Riley, they only carry the aura of like a historical coach. Like, oh, shit. Like, damn. It's like the principal. You know what I'm saying? You got to show you up. You have to be on your P's and Q's, make sure you're not fucking around or fucking up.

So when it came to seeing them, but not only did you think that they were so, but Pop looks like somebody that would, he's like a spy, you know what I'm saying? Like somebody that, you know, it was a serial killer on the love. You know, yeah, yeah. You know, Pat Riley looks like a mob, like he's like,

you know, time like get you knocked off, you know, you'm saying? So it's like, not only you scared of as a basketball coach, but you scared of him as a man. Coach Kay looks like the president, you crank. Yeah. Might leave a horse and your bed sheets wake up. You're saying, like, might kill your family.

So seeing them in that space is like it takes you back And the biggest misconception of them And I said I don't know Pat And Coach Williams I know Coach Williams well but Coach Williams and Pop They just people especially the media would pop They just take him so seriously They think he's a mean guy

When really he's like the total opposite Like he's a big soft he's a grandpa You know what I'm saying like Until he got on the court Now get me wrong And I court he's very extreme and intense But off the court You know he's teaching about life

You know lessons around the world third world countries, enlighten you, what's going on, like trying to educate you, but he cares, he cares about your family. And he's a,

he's a comedian, man. It's hard not to, like, he's a part-time. Everything he did to me was funny as hell. I would laugh all the time. Also, because, like, he's in his 70s and he's still,

you know, he'll get out in the court and start messing with you. Start playing defense on you, try focus with you, bully you a little bit. You're like, pop, man,

get the hell out of here. Yeah, he's funny. He's funny as hell, man. And he, I think he likes to mess with the media, and he wants him to think that he's serious. So he plays that role.

Yeah. Pretty much like he's the coaching version of Jack Nicholson. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, Jack Nixon and his movies likes some fuck with people. He's kind of like that and makes those, you know, dry jokes or those jokes that make you a little uneasy and uncomfortable. But he's only playing around.

But he's great, man. He's great. We had Victor Cruz on last week, and we were discussing with him, the bottle heard round the world that ended New York City club culture. Tony Parker was also involved in that. This episode's being dedicated to Tony Parker.

Vic was, I think, in green. Danny, I felt like, would you do that night? No, I wasn't. I heard about it, though. I wasn't there that night. Okay. So, the way Vlad has been trying to solve the Tupac case, we have dedicated this podcast to trying to discover what happened and whipped that night. And this is when the bottle broke, right? It caught somebody in the eye.

Did it catch Tony and I? I believe so, yes. I think he ended up suing. It was between Drake and Chris Brown's entourages of some type of altercation. And Tony happened to be there. And again, I'm learning so much about Tony Parker today. I thought he was, I don't mean this disrespectfully. I just thought he was more of a square.

Like I thought him and Tim Duncan wore jeans shorts and at backyard barbecue. Don't get me wrong. The organization makes you like feel that way or make you put you in that space. They don't want you to encourage you to do anything but bass like it's your job but tony was outside boy you know what i'm saying like he he was one of the very few guys that liked the fashion you said he was married to eve and longoria like he was in the hollywood space yeah and he likes to do you know he liked to party he's french boy you like he liked he liked to get out and he wrapped so he was a figure he wasn't just a basketball

player he was a figure so do you think tony was a victim that night or maybe an aggressor uh i think for sure a victim i mean he's not he's not aggressive type guy yeah but he likes to be in the like said when especially younger tony he liked to be in the space So I'm sure he was on the space. Probably had no idea what's going on. Probably, hey, hey, yo, Chris, what's up? Your drink over here. Yeah, he might have.

He's trying to show love. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're trying to show love. And they're like, yo, we don't fuck with each other, Tony. Yeah. He might accidentally, you know, got some things started. But I doubt he was an aggressive. He likes to stay in his own space.

But he's social guy. He had his own club in San Antonio at the time back in this call Nueva. You know, his number was nine. So he had a club. And it was one of very sweet spots that everybody would go to after and hang out and kick it. But, yeah, Tony is definitely. a victim. He wasn't, he was never like a starter. Did he ever take you out outside of his club in San Antonio? Like when you guys were on the road, Tony was on those guys. We were going to go on a road

and want to do something. We did team dinners a lot. But if there was something going on in San Antonio or out somewhere else, he'd like, I got this going on, I got a party here. And, you know, he had the infamous parties at his house that, I don't know if you guys seen it lately. I think Kassanat might be streaming there soon. And, you know, help promote. He's back and forth. It's France. enough but I think he's trying to sell the house. But his house is unbelievable. It's like a water park. He got a water park in the crib and he added more to it.

So even then he'd have parties and the biggest, the best part of it was be able to do the water park stuff at his crib. That's crazy. So he would be a house party outside and he said he added more to it. But yeah. So his house was unbelievable and he would have parties, host parties at his crib and he would host them in different places. And he'd like, yo, I'm doing this, come through. And his brothers, he had younger brothers.

They were cool people too. and they would invite people out and, you know, they would host. They were really good at hosting people in San Antonio. Now, I don't know how long ago you said this, but you have Kevin Durant over Steph and Yokes. This was like yesterday. It was like two days ago.

Yeah, like, do you, do you really have KD? So, so I know this is, this is controversial. Two part question. Do you have KD over Stefan Yokic and what is Danny Green's top five all time? Yes. So, so this is, I know it's a controversial. And it's an unpopular opinion, but it's just my opinion when it comes to the eye test, right? Or just the players that I've laced up.

So, like, people have their top 10 of all time. You know, it's like, it's Bron, Mike, Mike Braun, Cope, you know, Timmy, Shaq, Walt, Bill Russell, Magic, Kareem, Bird. You know what I'm saying? Like, those guys, normal, people mix them around. And then sometimes they'll sneak in Steph in the top 10, you know what I'm saying? So for me and the top 10, the top players that I've seen lace up in my 15-year career, the guys that I've laced up, the hardest people to guard. And their resume may not be as good as Steph and Yokic. It might be better.

So Katie's resume might be not MVP-wise, but he's got two finals MVPs. He's got MVP. But behind Michael Jeffrey Jordan, the best players that ever I've seen lace them up and score that basketball on offensive on the floor. Kevin Durant right behind him and then James Harden. Like my 15-year career, those are two hardest guys that I've ever had to guard. And there's a reason why. They're really good. Now I'm not saying I put James Harden above Steph.

Katie has two rings. He has some finals MVP's. So Steph's resume is better for sure. But as a player, to me, I'm putting him above those guys. We'll never see, to me, I don't think we'll ever see another Kevin Durant. You can put Wembe in a conversation shit. They're not Kevin Durant. They're very good.

They're big men. they can shoot the three, but 50, 40, 90, 25 plus points for like 16 years. Like guys been doing it for 12 plus years, like over a decade and still doing it in year 16. To me, I would put him in a top 10 over the, for the new era guys, I'll put him in a top 10 before Steph and Yokish. That's just my opinion because, so we'll never see another one of him. And not that we'll ever see another Yokic and Steph, like, but I think we'll come across them like another one of those before we'll see another coming Durant. Yokic is, I think he's a special player. I think his pace is probably his biggest asset.

No matter what you're doing on your end of the floor, you're not going to take Yokic out of his pace. I think his IQ, again, is probably one of his biggest assets. Physically, he's not going to, you know, he's not the strongest, fastest, quickest. But I think his IQ, his pace, and his natural feel for the games probably would separate some. But, you know, I got to go back to, you know,

I remember what Orlando Shaq looked like. You know what I mean? I don't know if Yolkidge wanted to see Orlando Shaq or even L.A. Shack. We had these conversations yesterday, too, because, you know, Shaq had some comments to talk about how he would have bullied Chet and Wembe and made them quit.

Yeah. It depends on the area you're playing it. And that might be true on the offensive end. I see and said, Joel, Wembe didn't quit against Joel. He had 60 against Wemby, and he tried to bully him all game. but he's growing into a better defensive player and they probably would have double Shaq

but Shaq would have problems guarding him too on the other end playing on the outside. Yeah. I'm saying? Like he never left the paint in the 90s, you know what I'm saying? Like you didn't have to. They didn't have bigs that were shooting threes.

Yeah. Dirk was the first in the coming up and then Chris Bosch, but he didn't play much against it, but those guys, Yao had some good touch, but he never shot three. So I think Shaq would have had trouble guarding those guys as well. And, yeah, Yokic, he's the big man version of Luca. Their pace is unbelievable.

was that and I think they're one of a kind guys too but I think we'll see another one of them before we see another camp a seven foot guy that can handle a ball like a guard shoot three shoot midrange and last that long because most seven footers don't have long careers but katie is a seven foot guard like a real natural guard we got shangoon as a guy that's up and coming that could possibly another I like him yeah you're saying like there's other guys that could have like trey young was could have been like a step current like there's a couple guys that you'll see as a guard that can shoot the three that could possibly emerge. into a Steph Curry.

Not saying that, it'll happen often, but I just don't think we'll ever see another Kevin Durant. But yes, there's a lot of guys. Like I said, Yolkich was high IQ playing against Shaq. He would have just, he would outsplice. I feel like he would have outsmarted Shaq. Not that Shaq was a dumb player. He was very smart player, but Yokic's his IQ and his pace,

I think he would have threw Shaq off. He probably got him in foul trouble. Took him out. And he shoots 40% from three. He shoot 42% for three. Right. Good luck guard that. You know what I get that.

Now, defensively, Shaq would have bullied him for sure. But on the other end, they're in trouble. And depending on the pace, if they're playing on today's era, Shaq's got to run up and down more. Yeah. We're not slowing the ball down and throwing a side of your possession. Right. Yeah, for sure. You got to be able to keep up.

And Yokish, as much as he looks unathletic, he's getting up and down the court. Absolutely. He runs AD sometimes down the floor. Like, he can still run the floor. Yeah. So don't get it twisted. Before we get into some trivia, last question. Where do you, so you do have Michael Jordan as your greatest of all time?

Yes. Because now we're into the space where we're starting to get more people say it's LeBron. And I understand it. I think Bronn has the greatest career of all the time. But Mike is my goal. Okay. Mike is my goal. That's fair.

I'm not mad at that. You were a part of one of the, probably one of the biggest shots in NBA history in Toronto with Kauai Linnett, sending you out to the finals. Were you more impressed by Kauai during that run or Kauai in San Antonio? Definitely that 2019 run. I mean, Kauai and San Antonio was still emerging. And he, after the year we won it, is when he became more of like the guy. Was he finals MVP?

What you did when he was finals MVP? He did. Okay. So after the finals MVP, that's when they kind of gave him the keys because he wasn't, he didn't have the keys before then. Tony was the guy.

You know what I'm saying? He took the keys. He took the keys. Tony was the guy. We still have Mono and Timi was still very good. Like I said, even though they're older, they still played very,

they played great. They were good keys. And then they, the emergence of Kauai, the next yearn of fourth quarter is down the stretch. Like, Pop, made sure he had the ball on his hands. And that happened very quickly. And I was like, damn, what the hell is going on here? But he became the guy.

So he was still young. When we got to Toronto, that's when his veteranship started to emerge. And he became more of the leader, not only, you know, by action, but even in the locker. I'm talking a little bit more. But that run, especially with coming off injury, coming back and doing it in one year and having knee issues. Like, he was playing on. one leg half that time we play in Milwaukee. You can see him limping up and down the court.

So him doing what he did and they just give him the ball every time making the right plays and leading us a championship. I don't know if we'll see that again. There's only one of the person I see in today's game that has an opportunity to do that. And that's Anthony Edwards because he's a two-way player. Not many two-way players can dominate both sides of the ball. It just takes a lot of energy. So Anthony Edwards does it.

So Jason Tatum is very good too. Like his other guys are very good. They just have a lot more help. Yeah. And not saying that Kauai didn't have help. but he dominated, had an unbelievable run against some really good teams. Philly was a really good team that could have and probably should have beat us. Milwaukee was a really good team that could have and probably should have.

They were up two games in Golden State, even though, you know, KD was out. They were a very good team as well. So for him to lead us to beat those teams, yeah, man, I don't know if I'll see another run like that. Do you have a top five New York high school basketball list? Top five players? Not players, individuals. Yeah, like top five. five players ever come out of Long Island.

We do Long Island, yeah. I mean, I got to go, Tobias is on that list. Tobias Harris, Wally World, Wally Zurbiac, Dr. J, Mm-hmm. Myself, and I'm going to have to throw Sue Bird in there. Okay. It's a good list. That's a great show love.

Yeah, that's a great one side. That's a great pick. Sue Bird, that's a great pick. She's a, you go. She's a legend, bro. Oh, absolutely. She's a legend. Absolutely.

Unbelievable. I had an unbelievable career. But there's some other players that came from Long Island that are very good as well. But I got to give a lot of respect to Wally World, Dr. Jay. So Tobias had an unbelievable career. I throw myself. But there's some other guys in there that deserve some more credit. But I got to give Sue Bird a nod.

I respect that. I know Lance Stevenson is Coney Island, but did you guys ever cross past? Because you guys are only like, what, two years apart? Youngin, man. Yeah, this is my young. And we played on SEAU team. So when he was in, they said he was in seventh grade, eighth grade. We don't know how old you was at the time.

Improject years. Yeah. But I think I was a junior senior. And I said he played, he was a young in on our team. Long Island Panthers, Gary Charles coach, which became New York Panthers. And then eventually, they said, you know, Charlie, Illinois played with us. Lamar wrote him back in day run our test. Joe Kim Noah, they were a little older than me.

But Lance was our young, like my young guy underneath me coming up. And then he ended up, I think, moving on and playing with Juice, which was, you know, tiny them guys with Sebastian play for us, the Brooklyn way. They all do they. Yeah, Lincoln. But he started off with Long Island Panthers. So, you know, Lance was one of my young guys when he was coming up, like 7th grade. All right. So, Danny, they say we don't know ball.

So we want to see if the ball is. We want to know how much music you, Danny Green know. So we're going to ask some questions. And I believe you have some questions for us as well. So we'll ask you. I got some basic ones, man. I can see if you know a little something. We'll ask you a question.

you'll answer and then you can ask us a question so first question how many girls were named in p. Pablo's freak league is it a is it a 8b 10 b 10 c12 or d 15 north carolina legend north carolina that's the north carolina song you hear that when you land at the airport so he had a couple songs with different girls in him so north carolina throw your hands up so it's that one just freakyly we just talked about freaky league freakleague freakleague he had a lot of names so i'm going to I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna go with, see, the 12 or 15, I'm gonna go with 15, I'm gonna go with D. That's correct. Yeah, he had a lot of names, bro.

It's like DMX, when DMX had that, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. The whole second verse. The whole second verse. We got to make like a name playlist of just names. Just name. Just name. Some of the best songs.

Yeah. He went kind of nuts with this. I'm gonna keep it, uh, I'm gonna keep it simple for you guys, man, because you say, y'all don't know, ball. Oh, man. So there's a couple of schools that are the top, you know, UNC Duke, USLA and Kentucky that it's usually the big names, not anymore as it used to be, but back in the day

they were the top teams that everybody went to school with because they had the most NCAA titles. Who has the most NCAA titles in men's basketball history between the four? Unc, one, Duke, two, UCLA three, Kentucky, four. Shit.

I want to say UNC, but I feel like this is more a trick. No. I want to say either I want to say either UCLA or Kentucky I'll go Kentucky What you got I mean I'm gonna stick I'm gonna stick with my first answer

But now I know it's wrong You don't know Just the way mall looked at me But I'm still I go UNC Okay you got UNC you said Kentucky Yeah Both are incorrect Is UCLA with 11

I'm about sick I know I know Kareem had what Man fucking Bill Walton had Before we were born They had like You know, Kareem, I probably got eight or nine. And it stretched, yeah, they had a long stretch. All right.

I should have stayed UCLA. Back in the day. Yeah. But as of late, I think the other teams have emerged, like in the last 20 years, they probably have most. But UCLA had a bunch of them way back in the day. Yeah. All right.

We'll stay North Carolina, somebody that you ran into early in his career. Jay Cole. Where was he, where was he born? A. Fayetteville, B. Chapel Hill, C. Charlotte, or D. is it where was oh this might i feel like it's a trick question or maybe i want to say i want to say i just want to say it's easy to say fair because he reps the fayaville so you know dreamville i'm gonna say fayetteville unless he's like a military baby that's born in germany but i'm gonna say fayetteville well your your second part was actually completely correct he was a military baby born in germany

and obviously fayetteville is a big military town so yeah his dad and mom moved back to fayetteville north Carolina after Germany, which is kind of good. So he should have got on that Tony Parker album. Germany. No, you know, like, Germany is crazy. France and Germany, you could solve some of their problems that way. Yeah.

All right. So there's only a few players that have won three titles with three different teams. Mm-hmm. I'm going to give you guys a hint. You know, me, I was one of them. So you guys, the introduction. So we're going to guess, you guys have to guess how many players. have three different titles with three different teams.

One is two. Two is four. Three is six or four is eight. So either one, two players have it, four players, six or eight. How many players you think has three different titles with three different teams? I'm going to go see. Two, four, six or eight. I'm going to go six.

It may only be two, though. No, I mean, shit, him and LeBrona, but that's two like that. Oh, I forgot, yeah, because he's a bubble round. I want to say I want to say eight Is this final answers? Yeah And you said six right

Six yeah That both incorrect against It's four Four players So two would be the answer Damn only four players Myself, me myself Bron

John Sally and Robert Orr John Sally from You know The Pistons Yeah Yeah And Robert Orry Yeah

Most people know John Sally For being in bad boys with the glasses. Well, okay, well, I guess it's three different teams. That's the, that's the... Yeah, three different teams. Not easy to do. So four is the answer.

Okay. All right. That's well. Not bad. You guys aren't far. At least you knew Brian had one. Yeah, well, I don't count. I'm one of those that don't, I hate the bubble ring, but that's just me.

Somebody got to win, brother. There's always lockout rings. People, you got to count them. Somebody's got a one of them. Oh, yeah. I'm not mad at it about. That's just a nasty ring. All right.

Yeah. I mean, we wouldn't prefer that either. We didn't get no parade. we can party, we can celebrate, we'd have no fans. Yeah. So it was an ugly thing all around for not just the fans, but the players as well. We would prefer different. All right.

For our last question, this Long Island artist or artist reached number two on the Billboard Hot 100 for three weeks, only behind Say You, Say Me by Lionel Richie. Is it A, Bismarkey, B, Raqin, C, Public Enemy, or D, Eddie Murphy? Wow. Say that question again. Behind how many who are what now? This Long Island artist or artists reached number two on the billboard Hot 100 for three weeks. Only behind Say You Say Me by Lionel Richie. So back in the day it has to be that back.

Rakim is from my area too. Wine dance right there. Yeah. Love Rakim. I forgot Eddie, Eddie from Long Island and Roosevelt guy. Yeah. I'm going to go Eddie Murphy, man. I'm going to go Eddie because he was a big time star back in the day.

I'm going to go Eddie. You are correct? Correct. Party all the time. It's classic. Produced by Rick James. Produced by Rick. Party all the time,

boy. We shit on Eddie's music career, but he has drinks. He got some hits. He got some hits. He got some hits. Boy had hits. All right,

but Danny, listen, man, we know you got to go. We appreciate you taking some time kicking it with us, man. Yeah, we got to do this in person, man. I appreciate you. Whenever you in New York, man,

whenever you in New York, pull up. I'll be there again. I said I'm there every couple months. I'll be at the end of this month, early May, but I'm also summertime. Some little ones is happening, but, you know, we definitely got a link, man.

Definitely, man. We love to have you in the studio, man, so we could kick in that. I would love to talk. I said, I haven't been in a music space. Like, I would like to be said, little ones. I don't watch much TV anymore or listening music. And I'm being with little ones, but. And the music industry has changed so much for when we were younger to now.

Yeah. But like a lot of women. Shout out to them, though, running the radio stations right now. So Lotto, Magnostalian, Cardi, B, Lillera. I mean, they got beat. They got hits. Nice space. Shout out to them.

Yeah. But, you know, I want to see the guys make a comeback. You know, shout out to, you know, Drake, Kendrick. They made some stuff happen this past summer, which was dope. But I want to see more of it, man. But I want to get more into cultural space, man, and be able to chop it up with y'all more. Have you spoken to Demar since the whole Kendrick and Drake thing? Yeah, actually, he was on the show.

We hadn't talked about that in particular. But I did the show that running back where we was talking about Steve, Katie, being ahead of Stefan Yokic. Yeah. So, resume-wise, I got them in front of Katie. but Katie, to me, a special player. But he was on the show, and we talked to when he was in Sacramento, he came on a show. We interviewed him, asked him some questions.

So it was brief, but I didn't have a chance to talk to him about the whole Drake situation. I'm sure he ain't phased by it. It's whatever. Yeah, that shit is. Toronto still loves him. Yeah, that's a fact. All right, Danny. Well, we hope to see you soon here in New York.

Come by the studio. Come kick it with us, man. Good luck with everything you're doing, and we'll see you down the road. Appreciate y'all, man. Love, man. Same. Good luck to y'all as well. My guy.

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