New Rory & MAL - Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball - Kadarius Toney

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

On this episode of Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball the guys are joined by Super Bowl Champion, Kadarius Toney. Rory and Mal the culture shock going from the south to New York, what went wrong with the New York Giants, and his rap career under the name Yung Joka #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, Rory, we are back with another episode of Don't Know Ball. I feel like though we're going to have to change the name soon because we're learning more than I expected us with our guests, you know, helping us learn about some of these sports that we think we know about it. But today we are joined by another world champion, another athlete that has achieved the highest level of success. Today we are joined with the 20th pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the Giants Select Cadarius Tony. From the University of Florida. I feel like you got to say University of Florida. Yeah. Cadarice, what's going on, man?

How you doing, man? Thank y'all for having me, man. I was saying, you got to say the University of Florida. You got to say, I think it's almost a thing. But real quick, I want to jump into it. Because I don't know the story, but I do know that you're from Alabama. How the hell did you pick Florida over Alabama? Yeah, someone's blasphemous.

Me personally, it was a... The weather. It was the weather. Yeah, it was kind of the weather, yeah, but it was a vibe when I went to Florida that I didn't catch anywhere else that I visited, you know what I'm saying? At the time, because me, I was a big field person. Like, if I felt like this is why I needed to be, you know what I'm saying, that's why I needed to be. And when I went to Florida, that's the feeling that the coaches gave me and the players and just the environment overall. Well, do you feel like it's important for, because you were a hell of a high school player coming up in Alabama?

Do you feel like it was important for your level of focus to kind of get away from home a little bit as far as going to college and being able to focus? Because being the start that you were as in Alabama and then to go to the University of Alabama, I'm sure it would have been pretty tough to kind of stay focused. It's home. Everybody knows you. You're a local hero. Did that play a part in you choosing the University of Florida? Like, I need to get away a little bit just to kind of focus? Yeah, it kind of did, especially where I come from.

like the environment there not kind of really grateful with you, like you try to do anything kind of positive, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's good to get back

but as far as like trying to be the first person to do something different is like it's kind of hard because you're going to get a lot of criticism and stuff. So yeah, that's kind of what,

they kind of was like a, kind of a role and yeah, I wanted to get away from home. Yeah, because I feel like I'd be too successful. I guess you could say. A lot of athletes don't talk about that though.

Like we don't talk about that part of, you know, becoming successful when you're on the, on the road and on your journey early, how being in your environment and being in your hometown can have its negative effects on your trajectory. Like you can fall into little pockets that you're comfortable with. You know, it's your comfort zone.

You're hanging out with your boys, get into the same dumb shit that y'all was getting into when y'all was younger. But now when you're trying to elevate and then know that you're becoming somebody, it's important for us to get away from those things that pull at us and keep us in those type of situation. So it's good to hear that you recognize that. you took that into account and when it came to picking

the University of Florida. Well, Anna Hernandez. Yeah, I just had a lot of people around me that just telling me, you know what I'm saying? It made me make a lot of right decision, you know? What was the biggest cultural difference going from Alabama to the University of Florida?

You know, the diamonds in your mouth. Not diamonds, I mean the goals in your mouth. Really, hang on a lot. It was like, it was really, in Florida, they just really don't care. It's just like you can just be yourself there. Nobody really going to judge and nobody going to really, you know,

look at you different sideways, you know what I'm saying? Like, you hear about the most craziest story in Florida, like the alligator man and all, you know, everybody gets in there. So talk to us about when you get to the University of Florida and you know that you're now a Gator,

what is that feeling? Because obviously there's a long, you know, tradition in history with the University of Florida. Like, what was it like, you know, being a, you know, all-American coming in, one of the highest recruits coming in,

what was it like for you adjusting like i'm here i have like you know this thing to uphold because this is the university of florida now like there's a whole line of great players that come out of this university did you put a lot of pressure on yourself like i want to be on the list of those names that have come through this this university and have done great things or was it like i'm just going to continue to be cadarius yeah it was kind of both i guess you can say because i feel like it was more of a i need to focus on myself to better myself but But at the same time, I want to have, like, goals and aspirations, do I'm saying? I always keep myself self-motivated, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I want to do this. I got to have one. I got to be this person. You know what I'm saying? Like, just always having that drive for myself, honestly. But, yeah, I would say, yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot.

The first game. What was the first home game, like, coming out that tunnel? What was that feeling like? Sensational. I feel like, it's probably a feeling I'll never forget just because it was just like, I feel like I walked into, like, I don't really even know probably just a big art

walking into I guess a sold out of arena or something it was just like I walked around I couldn't see them but people I couldn't see people you couldn't even see people you know what I'm saying? It was like it was crazy and then just the environment of the band playing the players like just knowing everything behind it too it just drove you just make you want to play hard

you want to just you know what I'm saying go crazy I mean did it almost feel like you would hit the pros because I mean obviously high school football in Alabama is huge but I don't even know if there's certain stadiums in the NFL that don't compare to Gainesville and everything in Florida. Did you actually feel like, all right,

this is professional football that I'm playing right now? Yeah, most definitely. Yeah, I definitely felt that environment there. Like, he prepared me for what was coming to, you know what I'm saying, in the league, like, especially like the good, the bad, the ugly, the, you know what I'm saying, whatever? With NIL and everything going on, I think there's a statute of limitations on everything now. Did the boosters come to you senior year of high school, freshman year?

What was that process like even before, you know, now that players are getting paid? honestly, no, I was never really approached by anybody. Or if I was, like, my parents kind of, like, probably took on their role for them and talked to them for me. Like, I really never was really approached by anyone. Like, I probably was, but not to mind knowing, you know what I'm saying, honest. Because that was never my focus to be caught up in the money, the hype and all. It was always just ball.

You know, I never, like, really care about, like, really getting paid from really just, like, when life happened, you know, you're kind of like, I'm working now. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's 9 to 5 mode. Yeah, because I feel like the movies and TV shows always make it seem like. like the boosters have their own little section at practice. Like they don't even go to work. They just sit there and they don't do nothing about football.

They should be giving suggestions and shit. Yeah, they probably do. I just don't know about it. I wasn't looking for it. I was out of focus. As far as the NIL, well, you know, high school players going into college and all of that, we've talked to a few guests that we've had on here and some of them have, you know, expressed their thoughts and feelings on it.

What do you feel about the NIL? I feel like, you know, I love the fact that athletes are getting paid to go to these schools because they generate, you know, so much money for these universities and things like that. But I do feel like the transfer portal is hurting college sports. Like, do you feel like you sit back and you see guys that into the transfer portal and you sit back now that you're, you know, in the NFL and say, yo, like this is crazy. Like, this is an actual thing where the season, kids can say, yo, I'm going to go. to this university next year, and I don't have to sit out. I can play next year. Do you think that that's helping the NCAA or hurting the NCAA?

I don't know. I feel like it's hurting it because it's taken away from the hunger and the drive of the game for the players because it's turning to like a money game. I feel like a lot of people, like I see a lot of people talking about how much people getting paid like this and that. Like, oh, I think Quinn, you were, I don't know the last name, yours, eras. Yeah, it had a year's, some crazy. Like it became a money game instead of more of a lot of a game.

You know what I'm saying? Type of thing. I feel like it's hurting. It's making the college game weak to me. I don't really even watch college football a lot. Let's see really Florida. Because a lot of people that was there or whatever I played with,

you know what I'm saying? They really partake then. But I don't really even watch college because I don't really even watch college because everybody want to go chase a bigger bag or chase, you know what I'm saying? Chase the West or not what? And it's like me, I didn't have no option or oh.

I can go here for me and go here for 500, you know, I didn't have the option. It was more about why I felt like my heart wanted to be in where I really feel like I can thrive. that you know what I'm saying like that's like it just watered down so we just had the uh we just had the NFL draft a couple weeks ago um and obviously shouldore sanders fell to the fifth round i believe watching the draft uh and you said you really don't watch college football but you obviously played the game at at the highest level so you have an eye and understand the game and

see it differently like do you feel like shouldore um obviously he shouldn't have dropped to the fifth but do you feel like Shador is as good as a lot of people think he is? Personally, probably not. I mean, it's just really based off

like the big games. I feel like he didn't want enough big games to say that he was because there's a lot of great quarterback that came through and they won a big games. I feel like he didn't win enough big games. And the caliber of ball that he was playing wasn't high enough of his life.

I feel like, because he went from Jackson State to Colorado there wasn't a real major jump like he went from Jackson State to Florida or Alabama or different school then I feel like yeah he might would have earned it like even if he didn't win anything you know what I'm saying but just because the caliber of football he playing

because that's a real NFL caliber type of ball like not saying all college football not but I know the NFL program I mean not NFL me an SEC program and I didn't went through it and no yeah it gets you prepared every aspect for the NFL so yeah I just yeah it didn't

Nah, I feel like, yeah, yeah, I feel like, take my down. But you don't feel like he should have dropped to the fifth round, though? Nah, I don't really say fifth, but, you know what I'm saying? I'm not a GM on, so I really can't say what they've seen and what I didn't see, because, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what people are, like, on the outside looking at, they don't really see, like, the cut-ups, you know what I'm there? Like, because you can see it, like, from the side angle all day,

what they show on TV, but if you have to cut up, you'll see it differently, like, okay, boom, we should have made this read at this point. Okay, boom, he heard the ball on. He did this wrong. Like that's what they're critiquing. Like that's what everybody else is not saying. They just say in the plays when it's done. You know what I'm saying?

Right. They go through a whole evaluation. You got to be in it to know. What was the toughest defense you went against in college? Oh my God. I hate these people. Missouri. Missouri, okay.

Missouri, yes. I swear, brother, the Missouri had the strongest players. Man, I swear, I thought one of the four broke my own one again. I swear. They got a real weight. They got a weight program over there. In Georgia. I can't, I, you know, Georgia for sure, but Missouri, I don't know what they used to doing, Missouri, but them folks were hitting out.

Who's the, who's the, who's the, who's the greatest college player that you, that you've watched? Personally, probably Cam New. I was great to say, Cam New to me is the greatest college football player. Like, I still, to this day, don't understand how he won a championship with that Auburn team. Yeah, I don't either. I cannot figure that out. I'm like, bro, if you go back and look at his team and the roster, to say that, yo, he won it all with this team.

And not saying those guys weren't good and talented. Yeah. But there were way better teams out there that everybody had winning it that year over that Auburn team. So to me, Cam Newton is the greatest college football player ever. But glad you said Cam, because I was trying to bring up Cam's name. The one thing that I do remember about Shador is, is he got into a little thing with Cam Newton

because he didn't like some of the things that Cam had to say about him. So, and when Cam approached him on the field to talk to him, Shaddochon gave him a cold shoulder walked away from now. I don't know if they ever spoke privately and hashed out whatever differences they had. But that was kind of telling to me

because one, they're both two black quarterbacks. Yes. But again, I feel like Cam, this is the greatest college football player ever. and if he has something to say about the way you're playing or performing, I kind of looked at Chador a little awkwardly when he got upset at what Ken. Because I didn't think Cam had any venom or any malice towards Chodore. I think he was given an honest critique from somebody who played that position,

who won at that position, and is now obviously in his part of his life where he's talking about players and analyzing the game. I didn't like the way Chador handled that and kind of gave Cam Newton to cold shoulder to me, I feel like it was a little disrespectful because it's like, yo, Shador, you're still trying to earn your stripes in this thing here versus who I think is arguably the greatest college player ever. Do you feel like there's a certain amount of respect owed? Like, if you see a great college receiver and he has something to say about you on his

podcast, would you see him at the game and then kind of give him the cold show, though? Would you have that conversation? Like, I appreciate it. And I take your words into account because you've done it. You've won at this level and you've accomplished what I'm trying to accomplish. Yeah, I mean, kind of I can see both point of views from others because I'm a big on respect type of thing too, like a person too. So it's like even although you feel me, you try to approach me like you approach me really because the cameras out. That's how I feel about it.

You're just somebody to clean your face because you already just talk bad about me on the internet. That's how I'm just talking about what you're doing. I know how you feel it. You feel me at the same time. I go through a lot of internet stuff too. But I know you feeling like he only approached me because the camera was out. this and then it's like you bad at me on the internet but you want to see me and show me love that's kind of weird like I notice how I should do a feeling but at the same time like

like most people would feel that way because it's like it's a lot of ways to do a lot of stuff you know what I'm saying like like how he could see him in person and do he could have told him that in person he would probably respect to him or handle the situation differently but it's like you go to the internet blast me talk bad about me and then want to see me in person and want to show love like I feel him on that kind of but at the same time like me I'm not that type of person to be disrespectful like that. So, like, I'm, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wouldn't, like, you want to see that out of me at all, like, as far as that.

You know what I'm saying? Like, as far as showing respect. Because me, I love watching or being approached by the older players and stuff like that when Randy Moss came to me, I think, when he was playing against the Chiefs, and I played with New York, matter of fact. And he told me that man, have you feeling good at the game on. Yeah, you know what I'm feeling great. You know what I'm saying?

Because it's like, it's so much respect and love that just for him being a great player. Like, I don't even know him personally, but just for him being a player is. I got some respect for him to what I would just listen to him. Even if he did say something bad at the same time, but it's just like, it's just all about character and who you wish to at the same time. Like, that's why I could, they would have just boil down to. Yeah. You know, Marl just brought up the draft.

I know players aren't allowed to say what team they wanted to go to. They have to say, hey, I just want to get drafted and do the best I can, whatever team takes me. On draft night, did you have a particular team in mind that you wanted to go to? Nah, not personally. Not really. I was kind of open-minded. It was more of, I didn't want to play ball and just like, I don't really care.

It just put me somewhere, you know what I'm saying? Because I really don't even like the cold, but guess where I go to the cold and plays in America? You know what I'm saying? You're like, I can't be mad. I just want to go out of here and ball. Yeah, well, I was about to ask, because almost already answered with the cold, but, you know, Alabama and Florida isn't the craziest transition. But Florida to New York is definitely one of those.

What was that cultural shock like coming up here? It was really shocking. But it was really shocking. But it wasn't nothing I wasn't ready to embrace, though, just for the love of the game. Really, just love for the organization, even though it turned sour because I feel like it really played me. You feel?

But I didn't love. I didn't really care. You know what I'm saying? Like, whatever. So you came to, you got drafted to New York. What is the first thing on your mind after hearing your name called and walking that stage? like now that everything is official

like I'm officially in the NFL you know do you go back to that time as being a kid in the park like you know dreaming about being in the stadium like yo you're finally here like what is that I always wanted to know what athletes that one initial once you hear your name called

and it's like oh shit like it happened I heard my name I'm on the stage I'm shaking the commissioner's hand I'm taking pictures I got to go backstage and do all of this media now like you're in the NFL like that that moment, what is that moment like? Like, what is that feeling when you're sitting at the table with your family

and then you hear your name called? It felt so surreal. They called my name and I still didn't realize that they called my name. I was tripping. Like, I was, oh, my God. You know what I was? I was so in shock because it was like a dream come true because it's like, you grow up your whole life and you hear about it.

And you just knowing the steps that you got to go through it and you finally make it. It's just like, just, I don't know. I really can't even explain the feeling. It's just like, I don't know. Like, I really want to just enjoy that feeling. I mean, had that feeling the rest of my life. Like, it just felt that great.

You know what I'm saying? It's just like, I don't know. Like, as you dream come true, might as well say literally just that. So now you're in New York, you had probably your best game that I can remember was against the Cowboys, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 189, 1-89.

Yeah, yeah. Like, you go right back to it. You know exactly what you had. Like, what is those moments like as a player? Like, when you go out and you have those type of games where it's like everything that I worked for, all the work, like, it clicked at the right time. everything came together because as guys that just watched the game,

I don't think that, you know, a lot of the fans when we're watching it, we don't realize how much preparation it takes to just get that moment of that play. The receiver catching the ball. Like so many things has to happen in those moments. Like, but then at the end of the game, game is over and you look back and you had the game that you had. What is that feeling like in the locker room? Like, damn, like, okay, that was what I worked for all season,

and one of those type of games. What is that feeling like after having a game that you had against the Cowboys? After the game like me personally, I just feel like I wanted to do it again because I feel like me at that time, me and my mindset I was having at the time, I just want to do everything I can to help my team win. So like at that point, it was just like, man, just throw me the ball. I just felt like I just was proving the point, making a statement for myself at that point. You know what I'm saying?

Just like, hey, just I want to be that guy for y'all. You know what I'm saying? Personally, like it was just, I guess like a statement, I guess you can say, like personally, it just. It was life-changing because it was just like from playing park ball and just making big players being talked about and everything in the NFL. Just like all over the NFL, it just is different. You know what I'm saying?

It's way different. I don't know. It's way different. Now, you told Missouri and Georgia was the toughest defense. Who was the toughest defense in the toughest corner you had to match up against in the NFL? Toughest defense. Probably be the Eagles. Probably the toughest matchup.

I don't really know because I ran a lot of short routes. You know what I couldn't really like really get into a lot of matches. Like a lot of matches I had on the outside. I kind of like really, you know what I'm saying? Hand of my business I kind of felt like, you know? So like I don't really, it's a lot of great DBs in the league for sure, though. So it's like, you want a great DB I went against or just played against or just had a chance to share the field with. Probably had to be Slate.

Yeah, Dary's Slate. Yeah, probably had to be there to be Dary and Slate. Yeah, the way he, his footwork, when he just played, like he just had to. He just smooth to me. Then he's not no trans talk or none of that. He just chill. He laid back, great play, man. We're good, we good.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Just overall, like, yeah. With even Breaking Odell's rookie game record for receiving yards, what do you think was the disconnect with you and the Giants while you were there? Honestly, I feel like it was more of, I think it was probably just availability. It was just a lot that they was trying to throw on my plate at the time that I wasn't really, just prepare for, I guess you to say,

because it was like I'm trying to play through injuries. I'm acquiring new ones, new ones, trying to, you know what I'm saying? Just trying to be the same player. And it's like, when you have an injury or something going on, you can't really be that same player. And it's just like, I feel like they was asking for more than what I was able to give at that time from my body standpoint, I guess you could say.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it was more of like, okay, I'm pushing myself to the limit every day. And it's like, okay, I get the Sunday. I might burn myself out. Or I get to the day before I get fried that burn myself. You know what I'm saying? to what I just do, like, something crazy might just happen to it. It's like, yeah, I just held myself back, I guess you could say.

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Yeah. What was that like your time with Kansas? City. You left New York and went to Kansas City, I believe. What was that feeling like getting there and then obviously getting to the Super Bowl, but not only getting to the Super Bowl, having a moment in the Super Bowl that no other player ever had. Like in that moment, can you hear the stadium? Can you hear players on the field or is it just like you zoned out? And at what point does the, oh shit moment kick into your head? Like, I'm doing some crazy shit right now that no player has ever done in the Super Bowl.

For the first question, I was on doubt. Like, I didn't hear anything. The second one, it was when I made the first move when I came around and I saw my whole fleet of white jerseys, it was that old shit moment. I'm like, oh, my God, what the fuck is happening right now? You know what I'm bad? It was a crazy moment because it was just like just facing all that virtually I had just went through in New York, dealing with all that and then just being able to be the player I was in the school bowl for my first. my team and we won. It felt unreal.

Like, I couldn't do them, but I couldn't do them but cry out of the game. Like, because it was crazy that I was playing to get like one of my closest friends from Florida. As a matter of fact, I was playing against him. He was on the Eagles at the time too. So I couldn't do it with a cry. Like, it was just everything. It was just everything that was going on.

Because I had just lost my, my, like, one of my closest friends, like earlier that year too. So like I was just going through a lot. You know what I'm saying? Just personally. You know what I'm saying? And he knew that. So it like, they just made our relationship grow even closer because he understood

what was going on. that overall. You know what I'm saying? Like just that relationship. It just, just grew. What was some of the first conversations you had with Coach Reed

coming from New York to Kansas City? Really just, playbook, you know, really just implement me at ASAP. He, oh, we need you.

Like, oh yeah, like, let's get this started. Like, hey, what you like this, you like this, you like this.

You know what I'm saying? He implemented, he's going back to watch Florida film. Oh, yeah, I like the way he did this motion right here. Like, that's kind of what the motion

coming in in the Super Bowl. Why did the motion while I scored on? That's what that kind of come in. Like he liked why I did the one against Tennessee, like my senior year. He was like, we could do something like this. But without you doing that, we just going to bring you right back because of the way their defense came up. You know what I'm saying?

He's a real guru. I love Coach Reed. That's what. That's my favorite person right now. You had a, in high school, you played quarterback position as well. Playing with a quarterback like, Pat, was in those moments when you first got there, did you recognize, like, how long did it take for your, one, the chemistry to connect with y'all.

And then at what moment did you realize like, okay, like, Pat is special. Like, he's, me and our connection, our chemistry, he gets it. He's putting the ball right way I can go get it. At what moment did you realize, like, yeah, Pat Mahomes, he's as good as advertised. Oh, the moment I realized that was, I think it was like one practice, man, through some, he threw like a jump. It was a crayon or what kind of pass he threw, man. I wish I recorded on film.

Man, the man threw a crazy pass. I'm like, yeah, he's different. You know what I'm in? I'm like, yeah, I never seen nobody doing nothing like. They're not even playing, nothing over our video. Like, the man's serious. And it was on the money. But our chemistry started to kind of be like kind of when I first got that.

Because when I first got that, we kind of like, you know what I'm saying? We're talking a lot of just, you know what I'm saying? Just spending more time. Like, oh, just running around. Let's do this or whatever. So, so it was kind of like easy for me to like catch on and get involved early. You know what I'm saying?

Like the coaches kind of made it to like emphasis. oh yeah, we got to make sure y'all put your time and make sure everything kind of on point because we need you right now. Like, just be a player. What's the biggest difference between practicing, practices with the Giants and then practices with the Chiefs? Chiefs did go full speed all the time. They don't know no brakes.

They don't know breaks at all. Shels. It's a vibe at practice, but they're like, boy, you're going to run. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. Yeah. All right. So you just announced, I guess, a few days ago,

you're retiring from the NFL to pursue a rap career. I ain't retired for the NFL. All right, so you said that, so you were just talking shit. Nah, I'm saying, I don't even know what the audio even come. I don't know what even come from why I said I was returning to play. I mean to do music. I always did music.

I've been doing music in like 2018. Right. So you're not retiring from the NFL? No, no, no, no, I'm not retiring to do music. No, no, no way near it. All right. Now, I've more more exposure for my music because I'm really better than a lot of the other people they'd be listening to. They'd be artists, but me and be athletes.

But, no, I ain't, no, I ain't saying about no retirement from football. Like, why? Why chase one view when I got both? Like, I do both. Like, I believe practice might come home and record. That's exactly what I was about to get into. Like, yo, I think you could do both. Like, what I'm saying, I leave practice might come home and record or whatever.

Like, anytime I get a chance or when I'm just free, ain't doing that. I'm not what I'm saying? I'm free? I'm recording. know, just handling my business. I know that's another passion of mine. Like, just artistry to me. Now, coming up in Alabama, who was some of, like, what's the music scene like in high school? What do you all listen to in Alabama? In Alabama, we were to listen to a lot of people. I mean, during the, like, we were able to artists too at the same

time, because we list a lot of the high artists, you know what I'm saying? Like, back then, it was like Rich Home, you know, Thug, or Future. Well, future my top artist, that's why I listen to a lot. But, you know, everybody that was just pretty much popping. A lot of local artists at the time like a rich boy, seenow. It might have been a few more people, but as far as local music or stuff like that,

we weren't really a lot. We were just listening to a lot of main artists. We was on a young boy kind of before he kind of blew up. You know what I'm saying? Like when he first dropped 30 baby and all that, like we were like the first one to catch wind

because we like right next door. But yeah, we went to flew about everybody. Are you one of those artists that you push your music on your team? Like you go in the locker room, grab the arcs, as soon as you lay something down,

you just start playing your new shit for the team and see what they feel about it, or you kind of keep that separate from your teammates. Yeah, yeah, I kind of keep that separate. I don't really intertwining it to, like, I have a teammate that they have came up to me like, oh yeah, but I like you music. You know what I'm saying?

That teammates didn't throw it on in the locker room or something just played, but personally I don't really force it on it, I don't really like to push it on about it. A lot of people really don't even know I make music, you know what I'm saying? Because it's like I really just put ball first, you know what I'm saying?

Because it's really my priority, like the real like my heart you know what I'm saying like at the end of day I know I can do music but I know my timeline of football I'm gonna be so long you know my body can't go can't do this so like I'm just trying to maximize my opportunity with that gosh you when uh you were going out in Florida was the music much different than what you were listening to in high school but I mean you're saying future oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Florida yeah yeah Florida were way different. Do I say, I was just on, man, major nine. It was a lot of Kodak. I said, Kodak, tech. Like, it was a lot of people, Coli P, you know, young and age, you know,

it was a lot of different Florida influences down up. What about when you came up to New York and you were going out to some of the clubs? Was that a complete, completely different situation? Nah, not really. I mean, me personally, I don't really go club like that. So I really want to even catch the wave and no, like, no other music anywhere else. I don't really like clubbing like that. I'd be chilling. What about in the locker room? Was it?

Who was controlling the music? Shep. He'll mainly control the music. But he playing, he's playing all kinds of music. He might play some stills in the hill. You know what I'm saying? He might play all kinds.

Like, he playing R&B and stuff too. So it was just no, no New York culture just in the locker room. You know what the end of the time. Yeah. Now, as an artist and as an athlete, would you rather have a Grammy

nominated album for your music or would you rather have a Super Bowl MVP? Really? I thought I was going to win Super Bowl MVP two years ago. I thought he was going

in his back on his head like it could be made. But now personally though probably just be an NFL MVP. I mean a Super Bowl MVP just because of the simple fact that's like always been like a dream to win a Super Bowl.

But to be an MVP of it, that's, that probably just put the icing on the cake. You know what I got two rings, but I still ain't really satisfied, you know, personally, like I still want to kind of, you know what I'm saying? Like, accomplish more, break my whole record. You know what I'm saying?

I want to do more. So, like, yeah, like, I'm always hungry. Is there an artist you compare your music to the most or? Yeah, kind of, but not really. Like, I say sometimes, well, back when I first started making music, like, people just tell me I sound like, thug, gonna. Like, look, babe, like that type of vibe.

But over the years, I kind of, like, kind of transition. I don't really like to be kind of compared to people. So, like, I kind of, kind of, like, transition, rap, you know what I think? Kind of, like, try to change my style, you know? And a lot of some of your songs I listen to, one of the things that I hear you say a lot is, you always got your head down, focused, stay in your own lane, mind your business. How much of that is true to Cadarious as the man? Like, how much do you stay in your own lane and not really focus on?

with anybody else got going on and just lock in on with the, and what you're doing. I always do that personally. That's a lot of reasons why I'd be going, am I after the internet, really like I'd get my pages or whatever. Like I just really just get into it my life,

get into it to them myself, focus on me. Like, because I feel like a lot of people being influenced by too much, like as far as the internet, celebrities and stuff like that. Me, I try to get it far away from that as possible. Like, you feel you just because of the same fact, like people would be thinking this,

it's so much to it, but it really not that. people push you on the pedestal, but at the same time, you go through the same stuff they go through. You're all who, like, it's like, people look at you differently or treat you differently because of money, and it's like, I get it, but at the same time, like we're all human, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I just try to get away from all that, or, you know what I'm saying? I just try to get a far away from and just be myself and be two of my people, you know what I'm saying? Like, just, you know what I'm saying? Like, just be who I am. Like, I'm not trying to be nobody else. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm not? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Being a professional athlete, I'm sure, you've ended up in a lot of rooms with other rappers, other musicians, especially even after Super Bowl parties, et cetera. Have you ever approached a rapper for a collab request? Like, yo, I rap too. Yeah, I said something to Travis Scott.

He came in to our, we got a picture, a matter of fact. I said some of him when I was in the locker room. I think I was in the training room. He came in that I was talking to. I said something to him. But besides that, I don't really reach out to a lot of artists and stuff. Like, could it be kind of weird. Like, something would be, you know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, I said, like, it's like, we know certain stuff, no certain people be like, nah, people don't be who they say they is on the internet, you know what I'm saying? That's a fact. Who's the one artist that you absolutely like, damn, I got to get a verse. I got to get on the song with him. Outside of future, I know future is your favorite. But outside of future, who's the one guy that you like, damn, I got to get a, I got to get a song with him? A little dirt.

Okay. He's in a little bit of trouble right now. I don't know. I don't know if that verse is ever going to happen. I hope it does. Listen, saluting love to Dirk. I hope it does. I want that for you, but he's in a little tough predicament right now.

Yeah, well, definitely free him, though. Yeah, shout out to Dirk. Is there any other athletes that rap that you would collab with? Because, you know, we've talked to a few people just on this series that also make good thing. Is that something you would ever do? Yeah, facts. I would say, I'm hoping to drop this song. I got a, or I'm trying to get him to finish his verse.

but JD, obviously, I don't know if y'all know JD. JD? Yeah, Jalen Darden. Okay. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Jaylon Darden, yeah. I make music with him. But a lot of other athletes or whatever,

they don't really reach out and trying to make no music, you know what I'm saying? So I just really just stay in my lane with that too. You know what I'm saying? I just stayed, like, to myself, like let somebody approach me or come away my way. I ain't really going to look for nobody, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Who's one of your teammates, though, that we might not know, but you know that they can make music, they can rap. I would say Gary, Garrett, Bright Water. I would say, I would say, I play with him in New York, too. But he can rap too. He just dropped, like, I think, probably a few months ago. But I would listen to his, yeah.

Like, he could spit, though. I was there's a few people that are really spit in this. But, you know what I'm saying? But they don't really get a, you know what I'm saying? I reckonation. Mm-hmm. I mean, we had Pac-Man on, and Pac-Man was much better than I expected. Yeah.

Pac-Man Jones, he could rap, for real. And his music is pretty good, too. He's not just, you know, rapping. He's making songs that are pretty good. Pac-Man shocked me. And didn't he freestyle on the show, too? Was that him or someone else? Did he may have.

He was in a golf simulator store. Somebody's... Pack was on all kinds of shit that day. We were just giving it with that. Shout out the Pac-Man, though. For sure. All right, so. We got some questions.

We got some questions for you and you got some questions for us. We want to see exactly how much, you know, we don't know more, but we want to know exactly how much music you know. So we got some questions for you, and then you're going to give us some questions to see how much either we don't know more or how much you don't know music. All right, so for the first question, which of these young thug features was his first to go number one on the Billboard Hot 100?

Is it go crazy? Chris Brown, the young thug? way too sexy, Drake and Young Thug, Franchise Travis Scott and Young Thug or Havana, Kamilla Cabello, and Young Thub. The hell, it's Savannah, isn't it? You are correct, the first one? It isn't way too sexy with Drake and Future?

I don't even think that's with Doug. Oh, yeah, that is. No, Thug might be on that. Thug is on it? I think so, yeah, he might be on that, right? Yeah, all right, cool. Make sure I wasn't tripping. All right, you got a question for us now.

Oh, yeah, I got you. Yeah, I got you. I got chow. Let me see. Well, we got to keep our street going. Let me get y'all together. Let me get y'all together. I'll bet. So who has the most passing touchdowns as a rock receiver in the NFL history?

One, me, Cadarist Tony. Two, Antoine Randell. Three, Julian Eltony. Four, Heinz Ward. That's tough. All right. I know for a fact, Edelman has like two.

Yeah, he could throw. What was the question? Who has the most what? What was the question? Who has the most pass and touchdowns as a wide receiver? Wide receiver in the NFL history. I feel like Heinz Ward, they used to rock.

Often he used to throw. I feel like Hans Ward got a few of them. And who was B? Yeah, yeah, speaking with John Nelson? That's Jail. No, I'm saying. Who was B? I forgot the name.

Rand O. Antoine Randell. Randall L. I think Randall L. Yeah. I'm going to go D. Hans Ward. Hans Ward. Yeah, I'm going to say Hans Ward.

Hans Ward. Well, both y'all do not know, ball. How y'all think? It's Antoine Randall. Fuck it, man. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you got a swing.

You got a swing for the fencing sometimes, man. Fuck it, man. Do you have any? How many? How many do you have? How many do you have? In the end of the future,

my pants and stuff? I ain't got nothing in the NFL. Okay. They don't let me throw. They don't let me throw. I'm not going to lie. I would have felt like shit if it was you. If you would have said me, I got them.

I would have been like, you. I did not know that. All right. Oh, nah. Are they scared? Let me throw. All right. The year you were drafted,

what was the most streamed song of 2021? A, Doja Cat, need to know. B. Drake, Lil' Baby, wants and needs. C. Cardi B. Up or D. Lonaise X. Montero? Montaro. Yeah.

I don't keep up with this catalog. I'm sorry. Yeah, because I don't really like the other people. You said, who? Let me go baby and Drake. You said, once a needs. That's, B. Is that your answer? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go with B.

It's D, Lil Nas X. Little Naz X. I already know it. I know. I didn't know what I didn't know what I said. You ain't want to say. You just didn't want to say it. You knew it.

You felt you were watching me little NazX. Be like, I can't say Little Nazex. I can't say it. No, not the only is fucking the devil in the video. Let's get my rights right here. All right. You got one for us. Fags.

Okay. So I finished my college career with 12 touchdowns. Which former New York Giant wide receiver is tied for second all time in Florida Gator's history with 29 receiving touchdowns? One, Amani Tumer, two, Odell Beckham Jr. Three, at Hiller, four, Hakeem Nix. Wait, but they had to be a Florida Gator, right? He was on Florida Gator, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Florida Gator receiver. Did Amani go to? Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all-time Florida. Yeah, Florida gave him out of history. Oh, Delle didn't go to Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did the King Nick's though?

I don't, I can't remember if Hakeem Nix went to Florida. I can't remember. Is him a Cooper? I won't go Hakeem Nix. I'm going to go to Moni Cooper. Ah, Monty, Tuma. Tumor. Tumor.

Tumor. Tumor. Yeah. Yeah, both of y'all wrong again. Yeah, y'all need to get any. Y'all history books. Not really a Gator fan, man. Yo, Gadirio, said y'all need to get into history books, not even the sports books.

You got to get into history. Listen, I like Florida State. Hey, the answer, uh, hike, uh, Hiler. Oh, okay. All right, okay. All right. All right. So we got the LSU.

Yeah. Then I would have got it right. We got one more question for you. All right. What song did Rihanna open with during her Super Bowl halftime show? Obviously, you were part of that Super Bowl. Was it... Before, we were segregated, we can go.

Before Maugh asked that part, we have had a debate this past year. Do the players watch the halftime show during the Super Bowl? No, we do not. I'll coach just have a lockdown. Now, we've got to win this game. Yeah, yeah. Is it like TV maybe in the corner of something that maybe just happens to have it on? And you look and past the chartboard?

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Look, people around the curtain. Yeah. Yeah, but we got bigger, we got bigger business going on. We got big of business going on. Yeah, we got to finish this game, right? It's better to do it.

Because we were down 10 at that point during our game. So, yeah, they like, oh, nah, yeah. Everybody close your eyes. Close your eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, some. But can you hear some of the performance, though? Because, I mean, it's a halftime.

The way the locker room is, that's just soundproof. You can't hit nothing. Like, you can't hit nothing. Yeah, you can't have none. Okay, cool. All right. So what's song to Rihanna, O'clock? in the half-time performance with it.

Was it A, bitch, better have my money. B, diamonds. C, where have you been or four, pour it up? I really might say diamonds, but I don't really, AJ Clive one day, see if I would have had a cheat code. I don't know. I'm gonna go with diamonds, though.

I'm gonna dig over diamonds. Finally got one wrong. Yeah. It's bitch better have my money. Oh, my God. But she did close with diamonds. Diamonds was like a finale. Yeah, she closed with diamonds.

At least I remember some of it. Got me a little clip or something. You won the game. The most support part, you won the game. You won the game. You won the game. I'll say, my last one right here, though. Yeah.

I'll say, who has the most touchdowns by a player born in the state of Alabama? One, Julio Jones, two, Nico Collins, three, Terrell Owens, four, Amari Cooper. Who has the most touchdowns? Yeah, by a player born in the state of Alabama. The only person I know that was born in Alabama for sure is Julio Jones in that. Yeah, Julio's born Alabama. I'm just going to go with who I actually know is from Alabama. Is Tyrell?

Oh, he's from Alabama? He sound like it. Everyone in the South sounds the same. I don't know where it's the fuck. I'm going to go to A. Julio Jones is from Alabama. He got a lot of fucking touchdowns. He's from me from out there where I'm from Alamos.

He's like from Foley. Like Foley and Mobile probably like 45. minutes away. Okay. Who are the other names? Nico Collins, him in the All-Star Game, Terrell Owens, and Amari Cooper. Who has the most touchdowns for a player born for? I'm going to say Julio Jones. Yeah, y'all both want to go on here, just going to type it in your iPhone right now. Y'all wrong. You said, it's Terrell.

Who would know that, though? It's real. It's Terrell Owens. You said that. I thought you were going to go with your move. But you know what it was? I couldn't remember if Terrell was from Alabama or not. And I'm like, damn, like, where is he from Alabama? He is obviously from Alabama. Alexander Citton.

I just learned that right here today. I didn't know. You didn't even know. All right, so I don't feel bad. And this is what I thought. Josh set up the questions. And when he put Odell Beckham in the Florida Gators question, I was like, all right, well, he went to LSU.

So this made me. Terrell Owens is probably from like Tennessee or some shit. Yeah. But if I don't feel they were all from Alabama, I would definitely say Terrell Owen. Cadarious is one of the greatest high school players in Alabama. And he didn't even know Terrell Owens was from Alabama. I did not know. He didn't even know that.

So we don't feel fucking bad. Fuck it, man. We lost today. It's all good. Cadarius, thank you for joining us. Good luck with everything. All your music. I'm going to keep tuning in.

Listen to. I've been listening to a couple of your joints watching your videos. Appreciate you, bro. Put the chopper down, though. Leave the chopper. Leave the chopper at home, man. It was a problem. Yeah.

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