New Rory & MAL - Season 1 | Episode 10 | "Day Walker"
Episode Date: August 27, 2021Rory & Mal sit down to discuss Mal's recent trip, where he gives us some insight on Summer Walker’s upcoming album (2:40), which gets the guys talking about all of the newly released music, such... as Ty Dolla $ x DVSN's new mixtape (14:20). Anticipation for Hip-Hop's Big 3 to drop has increased even more now that Kendrick has entered the chat (20:53)! Summer Jam gives DaBaby a second chance (43:47), and Rory gives his opinion on the correct way to handle cancel culture (48:00). This leads into a random discussion on sign language interpreters being sexy but necessary (53:00). They move into discussing what makes vagina bad (1:06:00) , coming to another man as a man (1:19:50) + more!Like, comment, subscribe! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Am I too old to know what this now your tweaking thing is that's going on right now?
I don't know.
I started guessing maybe people like everybody saw me this weekend and knew that I was tweaking.
So everybody was just like...
So you think the entire internet is saying, nah, you tweaking it's how they saw you?
I think they saw me.
I was like, oh shit, y'all know I'm tweaking.
You was giving it up in Atlanta?
No, no, no, not at all.
The whole internet was like, no, I gotta let y'all know.
Like, they he's tweaking.
Nah, man, I was chilling, man.
I don't know what's that.
What is that about?
No, I was generally asking you.
I have no idea.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know a lot of shit that's going on.
Well, I mean, if somebody was tweaking, you got to call them out.
I don't know.
And then say nah before, just so they know it's a negative.
Yeah, like, yo, nah.
I feel like we kind of adopted how Spanish-speaking countries,
like make things negative or positive
or male or female or whatever when they talk
because now we just add nah in front of something
to make sure they know it's a negative thing.
Yeah, because nah, it leads you into the like,
like no.
So I'm dead and whatever you just said,
it's no to that.
Start of the sentence.
And then I'm going to give you the yeah.
Like, nah, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Which makes perfect sense to me.
Yeah, you know how to break it down.
You know what people are talking.
You know how to decipher what they're saying.
But I don't know what that nah,
he tweaking or she tweaking shit is.
Somebody was tweaking.
How was it, Lennar, though?
Lanna was great, man.
I was chilling most of the time.
I was in the studio with Justice,
and they was finishing up the summer album.
She has another.
Another.
So all that...
Classic.
Oh, God.
On the way.
He got me again.
What?
Listeners, he got me again.
How?
How so?
Last time, months and months and months ago,
you're like, yeah, I'm just shoot up to Toronto real quick,
see my people, see my family.
Mm-hmm.
Then we come to find.
out you actually went up for the summer show.
And today, you tell me on Friday, like, yo, I'm going to go down Atlanta real quick,
then see the family, you know, my nephews.
No, I did that.
That was the second half of the weekend.
You was chasing summer.
No.
Don't say that.
What's that movie about the surfers that go around the world?
500 days of summer?
That's you.
You're 500 days of summer.
No, I wasn't.
Whatever's at a studio you can't find her in?
No, I didn't even know.
I hit Justice when I got to Atlanta and came in the studio.
But Justice, he lived in.
LA. That's crazy that you would like
In Atlanta the same day flowing.
And we had no, we had
This wasn't planned.
This was, yeah, this was not planned.
Okay.
This was literally like, oh shit, I'm in Atlanta, pull up.
So you canceled all your plans in Atlanta
to go A&R?
No.
No, I still did what I had to do.
But then I stopped by the studio and
kicked it with Justice and
Sean Garrett, who was a who's producing
the album.
Dope.
And, yeah, man, someone, she got, she got some shit on the way,
bro.
I've heard some great, great things about
that album.
Yeah, she has.
I've heard one.
Ladies will have no shortage of captions anytime soon.
Summer is coming back to give the ladies all of the captions that they need.
Okay.
For that, at least the foreseeable.
Was she present there?
Yeah, but in another room.
Okay.
Not in the room we were in.
She was writing in another room.
Did you say hello and that's like you've been a big fan and no.
What's her hive?
Said hello.
What's her hive?
I don't know.
The summers.
I'm down.
The day walkers?
The heat wave.
The heat waves.
We're the heat waves.
Because it's summer and she's walking.
Yeah, but we're not the heat waves.
We can't be the walkers?
No.
Oh, that's also offensive too.
Everyone can't be in it.
Maybe day walkers, night walkers.
That's actually offensive to redheads, by the way.
Is it?
Yes.
If you've seen the South Park episode,
listen, man, we're at the bottom of the, I understand that redheads are at the bottom
of the totem pole of people that have been oppressed.
I understand that.
I'm fully aware of that.
Not trying to compare to anyone.
we were oppressed and by oppressed I mean bullied at school a lot right right and then there was a
whole south park episode that was dedicated to talking about how gingers did not have any soul and by the way
it's a hysterical episode but i believe in there i think i would be considered a day walker
in there because my hair is not as bright red and i can go out in the sun to some degree oh okay
i can walk in the day yes i have to go from tree to tree to tree like i have to find the shade yeah yeah
but i am a day walker yes and that is that is offensive okay i didn't know see and you added the er to
Walker, which is even crazier to me.
Dave Walker, like, would have been a little bit better to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see what you're saying.
See, I don't know what's offensive anymore.
Every day I'm learning.
There's new offensive things every day.
So I'm learning as a go.
Forgive me.
I'm not trying to offend you.
I mean, I actually think we should take everything from your entire career and you
should never be able to fraud for your family ever again.
I think that's where it's headed, honestly.
Like, you told us they took assholes away from Yankee Stadium.
They did.
Now I can't call you a day Walker.
I mean, I don't know.
How will your life ever move forward?
I don't know what's going on.
anymore, man. I don't mean to be offensive. But yeah,
Summer has an amazing, amazing album
on the way. She has
a lot of dope features. I don't know
if I could give, should give them any of them
way, but she has a lot of dope features.
And yeah, man, she's,
she's on the way. Yeah, I heard
a couple months ago one, one
record from it, and it was,
I'll even sound like the label guy. I don't
even talk this way. It's a smash.
No, no, no. It's a hit record. It's blazing hip-hop and
R&B. No, listen to me. They played about,
And it wasn't sequenced, but Justice played about seven records straight.
And those seven records were probably some of the best R&B I've heard in the last 10 years.
Okay.
Easily.
Now, Justice is amazing at what he does.
For those who don't know, Justice from LBRN that, you know, manages Black, Summer Walker, Drum,
amongst a long, great roster of artist division now.
He is really good at his job.
But Justice is also extremely confident.
artist, which is a good thing. So I can never always take his word for it when he tell.
It's literally the greatest time in the last 50 years. Like, all right. I know this is your
artist. I know you love. I know you love your artist and you're confident. You're amazing at making
albums. He wasn't lying about this though. This is definitely, I told them, this is probably
just, I heard about 10 of the records. And if they said I didn't hear about six, it was about
six more that I didn't hear. But just those 10, this is definitely one of the best R&B albums
in the last 10 years. That's amazing to hear because Ari has an amazing album coming
soon as well.
I love that R&B,
like actual real R&B is in a good place.
Yeah.
So should Drake and Kanye,
while they're playing fucking Pity Pat
and, you know,
hopscotch with each other,
should they be scared of summer
and not each other?
Yeah, man.
I think that once people hear
this summer music and they hear the album,
everybody's going to play this album.
I could make a case in some degree
that captions control album sales.
Absolutely.
And that's why Drake sells so much.
Yeah, yeah.
But summer, I'm telling you,
this album, the ladies are going to be, they won't have any shortage of captions any time soon.
Okay.
This is the album that's going to send them into 2023 with captions.
Trust me.
The whole of next year is no captions.
I don't want to ask too many questions because I don't want, of course, let's respect summer and when she wants these types of things to come out.
But the vibe of it, are the women around me going to hate me more or are they going to be in love more?
she's being very honest this album you know we watched her the unique thing about summer is we
actually watched her grow and go through her relationship and you know she's we we see it she
follow her on social media on either her summer walker account or her galacta or account
it's like it's documented so the the content is very honest uh it's a very interesting
perspective she's speaking from
because it's not like a
she's not bitter
or hurt
it sounds more like disappointed
oh that's worse you know what I mean
like it's not she's not talking
it's not a bitter thing it's not
she's disappointed
and you know
she expected more
is it like when your girl will
scream at you curse you out go nuts
burn your shit everything and you're like
all right there's still hope she's still
clearly in this and then it moves to the
She's like mad calm.
Yeah.
And like, no, you're right.
It's cool.
Yeah.
It's over.
Yeah.
Like the last.
That's the heartbreaking part.
Yeah.
Like, even the outro on the album, the last record, it's a record where it's like, you know, it sums up everything that she just gave you.
And then you're going to assume that, oh, she's done.
Like it's completely over for him.
But it's like in a very artistic, creative way, she leaves you with the room to think, like,
Like, oh, she's letting him know, like, listen, you're playing yourself.
And I don't want you to do that because I care about you and I love you that much.
So get your shit together and, you know, let's finish.
Let's do this.
Hate when women are really good at, like, male psychology manipulation tactics.
Yeah, yeah.
I hate when they figure our shit out and then start using it against us.
Oh, man.
It's amazing.
It's cool.
It's cool.
No, get yourself together.
I want better for you.
I want better for you.
I'm disappointed in you.
I'm punching a hole in the wall.
Yeah, like a woman telling you she's disappointed in you.
It's like, you start to analyze yourself like, wait, I don't want to be a disappointment.
And then, I could be a piece of shit.
But then the manipulation really kicks in because then it's like, she's like,
no, I really just thought more highly of you.
Yeah, exactly.
I think I expected more than what you expected yourself.
Exactly.
When they hit you with all that.
I thought you had more integrity.
Yeah.
I thought that's what you like.
Yeah.
Like, actually.
Those type of women.
And it's like, damn, am I into those type of women?
I thought I was with a real man.
Yeah.
I thought I had a real one by my side.
I am throwing shit around the crib at that point.
No, that's exactly what this album is.
Run around like Pinocchio.
I'm a real boy.
I'm a real boy.
I'm a boy.
You're wrong.
You're wrong.
Listen, first of all, don't ever talk to me in that octave again.
Is that in that?
Pinocchio sounded?
I don't care how Pinocchio sounds.
Just don't ever speak to me in that octave.
I can't make noise at concerts.
I can't impersonate.
Pinocchio?
No.
What can I do here?
No, just be Rory.
I can do nothing here.
Just talking a strong Irish accent, please, before you do that shit again.
But yeah, man, she has a phenomenal album on the way.
Holy shit.
And I'm not talking about London or Summer at all.
This is off them.
I want to make that very, very clear.
I feel really bad for significant others or ex-significant others of artists that are really good at writing
and really good at delivering what they write.
Because even I agree, if you write something and it sounds amazing and it's amazing song,
that's set in stone.
She's right.
She's correct.
I don't care what the truth is.
Right, right.
And then you can't respond
because you're not an artist.
So now you've got to walk around
like telling people like,
yo,
yo,
I'm telling you that was full of shit.
That's not how I happen.
Like, yo.
And you don't even sound fly saying it.
It's like,
you know, all right, fan,
but she got the pretty melodies
and the harmonies.
Like, you did that shit.
Yeah.
It's no coming back from that.
But yeah, she,
it's going to be a lot of people
looking at London some type of way after this.
She's not holding anything back.
I mean,
it's not, but it's, you know, it is what it is.
And we shouldn't.
She's making music.
How do we know that she's not just drawn inspiration for something
and making an actual song?
We don't know that.
Exactly.
So that's to be determined by the listener,
but I do think that everyone will be completely satisfied with this project.
Again, I think it's one of the, some of the best R&B I've heard,
definitely in the last 10 years.
They have the right people working with her, the right feature,
all of the features make sense.
And again, it's just the music, the production,
and it's, you know, the content, the lyrics.
It's just an amazing project.
I think that everybody's going to be really, really happy with this album.
Do you prefer when you listen to a song that you know who they're talking about or not at all?
I don't particularly care if I know who they're talking about, but it just adds a little more to it when you do know who they're talking about.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, okay, you start to paint things together and paint the picture.
Like, oh, this is when that happened and this is, oh, this is what they were talking about.
And this was the moment that that happened.
So yeah, I don't really care to know.
You know, I just, if it's relatable content, I think that's what matters the most.
It doesn't have to, I don't have to know who it's about as long as I can relate and it's something that I, you know, connect to.
Because sometimes I feel like, well, not with like the really good writers, but I feel like sometimes that kind of puts a time stamp or like a moment in time, if you will, of that record.
Because it's the moment that we know they broke up or was going through some shit.
Like, what's the party record that I love?
Savage Anthem
What's it called?
Savage Anthem
The party next door?
Yeah, I love that record.
That shit is fire, but it is kind of like
If I go back and listen to it now, I'm like, all right, he's talking about Keklani.
I don't care about that no more.
Because he's talking about Kailani?
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
I feel like when you don't know what it is or it's not like, oh my God,
this is a response to the X from a month ago,
it just becomes more about the music and what they're saying can become more
relatable in some degree because anyone could be saying it.
Instead of like, this is just directly at my ex.
We all know it.
I'm going to say some salacious things about it.
And even though I was one that came on here and said it was the greatest record of that year.
Right.
But I'm a prisoner of the moment sometimes.
Yeah.
So, oh yeah, this was crazy.
Great record, though.
He was for fucking crazy.
Great record.
It's fire.
Yeah, great record.
I think Kalani and I'm going to speak for her.
I apologize.
I think she was so far over this relationship that she read this back and listened to it and went, that's fire.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't she?
Like, again, you can go through something with somebody and, you know, if they're artists and they use that as inspiration to create, you know, just hopefully y'all are both in a different, you know, space with each other and respect for space with each other where it's like, you know, you hear what their feelings are and they put their feelings out to the world.
It's like, yeah, we went through that.
And I think she talked about that when this came out.
She came out and said it like, yo, it was true.
We spoke about that.
We're good.
Just down to third.
So, yeah.
I mean, I just can't believe it in Fabriz the room.
Yeah, that was kind of.
Wow, right?
That's a serial killer trying to get caught.
Yeah, it's like, yo.
It is what it is.
Put me away.
Deal with it.
I'm tired of killing.
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
But it's fine.
Whatever.
Division and tie.
I'm sorry, mixtape.
They call it a mixtape, so I'll call it a mix tape.
Okay.
Even though it's available on streaming for monetization.
And it's, and it sounds as good as an album can sound.
The rules have completely changed.
Whatever an artist wants to call their work, we just have to go with it.
Like, okay, if it's a mixtape, it's a mixtape.
All right.
You know what?
I'm going to shoot artists.
some bill and obviously we have to adapt certain names and phrases to the times that we're in.
Of course, a mixtape used to be the artist didn't really profit off of it. You didn't have to
clear anything. Typically just the DJ profited off it. Now I think we could classify mixtapes
based on how much the budget was. And I'm not saying I have a number in my head of what it is,
but I feel like it's a mixtape if I really put together some work and we really don't have
much money to promote it at all or are focused on making this like our number one thing that
we're going to put all our dollars behind.
And again, I, everyone knows that we're cool with Daniel.
Daniel is not saying anything to me about how much they put in or if they cared how much
money they put in.
But the conversation I did add is like, no, we was talking with Todd.
We want to put some dope shit out together.
Right.
Like it wasn't an overthought, yo, let's get the whole roll out together, put this much money behind
marketing, this much behind a certain record.
But if this is a mixtape, this is a fucking crazy mixtape.
This project was really, really dope.
I listened to it on the flight down to Atlanta.
Really good music, man.
I mean, but you know, I mean, you got Division and Todd Dahl.
What did you expect?
And yeah, you got...
Good music has to come out of that session.
85, Jermaine Dupree.
Right.
It gets...
Once you go down that rabbit hole, it's hard to miss.
But I was happy that Division put...
tie in the type of R&B bag that I like tie in.
Like when we used to talk about the feature in Tadala sign shit,
and he was back more in that hit record poppy type of sound.
I don't be personally, just me personally.
I just like TIE as a straight R&B guy.
And he went in there.
So this is the type of Tadala,
especially in 2021 that I want to hear from.
Yeah, I think everybody kind of wants that Tidea.
They want the R&B, guitars, you know, keys,
Thai Dala where he's talking that shit.
I would love another beach house mixtape.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Me personally,
I would love another Todd Dollar Beach House mixtape.
And Daniel,
Daniel kind of tricked us, man.
And catfished us.
Did he?
And this is not because I know Daniel's not like this in real life.
I'm talking about his music.
When Division first came out,
it was like, yo, finally some amazing love R&B.
Like, this is the shit we've been missing.
Love all that.
This shit and the last one, Daniel's toxic.
Yeah, no, he is.
Daniel's like a piece of shit
For sure
Absolutely 100%.
Like you tricked me
And I think that
I think now that he knows
That's out there
It's like he can finally be himself
Like he seems more relaxed
He's not that
I've never seen it in person
He's actually
And I'm not even joking
We're great guy
He's really calm and peri
He does
I've never seen him do no
No no toxic shit to somebody
No
But he get his shit off in the studio
He's yo those first division records
And that first project
Yeah we thought it was headed another way
It's like oh this is some real love
I'm a cry for her
Right
type of love
No.
Oh, you're a piece of shit.
Listen, man.
Just give time time time.
That's all you got to do is give time, time, sometime.
Or he was so, he was even more toxic then that all that pretending to love you shit was
really the toxicity.
This is the honest guy.
Yeah, he got out of that.
This is what we needed.
Yeah, he got out of that.
He was in that moment.
And now he's like, no, like, you know, like, I'm really with the shit.
But I mean, it makes for great music.
So I don't, listen, man, I'll take it.
It's a great, great mixtape.
If you haven't heard it, I mean, I don't know what you're listening to.
The word.
This division and Todd Dollar mixtape.
was really dope.
That's what I was on repeat all weekend.
Cleo Soul, I have not, I feel terrible coming in here saying this, but I have to be
truthful.
I've heard nothing but great things about it.
I haven't listened to it yet.
But everyone says it's amazing.
It's because I couldn't get past the tie and division record.
But this week I will listen to it, but I did want to shout it out because everyone's
been saying amazing things about it.
I love her as an artist.
I've still been listening to Tink's album.
Yeah, I got to go back.
Tink has a really good album, man.
Really, really good album.
I always liked Tink, I've always been a fan of Tink.
Yeah, I mean, I guess what, that breakfast club freestyle she did, however many years ago was kind of how she popped.
And from there, yeah, she's always made solid music.
I know she was going through certain things with the Timberlin stuff.
It became kind of difficult for her to put music out, which can be frustrating and really hinder progress.
But everything she puts out sounds great.
Yeah, no, they did a great job.
She got with Berg.
I think he produced most of it, if not all of it.
But yeah, man, great, great project.
I was really happy with the Tink Project.
Good to see her back, putting out music, sounding good.
The record with her in Kodak Black is crazy.
That's my shit right now.
Okay.
I'm listening to that a lot.
And I'm not being, if this comes off ignorant, I apologize.
Is he out of jail?
What's this situation?
I haven't paid attention over.
No, he's, I hope he's still free.
Okay.
I pardoned him.
I haven't.
I hope he didn't do nothing crazy to get locked up again.
But, you know, I didn't know if that was true or that was just part of that
Trump pardoned bullshit.
I saw everyone on earth was pardoned that day.
and they're all still in jail.
No, no, no.
Kodak is home.
He's home.
Okay.
Yeah, he's home.
All right.
I'll have to go back to the Tink album.
Now, do we want to talk about, uh,
Drake and Yee still?
Um,
still doing the double Dutch?
Yeah, we have to, man.
It's getting,
it's getting interesting.
I'm hearing things that I won't talk about,
but I'm hearing things, man.
It's just like, it's just,
I don't know what the fuck is going on,
but, you know,
I'm just,
I'm just hoping,
hoping that great albums and great music are on the way.
But it's getting a little, it's getting spicy, man.
I think everything changed this week.
Fuck all.
Betrayal record, cool.
Yeah, he does nothing from me.
The address thing, the posting screenshots, a group.
That means absolutely nothing to me in how this has changed.
This has been their back and forth game forever.
I don't really have an opinion on it.
I don't care.
If y'all want to continue to do it, that's your prerogative.
I also have the ability not to care about it.
Right.
I'll just wait for the album.
Whenever you guys are ready.
Whatever y'all are doing cool.
I don't care.
Just let you know when it's on the DSPs.
Everything changed.
New face card came into the deck.
Yeah.
Kendrick.
This just changed everything.
But I don't think, see, I don't think it changed anything.
Because, again, if let's just say in a whatever,
let's say Drake, Kendrick and Kanye dropped.
the same day.
That'd be crazy.
It's like it doesn't,
I don't think any of them are
affected in a negative way by that.
It puts,
it makes that rivalry.
One of them won't have the number one album that week.
Two of them won't.
Two of them won't, yeah.
So it's like, I mean, but who cares?
No, that drastically changes.
Like, album sales, we kind of,
we forget about relatively quickly.
We go, we care.
Yeah, like, we don't give a fuck about that.
I honestly would, I'd have to really research
the years that
Drake and Kendrick
both dropped albums
at the same time
of who sold more than who
I would really have to look it up
I wouldn't
it wouldn't see in my head at all
I also don't remember
what the album sales were
when 50 and yay
went up against each other
but I do remember who won
right yeah
I do remember who won
I get it
so with this you're going against
three people
I love Curtis
but graduation was obviously
the better album
but with this
yeah it's gonna be in our face
fuck with the numbers
of the sales
are, it's like the election with Biden and Trump. It was the most anyone had ever voted in history.
Trump was the second most votes in the country's history and he lost. That's not going to matter.
Who won? And these are three people that have been number one their entire careers. And you put the three of them together. Someone's going to come in third place?
Well, this, again, they're not going to do that. They're just not. Yeah, but it's, again, their management should advise against them doing it.
No, I get it.
And I know that they're trying not to.
But what I'm saying is, it doesn't matter to me as a consumer because or to most consumers
because we're going to listen to it no matter when it drops.
We're going to stream it.
We're going to download it, whatever.
And it's all about who has the better product.
Yeah.
Not who has the better product, the release week.
Who has the better product period on this album?
Who had the better album?
I think that sounds good to the type of fan base that you and I are.
with these three gentlemen,
well, actually I don't really think Kendrick particularly cares,
but with how big their audiences are
and the things people focus on now,
that means a lot as far as your perception as an artist,
the fans that wouldn't rush to the album,
which ends up being a lot when you're this type of artist,
it matters.
These days, that's all the headlines are going to be.
It's not going to be about the music,
so you have to focus on it.
It sucks that they have to focus on it.
I think it sucks.
I don't care.
Right.
But as businessmen, because all three of these guys are businessmen,
absolutely.
They have to focus on what matters perception-wise.
And that's all the headlines are going to be.
There's going to be no headline that says the third track on Drake's record is good.
The fifth one on Kendrick is good.
No one's going to say, yo, this one got number one, this one got number two, this one got number three.
Well, I mean, if we're being honest, in which I think we are, I mean, you know, people can call us whatever they want.
Daywalkers.
Yeah.
Drake is going to
This is this is nothing but an ego flex to Drake
Because if Drake doesn't have any
Hints or whispers of him putting out an album
Kanye album comes out already
Yeah you understand what I'm saying like the album is already out
We would have it
And this is just showing that
Drake things don't move until people know what he's doing
And see what he's doing and when he's dropping
And so it's like he is
he is the most streamed artist.
I think everyone but Kendrick, actually I take that back.
I'm sure Kendrick thinks when is Drake going to come?
He probably does.
No, the entire industry.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
I would say Kendrick would be the exception.
But it's like, it doesn't matter when he's dropped.
He's going to stream more than anybody.
You understand what I'm saying?
Well, I agree with you.
I get it why you wouldn't want to drop the same day as him.
But it's like, no matter when you drop, he's still going to stream more than you.
And people are going to have his, his,
captions more than your songs and it just is what it is at this point you just the the the bottom
line is I think artists which these artists already do is this put your best music out put your best
content out and you know just let the numbers fall where they're going to fall but nobody's
going to stream more than Drake we know that the positive out of out of this circumstance could be
and I know you I know the podcast fans hate positivity but I'm going to bring some positivity into the
mix what I think would be so great about the three of them dropping on the same day or within the
same week, two weeks, three weeks,
and says something about this
specific generation.
I'm not knocking the generation now. I'm just saying this
generation, and I'm biased because I come
from it. All three of these albums are going to sound completely
different from each other. Absolutely.
If you could put three of the biggest artists
from the generation now,
and y'all could kill me for this because I'm doing this without research
and I could look back and be like, wow, is a really dumb thing
to say, Rory? I don't think you're going to get three artists that would
sound so drastically different in putting out an album out
at the same time
At the same day, yeah
That's what I'm saying
This is dope to me
Like I don't
These are three totally different artists
We've heard the Kanye album
Well what we think is gonna be on the album
We heard what that sounds like
I think that's gonna change
Oh of course it's gonna change
Completely it's changed since the last fucking
You heard the Mercedes Benz
You didn't heard the State Farm yet
Exactly exactly
Like his shit
His shit is gonna change
The number one insurance company version
Exactly man
So that's why I'm just like
You know it is what it is
Like we're gonna stream all of these projects
But we all of these projects
but we all know that Drake's album is going to stream more
than Kendrick and Kanye's album.
We know that.
It just is what it is.
Well, it looks like Kendrick is coming with a single.
Mm-hmm.
Because after he posted, which we will get to,
as far as what he posted with TD and all that,
but before we get there,
I want to finish up with the Drake, Yane, Kendrick trio.
He teased a single in a video.
Mm-hmm.
Looked like it's featuring Baby Keene,
who I love.
I haven't seen Drake orier even allude to a single coming before the album.
Now, they're hearing this on Friday.
I think Drake may drop something tomorrow.
I don't think it's an album.
I think something's coming tomorrow.
I don't know because Drake has given us so much music already.
Like he's giving us the dream with Dirk that we know what was going to be his, you know.
That was his next God's plan.
But do you think anything mattered?
Like we're living, not to say it's not a post-pandemic,
but post-quarantine the way we were.
I don't think anything matters now.
As far as what?
Anything that happened during quarantine,
I think it means nothing.
It's a clean fucking slate.
As of right now,
the only thing Drake has dropped
is his verse on the trippy red betrayal shit to me.
Yeah, but they don't,
these guys don't need a single.
Of course not.
They can just put an album out.
People are going to stream it.
The numbers are going to be what they're going to be.
That'll change the streams, though.
And now if you're planning on going against
two other A-list, A-list top of the fucking list artists,
you may want to get ahead of it and get a fucking single out there
if you want to get your streaming numbers correct.
Again.
When Kendrick put out that video of teasing the single with Baby Kim,
I was like, all right, if Kendrick gets ahead with a single,
those streaming numbers might look different.
Listen, man, I get it, but we just know what this is, man.
We don't even have to talk about this.
We know that Drake is going to stream more.
than Kendrick and Kanye.
Kendrick has outsold Drake in years before.
Again, I'd have to research it.
I don't even know if that.
Isn't he the most streamed artists of all time?
Of course, because well, his output of music is far greater than Kendricks.
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's just, listen, man, it doesn't matter.
Like you said, these three projects are not going to sound anything alike.
It's going to be great for the consumers, great for the fans, that we're going to have music and shit to pull from and listen to for however long.
it's just a great time for the consumers, man.
The games are cool, too, in a weird way.
Like the little chicken mouse game, it's cool.
It brings back that feeling of release week and release week mattering and, you know, shit like that.
Like, I get it.
But it's like, all right, man, the clock is ticking.
Somebody got to drop out.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And not Kendrick because he's just pulling up to the party.
He just.
Well, I don't think he's pulling up.
I don't even think he's calling his Uber until.
I'm coming in the next few days type of shit.
Yeah, I think so too.
I don't even know if he would really do the rollout thing like that.
I mean, granted, this is a rollout.
But I think it would just be quicker.
It's going to be fun, though.
Listen, my ego would be on a thousand if I outsold Kendrick and Kanye with an album called Certified Lover Boy.
My ego would be...
Yeah.
Listen, it is what it is, man.
You could.
And of course, you know, Drake's accomplishments are out of this world.
But if I out to sell y'all with Certified Lover Boy,
there's nothing in the world you can do to me.
Zero.
Listen, again, that's why I'm just as a love of music, man, and a fan of.
Certified lover?
I don't know if I didn't get my certificate yet.
And you're a boy.
It's something crazy about a white man calling a black man.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
It was a call back to Pinocchio.
I didn't think that one through.
I didn't think it through.
It's all good.
And dude, own Pinocchio.
All right, this is bad.
Yeah.
Like it says, you know, I take it back.
I take it all back.
Listen, everything is offensive.
I apologize.
I did not think that one through.
Everything is offensive.
I take it back.
I apologize.
It's all right, man.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Well, you are a great man.
Thank you.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate that.
But, yeah, man, I'm just as a consumer.
I'm just, I just want some music.
That's it from some of my favorite artists.
Like, yeah.
The games are.
cool but just give me the music.
Belly, see you next Wednesday.
Out today.
Out.
Phenomenal.
Fonomenal.
Happy for my guys.
Finally out.
You know, he went through a lot, a lot of ups and downs personally in his life.
I'm happy to see that he pushed through and got the project done.
We know how much goes into recording and marketing and all of that shit, especially
when you don't like going outside and talking to people.
Exactly.
You know how much of a stressful process that could be.
So shout out to belly.
See you next Wednesday.
available now.
Go stream that, get that,
download that. Great music on there
to join with Nas.
Die for it. And
Nas in the weekend. I like the Requiem
record with NAV. Yeah, me too.
Me too. Me too. It was nice
to hear Nas on that type of production.
Yeah. I really liked that.
But Nas has been doing that, though. I think
Nas has settled into, he's been hearing how
people say he picks the worst beads and all that
for years. So now, you know, with hit boy
and, you know,
jumping on a lot of the more current production
and the current sound
and trying things differently,
it's been working for him.
You know what I mean?
And his fan, his core fans seem to still support it
and they love seeing this new Nause,
hearing this new Nause.
And it's just dope when Nause, you know,
links up with other bars spitters like belly.
Yeah.
Because, you know, it's like the music is a little different
but the bars are still there.
Yeah, no, it is good to actually hear,
of course, if you want to call it,
the weekend sound,
I know they all developed it together,
but hearing actual rap.
rapping on it. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. So shout out the belly. Um, see the next Wednesday available now.
I'm excited to see what his show looks like. I mean, we know he's been super particular with the visuals
and how everything has looked in this album. Like, he lit himself on fire. Yeah. That's not an effect.
Right. No, that was him. No one did that in Photoshop. Right. He lit himself on fire for a visual.
Even a video with him and Benny. We did an audio room on Facebook Wednesday night. And, um,
We spoke about that.
The video was even like a throwback type of video where it was almost how when budgets were like $2 and $3 million for videos.
It was a lot of technology, a lot of, you know, different cam work that they used in that video.
So you could tell, like, you know, he pays attention to the art of putting out his music and stuff like that.
Well, no, I'm excited.
I went to the listening.
It sounds great in the club.
It sounded great a little sister.
Okay.
So, yeah.
Shout out to Belly.
Congrats on the release.
I guess before we get out of music,
do we want to read the Kendrick,
I guess, letter to the fans?
You're better at reading out loud than me.
All right, let's do it.
All right, so Kendrick says,
I spend most of my days with fleeting thoughts,
writing, listening, and collecting old beach cruisers.
Listen, Kendrick, I get it.
Listen, I'm with it.
I get it.
Just to not hear from someone for so many years
and be like, yo,
You've just been
Yeah
Listen man
Like fuck y'all
I'm on my beach
Cruising
You've been on fucking diners
Yeah
I'm going ride to the coffee shop
Get my my latte
Whatever it is I get
What's the Guy Fieri show
Dash diners and
Yeah
Kendrick got
That's why I can't get an hour
Exactly
Yeah you're in cars
I gotta live life
You gotta live life
Uh
The morning rides
Keep me on a hill of silence
I go months
Without a phone
That's actually fire
That's amazing
Love loss and grief
Have disturbed my comfort zone
But the glimmers of God
Speak through my music and family
While the world around me evolves, I reflect on what matters the most.
The life in which my words will land next.
As I produce my final TDE album, I feel joy to have been a part of such a cultural imprint after 17 years.
The struggles, the success, and most importantly, the brotherhood.
May the most high continue to use Top Dog as a vessel for candid creators, as I continue to pursue my life's calling.
There's beauty and completion and always faith in the unknown.
Thank you for keeping me in your prayers.
No, thank you for keeping me
your thoughts.
I've prayed for you all.
See you soon.
Yeah, I didn't know how to pronounce that.
Oak Lama.
Which I assume is the name of the album
and maybe another personality or something
because he's signing it as if that's him.
Okay, Lama.
Oak Lama, okay.
Can you go quickly right back to the message
to the top?
Maybe I looked into this a little too deep.
but as far as the height of his career
to then start this rollout with love,
lost grief,
have disturbed my comfort zone,
talking about being on a hill of silence.
I'm in no way going to say Kendrick has never been
super personal or introspective,
but I think he's been super personal
about his environment and the people around him.
You'll get glimpse of it on records like feel
and other stuff.
I'm not saying he hasn't been someone
that hasn't been
introspective.
But this feels like he's finally
really going to get into him
and what he's been going through.
Because Good Kid Mad City,
we got that beautiful story
of his neighborhood,
which I'm sure derived
from a lot of real personal things,
but it was the story
of his neighborhood.
Pimp a Butterfly
certainly got his experience
as a black man in the United States.
Damn, we definitely caught some,
but it was more,
I just felt like a quamen out of me.
It was like an,
instrumental album with amazing
fucking raps in between.
This note kind of made me feel like
he's finally going to like open up a little bit
because he's been so personal,
even down to his relationships,
his friendships, he don't talk, like,
just does music, which I love, but
I think this is going to finally be the real
get-to-know Kendrick album of who he is
as a person, not where he's been
or the type of way he grew up or how he feels
on a,
I want to say political, but a conscious level to that degree.
I fuck with Kendrick, man.
I like everything about Kendrick.
I like his thought process.
I like shit he stands for, you know, morals.
You could just tell the type of man that he is.
So, you know, reading this, I understand.
You know what I mean?
And he's just entering a different realm and a different space in his life.
And, you know, he's being very conscious of what he says
and what he puts out to the world as an artist.
And he doesn't want to be misunderstood.
He doesn't want to say the wrong things
because it's a very sensitive time right now.
And he's always a person that speaks on the time
that we're in or the time that we're coming out of.
So I know that he wants to be very careful with this.
And sometimes you need to take those moments.
Like going, I like go months without a phone.
I wish I could do that.
But that's to me, that's just, you know,
it's letting you know that he's the people that he needs to speak to it right there.
They're within arm's reach or he can, you know,
he can talk to them whenever he wants.
And then everything else is kind of like on the hour.
outside and he's just like, you know, he's not dealing with that right now. He just wants to
live in the space that he's in and exist in the space that he's in. And, you know, when he's
ready to create and put out his words and his art, then he will. Yeah. Shout out to Kendrick, man.
You know, especially with the months without phone, that's where I really think he's going to
dive into who he is as a person. Because with somewhat like with everything that was
happening during like the George Floyd, Floyd Times and everything that was kind of felt like
every other week some crazy should happen. I remember, of course, everyone was like, this is, we need
a Kendrick album. Like we need, that would be so helpful right now. And I'm sure Kendrick was well aware
of that with or without a phone and everything that was going on. But I guess kind of getting those
distractions, and that's not a distraction, but your phone is a distraction away from you. You could really
get to know yourself. Yeah. And that's going to be a wild approach to an album in 2020. And you put your
time and your energy into the right things and the right people. Yeah. When you're not consumed by
your phone and, you know, social media and the things that, you know, seem to pull most of our time and our
energy from us.
You direct that into the things that matter the most,
which is what he sees,
seems to be to be doing.
So shout out to Kendrick, man.
What do you think about the TD Ethan?
As far as leaving the last album?
You know, I don't know too much about that.
I can only assume that creatively and business-wise,
there was some bumping of heads and things like that.
And, you know, it could be too.
You know, Kendrick is just, again, he's evolving into a different person.
and, you know, he wants to do his own thing
and have his own control of what he's doing
and stuff like that, which is normal, you know,
for artists to do when they reach a certain level.
So, you know, I don't think that it's any beef or, you know, anything like that.
I think these are all gentlemen that respect each other on a different level
and have real love for each other on a different level
and understanding at the same time.
So I think, you know, again, this is just an artist moving into a different space
creatively and wanting to control things in a different way
without affecting anybody else that may be under that umbrella.
Because that happens too.
Oh, for sure.
I mean, I think people always automatically assume like sometimes shit didn't get bad.
It just got over.
Yeah.
Like sometimes, and not to say he outgrew TDE by any means,
TDE just grew into a full label.
And when you have an artist like Kendrick and that type of mind,
it's time to go do your version of it.
Right.
Right.
Which is okay, and that's how it could be.
One of my favorite quotes was when Dame Dash was on Combat Jack's show, rest of peace, for the first time.
And they asked him his biggest accomplishment in music.
And he said leaving.
He said leaving it and feeling completed in leaving it.
And that's kind of how I felt through this and through everyone's responses, punch response, schoolboy's response.
Like, it felt like, no, it was just, this was completed here.
Right.
It's done here.
Right.
It doesn't mean anything's wrong.
Mm-hmm.
And there could be something wrong.
But that can still complete things.
Right.
And it doesn't have to turn into an ugly thing and a public thing.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It stays in house.
This family.
And again, as an artist, you don't want to sometimes you just reach a point where you just need a fresh start to create this type of art that you're trying to create at this point of your life.
So I understand it.
You know, we've seen it before.
This is not the first time.
This is something like this has happened.
Yeah.
But again, I just hope that.
Out of this, we get great art and great music.
Yeah, no, I love to see things go this way when it comes to closing chapters.
Because these days, things to get.
Why are you guys so messy in the way you end things?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sometimes that's how shit happens, man, unfortunately.
Like, what's wrong with y'all?
Yeah, like, you don't.
Like, why can't you all just be so passive and civil and get things done?
You try to avoid it sometimes, but you can't, man.
That's just the reality of it.
Sometimes you can't.
Oh, I envy you.
you guys Td.
You know how to handle things.
I envy them as well.
Yes.
So you're in Atlanta,
so I assume you didn't go to Summer Jam.
I know.
I have not going to Summer Jam in years.
It literally rains every single year.
That it does.
This year was right on par.
Yeah, it was right on par.
It was a typhoon.
Yeah.
A typhoon.
Yeah, it was a typhoon in New York.
It sounds like a burrito in L.A.
And yeah, but,
the lineup seemed to be pretty interesting.
A lot of people showed up.
I didn't think that was going to happen.
I actually thought they were going to cancel it.
I didn't think that they were going to be able to do it.
Yeah, they canceled the festival stage, which to me was the best lineup.
And shout out to Rosenberg.
He put together a great festival stage lineup.
Even got stove god out there.
I was considering going just to go to the festival stage and then get back on that train.
The festival stage is always the stage that's like, because,
you know these are the ones that's next.
Yeah.
But it was like a specific theme as far as like when Roseberg did his album, but like, you know,
just that genre of rap.
So I was excited for that.
So that, you know, my prayers for Rosenberg's sanity because I would have been fucking
furious had that shit got canceled and I put that whole thing together.
But as far as summer jam, yeah.
I mean, I've been a lot and I probably went two or three years ago was the last time I went.
I just had fun.
It is still a fun New York City moment
I don't want people to get it fucked up
However you think about Hot 97 Summer Jam
It's still a staple of New York City
That's true
But I mean I didn't like how they put sweetie so low
On the bill
I didn't like that
That made me kind of feel the way
It was like 10 DJs and friends
But then you put sweetie below it
Yeah
I didn't even see the friends
Sweetie needs to be right at the top
She needs to be on top at all the time
You're sick
What, man
Nothing been
It's cool
Forget it
Never mind
Forget it
Never mind
Big of ice something.
Summer Jam.
The baby performed, and that was a controversy,
because every other festival has taken him off from what I've seen.
He started his set off with, like, a video of him, like, signing sneakers to fans
to show what a good person he really is.
Right.
And, you know.
And we think the baby is a good person.
I don't think he's a bad person.
He's not a bad person.
He said some things that he shouldn't have said and some misinformation.
you know that he spoke and things like that but I don't think he's a bad person now I don't think he's a bad person at all I'm not I'm not laughing at him signing a sneaker for a fan in his Rolls Royce I'm not laughing about that I'm laughing at the PR aspect of a team that would think all right yeah we we got to clean this guy's image up finally allow back on a stage yo sign some sneakers even though you're not an athlete
I get it.
I see where it's going.
In a Rose.
In a Rose Royce, yeah.
Oh, he's a man of the people, my bad.
Yeah, he loves the people.
Jokes aside, yeah, he got up on there and put a video.
Thanking Hot 97, putting their neck on the line due to how everyone else is reacting to that.
That people can learn from their mistakes.
People can get new information and realize that they did offend people.
I think I'm wording it better than he worded it.
But for the sake of the baby, I'll try to make it sound better.
which I do agree with
and I'm not the party that was offended
so in no way will I speak for it in that sense
but I do like the message of
people do deserve a chance
if they want to acknowledge exactly what they did
acknowledge why it was bad
and then actively try to change their behavior
and learn more about some shit they were ignorant about
I think those people deserve
everybody another chance
I would like that of myself
if I did something that I just,
some ignorant shit, then I wasn't aware.
So as long as you really acknowledge
that you did some shit wrong and
you know what was wrong,
not just, yo, sorry.
Right, no, you acknowledge it and you recognize
where you were wrong and where you were hurtful.
And, you know, you learn from it
and you make effective change moving forward
and people can see that that was a sincere apology.
And, you know, everybody makes mistakes.
But you don't want to make a mistake
and then laugh at the mistake
and then make joke of the mistake.
and then say, oh, yeah, make joke of people for giving you for the mistake.
It's like, all right, family, you know, what are we doing?
Then when money gets involved, it's like, yo, I had no idea.
Yeah, yeah.
When they start taking things away, you know, that's when you're sorry.
Like, no, you can't, you got to be sorry, you got to mean you're sorry,
and you got to show that you're sorry.
But, I mean, I'm not going to say I commend or anything about 1007 for keeping him on the bill.
I just thought it was interesting and do applaud that I hope they at least had that
conversation with him like, all right, well, if you're going to come, you got to start with,
I don't care if it's a video. You personally, like, last time he was on stage, you said something.
And now you're back on a stage. Right. Our logo is next to you. Right. Right. Like, what's up?
Yeah. I mean, again, I shout out to Summer Jam because, again, the baby is a star.
And if this is a summer jam and this is a stage and a bill full of stars, I mean, the baby would,
if he fits the bill. So, you know, shout out to Summer Jam for giving him an opportunity.
And just showing, then, you know, again, we don't, we don't want to be so quick to turn our
back on our culture and our people.
Like we don't want to, we don't want to be so quick to do that.
We want to show that it's okay to make a mistake as long as you apologize and you
address it and you learn from it and try to become a better person.
You know, it's okay.
But he's, well, the baby is, you know, again, I'm on record.
I'm a huge fan of his, but he's, he's walking that fine line where it's getting a little
people are starting to look at you some type of way because they're like,
ah, this dude is not, doesn't seem like he's really taking this thing seriously.
so he needs to be careful with that
because just as quick as people will put you on a pedestal
people will forget about you
and be on to the next new hot artist
that's out here so
you don't want to do that because you are talented
and you're right where you deserve to be
which is on top of a bill
performing on a huge stage so
and I think what I've started to observe
with the cancel culture thing
and again I don't want to beat a dead horse
for this cancel culture shit.
It's just been a new observation
that I've seen with it
when people get quote unquote canceled
we know they're not actually canceled,
but when cancel culture tries to come for somebody
and they make poor decisions
and their responses right away,
they're feeling a way towards the cancel culture
instead of focusing on the people that were actually offended.
Right.
So they prioritize all the people that are attacking them on the internet
and because they're human,
which I mean it's a bit hypocritical,
was usually in cancel culture, you said something about another human being, but they just
focus on the people that are attacking them rather than who they attacked.
Like, yes, cancel culture is wrong.
I don't agree with cancel culture, but you can't attack cancel culture instead of focusing
on the people that actually feel offended.
That's all it is.
I think that's where people go wrong and dig themselves into a deeper, deeper hole with
that shit.
Like, you're talking to the wrong people.
be talking to the people that feel really offended by the things that you said. Right. Right.
Because not, cancel culture is just not people pulling shit out of thin air. Someone was probably
really offended. Yeah, no. And then cancel culture grabbed it and said, all right, finally, we have
someone to attack. Right. But you got to not focus. You're keeping cancel culture going by only
focusing on them. Right. If I say something about the LBGTQ community and they're offended by it,
I should be focusing on why they're offended rather than all the people in that community or outside
of that community trying to cancel me.
Right, right.
What'll I do wrong?
Okay.
Have a conversation.
Let's talk about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's contradictory to just focus on cancel culture when you're being canceled, I guess.
Well, it's always easier, it's easier to cancel somebody than it is to have a discussion,
have a conversation and see what somebody was wrong or misinformed and, you know, try to help somebody.
It's easier to just forget about somebody and say, oh, we're not supporting this person
or we're not, you know, paying this person in your mind anymore.
we're not, you know, no longer supporting their career, whatever.
Like, it's easier to do that than to say, hey, listen, you were wrong for that.
People were hurt.
And this is why they were hurt.
And this is where you were wrong.
And this is the misinformation that you put out there.
And this is, you know, it's like we're so quick to just want to just cancel each other,
move on to the next thing.
And it's something, that's wrong.
We need to move away from that.
I'm not saying that some people don't deserve to be canceled and things like that.
But we have to be very careful with just throwing out.
everybody that makes a mistake under this cancel umbrella because that's that's wrong.
To me, that's not right.
Yeah, we're throwing the same sentence on murder as we are in shoplifting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just like, no, we need to teach people.
You probably shouldn't steal that.
Exactly.
Because it's going to happen again.
Somebody else is going to do this.
And this is why we need to make sure that we put this out there and we show people like,
no, that was wrong.
And just move forward.
But yeah, the baby has to be very careful, though.
Very careful.
Because he has an opportunity.
He still has an opportunity.
People still love him.
He's still, he's still the baby.
Yeah, people still love him and people still support him, but he has to be careful, though.
Well, do you want to offend anyone about festivals?
You know what I was thinking over the last two weeks?
And I was really careful about how I wanted to word this.
We're about to contradict everything that we're saying.
Yeah, because I, let me be clear.
I'm not trying to offend anyone.
I'm just looking for information and I'm looking for answers and help and understanding.
Something that I've just observed the last three years.
Okay.
With these festivals.
The sign language people that are at, that are on the side of these stages at these festivals when they're using sign language to interpret what the artists or the people on stage are saying to the audience, right?
Okay.
Let's go demol.
No, you know, I'm just trying to.
I'm looking, no, I'm just looking.
It's a safe place.
I'm fucking with you.
I'm looking for understanding.
I'm asking a question.
Why do they have these.
sign language people.
Is that what they call themselves?
Because I don't want to offend them.
I believe so.
Is that the correct term for them?
Is it sign language interpreter?
Sign language interpreter.
Yes.
Whatever that sign language interpreter.
Okay.
They have these sign language interpreters on stage at these festivals.
And I'm just trying to understand because the people who may need the sign language
interpreter that are in the audience.
they don't have a sign language interpreter when they're downloading the music or they're listening to the music.
So if they're hearing impaired, they can't hear the music.
So do they only hear the music or read the music, read the hands when they get to the festival?
And now they know that the record is hot?
Like once they get there, like, oh, that's what, this is, this is dope.
Like, once they see the signs?
No.
from what I understand,
deaf people love music
because music has vibrations
and you can feel certain things
on certain records.
Okay.
So now, I don't know,
there could be a site where if I buy an album
and if not steal this idea
to the deaf community
where when you buy the album,
it does come with like someone
that has already done sign language.
Like the way they'll put lyrics now
on streaming service,
it would be dope if they film someone
doing all the sign language shit
when you got out.
album. But I would say to your point, I think it's fucked up that they don't put like just a deaf
side stage ticket. I think it's nuts for them having this, these interpreters here when,
like look at this sign language interpreter. We don't know if the deaf person can afford the front row
ticket. It's not like they keep the sign language interpreter on the screen the whole time.
I think they do. I think they have a screen on the side. I've never seen it. Yeah, they have a
screen on the side. Okay. I've never seen it. But like look at this, this young lady, this sign language
interpreter. She's signed language in
a WAP. Yes. Which is
wet-ass pussy for those who don't know.
And she's very animated.
She seems like she has all of the
language down. She's very fluent in this language.
And I just want to know if the hearing impaired
community didn't know
these lyrics until they got to the festival
and saw the sign language. I'm sure
there's probably outlets that they
have already for it.
I think
it's just alarm. It might
myself the first time when we were on tour
we did the Roots Picnic. Yes.
And that was the first time that we had
ever seen a sign language interpreter at a
festival or at a show. Definitely
at one of our shows. And because
we were so immature about it.
We had a great time with the sign. Naturally.
Yeah. We changed our entire live
show to just try to make the
sign language interpreter do
crazy things.
Yeah. Which is what I saw
in this WAP video. Do you think they invented
new signs like with certain rap
lyrics? I think that you would have to like create new gestures and uh...
Because this with language, because sign language is language. Language changes. Language changes.
Slang changes. Yeah. Different words and you kind of have to, I just don't think the people that
created sign language were running down to like what, all right, so what's wet ass pussy
going to be? Like, I want to feel it with that little dangly thing in the back of my throat. I just
don't think that was at the top of like, like Helen Keller's like teachings. Well, this sign language
interpreter for WAP, she did an amazing job. Like, I, like, I.
I knew what she was saying.
She went crazy.
And I had the volume all the way off.
And I knew what part of the song that was just by her signs.
Okay.
But I was just wondering because I'm like, well, if the hearing impaired, you know, they can't hear the record.
Well, you know, again, I'm looking for information.
I don't know.
I'm asking.
This is a safe place, right?
Absolutely.
The door is locked.
It's actually not.
When watching, is it bad?
I know this is for a good reason that they do the sign language interpreters.
but is it bad that while this sign language interpreter was interpreting the lyrics to wet ass pussy
that I got turned on a little bit.
Are you asking me, is that weird?
Yes.
My answer is yes.
That is weird.
My dick moved a little bit at least.
That's weird.
And don't ever tell me what your dick was doing.
Look at the gestures she's making.
This is what I'm trying to tell you.
So now did the hearing impaired get there and was like, oh my God, this record is crazy.
I certainly did, so I'm sure they did.
Yeah, so I just, you know, I just a question.
I've been observing this for the past three years and I'm like, well, if this person is there for the hearing impaired,
how does the hearing impaired know?
But like she got so into it about like the dick, like, come on, that doesn't turn you on a little bit.
Yeah, and I don't think that the tongue out while she's doing that.
I don't think that that, I think she freest out.
She ad lib right here.
No, I don't think that was.
She's a performer.
Yeah.
She's great at her craft.
Yeah.
But, yeah, she, the tongue out with the, uh, uh, uh, like that.
Fuck y'all.
You know what?
Fuck y'all.
You know what?
Fuck y'all are weird.
I'm not weird here.
I think it's okay I got turned on by the sign language interpreter.
Fuck y'all.
I'm rewatching it now and turned on.
I mean, listen, that's your thing.
That's your thing.
I just was, my question was a little deeper.
I just wanted to know.
A woman doing this with rhythm turns me on, mall.
I'm sorry.
Oh, no, no.
Listen, I've been there.
I've been there.
I've been to plenty of strip clubs where they did that move.
And I was like, well, where's the cash cage?
Because I need more.
I need more change now.
I need more change.
Like this woman is great at what she's doing.
They still have the cash case?
I would assume it's some place in the strip club where you could get cash from, singles, right?
I just don't think it's in the open anymore.
But no, I don't, you know what?
I don't feel weird.
And fuck y'all for trying to make me feel weird about it.
No, I'm not trying to make you feel weird.
Does she have an Instagram?
I'm pretty sure she does.
I don't know it.
I don't have it on hand for you, but I'm pretty sure she does.
I'm pretty sure we can find it for you by the end of the day.
Oh, God.
Look, Edith.
You're just a perv like me too.
How you found her YouTube page right away?
They didn't even say her name.
Look how many views she has, though.
She's about to have another one.
She's about to have $2 million and one.
Maybe five if I double back.
Oh, man.
Y'all are sick, bro.
This, wow, this just unlocked a whole realm of my brain that could go crazy.
So this is what you'd be home doing.
I mean, learning new ways to be turned on?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's what you should do in your life.
I'm not mad at that.
I'm not mad at that.
I'd always find new ways to continue on, especially with aging and,
things that you're able to do
and not do physically anymore.
Yeah.
You got to find new ways
to get turned on.
Yeah, you're right.
Find a new way to start the engine.
I get it.
Yeah.
And if, you know,
if maybe instead of taking a pill,
I need to watch a sign language interpreter
do Wop before I get busy.
She just did the double hand
to be jerky.
She did the pepper grinder
and I'm not supposed to be turned on?
Hold on.
I'm not, I don't speak sign language,
but I'm almost sure that that's not.
Listen.
That was an adlet.
Some, some languages,
to some degree.
Yes.
Everybody knows what the pepper grinder is.
Yes.
This is the pepper grinder.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So if she does that.
They don't teach that in sign school.
They don't teach that in sign.
Like that was ad lib.
I know ad lib.
When I see one.
That was the adlet.
She freest out.
She put that in there just to give it more emphasis.
But yeah, I was just wondering, man.
I didn't mean to go down this long of a talk about it.
I was just wondering like, like, why are they there?
You got to think in sign language class.
Because you know we like from.
middle school to high school.
You learn new things about the English language
all the way through.
Yeah, every day.
School.
And then you bring in certain things
from your neighborhood
or your inflections
or certain things around.
And then your English teacher is like
that's not proper English.
You can't talk that way.
Right.
Imagine coming into sign language class
and you throw up the pepper grinder
to your teacher.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, no, no, no, I did this already.
I know this is the thing.
Everybody knows what that is.
That's only one thing you can be doing.
If you don't have any Fusili or any fucking rigatoni on your plate.
This one to this.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like that's not, they're not teaching that.
That's an adlet.
No, that's that little dangly thing in the back of her throat.
Look at the dangly thing though.
This is, this means dangly thing.
Really?
Edding, if you could pick this up.
That's the dangly thing.
That's what she just did.
And then she puts it back in her throat.
Yeah, this is the dangly thing.
You could probably.
And I feel like with sign language,
you kind of leave, there is no mystery at that point.
Because, you know, we think when we meet a woman, it crosses your mind.
Like, I wonder our headgame is.
With the sign language interpreter, I think I already know how she give it up.
Well, we kind of all speak a little sign language to an extent.
Because we've all, like, hand gestured to a woman at some point, like, in a noisy room.
You know, he was like, yeah, like, ready to go.
Give him a little head nod.
But now with this, this is a tutorial.
I'm going to learn some of these things and just, you know, something.
signs and just and just let it let it happen and you know whenever it needs to happen now like once
i do the dangly thing sign to a young lady what if she only let you hit the dangly thing once
that's another thing man that that that hurts that hurts the ego like when you only when a woman only
let you have sex with her one time it's crushing and never again i'm in my head there are very few
things that bruises and kills a man's ego more than when a woman only allows you to have sex with her
one time. I'm still in my head to this day about things from 07. Yeah, you start wondering with like,
damn, I'm trash. Like, it was whack. And then you start making excuses for yourself too. Like,
I mean, she's probably busy. She's probably like in the new relationship. She's been busy for the
last 10 years. She's just not, it was just a one time thing, fan. But that, now you're at home
questioning everything about yourself. And then I start thinking like, well, if I lived in Miami,
I'm sure it would be more. No. But then I go to Miami and be like, yo. No, you don't even see her.
don't even link up nothing.
Yeah, that's actually, that's a ego kill, bro.
That's much, that's much higher on the list.
I don't think women realize how much that does fuck with our ego and has our thoughts
trailing at night.
Like the way women would be like, my relationship, I can't sleep at night because my
thoughts are going everywhere.
With us, it's like, you know, she really like, just let me be.
One time.
Once.
One time.
And if she go crazy too in the one time, then it's really fucking me up.
No, that's when it fucks you when it was great, like when the sex was great.
It was like, we only had sex one time, but it was great.
Like everything about it was great.
She smelled great.
She looked great.
It was sexy.
Everything was just amazing.
And then she never gives you the opportunity to have sex with her again.
Because then now you can't, it's like you can't ask for sex.
Of course not.
Right?
Like you can't be like, yo, like you.
Especially to the girl that let you hit it once.
You.
You like you.
You like you.
You like it.
You.
You like you.
You like.
If I hit a few times, there's certain things I can step up in request, uh, how I
talk to you on the phone or via text.
That one time, there's only a line I can really cross without playing myself.
Yeah, you can't, yeah.
Then you go to her house and you think you stay in.
And she's like, yo, like, no, I'm about to go to sleep.
And you're looking at hell like, yo, we just had sex in that bed last month.
Like, she's like, nah, like, I'm going to see if I got to get up early.
The old price is not the new price.
It's not.
The old sex is not the new sex.
It's just not.
Like, you just, and that kills a man's ego because you don't, she won't tell you why.
And you can't ask her why y'all not having sex again.
Like, you just can't.
I've had a woman tell me before
And I wasn't pissed that we only
Fucked once
Because I kind of agreed with her
But then later on
It did bother me
She's like we just didn't really have sexual chemistry like that
And then I was like
Wait is this your way of telling me
The shit was trash
In a really nice way
Because you respect me
We don't have sexual chemistry
And we only fuck once
And that's when you gotta pull up
Your chemistry report card
Like I'm like you listen
I'm great at chemistry
Like I don't know
What the fuck you talking about
Like look at all of my past grades
Like I was the top chemist
In the school
Neutrons
I know all those.
Yeah, like I was the head of...
Periodical chart.
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, your sexual chemistry is all.
I know what my chemistry is on.
I know what a bleaker is.
Yeah.
I know it's not just the street.
Exactly.
Like, are you kidding me?
Like, my chemistry is on.
We don't have sex.
No, you don't have sexual chemistry.
Well, then, no.
What broke my ego down even more as the days passed, I was like, well, I'm not worth
a second attempt at chemistry?
Like, what if something happened that day?
Yeah, like, you got to give me another shot.
It's kind of like if we in a, if we, if we, if we play in a sport and, like,
like, oh, we hoop and we're playing ball, and I make a crazy shot.
You know in the hood, they're like, yo, make it again.
Because you got to know if it was a fluke and that.
So if we have sex and whether it's good or it's bad, you almost got to kind of sort of let
me get another attempt.
Yeah.
That's just law.
I don't know who's law it is, but it's just law.
It's like.
No, I think it's in the Bible somewhere.
Yeah, we have to.
You have to, first of all, in a pack of condoms, there's three condoms.
You have to let me go through all three of those condoms before you can effectively determine
if our chemistry.
is good or not.
That's a law.
I feel like that's somewhere in the law
and we need to stand by that.
We're allowed three attempts.
We are allowed three attempts.
At least two and a half
if the first one counted it's a half.
Yeah.
They don't sell one condom.
It's three.
And why are women with the buffet
of I have good pussy?
Yeah, I know it quick because it's good
and then you got really excited
and now you're to blame for it
and now you're putting back on me.
We need to address that
because it's not always that the pussy is good.
I have come quick and bad pussy before.
Yeah, it's not always that.
I want to make that very clear to everyone.
Let me assure you.
It's been time.
We've been encouraging you.
Yeah, it's been times where before we linked up that night, early in the day, I was shaking
the snake a little bit.
I didn't finish.
I was a little excited.
Things happened.
Put some glue in the gun.
Yeah, it is.
And then I get to you that night and it's like, listen, this thing was already happening
before you.
Yeah.
It was already at the end.
Yeah, yeah.
This has nothing to do with you.
Like, mind your business.
This is me still doing me.
This trigger is sensitive.
Yeah.
But they women were like, oh, that I must, that pussy.
No, it's not you.
It's not you.
It's not you.
It was me.
And I was a little excited.
and, you know, the second round may be you,
but the first round had nothing to do with you.
Like, when women say that,
as a kid, I used to rub my dick on a pillow to come.
You think I can't come in shitty pussy?
Bro, listen.
Like, when I was a kid, I rubbed my dick on everything.
Like surfaces that kind of hurt sometimes.
I know how to nut all the time.
You didn't know.
You was figuring it out.
I would just roll the side of the couch.
I just rubbed my dick.
Like, all right, man, that's not for me.
That cow.
Move on in the next.
home appliance.
I don't like that couch.
That couch ain't for me.
Literally, I've adapted my dick since before I knew how to come that I could come
just off rubbing it or something.
Of course I can come off bad pussy.
Bro, first of all, women ask me all the time, what is bad pussy?
And I have the same answer.
Stink pussy.
Okay.
I mean...
This is where I may look nuts.
See, I know where the white boy is good to go.
No.
Because listen, it's just a white thing.
I'm trying to worry.
Exactly because no.
He's been,
you're on record saying
you like your pussy
to have a little smell
gives it character,
gives it personality.
Okay.
And I'm,
I still stand by that.
Yeah.
I still,
I didn't say a bad smell.
Okay.
I just don't like the no smell.
Like,
it's got to,
it's got to be something.
Okay.
Twang.
But Twang, yes.
I'm that ass.
A little seasoning.
Bro.
That's all.
Listen,
you're my guy.
Little boy on it.
If everybody hate you,
I still love you.
You're my guy.
I just want you to understand that.
If everybody
in the world hate you, I still love you, bro.
I am not judging you. I'm just saying
that's the freaky white boy in you. That's all.
So I have admitted, I think on this podcast
or in conversation with you that I have finished
through two boxes that smelled weird. I did not eat the
pussy, but I did continue on. I smelt it
and was like, whoa. Yeah. Like my eyes started
water a little bit. And I admitted that I
continued. I left out a point in that.
It did smell, but it was pretty good.
See, the thing for me...
It was wet, and I think that's what the odor was.
Ooh, you a nasty white boy.
Ooh.
But there's certain positions if you turn her in a certain way,
like her ass could, like, block the scent.
But listen, I'm going to tell you something that, you know, guys,
and we're helping the fellas out here.
It's not always the pussy.
I know I'm not alone in this.
Sometimes it'll be her butt that stink.
That's true.
It's not always...
Yeah, it's not always the vagina.
Sometimes it's the butt that stink.
It's like, oh, it got a little funny smell to it.
But I just can't.
You know, when you're a young boy, you take your war wounds.
You got to, you got to, you got to fuck through some stink pussy.
I'm not making this.
As a young boy.
I'm not making this a mall.
Of course you have to.
But as a grown man?
You got to get it when you can.
Yeah, as a grown man.
No, no, no, no, no.
You can't do that.
Have you ever, like, lived with a woman?
I'm not making a mall relationship.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
So sometimes it's day four and it's just spotty.
And she thinks it's just spotty.
Mm-hmm.
And then you bust it open a little bit more and it's not so.
spotty anymore.
Yeah, now it's just spot.
You're gonna catch a whiff.
Yeah.
It's gonna smell crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
But this is why you don't go down there when it's that time, Rory.
It was spotty, though.
It was the last day.
Even if it's spotty, stay away.
Oh, my God.
Because what is it?
Six days?
You can do something else with your life for six days.
Okay.
We've talked about it.
You don't run red lights.
Have you ever ran a yellow?
Sometimes you get a car accident, but 99.9% of the time when you go through that yellow,
you get through that yellow, you get through that shit.
The camera flash don't even have.
You don't get a ticket.
Nothing.
Yeah, but I'm not in a rush.
That's my thing.
Like, I'm not in rush.
I'm in traffic.
I'm not in a rush.
We don't need to run through this light.
I'm not in a rush.
I'll get there when I get there.
I'm that type of guy.
Like, it's just like,
don't worry about it.
We'll get there.
You want me to continue to just rub my dick on the couch instead.
No, as a grown man, I want you to stop doing that.
I want you to stop rubbing your dick on furniture.
Okay, please stop doing that.
I haven't done that since I was a kid.
But, yeah, man, I, you know, women asks, what's bad,
what's bad pussy?
What's bad?
And my answer is always, you know, if it just doesn't smell fresh, if it's, you know, because there is no, you know, we don't want, is it not wet enough?
Some women get really wet.
Some women, you know, will say you don't make her wet enough.
They put that on the man as well.
They say, oh, you don't turn me on.
It's, you know, my answer is just get some loob and we can get right past those.
Or don't fuck me if I don't turn you on.
But sometimes women will have sex with you if you don't because they, you know, you might not be turning her on in that moment.
Okay.
Y'all are together, you know, whatever.
I have turned her on before.
Yeah, no, for sure.
But I don't want to, I don't ever want to be an experiment turn on.
If I turn you on, let's try it out.
I don't ever want sympathy sex.
I don't know if I ever got it.
Like, don't give me the sex where you know that I'm just going through shit
and I'm having like a rough week.
But you're not really feeling me.
Like you're mad at me about some shit.
Don't just give me sympathy sex.
Yo, women are really pieces of shit.
I've been trying to tell you this for however many years.
I kind of just realized that.
Hold on. Maybe should I shoot them some bail because they just think of men that we always want to fuck and everything.
I've been going through things and women that I've considered friends that maybe I have slept with before that sex is on the table have come to confide me in times when I was really upset. And we ended up fucking and I didn't want to fuck.
Oh, no, that's when they jumped you off. We're not pieces of shit. Yeah, they just, they just trying to jump you off and get theirs off. Yeah, they use us. You didn't know that? Oh, my God. Oh, man, you got to come on, man. Yeah.
I've even, and granted, I'm not saying I have the most integrity, the most stand-up guy. But I feel like every.
time I've come to a woman's aide that we have had sex and do have sex, I have not tried,
attempted nothing when she's going through something crazy to fuck. I feel like that would be the
weirdest thing on earth. You give her that moment to be like, yo, let her get her shit. She's going
through something. Yeah. Now she said, hey, how I get over tragedies in death is sucking dick. I'd be
like, well, I mean, listen, we all grieve differently. We all grieve differently. Listen, grieve away.
Grieve if you must. Grieve on this. Yeah, I'll cry with you. Yeah. Use your tears as lubricant.
I'll cry with you. I don't care. I don't care.
But I remember one time a woman was mad at me that I didn't want to have sex with her.
And she assumed that I had just finished having sex with someone else before I got to her house.
What's wrong with a double header?
No, I, listen, it's nothing wrong with a double header.
But that wasn't the case.
Just shower in between.
I was just in a bad mood.
Yeah, I was in a bad mood.
I was like, you, I'm just not.
But she didn't care.
Like, she was trying to pull my hands down.
And I'm like, you know, men can't be in bad moods when women want something.
Yeah, but that has to change.
They don't care about her feelings.
Like, we don't, our mechanisms aren't the same.
If we're not in the mood, there's nothing happening.
There's no blood flowing down there.
That is true.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's no blood flowing.
Like, you're gonna, you're gonna pull out, like, popcorn shrimp if you try to, like, pull my pants down and I'm not in.
Unless you're a teenager or like in your early 20s.
Because my dick was hard when I was a teenager in really awkward situations where it shouldn't have been.
And it confused me more.
I was like, why is my dick hard right now?
You was mad
You was depressed
I was sitting there like
I should have paid attention
In this puberty movie
You know a depressed
Stiffy is hilarious
Like why am I hard right now
Like how are you depressed
And you're like you're turned on
At your depression
I mean maybe that's why I am the way I am
These days
And how dark I am
Because I could find pleasure
In being depressed
You can have sex to be depressed
You can have sex
What? I had sex
I probably had the most sex in my life
When I was the most depressed
Really?
Yeah
Not like those moments
Where I was like
Really really really
fucked up but like I was over overall depressed for a long time and that's when I was fucking
the most which I think was making me more depressed I know I realized that I don't I can I'm not even
I can't get aroused if like I have a lot of shit going on like personally business family like
I just can't I don't even think about sex like if it's a lot going on it's just like I don't
understand how people could even have sex when it's like so much crazy shit going on in
life. Like how in that, how can your brain get away from all of the shit that's going on?
I think sex is kind of the way we treat, and not say sex is a vice, but the way we treat a lot
of other vices as a distraction, a way to find some comfortability and some quick way to feel
good when you're upset.
Mm-hmm.
That's like, any time you run into like, I'm not ho-shaming, chicks that are like actually
hos.
Mm-hmm.
They're usually depressed.
They're usually moving the way they're moving because they feel.
really bad about themselves.
Men too.
And I say,
hell, I don't mean,
I don't,
that's not gender specific.
No, no, no, never.
I'm talking about hoes,
hose,
the world, whatever you identify as.
Right.
The world of hoes.
Actually,
probably more men than anyone.
A man going from
chick to chick is usually
searching for something
that's not pussy.
And they really don't feel good
about themselves.
And this is the way of trying to find
some type of validity
and some type of confidence
is me fucking a bunch of different girls
because I feel like
that's what I should be doing.
That'll make me feel doper.
Yeah.
I talk to a lot of,
you know, younger cats in my hood that I'm cool with that I try to just always check in on
to make sure they focus and staying out of trouble.
And it's just funny in having talks with them.
Like, they could be doing anything.
And somehow, some way, their date is centered around sex.
Of course.
Like, and it's just like, it's funny and talking to them because it's like, damn, like,
I remember being like that.
Like, when it was like, yo, no, I got to go here.
Got to go here.
You know, then I'm trying to link with this shorty.
You know what I'm saying?
And you're like, yo, hopefully she ain't front.
She'll come back to the crib.
And I'm just like, I promise you your day is not going to be terrible if that doesn't happen.
Listen.
But to the younger cats, if they don't link with a girl and they don't, you know what I'm saying, like have sex, their day is like, it was a waste of a day.
For the most part, men when it comes to fashion, cars, haircuts, learning how to be funny, learning how to have personality.
Yeah, we can eventually, as we get older, actually like those things.
I think you actually like to dress well.
I think you actually like Nicegar.
We only learned about all that shit
because we had pussy on our mind
and we knew pussy may work if we get those things
or learn how to dress well.
If I learn how to be funny,
if I learn how to do all this.
It was to get pussy.
Granted, we may end up going,
oh yeah, actually these clothes are dope
and I am actually interested in putting outfits together.
But it was all for pussy.
When you're a kid, your whole day is focused on
how can I get some pussy?
Well, it's the opposite too, though,
because I know for me...
It kept me in school.
It kept you wanting to go back to class?
Yes.
But that's after a certain point because originally I think it starts,
you learn how to dress because your friends in your neighborhood would snap on you if you look crazy.
Like to me, that's how it started for me.
I knew I had to put together certain shit because it was like, if I go outside and they're not feeling this outfit, my day is ruined.
Where does that derive from, though?
I don't think it derives from.
You're the period at the end of the sentence.
We got to go to the top of why that's even a thing.
Yeah, but again, I don't think it was so much about sex and girls and women.
I think it was just more so like the homies on the block just shitting on you and you have to develop tough skin.
And now you learn.
But what's the number one response to when someone snaps in your clothes when you was a kid?
I get pussy though.
Yeah, that was that was usually, that was usually.
What's the number one response?
Yeah, that was usually like after you really start having sex.
Because it all got to do with pussy.
Yeah, but that, again, that, that, that, you learn that that came with it.
Like if you dress nice, you smell good, you carry yourself a,
a certain way, women are attracted to that.
You know what I mean?
Like if you have certain type of respect, God's respect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just saying like after a while you start to learn like, oh, okay, this is what comes,
these are the perks.
Women like this.
Women like a guy that dresses nice.
God that looks good.
God that smells good.
The God that has something going on.
He's about something.
He has some type of education.
He's not dumb.
He has a brain.
You know what I mean?
Like you start to learn these things as you get older.
But it's just weird in talking to like the younger generation.
and how much energy they still put into having sex.
It's like, fam, I'm cool we're going.
Like, I'm at the age now where Target, CVS, Whole Foods,
and back in the crib to watch Cocaine Cowboys is like a great fucking night.
But that's because you was a kid and centered your life around sex in one point.
Absolutely.
That's exactly it.
Absolutely.
And unfortunately, it's the animal instinct in us to keep the population going.
Right.
And that's by theory in how long the world has been around.
is typically when people used to have kids
was around that time when you're that
fucking full of come horny teenager
that is your entire day is about trying to find some pussy.
That's still worse.
I don't care that it's 20, 21.
That's just been our mentality forever.
So when you're a kid...
And women are just as bad.
Of course.
Like, we ain't going to sit here
and just make it seem like it's the guys.
No, I can only speak
because I was just a guy that was a kid.
Yeah, yeah.
I get what you saying.
But women are, they are very horny.
Yeah.
And they'll let you know exactly our hornet.
And they'll let you know exactly our hornet.
Jesus, Christ.
It doesn't ever go away.
Yeah, you hit him with a good morning text and they were like, shut up.
Let me ride your face.
And I'm like, I am a person with feeling.
Yeah, like, I just woke up and I haven't had breakfast.
So I don't think you sit in my face is the first thing that's happening today.
But all right.
Yeah, man.
I have a quick question.
And shoot.
Hear me out throughout the entire thing.
Can I just answer one word?
Yes, you can.
I can.
All right, cool.
All right.
I think I figured out.
Oh, I have two questions.
Two parts of this.
I think I figured out the only way you're allowed to come to somebody as a man.
Oh my God.
This is going to be.
And number two, this doesn't do with my life.
Okay.
I promise.
I promise.
I promise.
I promise.
I promise.
It doesn't have to do that.
You said you figured out how you can come to a man as a man?
Yes.
Okay.
And I want to ask you, is there a cool way to do it?
Okay.
It's health related with STDs.
Am I allowed as a man to come to you as a man?
because it's regarding your health.
But because we're men and we have egos
and we know we would never come to a man as a man,
how do you go about telling another man,
hey, I know you've been dealing with this girl.
I've been dealing with this girl.
I have an STD.
Is there any cool way to say this?
I think when dealing with an STD,
you have to get right to the pain.
You know what?
let me not even say it's been confirmed.
It's just in the atmosphere.
Okay.
Yeah, I think you get right to it.
You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't cool that one out.
Because that's not a cool conversation.
That's just, there's no cool way to have that conversation.
I just don't think I could ever get myself to type to a man I didn't know's DMs.
In person, I could, because I'm an in person to, I always still stand by talking to people in real life.
If you got an issue with somebody, you talk to them in real life.
You don't do any internet games.
You don't do nothing that shit.
You just talk to them.
I feel that way when it comes to people.
conflicts across the board.
So I would feel comfortable pulling a dude aside and being like, yo, listen,
I know we've both been dealing with her.
I think something might be wrong as, man, for your safety,
you should probably get checked out and we could leave it at that.
Now, if I can't find that, man, because we may not even live in the same place,
how do I DM a stranger and say, ew?
Yeah, you don't have to bring up the STD in the DM.
And with a blue check mark.
Listen, man.
Hey, listen.
I don't make the rules.
It changes things.
It sucks that it does.
I'm a realist.
I'm with you.
But you can't bring up the STD in the DM.
You say, yo, listen, man, you know, we have a woman, a woman friend in common.
But you have to.
It's not cool.
Listen, you got to get right to the uncomfortable because it's so gross to say to another man.
It's no cool way to do that.
I'd rather leave with the STD.
But keep in mind, you're only even having this conversation.
because there might be something health-wise involved here.
Well, that's the only reason I would do it.
And it's not the cool about that conversation.
I care about strangers' health, too.
Yeah, it's nothing cool about that conversation.
So it's like you just got to have the awkward conversation.
And that situation is going to be awkward no matter what.
There is no cool way to do it.
I could never get myself to DM.
But you have to.
Yeah, we've been dealing with the same girl.
But like, I couldn't even get past that.
Or even being like, yo, hit me in my number.
I'm like, who is this?
It's no cool way to have that conversation.
We have a woman with her hand raised.
D'Maris.
Because some women, and let me not say women, let me say people,
because let's flip this.
Let's say it's the one guy and two girls.
Some people selfishly are so embarrassed by STDs
that they keep it to themselves.
And they don't share it with everybody.
So then it becomes your moral responsibility
since we're all playing this game
and we're all in this box together.
Someone has to be responsible in there, though.
No?
Doesn't someone have to be responsible in this situation?
Okay, Peter Pan in Neverland.
Let's deal with reality.
Let's deal with reality.
Not everyone does that.
And I don't know if you guys could hear.
She was saying it's everyone's responsibility to get tested often.
Which is true.
And if you have multiple partners, especially you should go around.
I know, I completely agree.
You should get STD tested twice a week if you're sexually active, especially with multiple people.
But let's talk about reality.
Let's live in the real fucking world.
I'm with you.
Whoa.
Who's...
No.
Can you hear her?
Okay.
No.
Wait, repeat exactly what you just said?
She didn't come to us when she had the STD.
Yeah, no.
She was just out here.
This is my man's now.
We're in this together.
Yeah, me and this.
Actually, like, I always thought he was a great guy.
Always thought he was a good guy.
We got a common enemy now.
Yeah.
No, again, I understand what she's saying, though, like, maybe have the conversation with the woman.
first like yo like I think something may be wrong here I'm gonna gonna go get checked I think
you should get checked too and you know so she makes some sense like have the conversation with
the woman first and then let her tell another guy that she's you know dealing with so that might be
that might be the cooler way to do it actually that might be the cool away let the woman let her do
that yeah you know because jokes aside and I want to be responsible this had nothing to do with me this
was just a topic I wanted to bring because I thought it could no but it's it's a good topic even
No, I have also said a lot of times I joke when you wear cons and all that type of shit.
I practice safe sex.
Yeah.
If I'm having unprotected sex with somebody, one, I trust them.
Two, I'm going to get tested regularly.
Yeah.
And if something has to come up, I'm going to let everyone or just that person know, hey, your health is compromised.
Because now we have the COVID exposure on the iPhones now.
If you've been exposed or they'll let you know, like, yo, you may have been exposed to COVID.
Like, so maybe we should like create an app or some type of system where, hey, you may be exposed to an STD.
Like, I was just with her last night and...
Sir, I saw that you were at the Bowery last night.
And that club is a cesspool for STD.
It's flying all around the walls in there.
Did you share a drink?
Absolutely.
I think we should do that.
We should let people know when they may have been exposed on STD.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And the thing with STDs, I know we've made so many jokes about it.
They're never going anywhere.
Of course not.
And I don't think people should be shamed or feel like bad about them.
I think that's kind of like the taboo shit about it of why people won't tell partners or multiple partners because they feel like it makes them dirty or some nasty shit.
Do SDD is everywhere.
Yeah.
They're everywhere.
So tuck that little pride in and tell all your partners if you have an SDD.
And we're protection.
Or if you're fucking multiple people wrong.
Yeah, we're protection.
Man.
I always say that that is going to that is going to help with that is going to help with 90.
percent of the problems. That's going to help. Just strap up. This is a safe environment.
We will not be HR or me-tood. It's a very safe environment. We're a fucking condom.
It's that simple, right?
I mean, again, I don't want to be a dead horse, but I have to ask you, when do you make the decision to take the condom off?
How far into a relationship do you have to be in?
It has to. You have to. How many conversations?
I have, how many dinners?
Yes.
Well, if you take me to four dinners, you unlock the raw dick.
Like, you unlock in raw cock.
Like, if a woman takes me to four dinners, oh, you're so easy.
This thing is coming off.
But I think that's, you can have all of you?
Yeah, she can have me in the most vulnerable ways.
No, but I think that if it's somebody that you, you know is like, it's just you and that person.
And it's like, we've been spending time with each other and it's just us and we've been
rocking for a while.
And, you know, even sometimes you may have that conversation of let's go get tested together.
Let's, you know what I mean?
Like, let's do that.
I know that's not a thing that most people are down with or they have done.
But I think that's cool.
If you know what I'm saying, you're really feeling somebody and you're like,
you're like, you know, listen, I want to take this condom off.
I don't want to wear protection.
Let's go get tested together.
I advise against that.
I'm getting tested together?
Tested separately at the same day, but let's get tested separately.
Why?
Because my ego is sort of fragile.
And I've been tested for STDs multiple, multiple, multiple, multiple times.
And I know the questions that the doctors ask.
I don't want to hear you answer them fucking questions.
No, you don't go at the same time.
You're not in the room together.
I'm just saying y'all go the same day.
Like, you go to your doctor or to a clinic.
Yeah, y'all go to a clinic or whatever.
And you're just like, you get tested.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just like because now everything comes back clean.
Y'all can go straight wherever you're going and just go crazy.
Agreed. That's why let's go to completely separate clinics, like maybe within the tri-state area.
I'll meet you at 7 p.m. Eastern time.
Yeah.
As soon as that test comes in, I am not sitting in that waiting room with you.
I don't want the doctor to give me a glance after she walk out.
Yeah, like, I hope you're okay.
She's not.
You know what I mean?
Something like that.
But, you know, again.
Multiple partners only came with you.
Why are you the only one here?
No, but you know, you got to have those.
awkward conversations, man. I think, again, we need to make those awkward conversations cool.
Like, let's go get tested together. If we don't want to wear a condom, like, you can't just be out.
And again, it's not, I've said this before, you don't wear a condom because you think a woman
has something. Because if I think a woman has something, I'm not having sex with her condom or not.
Like, I'm just not having sex with her. You wear a condom to protect against getting pregnant.
And STDs because, again, some people are not aware they have STDs.
Yeah, exactly. So, but you don't, like, knowingly.
that's ever had an STD probably wasn't aware until they had the STA.
Right, exactly.
But you don't knowingly have sex with somebody knowing that they have an STD and just put a condo on.
That's crazy.
I would think you're one of the more psycho people.
Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not doing that.
Let me get past this.
We got, no, strap it up.
Don't worry about it.
I'll double up on the condo.
No, no, no, no, no.
You don't do that.
But again, make those conversations, cool.
Have those conversations with each other.
Like, yo, let's go get tested together.
Like, I'm really feeling you.
I don't want to wear protection.
You know what I mean?
Like, let's get tested together.
Well, it blurs the line because we were raised in a proper way to, one, not focus on a woman's past or particularly ask about it when it's not your business.
So sometimes those lines get blurred when you have to do the let's go get tested thing together or when was your last sexual partner or are you having sex with people currently.
That's where our ego and our pride gets involved in how we was raised and how we feel like we should respect women's privacy in their past and things that have nothing to do with us.
that's the blurred line and everything.
But that's why I'm such a heavy advocate of condoms
because you can have those conversations with somebody.
Yo, are you currently sleeping with anyone?
Whatever, whatever.
And they can be lying.
Of course.
It's just like, yo, let me just keep this condom on.
And it's like because you have, it just gives you a piece of mind.
Like when you have sex, protected sex, it's like, I don't,
this person could be lying to me, but I wore a condom.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like, so that piece, because I've had unprotected sex.
and literally you be in the shower stand at your shit like,
I hope she ain't lying, man.
But also, like you'd be staring at your shit in the water like, yo, man,
I hope you're all right, man.
I hope you ain't sick.
Listen, I've, I use that Dr. Barnes' pepperment soap to this day just because I think,
just that smell.
I feel like it'll clean better.
Like, I feel like that'll get rid of any, like any bacteria on my dick.
Did you hear her?
Yes, I did it.
That strips the STD right away.
No, it does not.
The peppermint Dr. Barnes soap gets STD's away.
It's soap, bro.
It's not.
No, but if you rub really hard.
Damn.
You can rub.
If you rub really.
Don't act like you've not been in some pussy and took a crazy shower thinking.
It's the same way like when the elevator's taking forever and you keep hitting the button knowing that it's not going to do anything.
But it makes you feel better with your anxiety.
Oh yeah.
No, no.
If I have unprotected sex, the first thing I do right after is take a piss.
Well, you should do that.
Everyone, even when you have a condom on.
Yeah.
I take a piss and I take a shower or a wash up.
like thoroughly like yeah I'm one of the I'm I'm OCD so it's it's definitely that condom piece of mind
thing though back to the yellow light thing I don't I don't go 100 through the yellow light
because I'm like oh peace of mind I have airbags I did it because I want to and I got somewhere
to go but you shouldn't you shouldn't apply those rules to your that felt poetic to me
yeah but you you shouldn't apply those rules to your genitals though like those same rules don't
apply oh yeah what about my life I'm in a car going a hundred going through a red yellow
with other cars coming through.
Yeah, but if I'm dead,
AKA her other partners.
If I'm dead, I'm dead.
And they're at the red light now
and it's my time to rush through.
I got to get through before the light change
and they get a green.
Yeah, but if I'm dead, I'm dead.
But if I'm burning, it's like,
I can feel this.
You know what I mean?
It's just like...
What if you burn alive in the car?
I've burnt before.
It's really bad.
Who album came out?
Who album came out?
Who is it?
Belly.
I've seen flakes in the toilet.
I've seen flakes in the toilet.
Drake came out.
out maybe Kanye maybe
Kendrick maybe
yeah I don't know
I got some more stuff but we should save it for next week
yeah man we got time what you're doing this weekend
any plans
I'm staying away from pussy condoms
all weekend everything
that's a trash ass weekend man yellow lights
that's a trash ass weekend
what I got going on this weekend
nothing really
just chill. Hopefully this heat wave is over with
because it's hot as fuck. Yeah,
I'm trying to think, I feel like I had something to do this weekend, but I can't
remember. Oh well.
Yeah. I'll find out. That's usually how it goes. It'll be Friday night.
Like, oh, fuck, I totally said I was going to go do this.
Yeah. Well, hopefully we got some great music
that came out today.
All right. If a Drake album comes out...
I'm not going anywhere all weekend.
Well, I know. No way I'm staying away from
vagina. Yeah.
That album comes out. Yeah.
And I don't know if that's a pause, but...
It's not.
Don't worry about it.
Listen.
The same way it's sensitive times with the LBGTQ community.
The pause community is at an all-time high, too.
So I don't know where to pause.
That's what I said.
Everything's offensive now.
Don't worry about it.
We'll figure it out as we go.
Get us a Drake interview, man.
Elliot was going on...
On his page talking about...
You see, I don't always get the Drake interview.
I think it's our time.
Yeah, but I don't want to interview Drake.
I want us to go somewhere and have like
Just a wild ass conversation with Drake
Yeah
Like let's just kick it
No I don't want to ask him who his inspirations are
Yeah I don't even want to talk about
A current album or anything like that
Like I want to just
Let's just let's go to Toronto and just
Like see who has the best like
STDs
Listen man
I'm not mad at that show either
I would watch
You know what I mean but
The city that's worth getting
the SCD at. Like, we could do a list. Of which city has the best STDs? Yeah, worth getting the, you know,
the Climids. Well, Toronto's up there. That's true. Some beautiful women in Toronto. Listen, man, I wasted. I got
burnt in Newark, New Jersey. Like, look, look, but if it's anywhere you're going to get burnt,
of course, no, I should have known that. You could get burnt, killed, shot, stab, carjacked,
and not on top of that, it was on the East Orange and Newark, like, line. It was just, I was really
playing with fire. Yeah. No pun intended. Like, I just, just,
I wish I would have got like burnt, like in Dallas.
Like if you're going to burn me, like, let's at least be in like Turks.
Somewhere.
Yeah, like, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's burn me in Newark.
Like, burn me in, like, that's how low my bars.
Just don't do it in.
Oh, no, that's, I know DC is crazy.
That burn is, that burn is a little different in D.C.
Just at least let me have a fun weekend.
Yeah, I don't want to get burnt, like, in a random-ass, like, bullshit-ass city.
Let me get burnt in, like, a tropical.
like a beautiful like let it be like beautiful shit going on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like don't like don't like don't burn me.
Yeah, I don't want to be burnt around like skyscrapers and shit like that.
Like burn me around like palm trees and fucking water.
That's the type of burn.
Don't make me go to the hospital and me tell the doctor at Jersey City Medical what was going on and him know the answer without taking a test.
Like where were you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You did what?
I know what you got.
I know what you got.
And I swear to God.
He said, we see this a lot in the inner cities.
I swear on my mom.
I shouldn't swear on my mom with SDD's way.
That's bad.
No, it's burned.
We see this a lot in the inner city.
See, that's why we have to use our platform responsibly and say, wrap it up.
We're a fucking condom.
Wash your ass.
Or pretend to trust the person.
No.
We're a fucking condom.
Because you can never really trust people.
Like Drake's dad in that interlude and wear a fucking condom.
I missed that interlude.
You didn't hear that?
No.
Oh my God.
That was classic.
phone call he had with Drake?
I missed that one. Oh, my God. Is that on Certified
Loverboy? I ain't hear it. And he did the moment.
The song Heater the moment. Oh, I do remember
he did the moment. Yeah. He was like, and wear a
fucking condo with Drake.
But it was real. It was
real what he was saying. Like, yo, these girls are
a fast nigga, like, don't trust these women.
And if you're on the
shit, that's the conversation you have with Drake.
And rest and peace to Donda. I forgot
what Kanye. It was the old old Kanye
interview. Was it? Deaf
poetry or something when he was
saying he was talking to his mom and was like
whatever like he hyped it all up like it was about to be like this
crazy philosophical fucking thing
whatever you ever do
wear a condom
because these bitches is trying to steal our money
his mom's saying. That's always the listen that's always where you're going to
land on with your parents give you advice out here
oh yeah for sure you can do whatever you want you could spend your money
stupidly whatever parents know you're going to go through that
if you're successful and you're rich like their kids they know that
but the one thing they want
their kids to do it.
Use a fucking condom, man.
For sure.
That's it.
You don't want unnecessary shit in your life and being attached to somebody forever all because
of a night of lust.
Like, you don't want that.
Those nights be good though.
Girl, great nights.
But when you wake up and then, you know, three weeks later, yeah, it's like,
oh, man, you know what I mean?
So, yeah, man, we're a fucking condom.
If not, you and Shored, go to the clinic, get tested together,
and then have a wild night.
Yeah.
And, yeah, we can wrap on that.
that after school special right there.
Things we get back to next week.
Only fans back.
I mean, come on.
That was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen.
Yeah, we knew that that was.
I would love to talk to.
Can somebody from Only fans reach out again, by the way,
because they definitely reached out to us via my email.
Only fans?
Yeah, about doing content.
Not sexual stuff, but.
Oh, man, I'm talking about to say then.
Now we're really about to get into our bad.
I think I have nice feet, but.
You about to post your feet on OnlyFans?
For the right price.
Listen, I'm not going to sell my soul
I'm going to sell my feet though
Yes, no, the souls are your feet yourself
I get it
The souls are my feet
Yeah, I get it
I get it
I see where you're going with it
So we'll get into that only fan shit
I do want to talk about
What you next episode
Just what that whole conference
Zoom call was like
When they realized they fucked up
About Only fans saying
No more sexual content
Oh my God
Yeah
I want to get into
Lil Nazex Taco Bell shit
Robots are doing
parkour now. I'm gonna keep all this list
for next week. Okay.
Robots are doing parkour now.
Robots
are doing
parkour now. I'm not scared of no fucking robot.
Okay. I'm still not so. I'm still not so.
Wait, can you do parkour? No.
I can't. Be scared. But I can take the, I can take a
fucking Ford truck and run that shit over.
Oh, let up. You think he's going to let you get to the truck?
Oh yeah. Look at that shit. Look at that trot.
I know that trot.
Get the fuck out of here with that trot.
All right.
Look, he's doing the crate challenge right there.
Easy.
Listen, that trot right there, good luck catching me, bro.
Oh, no.
Okay.
Yeah, no.
Still not fast.
Elon Musk making the Tesla bot.
Wait for it.
Still not fast.
For tasks around the house.
Yeah, all right.
I mean, it is interesting to see a robot being able to do these things.
Why do you think Jeff Bezos and fucking Elon Musk keep trying to go to the moon?
Because they know what's happening?
They know what they're building?
Yeah.
Like, it got out of control?
That's their exit strategy.
Fuck these.
robots.
I think he made a
flamethrower for fun.
No, he knew what time it was.
They have oil in them
and we need fire.
I'm not scared of robots.
I'm scared of that dude
on the fucking
highway exit at three
in the morning that
just stands by the window
and won't like
leave you alone.
That's the guy I'm scared of.
Okay, wait till that guy's also a robot.
Wait till he's that guy and a robot.
Fuck those Boston dynamics.
Get the fuck out of it.
Okay.
Yo.
And like, let's give it
five years.
No, no, no.
I give, no, I give it like 20, 20 years.
And of course, the internet, we can keep all this.
Let's just get that whole, that whole clip right there.
Oh, yeah, well, in 20 years, yeah, these needs are going to really be shot.
I'll be changing my tune.
Yo, fuck Boston down there.
Yeah, yeah, my knees are shot now.
Like, in 20 years, I ain't going to be able to get away from these robots.
So, yeah, in 20 years, fuck it.
They can, they can fucking tackle me whenever they want.
Listen, man.
That's exactly what the Native American said.
Who are these Englishmen?
Oh, my God.
we just lost every sponsor.
Yo, listen, man, that's the ginger beard, man.
I'm all, man.
We'll talk to y'all next week, man.
Be safe.
Peace.
A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care which I'm saying.
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