New Rory & MAL - Season 1 | Episode 3 | "You Know Me Better Than The Things I Did"

Episode Date: July 2, 2021

Rory & Mal sit down and address the internet killing Mal over paying a girls tab while she was on a date, what is considered wasting women’s time, whether women actually tell the truth, if communication is really that difficult, whether Rory should interview a woman Mal dated (and vice versa), Tyler’s album, Daniel from DVSN calls in, RIP Mac Miller, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now they have to go to Tao. Remember when ice cream was romantic? Yeah. Got it. that you're a vegan and they have cow material on them. How do you feel about that? He did not be vegan to that pussy. Yeah.

Um, I just, I still represent that. I love animals. You know, so I'm vegan. That's why I wear their flesh instead of eating. No, this is not real. This is not real. This is, you know what I mean? But yeah, I love the animals.

But yeah, a friend of mine bought these with me. A friend. Was it a sexual friend? Um, was it a fuck buddy? Was it one of your slam pieces? Oh my God. Yo, what's up with you today, man? How are you feeling?

Listen, I got a lot of sleep last night. You know, I'm in a good move. That's what's up, man. How was your... Don't deflect. Oh, what would we be talking about? Is it a friend you've had relations with? We've had our...

We've had some moments together here. Some moments? Yeah. Okay. That's what you call them. We've had fun. They were moments, you know? You've crossed paths before.

A few times, yeah. Got you. Your energies have met and combined. Oh, absolutely. Okay. We've exchanged energy and, you know. time and so because of that energy and uh when you guys collided she bought you a thousand dollar pair of shoes um it was more so she she she heard me

talking about him and she kind of just like went on her own detail and um she just surprised me and just pulled them out the closet and was like oh shit i was what's up man and this was before after you beat was this like her way to try to warm you up a little bit no that was that That's how she got some got to me. Watch your pair of shoes. Just buying some sneakers. Some green bottoms. He's simple.

Some green bottoms. He's easy. Get him a pair of sneakers. He'll give it up. Listen, man. Listen, I mean, yeah. Sometimes sneakers will get the dick. Yeah.

No, I just, you know, I thought it was a nice, a friendly gesture on her part. It is. Yeah. She know I like sneakers and she know I want a deed, so. And ice cream. And ice cream. Well, you're not really a dairy person. I've been on tour with you.

That vegan ice cream, though. It tastes really good, too. I don't know how people would be shitting on. It's actually not. It's really easy being a vegan now. I think everything is... They're fucking heavy. Yeah, everything is vegan options.

I tagged my chef that cooks for me the other day, and a lot of people hit me up. I was like, yo, I didn't even know that you can get this type of stuff vegan. And I was like, you can... There's vegan everywhere now. Wow. Okay, so so far we have $1,000 pair of shoes. Off the fuck. And then...

Off the strength. Off the strength. for the fuck. Yeah. Then has, oh, just casually tagged my chef

for my vegan meals that no one knew about. You knew I was getting. You're changing, man. You're changing. Cut it out, man. You knew I was getting meal prep.

Shut up. You're not, you're not the St. Nick Mall I used to know. No, it's still me. It's still me. I'm just trying to be healthy

these days. You try to elevate. That's usually what people say. Absolutely. Anytime someone was doing some bullshit and then really continue to do it but did it more secretly,

I'm elevating, man. Elevating. I got to get a new space. we're doing. Everybody killed me over the week for the last episode of a clip that seemed to go viral. I still don't know why that clip went viral, but... I mean, they may have had a point. No, they didn't. They may have had a point.

How? Explain. She was clearly out with the new dude. So essentially all you're doing is paying for her to get fucked. Why does... I try to find a nice way to say it. That's the only way I could come up with it. And that's my thing, man. Like, why do guys think that he, like,

That's automatically a fuck. Yeah. Like he didn't. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. I hate to tell you. How you know. That's my friend. I think that's the part of everybody misses my homie.

This is my friend. You just said you fucked your friend and she bought you $1,000 sneakers. No, no, no, no, no. This was a different. This is like my friend. Like we went out a couple of times. We never did none sexual. I thought I made that clear.

Okay. This is a friend of mine. She's a friend, a friend. It's nothing wrong with picking up a friend's bill. Like, I don't know why people think that's crazy or corny or, that's my home. That's a friend of mine. It's like, I mean, I don't know, maybe call me misogynistic or toxic or, I mean, that's fine.

And I don't know what category it falls under. Even if that's just my friend, I will always pay for my friend's meals. I don't mind doing that at all. But she's with a dude. That's his responsibility. That's not my responsibility. I've picked up the tab with you before. What if I was with a guy?

No, that's his response. He's about to fuck. He needs to pay for that. Who cares? All right, so this is my thing. This is my thing. I don't put currency on pussy, but I do put food and beverages on it. like okay there has to be some form of exchange of hey you care about me at least feed me

yeah but my thing was so i can't let my home girl do that it wasn't he needs to prove himself yeah but it wasn't it wasn't like i was trying to like fuck up anything i don't know if i explained it but we had a talk like me and her had had a talk before about that same exact thing happening like yo if i'm out with a guy and one of my other guys like walks in the spot or he picks up the check like i would be fucking embarrassed i wouldn't know what the stuff say the dude would probably be awkward. I just thought that in that moment when she told me she was at a spot that I put her onto on a date with a guy she had just met, I was like, this is the perfect time to put her in that same awkward position. So it was more of a fun thing. She texted me,

we laughed about it. It was like, but you know, I think people just fed into it too much. Like, oh, that's corny, you clown. And it's just like for picking up a friend's check. See, now, if I would have said it, if I was a rap and said it in the verse, niggas would be jacking it. Yeah, but Drake would say that way flyer than you said it on the podcast. But yeah, I just said what happened. Like, I'm not a rapper. Like, that's what kills me about these niggas. If they favorite rappers say it,

because that's what all these dudes get their inspiration and motivation from. Their favorite rapper got to say it first. Or their favorite rapper got to wear it first. You know what I'm saying? Then it's like, oh, that's flop. I said, I'm a cornball. I'm a sim. All right, man, y'all got it.

And remember, they kill me for saying, I don't trick. They went around saying, yo, you wouldn't pay for dinners. I'm like, that's not tricking. Tricking is when you're paying for this woman's time and energy because she wouldn't give it to you otherwise. wise. Like you know she wouldn't pay you no mind if you were spending no money buying her things. That's tricking. Paying for dinner when you're out on desk. So people kill me for that and now they're killing me saying I picked up a friend of mine. But you have to understand,

I myself included being in the room. I thought this was a woman you had relations with. No, no, no. I said, we never did. I said we went out a couple of times. It was never nothing. We were friends. We're still friends to this day. Had it ever crossed your mind to be? She's very. That changes things. No, she's very attractive. But like, I don't, I might have spoke about this before. As you get older, you start to realize, like, you can't always have sex with girls that you meet or women that you meet that are beautiful because it changes things. The relationship changes. It makes things complicated. And then you're like, damn, I lost a friend. Like, this would have been a cool friend. So we came to that agreement. Like, she made it clear that

she would. Like, she was like, I definitely would fuck you. But. Now they're just going to kill you. No, no. They're just going to kill you for not fucking the pretty girl. No, no, no, no. You can't win. in this situation. I'm a grown man. I don't care about that. Like, I, but sometimes you can't because it's like, damn, I don't want to ever not be a friend with this one. I'm not. She's super cool. You know, she's smart, educated.

She got a lot going on. We got a lot of ideas together. We make some business plays with each other. You can't, sometimes it's better to just like, listen, let's not even ruin that. Let's keep that and just like, yo, the sex thing is like, no, we'll go another one. No, I've usually fucking people that are your friends or would be better office friends. makes them a liability. They go from an asset to a liability. A pretty friend is an asset in all aspects of life. A pretty educated woman.

Is an asset. The moment you fuck her, it's a liability. I'm with you there. You just got to, again, the older you get more experiences with women you have, you just start to learn like, I made this mistake before. I had sex with one of my friends that was like a really close friend. We're really cool. We've done business together.

you know what I'm saying and then we had sex and then everything changed the dynamic change shit got weird and you like it wasn't really worth it you know what I mean it's like probably not not saying the sex was bad but it's like if I was if I would have known I was gonna lose a friend I wouldn't have did that have you ever fucked a woman and nothing has changed like you guys remain friends like oh absolutely okay absolutely is that it's rare but it does happen it's rare only it's well both parties want it to be that way right nothing it's it's only again it's all about communication I think that if you're up front and honest and, you know, have those conversations, like, look, I'm not looking for anything like committed to serious, you know, having fun. We're just, you know, because if you don't have those conversations, then you have sex, and then she says, oh, well, I thought that you wanted this and I thought you wanted something more serious.

And that's where things could kind of get funny and fall apart. That's a bit of a myth, though, I feel like. What? It sounds good on paper to say, hey, I was super upfront with everything. that's the way to go. That is a bit of a myth because you can still they take the human aspect

out of that. You can't be mad at me I was honest with you. Yeah, they can. And that's what happens though. They can be mad. That's what happens.

A lot of the times even though you had that talk it's like... But after, but once you're in it, it's like, I know what I said, but you had,

like feelings had to get involved like we fucking every other night and this and the third. It's like, I understand. Like, you know what I'm saying? Things change. You can say what you want

going into it, but until you're really in. it then it's like i mean yeah i understand yeah change you know feelings got involved emotions we're seeing each other every other night going to sleep waking up next to each other you know like whatever it's like naturally feelings get a little more intense more intense than you probably anticipated they would they would be but again if you say listen you know we had you knew how i know i know i know committed i didn't want nothing too serious i know it started to go that way but again this is still what it is for me then i mean you know you're kind of in the clear it's still

doesn't make things, you know, right or make things any easier once feelings are involved, but that's all you can do. But that's what's fucked up if you're a dude that likes the boyfriend activities. Like, you could be straight up in the beginning, like, yo, not ready for a relationship. If you cool, we just fucking respectfully, we'll talk, like, no, I'm going to hit you late night type shit. You know, cool. We'll be friends and fuck. I also happen to like cuddling. I also happen to like taking people I fuck with to places that I like. Right. Like all the list of all like the pre, maybe this will be a relationship shit.

It's just things I enjoy doing. So it's difficult to even be honest. Like, yeah, I don't want a relationship. And then they're like, well, you sleep over, you cuddle. We go to breakfast. I met all your friends. You take me to the low spots. You're moving like you, my man.

And I'm like, but that's what I like to do. Yeah, I like to do that. I like my friends. Yeah, yeah. I like to hang out. And I like to hang out with you. So why can't you come? That's what I said it's difficult sometimes, man, because you can talk and say,

you're not looking for nothing. But then, you know, after a while you look up. and you're doing relationship shit. Because relationship shit is fun when you fuck with the person. Yeah, but it's, again, you can understand why a woman would feel like, damn, I thought this was something more. And that's why I'm saying. Honestly, sometimes doesn't even matter.

No, it doesn't. You're right. I agree with you on that. You can be as honest as you want, but after a while, like I said, once you're in it and you're going through it and emotions and feelings change, it's really nothing you can do, even though you had that conversation. And then you have to deal with how women have been treated in their past. so like to some women unfortunately

have been treated very poorly in relationships situationships so the moment you text back at in timely manner she's thinking you're doing boyfriend shit yeah yeah yeah it's the little things like you're treated like you might be like wait hold on right I just said how did you sleep

because I was concerned how you slept right like to them that's boyfriend's yeah but you care you're asking about like real like human decency to some women unfortunately and a men too I think there's some men that have been treated like shit in their relationship so anytime a girl like really asked them if they ate or paid for something, they're like, holy shit, this is my girl.

Right. That's what you have to deal with. So you have to understand people's past before. You got to understand. But again, like I said, it's better sometimes when you realize like this woman, our relationship is better off just being strictly like just friends. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I've never been like some dudes, they, it's like they go out with the intent like,

yo, I'm getting some pussy tonight. And you really never even, even like I've told you. people do it's all the time you know you we never know when we're getting pussy the going out to get pussy guy is really annoying yeah and it's like this is what your night consistent like this is your goal for the night you want to go get some pussy where the bitch is at where the bitch is that it's like i don't know i don't have a app with the radar they're right here like you ain't talking to nobody you're not you know what saying you're not having no type of dialogue with these women but you want to know you're with oh these bitches acting funny

how they're acting they're just standing around the spotlight like they're acting funny because they're not like taking their panties off right now? Yo, I have met that guy. That guy's been in my group of friends before. Oh, for sure. We all know. No, these are just they stuck up.

Fan, they look like they're enjoying themselves in the corner. Because they haven't said anything to the particular person that's like, oh, this shit is trash. Offer to buy a drinks. You said no. Okay. I don't see why this is going to ruin your night, fan. But that's, but again, that's a lot of the times, you know, guys, they just think that if they do something, it's pussy has to be involved. And it's like, it'd be groups of the guys that are going out to get pussy.

like who's fucking all yo right right that's another thing like who show me what party is fucking all it's 15 of you listen man we gotta have real talk as friends

and as men like you know we gotta change a lot of the things that we do and things that like just how we maneuver like I learned that from you know being around older guys and I'm giving game like you know what I'm saying like don't be thirsty fan

like act like you've been here before yeah You know what I mean? Like act like you've had relationships with women. Act like you've had like pretty women attracted to you and like you and wanting to hang out with you. Like you can't act like this is all like just some new thing. Like just have some. Be cool.

That's what it is. It's the instant gratification society where I can post this right away. Hey, what do you, hey, you stop interrupting our podcast, please. It's the instant gratification society where I can post me hanging out with women and put them on my hands. Instagram without consent or people period. They need to be a law on that. Cuomo, Trump, Biden, AOC, whoever the fuck is in charge these days. We should not be able to just film people on our IG stories without their consent,

but that's neither either either nor there. But yeah, it's all just people have never been there before unless it's been on their phone, so they want to show it off. Yeah, man, I just don't, again, I know a lot of the times I'm just going to be the odd person out because of the way I carry myself and the way I think. So that's fine. I mean, I just thought it was, it was just funny. the way that took off.

I was just like, I didn't know this was like a... Well, how much later in the evening did, and we can close this topic after, did she hit you up? As soon as, I'm assuming as soon as the waiter told her that the bill was taken care of already. Okay, and then when was the next time? That I spoke to her?

When she was, she called me when she was on her way home. And what time of the evening? Was this how much time had been in between? Oh, when they were at the restaurant, maybe. Between, not even 40 minutes, 45 minutes? I mean, could have pulled a little car move or maybe he lived close by. No.

No, no, no, no. Maybe he lived upstairs? The funny thing is, you know, because she called me, we spoke about it and she was saying how she knew within 15 minutes she was never going on a date with this dude again because he was on his phone the entire time. That could be nerves, though. Some dudes are bad at dating. Who the fuck is nervous around? You're at dinner with a girl, you, man. No, but I'm just saying.

Even more nervous. Listen, you could be nervous when you're trying to get the number you first talking. If she's at dinner, that means fam, she's feeling you. It's more pressure then. Come on, man. The likes, come on. You've been here before. You never been on a dinner date with a woman before?

Listen, I'm corny and weird, so I'm never nervous. I'll just be myself. And if she doesn't like it, then I'm fine. That's all you have to be. Do you just be nervous on dates all the time, especially if it's a girl they really like, especially if they got the number. Now the pressure's fucking on. Now it's no more like little cute jokes to get the number.

Now you have to have a real conversation. The thing is, the thing is, now you have to show real personality. Exactly. Now you can't hide behind memes and text messages and social media posts and all this other shit. Now you got to really be yourself. Well, he was looking for the memes. Yeah, and that's why he never got another date because it's like you can't be on

the phone the whole time you would, especially if we've, if we know each other, like, we already like had some history, you could be on your phone. But if this is your first date with this woman, you can't be on your phone. Dating is fucking weird, especially. especially first dates. I feel them. I'm not saying be on the phone, but to be nervous and to not know what to say, I can understand that. But what do you see, you know why I don't understand it? Because I look at it like if she's at dinner with me, right? That means she already has some type of interest in me. She wants to get to know me. She's willing to spend some time with me

and one-on-one. Like, so to me, that's a W. She agreed to the date. Not if you're saved as food guy or dinner. Oh, that's a whole other. See? She could just want to be. She could just want a free meal. But you'll find that out in conversation. You can feel that. Oh yeah. You can feel when a woman is just like, definitely can. If she's on her phone the entire time, then you know like, oh, I'm just a, I'm just food. Yeah. I'm just food and wine to her. Like, I'm not, I'm nothing more. Like, she's not paying me no attention. Like, or if you, or if you text her to say the spot that we're going to. And she's like, oh, I've never heard of that, like in a bad way. She's strictly, why are we going, why are we going to catch?

Yeah. Why? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yes. My best friends at catch tonight. Yeah. Thought maybe we'd go over there too. And then three girls end up sitting at the table with you. And you got to pick up that whole bill. Oh my God. I've been a victim of that before.

But you learned. I definitely have. You learn. I definitely have. You learn. That's what I'm saying. You got to go through things and you learn. Like, okay, I'm never.

No, your girls cannot. No. No. We're not doing that. But that's where being funny helps. Because if they all sit down, I'm going to make a bunch of sarcastic jokes about what they're ordering and then I'm not paying. And then when the bill comes, I'd be like, I was dead ass. And then I'm going to leave.

Oh, that's, that's fucked up. See, now that's that's fucked. That's fucked up. I get it, but that's fucked up because you kind of making them feel like everything is cool. No, I didn't invite you. I never mind picking up a girl that I'm seeing, girlfriend, talking to whatever category, and her friends that are her actual friends, not ones that they met on Instagram and like tag each other so they can share followers. I get it.

Like a real friend. And a friend that I'm going to see again, like a friend that I trust around my girl to put her in good situations. that would not be harmful, I'll pick up the tab anytime there. I don't mind at all. Yeah. But if you invite your three friends that happen to just go to Tao every Tuesday, I'm cool, bro. Yeah, no, I mean, in closing, it's okay to pick up a friend's check.

I don't know why people... Not according to Twitter. Yeah, not according to social media. But if you see a friend of your, a female friend of yours and she's at dinner or whatever, and she tells you she's at dinner, it's okay to pick up the check for them. Like, that's not calm. bought. I wasn't trying to ruin the guy's chances of getting pussy. I wasn't dirty macking. I don't like this thing started saying everything.

I felt away if I was the guy though. But why? I'm out on a date with you and then a fucking waiter comes up and says the tab's already taken care of with some fucking, you don't know who picked it up. Like where the fuck did this? Yeah, you don't know who picked it up. Yeah, and that's why I'm mad. But why are you mad? Take me to who picked it up. So I could pick him up. No, the way you bounce back from that is you would just tip the waitress, whatever the bill is. That's how you bypass that

See? Now it's not awkward You still You still technically paid for the meal It was a nice gesture You over tipped the waitress I'm just always a good thing I can't compete with your fairy godparent

From the phone But you don't know It could be the manager at the restaurant It could be the chef And let me I want to talk to the manager Yeah but you It's the first thing

I'm the customer I'm paying for the food You can't get mad at that Yes I'm getting mad I understand it though You would be mad Lie to me Lie to me right now

I wouldn't say I would be mad I would definitely, like, I would question it, like, who picked this up. You would have plenty of questions. Yeah, I would definitely question, like, who picked it up, for sure, just because I want to know. But it's not going to make me, like, I'm not upset and it's not going to ruin the night. Like, it's not, it's not that. Okay, well, let's roleplay, then. First of all, you know what they're going to cause with.

I know. I'm feeding into it. Okay. Okay. Okay, I'm the girl. You are mall. Yes, I'm all. Yes.

The waiter just came. You tried to pay. He said, oh, it's already been. taken care of. I have a facial expression that already knew that was going to happen. She didn't know, though. Okay. So I'm like, oh my God, who did that? Yeah. Did you, wait, when you went to the bathroom, did you pick the check up? No. So how did it go? I would ask, I would ask the way that, yo, who, who picked it up? Who picked it up the tab? I'm now checking my phone. I see a text from Mall. Mall says, yo, picked up that tab for you.

No, I didn't say nothing. Picked up that tab, ma. I didn't. No, no, no, no. I didn't say anything. You're clean. No, no, no. Everything's taken care of. I did never think that. She texted me and said, oh my God. Like, laugh. Like, it was, we laughed.

It was a, she knew what it was. Like, it was a funny, a funny thing between us. Okay. I'm back to being the girl. Let's just call her Sarah. Okay. My friend Mall picked it up. Oh, okay.

Is that like your ex? Is that like? No, he's just a friend. Oh, okay. Oh, cool. Look at this liar sitting to the, right with me. What do you think I'm going to do? If I said a friend picked it up, if you're not that cool, you're not that cool. You know what you think I'm going to do? Flip the table over. So what's going on

in your brain? Okay, fine. Who the fuck is the friend? Yeah, some dudes she used to talk to. Anytime a chick says, oh, a friend. Okay. You think that a woman hasn't had men experiences before you? No, I think that this experience is mine because we're at dinner together. Yeah, no, yeah, but I thought this was my experience. But, okay, I just said, it's my turn, ma'am. I just said, the way. I just said, the you bypass that, just tip the waitress. That's all. You're too cool. Well, you're making it too.

No, but people make it awkward. You can't make it awkward. Oh, no. I wouldn't say anything in the moment. I have too much ego and pride for that. But that might be the last time I speak to that woman. Based off of that? Yeah.

Oh, that, I mean, that's fair. Because I think that goes back to our conversation with the woman that screams A in the club. It just be little things that I just, like, all right. If she just says, Oh, just a friend picked up the tab that I invited you to dinner. I may stake a little red flag right there. And sometimes one red flag will get me going. Sometimes 35 won't get me going.

But sometimes one red flag will get me going. This is interesting. So, but why a red flag, though? Because I think there is some consideration when the same way. And again, remember, this is the first date. When paying for a date, dating is all social constructs at the end of the day. But we show our consideration and our, interest in someone in our politeness via dates.

That's the social construct of it. Paying for food doesn't really mean you're a good person. It's just a way to start things, right? Right. So in this first date, I'm meeting your representative thing where we're going to show each other how polite we are and all this other bullshit. If your friend just picks up the tab from nothingness from the air when I asked you to go out and this is a date with you and I, and the gesture of paying is.

showing how much I care for the first portion of us meeting, I think that's a red flag if you shrug it off and go, yeah, no, just my friend in Dunder Mifflin over here just paid it. Like, out of nowhere. I would look at it like that if me and Shoredi were like serious. And like we were like, you know, on a serious level with each other. Like not saying you had to be, obviously you would feel the type of way if that's your girl. We don't got to talk about that.

But if we had like, this is a few times we've hung out. We've been intimate. we've, then I would be like, all right, who is this dude that's just picking up? But if it was the first date, I can't, you almost can't even question that. I'm not saying I would question it to her face. I would question it with my psyche. And with the homies in a group chat? Yeah, and it's like how did, how dude even knew she was here?

And like this feels like this is baggage already. This feels like some petty dude I used to talk to or I'm still kind of talking to and might be out to piss him off. But my thoughts could be wondering. But that's why you ask her. Like so, so what is it? And, you know,

she probably told him like, oh, no, a friend of mine, he brought me, he put me on to this spot, whatever. Like, my thing is, you can't be on the first date.

You can't show that insecurity and get mad at that. You can't, because then for her, that might be the last time she's ever going to fuck with you know what you're saying? Like, whoa, like you went crazy

because a friend of mine picked up the check. I'm not, I'm not saying go crazy. I'm just saying I would. No, but you know, Some dudes would, though. Like, it changes the entire night.

Like, their energy tour, they stop talking to her. They don't even want to like it. There's dudes that if you don't reply to their DM, say, fuck you, bitch, you're mad ugly. And, no, no, of course. I'm not saying that wouldn't happen. It's nothing wrong with it is all I was saying. Like, it was a friend of mine is a friendly gesture. We had a conversation about that in the past, and she expressed how that would embarrass the shit out of her.

So it was kind of like playing on that. And it was just a fun night. That's all. Listen, man, I brought a chick into a circle and then she fucked the other dude. So who might have talked? But we got to finish talking about that though. Like how does that- We can wrap that topic up.

But how does that make you feel though? I told you. I felt, I felt more insecurity that I was insecure. I don't know if that makes sense. No, I understand exactly. I was shocked that I felt away. Yeah, exactly.

I was very surprised that I felt away. Especially because it had been a minute, wasn't my business to say yes or no too. I was more insecure that I felt insecure about it. But did you fill away because of who she slept with? No. No, no, I didn't care at all. Okay. That didn't bother me, though. It was just because- It would bother me. Like, if it's a dude

that I know is a super lame, because you never want to share a girl with a lame dude. You understand what I'm saying? Like, that kind of's like, you got to have a type. Like, a woman I'm dating, you got to have a type. Like, if I'm your type, there's certain niggas that can't be your type. No, push her summed that up. He said, I never said she was the brightest. So if you had her to, it don't affect me in the slightest. I've never met a bitch that didn't need a guidance. I don't like to wear a bitch. I apologize for using it.

And I don't think Pusher meant to use it either. He wrote it. It was a different pusher. This is 2007. So yeah, I can't I can't say every single chick has not made a mistake in her same way with me. I fucked bum chicks before that I was probably above. Right. Oh for sure. Absolutely. So I can't put that on. So if a girl is fucked a lame, I can't be like, oh fuck.

We all make mistakes. We do, man. But it's see, I just hold it to a different regard when it comes to women. Like, I think that me personally, I think naturally men should have more sexual partners than a woman. Like, a woman should never say, oh, I slept with 100 guys. Oh, you're going down a slippery slope here, my friend. I'm just saying the women I'm, the women I would want to be dealing with. It's like, you don't, just typically you don't see, because women talk about it. Women have said if, like, how you out here just sleeping with anybody.

Like, women say that type of shit. That's true. But I think men should abide by that too. And I'm saying I haven't abided by it. No, we should, as men, we definitely should have more, you know, we should definitely be more picky with the type of women. If there's a hole in a wall, a man will probably fuck it. We don't really have standards. And that's what I'm saying.

As men, we need to have standards. It's okay to have standards. It's okay to be like, nah, I'm a cool, shoddy. But, you know, you go through a phase. We're growing up, listen, man, we're just out here for sport. Like, it's just, it's part of going through, again, experiences. You've got to experience certain things. You got to experience the type of women you shouldn't be dealing with.

Like, it's experiencing things. But you can't, I feel like once you're a man or a woman grown and, you know, you have things going on. I feel like you're at a point in life where you have to say, okay, it's just certain things I'm never going back to. I agree. Like, I think women get to a point where they're like, okay, certain things from a man, once I see it, it's like, okay, I could never deal with him. And it's the same thing for men. There's certain things we're seeing women. We're like, nah, I'm cool because I know what comes with that.

That's not really what I'm on anymore. I'm not on that type of frequency. Like, I'm on a different, on a different level. Yeah, but the women that are the most fun are the women that aren't there yet. That's not true. So you're going to run in. That's not true. Because the women that are there are probably in their career.

Nah, man. Women that are, women that have high standards can be very fun to. No, I didn't mean it like that. No, I don't understand what you're saying. But they get a bad rep like they're too like. No, I don't know. Those sicks are mad for him. I love women with high standards.

Like, to me, that's the, because they, it's certain shit that they say, that's just so, like, comical to me. Because it's like, wait, what? Like, you wouldn't deal with a guy based off of what? And there's certain things you hear, it's like, oh, this is crazy. But I understand it because she's probably dealt with so much bullshit. She's like, yo, I'm never doing that again. Like, I would never deal with this type of guy that talks about, yeah, no, me and my baby moms live together, but we, we're not really together. Like, cut it out.

Listen, man, it's for the kid. Yeah, I know. I know. They've been through that. You don't care about the kid. No, I love the kids. You don't want the kid to see you. I love the kids, but you can't, you can't think you're getting that off.

That's like if a girl tells you, nah, me and my boyfriend, me and my ex, we still live together, but we don't sleep in the same bed. I've seen it. You're rolling with that? You believe in that? I'm not saying, I believe her. I know it's happened, though. As long as you. As long as you.

I know it's happened. I know people that are together and sleeping in several rooms for a long time. Okay, that's a little weird. They need to, they need to see that. You haven't been in a relationship. Just talk. You haven't been in a relationship. No, but talk.

What is the point of you being in a relationship with somebody? It's the hardest thing on earth to do in a relationship is talk. No, it's not. See, that's another thing. We make these things up, man. It's not hard to just sit down, especially if you're with this person already, to talk. How is that hard? When you put in a five-year bid, holl at me.

That's, it should be easy to talk. At five years, we basically, we family at this point. Like, you're my wife at this point. We've been together five years. You haven't been institutionalized. You're just the inmate. Like, you literally just got. from the tombs and you're like oh it's jail thing's not so bad like no do a bid and then talk to bro it's

nothing you can ever tell me that it's nothing that you can ever tell me that i'm in solitary confinement over here it's nothing that you can say that's going to ever make me believe that it's hard to talk to your significant other okay i mean i don't believe that i mean i'm i don't believe that's when it becomes the most difficult when you say it's hard to talk what do you mean because she won't listen or it's always an argument like what do you mean by it's hard to talk to her yeah i mean uh time with people certainly can create barriers and actions can create barriers and lack of trust in certain places can cause barriers. So when those barriers are there and you try to have communication, it's very tough for anyone to say anything that's going to be listened to.

Because people start, people start to give up on expressing themselves. So why you're because that person's not hurt? Because that's because that's what love is. But the most of why I don't tell me And those people are like, oh, why don't you just break up with her? Because at this point, all y'all have together is time. Like, if y'all can't even communicate. Listen, I hold heartily. Go ahead. I'm sorry, I'm going to cut you off.

Hold heartily agree with that point. Yeah, like, if y'all can't even communicate at this point, it's hard to even talk to each other at this point. How are y'all still living under the same roof? To me, that's like going, you would fucking, it would stress you out and give you anxiety knowing that I have to go home to a person that's there that I don't even speak to. Like, that is the most, that is the craziest shit in the world to me. You're speaking to something that you probably haven't lived. I know we do the joke that you haven't been in a relationship.

I know you've been in a relationship. Yeah, no, I haven't lived that. No. When you have been with someone for multiple, multiple years, you've lived together, you share a fucking bank account, you share furniture, you share all these things. A breakup isn't the easiest thing in the world, and especially the point of being in long-term relationships is to get over those hurdles. So leaving at the first sight of turmoil.

No, no. And listen, not communicating is. one of the first hurdles in getting over the five-year step. Figuring out how to communicate in spaces that you've never been in before. Because usually people that have been in like five-year relationships, unless you've been divorced or, you know, it's rare. Especially in your 20s or 30s. That is a huge step in getting over that to a marriage, to something long-term,

is breaking that first barrier of, I don't know how to talk to this person anymore. Because you're totally past the regular fights of, like, yo, who's that bitch that commented on your Instagram? Like, we're getting into life barriers of, like, disagreeing with the next 10 years. Those are difficult conversations to have. Yeah, like, if you have a job, you want to fight, you can't just run away at those. So, yeah, sometimes you suffer through months of not really speaking because I've invested my time.

This is something I want to do, but it's going to take time because if I go in there and react off emotion, I'm going to say some shit that could end this. Yeah, but again, that, that, that, To me, just communication is bare minimum. Like, if we don't have communication, what do we have? Just years together? Yeah. Well, a lot of people, especially if you get in relationships in your early 20s or mid-20s,

and they get to 35 years old, let's just use that example, 25 to 35. That's such a drastic time change in life, like so many different things happen there. Absolutely. That a lot of the times, yeah, all you guys have in common is time. but to a lot of people that's important like we may disagree time is more important than communication no I'm saying maybe interests

like I was saying there's sometimes communication is difficult with certain topics because you guys share different ideas of maybe I want to get married at this time maybe I want to have kids at this time yo I'm just focused on my career right now so I can't really do this you know I still go out with my friends just can't do this

like there's a lot of factors there that are not easy conversations to have with people because they are deal breakers for people and you don't want that to end. So yes, sometimes time is the only thing you guys have in common once 10 years has passed. Because when you met each other, yeah, you had mad in common. You're both 25-year-old kids trying to figure it out. I want to do this. I want to do that. Oh my God, you're so ambitious, all that bullshit. Then you go this path, that person goes this path. And I may be in the middle of my career at 35 where I have to travel a lot. I have to do this, that, this type of shit.

She may be settled down or vice versa. She may be traveling. Those are difficult conversations to have because the end goal could be we're breaking up. And it's, It's like, wow, did I just sit here for 10 years? Yeah. And so, again, yeah. So basically it's the time that keeps people together in those situations because, of course. Again, if you don't have, if you can't communicate with your significant other and y'all are living in the same house under the same roof, sleeping in the same. First of all, if it gets until a point where y'all sleeping in separate rooms, it's like, all right.

I think that's more common than you think it is. No, I know it happens. But to me, that is the first sign of, okay, we either have to. fix this or we're gonna just... Or that's exactly what y'all need at the moment. So you need space. And I'm saying lack of communication at a certain time maybe exactly what the fuck y'all need

because if we're in it for the long haul, yeah, it might need to take a couple months to be fucking miserable and figure out my shit. So when we do actually find a time to communicate, I know exactly what to say and where I feel and these are my do's and don'ts. This is what I'm standing on. This is what I'll compromise on.

Like, that takes time. Listen, I totally, I'm all for having space. I spoke about that on the show before. I think space is healthy. I think space gives you time to think clear and, you know, kind of figure things out. I'm all for space, but there's also a dangerous thing with space. Sure. Space leaves room for somebody else to come in and start, you know, your girl now feels like she can communicate with this guy and she can tell him anything.

Sure. He's giving her good advice and then da-da-da-da. And the next thing you know. I hate the advice, man. They're on the west side highway and, you know, it's a long drive. You know what goes. Why, that's exactly what you're brain with it. You know what goes on on the west side highway when you get on that 56th Street and go all the way up.

You know what's going on. You know, no more lights. I could just take this straight up to fucking Riverdale if I want to. And maybe make a U-turn on the Henry Hudson and go south. You know, you know, with his hand. He's getting handsy on the west side highway, fam. And then now your queen got some man's nasty palm all up her thigh and shit. And you know what I mean?

Or because you didn't want to communicate. I actually have a completely off topic thing that just... I love off topic things, but... Okay, you're from Uptown. Yes. You know members of Dipset. Yes. Can you clear up a lyric for me?

What's that? On Hey Ma. Hand creeping up her left side, ready to... Do it ready to bone. That's fine. Uh-huh. Totally understand that. When Juel said,

and maybe we should rap geniuses, maybe I've just misunderstood this lyric for a really long time. And I love Juell's. I don't want to bring up something that's kind of cause some turmoil. Mm-hmm. But I just have a question. Mm-hmm. Why did Jewel's at 18 tell the girl, plus I could tell you what the 80s like?

Because that would make her 12 years old. Yo, what's wrong with you, man? Like, why would your brain... Yo, look where your brain holds on to. Like, how would you do the math on that? Because when Hayma came out, I remember the day. Right. I remember the flex bombs.

Uh-huh. I remember them like they were yesterday. I remember Hey Ma And I was 12 or 13 when that came up Okay And as a 12 or 13 year old We memorize lyrics pretty quickly We wrapped them back to our friends

Except for the N-word We self-edit on that one Jewel's told her I told her I'm 18 and live a crazy life He has not lied yet Oh see now you read it wrong And then he said She was older than him

Plus I'll tell you what the 80s like Yeah, she was older than him, though. So, so, because she said you was a baby, right? And he said, no, I'm 18 and live a crazy life. Plus, I could tell you what the 80's like. So he's saying that like, I'm young, but my mind is advanced. Like, I'm, I'm mature than, more mature than my age. I'm cool with that one.

But the fact that you did that math is, Roy, you're sick, man. I was just saying, I was born in 1990. How long did you hold on to that, though? Because I've never heard you bring that up before. This is your first time bringing it up. 2002, yeah. You are sick, man. Something really wrong with you.

It's funny. At Palooza, I almost asked him. I got a question, man. And it's been bothering me. How old was that girl you was talking to when he came home? Obviously, she was older than him because she said you're a baby. Meaning like, I'm older than you. So he was just suggesting like.

And he's saying like, no, I'm 18 and I'm, you know, I know about what's going on. I could tell you what the 80s like. It was more like that type of energy. Because I don't know. I was just born in 1990. Right. And this came out in 2002, I think. Right.

And I remember I didn't know what the 80s were like. Yeah. But he wasn't talking to. So he must have been talking to a woman in my class. No, no, no. I'm not sure. What I think is he's saying I'm 18, but I'm mature. Like I know about things a lot older than me and I could, you know.

Okay. And in his defense. This is going to sound bad. Especially with the reason. And he knows what the ladies like. I approach baby like, Ma, what's your age in type? She looked at me and said, he was a baby. right. So he did ask what her age was prior to. It is on record that's a question that he did

ask the woman. That's a question that you ask a woman. I mean, you know, some, some women get offended, but you got to ask nowadays because these young girls, we're looking a lot older, so you don't want to get in any trouble. But yeah, you ask what's your age and type. All right. I don't think guys ask, do guys still ask that what's your type? Do they still ask women what their type is? No, women just ask us what our signs are and then come to all conclusions. We don't even get to that point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, if you're not a Sagittarius, it's not going to work out, ball.

Yeah, sorry. Yeah, I like, that's cleared up. I stand corrected. My 12-year-old brain definitely misheard that lyric. That's cool. She was saying he was a baby and he was suggesting, yo, I'm not that young. I'm only 18, but I'm a lot more mature than the typical 80s. I knew what was going on in the 80s.

I'm not in Roy's grade. Right, right, right, exactly. That's what, that's what he was leading to. Okay, that makes me feel. a little bit better. Yeah. Well, music came out that I did want to do more lyrical breakdowns too,

so I think that is actually a pretty good segment. We left somebody off the emo emo male singleist, and I don't know how he did. Oh, yeah. He's actually the new god of it.

Exactly. And put out a smash. A smash. Don't ever say that to me again. Yeah, why don't like smash? Okay, what do you want to say? He put out a good song? Yeah, a good tune.

He put out a good. good tune, put out a good tune last night. And I thought about it. I was like, damn, how did we not name Brent? When you were young in the Rockefeller offices, anytime a single came, did you say, oh, that's the new blazing single? No. Okay. Never said that. I don't think I've ever said blazing, hot new single? Never said blazant, no. Every single record that came out of Def Jam, they put a sticker on. Blazine new single. Like, that was the word back in there. You should check the temperature. Yeah. All right. So yes, Brent, we left off that. Brent has been screaming for help forever. Yeah.

He has been humming his pains for quite some time. And we've just been jamming. You know, like damn near suicidal shit. Yeah. It's great, though. Sounds great. Makes for good music. I did love the meme that was going around of when she says,

my music taste is different, and it'd just be Brent Fayette. Yeah. That goes with the, I'm an artist and the dirty night. Yeah, yeah. It's the same thing. It's the same thing, yeah. All right. So Brett Fayette's Drake.

I'm pronouncing that, right? Brent Fires. Fires. Fires. I say fires. All right. Tomato tomato. Yeah.

Wasting time. I assume Ferel produced this or this was just an ode to the Neptunes. Yeah, the Neptunes produced this. Very much mid-2000s, Neptune's beat, which I fucking love. Yeah. Did it with the artwork as well. Mm-hmm. They have that.

I didn't, maybe I'm late to this. I read that people were saying that they have an EP coming out together, Brent and Drake? I don't know. I was told last week that this, that there was a Drake and Brent song. coming. The person did not say it was an EP, though. Yeah, I read some things online. I don't know if people were just, you know, putting bullshit out there, but they said...

Online? No. Well, yeah, exactly. They would never... They were saying that they hoped that the Neptunes are producing the entire EP. I would like that. I mean, who would not like that? Yeah, this was definitely a throwback Neptune's vibe, knock.

It was good to hear it in the midst of all of this music that's being put out now. It was good to hear like a nostalgic sound. that you kind of, you know, remember from the early 2000s. Yeah. I was waiting for it. It sounded like I was waiting for Justin Timbleth to pop out, start singing on this shit. It felt like the NERD run to the sun era, for sure. And it was, it was cool to hear the new, even though Brent did, I could tell, take some of the Farrell Cadens purposely.

Oh, yeah. On certain parts. I actually believe, I like to hear a new sound on the show. I think I may hear a little bit of Farrell singing on the background. I wouldn't doubt. He does a lot of. vocal pad shit every time he produces but no it was good to hear that if they have an EP amazing i saw ross say that he had talked to Drake and now's the time for them to do their EP oh yeah that

i'll take that first about yeah yeah that's that's that's way oh it takes precedent yeah over everything yeah but i think this ties this song ties into kind of what we were just talking about but from a different capacity if you're gonna waste your time then waste your time with me That just sounds, you see when you put that to a Farrell track, how it just sounds. Because if I say that to a girl, she's going to block me. And then after said, this toxic ass, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and then after said, I mean, honestly. Yeah. Just being honest.

Okay. Here's where I don't think this is toxic. Fam. All right. Go ahead. I'm listening. Because you only because you my guy, I'm entertained us. Go ahead. And it's kind of to what you were saying before. Okay. Everyone, let's call a spade to spay. Okay. everyone of a certain age

has wasted their time in a relationship Oh yeah Absolutely Every last person has Absolutely And if you did it right In wasting your time It wasn't in vain

Okay You learned what you didn't like Out of the time waste You learn what you like You learn what you will deal with What you will put up with How you will be treated The do's and dotes again

Of how you feel in a relationship comes from when you have your time wasted. To your point of saying a chick has probably fucked with a lame dude before, and she's not anymore because she knows how it goes. Right. So I don't like the term time wasted, because I think there is a space where you can learn something from every last thing you do. Even if it is, now I know all the red flags to see my time being with it. Right. Correct. So Brent here saying, if you're going to waste your time, then waste your time with me. I mean, honestly, open your eyes and see what you need.

who's giving you what you need. So he's saying, yo, come let me beat. I'm probably not going to be a great guy to you, but at least you'll know what a good guy is and what he isn't. So at least do it with me because I'm going to do it politely. Right. Come and learn from me.

Yes. Come and learn the type of guy. Learn what a shitty man is. Yeah, you can't, you can't, don't ever fuck with a guy like me. That's fucking sick. I don't think it's toxic at all. Get the, Rory. Cut it out, man.

That's some toxic-ass shit. Yo, listen, you're going to waste your time anyway. Whether it's me or somebody else, but I would rather it be me. This is why I'm saying you're contradicting what you said before. Because if I'm honest and saying, yo, I don't want a relationship. I get it. No, I get it. It's still toxic, though.

I'm the polite, like, I didn't lie through the shit. I told you what it was. You didn't like that and continued to do it. So, let's do it until you're fed up and you learn don't fuck with dudes like me. That's a real polite shit to me. Yo, it's something really wrong with you. You really try to sell me on this. That's toxic, man.

I get it, though. I understand what you're saying. It's inevitable. Everyone has to waste their time in a relationship. That's not true. That's not true. Not every relationship. Are you going to go through some relationships where you feel like you're wasting your time?

Absolutely. But then you find a person that you're like, oh my God, this is everything that I've ever wanted in a partner. Like some people are really genuinely happy. Until you feel like how many high school sweethearts you know? No, absolutely. You have to go through it. You have to go through shit to understand. I'm agreeing with you there.

Like, you have to have experiences to know moving forward. Like, okay, I would never put myself in a situation like this. You have to know the type of red flags to look out for. Look at certain patterns. Like, oh, I know what type of guy this is. I've been here before. But for you to say, like, yo, listen, you're going to waste your time, right? We know that.

It might as well be with me. Yeah. And he's saying, he's saying, I'll give you all the space you need, more than you need the space. More than you need. I'm telling you, listen. Yeah. It's cool. Go, do what you want to do.

I am who I am. Honesty. Same shit you was asking for. I'll be where I be. Honesty. I'm going to go where I want to go. Sorry. Right.

From there, if you ever hit me on the late night, I'll give you a clear mind. Might even give you some insight. So not only is this person telling you exactly his intentions, he's saying if you want to come through after the club and fuck real quick, I'm cool with that. I'll give you a clear mind that you want to feel weird about it, nothing. And then on top of that, after we fuck, I can give you some insight on maybe

you know, your dating path and where you're going wrong in certain situations. That is a fucking noble dude. Noble, huh? You've been this dude. Don't do that. I'm definitely been there. You definitely got a chick after like, like you've beat. For sure. One thousand percent. You've paid a tab for their dinner and she's went back to fuck you and then you're like, well, hey, you probably shouldn't date those type of guys. I don't know if I've ever done that. I don't know if I've ever done that. You should try to throw that in there see if I was going to agree. I don't know if I've ever done that, but okay, I've definitely been a toxic person.

I don't think this is as toxic as it's coming across to be. Can we go, can we scroll down to Drake's verse? Because he had a bar in it where I was just like, all right. I didn't, I'm not sure if an EP is coming, but I think we should get one. I mean, you went from skin care to swimwear, quite possibly my favorite bar of 2021. But look, look, man, I didn't want to say it. Listen, I didn't want to come on our platform and say it. I know that girl.

I know that girl. Fam, I know her. I know all of hers. I know all of hers. Yes. But he has a line. He says, where is it at? Scroll up a little bit.

The other way. Right there. Disappointment I stay expecting it. The pessimist gold medalist flush the magnets just so they're not collecting my specimens. Damn. You know my favorite part of Drake's adlives are, and I'm not saying this is in clown shit, I really do enjoy this. When he reacts to his own bars and how disappointed he is at the end of them, he heard it back and was like, damn, Drake, why are you living like this? The way she went poppy, man, you would think she's a veteran on remembrance.

Do y'all hear the words he's flipping in this drink? You are spending too much time at Highlight Room. Go home. Damn. Go home, Drake. Stop shit. hanging out in L.A. Go back to Toronto. Your ex-roommate got a condo that's downtown.

She ain't got no furniture in the crib. I've been there. I've been to that condo, too. Then he said, then he said checkmate. Nobody's playing with you. Like, this girl is hurting at this point. Like, you're talking about checkmate. Even though you hate that I even check her, I'll still get an EFA effort. Only time I played it back and forth is a Leia record.

Bars. If I let you talk first, then nobody is speaking second. This is when he gets into his shit. Fluent and passive aggression. that's why you acting dismissive hearing me out for once but require you actually listen damn see

listen he's really crying out for help grown man bars is something you gotta deal with you listen man I fam I understand I know I know again we must be Eskimo brothers I know the exact girl he's talking about

yeah no I know I know all of them I know what she's talking I can tell you the type of perfect I know her friend that has no furniture yeah I know the friend that went from skin care to swimwear It's times like this Hove does it Nause'll do it

Not to cut you off but to cut you off Oh no go ahead The whenever I tell the truth You feel like you being attacked But that come with being attached So how about we leave it at that? It's like you and your feelings too much And whenever I say something

Now you feel like I'm coming at you I'm attacking you It's like oh you're just You're in too deep Like your feelings are too strong They're too intense right now Well anytime she gets That's some toxic shit

Anytime she tells you that she's scared of catching feelings. She already has. Yeah, she's cool. But I hate chicks that any time you finally tell them about themselves, that now you're attacking them. It's like, dog, I've been quiet taking your verbal abuse for some time. I finally decided to get my shit off and now I'm attacking.

You're passive, aggressive ass, mad dismissive. And now I finally tell you exactly about yourself and read you perfectly, down to your skin care and your swimwear and your friend with no furniture in a fucking apartment. And now I'm attacking. Exactly. And yet all you've been asking for me is to communicate with you. and tell you the truth. Right.

No, you want me to tell you your truth. Not the truth, your truth. Or how you want me to communicate with you. This is a great record, man. I just, I like when, I like when stars remind us that they, like, know what's going on in the world still. Yeah.

Like, anytime Hove will make a Twitter reference, we're like, how the fuck did he know that? Granted, we know Drake be on the timeline. Right. DM in all, everyone's bitches, but allegedly. It is nice to know that he deals with the same problems that we do.

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. He ain't, Drake is, he's, listen, man, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a superstar about, about every definition of the word. But he's still, he's still, he's still, he's still out here, though. He's still accessible. You're still bump into him. I'd just be wondering, like, how many swimsuits do these broads need?

How are they all selling them? Listen, man, they got a, the hustle is a hustle, man. It's this, it's the same way as, as my white self was wondering. like in rap music like damn all these guys sold crack like who was smoking if this many people sold it that's a real problem that's a real question though how many people are smoking yeah because and then you start to realize like somebody's lying and that's where with all these chicks with swimwear lines I'm like dog every shit like come on a lot of these chicks live in the flyover states don't have much water to begin with like they're not going in the rivers in these thongs somebody somebody told me

something about the whole swimsuit thing and I don't, I kind of feel like I'm kind of snitching if I say it. It's a posse scheme. It's the wake up now. It's the new wake up now. It's, let's just say that my, and this was, I thought this, first of all, I think it's a genius idea if it's true, if this is what's happening. But my homeboy was like, yo, I think

that the bathing suit shit is just the front for like. Selling pussy. Escort. Oh, yeah. Like the girl has on this bathing suit. And they're saying that this bathing suit is called the whatever. And then a guy with DM and be like,

yo, I want that bathing suit. Like. I might have to text this girl right now. Bro, this was. You been selling pussy this whole time? I thought about it. I looked at him like, fan. First of all, if that is true,

let's just say that that's genius, number one. No, because that makes a lot of sense. Because like four seasons, this is just what I heard. I didn't, I don't know this personally. At the four seasons, like in the piano lobby room, if a girl orders a certain drink, that means that she's there selling pussy to go upstairs. Right. Like she doesn't have to say she's working. She just orders that drink.

Very, very covert, very smooth, clean operation. And I don't even think that the bartender gives her that drink. It's just says it. They know it. Because no one orders that drink. Exactly. Yeah. Wow.

I thought about that and I was like, because he was like, you'll think about it, who do you, ain't nobody wearing these bathing suits? This is amazing critical thinking. I thought, you see how you like, wait, hold up. I went through that. I was like, wait, that is genius shit, though. Because you think about it, the girls have one in the bathing suit. This is da-da-da-da-da, whatever, whatever. Okay, you're scrolling through it.

Like, I want that bathing suit. Yeah. Like, come on, you live in the Bronx. And now I'm trying, maybe I'm thinking Drake was in on knowing this. And skin care used to be the way to do it. And then their cover was blown. So they had to move to swimsuits. Yeah.

And maybe Drake is, you know, double on. You know, I know now. You went from skincare to swimwear. We got to catch up. See how we late? We got to catch up, Roar. Oh, my God. I just realized what unboxing videos meant.

Come on now. See? It gets crazy. The more you think, yeah. I've definitely had a chick, text, me like, BRB, have to do this unboxing video. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I never understood.

I was like, what is the appeal for men or women of unboxing it to see it? Why don't you just show what the fucking item is? You know what the appeal is. It was a code. Yeah. I'll unbox this pussy if you DM me the right price. This box can be yours too. I'm a novice, man.

I know. I'm a novice. I learned. I learned something. Here I was out here just sleeping with women that liked me. No. No. I don't know.

I blew my mind. Yeah. I think some more toxic, yet I don't think toxic music came out. Division put out of Lucy with Ty and with Mac Miller, rest of peace. which I was talking with Daniel we have talked about this record on our previous podcast years ago I guess there was a snippet out

and we had talked about the snippet I didn't remember he sent me the link we did talk about it so a snippet did come out about this and we clearly loved it but this record is great real real good record real good record

got a fight back early in the summer Meg's putting out music hers putting out music women are putting out great music it's time to fight back Yeah. I applaud Division for putting out of Lucy to fight back from men. They just put out an album.

They could take some time and relax. No. The fight continues. Fight on. I appreciate them for that. Yeah, I like the record, man. Real good record. Ty Dala, you know, we always good to hear from Ty.

He never misses, especially, you know, records like this. This is like a layup for Ty. It was good to hear Mac Miller. Really good to hear Mac. Yeah, his verse was done. dope. Really, really good DMAC. I do want to get into some of this record, though.

Okay. I always like a record starting with, bitch, you lied in my face and I believed it. That's a good way to start. I've been there. And then saying, oh, I believed it. I believed it. No matter what I do, you said you'd never leave me.

And here's what I want to talk about. As amazing as this record is, I don't want to talk about this record. Okay. Women are fucking liars, man. Okay, let me stop. Women are not liars. Huh? Well, they are.

Okay. Women don't finish their sentences. Hear me out. I'm listening. I have heard in plenty of relationships. I know I'm not alone. I will never leave you. You're my soulmate.

Can't wait so we're married. You're my person. They love that one. Women love when you're their person. Mm-hmm. They just didn't finish the sentence. You're my person, you're my soulmate, I'll never leave you. If things stay the way they are now and or the way I like them.

Oh, yes. Women need to finish their sentences. Yes, definitely stipulations. Men are dumb. We take things very literal. We're children. So when you say, I will leave you no matter what. Don't act surprise when we act surprise when you leave us after we do some fuck shit.

Right. Because you said you could never leave me. This is what you said. I didn't in turn reply with all the fuck shit I was about to do. But now you're going back on your word too. Right. That's disrespectful to me. I mean, we all say things in times of, you know, when things are good, everything is great.

You know, I love you. I'm never, I can't see myself being without you and all this other shit. And soon as shit get rough and, you know, things change. It's like at that point, again, like you said, you're not living in the same house not speaking. It's like, all right, we just wait. One of us has to break this off. Like we both just being stubborn and we both just stand sitting here like because we have years together. But it's like clearly we mentally have moved on from each other.

It's just that you don't want to see. A lot of times you stay with the woman because you don't want to see her with another guy. Oh, 100%. And that's, but we got to get past that. Man, we got to just, fam. It was guys before you. I write mature, Matt. I'm just saying, but you have to be.

Sometimes I like to tag shit along. But no, but you have to. But again, for years. For years. For years? Can we keep it a buck? I'm not saying it's right. No, yeah, we keep it to the buck.

But to string along a relationship with a woman for years knowing that... Well, years is a bit excessive. But people do it. That's true. That's crazy to me. That's, to me, that's crazy. It's like, fam, just go your separate ways, man. Be happy.

You think things are so easy. I think that we complicate it. I'm not saying... No, no, I'm not saying that things are easy. I'm saying that we complicate things a lot, too, though. We make things more complicated than it have to be. We absolutely do it. As humans, we make things way more complicated than they have to be.

Okay, sometimes not facing your issues and just letting things string along to the point where everyone is just pretending to themselves to be happy is easier. Is it easier? It's not. That's what I'm saying. It's never easier, bro. It feels better in the time. Again, I understand it.

I've done it. So I'm not sitting here saying, I'm just saying we have to get to point. We just have to let this go. Okay. At some point in our new Rorya Mall brand or whatever people call it to sound cool, we can do it an anonymous thing. We could do, we could put the silhouette or blur the face and do the fake voice. Can I interview a woman you have dated privately by myself?

And then you can do the same with a woman I've dated. Two completely separate pieces of content. I will sit with a woman you have dated, ask her all these questions, and I'm putting myself in it. You can do the same with a woman I have. Okay. Let's see how fucking cool you are after that. This isn't a facade.

Like I'm only- Can't prepper. Don't be- Don't do that. I'm only laughing because why are we, why are we hiding the women? Well,

some, they could be in a relationship now, like, you know. But this is past shit. All right, you were just the coolest guy ever. If I'm dating a woman and she goes on YouTube

to talk about how she dated mall with me, I'm tight. But what are you tight about? See, I just don't understand. Don't go on, I'm dating you. Don't go on YouTube and talk about fucking mall. How is that complicated? But it's not, but it's not like, how cool are you?

No, but it's not about being cool. I just don't, it's not, it's like, what are you? It's not like she's trying to fuck me right now. She's talking about a past relationship. So it's just like, what is there to be upset about? Like, I just don't understand. Like, I'm not, I'm just not that insecure about shit like that. Benner, would you like if your girl went on a popular YouTube show, we'll call it a YouTube show,

because that's what the visuals are, showed her face, her name, her government, knew it was going to get a lot of hits to talk about sleeping and dating with the dude that is the star of that YouTube page. Yes. Thank you. That's a sane human, that's a sane man right there. No, this is my guy. That's a sane. That's a sane. That's a sane. human being. But I just don't understand why, though. Like, what is the... Now, if she...

If it's a dating show like, oh, you're trying to, like, get back with him and all... Then it's like, what the fuck is going on? But if you... Like, they know what this is. You're just trying to get...

Like, what is all like... Despite the jokes. In a relationship. What is them all like... Like, you know what it's about. Despite the jokes I make on here, I am actually a very secure dude. I do tolerate things

much more than the average man in the security department. Mm-hmm. in no way do I want, if I have the choice, do I want my girl going on a YouTube page that is popular to discuss dating and fucking the star of that YouTube page when she doesn't need to do that. I understand what you're saying. You put it like that, yes. It sounds like, why are you doing this?

I understand that. More, when you go back to the clubhouse on St. Nick and your girl is up there talking about fucking another dude and, oh, he was so charming and amazing and, oh, he was so charming and amazing. and oh, the sex was great. What's happening in the clubhouse? You're getting clowned. You're not allowed in the clubhouse. No, but I'm probably doing something I ain't supposed to do it anyway.

So it's like, all right, whatever. Like, that's what she was doing on your Saturday. I was doing worse than that. So, I mean. Yeah, but it wasn't on YouTube. You did it privately. That's true. That part is true.

I just don't, I just don't know. I'm just not shit like that. Like, I know what it is. It's like if she's sitting with you, it's like, oh, that's, you know, it's part of it. They just. No, I prefer if they would show.

other faces. I don't care about that. I just know some people may not be comfortable with that. But I'm serious about this piece of content. We can do that. Absolutely. I think that'd be hilarious. Absolutely. And we have to frame it like a fucking Katie Kirk interview. Yeah, absolutely. Like she went through like she's a victim.

Yeah, she got to speak out. That'd be crazy. That'd be funny, actually. So tell me what we got to do that. Tell me what mall did. Well, actually, he was really polite. Took me out of a date. Yeah, really gentlemen. That's what I'm saying. It's nothing crazy with me. Like, it's everything is You know what I'm?

It's no crazy stories out there about me, man. We all have secrets and we all have things we're not proud of, especially in DNA. I definitely have things I'm not proud of, but it's nothing like a woman is not going to say I did something like crazy that you're going to be like, what? Not crazy in that way, of course, but I think you have some insecurities or you have not said the coolest thing the way you do on this podcast. The way I give it up of how hurt I would be if a girl did that. And you're like, no, it'd be cool. Shorty could do whatever the fuck she want. I don't think any man is that cool.

It's true. Trust me. Once you understand the context of things, that's all, it's all about the context. What is this? What is it about? What is it? Okay. Me and Ben are going to take our insecure asses and have a nice evening with our ladies.

No, no fights. But you know how some guys... Because I'm screaming on Shorty. You know... But you would probably scream on her for less than that, too. Don't put that on me. Jesus Christ, how an animal do you think I am? No, I'm just saying.

Like, to me, this, if you would be mad at a girl for doing that, then you would, you would at a girl for doing that, then you'll be mad at a girl for doing a lot of shit. No, what? Like, okay, so if your girl, say your girl, would you be, would you, like, monitor certain shit that your girl posts on her Instagram, on pictures? No, I don't care about that at all. So your girl could post her ass out on Instagram. That's totally funny me.

See, that's, to me, that's crazy. Why? See, so that's what, okay. Okay, so that's what I'm saying. That's what we're different at. If your girl posts, like, she's in a thong on Instagram. It's fine with me. See, that's crazy to me.

That's not crazy to you, Benner? See, this is what I'm saying, bro. That's what we did. See, I just found with me and Rory different. Your girl is the mother of your child. Yeah, but she's a little different. But still, even. Grayson has an Instagram account.

That changes things. He can like it. But even if, even if you didn't have a family, this was just your girlfriend, you don't want her a thong? Because then it's like, okay, why, why are you posting the picture? It's the fleshy part of the leg. I don't care.

Nah, see, that's just a fucking... See, that's the white boy shit. It's a thigh. I just figured it out. It's a cultural divide. No, he disagrees with me though. It's a culture. No, he agrees with me on that part, but it's a cultural thing.

Like, you can't, you can't say on one hand... It's just the bigger part of the thigh. You can't say on one hand that you would feel a way if your girlfriend sat with a guy on a YouTube show to talk about the other guy that she had dated that's a part of the show. Yeah. But then on the other hand, say, oh, nah, she could post a picture of her ass and a thong on Instagram. It's all good. Yeah. I don't think anything is weird about that. Bro, no, that's a little...

Because to me, that's directly saying something. When the girl has her ass out, and, you know, I'm not mad at it, but I'm just saying my girlfriend, I wouldn't want her doing that because it just sends the wrong message to guys. No, it doesn't. If a girl puts her ass on Instagram and a thong... What message does it send? You know how horny?

Double tap? No, fam. Oh, yeah, niggas are trying to double tap. That's fine. Get your analytics up. No. You have swimsuits to sell. Hey.

Get your analytics up. You're up them impressions, baby. Show that ass. Yeah, you got swimsuits to sell. You are fucking sick, man. Show that ass for them impressions. Yeah. Come on.

We just did the, what was it called? Yeah, get your dossier of. So that's what it is. That's valuable. Yeah. No, she could sell 50 off that. No. We can't do that.

Listen. once she sends fashion over her analytics bag send the check I guess man that's what we did for at but now I understand it but yeah we definitely have to do that I'm down with that I mean I'm down with that at this point

in life maybe years ago and this is me maybe being a sheep but the right type of sheep a girl in a thong is not what it was 10 years ago it's like it's very regular now and I'm not being a sheep in that way I'm just not going to fight something that is really

the social norm now like I'm not going to get myself worked up that a woman showing her body that is mine, well, not mine, my girl. Your girlfriend, yes. It's not that big a do to me. Okay. It's not. I mean, now, if, you know, if you're going crazy and on the IG story, like, busting it open,

that's a little different. Nah, the impressions, fan. But that's only for 24 hours. Yeah, we got to get the impressions up. No, don't. You know what? Maybe it's still photo. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, now it's still a photo, but no video. What's that ass moves? Yeah, yeah, I know. See? Yeah, I knew we would come to the same arena. But what could a do really do? Like it and send some corny DM? No, it's just, it just sends, um...

Like, what fly DM could happen there? It's not even, it's not even more so about the DM. It's just the optic that it kind of paints. And it's like, you don't, you don't want to put that optic out there about your lady, or you don't want your lady to put that optic out there by herself. Not saying that my girl can't look good and post, you know, pictures on Instagram. when she looks amazing and she's beautiful and all that like that's fine if it's tasteful

cool but you know you know the part i'm talking about like when it's just like why are you and you why are you posting pictures in your bed laying down with your thong on like it's like we not you know if this was victoria secret and you're getting you know this is your profession and then it's like okay you know certain things that i got to accept that comes along with your profession but just for the the comments and the likes okay let me ask you a question Can you do a tasteful ass photo, not for any profession or anything like that? If your girl is, she's in a bikini or something and she's on the beach and she's, you know, it's like, okay, you know, it's a beach.

She has a bathing suit on. Like, she's in shape. She looks great. Like, I'm all for that. Like, if my woman looks great, she looks great. Like, I'm not telling my, well, put a fucking, a sheepskin coat on when you go to the beach. I'm not doing that. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I'm not that. type of guy but it's just a matter of how it was done the tastefulness of it the class the because you can be sexy i love women that's the thing i love about them you can they can be sexy like be sexy but it's just tasteful you got to be classy it has to be tasteful that's okay this is probably a bad example that i would not show the viewers but minus the bottom part of this could this be a tasteful photo minus the vagina can that be tasteful it's tasteful if she has on showing more an artsy of a woman's ass in her bed that she didn't do for money. It's not for Victoria's Secret.

It's just a dope photo of a woman and her ass. Her vagina happens to be in it, so I'm trying to take the vagina out of it. You can't post that. Your girl can't post that. Instagram wouldn't live. If your girl has a thong on, you would be happy if she posted that if she had panties on?

No, just because I think it would make it distasteful. I'm more so the art composition and the colors and the textures. It's artsy. Like, you would hang that in your crew. This dude is crap. You're not. man, your girl posts some shit like that, man. Are you crazy?

You lose your fucking mind. Her body, my choice. All right, all right, now. Okay. All right. They know what your Instagram is, right? Don't come at me. Guys, that was a joke.

Everyone relax. We can have fun. Don't be a weirdo. But you know what I mean. Like, I don't think her body, my choice. It has to be tasteful. As long as it's tasteful and classy, like, it's all good. Oh, well, that was a weird tangent.

Yeah. I did want to know what you thought of the division record. No, like I said, Great record, man. Great record. I love the Mac verse. Thai, Daniel, well, division, you know. The division record is great.

I did like the toxicness in there. Toxicity. A lot of toxicity. Also, what was the Thai line? I wish women would stop asking this. The Who Is She line? Is there ever a right answer to who is she? Who is this?

Is there ever a right answer? Like you could say that's my blood cousin. Right. Is that even, does that even work? But you got to understand something. Whenever a woman asks you who is this. She knows who it is. She knows exactly.

She knows things about that woman that you don't even know. You know what I'm still? So you have to answer that question very carefully. Matter of fact, she's met her. They've talked. They've already had a conversation for hours. They know everything about each other. So you have to answer that question very carefully.

And that's why sometimes it's just best just to be honest, man. Like, no, it's not because I've been honest in that situation where it's actually just been a friend and shown the conversation. And then I took it too far with my honesty and said, I've known her longer than I've known you. You can't ever do that, Rory. You said honesty is the best policy. Yeah, but that, that's almost like you choosing her side over your lady's side. No, and that's where I think women are dumb in that type of thinking. Oh, you're just shooting from everywhere today.

I just, I don't understand it. Like, no, that's my friend I've known for a very long time. So just because she has a vagina that I'm not interested in and never have been interested in does not mean I'm about to stop my relationship with her because you feel fucking weird. Yeah, no, I'm not. To me, it's, the girl is being weirder than me and my friend are. So, yes, is it a little harsh to say, yo, I've known her way longer than I've known you. Yeah, that's a little harsh. Because what if, see, I always, it's always this simple.

What if she told you that about a guy? You would feel some type of way. If she told you, I've known him longer than. then I've known you. What am I bucking about, though? Because I don't think I would... Who is this guy? I don't think that would come out of my mouth, though.

Who is this guy? Yeah, like, I wouldn't... I don't think I'd ever ask the woman, yo, who's this dude? Well, well, again, back to the, the, the, the, the me picking up my friend's check thing. I'm observant. I'll figure it out. Yeah, but back to me picking up my friend's check thing. Who is this dude that picked up the check? No, now you're adding actions into it.

That's much different. Okay, what action with your lady? be asking about who was this girl? Maybe a comment or a text. Okay, so same thing. That's much different than who just picked up the check for our dinner. Okay, no, but I'm just saying. Same scenario with you and your lady asking who is this,

or you asking the lady who was this guy? So a guy that commented on her pick. Well, one, I wouldn't ask that. So I don't really know how to answer that. I would never ask who is this dude that commented. Oh, yeah, no. I just, I wouldn't even know how to say that without like a, feeling like a.

No, I'm not doing that. Unless it's some... Now, if it's some outlandish comment, like, like, damn, I miss licking that from the back. It's like, wait, hold. Oh. Who is this dude?

But you were just fine with your girl going on a YouTube page talking about how he used to lick it from the back. No, man. He's caught a lot. No, no, no. That's different. No, no, no, no.

It's worse. No, it's not, man. It's way worse. No, man. It's way fucking worse. No, that's not. I'll take the IG comment any day over that.

It's different. If your girl is sitting on a show talking about, oh, one of the co-host that, yeah, she used to talk to the other guy. And it's just strictly for, you know,

whatever that's, you can see what that is. This dude that's leaving a comment. It's like, he's just jumping out of the bush and then he's like, who is this nigga? But that's also mad comment on Instagram.

Oh, no, it is. People just say outlandish shit. Of course. I always give every woman the benefit of the doubt on Instagram with everything.

Like, I'm sure that's just some weird. That's what my comment on Instagram is always the same thing. Just money bags. It doesn't change. Well. And I've gotten questioned about that.

I was going to say, there's been multiple men that have questioned. Yeah. It's been brought up. And women have told me. Why? Remember I came in to our old stomping grounds? And I said a girl, girls do question her about it. Oh, I didn't know that.

You didn't tell me that. No, I did. I just didn't tell you the girl because it was bad at the time. But they're broken up now. so I feel like I can kind of talk about it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't remember this. He had already accused her of sleeping with me and we hadn't.

We were just honestly friends. Then you put the money bags under the photo. Oh, so they thought we were. And he got like really, really upset. Like really upset. That's why I wasn't really joking about it at that time when I told you about it. And I didn't want to say who it was just because I was a bit concerned. Like he was really upset.

And I was like, yeah, you need to get the fuck away from dude because he, I think, is just tapped in the head. Yeah, he was like, oh, it's just some wild podcast orgy going on over there. Like me and you are just tagging her up. And I'm like, yo, get the fuck away from this dude. Mind you, you've never met her ever in your life. I'm about to say I'm nine times out of ten, I've never even met this girl. You have never met her. She is my friend's little sister's friend.

Okay. Like, she's really the homie. And yeah, he just assumed that there was just like this wild eyes wide shut podcast party that she was just going nuts at. and the money bag emoji was the last that was that's all he needed that was the evidence that he needed yes like I knew they were gang banging you yo but what that's what that's what he thought come on fan and then I was kind of offended and I was offended for mall too because mall and I would never fucking grow together that's why you were offended yes we would never are you kidding me I would

wait for him to leave And for her to shower. Yeah. Please, God. And wash thoroughly. Maybe just sit in the bathtub for a while and disinfect. Right. Oh, anyways, with that said.

Yeah, dude, your money bag emojis are terrorizing people's households. That shit is crazy. That's a, like you said, yeah, it's something, your insecurities run way deeper than we can imagine if that bothers you. But what is the percentage on the money bag? What do you mean? We can go light. We can go light.

What's the percentage of? money bag comment ratio to DM from her. You're not DMing first. Well, DMing first. Like, LOL, what does that mean?

Because I know that's what they say. Because women are really bad at flirting. Yeah, there's a new feature that I didn't even know about. Like, you can respond to a comment to the DM. It goes to the DM.

I did not know that either. Yeah, so. Oh, wow. It's like they see the comment and they can reply to it, but it's replied to it

as a direct message. Oh, so you're a fucking assassin. No, I was confused. I didn't know how that was, was happening. But, you know, it was literally just like, it's been, like you said, LOL's, like, what does that mean? That's a way a woman flirts. I know. Like, she thinks she gave you the business with the LOL. Yeah, like, oh, he got to ask for the number. Like, no, it's just

literally like, I like the picture. It's a good shot. That's it. Have you had relations with any woman that was solely based off the first interaction being the money back? No. I don't know. They never made it seem like that was the case you're just approved you need to put out more i do man i need to be more of a hoe out here man i'm sorry i think this summer is your summer that i'm gonna be a hold of summer i think it's i think it's your summer why you say that i feel like anytime women go through breakups they get to get into this i feel like myself again i went through so much turmoil. I lost myself in this relationship.

It can finally be me. I know what's important. I love that. I can probably. I get to hang out with my friends and go where I want, aka go out every night, find some strange dick. Men don't get to have that type of happiness. We don't. But since

we went and we're joking about it, all you weirdos on the internet, everything is fine. Since we went through a man breakup with everything, I feel like you can now get off lines of a weight has been lifted. You left a toxic environment. You finally know who mall is.

And you can have your summer. Okay. If you see that for me, thanks. I do. Okay. Like, I can totally see you at the party talking to Shorty about leaving that toxic environment and like how you finally feel like yourself. A burden is gone.

Yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like 30 pounds lighter. I know what you're trying to call me, but we can't stick it. But it's okay. I know what you're trying to call me, but it's okay. I just want you to have your summer, man. I'm glad to see that for me. I'm glad you see a fun song.

Yeah, you're drinking green juice. Listen, man, got to. Got to keep the green juice. You have a life coach now. I don't have a life coach, Rory. Look at the things you want me to have. Green juice and life coach. I don't have a life coach.

Can we get into life coaches real quick? Just really, really, really quick. Okay, what is a life coach? Break it down for me. Because I might not really understand it. What's the difference in life coach and a therapist? Okay. You know when.

like Mario is really small and he eats the mushroom and he gets bigger. Yes. That's like when someone goes through therapy and then they eat the mushroom and now they're at a life coach.

Oh, okay. Therapist to life coach is like janitor to custodian. It's like, you're just still cleaning shit up. It's just with a different name. You just have more keys. Yeah.

I feel like life coach life coach is like the vegan of therapy. Okay. Like, hey, does everyone know I have a life coach? Okay. You in therapy? No, no, no. They coach my life.

Right. It's like, but wait. Because it's kind of like I went through therapy to kind of figure things out. That's the last boss of the life coach is like just there to like in case I look like I'm slipping and I'm falling off. Wait, hold on. Life coach is the bowser of mental health. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's exactly what it is.

I get it now. I get it. Okay. Okay. So no, I don't have a life coach. Okay. I don't. I do want to start therapy, though.

Have you ever done therapy? It wasn't. I did like one session. I had a session with. Yeah. It takes some time. Yeah, I want to find a therapist and, like, make it, like, a part of, again, mental health is very important, just, like, you know, going to the gym, physical health and things like that.

So to me, it's all part of, it should be a part of your lifestyle. You should definitely work out. You should definitely have a therapist, you know, things like that. No, I agree. For a long time, especially, you know, black men in our community, we frown at the thought of a therapist. Yeah. Because, you know, we've given it this stigma that, oh, I must be crazy. or I don't have control of my life.

I don't have... When in all reality, it's just somebody to just kind of, you know, help you in certain areas where you might not understand why you react to things this way, why you feel this way about certain things. And, you know, it just kind of puts things in a better perspective for you, helps you next time you, and, you know, find yourself in these situations, you know how to mentally handle these things. And I think that we all need that.

I think with therapy being... popular now, which I think is great. I do joke on how it's become trendy the same way water has, and both are very necessary. But I've been in therapy for years. I do want people to be realistic and honest with therapy, because I think with the craze, people that have never been in therapy, go into therapy and think, okay, I'm going to get cured. And it's not the case. It is really how much work you put in is really going to be your result. Like your therapist could be the best therapist on earth, they're not going to go in there and be like, oh, I know what's wrong with you, change this one thing, and now I'm cured. Because I think that's kind of been the mentality

that this therapy craze has caused people that are really going through some shit, and they get into therapy, and they're like, fuck, I thought this was going to cure me in a few months. It takes time and you have to really practice and work on it with your therapist for them to even get the best result out of you. At minimum, and even some of the best results is, this is just someone I can invent you and get an objective opinion on. Right. That's really it. It's not a cure unless you're ready to work on it.

I agree. And how does, um... Oh, Daniel's calling me. Oh, is it? Okay. Hold that thought, though. I will. City boys up.

What's going on? You're live on the air. It'll take your R&B voice off, man. Word. I don't want to talk to the phone with you like that. You guys, man. You're on the air right now? We are.

and we're doing it with the phone next to the mic the old way Oh, that's crazy What's going on what's going on So who was Shorty from From I believed it Who did you believe? It's crazy That's asking me these questions

That I can't answer like that Okay Well, you've had this record for a little while A snippet came out I This was my theory You guys sacrificed yourself and your art

and put out this Lucy because you saw all the women putting out their own toxic records with the summer coming up. And you kamikazeed your own record that you were saving for the betterment of men. I like it.

Yeah. Yeah. I like it. I like that too. I like that too. I like it. That's a great strategy. No, we, I mean,

we've had it definitely for a while. We, we were always kind of waiting on a row. right time, especially with that song. And then, I mean, one thing a lot of people don't know is, you know, Mac actually

passed, I believe, like, maybe three or four days after us getting the final version of that done. Damn. So, like, you know, he recorded. He, in the studio, which, you know, we got this crazy footage of, but he recorded there. He took the record home.

He was like, yeah, I did some more stuff to it. Like, I really wanted. want to, you know, switch some things in the verse and re-recorded, sent it in, and then literally like a day or two later, or two or three days later, you know, it was, you know, it passed. So, you know, putting it out was always, like, we always knew it was going to be, like, a little touchy and just, like, making sure that it's the right time and felt right. And, you know, we really wanted to, to, I guess, just save it for the right, the right time. And now that we're doing a full project with us and Ty, we're like,

yo, let's make sure that that record gets a shine. And, you know, we can do it properly with it. I love that. That's amazing. Rest and peace to Mac. Prayers to his family, too. We definitely miss Matt. Love the record, man.

Love the record, Dan. Is there much more you can tell us on the U and, obviously, 85 as well, and Ty record that you guys are putting together? Definitely soon And I don't mean that in the usual artist soon Right You know we're really like Like the project's done

I'll tell you that like it's done We're finished We're you know we're mixing it And just getting you know A few last pieces together Of just how we're going to roll it out But um Nah it's it's

Man I it's going to be the kind of R&B that I hope everybody is really like been thirsty for where we're like we're taking it we're taking it there it was no real um no real boundary of like how deep into like that actual R&B bag we were going to go um you know ties ties obviously crazy writer performer vocalist whatever um And so when you have somebody like him, just trying to push the boundaries and, you know, us as division, that's always been our thing, too. We really went, you know, straight there with it.

So, you know, if you're an R&B lover, there's going to be a bunch of records on here for you. It's funny because the Mac record is probably the only record that I feel like, you know, our girl's going to, our girl's going to, our girl's going to. really take to this one. The rest of more R&B. Yeah, the rest of it, the rest of it is definitely a bunch of stuff that I see women take it and being like, this is, this is it, this is my joint.

So this was the only one where I'm like, you know, how they're going to feel about it? It's a sample. It's like, you know, hip hop. It's, you know, it's Mac. It's us talking. Super toxic. And I was just like,

you know, let me see if this one actually goes over the way we wanted to, but, you know, so far, so far so good. I listen, we talked before. I don't think it's that toxic. I think, of course you know. I think women, I think women need to finish their sentences when they say they'll never leave us. That's toxic. Like, they need to finish the sentence on what they're going to leave from. Just don't tell me you're never going to leave unless, that's all. Like, put a period at the end of the sentence or don't. Okay. And live by it. You know, the thing is, the thing is, no matter how they leave when they decide to leave, we're always going to feel like,

really? You're going to leave me just like... How could you? Just because I fucked another woman? You know me better than that. You know me better than the things I did. You know, which is... You know me better than the things I did is hilarious.

That better be on the album. That better be the title of the album. You know me better than the things I did. Well, Rory, that would definitely... be an album that you would be championing. Oh, Rory Kim, he wants that out right now. You know me better than that.

You know me better than things are pod. We have been in the strip club together. You know how respectful I am. These are facts. Oh, man. When you back up there? In Atlanta or in L.A. ATL.

Soon, we got to go for the finals just because of content. Yeah. What do you mean? Even if they're not there. Even if Atlanta doesn't make it. Even if they don't make it, we still got to go for content. It's a good place to watch ball from. Yeah.

We'll talk off air about where you'll be because, yeah, we'll be out there soon if you're there. Okay. Okay, cool. And then also, I do have a real actual serious question. When Shorty asked who was that, what did you say? When Shorty asked who was that what in your phone? Yeah. Oh, see, you already paused.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She already smacked you in your face. That's what I'm saying. Like, she already threw the phone of your face. What you are talking about right now? That's never, ever happened to me. You know, but usually if they're looking through my phone, you know, it's obviously going to be a family member or a friend of her.

Yeah, no, you know, what else do I talk to? You know, really, I just, you know, I keep the circle tight. I always keep it low, so. Yeah, you know, Thanksgiving around the corner, so you got to start planning. I get it. You feel me. In July. I thought the best, the best way to reply to that is,

That's a friend of mine that I've known longer than you. Yeah, good luck with that. Good luck with that. Yeah, good luck with that. Yeah, good luck with that. Yeah. All right. But now, appreciate the inside.

I don't know if you've spilled the tea. This is the mall room about the album, but we're excited for the tie in division record. Yeah, we are. And happy birthday, 85. This is yesterday. Yeah, yeah. Shut up my brother, 85, man.

Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Definitely. definitely a big, a big day for him. And, you know, hopefully a big year, you know. We got a lot of things planned. You guys can actually. You guys should try to, I don't know how you guys are moving now with the show.

I've seen you pull up sometimes on people. Sometimes you're just there. But, I mean, if there's a way for you guys to pull up on even us in Thai or something like that before we leave, that'll be crazy. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. We'll figure it out. Yeah, let's definitely do that. That'll be fun.

Okay, cool. We should do it at Magic City. That would be probably the most safe environment. Makes the most sense, yeah. You know what I mean? Security is really good. Yeah. It's great.

You know, the beverages are always on poor. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. I have no idea what Daniel's relationship status is. I don't know if he's single, any of that. I do know that I handed him a stack of ones at the strip club, and he said, I'm okay. I don't think I'll participate in this. So whatever his status is, he's a great guy.

He minds his business. He got dragged to that strip club. Yeah. My guy. He did not participate. Great guy. Stand up guy. My guy.

He smoked hookah in the corner, ate some wings. Lemon peppers. Toad some women, hey, you don't have to do this. I mean, if you want to, it's your choice. But it was letting you know. Right. You don't have to. You don't have to.

Respectable do. Yeah. Stand up guy. That's a pretty accurate account. The funny thing is, I'm actually kind of not lying at all. I did hand him money. He's like, dog, I'm cool. I'm telling you.

I'm telling you. Great guys out here, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. Who knew these R&B guys weren't, weren't full of shit? Moore was good, baby. What's up, man? How you doing? You all right? I'm going to link soon. We're going to link soon. All right. Yeah, I hate you about that. I'll talk to you.

All right, bro. All right, bro. No, that really happened at Magic City. Yeah? You didn't want to participate? I was almost, like, offended. Like, you know, you don't want to have a little fun? You don't want to... Nah, just like, don't take my ones and just say, like, no. Like, no, I'm cool. And mind you, Daniel's probably.

much richer than me. But like, as friends, just gesture like, yo, I just got some things. Because Magic City at that time, I don't know if it's changed with COVID City. With COVID, it was COVID city in there. You could only take out like four hundred dollars at a time no matter who you were. And that's a little annoying. Right. So you have to keep walking. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. But yeah, what were we talking about? You had some really good questions coming. Did I? About what? You did. I said table that. Therapy. You had a question. Oh, um, is your therapist? Is your therapist a white man? No. I've, I've had, And do you think that you should have a therapist that is the same culture?

I think you should have a therapist that has some idea of your... This answer probably shouldn't come from me. It should come from someone that would need someone to understand their culture more. I'm a straight white man. The world is my culture. Like everything, when I walk outside, it's everything is set up for me. But someone that's... been in therapy and how personal, obviously how personal it can get. Yeah, I certainly think you

should have someone that understands your culture. Your culture and even down to like just how you talk because I've had a bunch of different therapists. When I had a younger therapist who was a black woman, just how you say things they may understand. Like if you have someone that's outside of your realm of even age and you say something, a therapist could take it completely wrong. Like me saying, yo she was fucking wilding may hit a little different with like some older person like I'm sorry right and when you're in therapy you want to be really comfortable and be yourself and talk the way you talk and express those feelings the way you can so yeah she's always fine someone that that can meet you at least in the way of understanding how you talk back to the um the thing with what we're

going to interview women that we've both dated have you ever dated a white woman uh dated defined dated have you ever went out with a white girl and had feelings for her and had sexual relations for a period of time? Yes. I want to interview her. I don't know where she is. I wouldn't be against that. Where'd you put the body? That's part of our culture. Once us whites are done, we just murd. All right, this is. Where did you put the body? Don't edit that, man. We're going to have fun in this podcast.

I don't want to be on this uptight podcast where I can't make jokes. Oh, man. But yeah, that's who I want to interview. I want to interview the white girl that Rory dated. Because I know you love the queens. You love the sisters. I know that. But I want to talk to the white woman.

That's why I wanted to ask what dated was because I've never been in a, I haven't been in a lot of serious relationships to begin with. But I haven't been in a serious relationship with a white woman. But I've certainly dated and talked to for a while, white women do. Just whichever one you think is. Yeah, and let me put that out there because I get a bunch of people in my mentions. All you do is fetish-sized people. I'm like, I don't have a fetish.

Yeah. I just like women I like. Yeah. People try to categorize and compartmentalize your decisions. What is the difference between a fetish and a preference? I'm asking. I don't have the answer to this. Yeah, I don't.

Fetish is usually something sexually arousing, I believe. Isn't that a preference, though? Two? Can you, can you Google what the definition of preferences? Because I see people, preferences are fine. Everyone's allowed to have their preference. Preference is a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. That sounds like a fetish.

And a fetish is a form of sexual desire. See, a fetish is usually more sexual. So it's a preference with sex? Well, yeah. Like you prefer this sexually. That's what a fetish would be. Like, I prefer to be tied up or, you know, I'm asking them. I'm not making a point.

I want to learn. It says, we shouldn't, we shouldn't kill people for asking questions. I know Twitter loves to do that. Listen, we have. When someone asks like, hey, man, I don't really know what this means. Can you ask me or pardon, can you tell me what's going on? They fucking kill you. How do the fuck do you not know?

It's like, fam, people should be able to ask questions of information they don't know. I love asking questions. But that's what to see. It says a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.

Okay, so let's not even use me. Because people have been in my mentions saying you fetize black women, and I'm like, we've never met. Right. Like, what the fuck? You're going to tell me what the fuck? That's what the end of that does, though.

So let's not use me. But if, let's say a white dude is only into having sex with Asian women and dating Asian women and marrying Asian women. That's his preference. He likes Asian women. Does he have a fetish?

Is that a fetish? Or does he have a preference? Because it's sex and it's also emotion. Like, I just want to marry this person. Also, I think it's weird to have a preference of just one race. I think that's fucking weird. It can't be a fetish. Okay.

So when it literally like... That can be fetish. Okay. Because it says an abnormal degree to a particular object, women are not objects, obviously. So, no. That's not a fetish. That would be a preference. You prefer Asian women.

You prefer black women. Prefer white women. But if you only date Asian because they're Asian and you'll never look into any other realm, that's the same. This is where we need a woman because this is a bunch of men trying to figure something out. We haven't figured out of it. Men are so fucking dumb. I still don't know what fetishes and I'm reading the definition of it. The fuck?

You know, it's cool. But yeah, I want to sit down with a white woman that you've dated. Because I feel like she's going to tell me about a different world. I got to find the, the beautiful. Buick that I put under the bridge. Oh, yeah. Yeah, just go to the motel, you know, find her. Guys, I'm joking.

I don't think you should murder women and put them in trunks. And I'm aware that that is an issue in the country that we should not be joking about. I fucking understand it. Yeah. Good Lord. It's weird, though. See, that's the difference between me and you. I just want to talk to any woman you've dated.

Any? Just one? That's how difficult it is. That's just because I'm private. So I don't put a lot of my shit out there like women I date. So people want to speak to women Or they want to meet women I've dated because

Yeah, your friends would like to meet the women you date. Yeah. I mean, you've met. I've met one in Detroit And you kept her locked up in the top dressing room And we weren't allowed to talk to her. Look how y'all paint me. That's how y'all paint me like that.

She was a really pretty girl. And she seemed really cool and like had a really cool personality, which is why I was like, why, like, we, the dressing room, like, the green room we have is mad big for all of us. Like, we could all kick it here as friends. Like, why? No, we all had our own dress. We all had, we all had our own dresser.

We all had, that was my dressing room. We all had our own dressing room. I know, but then we also had like, like, the communal dressing room. Yeah, but she wanted to stay in my house. She did, right? Yeah. Right. It's never, well, I'm never, that guy.

First of all, don't pay me as that guy. Like, listen, sit down, don't speak to none of my friends. Don't look at him. I'm never that guy. Never. But she was like, yo, where's your room? You can always tell when a dude has prepped his girl before. Always.

She don't have anything to say. She say hi to you and she don't even look at you. He gave her the, like he told her, listen. No eye contact. Yo, how you met my man? Yeah. We met at Barnes & Noble. Yeah, that's it.

And she don't even give you no more energy. It's like, oh, I'd already know. She's been prepped. Yeah, he don't want her talking to nobody. Like, it's all good. Oh. Well, I actually can't wait to do this. And this isn't going to be one of those things like that two-on-two game or anything.

No. This is something that we're actually... Going to do it. We have to. I think it's going to be fun, man. Daniel bringing up Mac was dope. And I was listening to the Tyler album, and give me a second on how I'm going to correlate these two things.

I was listening to the Tyler album, and it made me feel even more sad about Mac Miller. Why is that? Because Tyler, we've watched start as a really, really young, talented artist where it was like, you're just dope. We don't know exactly how dope. but you make amazing music and you're a fucking child. Like, you're just a kid. And then we started to see both of them branch outside of just rap.

We saw them both. Well, Tyler was always producing. We saw Mac really start picking up a lot of instruments and really changing his sound drastically. Being a really dope rapper, getting in to, I don't even want to say melodic, like straight fucking R&B shit, pop shit. Like, we really saw Mac expand. his sound from that group of rappers at that time. They were around the same time to some degree. Right.

And we're starting to see where that could have went with how dope Tyler has become. And we saw Mack getting into that right before his passing. Right. So with Tyler's last album with Igor, very much like Max was with a feminine album. And then Tyler going back into the rap shit with the gangster grills. We also know Matt comes from the school of hip hop. Right. And they're both extremely good at that.

Tyler won one album of the year, right? For Igor, I believe so. Don't quote me. Rap album of the year? Or was it album of the year? It should have been album of the year. Regardless, it should have been album of the year. Because that was the best album of that year, by far.

Igor is a fucking masterpiece. Rap album, which is weird because it's not even a rap album. But that should have been album. That should have been album of the year. Igor is a fucking masterpiece. But yeah, I was listening to the Tyler album And I found myself thinking about Mac Like it made me really sad that we just

Outside of the obvious and his family And people that were really close to him And from what I've understood from one degree of separation He was just a great dude to begin with But we just saw him like really starting to get into the artist He could have been. He wasn't just some kid from Pittsburgh that could rap Like that was a fucking musician

Right The same way Tyler is a fucking musician Like they're going to change music They're not they started out as rappers because that's just what the genre that was there when they were kids that they loved. So yeah, I was listening to this

Tyler album, called me if you get lost, which by the way is one of my favorite album titles ever. That's such a great album title. That's just a great title for it. That could be a restaurant. Exactly. That's a great afterspot, like a diner.

Exactly. I'm listening to how dope this is and I'm like, fuck, like this was the route. Mac, I'm not saying it would have sounded the same, but just that route of, expanding their artistry from a producer standpoint, from a rapper standpoint,

from a singer standpoint, from a writer standpoint, that was Mack to me too. Like, music lost one of them with Mac. Yeah, we spoke on that when Mac passed, it was unfortunate because he was one of those artists that we saw getting better every time we heard him,

every time we saw him, it was elevation artistically. He was just, you know, hitting his stride away. It was like, oh, shit, like a lot of people didn't even know Mac, you know, sing and, you know, played instruments and things like that. You started seeing, like, some of his artistic talents, and it was like, now it's gone. Yeah. So it was unfortunate.

But I do understand what you mean about. I just seeing artists from a young age, maneuver their way through the industry, go through things, you know, maneuver around obstacles, and then find their point where they're like, okay, this is who I am as an artist. And they grow and they evolve in that. And then, you know, before you get that full picture, in that full optic it's like it's taken away so I definitely agree it's unfortunate um you know we we spoke about it before how you know it just it definitely like shook us because it was this was somebody we looked at and was like yo he's dope and people that followed him knew he was dope for years and you finally seen him getting that recognition on a a bigger scale like okay he's really

being accepted and people are really catching on to this to this artistic and talented talented guy and it's just unfortunate that he was he was taken you know before we could really see that yeah sure man rest in peace mac and i don't want to take away from the review of of call me if you get lost because you know that's that's a whole separate masterpiece over there too but i did want to make that note because i was thinking about mac through that entire album for some reason but no this tyler album off igore two kind of was a flex to me yeah i mean i mean i mean i mean Igor being one of, and people know me to be more of the R&B head and whatever, but I'm still a hip-hop baby at the end of the day.

I love just people rapping. So to go off Igor and then come back with just some gangsta grill drama talking of shit and you rapping, rapping. Just to show it that he's still in tune. I could still do this type of shit and then do it at this level with this type of production. And it was dope to see someone like really make an album with drama because drama mixstates and why they were so dope, I don't want to take away from it. But it was always, I'll do the mixtape.

And I know drama had his hand of that. But just yell over it once it's done. Like, start in the beginning. There'll be little adlives, talk your shit at the end. Like, I don't know this to be a fact. But I could hear when Tyler was like, I'm going to stop rapping right here. You talk for four bars right here.

I'm going to come right back in. Like, they literally put that together. And that was a different sound for the gangster real shit to me. It wasn't. Let me yell in the beginning. beginning, let me throw my ad libs on, and keep it pushing. Like, he was very much a vocalist on this album the way Tyler was. Like, he filled in his spots. He was featured on every record. It made the record every time. Right. So, yeah, I get why Tyler, when it was done, was with

drama, like, we're done with this album. Like, this wasn't, I finished it, yell. No, they, they were together. They talked about the records. They actually produced the records together. And you can hear it. You know what I mean? Like I think a lot of the times with people do albums and collabs with people on records and you can feel that, okay, they weren't in the same studio. They just, you know, text each other and sent the beat and they sent the, you can feel that.

You can kind of feel when it's just, you know, we got together for the names and the clicks. Like, we know if they just see our names together on a record, they're going to stream it. And then you can hear when people actually got together and sat down and created a vibe and energy around the record and actually the record is just the culmination of everything that they did leading up to that it was okay we filled this record we understand what happened no this was good and and i liked to hear tyler talk his shit the same way when he was a kid and was doing interviews where he was the underground sensation and everyone was like yo do it for the underground

and Tyler i distinctly remember his interview i don't know who he did it with he's sitting in a hotel lobby and he's saying yo I don't care about the underground like dog I want awards I want to be a superstar I want to take my music as far as it can fucking go I don't want to be this underground dude that y'all keep trying to make me become I appreciate my fans now not trying to be that right he's stuck to it yeah still making the music he wants to make and he sells more every single time as a number one album that's a foot and then him talking his shit from his festival shit own his entire company, the merch shit he's been doing.

Tyler is who a lot of rappers claim they are. Oh yeah. Tyler is exactly what most of these rappers rap about as far as being a businessman owning they shit, starting trends,

having a real fan base, tours, artists, actual fashion. He's really doing it. He's really who rappers rap about. Yeah, yeah. And he just don't get it

because he's kind of the quote unquote weirder dude in rap. Yeah, and he's trolled a lot. in his career he's fucking great at it he said some some some some some some things in his music where it's like uh like he threw me off with that bar but okay um even the flex freestyle you know it's things like that where i know he was trolling in that but i but i enjoyed that i like troll i like trolling with meaning behind it yeah i don't know if that makes me sound like a hipster but i know

it does i do like trolling with meaning because when tyler does that he's trying to make old heads that thought gay shit was so weird uncomfortable right like dog it's not it's not that weird It's totally fine. It's okay. When we sat down with Belly, he said something interesting about Kanye. And I kind of thought about Tyler when he said it as well. He said Kanye is our culture's Andy Kaufman. Yes, he did say that. Belly said that.

And that was really interesting to me when he said that. But I also thought about Tyler. Tyler's not as, I want to say, I want to say extreme, but he's not as much as. I think much as Kanye is, because like I tell people all the time, when Kanye came into the game to me, he was strolling with the two polo shirts. That was a troll to me. The backpacker with a Louis Vuitton backpack. Like, you're a backpack rapper with a Louis Vuitton backpack. It's like, you know what I mean?

Things like that is a little trollish to me. Meanwhile, Black Moon was backpack rappers, except they had guns in their backpacks. Right. You see what I'm saying? So that's what I'm saying. It's kind of like, but it was very interesting when he said that. And I think it made a lot. It was spot on.

I think that made a lot of sense. but I also thought about Tyler. Tyler, I think, is a little more grounded than Andy Kaufman. I think Tyler, as much as he shows, he's like this crazy. Well, that was more younger, Tyler, like this crazy, outlandish person, which I don't really think he is. I think he's extreme. I think he's one of the more calculated people. Absolutely.

I think every decision he makes has thought to it. So I think Kanye is more in the Kaufman space of Tyler's a very grounded dude. And with, and that's what I said. It's not as extreme. And I don't know him. I'm just. No, no, we're just going off of. what we can see and what we know.

But that was spot on to me. I think Kanye is, but I also thought about Tyler in that same breath. Listen, man, he's on his way to legend status, in my opinion. And I don't care if you think I'm a weirdo for that. No, no, he's a legend. It's not no on his way. Tyler, the creator, is a legend in a culture, without a doubt.

No, shout out to Tyler. Call me if you get lost. It's a great album. I know we're being queued to get the fuck out of here. maybe we table this, but I did the entire time I was listening to the Wilshire record, all I was thinking was I want to know Mall's opinion on this. The Wilshire record? For those that haven't listened, the Wilshire record is about Tyler.

It's a phenomenal fucking record. Probably one of my favorites off of this project. Tyler meets a girl that is fucking with his friend and begins to like her to the point that he even invites his friend around so she can be around. And then he starts fucking with her. while he's still cool with his man's. And then says the line, you know, I'd rather a handhold than a fist pump or whatever the fuck.

It was a dope bar to everyone that says, you can't fuck your man's crowd. That's what you got out of that. That's fucking sick. I just thought the way it was like, oh, that's a fly excuse. I would rather a handhold from a girl than a fist pump from my man's here. Any fucking day of the week.

Are you kidding me? You think if you called me like, yo, I'm at the spot versus with a girl. I'm going with her. I'm not coming to see you, Rory. I'm not coming down. But it's a little different when you talk about your man's girl. Yeah, no, no, that he went a little, great record.

It's art. I get it, but it's like. No, and he got into it, though. We can table this. Yeah. Because this is, I don't want to do another lyrical breakdown. And this record's like fucking 10 minutes long. Yeah.

Great record, though. Which I think he said he did in two takes and didn't write it down, which is crazy. And I believe him. Yeah. This deserves a deep dive in psychology. We can get it to it next week. Because he started by like minute seven. I started to feel him.

I was like, I mean, was that really your friend? You start questioning their status. Like, yo, I don't really think y'all fucked with each other like that. Like, but that's how it go, though. You start looking for little things like, yo, y'all don't even really like each other like that. Nowhere in the song has he really gotten into how cool he is with that dude. Yeah. Like, it sounds like an associate to me.

I think he could still beat. Now I got to go back and really dig into the record and really like catch the lines. Like, okay. But yeah, this is a great record. One of the best records on our house. Let's table this conversation. And so far, we've been good at. remembering to bring conversations back.

So, Wilshire, we will go back through that. And we'll be back on Wilshire soon. That is a fact. We do need to travel, especially to Atlanta. Especially to Atlanta. Sports, Chris Paul, congrats. Love that. I'm rooting for-

for Chris. By the way. I'm happy for him. I'm happy for Monty Williams. I picked, you know, once CoI went out, I picked Phoenix to go all the way. and win the championship, I felt like, like I said, I only feel like Kauai, Kady, LeBron, and Steph Curry are the guys that are playing for championships now in the league.

Well, not playing for them, but that are the favorites to win it. But yeah, I'm hoping Chris Paul and I close it out. Hope everybody stays healthy, no injuries, please. I don't want to see anybody else get hurt. I just don't think Atlanta or Milwaukee have enough to compete with the Sons. I just think the sons are in the zone. And, you know, they have one of the best leaders in Chris Paul, one of the best players in Devin Booker,

one of the best big men and DeAndre Aiton and a bunch of great role players and young players that just hungry and just play hard. So it's hard to beat a team like that. I do like Atlanta. If Tray Young gets healthy, I think that would just be fun to watch to see Tray Young and Devin Booker and Chris Paul on the floor together. I think that would be fun. But I don't see any of the teams remaining beating Phoenix.

I don't see it. So congrats to the sons for making it to the finals. Congrats to Chris Paul. I just want to see Chris Paul. Yeah, Chris Paul has been my favorite. I used to have arguments back in mid-2000s about who was better between him and Darren Williams. I always picked Chris Paul. Everybody just laughed at me and said, and Darren might have been a better player at the time.

But I always just like Chris Paul's game more than Darren Williams. So a lot of people reached out to me last night and it was like your boy finally in the finals and I was like yeah I'm just happy to see that moment like he's one of the players

I think that deserved that opportunity to win the championship so it's just good he's always been hurt and the playoffs you know when they had the clippers were favored

a couple years he got hurt Blake got hurt you know it was just like it's always something so to see him finally at this point where it's like he's here

he's healthy he's gonna play It's just it's good to see So shout out to Chris Paul, man Yeah, I think that shit is not to be too deep A metaphor for fucking life Who would have thought that Chris Paul with all the teams He was on and in his prime

Would go to the finals At the end of his career with the Phoenix Suns Right Like if you would have told someone that they would have said no Exactly Like listen man Sometimes you gotta be patient And like sometimes shit takes time

It takes time It takes time But when you stay solid You stay solid See that's the thing Chris Paul has always been consistent. He's always been a solid player, a leader. Like he's been, he's never wavered from the guy or the player that he is.

You know what I mean? So that's a lesson in it. Stay solid, stay down and your opportunity will come. And it's just, I think it's dope that he beat the Lakers and the Clippers in L.A. It's crazy. I think that's just like amazing. So shout out to Christmas. Most players probably with Chris Paul's career could have retired by now and would have been

Hall of Fame of Flake Fond. He's a Hall of Fame without a ring or not. The fact that you're like, nah, I'm still doing, fuck that. I'm going to Phoenix. Yeah, with the without a ring, he's a Hall of Famer. So, this is just like the. Sometimes you guys just keep going. Yeah, no.

Even if it looks weird. Like, I'm going to Phoenix. And I just keep going. He's still playing at a high level. Yeah. Like, he's not just out there just, you know. Ballin. Yeah, he's like 40 piece with no turnovers, eight assists.

It's like, okay, you, you're still in shape. You're still out here really getting it done. So shout out to them, man. Shout out to Devin book. Shout out to Chris Paul, Monty Williams. Prayers for Biz Markey. Yes. His family put out a statement.

Biz Markey is alive. He's surrounded by medical experts from what his family says. So just prayers to Biz and his family. Hope everything works out in that capacity. Let's see. So we can wrap up since we're leaving Soprano's trailer. Saw it. Looks crazy.

Liked it. Looks really crazy. I was told that it was a bit misleading. that it is more about Dickie Maltesanti than it is about Young Tony Soprano and the entire trailer was Young Tony Soprano but I'm excited either way. Bill Cosby, you're still a nasty fuck.

But wait, wait, why is you? Listen, man, I'm just calling it like it is. Oh, man. Yeah, and I think we'll save the Norie Beans thing for next week. I do like that little thing that rappers are doing where they're calling each other out via social media I like it.

Playing their bars and their records. I like that. That's what, to me, that's what you use social media for, that type of shit. I like it. I like that. Shout out to all of the dudes that's been getting involved. One of my favorite rappers, Royce, Lupe, Ransom. Mickey Fax.

Mickey Facts. Shout out to Mickey. I've seen Conway and Jim getting into something. All competitive, though. Oh, no. They're friends. That's what I like. I like the fact that it's all competitive.

It's all about, like, can you outwrap? me. Yeah, and even show me. Royce posted a... And I'll be, just being honest, I love Jim, but I don't think it's nobody out rapping Conway right now. I don't, me personally, I don't think that there's anything outwrap Conway. But if it is record versus record... Oh, Jim has record. Jimmy is a solid competitor. No, we're talking about, if we talk about record. Conway, we know Conway is an alien.

Yeah. Conway is one of the best rappers ever. Fuck this generation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Conway is one of the best rappers ever. Right. But Jim when he's saying, because I think Conway said post whatever year Griselda started, so it is fair in that capacity. Yeah. They didn't say just bars.

Like, they were saying records. Yeah. No, Jim is a tough. But we give Jim his flowers. We've been doing that. Jim's last three, four albums? Really, really. Tough to compete with.

Really, really good. Really good. Really, really good. But no, I love that. I love when rapping is competitive and not violent. But yeah, that's about it. Ben, are you got anything? No.

How do we do it? Like, subscribe, follow. Yeah. Curse us out. Do all that shit. And hate mail. All of it. Just make sure you do it in the comment section.

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That's a terrible name. Yeah. I mean, what do you want, man? We're figuring this thing out. But yeah, follow, like, subscribe, stream, repost, curse us out. Do all that shit. Watch. the ads.

Watch the ads. You ain't doing nothing else. You're sitting on the couch with your feet stinking. Yeah. We got some shit. Hopefully next week is done and edited. I guess that depends on the artist. Some more shit coming.

Yeah. Some more sketches coming. Yeah, shit is in the can chilling. Yeah. Just got to wait for the right time to put it out, which I hate. But that's life, unfortunately. But there's some shit chilling. Yeah.

So we out. We'll be back next week. Go do that. All right, man, I'm done with you. That's enough of the day. You had too much of me? Yeah, too much, man. Listen, you want to hang out with white people.

This is what happens. This is what happens? Oh, man. Shit. We never know when to go home. Right. All right. Everyone have a good weekend or weekend.

Oh, 4th of July, stay safe. Holiday weekends are always weird. So just be safe. I'm serious. We got Juneteenth night. We don't care about 4th of July. Oh, I agree. I just, it doesn't matter.

It could be Arbor Day for some reason. Holidays just bring compromising situations out. So be safe, be safe. And yeah. Peace and love. We out. Stay away from the swine. On the Look Back at it podcast.

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