New Rory & MAL - Season 1 | Episode 4 | "Kashius Clay"

Episode Date: July 9, 2021

Check out the "Zodiac Killer" sketch now on our YouTube page. Rory & MAL sit down to discuss Rory's Doja Cat 4th of July confession, women being too prepared for male guests to sleep over, The Legend of Desaun, new music, NORE calls in to talk Beans vs Nore, and more!! Like, Comment, & Subscribe! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You know, you want some cancer and some coffee. Yeah, man. You know what I mean? Go to 7-Eleven. 24 hours whenever you need it. Yeah, man. What did you think of our sketch? I liked it, man.

I liked it. I think that, you know, it was, it was informative. It was realistic. I could definitely see an evening out with a young lady going like that. It was a love letter to zodiac signs. Okay. And how much I hate them. You hate zodiac signs?

That actually happened. You hate zodiac signs or do you hate people that overly lean into the zodiac horoscope shit? If they, I don't like people. Because if you say you hate zodiac sign you say you hate people. Well, no, that is a fact.

Okay. I just don't like when people lean into them as an excuse for like their shitty behavior. That's what I don't like. Do I think there's probably some truth in the stars and when you're born and all that shit?

Probably. What the fuck do I know? It's something. There's some similarities there. But anytime like someone will have a shitty quality about them, it's like, that's my Libra sign rising. Yeah, Mercury's a retrograde.

That's why I'm having a shitty behaviorizing. No, it's just you. No, you're just a dirt bag. Just to admit it. Yeah, I don't, I'm never really lean into that. A young lady years ago told me to read the Barnum effect. Okay, what is that? The Barnum effect, from what I've read, it basically gives you the, it's basically saying like every, every horoscope or every person has similar.

no matter when you were born. I think that's what I kind of, yeah, Barnum effect also called the for effect in psychology. The phenomenon occurs when individuals believe that personally descriptions apply specifically to them more so than to other people, despite the fact that the description is actually filled with information that applies to everyone. But that's what I feel. And again, people that really know about Zodiac signs,

I'm not talking about y'all that really understand the shit and study it. I'm talking more about like Twitter that says the most basic shit in the world. Right. That could be anybody. Right. I believe more, I think I'm more into numerology. I agree with you. But I think they're kind of connected. They're kind of connected. But I think numerology is more, it, for me, it was more believable. Like, oh, shit. You know what I mean? Like, somebody asked you the time you're born and this and that and doing the numbers and oh, this is, this type of person usually like this type of attitude and energy. I'm like, okay, this is kind of, this is a little different than just the horoscope and the zodiac. This feels a little more.

personal. Do you think hereditary in like where you were raised, the time you were raised, like the years has more effect than the stars? I think it's all connected somehow, honestly. In some way, I'm not, you know, I'm not the smartest guy in the room, but I think it's all connected in some way. I think definitely the time, the year, the, you know, the generation

in which you were born and stuff like that. I think it definitely is connected with the stars and things like that. Yeah, I just think hereditary shit is more of a factor when it comes to that type of shit. That's just me. Yeah. I hope people enjoy the sketch and I don't get it. It was good, man.

It was good. The young lady did a great job. Yes. Yes, I'll put her at name in the thing. And she did a really good job. He did a really good job. Well, she's actually like an actress. Yeah.

So. Well, you can tell. She has that. Yeah. I'm just an idiot that has Microsoft. You did a good job. I got to give you. You did a good job.

You did a good job, man. You did a good job on that. I did a good job. I think the best line of the entire thing is you smell like regret. I mean, you know, sometimes you got to let your people's know when they, you know what they've been doing. You know when people smell like the night before. Oh, yeah. You know when you smell like it.

Yeah, you can smell it. You know, yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. You still's got that club after party smell on you. What's the longest after you spent a night out at a young lady's house before you went home? How many hours? Man, I've spent the night at a young lady's. house, I might have did it. I might have did a double. Not that I think about it. I think I think I went to

her house on a Friday and I might have left and went home like Sunday morning. Oh, you were, it was some good cuddles. Yeah, yeah. But it was the type where it's like, you know, I'm walking around like in like just a towel. Yeah. Like showering. Like she had the good shit in her. That's one thing you got is just unappreciated. Like when a woman has like the good shit in her shower, like the good body washed, the good shampoo and conditioner, you know what I mean? Like, that's like underrated. Oh, no. How I learned about all like real proper hygiene and like extra pool products and shit came

from like sleeping with women. Like I was in the shower like, what? Let me take a picture of this shit. I'm getting this from my crib. Yeah, like I got to upgrade my fucking shower. My lotion does not smell like this. Yeah, yeah. She had extra toothbrushes.

I was like, what is this? Shortstay? Like, what is it? And then you got to kind of think like how many. That's what I want to ask you. Yeah, because you look at that toothbrush. pack you like, all right, this is a four pack. It's two left, fam.

Like, you know what I'm saying? And it's not the brand she uses. No, she has an electric toothbrush. So you know that's not her using that shit. So you got to kind of like, all right, man. Like, you know, it is what it is. She's resourceful, so we appreciate that. Would you ever admit that you maybe have taken a pair of shorts

from a woman, a pair of basketball shorts that clearly weren't her size? No, I have way too much pride for that. I can't. I'm not taking it. First of all, if she pulls out some basketball shorts, and hand them to me, I'm gonna look at her like, all right, listen, we gotta have a deeper talk.

What if she just gave you a big t-shirts of sleeping? First of all. Yo, a man sleeping in a long t-shirt. Holy shit. Yo, you'd be happy your ass out like you're in a hospital gal. You can't sleep in no fucking long. Hey, men can't sleep in long t-shirt. Matter of fact, if you're a man and you put on your shirt

before your drawers. Yeah, that's, yeah. All the men in your family are rolling in their grades. You have to start from, like, the first thing you put on after you shower, or yourself has to be your underwear. Draws for sure. Yeah, like, you can't just be walking around willy-nilly just like, put your drawers on, then you go to the socks.

Fair, you are a sick dude. When you get dressed, you put your shirt on first. Yeah, I know, I got a cousin that he gets fully dressed in the bathroom. I mean, was he in jail? No. Is that a habit? He's never committed a crime in his life. He just gets dressed.

I'm talking about jeans, sneakers, everything. That's sick. It's too hot in the bathroom to get dressed. Why are you? Like, what is that about? I'm talking about he come out the bathroom fully dressed ready to go. I'm like, all right, fam, you're just a weirdo. That's some jail or summer camp shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, man, you can't. A woman gives you, like, something to sleep in. As a man, I got too much profit. A woman can't give me nothing. Well, what happens if she has on the basketball shorts? Did your mind wander? Of course.

And what if they're, like, official practice shorts? Yeah, because there's a difference from game shorts. that you can just buy online or at the NBA store. And then game practice shorts is like, okay, you know somebody that knows somebody. And like, where did you get the official socks? Well, the official socks you can probably still get on the NBA.com. Oh, shorty's going on NBA.com to buy our socks. That's what she's doing?

I mean, if she says it, you can't, they're on there. They're on the site. So you can't. But the practice shorts are not on the site. That you have to know somebody on the team that works on the staff. Like, yeah. That's a fact. That's a fact.

But, yeah, I appreciate women that, you know, you can, you know, you can spend a night at their house if you don't have any of your toiletries or, you know, and the ones that have, like, wash you and dry it would, like, wash your underwear for you. And like, oh, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, my God. Like, who are? I love you already. Like, you know what I mean? It's makes me nervous. It just makes me nervous, though. She's too good at this. But you got my insecurity. After a certain age, man, it's like, listen, man. I'm experienced. I keep the whole bag in my car. There's always clean drawers in my car. But you learned that from a woman, too, though. Of course. That was the first, I didn't know, I never, the first time I saw a hoe bag, well, obviously, I don't want to call women hoe, but that's why we call it a whole bag. Men carry their whole bag for them. You're doing whole shit. Whoever has the bag is the hoe.

Yeah, but you're doing whole shit, men or women. But I learned it from a woman. Yeah. And she told me like, yo, can you go in my bag and, you know, bring my sneakers? So I go in the bag, but I'm talking about it's late. It's beautiful. I thought she was going away. It was like, everything was folded.

It was the tall tree bag was there. It was like, oh, this is, you're prepared. But were y'all prepared? to that, was there a conversation that she was sleeping over? Was this a woman you met and she just happened to have everything ready? Like, you travel with Crest? Yeah, there wasn't a common. You brought Crest to Griffin? Yeah. No, no, no. It wasn't a conversation, but she lived far. Okay. And, you know, we were hanging out. We were going out. She was going to be drinking. So you kind of, as a dealt, you kind of know that I'm prepared to stay here tonight. I'm not

prepared to go home. You know, as adults, you just, you don't even have to have that conversation. It's kind of like she knows me, we know each other, we're comfortable with each other, and, you know, she can spend a night here if she wants, like, it's all good. Were you intending on staying for one night when you stayed for the two? I know, I intended to leave the next day, but, yo, the breakfast was so immaculate. The spread. It was like, it was like food and the pussy. Oh, come on. But it was like the food and the fruit, like when they sliced the fruit a certain way, Like I never had strawberries and oranges sliced like that.

She sliced the grapes. You ever had sliced grapes? No. I wasn't going anywhere. I've never had sliced grapes in my life. Are you kidding me? Sliced grapes? I'm not leaving here.

So you don't drink. I drink wine occasionally. Okay, but at some point you drank a little bit. Absolutely. That's why I stopped. When you're drunk and go to a woman's house, you tolerate a lot of things that night that you typically wouldn't tolerate. Oh, she doesn't even have AC.

Like, her roommate, this bathroom is disgusting. She has a roommate that's literally sleeping right here. It's just nasty. If a woman has a nasty bathroom, I leave. I can't. That says a lot. That says a lot. That says a lot. When you're a little intoxicated, you put up with those things. It's that

coming to age moment when you wake up sober and really start understanding your surroundings that makes you want to stop drinking completely. But no, that was a accidental conversation. Yeah. July 4th.

Did you do anything? July 4th. Yeah, I met up with some of the homies that I haven't seen in a while uptown. I had no plans on, I had plans on being out of town. Actually, I was going to go see my family down south. But I stayed. I met up with some of the homies that I haven't seen in a while. And it was dope, man, because you know when you don't plan on doing something and then

it kind of like just happens. And then you're like, damn, this, I'm glad I, you know, I did this. I'm glad I went here and I got it with the homies. I had a real interesting conversation, man, one of the homies. And, you know, unfortunately he had been through some things. He had committed a crime years ago. He did a lot of time for it. He killed somebody.

Oh, wow. And the situation was unfortunate. You know what I mean? You know, growing up in the hood and the streets, you get involved in things, sometimes things happen. there's actions, there's reactions, you know what I mean, and there's consequences. But his perspective was so interesting, man. Like he really feels like that moment was necessary in his life.

Like he feels like that changed him and made him the person that he is today. And if you meet this, you would never think like very, you know, well-spoken, soft-spoken, humble energy about him. And you would never think that he'd been through something as traumatic. is that because it is a traumatic experience for for anybody involved in that type of situation. But, you know, he really said, like, you know, I feel like that I had to go through that in order to become the man that I am today and the person that I am today as unfortunate as it sounds. Yeah.

And, you know, and hearing that from somebody that you know, you know, to me there's very few things that are more traumatizing than, you know, somebody being killed. That would be number one. Right. So to be in that situation and then to look at it and assess years later like, you know, the way he did and the way he feels like that really is the one thing in life that he knows was his crossroad. It turned him into the person and the man that he is today. It was just, it was just, you know, I want to say it was a life-changing thing for me because at times, you know, we all go through our things in life and we have, you know, emotions and feelings and thoughts. but to see somebody that went through something like that and their perspective on it and how it changed them and how

you know, in a crazy way it helped them. It was like, damn, man. Like, you just never know in life like, you know, what happens. And I say that to say, like, I had no intentions on going uptown and I didn't think I was going to see them.

I haven't seen them in years. And I was like, you know, I just called. And I was like, what's y'all doing? Yeah, we're on a block and cooking out. I said, I'm going to come over there. And I'm glad I did, man. Like, I'm glad I did. That, I felt really good, you know, seeing a lot of my friends that I haven't seen in a while and a lot of the homies.

But we got to stop this fireworks shit, man. I say that to say, you know, I... With all that said. Yeah, because, like, the homies sitting there telling me about, you know, because like I said, he had, he did a lot of time in jail, you know, I haven't seen them, you know, so it was like, now that we outside and, you know, these fireworks are going off. And I'm just like, my head is on a swivel. Yeah. Because I don't know it's a firework.

I don't know what's, you know, a gun. And it's like, am I the only when it feels like this shit hasn't stopped since,

you remember when we, the pandemic first started and like everyone had fireworks. Yeah. I feel like what the, the fireworks have fireworks. I feel like,

once you set the firework off, I feel like that shit blows up and then like, it's more fireworks that come after that from the fireworks. I just, does anyone get exhausted?

Like, they go literally the entire night. How much are the whole months? How much are they? They have to be giving them out. These are PPP fireworks, bro. These are like, these are scammer fireworks. These are fireworks that are definitely scammed.

These are stolen fireworks. And I am ready to call the police, man. I'm not going to lie. Like, I am ready to have individuals put away. No, it just, it turned into that guy. Yeah, man. It's like, it's going to hold of the community. It's five in the morning, fan.

What are we celebrating? I thought we were done with the Fourth of July, actually. Listen, it was so sick in Jersey City because it rained like right before July 4th and, you know, there was pockets of rain going on. Yeah. They were lighting the fireworks in the rain. Like, go inside. Yeah. Go inside. No, no, no. It's no. I'm telling you, these, I think the fireworks set themselves off at this point. You don't even see people doing it. No, you don't. You just hear it. You just see the, they exist. Nobody is near these fireworks. I'm like, yo, what is going on out of? Yeah. And it's like nonstop from the time people get up

and get outside until they, they don't even have to be. And they don't even have to be. And, Inside. The fireworks are going off by themselves. This shit is crazy. It needs to stop. And I'm calling the authorities. I'm letting you know now. I'm calling the authorities. If you see something, say something. If you see something, say something. You see a Roman candle. You will be handled. What are we celebrate? If you just tell me what we're celebrating like before like Juneteenth and like after the fourth. Just tell me what we're celebrating. Well, we're celebrating the red, white, and blue. This beautiful. country of America. Red, white, blue. And the freedom that was. The colors that never run. The freedom. Remember when you learned that?

The colors that never run. No, they run. No, we've been running. Yes. We've been running. We've actually been running. I mean, yeah, no, July 4th, we celebrate the freedom of all people in America, no. Oh, okay.

Got it. Is that what the holidays for? No idea. I'm just telling you, these are scammers with these fireworks. I'm talking about niggas have unlimited fire. I'm talking about from January to December, there are fireworks going off. Well, do you remember last 4th of July or the one before that?

There really were, like, accusations and conspiracy theories. Like, they were finding, people taking pictures, just finding stacks of fireworks in the hood. I believe it. And I was like, oh, the cops are putting these shit out here. I believe it, fam. This is crazy. I've never heard fireworks like this. Yeah.

This shit is crazy. It's a little excessive. I'm pulling authorities, man. I have to. Enough is enough, damn it. It's scaring Basley. That's really what's happening. And that's another thing.

Like, a lot of people's dogs are, you know, dying from stress. and anxiety. It's just like, I get it. I'm, you know, I'm not, I get it. If it's around holidays, you know. But niggas is blasting fireworks if Booker makes a jump shot. It's just like, you know, it doesn't matter what's going on. Oh, it's not a Fourth of July thing.

It's a summer thing. Yeah, it's like, come on, enough is enough, man. Like, have fun, but God damn. Is this a safe space? Can I tell you what I did on July 4th? This isn't safe. Yeah, it feels safe. It feels safe.

So I can't admit what I did on July 4th. Absolutely. It's just a, not only. am I going to admit it. I'm going to admit that I enjoyed it to. Okay. I went to a Doja Cat concert. Okay. And I danced. Wow. Wow. Look at you. And I danced.

Who are you become? I danced the night away. First of all, don't ever look a man in his eyes. I danced the night away. Okay. Around a community that likes to dance, aka gay people. Let's not get it. It's not the political correct podcast. Right. Gay people love to dance. Love it. And you know what they also love? What? When straight people dance with them.

Oh, yeah. There's not, there's nothing, there's not a warmer community on earth than the gay community. They just want, they're the nicest people on planet earth. They just want everyone to be happy. Do it. Just be happy. We were jumping up and down like we were teenagers again. Okay.

And then I realized halfway through to myself, I know a lot of Doja Cat songs. Yeah. She's, she's, she's, I was like, wait, she does this one too? Fam, I didn't know one of her records was her record and I was like, oh shit I always knew Doja Cat was dope But when the artist sneaks a record in that you didn't know was theirs And it's fire you're like damn like okay she really got some records Yeah

It was great Yeah no I like I mean granted I understand that she was in racist chats Showing Feet or whatever happened I get it in that yeah Whatever Norie said Yeah showing feet That was was that a Norie tweet I think That was the funniest she was in racist chat showing feet

Get your black ass feet out of the camera What were they saying? I want to know. That's fucking nuts. Well, yeah, if you guys cancel me for liking Doja Cat, I'm sorry. I don't know much about this woman except I didn't realize how many songs I did know. She has a lot of records. And granted, it was a day party prior to, and I was actually planning on leaving before Doja Cat performed to go somewhere else.

But it was just a cool, cool vibe there. The Doucet was going. And then when she came on and did that little Cizzer number that she has. Yeah, did that jazz? he little too. We're staying. Yeah. Yeah. We're staying.

I saw some people at that. That was in, was that in Brooklyn? It was. It was at Coney Island Art Walls. Okay, yeah. Lenny hosted it. Shout out to Lenny. It was a really, really good event.

It was a lot of fun. I just, you know, I had to admit that. No, listen. I was shaking my rump to Doja Cat with fireworks in the background. If I would have bumped into you and saw you doing that, I would have been concerned. But now that you said it and admit it, it's fine. And it was amazing. I felt like.

I could escape because, I mean, I thought we had a pretty diverse fan base. That group doesn't really listen to our podcast. So, like, I could dance without the fear of a fan going, yo, fuck that shit off. Oh, okay, yeah. I could be myself. You were in a safe space. You could let your hair down. You could be yourself.

Yeah, man. Listen, Doja Cat. Coney Island. Good weather. Beautiful. July 4th. Dance, man. I double park my car because that's, that's. That's how short I thought I was going to stay.

Listen, you end up staying all night. I was there. I closed it out with Doja. You closed the sale? I closed the whole shit down. But why do guys, why do we, when did that become a thing? Like, why don't we dance anymore? And I'm not saying men have to bust out in roots.

Because doing routines like, it's just weird. Don't do that. But it's nothing. That's fun routines. I bet not ever. I was a CAPA. I can't, why, what? I am a CAPA.

Listen. But that's different, though. I was moving my shoulders in line with a bunch of other men at the same But if we're in a club... Why, we were squatting down. Yeah, but if we're in a club and you start doing, like, routines, I'm gonna tap you like, bro, you can dance, but you gotta stop doing like a routine.

But isn't that y'all era? No. Like, doing routines and dancing and shit? No. All right. No. I thought that was like, y'all was killing the 80s like that. I never, no.

First of all, how old do you think I... You thought I was, like, out in the club in the 80s? Yeah, dude. No. Yeah, I think that's wrong with you, man. No, like, we definitely did, like, dances, like, oh, I know the name of that. Like that move is called the whatever.

I'm talking about full out routines where you can almost see like yourself counting the one, two, three and four and one. Like if you're doing that. I'm white. That's how I have to dance. Yeah, you got to catch the beat. And ours is more two, four, one, three. Yeah, y'all dance on the down.

Yeah, we do. Yeah. You dance on the up, not the down. Black people dance on the down. White people dance on the up. Because we get excited. Yeah. That's why we, you know, like you dance to like.

Exactly. Yeah. We don't dance to like a drop. Like a drop, we want to go. It's like, hold on. Give it one beat. Now go. Now go.

I'm excited. Now I need to move. Like y'all hear words and white people just lose their mind. But yeah, I don't know. Like, it's nice. I don't see a lot of guys dancing anymore. I think we just discovered white people's rhythm. We do dance to words.

And never even crossed my mind. Absolutely. That's what white people do. Wow. That's why we accept Justin Timberlake because he's one of the few white guys that dance to like the beat. Yeah. And I appreciated Justin Bieber when he told all his fans.

You know, you guys are all. offbeat. He said that on stage. Yo, they were clapping, like, they were clapping in whatever song he's like, yo, I'm going to stop this record. You guys are all offbeat. Because they will throw the artists off. Of course. I've seen that before and I'm like, the entire arena is offbeat.

Like, that has to be annoying for the artist. Like, all right, I'm about to be offbeat because it's 15,000 people that are clapping offbeat. But that's the beauty of Doja Cat's music. You can move to whatever you want to. Yeah, the beat is everywhere. It's everywhere. You're always on beat with Doja.

Yeah, that's why she is, who she is. He's such a great artist. But I love Doja Cat. dope though. I saw a lot of people there. I didn't know what it was, but I saw a Doja Cat and I saw a bunch of people and I'm like, okay, they must have, it's supposed to be a Doja Cat show. Shout to the Doja Cat. She's, I love her. I love Doja Cat. I know she's canceled. I know people don't really fuck with her, but, you know. Listen, man, I don't know. She hangs out with Sweetie. Blackfeet on, if she was doing Blackfeet on online. Is that something different

that a black face? It's Blackfeet. You just said she was, you just said she was exposing her feet on a racist chat. I don't know anything about Doja Cat. Oh, I don't know. So if you guys cancel me for liking her, I apologize. If she has some crazy past that I don't know about I'm sorry. I again didn't even know she had these records that I knew. Yeah. I was expecting not to know one song and then all of a sudden I knew every song. And I love the video with her and sweetie. I watch it probably twice a week. Yeah. No, I sing it to Basley. Okay. That's my best. Is that the name of it, best friends? Oh my God. I love that. Yeah, I love that record. Jesus, I love that record. Well, I love sweetie. I love sweetie.

And happy, didn't she just have a birthday, I think, right? Happy birthday to Sweet. Oh, of course. We didn't get an invite. I heard it was like a freakness. I heard it was like a freakness. And I see, that's Is she an Aries? Is she what? An Aries? I don't know what she is, man. She had like a Freaknik themed birthday party, I believe.

Oh, that's fire. Did you go to freak nick? Sorry, cut you off. I never did Freak Nick. I was still kind, I was still in my teens. I was a little too young to do the Freak Nick thing. A few of my homies from my hood, they used to do Freak Nick. But we did like a black college.

weekend. Kings Dominion in Virginia. We used to do that. We did Myrtle Beach a couple of times. Virginia Beach a couple of time. Can't go wrong. Virginia Beach. Yeah. But never Freak Nick. I never did Freaknik. I used to buy all of DVDs though. Oh my God. It's a little horny fuck. Oh God. I had the collection of Freak Nick. Like that's what I'm saying. If you go back and look at some of these things, like the things that people get canceled about now as opposed to like things that like were freely happening like in the early 2000. like late 90s, it's like the world has changed significantly. Because if you go look at some of those early Freak Nick DVDs, women are walking down the street. And I'm talking about guys are just grabbing ass.

They're not saying hello. It's just like, you're out here. You know what's going down. Why don't want to clip this part? Why? That's what it was. I'm not saying it was right. I'm just saying that's what was happening.

Just saying, yo. I'm not saying it right. You know what time it is out here, Ma. You better to let me grab your ass. That's what the energy was. That's sick, though. You can't do that. Listen, I know.

But I'm just saying back then, it was like, there was no police were right there. Well, we know cops don't really care. I'm just saying this wasn't like, you know what I mean? It was kind of like, this is what this is. This is what this energy is. We all know what we're doing out here. It was a lot of ass shaking. Well, yeah.

The understanding of Freak Nick, from what I understand, everyone knew what time it was and was a willing participant in it. That's what I'm saying. So it wasn't like, again, when you look at it now, it wasn't like a civilian walking by. No, no, no, no, it was not. It was not. No, no, no, it wasn't a civilian. These were women that these were freaks. These were at a picnic. You know what me? So it was kind of like, this is what, these are the hors d'oeuvres, I guess. I don't know what, these are the hors d'ers. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just saying when you go back and look at some of those old freaknik DVDs, with the 2021 mentality of the way society is now, bro, I'm talking about you would be like, holy shit.

This is insane that this was a real thing that was happening before. And in no way is it a comparison because men grab women's ass without their permission all the time. But we never get into women grabbing dicks without our permission. Yeah. It happens way more often than people think. Absolutely. And it's really uncomfortable. It depends on.

Especially in denim. Yeah, but it depends on who's grabbing it. I women don't really have like an idea of their strength and their grip right a lot of times yeah so like to them it it they think they're being sexy but like I'm really in pain yeah this is attached to me you can't this doesn't come off yeah or when they really painful or what about when they miss like the entire and they just grab like one nut oh that'll fuck that'll have you listen when they just grab the the one nut though not the not the sack I know I know what you think that's like the whole you like yo shoddy hold on that that's a whole that's

That's one ball. That hurts. Yeah. And that's the type of woman that ends up being like the over the top dick sucker when you're like, yo, relax. You're doing a lot. I know you think you're going crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This isn't fun. Yeah. Like your mouth is a vacuum on my nut right now and it's not in a good way. Like it hurts a lot. Yeah, yeah. That's like a sensitive, it's a sensitive area, man. You can't really go too crazy on the nuts. You can't do that. Pause. That just sound cool. Yeah, it was kind of nice. But here, I'll take it even further and Nassar so we can't get any ads.

I'm not a huge fan of the continuing to suck after I nut thing. Like, I know that's like, oh my gosh, you kept like, that's a thing. Yeah. It's a really sensitive and vulnerable time for me after I come. Yeah. I go into my show. I'm not as masculine as I once was. Like, I'm like a wounded baby.

Yeah, yeah. I'm a young calf at that time. You start feeling like I turn into veal. Yeah, it's a wound. Oh my God. You get way too vulnerable after that. It's just like I'm still a man, but you don't have the man strength. It's like all of the strength just leaves your body and you feel like a wet mint coat.

Exactly. And she's still sucking the same way. I'm like, I'm curling into a ball. It's great times though. Yeah. It makes for great conversation after. Yeah, man. I don't know.

But yeah, we just went down a whole. Yeah. We made a left. Everyone went to ATL Greek? No. ATO Greek. I mean, of course not Freaknik, but that was kind of our version of it. ATL Greek was the shit.

Didn't they used to have like Greek Fest up here at like, was it Jones Beach or? Well, it was Greekton was at Brighton Beach once. It was kind of traveled. Okay. Greekton was the shit. Yeah. You were Greek. You had to be there.

I used, like I said, Black College weekend, did that a few times, Murdo Beach, Virginia Beach. And that was it. First time I lied about my age was that ATL Greek. And I forgot like Facebook existed at the time. And when I got back, Shorty messaged me on Facebook and said, you know your birthday is on your Facebook. She was like 30. I was 19. And I just lied.

She was like, you're young. I was like, no, I pulled it you up. Call back. Yeah. Pulled you well, Santana. 19 live a crazy life. I'll tell you what the 90s like. I'll tell you with the 90s like.

Yeah, that's what you should have hit her with. No, I hit. But then she got really mad at me when she realized I lied about my age and she fucked a teenager. It's okay I was legal Yeah she turned you into a man It's all good I had had sex of women by that

Oh okay okay okay okay I lost my virginity of 14 I thought this was your first encounter I was What was your first encounter At Greek what is it Greek? This was ATL Greek

ATL Greek Yes I never heard ATL Greek It's dope It was a really good time Speaking of college Oh they still have it Of course

Yeah no Oh okay It was a thing Yeah I know Yeah I know freak niggas out of here There's no There's no country For freak nick

Oh, my fucking nuts? Yeah, no, it's over for that. That would be canceled picnic. Speaking of college, did I ever tell you about the legend of Desaun? Have we ever had that conversation? No, I don't think so. I was at dinner last night with a friend of my Beatrice. Hi, Beatrice.

Shout out to Beauta. What's up, B? And we were just reminiscing on college the way, you know, you meet up with your friends and reminisce about shit. And she reminded me of the DeaSon story. And I forgot. As a guy. Desaun is a guy. Okay.

I'm going to change everyone else's name. I should have changed. Can we shout him out right now? Shout out to Desaun. I don't know where Desaun is at. Desaun is from Atlantic City. Okay. Deson was way cooler than me in college.

Desaun was that dude. Right. So, Desaun was sleeping with a woman next door to the dorm that I was sleeping with a woman. What's a cool woman name that we can, I don't want to say a real name? I always like Erica's. Okay. Desaun is sleeping with Erica. Just sleeping with Erica.

Erica thinks that she's dating Desaugh. Okay. Meanwhile, Desaun is also knocking down Erica's roommate as well. Okay. He's just timing it with classes. Got you. St. Peter's legend, Desaun. So one Friday night, just hear Erica busts out crying, like a bad cry.

So we open the door, we go knock on her door. Are you everything okay? it's like I just got a text message that Desaun was murdered and he was like damn that sucks had this whole paragraph like hey I'm Desaun's sister

I forgot what it was but it was just yo Desaun was murdered like sorry type shit so that word spreads quickly around campus and Desaun was a popular dude they do candle vigils or whatever that shit the word is the college sends out an email

like hey just if anyone needs help or count it was a Catholic school too so it was like if you need to talk to the priest about Desaun dying like we have times for this type of shit people are literally like the campus stop people are bawling their fucking eyes out like it was a thing Sunday passes no one does nothing another fucking ceremony I'm literally laying in my bed hearing people scream cry all fucking night Monday rolls around Deson just walks on campus Fair. Monday.

And mind you, St. Peter's a really small campus. Like, you kind of see everybody. Everyone starts their classes at like 10 a.m. Right.

Everybody's outside. So word has spread that he was murdered already. The college sent out an email. There was candlelight vigils. Okay. Like they were making airbrush t-shirts already. Okay.

Like, no, Deson is dead murdered. It's a sad time. It's over. Right. Right. He fucking walks on campus like nothing is wrong. Uh-huh.

Like he didn't just get murdered. Right. Yeah, it was good. No, what's good? Right. This is a ghost. Right. You're a ghost.

What the fuck are you doing here? Yeah. He was really cool with my man, Kosi. So, Cozy tells me, like, an hour later, I was like, yo, what the fuck is,

like, Desaun is here? He's like, yo, the smorgas on campus right now alive. I'm like, what happened? Like, I thought he was murdered. He was like, nah, he was trying to get away from Erica. Nah, he did all of that

He sent the text message Because she, I guess, was blowing his phone up And he went back to Atlantic City for the weekend So she was blowing his fucking phone up Going crazy So he sent a text message Pretending to be like his sister So she would leave him the fuck alone

And said, Deson was murdered tonight But what? All right, Deson Let me ask you something, Dei Son And I hope you're in great health I hope everything Me too. Deson was a cool dude.

I fuck him. Walk me through this. Why would he go to murder and not just say he was arrested or something like that. It was flyer to get murdered, I guess. But you're not you have to come back.

I know. That's why I love the confidence of it. Like, yo, just give me... Women don't understand, like... No, he's really a legend. Men just need peace for like a little bit. If y'all just like relax for a second... Even if it means faking my murder. Like, yo, just give me two days to relax. I'm in Atlanta city with my family. I'm trying to chill. Maybe knock

down some old high school pussy. Like, leave me the fuck alone. Here's where he's really a legend. Did he ever have sex with Erica after that? What? Oh, he's a fucking legend. He's the fucking legend. And then went on to, like, really date her roommate that he was already knocking down. Oh, who is this guy?

He was, Deson was a fucking legend. Yeah, we need to-Da-Sond if you're out there. No, I asked him on the phone. If she could find his number today. Please do, man. Because I wanted to call him on this podcast. I haven't spoken him in 12 years. If he's lying like that in college, I have to know the type of lies he's getting off as an adult.

Yo. Like he's getting some sick shit off Like as an adult If you go to murder Just so a girl will stop hitting your phone Because most guys say Arrested Lost my phone

You know Car got towed Whatever My phone is in my car Whatever Something to just buy you 24 hours Yeah like

Every dude has killed their grandmother Murder 15 times Oh yo grandma dies I gotta go to a funeral Like how many grandmas do you have Yeah like that Things like that

You don't put yourself in the casket. Well, that's what he was saving his grandma. He was killing himself. He made an executive decision. I can't do that. I can't do that to grandma. So I'll just say I'm dead. All right.

It got you. That's some crazy. But it was also the confidence of just coming back on Monday like nothing happened. He didn't get in trouble for that? No. I just feel like it would be like some type of repercussions if a school since I emailed somebody died and you just walk a candlelight vigil. Well, no.

I think the school needs to like check their facts. Maybe call the Atlantic City police department. Ormond or something? Like, just don't go off Erica's word. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right. You're right. You're absolutely right about it.

They definitely should have called family and somebody. Like, you're right. No, when I'm telling you for two days, like, it ruined the weekend for real. Like, everyone was fucked up. That's hilarious. Because he was real popular. Like, everyone fucked with him. What if he showed up to the candlelight vigil?

Like, yo, what y'all got going on? Yeah, what y'all doing? Damn, who died. Yo, what y'all doing? Like, why everybody's so sad? You know, can I get a candle? There's a big-ass picture of you in the middle of the gymnasium. Oh, man, that's hilarious.

Yo, Dezon, wherever you are, if you're still in New Jersey, please. Desaun, you are a sick dude, man. I need you to call. And matter of fact, I'll call Cosie and see if he still has his number. That's a sick dude. That was the funniest shit of all time. And, like, the casual reason. Like, no, I'm just trying to get away from her.

Yeah, I get it. I mean, you got to do what you got to do sometimes. Even the way Cossey said it to me, like, Cosey totally understood. He was like, you know, I was trying to get away from short. I'm like, I was. He was murdered. Listen, I've done some sick things for the homies. Like, we've done shit like, yo, you got to come to the studio.

Jay is here. You know, niggas used to use that for me all the time. Yo, call me, call me, say Jay want me to rap for him. I'm like, fam. What? You don't, first of all, you don't even rap. He's like, I've done, we've done some sick shit growing up. But like, I'm dead.

That's corny, man. Listen, it worked. You had to get your shit, especially when the two ways was out. all you had to do was send a message like yo was hover aware you guys were doing this absolutely not fuck no but he wouldn't mind

I mean we'd laugh at the shit of course but when you had the two ways it was literally like the first text message so it was kind of like you know we used to see yo jay and we say jz yo jz want you to come to studio yall are corny

and rap but then the way we used to do it is like show the girl the two way like yo I gotta get out of here but you show her the screen like y'all got to get out of here they want me to come down

the studio and spit some shit. No, you said the stew. You didn't say the studio. No, no. It wasn't the stew yet. It was a studio. This is the early 2000. It was still a studio.

What they needed you in the stew for? Nothing at all, bro. They wouldn't care. It was business as usual if I was there or not. Nobody cared. Like, it was... Jay recorded PSA and was like, nah, we have to get mall's approval.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yo, tell them all to come down here, let him hear. But make sure he's with a girl first, though, before we ask him to come down. Great times, man. Yeah, we got some sick lives off as kids, man. but never murdered myself, though. That's legendary status.

I've just killed all family members. That's really what I've done. What you would normally do. Family members that are already dead. You can't kill a family member that's still living. That's crazy. I wonder if, like, grandmas know that, like, they really have been the excuse.

Of course. They did the same. Like, they're the standard excuse for everything. They were our age at one point. They lied about some crazy shit, too. They killed our great grandmother, bad times. It's a cycle. It just keeps repeating it.

So all of this shit is a cycle. And one day we were killed off by all. Our drink. Absolutely. By our kids. Yeah. Not our grand. Our kids.

Like, yeah, my, you know, dad died. Well, listen, I've told you, I used the, my mom's coming at 7 a.m. excuse since I lived alone. Yeah. My mother's been coming to my house at 7 a.m. That's a good excuse. That's a good excuse. Because you got to, women understand.

First of all, a woman doesn't want to meet your mom like that anyway. She doesn't want to be spinning the night from the night before. Oh, no. It's not backfired before, but it's like, oh, I would love to meet your mom. Oh, God. And I, oh, yo, my mother hates, like, everybody. Yeah. My mom hates people.

Like she hates me. And you're like a Libra. She fucking hates Libra. So we gotta go. Yeah, man. Just in conclusion. If you're trying to get away from her, murder yourself.

I mean, if it works, it works, man. I'm not mad at it. But that's some sick shit. Yeah, man. Actually, just saw my whole family these past few days.

Oh, yeah. Condolences, man. I appreciate that. Yeah, lost in the family. Yeah. She was actually died. My grandma. Yeah.

Shouldn't be laughing. That's just how I avoid my problems. Yeah. But no, it's cool. It was, you know, a lot. It was the Farrells, man. A lot of red meat, a lot of politically incorrect jokes. Definitely wouldn't be a great environment for more.

Because you're a vegan, not because you're black. No, I know. I got it. No, I knew where you was going with it. You know what I mean? That's why I laughed. My family likes black. Yeah, no, I got it.

I met your dad. Cool guy. Great guy, man. Oh, but shit. What else happened? Music. Music still exists. The verses.

Did you, uh, Did you catch the soldier? I caught that one. I didn't catch Keith Sweat and Bobby Brown. Listen, man. First of all, shout out to all the legends, number one. First and foremost, before we go any further. Shout out to all the legends.

Soldier Boy, bow wow. Keith Sweat, Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown is still one of the most fun people to watch. He's the fucking one of the best entertainers ever. But it's music aside. Like, I just want to know what Bobby Brown is doing right now. Chilling. Like he's, he's, he's, he's just like the most interesting person.

Because when you think about Bobby Browns, like his, like his life, he was easily one of the biggest stars in his time. That is a fact? Easily one of the biggest R&B stars. Just period. Right. And, you know, seeing him a key sweat on the stage going through, you know, a bunch of the hits. And Bobby just being Bobby, man, bro. I mean, it's just like, how can you not watch this and just like enjoy this shit?

Keith Sweat looks great, man. Did you have some Harlem bias? Who do you think, one? Keith Sweak, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest here. Keith Sweat kicked Bobby's ass as far as the performance. Yeah? He kicked Bobby's ass.

I think that Keith is just, you know, I mean, he's probably in better shape, obviously, better, you know, energy at this point. But it's hard. Bobby Brown got so many hits, though. Keith's way got a lot of hits too, though. And he wrote a lot of hits, but Bobby got a lot of hit records, man. But the performance-wise, just being honest, I love them both. I grew up, this is, you know, grew up on this type of R&B.

But performance-wise, man, Keith, Keith just was in, he was in better, he had better energy, but he was in better shape. And that's a big part of, you know, live performance. You got to be in shape. You got to be able to, you know, perform and, and, and, you know, and, you know, and, entertained at a certain level. But it was dope to see both of them up there. This was one of my favorite ones just because, like I said, I just enjoy watching

Bobby Brown whenever you get a chance to watch him. I'm going to go back. I do want to watch this because I love both of them. Yeah. How far did Bobby's 20 stretch? Do you have to go into the Thug Loving bag? He didn't have to. I think he did, though.

If I'm not mistaken, I think he did. Did he do the karate kick? Bobby was still, he was still getting into some moves. I believe it. But again, Bobby Brown. But Bobby, Bobby got to get, you know what I mean? He ain't, he ain't the same. Obviously, he's not in the same shape, though.

He can't, you know what I mean? But he still got rhythm. But Bobby ain't been in shape. Bobby has been out of shape longer than he's been in shape and was still performing well. But this is what I'm saying, though. But Keith's sweat is in shape, though. Like, he looked like he's at the sports club every morning getting an hour and a half in. Do real R&B singers ever get out of shape?

I'm talking real R&B singers. Yeah. Like, I've never seen a vocalist just let themselves go. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Hell yeah. Are you kidding me? It's not easy, bro. That shit ain't like getting older and staying in shape, especially if you have like, you know, money. Like, because now you can, you can fucking eat, drink, do drugs all you want. Well, drugs keep you skinny. That's what keeps all these artists looking so great. Depending on which drug. Depending on which drug. Listen, man, they all kind of make you skinny. We shouldn't be laughing at this, man. That's just fucking crazy.

but yeah but no i mean you know keve like keef is in shape though keve looked like he's still like he active man keve looked like he's still out there like really really being active in them streets man well from my understanding he was pretty active in the streets yeah he told he told uh he told dj cassidy um because dj yeah like jury on and shit and um kev made a reference like yeah you got a lot of jury on you know whatever whatever it was like if back in the day i would have got you Can you give some of our younger listeners that may not know Keith's background in these Harlem streets? No, Keith is, he's, don't let the R&B, don't let the ballads fool you. Bobby neither.

Yeah, no, no, for sure. I mean, but we know that. I think that's a little more docket. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Keith is, you know, people don't get it twisted. Keith is he writes some fucking hits. See what you do there. Yeah.

Oh, forget it. Yeah, don't get it twisted. He got some hits, but he probably, he probably hit it. He probably knocked a few niggas out, too, though. Don't get it fucked up. Like, don't let the R&B shit fool. You keep sweaters definitely from the streets. No, yeah, I have to go back and watch.

It was very entertaining. Yeah, we were. And Bobby wants everyone to drink responsibility. Not drink responsibly. Drink responsibility. Okay. I get it. Understand?

You had to see where he was going with it. Drink responsibility. Yeah. You know what I mean? Have responsibility when you drink. Exactly. Don't drink responsibly. Don't drink responsibly.

I get it. Bowowow and Soldier was cool. And again, I don't want to verses the people to death, but... Yeah, that was fun. I just, I like to see young people get their flowers. Yeah, and they was throwing jabs at each other joking about internet shit that happened over the year. Like, I like that. It's kind of like, listen, man, we're successful.

What do we really have to be upset about? Why I love so much about the soldier and bow wow shit is for everyone in the verses, like, because of the internet and because they both made it at such a young age. We watched all the fuck shit they. did in real time every day. Like, granted, Bobby, we saw a lot of the problems that Bobby faced, but if Bobby grew up in the same era that Soldier Boy grew up, it'd be fucking nuts. Right.

For sure. Absolutely. So I can appreciate watching these two guys that got super rich as kids and we watched all their mistakes, but we also watched all the successes and how they changed music. It was just nice to see. Give people their flowers early. That's why I don't understand when people get to it. upset at, uh, at like, kid stars, like young pop stars because it's like, this is a kid who's

really supposed to be in high school, like making all of these types of mistakes without the world looking at them. Like, yeah. And with access, money. Right. And fame. Yeah. It's like, how could, what do you think is this is still a kid? Like, these are young kids, man. If you gave me Soldier Boy's money when I was 16 years old, I would have been 30 times worse than Soldier Boy for, for decades. Right, right. Still trying to recover. Yeah, I feel like with a lot of like the child stars, I've heard, and again, I'm just a civilian, I've heard the term of when you go to jail, sometimes you just remain that age

the entire time. When you get out, you're still kind of that age you were when you got locked up. I think it's very similar with fame. Like if you're a child star and you get fame and money at 15, a lot of them just kind of remain 15 because they don't have to really grow in that sense. Like, there's still a kid. kid. No, I get it. I understand. Not all of them, of course. But a lot of child stars, I feel like they just always remain kids because they got success, fame, and money at that age, and they just kind of remained in that mindset. Yeah, and they didn't have a chance to really live out their, you know, because essentially now they're, you know, cash cow and they're supporting

their families. Friend, then you have people that work at these companies that depend on this young kid to be successful in order for them to have, you know, money and take care of their family. So it's a lot of responsibility and they don't get a chance to really live out their childhood man they're forced to grow up way too fast and um yeah you know it's unfortunate that a lot of these stories end up bad but for these two you know this is a this is a great story of course they had their turbulence here and there and their ups and downs but everybody does but it's it's good to see them in their adulthood they're both you know doing well they're in good health they're taking care themselves and still having fun man we we have to celebrate longevity these both these gentlemen have reinvented themselves

constantly and kept moving. Absolutely. Shout to Solja and Bow Wow. I love that that was a versus. Yeah. But what I actually want to talk about, and I don't really want a versus, y'all. I just want to talk about beans and norri.

Beans and Norrie, yes. That appears to be happening. Do they announce it or? I'm not sure they did, but we could announce it here. It's happening. Can we say the date or what's going to kill us? All right. It exists.

Yeah. It's somewhere. It's a date. It's on some of a date. It's on somebody's whiteboard somewhere. Yeah, it's happening. It's happening. Where do you, of course I know you're biased.

Not because Norrie is my, Norrie is my guy, man. Norrie, I consider Norie a friend. I don't consider a lot of people a front. Norrie is, that's fam right there, man. But Beans is part of your lineage. Beans is, Bean's as Rockefeller. Norrie is too, though.

Norrie still has, he still has big Rockefeller chain and doesn't know where it's at, allegedly. Of course, allegedly. Yeah, man, this is, this is, this is, This is interesting only because I look at this matchup, and to me, this is very, very similar to Fab and Jadicus. All right, expound on that. In what sense? Only because I feel like if Beans, if he goes straight, if he stays street and just gives us like his illest verses, nor he has hit records.

He even got some of the reggae tone. And all of that. But I feel like if Bean stays street, I think that supersedes all of that. That's why I think he'll win. And that's what Fab and Jada, Jada stayed street. You know, Fab, obviously, that's the- Well, nah, I mean, Jada, he broke out some bad boy hits. No, I mean, he got, because it's like, all right, Benjamin's, then what?

It's like, I don't, you can play any, what are you going to, like Biggs said, Benjamin's is top, maybe top five hip-hop record of all the time. You could argue, you could argue top one. Yeah, exactly. Like, you play that. It's like, you know what I mean? But for the most part, Jada kept it street. He gave us a lot of street verses, you know what I mean?

And I feel like if Beans does that in this battle, I feel like the people might roll with that. I'm just curious to see how the regga tone stuff works in it. Because that was certainly an era. Like, if you was around for Norie doing reggae, that was a fucking, no, that was just the shit. But let me not. I just don't know how it's going to, in 2021, I don't know how it's going to be.

Right. But let me not, you know, just say it. like Norrie don't have street versus like he has banned from TV yeah that's what I'm saying like I don't want to say I'm very aware of Norrie's catalog like but I just feel like I feel like a lot of people because you know honestly a lot of people didn't even being's name was probably only I don't think was ever brought up as far as versus was it was no I don't think beans ever really was ever brought up right norie I feel like is a good matchup mm-hmm just because it was not the same era but they were probably the same time

and I just don't know if the record's on shit is going to work. That's really it. I mean, it's hits though. You know what I mean? A hit is a hit. All right. What goes to get if,

is Banned from TV a point no matter what? I don't know, man. What does Reservoir Dogs do against Banned from TV? This is what I'm saying. It depends. It depends on how you feel in that day. I think Banned from TV gets that point. but and I love Norrie's verse on that

we do play puns verse that's the one that plays now Oh absolutely. Norrie killed the shit Matter of fact we play nature's verse Right right Being shit on Reservoir Dogs gets played Absolutely so I don't know if that's a

different in that point and I'm not shit on Norris Because he killed Ban from TV I'm just saying what If that shit comes on it at the party They're gonna play puns verse Yeah but then again reservoir dogs doesn't really even come on the party To begin with but right But that's what I'm saying people might like the verse more though.

Like people might like Beans verse more than Norrie's verse on band from TV. You understand what I'm saying? So this is why this is going to be a fun thing because again, it depends on how it. One thing I learned about these verses is when you're sitting home and you're watching it because you kind of anticipate the records that are coming.

But for some reason, it's weird because certain records you think are going to hit when they play at the versus, you like, it don't. Yeah, it don't. Like, damn, that wasn't really what I thought it was. Like, blood money would go, in my house would go crazy. Yeah, you would lose the fucking, but I just don't know, like, CNN.

Yeah. Like, if they play the L.A. L.A. shit, that's crazy. I just don't know what that does in a person. But then again, Bean's records that I love, like, the truth to me is just a point. Right. On the versus stage, I don't know what the truth does. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just don't know.

Yeah. They might need to see, and that's the thing, too. I don't want this to be. for them for beans and nori i feel i don't want them to be on the stage i kind of want them to be like maybe in like a studio a pool hall or i don't i don't want this to be too much over production yeah like because this is a real you know this is a real like street versus this is like really really entrenched in what hip hop is this is like a real street versus for me like these some of two of my favorite rappers with some of my favorite verses from some of my favorite

records. So it's kind of like I don't want to see the too overproduced, you know, thing with these two. And then I, I feel like Norie is such a character. I feel like, you know, you don't want to kind of put him on this big-ass stage and this big-ass, you know, hall. I feel like you get the real Nori character more into like a real intimate setting. And also, you know, unfortunately beans was shot. It affected his lungs and his voice. His voice, yes. So that's also a factor that I think

sucks for beans that might be tough for him to perform. Like his voice is drastically different because of what happened. So, you know, I may alter some of those records or, again, I don't know what healthies in as far as performing. I just, I hope beans is, you know, strong enough to get through all those records just because of what

happened to him. But I do. Put beans and Norrie in a boat dagger by the chips and sit them on two crates for real and let them play their shit in the store somewhere man and you know what I mean like that's how they need to do this. This is becoming a segment by accident. You know how we went back to the Jewel's shit? Yeah. This segment is now becoming Rory trying to understand songs from his childhood. Trying to try to make sure you got it right? I don't understand this one to this day and maybe you can help me. Okay. Nori Super Thug.

Classic record. Classic. Classic fucking record. Love it. Shout out to Farrell. Shout out to Neptunes. The beginning of the verse, which is iconic and which Norrie kills.

We light a candle, run laps around the English channel. I'm on board so far. I know where you're going on with this. Yeah. I'm on board. But this is Norrie, though. I'm on board.

This is Norrie's personality. We light a candle, run laps around the English channel. I love that. That's a bar. Yeah. I'm on board because they produced it. Absolutely. Neptunes.

I got a cocker spaniel. That's what I'm saying. I know that kind of caught you. Yeah. You know it ain't no fun now. Yeah, yeah. But there's a cocker spaniel. I would have a blast if the Neptunes had a cocker spaniel.

But this is like. Ma, I am a white kid that does not fully understand hip-hop. I am a culture vulture. Can you explain this fucking lyrics to me? This is why you got to love Norie because the way he writes. it's kind of just his personality. Oh, 100%.

He just blurs shit out. And you're like, okay, I'm fucking with it if you're fucking with it. So do you think that the Neptunes, in fact, had a Cocker Spaniel in the session? Or I thought maybe I'm a such a civilian. Like, maybe I didn't know that was like code for like, yo, Neptunes. I got the bliky. You ain't even got a thing too deep, bro. It's just right there.

I got a Cocker Spaniel. All right, cool. Norrie has a caucus. Maybe he purchased a Cocker Spaniel on the way to the studio. I don't know what Norrie was feeling like when he wrote that. I never even know if Norrie ever even had a dog But he had one that day And that's what makes Norrie Norrie.

I'm going to call Nori, man. Call Norrie on the phone, man. Let's let's let's let's let's hopefully he answers We'll see. Norris busy do. Yo. Norrie got assistance answering his phone. That ain't Norrie.

Hello? Yo. What's going on, sir? You are you are live on air with myself and mall Oh yeah, got me lines up. You got me up. No, never that. We have a few questions.

We don't know if it's confirmed. We don't care. But we are discussing you versus beans. Yeah. Keep discussing it. Good heard. What are you going to do when Beans plays the truth? I don't even know what that record is.

No, we cut it out, man. It's the truth. Every time I step in the booth. That joint? Yes. Yeah. Oh, man. Let me think about that.

I would say, I don't know. I'm not very much about that one. Okay. What happens when he gets in his field in the airbag? I'm going to sometimes. I love my life. Okay. Oh, okay.

Okay. I'm into that. Yeah, I'm into that as well. Reservoir Dogs verse banned from TV. Yeah, I mean, I'm going on ban from TV because I can still get the dudes to come out. You know what I'm saying? Every last one of them, even fat Joe. you know what I'm saying?

He could replace fun. Oh, that would be hard. He could probably get the loss but he ain't getting the big dog to come out. I mean, do you know that though? I'm positive. Okay. Quickly, because we were talking about Super Thug

and I was just a young, young kid when Super Thug came out. And I never understood this bar and I would like to ask you what you meant. You still are a young whirper snapper. Thank you, Norris. All right. All right, go ahead.

You said run laps around the English channel. Love that bar. Neptunes. I got a Cocker Spaniel. You can't forget the beginning. We light a candle. Light a candle back in Queens, you know, the realness, the foundation. When someone will pass away, you would light a candle.

Of course. So the original bar was you light a white candle run laps around the English channel. I'm so mad because the homie passed away. You don't say, I could run laps around the English channel. And then Neptunes, I got a Cocker Spaniel. back then we was calling guns you know a 4-5 would be a rock well or a pit bull will be a 9 millimeter

so a cockusandu is what a 2-5 come on wake up I listen I'm just a civilian oh he just yeah he just I'm a civilian nori see this is why we called you bro I just figured the Neptunes because Ferrell looks like he could have a

Cocker Spaniel in the studio so I just like assume he was like yo I'm feeling the dog I can just see Chad chilling with a Cocker Spaniel on the stew yeah man it's no problem what kind of dog we're got what we got

what kind of dog do we have a Yorkie I got a Yorkie right now okay what what what gun would a Yorkie

be maybe a 38 3 8 3 8 some you can put in your boot putting in your boot it's a long it's a long time from there

you know what I mean of course you know my back ain't exactly up the far that Norie just taught me something

I didn't know that okay yeah that's all I just wanted to check on you and try to pump this beans and Norry shit

because we do want to see it I think it's a great matchup you deserve Being a versus. In case you, I don't know, we got beans booked that racket right now in Miami, and he's also, you know, stepping on that dream champ stage as well.

Oh, fuck. Just in case. Yeah, just in case is breaking news right here. Oh, I love that. That'll be a fucking amazing. That's dope. That's really, though. So I'm going to give him his flowers, and then that night off, I'm going to take it back.

We're definitely getting his flowers, because that's the homeless. For sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. But yeah, man. Thanks. in with us? We're trying to pump this up. I don't know if it's been booked, but if it hasn't, we try to make sure it is. It's in process. I'll tell you that. It's in the process. I thought at

first we ain't make enough noise. But I'm hearing, I'm seeing, I'm seeing a couple of things moving and shaking. So we've got other things moving and shaking. So one thing moving shake, we're going to move and shake, you know, and everything is going to be a lot of shaking baking, you know what I mean? That's a fact. Is bloody money on the docket? Absolutely. Okay, good. God. One and part three. As it should be. As it should be. All right, bro. All right. In the trunk is, too. Well, I thought that went without saying.

Okay. How many records on records make it? I don't know. I ain't even really, Jay, too. I ain't really even getting nothing together because it ain't at the point of it ain't getting nothing, but I will. And, you know, I'd like to tell you too. I'm doing this playing around, man. You know what I'm saying? I think Bing should be outside. I think he's been getting a lot of money at this point. You know, you got people like Cameron, you know, selling horsepower and, you know what I'm saying, and me, you know, turning into media as time for a legend like him to come back outside and get some of this money. So that's really what I meant.

I know a lot of people took it in the wrong way. But look, look, like how much people are talking about beings on a real good manner, like in a real good way. And, you know, a lot of people got his back if I like that, you know what I'm saying? I actually love that. You know what I mean? I actually loved that because, you know, for a long time, Philadelphia and, like, you know, even Rockefeller wasn't even showing unity. It's the first time you've seen Rockefeller and Philadelphia's come to Like, let's come on, let me. Let beans go all like that.

I'm like, okay, look, look at this. I don't form you interview by mistake. That's good. That's dope. No, I love that. I love that. It's a great thing. I was arguing from young guru to, you name them, you know what?

And it was dope because it was like, you know what? I'm glad beans get to see the love that he got, you know what I'm saying? And maybe if I didn't do that, he wouldn't have seen it. You know what I mean? And I don't know what it is, but, you know, I think Allah told me to do this and I did it. And, you know, we're going to get a good, go get a good bash out of this. Yeah, for sure. We're waiting on it

And don't get too scared When Rock the mic comes on I don't even know What's that? What's that? The one of Petey crack Yeah What's the y'all?

Don't do that. Shout out to Petey. No, I'm just saying I don't be listening. I don't be listening. Freeway's on it too. Yeah. Yeah.

He needs that. We need that. We need that. We need that. I love freeway. I believe freeways out here as well, you know what I'm saying? So,

if we're going to have a bunch, You know, most of the time I'll be playing around with this stuff, all the time I'm playing around. But I want a good match, and I want, you know what I mean? Like I said, I want him to come outside. I want him to come to the forefront. He's, you know what I'm a legend in this game. You know, that's what drink champ is about, giving people their flowers.

I know a lot of people, you know, that was an old 50-sid tactics. You know what I'm saying? You know, I mean, you say something and, you know, things happen. And, you know, yeah, but I'm excited. I'm excited to get it done. And, you know, right now I'm here in early September. But, you know, it is what it is. For sure.

Looking forward to that. Yeah. Shout out to you. We'll be in Miami soon and we'll all get up. Oh, yeah, man. You know, I need to ask you out some questions, man. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man.

Here we go. I'm media now. You know what I'm saying? I understand. I understand. I'm sorry, man. Cut it out. I'm mad too.

I'm not too. No, we'll come down there and we'll make more drink. Well, definitely. Definitely, y'all. Y'all take it easy. Man, you have a wonderful day, man. Keep doing. You're doing positive energy.

All right. All right. Peace. no man that that would be set up to be one of my one of my favorite people norie is norie is the fucking greatest yeah and even through shit he's saying he had questions of shit through through all the bullshit that happened through those few months like norie was super communicative and like yo I'm just checking in on you type shit yeah that's my dude norie's a really really good good person one of the best outside of just making fucking great music one of the

best for sure but i feel beans beans does need that attention let me not know all right let me reword that. He does not need that attention. He deserves the recognition. Like, Beans is one of the better rappers ever. Absolutely. To me. Beans is, um, you know, if you, if you, you, you can't be a fan of rap

and hip hop and not respect and appreciate what Beanie Segal did you know, as far as his career, just for the city of Philadelphia. You know, obviously the success of Beans and state property, you know, know, it birthed the meek mills.

Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? So it's, you got to respect, you got to respect what he did, you know, clothing line, you know, movies. Yeah, just everything was state prop. Yeah. I mean, you got to. I mean, it's, I mean, it's, it's almost laughable when people try to, like, ignore

beings and, you know, his, his role in, in the culture and what he did. Yeah, I mean, he brought the, I can actually rap and make. hit records type shit. Yeah, and his style. Like in a grimyer way, not the way, like, Jay kind of did more like the cooler finesse like rap type of shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like beans was just grimy as fuck.

Yeah, like, also make a hit record. Right. His style was really like, is unique. Like, you knew beans as soon as you heard him, he didn't sound like nobody. His, his flow, his cadence, you know what I mean? His punch lines. Everything about him was just so unique and special. And it's dope.

Like I said, you know, what Norie said is, it's dope for people to be talking about beans. and wanting to see them, wanting to hear from them. Like, I love seeing shit like that because, you know, again, I'm a little biased, but I know how important Beans is for the culture. If Norrie brings out, and we can wrap up soon, but if Norie brings out Jada Kiss during for ban for TV, which you probably. Beans has to reply with a Jada kiss.

That would be hilarious. How funny with that? Which was one of my favorite battles in history. Oh, Beans and Jada still is one of the illest battles. those ever because you have two of the best rappers probably ever in hip-hop. If he comes with a kissed fucking dis, that's funny. Off band from TV.

I'm not even going to do Reservoir Dog. Yeah, no, no, switch it up. That would be amazing. Nori can pull off bringing out Fat Joe to DuPun's verse, bringing out Kim, bringing nature, like that would be crazy. See, so when he's hearing him say that, so obviously they're going for the stage performance thing. They don't want to just lightweight performing the records

and the studio type of set and they want to like he wants to make it a full out let's perform let's make it a show and I'm not mad at that Do you think he'll bring out Daddy Yankee and Nina Sky?

That would be crazy that would be hard yeah that's a big record that's a big record yeah I hope this happens you know Triller versus make it happen man we want to see this

we need this for the culture and it'll be it'll be one of the the better battles I actually just recently watched Cormega on Drink Champs and it was a fucking amazing episode Yeah. Like amazing.

Cormega, he should be in podcasting. He's just such a fucking intelligent dude. I missed that one. I didn't see that one. That's probably what I need to see with Norrie and Carmagga. I'm pretty sure they talked about a lot of shit. Cormega had, he had

this one part talking about ego and it was funny when you were talking about your man's that you met up with over July 4th. It just reminded me so much of what Cormega was saying about how so much of his life was driven by ego and it was only for the moment and then once that moment was gone

your ego wasn't there for the consequences only regret was there for the consequences like it's go watch CoreMega and Nori yeah I'm gonna check that one out it's a really really good episode but yeah other music we got snow coming out today the one and only

the beautiful to go elegant. Listen, pressure's on. I think her last album Call Me Nuts is a classic. And you know, I don't give up the classic

tag like that. No, she, Snow. Those feelings is a fucking classic. Yeah, no. Snow, she put out some amazing records, amazing records.

You know what I like about Snow the most, away from just like the dope-ass records? Hmm. I like her, like, it's,

her style to me is very unique. in what sense she's almost like a she reminds me of like she gives me like a lean a horn okay type of vibe where it's like you don't really hear from her much you don't really see her much but when you do see her she just like looks she's like a fairy it's like she weird is she just float down from and how does she get here like i just love her her energy i love her style i love even though in her tone of voice the way she speaks. Yeah.

Like she's very, she's very like just elegant, if that's the word I'm looking for. Yeah. No, she's definitely separated herself from, I mean, it's been called this, and I'm sure a lot of R&B singers are mad by this term being this, but like the whisper singers, because she's not a whisper singer.

No, no, no. But a lot of the sound that No ID creates is around just the era of what's happening in R&B, and when you get her tone and her actually being able to sing, it kind of separates drastically from the mellow R&B and her writing to her writing is fucking phenomenal. But I'm really excited. Snow is one of my favorite artists. I think, is this the track list there?

It should be. Yeah. Two Tyler features, James Fonseroy. I don't even need to say anything. Matter of fact, I will name drop for a second. It'll fall right here. I was talking to Snow at her show and No ID was there as well

and I said to them Snow, it's now your responsibility to put cocaine 80s back together. It's now your responsibility. You are the artist that no ID is focused on the most. You are amazing. You're the only one that could go over there

and be like, yo, cocaine 80s exist now and I'm part of it. That would be fly. That would be fly. Cocaine 80s was like, it was some the best, like just that time, first of all, it was at 2011. 11. 11. That time was just like an interesting time in music. Within one month, we got Frank Ocean, Nostalgia Ultra,

weekend, House of Balloons, and we got Cocaine 80s. Right. That was like a really, really interesting, unique time in music. I don't know what was going on. I don't know like what was happening in the universe, but that time, that moment was really, really special in music. We got some amazing records, creatively, some records that we didn't even know we would like that probably changed the way we even listen to music. Well, I mean, from there, not to say that James Fonsori hadn't already penned some great records at that point, but I feel like after Cocaine 80s, he really got in his stride and became like in demand for every major artist.

Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I can totally understand. And there was more writers in Cocaine 80s. I don't want to just make it about James and obviously no ID putting everything together. helps. Right. Yeah.

It does a little bit, right? Yeah. But I just, I feel like James just got too in demand and like, yeah, I could go write Justin Timberlake's album and be rich. I probably wouldn't make cocaine 80s music either. I mean, but that too or sometimes, you know,

you got the real real artists who, they're just not motivated in that space anymore to jump into that. And me, I would think, I'm leaning towards that. I just think that James Fontleroy, you know, and cocaine A's. I think that was like a moment they had fun. And I think that they don't want to force that energy again. Yeah.

If it happens, it happens great. I think, you know, that's more so what it is. But I don't think that James just got so busy and everyone just became in demand that they just don't want to do it. I just think that they had fun. That was like a jam session that they let us in on. That's probably the best way to put it. Yeah. But the direction they were going like when they added comment into the group and then when they

added Jeney into the group, I was like, oh, they're about to do like some R&B native tongues shit. Like, I was excited. I was like, they're just going to start adding. And then I think probably the last cocaine 80s feature was on Naz's Life is Good album, maybe. And I was like, oh, they add Nause to this shit. Like, this is about to be the click that No ID puts together. And then it was like, oh. And I'm not mad at that.

And their 2020 experience came out. And it was like, all right. Everyone on Earth the one sponsor for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But listen, Snow, I'm excited for your album. If you can. if you're listening, which I know you're not, please ask No ID

and James to put cocaine 80s back together and you join the group as well. Go get GA, go get Common, go get Nas, go get... Go be dope. Let's like make a real R&B native tongues situation. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that.

But I'm excited. Vince's album is also out today. Vince Staples. Shout out to Vince. I think it's just called Vince Staples. That's definitely a... That's what Vince will call this album. Did you watch his LA Leakers, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

He went off. Somebody pissed Vince off. He went crazy. Like, no, I could rap. Vince might be the best kept secret in hip hop, actually. You think? I only say that obviously Vince is known and he has a following and he has. But I think Vince is a biggest star than people probably know.

I mean, I won't speak for it because we obviously know his personality is just as good as his rapping as as far as that star. But that's what I'm saying. He's a, he's a star. He's a star. But I mean, why I respect him again, I'm not speaking for him. I do not notice to be a fact. It seems like Vince don't really want to fuck with y'all. Like, I like being just over here. But that's, to me, that's what makes him a star. It's, you know, he knows obviously he's talented. He's obviously a smart guy. He's obviously entertaining. He's obviously funny and, you know, all of these things. But I think that he's just not playing. He doesn't want to play. the game.

Yeah. It's like he jumps in and out when he wants. He's on his own terms. He moves. He moves when he wants to move. Which I respect. He's not chasing nothing. He's not,

you know what I mean? And I like shit like that because it's kind of like, I'm dope. I'm smart. I'm going to let y'all in on some of this fly shit I've been doing. And then I'm going to just disappear and I don't want to be bothered with none of y'all. I would call him, but he said in the LA Leaker's freestyle that he doesn't want to do a rollout.

Yeah, no, please. And then knowing Vince, he's probably in the middle of the hood watching some wild shit go down. You know, that's just, that's just what Vince is. Vince is another one to me that needs a, he needs cameras on him 24 hours a day.

Oh yeah. His own cameras, not overly produced shit. Like, he just needs to like record just from his point of view all day, every day and put that shit out. There was way other better bars than that. That's terrible English,

but there was better bars in his freestyle. I did appreciate him saying I'm problematic and proud of it. Vince. I really appreciate that. Yeah, this is me and if you don't like it, fuck you. And if so, fuck you too. Yeah. That type of attitude.

But no, I'm excited for the album. I did want to ask him, which maybe we'll call him after the album, and actually talk about it. I did want to ask him if he thought that wearing the Yankees hat made him rap better. But, throwing on the Yankees fitted like, yo, that's your attitude? Yeah. That's like his super power.

It's just special powers. Anytime the Yankees'clock. fitted come on. You got a rap. You got to, you got to know what you're doing. I didn't see a Dodgers fitted on. Yeah, you got to, you got to throw that Yankee hat on. You got to do something. Yeah, I felt like he wrote that verse and was like, no, that shit too good. Let me throw on the Yankee fitted. That's funny. Yeah, shut out the Vince, man. I'm looking forward to hearing this. Yes, that's my guy. Um, I'm trying to think. Does anything else come out today? I'm out of, I'm out of touch. That's why I do a podcast. I never know. I never know when albums are

dropping. I'm still listening to a bunch of shit that came out. I'm still listening to Larry June. Larry June is great. I'm still listening to Mock Hami. I'm still listening to Banks. Still listening to Tyler. Her. Oh, shit. Did you relisten to...

Stiles P has an album coming out. Ghosting. Shadows P. Oh, the Space Jam... Space Jam... Soundtrack comes out. New Legacy. I mean, the records that have been released are great.

I don't doubt that that's not going to be a good album, especially if LeBron is a N-Ring it. Can you pull up the track? for for Space Jam, a new legacy? Wait, LeBron is A&R and R? Well, he's in the movie,

so I assume he's A&R the soundtrack. He just tied it together. He's doing everything. I just can't wait for the deluxe. Ooh, remember that? You got to put out

the deluxe, bra. Do you think he'll put out the deluxe movie too? Like, ooh, there was another game. Game two. The deluxe game. LeBron was with fucking Universal or Paramount

and was like, yo, what if like we play the game against the monsters? Best of three? And then at the end, like they say, yo, double and nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like, a week later, we give them the other game. Yeah.

Now, that's the deluxe game. You're right. The deluxe game. It's a lot of big names on this project, though. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. Oh, God. Chance and John Legend. I already know what that song sounds like.

You know what that song sounds like, too. You know what the chance the rapper in John Legend's song is. You know it already. This is definitely the song you hear why you're in Bloomingdale's. Wait for the guy to go in the back and get the polo teas. That's definitely that song. Oh, my God. You've heard that song before.

Of course. I say John is on there. We heard that record already. Yeah, that's the record. That's fire. Corday. Yeah, no, this looks pretty good. It's a lot of big names.

I didn't realize all of these names on there, though. Well, I mean, when Braun is A&R and there's no boundaries. Okay, look at Dame Dollar getting the placement. That's what's up, man. Shout out to Dane. All right. we'll come back next week and dissect all. Oh, salt and pepper and cash doll.

How come you didn't tell us about that one? You know, Cash has been kind of acting funny. I haven't spoken to her. Really? Yeah, man. She wasn't there when you needed her, huh? I'm just out here by myself, man.

You got out here naked, just no one there to help you? Yeah, man. That shit is crazy, bro. She really didn't check on you? No, man. It's crazy. You know this. You know who's in your...

You got to go through things to learn who's in your corner, Rory. You know what I'm saying? You got to, this is a learning experience. I did it feel when you found out cash wasn't in your corner. Man, it shit hurt, man. That shit hurt. Yeah. I felt, because y'all were like my favorite power couple.

Yeah, man, it should hurt. I thought there was some future there. I'm going to bounce back, though. Like Moldol, I really thought was a thing. Bro, don't ever say Moldol again. Please don't. No, I'm not. But you know how they put like couple names together?

Oh, man. Like, Benefer. Don't say that. Benifer was so nasty. Remember that right? I was running with that? That was disgusting. Why do we do that?

We don't do that. They did that. No, no. Dog, I did not do anything with Benefer. And Jennifer Lopez did not come up with that. They were Benefer. No, but the streets came up with that. And then everybody just started calling them Benefer.

What street? Tell me what street. I don't know what street it was. It's probably Third Avenue still with. Alston. Yeah, somebody down there on Prince Street came up with that shit. I don't know who did that, man. Oh, my God.

Benefer. But, no, like, I felt you don't like, because it's cash doll. I got it. You're mall. I got it. So mall, and it kind of rhymes a little bit. Moldo.

No, no, please no. God, no. Dolly Mall? No. It just gets worse. Every time we try to.

Ooh, ooh, since you're, she's cash, uh-huh. You're Jamal Clay. Uh-huh. Cash is Clay.

You listen, man, I just think that's a great ending. I think we're going to wrap this, wrap this up and we'll talk to the people. You're not? No, I'm not.

I'm not. I'm really not. I mean, you're Muslim. So you're Muhammad. I'm really not. Muhammad doll? We're going to get cancer trying to come up. Cash Ali.

We're going to get cancer trying to come up for some of these days. I'm telling you right there. Jay Electron is going to call me and curse me out. I promise you. I am not making fun of any Muslim names. I'm only making fun of them all. But yeah, no, we could we could do that. Wait, sweetie's on a salt pepper and cash doll song?

All right. All right. It's hoops, the name of the song feature in salt and cash doll by Sweetie. So what this means is, this is how they do with the fucking streaming now. So sweetie will be the quote unquote primary artist. So to say, buy sweetie. And the people that are featured are not the primary artist. It won't show up on their page.

It'll show up on Sweetie's page. Got you. Okay. Yeah, it's the numbers game on how to get an artist. Okay, got. How to steal their fans more or less. Got you. Okay.

But that's why it says, by chance, the rapper John Legend, etc. But shout out to Saint for being Dolo on that, and they just got the featuring Siza. Siza said, fuck out of here. You are not going on my page, Saint. That's a good record. It's a fucking great record.

Yeah, I love it. Am I allowed to ask you about what happened with St. John? Short story, it was just, I mean, I don't even know how to... Give us the T. It's not even no T. It was just... You know, I think insecurities is the only way to put it. Okay.

It's just insecurities, ego, and misunderstanding. Well, I mean this sincerely. Prayers everyone involved. Yeah. I hope no woman was actually harmed in that. And I don't want to get on the gossip shit. I just know that that's your man's. No, I thought maybe you would have the exclusive.

No, I mean, I reached out. I mean, I reached out to him. He didn't hit me back. I bet he didn't. It's probably, it's probably a time where he's, you know, his phone is going crazy. And he's just like, he probably, he actually probably thought I was recording. But he not. But St.

But St. No, he wouldn't even do that. So I'm, I'll talk to him soon. I did speak to Biggs and, you know, he told me everything that happened. You know, it's unfortunate. But again, shit like this happens. I just, I wonder if anyone in L.A. was watching. And again, I don't know if any of this happened. Uzi scream at St. John and was like, why is his little brother going,

nuts. Exactly, right? That's what it would look like. If he was to walk around the cool and see that. Like, wow, his little brother's really upset of his big brother. Yeah, he's upset. He should definitely go buy those sneakers that he wants. But no, I don't want to joke, because I don't know what happened, and those allegations

are kind of nuts. So I really, really pray that no woman was harmed. And if a woman was harmed, then fuck him. And that's really all I got out. I'm not mad at that. But whatever. Facts, I guess. hopefully will come out and we will know

so I don't want to say fuck someone without facts but if that is indeed what happened I'm fucking I'm with you I'm with you on that but yeah do you have anything else what are we at as far as time right now you are at 142 all right I'm not mad at that

yeah um oh let's add this for next week I'm gonna write it down we've been good at getting back to things over the weekend or whenever the fuck it was I liked a picture of a woman and her boyfriend. And then

then screenshoted it and texted it to me and said what did you like about this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we will get to that next week. We will. We will definitely. No, we're going to get to that.

What if I liked it? But we're going to get to that. We ain't even got to get to that because you know it's some back story to that. I'm happy for it. I know, I understand, but we'll get to that. And maybe I even text them. Because it's a big,

it's a, you definitely. did. I know you did. I know you text her. I know you did. Or did she text me. It could go either way. It could go either way. You know, it could go either way. But that's why I screen shot it. I'm in love. That's why I screenshot it and sit it to you because I was like, yo, fan, what you like about this, me? You can just tell me. You're a beat too, though, so don't do that. For sure. We know that. Like, for sure. We know that. She looked like she got a good pussy too. Listen, this is the ginger beard, man. I'm all.

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