New Rory & MAL - Season 1 | Episode 8 | "McMal"

Episode Date: August 13, 2021

Rory & MAL sit down to discuss apartment hunting, Nas’ new album, concert etiquette, Governor Cuomo’s resignation, sharing locations, being “waxed and vaxed” + more! Like, comment, subscribe! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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A lot of liberal looks. walking down the street in Manhattan with his shirt on. What's your FDNY shirt? I think they saw the American flag. And granted, when I see American flag in America. But you know, you get that little like, I, bro, relax. With your patriotism, like, you're doing a lot. Like, granted, if it's not Willie Nelson draped, I'm a little nervous.

And even with Willie, I'm a little nervous. Like, come on, you're about to say the N-word. Right. So I think me walking down a street in Manhattan with the American flag may scare a little folks. Also, like, my head is almost bald. Like, I look. Oh, okay. I look a little weird.

A little Remy from higher learning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. So I started to realize the looks I was getting and then like the double takes to, because this is like a 9-11 shirt. So when they saw the front and the American flag, they were like, look at this piece of shit, bigot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then the back, they're like, oh, so he's cool. He's just honoring 9-11. Which is what we all should be doing, right? No, never forget. That's funny. If you getting looks like that, imagine what I would get. If you had the American flag on? Oh, my God.

Jesus. You would just look like... Go back to your country. I was born here. Just look like a dipset member. That is true. No, but I was really wondering why people were looking at me. Because the American flag now is...

You know, you just can't wear an American flag. That's crazy. But that changed. Because you were, well, I don't know in Harlem with the Bronx. But when 9-11 happened, you couldn't walk down my block without an American flag. If you didn't have an American flag in New York City, get the fuck out. Yeah, it definitely changed. You're with the terrorists.

Yeah, it changed over time. Like now you see people wearing American flag. You're like, oh, God. Which I'm one of those people too, though. So I'm like, Somebody wearing American flag? Hell yeah. I'm like,

that's 100% racist. But when you think about that, that's like really weird. It's insane. Like we, we're Americans. We should be wearing our flag if we choose to. Like, why is that a thing where people look at like, oh God,

here comes one of these crazies that's about to do something outlandish. And he's about to do something just to get attention and wants to cause a scene. It's just because I feel like outside of like maybe Hitler and Putin, no one really used outside of those two. Yeah. No one like really uses their country. as a way to do hateful things on the top of like it's for my flag right and it's like well let me

not say just them too it's a lot of other places but sure that's definitely become the picture of hey I'm just a patriot even though I want black people out of my country it's just because I'm a patriot it's like fam this ain't really your shit neither yeah I'm just happy that you're getting funny looks wearing an American flag that makes me feel like because we're in liberal it was liberal looks yeah that's all it was yeah it's just all it was yeah it's funny stares i know what you mean yeah whites are funny man you ever like thought about the term indian giver no you realize the whites we took yeah we took the shit right and then we coined the term indian giver as like yeah why you taking some shit back that i took yeah yeah yeah it's crazy

when you start to uncover a lot of shit that no indian take no we took it from y'all yeah yeah yeah like you took it that's no giving it back you took you can't give back what you took like that's just stupid but what you think about a lot of shit we used to say like growing up it's nuts some we used to say some sick shit this kids man like really really offensive shit but that's good to know that you know people in the streets of Manhattan are giving white people funny looks now I mean it's a hundred degrees so yeah I chalked it up to that and then here I am thinking it's a hundred degrees you're gonna need the fire department yeah some shit is gonna catch on fire

see we try like I'm trying to represent what's going on with the FD and Y right now I get it was in Tribeca right like I felt like I was honoring your part yeah you was doing your part honoring the lives that were lost yeah it's such a tragic event you're dressed very very New Yorker in Miami for the first or second time. A lot of teal. Yeah, I wanted to kind of give them a little summer vibe, man. It's the hot today.

It's hot today is different. Today is fucking hot. I almost called you like, oh, do we have to record? Yeah, yo fan. I'm like, you can we like go to a beach and record?

That'd be cool. Word. You know what I mean? Like by a pool or something? And we have to turn the AC off a lot in here because it gets too loud. Yeah. I was nervous.

I was nervous. But anyways, the weekend was pretty hot as well. How was your weekend? It was pretty chill. I was pretty chill. I got some stuff done around the crib. you know, packed up preparing to move.

You found a spy? Yeah, I did. I did. I mean, you don't have to say location. No, no, no, yeah. It's been a journey for you. Yeah, you know what it is? I'm very picky, bro.

Like, extremely, I've learned that about myself. I'm extremely picky. All right, well, actually, we just fell into this conversation. What's the type of shit when you look at apartments that's kind of the, no way am I going in this place? Even if I love it, there's always like, with me, it's closet space. I'm about to say, that's number one, especially in New York, closet space is a thing, especially when you have so much shit.

But I've given away so much. Like I've gotten rid of a lot of sneakers, a lot of clothes. It was so much shit. I'm a hoarder. I didn't realize that about myself. Like, but not like the nasty hoarder. Yeah.

I mean like I have clothes and sneakers that I keep telling myself I'm going to wear and I never wear. And I just started going through my stuff. And I was like, I said I was going to wear this two years ago, have never worn it. Let me get rid of it. And then when you look up and realize how much you got rid of, you're like, oh, I'm a hoarder. Yeah. I'm a hoarder. So closet space is a big thing.

You also don't dress like the guy that gets free clothes, and I know you get free clothes. So I know there's just packages of clothes. It's boxes that I've never opened. That's why I bought a storage space. Yeah, it's crazy. It's like, let me just give this stuff away to people. Let me get rid of it because I'm never going to wear it. But yeah, closet space is number one.

Wash and dry as I must. Now you're in money talk. Yeah, I have to have. That's not, we're not. You know what it is? When you get exposed to having certain things, you never go back. That's why I'm not mad. women date ballplayers it's like they're never going to date like i get it now i understand it it's like

when you just when you experience certain levels and certain things you're like i don't even know what life was like before this yeah and even like i can't dunk i could get money don't twisted but i'll never be able to dunk so like i just won't turn you on that type of way like the same the same way a dryer and washer right come on that turns me on yeah exactly like i can do my laundry at two in the morning if i want like this is like i'm never getting rid of this so that's another thing. You have to be good at folding though when you do that though. I love doing laundry. Oh, it's therapeutic to me. Oh my God. I love

doing laundry. I'm not a picmy but I like to clean. Yeah, I love clean. I love folding. That's like that's like a whole you know it just it's therapeutic like you said the whole process of that is just I love it. So yeah, washing, dryer and parking. Okay. Yeah, I get that. Parking. It's weird because I've been on a quest for a new spot as well and I've gotten

so good on these Zillos and the Trulias. This isn't an ad. All those sites that we love. that I treat as porn hub at 4 o'clock in the morning. I can tell exactly what the spot is like by the first picture of the kitchen. Very true. The moment I hit the kitchen, I don't need to see anything further

or I need to keep looking. That kitchen will tell you everything you need to know about a crew. One thing I don't know why they're still putting in these newer buildings because it's like a newer building. Why are they still giving us microwaves? Why do microwaves still come with? I don't use a microwave. Really?

No. Oh, I do. I use air fry. See? Like the air fry to me beats everything. That's the greatest invention in the last... I agree with you. 20 years easily.

I'm still repeating myself, but I'm a big advocate of it because I want to be documented that air fires are too good that in 30 years we're all going to have some type of cancer. Yeah, third arm. Because air friar cancer. It'll be A.F. cancer. It'll be somewhere in there. I don't like how they reheat. I love how they cook.

I hate how they reheat. Like, give me the horrible parts of a microwave. Whatever that shitty radioactive shit. radioactive shit that microwaves do makes my food heat up better. You know what it is? It's certain things. Like the air fryer obviously if you have leftover pasta and shit like that is kind of hard. But I found

out ways to heat it up in the air fry. You got to kind of just wrap it and foil. That's because you're a drug dealer. Yeah. I mean... Jokes. He's a podcast. Come on. A drug dealer would never wear these colors. You got to find ways

you got to find ways around it. So you got to you got to you're going to burn some shit. You're going to fuck up some food along the way. But you learn. You learn which settings to put it on with the air fry. So yeah. Are you a 390 guy or a 375 guy? I'm 375. That gives you time to be like, oh shit.

Like, I forgot I left it on. It always goes back to mall still using condoms. You just like you're scared to take risks. I'm a 390 guy. Like, I want the food. Let's cook the food. You sit in there checking it like, ooh, let me see what's cooking around the edges. Now put that shit on 390 and cook it. I think 375 it buys you an extra two minutes.

If you get a call or so. Yeah. Like it's like, and you forgot the shit was in there. Yeah. It's like, okay, it's safe because it's 375. 390. Food is fucked. You can't eat it now.

You're hungry. I'm a 390. I'm a risk ticker. No, I understand it. I'm 390. Sometimes you get an STD. Sometimes your food is burnt. Sometimes you burn it.

I see what you just. Come on. I was with Donna this weekend. I know how to wrap. See, then you are the food that's burning. I get it. I see, I like what you did right there. So yeah, I don't know why these newer condos are coming with

microwaves inside the kitchen still. I don't need it. And I hate looking at it when it's like installed in between the cabinets above the stove. It's like, why is this? I never use this. So that's one thing that I don't like. But yeah, the new spot is, it's going to be a vibe. Yeah, a spot I'm looking at now is like a condo house duplex thing.

And I'm terrified of my packages because I have a ring camera. And those that have a ring camera, it's like a Twitter timeline almost of everyone within a five mile radius that has a ring camera and you can report crimes. It's just like a snitching database. It's a snitching app. Yes. I like to call a concerned citizen base. It's the new neighborhood watch. It's really weird. That's all it is. Yeah, just minus George Zimmerman's fucking disgusting ass. Exactly. So they just upload shit all day. And mind you, Jersey City has its problems, but it's just people standing behind an Amazon truck stealing packages all fucking day. Right. The doorman is just the only way I think to live if you want to keep your Amazon

packages. But the ring app, what I do like about it is I think it does deter a lot of people from trying to steal shit from your porch. Not in Jersey City. Oh, they still go for? They be smiling in that shit. They be posing. They're like, hey, hey, this is yours. I got your shit.

Yeah. Yeah, I like the ring app, though. I like the ring app. My home boy has it, and he was showing me how, like, you can literally not be at home and you can talk to people from wherever you at. I talk to. I talk to Basley all the time. Yeah. You don't have the camera inside your crib that spits out the treats that you can

press the button and it throws treats up? I don't even know about that. Yeah. They have a thing. It's a camera and then you could also throw treats out of it. No, but that's how I win my love over from Basley. I don't want her to start fucking with the machine. Oh, you rather her wait for you to come in?

Yeah, like I want to be the one. Yeah. I want to spoil her. That feeling of a dog, like when you first walk in and a dog going crazy when it sees you. Oh yeah. She rolls over rubber tummy. Like, it's the greatest feeling. You just need that when you walk in.

What? I stayed in Atlanta way too long. I was saying, like, though, I had to get back to Basley. Yeah. I don't care about this work. It's a real thing, though. 100%. Like, when you're out of town, like, I know a lot of people that have pets, and it's crazy

how much people really, like, think about their pets when they're away from home. Like, they don't think about their family and their relatives and their mom. No, that's like... That's stress. Yeah. That's problems. That's needs. Yeah.

Your dog just needs to run around, laugh, bark and shit. Right. And love you. I think we're the same way. We've overcomplicated. Yeah. I think, I understand why women call those dogs. I get it now.

But how was Atlanta? Atlanta was interesting. I was supposed to go down to Atlanta. We recorded last Wednesday. That's why it's felt so long since I've seen you since we've recorded. Recorded on Wednesday. I went down to Atlanta on Thursday for a session with my guy, Shelley, shout out to Shelley. I was on the flight, saw a gentleman that I knew, and he said to me, you're flying down for the Kanye shit.

And I said, what Kanye shit? He's doing a concert. I said, I thought he already did one. Yeah. Doing another one. Yeah. So then I got really insecure while I was sitting in my seat thinking, everyone thinks I'm going to fly down to Atlanta for the Kanye concert.

So now when anyway, I land in Atlanta airport. We have a lot of listeners in Atlanta. We've done a lot of shows down there. It's a big market for us. I'm in the airport where people say, yo, Paul, you're out for the Kanye shit? Now everyone thinks I flew from New York City to Atlanta for a Kanye West concert. Yeah, yeah. And I love Kanye, but I was very insecure about that.

I go to my session with Drum chilling whatever Look I forgot you had a session with Jerome That fast I went We were late So I went right with my bags To the session

We finish up And here I am Trying to avoid it like I'm not going to that concierge Yeah yeah yeah I'm not going to that shit Everyone go on my phone I'll see you in town

Like you want to roll with Like you want to grab a drink before Let's do dinner I'm like Yeah Nah Are y'all going to that shit Yeah yeah

Yeah Should get closer and closer and let me go check this shit out let me go see what he's doing yeah let me see what type of time he on yeah just for the pod right I really I forgot he was doing something too though I really didn't know this was on Thursday that I found out so I go over to the arena

shout out to the LVRN guys they had whole the suite and all that so it made the experience very easy but it was quite it was quite the spectacle to say it looked like it I hear a lot of people saying that were at both saying this the second one was better than the first one I didn't watch or go to the first one

but this second one, it was really good as far as how quickly I guess they had to throw that together with him trying to make the album and put this entire performance together. Music-wise, a lot of records were hard to hear because you could clearly hear they were still working on them

and they weren't mixed quite there yet. So it was a lot of bass. But the visuals were really good. They had everyone dressed in all-black running in fucking circles for seven hours. It definitely looked a little eyes-wise shutish. Oh, yeah. which I mean, you know what Kanye is going to be that.

But that should be the new workout. The P90X, yay workout. They was just running in circles and the shit looked amazing. But it was more, I noticed, it was more of a spectacle for the people. Like, you were just watching to be a part of it, which I'm not saying is a bad thing at all. But it was, I think, a way for people to try to connect

to being part of the album. And as much as I've killed this rollout, and I'm not saying I'm not going to continue to kill it. I think that's what they were trying to get across. And I do understand. it more. I feel like everyone in there felt like, okay, I'm part of making this album because it's so incomplete, because it's so random from the first one, because these visuals kind of look, not just put together right away, but, you know, they weren't overcomplicating them.

Yeah, that type of way. Yeah. And a lot of the time, it was, it was a concert I've been to where everyone was talking to each other the entire time. And I don't mean that they weren't listening. Yeah. But it was, it was the most critical concert I've ever been. That shit was whack. No, I like this part. This bar. Everyone became the internet exec. wow, they were sitting in the seat, which I think was kind of cool. I wasn't even mad at it. But yeah, it was an interesting night. Interesting night.

It sounded. I watched it. I had it on the TV and I was watching it and listening to it. The music sounds good. I think the stream probably got a better idea. Yeah, the music sounded good. I was happy to hear that he had Flue the Locksdown and had them on one of the tracks. That was really dope.

visually visually it was like you know it was a little like I said a little eyes wide shutish it was like felt a little cultish type of thing

but I guess you know that's Kanye and that's you know he has a cult a cult following I definitely text my mom during during it

I told I was at the concert and I was like mom you raised me in the Catholic church I know when God is in the building definitely feels like the devil was in this place

yeah it felt a little it was a little dark it was all black very Christian Like, yeah, everybody's in all black. And listen, man, I love Kanye. He's a, you know, he's a super visual artist. And I get it.

You know what I mean? You got to kind of go into his world to understand him sometimes and understand the art that he's presenting. But I think just, you know, it was, again, I'm not, you can save all of that. Just give me the music. I'm still on that side of it. But I understand it. You know what I mean?

I get it. This is the way he wants to, you know, present itself and separate himself from everything else. He doesn't want to look like anybody else. He doesn't want to sound like anybody else. Which I can. respect. But yeah, the music sounded good. I'm just waiting for it. I'm hearing reports that he made $7 million from that event. Did he really? That's what I'm hearing. I know the Gap jacket release made some crazy amount of money. Oh, he had one of those jackets on. Yeah, the black

jacket was on. When he was being raised into heaven? Well, I mean, if people really want to believe that that was Kanye being raised to the style, I can assure you that people from the Gap and Adidas were standing And they're like, you are not getting wired up and get pulled to the top of this arena. It was not happening. Yeah, he was sitting in the locker room watching like, damn. Hope they don't drop, dude. Yeah. But even that, you know, visually, like I said, it's a little, we can get it to the whole

religious thing of it and the whole, you know, that whole aesthetic. But, you know, again, I understand Kanye is just Kanye and he wants to always give people something that they've never seen from an artist's perspective and visually. So I understand it. I get it. But just give me the music, man. I'm ready for the music. Like I said, it sounded good. The production was great. Jay Electronica's verse was crazy. On the Deluxe record. Yeah, like his verse was crazy. Yeah, I just want to hear the music, man. I don't know when he's dropping. You know, people are still having rumblins about him and Drake kind of, you know, having to stare off. Still stand by that theory. Oldheartedly. According to, I think it's on Apple that Kanye uploaded it.

I think it was 14 or 15 songs. It says all. August 15th. Yeah. But again, we don't know that to be true. I know he's going over to... August 20th. Oh, now it's his August 20th. Mm-hmm.

Okay. I know he was going over to the State Farm Arena now. Yeah. That was announced, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So he's moving arenas because I'm sure that Falcon Stadium kind of sick of his shit. Yeah.

Wrap up your little mixtape, bro. Go make another $7 million. You know what I mean? Like, people, again, I... Listen, if I'm Kanye, like, now I will say this. I kind of think I do like the eye. idea of previewing your album like this. Something to me, I like this.

I like the idea of an artist. But again, you have to be an artist of this magnitude, of course, which not many of the artists are. But if you present your album before it actually comes out with a full show, like a concert or like, you know, something like this and the music is good. I think it does build a crazy anticipation for the album. This is only built for... It's a select few. And I'm taking away my original theory of like only rich people could do this because that's just a given.

But even if you did a smaller show, this is only built for artists that I don't want to say don't give a fuck about fans' opinions, but are making the music that they want to make. I think a lot of artists are way too insecure to make an album, go perform it and then get reactions and then have the ability to change it before it goes out. Of course. Of course. I think we would never get albums from 95% of it. Well, that's why I said it's a select few that can do this. But I do like this. This is built for people that truly believe in their vision and know that the public will like it because this is my shit.

Yeah. I'm going to do it my way. And if I like it, great if you don't, whatever. Yeah. I can see so many artists trying to do their shit. Yeah. That's a crowd being like, yo. That ain't it.

But like right to your face. Yeah. You're like, no, fan. This ain't the one. Yeah. Which may help a lot of artists. Yeah, for sure. I just think artists are too insecure as they should be.

Yeah, I mean, people are especially when, like you said, artists are. They're sensitive about their craft and their work. I understand that. But I do like this, though. I think it's a cool way to kind of, you know, put your music out there and let people know what's coming and what to expect from you. Like I said, only a few artists are, you know, in a position where they can do this type of thing.

But again, man, you know, just give me the music. I do like the fact if him and Drake are actually having to stare off and, you know, playing chicken with each other, who's going to drop. And I like it. Like, I like the fact that Drake and Kanye may release the same day. Like, why not? It's the streaming area. It doesn't matter anymore.

It's not like people have to physically go out and buy albums anymore. The same place I'm going to be at buying Kanye or streaming Kanye's album is more than likely the same position I'm going to be in buying Drake's or streaming. I'm going to be home on the couch, watch a TV, pick up my phone, press download. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's not, I don't have to run out to the store and physically grab an album anymore. Yeah, but it's different with the, how streaming is. It's just the ego. I want the number one streamed album for a week.

But you're also going to listen to it no matter what, right? because it's right there. Yeah. How streaming works, you got, you got a damn near play something 10 times for your stream to even count.

You personally have to play some shit damn near 10 times for that shit to even count. So it's like, yeah, if I went to the CD store and it was Drake's and Yeh, Donda, Certified Loverboy, and I was like, I'm gonna buy both.

If I don't like certified lover boy, still own it, still sound scan. Oh, that's, that's scanned. Yeah, still sound scam. If I listen to Certified Lover Boy once and you don't like it, probably not really going to count like that. So there is some competition later in rather than, all right, we're dropping on the same day.

Let's see who could run it up the same. It's going to matter on the music at the end of the day still. Of course, there's going to be the streaming farms in Minnesota. Yeah. But these are two of the most established artists in the world. Ever. Like the numbers that they're going to do on a solo release date, like if Drake doesn't drop the same day, to me, they're going to do the same numbers. And what a beautiful way to end that riff that they had.

Yeah. Let's just put an album out on the same day. But, you know, the Kanye fans were definitely killing me because I saw there was that report that Kanye's back catalogs streamed like seven billion times in anticipation of Donda. Yeah, that's a shit. I told you Kanye has fans. I was like, I never said Kanye didn't have fans. I just said I think fucking when Drake is a problem in the streaming era, which is a scientific fact. Not my opinion.

Right. Drake is the most streamed artist of all times. Yeah, it's a little tough. My bad for saying that. We can't argue that. That's the fact. That's the numbers are there. We understand that.

I just want to make sure people saying I'm not backtracking because that rollout is still only made for rich people. And I saw Drake, creative geniuses, but rich people. And I saw Drake posted a notebook with LB, I guess, for a certified level boy on it. He was doodling. He was sketching in his notepad. Yeah, he was giving us a little hint like it's done, I guess. The album is on the way.

Well, LeBron let us know, though. I mean, that's all I need. He wants to Braun tell you that means it's on the way. Or we may need a few more records if Braun's. involved. Yeah. Either way, man, I'm waiting for the music. I, you know, I think that we're going to have a great,

is it still fourth quarter? We consider August, September, fourth quarter? No. Still? September's fourth quarter, right? No. Third, for sure. Really?

August is to end the second. Okay. Yeah, third. Fourth is in October, November, and December and December. Okay. Yeah, no, we're still second, third area. But more importantly, an album that did actually come out. Nah, King Disease, too.

which has not come off repeat since Thursday at midnight. Listen, man, I... We left that show and just kept that album on repeat. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. It's really, really good. It's starting out...

I mean, Death Row East is the second record. The pressure is great as an intro. Death Row East, I do appreciate artists of Naz's age and amount of time in the game to tell certain stories. Because I feel like with the Internet and the amount of people that... we give a microphone to. So many stories can be told by people that was just like kind of around. And they can kind of get some notoriety off it. And also it's interviewers that we know have alternative motives in the types of interviews that they're doing.

So when Nas does this death row East record kind of explaining the real situation with Pock, because that's been circling around the internet forever. Certain shit with stretch. Like, I like that era of artists really telling these stories. to just put a nail in the coffin on certain shit. Because it's just become a career for so many people that have platforms to interview people and so many people that was just kind of around. Yeah.

To tell the story and now all of a sudden it's truth. Yeah, I have a lot of people close to me, family that were around during that era. And some of my mentors and people that I speak to that were actually there. So I've heard the stories and, you know, the real stories around that whole. quad studio night and the whole park era in new york era for many years um a lot of shit i would never speak on yeah you know what i mean but it's you know it's unfortunate that a lot of things surrounding that are false there's a lot of things are surrounding that that i think if the public knew it would uh change a lot of perspectives it would have it would actually help a lot of people

you know understand exactly how delicate and how how sensitive that situation was. And it's unfortunate because you understand too when you know the real stories how just simple conversations could have avoided a lot of that shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like a lot of situations where it's like if this person would have just reached out to this person and had a conversation, that shit wouldn't even went that far.

And, you know, so hearing Nas talk about it. And the way he talked about it on the album, it was dope. I like the fact that, you know, he put that out there. I've heard him speak on that, I think, before. He's brought it up briefly. things but I think he finally gave the full story. I never knew the, when he went out to Vegas to shoot the street dreams video,

which is one of my favorite videos off the casino shit. Yeah. That he was also going out there to talk with Pac about that. We've all heard the Central Park in some degree. But that, I never knew that part. And it kind of just shows you like, we think we have enough time to squash it with people. Yeah, you just never know.

That shit could happen right away. Yeah. And I love that he said that stretch part. like you got to think people running around doing these interviews and shit like you got to know people still have families like absolutely that probably still are close but pox family it's like you run around talking that like my family members set right you someone up he loved right come on yeah it's irresponsible and it's corny so i think it's great that this generation is starting to tell those real story that that was actually there yeah rather than have people run around doing interviews

from people that obviously have motives when they ask these people. Yeah, a lot of people like to keep bullshit going and all of that. Exactly. I do like the fact, like you said, Nas put that out there. And, you know, I hope that more and more, you know, of the truth and true stories around that time and that era of hip hop start to come out surrounding some of our artists that we lost. And, you know, what really happened in those situations. I love the fact that Nas are dressed reaching back to the younger generation of artists.

how he was against that for a while and was like, you know what, I got to accept my role in my position now as, it's just new leaders now. Exactly. I forgot the exact bar. It was something against I was against doing pictures. Now I got to understand this new leader.

Exactly. Exactly. So I love the fact that he's doing that. Imagine Nas on a, what beat did he say on a drill beat or something like that. Then he said, Oosie on a Primo beat. Yeah,

it's like, you know, it's just showing that, why can't we do that? Like, why does it have to be a separation in the era and the generation of artists? It's like, you know what I mean?

So I like with the message he presented on this album. Especially in New York City. Yeah, yeah. The production is A1. You know, him and hit boys seem to have found a really, really amazing pocket and groove with each other. Yeah, this one felt, again, felt just as a fan, felt easier for them to make. Like, I'm sure with every album, they all overthink things. So I don't want to insult them in that way.

I know they overthought this in that capacity, but it also feels like they kind of just let shit fly like, all right, this is a great beat, you rap. Right, right. No overthinking on this one. We'll switch a beat here and there, but if you find a pocket on this, let's just keep it. Yeah.

Let's not overthink this. And again, you know, it's coming off of the success of King's Disease winning, you know, Grammy for a rap album of the year. It's kind of like, now they understand, and they see like, okay, people are receiving this. And then, you know, again, I attribute a lot of, you know, the new found love for lyricism to the success of what people like Reselda were able to do as far as just straight raw lyrics rapping.

Like, that seems to be appreciated more now instead of just hooks and beats. So artists like Nas, like he alluded to, I'm a legacy act, or they say I'm a legacy act. Like, this is what stay and do what you do. You don't have to go too crazy. You don't have to, you know, experiment too much. Sometimes try it. But, you know, for the most part, just be who you've always been. Just be one of the greatest lyricists, deliver a message.

Yeah. And give it to the people. You still get like on Kings of These 1 with Favio and Ferg, the spicy record. Yeah. When I saw that on paper, I was like, yeah, cool. And then that shit came on. And it was like, we love this. This makes sense.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And like I said, you have to, what he said about working with the younger artists and being a, you know, a role model and being a guy that reaches back to them and helps them and all of that type of. That's what you need in hip hop. Like we got to be we got to stop being so divided and you know feel like oh you know these young dudes is that as an older dude it's your job to reach back. It's your job to guide and help with their generation because at one point like I said, I remember when gang quote unquote gangster rap like my mother didn't want me listening to Snoop. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I had to sneak and listen to doggy style. You know what I'm saying? Now you look at who Snoop is today. You look at who Dr. Dre is today like. Yeah. It's like you know people you're going to be young. You're going to learn.

You're going to make mistakes. But you're going to grow in. So it's important to give these younger artists and this younger generation to just be there for them and guide them. But let them be who they are. Let them have their experiences. Let them have their ups and downs. But don't, you know, separate yourself and say, oh, these young dudes, they don't know what they're doing. They're crazy.

They don't listen to nobody. No, it's just because there's a device of energy and they feel like they can't talk to a nah. So they can't talk to. It's like they don't fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? It's like if we get rid of that. Yeah. Like if we get rid of that and say nah, like talk to me.

Hit me. If you want some guidance, you want some help, you know, if any way I can help. I'll do that. We got to start being more together in this culture because that's what hip hop is in the first place. And tell you exactly where I fucked up and where it's special in the business. Don't want to do that. Yeah, do this. Just looking at 9 through 11

features, Lauren Hill, Charlie Wilson and then blast. Right. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. That's fucking perfect to me. Yeah. Great album man. I love it. Few of the homies are saying it's better than King's Disease 1. I don't know yet. I love King Disease. But I think this one

and I'm kind of running out the gate with it, but that's just I've had this shit on repeat. What did you think of Lauren's verse? She killed it. She addressed being late and all of this other. You know what I mean? It's like, it lets you know, like, I'm, I hear everything they say about me. You know what I mean? I know, but this is what I'm, this is what I've been doing.

Her excuse for being late was great, by the way. I'm saving souls. She's right. But still, like, I pay my ticket, though. But she's saving souls, fam. You can't argue with somebody. You know what's like, I was saving souls. saving souls outside.

How do you argue with that? I was saving souls. That's how, that's why I was late. You're right. Listen. That's all you could say. If I have a back end deposit

and you tell me you're saving souls, I might keep my money. You say you're keeping that back in? Hell yeah. Yeah. No, but she killed that, man. This shit was, this shit was unbelievable.

Yeah. Like, I'm going to sound like a dick rider just because I'm a Lauren Stan, but the fact that you could, and I'm not saying she's disappeared from music because I'm sure she makes music all the time.

and just doesn't put it out. But when you in shape like this, rapping real quick, that's a little different. Yeah, but this is a little... Like every last bar said something. Like, there was no fillers to get to the next bar. Yeah.

From the beginning to the end, every last bar connected with the end of the song. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I like what Nah said, you know, me and Miss Hill, we're not going nowhere. Like, I like that. Yeah.

It's like, yo, we're not, we're still here, but we're on our time. We're going to do it when we want to do it. We're going to create when we want to create. We're going to drop when we want to drop. And that's the way it should be. You know what I mean? That's the way it should be.

I love as simple as that line was, I thought I told you that I get out. Because I get out is one of my favorite Lauren Hill songs. Right. Love that record unplugged. How we are not listening. And it made me start to think of like artists that I love to death that I've expected too much from and like I should be their priority because I'm a fan and want music.

Like, fam, you talk. told me. Right. I get out like I get out of your box. I don't want to be here. Right. Type of fan are you. Right. You know, listen. I tried to tell you. Yeah. It's right there in the music. It's right there in the music. Yeah, I love this album, man. I love it. I don't know if I'm on, I don't know if I'm ready to say it's better than King disease. King's disease, but yeah. It's, this is a very, very good follow up for sure. It was nice to know that that Nas is still in these bitch's DMs. I mean, listen, man. I gotta stop using that word.

It's nice to know that Nas is still in these women's DMs and still going, I shouldn't be in here, but still stays. But you know what's really funny the line that all women seem to hang on on the album is, check your zeal. It's a blessing in it. They missed all the science before that. I said, ah, because I'm grooving. I'm like, yeah, Nas, talk that talk.

And then it got to, you know, check your zeal. There's a blessing in it. I'm like, nah, you're about to put us behind the eight ball because now every, all these chicks are going to want a blessing. They're going to want to wake up to a blessing in their zeal account. And it's crazy. you need like a real bank account for Zell and all the chicks I talk to don't have one. That's a joke.

It's a joke. Oh, man. That's great. But no, it's a great album. But no, it's a great album, man. King's Disease 2. Stream it if you haven't heard it.

I don't know what you've been listening to if you're not listening to this album. But great album. Shout out the hit boy. Shout out to Naz. He flew over in Tiga and Shorty said, and I want to stay a few more days. Can you blame it, though? I got shit to do.

That's true. That is true. Nah's got to mess with women that have like a lot to lose. That's just how I feel. I think we all should though. Yeah, but him a little bit more than me. Yes, he's Nas, you're Rory. It's a little, it's just a little.

It's just a little. It's a slight edge on you. Nal's got a slight edge on you. Yeah, but we with it off, Nause. I'm sorry. I love this album so much and I'm obsessed with Nause. people be too cool these days and don't act like fans or act like, you know, you can't even say the word big bro anymore or like, you know, you're less of a man.

I can tell the story now that the album is out. I was in L.A. working on something and it was in the same studio space as where hit boy was and great studio, by the way. I love that studio. Beautiful studio. And I text him. I was just like, yo, I'm about to head out of the session. I'm in the same little area you are.

if you're in the studio, I'll say what up before I leave. And he's like, hey, I bet, come through. So I walked down, and I was immediately met with, like, a woman that looked like she could fight. Okay. She was like, where the fuck you think you're going? I was like, I'm going down to Hit Boys Studio, like four doors down from where I was. And she was like, he knows you coming? I was like, yeah.

So she went away and came back and was like, all, you good. And I was like, that was fucking weird. Studio space is usually a really cool, free. run around type of shit. I open that fucking door. It's just hit boy and Nas. And I know people like, I know I'm a fan at the end of the day. The reason I got into the music business at 19 or even continued to really want to do podcast

so I could talk about music. Like, I'm a fan. Right. That shit was crazy to me. I know people are too cool to see if they see their heroes. Just walking in and seeing Nas and not expecting it. It's a little bit. Like, that shit was nuts to me.

Granted, I just shut the fuck up and sat in the corner. but because I know how to move in certain rooms. But like that was kind of crazy. I just wish people would feel more comfortable, like, not fanboying out like in a setting. Right. Like, know how to move in it. But be okay to admit like, you know, that was kind of, that was nuts. Like that was nuts to me.

Right. Like this seat was on my wall as a child. Yeah. And then I just walk in a studio and it's just him. And you don't, and not, especially when you're not expecting to just walk in and see. Yeah. That's, that's, you know, again. And we now with social media and, you know, us feeling like we have to be a part of these

people's daily lives and know what they're doing and stuff like that. You know, a lot of people see people that they love or they follow and they grow up watching now. And it's hard not to have a fan out moment. Yeah. I just don't take this shit for granted, I guess is all I'm saying. Because I feel like the mentality we have to have in this put everything in your face shit is we have to act cool.

Like everything is normal. Like, nah, fat, that was amazing. I don't take this shit for granted. I don't think that's regular that I walked in and was that. And granted, did anything happen? Did nothing but a few conversations happening that shit? Did ain't work, get done? No.

But was that, I don't take that shit for granted that I was able to be in that position. Like, that shit is amazing to me. Well, I'm happy. I think people be acting too fucking cool sometimes. Yeah, no. I'm happy that you had that moment with Nas. I mean, it wasn't much of a moment. I'm just fucking with it.

it wasn't much of a moment we spent some time in there but but that was it like it wasn't like it was cool I mean they was playing music like I got to hear

the Lauren verse that was really cool and threw me off because like you know a lot of people start yo I'm about to play this and it's featuring this like they give you the whole rundown

just playing shit and like when you just hear Lauren's verse or just her voice it was like yeah what the fuck where am I at right now like wow

how am I in this position and this type of shit just not act so fucking cool sometimes, man. Sometimes it's okay to really feel like this is a blessing. Like this, I don't take this shit for granted at all. I'm really happy to be in this place that I could do this type of shit.

I struggled with that a lot. Like, you know, what people say I'm too cool. I act too cool. But I really am. This is just the way I am. But I do understand that it's a lot of positions that I'm in and places that I'm privy to be in. And I look back like maybe I took that for granted. That's not normal That that's not supposed to happen

You know what I mean But it's just again man You just I look at everybody Like You know we're all human He just has a talent that You know Most don't have

Or she has a talent That most don't have And that's the difference But I don't you know But you can admire that though Oh yeah no I absolutely I admire it I give flowers

You know I've always been that person Like you know Huge fan Love what you do I don't But pass that You know

Picture this stuff Oh no no no I don't know. Of course, not any of that. That's why I said I could finally, because this story, this happened like March. Yeah. I remember March or some shit. So no, it's not that. Because I do feel that the same way outside of people that you would deem celebrities or entertainers or people that make music. I still feel that same feeling. It's just sometimes people really just, it's okay to feel that way. Yeah. Because I spent so much of my time in my career focusing on the next moment and not living in the moment. I know it sounds. super corny but like there's rooms I've been in where I was really doing work and getting and contributing getting shit done that I took for complete granted yeah all I have now is a vain memory of it because I was not living in the moment at all when it happened right and I felt like I didn't take I took the opportunity and went with it in a really good way but I didn't take the moment I took the moment for granted yeah I took it as all right this is going to push my

career this is going to push my talent this is going to push that shit and that's I don't know I think artists I think I'm trying to do more of that. Yeah, I think artists and celebrities respect that though. Yeah. Like, because obviously, you, as a celebrity, you know when someone is a fan. You can kind of, they walk in the room, you can kind of tell, but you respect the fact that they don't make it awkward. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, just don't make it awkward. Just be cool. Say what's up? You know what I mean? But don't make it awkward. No, of course. Because I've been around people I was a huge fan of and I'm like, I'm trying not to be awkward. No, this is coming from somebody that walked in that room and was, yeah, what's up? Pleasure.

like in chilled. This was all internal. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I tell you the time about my Serena Williams moment, corniest moment in my life. I completely fumbled the ball. But it's okay.

Like, you know what I mean? It is what it is. Like, I didn't know. I didn't know, but I learned. Oh my God. Now it just hit me. Now I realized why you were so cool at that Drake concert. Why was I so cool at the Drake concert?

Because Serena was there and you didn't want to do it twice? Was she there? I didn't see it. Was she there? Now, I didn't even realize she was there. I didn't realize she was there. No, no, don't do that. Because I'm not even trying to do that.

Honestly, I had no idea that she was there. I didn't see her. I didn't see. But it was like, what are you supposed to do at a concert? Give me concert. Enjoy the music, man. That's what I was doing. Yeah, but you enjoyed it too like, you know.

You wanted me to start dancing to Drake's lyrics? Like, what did you want me to do? That's so. I was understood. He was putting on a performance. And I was watching it and I was enjoying it. Bob your head at least. I was bobbing my head.

I gave the little flip, flip when he was doing. You know what I'm saying? Switch, switch. I gave him a little ad lib. I was on the ad lib. ads with them, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't on the mains. I was on the ads.

You can't go to the concert and be on the mains with the artist. You got to add. Nah, I got to be on the mains. Nah, do the ad. You can't be at the concert yelling the whole verse. You got to hit the ads. You know what I'm saying? Not when he shouts out SOBs and plays, say what's real in the garden.

No, I'm on the mains. Yeah, no, that was a great show, though. I think about that concert a lot. That was a really, really great show. But when you're on the mains, though, with that concert etiquette, if you come to the show with a girl and you're on the mains a little too much. Yeah, it's nasty. You got to pull back just a little bit.

Yeah, I can turn off. Especially if you're not sure if she's fucked. Oh, my God. That's another conversation. Or if you ran into her and y'all started vibing and you wondered how she got the tickets. And now you just, you're rapping his back catalog a little too well. And you know the B-Sides, sir? Yeah, like you got to have, you can't go too crazy at the concert.

There's a man, like you can't be, because we was at the show, like, it was a dude that was in the section. You know, he was, he was sweating from performing. And I'm like, fam, I love the show. It's a great show. I love that record as well. But you're going a little crazy. You can't do that, especially if you were a young lady. You've got to keep some of the cool, fam.

You have to. Stay on the ad lips. I didn't even relate, I didn't know this song. Never heard this tune before. Yeah, like stay on the ad lives, give a little, you know, crowd participation. Wait, actually, no. What is crap? Yeah, like, that's another thing you can't do.

No, no, no. Let me take that back. Fellas, you cannot be at a concert. And if the artist says, yo, if you got more than $100 in your pocket, make some noise, you can't start screaming. Well, we've seen where that path has taken somebody. But neither here nor there. Have you ever made noise, though, when an artist has said, make some noise? No.

Neither way. I've never made noise. I've lost a lot of pride in my life. I still have that little bit. Yeah, I'm not making noise. I'm not yelling when the artist has made some noise. Like, I'm not doing that. And I don't even know how to make noise.

Like, I don't know what my pitch is going to sound like. You sound nasty. Like, what key are we in? I have no idea how to make noise. I have zero clue how to make noise. Like, what key do you yell at that? Yeah. I have no idea how to make noise.

How do you make noise? Like, and making a random noise is just nasty. Like, what noise do you want me to make, sir? Like, I've heard the annoying chick behind you scream high-pitch in here. And that sounds. better than I think what would come out of my mouth. I'm not doing it. If Drake say, yo, New York City

makes some noise. I'm like, yeah. Oh, yeah. What a show. Let's get it all. This is just WWE? What are you here for? You can't fucking noise, man. Get out of here. I'm not making no noise. Get it to the next fucking record, man. I'm not making noise at your show. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

Conch, you have to have etiquette at a show. You have to understand what you're doing. lose your cool fellas especially if you were a young lady you could ruin the night you could ruin the night for yourself doing the wrong shit yelling the wrong shit rapping too much you know it's just like yo be cool relax order something to drink and just chill let's pull the timeline i do want to ask our uh women listeners have they ever been at a concert and dude one was making noise if not was just rapping a little too much how did it end was just giving a little too much energy and you yeah pussy got dry immediately listen i like travis scott too yeah but

relax calm down what i see you have his sneakers on you didn't need to wear those today you could have that's nasty that's nasty that's nasty if you go to the travis show with travis scots on your feet that's disgusting you cannot do that's what fans do maw yeah but no no man fuck that you cannot go to a Travis scott concert wearing Travis scott sneakers i want to know what shorty would feel like if you on the way out went to the merch table and didn't cop her nothing just copped yourself a t-shirt again it's over your night is ruined it's over for you It's over. You can't talk your way out of that.

No. Because naturally looking at you like, oh, he's a fanboy. Girls don't like, women don't like fanboys. They don't like fans. So it wouldn't it works if I copped the don't of bulletproof? Nah. And took Shorty out. Nah.

That would have been that. To the afties. That would have been nasty. Bulletproof. That's nasty. Nasty behavior. You can't do that. I'm a nasty person.

Yeah, but no, you nasty in another way. Like, you don't, don't be nasty like in public. Don't do that. Don't move nasty. I'm a sick person, though. are you i have i don't feel well all the time i have very dark thoughts a lot i'm just a weird person you don't really want to hear them i don't mind that takes the blood um okay a little weird but okay i've also thought that ted bundy might have done numbers on tinder

well women women did seem to be a little attracted to him i guess i don't i don't know where you're taking this but okay When I was growing up, the way that my mom used to really trigger me was she would tell me you're just like your father. And then when I grew up, we were in a small house. So I know she could hear me having sex. And I always wondered if she thought the same thing. All right. Well, I mean, that's all the way weird.

But sure. My bad. The lights back on. Oh. That got weird. Should I have not expressed those things? That was a little, I mean, listen, man, those are your thoughts? You know, I'm not, I'm not judging you.

No, I blacked out for a second. Yeah, we need to, we need to talk more often. I need to know more about what's on your mind a little more. I mean, you know. But, yeah, listen, you know, your thoughts are your thoughts. I'm sure, you know, I have some dark thoughts as well. But that's for another day. Yeah, that's for a whole other day.

Yeah, you know, nothing different. But anyways, outside of that, because I feel like we were on music for a very, very long time. Your man Cuomo. Yes, he's out of there. Got a little handsy. Yeah, I mean, you know, he said he blamed it on his Italian upbringing and just said he put out a video. And that's another, that was just weird. They put out a compilation video of him just touching a lot of people.

Well, I felt like the baby and the governor of New York could have cleaned their shit up so much easier than they did. Well, yes. What they did was completely wrong. But doubling down, because that's what Cuomo did. Yeah. He doubled down. He doubled down.

They put out the compilation video of him touching men, children, rubbing their face and rubbing their head. And, you know, he tried to make it seem like he's just a, you know, a hands-on type of guy, not in a sexual way. And I do know some people like that. They, you know, they rub your face and, you know, know stuff like that. I remember I went to a Christmas dinner years ago with my girlfriend. Are these your dark thoughts?

No, this is not my thoughts. And she's, she's Italian. Yeah, she's Italian. And so her family, you know, Italian. And one of her uncles, first time I ever met him, sitting at the table eating. Called you the M word. Not the N word. The M word. For those Italians out there, you know what that word is. He walked up to me. He said, oh, it's a pleasure to meet you. And he shook my hand. And he kissed me on my cheek. And I was just like, okay, a little weird.

But, you know, I get it. That's what you do in your culture. You know what I mean? But just don't do it again. You know what I mean? But so I understand where Cuomo was maybe sort of trying. But you got to understand the position that Cuomo was in. And, you know, it's very, very.

He said, I didn't know where they drew the line. That's what I'm saying. So it's. He said, all the women told the drew. if he said, yeah, no, I did that shit. He was accused of just grabbing chick's titties in the workplace. Like, I didn't. Where was the line at?

He tried to say that he was trying to read something on her shirt. Still, you don't grab somebody's shirt when you're trying to read something. Put some glasses on her, bro. Exactly. Like, you don't grab somebody's shirt when you're trying to read something on their shirt, especially a woman. But, yeah, so, you know, he had to resign. He had to step down. And they're replacing him with having our first female governor in New York.

What is her name? I'm sorry. Pull it up. I had to ask a. I had asked my trainer. I said, who comes next? I don't know. I know there's the vice president.

Yeah. I went to public school. I don't really know who exceeds the governor. Yeah, this is new fall of us. The attorney general? Kathy. Hachel? Hocel.

We're ignorant. Don't mind us. I don't know how to pronounce the last name. I'm sorry. As two residents of New York. Yeah. I'm sorry. I don't, you know.

Clearly our city's in good hands with us leading the charge here. Governor. We don't even know who comes next. Governor Hocel. is the new governor of New York, the state of New York. How'd you feel about, this is what it is? I mean, Andrew Cuomo, that's just going to be what it is. He did some nasty shit and should leave.

Since I guess we're in no way in journalism, and I really wouldn't consider us in media either. But we talk to people in front of a camera. So Chris Cuomo is kind of in our realm. He's in media. He could be a colleague. at the right party. Yeah.

Depending on where we're at, music that's playing. Yeah. How he handled this shit was the most irresponsible shit I've ever seen in my entire life. Well, how was he

supposed to handle? It's his brother. Of course it is. How was he supposed to handle it? Hey, I'm getting on camera. I've been covering every nasty experience ever for the past of many years.

I've acted holier than thou for everyone that ever did anything wrong. This is my brother, that's my family. I'm going to be biased. So someone else is going to cover this. Okay. Probably the first party wouldn't do.

But if I was at CNN, I would have said, yo, you need to get on that camera and say, hold heartedly, that's my family. There's no way I cannot be biased in the situation. Yeah. I should not be covering the news today, tomorrow for quite some time. Don't get on there and just read the news. Like, can you believe the heat wave? Yeah. Can't act like it didn't happen.

Yeah. Someone else needs to do that. That's some real biased bullshit. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's in a fortunate position for him to be in, you know, everything that was happening with his older brother and him having to cover media and he's been covering everything for however long. So, you know, it would kind of, I think that people would be mad at him for not wanting to cover that. They were like, oh, now you don't want to cover it because it's your brother. You don't want to, you're going to be biased.

I respect him if he would have said that. Dude, just said, just that shit. But again, you know, it's my brother, but I wasn't there. I don't know what happened. You know what I mean? it's kind of like, I don't know what happened. I don't know if he did or he didn't do it. Which, no, that's totally fine, but you can't just come on the air of a place.

And act like it didn't happen. Like, where you've covered everything for so long. And then the moment some shit happens, they're like, you got to say something. Yeah. And it's okay to be biased. Especially when you've been number one of trying to kill people. Yeah. And listen, I hate CNN.

I hate Fox. I just hate the news. So pardon me sounding like I'm upset because I'm really not. but I just thought like this is really put at the end of all biased media to me. Like this was the period at the end of the sentence. Do we even need to argue anymore of how much of an agenda every last person that gets on that microphone every night does? From either side, Democrat, Republican middle, period. But people got to understand a lot of these media outlets are owned by people.

And people have relationships. They have, you know. Funding. Yeah, funding, money coming from all different places. So, you know, certain things there. going to base that off of, you know, that they're going to present their opinion based on the fact that I have relationships with these people in different places. So, you know, I understand it. Um, again, unfortunate situation, you know, any woman that was, was violated or

disrespected, you know, prayers to her. Absolutely. And, um, it was a couple. And this was overdue. I thought, I think we saw this coming. I think that we kind of knew that Governor Cuomo was going to have to step down. Yeah. It was just way too much, uh, too many allegations. I think it came a lot later than I expected. I didn't expect him to make it to August, honestly. But again, you know, he had to step down. He had to resign. And again, you know, we have a new governor now in New York. Did you watch his speech? No, I didn't. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it. Shit like that to me. Some more sick shit too, though. That's what I'm saying. He just ran down. Just leave. Look what I did in this state. Right. Yes. You start pointing to the good you did and all.

It's like, fam, you know, you're in hot water right now. You disrespect to some women. You know, It's like just fade away. I'm not saying he didn't do good in the state of New York, but it's just funny, like, where you got a picking shoes to finally start talking your shit. Yeah. Like, yo, all right, so I did grab this chick's tits. But if you look at what I did for the LGBTQ community, it's like, these two things don't, that's amazing that you did that.

Yeah. But that does not take away. Yeah, right. It's just too much. It's just too much. Like, you don't need to, I don't think, I don't think giving a speech is the right, that's not the right time to give a speech when you're leaving office because you, violated some women.

Like, I don't, we don't need to hear from you. And I could see through the narcissism and the people that have speech writers or or just narcissist in general. He started naming off his whole staff as like, I just want to thank everyone and named off all the list. And then was like, look what we did. And then just started naming all the shit that he did as governor. Like, look at you trying to ease the people to think you shouting your team out.

You're just trying to tell us what you did as you was governor. And again, I'm not, I'm not saying he's guilty. I'm not saying he's innocent. you know i haven't even looked into enough of this shit never never party with coma no i just never you know what i mean it's just like i i haven't read into this to even though the specifics on what's going on i heard some of the allegations but um again you know it's it's unfortunate and he lasted a lot longer than i thought he would honestly true it was interesting two weeks um how do you feel about people that use voice notes while they text you while they're texting me um i don't mind a voice

If, you know, it's something like I, I'm busy or I'm doing something like if I'm, you know, I can't really type. Yeah, I can't really have my eyes on my phone like that. I'd rather just listen. Let me rephrase my question. Someone that you're texting throughout the day decides while you're texting, they're only going to send voice notes. Is that person the most selfish human being on planet Earth that does not care about your day and does not realize I'm texting you because we can't talk? absolutely i think voice notes should only be used when you see that i took something you text me out of context yes it should be used to clear up it's for tone it's for tone you should you use it to clear up something that i may have taken the wrong way in the text conversation narcissism just reminded me of voice notes people do you do not respect days if you voice note all day you do not respect that other person's day yeah no especially if i'm

doing i'm gonna run in the middle of what i'm doing to go into an area where i could hear your fucking oh you know just gonna go grab some lunch yeah you know text that shit to me please I'm texting you for a reason texting the voice notes are only used when you see that the person took something you text out of context and now you're trying to give them the tone and the proper context I just want to know people that voice though what they're thinking when I'm just replying non-stop on text like I would call you or if you want to tell me something like you're extremely horny I would like to hear that I'm not mad at getting a horny voice note and then I'm really going to go away to go hear that are you want in time you need to

to hear the horny voice notes. And yeah, like, don't, don't overuse your voice notes, too, because if I know you don't use them often and then you send me that one, I'm going to know you're saying I'm horny. Yeah. So I'm going to run and then, like, maybe my workday might be over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to hear what she's saying. At that point?

She's coming in hot. When was the last time a woman asked you why you like this? Why I liked this? No. Why are you like this? Oh, why are you like this? You added. I thought he's about to say, when's the last time a woman asked you why you like this?

Like, while I'm having a sexualist. No, no, no, no. like why do you like this like what do you mean you've been in conversation i love this who you talking about imagine you having sex with a woman and she's like why you like this what are you fucking kidding me like that's what would you say this is just my anatomy yeah like yo i think i'm just i was born to like this what do you mean like i don't know how to answer that um why are you like this what if she called you homophobic for no my god that was such an easy joke that i'm just leave.

What if she was so progressive that she's like, why are you just fucking me? That's crazy. Like, are you homophobic? No, I'm like, no, no. It's, I'm, others like you too. Like, no, I love this pussy. Yeah, like, I love this pussy right now. This is what I love.

Why are you like this? No, you've never had a chick like, I know you have of, you're in conversation and she'll be like, why are you like this? Like, because I'm saying something in conversation. That's funny or like, you know, you'll say some wild shit to her. She might even hit you on the shoulder. Yeah. Oh, she hit you on the shoulder and ask you that.

That means she's hot and ready. But the why you like this, I've, I used to always think, all right, that just means I could beat. Of course. But then I started like really analyzing the why you like this after you've beat. And I think I know what, I think I know why you like this, what that means after you've been fucking. Oh yeah, it's tone. She wants to say I love you. Yeah, absolutely.

You know when a woman is at that point. I think why you like this after you beat is I love you. I just can't say it yet because I'm probably going to creep you out. Exactly. I can't say it yet. It's going to push you away. It's going to weird you out. Maybe too. Is it too? Because, you know, I love you. It's like, it's a game of like, yeah, like chicken. It's like who's going to blink first? Who's going to say it first? Like, because you know when you love a girl. With you condom people. Yeah. Like I've said out, like the craziest is. The rest of us just say it.

I told the girl I loved her during sex and she didn't say it back. And I kind of just like swept her, I love you under the rug. But she reminded me like a few weeks later, like, yeah, like I need you to say that again. But that's, I mean, the I love you is when your mid-fuck are such a gamble. Because I could rub it all. Like, all right, whatever. She don't say it back. But then if you get one that like really starts saying she loves you and like she's

been waiting to say it and you feel it, now you put yourself in a hole. No pun intended. But you know when, have you ever been able to recognize when a woman says she love you and you know she's lying? Of course. Yeah. That's some humbling shit. Like when a woman looks you in your eyes and tells you, I love you and you know she's lying.

I see I'm the opposite at this point in my life I say thank God that she looks what? Yes When she says I love you your response is thank God when I can tell she's lying that's everything I need

Now I just figured out who you are Like what it easy like I thought you meant That's your reply Oh no no no no no no I'm about say That's some sick shit I'm so happy when she says I love you and I can tell she's lying Like all right thank God

All right Like we both be on bullshit I found my exit strategy number one Yeah yeah Number two I just now I know who you are Number three, now I know you don't take love seriously because it's me. Yeah, I know you don't love me.

Like, come on, look at me. I've taken you to Westville once. Yeah, yeah. My jokes and dick ain't hitting like that. Yeah. Yeah, you ain't have to laugh like that. So, at it, right? He's like, yeah, you ain't have to laugh.

Have you been to Westville? He heard about you in the streets. Oh, man. Yeah, but that's great though. When a woman lie to you and like, I love you, you know she lying, that's just like, yes, you're a, you're a, you're a, heathen just like I am.

You lie like me. Yeah. Because I've definitely told a woman I love you and I was like, I know she doesn't believe that. Like the tone was just wrong. You don't say more. Gin said on the microphone. We all know you've told a woman that you love her and she did not,

you did not mean it. Oh man. I'm working on me though, Roar. You know I'm a work in progress. You're one of those people. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. When is the work in it?

Can I get a progress report? Remember progress reports? No, man. I'm so, like, I'm kind of sick of people working on themselves. I know that sounds crazy. It's a never, in the process. Like, I'm kind of sick of therapy. Right.

Like, I'm kind of sick of excuses. Who gives the therapist therapy? Other therapists. So it's just like a cycle. It's like a circle. I think therapists at this point are, see, they're going to kill me because everyone in podcasting now is so fucking, I went to therapy once, mental health forever.

Yeah. I've been going to therapy way before y'all. I'm in my doctorate. I have my master's. Y'all just fucking got to high school. Right. Therapists be like manipulators. Oh, of course.

Therapists teach you how to manipulate. Like they'll make feelings like just straight up regular feelings not valid. Like you just be saying some straight up shit and, oh no, it's deeper than that. No, the fuck it ain't sometimes. Sometimes it's not. Like sometimes people are just dickheads. Sometimes people are assholes. You need to get the fuck away from them.

Like, no, we don't need to find the deeper meaning of why this person did that. And if we do find it, that's great. But this is who they are now. And I want nothing to do with them. I want to go to, I want to, I want to, I want to find a therapist. I want to, I want to find a therapist. I want to start going to therapy. I'm an advocate of it. I know it just sounded like I'm not. Yeah, no, I think it is. It's mental health. Just like you go to the gym and work out. You should go to therapist. It's the same. It all coincides with each other. I do want to start going to therapy. I think it would be great. Just let me be there. I'm going to find one. I'm going to find it. I want to, I want to either a black woman or a black man as a therapist. I understand. I understand my culture where I come from. to kind of have some of the same upbringing and shit like that.

You know, you can't fuck your therapist, though, if you get a black woman. Why not? Like, what if we hit it off? I could see you in therapy shooting your shot. I mean, if she's a, you know, we're attracted and she gets me and she understands me. Yeah, why not?

That might turn me on. Like, what are you doing after this? This is, this is why you should. I don't know if this is why you need therapy or why you shouldn't go to therapy? No, but what if you, what if you're sitting down with your therapist and she's attractive?

and then like she starts talking to you in a way and like really like getting you to understand certain things. He's like, damn. More Cuomo. Some spaces are just not meant for. No, I'm not. No, it's no. You're there to learn about. I didn't say you start getting handy with the therapist.

I know. But you can be like, yo, like, what are you? Am I of your last client for the day? Because then you're going to take what should be your inner thoughts to heal to let me try to be funny with my inner thoughts and try to impress her. Isn't that what we all do anyway? You shouldn't do that in therapy. Oh, okay. That's where people get fucked up in therapy.

They think therapy should be, this person's going to tell me I'm right. Right. Okay. I'm going to go through all my shit and they're going to be like, I knew I was right. How come your ex is a more likable after you break up? Like, I have great relationships with women I've dated after we stop dating. Because finally I can only choose their good qualities and I can ignore their bad qualities. That's a great answer.

Yeah. Because when I'm in a relationship, I have to accept your bad qualities and work on them with you and all that other shit. When we break up, oh no, that's a buffet, baby. Yeah. I'm taking all the good ones. And when you get in your shit, leave the sides. I am out of here.

Got you. Matter of fact, I got a date now. I'm about to go meet a great woman right now. And you take the pressure off, I feel like, with that. When you could just like relax and realize that there's no expectations in what you need for me, I could just kind of really appreciate who you are at that time. So I don't overthink shit. Expectations changes everything.

Hell yeah. you just start to realize maybe we just should have been friends. We would have been greatest friends. See, that's what I say a lot of the times. You can't have sex with your women. That's how you get out of. Come on, man. Follow me.

You need therapy. Who created dating apps? Tech people that were probably too lonely to talk to women in real life and use their amazing technical skills to figure out how to talk to them. I don't even know if that made sense. Because dating apps are essentially just an app where you can kind of like skip the first date almost because you kind of put out the good qualities about yourself out there right away. Which I do on first dates anyways though.

That's what I'm saying. Well, you can probably if you don't meet a woman on a dating app, I'm saying. I'm just, I don't know. I've never done the dating app thing. Never. Just because when dating apps came out, I was in a relationship. So I just never was even on my radar when the shit happened. And I get why people doing

People are busy They don't have time to go out And meet people And all that shit I'm joking about the nerd shit Even though I do think That's how they were started Where it was like

I could just talk to a woman On the computer I think it's just a way To get around all of the The awkward Like first moment Conversations and shit like that I used to think it was creepy

Like all right You don't even know this person But then I thought about Like where I met women At bars And I'm like I don't know this person neither They just happen to be

physically in front of me Are you against dating apps though? No I don't think I would ever do one, but... Yeah, I don't think... Then again, Instagram might be a dating app. I was about to say, I feel like Instagram is almost a dating app. Yeah, at least I get some mutuals, and I can ask people I know in real life.

Like, yo, you ever seen this shit? She really looked like this? Yeah, like on Tinder, can you do mutuals? I don't know. I guess all your friends have to be on Tinder, too. I don't know, honestly. That's a great question. Yeah.

I don't know if you have mutuals on a dating app. I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that. but um yeah no i just i i'm weary of dating apps that's all yeah i'm not i'm not against them i get i've seen marriage's work i know people that use them often i just i don't know i feel like that whole first conversation is just going to be like wow we're on this dating app this is so awkward yeah oh my god we're on this and then i'm a capricorn and it's over that's the end of it okay what gives you more anxiety everything oh charlemagne gives me

me exactly. Okay. Oh, we need to talk text or or where you at text when you're not where you told that you were going to be. Where are you at by far? We need to talk. You feel like she sees you? I'm a veteran and we need to talk. Yeah. Because I'll always respond with, yep, we definitely do. No, you got to. No, no, no, no. You got to respond with L-O-L like we do. No, you're right. Yeah, like you got, you're right. Oh, you beat me to it. Yeah, yeah. Because I can't wait to talk. And then on the way home, I got to think of shit that we got to talk about. I don't have nothing to talk about. I'm glad you brought it up.

I have nothing I want to talk to you about. Because you're not even approachable. Exactly, exactly. I'm a veteran and we need to talk. Where you at? Where you at? And you're not where you told her you were going? She knows where I'm at.

That's scary. That's scary. Because now you start looking around, but the person, like the chick you're with, you don't want how to see, like, your energy is changed. So you got to, like, slick start looking around the room, like, see if you see any the home girls like oh shit like that's scary where you at and you're not where you told you was going i'm running to the bathroom to regroup yeah i might call my dad yeah you might have to get some advice you might have to call her no because at that point i'm probably going to

lie and be like yo the service was jay i was just about to tell you i was at the spot i was just about to tell you touch it's so hard to get out to where you at because she knows where you at she knows exactly where you are exactly where you are that one's really tough Have you ever had a chick send you her location and then expects you to send it back? Because that's a new thing that I didn't know that was a thing. And she'll be like, oh, here's my location. And I'm like, cool, mind you. I don't ask, I've never asked a woman to send me your location because I'm not that psychotic.

But they expect you to then like hit accept. And it says, like, iPhone, for the first time I feel like was on the man's side. It says like 10 times. You know, are you sure you want to share your location with this person? asking you like you're positive you want to do this yeah that's the weirdest conversation like no i'm not giving you my location i've shared a location with a woman before because she was driving back home she lived out of state so it was just kind of sort of like just to make sure she was oh no no no that no that i've done i'm saying the share your location like i just i don't know

where you are now and you'll know where i am not i'm told not the certain time of you on my way home and i don't know it could be a weird i'm in an uber and just here's my location they're expecting you to hit share as well. Yeah. And now this is just my location. Now you got to do what I do sometimes. Just leave your phone in the crib and just Yeah, just leave the phone in the crib. These chicks is fucking great. Yo, chicks are scientists,

for real. Oh, for sure. And we already know this. I'm not saying nothing y'all don't know. They figured out, because women have two phones. We didn't know that. All women have two phones. Remember when it was the guy that had the side phone? That's changed. We all have one phone. They have two phones and they switch. Look, he know. I didn't know.

they switch the location from that phone they go out with to the one that they leave home. So their location is home all the time. You sly little devils. Wait till I just throw an iPad in your trunk. Just wait. Look what you throwing in the trunk for your iPad? Like leave that in there? Throw my little bit by my iPhone.

Where my iPad at? Oh my God, man. No, what I'm not scary though? If you see a, if you, if you were talking to a woman and you don't know she has two phones and like randomly, y'all just in the crib chilling, you see a pull out two phones? It's like, yo, who are you? You know, I found that out when we, or no, you didn't come to that, that Dreamville boss released shit. That's why I found out. Shorty was like, oh, wait, I can't IG story.

And I was like, why? And she was like, oh, I told my best friend that I wasn't out. And I was like, didn't you tell me? before that she had like your location all the time and she was like oh no I have two phones and I just switched my location over and I was like y'all, I should get away from you. Yeah, it's scary.

Women start doing shit like that, we don't have a chance. But then you say it's so casually and you're doing it to your best friends. Right. You know you're going to do it to me. If you're doing that to your best friends, I know you're doing that to me. I'm fucked. So a funny thing happened to me over the weekend Rory, I was walking around

downtown and I walked past a McDonald's. and I saw that they had the the sweetie meal and you know I want to support sweetie as much as I can whenever I can And support women

Yeah I almost broke my My vegan diet Of over a year That's all I took Yeah I was just like Because you see a sweetie meal It's like I have to have this It felt like I would have a piece of her

If I had the Swedish meal It's almost like I have a piece This is something that she's endorsing. She's behind. This is her product. Look at marketing working on you. Yeah. It's like with Suiti or you can market anything. How long have you been a vegetarian vegan?

I've been vegan. June made a year. So that long and you would have just broke off a processed chicken nuggets. Yo, listen, man, for Suiti, it's hard not to. How would you, I mean, we saw that the ICDM'd worked for her previous relationship. What type of McNuggets? response would you have to put in her DMs. I would probably would have sent her like a picture of,

you breaking your vegan. I probably would have to send her a picture of like some type of sauce, dipping sauce or something. Yeah. Oh, you, you saucy? Yeah. And then let her. Trust me.

Yo, DM and her, yo. You don't know. Listen, man, I've seen crazy things work, man. Listen, let's not just knock that. Like, fuck, I see some wild shit happening in these. Ooh, shorthy. I'm McVegan. Yeah, like, come on, man.

Because then now what me and sweetie could do is we could collab and we can make the first vegan McDonald's meal. You know what I'm saying? I don't even see that. Come on, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? You got to really look and see what I'm trying to go with this thing. It's the impossible burger? Yeah, let's do that.

Multiple burger. We're somewhere in there. Me and Suiti, me and sweetie need to collab and do the first all vegan McDonald's extra value. The McMall. The McMall. The McMall. Got to do the McMall. Yeah, why not?

Fuck you, Rory. with the sweet and sour sauce absolutely you got to have that oh now I can see all right now live on air Sweetie Sweetie say are you sweet or are you sour Do you want me to get blocked

Yes I said you want me to get blocked This is when your man's badge you down the road I'm not listening to that Get the fuck out of here man Yo is this summer better than last summer We have a summer Last summer was better This is why I'm asking

Had way more fun at home Yeah, this is what I mean. I think last summer was better than this summer, man. I had way more fun. I was sitting in the crib. I'm like, yo, I think last summer was better than this summer. Yes, because I'm trying too much shit and I'm not liking it. I'm forcing too much stuff.

Yeah, and it's weird. It's just, last summer was weird. Don't get me wrong. Last summer was very weird. But this summer is just like. Because by that time, by that time, summertime last year, we kind of knew what it was. All right. Put a fucking mask on, don't leave your house.

Get tested. Like, we knew the protocol. Right. Now, COVID was running rampant. Let's figure out how to have fun in the house. This summer, it's like, I don't know, should I? But I'm also forcing it. And everyone around me is forcing it.

Right. This is a weird time. Should I even be near this person? Yeah. Yeah. I think last one was better. Last summer it was like shit was closed. It was only takeout.

Just at the third. So you kind of knew. This summer is like, are you vaxed? Are you not vaxed? Are you not waxed? Waxed and waxed. Yeah, it's like, I don't know. What to do?

It was like, okay, am I allowed to go here? Last summer, it was just more like of a clear cut. Like, no. Which waxed and vaxed. I mean, I know that's a thing now, but I'd rather your pussy be hairy and you don't have corona. Like, vax don't necessarily mean, like, we see people that are vaxed are getting corona. So, like, you should still get tested to make sure you don't have corona. Even if you, like, I don't, like, your priority shouldn't be getting waxed.

You should have Harry Pussy and just get your shit. No, you should still get wax. Do a rapid at Walgreens mom. If you have COVID, you still get wax too though. Go to Walgreens, get a rapid and just buy a big razor. You don't need to be vaxed. Yeah, yeah. Just be waxed and vaxed or unvaxed.

But you should definitely be waxed on waxed. I would rather a woman be waxed. I don't care if she's vaxed on vaxed. Be waxed though. Can you get corona by eating pussy? Probably. I'm sure the CDC will find some studies sooner later that will tell us that yes that's the way it's been

this entire time. Yeah it's like oh we've been having way too much oral sex. It had nothing to do with bats in China. No absolutely. Stop blaming the bats. It was just the evil vagina. It's the vages. Not the bats. It's definitely the vaj. Not the bats. We should try to change topics before this goes waste.

It's all good. Listen, this is what we here though. We're here to uncover all of the the shit that people won't uncover. Why do we keep bringing street rules and street etiquette, if you will, into the music business.

And this is only in, I feel like this is only in our culture, only in hip hop culture. I feel like that's a thing. I mean, I don't know much out. I don't know what country culture does. I don't know what a rock. Well, we definitely don't hear Garth Brooks on the records on my,

you've never rode a horse. You've never threw haystacks. You never raised chickens. Like, you're a fraud. You just don't hear it. Let me see your crop game. Yeah, let me see with how many acres you have. Again, I'm probably not the right person to talk about with street stuff, but I don't think, I really don't think people bring street rules into music business as a necessity.

I think it's just the thing to debate about. I think it's the media, social media game more than it is the actual music game. Because I think it was before social media, though. I think we did that a lot. Yeah, but it was handled drastically different. Like, it was separated. from the building and the media than it was what was actually happening.

Of course, they mixed to some degree, but at least in my experience, and again, I was when I was in the music business was like 2010. And that was when cameras, like, were everywhere. But even then they separated things, I felt drastically than what was really going on. Some stuff was for the show and the image,

but I knew what time it was outside. Now I think this is just, some shit for people that are not of that environment to debate about, which I think is the weirdest thing to me. I think that because now, you know, more than ever, you see a lot of these, a lot of artists, and I'm only speaking for our culture, hip-hop culture, a lot of artists now,

they seem to be getting into more trouble and shit like that after the deal. You know what I'm saying? Like artists get record deals now and it's like they end up doing a bunch of prison time. They end up, you know, doing a bunch of dumb shit. And it's like I was taught that once you get the deal, it's like I'm away from that. That could do with attention though. Because I feel like I feel like Pock only got arrested after he got famous and signed his deal.

But again, that's another situation which I've in no space to even talk about or comment on because that's just not the life I come from. but I think a lot of that does have to do with attention though because now we do know that cops do target specifically with rappers and that type of thing. But I think more of the why do we bring the street rules into the music business is more so of a debate now amongst people that aren't from that or should even be commenting on it.

Like it ain't just space to even say shit or bring shit up. I mean... Because you could play in both to some degree. You can't play in the streets and being in music. business. And that's what the problem is at. Like once you're in the music, once you're in the music, once you're in the music, that should be like I'm done with that. Well, the definition of playing in the streets, I guess, would be what you would have to put a sentence to. But you can still be around your people. No, you can still hang out and go back to your neighborhood and shit. I'm talking about being active in the streets.

If it's beef, you running down on dudes and busing your hammer. Like, Finn, you, Sony invested $5 million into you. You know everyone at TMZ by first name. Yeah. Like, what do you? It's just, it has to be a distinct clear cut. Now, don't get me wrong. Certain rules that apply in the streets, absolutely you should apply to business.

But as far as you're talking about code and ethics and just having morals and integrity, absolutely apply those things into business. But I'm talking about like a lot of the, you know, you see now it's like a lot of, a lot of the street shit has seeped into the music so much that, you know, rappers or artists feel like that when they're in the music business and they're talking about certain things, they have to still be living that shit and have

to still be actively doing these things. And I was always taught that hip hop was the art of storytelling. It doesn't necessarily have to be your story. Yeah. Just the way that you paint the picture and you can deliver it to the people and speak for the people and put it out to the world and to let people know what goes on in our communities and to let people know how much we need to, you know, fixing our communities, things like that.

also bring entertainment from our community, like things that we go through and just putting it on a platform called hip hop, having fun, creative freedom and expression. But you don't have to still be actively doing that shit. Like that's the problem I'm having with it now. It seems like, and again, this is shit that could have been going on in the 80s and 90s as well. But it just wasn't so at the forefront because we didn't have so many cameras and social media to receive the information that we do now. I'll put it this way. You're either you're either a kid or you're stupid if you think that rappers should be living out their lyrics to that type of degree. But the rappers feel like that. But there are people within

within the media that take advantage of knowing that the rappers cannot do that and antagonize rappers that do come from that and one time did and know certain triggers to get them out of that mind and then when they react then say why you not live it like i thought you were supposed to be gangstice like no i'm in the music business now right and that's you're almost taking advantage of somebody that comes from a very traumatic environment that's trying to better themselves that's where the shit like really bothers me yeah because because you know where i come from and what i come from and you know that i can't do that anymore you know that but i'm a rap about it because it's what i come from. It's even if it's not my stories, it's my people's stories, whatever. So when you sit there

and antagonize these street people that are now business people and in the music business, it's, like, to me it's so corny because you know they can't do that. And you're antagonizing them because you know they can't. Right. You know for a fact, that person is too famous and too rich to be able to go do something to you. And has too much to risk now. Yeah, I have children, have a family. Yeah. I mean, like, it's just not, we're not in the same space we were in when we were kids. But then you're also, and you're doing that to somebody that is, their mind is still developing outside of the environment.

They were once into this new venture. And certain things is going to piss them off. And that old side is going to come out. Even if they know they can't do shit, they're going to react at least verbally the same way. And to me, that's taking advantage of trauma. Yeah, I think at some point, you know, I don't, again, I feel like this is something that needs to be done in our coach. I feel like we need yearly sit downs together as a culture, representatives of the culture. We need some type of weekend or something where, you know, we just, the top figures in our culture come together, sit down and we talk about what's going on.

And we talk about what's going on in the music business and, you know, just in business general and what we're doing. And, you know, it's kind of like a therapy session for our culture. Because a lot of us are still dealing with trauma. Like you got a lot of cats that come from the places that I come from or you come from. And, you know, they were living a certain life. And then it's like, okay, now they were thrown into a position where a company wants to invest millions of dollars into this person. But it's like this person hasn't had time to really heal from the trauma that they grew up in and things that they were doing and things that they've seen and their friends losing their friends and family to violent crimes. And now you want me to get on stage and perform in front of 10,000 people.

Or it's kind of like. Even more now I have to deal with all of those people having an opinion about you. Yeah. You know how to react to it. Yeah. I don't know how to do that. Like, if somebody would have said one thing to me, I would have lost my mind. Now it's 10,000 people every time I refresh my fucking mentions.

And that was a lot of things that I thought about when it came to the baby. You know, this was clearly somebody. We saw it. He went through a traumatic, you know, experience. We spoke about it before. And then now you're on stage in front of so many thousands of people and millions of people watching and you say something. And, you know, you don't realize what you're saying is hurtful. It's wrong.

But then now you have to be judged and quote unquote canceled as a result of that. When in reality, it's here's somebody that came from, you know, a certain upbringing, experienced a lot of trauma. a lot of things in their life and they don't have the tools and are not socially equipped with certain information. 100%. But now you're throwing this person in front of the world and saying, hey, be a superstar. Here's a microphone. Yeah.

And it's like, but now- He's going to say some shit. He's going to say something that's not right. Yeah. And that's not, you know, socially acceptable. Yeah. So instead of saying, oh, we're going to cancel you, you should just look at that and say, oh, here's a young man that just doesn't have the tools and is not equipped socially

with certain information. But obviously he's talented. Obviously, you know, he's someone who's, you know, a blessing and a gift to his family because he's able to take care of his family and he's able to provide. So we don't want to just strip him of that because then what?

You strip him of that. What does he go back to? And I believe the LBGTQ community, I don't know, the exact organization, I think reached out and said that they would sit with the baby and just inform him. Which I thought they ended that. Beautiful.

Absolutely. And they said, hey, what you said was very hurtful to us. Yeah. Let us teach you exactly what is going on within those stereotypes of HIV and why that's a very problematic thing towards our community, which I thought was the most beautiful way to handle that. And I think there's a better way to even a tie in what you're saying with the street coach shit into the music business should be moved in the same way to some degree of, hey, we probably need to. teach certain people that come from environments how to move once they get into middle America society. And I'm not saying to adapt, shit, what's the J-line in Blueprint? Beans, I'm not trying to change you, just trying to get you some game, trying to show you

how to go from the streets of fame. Like, no one's trying to change. No one says you have to move this way off because this is what Middle America wants, so you shouldn't have your opinions of that view. But it's just certain things you probably wasn't given that you would need to know, which I think we all have, especially in our 20s. Absolutely. If you put a microphone, if we started this podcast when I was 18, we wouldn't be here at 31. I promise you.

Yeah, exactly. It's, you know, it's unfortunate. I would have said some dumb shit. I would have said some really ignorant shit. I would have said some views that probably weren't the most progressive. But again, you know, I just think that we're too, we have a lot to fix in our culture. You know, we have a lot to fix. And it disappoints me when I see the elder statesmen and the older generation.

in our culture not being a good example or not setting the right tone in our culture. Like that bothers me because it's like you've seen more than I've seen. You've been through more and you've lived through different errors. And so you know how to move. You know, well, you should know how to move. You should know how to conduct yourself. And it's unfortunate when we have, you know, elder statesmen just not moving the right way and not doing the right things. Because what, what example is it setting for the younger generation? Because, you know, a lot of times people like, oh, these young kids, these young dudes be wowing it.

No, older dudes be whiling too. Older dudes be doing dumb shit too. All the dudes be saying dumb shit too. So it's kind of like, you know, we just have to get, I think that we don't spend enough time on one page and we don't spend enough time communicating with each other. And maybe some of those doors are not open because of, again, our upbringing and, you know, the environment we come from, we're not quick to live. let people in to our space and give access to ourselves to people that we don't know like that.

But I think in hip hop culture, it's all one culture. We all represent one culture. I think that we need to do a lot more time communicating and having honest conversations with each other and stop being so quick to, you know, bump heads and go to war and all of this. It's like we've learned. We've lost too many people. We've lost too many prominent figures. We've lost too many opportunities to push our culture forward. And I think that we know we need to do something now. more than ever. We have the tools. We have the information. We have the technology. We have the capital. We have so many things now that, you know, it would be, it will be almost dumb of us to continue to do things and put energy out there that's going to keep bringing our culture

backwards instead of moving us forward. Yeah. And the fact you just said the technology part, nobody got to even meet for a weekend. Get on a Zoom. That's it. We don't even have to be in the same room, but we do need to have the same conversation with each other. I think that more importantly needs to happen. You know, somebody needs to set, something up to where we just all sit down and, you know, we communicate with each other and we talk to each other. We talk about what's going on. We ask for help in certain areas. You know what I mean? That's another thing. A lot of us have information and can help each other and we don't. You know what I mean? It's almost like you don't want to help somebody, you know, put somebody in a position because you feel like

it will put them in a better position than yourself. I never understood that. Like I'm all about if I can help you and I think you're a good person and you're going to do right and you're going to, you know, do the right thing with the opportunity, even if there's nothing in it for me. Most of the times it's nothing in it for me. That doesn't mean that I don't recognize that, yo, this is going to be great for you. Yeah. Like you go here, you do that. And it's like in our culture, we so, you know, we want to hold, hide our hand and not help each other and not push each other forward.

And it's like, it's just, it's just unfortunate, man. It's a lot of things I sit back and I look at and I know I don't speak on a lot of things because, you know, sometimes even now, that's another thing. we scared to speak on things because we might be canceled or people might not fuck with us or people might be mad at us and it's like no if you feel a type of way and you feel like something is wrong and you feel like we need to fix something and we need to change some things speak on it bring that shit to the forefront change some shit like don't be afraid to make positive change like it's nothing wrong that's some cool shit making positive change is cool advancing the culture is cool helping each other out is cool that's cool shit like I love to see if I put somebody on to something or put them in a

position where, you know, and they do good with that position and they take it a step further. That makes me feel good. I'm like, yo, that's dope. You know what I mean? Like, you took your opportunity and you made good on it. You ran with it. Like, you made the best of it. Like, that, to me, that's uplifting.

That's like, it's not about a money thing. Yeah. I just feel like outside of you saying with when people ask questions, it goes to the cancel shit or there's the other side of that coin, which turns into the ego bravado back and forth shit. It's like, no, I'm asking a question. I disagree with what you're saying. doesn't have to be this now back and forth.

I respond, you respond. It becomes an ego thing. That's what needs to be stripped from this entire thing. Because I could even see with what you're saying that's so brilliant of somebody really putting together an entire call or weekend or whatever, a retreat, whatever the fuck you want to call it. It's going to go into ego. Like, who the fuck said he's supposed to be the one that I don't think he's the big homie? Yeah, but I'm going to move because of that. Like, you got to strip the ego from everything.

Got to strip ego. Got to strip ego. That's where I think it starts. It's an ego strip. Yeah, but a lot of our culture is built on ego too at the same. It's okay to look vulnerable on camera. It's okay to certain things. It's okay to ask questions.

It's okay to say, yo, I don't know. It's okay to do things that we have just deemed, I guess, taboo to some degree. That's where I think it starts, stripping all of that. Yeah. Once you remove the ego, it's so much room for a healthy conversation. Yeah, I agree. And that that was a good, good tangent. we went on.

Yeah. Needed to be said. Especially with everything that's going on right now. Right. On to some more cool shit sports. Yeah, lots of been happening. My Knicks looking a right. Welcome Kimba.

Nick's looking all right. Welcome Kimber. Welcome back to New York. Welcome back. I mean, not Nick's, welcome home. Yeah, welcome home to New York. Kimber. I was very happy to hear that the Knicks signed Kimber, Rice High School alumni.

And put a whole billboard for him up. on 34th Street. Yeah. They put Welcome Home Mello. And shout out to Mello. I love Mello. Mello lived in Brooklyn for like five days. Yeah.

That welcome home campaign was the craziest shit. He's from Baltimore. Like they had the whole, I ain't gonna lie to like the whole. I'm coming home. I'm coming home. I'm like, I've been in New York with Baltimore.

I don't know if Mello ever lived in New York. But you know, we love Mello. She spent a lot of time here in New York. I love Mello. But yeah, Kim, I'm happy for him. Me too, man.

You know, it's good to see one of New York, like real, real, real New York own back in the garden. And the Knicks look like they're making some really good moves, man. Yeah, no, it's awesome. Shout out to Julius. He signed a major, major deal. Well, fucking deserved.

Yeah, he deserved it. Shout out to Jews. Who else? I've been seeing his jerseys everywhere in the city, too. Julius? It'd be like little shit that makes me happy about New York City basketball. Well, he deserves it, man. Julius had a great year.

I know he personally wasn't. with his postseason performance and his playoff performance. But, you know, he's a hard worker. He's a hard worker. I think that him and Kimba are going to be amazing for the city. Yeah. I think they're going to do some amazing things this year. They got a nice team around them.

I like the Evan Fournier pick up. Love keeping D. Rose. Oh, yeah, D. Rose. I forgot that the Knicks gave him another desk. That's amazing. I thought that that was great when they signed him last year. But to see that they really locked him in for a few more years is great. The Lakers made a lot of moves.

a lot of moves for the Lakers. That's my team. I'm a Laker fan. Shout out to Russell Westbrook signing a deal with the Lakers. Shout out to my boy Trev. Travis back in L.A. They got a nice thing going over there, man. The Lakers, they're trying to go after it.

And they definitely have the pieces now. I think a few, a couple more pieces, a couple shooters they need to probably go get. But other than that, they're right there in the top of the championship conversation. I mean, how many more pieces do you need? I get what you're saying. Yeah, but when you're talking about championship... Oh, no, of course.

It's drastically different. You don't take superstars. Yeah, you got to have certain pieces of guy that can come in, straight shooter. I just hate hearing when people get these fucking AAU super teams where it's like, well, they're missing a piece. I'm like, what piece they miss? Yeah, I'm listening. I'm on you. I'm on that too.

I hate the stack team, super team thing. It's the era. But it's just, it's what we're going to do, man. That's just what it is now. I don't want to stop watching basketball. but it's just it is what it is. It'll be the first year I'm rooting for the Lakers just because of Mello. Yeah, Mello.

I forgot Mello. Jesus Christ. How could I forget Mello's a Laker now? Russ is still one of my favorite players in the league. I want to see him get a ring. Trev is family. I would love to see him get another ring. Yeah, man.

Shout out to the Lakers. And shout out to Dennis Schroeder, man. Well, prayers, first of all, to Dennis Schroeder, man. Let me just say, I don't know what he was thinking when he turned down, $84 million from the Lakers. I mean, making $20 million a year to live in California, Los Angeles, is like a dream come true.

I don't know why he would turn that down. So he turned down $84 million to live in sunny California to then only except 14 days later, $5.9 million to be in cold Boston. Now, listen, I understand betting on yourself. I understand, you know, knowing, your worth. I understand all of that. I don't think anybody understands that more than you and I at this point, but what I will tell you is, I am not turning out $84 million to live in California.

I don't give a fuck what anybody in my homeboy say, nah, you were. He could have kept the accounting. Yeah. Like, you keep all the fucking accounting. You, you put. Wait, 84 to go to LA. 804 to live in Los Angeles, California. Do you know what 84 million dollars can do in California? Are you kidding me? And now you're taking 5.9 million to be in freezing cold Boston. I mean,

Dennis Schroeder, I think you're a solid pro. I think you're a great player. It's a lot of Irish culture. Yeah, like it's, but it's, you can't,

you cannot turn down $84 million. We've had some fun in Boston. I've had, and we've had some fun in L.A. I don't even know what I'm talking about. I like, I love Boston.

Don't get a twisted. I love Boston too. I like Boston too. I like Boston. I like Boston. Boston is a great city. But if we're saying Boston in L.A., get Boston the fuck away from me. It doesn't even compare.

It's not even close. You turn that $84 million to take $5 million to go to Boston. I hope he's right. It's a one-year due? It's a one-year deal. I hope he's right. I hope he's right. Listen, man, Dennis Schroeder, I don't know if you'll ever hear this.

I hope you do. But I'm rooting for you only because it has to be a silver lining in this story. I don't want to believe that your career will come down to you turning down $84 million in LA and only accepting $5 million in Boston. I hope this is not the end. I hope that you're betting on yourself and you know your game and your ability more than anybody else does. No analyst, no fucking coach.

You know your ability. You know your potential. I'm rooting for you. But God damn, turn it down $84 million in California. I've never seen that $84 million. $84 million. See, you know what they need to start doing in negotiations. They really need to start putting Magic Johnson's contract on the board.

I think every agent, shout out to my guy, Rich Paul, but I think every agent needs to sit their players down and show them what Magic Johnson took. He took $25 million for 25 years. And now he owns. He made a million dollars a year. Now he owns Los Angeles. None of you niggas is better than Magic Johnson. He could maybe own Boston after this.

Yeah. But then again, Boston. But if Magic is willing to take a deal like that and a large part of that deal was because, well, at that time it was the largest deal in, I think, sports history. But more importantly, Magic is. wanted to stay in L.A. Yeah. That was the thing.

It was like, I'm staying here. I'm not leaving here. Dennis Schroeder should have taken the same approach. I'm staying here. I'm not leaving here. I'm with LeBron.

I'm with AD. Where are you going to go? You have two of the best players of their time, of their position, arguably ever. I could also see that too. You have a ring.

You want the ring in the bubble with these guys. Where are you going? But I could see. What can you see, Rory? 84 million? I can see it.

I'm just trying to somehow look at the other side. Now you with everybody. Let me go Sean and be my own man over here. I don't know. Listen, man. Listen, I understand. You with the stack team, like, let me go take this $5 million and then figure it out from there.

Yeah, but now you got to. This is somebody that 84 million. I'm not saying I was saying notice. I would have signed that contract so fast. I might have signed a hole through the contract. They might have to bring a new contract in the room. 84 million dollars living in Los Angeles. Come on, man.

What do we talk? And I'm with LeBron. It's like life is great right now. So now, again, prayers of Dendez Schroeder, I'm praying for you, I'm rooting for you. I want you to have an amazing year.

I want you to get a max contract next year. But God damn, turning down $84 million to live in L.A. is fucking insane. I hope we're wrong. I hope we're wrong to. It could be the right choice. Yeah.

But maybe it's because of distractions until he goes to Boston and finds out what K. Verdean women are? Listen, I mean, he might be distracted. Yeah. Listen, he might be. Like I said,

I'm hoping something good comes out of this. We'll see. If I'm going to, all right, see, if I'm going to choose between highlight room and KVirdian women. Oh, Kvartian women. But again, that 84 whispering in your ear. But five will stretch with some Kverdian women. Because you know what's going to happen now?

In Boston? I go to Dorchester with 5 mil. I'm going crazy. 84 doesn't even do shit in L.A. You are sick, man. But you know what I would do? That 5 stretch crazy in Boston. You know what I would do now as a player?

year all I'm doing if I'm guarding Schroeder is I'm just walking up to whispering 84 that's funny 84 I'm just screaming 84 you got 84 for me to foul you right now you turned out 84 Jesus Christ but yeah

President of Schroeder I'm room for him Luca Donchich I knew Dallas was going to max him out I mean yeah that went without saying that was a no brain shout out to him Kawhi Linnet just got a super contract from the Clippers.

I saw that coming to. He wanted to be home. He's not going nowhere. Let's see what I'm saying. Guys just get it. He's from L.A. He's from Cali. I get it.

But, you know, it's just still like I'm not going nowhere. Shout out to Kowai Leonard. Yeah, man. And shout out to everybody or all the other free agents that are signing big deals and that are staying in their current cities or even if they're on the move. Shout out to all the rookies. I'm seeing a lot of good games in the Summer League. A lot of rookies look good.

Shout out to Jalen Green. I like him a lot. I'm with you. I think new music coming out today. I know Fat Joe and DJ Drama have something coming out. It's like it produced by Kool And Dre. The album cover looks like the menu at Last Lap. I want to know who designed it because I think it's the same thing.

But I'm excited. Fat Joe, summertime, one of the best beat pickers ever with Kool and Dre with drama. I don't doubt this shit will be great. Yeah. So I'm excited for that. rest of peace, Chuckie Thompson. Rest of peace,

Chuckie Thompson, man. Wow. Musical legend. Legend. Legend. Yeah. Yeah. Remember the hitman.

Mm-hmm. Just go through all the bad boys' catalog if you want to know who Chuckie Thompson is. Yeah. So prayers to his family prayers to my brother, guru. Mm-hmm. I know how close you were with him. So my prayers are with all of you.

Mm-hmm. Chuckie, there's nothing more to be said, but that's a fucking legend. Super legend. man, super legend. And I was glad to see a lot of people on social media, you know, giving him praises and giving him flowers, you know, hopefully they were giving him these flowers while he was here. But it was just good because I know a lot of people, they didn't know who Chuckie Thompson was, but they found out through social media when the news of his passing started to circulate. But yeah, super icon, man, super icon. Super icon. Mary J. Blodge.

I mean, even, I'm glad they were posting a lot of those clips from, I forgot what documentary that was, where Mary was giving Chuckie his flowers in front of him over. Yeah. Yeah, my life, you helped me tap into my life. Right. Right. Like outside of you just being a beatmaker, you're a producer. Like, you really pulled out the greatest Mary album ever. Yeah, I can't say enough about Chuckie Thompson.

Icon. Yeah, again, prejudice family. Love to Guru. Yeah, shout out to Dame Lillet, too. He said, no fucking way. I'm going to L.A. Yeah, I don't think Dames leave in Portland. No, he said somebody tweeted,

I bet whatever money that before the off-season's over, literally would be in L.A. And he retweeted it and said, bet a million. Bet a million. I like it. But then again, if he gets a crazy contract, maybe you could afford betting a million. That's true. I never thought about it like that.

Dame's fourth album, different on levels the Lord allowed. I saw the video. Yeah. You, listen, man, I still can't believe Dame raps as well as he does. Like every time I hear a new record or I hear, it's like, he can really rap. I think he's the best rapper athlete ever.

Oh, for sure. It's not even, I don't think it's close. It's not a debate anymore. Like, he can, he can, he almost rap. And I know, you know, Dame, you know, it's all love. But it's, he rap so good. It's almost like if I found out he had a ghost writer, I wouldn't even be surprised. Like, that's how he did he rap.

And I know he doesn't. Yeah. I know he doesn't. But if it was to ever come out that someone is writing these lyrics, it wouldn't. that's how good these lyrics are to me. It's like, yo, it's no way you're this good at basketball and this good at rapping. That's insane to me. If the world was, this is going to be a weird analogy.

If the world was high school, Dame reminds me of like that annoying dude at your high school. Like you good at everything. Yeah. Like, come on. You're doing. Yeah. Like, not only are you fucking captain of the basketball team. You fucking just annihilated the talent show.

Like, get the fuck out of here, man. Like, who are you? And you're the quarterback? Right. Exactly. Exactly. You were that annoying guy at high school. was just good at everything.

Shout out the Dame, Lillet, man. His album dropping. I'm excited for the album because I like the video they dropped. Yeah, shout out the Dame. Shout out the Team USA.

And I still think Shaq kind of, you know, you're a nice rapper with Shaq got to, I got to keep it honest. I feel you. Shout out to Team USA. Men and Women's Basketball

won the goal. Yeah, shout out to K. They was killing KD for a minute when they lost the first two exhibition games. They were saying, then KD said, hold my beer. Yeah, yeah.

He had to let it be known like, Finn. Listen, man, We were coming off of our season. People were still kind of tired. Drast. Yeah, it's like our season just ended two weeks ago. So shout out to Team USA men and women's team.

Shout out to Sue Bird and Diana Tarasi. I think it's their fifth gold medal. That's fucking crazy. Yeah. They was calling KD Captain America. I like that nickname. That was fire. I'm with that.

Yeah, I like that. I'm with that. You know, Katie was bowling up. And shout out to KD too. He signed a max with Brooklyn. He'll be in Brooklyn for at least the next four years. Brooklyn Lakers. And I'm thinking that they'll lock up James and Kyrie as well

Pretty soon I see Kyrie staying I don't know about James It's going to be interesting man New York New York basketball is going to be interesting For a few years to come at least At least the next four years for sure I've told you I've finally given in my next card

I'm still a diehard Knicks fan But I can root for Brooklyn now Yeah I think it's safe I've been treated so poorly I'm rooting for the Knicks too man I want to see Jules and Kimber play really well and make some noise in the playoffs and get out of the first round this year, which I think they have the pieces now.

So yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be a fun year next year next year for New York basketball, for sure. Yeah. Well, shit, I think everything else I have we can save for next episode. Yeah, I do want to get into next week. Have you ever kept up with a value tamedment? Am I saying that right? podcast network my guy Patrick it's one of my favorite podcast ever

Valuetam it yeah Valuetam it which which is a phenomenal phenomenal podcast I don't know Patrick's last name Patrick bet David one of my favorite interviewers is trying to get Trump and Obama to come on his podcast to have a conversation and I don't think that would ever happen but okay he's putting up I think I think $5 million, and I assume that they would put that to a charity of their choice. I doubt, well, I don't know about Trump, but I doubt that they would take that money and pocket it. But we can save it for next week. Okay.

I just think it's interesting. And I think Patrick is one of the better interviewers, period. I'm not even just talking about podcasts. His podcast is phenomenal, and he's just an amazing interviewer. Okay. I would like to see it. Listen, he got Sammy the Bull. I think that's harder than getting Trump in Obama.

Yeah, I would like to see Trump and Obama sit down and talk. I think now that, you know, both for them out of office, even though I do think Trump is planning to run for the next presidency. But I would love to see them shit. Why not? Like, why do we have to create these things where, you know, they're not going to talk? Well, his biggest point of it more so, and again, we'll get back into this next episode. He was more so saying that the debates are set up for politicians just to

say bullshit. Podcasts give you the long form time where you really got to, you got to talk. Yeah, you got to say some shit. Like you can't have your rehearsed. You know a question's coming. So tell us what you think about pro choice. Right. And you have your shit ready to go.

No, we're doing the first hour of my questions, second hour of audience questions. And then the third hour of you can ask each other questions. I like it. I think that's how, even if this doesn't happen. Yeah. I prefer him to run debates because he's a super intelligent dude. Yeah. I'd rather him run debates on that style once we get down to the two.

Of course we can't do that with everything. But yeah, how they do debates and how is pointless. It's fucking pointless. Yeah. We'll see what that's at. We'll see. We'll be back soon. Everyone have a safe weekend.

Safe weekend. Have fun. Be safe. Stream your favorite artist. Listen to some music. If you're in the Northeast, hide because it's hot as fuck. Yeah, it's hot. It's going to be hot this weekend. I think we should take a trip soon. Like a pod.

We should do a pod like on a crazy-ass location soon. I'm with a pod trip. Yeah, do a pod trip just to kind of change the energy a little bit. Yeah, I'm definitely with that. Do that shit on a cruise. Some shit like that.

Just some different. That would be super funny. Some shit like that. Parted with Carnival cruises and just people watch on Mike. Just watch people go to the buffet all day. Look at this when he's back. Fair. It's fourth meal.

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