New Rory & MAL - Season 1 | Episode 9 | "Cherry Seltzer"

Episode Date: August 20, 2021

Rory & MAL sit down to discuss the Hood Olympics, bringing drugs back to sports, haunting your girl after death, OnlyFans cancelling porn + more! Visuals + bonus content will be available tomorrow! Like, comment, subscribe! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That is true. I'm sick of, you know, let me see if I still got it. Who said you had it? You never had, you probably never even had it. You never had a jumper. No, I wanted to see if I still had it. It was close, though. I mean, Ray Rice confirmed that you never had it.

Ray Rice is a strong motherfucker. Let me just say that again for the record. I can't believe I. He was involved in that matchup. Fam, that was crazy. That's hysterical. We'll say that for another day. But I didn't want to bring something to your attention.

I feel like we need to use this platform responsibly. And, like, bring awareness to actual real issues. Oh, it's dangerous. It's lethal. It is. It's a bit like the beef, notorious BIG used to rap about when you said, beef is when your mom's ain't safe up in the streets. Never thought about that.

Beef is when I see you. When I'm looking at you. Guaranteed to be in ICU. ICU intensive care. When it does. You can't end up in ICU. Maybe not the same rate as Biggie's beef, but that's the point about risk. You don't want to test these streets at all.

Risk ending up in the ICU. Of course not. That's true. That's true. I never thought about it like that. No, I never really added. That was well said. Ari has a way of breaking down, like, the news and making it relate, relatable. No, I really never looked at COVID that seriously until I thought about, like, the beefs that Big had been through. It makes sense now?

Maybe not at the same rapid pace, even though I really feel like more people have died from COVID. But, I mean, I see what Ari was trying to take us to. Yeah, he was just trying to, you know, make it relatable and give it to us in a way where we would respect it and fear it as we should. But that's what Arii does, though. He does that a lot. That was like in a, what's that movie where is Jennifer Garner, whoever goes to the hood? Freedom Writers. It's like when the freedom writers, when she can't get through to them, then she quotes Tupac.

And they're like, oh, my God, I never even thought about poetry. Exactly. Now I get it. Now I understand. I mean, listen, man, I like Oreo. Imagine a bunch of gang members in a school that don't want to hear Shakespeare, but then you play, keep your head up. And you're like, yo, I get it. I never even, yeah.

They try to make it, but I like teachers that do that, though. It's a little cheesy and a little corny at times, but I do respect that they try to make it relatable and in a way where we can understand and get it because, you know, how else are we going to learn? We can remember every album, but we can't remember. Yeah, because the album slap. That's true.

When Jennifer Garner wraps it to me, it doesn't slap. Yeah, she was a little, it was a little cheat. It's a lot of money. movies, though. It was a period in time where movies were very cheesy. Like the early 2000s. Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of cheesy, corny movies. It depends which genre. But I feel like I go back to all my favorite movies when I was a kid and they're pretty cheesy. Robocop is the worst movie ever. I'm going to just put that out there

again. I know I said it before. I mean, I'm sure. I used to love Robocop as a kid. It was so bad looking back at Independence Day and like how blown away I was by those, those graphics. Yeah. And then to find out that, like, the Navy pilot that saves the world's wife was just a stripper hanging with the first lady. It was just a lot happened in that. And all they had to do was give the aliens an animal. Just put it up, put the spaceship up. Just had to type some shit.

Put it up their asses. Had to give them a porn hub virus. Yeah, like, what the fuck is that, man? A lot of cheesy movies. Yeah, and I feel like all, like, the Hood classics were. I think EZE kind of had a point with saying that Boys in the Hood was after school. special. No, I don't know.

Like if you kind of go back and watch it. No, Boys and Hood was good. It was great. Yeah, it's a really weird movie. But like, come on, man. I get it. Especially if you grew up in L.A. around that time, it could kind of seem a little, you know, cheesy, but it was like.

Us East Coasters, we loved Boys and Hood when it came out. No, it's great. But it's kind of like that Kat Williams joke when people try to buy those Chrysler's that looked like a Bentley and then a Bentley pulled up and it was like, oh, you're not in a Bentley. That was like when you watched Boys in the Hood and then Menace Society came out. And it was like, I had ice cube. Yeah.

I get it. How was your weekend, man? Oh, it was pretty chill. Pretty cool. I didn't do too much. I hung out, you know, a little bit. Went to dinner and shit. I'm going away this weekend though.

I've got to go out of town and see the family and stuff. It's always to see the family, right? Well, this weekend. When was your last wild weekend? When did things get out of hand? When was it not just like a calm dinner with at least friends and family? And you made up all the right choices and a wild. weekend has been a while.

Every woman was respected. Yeah. It's been almost about two years. Well, because we lost a year, so we can't even count. Yeah, I don't count that one. Yeah, we can't count it. Though you could get wild. You could have. You could have.

But it was like you would have to be like trying to really like set up the wild. I asked, I asked people this week if they went on Zoom dates that during COVID and they paused and said yes. And then I realized, oh, you went on real dates. You linked. Yeah, absolutely. You all linked. Yeah, people were linking. People were linking.

during COVID. I wasn't one of them, but people were definitely linking out, people were traveling. But, you know, yeah, not having had a wild weekend. I think I'm due for a wild weekend, though. What's a wild weekend at this point, though? I guess unprotected

sex with a stranger, pregnancy scares. Yeah, we're not going to go that wild. What's like right underneath that? Sex with a stranger with a condom, pregnancy scares. Even with a condom? You're still scared.

scared. Ooh, this little piece of rubber. Gonna stop life. Fuck, I'm on earth. How much life is around me? I think this rubber is going to stop it. Oh, man. Yeah, no, I don't want to, I don't want a pregnancy scared of.

Would you remember what the Wild Weekend was? Two, two and three years ago? Um, there's a lot of weed, uh, shrooms. I didn't do any, though. Uh, a lot of naked night pool. Um, yeah. I want you to hang out with like me and my white friends. I'm dying to hang with you and your white friends

But like you can't You can't like be more Who do I have to be? You could be like Mike How about Mike? Okay We'll call you Mike Okay

And you have to act like the rest of us And you can't stop us from doing things That you may deem inappropriate Okay I'm down for that It'll happen I'm definitely down for that I love partying with white people though

I went to the Yankee game With my white friends Well my white cousins Uh huh Like two or three days ago I went to the Yankees Red Sox game and PC culture is now in arenas and stadiums.

So I don't know if you're familiar with the, anytime someone of a fan of the opposite team comes in, they do the asshole chant. Absolutely. Okay. That's Yankee culture. Yes. So that was happening, obviously.

And security came like multiple security guards and stopped them and said it was too vulgar and you can no longer do the asshole chant at Yankee Stadium. No way. Swear to God. Swear to God. What's next? They're going to stop me from doing a wave? the ocean wouldn't appreciate that it's a little offensive to some of the uh less stronger

currents in the world the fuck is going on man like this shit is but that's what i'm saying shit is it's just it's just too out of control man everything is offensive everything is you know insult it's like fam come on man who's insulted at being called an asshole and then like what actually in a visiting stadium is offended by that mind you the redsock fan was standing up in taking it all and loved it. Of course. He knows what it is. Then one of the female, I don't know if that's correct, one of the female security guards.

You don't know if it's correct to call her female security. One of what I deemed is gender. Yeah, because you don't know what she's identified. And I don't know if security guard is securing the perimeter of the stadium for everyone's safety. Suggested we shouldn't do that because there was also children present. And I was like, well, how else are the, you're setting this kid up for failure in life. Like if the asshole chant at Yankee Stadium is too much. for him to hear. He's in trouble.

Absolutely. Like if you, if you, he's going to have a rough time out there. You can't grow up as a Yankee fan in the Bronx and be at a Yankee versus Boston Red Sox of all teams. Night game. And not called Boston Red Sox assholes. Listen. Like, come on, fam. You can't take that from us. Like you can take in the leecher seat. Take the popcorn. Take the cracker jack. Leave the assholes. Yeah. Now come on, man. Enough is enough. I'm see that. But this is what they're taking, they're taking everything from us at this point. Well, they're selling a bud light cherry selsers. Oh my God. So you know, you kind of see where the culture is going. Asshole, but I could order a bud light seltzer. Yes. Cherry seltzer. Matter of fact,

if you're holding a bud light cherry selser at Yankee Stadium, maybe not asshole, maybe, Hey, I think your team's probably just not as good as ours should be the chance. I don't think you guys are as talented as we are. Your talent is subpar compared to our franchise. The fuck out of here, man. This is, this is just too much, man. That's why I don't like going out anymore because you don't know what's offensive. You don't know what to do. It's like you have to learn the world all over again. Yeah. More or less. I mean, that's what Cuomo tried to say. Didn't really work, though. You had no idea you couldn't grab her titty. Like when I was growing up, when I was growing up, it was just a way to say hello. Haven't you watched Mad Men? Like, what the fuck? Weird of. Anyways,

but yeah, that was actually really weird to me. The Yankees won? The Yankees did win. The Yankees been on a row. Seven, seven innings. It was a double header. Um, So the second game was only seven innings. Is that like a new thing they're doing? I didn't want to sound like the ignorant one at the game, but seventh inning came and I was ready to stretch and everyone was ready to go. That goes over? Seven innings. Yeah.

Oh, well. I mean, I like that. I know they change a few of the rules in baseball. You now get a runner on like second base. If you go to extra innings or some shit like that, try to speed up the game. I don't know. You can't say asshole no one, but you can put a run on second to start the inning. In the 10th inning, you can put a run on second.

Like, whatever. They took steroids away and look where we are. Exactly. Bring steroids back to baseball. Make baseball great again. I completely agree. Yeah. Make baseball grade it.

Let everyone take every performing enhancing drug. Let's see how far we can take athletics. If everybody, if it's not illegal, which means everybody could take it, everybody's on the same playing field. Common sense. I'm the complete opposite of what they were saying about Shikari. Let Shikari smoke weed and give her horse tranquilizers and let's see how fast she can run. The fact is- Let's break every record we can find.

That's still like... Let's do a land speed record as a human. Yeah. Like, that's still what. allowed to me that they didn't allow her to run because of marijuana. I'm a big supporter, but come Saturday when you guys are hearing that she's racing against all the three Jamaicans that one. You already know the time.

I like her too, guys. I love her. Yeah. I'm supporting her. I want to see her win. It's going to be tough. It's a little different over there. Yeah, it's going to be tough.

Anyways, yeah, with that said, I don't even know how we did a deep dive into sports. Well, they took assholes away from us at Yankee Stadium. That's how. I was on IG and I noticed that if I wanted to, I can have Meek add some decor to my place. I thought about it. I thought about hitting them up. Okay. Let Meek design do some interior decorating.

We have similar algorithms. Yeah, we do. Absolutely. I was minding my business scrolling through my IG at an hour that I don't really want to see Meek's face. I have no issue with Meek face. But past a certain time, I don't really need to see Meek like that. Yeah. And I see Meek, I believe he had, his legs were crossed in khakis.

No, his legs weren't crossed. I'm not going to let you do that to me. His legs were across. His posture was fire. He was sitting on the edge. Oh, yeah. He was sitting on the edge of the couch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was sitting like a man. He was in one of those polos that, like, you don't really know the brand. It's for people that own teens. He wasn't a polo. He had a t-shirt on. He had a t-shirt on. He had a white t-shirt on. I screenshot.

I know you did. He had a white. I think he had an all-white t-shirt, man. He didn't have a polo on. It wasn't LaCoste. It wasn't polo. He had one of those polo shit that. How you put me getting some khakis with his legs crossed in a polo?

He had some loafers on with it. No, he just had some, I don't know what type of pants. We had a t-shirt on. Okay, all right, he has a slim fit t-shirt. Yeah. But paired with this with this khaki combo. Like, he was trying to give you. He's giving you groan, you know.

I could still go to Philly. I'm mature, yeah. Like maybe downtown Philly. Yeah, I can go to brunch in Philly right now. Yeah. absolutely and it's some type of background that appears to be like a high-end luxury apartment in Manhattan yeah he wasn't there they definitely added that to the photo and it says celebrity interiors meek mill and then it has a link underline where it says shop meek you shop for meek

i'm not shopping i'm not clicking to shop meek but you don't want meek to like help you with your interior decorated he meek looked like he could pick out some fire pallets and shit like that meek a lot of I feel like Meek would put in your house. Yeah. He gave you some good colors. A lot of cheetah print. Good colors. A lot of leather.

He seemed like he'll give you a lot of matte black around the house. Like he'll keep it like, you know, that dark, that manly bachelor vibe. Meek would be like, yo, this whole room, let's just do what they did in belly. Yeah. You know that's what you would do. This is just a belly room. Absolutely. Everything black and white, this entire room.

I just want to know how Meek partnered up. And listen, maybe his, his eye and his palate is. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. He might actually... I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I would like to know.

I would like to know if he's really into decor like that. If he's really into like interior decorating and shit like that. That would be like, that's the interesting thing to learn about meek. Like, oh shit, you really into like interior decorating? I didn't know that. And I didn't even see here. We could go inside the Manhattan home of Grammy Award nominated artist Meek Mill. One, I didn't know he lived in Manhattan and y'all is snitching.

If I'm me... Right. Just put like tri-state. Yeah, like just give them like a... Manhattan is only so... It's like right here. And then now everybody's going to look at that backdrop. I know exactly what that building is.

Let's say. Meek, I support it. The Hood Olympics have started on IG. What are the Hood Olympics? The milk crate staircase. People all over the country are trying to climb up a staircase of milk crate stacked on top of each other to see who can make it up and down. I respect it.

I respect it too until you start to see people breaking their arms and their legs. It's not easy to stand on top of a milk. crate by itself, let alone stacking them on top of each other trying to walk up the milk crates. I mean, it looks like it takes critical thinking, physical strength. Mental fortitude. Yeah, this looks like this is some real skill building shit. Yeah, yeah.

I will say, though, I'm actually kind of happy social media is getting back to this because I do subscribe now. This could be pessimistic. Ignorance is bliss. I miss when social media was just planking and shit. Yeah, yeah. It was a fun time. Yeah.

Fun time. Expert social media isn't really for me. Yeah. Let's all just go do dumb shit and film it. Yeah, let's have fun. Let's ignore all our problems. Yeah, let's have fun. Everybody in the hood coming together.

Stacks and milk crates on top of each other. There's been some cash prizes, you know, help people pay some bills. A little $200 here, $300 here, you know. I think I can get to the third step. Fourth step. Give me four step. Yeah, I think around the third, fourth is where it gets shaky. That's what it's, because milk crates, they're the exact same size.

So when you stack them, they're literally like, You know what I mean? There's no room to wiggle and give. It's like literally you have to, you have to be able to walk like a ninja. You have to take ninja steps. Shorty was just stretching before. The Hood Olympics, you got to stretch before the Hood Olympics. You got to make sure, you got to make sure your body is limber. Yeah, you got to make sure your body is limber. Maybe she's preparing for the fall. Has anyone made it successfully through? Who is like the Carl Lewis of?

I've seen one, I've seen one young lady make it all the way across. They say she kind of sort of cheated because she like, she like basically ran down it. but she made it, you know. Do they drug test with this? Can you smoke weed and participate in this? All drugs are accepted. Encourage. Yeah.

They encourage you to be high when you try this. Preferably those are not your milk crates. I hope you're not just using the milk crates from your home and going outside and stacking them up. As long as their regulation size. Yes, I think they have people that check the crates and make sure their regulation. I think they have referees there to make sure that, you know, you're wearing the right sneakers because they don't want you wearing cleats. You know, cleats can go inside the milk crate holes. And you're coming up with the milk crate.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, they make sure you have the right footwear, the right equipment. I'm hearing Nike is ready to get behind this. Okay. I'm hearing Puma is at the table as well. So, yeah, man, I love it. I love the Hood Olympics, man. Let's keep the Hood Olympics going.

Anything to keep the community coming together and having a great time. Oh, all right. What actually important to happen? Shine is back in America as a diplomat. I like that. Shout out to Sean, man. It's an amazing, amazing story. Rishon looks more like President Obama every time I see him on Instagram.

I don't think all black people look alike, so I'm not going to agree. No, all black people don't look alike. But he has the same low haircut, no beard, same kind of complexion. He definitely has some grays coming in there now. I think he looks more like Kenny Anderson than President Obama. He looks like he looks like a little bit like Kenny Anderson. But it's definitely, I saw one picture and it was like a quick take. I was scrolling.

I was like, oh, no, that's Sean. I thought it was President Obama. but Sean is back in America for the first time since being deported in 2009. He is back as a diplomat and representative of Belize. Is he wearing a Yankee fitted with a suit? I want him to throw to fit it on one time. He has to throw it fit it on one time for the culture, man. He has to.

He has to. This is like, come on, this is like full, this is a complete story now. Like the last time we saw you, you were walking in courthouses, fighting for your freedom, you know, fighting a case. With a Yankee fed it on. With different fitted zone with your suits. And now to come back to America as a diplomat and a representative of beliefs. Especially when the, when dipset needs it the most.

Oh, my God. To throw the fitted on now. Is he going to meet with the locks to, like, try to clear this old thing up? That would be great. They need a representative right now. That would be fired for like the locks and the diplomats to sit down with a real diplomat now. Like, that would be, that would be fired. And it's Sean Poe.

Like, are you? They were label mates. Yeah, like that would be crazy. Like, that's like, that's the culture of hip hop in a, in a nutshell, right there. That's like, that photo would be like, this is what hip hop. The first time I was ever cursed out in the music business was from Shine. Really? Mm-hmm.

He had, uh... Did you soil your pants? Well, I didn't know who it was. It was over the phone. And I didn't quite know who it was at first. He had just gotten out of jail. And he still had a contract with Def Jam, and I was answering phones there as an intern. Okay.

And a gentleman with a raspy voice. was looking for Gabby, shout out to Gabby. And I was like, well, she's not available. And I think someone, you know, you think someone that just did 10 years might be a little bit more patient. Right. He was not patient. No, no, no, no. And didn't give a fuck who I was.

Yeah. Not that I was anybody. No. But go get Gabby. Yeah, right now. And I said, well, she's not available, Sarah. I'll have to talk to you later. Yeah.

And I hung up. And then the louder he got. So you hung up on Sean. I did. And then the louder he got on the second call, I realized, I think this is Shine. Yeah. And I think I'm in danger now. This sounds like a lot like Sean.

Yeah, yeah. And then I realized, oh yeah, he just got out to jail. Yeah. Because it wasn't like a jail phone. It was a regular phone. Right. And I guess for my safety, luckily, he did not come into the office. Okay, good, good, good.

But I, you know, I would have found a nice little nook to hide in at that point. Yeah, man. Well, yeah, no, Sean was about, I think he'll make a great diplomat because he certainly did not take my no for an answer to go find the person he was trying to talk to. Right. He was very persistent. He didn't take no for an answer. Yeah, I think he'd be a great day. Well, obviously he's doing a great job.

I believe he will be the next prime minister of Belize. You follow Belize politics? I mean, he's well on his way. They love him. He's a great representative of the country. His story is amazing. Like, why not? Do you know a lot about Belize?

I just... I have a lot of close friends from there. Yeah. Okay. And they're really into like what Sean is doing. They like it. Yeah, they like what he's representing. He's representing, you know,

that you can be a young man and make mistakes and you can turn your life around. You shouldn't be, you know, outcasted forever from a mistake you made when you were in your 20. I agree. You know what I mean? So he's just representing that. Ten years was harsh too. Absolutely. So, you know, I like that.

He's an example of what a second chance could do for somebody. So I'm absolutely behind that. Shout out to Sean. Shout out to Belize and shout out to Puff because he had a lot to do with I read. He had a lot to do with Sean being able to come back and, you know, represent Belize and get his diplomatic. Did he really? That's what I read. Yeah.

I read that. I wasn't sure. I don't know if it's true or not, but I read it. So if it is true, shout out the Puff. I wasn't sure where the Shine and Puff relationship stood at this point. Oh, no. I think that's a Sean is, he seems like he's passed all of that. Like whatever happened then, you know, he's passed that.

He's moved on and, you know, now he's representing his, his home, his homeland. And I'm back in the States for the first time in 12 years. Oh, I love to see that. Great story. I like these types of redemption stories. Amazing story. Good to see he's doing well. China has kids too, I believe, so.

Good to see that that's happening. Yeah, I'm glad he wasn't, uh, forgot. I was thinking over the weekend what happened, and this kind of ties into this, I suppose. What happened to so many of the first ladies of each rap label? I feel like every, like, sub-rap label we got, like three or four dudes would make it. And then they'd be like, yo, it's Tom. We're introducing you to the first lady. of

Rockefeller. Why are they forgotten about so quick? I don't know. We've had some that have made it. Yeah. I've definitely had something that made it, but I feel like at least the early 2000s

like they gave a mill every just blaze beat that you could find. And then we no longer saw a mill. I don't know what happened with Sean in Disturbing the Peace. I don't know what happened. Well, we saw what happened with Olivia and Junet.

She went on to have a good career with love and hip hop and all that. Should dudes just not run the women's side of labels anymore? I feel like they just never make it. They're just gone immediately. I think it definitely would help to have more female representation at the labels working with the female talent. I think that would help.

Because like with Olivia, it was like, all right, let's introduce y'all. Here's the first lady of G unit. And it's like, well, she's just going to sing the hooks to these. violent records and then like have a pretty face. Yeah. And then we're going to try to put an R&B album out. Yeah. And see how the fans like it.

It was, again, it was a time in music where that was like, it was like the cookie cutter thing. Every label had to have their first lady. Yeah. But I think that approach was wrong. I think that, you know, again, it was like you put on a hook. She might have a record that pops. And we then after that, you know, that catches some momentum. Then we could try to record an album.

But again, I don't know if it was. because it wasn't enough female representation as far as, you know, like on the executive side behind these women's, their careers. And I think that would help because, you know, women communicate with each other differently than they would with men. Men being executive, sometimes we just don't get it. We don't understand the female artists. Because I think, I mean, it worked with Murder Inc. But just, I think Murder Inc. was making female inspired type music to begin with so it's easier to put Ashanti into that system. Right.

Everybody else I feel like just failed miserably until maybe cash money and Nikki, which I guess would be young money. Did cash money ever have a first lady? I'm not sure. Well, no, before that, we got to go back Eve with Rough Rider. Eve and Rough Rider certainly worked. Yeah. That definitely worked.

But Eve was definitely of that cloth, so it made a little bit more sense. Like the way Eve was rapping and the type of music she was making. Yeah. I'm thinking like more the first lady R&B shit even though Amil was rapping she still kind of had a melodic Oh so you're talking about just strictly R&B Yeah because I feel Well it's tough because a lot of those labels were known for just rap

Exactly you know what I mean So it's like you're known for rap you're known for this sound And then you want to give us an R&B act It's kind of like that's not really what your algorithm is You know what I mean like back then that probably was the algorithm It's like rap gangster rap gangster rap gang now you want R&B like no we're not really fucking with that. I mean, I do kind of miss the times where it was you had to have your like R&B hook rap song on every single album. Yeah. I feel like that shit is going now.

What was the last time like that that exists? 16 girl on the hook. No. First of all, it's not even a girl on the hook. Like that alone is not even the thing anymore. I think Drake from time might be the last record that was like that. What, 16 in the hook? Like that style of we're going to rap, put a girl on the hook, and then we're going to rap again and the girl on the hook and then it's over. Like, you know, the R&B record that went on every guy's 21 questions, karma, like that. Right, that was a prototypical way of making rec. Yeah, but you know what?

I'm happy that that changed, though. Because in a sense, that's too repetitive. It's the same thing over and over and over. Like, I'm happy now with a lot of the ways that these new artists, they create their songs. It's like 20 bars, 24 bars, a hook. I do too. And I can appreciate that. The hook might be first and then, like, nine bars, like.

usually the hook first yeah you know what i mean like i kind of like that i like that they switched it up like that but the way like they do the nostalgic shit and i mean i guess all the shit like berg makes is kind of in that that realm a little bit as far as like let's rap then we'll do the hook well he comes from that it's just i feel like other people could start doing that nostalgic shit a little bit better because i did appreciate when we stopped doing such structured songs but now it's getting a bit out of hand where yeah i don't even know like i feel for djs like where where do I even start to cut this record? How do I transition into this record?

This is insane. Yeah. But, you know, again, I think it goes back to just as an artist, you know, it's really, you don't really have any rules. How you choose to create your art is how you choose to create it. I just don't like the fact that all of these younger acts kind of sound alike. Like, I can't differentiate, like, voices and shit. That's our ear.

Like, to everyone. No, but a lot of these. They could tell. We can't. Well, yeah, they can tell because they, They're entrenched in it. So they can, like, you know, they know who's who. And like, you know, us, we just hear a record.

I don't, I can't tell a difference anymore. I'm sure they would say about our era. They probably couldn't even tell Nas's voice. No. You can tell Nas's voice. Like, we can, man. These kids can't. Well, that's true.

It's different type of ears. Speaking of that shit, though, not to get too much into current events, but that, that Lizzo and Cardi thing was interesting to watch these past few days. What happened? I wasn't, I'm not, I'm not. They put out a record and, and you know, Cardi, anytime she's a, a, feature comes with a video and the video tends to be a little racy, if you will. Okay.

You know, people will be naked for the most part. And she did a record with Lizzo with the same formula, but, you know, different body type, if you will. And naturally, the internet-internated. And I guess I look at this in a different angle. This is the response I felt like they were going for, though. Like, uh, what? everyone outraged? Not outraged.

The body shaming fat jokes as well as people feeling empowered from it. I feel like this is what they were getting from. Because like when they did the WAP video with Meg and Cardi, got two reactions. People loved to see Meg and Cardi be themselves, body positive, all that type of stuff. And then you got everyone else that was super outraged at a specific topic, which was how could you ever say wet-ass pussy. What about the children? Oh my God. This is terrible. With this one, you got body positive. We like our bodies. And I'm sure plenty of people that have these shaped bodies felt empowered by. It was great to see that. And then you got outraged people that say,

yo, I don't want to see that shit. So what else are you trying to provoke from these videos? Right. It almost feels like you know exactly what is going to happen from it. And then you know your outrage response. How could you guys get mad at us for doing this video? Like it's becoming a formula. It's just that the Lizzo one is a different formula. Well, people are going to react to everything now. We know that. So they knew a reaction was coming.

But yeah, I can see that being part of it. They knew what was going to come of this. Cardi was obviously pregnant. And then, you know, the body type thing, but still being sexy, still being, you know. I just, I feel like now the whole marketing plan for everything. And this is not just, I'm not just. saying this from the Lizzo video. I say this with all the ones before it as well is just to capitalize on the split outrage opinion of what it is and then to be outrised outrised by the outrage.

Now we're sitting here like, oh my God, why are people saying these mean things about this body type? That's going to happen. You knew that was going to happen. Yeah, that's going to happen. I don't care. But you also know that people that have those body types actually feel empowered that they are now in one of these videos. They're being representative. Exactly. It's great. But that's what they, everybody's going to have a reaction. Everybody's going to feel some type of way. some people are going to be happy, some people are going to be outraged. I think that these artists know that. Lizzo obviously doesn't give a fuck.

People, anytime she says anything or walks outside, somebody has something to say about it. Well, she did an interview and said that she does give a fuck. Oh, really? She said, yeah, anytime, I'm paraphrasing, anytime she's, because they had said, you know, always feel like your chin is always up. You always look super positive all the time. She's like, yeah, look that way even when I'm really upset. Yeah, she doesn't like the comments as well, which is understandable.

but I kind of feel like when you do, you have to understand the world to some degree. When you do a video like this, you know the type of reaction that is going to come. Oh yeah, they lean into that. So if you feel like, all right, I know this will affect a lot of people positively too because there will be so many people.

There's more people that are naturally shaped that way in the world because that's just how humans are shaped naturally. Exactly, yeah. You know people are going to appreciate that. So I don't know, just leaning into the negative. I get it, but it felt scripted to me the same way it did with WAP too. When they knew people would be outraged about the kids thing and that's what they focused on.

Let's go after that. And let's go back and forth for everyone else. People definitely market to outrage for sure. Like we know that. That's not a secret. That is part of the marketing plan now. Like how do we get people to be outraged and voice their opinions and go online and start all of these polls and these hashtags? and, you know, that's all, it's all part of the game.

It's all part of just the numbers and the algorithms and all this other shit that people play into. But I didn't hear the record. More importantly, how was the music? It's cool. I mean, I'm, I'm not the biggest Lizzo fan, like, music-wise. It's nothing to do with her at all. Yeah, but she's definitely not targeting a man.

Of course, of course. Do I understand why people love her music? Of course. It's catchy fucking music. She makes good music as far as pop. style that I know people are going to like. Right. But I mean, it's a song I'm not going to listen to.

Yeah. But then again, I didn't really like listen to Wop either. They're not, they're definitely not targeted. Like the Normani song I love. I think it's a really good record. I think the video was amazing. I don't go back to the crib like in my house. I'm like, whew, let me throw on this Normani.

Had a rough day. I just don't. So for me to comment on these types of records, it's probably not fair to the artist. It's not for us. They're not marketing towards us. They're not targeting us. but you know we can still listen and give our opinion because that's what you do as a consumer you have the right to give your opinion on what you purchased and you know invested in so

it is what it is but uh just some of this marketing uh it's just not working on me again it's not the marketing's not for me it's not for the overall outrage that you continue to reply to has to do with the general public and i don't mind the outrage and all of that as long as the music is still of a certain quality as long as it's not just like Like, you know, as long as you can tell like, okay, they really made a record. Like, this is a record. This is something that's dope. When you start to just see, like, the record is trash and you can see the marketing,

that's when I'm like, oh, y'all, you're just playing a, you're just trying to just get the numbers to jump and spike and all of that shit. Like, give us good music because at the end of the day, that's what counts. You know what? You know what's the brilliance of outrage marketing? Like, the sheer brilliance of it is it makes everyone feel involved and important and feel like they're part. of whatever side of the cause you're on. Right. That's what outrage marketing murders in. You have now taken everyone that would not listen to this song or care about this song

or this video. They're going to go listen to it. Now we feel like we're part of it. Yeah. And I feel like I'm part of a conversation. Right. And not only that, the people that didn't hear the record, they're going to see all of the outrage. Now they want to see what everybody's outraged about. Like, okay, well, let me go listen to this record that everybody seems to be either loving or upset about or whatever. I need to just go see what people are talking about. And on top of that, I feel like, I feel like every label, manager, marketer, et cetera, kind of uses the barbs as a blueprint when artists start to get a core fan base. Anytime, part of what has made Nikki so amazing is her fan base.

As annoying as we say they are a lot, they're brilliant and they're dedicated. I know you're a bar. I think you're annoying. Yeah. of the brilliance of how much anytime something negative happens for Nikki, it always comes out as a positive because you have that fan base that is going to drive that shit up in that conversation like you would not fucking believe. There'll be so much defending.

Sometimes I feel like it's better for people to be going against Nikki in certain cases because it gets her fan base so riled up that they are going to make sure we are going to stream every fucking thing that we can. We are now part of this cause. Right. And that's how I feel like some of these videos and narratives and interviews go. Lizzo I know has a core fan base. And I'm sure they want to fight for her.

What's the best way to fight for? Let's start a conversation about, yo, I put this video out. It's body positive. I feel great in it. People are still shitting on me. Everything is to get a reaction. Everything is to get some type of momentum behind something. And, you know, again, like I said, if the music, all of that is fine, because I know that's part of it now.

But as long as the music is still of a certain quality and certain level, I don't mind. I'm talking like I care. I was just watching Ozzy Brothers on Tiny Desk. I cared about that. They did. Yeah, it came out yesterday. Oh, wow. Yeah.

I got to check that. Like, that's important to me. Yeah, no, that's, fuck everything else we just said. I stopped what I was doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. It's amazing.

It's amazing. Shout out to Tiny Desk. Yeah, I got to watch that. They killed that. I came across somebody else had a tiny desk that I had no The Dream had a tiny desk Yeah oh yeah for sure I didn't know that I had no idea a dream did a tiny desk

Yeah you'd be surprised at the amount of acts that I gotta watch that Ozzie Brothers one That's I can't even believe I haven't seen it yet It's phenomenal T-Pain is a really good one that's I mean a couple years old Yeah I saw that one T-Pain body Mac Miller's is amazing Yeah I saw that one

No tiny desks is that shit But I guess now that we're on music You're listening to the Bo Jackson Alchemist Boldie James Project. Yeah. What you thought about it? I mean, thought about

you know, maybe hitting you up and seeing if you had any connections of, like I could start I could start small, I could start, I could start yelling 5O on the corner. Like, you could start me out of the young. I can yell squalais from the corner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, it's a really, really good project. I like Boldie James, man. I like I like I like I like boley james a lot man I like I like his style I like the fact that you know he's I respect the artists that are just themselves and they're not trying to sound like anybody else they're not trying to look like nobody else they're not trying to like fit into a certain you know mold of what's going on they're not like I still respect because again that's what you know I was raised on that that's why how I came up listening to music I respected artists like that and boldie is a is a is a representative of that type of artist where it's just like I I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm not really paying attention to what's going on out here. I'm only moving when I want to move and what feels right to me, what sounds right to me. That's what we're doing. I respect that.

Why hasn't Griselda done a sole Griselda tour? Just Griselda? Mm-hmm. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure they have... Yeah. I'm sure they have it in the works. I'm sure they've talked about it.

And I'm sure it'll happen. I'm sure it happened. they have the roster yeah you know what i mean like they definitely have the roster um you know west side you know his brain and his his his curation and and just the things that he's doing with art and everything like that i think it would be it's a it's a it's a no brainer i'm more than positive that that's coming i'm sure that that's already being put together um but yeah i know it's coming because when you start to look at their roster it's like whoa like they have some really serious acts and the numbers that they're doing, you know, with the music and with merch

and shit like that. And then, you know, how everything looks. Everything is like a collection of piece. So, yeah, I'm more than positive of Griselda tour is definitely going to. Yeah. Or some type of just one-off festival. If it's in Buffalo, if it's in Atlanta. No, they're definitely going to go on.

They just have a roster now that's so active as far as, you know, fans will actually come out. They have that type of core fan base. But just day, it was just random in there. Did you see the little Wayne interview with Emmanuel Acho, I believe is his name? If I mispronounced that, I apologize. But he has a platform called Uncomfortable Conversations. We talked about mental health with Wayne.

And typically when there's Wayne interviews as of recent outside of his podcast stuff, they haven't been the greatest. I feel like people have thrown a microphone in Wayne's face when it probably didn't need to be there at the moment. I don't think Wayne was in a place to even really have those type of conversations. This was a complete opposite. This was a really good conversation. Wayne got into trying to commit suicide, his depression. I was kind of, I was a bit more shocked at the response of it of people feeling like.

like Wayne like damn I never would have thought that of Wayne and I'm like have y'all been listening I mean one of my favorite Wayne songs I feel like dying yeah in no way would I say he's one of the first artists to like get into mental health stuff but his whole career I've really felt like Wayne has been crying for help like a lot yeah absolutely absolutely I think we talked about that before I think we may have touched on that a little bit pause but um You know, I mean, I'm glad Wayne is at a space where he could talk about it. And, you know, hopefully he's continuing to get the help that he needs and the love and support that he needs because he is one of our treasures. He's, again, I always say, like, to me, Wayne is one of the most important pieces in hip hop.

One of the realest pieces in hip hop because for him to, you know, put his ego to the side and move out of the way and allow Nikki and Drake to become the stars that they became when he was at the height of his career. I don't know any, I don't know if we've ever seen that happen before. We're an artist as big as Wayne was, you know, stepped out of those, stepped to the side and allowed his artist to shine and become the superstars that they are. And his only issue with that entire thing was, why did Drake fuck one of my side chicks while I was in Rikers? Only time he kicked up some shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was the only, the only rift me had.

Why'd he do that? Yeah, it's like, you know what I mean? But that's what I'm saying. It's just like, we don't really, we got a really. respect Wayne, man, because that's not something that a lot of people are willing and know how to do. We'll just put their ego to the side, especially when you are as big of a star as Wayne and, you know, to just literally say, you know what, I'm going to put my shit on hold and let my crew eat and let them shine, let them become megastars and let them change the culture and change the game.

You know, that just does not happen. We do not see that. We usually see the superstar didn't have these younger acts or these acts up under him and hear them making a record and he takes the record for himself and, you know, keeps furthering his career and his stardom. That's what we're used to seeing. We're not used to seeing the guy say, you know what? Nah, hold on. Let me get out the way. Let them go. Let them. Yeah. So, you know, for me, forever, Wayne is, you know, one of my favorite people just for that alone. Like, that, that's, that takes a lot of, of, you know, it's a certain type of person that will, will do something like

that. I mean, I was shocked that he was saying he knew at a really, really young age that he did have mental health problems because you see with, you know, Wayne's not your typical child star, but he's a child star. Absolutely. He's a child star. And he went through a lot of trauma. And typically those child stars don't realize that mental health problem until way later on. And he was talking about suicide at 12 years old.

Yeah. And to feel that way at 12 and then be a superstar, well, let me not say superstar right way, but a star from when you were 14 to now and you have not killed yourself is crazy. And I like that's crazy. And I love that. It didn't happen. I just want to make that. No, absolutely.

But I like this for Wayne because I think that if anybody can actually make, you know, therapy and talking about mental health cool and okay would be somebody like Wayne because he doesn't really talk a lot. Yeah. He doesn't sit down. So, you know, he's not doing this because, you know, it's the wave right. now and it's what everybody's doing. You can tell it's coming from a genuine place. And, you know, he's just that type of figure where if he's sitting now talking about it and he's saying, like,

you know, you have to get therapy. Even if you feel like you don't, you should. You know, mental health is part of physical health. It's just the way you go to the gym. You need to go to therapy and sit down and talk to somebody. Because they can help you understand certain things, certain traumas that you might be suppressing, especially being a superstar like Wayne, you have all of this money, which means you have access to whatever you want. So if you want to abuse drugs is dangerous because you have so much money that you can supply your habit and end up in a position where, you know, you spiral out of control and want to kill yourself and all of these things. So I like the fact that, you know, if Wayne is going to sit down and

address this mental health thing and talk about his issues and put him out there, I think it hits more coming from Wayne because he really doesn't sit down and talk to people and he doesn't so, you know, he's not doing this just to catch a moment. Like, he's really doing this because it's something that he cares about and it's something that he wants to put out there to help other people that are dealing with the same thing. He'll slip on a Salon's record and say, I tried to kill myself and it didn't work. I was so mad. But I had an interesting, this is random off topic, but not really. At the Donda show, I had a halfway sarcastic but serious conversation with a gentleman. I won't say his name, but certainly famous and has been famous for a long time

and has talked about his grievances with fame and with mental health. And we were watching the Kanye show, and I said to him, man, it must be nice to find religion as a rich person instead of a poor person. And his eyebrows went up, and he was like, I completely disagree. And I said, well, when people are finding religion when they're poor, it's usually because they have nothing and they're trying to find something with hope and with actual faith to survive the day

because they don't have anything really material that can keep them going. The only thing they have is hope. Right. So they need something to believe in and this will continue to have them work every single day

even if it looks like there's no light at the end. And he was like, nah man, when you're rich, trying to find religion means you've attained every last thing you thought you ever needed

in your entire life and you're still empty and you still have nothing going on. like, poor people were religion. Like, yeah, that's their way to go. They bring their family there. It's something that keeps this family unit together and everything. Usually when rich and famous people find it,

it's because they have had, they have everything. And they thought that's all they ever needed. And now they're just this empty vessel and they have to go find it. So like, we're watching the Donathan, not to say he was saying this about Kanye West at all. Right, right. But it was like, this is an example of someone that has reached the highest successes of success. and still can't figure it out.

Like, you realize you could still be that person waiting for the bus and it's not going to matter what your God is if you're not happy yourself. Yeah, it's not. It's all within. It's all, you know, again, you can have all the money in the world. You can have all the success and fame and stardom. But if you're not, you know, when you're alone in your home and you're in bed with your own thoughts and everything,

And that's who you are. You know, I mean, everything outside the home and, you know, people love you for and what they recognize you for, your talent and your God-given abilities, you know, that's, that's good, too, but if you don't have something inside of you where you're at peace with yourself and you have a certain understanding of who you really are, you know, I mean, the minus the lights and the cameras, who you are as a person. And, you know, if your mental health is not there and you have a lot of issues in your family, your household that you're dealing with.

Those are the things that make you who you are. You know, I mean, everything else is just what God is given. And, you know, it brings people to you and people show you love or, you know, what you, what you deem to be love and appreciation. But if you're not right within, none of that shit matters. You know what I mean? That shit is like, you know, it's okay for the moment. But again, once the noise stops and once the cheer stop and once the arena is empty,

who are you? You know what I mean? Yeah. And I agree with them some degree. But I also said, yeah, there's also. also people that are paying 10% of their ties to their church and are making, you know, $300 a week. This guy just rented out an arena to go through his episode.

Don't talk to me. I mean, you go through your episodes however you can. You know what I mean? However you can get your shit off and, you know, and your therapy, yeah, get your therapy shit off. Like, you know, it is what it is. But at the end of the day, if you're not right within, like, that shit don't matter. So I was sitting home, man. I was thinking about a lot of things that I just hate, like things that annoy me.

Okay. And one of the things that really annoys me is when people screenshot who they're on FaceTime with and then posting on social media. That shit really bothers me. It's an invasion of prophecy. Why? Let me just ask simple questions. Why?

Why do that? They want us to see who they're on FaceTime with. That's the easy one. That's right to it. Why? Look at this person because I don't, I'm really not that cool with this person. So I want the world to know that I'm cool with this person. If I was that cool with that person, I wouldn't do that.

But I hate that. I'm going to be honest. I don't. That just is just, it's a little weird. Lay of the land at this point. And you just never. How do you know what the lay of the land? I know the lay of the land.

I've laid on the land. I've laid a lot of this land. You have. You and your forefather. Yes. You stole a lot of it. stole a lot of this land too, but we're going to talk about that.

We prefer lay of the land. Oh, okay. I listen. Yeah, I get it, man. So, Native Americans, y'all,

let's lay on this. Let's lay on this land right here. Let's lay on this land right at you. We brought some people over here and say, y'all lay on it for us. Exactly. Oh, my God. I also hate when people like,

you know, when you have a text conversation, and please don't do this worry. If I pass away before, you God forbid. But please don't post text messages between us. Like when I gave you encouraging words, I don't even know if I've ever given you encouraging words through text.

You haven't, by the way. But if I have, don't ever be like, yo, you know, I got to keep it going for them all, like, because you know, this is my God. Don't screenshot any of my text messages and post them. Please don't do that. Matter of fact, the most encouraging thing you've ever texted me was, man, we're not going over there tomorrow. That's as far as it goes. It's the most encouraging thing I've ever heard. Man, I ain't going to.

Hey, look, it worked out, though. Listen, man, fuck that. We ain't going over here. Yeah, absolutely. Fuck that. We ain't going over there. No, that is always kind of weird to me. Yeah, I don't understand.

It's like, bro, like, I'm more than positive. That person did not want that to be public information. Like, yeah. And it's typically from the people that were never that close with you at all. I just don't, it's just certain shit about that just rubs me wrong. Like, I still don't, I don't even know what to do. Like, if somebody posts on their social media, like, someone that passed away, do you like that picture?

Like, I don't like that this person passed away. I always get awkward that one, too. I've accepted now that it's okay to like that, but it took me like three or four years to be like, all right, you're saying this person died. Yeah, I don't like that. Why would I like this?

Yeah, I don't like this picture. But, you know, I'm prayers to the family and to you and your friend, but I don't know if I should like this picture. I, and I shouldn't laugh, but I laugh more at the people that post, like, the text message combos that, like,

are mad regular. Like, I could see, all right, if there was some cool, like, really long paragraph encouragement you gave me, like, I just want to show, how positive this person was in my life.

Like they really helped me. Like, let's keep this message going on. I've seen people like really post text message combos like, where we at tonight? Yeah. You know, he was such an exciting person. He always went out. He was so vibrant.

Like, no, fan. He was asking what the move was. Who was it that posted a DM from somebody, like a celebrity, somebody at a DM? It was a girl. And she posted a DM from a celebrity. Somebody that passed away and was like, damn, I should have answered this DM.

Oh, I remember that. I forgot who that was. I do remember that, though. That was the nastiest shit in history. I was like, there's no way she really did that. She did not post that. I also hate when people post, like, them holding, like, their grandmother or grandfather's hand while they're dying in the hospital bed.

Yeah, I've been to a lot of funerals. Why are you posting a dead hand? My phone out, but. Yeah, like, why? People grieve the way they grieve. No, man, that shit is weird, bro. That shit is not for, that's not for social media. I'm sorry.

That's not. That's an intimate family moment. That's something that you should cherish with your family and your loved ones. You should not be putting that on a social media platform. I'm sorry. You should not be holding your grandparents dead hand and posting that. That's just not for social media. I'm sorry.

Listen, it's not something I would do. If that's the way someone wants to grieve, that's fine with me. What's not fine with me is when you was kind of just like a pop to him and you try to post all these blurry photos that he was clearly trying to not be in He was trying to move out the way. It's like they're all like weird sneaky photos. Like he was, he was in the booth. I hate the sneaky photo.

The sneaky photo is like. Don't sneaky photo me when I'm dead. I don't even, you know, I'm just like if I see somebody take a sneaky photo now, I don't even say nothing about it. I just stop. I just completely stop fucking with them. And they'll never know why. I don't even tell him why.

Yeah. I don't even tell him why. I'm like, come, I saw that sneaky shit you did. Like, I'm not, not fucking with you. How would you, I guess we'll try to flip this into the male gender. thing because I've only seen it the other way. I've always seen what people pass. A lot of women come out to woodworks and say we were dating and all that type of thing.

Where would you be at if some reason your girl passed away? And like a lot of guys came with some posts. What do you ask me? I want to know what you're? While you were grieving your girlfriend's loss, you then had to deal with these dudes just posting text message conversations, sneaky photos, other shit. man that's that's a tough position because it's almost like you're grieving obviously but it's like now you like I don't even know who I'm grieving over like who is this who was she yeah like she lived a whole separate life that I had no idea about oh I thought you meant the other

people no no no I'm talking about my girl if a whole bunch of guys are posting text messages and pictures with my girl and I didn't know who they were I would and not old photos like if this was before me I'm not tripping Like if you know you're for sure yeah I'm talking about like oh no I know that outfit like I know where she went that day I remember she told me she was going shopping that day no she went shopping that she didn't she went shopping with crazy she spent no money came back in mad bags yeah it's like oh no shit like that's like damn like I really didn't I really didn't know her at all but like could you condemn the dead at that point or do you just kind of have to you got to like think about your last memory of yeah you got to take that's that's you got to that's your girl. Yeah, you got to take that on the chin and just... And, like, still support her family. Absolutely. You have to. Because you want to...

That's rough. You want to be honorable. Like, no matter what, you know, happens, you still want to be honorable. You still want to, you know, carry yourself a certain way. It's going to hurt. Like, you're going to feel like, damn, my girl was out here just friends with everybody. But you got to be honorable. You can't condemn your girlfriend because of it. Okay. Now, other side of that coin, I know you would never do this, but let's say you would do that because we have no women on mic right now.

Do you think you owe to your partner that you may have, didn't know if you were a side or didn't know if you were just one of many? Do you not owe it to him to still hold it down after death? Do you not owe it to Shorty? Like, if you were the side dude?

You can grieve privately. Yeah. Like, if you held it down, I was alive, shut the fuck up when I'm dead. But I've actually seen that. Like, I've been, you know, to some few. funerals for friends and they've had girlfriends, you know what I mean?

And you can always tell who the side, it's like she's a little too distraught. Nobody really knows her. You know what I mean? It's kind of like, yo, why is she crying that hard? Yeah. You know what I mean? Why that hurt so much? I've seen it.

But that's why you need your friends after death. Do you cover for you? Like, she's just an emotional person. I'm not going to lie. Like, yeah, like we've been, me and. and the homies have been, you know, to, unfortunately, to some friend's funerals. And it's funny because when you spot the side and she going crazy and crying, like, I've had a moment, this is a true story. We end the funeral home and the side start going crazy. Yeah. But we knew

her. I know, because it's the homie. He told us about it. She going crazy. So me and my home, me and my homie are sitting like, it's like two people in between us in the row. And so I got my head down and I kind of just turned and look at my homeboy. He started laughing. And I'm like, I'm like, fam, I got to get out of here because I don't want to be seen laughing at a, in this funeral home. But we knew when we were laughing at, like, because we had a talk. We like, yo, she's definitely going to show up. And she's definitely going to go crazy.

And you know your man's is probably laughing with y'all at that time too. Of course he was. Or probably like, yo, can y'all please get her out of here? Like, yo, you're dead, fam. There's nothing that's going to happen to you right now. Does it matter more for you to hold it down and be like, yo, we don't even know that girl.

I think that's just a stranger off the street. I'm holding it all the way down. Never. She's a crisis actor. But the girl, no, like she know which friends to ask. Like, we're not, we're never telling you like that was his side. Never, that's never happening. We're not doing that.

You got to hold it down for your homie forever. Yeah, I feel like the grieving process is like really selfish sometimes. It has to be. Depending on which your role in position was in a person's life, absolutely. It has to be. Like, if you were a side chick, like, yo, try to hold it down. I know it's a sad time and all that, but you knew what it was.

You know, this man was married or he got a girlfriend and, you know, it's like you can't come to the funeral home crying, going hysterical. Like, play the cut. Not saying you can't cry, but play the cut. Don't go up to the casket all laying on them and pulling. It's like, yo, if I die. If I die, you have an extended contract. Absolutely.

The side contract cannot end the day I die. No. It's still extended. Yeah. Maybe like five, six years. Yeah. When she gets over it, she finds a new dude. But you got to, you got to hold it that.

Yeah, you got to hold it down, though. You got to hold it down. How long after, if you're married and you pass away, how long after, you know, I mean, you don't have no say. You're no longer on earth. But how long after would you be, like, happy in your afterlife for your girl to move on and, like, date other people? Like, what's a sufficient amount of time for her to grieve and then move on? Define move on. You know, start.

Are we saying just some dick? Are we saying a dating relationship? Yeah, like how long, okay, how long after you die can your girlfriend at the time of your death? How long after would it be okay for her to like suck dick? Like without you in your grave, start punching like the grave. Like start kicking the grave. Like how long after is it like, okay? Moving on, dating, relationship, everything was just fine in my head and I was going to answer that.

Like, I was kind of cool with pretty early. until you said suck dick. And I was like, we're going to get right to the pain. We're going straight to the pain because you know that shit hurt. Okay. Can I add some stipulations into this?

We can negotiate. Go ahead. Am I allowed to haunt her? That's hating. Like that's hating. Like that's hating. You hate it. If you haunt your girl

because she's sucking dick after you die, you hate it. God makes the rules. I'll make the rules. If I'm allowed in the hunt VIP section. That's hating. That's hating. That's hating.

Don't, you can't haunt your girl for that. No. You can't haunt your girl for that. Not for sucking dick, no. I mean, I wouldn't want to be in the room. Like, when she went to the bathroom to wipe her mouth off, then I want to pop up in the mirror. Because, Matt, look what you want to do.

Like, I don't want to watch. I don't want to haunt. But, like, if you... I'm not really Casper the friendly ghost in that way. That's perfect. Say you can see it, though. Like, you moved on to another realm and your spirit, you're in the spirit world now, right? We don't know what happens after that.

Let's just say what you can see, what you can't see. Yeah. Like, would you want to be, like, there? Like, because the movie ghost, right? I know. Would you want to be there and like see your girl like sucking her next dude off? And then like, what if it's somebody you know and she told you like, oh, like he ain't, you know what I mean? It was one of those like, like, I don't even look at him like that.

Here's my fear. She would come to heaven and then we'd reunite and then I'd have to question. Wait, wait. Then I'd have to question a body count. How you, like, what did you did when I die? What you doing? What you doing for her to get to heaven? Because you said that too, like, you're going to come to heaven.

Like, what you mean? Well, she could suck dick and still go to heaven. No, absolutely. I know she can. I'm just saying, like, how does she pass? What happens? Is this something like that you orchestrated? She died giving roadhead.

She died in a car accident, given don't some of the two. That's not funny. That's terrible. All right, so she comes to heaven and then what? You arguing in heaven now? Well, if I didn't see what was going on, yeah, like, maybe I have to ask, like, you know, it's been 50 years. What if I passed really young?

and she lives her life. Right. And then all of a sudden she got other kids. Now I got to raise them in eternity. Like, I don't want to be a stepfather in eternity. Yeah. I have questions. At least if I see and know what's going on,

I can move on in the spiritual world and go find a nice young woman that hasn't been tainted by life. Yeah, an angel. You're going to find an angel. Yeah. I get it. I see where you're going with it. Listen, terrorists get what, 75 virgins when they murder people?

Yeah, something like that. There's got to be some shit up there. Yeah, something for us for sure. I don't need her anymore. But you didn't answer the question. How long after can she suck dick after you die? Tough, I know, it hurts. Even in the afterlife, it hurts.

Here's the thing. I've been very sad before, and I've grieved before. And I've been pretty vulnerable and easy to fuck. I might have to let her go on her journey pretty quickly. Right into it? SMA. Yeah. Damn.

Okay. I received it. I guess I got a respect. that. I guess I got a respect. I'm only saying that because what happens when she also gets up to heaven and realize heaven has been like this crazy orgy party and she's like, well, you was up here doing this and then we're in an argument. That's definitely something to go. Like fucking up the orgy in heaven. Yeah. So. Okay. Well, pretty quick for you. What you got like 40 years? Somewhere, give a take. Somewhere along the lines of, you know, five, ten years maybe. Yeah,

for sure. I, she can have sex pretty quickly. And I'm right. I feel like sucking dick takes effort. Yeah. Like you've thought about that. Why does that always hurt more? It's the, I don't know, it's the mouth.

I don't know why sucking dick hurts way more. It hurts way more. Way fucking more. It's just like you really, like you got, you had to get in that position. I feel like anyone could lay there and get fucked.

And like, even if it's consensual, you're still like, maybe I shouldn't. Yeah. Men and women have both done that during consensual sex. Like,

I shouldn't be doing this. We shouldn't be. We shouldn't be fucking right now. This was a mistake. I should not. And still be fine afterwards and it's not a thing. Sucking dick, though. You gotta be like, that's work.

Yeah. And if your girl's a head monster too when she takes her craft seriously. Ooh. Ooh. Your girl, a head monster for the next one? That hurt. Ooh, because you know. And what if he's not even like supportive?

What if he doesn't even walk her through the grieving process? Oh, man. That's hilarious. We are some sick dudes. I just thought about that. No, death is inevitable. We should think about these things all the time. It is.

But I hate the small talk. I hate the small talk right after sex, too, though. After you fuck a girl whose husband just died or just in general? No, no, no, just in general. Like, just small talk after sex. Why? Because I'd rather just, like, eat some cereal and go to sleep or just watch TV or something and pass out. I don't want to really talk.

Well, not so much these days, but I used to be insecure. sexually. So I used that small talk time to like figure out if like I did. I like I would try to find little cues. You ask you you'd be asking. No I would know I had too much pride to ask. And I was too incompetent to just know that I beat that up. So I would try to find like little. But you can you can you can tell like if she get up and start like you know fucking rearranging the living room and shit like that like you really didn't put it down like you was. I used to think like when she'd want to like you know, kind of fake cuddle, like kind of snuggle into my shoulder real quick after we fucked.

In my head, I was always like, oh, no, I beat that up. That's what I used to think. Then I started to realize like, oh, no, she just thinks I'm a good person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She wants to slow me. Maybe I'm boyfriend material. Or maybe she was like, damn, like, let me just console him because he really didn't do a good job, but I don't want him to feel bad about himself.

Yeah, it's like, I don't want him feel bad about himself. Let me just pet him a little bit. That male ego kind of kicks in when you realize that you're just boyfriend material and you're not like just knock it out material. what would you rather be though? At this point in my life, boyfriend material. But when I was like really fucking around, yeah, kind of took offenses to like why you thought

I was that. Like I'm not as supportive. I was lying. I think, I don't know. For me, it depends on the woman. Like some women, it's like, I don't care if she looks at me like boyfriend material or not. Because I'm never going to be her boyfriend.

So, you know what I mean? We know that for a fact. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's just kind of like, okay, I don't care if she looks at me that way. No, that actually just used to break my heart a lot. Like, I really thought I was tearing shit up. And it was like, no, you just seem like you're a stable human being and you care about my feelings.

And that's why I'm giving you this confidence to think that you just beat it up. It was a rough thing to face more. To accept, yeah. It's tough. Especially when you thought you was putting in work. You're sweating and shit. And she's just like, meanwhile, she's called me a four-eim. Like, you know if she'd want to dig.

No, she just wants to talk about her. feelings and in return she's going to give me some pussy that's really all it is like I'm someone that she could confide into right she knows I'll understand it'll be good conversation oh and you know she'll give me some pussy in return that's really how that transaction went you know how many how many sexual partners do you have that you absolutely regret like you see them now like in public and you're like yo why did I ever uh I got a handful yeah I'm saying I got a handful. I saw one.

And that doesn't count the ones that I would take to the grave that don't even count because they're in the grave. Oh, we all have those. I would never admit it. It's something that I'm telling you right now, you would never even know. Never. I would never expose that information to anybody.

My regret rarely comes from the sex. It comes from what happened after. What happened after? No, just like who I found out who they were as people. Like, that's where my regret comes at this point in my life. Okay. I regret fucking you because I, I do. think I had no business sleeping with you.

Not even to get on some deep shit, but I do think like sex, energy is sexually transmitted. For sure. Like, I really feel like I've got, well, yes, of course. Those I don't regret because they told me a lesson in penicillin. But no, I've regretted like literally confining and sharing sexual experiences with people and realizing they were fucking dirtbag, insane women. Right. That's where my regrets come from.

Yeah. I've had bad sexual experiences with people, but I didn't regret it. Like, it just happened that way. But no, it only came out to who you were as a human after. Like, why would I stick my dick inside? Like, bumminess is sexually transmitted. For sure. You took all your bumminess, and now I have part of that on me.

Like, I'll definitely understand when women find out, like, some of the women that I've slept with, and they'd be like, I get it because they knew, like, what type of woman that was. Like, yo, okay, maybe she's pretty. like me you know whatever cool but she's trash though like you understand what I'm saying like and as men we don't understand that we just think it like oh yeah you hate it but it's like no they know something about that woman on a deeper level yeah so like yo you should never be like laying down with this woman I'm gonna ask a question to our new reoccurring guests in the corner yeah I'm looking at you at what age should a man really start respecting

his dick. Like, you should stop fucking them type of chicks. Just need a number. Curious. Where you'd give some leverage, like, all right, he was 24. It's okay that you was still fucking them. I think it's different for each man. Probably around the time he starts getting money and he can afford to fuck better. So, 27? Wait, we just uncover something.

So when niggas get money, they fuck better? I was about to say, that was the stupidest thing ever. If you couldn't hear her, she said, as soon as they start getting money and then threw in 27. But... Yeah. what's his name to tell us about him yeah trying to aim to fuck better women

and caring about who they fuck and that should be when they start getting more money they should start caring about things like that I think you're so when you're a bum-ass nigga you could just be fucking bum bitches okay wait first of all no

I completely I fucked some nice ones when I was yeah some of the best pussy I got was when I was broke and then I had some money and did some dumb shit like yeah yeah you're the bottom with a barrel yeah yeah but I There should be some type of age. I feel like with people in general.

And I know age is subjective, maturity, subjective. You got to go through that phase of, you know, you young and you're just having fun. And it's going to be some casualties that you're going to be like, what was I thinking? But I agree as you get older, you should definitely, like, there's certain things you should just not fall for anymore. She brought up when you start getting money is when maybe that should happen. I think if you stop doing that, you'd get to the money quicker. If you stop fucking? If, no, stop fucking bum people.

Like, back to that energy being. It's not like, and it's not just fucking, but that changing your entire thinking in that type of way. I agree. We'll get you to money quicker. It definitely all correlates for sure. But sometimes when you have money and she's a bum, like, you know, makes you feel better. Like, you really help in the community. Yeah, you got to give back.

You got to give back to the needy, man. It's just nothing wrong with that. I respect it. That was a random tangent. completely. But necessary. Very necessary. Only fans has announced that they will be blocking

sexually explicit content starting October 1st. This is the end of an error as we know it, Rory. No, it's the end of a company as we know it. But an error as well. Who is the CEO of OnlyFans? I have no idea.

That's the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my entire life. But it might be the best thing that ever happened to us, Rory. That's like the CEO of Google saying, you stop searching shit on my website. No more searching. I don't want no one searching or typing in on my website. But the only reason why this is a little different is because, you know, it came a time where, you know, only fans took off and, you know, the sexually explicit creators.

Which are creators. Yeah, they're creators. They felt like, you know, they started to walk with a little bravada, a little ego. They felt like they didn't need us. They felt like, you know, they were better than us. You're speaking from Only fans or you think they don't need us? Because I'll show you my subscription. Only fan.

They need me. Oh, you know. They definitely, but they didn't feel like they did. My overhead is crazy on OnlyFans. Why do you have an overhead on OnlyFans? But now that this platform is blocking sexually explicit content, oh, we might start to get those good morning texts again. You know, we might. You think we'll be back in the mix for free?

Oh, for sure. It's not. They're about to run Patreon up crazy. That's nasty. Is it? it? I don't think it's nasty. Going to Patreon to get naked is crazy. I'm not mad at it though.

Listen, here's the thing. Because all you do is give him a guitar. Like, if you're naked playing the guitar, I think it works on Patreon. I'm sure that the CEO of OnlyFans, whoever it is, is smarter than me and better a business than me. His name is Tim Stokely, I believe, yes. Tim Stokely. He's the OnlyFans founder. I don't know if he's the CEO. He's the founder. Cool. I'm sure he's smarter than me.

But as someone that is a consultant. of his product, which is OnlyFans. Sometimes you may create a product or create a platform with an idea of what you want out of it. And then a whole wave of consumers come in for a specific thing. And sometimes you have to hit him with a little audible. You have to Omaha at the line and go, we're only going to throw this pass for the rest of the game. If you don't lean into that, pornography is what you call it, because a lot of OnlyFans is just and the same shit they're on in Instagram, but

why is he not leaning into the pornography shit? Just become that. Like, what's wrong with that? Pornography is a billion dollar business. Absolutely. Just become that shit. Patreon's already doing everybody else with paywalls. Vimeo has a paywall.

Mad people at paywall. Just be the porno paywall. Let's read something from Daily News. It says, only fans will ban sexually explicit content starting in the fall in an effort to comply with its financial partners. On October 1st, the London headquartered company will start prohibiting the posting of any content containing sexually explicit conduct. Only fans said in a statement Thursday according to variety.

Yeah. Well, I'm sure some other creator, if you will, read that headline and already has the platform that it will be strictly dedicated to that. And if you don't think the women that do that type of content aren't the ones that know how to get to the bag and are smart enough to move the fuck on, we're about to make another billionaire. Absolutely. Only fans was around before it became the sexually, you know, explicit type of content.

But that absolutely blew OnlyFans into what it is now. And for the women that are porn stars, too, I thought it was such a great platform because I know we always sit here and always talk about musicians, artists, everyone that gets robbed by labels and bootlegging and, you know, everything that we know artists have went through from getting their music stolen and not gotten paid for it. Porn is probably the most bootleg thing on earth.

Absolutely. So finally, as a porn star, where I get paid one fee to some website and then that shit gets pirated throughout the entire world forever. I don't really see a dollar outside of me doing one scene for a fee. I could finally get just a paywall shit

and I don't know what OnlyFans is. I assume it's 10 to 20% something that they take off of it. I could finally just do this shit here. Yeah. It was beautiful. Like, we need to give the sex workers the same bravado and anger and respect that we do to artists that get robbed. Because they get robbed too.

I agree. They get bootlegged as well. Hell yeah. I've seen many girls on Onlyfans and I've never been on Onlyfans. Yeah. So, yeah, I understand. They get bootleg crazy. But you know what they say, streets got to eat.

Oh, well, excuse me. Bootleg is a thing. They picked the wrong community to fuck with. Them chicks is going to find. Yeah, because they're just, they're just. They're not showing tits and ass no more. I got to be honest, only fans. I'm going to be upset.

Oh, I, I, I, like, we won't be on your website. We want to see tits and ass forever. Whatever you need to do to make the sex work is happy. Do it. Because if not, I can promise you, I will not be on the only fans to see somebody playing the piano. So yeah.

Unless she's naked. Unless she's naked. Naked piano. Oh, all right. Well, let's, uh, we're probably close to wrapping up. Some, some quick, quick hit shit in here. I just found out what a LinkedIn influencer is. What is that?

It's basically the same, the same guy. What was that a college that had the guy in the parking lot screaming? What's you doing, man? What's you on your couch for? Come on. Come on. Come over here. Omega Evers.

University of Phoenix. No, no, that was. St. Peters College where I went. One of them colleges. No, that was, um. Not important. Anyways. Was it?

It was DeVry. University of Albany? I feel like it was DeVry. It was Bigghamton. You're not doing nothing. Get up off the couch. Call. I feel like that was DeVry.

Maybe it was. Right? I feel like we should all know that. I think that was DeVry. I was going to say cut this, but keep it. Us trying to figure out what college is the worst is hysterical. It is. Oh, no, it's Everest.

Everest College. Everest College. Everis College. DeVry is second, though. So they now have people on LinkedIn that are LinkedIn influencers that more or less just have like these resumes that we don't even know if you did anything like you just have crazy resumes it's like come on man you want to get a job look at my resume i'll put you in the right position yeah follow me i'll give you all the gigs right i've just had enough with so i thought

lincoln at least was going to keep us grounded to some degree this is where we can post a job there'll be no crazy fluff behind it i apply if i get the job i get it if i don't that's it now i got I deal with somebody screaming at me about me being a bum to get a job. Is LinkedIn and like Link Tree? Are those like cousins? Maybe. I mean, I'd have to figure out who their grandparents are, but. Yeah, I feel like they will be related.

I feel like LinkedIn and Link Tree are like cousins or something like that. I feel like it's all the same shit. It's just different variations of it. But please do not follow LinkedIn influencers. No, I wouldn't recommend that. I don't know why you would even do that in the first place, but okay. And I feel like if a job or a company needed a LinkedIn influencer to get me to apply and get the job, I shouldn't be at that company. No, absolutely.

That's just my how I think. No, I'm with you. I'm with you on that. Absolutely not. I don't need to be there. Like, come on man. You're a bum. You should be an assistant on at this game.

Come on man. You're depressed. Oh, you do a smoke all day. You ever thought about filing shit over here? Right. And I think everyone should leave me alone that I like that Rachel Dozel is. officially on OnlyFans. Is she the reason why there's no more sexually explicit content?

I don't know. We got to tie it in. I take back my like if she's not over there popping pussy. If she's popping pussy, I keep my like. But you can't pop the pussy right now. That's what they're saying. What if she's trying to do it before October 1st? Like she's trying to get her coins up real quick.

Oh, then I'm trying to go. Send me the link. Maybe she's a squirder. That's worth $15.99 a month. Listen, man. That's the ginger bid, man. I take my like back if she's not doing that, though. Just seeing that she was.

you know, approved. That's Roy. I'm all. That's Rory. I'm all. That's Rachel Dozzles, only fans. Oh, footpicks and squats. I can respect it.

Wait, that's what she's... Wait, she's posting footpicks and squats? I'm not going to pay for it. I like it, though. If she's doing like a $5 tier for footpicks, like, she might be all right. I mean, just looking at her, I don't know if I want to see her feet. What are her feet identified as? Are they feet?

It could be hands. It could be hands. They could be Asian hands Respect what she identifies that You're absolutely right I see where you're going with it You're so problematic Are you an early bird subscription

Because she says this content launch in September 1st So I don't know if you want to be an early bird subscriber To Rachel Dole's Pre-saved? Yeah you got to get the pre-order Does she have merch? No but look at her oh no See look at her bio

And inside look at my art, hair and fitness journey With exclusive weekly post as follows. Monday motivation. There will be gym, fitness, squats, and other stuff. Hey. I'm here for the hunter stuff. I'm here for the other stuff. All right. Mondays, I'm locked in. Yeah. The Wednesday work day, it's just hair and chair conversations with her clients and hair tutorials. You know, just keep in light on Wednesday. Humph day. Fridays is where she unwinds, though. This is where I bring the art. You bring the

wine and drinks. Watch me discuss my art. I know what happens when I bring wine. Listen, I got some shard-nate for Rachel. Yeah, let her create. And she's doing other random things like footpicks, post of her using stuff people buy from my Amazon wish list. Oh, what's their wish list of? Yeah, she knows. We don't know what she has on her wish list.

Oh, this is her wish list. She has candles. She has sneakers. She has shoes. She has more candles. She has vibrators. I didn't see. Where's the good stuff, Rachel?

He scrolled past two. Water bottles, MacBook, baby. Oh, baby. Okay. If you see some wipes, that means we see some wipes. that means we're getting somewhere. Baby wipes, okay, braid gel, okay, books.

That's for her hair journey. This is like some type of a streaming podcast microphone. No, I don't want to see that, Rachel. I mean, it could be some. Come on, Rachel, whizda, wisdom. You got to get to this shit. Rachel, whizda, the vibrator. They sent me a vibrator, but she doesn't want one?

What the fuck is going on it? This is crazy. They sent me a vibrator, but Rachel doesn't want one on her Amazon wish list. doing some ASMR, whatever that shit called. Yeah, but come on, Rachel, get a vibrator or something. With the vibrator, I'm saying. She can do some with the vibra.

No, no, no, no. Yeah. What's it called? ASMR? Yeah, ASMR. She get right in there with the vibrator. She doesn't have one of her wish list, though. She has, like, workout pain. How do we know that wasn't copped already?

Oh, she has one already? Okay, maybe. They hopped on it early with the pre-save. Maybe that falls under the other stuff, maybe. Yeah, you don't know where that shit is that. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, listen, go give Rachel a shot, you know, subscribe. if you want to be an early bird and you're going to see the content September 1st and she's

going to show you her feet and Monday's her hair journey going from white hair to black hair she'll give you a whole tutorial listen man it might be some shit on you never know Wednesdays she'll sit with the NWACP and talk about how she scam money from there yeah this actually this might be a quality only fans it might be this might have this might be what you know made them want to change their content and go another route rachel came in yeah yeah it was like let's let's clean the thing up a little bit it's LinkedIn influencers Only fans influence. Yeah, like let's clean this thing up a little bit.

Let's get to the real shit. Let's get to braiding hair and squatting. Yeah. So I'm here for it. And other stuff. Yeah, and other stuff. That's only on Mondays, though. Yeah.

Anytime I got a text. Yeah, I'll come over and we can hang out and just do other stuff. I knew what time I was. You know what other stuff is. Come on, man. We ain't got to say another. Yeah. Anyways, back to quick hit shit.

Summer Madness 11. It's in Houston this year. Murder Mook, Reed Dollars. Kishon versus Hollow. Calico versus Gich Gotti. Wait, wait, wait. Murder MOO. And read,

versus somebody or they're battling No, they're battling each other Okay, no, none of that double Okay, okay, okay, okay, shit, pause Uh-huh Uh, yeah, murder versus three dollars, uh, Kishan versus Halladdon, Calicover, skitigadi,

Surfer's John John, um, I'm sure there's probably some undercards after that, but that's what they announced. Summer Madness is, I've always loved, so, I'm excited. Yeah, I always like Summer Madness. I don't, this lineup is not really what I thought it would be,

though. What would you think, what happened? because I thought the same thing. Then I started to think of matchups, and I was like, that wouldn't happen regardless. Moog versus Red Dollars kind of threw me off. Well, I think this might be an old,

this is something that I think, you know, this is some history behind this one. Of course. Yeah, I think this is just one of those battles where these two have kind of going at it and had words. And, you know, they may have even battled before. I don't think, is this the first time they battle? To minus time.

Oh, no, MOOC. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm thinking, um, was it T-Rex that already battle read, I think? Probably. I don't know. I'm not sure. But move versus. Look at us.

Look at us knowing you are, uh, no, move versus. Your battle fans are so understanding. I'm sure you'll. Yeah. Move versus Reed is, uh, that's definitely, it's definitely a lot of history behind that. For sure. For sure. Yeah, I'm just saying they haven't in battle, but.

Yeah. I'd like to see that. Kishon, I haven't seen in a minute. Um, so yeah, I'm actually, I'm not mad at this. Surfer's John John, I think is going to be good too. Yeah, that'll be good. Those are two, uh, two of the better. performers in the battle

rap. Yeah, I'd like to see that. Cassidy versus Torrey Lanes, have you been following? You know what? I listened to Cassidy's I don't know why popped up on my YouTube algorithm, but Cassidy's response popped up

and I listened to it. It was almost like seven minutes, I think. He's done two back to back at this point. Oh, so I don't even know which one. I don't know if that was the first or the second one I listen to. They're both around seven minutes. Okay. So then yeah, I don't know it was yeah, this one. Plagiarism. That's the one. That's the most recent. There was one before that. Okay. I didn't hear the one before that. Um, I mean, it's entertaining, man. I mean.

Is it? I didn't say, I don't know. I didn't, I didn't hear Tories. I didn't hear, uh, Tori. All right, Tori didn't do anything except for freestyle, which I guess he took some bars and Cassidy or style. This is one of those things that. Yeah, I heard Cassidy say that. Tori, he said, Tori took some of his bars when he was at, was it Flex? Yeah. Does anyone care about Torrey Lanes versus Cassidy? I don't think so. I don't think people care about that.

Does Cassidy and Tori Lanes care about Cassidy and Tori Lanes? I don't think so. I don't think they're giving this. I only brought this up to say, like, you know, some things we should just like, we don't need to do. Yeah, it's just like, you could, all right, fam, like, we don't have to, we don't have to jump in the ring. Like, it's okay. It's all right. Yeah, you feel some type way about me.

Okay, fine. It's all good. If you want to throw it in a 16. that he took your style? So weird. Yeah, a seven minute, a seven minute disc record is a little aggressive. It's a little too much. I don't think anybody has the attention span to sit down and listen to seven minutes of a disc track.

That's just a little too aggressive these days. Did our conversation about Royce and Lupe get cut out of our lost episode? Yeah, it did. Yeah. Is it something we want to talk about? I mean, we can. Why not? I don't mind talking about it.

Because I feel like people killed us by not bringing it up. And we brought it up the week it happened in that lost episode. I just don't think the footage made it. Because a lot of that footage was, and this is honestly not an excuse. A lot of that footage was corrupted and the audio didn't work. So we tried to salvage what we had left. The Royce and Lupe shit was interesting to me. Royce is my guy.

I would have liked to see a family. response in on our Royce's fan. I would have liked to see a response as a hip-hop fan. Yeah. I'm not him, so I don't know what he took so personal in that record. And again, I'm not him. Let's make that clear. At Lupe, this was great to me.

I thought it was fire. It's Lupe. I thought it was really, really, really good. And I would have loved to see Royce come back. And Spar? Because I know Royce's caliber. Yeah. Well, that's, I mean.

In no way do I hear, because a lot of people know Lupe's an alien. But I've never thought Lupe's, Royce could never. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. I think that's the perfect opponent. Yeah, these are two of the aliens that, you know, this is what they do. This is what they're built for.

This is what, you know, they come from. They come from this type of competitive rap. But I think that somewhere along the line, it got, it went left. Yeah. Because even when I, you know, it was happening and I saw the, like, little remnants of the back and forth. I'm like, this is Royce and Lupe. They're cool. They fuck with each other.

They got a pod together. Yeah, I didn't. I enjoyed when they did it. Yeah, I didn't, I don't know where it went left. And then, you know, I know Royce was calling, you know, telling him the rap and, you know, and I think Lupe was saying, Royce had said some things like basically alluding to Lupe wasn't on his level and that he should never try to, like, throw stones at him. And of course, Lupe felt like, who the fuck are you? Like, what you mean I shouldn't throw stones at you?

Yeah. So I think that's where things kind of got a little chippy and, you know, went a little left. But, um, I would love to see. Royce, you know, entertain this and go back and forth or, you know, at least put something out because this is, this is what Royce does. This is what he's been doing most of his career. I know now he's in a different, you know, space as far as, you know, mentally and, you know, you're grown and you have kids. So certain things you don't want to entertain because certain energy you just don't want to attract and bring to yourself. I can understand that. But this is, to me, this is the sport. This is, this is part of hip hop. This is part of, especially when there's somebody that's a worthy of opponent. Of course. You know, if it wasn't, if it was somebody less than Lupe, I could totally understand like, I'm not responding to that, but this is Lupe. This is somebody that can really rap. Is it somebody that can talk slick? This is somebody that, you know, has success, put out some really good albums and records and has all of these, you know, accolades or whatever you want

to call it. But more importantly, he's somebody who's fit for lyrical battle. And so, I mean, I would love to see Royce go back and forth or, you know, respond to Lupe. at some point, you know, just because that's two of the aliens that we have in our culture. Yeah. And again, I didn't follow it like day to day, but I remember when Royce Lupe and Mickey Fax were all posting shit on IG of their previous music. Like, fan, this is what I do, which I loved. I thought that was great to show people your back catalog of how you could really rap. I thought it was a good way to, you know, get into the lyrical part of,

social media of Instagram like hey we could still do this type of thing and then it turned to this and then I got excited because I thought they was really going to battle and Mickey's shit was great Lupet's shit was great and I haven't spoken to Royce so I don't know what I haven't spoken to me that I was gonna call him and just kind of figure it out because I did see Royce call Lupe a bitch on I think it was on IG well Lupe called him one in the disc a couple times but no I mean before the before before before this even happened like they were on like Instagram live, it was like three or four of them. You know how they do the live now with multiple people.

And the conversation just went left. And Roy said, I think he might say, do something about it, bitch, or do, or who you think you're talking to, bitch? And I was like, whoa. Like, you know, when you call another grown man bitch, it's like, wait, what just happened? Like that's, so I didn't know leading up to that. I don't know what happened before that.

But I know at that point, that's when it went left. Because I think even after that Lupe, I think hung up on the live. I think he, like, just hung it up. And I think the next day or two days after that is when we got the Lupe record. Yeah, because I enjoyed Royce's, it was like seven to eight minutes of him rapping. And there was a few shots in there here and there, but it wasn't like what Lupe did. Yeah. I would just love for Royce.

Again, I don't know what he's really thinking and what happened. Yeah, I hope it's not super personal. Me neither. But, you know, I just would like to say that was like as a fan. As a fan. But what do I know? Yeah. I'm trying to think other quick case.

I can just mark all this. Aaliyah's coming. Saw the billboard. What do you mean? Explain. I was driving down Canal Street. It said there was a billboard right on Canal and 6th Avenue and it said, Aaliyah is coming.com.

And I went to it as a countdown. I assume that it's something to do with her streaming because you can't get Aaliyah on Apple, Spotify, title, anything, Amazon. So I'd imagine maybe they're starting. Okay. And Aaliyah streaming site where we go to Aaliyah.com and hear her whole catalog. Because I know her uncle or whoever's running her estate now has been very against her being sampled, her being on any type of streaming sites, which to some degree I get.

Of course, her fans would love to hear her music. And especially if you look at all the current R&B, it's a family tree of Aaliyah. But that makes sense because I think we're coming up on 20 years since her passion. Yeah. Well, I just, even that style of music and how she sings and that writing is Celia is what's right now. So it would be nice to have her on streaming just for all the newer fans to kind of tap into that catalog and go back to it. So they know the genius of Aaliyah. Yeah. So I don't know, again, I don't know if Aaliyah's coming is going to be strictly on that website or Aaliyah is coming to streaming. I'm just a person that was driving on

Canal Street and 6th Avenue. Well, it says Aaliyah is coming. to streaming, but her state isn't happy about it. Here's why her state isn't happy about it. Aaliyah fans have been clamoring for her catalog to be available for streaming for years. It appears their weight will soon be over. Nearly 20 years after her tragic death, the Princess of R&B's catalog will be available on streaming starting August 20th, Barry Hankerson, her uncle and founder of label Black Round Records announced in a Billboard Review published Thursday.

Alia's music will be rolling out in near chronological order, starting with the release of her platinum selling album one in a million according to a press release. Albums, Aaliyah and I Care for You will follow on September 10th and October 8th, respectively. So what took so long? The delay, according to Hankerson, stemmed from disagreements with Alia's estate, which he said had previously expressed a desire to take a catalog off the market. There was a conversation we had that Diane Harden, Alia's mother, didn't want the music out. and whatever my sister told me, I tried to do what she wanted me to do.

Hankerson said during the Billboard interview. As a parent, it goes on to say, as a parent, I would understand, scroll up a little bit. As a parent, the other way, pause.

As a parent, I would understand if she did not want the music out because who wants to hear the voice of your daughter who's gone. So when she said that to me, I said, okay, we're not putting it out. I don't know when,

but one day we will. born alia harden the singer died in the plane crash into mohamas in 2001 at the age of 22 this month marks the 20th anniversary of her death alia's estate responded to the deal in a statement through attorney paul la calce and said it was not made aware of the streaming release of the late singers catalog for almost 20 years black round has failed to account to the estate with any regularity in accordance with her recording contracts in addition the estate was not made to make aware of the impending release of the catalog until after the deal was complete and plans were in place. Scroll up a little bit. The state has demanded the terms of its new deal to distribute Alia's long embargoed music. The statement reads, and a separate statement released on Twitter, their state condemned actions to leach off Alia's life work. Well, you know, again, continue to rest in peace.

Alia, prayers to her family. Um, so it seems like, you know, Alia fans will be able to hear some of her music, stream it, whatever, you know. That's a little conflicting. Behind the passing coming up on 20 years. That's, it's conflicting because if the mother doesn't want to hear her daughter's voice, then that makes it a little different as far as my opinion on it. Yeah. But I initially thought, and there had been rumors about her uncle with money and things. of that nature and why it never made streaming because of that.

And I always thought it was a little selfish. I'm like, all right, man. I mean, you're only going to make so much money on streaming to begin with. If you really care about money and her legacy, you would just create a place where people could just buy Aaliyah's music digitally or stream it digitally. So if you're just fighting with the streaming service offer, mother's wishes, I get that.

But I also get, if it's not, money. Her fans might want to listen to that shit. Yeah. Like, it's a good way to keep that legacy going. I've never lost a child, so I'll never speak on that. But I don't know if there's anything left outside of prayers for Haiti. Prayers for everyone affected by the Taliban. We'll definitely put some links in the Bible. I read something that's saying that if you have Sky Miles, you can donate your Sky Miles

to some of the people in. Afghanistan. Oh, wow. Afghanistan. That's great. You know, so that might be something that people want to look into. They want to donate some miles to some people.

There's a site that's allowing people to do that. Would be nice if the airlines did that too. I mean, it's not like they can't afford it. Yeah. But, you know, so if you want to donate in any way possible to help people and, you know, going through that unfortunate circumstance in Afghanistan, please do so. Yeah. And we'll put some links.

in the description here for Haiti relief as well as what you can do with the Taliban What you can do with the Taliban? Like what you can do to help. What's the sake? I've been a long day. Not what you can do with the Taliban.

No. I'm not telling you to link with the tallies and get shit done. No. How you can help over in Afghanistan. They have a link for what you can do with the Taliban? Yeah, that's why it continues on.

Falk, it's running the internet. Oh, man. But yeah, I don't know if there's much I don't know if you have anything else. Listen, man, again, Perez is Dennis Schroeder. You know, turned down $84 million in living L.A.

And now he's making $6 million for living cold-ass Boston. I think he needs to fire his agent because I read earlier that Terry Roseir has agreed to a four-year $97 million contract with the Charlotte Hornets.

I like Charlotte A few days after Dennis Schroeder agreed to a $6 million contract for one year with the Boston Celtics after he turned down $84 million with the Lakers.

So yeah, President Schroeder, fire your agent. I'm sure you can get in touch with Rich Paul. You know, call Rich. He can try to help out as best as he can. But yeah, this is

another, the saga continues in the story of Dennis Schroeder turning down $84 million. Like when Master P was Ricky Williams agent? No. Well, yeah. Somewhere along those lines. Yeah, I don't, again, man, listen, Dennis Schroeder, like, maybe bet on yourself. Maybe this is what he's going with this year.

That's what Ricky did. But, yeah, this is, this is tough. I mean, I know seeing Dennis Schroeder, I mean, Terry Rosea signed for $97 million after, you know, you turned down 84 and then to take six from Boston is uh has to hurt it has to hurt a little bit um so yeah president and schroeder that's all i got in which sports go yankees the yankees have been uh on a tear yeah three in a row three in a row um or four in a row is it four i believe so yeah right on time as the playoffs is you know it's coming down to the wire so it was looking shaky for the yankees a few weeks ago. I ain't going to lie. I thought I was like, listen, if they don't make the playoffs

this year, it's going to be time to clean house a little bit. I like that payroll is too high not to make the playoffs. Well, that's always, come on, Steinbunner family. That's going to happen. Yeah, but you got to make the play. His son only knows one strategy. Right. What his father did, but I like the young team. I can't be mad at it. No, listen, a Yankee fan for life. Shout out to the Knicks again. Kimber Walker officially announced. Evan Fornier. Can we Can we get Kimball on here? I'm sure we can. You're the basketball guy.

Yeah, I'm sure we can get Kimball on here. I definitely want to get, I would love to get him in Julius on here, actually. I love to sit and talk with them and see what the energy is right now with that team. The Knicks are looking good, man. I'm not going to lie. The Knicks are looking really, really good. I'll try to join us now.

No, no, I'm still a Lakers fan forever. But the Knicks are looking good. And I think that, you know, it's important that the Knicks are a playoff team. They need to be a playoff team. Now they just need to get out of the first round and then anything could happen after that. So shout out to the Knicks. It should be an interesting season. Should be a great season for Knicks fans.

Long overdue. And the city is starting to feel like, you know, the old playoff Knicks now. Now we're starting to, you know, the barber shops is a little. I only experienced so much of that in my life. Yeah. You haven't experienced much of that. I've experienced enough of it. The barbers are buzzing a little more now.

You know, like the clippers are cutting off more in the shop. Everybody talking their shit. You know what I mean? Like you feel it more. Showing their jump shots. Yeah, you feel it more. You feel it like, okay, everybody feeling like the Knicks are back to a respectable level of basketball. So any new music coming out this weekend?

Probably. That we don't know about. I'm sure. I'll have to look. I was listening to Tink's album. She has a really good album. I think I told you that. Yeah, we talked to last episode.

Yeah, she has a really good album. Tink, Bree Steve's. I was listening to Bree Steve's album. She put out a good project. We spoke about Boldie's album. Yeah, some good, some good music out there. I don't know who's coming out this weekend, but we know who's not coming out this weekend,

but that's a whole other story. Exactly. No, it's quiet right now because everyone's terrified of when Kanye and Drake might drop. That's why there's not much to talk about right now. As far as music goes, everyone's terrified. We're going to sit and wait. That's so.

He's going to State Farm Theater. Now he's going to Chicago. Drake's sitting there posting every picture saying, hey, I'm just waiting. Yeah, I dare you. That's all it is. I dare you. It's double Dutch to send a,

over to Apple Music. Yeah, I did. So what shit is? Whatever. And if I'm an artist, I'm sitting and waiting until they're done too. I did see that Summer Walker was finished with her album. I did see that. She texted me?

I'm happy. No, she did not. Okay. But I am happy to see that she is done with her project. And definitely looking forward to that. But, yeah, man. No, definitely. Are you going to go to Toronto even if she's not even there?

No, she has to be there. She has to be performing. Yeah. So yeah, have a great week. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Peace. A win is a win.

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