Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Batman 1966 (w/ Paul F. Tompkins)

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

It’s time for Lauren and Nicole's next adventure: covering all things Batman. This season begins with very special guest Paul F. Tompkins (Threedom, Mr. Show, Bojack Horseman, Comedy Bang! ...Bang!) explaining the lore and cultural impact of 1966’s Batman starring Adam West. Get your shark repellent ready, folks. You’re going to need it.Next week's movie: Batman (1989). Follow Paul: Instagram, TwitterLike the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Original. Hey! Everyone! Flee for your lives! Emergency. Batman speaking. Warning all of you to brace yourselves for big news. The biggest. Tell them, Robin. Holy superlatives, Batman! It's really exciting. Soon, very soon, Batman and I will be batapulting right out of your TV sets and onto your theater screens.
Starting point is 00:00:29 That's right, Robin. Our first full-length motion picture feature in color opens a whole new world of thrills. The big screen gives us more space on land, sea, and in the air to challenge the most bataclysmic collection of super criminals ever. Their minimum objective must be the entire world. And here are the dastardly villains. The Catwoman. You're going to see the perfect crime when I get Batman in my claws. The Joker. Have you heard this one? It'll kill you, Batman. The Penguin.
Starting point is 00:01:22 There are two eggs this wily bird is going to scramble. Batman and Robin. The Riddler. Question. Who's going to make the feathers fly and knock Batman and Robin out of the sky? See the new weapons of the Bat Arsenal combat the forces of evil. The Batcopter. The exploding man-eating shark.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Holy sardine! The relentless Megaton Magnet. The unholy quartet's secret submarine. And that's just a sample of the exciting exploits ahead in our first feature motion picture. Holy memoranda, folks! Make a note not to miss it. Good thinking, Robin. okay wow we are screwed Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na- And we are covering Batman movies this season. We are back.
Starting point is 00:03:05 We've missed you all so, so much. We've missed this level of homework. Yes, it really is homework. Look at it. Next week, I got a little scared. Oh, what's next week? Just a bunch. Just a bunch.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Oh, no. But it's good. It's good. Okay. Oh, man, we're really doing it. Okay, this is the first episode of the sixth season. We are working our way through movies within the Batman universe, okay, with the help of fellow newcomers or super fans or sometimes even people who've contributed.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And guess what? It's going to be 14 episodes. That's a lot. It's so many. And it's going to be culminating in a very exciting live stream episode. Wow. We're going to cover as much as we can to get an overview of the franchise, but we're not going to be able to get to everything. There's a lot. There's too much. But today
Starting point is 00:03:49 we're going to be discussing one of the earliest Batman movies, the 1966 Batman starring Adam West. It is an hour and 44 minutes. Well, that's not even mentioned in our notes here. It's not. But I was so, I was like, 1966? An hour and we're out. Maybe an hour and 15, an hour and 44 minutes of Boom Boom Pow. I was actually pretty surprised by how much they were able to squeeze out of it. But we'll get into that for sure. Okay, so if you want to watch it, this Batman's available with a subscription to Max Hulu from Prime Video.
Starting point is 00:04:21 And you can watch it for a fee on Apple TV, Google Play, and Vudu. And obviously we're going to spoil the film from 1966. So if you want to not have it be spoiled, watch that now. But we are so excited for our guest today. Now you know him from his work on Mr. Show as the voice of Mr. Peanutbutter on BoJack Horseman, from his many appearances on Comedy Bang Bang,
Starting point is 00:04:42 and of course from his podcast with me, 3Dumb. It's Paula F. Tompkins. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Oh my God. I did it. You're here. We're so happy you're here. I'm thrilled to be here.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You're the best first guest there could ever be. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you very much. And we just can't wait to talk about Batman with you because I think our opinions are going to be all over the map. I would like to say first of all if you had a hard time with an hour and 44
Starting point is 00:05:07 minute Batman movie you're in for a rough season. Because they don't get any shorter. Which is rather upsetting and kind of jarring. It's like how much, we don't know anything I mean maybe I've seen a Batman over the course of my life.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I've seen one. I've seen one. It's the Robert Pattinson pattinson one i loved it and i said that one should be longer negative you got oh good so you found out mid recording that you're negative i'm glad we did that so good to test everyone i love it i love it um keeping us safe yeah i think i've seen one or two but when i was a kid like i don't really remember I listened to the oh the TV show? no the entire franchise oh okay yeah and I listened to the Batman Forever
Starting point is 00:05:49 soundtrack a lot so that one I'm really familiar with what's the biggest banger on there? Kiss by Rose oh of course yes yes
Starting point is 00:05:56 yeah baby if I could take a tour to the beach down the town and go oh
Starting point is 00:06:03 what does everybody do when they see you we all know the words. It's kissed by a rose on the grave. Isn't that weird? Is it? I thought it was grave. I know. And even that I wonder, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:06:16 That's at least mysterious. You went visiting. Oh, okay. But then what's the grave? And then the rose kisses you. And then you're like, get off me. And it's back on the grave you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You haven't seen the video? I have not. That's ringing a bell. There's a lot of images of Batman in the video. Wait. A lot of bat signals. Paul, speaking of a bat signal, what's your relationship to DC and or Batman? Well, I'll tell you, Nicole.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I go in and out of comic books and have since I was a kid. I remember watching the Batman TV show with Adam West in reruns and loving it when I was little. And then, you know, like I wouldn't I would not say I'm a huge fan of Batman. I've enjoyed Batman related things. Sure. I think it's-related things. Sure. I think it's gotten a little much, if you ask me. Uh-huh. But I've always known, I know the lore.
Starting point is 00:07:12 The lore has remained pretty much the same for a million years. What is the lore? Bruce Wayne, young Bruce Wayne, sees his parents get murdered. Yes, I knew that. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Right in front of murdered. Yes, I knew that. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Right in front of him. Yes. And it causes him, later,
Starting point is 00:07:28 to embark on a life of crime fighting. Yes, okay, but how- And he's super rich. Yes. Yes. And he funds the batting with the money from his company? His whole bat, his bat wings? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Like his whole vibe? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Okay. And his whole, like like his cave and stuff? He uses his billionaire money to fund the Batman activities. He never touches his Batman money. Okay, so he's just like Jay Leno.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Exactly. Whatever money he makes from being Batman, he doesn't touch that. I wish Jay Leno would wear a denim eye mask. Honestly, that would be very funny. Oh, my God. Denim cape. Denim boots. He's denim then.
Starting point is 00:08:12 That would be awesome. I'd like it. But, okay, where does Robin come from? Because they don't explain that in the movie. Robin comes from, I want to say Robin was there pretty early on. I don't know if he was there in the 30s, maybe in the 40s. That's how long ago we're going? Really?
Starting point is 00:08:32 The 30s? Yeah. So like Flappers and Batman? The comics were read by Flappers? Flappers were in the 20s. Okay, but they might still be around. They're just out of fashion. We're in the Great Depression. You can't afford to be a Flapper anymore. The 30s is the 20s. Okay, but they might still be around. They're just out of fashion. We're in the Great Depression. You can't afford to be a flapper anymore. Oh, the 30s is the Great Depression.
Starting point is 00:08:48 So the depressed are reading Batman. Who's reading? They're sad. They're drinking soup. They needed this more than ever because everything was so bad. Yes. They're like, I want to read about this freak. And that's how it is now. We need more Batman
Starting point is 00:09:03 because everything is so bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Robin in love with Batman. Robin not in love with Batman. Robin, legal ward of Batman because his parents. Oh, he's a child? He's a child. Oh, he seemed older.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Wait, that old man was a child? That old man was supposed to be a child. They say his young ward. In the comics, he's a kid. Young compared to him, But I mean, yeah. So this elusive billionaire takes in a kid and makes that kid fight crime with him. Yes. Because his parents were also murdered in front of Robbins.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yes. That's a lot. I came from a family of acrobats and they were killed in front of him. This seems like a lot. I'm not making this up. His parents were killed during the circus. What? I don't remember who killed them.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Why don't they show that? Yeah, show us that. But here's the thing. The movie that you watched, that we all watched, is a feature length version of the TV show version of Batman. Okay. So the TV show already existed. Then they were like, here's a movie based off of everything we explored. Yes. Okay. It was a big hit, the TV show. of Batman. So the TV show already existed, then they were like, here's a movie based off of everything
Starting point is 00:10:05 we explored. Yes. It was a big hit, the TV show. Oh no, I get I can see that. I remember that. No, I'm not trying to defend you. No, no, I'm sure you're right. I'm sure you're right. Yeah, I know. Let's quickly talk about our thoughts about the movie before we jump into it and we can just get a
Starting point is 00:10:24 sense of where we're all at. Yeah, okay. I hated it. Okay. I hated Robin being like, gee golly, honestly, I don't know. I can't remember the is and the he only said holy 8,000 times. Holy smokes and holy romance and I hated him.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Holy Polaris, Batman. I didn't like his full brief bottom. You thought he should have worn a cheeky brief. Yeah, if you're going to show me something, show me something. I don't like it. Get a little boogie. I didn't like Batman. I didn't like his mask.
Starting point is 00:10:55 His mask had eyebrows. That was upsetting. The bad guys were also upsetting. They kept going, hee hee hee hee. And I really hated that. I didn't like that. I liked Catwoman-ish. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Overall, pretty bad. Also, I was like, who wrote this script? At the end, they were like, success, success, we did it. And I was like, what? See, I'm going to be weird. I sort of liked it, but not really, but enough that I was intrigued. Wow. I was like, oh, it's kitschy.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It's like very campy. It felt like Brady Bunch and they all put on costumes and got silly. I watched a lot of old TV when I was a kid, so I felt like it made me feel like that. Like, oh, it's like a summer day and I'm putting on this rerun of Batman. There was something sort of comforting in a way about it to me. But I agree. I was surprised by how long it was because it felt like they kind of got through the story pretty quickly.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I was like, you don't need it to go on this long. But I also thought it was really cute to see how all the characters kind of started. And they're sort of basic. The costumes are so simple that it was almost like a crude drawing of what we know now. And that was kind of fun to me. Because they're trying to, in this era, they're trying to bring the comic book to life
Starting point is 00:12:08 and this is, the comic book was not as moody and grim in this era as it became. It was very, it was a comic book.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Well, it was so silly. The Joker was ridiculous. It was silly. There were a lot of jokes and I, but sometimes I was like, was that a joke
Starting point is 00:12:23 or am I reading? The jokes were tough. I didn't know if they were jokes always. Yeah. Or if it was just how I'm taking it now. Or if that was supposed to be a joke. Or if it seems. Because there was some sort of like.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Was the shark a joke? Like, right. Because it's so janky though. Yeah. Okay. And then all of the repellents, that was a joke? Absolutely, yeah. And people in the theaters probably laughed?
Starting point is 00:12:40 Probably. Okay. They probably did. Right. Because it was kind kind of funny everything was labeled bat whatever and so i was like that does seem funny but i didn't know if it was yeah yeah but i did like all the modes of transportation yeah like the penguin submarine thing that made me laugh real hard i liked it and i liked how weird all the characters were and i was sort of
Starting point is 00:13:01 just like grossed out by them because they were almost too real like seeing like the makeup like it was just sort of like so raw and like I felt like these are a bunch of insane people who are gathering around like they're crazy and they don't even like the Catwoman's like she's like she's barely doing anything but I'm like you're just a lady
Starting point is 00:13:19 I don't know can I say this about Catwoman and this is something because I don't think I'd ever seen this movie yeah I think I had just seen the TV show. Lee Merriweather, who plays the Catwoman in this, is probably the least effective Catwoman. Oh. The most being Eartha Kitt, who was in the series. Oh, she was in the show, and then this woman was in the movie? Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Why was that? And then another one that was in the show was Julie Newmar. Oh, yeah. Who was second best to Eartha Kitt. To Wong Fu, thanks for everything, Julie Newmar. Yes, I was just going to say that was in the show was Julie Newmar. Oh, yeah. Who was second best to the kid. To Wong Fu, thanks for everything, Julie Newmar. Yes, I was just going to say that. Precisely. All I know.
Starting point is 00:13:48 That's all I know. To Wong Fu, thanks for everything, Julie Newmar. And this is the first, I think the only instance of Catwoman making noises like she's in heat. Yeah. That does not happen, surprisingly It does not happen in any of the other Catwoman iterations. She was riding something through the sky going I was
Starting point is 00:14:12 scandalized. It was pretty wild. She does it again later. I was like, wow, that was not a fluke. She also wasn't sexy. No. But she's beautiful. Yes, but she was not sexy yeah yeah yeah yeah she was very pretty sexual yeah because i do want from that character you want her to be like i don't think i've ever
Starting point is 00:14:33 seen earth a kid as cat woman yeah but i've heard it yeah and yeah that's interesting because i was like something's wrong yeah i know it seemed a little chased i will say when she's revealed at the end and batman's like i know i laughed real hard i didn't know if that was those things i was curious about if they were jokes like how they're like no one knows who we are even our own families don't recognize us and they have like a tiny piece of cloth over one part of their face everything everything is a joke okay they don't none of this is supposed to be taken seriously. Okay. This is like such a time capsule of that era of like this was sophisticated comedy for adults. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:12 I actually like that. It's barely a kid's show if you can believe that. It is for drunk 60s people. That makes so much sense. Bad shark repellent. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Maybe I should have watched it with a different eye. But I mean, I totally, because it's old, I totally get the impulse to assume that they're being serious. Yeah. Like they think this is cool. Yeah. And I think what I, it's all tongue in cheek. It's all like everything's over the top on purpose. I felt like it was fun to see when they're like punching and it's like blam, plows, plow.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I was like, oh, that's really a thing. Like I didn't know that they actually put that in like on screen ever. I thought it was just a comic book thing. So I thought that was cute and funny. A lot of things like that where I was like, oh, this is where that originated or whatever. A little trivia. And I think this is correct, but I believe that the Blam Pals on the screen, the first time that was done was in A Hard Day's Night with the Beatles.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Oh. Which was around the same time. I've never seen that. I could be wrong. I don't know if that is. But I could be right. The Beatles made a movie. That's all I know.
Starting point is 00:16:19 They did. Yeah. They made, oh, no, sorry, not A Hard Day's Night, Help. They made A Hard Day's Night, which was their first movie. It's in black and white. They made, oh no, sorry, not Hard Day's Night, Help. They made Hard Day's Night, which was their first movie, it was in black and white, and then Help, which is in color, which is more of like a sort of funny adventure kind of thing that they go on.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And there's some fight scene where they have the comic book sound effects on the screen. And are they good actors? Yeah, are they? Yeah, they are. Wow. Interesting. I don't know much about the Beatles,
Starting point is 00:16:42 which I know is wild. Newcomer's Beatles? I mean, we really could, because there which I know is wild. Newcomers, Beatles? I mean, we really could. Because there was that one when I heard a Beatles song and Tina Turner had covered it. And I heard the Tina Turner version first. And I was like, why would they steal that from her? And they're like, what are you talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It's a cover. It's not stealing one. It's a classic Beatles song. And it was done by the Beatles. What song was it? Do you remember? Octopus. I think it's Come Together. Beatles. What song was it? Do you remember? Octopus. I think it's Come Together.
Starting point is 00:17:08 No. Oh, yeah. Maybe she could. I don't remember. Yeah. That's my beautiful song. That sounds familiar. When I did it?
Starting point is 00:17:15 I think it might be Come Together. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why it sounds familiar. Wait, Paul, did you like this movie? Yeah, we got near a pin. I really had fun, and I laughed out loud a couple times. You did?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Did you have a drink with it? No, I watched it this morning. I was sort of like, I should be stoned watching this, and then I was like, nope, I have to pay attention, and everyone will be mad if I'm stoned. That's what I thought. I was like, let me smoke something and watch this, but then I was like, Nicole, you gotta stay awake,
Starting point is 00:17:43 but then I fell asleep anyway. I did, so the last four minutes, I was dozing, But then I was like, Nicole, you got to stay awake. But then I fell asleep anyway. I did. So the last four minutes I was dozing. And then I kept going, huh? And then it was still four minutes. I go, what? And then I kept being like, they're not getting through this. I even looked.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I was like, I thought maybe, you know, in the movies now, it's actually 10 minutes shorter because of the credits. That's not the case here. They went up to the last minute. They're like, eh, we still have one more thing, and the thing was closing. The credits of this movie were like, you get it. It was a bunch of people.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And then at the end, it was like, the end of the living story. What did it say? The living end. I did like how the beginning said, I don't know what the living end means. I never know what that, that's just an old expression. Yeah, like you what the living end means. I never know what that, that's just an old expression. Yeah. Like you're the living end.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And I don't know if it's positive. So that's just a funny joke. Yeah. But the beginning I really liked when it was like, this is a movie for people who like funny, fun things. And it's just for people who like fun and like all those different, like, like this is just a good time. If you like good times, you'll like this.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I felt like it was like insulting me. Cause I was like, I do like good, fun things. But I don't think I'm going to like this. And I think you're trying to say something about me. But there wasn't that much content at this point in time. There just wasn't. Everyone who was alive in 1966 could have seen everything ever that was made. They're also all dead. Isn't that weird to think about?
Starting point is 00:19:00 It is. Anyone who was alive in 1966 is now dead. It's so weird. All of them. There's just no way they could live to now dead it's so weird all of them there's just no way they could live it's sad yeah it is sad yeah that's for bringing the mood down with your math yeah um well let's take a quick quick break and then we'll jump into what this movie was all about If you're wondering what a NordVPN is, I'll tell you. VPN stands for Virtual Private Network,
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Starting point is 00:20:32 was released on July 30th, 1966. Hold on a second. Nope. Because it was, I have to ask, Nicole, could you please give us your rendition of the Na-Na-Na theme song again? Yeah, let's hear that. Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na- Please give us your rendition of the Na Na Na theme song. Yeah, let's hear that. Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na that was actually pretty good i got one thank you you were going with the long version i don't know i don't know how long it is oh i guess it is shorter it's sort of like a royalty free version
Starting point is 00:21:17 what is it are you having here you do it you do it you do it Are you having any fun? You do it. Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na This was written by Lorenzo Semple Jr. And directed by Leslie H. Martinson. Where's Lorenzo now? Dead. You gotta wonder. Okay, maybe this is how my brain works, but I was watching the movie going, is everyone dead?
Starting point is 00:21:55 Adam West is dead. Adam West is dead. I was like, everyone's being so funny, and now they're dead. I think it's just like... Burt Ward, who played Robin, I believe is still alive. Oh, good. Lee Merriweather, for all I know, is still alive.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Burgess Meredith, of course, did. Frank Gorshin did. Cesar Romero did. It's just tough. You know how life works. Alfred the butler. I think it's safe to say. We're all having fun.
Starting point is 00:22:15 He's still alive? Yeah. He's one of the 50 years old. All this fun in the movie at the time. Oh, God. Burt Ward. There's so much I want to talk to you about this because I know I know
Starting point is 00:22:27 like a little bit of trivia about this show and about and I don't know what level of things you guys know or if you're going to cover it later. Well, we'll get, I think we're going to have trivia. Yeah, but we'll see what you know that we don't know. We don't know any of it, but I don't know anything. I just know
Starting point is 00:22:43 I really like Robert Pattinson's Batman. Well, you got many, many, many episodes until we get't know. Okay. We don't know any of it, but we're going to tell you some. I just know I really like Robert Pattinson's Batman. Well, you got many, many, many episodes until we get to that. That movie was three and a half hours long.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And it could have been longer. I was so happy to be there. I've never, I have no idea what that one is. There was parts I didn't get, but I had a nice time. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Hopefully I'll like that one. Okay, so here's the plot of this movie. When Batman, played by Adam West, and Robin, Burt Ward, get a tip that Commodore Schmidlapp, owner of the Big Ben distillery, is in danger aboard his yacht, they take the Batmobile to the Batcopter to launch a rescue mission. As Batman descends on the Bat Ladder to land on the yacht, it suddenly disappears beneath him. Now here's, I will say, here's something I really liked about this. This movie, they explained
Starting point is 00:23:29 everything very clearly. I was, I didn't understand why he couldn't get on the boat until they're like, it's a hologram! I was like, okay. Like I just was like, I, they literally would turn to each other and go, here's what's happening. And I went, thank you. Because I don't think I'm'm stupid yet I'm somehow missing some of this yeah yeah it was
Starting point is 00:23:49 nice it was a nice um because there's so many movies that expect you to like just follow yeah and understand things not this one this one tells you what's up the pacing is so bizarre to our taste today yeah that everything is so deliberate it's like so something happens batman sees oh this boat's a hologram yeah hey i can't get on there it's a hologram yeah we got to robin like he's listening to it okay and then he does something like everything happens in real time so there's no question of did did Robin hear and understand what he said? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 He's literally processing information. Got it. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So he rises out of the sea on the ladder with a shark attacking his leg. Now, yes, the shark was tied to the ladder.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It was clearly the fakest thing anyone's ever seen. It was so wild. But then that was funny. And I've still seen worse. Isn't that funny? Yeah, yeah. I've still seen worse than that. Well, it wasn't supposed to be real, was it? Because it's supposed to be like they loaded it with a... I didn't think it was
Starting point is 00:24:54 supposed to be a real shark. Yes, it was, for sure. Okay, that's a problem. I thought it was supposed to be a penguin set that up and it was like a fake shark. Penguin set it up, but it was a real shark. Okay, then that was really bad, right? But I mean, yes, exactly. And you're not supposed to be Penguin set that up and it was like a fake shark. Penguin set it up, but it was a real shark. Okay. Then that was really bad, right? But I mean, yes, exactly. And you're not supposed to think, as an audience member, you're not supposed to think it's
Starting point is 00:25:12 a real shark. You're supposed to think they're saying it's a real shark. Batman is being attacked by a real shark. So what they're doing is they're going, it's funny that it looks like that. A little bit. They're like, it's not real. Yeah. Well, we know we can't.
Starting point is 00:25:27 It's only 1966. A pillow. Yeah. So he rises out of the sea with a shark attacking his leg. Batman manages to escape the shark's jaws by calling up to Robin for some bat shark repellent. Dang, we're going blow by blow. Sweetie Pie, you're going to hear every word of the movie. Some people haven't seen the movie, so we need to tell them what happened.
Starting point is 00:25:49 We need to tell them. So this is the first eight minutes. So Batman and Robin head back to Commissioner Gordon, to Commissioner Gordon Neil Hamilton's office, where a press conference is being held discussing what has happened. They meet a Soviet journalist named Katerina Irina Tatiana, or Karen Skobo. I was impressed when she got through that. She was amazing. named Kitiana Irina Tatiana Karen Scoba. I was impressed
Starting point is 00:26:06 when she got through that. She was amazing. I actually thought her accent was so great. So, acronymed as Kitka played by Lee Merriweather who is actually
Starting point is 00:26:14 Catwoman in disguise who tries to get Batman to take off his mask for a picture. Commissioner Gordon interjects saying that they wouldn't be able to do their ace crime fighting
Starting point is 00:26:21 if they weren't in costume. Afterwards, Batman, Robin, Commissioner Gordon and Chief O'Hara figure out that the tip could have been set up by one of the four most powerful villains in Gotham City, the Joker, played by Cesar Romero, the Penguin, Burgess Meredith, the Riddler, Frank Gorshin, and Catwoman. That was funny.
Starting point is 00:26:36 When they're figuring out, they're like putting the riddle together, and it's so crazy how they got to the last one. It's impossible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, okay, maybe I did think that was funny. Right? I guess I also thought it was funny when she was like, come on, take off your mask. And he was like, no.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And she was like, but not for a picture? And he was like, no. And she was like, okay. And I was like, did you try? It was very, okay, it was funny. The four villains equip themselves with a dehydrator that can turn humans into dust this okay those humans turning into dust had no problem with the fact that they were about to be dust no they were standing there like they watch other people get made into dust they're like
Starting point is 00:27:15 like they don't even move well they also came back from dust being like we didn't know we were dust yeah they came back mid-con mid conversation. Even though they weren't talking when they were made of dust. They were talking when they were dust. They were in those tubes being like, can you believe we're in tubes? Okay, that can turn humans into dust. An invention of Schmidnap
Starting point is 00:27:39 who doesn't realize that he has been kidnapped and escaped in a pre-nuclear submarine made to resemble a penguin. I did laugh. They recruit three pirate-like henchmen. Batman and Robin learn that the yacht was actually a holographic projection and take the Batboat to a buoy.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Is that a buoy? Is that how I say that? That is concealing the projector, but find themselves trapped on the buoy by a magnet targeted by torpedoes. There was a lot happening. They use a radio detonator to destroy the two missiles and a porpoise
Starting point is 00:28:09 sacrifices itself to intercept the last one. And then that was crazy because I was like how did they know the porpoise? The whole thing was I didn't see the porpoise. I rewound it because I was like did I miss the porpoise? They just knew right okay yeah
Starting point is 00:28:26 i think they just they're like this is what happened so back at the docks batman discovers that the penguin using the alias pn gwynn acquired the submarine okay that was also funny yeah you love it but okay here's the thing while it was happening i was like what but then you sang it out loud i was like oh yeah that's funny yeah i mean out loud. I was like, oh, yeah, that's funny. Yeah. I mean, it's cute. It's like, it feels like the origins of a lot of things. And I think that's what's kind of like. Yeah, absolutely. Like a little bit you're going like, oh, yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:28:53 But it's like, but this was brand new at the time. Like this kind of joke. And like, that's cool. Yeah. The idea, I think it's, it got me almost every time they did it. Something that is so obvious that they're figuring out as if it's a real deduction. And then no one else saw it. P.N. Gwynn.
Starting point is 00:29:10 It was funny to me. He acquired the submarine from a Navy surplus admiral who has such vehicles at his disposal. Just then the Riddler shoots off a missile from the submarine, which reveals a set of riddles written in the sky. At Commissioner Gordon's office, Batman, Robin, and the Commissioner and Chief O'Hara solve the riddles and are able to officially confirm Catwoman's involvement with the Penguin, Joker, and Riddler. I thought it was the Riddler. Anyway, who are part of an organization known as the United Underworld and are plotting world domination. Maybe I did like this movie. I don United Underworld and are plotting world domination. Maybe I did like this movie.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I don't know. You're plotting world domination. The heroes then depart for the Batcave. I mean, when they figured out that it's all of them together. Yes. And then it's like, that almost feels like something you would figure out further into a movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Like, they figured that out really early. Very, very early. And then it's like, they know. That's kind of why it was weird. I think the pacing was weird. Because it it was like they figured out who they're against like so fast. Yeah. And then they just were dealing with them like the whole time.
Starting point is 00:30:10 This is almost like because of the TV show, it's almost like a sequel where they're assuming you know all these people. Oh, right. You know all these characters. So we're not going to get you up to speed on anything. You already know who they are. They're all working together. Let's get them in as quickly as possible.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And they look insane when they're all together. They really look crazy. And they're always like, they'll have their weird laughs. I just didn't like the laughing. I didn't like Joker. Why was his makeup over his mustache? Why didn't he shave his mustache? Why did they do that, Paul?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Because he would not shave his mustache. She's a Romero's like, yeah, I'll do it. I'm not going to shave my mustache. What? Really? Are you sure mustache. She's a Romero's like, yeah, I'll do it. I'm not going to shave my mustache. What? Really? Are you sure you won't do it? He's like, yeah, I don't care. And he's on the TV show? Yeah. And he had a mustache on the TV show? Under the makeup? Yeah. Did he ever, did you ever see him
Starting point is 00:30:55 without the makeup? No. So he could shave it, but he wants it in his life. He wants it in his life, yes. Did the villains? He's like, I'm not shaving my trademark mustache for Batman. Oh, he had a trademark mustache. Yeah, he had always had a mustache. I don't know him.
Starting point is 00:31:11 But it looks stupid under the makeup. It did look dumb. Yeah, of course. Yeah. But that's the show. And it's also like, yeah, it's a little bit like Slapdash, whatever. I have a question. In the TV show, did all of them work together
Starting point is 00:31:25 or was this like a movie thing where it was like super villains? No, in the TV, I don't think, in the TV show there's probably a couple team ups here and there, but usually it was like a villain of the week and it would be, it was an opportunity for guest stars,
Starting point is 00:31:37 you know, famous people of the day. Like who? Charlie Chaplin? Vincent Pr- Charlie Chaplin? Vincent Pr- I mean, he said it was a comedy. Wait, was he even alive then? No. We might have been alive.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Charlie Chaplin was alive. But he was done. He was not a guest star from Batman. It was more people who were sort of contemporary. Yeah, and were famous for speaking. You're right. He was a silent role. Vincent Price was on it.
Starting point is 00:32:18 I had a Vincent Price tape that I would watch all the time when I was a kid. Yeah, it was like a tape where he would come out at the beginning and introduce these scary little things yeah what is that i don't know why do i know it i just had it i don't even know you probably had it maybe i did it was just like he just would like i'm vincent price and here's the story of the blah blah blah and then it's like some little vignette or something i don't know like a little ghost story sort of thing? Sort of like Tales of the Crypt vibes. Huh. So you love him. So I love him. He's a huge figure for my childhood. He played Egghead on
Starting point is 00:32:52 Batman. What? And he had a big giant bald head. Is that someone we're going to come see again? Egghead? Are we going to see Egghead in the movies? I don't know. No. Okay. You will not be seeing Egghead. It's a character nobody wants to see again. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Did he fight with eggs? He did a lot of egg puns, of course. Did he do a lot of rotten egg smoke? I think he did do that. My memories of Egghead are not very... I'll be looking that up later. Yeah. So, meanwhile, the villains devise a plan to kill batman they decide to have catwoman disguised as
Starting point is 00:33:27 miss kitka lure a millionaire philanthropist back to her apartment kidnap them both and use them as bait for batman to come to the rescue the mill now this was a silly little situation now the millionaire philanthropist they chose is of course none none other than bruce wayne head of the wayne foundation now i was watching this going uh-huh she, I was watching this going, she knows that's him. She's going, she knows that's Batman. She's tricking him. It's layers, it's layers. And then they really didn't know that was him.
Starting point is 00:33:53 No, and he was so horny for her. Oh, yeah. The way the tension would build between them, I thought, just fuck already. Yeah, I was like, why don't they just do it? And at one point, he was like breathing all heavy. They just got really close a lot, and they'd was like, why don't they just do it? And at one point he was like breathing all heavy. They just got really close a lot and they'd be like, It was very wild to me.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Anyway, Miss Kita visits Bruce Wayne at Wayne Manor, where she shows him riddles that are left at her penthouse, which is owned by the Wayne Foundation, whom the Riddler hates. Batman heads to the Batcave to solve the riddles with Robin, which seemingly reveal a threat on Miss Kita's life, who they think will slip on a banana peel and die. Batman plans to go on a date with Miss Kita in that evening, but asks Alfred, Alan Napier, and Robin to keep a close watch from the Batmobile using the micro TV bat scanner just in case Riddler tries to make good on his threat.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Now, I liked that part where they were watching the date. Yeah. I thought it was like, that's fun. I always want to watch a friend's date. Like Alfred's mask that he wore. Yeah, that was under his glasses. Under his glasses, yes. And then they're watching and like the two are about to hook up and they're like, I guess
Starting point is 00:35:02 we shouldn't watch this, Alfred. And he's like okay if you say so that's where you draw the line please let me watch I'm so old I'm the oldest man please wait and Alfred
Starting point is 00:35:16 I would love to see this woman fuck my boss Alfred's like is like Batman's keeper he's his butler right yes in the comics he essentially takes care of him after he was you know family employee yes he looks after him after the parents
Starting point is 00:35:34 die oh but who's the old man is it the commissioner who's in their house in the Batman house before and like they he doesn't know that they're Batman and Robin and they jump into the like I think that was the commissioner yeah so he just came over he didn't that wasn't his yes okay yes yes yes um okay so he just came over but like it's one thing we haven't mentioned is that they have these little like they so they're in their mansion batman's mansion and then they like have like a
Starting point is 00:35:58 door that reveals their like poles that they jump down to go become batman and robin and when they get down there they're in the costumes which is kind of funny I guess yeah outfits are so weird they're so weird it's so it's so revealing especially Robin like he's like the green green underpants
Starting point is 00:36:18 it's a lot and I he did seem like a grown man to me I didn't get that he was not a child he was not his ward I think in that he was not his ward. There's no way he was his ward. I know how hard we've never said. I think because he clearly is a grown man,
Starting point is 00:36:37 I think they leave it very hazy as to how old he's supposed to be. So maybe late teens you could buy. They're hoping. Was he on the series? Oh, yeah. So he maybe just aged a little bit. A little bit. I mean, it's the same year.
Starting point is 00:36:53 No, no, no, no. Oh, he was still a grown man on the series. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. This might have even been concurrent with the series, this movie. I'm not sure. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Okay. It was? Yeah, it's not like many years later, like, let's reunite and do this. Yeah. And he's like, no, I'm old, but I'll pretend I'm little or whatever. But I can say that having not seen any of this Batman since I was a child, Robin truly sucks.
Starting point is 00:37:15 He's bad. Oh, my God. Throwing. The performance is annoying. Yeah. And he's not helping anything. No. He says holy blank as basically his only line the entire time i was
Starting point is 00:37:25 kind of like say other stuff that's right yeah yeah i wanted to know his opinion on his his full briefs like i just don't understand there was so much happening in the the junk region on characters in these in this film he had nude tight tights and Batman had gray tights. I was like, why does Batman get to cover up a little bit more than Robin? Why do I have to look at Robin? That's what the costumes look like in the comics. It's pretty faithful. Really? Robin's legs
Starting point is 00:37:55 are just out like that? But he's also a little boy in the thing. We've got to cover up the little boy. That's definitely worse. He's an acrobat. Maybe in the comics he's also wearing nude hose.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I think he has nude hose on because you don't want to have an accident where your pee pee shows. No, you wouldn't want that while fighting crime. So in a plot to lure
Starting point is 00:38:16 the criminals out of hiding, Robin asks Chief O'Hara to flash the bat signal to make it seem like he and Batman are racing to police headquarters and are out of the way. Leaving Miss Kitka unsupervised and open to attack.
Starting point is 00:38:28 But the plan doesn't seem to work. In a carriage ride back to Miskita's apartment, she takes out a listening device shaped like a cat figurine with an antenna. I will say the commitment to the character's name and stuff matching. All the stuff they had
Starting point is 00:38:44 and even when they're all looking through the periscope and they each have like a little label that matches whose side it is yeah and she was pushing
Starting point is 00:38:50 this little plastic cat that's like the cheapest toy anyone's ever had I'm like it's not connected to anything like that's not
Starting point is 00:38:56 doing anything but I liked it um a cat like shape a cat no shaped like a cat figurine with an antenna
Starting point is 00:39:03 so the villains know where they're headed. Once Bruce and Mesquita arrive at her place, the two start getting a little... This is where they get hot and heavy. And just heavy breathing so much. It was really upsetting. Just so much like almost about to kiss. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And I'm like, just do it. Just do it. An attempt to give the two privacy turns off the bat scanner that's monitoring their every move with no one monitoring the lovebirds the penguin joker riddler and their henchmen kidnap bruce and miss kita when robin switches the scanner back on he finds oh no it's too late to save them so bruce wakes up in the villain's lair wondering what they've done with miss kitka who of course has now changed back into catwoman and the villains but meanwhile wonder why batman hasn't come to save bruce and miss kitka and are frustrated he
Starting point is 00:39:44 hasn't fallen into their trap. So Bruce manages to fight off the villains and he escapes. Bruce reunites with Robin, changes back into Batman, and together they return to the villain's lair. Meanwhile, the villains test out the Dehydrator, turning five men into colorful dust. Yeah, so that was just a test? And all the men were blue dust,
Starting point is 00:40:01 whereas some other men turned into different colors. These guys were all the same. The five were the same color dust? They were were blue dust, whereas some other men turned into different colors. These guys were all the same. The five, they were the same color dust? They were all blue dust. Yeah. I didn't understand where they got them. And I also didn't understand the pipe. Were they the guys?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah. There's always henchmen around. They're henchmen. Oh, they were henchmen who got dusted? And the pirate was just flair. That was just flair because they were on a boat. Because they were on a submarine. But so when they were tricking that person.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And penguins are vaguely nautical. There was that point in the beginning where they're like tricking a man into thinking he's captaining the ship. But it's just a fake screen. And they're, do you know what I'm talking about? They had a screen that looked like water. Like the ocean rising and falling. And there's a guy like pushing a bike to like make it go up and down, flapping some sounds or something.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Did I watch something else that was in there? That's Commodore Schmidlap. Okay, okay. You don't know what I'm talking about. Honestly, that might have been when I fell asleep. It was right at the beginning. They put him into a fake area and made it seem like the water was going up and down,
Starting point is 00:41:07 but he's no longer on the ship or something. And I didn't know if the pirate came from his ship and they were just like, you work for us now. I didn't understand where the pirate came from. The pirate was in the Penguin's Employ, I believe. Okay. Yeah. This is the pirate we see later in the striped shirt?
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah, but he gets killed or something. Yeah, he's got a little earring. It's kind of cute. Yeah. Okay. Once in the lair, Batman finds a but he gets like killed or something. Yeah, he's got a little earring. It's kind of cute. Yeah. Okay. Once in the lair, Batman finds a large bomb.
Starting point is 00:41:28 This was a cute part. He isn't able to safely detonate it anywhere. First he runs into a marching band. He's got this big bomb that has like a little spark on it. Then a group of nuns.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Then a woman with a baby straw. That made me laugh because I was like, that's not heightening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all the same, really. Or the opposite, really.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Well, it's like group, group, two people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ends up. It's all the same, really. Or the opposite, really. Group, two people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ends up throwing it into the air and uses some metal pipes to shield himself from the explosion. Come on. When he saw the ducks, that got a big laugh out of me. When he runs through the bar and then Robin's like, he calls them like drunks. He's like, deplorable people or something.
Starting point is 00:42:03 He says something like, you didn't want to blow up those horrible drunks or something. He goes, well, they're still people. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, that's silly. That was funny. So then Batman and Robin are confronted by the Penguin, who, by the way, I mean, Penguin, I know the Penguin character gets, when he's Danny DeVito, he's like really disgusting.
Starting point is 00:42:22 This really grossed me out, actually. The way that he looked bothered me it really bothered me his nose and his teeth and just the way he was giggling all the time they were all constantly giggling those are his own teeth
Starting point is 00:42:38 yeah but the nose is fake I loved his teeth I was surprised at how good the nose looked it was good for the time. I thought I was going to clearly see a line where it was glued on. It was well done. He just looked weird to me.
Starting point is 00:42:53 They all look so weird. I didn't like looking at any of the villains. I don't know if you have this in full, and I feel like you do because of our experience making this podcast. Do you just picture yourself having sex with people and then you're like, ew. Penguin, I was sort of like, ew. i was like i don't want to have sex with me the joker i was like i think i could the joker i okay i literally was thinking about all
Starting point is 00:43:14 of them you guys both have this condition where no matter what you're watching you're like if there's something it started with sort of like weird things in Star Wars yeah yeah we had a lot of sexual attractions to really weird things where I was like ooh that little alien guy like we both wanted
Starting point is 00:43:31 to have sex with these huge aliens oh yeah they were nice look they were nuts this aspect of it I understand
Starting point is 00:43:40 like having a weird attraction to something but you're making it sound like now everything you look at you are cursed. Do you have to do this?
Starting point is 00:43:48 It's sort of like I'm watching going like oh they're so weird and I go get them off of me. Yeah, I don't want that on top of me. Or you're like I would ride that.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like I think I could have sex with Batman. Yeah. Oh yeah. But he would have to take the mask off. He's hot. He could keep the eye thing on. It's just I hated those eyebrows. I didn't like that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But he would have to take the mask off. He's hot. He could keep the eye thing on. It's just I hated those eyebrows. I didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah. I agree. I agree. Because his eyes also were getting lost back there sometimes. It wasn't lined up perfectly. That was a little annoying. You can't win, though, because it's either you have this mask where it's like your face is clearly so far back from the mask or you have that dumb makeup around your eyes yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:44:26 and robin i simply couldn't he's he's an attractive billionaire and i think that works for me um so then i feel like jimmy glick um then batman and robin are confronted by the penguin poorly disguised as commodore schmidlap who talks the heroes into taking him into the Batcave. I didn't think his disguise was that bad. Yeah. If you didn't know who Schmidlapp was, sure, he looks like him. There he rehydrates the five dehydrated henchmen.
Starting point is 00:44:54 However, to do this, he uses water loaded with atomic waste from the Batcave's atomic pile, which makes the henchmen's biological structure highly unstable. And just touching them makes them disappear. Which is wild. Yes. And the penguin then hijacks the Batmobile and takes it to meet up with the other villains at the United World Organization, hoping to dehydrate the United World Security Council
Starting point is 00:45:12 members and hold the entire world for ransom. And they won a billion dollars from every country. I was like, good fucking luck. Yeah, that's too much money. It was a lot. You think you're going to get a billion from every country? Not every country has a billion to give. For ambassadors, essentially.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Are you really going to get it? Am I really going to get it? Are they? Are they going to get it, Paul? It's a huge ask. It's a lot of money. It is a huge ask. It is a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:45:38 But they're insane. Okay. You know what I mean? You don't know what they're capable of. These people are out of their mind. They're mad yes they're absolutely mad i also want to know what like goes through joker's mind when he's putting the makeup on that's the part you know because you're like you're putting this on every day yeah you're crazy like i know yeah no someone's doing it but like the character like why do you put it on like that now the thing is
Starting point is 00:46:05 is that we don't know depending on the iteration of the Joker if it's makeup that he's putting on his face or if that's just his face wait what well the mustache really doesn't help that mustache is not helping
Starting point is 00:46:21 there's iterations where we just think a man has a clown face? Well, like Heath Ledger, right? Is that the one where it's kind of like that's just what he looks like? No. Heath Ledger put makeup on, but he had scars. Oh, the scars. To give him the Joker's rick just like smile.
Starting point is 00:46:35 But then, like the Jack Nicholson Joker, which I think is true to the comics. Well, this is like, the comics have been going on for so fucking long that eventually they're like, the Joker doesn't put on makeup. He fell into a vat of chemicals and that, you know, changed his appearance. Died his hair green. Yes. Okay. So he just is a freak who looks that way as opposed to a guy who's like. Yeah, every day.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah. Doing a little theater makeup. So when did they arrive at the VAT decision I think that might have happened in the 50s maybe or something oh wow
Starting point is 00:47:10 yeah yeah yeah in the comics yeah okay okay we're going really far back Batman and Robin
Starting point is 00:47:15 use the bat cycle and the bat cycle go-kart I okay I'll tell you I love this and I love when
Starting point is 00:47:21 it's separated yeah to go to the bat copter I really did love all of the bat things they had a lot more mobiles than I expected them to have so many boats, little bat cycles
Starting point is 00:47:32 they were cool too I really like that bat boat, that's a cool boat and that cave that cave is in LA have you been there? no, the bat cave I used to live over there. Maybe you've been in there.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Maybe. That's where I lived. Uh-oh, you're Batman? On the first episode, we're reviewing this? From the submarine, the Riddler fires one of his skywriting riddle rockets, which hits the Batcopter and crashes it. Batman and Robin survive, of course, thanks to the Batcopter's soft landing, solve the Riddler's riddle,
Starting point is 00:48:07 and run to the United World's building, but they arrive too late. The Security Council has already been dehydrated, which is, I just really love that they say dehydrated and not like dusted. It's just liquid that's gone and they look like that now. The villains take the vials of dust, gas the building's guards, and escape in the submarine. I liked the building.
Starting point is 00:48:30 This is where everybody's different colored dust because they're from all over the world. So all the Americans are blue. Yep. Okay. So in the Batboat, Robin uses the Bat Radio to divert the missiles being fired at them from the submarine and gets the submarine to come to the surface by firing powerful bat charges. Batman and Robin then beat up the pirates and the
Starting point is 00:48:51 villains and throw them overboard, but Batman is heartbroken to discover that Catwoman is actually Miss Kitka. I will say, they took too long on that moment. And then he was like, no, Robin, don't say anything. And Robin's like, mm, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Batman calls the Coast Guard to come up and collect the villains adrift on the side of the submarine. But before that can happen, the captive Commodore Schmidlap comes in, trips and breaks the vials of dust. This was wild. Because I was like, what did he trip on? He mixed them all together. I know he just goes. It's insane. And now they're all one big pile of dust. Back in the Batcave,
Starting point is 00:49:29 Batman and Robin use a high-tech filter to try to separate the mingled dust. What a weird problem to have. It's like we gotta separate these human beings. You already dealt with the actual villains, and now you're separating dust to get these people back? How's that his job?
Starting point is 00:49:44 Yeah. I don't know, but he said if he couldn't do it it couldn't be done nobody else could robin suggests that they leave the dust from various members of different races mixed together seemingly to promote world peace which is funny because it's like it's their bodies so it's like i don't think you're gonna mix their ethnicities what if you get four arms yeah you know it's like, I don't think you're going to mix their ethnicities. What if you get four arms? Yeah. You know? It's not going to work that way. No. Batman says it's not. It's not up to mortals to make them change the laws of nature.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Back at the United Worlds organization, Batman and Robin rehydrate the Security Council. Also, he's using, like, toxins? Like, water and toxins? Yeah, these people are not going to be the same when they get back to their bodies. They're not going to feel right. They're going to be ill. They're going to to their bodies. They're not going to feel right. They're going to be ill. They're going to be real sick. They don't know where they live.
Starting point is 00:50:29 They don't know. Their brains are going to work right. Who am I? Yeah. So they get rehydrated. People all over the world cheer and celebrate in like the strangest English. They're just like, success, success. We did it.
Starting point is 00:50:42 However, they discover that all the security council members speak different languages than they used to batman says uh that this mixing of minds may be the single greatest service ever performed for humanity with the security council argues amongst itself batman which took a long very long time that's where i was like i'm i'm doing my best yeah yeah i think there was like the rule of fives back then. Yeah. Which is like, we've shown three people speaking languages they don't speak. Better do two more.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And it should take five minutes and feel like five hours. And then instead of Batman and Robin leaving through a door, they open, you watch them open a window. That's right. Throw something down. And then climb down the side of the building. And I was like, for what? It's really unnecessary because they also like ran to their, to get there where it's like, you go on the street.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah. You just walk down the elevator. Just go down the elevator. What's going on? They wanted to leave unobtrusively. This is them Irish goodbying. They're like, we don't want anyone to deal with us. We don't want anyone to say thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:44 We gotta go. It was so hard to rehydrate all these people. they're like, just, we don't want anyone to deal with us. We don't want anyone to say thank you. We gotta go. It was so hard to rehydrate all these people. So the title card ends with a question mark suggesting there's more story to be told, which I'm sure there is. And that was the movie. That was it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:51:59 We did it. We did. And it was long. It was very long. One hour and 44 minutes. Look, it was cute. I feel like ultimately... That to me, I'm sorry, but that to me is like a movie length.
Starting point is 00:52:11 That's not that crazy. But for what it is... Yeah, it's a movie now or all fucking five hours long. You're right. That's true. You're absolutely right. No, we're not gonna complain more.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Don't worry. Here's the thing. I can watch a long movie as long as it's like Fast and the Furious and I'm entertained. Here's the thing. I can watch a long movie as long as it's like Fast and the Furious and I'm entertained every moment of the way. See, I missed that
Starting point is 00:52:30 whole season of our podcast doing that so I didn't watch those movies except for one and I don't think I could have handled it.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I mean, that's like that's a different It is a little intense. I will say Fast X has one of the best performances I've ever seen by Jason Momoa. Wow. He wears gauchos and I've never He's a beautiful intense. I will say Fast X has one of the best performances I've ever seen by Jason Momoa. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:46 He wears gauchos and I've never found someone hotter. Oh my God. So we have a new segment. No way. No way. We're going to read some trivia from the film. Okay. Are you ready?
Starting point is 00:52:59 Can you tell me what you know versus what we know? Okay. Let's do one trivia from you first. Yeah. All right. I think I was going to lead with that he put the makeup on over his mustache. Okay, well, we knew that. Okay, that is a part of our trivia.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Caesar. Yes, yes, yes. Caesar. How do I say it? Caesar. But it was spelled phonetically for me as Caesar. Yes, that's why I asked. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Is it Caesar? I've always heard it Caesar Romero. Well, so anyone who thought I was weird heard him say his own name don't blame me I looked on YouTube I couldn't really find anyone introducing him I'm sure you did it great I do love that he's like I'll do it but I'm not changing my life he's like my wife
Starting point is 00:53:40 likes the mustache if I shave this my kids won't recognize me oh my god my dad one time shaved his mustache and it was shocking we all were like Rafe likes the mustache. If I shave this, my kids won't recognize me. Oh my God. My dad one time shaved his mustache and it was shocking. We all were like, never again. It was like, so crazy. Do you ever shave yours? Have I seen you without a mustache?
Starting point is 00:53:55 I don't think I've ever seen you without a mustache. I'm no Cesar Romero, so I can't get away with not shaving it if I get a job. But I have, I've had to shave it a couple times for jobs. Do you have pictures? But not often. Do you have pictures? But not often. Oh, yeah. Do you feel weird? Because I remember your old stand-up, though, you didn't have a mustache.
Starting point is 00:54:10 No. Oh, yeah. I didn't have a mustache until 2009 was when I grew this mustache. Oh, okay. And did that feel like a big change at the time? You were like, now I'm doing this. It did. But like when I saw it, because I had a beard and I shaved away the beard and I left the mustache.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And then it just looked different to me all of a sudden. I was like, this makes sense on my face. It's kind of crazy how men can just do that, though, and you just have a whole different look. Our friend Don Finnelli had a mustache for a minute, and it looked awesome. I was like, oh, I see how it starts. Do you know what I mean? Where it's like, now you're the dad with the mustache. I'm like, cool.
Starting point is 00:54:40 It looks awesome. I had a friend who had a full beard, went to an audition. They said, can you shave? Came back shaved. And they said, oh, no. Well, yeah, because sometimes they don't like what's under there. No. I've witnessed that where people are then like, but the beard's kind of doing a lot.
Starting point is 00:54:54 The beard is doing all the heavy lifting. Yeah. It makes the face what it is. And it made this person's face. It was pretty wild. Permanent beard people should have just a picture of themselves. Yeah. To be like, this is what I, this is what you must have. No, but you're totally right because it's like if you don't waste my time i have to
Starting point is 00:55:08 grow this beard back now uh-huh you know like come on i don't have time to grow a full beard back yeah it's gonna take months i mean how long does it take to grow a big bushy beard i don't even know probably a month longer two right for a how long for a big beard a big bushy beard oh that was like a year yeah yeah yeah that's like a full head of hair coming out of your chin yeah to actually grow it
Starting point is 00:55:30 to where it's long yeah it's like yeah that takes a long time wow that's a long time I get little whiskers and they come overnight
Starting point is 00:55:37 yeah same I'm always like huh what if you let them go I would never oh it would be so upsetting no no no have you ever had it though where you think you've taken care of the situation that you're in the sun and you're like Oh, I could never. Oh, it would be so upsetting. No, no, no. Have you ever had it, though, where you think you've taken care of the situation,
Starting point is 00:55:50 and you're in the sun, and you're like, oh, okay. There's one. Or you, like, touch your face, and you're like, oh, no. I really hope. I'm going to need to go home now. I need to go. Okay, so here's a little bit of trivia. So Batman premiered at the Paramount Theater in Austin, Texas. The Batboat, featured in the film, was created by Austin-based company
Starting point is 00:56:06 Glastron. Their payment was having the film premiere in their hometown. Seems like a bad deal. That's not a good payment. That's a bad deal. You get to see it here first. But if you're the producers of the movie, you're like, okay, no problem. I'm not paying my mortgage,
Starting point is 00:56:22 but I guess at the time my mortgage was $5. So it's kind of okay. That's right. Yeah. Ooh, this is interesting. Filming of the movie began before Lee Merriweather was cast, so Catwoman does not appear with the other villains in the first scene aboard the Penguin submarine. Oh. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Now, did you feel during the film there were many times where she'd go, that's perfect, and I thought, he's going to figure it out. She's saying. I thought so too she was Kita like Kitty Kita I thought he would be like perfect
Starting point is 00:56:50 perfect who's that remind me of he was like he was like horned up by her I know and then like when they
Starting point is 00:56:56 he's like let's rub our backs together and get these ropes off or whatever when they're all both that was wild I was like yeah rub your backs together
Starting point is 00:57:01 that'll do it okay so this film wait I need to know. So Eartha Kitt was in the TV show. Yeah, so why wasn't she in the movie? Why didn't Eartha, and why wasn't she cast? Maybe she was doing another film. Maybe she was, and that's why.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Do you know the scoop? I do not know the scoop. Let's find out. They could not hold onto a cat woman on that show. Yeah, I guess not. I think she was probably in later seasons, because I think the first season was that other cast. Julie Newmar?
Starting point is 00:57:24 Oh, thanks for everything. And she had another movie booked. Oh, interesting. And then Leigh Merriweather was never invited back? I don't believe so. Wow, that must hurt. One undone. But she was so pretty.
Starting point is 00:57:38 She was so pretty. So this film was released between seasons one and two of the Batman TV series. That's pretty wild. They really jumped right into that. A follow-up film was released between seasons one and two of the Batman TV series. That's pretty wild. They really jumped right into that. A follow-up film was at one point considered between seasons two and three, which would have been used to introduce Barbara Gordon slash Batgirl and make use of the Batplane. However, due to waning interest in the series during season two, which resulted in budget cuts, plans for a second film were scrapped. That's like nowadays.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Yeah. They're really over it really fast. I felt like TV shows ran longer then. I honestly thought this show ran longer than that, for sure. That feels like them just going, eh, let's move on. How long did it run? I think the show ran longer, but the movie, they didn't make more movies.
Starting point is 00:58:18 But there was waning interest. They didn't have enough interest. Like, we still watch the show, but we're not fucking leaving our homes to watch longer shows. I we're not fucking leaving our homes to watch longer shows. I'm going to Austin, Texas to watch a movie. You can assume most of America was watching it because there's like two channels.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Exactly. Okay. Awards and reception. This Batman earned $1.7 million in the North American box office sales, which is just over its $1.7 million in the North American box office sales, which is just over its $1.4 million budget, which would be about
Starting point is 00:58:50 $13 million now. Wow. William, let's see if I get this. Dozier. Dozier? Oh. D-O-Z-I-E-R? Yes, but this is how it's spelled phonetically. Dozier. Oh, Dozier. Dozier.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I'm Dozier. Wow, everyone got it but me. Creator of the Batman TV series said in a 1968 interview that the reason for the low box office numbers was that they were trying to sell something that was already free to the public at home. Wow. Meaning the Batman TV series that was out there airing at the same time.
Starting point is 00:59:23 That's so interesting. But it makes sense. Yeah, like streaming is easier than going to the theater. It's kind of the same thing. This is wild. And then they fixed it and then went back to this. It is funny in that landscape to propose that because there are only three channels, right? The show's on TV and they're like, hey, we made a movie.
Starting point is 00:59:44 No one asked us to do this and we want you to go pay money to go see it in the theater. I'm sure at the time people were like are you insane? You're right because it's also just like a basic story. It's cute but if the TV show is just like that then it's not like
Starting point is 00:59:59 the production value in the movie is way above the TV show. No it feels like TV. 100%. Okay, it currently holds an 81% rating on Rotten Tomatoes and a 62% audience score. Of course, only one of the critic reviews on Rotten Tomatoes that makes up the score is from the year of the movie's release. So, yeah, it was only reviewed by one man, we can assume. Probably a man.
Starting point is 01:00:23 A Batman? Let's take a break. We're back. We're going to do a really fun new segment. Okay, so we have these little QR codes here and we just scan them on our phones and it shows us a little quiz or a little rating scale about this Batman.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And we're going to rate each Batman in every episode. And then, you know, over time, we'll start to figure out who our favorite Batman is. So in this new segment, we're going to rate Adam West on the definitive newcomer's Batman scale. So we're going to rank preparedness. How prepared is this Batman?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Does he get to use his little gadgets and tools? Detective ability. Does this Batman get to be a little detective? Does he get to use his little gadgets and tools? Detective ability. Does this Batman get to be a little detective? Is he good at solving mysteries? Is he good to be a little detective? Voice gravelliness. How gravelly is this Batman's voice? Sadness.
Starting point is 01:01:15 How lonely, brooding, or emo is this Batman? And finally, hotness. How hot is this Batman? Okay, so we're going to take a moment here and make our little votes. I'm sorry that I have my sunglasses on, but they're a prescription and it's the only way I can read. That's okay. Don't ever apologize
Starting point is 01:01:32 for looking cool. I don't want people to think that I'm trying too hard. I don't think so. Please wait for the presenter to show the next slide. Oh, okay. It combines all of our scores. So we have Adam
Starting point is 01:01:49 West's Batman preparedness level is a 98.3. He's extremely prepared. I mean, he has everything labeled Bat blank. Every single thing in his Batcave was labeled. He's organized. He's organized. He knows what he needs when he needs it. He knows where his stuff is
Starting point is 01:02:05 detective ability was an 89.3 I mean yeah I thought he was solving things really quickly he solved things very quick but there were some things where I was like how does he not know that's Catwoman that to me was the only thing where like everything else he figured out pretty quickly voice gravelliness we gave him a 6.3%.
Starting point is 01:02:25 It wasn't gravelly. It was pretty smooth. It was smooth and low. It was pretty smooth like butter. It was just smooth like a... I thought it was like margarine. His sadness scale was a seven. I mean, he didn't really seem sad.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Well, it was just when he realized that he couldn't fuck Catwoman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got sad, but he wasn't sad. That was a temporary feeling. Yeah. Yeah. His hotness is a got sad, but he wasn't sad. That was a temporary feeling. Yes. Yeah. His hotness is a 60.7%. I think that's...
Starting point is 01:02:49 Who brought it down? I put it at 50%. I did too. Where'd you get it? I gave him 80%. Aw. I liked him when he was out of his bad attire. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I felt like he was attractive. I just was kind of going like, you know, thinking if I met him right now, it's like, you know, I'm just kind of. If Batman walked in here right now, the 1966 Batman. Would I be interested? Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But in the world. Maybe I should have rated him in the suit.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Because like in the bat suit, that brings it down for me. But I was like, as Bruce Wayne, I guess, yeah, I should have thought of him as Batman. None of them are really hot in the bat suit, right? Because it's such an obscuring thing. I will say., I should have thought of him as Batman. None of them are really hot in the Batsuit, right? Because it's such an obscuring thing. I will say. Sometimes when they have six packs, it's cool. But then it's a molded thing. Who's Batman now?
Starting point is 01:03:34 I already forgot. Who's the last Batman? Robert Pattinson. Yeah, he's hot. The one you love. Yeah, he's really hot in the Batsuit. Also, he does have bat wings at one time and that made me laugh. I don't know. Maybe none of them are hot. He has wings? It was weird. I'll have to wait.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And I was the only one in the theater who laughed. Maybe I liked it for the wrong reasons. But that doesn't matter. You still had a good time. Okay. Five kapows. It's time for reviews. Newcomers, listener reviews.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Now, these are reviews of us. Yes. Okay. We love to hear compliments. We got five stars from Blue reviews of us. Yes. We love to hear compliments. We got five stars from Blue Flocks. Yes, more newcomers. So excited to hear y'all coming back to do Batman. Can't wait to hear Nicole and Lauren confuse all the Batmans together.
Starting point is 01:04:14 What a treat. What a dream. Three hearts. I love you. Yes, I love that. And in addition to doing Apple reviews of newcomers, we'll also be reading reviews from Letterboxd. And then we're gonna give each film a one sentence
Starting point is 01:04:27 review ourselves and a star rating and if you don't know what Letterboxd is Paul do you know what Letterboxd is? I do know what Letterboxd is great
Starting point is 01:04:33 I'm not gonna explain it well what if someone doesn't know okay it's a social platform where you can write reviews of films and you can follow
Starting point is 01:04:42 the show on Letterboxd at newcomers are either of you on Letterboxd? no absolutely not but Are either of you on Letterboxd? Absolutely not. But I guess we are as a show. I feel like I would like to do it, but when I think about sitting down and writing a thing,
Starting point is 01:04:54 that's where it's over for me. No, it's just too much work. It's too much work. Go on vacation. Yeah, just go on vacation instead. No. Do you do Yelp? No. Yeah, I've done Yelp a few times, but usually only to help someone where they're like, oh, if you liked this give me five stars. I'm like, great, I'll go write a thing. But, no.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I won't. I don't have the time. Yeah, but you know I'll read a review on Yelp. Well, I use Yelp all the time of course. But, you know. Okay, so Letterboxd is where these will exist. We will read some from other people first and then we'll give our own. So Paul, think about what you want to rate the movie.
Starting point is 01:05:28 This is from Emma Stefanski. Reject modernity. Riddler in a gimp mask and normal clothes. Embrace tradition. Riddler in a lime green three piece suit with question marks all over it. Okay. What? You'll find out.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Okay. Reject. What? You'll find out. Okay. Reject? What? You'll find out. Okay. You'll find out. Remember these words, though. Remember these words. I will not remember these words. A gimp mask? Because they will come back to you. I will not remember these words. Okay. Oh, you think you won't. You think you won't. You'll see.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Alright, well, this is from Branson Reese. I know him. I do, too. What? Well, coincidentally, one of the hosts of Rude Tales of Magic, a HeadGum Dungeons and Dragons show, reviewed this movie in 2005. Thank you, Branson. This is the only Batman movie that makes any goddamn sense. Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Hot take. Wow. Hot take. I love it. Okay. I love that. So who wants to go first? I'll do it.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I don't care. Okay. What's the rating system? Sorry. It's five stars. Five stars. Four stars. So the one sentence review.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Two stars. One star. And what does each one of those mean? One star means nah. Two stars means meh. Three stars means okay. Four stars means woo woo. Five stars means I love it.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Okay. Woo woo is lower than I love it? Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, whoo-woo. I don't even have words anymore. It's not much I love this thing. Whoo-woo.
Starting point is 01:06:53 It's a soft one. I can signal. It's like, it's pretty good. It's like, pretty good. Can they hear me? I like it. I like it. Whoo-woo.
Starting point is 01:07:02 My one sentence review is kitschy campy 60s fun bat universe origins is this a haiku? yeah it's really long and very cute and fun
Starting point is 01:07:19 enjoyable romp for all my star rating is I give it look here's why i always get tripped up by star ratings i want to talk about this because i know i'm gonna be rating everything yeah and it's like if i say something is too high it's like if i say it's too high i'm like well of course i want to like the 90s one better than this probably you know it's like so well we don't know but i'm just saying i probably will but i guess i'm supposed to rate it in a vacuum? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Okay. So I'd give it, in a vacuum, I'd give it four stars because I think it's actually really fun for the time and fun for what it is. And I enjoyed myself. So there we go. I'm going to give it two stars. I walked in giving it no stars. But then I talked about it and I was like, actually, wasn't that bad. That happens to us a lot.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Happens to me all the time. Because we always are like, when we talk it through, we're like, that was cool. Yeah. And also, I'm watching these alone with my dog who's just staring at me. I'm like, I have to watch this, Clyde. Yeah. And then I don't have anyone to be like, that was dumb, right? Does he ever watch the movie with you?
Starting point is 01:08:24 Barely. Do you ever look movie with you? Barely. Do you ever look at the screen? Barely. He's just looking at you the whole time. Sometime. Well, last night he looked at me the whole time because I just got back from vacation and sat in front of the TV and he was like, what is this? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:34 You're not going to play with me? Not one time? So you just leave me and then you just come and sit here? You're very, very, what is it, neglectful? Yeah. Okay. My one sentence review is yuck not really i love it oh my nose must be one sentence that's where i got fucked up
Starting point is 01:08:53 it went on okay i liked it okay fine those are commas yeah it was yeah yeah no it's definitely not a sentence you're right that helps you're right there was no it's not that it was too many sentences yeah there was there were no parts of a sentence involved you're right You're right. If that helps. You're right. There was no... It's not that there was too many sentences. Yeah. There were no parts of a sentence involved. You're right. None of it made sense. It was just words. Wait, how many stars? Oh, two. Two. Two's solid, I think. I'm going to give this four stars.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Ooh. And I'm going to say my one sentence review is forget all the darkness. Come into the light. That's really what it is. I like that. It's just a silly good time.
Starting point is 01:09:31 And we do get so much darker with Batman later. It's all black. You can barely see. You are right. It's ridiculous. It is wild to see where it started to where it's ended. And we can all thank that Oppenheimer man. Who's that? Christopher Nolan.
Starting point is 01:09:49 He did them? He made them dark and gritty? He made them, yes. There was, around the time of the Tim Burton movies, the comic books got a little dark. That's when the Dark Knight Rises had come out, I think, the Frank Miller thing that was like a Batman
Starting point is 01:10:05 – it takes place in the future where he's retired and he's gotten out of the crime fighting game and then he gets back into it because the world is crazy or whatever. And so that sort of – that was the first super dark iteration of Batman. Although, I mean, it starts out in the 30s where he's like, I want to terrify criminals, so I'm going to dress up as a big bat and scare them. Which works in a drawing. But also it's pretty funny that he thinks
Starting point is 01:10:32 that outfit is going to terrify anybody. It's not scary at all. That's the thing. By the time they got to this, it's like, it's a comic book. Is that supposed to be funny how it's not scary? How he has it? By this point, the emphasis is not on Batman But are they – is that supposed to be funny how it's like not scary how he has it? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:45 They – by this point, they're not – the emphasis is not on Batman as like a terrifying figure of the night. Yeah. You know, he's like – like the shit is goofy. He's a rich guy who's bored. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like when you see – there's iterations of the Batcave where he has all these treasures from his different – not treasures, but keepsakes from different cases that he's worked. And like, there's a big giant penny and there's like a statue of a dinosaur.
Starting point is 01:11:09 It's like, it was silly. Yeah. Like, they got into silly shit. Yeah. Your life is silly, Batman. Yeah. And everything you've done is lame. Like, they never mentioned that his parents got murdered in the 60s.
Starting point is 01:11:18 No, they're not going dark with that. When does that get mentioned? In what movie? Do you know? Well, don't spoil it. Oh, just kidding. Don't tell me. You're going to see it very soon.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Yes. There's so much I want to say to you guys, but I don't want to spoil anything. I don't want to taint your experiences of the movies that are coming. Yeah. But I am, honestly, I'm very interested in seeing what you like and what you don't like because I don't think I can predict it. Yeah. I don't think I can either because when I had to watch this one,
Starting point is 01:11:45 I went, oh no. And then I was like, I'm having fun. So, you know, you never know. But I look forward to other ones that I might not like. Well, I'll never forget. Scott Aukerman was like, you're going to love Infinity War. You'll be really impressed with the Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:11:58 No, with Marvel shit. He was right. Yeah. And I still really love the blip. The blip was amazing. The blip was great. The blip was a really exciting part of everything. I love the blip the blip was amazing the blip is great the blip was a really exciting part of everything and you know i love that blip changed lives although i did try to watch gardens of the galaxy the third one
Starting point is 01:12:16 we didn't have to watch that no because it just came out but i i'm turned in my marvel card i'm done you're done watching them I can't do it anymore. I thought I liked them. I thought I was on board after doing it. We were indoctrinated by the podcast. We're going like, we like them because we're watching so many. And then life goes back and you're like, I don't watch this. Yeah. It was really wild.
Starting point is 01:12:36 I was on a plane. I was like, this is, what is this? Yeah. Yeah. Mm-mm. All right. Well, I encourage everyone out there to please write us a review on Apple Podcasts of our podcast please
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Starting point is 01:13:00 yeah we'll see that's just two weeks of people rate it on Spotify which takes.2 seconds. You literally just press the stars and move on. I had to do the math. And of course, listen to Threedom and
Starting point is 01:13:12 Neighborhood Listen. Any other podcasts you have out there in the world now? Stay of Homekins. I listen to every month. And you have a sub stack and a Patreon. We have a sub stack where we do extra stuff. We did a recap series of And Just Like That. It's so funny.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Season two. I have a whole ritual where I will watch And Just Like That. Then I immediately listen to your recap. Then I listen to the official podcast of the show where the writers talk about it because I like to hear all the different perspectives. And I can't get enough. So it's just great. It's really fun. We watch it and then we immediately start recording. It's really good. That's very funny because I like to hear all the different perspectives and I can't get enough. So it's just great. Yeah. It's really fun. We watch it and then we immediately start recording.
Starting point is 01:13:47 It's really good. Very funny. I like that. That show is bad. I love it. If they put out an episode every single day, I will watch it. If they put out an episode every day for the rest of my life,
Starting point is 01:13:59 I would watch it. That's what I want. I want it every day, every day, the rest of my life. Yeah. I want to see what happens in their lives want. I want it every day, every day, the rest of my life. Yeah. And I'm excited. I want to see what happens in their lives forever.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I went on vacation, so I'm two episodes back, and I cannot wait to get caught up. And the Aiden stuff is so good. Oh, my God. Okay, so obviously. They're so in love so quickly. And the way they wrote Aiden, I was like, someone in the room is an original writer. He's like, what up, buttercup? And I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I know. Aiden's back, baby. I know. He's like, what up, buttercup? And I'm like, I know, I know. I know, he's so him. I love him. I'm obsessed. Me too. Okay, so we're gonna be back. Of course, that lit us up like a fire,
Starting point is 01:14:35 but we're gonna be back next week with the 1989 Batman. Yeah. So we will see you then. Na, na, na, na, na, na. Thank you, Paul. And we're so excited. Bye.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Bye-bye. Bye. Bye-bye. Newcomers is a production of HeadGum Studios. Our producer is Ali Khan. Our executive producer is Anya Kanovskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and mastered by Faris Manji, who also composed
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