Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Batman Begins (w/ Mary Holland)

Episode Date: February 13, 2024

Lauren and Nicole enter the Christopher Nolan Batman-verse with very special guest Mary Holland (Self-Reliance, Happiest Season, Harley Quinn) covering 2005’s Batman Begins with Christian Bale. Fun! Together, they weave their way through knowing (and then not knowing, and then knowing again) who Ra’s al Ghul really is, give ample praise for Dawson’s Creek legend Katie Holmes, and feel comfortable enough to make a shocking confession (this is their first time watching a Nolan film...ever!). Next week's movie: The Dark Knight (2008). Follow Mary: InstagramLike the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Tell us, Mr. Wayne. What do you fear? I leave you know my name. The world is too small for someone like Bruce Wayne to disappear. Your parents' death was not your fault. My parents deserve justice. I cannot let that pass.

If you make yourself more than just a man, then you become something else entirely. What is? A legend, Mr. Wayne. Mr. Wayne, are you coming back for long, sir? As long as it takes to show the people of Gotham their city doesn't belong to the criminals and the corrupt. Chris? Rachel? You've got a long time. I know. This city doesn't belong to the criminals and the corrupt. Bruce? Rachel? You've gone a long time.

I know. Things are worse than ever down here. What chance does Gotham have when the good people do nothing? No mixed survival suit for advanced infantry. Kevlar utility harness, gas-powered magnetic grapple gun. What's that? You want the tumbler? Oh, you wouldn't be interested in that.

I spent a lot of time being scared for you. I heard you were back. But the man I loved, the man who vanished, never came back. He's here. Who? The Batman. I wish she never came back. He's here. Who? The Batman. God, that must be destroyed. Gotham isn't beyond saving.

T'Challa! Rekha! I'm not going to let you go. Marco! Guy dresses up like a bat. Clearly has issues. I'm out. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na Batman Begins! I'm Lauren Lapkus. I'm Nicole Byer. And guess what? We're covering Batman!

This is the seventh episode of the sixth season of Newcomers. We are working our way through movies within the Batman universe with the help of fellow newcomers, super fans, sometimes even people who've contributed. Guess what? This is going to be 14 episodes culminating in a very exciting live stream episode! Anything can happen. We're going to cover as much as we can, but we can't get to everything. And today, we are discussing the 2005 film, Batman Begins, starring Christian Bale.

I didn't realize this was 2005. Yeah. This seems so current. I know. I know. It seemed like today. Yeah, it does. Batman Begins is available with a subscription on Max and Prime Video. And you can also watch it for a fee on Apple TV

Plus, Google Play, and Vudu. And obviously we're going to spoil the film. We're going to go through it with the help of the Batman Wiki. We are so excited for our guest today. You better believe she's an actor. She's a writer. She's a comedian known for her work in shows like Beep, Comedy Bang Bang, Blunt Talk, Physical,

the movie The Happiest Season. Ooh, movies. Sorry. Happiest Season. Mike and Dave need wedding dates, senior year and more. She also voices Jennifer and Tabitha in the Harley Quinn series. It's Mary. voices Jennifer and Tabitha in the Harley Quinn series.

It's Mary. It's Mary. Oh my, Mary, you're on Harley Quinn? I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Way to keep that under wraps. Yeah. Sorry. Why didn't you tell me what?

Because it's a secret. Okay. I really want, I want the viewers to, the viewers To get immersed in the world To be thinking about Oh this is Mary But I just think you should have Maybe I should have mentioned Just a little group test

Wait who's Jennifer and who's Tabitha They're characters Mary's like I do not know I just go in the booth and talk Scream in a mic and I make it make sense. Well, we can't wait to talk about Batman Begins with you today. As I can't as well. Now, we want to know, what is your relationship to the character of Batman, the DC Comics universe?

I'm horny for him. Okay. So it's a sexual relationship. Yes, yes, sexual relationship. Yes, sexual relationship. I saw Batman Forever. I think that was my first Batman I ever saw. I remember it being a sexual awakening for me

for a number of reasons. Val Kilmer, I think to this day Val Kilmer is Batman. Batman Forever is your sexual awakening. I have to wrap my head around this. I like this. I'm kind of my head around this. I like this. Yeah. I'm kind of on board.

Val Kilmer's hot. He's so hot. But there's more to this story because I know who your big crush is. And it's someone else in the film. Who's your big crush? My big crush. My biggest crush. Tommy Lee Jones.

Yes. Really? Yes. I love him. I think he's so hot and in this movie he's so hot as Two-Face as Two-Face there's something oh my gosh he really just lets a rip in this movie he's such a great actor yeah I just love his face so much yeah and I love two of his faces yeah two is better than one two is better than one. Two is better than one? Are you kidding me?

I get it. I really like him in Men in Black. Sure. I've never seen that film. You've never seen Men in Black? Oh my gosh, Lauren! Men in Black is great. Men in Black 2 is not good.

That doesn't make any sense. Men in Black 3 is wonderful, and I cried in the theater. Okay. You did? I didn't see Men in Black 3. It was great. I only saw the first one. Was it M-

I love the first one. I-I-I-B? I believe so. Men in-in- was great I only saw the first one Was it M I love the first one I, I, I, B I believe so Men in, in, in, in, in, Black 3 Yeah I didn't like the second one Men in Black 3 First and third

Okay I'll add those to my list Of five billion movies I've ever seen It's gonna be tough To get through them You're already getting Through it

Actually, I know We're doing a lot It's a lot Are you into horror films? I was gonna ask I do like them Because I was curious After watching horror films I was going to ask I do like them because I was curious after watching this

which I was very scared by many times I thought what if we did classic horror films I would do that in a heartbeat I'm scared of horror films I love horror films

when I was like I don't know like 11 or 12 I asked my mother to see The Exorcist because I just heard it was like one of the scariest movies

and then my mom bought it we had to sleep over all the girls got so just heard it was like one of the scariest movies. Yeah. And then my mom bought it. We had to sleep over. All the girls got so scared and I was just alone watching it in my living room as they like did crafts with my mom. I'm honestly nervous for the idea I just pitched.

I was like, I don't want to watch The Exorcist. It's going to be fun. I think it's a great idea. Should we do that? I think we should. Okay. Let's think about it.

Okay. We can look at the list and see what you haven't seen too because... Oh yeah, and I haven't seen a lot. Oh good. You know me the list and see what you haven't seen, too, because... Oh, yeah. And I haven't seen a lot. Oh, good. You know me.

I know. I've truly never seen a thing. It's surprising that I've seen The Exorcist. It is. It is. You went out of your way. Yeah. You made an appointment.

Okay. Can we quickly say our thoughts about this movie and our experiences that we had watching the film? I will say, thought it was fantastic and was scared and interested the entire time yeah yeah goddess i think i said earlier the dumbest sentence i said this movie really felt like a movie i know and i did it really did what it meant by it is it felt very current even though it's from like 2005 yes um and yes. And I was engaged the whole time. Yeah.

And I thought it was funny at parts. Yeah. I thought it was scary at parts. Yeah. I don't know. That Christopher Nolan, might know what he's doing. I know.

Might just. I was also surprised to hear that it came out in 2005 because it does feel very current. It's so cinematic. Yes. And to me, Christopher Nolan really explores,

I mean, in all the Batman movies, you know, Gotham is a dark city. Like, we're dipping our toes into the darkness. But with the Christopher Nolan Batman movies, it really feels like we're going to the drama of it. Yeah. We're really getting into the drama and the darkness. And I think it worked so well. It was my favorite telling of the story. Me too, because you never get a full backstory.

This gave you a backstory to a backstory to a backstory. It explained the bats. It explained how he can fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And then how he can use all his tools. He doesn't do everything alone. And I really liked that.

Yeah. It made so much more sense to me. And Christian Bale, I thought, was like just... Was really good. So, he's so great and everything,

but like, the difference between Batman and Bruce Wayne I really liked. It was very, very distinct. Yeah. Tell me.

I was like, oh my God, tell him. I know that voice. That voice. Just tell him. Just tell him. And Katie Holmes, who I didn't know was in this.

She's great. She's great in it. And I kind of like that they switched up the hot blonde to a hot brunette. Yeah. I liked it. And she's kind of like a girl next door, which we don't get from any of these. No, you get like a vampy lady. But yeah, she was just like the girl next door who loved him earnestly.

Boy, oh boy. I loved this movie i know me too i actually was like i can watch it again same and i almost watched it again this morning to be like did i get every morsel yeah it's truly amazing um all right we'll take a quick break we'll be back with batman begins and we're gonna get so deep into it. If you're wondering what a NordVPN is, I'll tell you. VPN stands for Virtual Private Network, a service that protects your internet connection and online privacy. A VPN creates an encrypted tunnel for your data,

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Link is in the episode description. Ooh, we're back. So, okay, Batman Begins was released June... All of these movies were released in June. Oh, that's weird. Yeah. June 17th, 2005, written by Christopher Nolan and David S. G 17th 2005 written by Christopher Nolan

and David S. Goyer directed by Christopher Nolan I've never seen another Christopher Nolan movie I don't think I don't know if I have I don't know what they are

what? yeah I know his name it's part of the Zeitgeist yeah and I know he just did Oppenheimer

yes I almost just said Barbenheimer and I was like that's not the name of the fucking movie that's how they marketed of the fucking movie. They marketed it to us.

They did. What your mouth did was incredible. It got so small. The smallest I've ever seen. That got me good. I can't do it again. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity. Wait, what other movies has he done? Oh, Inception was probably it.

Oh, I saw that. I saw that. I saw the poster. Never seen that. Oh, I think I saw that. Was there something behind a bookcase? I don't know about that. Matthew McConaughey, I think was in that. Okay, I don't remember that very well.onaughey I think was in that

okay I don't remember that but also Space Space okay Tenet which came out during the pandemic

The Dark Knight yes oh yeah yeah okay okay great okay so I've seen two out of four that were named

we're doing great we did Memento too I think Memento oh I've seen Memento I've never seen that but I understand oh he did Memento Memento is a reallyemento? Oh, I've seen Memento. I've never seen that, but I understand. Oh, he did Memento? Memento is a really great movie.

I understand there's something about things going backwards. As I understand it, there's something going backwards. It's a man who doesn't have a memory, so he like tattoos shit to himself. But then he's also trying to save his wife. And then there's a twist about his wife. Wasn't there that show on TV, like not that long ago, about that woman who was covered in tattoos that were about things that happened? Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

I believe it was on NBC. And I loved her haircut. She had such a great haircut. It was a nice haircut. And it showed the back of her neck. Yes. So you could see the tattoo? Yeah.

What was that? I don't know. Blind spot? Yes. Didn't watch it. No. No. No. Okay. okay well let's jump

into the plot of this film and also I recall when this movie was being filmed in Chicago because it was kind of a big deal

they were shutting down I believe it was lower Wacker Drive for when there's the big chase where he rides over the roofs and stuff

and he's like under the freeway yeah it is yeah that's cool and so it was cool because there were like signs everywhere.

And we're like, wow, a movie's being made here. Okay, so we, of course, want to give our gratitude to the Batman fandom. Yes, lots of gratitude. Thank you so much for everything we're about to hear. Okay, so here's how the movie begins. As a young boy of eight,uce wayne falls down a well while playing on his manor grounds with his friend rachel dawes where he is caught in a swarm of bats flashing forward in time an adult bruce christian bale wakes up from his memory

dream in a boutonniere prison so you would say that i don't know and you know i don't know no one here right okay knees okay yeah great so after a prison brawl, an enigma... Uh-oh. An enigma? Enigmatic. Enigmatic? And that's a word we all knew? We all knew it.

Enigmatic? I love how this is. Sometimes Mary ever tough time reading. No, I'm not good at cold reading. A couple days ago, I couldn't read at all. And then you were like, I got it. And you just started the whole thing over. I was like, so I was like, very reading a couple days ago I couldn't read it all and then you were like I got it and just started the whole thing over

I was like I don't know sometimes reading's hard for both of us reading's hard for everybody it is it's like you're in school and it's your turn

yeah what I would do is I would read ahead just in case they called on me yeah because yeah cold reading's not

is not good for me it can create nerves it's like in an audition when they're like, do you want to just read this new scene? And I'm like, no, you got to let me go outside and read it. Yeah. Anyway, this man who identifies himself as Henry Duckard, Liam Neeson, who I love. Ooh, baby. He's so great.

He's great. And I find him to be so sexy. Invites Bruce to join in a league. No, Tommy Lee Jones. But go ahead. You're right. Honestly, you are right. I do no Tommy Lee Jones, but go ahead. You're right. Honestly, you are right. I do think Tommy Lee Jones is more attractive.

There's like a gravitas to Tommy Lee Jones. Yeah. I'm happy for you guys. To join an elite vigilante group, the League of Shadows, which is a dumb name, but I was like into it. Under the leadership of Ra Al Ghul, Ken Wantebe, Bruce is freed the next day and travels to the top of a Tibetan mountain to begin his combat training with the League. Yeah. So Ra Al Ghul.

This was, of course, it comes into play later. But I was confused enough during this part that the twist almost didn't get me later. Oh. I was kind of like, who did the twist almost didn't get me later. I was kind of like, who did a what now? Yeah, who is this? Yeah, yeah. I hear you. Yeah. It was pretty confusing.

It was a little confusing. I did watch it in three parts, so it's partly why. Fair. Yeah. Because when I saw them, I was like, huh, those mountain people weren't good? Yeah. And I was like, oh, those mountain people weren't good. Because it took a while to understand why he's doing this

yes which i still was intrigued by because i was like this is just a really interesting start to this movie um but yeah it took me a while to to fully grasp um in a flashback eight-year-old bruce is rescued at the bottom of the well by his father thomas linus roach but he is left with a fear of bats when bruce and his parents attend the opera Mephistopheles, Wow, a lot of words in here that are wild. Bruce is frightened by the portrayals of bat-like demons in the performance. This scene really broke my heart. He and his parents exit into an alley where they are confronted by an armed mugger,

Joe Chill, Richard Brake, who shoots and kills Bruce's parents. Chill is arrested and convicted for the double murder, but Bruce is left traumatized by the incident. The family's butler Alfred J. Pennyworth, Michael Kane, best Alfred. Oh my gosh. Hands down. Raises Bruce in the absence of his parents. The killing in the alley was intense. It was so intense. We've now seen it like

at least five times. But this kid was a good actor. He was really good and the like premise of it that it's like his fault that they go outside. Yes because he was like I didn't want to be in there. Yeah. Also, I really liked Alfred and I also like Morgan Freeman's character because it kind of felt like the devil and angel

on Bruce's shoulder a little bit. Oh, yeah. Where Alfred was like, don't do that. And then... And then Morgan Freeman's like, I'll order it. Yeah. I'll order it. I'll order whatever you need. Whatever you need. I'll order it. Yeah. I'll order it. I'll order whatever you need.

Whatever you need. I'll cook it right up. And it also made sense of, like, of course, you know, he's a billionaire. So we've always just taken that for granted. That's why he has this cave and that's why he has all this stuff. But it was like it explained how he put it together. I really liked that. I liked so much.

Yeah. It was. This is an actual origin story. And it's funny that we're. I don't know. This is this is an actual origin story, and it's funny that we're, I don't know, this is six? We're seven. No, but we did the,

I don't think that 1980 or 1966 follows this. Oh, okay, yeah. I think it starts with Batman. Right. But it's so funny that we're six movies in, and now we're just getting an actual origin story. Yeah. And I have a question.

In previous iterations of this scene with his parents, was it the Joker who did it? In two movies, it's been the Joker. Okay. Right. I hate my life. And then Joe Chill, I guess, is from in the comic book. In the comic book.

Wait, was it the Joker and the Phantasm? Yeah. And in Batman. Yeah. Okay. So when Bruce becomes a young man, he returns home to Gotham City from Princeton University with a bad haircut. Yeah, but that was perfect to make it look like.

They basically were just like, just brush it over his forehead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll make him look 10 years younger. Intent on killing Joe Chill. I loved this. Whose prison sentence was being suspended in exchange for testifying against mob boss Carmine Falcone,

Gillian B. Loeb. Chill is assassinated by one of Falcone's henchmen. Is it Falcone or Falcone? Falcone. Falcone. Falcone's henchmen depriving Bruce of his opportunity. When Bruce tells his childhood friend Rachel Dawes, Katie Holmes, about his foiled plan, she expresses disgust and she slaps him and gives him a lecture about the difference between

justice and revenge. I know. She slapped him twice, I remember. He's holding a gun and she slapped him. I was like, don't do that. Ballsy. I think she knows Bruce and he's a little wimpy. Yeah.

Or back then. But I loved this whole set up with the mob people and everything like I was like this is like a it feels very realistic yes I wish I enjoyed it I gotta say this movie it's like full it's like a world it was very world building

the crime underworld of Gotham yeah yeah you really got to like see it and I think the way it was so grounded was really interesting, like, because there aren't a lot, even when we get to, like, the other villain, like, the big villain, or there's a couple, but, I mean, it's, like, it's still more grounded

than, like, obviously, especially coming off Batman and Robin, where everyone's, like, super silly in big costumes and stuff. It's also funny because, like, the party scene where Bruce is like, go home, da-da-da, I was like, yeah, that's a party I've been to. The party scene where bruce is like go home i was like yeah that's a party i've been to the party scene in batman and robin i was like nobody has been to a party that looks or feels like that no not one person in america or anywhere in the world yeah um but yeah this felt very real right and even like the speech he made all of the and like the feeling of it and boy Christian Bale oh he's so good

he's so good he's so good and I was thinking of American Psycho which I loved did you know he based that character on Tom Cruise

no that's crazy I think I read that somewhere and I might be lying but I'm 99% no you're right wow yeah you're right

that's amazing and then if you ever watch Tom Cruise in movies he like doesn't blink yeah like it's I just watched Collateral, and he barely blinks the whole movie. I was like, are his eyes dry?

That must be some sort of technique that he's doing. It's wild. Something. I love American Psycho. Yeah, me too. I know he's so awesome. He's so awesome. Okay.

Realizing she's right, Bruce decides to confront falcone himself but the mob boss dismisses him as ignorant of nature of the underworld saying you're bruce wayne the prince of gotham you'd have to go a thousand miles to find someone who doesn't know your name having his thugs rough him up realizing that falcone is right and that he cannot truly understand what he intends to fight as a wealthy playboy he abandons his life at home stowing away on a cargo ship and traveling the world for nearly seven years yeah i love it yeah and this is how he gets to the where we saw him in the opening yeah he like falls in with some criminals he gets put in prison there yeah yes i really love also this this sort of internal

conflict that's happening for him where this idea of vengeance versus justice yeah and and how and his parents my goodness i mean they couldn't have been nicer people yeah am i right yeah so nice so moral so like they're perfect people yeah and um and so and then the league of shadows with with Liam Neeson, they're all about, like, you have to, like, justice and vengeance, they're the same thing. Yeah. You can't have empathy or morals. Yeah.

So interesting. Yeah, I loved everything leading up to, like, trying to kill that man and then trying to, like, go to the mob boss himself. It's, like, just, like, an angry young man. Yeah. Yes. And then just, like, leaving. It all just made so much sense.

Yes. So Bruce associates with criminals to learn their ways. Oh, I liked when he stole the apple and gave some to that kid. And is thrown into a booties prison by police for theft. Ironically, a Bruce Wayne Enterprise property. In his training, Bruce overcomes his fear of bats while under the hallucinogenic influence of a mountainside blue flower. However, Bruce soon realizes that he's forced to lead the League and its fight to restore

order in Gotham by creating chaos and murdering its population. When Duckard orders Bruce to execute a murderer as a final test, Bruce refuses to obey and destroys the League's headquarters, killing Ra in the process. However, Bruce rescues an unconscious Ducker from the wreckage and leaves his mentor at a nearby village. Yeah. Yeah, he did. Yep, certainly did.

20 years after the Wayne murders, Bruce returns to a Gotham city that is mostly ruled by Falcone and begins plotting a one-man war against the corrupt system. He returns to the well he fell down and discovers the Batcave for the first time. I also liked that because it's so organic.

Can you believe how big that cave was? It was so big. I was like, wow. Alfred informs him that Bruce is... Wait, so the Batcave was super, super big and in Batman and Robin, Alfred said, we're going to need a bigger cave, so I think that was a nod to Batman and Robin.

Wow. You think that was a nod to Batman and Robin. Wow. You think that this person is wasting their time nodding to that? I don't think they have to do that. Oh, my God. Alfred informs him that Bruce's great-great-grandfather was involved in the Underground Railroad and secretly transported freed slaves to the North and suspects these caverns came in handy during that time. After reestablishing his connections to his father's company, Wayne Enterprises, Bruce is able to acquire,

with the help of former board members Lucius Fox, Morgan Freeman, an armored off-road vehicle and an experimental body armor. He augments the suit with League of Shadows gauntlets and a special cape that can become a rudimentary hang glider. So it's all, first of all, his family helps freed slaves,

which I was like, that's amazing. So it's just another notch in them being like the moral people. And then I loved how naturally he acquired all of these things. It was such a good story. It wasn't boring. It was like every step of the way way I was like, uh-huh. Yeah. I also love that he was so hands-on with it.

Like it wasn't, yes, Lucius Fox gave him a lot of equipment, but he also, he like spray painted himself. He's painting in his suit. Yeah, I know. He like fashioned things. He's like a welder. Yeah. Who knew?

I know. Who knew? I appreciated that. He did like the Underground Railroad thing because it was like American history, making it organic, but then also adding to you come from a line of people who help other people. Yeah. This is your heritage. Yeah.

I like that. Okay. Bruce then seeks the help of police sergeant Jim Gordon, Gary Oldman, who, okay, I'm like trying to fuck. Who consoled him in the aftermath of his parents' murder. Bruce pays a visit to Gordon one night in disguise to establish communication. During his first night as Batman, he disrupts a drug shipment by Falcone. He also disrupts an assassination attempt on Rachel, leaving her with evidence against a judge that has gone soft on Falcone in the past. He leaves the mob boss tied to a search

light, forming a makeshift bat signal, which I thought that was really fucking so cool. But first, I liked when he went to go see Sergeant Gordon or whatever, and he like jumped away. He kind of like fucked up a little bit because he hadn't gotten everything

all set up. And I like that. I don't know if I know what you're talking about. He was wearing not a bat thing. That's right. He was wearing like a ski mask. Oh, right, right, right. He's just running like a thief, kind of. And his voice wasn't in place. He hadn't done his warm-ups. And I was like,

isn't that fun? We got to see a dress rehearsal during the movie. Yeah, it's like a process for him. Yes, I heard it interrupt. Bruce later runs into Rachel outside of a hotel of fun we got to see a dress rehearsal during the movie it's like a process for him yes no totally bruce later runs into rachel outside of a hotel where he was publicly on a date with two women later in an interrogation room dr crane killian murphy a colleague of rachel's reveals himself to be the scarecrow to falcone spraying him with hallucinogenic spray and terrifying that was scary that was scary um we on our previous show i thinkourley said Scarecrow was going to come into play in this

and so I knew that but I didn't know who it was and so I actively didn't because I was going to look up something else and I was like

don't I don't want to know and I was surprised it was him because I wasn't sure if it was going to be Falcone and that was fun that's a good thinker

yeah he's a very he's a surprising Scarecrow though he does have such a sort of kind of bookish look about him you wouldn't think it

and then and then it's also like the mask itself like you put that on with no hallucinogenic you're gonna be scared yeah and that's scary and you add that on

and it's so freaky like it's so scary and it felt like it was such a cool the CGI or whatever was so awesome I thought it was like really

it looked really cool and his name is how do you killian i asked for clarity on that from mike but if it's wrong then we know who to sue yeah we'll sue mike i also like that this this hallucinogenic it it makes like you get to experience as the person who's seen what comes out of the scarecrow's face is what they're scared of yeah so it's not the same for every person. And then when that happens later with Batman's face to him, that was fun. That was wild.

That's the bubbling black. Yeah, this movie looked like fun to work on. I don't know. It was really great. While investigating the unusual drugs in the shipment, Batman stunned by the scarecrow who sprays him with a powerful hallucinogenic as well

after being set on fire by a scarecrow this whole scene was so I was like there are so much stakes in this movie and I was like

wait Batman's done now and I was like he can't be there's a lot of movie left he's fully on fire yes and okay so Batman escapes

puts out the fire that's on him Batman is rescued by I did love the phone call he's like come get me Alfred yeah fully on fire. Yes. And OK. So Batman escapes puts out the fire that's on him. Batman is rescued by I did love the phone call he's like come get me Alfred. Yeah. So he's rescued by Alfred

administered an anti-toxin developed by Fox two days later Bruce awakens on his 30th birthday. 30. I don't know about that. That doesn't seem quite right to me.

But I went with it. Yeah. As a viewer. That's the one thing I wasn't sure about with this movie. Yeah. But I was like I buy 37 38. But I went with it as a viewer. That's the one thing I wasn't sure about with this movie. Yeah. But I was like, I buy 37, 38.

But I love him just walking like, it's my birthday. Like, it's like, he's so good at playing that. Yes. And that playboy. The, like, you know, real. It's the American Psycho. Yes. Like, the sort of, like, cocky attitude and like, yeah.

Yes. You also realize how little, like, I don't, I could count on one hand the amount of times I attitude. You also realize how little... I could count on one hand the amount of times I've seen Christian Bale smile. Yeah, he doesn't really smile. But as Bruce Wayne, he really smiles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does.

It's a totally different face. It is a different face. That's really interesting. His teeth are really interesting. His mouth is interesting. He's got little fangs. Okay, because I didn't know if it was fangs. It sort of felt like he has front teeth on the sides.

They're very thick, solid teeth on the side. I think he has really strong canines. I think so, too. A dentist's dream. Yeah, dentists love it. Let me floss those puppies all night long. So the scarecrow later poisons Rachel after showing her that the toxin which was revealed

to only be harmful in vapor form is being piped into Gotham's water supply she's saved by Batman the police enter the asylum and Batman escapes with Rachel in his tank

so did we say okay yeah so he basically makes Falcone go crazy yes which helps him for some reason I don't really know why

he just wants him to go crazy I think it's because Falcone is working with Cillian Murphy's character yeah he's like gonna rat out silly or Killian Killian and then he's like no you're not you're not gonna do anything yeah I'm gonna make you crazy so the part where they take so he Scarecrow is like as Dr. Crane he's like telling um Rachel that Falcone's actually gone mad or whatever and And then she's like, I don't believe you. Like, you put something in his blood. I'm gonna get this tested. I'm gonna have somebody come here.

And he goes, okay, that's fine. You can do that. And I'm gonna take, why don't I show you where the medicine is made? And then he takes you to this very creepy basement. Which is so scary. And it was also very pandemic-y because everyone's wearing masks, making the toxin, which that part almost didn't strike me as odd at all. Like, just seeing, like, a room full of people in masks.

But they're in red jumpsuits dumping toxic waste into the sewers. Yeah, there's a broken pipe that they're dumping it into. And she gets so scared and then she tries to get away and then he scare crow faces her. And gave her a real concentrated dose. So she was like real fucked up.

Yeah, real fucked up. And then they race together to the Batcave. So after administering the antidote to Rachel in his cave, Batman gives her two vials of it for Gordon. One for the detective to inoculate himself.

Yeah! And another to mass reduce for the city's population. I fucking hate it. I know you said it's fine. It's part of this. I don't want to say. I fucking hate it. It's okay. I know you said it's fine. It's part of this. Okay. I don't want to say it. But you can.

It's fine. Nailed it. I like don't even hear it anymore. I said it really quiet and I went, fuck. Wait, is this, this isn't the,

the chase where all the cops are on Batman's tail. Is that later? I think this is late. That's later because. I thought this when he was getting Rachel to the bat cave. Oh no, maybe it is. I can't believe that the bat wiki didn't go more in depth than it.

That was one of the best. Yeah, that's actually. That's an incredible chase. There was funny parts to it. I can't handle how the Batman fandom wiki. Wow. Blew that.

You guys, it was an incredible chase. I loved when the cops were like, what does it look like? They're like, a black tank? And they're like, well, but like what? And they're like, oh, I see it. Like, that was really funny to me. And when they're flying on the roof.

Remember, that was so cool. He's flying over roofs. And they're all coming, crushing apart and stuff. And he just jumps over back on the highway. I mean, it was so awesome. It was really fucking cool. And then Rachel's like coming to me. He's like, breathe deeply.

And she's like, Rachel! And then I liked when he like shoots forward and under and is like on his stomach to like shoot things. Oh my gosh. That was so cool. I was like, yeah. And then also how when they got to the Batcave, how he like, how he. And then the bat.

And then the bat. And then the bat. And the bat. And then. And how the car like jumped over that body of water and through the waterfall. Yeah. Oh, so cool. The waterfall was so cool. I was sitting there going, how do they make this?

I have no idea. I thought about trying to Google like a making of. Yeah. Because I was like, how many collaborators collaborated on this? How is it written in the original script? Right. Like all of it was just, how did you decide who was going to lay flat to shoot guns in the thing?

Yeah. It was just really, it was really fucking cool. Yeah. So cool. And it had to be planned out really specifically. So it's not like there was some sort of last minute, like now you'll just lay over here.

Just lay down. Yeah. Like the other movies that could happen. Like where it's kind of like, why don't you try it like this? Like this had to be like a math problem. So I don't know. It, absolutely. Where it's kind of like, why don't you try it like this? Like, this had to be like a math problem. So, I don't know. It was amazing.

Yeah. And I wonder how much was CG and how much was practical. Because it didn't feel CG. It didn't feel at all. Yeah. Okay. Anyway. Later.

Whatever. Later at a party held at his mansion, Bruce, much to his surprise and shock, is confronted by Ducard and a group of ninjas from the League of Shadows who then reveal themselves to be the real Ra's al Ghul the former person who died being a decoy so this is where I had to go like wait what just

happened he gets introduced to Ra's al Ghul by like an unassuming old white lady who's like you've got to knit this man. That part was so, I loved her. I think his name's Ra's al Ghul.

Did I say that right? And then he's like, he's like, that's not Ra's al Ghul because I watched you die. And the lady's just standing there like, she's like, this is going well.

Pretty weird. Oh, so you've met? Yeah, we've met. You have a lot in common, I think. You guys know each other. Well, he is at your party. And then that's when we understand that that guy was not the real Roz and the person that he saved, Liam Neeson, was. Yes, was the real.

Yes. Yes. Bruce, tricking his guest into leaving, fights briefly with Roz while the League of Shadows set fire to Wayne Manor, which is so fucked up. So like, okay, so I didn't, here's what I thought was about to happen. And I don't know how off, I mean, I clearly was off because it wasn't what happened, but I don't know how crazy it was. Like Roz was like threatening him. Yeah. And then I thought, oh, is he about to reveal Batman's identity?

oh is he about to reveal Batman's identity and so when Bruce kind of decides to play drunk and make that speech I thought he was gonna say I'm Batman and everyone would go

ha ha ha and then it would fuck up whatever Ross was doing but then he then so his angle of being like I hate all of you

get the fuck out of here you losers I was like oh this feels so mean it felt mean and it was cringy and it was like embarrassing but like I got where I was doing it and it was such a cool mean and it was cringy and it was like embarrassing but like I got right

he was doing it and it was such a cool tactic and it also made sense yeah because people were like oh Bruce Lee's so spoiled and fucking Christian Bale when he was like

when he decided to be drunk I was like the change in him was so like subtle but clear but very clear I just loved it

should we go to the Christian Bale school to act I think we should we have to I have something. I have two things to say. First of all, I thought it was really interesting because in that speech that Ra's al Ghul gives to him, he's like, guess what? League of Shadows is behind every major disaster that's ever happened.

The bubonic plague. That's the only one I can think of. The like, that's the only one I can think of. But like any like disaster that has sort of eliminated, you know, massive populations of cities. Yeah. They were behind it, which I thought was so interesting. Another thing I want to say is just to speak to the earlier when Christian Bale is trying to come up with what he's going to be. Because he can't be Bruce Wayne. Yeah.

What is he going to be? How he said he was like, I have to be fear itself. I have to be elemental. Yeah. Yeah. That's all. Okay, keep going. I love it.

I remember what I want to say. Let's see. So where were we? Setting fire. Oh, yeah. So they set fire to Wayne Manor. Bruce escapes the Infer with alfred's help i loved it all those push-ups and you can't lift this i love alfred um just as the manor is destroyed

roz who's been conspiring with the scarecrow the entire time plans to destroy gotham by distributing the toxin which was extracted from the mountainside blue flowers undetected via gotham's water supply and then vaporize it with a microwave emitter stolen from wayne enterprises i gotta say the plan is even more realistic than any other like batman and robin they used mirrors and the sun and like maybe the equator they literally like heat up a frozen city on africa and send it over here. I was like, what are you talking about? Batman wants to trail Roz and arrives at the narrow section of Gotham to aid the police

who are engaged in battle with psychotic criminals set free from Arkham Asylum by the League. After saving Rachel and intimating his identity to her, which I was always like, the woman always finds out, he leaves Gordon in control of the Batmobile to stop the elevated train that is being used

to transport the vaporizer to the city's central water hub. Batman battles Roz, then escapes just as Gordon topples the elevated line using the Batmobile's missiles, leaving Roz to crash with the train to the ground. That was very cool. He was like, I'm not going to kill you. Yes. But I don't have to save you. I don't have to save you.

And it was cool. And I was like, I really loved that. I was like i'm not gonna kill you yes but i don't have to i don't have to save you and it was and i was like i really loved that i was like oh batman yeah um also i liked uh the callback of the guy the the the homeless man with the jacket yes and he's like nice jacket yeah that was so fun yeah i like that thanks i like the kid who's like, you're Batman. Yeah. And then, they'll never believe me. And then he threw him like a little bat thing. And I was like, oh my God, he is the city's hero. I also love the repeating of the, I mean, it's going to make me cry just saying it. You know, the question that his dad asked him at the very beginning, which is, why do we fall?

Why do we fall, Bruce? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up. Oh my God. It is a good line. It's so good. And it is a thing in real life. Because it's like when you fail, you don't just give up. You pick yourself up and you figure out how to go on.

I feel you on that. I feel nothing. Following the battle, Batman becomes a public hero bruce gains control of wayne enterprises and installs fox as ceo firing this was great and then the bat the batman wiki didn't really talk anything about this william early man who is like not nice and running um running wayne enterprises like, made it go public. However, he's unable to hold on to Rachel, who cannot reconcile her love for Bruce Wayne

with his dual life as Batman. When she was like, what did she say? She essentially was like, Batman is who you actually are. Yeah, and she's like, this is your mask when he was, like,

just Bruce Wayne. Yes. And I was like, she's not wrong. But I was like, still date him. Yeah, date him. Yeah, I was confused.

And also, they just shared quite a smooch., still date him. Yeah, date him. Yeah, I was confused. And also, they just shared quite a smooch. They did. And after that, you're going to say. You know him really well. He's a billionaire and he's Batman. Two things that I like. Wild. I don't like billionaires.

Let's get that clear. Gordon, newly promoted to lieutenant, unveils a bat signal for Batman and mentions a new criminal that, like Batman, has a taste for the theatrical, leaving a Joker playing card at his crime scenes. That was great. Loved it. This is a great,

very natural lead-in to, like, you gotta see a little bit more of this. Yeah. Batman promises to investigate, and Gordon mentions that he forgot to thank Batman for his efforts. Batman replies by saying that he'll never have to

as he takes off into the night. Also, Batman in this movie flies much cooler than any other. He looks cool. And then the scene where he unleashes all those bats. Oh my God. That was amazing.

There's like 10,000 bats going crazy, crashing through the windows, terrorizing everybody. And then he flies through them like a cyclone. And it was so cool. I also love that scene.

This is early in the movie, but when he's in the bat cave and he disturbs the bats and they do the same thing and fly around him and he like rises from within the spiral. Oh my gosh, it was so powerful. Was this movie a cinematic masterpiece? I feel like it was.

I really, I feel pretty good about saying that. I truly, I was like, as I was watching, I was like, people who like love Batman and like loved like the 1989 one probably like went nuts for this. We're probably like, finally, we're being taken seriously. Or maybe they didn't like it because it was too serious. We honestly will find out. I don't know. Let's see.

We're going to find out with awards and receptions. Oh, I see. So Batman Begins ranked at the top in its opening weekend accumulating $48 million. The film's five-day gross

was $72.9 million, beating Batman Forever from 1995 as the franchise high. Oh, wait a minute. That's a travesty. It doesn't sound like enough money. No. Why didn't more people go?

I don't know. We've got to get in a time machine and see what the people were talking about. Yeah, what else came out? It holds 85% on Rotten Tomatoes, which I think is too low. Yeah, I think it should be 99. 99? This was a cinematic. Yeah, 100% fresh.

It's certain. Has been cited as one of the most influential films of the 2000s. On the film's 10th anniversary, Forbes published an article describing its lasting influence. Reboot became part of our modern vocabulary and superhero origin stories became increasingly en vogue for the genre. The phrase dark and gritty likewise joined the cinematic lexicon, influencing our perception of different approaches to storytelling, not only in the comic book film genre, but in all sorts of other genres as well.

Sure. This wasn't in our trivia for the last episode, but I read that Kevin Feige from Marvel said that Batman and Robin was one of the most important comic book movies ever made because it told everyone what not to do. Okay, wasn't sure where your sentence was going. I also think that

this movie was so influential because also it was this idea of taking a comic book story as seriously as you possibly could. Infusing it with so much such high stakes and so much drama and making it

serious. If the Joker, you know, as a villain, you anticipate him not being a goofy villain. You know he's going to be really, really scary. But now I want to see all the other villains like this. I want to see Poison Ivy like this. I want to see Catwoman like this. Penguin like I want to see Ivy like this I want to see a woman like this like penguin I'd love to see like

realistic like penguin yeah yeah I yeah I agree well I agree too so yeah and it's so funny because Joel Schumacher would scream before each take on Batman and Robin remember this is a cartoon yeah it told us so much funny that does which is so yeah and this is like truly the polar opposite yeah um time for trivia no way was I supposed to say that we could take it again yeah it's time for some trivia. No way, Mary. Sorry, sorry. Close enough. Okay. Contrary to the previous Batman movies

in which the Batcave was realized as a combination of a live set and matte paintings done either by hand or computer, no visual effects were used in this movie to show the Batcave. That's what I love. Me too. The entire Batcave is instead a massive full-scale set i love that

love that too and i feel like a difference i have not seen the barbie movie but i've heard a lot of people's compliments to it it's like they were actual sets and i'm like it's cool yeah let's just use sets practical effects are so they have they have so much more impact that's why i love so many like 80s movies like et andT. and stuff where it's an actual animatronic thing or whatever it is. Like Never Ending Story. Or the old Star Wars where I prefer when it's more practical.

Sorry. Not that I'll ever watch it again, but you get my point. Writer and director Christopher Nolan is reported, is this word wrong? Reputed. writer and director Christopher Nolan is reported rep is this word wrong

reputed oh my god I really can't read it's okay reputed to have been so fascinated with Cillian Murphy's bright blue eyes

that he kept trying to find reasons for him ways to have Crane remove his glasses honestly his eyes it was pretty effective like when he took off

the glasses to like lean in to say something more serious and then to put the mask on him and like do the little vapors. I was like, this is. He's really handsome in this really like sort of model-esque way. Yes. And a little like unsettling. Yeah.

Like it feels like he's like a guy up to no good. Yeah. His eyes are very chilling. Yeah. They're beautiful, but they're really icy. Yeah. And chilling. Yeah. I get it. Hey,'re really icy and chilling. Yeah.

I get it. Hey, Chris, I get it. I get why you did that, Mr. Nolan. On the set, the costumed Christian Bale constantly had two people

trailing him to keep the Batsuit smudge-free. Oh, wow. Can you imagine? No Doritos for lunch. I'm the de-smudger. While shooting on the streets of Chicago,

a person accidentally crashed into the Batmobile. Can you imagine? The driver was apparently drunk and said he hit the car in a state of panic, believing the Dark Knight's vehicle to be an invading alien spacecraft. That's crazy.

That's really funny, but truly imagine being hammered and seeing that and being like, I don't know. Yeah. I mean. I guess I'll just crash right into it. Yeah. What a wild drunk person. Yeah.

Because I've been on sets where we shoot in the street and there's a cop at either side. There's so many things blocking you from getting to that. And there's cones And there's things. Yeah, maybe they just crashed right through it all. They're like, aliens! That's wild. Yeah, that's nice. Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be back with more Batman Begins after this.

We're back and I want more trivia. I want to know more about this movie. I need more facts. Fill me up, Daddy. I want to know more about this movie. I need more facts. Fill me up, Daddy. I need to know more. Fill me up with facts. Holy Batman, Batman. Yeah. In this new segment,

now this is a really fun one, Mary. We're going to rate Christian Bale on the definitive newcomer's Batman scale. So we're going to use our phones with these little QR codes. Yes. And then we're going to rate Christian Bale on the definitive newcomers Batman scale so we're going to use our phones with these little QR codes and then we're going to fill out a form that tells us on a preparedness scale how prepared is this

Batman does he get to use his little gadgets and tools detective ability does this Batman get to be a little detective is he good at mystery solving voice gravelliness how gravelly is this Batman's voice? Sadness. How lonely, brooding emo is this Batman?

And finally, hotness slash horniness. How hot and or horny is this Batman? This is freaking cool. Yeah. So we'll take a moment. Everyone can do this. I mean. I don't know what to tell you that's why I left

oh I literally was doing the same thing but I gave a sadness okay did you rank? so this is great this has never happened holy Batman Batman preparedness 100% I mean Batman preparedness 100% I mean he was

100% prepared he was so prepared and we saw him getting prepared we understood how he got prepared it wasn't random detective ability

he was 100% detective able he was in there he was figuring shit out oh yeah he was asking questions he said let me align myself with the police

before I really get into it he had pictures for Katie Holmes. And he knew Ra's al Ghul's plan and how he could thwart it. Voice groveliness, 100%. This actually, everyone before has not been doing it. This is it. He did it.

This is a real distinction. Tell me. It made me horny. Also, I enjoyed that his bat cape no cap helmet yeah i don't know but it covered like the sides of his jowls like a little bit yeah i was like that's a little bit more uh like a of a disguise yes yeah his eyes had like makeup around like his eyes like around the eyes itself so it blended into the mask yeah it was really well done yeah and sadness i think everyone said 100 but i gave him 88 i didn't i feel like

he was sad more in the beginning i think he got a little less sad near the end i still think there's a sadness within yeah yeah oh yes that will never because i think in the end he's rejected by a woman he loves that's like like another. So true. I should give a hundred. But after she rejects him, they're holding hands, walking over the ruins. Yes. Towards Alfred. Because they're going to remain friends, but they know they can't be together because

his true love is fighting crime. I mean, go out to dinner. I would be okay with him leaving to go fight crime. Nicole. They can't have spaghetti. No. They can't have spaghetti. No, what if they lady and tramp? You're right. It's all over from there. Okay. to go fight crime. Nicole! They can't have spaghetti? No. They can't have spaghetti? Because,

well, what if they lady and tramp? You're right. It's all over from there. Okay, and then hotness, horniness, obviously 100%.

Is he married? I love Christian Bale. And interestingly, here's some trivia about this movie. I believe he met his wife on this movie because she was

Katie Holmes' assistant. Oh my word! It could happen to you! That's so nice. It could happen to you. That's like Megan Markle shit oh my god I love that

it's really really okay hold on I want to make sure I'm right about that but I think I am I even love Christian Bale in that Marvel movie where he's all ashy

I think it's the last Thor movie ugh I love Christian Bale in everything oh he's so good okay well this can't be true because they got married

in 2000 oh oh then then it's not true but I feel like he met her He's so good. Okay, well, this can't be true because they got married in 2000. Oh. Oh, then it's not true. But I feel like he met her. I feel like she was an assistant to some actress. She's a former model. Shoot. Where did I get this from?

I like what you're saying. She was an assistant to clothing. And they have two children. Two children? And they keep their life very private. I carry a picture of them with me all the time, he said in 2009. Oh, I They keep their life very private. I carry a picture of them with me all the time, he said in 2009.

Oh, I thought you were saying you do. I was like, oh, Lord. I do now. Wow. Okay, well, that was really fun. I wish I had just given it 100 because it would have been

better, but... Wait, his wife's name is sad enough for you. Yeah, yeah. Sibby. Yeah. Sibby. So we have a new segment

called Terry Killam's new segment. What? So she did work on Dark Knight Rises. So you're not wrong about that. But what? Later. Okay. She worked as Wynonna Ryder's personal assistant.

That's what it was. On Little Women. Yes. Little Women. Yes. And that's where they met. And she was previously a model, makeup artist, and became a stunt driver. I'm sweating.

I'm sweating right now. I would be sweating. But honestly, I love that. I'm so glad you found that. Got to the bottom of that. And that's actually even hotter because I need to re-watch Little Women. I love Little Women. I can't watch it without sobbing.

I haven't seen that one since it came out, I feel like. I've never seen the new one. He's so good. But he's so great. He's so great. He and Winona are so fun together. He's so funny. He's going to be a Christian Bale month here. You want to see a fancy free

Christian Bale. That's the movie to see. Does he dance? Really playful and fancy free. Yes. He does voices. Like Newsies. Like Newsies. Oh, wait. I haven't seen Newsies. This is Taryn Killham's new segment, How Did the Score Score? Okay, we obviously talked

about the music and score and soundtrack on previous few movies but decided to officially incorporate taryn's brilliant segment into our episodes from now on so we want to give one sentence opinion on the score or soundtrack of this film i really loved it i thought it really helped the tone and like the swelling of the music and then like it was like low at times i low at times. I really loved it. Loved it. Film scores are my favorite genre of music. What?

Because you like the Lord of the Rings? Yeah. You can say that. Let's just say. I love film scores so much. I listen to them as just on their own. There's so many composers I love film scores so much. I listen to them as just on their own music. There's so many composers I love.

I believe Hans Zimmer did this. From the Lion King fame? That's right. And he talks about, I watched a documentary about how he developed the score for Christopher Nolan's movies. And he only used two notes. And he was like, you know for the main like motif for batman and if you like watch it back it's just that oh yeah no no i mean it was very funny but like i got it but that's interesting that's like um it's jaws like exactly so it's like no matter like if

you draw it out a little bit but it still gives you like exactly like a like a full feeling of like fear yes fear and unsettled yes and like something's coming yes yes a dread or an anticipation or something i just learned that from my voice lessons. Wow. Are you singing a Jaws theme in your voice lessons? I'm just like... No, we were talking about musicality and singing something sad or singing something bright and happy and how the music follows it. It's this man named Doug

who's really incredible I love that if you want his info either of you want his info I'll give it to you I might at some point he's truly so nice and I love him

that's so cool okay it's time for five kapows time for reviews now we will once again this season be reading reviews from Letterboxd and then we will each

give the film a one sentence review ourselves and a star rating for anyone who reading reviews from Letterboxd, and then we will each give the film a one-sentence review ourselves and a star rating. For anyone who doesn't know, Letterboxd is a social platform where people can write reviews of films, and you can follow our show on Letterboxd at Newcomers. Do you use Letterboxd, Mary? Yeah. I'm on Letterboxd. You are? That's surprising. Are you active?

No. But I do follow some friends on there but it's really fun to see how people rate it we've talked about this for years and I've never been we have an active page ourselves that we have never seen I've never seen it

are we active on it? well because we always post what we said we do? well I assume we take notes on exactly your one sentence review and we post it for each movie. Sometimes I wonder

if I'll ever be smarter or like fully cognizant of what happens in my world. You don't need to know that. Your job is just to sit down and start talking about it. You come up with the review. You don't need to worry about putting it away. This is the sixth season of the show,

and I had no idea that what I'm saying is published. Oh, yeah. Other than audio. I've always assumed it is, but I've never looked into it. Boy. People must be like, she's dumb. We have amazing producers who do great things for us, who make us look like we're really

pulled together. And that's so awesome. You guys have 1,667 followers. We do? We do. Let's get them. And do people comment on what we say? Is there a feature on Letterboxd?

I don't know if you can. I don't think you can. People like your reviews. Oh, okay. Oh, I like that you can't comment on it. Me too. Me too. I think there should be less commenting.

I agree. All across the board online. Okay, so this is a four-star review from Rafi. Questioned whether Christian Bale was handsome. Final decision is yes. My roommate said, wee, every time he used the bat wings, and I would highly recommend doing that. That is fun.

So let's think of our one-sentence reviews for the film. Mary, you're included in this this and your star rating as well. Okay. I'm giving it five stars. Christian Bale as the definitive Batman. Yes. This Gotham City is the definitive Gotham City. Yes.

Everything in this is canon. Nothing else exists before this. Wow. One sentence. Yeah. Wow. One sentence. Yeah. That's one sentence. Oh boy. I love it.

Get those semicolons. You zeroed in on one point in the room and we were like this, this, this, this, this, this. You've done things with your face today that I wish I... You didn't even know it was possible. They didn't know. They didn't know, people. They'll stay with me.

I'll get them right before I go to sleep today. Remember how tiny your mouth got today. I'm going to look in the mirror later and try to do that. Okay, Mary, do you have a review? Yes. Guess what it is. Five stars. Yeah, baby.

I loved it. Yay, that's great. I love it. Okay, my star rating is also five stars. Yes. 15 stars. Yeah also five stars. Yes. 15 stars. Yeah, 15 stars. Did this ever happen?

I don't think it's ever happened. Has it ever happened on you? I don't think so. Me either. We've never loved something. No. And my review is loved Batman and Robin. Interesting sequel to it.

Christian Bale is my everything. All the boys in this were hot hot hot good stories love Morgan Freeman Alfred Yum Alfred Yum Alfred Yum Killian Murphy yum yum yum yummers and then the man who got that jacket I loved him

oh yeah he's good really great that was more than a sentence but you know so was mine And then the man who got that jacket. I loved him. Oh, yeah. He's great. Really great. That was more than a sentence, but, you know. So was mine. Now it's time for the best part of the show where we read reviews from people about our podcast. Yes. So we got five stars from Ophelia underscore titties. That's a good drag name.

Ophelia titties. Ophelia titties. Oh, uh-huh. Yeah. It's a great pun That I've never heard before I've never heard that That's great Yeah

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I think you need to get A job closer to your home Unless this is something That you love You can't be spending Three hours a day Yeah Traveling for work

I mean Can you do it on Zoom? Yeah, do it on Zoom. Okay. That's our advice. That's our advice segment where we tell reviewers things they should change about their lives. And that they didn't ask.

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Mary, thank you for being here. Thank you so much. Is there anything you would like to plug? I mean, check out the season of Newcomers. Wow. That's nice. It's so good. Thanks, Mary.

I'm going to say watch Mary in anything she's ever done. She's delightful and fun to watch and grounded and funny. Yeah. And just really wonderful.

Just a nice person all around. I agree. That means a lot. Thank you. You really are so funny and I'm so happy. Anytime you're on my TV, I'm like,

oh, bulletin board. I think that's the general consensus. Funniest. Oh, God. Thank you're on my TV, I'm like, oh, bulletproof. I think that's the general consensus. Funniest. Oh, God. Thank you. We'll be back next week with The Dark Knight.

Yeah! I mean, I think it did. Wait, do your goodbye like that. Goodbye. Newcomers is a production of HeadGum Studios. Our producer is Ali Khan. Our executive producer is Anya Konevskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and mastered by Faris Manji,

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