Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Star Wars: Ep. VIII - The Last Jedi (w/ Demi Adejuyigbe)

Episode Date: March 31, 2020

Comedian & Star Wars dork Demi Adejuyigbe (The Late Late Show with James Corden, Punch Up The Jam) joins us for the highly anticipated Star Wars episode, The Last Jedi. We talk about all ...the new cute alien species, secret guest stars, and overall wild horniness of the film. Plus, Demi pitches his BB-8 spinoff movie idea, and dispenses us with so much Star Wars trivia!Stay safe, and stay at home everybody!Sponsor:Helix Sleep: Get up to $200 dollars off all mattress orders and two free pillows at helixsleep.com/newcomers.Sources for this episode:The Last Jedi Film SummaryThe Last Jedi TriviaForbes ReviewThe Daily Beast ReviewThe Guardian ReviewSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. I've seen this raw strength only once before It didn't scare me enough then It does now Let the past die Kill it Let the past die. Kill it. If you have to. That's the only way to become what you were meant to be. We are the spark that'll light the fire
Starting point is 00:01:13 that'll burn the First Order down. Come on! This is not going to go the way you think. Fulfill your destiny. I need someone to show me my place in all this. We're doing another episode of Newcomers where we're watching Star Wars for the first time. We're all in separate rooms.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I'm Nicole Byer. I'm Lauren Lapkus, and you are floating in front of the Golden Gate Bridge. I am. I'm on vacation, baby. It looks so great up there. Thank you. It's insane how crystal clear the bridge looks
Starting point is 00:02:38 compared to how low quality you look in terms of the resolution. I look low quality? The video! Oh, I see. All right, this is off to a bad start for me. No, it's perfect. Today we're discussing Star Wars The Last Jedi.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Our guest is a comedian, writer on The Good Place and James Corden. He's the former host of Punch Up The Jam and the Gilmore Guys podcast. It's Demi Adijuibay. Hi. Is it right? You did.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Oh my God. I really felt nervous. No, it's good. It's unfair almost to have to say my name because Demi is so easy. And then Adijuibay feels like diving into the deep end. You nailed it. I thought it sounded good, but like also it's not my name. I felt confident, but then yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Okay. Well, we're so happy to have you here. And Marissa was just telling me that your quote unquote leaked footage of the Lando rap for Solo, a Star Wars movie went viral and I just watched it. And it's awesome. Thank you. And, and the rumor is that that earned you an invitation to the film's premiere. Is that true? It did.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yeah. I got to go to the solo premiere, but I think it also helped that I was also invited to go to the Force Awakens premiere. Oh, how did that happen? Yeah, how did that happen? I think it was just because Disney was trying to do some stuff with people through Vine,
Starting point is 00:03:57 so they invited a bunch of us to go, and they invited me and my friend Miel to go. And funny enough, I had seen exactly one star wars movie before that point but i was working at a place where all my co-workers are big star wars fans and i was like they're gonna hate me if i don't watch all the movies so i just watched all of the movies in like a weekend and then was like all right i've seen them now let's go to the premiere how was it watching them back to back it was i felt it was very weird like as a way to watch it for the first time because i just kept going oh yeah it's the thing yeah no yeah i've heard about this oh yeah i've heard about
Starting point is 00:04:31 that too yep this is the yep this that famous thing so it's just like reminding my brain of all the things i'd seen as like parodies on the simpsons or whatnot but it was good yeah we really relate to that i think we've been like been it's been kind of fun to finally see the context for the things that you've like just seen parodied and stuff forever and now you're like oh i get it now yeah okay it wasn't that confusing oh what a fun thing everyone's loved for years exactly had you so you've you obviously have seen the last jedi before did you re-watch it for this or are you going off your memory i re-watched it twice twice yeah i re-watched it once it's like a two and a half hour movie i know oh my god the like month that it came out i saw it three times uh and i remembered tweeting that's 450 hours that's too much time not 450 hours it's 450 minutes i don't know the math on that yeah that's right yeah uh okay yes wait that's way too much
Starting point is 00:05:27 time to spend watching this movie yeah i agree i agree but i also think that it has been i have not regretted a single minute of it i watched it last night for the podcast and then today i've been doing like a puzzle to keep myself sane in quarantine which is not really the activity of a sane person but i in the background was like i do puzzles for fun when we're not in quarantine i bought this puzzle before quarantine and then was like maybe now's the time oh i mean no uh very sane activity but then today i was doing the puzzle and was like i want to put on something in the background and i was like i got about two hours let's uh watch the director's commentary oh did the director's commentary let you in on anything you didn't know about the movie a few
Starting point is 00:06:14 different things yeah like a few little tidbits here and there uh some cameos and some uh reasons that he cast people and whatnot a lot of fun little details that I feel like most people would be like, oh, I don't care about that. But I was just like, ooh, nice. Well, let's give a little background to the movie. The movie was released December 15th, 2017. It was written and directed by Rian Johnson. Nicole, what did you, just right off the bat,
Starting point is 00:06:40 what did you think about this movie? Right off the bat, when Yoda appeared, I movie right off the bat when yoda appeared i screamed yoda and then i started crying but then i started i think i also did the same thing i cried because i said i love yoda and yoda is dead but i was so happy that we got to see yoda again and then i was like am i losing my mind that i just cried over yoda and then I was like am I losing my mind that I just cried over Yoda and then I was like I was truly really excited to see Yoda and I and it was the sign that I'm officially like a Star Wars dork like I was like I love him this is the movie that made me a Star Wars dork yeah this was the movie yeah see I liked Force Awakens better than this one this one felt a
Starting point is 00:07:26 little disjointed for me really also yeah you didn't think so there was like a lot going on i like that there's a lot going on i kind of agree and this one really is one of my favorites now i didn't hate it my favorite scene was Kylo Ren shirtless with the highest waisted pants I've ever seen in a galaxy
Starting point is 00:07:49 insane and his body is so broad I know he's built like a brick I was like oh boy
Starting point is 00:07:57 this is a very horny movie oh yeah well there's not enough kissing in this movie I think there was only like one kiss and it was kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah, there's a kiss at the end where you go, huh? Wait, huh? Yes. Yeah. Why did they do that? I don't know. All right. Well, let's walk through the plot a little bit here.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So shortly after the destruction of the Starkiller base, General Leo Organza leads the evacuation of the resistance forces when the First Order fleet arrives against Leia's orders. Poe Dameron leads a costly counterattack that destroys the First Order dreadnought. The remaining resistance escapes into hyperspace, but then the First Order uses a device to track them
Starting point is 00:08:40 and attacks them again. Kylo Ren hesitates to fire on the lead resistance ship after sensing his mother Leia's presence on board, but his wingmen destroy the bridge, killing most of the resistance leaders. Leia is dragged out into space, but survives using the force. While Leia recovers, Vice Admiral Hodo...
Starting point is 00:08:58 Hodo. That's not it? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold up. Hold up. hold up hold all assumes command of the resistance running low on fuel the remaining fleet is pursued by the first order okay now that took about an hour and a half just so we're on the same page sure did it took so long this movie
Starting point is 00:09:20 truly happens in real time and then when Leia was like dead in space, but then uses the force, I was like, this, this like franchise doesn't give a shit about killing people. Just kill Leia. No one, no one ever dies in this franchise.
Starting point is 00:09:33 If they die, they come back as a ghost. It's really just, do you want to get out of this or not? And if you want to come back at any time, you always have a space here. Oh my God. Yes. You're have a space here. Oh my God. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:45 You're always welcomed back. I liked when Leah was like in the like coma bubble. I thought that was kind of exciting. And the fact that her daughter is in the movie. Yeah. Yes. And she's got cute little, like little buns.
Starting point is 00:10:01 It was very cute. I thought that was nice. And they had all their scenes together apparently her dog is a cameo too really yeah as an alien in the casino planet i know a lot about this movie oh the dog the dog i don't remember seeing a dog it's like it's a small cameo it's like it's not like they focus on it and you're like oh there's the dog oh that's funny this i feel like that is a kind of fun thing about the franchise that they just like sneak in people's like relatives and i guess dogs now yeah this is like next level i was
Starting point is 00:10:30 listening to your force awakens episode and paul made the good point that it's just like how does anyone that isn't related to someone already on star wars get into star wars it's ridiculous yeah it's hard i did like seeing laura dern how did Laura Dern get it? Did she just say, hey, I like Star Wars, and they're like, put on this purple wig. Get in here. I think it's the law in Hollywood that you have to offer Laura Dern first or feels the rights on any role.
Starting point is 00:10:54 So she just said yes to this one. I love her. I was very excited to see her, too, but it kind of felt like she's too, like I'm so used to her being in normal movies that like it was kind of weird to see her in this. I was very much like that's Laura Dern. It like takes you out a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah. It's like casting Brad Pitt in Star Wars. You're like, come on. That's I know who that is. Yeah. Dying their hair purple isn't like, oh, new person. No. And it felt like when Laura Dern was talking to Le uh leah i was like this is the first day they
Starting point is 00:11:26 met it just felt like very like two actors acting in a scene yes i agree okay i'm gonna keep reading a little more of what happens in this movie okay okay on achto is that the name of that because i don't remember ever hearing the word i think it's act two i sorry i i also just listened to your force awakens episode, so I heard you guys say that repeatedly, and I was like, I'll mention it on the... Oh, my God. That's hysterical.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I honestly, I think the way that you pronounce them is great, though, because every name in Star Wars is fucking ridiculous. They're all just like... It's too many words. It's a misspelling. Poe Dameron is just someone misspelled cameron and said fuck it i feel like most of the words in star wars are like they put a bunch of letters in like a little
Starting point is 00:12:11 bucket shook it up and dropped the bucket and they're like that's the name of that planet absolutely it's like boggle oh yeah boggle on octu oh man it's more fun to say Ahch-To. Say Ahch-To then. It's more fun when Nicole says Snooki. That's true. Well, that's his name. Rey attempts to recruit Luke Skywalker to the Resistance. Under self-imposed exile, Luke refuses to help and says that the Jedi should end. After encouragement from R2-D2, he agrees to give Rey three lessons in the ways of the Force.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Rey and Kylo begin communicating through the Force, which puzzles them both. Kylo tells Rey that Luke feared his power. Luke confesses that he momentarily contemplated killing Kylo upon sensing that Snooki was corrupting him, which prompted Kylo to destroy Luke's new Jedi
Starting point is 00:13:00 order. Convinced that Kylo can be redeemed, Rey leaves Ahto. Luke prepares to burn the jedi library but hesitates the spirit of luke's master yoda appears and destroys the library by summoning a bolt of lightning and he encourages luke to learn from his failure this is where i got really into it isn't it weird that everyone's got a weird name and then someone just has the name luke i just can't get over that we are obsessed with that why it's i'm like his name is snoke and your name's ben yeah okay give make it like bon or something all of them should be names that i've never heard yeah bon solo i agree lack skywalker yeah but
Starting point is 00:13:37 don't you think it's weird that kylo ren chose kylo yes he chose it well or maybe snooki gave it to him but his name was ben's solo oh right well i got confused by the ben part because okay so in the movie someone goes like someone says ben and i was like oh and i said that's obi-wan because wasn't obi-wan ben ben kenobi yeah but i think he was named after he was named after obi-an by Hans and Leia. And then he went, I'm not Ben, I'm Ren now. Yeah, I'm Kylo Ren. What a weird name. Also, every time they spoke through the Force,
Starting point is 00:14:17 I was like, I'm getting horny. It's a horny name. It's sexy. That is where the horniness comes in yes absolutely that in the scene where laura dern is like dressing down poe and is like i've dealt with flabboas like you you're impulsive dangerous every time i watch i'm like they immediately fucked after this scene was done yes i agree and then i thought like okay kylo and ray are like in love like oh yeah something is happening between them
Starting point is 00:14:45 they're going to make out they're touching through the force they're getting past that social distancing yes they truly are they're breaking all the social distancing rules well i thought that they were really gonna kiss and then i thought she was gonna go to the dark side and i actually wanted her to because i thought that was gonna be cool yeah well she does kind of go to the dark side like when she gets her first lesson or whatever. And then Luke is like, you didn't even resist. And then later in the movie, she like dives into the dark side. And then there's like a hundred of her.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And I was like, I don't get this. Yeah, I don't understand it at all. But it's very cool. It is very, very cool. And you've seen it like eight times and you don't understand. So there's no hope for us. We'll never get it. I'm also like every time I watch it, there's a part where I'm like, oh, I understand this
Starting point is 00:15:28 now better. And I think it's just because part of me is just so focused on like the aesthetics of it. And another part of me is just like, I just listen to like different parts of it every time I watch the movie. Oh. Still my favorite one. Okay, wait.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I feel like we have to go back a little bit because I want to talk about Rose as well. Have we gotten into that? Rose. Rose yet? Has she come up? as well. Have we gotten into that? Rose. Oh, the best. She rules. I really liked Rose. She's the little one who then goes off with Finn? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah. Yes, I liked her and I remember people disliked her. Me too. And after watching the movie, I was like, how could you have disliked that cute, fun character who only wants to help? I didn't get that. I think they dislike her because they consider her character not very in the spirit of Star Wars and that she's just this like very she's a small part of this resistance and suddenly gets blown up to be a big part of it. And everyone's like, there are so many characters you should be focusing on the movie so long
Starting point is 00:16:16 you go to this dumb casino planet. And to me, I'm like, this is the first Star Wars movie that feels like they are taking into account the fact that it's a war. And I'm like, that's why she's cool. She's like,'s like no what are we doing here we shouldn't be doing this to kill people we're protecting people anyway I love her yeah I liked her character and I also now that you mentioned the casino I was I loved the casino I like the casino do you love the casino I loved the casino I thought every set piece in the casino was like so much fun. And then was that Justin Theroux at the table?
Starting point is 00:16:50 It sure was. Yes. I was like, what a weird cameo. Another weird cameo in the scene. That alien who calls them out for like parking in the wrong place. That's Joseph Gordon-Levitt. What? Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah. Wait, what did he look like? The one who was like brown like i'm trying to white robe he's the one who's like there they are get them oh that's him he has a cameo in every ryan johnson movie that's why oh that's literally bananas that's so wild nicole did you see the alien that had like 20 tits the one that was was like, it was like a lady with like all white, like orbs on her. And then she's just like a million tits.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Oh wait, we have to talk about when Luke drank the milk from the udders and it was all over his beard. I was like, this is sick. That was the sickest fucking shit I've ever seen. When he put that bottle up to the tit and then like drank it I was like what are you trying to prove
Starting point is 00:17:48 man this is sick I love it I think it's great Demi I thought it was absolutely sick when there was like green juice in his beard it really made me so upset but I think it's great because it's I think it's partially him trying to fuck with Ray and being like alright this is my life here if you
Starting point is 00:18:04 really want to stay you're going to see me drink green milk out this alien tit every day and then it's also partially like i think of it as like a paul bunion tale like he he's like in the scene before this he just stabs a giant fish after vaulting over a canyon carries it up the mountain and then he's like oh i also drink milk straight from the udder of the animal i'm just like you're just paul bunion wouldn't you get sick don't you need to like pasteurize milk first not if you're a real strong space man i actually i did like that montage where he was like doing all his like paul bunyan shit like that when he killed that huge first of all he drinks the milk then he takes like a spear ride over to the other side of a mountain he's like and then he just like kills a huge fish that's
Starting point is 00:18:45 like bigger than him it's so fun it was fun it was a lot to take in apparently they airlifted that thing into ireland just for that scene and i keep thinking about like the amount of work that goes into just like one because they just like made it practically and then we're like all right it was real yeah that's another thing They put so much work into these movies and they're like, all right, we're going to airlift this thing in and it's just going to be there for a single shot. But imagine sculpting that and being like,
Starting point is 00:19:10 all right, we got to get these teeth just right so that we can pump milk out of them and then Mark's going to drink the milk and it's all going to get in his beard and that's in the script. That's so weird. I also, I mean, it's later when Rey shoots the hole through her little hut and then
Starting point is 00:19:28 those little people were so mad at her i love those little aliens they were like the little mother theresa's yeah i love them and then when she like hit the rock and the rock fell on their little wagon and they were so upset i loved them they. They were so funny. I'm on their side. She comes to their island and fuck up their shit. Come on. I thought this movie had like a lot of good
Starting point is 00:19:50 like practical effects. It felt like they were a lot more real looking aliens or at least puppet looking which I liked. Yeah. I agree. So more into this.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Meanwhile. Yes. Poe entrusts Finn, Mechanic Rose. Her name is Mechanic Rose, and BB-8 Ball with a secret mission to deactivate the First Order's tracking device. Maz Katana directs them to
Starting point is 00:20:12 a casino town. And Maz is like in a war of her own. Yeah. She is flipping around. She's shooting people. They got spinoffs and spinoffs. That's Lupita's character. Oh, I love her. She's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.'s uh lupita's character oh i love her i love her yeah yeah nigerian representation she's adorable and i love those little goggles that don't have a bridge
Starting point is 00:20:30 where she can i love that i love it coming from the side yeah yeah that's so cute there's a line she says in the force awakens where she just says where's my boyfriend in relation to chewy and it makes me laugh every time that is cute so they go to canto bite uh where they meet the hacker dj pursued by local security they escape the city with the help of stable hand children and racing animals they set free finn rose and dj infiltrate snooki's flagship but they're captured by captain plasma and then kylo brings ray to snooki who reveals that he connected their minds to discover luke's whereabouts who's kept oh dj is dj's benicio del toro oh yeah who looked very good yeah there were there were points in which i was like they're trying so hard to make him not look
Starting point is 00:21:17 good and it's not working oh he like shaved his eyebrows like halfway i think they were kind of weird but i was he is a hot man he did have a weird stutter that came and left, I felt like. Like sometimes he had it, sometimes he didn't. It was a weird choice. He's like a cartoon character, which I think is why I like him. He's weird. When DJ turns, I was like not surprised. I was like, he's a shady person.
Starting point is 00:21:41 You didn't know him. I wasn't really invested in him being a good person. So when he turned, I was like, oh, who cares? He's also like the only character that does that, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:21:51 in the entire franchise. The closest is Lando, but then he's like actually a good guy the whole time and like DJ's just gone. So it's just like seeing a morally gray character
Starting point is 00:22:01 in a Star Wars movie felt weird to me, but I think I like it. Well I also felt like DJ comes into play like pretty late in the movie and I sort of was like I'm not getting invested in him. I just like didn't really pay attention. Nicole
Starting point is 00:22:16 I was going to say I just learned that I taught you how to say I taught you the wrong way how to say Donal Gleeson. Yeah Donal Gleeson yeah Donal Gleeson I was saying Donal anyway it's wrong now we know
Starting point is 00:22:32 and now we can speak about him with reverence Donal it sounds like we have an accent when we say it how did y'all feel about Donal in this movie well we love Donal we love him so much but i will say they put more red around his eyes i think to make him less attractive and i was like you can't make him less attractive to me i agree he's so cute i hate his hair in these movies and i think he they make him
Starting point is 00:23:00 as ugly as he can be but it's still still hot. Yes. He's very hot. Honestly, I would be part of the, what is it, the First Order just to be near him. It would be fun. Interesting. You join the Nazis for the hot Nazi. Interesting. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:18 It's that easy. Okay. I'm going to read our next part here. Hold Doe plans to evacuate the remaining members of the resistance using small transport vessels. Believing her plan to be cowardly and futile, Poe leads a mutiny. Leia recovers and stuns Poe with a blaster, allowing the evacuation to proceed. Holdo remains aboard the ship as a decoy to mislead Snooki's fleet as the others flee to an abandoned base on Crait. DJ buys his freedom by revealing the Resistance's plan
Starting point is 00:23:48 to General Hux, and the First Order fleet begins firing on the evacuation transports, destroying many. They should have just called her, like, Dora Learn or something. Just lean into it. Dora Learn. I know. Is her name, is she Holdo? Holdo.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah, she's Holdo. Yes. She looks amazing in this photo we have in our little character sheet here. Also, I like the evil BB-8 ball. Yeah. BB-9E. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I liked that little evil one. They don't focus enough on the evil one. No, and I want it more. I know. Also, BB-8 ball did a lot in this movie. BB-8 ball was like a full-on character. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:24 And I was like like you didn't need the people bb8ball could just do it himself i think they should go full wally with a spinoff and just give us a bb8 falling in love spinoff yes i would absolutely watch i would love that i think bb8ball had a lot of great moments like when he was on top of the uh like monster claw machine and like drove it in that was an epic moment yeah how'd you guys feel about the porgs i love the pork they're great wait were the porgs the little thing that chewy was going to yeah but then didn't eat oh they're fun they're the best i love them so much i'm obsessed with them i want porgs merch i remember being in the theater and just being like hmm i
Starting point is 00:25:03 don't know about this and then the pork Porgs showed up. I was like, like, they're delightful. The Porgs are amazing. The crystal critters, whatever they were calling them, are also amazing. I liked them. There were a lot of cute things. Apparently they came up with Porgs.
Starting point is 00:25:19 They came up with Porgs because the island they were shooting on had so many fucking ducks and they were like, we can't get these out of the way. So they they were like what if we create a creature that looks like them that we can cgo for some of them really yeah that's funny i love that i love that and i love that well see that's also the kind of creativity that i think some of these movies were lacking like i think this movie had a lot of things that i thought were really artistic like cool choices like where the sand turns red when you like touch it or whatever. Like there were a lot of cool things that just felt really real, but also like something I've never seen before. And some of the previous ones we felt
Starting point is 00:25:53 were just so CGI and so fake looking that it was like, it's not even interesting. Like this felt like it had a lot of like practical things that were really cool. I agree. And before we get into the rest of the movie, we got to take a break. If you're wondering what a Nord VPN is, I'll tell you. VPN stands for Virtual Private Network, a service that protects your internet connection and online privacy. A VPN creates an encrypted tunnel for your data, protect your online identity by hiding your IP
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Starting point is 00:27:24 Ordered to kill Ray, Kylo instead kills snooki this gagged me the little lightsaber yes and went right through him i was like oh wait this is i loved it so then um he defeats the prey at prey atoran guards with uh with ray's help and then ray hopes kylo has abandoned the dark side but instead he asks her to rule the galaxy with him much like anakin does with uh obi-wan is that he tells uh he tells natalie portman to come with him but then he also tells uh padme he tells padme to come with him but then he also tells ewan mcgregor that like we can rule together or whatever and ewan mcgregor is like what the fuck is this in revenge of the sith this is the third one okay right before he gets all burnt up that was the first star wars movie i ever saw but i still have not seen the first the episode one and
Starting point is 00:28:19 two because i was just like i don't care ah yeah. I think it's worth it because. Everyone says they're bad and I'm like, okay, then I'll skip them. I think it's worth it. Well, Nicole found a lot to love in some of those movies. I love Jar Jar Binks. Jar Jar Binks is an incredible character. I think Jar Jar is fun. Me too.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So you'll like the movies. I bet I will. is fun me too so you'll like the movies i bet i will so refusing she battles him for control of luke's light luke's lightsaber bisecting the weapon holdo sacrifices herself by slicing through snicky's flagship at light speed crippling the first order so cool it was very cool yeah that was cool sitting in the theater during that moment like you could hear a pin drop the silence is so good this movie uses like silence very well yes yeah so then ray escapes the destruction while kylo declares himself supreme leader bb eight ball frees finn and rose and then they defeat Plasma? Phasma? Phasma. And join the survivors. Oh, Phasma. No, Phasma it is now. I like Phasma. Phasma.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And they join the survivors on Crait. Then the First Order arrives. Poe, Finn, and Rose attack the obsolete speeders. Rey and Chewbacca draw the TIE fighters away from the Millennium Falcon. While Rose stops Finn from sacrificing himself, the First Order penetrates the resistance fortress using a siege cannon luke appears and confronts the first order allowing the surviving resistance to escape which was that was an exciting part but i also was like really happy
Starting point is 00:29:54 that poe or whatever understood that's what was happening because he's like no no he's stalling for us he's helping us that was lucky okay it was very lucky i think that scene is my favorite scene in all of the star wars movies like it's just such a good fight it's a great scene yeah while luke is out there and kylo's in the thing and then he's like all of the guns on him and he's like more more and he's like shaking i couldn't stop laughing that was insane that was insane he's just a moody little boy yeah and then luke gets he's not dead which was like amazing well we find out that he was using the force from a mountaintop and he wasn't even really even there the way that first like gun hits him and then explodes in a cloud of dust and what looks like blood i was like jesus
Starting point is 00:30:42 i thought it was just like him exploding i was like what the fuck are they doing i know i was like we you got it man calm down oh my god okay kylo orders the first orders forces to fire on luke but they fail to harm him he then engages luke in a lightsaber duel upon striking luke kyle kylo realizes that luke is not physically present but projecting his image through the force. Rey helps the remaining Resistance escape on the Falcon. An exhausted Luke dies peacefully on Ach-two-two-be- becoming one with the Force. Rey and Leia sense his death, and Leia tells Rey that the Resistance can rise again.
Starting point is 00:31:17 At Canto Bight, the stable hands recount the story of Luke Skywalker. Afterward, one of them moves a broom with the Force and gazes into space. Oh, he moved it with the Force? I didn't had to like really be watching it and in that moment i was crying i don't know why but i was just like oh it's so beautiful and then i was like oh no that little boy is a youngling and it's gonna be a jedi and i was like oh jedi aren't dead i feel like i i i got that he was a jedi but i didn't i didn't get why i guess just because he
Starting point is 00:31:45 had that ring on but i didn't realize he was moving the broom with the force it was such a slight thing that it makes you go oh huh what but i think it's just supposed to be like a symbol of it like oh there's more than like the jedi aren't done with ray even it's like they're a jedi throughout the galaxy anyone can be a jedi who is this boy? Who gives a shit? But then I was like, is Rey going to be like a Jedi master? Is she going to like lead the new Jedi regime? I guess you'll just have to see in the next, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:32:15 What did you think about those big horses things or whatever those were? I loved those big horses. I thought they were so much fun. And then when they were running through the town with like the lights and stuff and they're like too much cover like i i thought it was very exciting very fun and then i like that they got set free at the end yeah me too that was really cute also here's some trivia yeah so although disney decided to not use ge Lucas' story outlines for episode, what is this, seven and eight?
Starting point is 00:32:46 I don't know. These V11, V111, and 1X. Oh, this is episode Vi. Vi, V, and X. Vi, V, and X. After purchasing his company, a couple of Lucas' ideas surfaced in this film, including Skywalker living as a recluse and training a female Jedi.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Oh, so that was his idea. It's kind of interesting. What an ally. I like that. I gotta say, I did enjoy that there was so many. I like that there was more women. Yeah. This one had like the most.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I agree. And they're all important, it seems. Yeah. And like different types of women. Like I thought like Rose compared to like Laura Dern's character. Like they all had different like yeah and like different types of women like i thought like rose compared to like laura durn's character like they all had different like strengths and durn's you got maz kanata you got an alien lady you got a lady in a big metal suit uh plasma wait plasma's a woman yeah oh wait i didn't get that it's gwendoline christie from game of thrones i've never seen a
Starting point is 00:33:43 game what a waste of a casting IMO. She is very tall. I thought it was a guy. No. I didn't know. Did they talk? Yeah. Yes, they did talk.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I guess I did know it was a woman. I guess I didn't really pay close enough attention to the words. You don't see gender. It's fine. Yeah, it's true. Okay. After reading the script for the film, Mark Hamill told writer-director Rian Johnson, I pretty much fundamentally disagree
Starting point is 00:34:06 with every choice you've made for Luke Skywalker. Now, having said that, I've gotten it off my chest, and my job now is to take what you've created and do my best to realize your vision. Despite the ultimately divisive response among fans following the film's release, Hamill later said in a statement that he had maintained respect for Johnson
Starting point is 00:34:23 as well as episode V-X director J.J. Abrams. Vix. Fair. I wonder what direction he wanted to go in. I think a lot of people when this movie came out were just like, that's not Luke. Luke would never be a pussy who just like lives on an island and who accidentally like thinks about killing his grandson. And I feel like that's such a dumb thing to say, because the whole point is that he made that mistake and is like, yeah, that's not who I should be. And this movie is about him realizing that he shouldn't be doing that. But I don't know. I think a lot of people also just wanted him to be like a badass lightsaber wielding like master but i almost think that's too simple like i liked this storyline and that he had like an emotional journey that he's been going on
Starting point is 00:35:12 and thinking about him like starting this whole different life on this island and stuff it was like more interesting i agree i thought it was more interesting too so then when he like finally becomes one with the force i was like wow like it meant something to me because i was like he did make a mistake during training he did you know scare kylo into you know fully going all the way to the dark side um and then also kylo just like his grandpa killed younglings yep off screen just saying fuck it yeah he just killed some younglings and took some to the dark side with him and i was like i like i like a lot of the a lot of these movies are second beats of things that happen in the original three
Starting point is 00:35:51 and i like that yeah i like that too well it's also making it more fun to watch these like i think i was it paul i think on the last episode maybe he was saying like people like some of the complaints are sometimes that it feels like they're remaking some of the first movies with just like new characters and but i like that because it's like we were bored by the first one and now it's fun and action-packed and like similar storylines but i can follow it and i like all the people this one doesn't feel like a remake of any of them to me which is maybe why i think i like it the most that it takes little pieces that you're like oh that's kind of like this thing in the original, but then it goes very far
Starting point is 00:36:28 different directions with it. Yeah, I feel like that's why this one's more successful, because it seems just more creative. It feels like they just kind of used the world and spanned out a little bit, which is kind of fun. I feel like it was I liked that there were so many random things
Starting point is 00:36:44 happening in this movie, and different things that you're following and exciting little moments. Another piece of trivia is Carrie Fisher was also a well-known writer whose services were also often called upon to act as a script doctor for other films. She began declining such assignments when producers would solicit her story ideas, then hire someone else to actually change the script and use Fisher's ideas without paying her. director ryan johnson revealed that fisher helped with the writing of the script for this film i love that that's cool why would people take her ideas and not pay her she's like so awesome i don't know i don't know i think it i don't i don't people hate women yeah that's i forgot. That might be it.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Okay, I had heard this before. This is a funny one. When filming, Laura Dern said pew pew every time she shot her blaster. Although not audible, one such instance even made it into the finished film. It can be noticed in the close-up shot when Holdo is stunning her opponents. I want to go back and look at that. Oh, I do too. That is so funny. Pew pew, that is so funny i do the same thing probably if you're shooting and you can't hear the gun sounds i'd be like all right let's i want
Starting point is 00:37:52 to i need this that's very funny i actually recently had to shoot something shoot somebody in something where i'm like shooting like five people like and i kept going and it was very dumb and i i think that might be where I learned that she said pew, but that's, it's hard to stop yourself. Carrie Fisher ad libbed the line. I changed my hair, which was a cute joke.
Starting point is 00:38:15 She's so fucking fun. She's so awesome. She's great. These movies really made me like appreciate her. I, I, I started liking her a lot recently because she was on Catastrophe
Starting point is 00:38:28 as the mom of Rob Delaney's character, I think. And she's really great on that. And I was like, oh, she's so funny. And then she's in When Harry Met Sally and she's really funny in that. But I only knew her from those things, which is stupid because she's obviously so famous for these movies.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I didn't know. I'm starting to appreciate that. I knew of her through Star Wars, but then also knew she was like a famous for these movies. I didn't know. I'm starting to appreciate that. I knew of her through Star Wars, but then also knew she was like a very famous script doctor. And then I was like, oh, what has she written? And it's like, oh, she was like the go-to person to bring in and write like comedy in like through the 80s and the 70s
Starting point is 00:38:59 and like wrote on like I think the Blues Brothers and a bunch of other stuff. And I'm just like, oh, what the fuck? Why have we been just using her for such limited use of Carrie Fisher? Yeah. She also, if you look up interviews with her, she's just so smart. So, yeah. So smart.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And she's so quick, which is like, I love watching a person be able to like hold their own and be so funny. I thoroughly enjoy her. It's great. Yeah. Here's another trivia. The three resistance fighters who pop up from the trenches on Crate are Mark Hamill's children. More people just related to people in the movie getting into the movie. I think in either this one or in The Force Awakens,
Starting point is 00:39:46 Tom Hardy has a cameo as a stormtrooper. Really? Yeah. Wait, who? In a deleted scene, Tom Hardy has a cameo in Star Wars. Yeah, let me see. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yep, it's in The Last Jedi. That's so crazy. They deleted the scene, and I'm like, good, because no one wants to be like, is that Tom Hardy? But. Right? Yeah. Oh, to be famous enough to just go can I be in Star Wars and they go yeah that's what we're trying to do
Starting point is 00:40:11 I mean that's how um Samuel L Jackson got into it yeah yeah they make more Star Wars movies also in the casino scene I was so excited there were so many black people and there were a lot of black people in the casino they put us all in the in the scum the rich people they're just like here's the place where all the awful one percenter piece of shit are i was happy i was like we got something in the future that's how you know it's a fantasy uh johnson says he held on to the joke with hucks at the beginning of the movie feeling that he needed to break the ice and tell the audience up front that it was going to be okay to laugh in this movie he likens the tone of the scene to a monty python sketch what part are they talking about the part where he calls them and it's like i got a message for general hugs oh that made me a lot of people hate that scene i'm just like why it's fun
Starting point is 00:41:06 i thought it was funny and i was like oh even in the future we can't hear each other it's fun but then it was just like a bit to buy time and i was like it's a smart funny bit and i thought it worked with the movie uh let's see some of these reviews from the time when this movie came out todd mccarthy from the hollywood reporter says Star Wars The Force Awakens pumps new energy and life into a hollowed franchise in a way that both resurrects old pleasures and points in promising new directions. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I agree too. Some of the negative reviews, entertainment editor Marlo Stern from The Daily Beast suggested people skip The Last Jedi. He stated, Director Rian Johnson's follow-up to The Force Awakens felt overstuffed and incredibly disjointed, a collection of uncorrelated rah-rah scenes and little else.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I also kind of agree with that, but I did enjoy the movie. That's kind of what I liked about it, yeah. Kyle Smith from the National Review said, so many elements in episode V111 are recycled and could have been called rerun of the Jedi on Rotten Tomatoes the rating from
Starting point is 00:42:09 critics is 91% but the audience score is 43% oh interesting I'm really surprised people don't like it but see we're always quote unquote wrong with our opinions we are very very wrong this is very much a movie that made the audience like it was like the people
Starting point is 00:42:26 who hated it really really hated it and the people who liked it really really liked it and feels like there's not a lot of middle ground which i i don't love because it just feels like now everyone's like opinion of this film is weirdly political and it's just like no you can just be like yeah that was nice or no i didn't like it but yeah it's a it's a weird like this movie it's not like like none of the other ones really feel like a battleground yeah i feel like i really like this movie but if it was one hour shorter i would have loved it correct yeah i thought it was like slightly too long but i i did like it i liked it a lot i think i maybe wanted even more of luke giving ray jedi training yeah oh yeah right like i don't think she got enough yeah and that was kind of the most exciting like part i liked that it was
Starting point is 00:43:20 like a female character that was getting that sort of moment and and she And you could tell like she was going to be really good at it. And he didn't really expect that or whatever. And then she's so awesome. And I like that whole storyline with her character. Especially considering I feel like in the previous movie with her, I didn't really care about her that much. But I felt like she became important to me in this one. Yeah, I felt like they gave her a little bit more to do in this movie. I liked her character much better in this one yeah i felt like they gave her a little bit more to do in this movie i thought like i liked her character much better in this one yeah i also like that they basically go
Starting point is 00:43:50 uh yeah you're not really related to anyone who gives a shit about your parents let's move on yeah yes because i spent the last two movies being like who the fuck is she who is she who are her parents who are they and then the movie was like nobody get over it and i said okay should we read some nice reviews that people have given us oh my god yes if you guys are enjoying the show please review the podcast on apple podcasts and we like to read some of these nice ones you want to read the first one? Yes. This one is entitled On Point. I watched the three originals for the first time with my husband about 15 years ago. They had to laugh because John G. sounds exactly like my hubby.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I guess Gemberling or have we had Gabrus too? Yeah. So we don't know which one she's talking about. John G. I was grateful to watch them with a fan because I have the same thousand questions. I even consider myself a fan, but these ladies were on point about so much of the movies. And the fact they watched all of the second one is amazing. Unless you're a person that thinks Star Wars can do no wrong, I think you'll enjoy this podcast.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Thank you, Viva the Block. That was very nice. Okay, this one's titled those aliens can get it nicole and lauren offer new perspectives about star wars i didn't know i needed i'm a lifelong fan but often feel shut out by the intense fans mansplaining uh fan slash mansplaining that happens around star wars this podcast makes me laugh remember why i love these movies and helps me to remember to not take them too seriously also nicole and lauren are hilarious and smart beautiful angels who also want to bone some aliens that's so nice that was from cosmic fam and i loved it we have wanted to uh have sexual intercourse with many aliens in these
Starting point is 00:45:35 movies yes many many many um demi is there anything you want to plug while you're here i no nope i got nothing no one's got anything no one's doing anything uh i'm at home well do while you're here? I, no. Nope. I got nothing. No one's got anything. No one's doing anything. I'm at home. Well, do you have social media? Do you want to tell them about your Instagram,
Starting point is 00:45:52 your Twitter? I'm at ElectroLemon on Twitter and Instagram. And yeah, follow me there if you liked what I said here. And even if you didn't, because then I won't be talking about Star Wars on those things. And you can be like, hey, because then I won't be talking about Star Wars on those
Starting point is 00:46:05 things and you can be like hey I like that he doesn't talk about Star Wars here so that yes and you should go you guys should go look up Demi's Lando rap it's really great that was so awesome it's thank you I really enjoyed making Lauren I'm very impressed by your skills thank you
Starting point is 00:46:21 what'd you say Nicole no I was cutting you off to be like Lauren what would you like to promote but you say, Nicole? No, I was cutting you off to be like, Lauren, what would you like to promote? But you were still promoting yourself. So then I was like, be quiet, Nicole. So I was being quiet.
Starting point is 00:46:33 But now, Lauren, do you have anything you want to promote? Yeah, I want to plug my Patreon, patreon.com slash Lauren Lapkus. If you sign up, you can join along for all the fun I've been having there. I've been doing improv episodes and conversations with friends. I even did a solo
Starting point is 00:46:51 episode. And as a special bonus treat for all the newcomers listeners out there, I recorded a watch along for this movie. So if you want to watch the movie and hear me and my husband talk over it the entire time, then sync it up from my Patreon. But that's all I have going on right now as I wait for the world to begin again. So it's going to be a lot of recording from home. Interesting. I am very intrigued as to what you will think about The Rise of Skywalker. Yeah, apparently people did not like Rise of Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah. Which means i will probably love it right i know nicole what do you want to promote well i wrote a book it's called hashtag very fat hashtag very brave the fat girl's guide to being brave and not a down in the dumps weeping fat girl mediocre fat girl in a bikini that is out june 2nd it was supposed to come out in may but corona delayed it. Corona. I have another podcast, Why Won't You Date Me?
Starting point is 00:47:48 Best Friends with Shira Zameda, and then a Patreon with Marcy Jarreau, where we watch 90 Day Fiance, one of the best television shows in the history of television, and then Nailed It comes back April 1st on Netflix. Oh, and everyone should watch Good Girls. I'm coming into the season soon.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I come in episode eight this season and I'm very excited about that. So it's on NBC. Oh, also watch Star Wars The Last Jedi. Well, that's it for us. Oh my God, Demi, thank you for doing this with us. Thank you for having me. Yes, thank you so much, Demi.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I wish I could be in a studio with you guys doing this, but we gotta stay safe. We have to social distance, stay home, flatten the curve. If you don't buy into flattening the curve and staying home, truly read just a couple articles about it on the Internet. And if you're not into reading, just do it because it's cool. All the cool kids are doing it. Everyone's at home. It's true.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Because all the people who are staying at home right now in a couple months are be like damn you stayed at home that's that's pretty cool man i don't know where this riff is going you actually sound very similar to uh the matthew mcconaughey video he posted today of explaining flattening the curve he basically was just like i'm gonna do it to protect my family and in turn i'll protect your family and if you protect your family in it to protect my family. And in turn, I'll protect your family. And if you protect your family, in turn, you protect my family. So let's just do it. Let's stay home. We're going to all be all right, all right, all right. I mean, whatever it fucking takes.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It's so wild that people are still outside. Stay inside. What's even outside to do now? I don't know. And I was walking around like for a walk in the sun yesterday. And people just are around and they don't they don't seem to be social distancing i just think it's a little scary i want everyone to just stay away from me and each other uh-huh yep all right well this was very fun and yes yes yes see you
Starting point is 00:49:36 next week see you next week that was a hate gun podcast

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