Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - The Family That Preys (w/ Jacquis Neal)

Episode Date: March 30, 2021

Actor, comedian, and podcaster Jacquis Neal (The Cast with Rae & Jacquis, Culture Kings) joins Lauren and Nicole to examine a Tyler Perry family melodrama–The Family That Preys (2008). Follow Jacquis on Twitter and Instagram, and check out his podcast The Cast with Rae & Jacquis!Next week’s watchlist: Why Did I Get Married (2007)Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and let us know what Tyler Perry hit they should check out next.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Tyler Perry, and Kathy Bates. Let me tell you, my family has been known to pray on the week. Tyler Perry's The Family That Prays. All right. Well, I'm Nicole Byer. I'm Lauren Lapkus. This is our third episode of the third season. We are working our way through Tyler Perry's body of work for the very first time

with the help of Perry scholars, super fans, and sometimes people who've contributed. This season will be 10 episodes, so we're not going to get to everything. But we might want to. But today, we can say that we have experienced a Tyler Perry family melodrama, The Family That Preys, which came out in 2008. And we'll be revisiting more movies and TV shows in the weeks to come. But if you want to watch The Family That Preys, it's available on DVD and for a fee on Amazon, Apple TV, plus Google Play and Vudu.

So obviously we're going to have spoilers here. So watch ahead if you want to watch. And if not, you can just listen to us talk about it and we'll explain the whole film to you. But before we bring our guest out, Nicole, how did you feel about The the family that prays wow okay the family that prays was was interesting in a way where like I was happy to finish it I was like I gotta see where this goes totally um there was like little storylines that I, that didn't have a payoff,

but I didn't mind. Same. The family, everyone was so mean to each other. Some of the meanness is, oh my God, some of the slaps, there's a slap that is,

that rocks the world. And then there's, there's, then there's like a, a like fight where someone almost falls off a building. Like it's like yep really crazy yep i watched it at 9 a.m i was like i was awake and i was like i gotta do my my tyler perry homework i'm gonna put it on it was a great morning i watched this movie the the twists and turns

i thought that something i thought more of a get out sort of thing was going to be happening same and then that didn't happen so then that was kind of weird like i don't know there's just so many there's so much happening there's so many storylines there't happen. So then that was kind of weird. Like, I don't know. There's just so many, there's so much happening. There's so many storylines. There's like, it's like you kind of add all this subtext to everything as you're watching it because there's so much going on that you're like, oh, this must mean this and this guy's doing this. And then that's never true. And then it's kind of like. Yeah, I will say this. Tyler Perry truly doesn't really let the audience get ahead of him because he's gonna throw a curveball and this man Nick who you meet who you don't know who he is oh boy what a reveal at the end I thought he was gonna be an angel I thought he was gonna be an

angel I literally was like okay they're saying he's like sometimes angels are hiding in people that you don't expect I was like that's an angel. And then he just wasn't anything. I was like, he was some guy. He was truly nothing. I loved it. Well, should we bring our guest out and get into this? Okay, we're very excited for our guest today. Our guest is Jacquees Neal.

Jacquees is an actor, comedian, and podcaster who has appeared in Liza on Demand and Bless This Mess. And Jockeys co-hosted the long-running wonderful podcast Culture Kings. He currently co-hosts the cast with Ray and Jockeys, which I really need to listen to. I want to hear more about that. It's on HeadGum with Ray Sani. Welcome, Jockeys. We're very excited to have you here.

What's up? What's up? Thank you so much for being here. Oh, my gosh. First and foremost, what did you think about the movie? Oh, my gosh. My first thought, I said this to y'all, you know, before we started recording. My first thought after watching this movie was, I need to watch Mortis do stuff, man.

Because what a goddamn ride. First of all, it was five different movies in one. And I loved all five of them. Yes and i loved all five of them yes i loved all five of the movies and i don't know what the movie is really about because the play yeah i don't know what the point was no because the whole kathy bates the kathy bates storyline is like a whole different world it's a whole different movie. It's a whole different movie. Yes. I'm just like, all right, is this like a, a, a, like a,

a woman who's about to die and realizes that she's in love with her friend. It's like a lesbian love story. Yes. There was lesbian undertone. There was something happening there. There's something happening here. Yeah. And then,

but then it's also like a Southern, uh, like family drama between Kathy Bates and her son and shit i'm like what is this and also the play on words makes no sense ain't nobody praying in this damn movie that's why i i truly thought that someone i thought that like the white people were like stealing souls or doing something because they seemed so evil at the beginning yeah and i was like they're preying on people and then they didn't do anything i i i don't know i don't know i don't know but it seemed as if it was like the family preys on itself and takes care of another family but then preys on one

member of the other family it felt like he liked the title and he was like that's just the title that's just the title he he he he created the title before he wrote the movie and was like i'm not changing this shit i wrote this in 26 hours and i'm not changing this movie i never found a way to connect the title and i don't care also can, can I just say, first of all, let me get this out here. I'm a huge Sonalathan. I always mispronounce her last name.

Sonalathan, I think. Sonalathan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's Sonalathan. See, I be pronouncing her name wrong. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Queen. I apologize. I'm a huge fan of hers. How can I be a huge fan and I can't even pronounce her name? Love and Basketball is one of my favorite.

I know, it's terrible. It's one of my favorite movies. It's so good that she could never be in anything and make me not like her until I saw this damn movie. I've never not liked a person. She is the meanest fucking person but to the point she's so mean that when she gets slapped so hard she tosses over a countertop she flew i think at that point you're supposed to be like yeah you deserved it but i still was like no i know i couldn't believe that the chris was hitting her like that i was like he has already established he's a good person but he can be put he's pushed to a limit so then i was like okay so then he's

gonna get pushed at some point to some point that he can't they'll return but then he he slaps her so hard in front of everyone that she flies over a diner counter like a slap can't even do that like her head rocketed her over the counter i don't understand lauren he slapped her so hard she gave him 286 000 yep she sure did she sure did that was the resolution for anyone listening she literally did that that is what happened she goes i'll get more she caught air and was like, take all my money. That was the craziest thing. I was like, why are you giving it to him?

She's like, I don't even care. I'm like, he's the other guy's not that rich. Like you want to have the money. I don't understand. You want to have something. And then she reveals that her,

his child's not even his child. Oh my God. I mean, whose face? I don't think we even saw, right? Like the kid was sitting at the counter at one point. We see him at the end where she's in this,

like, I think it's supposed to be like a motel room but it's definitely like the entrance to an office building and she's living in the office where she used to work that's what it seemed like like she was living at her new job and then well and then the guy that she was having the affair with is like she's like we have a son together and he was like do we do we and then it's like well do you yeah i said do we and that's where they left it i was like hmm do we? Do we? And then it's like, well, do you? Yeah. When he said do we, and that's where they left it, I was like, hmm. And I was like, okay, so she's not resolved. She's not getting any help from him, I guess, is how that's going.

She was getting help from Chris. The Chris, after he's like, listen, I'm the same way. I'm rooting for this guy. And then he slaps the hell out of her. And my mouth just drops for like a full five minutes. Because it came out of nowhere. I screamed. I was like, what? It came out of her and my mouth just drops for like a full five minutes because it came out of nowhere I screamed I was like what it came out of nowhere it was such a hard

slap and nobody gave a shit like nobody cared nobody cared because they like hated her already like this is something we've kind of touched on with the other ones that we watched like Tyler Perry will make characters so hate like you hate them so much that you don't care what happens

like I felt like the sister like Taraji P. Henson's character like hates her sister so much that like they just did nothing and then she was like Taraji was like crying about it but then it seemed fake yeah yeah like in the back room she was like like it was also nobody explained anything to Taraji this whole movie like her sister didn't tell her sister that she was having an affair. Her mom didn't tell her that she had some money and didn't have to have the restaurant. Nobody told her who Nick was. And she was just like, ew, this icky man. I have to help him get dressed.

But that was, like, comedic. Like, there was, like, that point in the beginning where Nick is the homeless man who comes into the restaurant. He first comes in, and she's, like, pretending to scrub a dot on the counter she's like oh but the um please stop it was like it was a pretty funny moment but i was like she is being really mean as well to this man who the mom really cares about so it's like you know him you're getting there's clothes waiting for him like you're so you know exactly where it is yeah you go to combination to the locker go give him his clothes like don't make him feel bad all of like the homeless people or people in like dire straits so far in these movies don't speak they're all like i couldn't

possibly say a word oh i just i just need a little help the part where nick the part where nick is sitting at the table with the mom and he's like I don't know telling her some sort of like stocks to invest in I'm just like wait a minute quietly telling her how to invest you still know how to invest

I can't stay here I gotta go bye bye GameStop and then and then Taraji's like he's crazy and then i'm like he didn't sound crazy at all no he sounded so logical i don't know what he was talking about but it was like it seemed like really like smart and then i guess at the end is that how he got the house like he invested or something i don't i don't know i think it's because they were like this

separate company that had shares in the company, which I don't understand what the company does. I don't understand at all. Because they're stockbrokers, they're builders. I don't understand the company. Yeah, they do everything. Yeah. And also, why was Tarashi P. Henson there? She didn't know.

Her mama was just like, yo, you want to come somewhere with me? Yeah, mama, I'll be there. And they just went to a board meeting. And she was like, mama, you didn't tell me you was a millionaire like what the fuck you doing and then her response was you didn't ask which is so funny you didn't ask i'm gonna ask everyone if they're a millionaire just to finally find out oh my god also i gotta we we gotta stop having uh you know alfred woodard and and sanabi mother and daughter because she's always awful to her she was her daughter in love and basketball apparently she was her daughter in another movie i've never seen and in this one i think this is the last movie and she

was like you can't be my daughter no more you're too mean you're too mean you making me feel some type of way oh my god okay well okay so you said you've only seen like one other time which was the other one you've seen i've seen see okay so i've seen pretty much all the medea movies but i count those as one fair as one it's just an extended feature it's an extended feature because you know listen i grew up and i grew up black and and you know look black folks love them black church folk i grew up in the church too black church folks love them some tyler perry so i've been on tyler perry since the place uh like that's when i first got introduced to tyler perry i went to go see a tyler perry play same wow yeah it was medea uh tyler perry is such a an enigma to me because he's this cross-dressing, foul-mouthed, like, dude who plays an older woman that church folks love.

And I don't get it. I don't get it because everything my grandmother says about, you know, grandmother is a classic church woman. I was like, but you just told me how you don't like people who cross-dress and you love Tyler Perry. You wild. You're wild. And that's my introduction. I feel like there's something about that character

that makes people feel like, like, you know that feeling of like being made fun of, but it's comforting. Like it feels like there's something there where it's like, oh, he's doing, he's like roasting like this type of person in like a really funny way that's like accessible and not mean it's just like funny but he's he's he really disappears into the medea character which i did not expect and i also was really expecting medea to come into this movie at some point i really wanted it i'm one of the

deos so bad we love medea we have only had one movie with Medea so far. And we want more Medea. Medea is so funny. And I would say it's like maybe church people like Medea because she's non-threatening. But then I was like, oh, no, she shoots a gun constantly. She's so threatening. Like, I don't get the infatuation with Medea from church folks when I'm like, and then the opposite side for the rest of the sermon, essentially,

it is the most amazing thing to me that I just absolutely love. I love it so much. Maybe it also has to do with just how much he's into like morals. And like, it's like the theme, every, the theme of everything is so like deeply religious and moral somehow, like through it all that like,

I don't know, I guess it gives a little bit of leeway for that character but it's very interesting that i did medea on stage get laughs and that i mean it must have been like insane i feel like yeah yeah funniest thing ever from my memory the minute medea like walked out on stage she got like a standing ovation and then every word out of her mouth everyone was like yes yes and you ha ha ha. Yes, yes. And you know what I love about Madea and Tyler Perry movies just in general? Like, I can watch them with my grandma.

Like, the last movie I tried to watch with my grandma was Mr. and Mrs. Smith, which was all good until we got to the sex scene. I was like, I can't watch this with you no more. And she was even like, ooh, ooh, baby. Ooh, ooh, ooh. But like, this one, no matter how wild it gets you always gonna have something about prayer you always gonna have some church songs or some church music you're gonna have

some character who loves them some jesus and that's gonna bring you know that's gonna bring us together that's gonna bring me and grandma together when we watch these movies i love that yeah okay so we're gonna jump into our news media segment here this is our news media i'm gonna explain it every time because i don't feel like it's clear i don't know i like when you explain it because i'm like news media oh yes news media oh see i didn't get it but i get it I get it now. To continue shooting safely during the pandemic, Tyler Perry built Camp Quarantine at his studio. This person is the most effective. I'm so impressed by this. Okay, I haven't heard of anyone else doing this.

Tyler Perry had nine TV series in production in 2020 and four new shows ranging from Nickelodeon's Young Dylan. Okay, he's a Nickelodeon show? He's got a Nickelodeon show? to BET's Assisted Living. He managed to get cameras rolling again this summer by turning his 330-acre Tyler Perry Studios in Atlanta into what he called Camp Quarantine.

Wow. It was an $18 million program that included a 30-page list of conditions. Along with requirements for testing, masks, and social distancing, he also sequestered the Sistas cast and crew at the studio for the duration of filming, and after wrapping on Sistas,

he went on to shoot The Oval, Ruthless, and Bra in succession. Wow. He moves faster. Yes. How wild. It's so curious to me that other studios don't follow this. How did he figure this out?

I don't know, Nicole. Tyler Perry up here filming full 23 episode seasons in two weeks. Now, listen, I love the quarantine. All that shit is great. But this dude is working these fools like slaves up there. No, no sleep. Record. Film.

It's like a soap opera. They film it like soap operas. They do film like soap operas. It's 30 pages a day. We're going to do one episode in one and a half days. But I mean, I think studios could have quarantined actors. Oh, yes. And then just been like, we're going to in like the shittiest city that we can find

so you can't really do anything and then you just we sequester you and shoot it as opposed to studios having to like close down productions because they're young actors can't stop partying that's true I mean I'm very impressed by this

I mean there's a picture and I don't know if that picture is connected to the story. That picture is kind of weird. It is weird. So the picture we're looking at is like rows of what looks like barns and a bunch of people milling about, but they're all pretty far apart. They're all perfectly distanced.

I assume they're getting tested. Oh, maybe they are. Okay, because it looks like they would be living in these like weird trailers or something, which it looks like an army. I mean, I don't know. It looks like an army base. It looks really odd. Which I'm not surprised.

Maybe Tyler Perry's starting a COVID free army. Oh my God. I would not be shocked at this point. Imagine. Imagine that's like our next defense is Tyler Perry's army. I need to know about his Nickelodeon show. If Tyler Perry created an army, I'd be hollering for it because I know it's going to get work done. I know it's going to get the work done.

And I know, you know, we're going to have some good music. Yeah. Instead of the hundred year war, it's like the one week war. It's like we were fighting around the clock. OK. Yes. Yes. Oh, my God. I'm looking up Young Dylanylan which came out in 2020 i mean he

literally has been he he just made so many shows during the pandemic when no one else was working i'm just like blown away by this yeah smart wait what is assistant living i don't know about that either is that about old people apparently yes see you know the thing i love about tyler perry one he's a billionaire which i know we're not supposed to love billionaires but fuck it i love tyler perry as a billionaire he seems like a good billionaire in that he's not he didn't get his money from uh screwing people over it's like he just got it from making an empire of films right i mean well apparently tyler perry well he writes everything yeah and so he gets he he he skirts by doing a whole bunch of non-union shit. Okay, so maybe that's just a little bit shady.

So it's a little bit shady. It's a little bit shady. But the thing that I love, he got all this money. He has all these ideas. He's writing all his movies, quick movies, do the whole seasons. And his wig budget is atrocious. Even in this movie, he had a wig on for his afro and i'm like that is the worst wig that wig was so funny and unnecessary can i just tell you i love that that's his character the character is like my hair is a

little bit longer can i just tell you real quick tyler perry's assistant living it's on bt it uh premiered on september 2020 september 2nd 2020 and there are 25 episodes of it yeah so not only is he like like you know producing fast he's also producing a lot of episodes yes also there is a character named todd the inspector that was like a series regular i think so how are you gonna be a series regular and don't even have a last name also it's from the uh the meet the browns universe okay so people reprise their roles from meet the Browns. So all of Tyler Perry's stuff is like intertwined. That's smart too, because then it's like, you don't have to come up with anything new. You're like, oh, we already know these people. We'll just put them over here.

And we just did get verification that that picture is his studio. I mean, it is his camp. So that's literally what it is. It looks like those barns. So that's where people are sleeping and stuff? I don't i guess how wild the tyler perry bubble i mean camp quarantine sounds like i guess it's supposed to be like summer camp vibe that's why those weird little cabins but they're like long barns they're really weird it's the only way to describe them yeah as long barns. Also, 330 acres. I can't even fathom how big that is. That's very big. He did a tour of his studio,

which apparently is amazing. Everybody who went there said, this is the most amazing thing I've ever filmed. And I know Bad Boys 2 or 3 and Coming to America were both filming there at the same time, too. So he's filming all the black shit at his studio. So he's not just doing his own stuff. Yeah, he lends it out.

He's lended it out to a couple productions as well. And I would love to just take a tour of it because it seems like Disney World for like film studio. Yeah. Well, there must just be so many things going on if you have a whole section of 300 barns full of people. I wonder how much it is to rent out.

Is it like comparable to other studios or is it cheaper to entice people to film there? I mean, I feel like if you do 25 episodes in one month,

it's probably cheap as hell. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, if you, if he's working that fast, it's like there's a lot of time during the year where there's nothing being made, maybe. He's like, I finish all my shows in January.

Which we started in January. We started January 1 and we were done January 28th. If anyone wants to rent out the place for the rest of the year, you can go for it. I mean, how wild. I truly can't believe how many shows he has going on. Because this is the whole thing.

Nicole and I have not really seen any of this stuff. But I mean, I've been so aware of him. But I didn't realize that he had this many things. He's on every network. He has five new shows right now. I can't keep up. And I forgot he did Meet the Browns. See, that's the thing I love about Tyler Perry, because he's so prolific.

Like when I when I watch this movie and then on Prime, I watch it on Prime. So after it's over, it gives you what do you want to watch next? And it was just like 20 movies with Taraji P. Henson. Just like all the same people, which I love. See, he was like, oh, you and the family, you and the family. Yeah. That all came out before 2012. And it's just like he's still making movies.

He has like 100 films under his belt, I feel like. I know. It's amazing. Just so much. It's amazing. What a treat. He's got to be tired. He has to be tired.

I don't think he is. Or maybe not. He films so quickly that he's got tons tired he has to be tired i don't think he is he filmed so quickly that he's got tons of time to vacation he's like doing great um okay let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll deep dive into this movie If you're wondering what a NordVPN is, I'll tell you. VPN stands for Virtual Private Network, a service that protects your internet connection and online privacy. A VPN creates an encrypted tunnel for your data, protect your online identity by hiding your IP address, and allow you to use public Wi-Fi hotspots safely.

I'm using a Nord VPN myself. And honestly, it's very easy to use. You connect with one click to enable auto-connect for zero-click protection. It has amazing speed. Nord VPN is one of the fastest VPNs out there, and it supports every major platform, Windows, Android, iOS, Linux, even Android TV. You can switch your virtual location to access apps and websites in other countries. Get an exclusive NordVPN deal here at nordvpn.com slash newcomers, N-O-R-D-V-P-N.com slash newcomers. It's risk-free with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee. Link is in the episode description. And we're back. Okay. So The Family That Prays was written by Tyler Perry, directed by Tyler Perry. It was released September 12th, 2008. Should we go through the summary?

Yeah. Okay. Buckle up. Okay, so as a favor to her friend Alice, socialite Charlotte Cartwright hosts her daughter Andrea's wedding, which I thought was so weird. At the wedding, Andrea and her new husband Chris.

It was really weird. And when she's putting on the wedding dress. Yeah, she's like, don't embarrass mama. And then she's like, I don't want to wear this dress. And I was's like putting on the wedding dress. Yeah. She's like, don't embarrass mama. And then she's like, I don't want to wear this dress. And I was like, but it's your wedding. It was just a really strange start. But then I guess looking back, I'm like, I guess because that character is supposed to be so mean. Yeah. Was that a hint of that?

I guess it was setting up that she is ungrateful. Yeah. But it really came across weird because like you don't get that until much later, really. Yeah. So it just was like, oh, she's being like really bitchy about this wedding dress that I assume she already knew she was going to wear today. It's not like this is your first time seeing it. It's like surprise, you're getting married, here's your dress. Right.

Right. You can wed it in this beautiful like chapel or whatever they are. You know you saw that dress. this beautiful chapel or whatever they are. You know you saw that dress. Okay, so at the wedding, Andrea and her new husband are congratulated by Charlotte's son, William, and his wife, Jillian.

William suggests they contact him for employment once they return from their honeymoon since his family owns a successful construction company. Okay, so it's a construction company, but then there's stockbrokers in the construction company? I don't know. And then he was clearly hitting on the bride. He like, he kisses her.

She can like winks at her. And then like, it's also like, I'll give you a job in construction, man. And it's like, it was, it was a very weird energy coming off right off the bat. It was so weird. Like he was biting his lip as he was talking to her. I'm like, come on, bruh. It's her wedding day. It's her wedding day.

Like stop eyeballing her up and down he really was the weirdest thing so okay we cut to four years later and then andrea is having an affair with william chris dreams of opening a construction firm with ben who is played by tyler perry who also works at the cartwrights construction company and is married to andrea's sister pam who we see only we met him at the wedding a little bit and that was a pretty fun scene um chris is rejected for a loan application but discovers andrea has deposited three hundred thousand dollars in a secret account by the way this is jumping ahead so much because yes so much happens before this so andrea catches chris going

through her financial records she tells him the money is from bonuses at work but refuses to finance chris's plans okay i but refuses to finance Chris's plans. I would like to say there's an hour where you don't know she's having an affair. She just doesn't like her husband. And it's kind of like, I'm tired all the time. Yes. Also the way he finds out at the bank,

he was like, I'd like $40 please. And my teller's like, from which account? The one with a little bit of money or a lot of bit of money. He's like, there's a lot of bit of money. Two accounts.er's like, from which account? The one with a little bit of money or a lot of bit of money? He's like, there's a lot of bit of money? And she's like, mm-hmm, two accounts.

And like... He's like, the bank was like, your social security number matches your wife's? Like, I don't know, there was something really weird. Oh yeah, there was something weird there. It was so weird. Also, have you never been to the bank in Tyler Perry world? Like, today is the day you go to the bank

and find out you got two accounts? Like, come on. It was, yeah, he's never logged on online. He's never like gone to an ATM. Like he just like, he goes in and then she's like, well, there's another account. And he's like, there's only one. And there's only one.

Thank you. And she's like, okay. She's like the social security number of your wife, the same as yours. And I was like, that doesn't make sense. And then she's like, and that one's got a lot in it. And he's like, how much? And then she's like 286,. And he's like, how much? And then she's like, 286,000. He's like, say what?

I think he goes, come again. And then Tyler Perry later is like, when he tells him about it, he goes, come again. He's like, that's what I said. I'm like, well, it is what you said. Also, the thing that I love about this movie is apparently within these four years everybody just either had amnesia or went so far away from each other because everybody that met again was like oh how you doing brother i haven't seen you since the wedding man how you doing man i haven't seen you in four years brother yeah man everyone just like forgot about each other so that was their

one event they're all related now they never talk again i love that yeah but this is we're also missing the whole this this summary is missing all of the shit about kathy bates and yes alfre woodard like we need to hear about this this is like like the beginning of that is so weird i i I'm so confused that they're actually friends because Kathy Bates seems so evil at the beginning. Yeah, but then you find out later that Kathy Bates' husband was trying to displace people of color

and Alfie Woodward's character said no. And she was like, ooh, aren't you a spitfire strong? You could be my black friend who I'll go on road trips with. When this movie turned into a road trip movie, I was like, wait a minute. What is going on? I thought that was going to have something to do with everything else.

And it didn't. It was like, we literally were like, now we're in New Orleans. Now we're in wherever. Like now we're in the South. And I was like, wait, what are you doing? You're just going to bars and like going to bars and driving by baptisms and like just getting out of the car and just getting baptized in dirty water and listen let me tell you let me tell you Jackie's has been baptized four times in Lake Michigan I get I get the baptizing in a body

of water when the church ain't got a tub but did you drive by a random you don't know any of the people they don't know you're coming nobody Nobody. Everybody just looks at you like, what the fuck are y'all doing in the ocean? Like Kathy Bates was like, don't let go. She's just like falling into the water. And we also find out, I mean, let's keep reading. Let's keep reading. Because I mean, maybe some of this will come out.

So William is determined to take the family business from Charlotte and thinks his latest deal will convince shareholders. Charlotte hires Abby as COO. Robin Gibbets! Yes! I don't see her often and I was glad to see her in this. I was so happy to see her.

And she determines the company will have to front $25 million to make William's deal viable. The only way to raise the money is for Charlotte to sell 10% of her shares, leaving her with a minority vote. William tells Abby that Charlotte's vote and his vote combined will give the car rights continued control cart rights continued control and charlotte is kathy bates yes yeah uh abby advises charlotte to to sell her shares afterwards charlotte asks alice to go on a road trip there we go in her new convertible alice agrees then they head west without plans but when they show when when she shows up when what Alice shows up at Charlotte's house to go

on the road trip which it hasn't been determined I don't think that she was gonna go but she like comes into her bedroom and Kathy Bates is like sitting in the dark with like and she's like and she's like why are you in the dark and she was like the camera the camera

I've listen I don't camera. Listen, I don't know much about Alzheimer's. I don't have anybody in my family who's ever had it and things like that. I just know what I see in movies. But what I do know is the way they had her flip the switch between, I'm just a normal, fun-lo want some I want some ass white lady to I'm this desolate can't open the camera sit in the dark it was so weird it was so not anything like movies don't even portray it that way so if you're writing it based on knowing nothing you would never even go there and then from what I understand I've never witnessed anything like that with a person who has Alzheimer's.

It was like she was becoming a child in a way. Yes. But she was into sex and drinking, which I guess was supposed to be funny because she was an uptight Southern woman or something. But it truly was like, she seems fine. She seems so fine. She seems just kind of fun like i don't she's fine she's absolutely fine she just has like one little incident where she's not little again i don't know much about alzheimer's but it was one incident in the entire movie and it wasn't

even that big of a deal it's like she was sitting in the dark and she was like it's a beautiful day and she's like but you're not even looking at it the shades are drawn and then she like opens it and then it was like okay like it didn't it was more like i thought she was mad like i just yes she didn't seem like she had a real problem so that was i thought she had cancer or something i thought she had like like i'm about to die in two weeks cancer or something i just didn't know what was going on i was like surely this will be revealed but like there's no like she her character is like fine throughout like she has perfectly normal conversations with everyone like later when like

the daughter-in-law is like my husband's cheating she's like that's the same room my husband would cheat on me and which is insane why why did her son knew that he went to the same hotel room and said i'm gonna fuck where my daddy fucked what not just the same hotel same room he sits in the same chair her memory is good enough that she's saying oh room 6029 that's where your dad also had it's like he she just seemed perfectly with it i don't know this is interesting um so they go to honky tonks and strip clubs alice takes her to a baptism which is fully wild during the trip. Charlotte reveals that to Alice that she's got early onset Alzheimer's disease.

And maybe she wants to go home. Yeah. Maybe the early onset is what we're holding onto that. Like it hasn't really, you know, taken over, but there's little signs, but still that is the drinking part of that.

Or is she just trying to have fun before she knows that she's not going to be able to do this anymore? She's trying to have like one last hurrah, which is why she, she was like, I'm Thelma and that's Louise. Also, when Alfre Woodward threw holy water on that stripper. I lost my shit. When they're in the strip club and Kathy Bates is like having the time of her life and Alfre Woodward is like hiding her face like, oh no.

It's just a different movie. it's just two different movies she pulls out like this little pocket bible and was like be back devil be back and it is like comedic so it's also like interesting like there's like these moments where like that is funny but i also think it's supposed to be serious it's just a really interesting tone um so at the company gala both jillian and abby discover andrea and williams affair um who's jillian that's william that's the front desk lady right yeah oh i thought jillian was the wife wait let me see let me look at my list yeah she's the one yeah okay with those bangs that's right that's right yep okay yes she did have bangs her bangs were a full intense um so abby warns andrea the affair will lead to her firing andrea rebuffs believing

william will protect her william fires chris and ben after they ask him for money to start a construction business of their own which is crazy to be like hello employer can i have money to start my own thing and i won't be employed here anymore? Yeah. Convinced that the money in Andrea's account belongs to both of them, which I don't know why he's convinced of that since he didn't know about it,

Chris takes it and pays deposits to start the construction firm with Ben. Oh, wild. And the construction firm is named Chris and Ben's Construction. Yes. Yes. Which we find out about

after he slaps the black off of this person. And we're still supposed to be like, oh, okay, I guess he had his happy ending. I just couldn't believe it. I was like, not a last name? Chris and Ben? No, they literally made a poster. It's like, Chris and Ben have

a hammer. I was like, okay, you can't think of a name? So Charlotte and Alice return to Atlanta. Andrea confronts Chris for taking the money. She admits to the affair and confesses that the money was from William. After the fight turns physical, she tells Chris to move out. He brings up their son. Andrea reveals

that William is his father. Alice tries to persuade Andrea to end her affair with William and reconcile with Chris. Although they aren't close, Jillian goes to Charlotte for advice. Charlotte reminds her that she does not have a prenup and will be fine without William. Jillian warns Charlotte of William. Which is like really nice.

She's basically like, take whatever you want. She's like clipping flowers and she's like, know what you want. You have to be a strong woman. You don't have a prenup, so you hold all the cards. And I was like, wait, what? Because at first she's being kind of like unfeeling towards her.

She's like, yeah, that's what happens in this type of relationship. If you want to have this house, you have to let them have sex with whoever they want. And you can have an affair of your own as well. And then she's like, I'm really upset because I actually am in love with him. And this is sad. And she's like, let's just say you have no prenup and you can do whatever you want. It's like this, this character is hard to follow.

Yes. And then also what she does to William later negates the money. Like she has him fired. So then it's like, where she doesn't have any money. She don't have no money. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. It doesn't help. So the people in this movie that can't like these, they not cheating good in this movie like it is so obvious that they're all cheating uh-huh i'm like how do y'all not know that they cheating on y'all it was the funniest thing it was the funniest thing even just with like with um andrea or andrea i don't remember how they pronounced in the movie but she like she's so clearly having an affair like she she

has no connection to her husband so uninterested when he shows up to work and then and then um what robin gibbons is like are you gonna come to the gala and he's like i didn't know about it but i'll be there i was like wait can't you see this is bad that she didn't tell you that this is a thing like oh wait and at the g, the front desk woman being like, oh, a husband's looking for a wife. Who's upstairs? Was somebody else? I know, but the front desk lady gave it away so much.

She's like, you're here? She always has something on Wednesday. I'll just stop talking. It's like... Yeah, and then Robin's like, you need to go home before you give away more of this plot to people. And then there's that moment, which is like pure slapstick,

where the receptionist calls the woman standing right next to her and is like, your meeting's pushed. And she's like, okay. But then it was like, that's like Tyler Perry going like, just in case you didn't get it, that she's fucking that guy.

She's fucking Mr. Cartwright. If anything, Tyler Perry really wants you to like understand what's going on in the movie. Like there will be no questions. There's going to be no YouTube, you know, fucking videos about like, this could have meant this.

It's like, no, no, I'll just reiterate what I meant. This is not inception. This is the family that prays. Which is why I think we're feeling, we're like enjoying this so much because we just spent like the last you know many months watching things where we have to have

someone explain every element of it to us and now we're like no i really get it okay i know exactly what is anything i get this so much that i've noticed other things so uh okay so then jillian like rewards charlotte for like telling her to fuck other people and tells Charlotte about William's intent to have her voted out of the company. Chris confronts William on a job site with no windows and punches him and like like holds him over the fucking edge like he's going to kill him. He's literally almost murdered. It is all that is saving him is that Chris is able to hold on to his weight because he would fall to his death. And then Chris hits a piece of wood that has the blueprints on it. And it flies up in this background actor's face.

You know that background actor wasn't expecting it. Yeah, he goes like, hey. It was like, hey. And also, bro, how the fuck you make it up to like they at least on the 20th floor how you make it all the way up to the 20th floor and make it all the way back down with no cop presence after you punched this man in the face there though there's never been any consequences with that stuff at all so never okay so charlotte calls a board meeting and fires william with the support of the calvary company, a silent investor revealed to be Alice.

Alice has been receiving financial guidance over the years from Nick. Okay. So he literally was telling her a homeless man. She fed at her diner and returned for investment advice. But why is he homeless? Like we don't, right. Do we know?

Because William, she did explain it. Okay, wait, Nick worked for William as a stockbroker and had been a regular customer alice's diner until william fired him he lost his wife and children in the parking lot andrea approaches william unaware that the of the recent events and expecting him to leave jillian for her instead he rejects her and drives away charlotte takes a deadly combination of pills and makes a final call to alice alice gives the eulogy at charlotte's funeral but wait i need

to go back to nick because she alice could have been helping nick yeah just like a little bit more than giving him a shirt that's really huge and like pants yeah like she could be like let's get you on your feet let's try to figure out some housing for you and i mean she does say it before we know that reveal she does say, like, if you ever want to get off the streets, let me know. And he's like, okay. It's like he doesn't want to. I guess because he's so down about how his life turned around

that he needed, like, that little bit of revenge against Mr. Cartwright to, like, go buy a house. He's like, now I'll live in a house. And not just, just like an apartment or the way he bought like a mansion huge house he bought a mansion but like that was such a strange payoff because he had only been in like two tiny little scenes yeah and you're like wait you get

like a whole house i wasn't even sure it was him at the end. I had to rewind that. I know. He just get a house. Wait, what? Because he looks so much. I think that was a reshoot because he is at least 20 pounds lighter. Thank you. There was something.

He looked different. He looked so different. When he was homeless, he was really tan and had dirt on his face all the time. And then at the end, he just looks totally different i mean he looks totally different he's paler can i tell you my favorite small part one of my favorite small parts is when she's banked at the end when she's like leave your wife for me he's like i'm not gonna leave my wife for you and she's banging on the car normally when people did she's screaming normally when people do that you roll the window up this dude rolled the window down just drove he was like i need to hear the last bits of

screaming before i leave that is i also caught that i was like wait why did he roll the window down it is just little stuff like that that made this movie so enjoyable for me I also caught that. I was like, wait, why did he roll the window down? Why did he roll the window down? It is just little stuff like that that made this movie so enjoyable for me. I agree. And then after he drove away, she just like fell on her knees in the middle of a parking lot. And I was like, you better get up. He drove. People are not, you know, the most attentive.

He sped out of that parking lot. I was like, he's going to hit someone and they will die within one second. Because he goes like zero to 100 like just in that parking lot i was like he's gonna hit someone and they will die within one second like because he goes he goes like zero to a hundred like just in a parking lot yeah also like i know you just said you know you can have the money but go get your money back yeah go get your that's a lot of money to just a lot of money give up to ben and chris's construction company and then she is she i guess has zero dollars now he she gave her whole bank account to him okay so in the end chris and andrea split with the paternity of their son left unclear chris and ben opened their did you read this or am i just no we haven't read this yet oh chris and ben opened their firm and nick lands back on his feet will William and Jillian reconcile, slowly salvaging their marriage.

Alice decides to sell the diner and drives off to start a new life in the car that Charlotte left her with a photo of her and Charlotte taped to the dashboard. Again, completely different film. It's a different film. So she walks out of her diner. She puts up a for sale sign. She struggles to lock it. She gets in a car, tapes a picture in a convertible,

and then drives away with no plan, saying goodbye to some people on the street. I was like, wait, what? And she was also driving on the wrong side of the street. On the wrong side of the road. I was like, you're driving on the wrong side. You parked on the wrong side of the street. I didn't even understand why,

because it's like, just shoot it the other way, where she walks around the car and gets in then drives away the right way. Couldn't do it. Sorry. We only have that one camera angle. We will not do another setup. She cuts across a double yellow line while there's pedestrians crossing the street and then like goes through. It's like, wait, let's do a take two.

Like we could do this. This is how we get it done fast. One take and we are fucking out of here. No camera repo. Nothing like her struggling to lock. Like we could do this one more time. This is how we get it done fast. One take and we are fucking out of here. We are out of here. No camera repo, nothing. Like her struggling to lock the door. We've already been filming this movie for 12 days. We got to wrap. We got to wrap.

But it was such, it was so bizarre. It was like a road trip, like a girlfriend movie wrapped in a cheating drama saga of people trying to out money other people. It was, yeah, it was, it was wild.

I, I had a great time. That's also a little racist, like with the Southern family. Like, yeah, I thought that was going to be like a bigger part of it. Like,

cause it seemed like that was the setup at the beginning. Like it seemed really like the dynamics were really odd and then none of that really came into play no it's all just about some people are evil and some people are not and there's kind of no rhyme or reason to who it is it was just like she's a really mean lady she's dating a really mean rich guy having an affair and there i never really got a moral out of that one i guess it's like i guess that she was a bitch and she lost everything so she like i guess that's the moral like that's it it's like you if you're gonna be mean to everyone in your life and like so hateful like it is gonna come back and get you but like why does chris get to

have the money like that makes me annoyed too he was also not perfect yeah i don't know and then there's a scene with william and jillian just eating dinner and i was like is this what you wanted so then they're like together they stayed together he's like i want to make it work with my wife and then she's like we have a child he's like do we and then she he's at home silently eating with that woman as if it's like good like it was in the dark too like yeah get light it was horrible and then her bangs changed at the end i guess she had like big bangs to be like i yeah, get light. It was horrible. And then her bangs changed at the end. I guess she had like big bangs to be like, I'm an ingenue who's just so sad.

And then her bangs like swipe to the side and she's like, I'll get what I want. Well, that also makes me think of reshoots because I, as someone who goes between having bangs and not having bangs all the time, it's like a constant struggle to like try to match the old bangs. Where I feel like they were like, okay, we're're just gonna push it all over because they were so pronounced and then it was like she looks she looks totally different without them like it was just she does a lot of people by the end of the movie look like different people than the beginning of the movie i wouldn't be surprised if they were like they had to come back and shoot the end like five months later he didn't write the end yet also can we talk about when when his wife mr cartwright's wife went to go to the hotel room where you know zanawa's fucking chris or fucking uh what's what's this what's the what's the dude's name is cartwright what's his real name william william where she's fucking william

like that is one of my biggest pet peeves in movies because it's so funny and unrealistic how a complete person can walk in a room and you don't look up at all to see who the fuck just walked in your room. She's literally going like, hey, babe, can't believe it. We're going to get away with all of this

or something. It's like heels, legs, woman. That's not you. That's not you. It's so obvious. it's so obvious that that's not him she's like oh baby we got away with it now fuck me good and she looks up like oh no it is funny because yeah anytime someone walks in a room like in my own house i'm always like ah yeah what do you mean you're screaming you live in a house with people but without fail if someone enters a room i'm in where i was alone i will scream so like even if i was in a hotel room i would immediately look up to see who's

coming in is it the person i'm expecting to fuck is it his wife who is it yeah especially after the bad day you just had and that you're cheating it's like you should kind of be on edge a little bit all the time like something is gonna happen yes you always looking over your shoulder when you cheat so wait this movie won awards oh wait well wait we should say it's written by Tyler Perry, directed by Tyler Perry, released on September 12, 2008. Okay. So, yes. It was nominated.

It got a bunch of things, right? Oh, no. It was nominated. So, nominated for an Outstanding Motion Picture, Outstanding Actress for Alfre Woodward, and Outstanding Directing for Tyler Perry at the NAACP Image Awards, Alfre Woodward and Sanaa Lathan. Lathan? Oh, we gotta figure out

how to say this woman's name. We do. We're nominated for Best Actress at the Black Reel Awards. And Tyler Perry was nominated for Best Screenplay, Original or Adapted. Ferris, can you find out

how we say Sanaa Lathan's name? Yeah. Just so we say it correctly one time during this podcast. That'd be nice. I know. And I've always been like, this is how because i used

to say it without fail sonalathon and somebody was like that's not how you say it and ever since then i've been like i don't know how to say this woman's name yeah i don't know i saw her in a raisin in the sun and she was so fucking good like a play on stage she was in was she in the puff daddy yeah in the stage play with pdd who famously recreated the set in his house so he could really practice. That's what money does for you. That feels like being dumb. That seems so unnecessary. Why can't you imagine the stage?

You can't imagine he's got to be there. I've done so much theater and up until the set is built, you're just walking around on taped floors. Yeah, I think you can use your imagination a little bit. Yes. Okay, so critically, the film was not well received. It currently has a 53% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. That's not that bad. Yeah, that's not that bad.

The score does make it the second highest rated Tyler Perry movie on Rotten Tomatoes. Behind only I Can Do Battle by Myself. Okay. So, okay. Not horrible. All right. One critic from AV Club wrote,

while it's wonderful to see actresses as shamefully underemployed as Woodward and Bates on the big screen, even they can't make sense of these incoherent characters. Would you say they're shamefully underemployed? Oh, I mean, I feel like, well, Alfre Woodard is more underemployed than Kathy Bates. But that's a weird way to phrase that, I feel like well Alfre Woodard is more underemployed than Kathy Bates

but that's a weird way to phrase that I feel like I will say like Tyler does pull people who you want to see more of and puts them in movies that's true and he also like helped like really make Tarashi P. Henson

prolific where people was like oh let's keep seeing her and stuff he's in like four of his movies I feel like uh and this I loved it I love it yeah well an audience is like the film which is the kind of the continuing theme here as we go through these movies it has a google audience score it has a google audience score of 87 percent and it grossed 17.4 million dollars its opening weekend eventually earning 37.1 million domestically and it'sed $17.4 million its opening weekend, eventually earning $37.1 million domestically. And it's the second least successful Tyler, it's the second least successful Tyler Perry film,

Daddy's Little Girls, is the least successful. So, I mean, he still makes millions of dollars even when it's not doing great. This is wild numbers to be like, this was not as successful as it could have been. And I feel like these fresh ratings are like, who's writing it?

Because at the end of the day, the audiences like it. They go to the films. It's like, I don't know. I think that's kind of bullshit. Yeah. So we figured out how to say her name. Hold on. It was, yes.

Sanaa. Sanaa Lathan. I think you said that. So we were pretty close. Sanaa Lathan. So we were close. Yeah. I just get, I get in my head.

I get in my head. Also. Yeah. Yeah. close so not really close yeah i just get i get in my head i get in my head also yeah yeah i want to reject the notion of movies having to be good to be good thank you like because and when i mean we liked it and that's all that really matters if you are you entertained yes then it was a good fucking movie it doesn't have to be quote-unquote script good or all like a bad movie can be good. And like especially on Twitter and me and you, but all three of us know a few film snobs who are just like, oh, if it isn't one of the best movies of all time, it's bad.

And I'm just like, no, no. And that's it. Critics. That's all critics think about is, is it a quote unquote good movie? Not did I have fun watching this movie? Totally. I did. And like it's always comparing it to other things. is is it a quote unquote good movie not did i have fun watching this movie totally i did and like it's always comparing it to other things like the i think tyler perry movies stand alone completely you cannot compare them to anything because they do not have they don't fit a genre

nope they have so many different things going on and that's what's fun about it like i i was entertained the entire time i wanted to know what's gonna happen i was curious about every character i again it was a good time like i picked up my phone at one point last night when i was watching it and i missed something and i was like well dang so i put my phone down rewound it and then was like gotta watch this same i didn't i checked my phone when she died and i looked i looked away when she was looking at the mirrors and shit and I checked my phone real quick and I looked up and we had her funeral or like she getting a call that she died I'm like wait a minute she died you can't look away you can't you can't something insane is

gonna happen like wait her mirror was also a little wild for me so it was just like opens from this side I was like okay that makes sense and then he was like or the mirror said this this person's your friend oh my god and i was like oh okay and then it was like you're a nice i wish i could remember all i should get a screenshot of that when we post about this because it was great it was like it was like you're a nice lady your son is named whatever you are you work at here and it was like it was just like so she is losing her faculties but she didn't seem like that but also she wrote you are a nice lady i don't know if that's a thing that leaves you i might have made that up i hope with all my being she wrote that

i hope you didn't make that up i hope you saw it and it's in your subconscious. I am a nice lady. But that was the thing. I was like, I think you remember. I didn't feel like she was at the point in her life where she had to end it all. It was just, she was doing okay. I don't know.

And then also, so I thought she hired the COO to like co-run the business with her. I guess she hired the COO to run. So she could oust her son and that person could take over the business. Yeah. So maybe it was like a long play where she was like, I'm going to kill myself and I need to set up the company. So my son can't have a fucking thing because i'm a nice lady says it in the mirror i know i'm trying to find a screenshot of that on on google and it's not working but i need while you look for that i'm gonna give some trivia okay so yes we already

know this alfre and sanaa played mother and daughter in love and basketball alfre also played taraji p henson's mother in Empire. Tyler Perry worked in construction before finding success with plays and film. Much like Harrison Ford, who I believe worked at construction. Thank you. Before Sturridge. I did retain something. Connecting it.

Connecting it. Famously a carpenter. The film grossed $17 million its it's opening weekend eventually earning 37.1 million domestically oh yeah we already it's the least successful i mean yeah and i mean daddy's little girls i the fact that that's the least successful i'm like that's pretty good yeah i didn't hate it i have never seen it did you guys guys watch that? It's really dramatic. But it's wild. There is one character, the mother character, who behaves so poorly and beats up some people in front of her daughters.

But you're just like, I can't. This isn't real. There's like child abuse. There's like a lot of things that happen in that one that are really intense. Yeah. But then it also has some moments that are like oddly really light so and then there's like a neighborhood brawl scene it's you know the thing i love about tyler perry's movies are i'm thoroughly enjoying myself because you know why and and and this is

great this is why i love tyler perry as a black billionaire because he does what so many creative people wish they could do and that is whatever the fuck they want yeah like seriously and I I know that sounds like an understatement but like we all are creative we can't do whatever the fuck we want most of the time right for many reasons whether it's you're in your own head or whatever but this dude will literally just sit down put pen to paper say ain't nobody rewriting this shit this is the movie you getting this is the movie y'all about to shoot and we about to shoot the hell out of this and this is just like it's the beginning of the blueprint when jc said when jay-z says just what i was feeling at the time like what you're about to witness is just what i was feeling at the time that is tyler perry in a nutshell you are about to witness just what i was feeling at the time like what you're about to witness is just what i was feeling at the time that is tyler perry in a nutshell you are about to witness just what i was feeling at the time

and it is amazing i think it's kind of incredible that he takes like really like well-established high-end actors and then matches them with people that you haven't really seen yeah and then that like gives those people an opportunity yeah like tyler perry his casting is very strategic and i think really smart yeah well and then when he puts himself in it's like also fascinating because he plays like like in this movie he's just like a really normal guy and like then you're like okay so why did you cast yourself in this role like i'm so curious about like what why did that seem fun to you to be like this sort of like hey what's going on like he doesn't he doesn't do anything and then in the next movie he's three characters he's medea he's

uncle whatever he's like he's truly just like i will show you fuckers range yeah you want to see fucking range i got and the range in this movie was that in the beginning he had short hair and then four years later it was a little longer it was a little longer it was a nappier fro i'm looking at this picture of tyler perry as ben and i can't stop laughing it is the worst wig i've ever seen but why are the wigs bad like why it's like insane because there was a bad wig in in which one was it that we watched? No, it was the first one. It was Diary of a Mad Black Woman.

Wait, what was that one? Diary of a Mad Black Woman. What did we do for the first one? Diary of a Mad Black Woman. Did you say it? I did twice, but then you'll only hear it on my recording. Yeah. But there was like a bad wig on a guy in that.

And you're like, wait, like wait why like first of all just don't even put it on like i don't even know what what's happening yeah like tyler perry your hair is fine your hair is fine also you could just grow a fro bro like i know like you got hair you know filming this and a media movie simultaneously that must be what it is that it's like everyone's triple cast and so they're like doing a hundred things and also tyler perry deserves his flowers for his acting his acting skills because outside of his own movies he's been in some other good shit he's been in like that alex cross movie which he was pretty good in i don't know about that he was in gone girl

remember he was in gone girl he was in star trek which he was pretty good he was in star trek yeah he was in like all three of them uh the reboot yeah he's like a federation leader i wonder if tyler perry wants to do other people's projects or if he's just like i'm fucking fine i just write whatever i want and i'm in it yeah yeah probably i think he does other people's projects when he's just bored. Yeah. Yeah. Because he doesn't need to. Because he can just do.

He's in every one of his own movies just about. So. Right. If he's bored, he'll be in it. And I love it. And he'll show us. He'll show us. Oh, yeah. I can act.

I can act. Okay. We're going to have to find that picture of kathy bates looking in the mirror i need that i get nowhere online i i need i'm looking i'm using the wrong search terms because i need to find this but okay let's see kathy bates now i'm looking too you think somebody would have taken a screenshot of that to make fun of it yes maybe people aren't watching the movies with like a comedic eye maybe they're just like man that was so dramatic yeah oh lord yeah this is hard to find yeah i might have to just pull it up on prime and take my yeah i'm gonna do it again yeah yes we got the strip club

scene i see that the strip club scene was just so funny to me. Kathy Bates is like, come on, daddy. And she's just throwing a whole. Also, who travels with holy water? And I didn't know that was a black people thing. I didn't know we did holy water. My grandma, I was talking about this with somebody with Ify and Carl two days ago. My grandma would literally just bless a bottle of olive oil and be like this is holy water and holy oil and be wiping that shit all on our face when i was a kid i didn't get it but now i realize that you just put

an olive oil all over my forehead and spraying it around the house that's all she did and she would keep one in her purse in case she ever needed to pray over people i love that it's a thing it's a thing and it's very funny we had holy water in my fridge growing up that was in like a pill it was like in a like a penicillin bottle or something like i would always confuse me because i i always connected the holy water with the taste of that medicine because it was in like a medicine bottle i never drank it or anything i just like thought it probably tasted like that because i was just like little and didn't understand what was going on and why we had that but it was in our fridge this is a hard picture to find but i'm gonna i'm gonna we have to figure that out i'm gonna

take a pic of it i gotta go i gotta go check it out to read every post-it note on that mirror because it's worth it it is it is we need to know what that said because it was it was funny it was it was um well i think we've come to the end sadly jakees do you have anything that you want to plug oh yeah yeah yeah well listen you know when when you're not watching tyler perry movies you know if you want to get some other reality uh come check out the cast with ray and jackie's it's very fun i'm having a blast yeah wait tell us about that because i have to listen that yeah yeah yeah so here's what we're doing we're building the greatest cast of all time and this season is centered around reality tv shows uh so we're building the greatest reality tv show cast of all time a cast of 12 and we're taking some of the greatest moments from some of the biggest

reality shows and pulling names from those clips that we're watching uh so like we've had drag race so far we've had the challenge we've had uh 90 day fiance survivor flavor of love the bank making the band we are we're going deep diving into all these reality shows and their big clips building a great cast we'll see if we come away with a pretty good one who knows but I'm having fun I'm having fun doing it and Ray Ray is the reality show queen

she knows her shit and I'm just you know an opinionated dude who also watches reality TV and stuff like that. But, you know, I have my opinions and my thoughts. And it's a good time. We're having fun.

That's awesome. Yeah. Nicole, by the way, we haven't talked about 90 Day Fiancé right now. It has some of the most annoying people I think they've ever had. Andrew is possibly one of the worst reality characters I've ever seen.

He's a greasy, weird person who is like gaslighting this beautiful woman who just wants to come to America for makeup stores. I'm just so confused about, I'm glad they're breaking, it seems like they're breaking up. I'm glad. I think so. She didn't get on the plane from Serbia. So I'm glad.

Yeah, this season's not doing it for me. I was like, was there just like nobody who applied? Like what's going on? I'm missing. Yeah, this season's not doing it for me. I was like, was there just like nobody who applied? Like, what's going on? I'm missing my Angela. It feels like they all hate each other. Yes, they all despise each other. Yara and Jovi, I mean, they're not meant for this world.

It's horrible. Do you watch 90 Day Fiance? The only season I've watched is before the 90 days. The last one. With Darcy, my queen? Yes. Yes, with Darcy and Big Ed and Rose and all of them. Those are the ones I've watched is before the 90 days the last with Darcy my queen yes yes with Darcy and Big Ed and Rose and all them those are the ones I've watched oh so you watched a later season you gotta watch season one to watch the evolution of Darcy's face okay and just who she is okay I

will have you watched um on Discovery Plus the one that's called like it's the single life 90 day fiance the single life yeah I haven't seen it it's it's not too much is it not good it's not great but it's also not bad i will say this danielle is on it and she is iconic she goes on a date with this man who doesn't like her immediately and she's at one point she was just like, oh gosh, all this wind. Because the wind just like blew her hair around. And then she was like, what do you like to do? And he was like, travel. And she's like, mm-hmm, that's nice.

It's just. And then there's an episode of Bears All where she talks about how she sells sex toys. Danielle? Yes. Sean Robinson is laughing. Danielle is laughing as she's trying to explain a womanizer, which is like a clit sucker. The whole crew is laughing.

And then Caesar comes out and does her toes. No! He calls them little piggies. No! Caesar's not okay, right? He he's not well he's i'm really nobody is well or thriving that's so that is so the producers are geniuses but also like so awful like to go like and then you'll come out and give her a pedicure that's that's psychotic i love it i mean i i obviously love it it's all I want to watch. Okay, so we have our five-star segment,

which we're calling, for the time being, it's the five hallelujahs segment. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Five hallelujahs. This one comes from Gastfields, and it's titled, I Hurt Myself Laughing. The newest season of Newcomers had me literally in tears with laughter.

I made the mistake of doing an ab workout while listening. I pulled all the muscles on my neck laughing at Lauren and Nicole describing Madea using a calculator. Thanks. Honestly, that scene is iconic. I think about it often. Just jitters flopping, not putting in any sort of numbers in this calculator. It's so funny.

I was reenacting it yesterday for Mary Holland on Zoom. I was like, you have to watch this movie. Like it's the funny i was reenacting it yesterday for mary holland on zoom i was like you have to watch this movie like it's the scene is just amazing like and what did he hit you he owes you five billion trillion billion trillion billion lillian lillian dollars let's also shout out let's also shout out the dude who listens to podcasts while working out that is amazing people seem to do that, like, which I think is wild. Yeah.

But a lot of people have said, I've been, you know, on the internets and they were like, ah, I didn't know about them covering Madea. I still don't know about it. But the people who've like actually listened are like,

it's fun. Yeah. So if, I don't know, you have a friend who listened to our podcast who was like, I'm not for Madea. Think about why you're not for Madea. And get on board.

And get on board because we're having a great fucking time. I'll say this. Yeah. Star Wars. Cool. Great. Lord of the Rings. Cool. Great. This Tyler Perry is going to be nonstop laughs. And if you just like to laugh, you better listen to this. You better listen to this season

because it is gonna be so it's so wildly different and i love it i love it thank you i feel more prepared when i come to record because i'm like i understood everything same i know what's going on it's kind of amazing um so if you're out there please give us a five-star review we'll pick one to read on the next episode and we'll be back next week with another one of tyler perry's works so we'll see you then bye bye Thank you. that was a Hidgum original