Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - The Karate Kid (w/ Bill Hader)

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

This week, Lauren and Nicole take a trip to the Cobra Kai dojo to get into all things The Karate Kid with very special guest Bill Hader (Barry, SNL)! The group waxes (on and off, of course) a...bout the in-depth backstories of Daniel LaRusso (Ralph Macchio) and Mr. Miyagi (Pat Morita), the incredibly high expectations this movie set for both dating and martial arts training, and where Joe Pesci might possibly fit into this cinematic universe. Join us next week for our episode covering Bend It Like Beckham! Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a headgum original. This is a headgum original. This is it. This is the end of the line. Telling me. Did I tell you about the pool here? For Daniel Leruso. Is this the only pool you guys got? The future seemed far from terrific.
Starting point is 00:00:22 This place is a dump. You should go back to New Jersey. Hey, I know it's hard, but we're not quitters, are we? quite as, are we? Until he met the right girl. She's beautiful. I say she's beautiful. I think she's beautiful. Is that your address?
Starting point is 00:00:37 You got it. But that only angered the wrong guy. You know, Oaks Country Club at 930. Definitely. You gotta be nuts. And his troubles really began. You're not to push her. What are you going to pay?
Starting point is 00:00:56 Then, in one man, he found a man. He found a teacher. I promise teach karate. And a friend. Fighting all his last answer. How did you do that? No. First time.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Power. All body. Yeah. Make a perfect picture. How do I know if my picture is the right one? If come from inside you, always right one. Listen about the balance. Not just karate lesson for all.
Starting point is 00:01:28 of life. White tree. That's what I won't have to fight. Hey, karate kid. Let's make a move. You know, points or no points? You're dead meat. I don't have much of a cheering section. You got me.
Starting point is 00:01:45 In the end, it will be in Daniel's hands. In his body. And most of all, in his mind. in his mind. Concentrate, focus, power. Remember balance. No mercy. Columbia Pictures present
Starting point is 00:02:05 The Karate Kid. Hey, what kind of belt do you have? Canvas. You like? J.C. Penny, 398. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, baby, welcome to newcomers playing for the home team. It's me, Nicole Beyer, and me, Lauren Lapkis.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And, of course, we have Coach Anya and Coach Allie with an I-E watching from along the sidelines. And guess what? This, I love that it says IE. today. This season, we're covering 10 of the sports movies that we feel are so good they could win a karate tournament against all other sports films. Today we'll be watching the 1984 film starring Ralph Machio, Noriuki, Pat Marita, and Elizabeth Shue, The Karate Kid. Guess what? The Karate Kid is streaming on stars or it's available for fee on any of the other major streamers. And guess what? We're going to spoil the fuck out of this movie.
Starting point is 00:03:15 movie. Playing for the visiting team today, we are so excited to have Bill Hader. Bill Hader is an actor, writer, producer, and director known for co-creating and starring in the award-winning HBO series Barry and his eight years as a cast member on SNL and films like the Skeleton Twins Inside Out, Trainwreck, Super Bad, and Hot Rod. Thank you for being here, Bill. Yes, Bill, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. We're so pumped to talk about the karate kid with you. I know you begged us to do this. Yeah, I know, I kind of showed up. I was like, why aren't you guys doing karate kid?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Wait, Bill, what is your relationship to karate? My relationship to karate at all, like just karate? Yeah, do you do karate? I don't know. No, no, I never, I never, I don't like getting hurt. I don't like getting hit in the face. And I think it's because of this movie. I think this movie kind of made me not want to, I think some kids saw it and they're like,
Starting point is 00:04:14 I want to, like, get into karate and go to, like, dojo's exploded all over, you know, the U.S. after this movie. But for me, it was like, no, I don't. That Billy kid kicks a guy in the face. And I was like, that kick to the face for the end of the movie. I was like, I don't want to do with that. I don't want to do with that. I don't want this. Did you play any sports growing up?
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah, I mean, growing up, I grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and you had to, yeah, it's like, if you didn't play sports, you were kicked out. so it was like very big so it was like it'll lead the state yeah so it was like I played something yeah baseball football and basketball and I played basketball through into high school but I wasn't that great yeah it was just again it was like prerequisite to exist yeah wait Lauren have you done karate every day it's like so my passion yeah you're I have kind of known for that. I am known. I, no, I've never done karate, but I always thought as a kid that would be so cool.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Like, I remember thinking that would be really cool to take karate lessons and do that. But I never did. And watching this movie, it definitely made me think about how it was very popular growing up. And, like, kind of a thing for kids to do that I don't think is really talked about much now. I mean, nobody's suggesting it for my children. Well, I'll suggest it. There's a dojo down the street from my house, actually. There actually is.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I will see kids and karate geese, like, walking around, getting on the butt, you know. And I have three daughters and they're zero interest in karate. Yeah. Just bring them. They're children. They don't really have a choice, right? Well, not these days. They have too many choices.
Starting point is 00:06:02 No, no, but they were like, absolutely not. But they like Cobra Kai. They like that show. Okay. And I did watch a bunch of Cobra Kai, having never seen this, his mic my husband likes karate kid and he was like we got to watch so you are just totally lost I was raw dogging yes raw dogging I had no history no context high that was the New York times quote too raw dogging with everyone's raw dogging cobra kai yeah everybody's raw dogging
Starting point is 00:06:36 yeah that's that was the poll quote Everybody's raw dogging. Cobra Kai. They don't know shit about where it comes from. And I didn't. I didn't know, but I liked it. I liked it anyway. And then when I was watching this and I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:55 wait, is that the real guy? And Mike was like, yeah. And I was like, oh my God. I was like so, I knew Ralph Macho, but I didn't know the other guy was also now in Cobra Cuy. The blonde guy is in Cobra Cuy. Yeah, like it's kind of amazing for his career. He gets like this fucking star on a show.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I don't know. It's his baby, too. Oh, he made it. He made it. Yeah. I was like his, yeah, he was like the bad guy in a lot of 80s movies. Just One of the Guys was another movie. I remember that he was.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yes. Oh, that one of the guys. Wait, is that the one where the girl pretends to be a guy to go to like school or something? To school. Yeah, it's like to be like, I forget what the thing. But that was on HBO. It was. She's the man.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Yeah. And it was like Tutsi came out and they were like, what if we do Tutsi, you know, but with like a babe, you know. It was so stupid. Like, it would always play on TV. Yes, it would play on TV in the summer. I remember watching that and like there's a part, they of course cut around her tit, but there was a part where she would like show her, she's like changing or she shows her boobs
Starting point is 00:08:00 or something happens and everyone's like, well, it's like no, no, there is a moment where she as the boy becomes best, of course her best friend is this like nerdy guy. who is into James Brown, if you can remember, and he likes to dance like James Brown. And then he, of course, at the end, she's like, I love you. And he's like, oh, what are you like gay or something? And then she like opens and you see her breasts.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And this was like on HBO at like one in the afternoon. And I remember like my friends and I being like, what? Yeah, it was a big deal, just one of the guys. And the poster was her in a locker room with two, like, beach balls in front of her. Oh, my God. It was very 80s. It was very 80s.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yeah. But, like, that's so insane to just be like, are you gay? And it's like, look at these. And it's like, wowie, zowie. I just did a 180 on you. Now I like you. Now I can like you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I thought you were a man and disgusting. But now you're a lady with tits, and I'm on board. Yeah, this is, this doesn't go against God's message. Yeah, so. Yeah, so I think, yeah, that was a crazy one, but he was in that as the bad guy. And then he, I feel terrible. I don't know his name. I should know his name.
Starting point is 00:09:33 We'll tell you in a moment. It's, hold on, I can get there. No, I can't. William Zapka. Yeah. So he directed. I love that he made a short film. Yeah, he's the guy that was like, come on, let's
Starting point is 00:09:47 want to continue the character and stuff. Oh, yeah, it's super popular. Is Ralph Machio in it? Yeah. He is. Wait, maybe I'll watch it because I fucking loved this movie. Same. I loved it so much.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I loved this movie. I was like, why have I not fucking seen this? I would have watched this a hundred times growing up. It's like every 80s movie that I liked. It has everything. And the ending is so abrupt. to which I love. It truly is.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Goodbye. We're done. Yeah, I mean, that ending was like, John G. Avalston, who directed it, directed Rocky. Oh, my God. Wow. He has the weirdest career. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:29 We just watched that for the first time. This is Kid Rocky. Kid Rock. He has a weird career because. This is Kid Rock. It is Kid Rocky. That's what Kid Rock got his name. He was like.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Karate kid. It's like Kid Rocky. Wait, who just said that? I did. I'm Kid Rock. I'm Kid Rocky. You're like, Ruth, you were just Kid Rock. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'm stealing that. But John G. Alston had a weird career because he made like these really kind of weird movies in the early 70s that were kind of like, one's like kind of X-rated. And there's one called Joe that was like, Susan Sarandon's first movie. that's kind of strange, and then somehow he made Rocky. Like, it was kind of like this weird career shift. And then he did this movie and I think another sports movie.
Starting point is 00:11:24 He did a bunch of stuff. He did a movie called Neighbors with John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd that's not good. I've never seen that one. Very interesting guy. I've only seen the Seth Rogen neighbors with Zach Efferon. That's how they spell his name now, like, F-R-R-R-R. what did you guys like about the movie what did i like everything i loved the karate i loved ralph machio is i love him and my cousin viny and i think he's so hot and he's so charismatic
Starting point is 00:11:58 this is his second movie i googled it and he's such a natural he's a little tiny little guy and he has so much charisma and he's like i don't know if he's adding in lines or he's adding in little flavor a little pepper over here and there he's kind of like Oh, yeah, yeah, he talks like he's, I guess he's from New Jersey, but he's, nah, ma, come on. I know, he's, oh, what are you doing, ma, come on? And the mother's like, come on, what are you, Danny? Come on, get out of your own mama.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah, it's like very. Oh, God. It reminded me of. He's a fish out of water. Yes. Yeah. It reminded me of the mom in Big, and Big, it's my favorite movie. And so I already was, like, excited about that.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And then it was very, like, it's like every, every movie that I loved growing up is this. I just thought. this movie was about karate mainly and so I never wanted to watch it but it's really a love story it is about being bullied and growing up and fitting in and running on the beach those kids had such stamina and I couldn't believe how fast they could run on sand yeah and fight on sand yeah well I was happy for them that they were fighting on sand because I was like he gets to do his falls like into sand it's not that hard you know yeah yeah he's he's so good in this movie though remember he was in the outsiders too and he was like he's so good oh the
Starting point is 00:13:17 outsiders is great that was a great movie he's so good in the outsiders this is us on every episode everybody like bring ever seen it like what's the outsiders what's a movie i like no uh no outsiders is like yeah that's like that's fine if you haven't seen that but but yeah but that outsiders is kind of actually would be cool to watch because it's like all these it's like tom cruise and patrick Swayze and Muelo Estavis and Roblo. It's like all these people's first movie. That sounds good. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I love Patrick Swayze. So I'm on board. You'll like this movie. Wait, Lauren, do you? Yes. Oh, my God, he's amazing. Oh, I have a big old picture of him in my house. I love him so much.
Starting point is 00:13:59 What is it from? I think it's, I'm looking at it now. It's just a black and white. I think publicity picture from Dirty Dancing. okay well we should do the shot clock now since we're really jumping in the movie each of us will have 10 seconds on the clock to summarize the film and annie and alley will count us down and tell us when we're out of time so everybody just think for a second we're going to quickly summarize it however you want you know focus on the parts that matter to you okay do you want to
Starting point is 00:14:31 go first yeah i'll go first A kid from New Jersey moves to L.A. with his mom, and he's like, I don't fit in, but then he makes friends, and then he gets beat up, and then he finds karate. And then a nice maintenance man teaches him more karate, and then he wins. Maintenance man. He is a maintenance man. It is. It is. I was so confused because I was like, wait, he's a maintenance man, but then he is a mansion and a plethora of cars.
Starting point is 00:14:59 His storyline was like my favorite thing, but I, I, it's a, I. Well, we learned so much in truly while he's asleep. I know. It was, yes. We learned so much. Okay, Bill, do you want to go or you want me to go? I'll go, but I can't do better than Nicole. That was really good.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah, you got this. I will do my best. Kid moves to L.A. and gets beat up a lot, and then he has to learn karate. But first, he's got to, like, fix this guy's house. And he's like, I just fixed your house. He's a way to learn karate. All right, Lauren. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:43 A cute little boy moves from New Jersey to L.A. He's a fish out of water. I stole that. And he finds a girl that he thinks is cute. And she likes him back. But he likes to learn karate. But he likes to learn karate. Well, we got to talk about the romance part.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I like that. That's the pitch for the movie. They just went in and they were like, so they were like, we're like, we're going to just start throwing money at us. Okay, we love karate. They're like, wait, let me throw money at you. I'm literally going to throw money at you.
Starting point is 00:16:16 This is the greatest idea I've ever heard. Well, we do have to take a time out. We'll be back with more, the Karate Kid, after a word from our sponsor. Everybody say, ready, break, okay? Ready break! And we're back. Okay, so the karate kid was released on June 22nd, 1984.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It was written by Robert Mark Kemen, directed by John G. Adveson. And then we also, we know he directed Rocky. Okay, Bill, I can't say people's names. I'm very bad at names. I'm bad, too. It's so hard to read. Good. Well, okay, we're going to jump into the plot of the film.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Obviously, jump in wherever you want to mention things that you like. or I want to talk about. In 1984, 17-year-old Daniel Lu Russo, Ralph Machio, and his mother, Lucille, played by Randy Heller, moved from Newark, New Jersey to Reseda, Los Angeles. Is it Reseda Los Angeles?
Starting point is 00:17:15 I mean, I guess it's Recita, California. I think it's just Reseda, California. But it's basically Los Angeles because he's like palm trees. Their apartment's handyman is an eccentric but kind and humble Okinawan immigrant named Mr. Miyagi, played by Pat Marita.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Okay. Shocked by every single moment of The beginning. Truly. It was long. What were you guys were driving? What were you expecting?
Starting point is 00:17:40 I was expecting karate. Just immediate like, ah! Like just an opening fight scene and they're like, hey, kid, who are you? Yeah. Yeah, I was like Wax on, wax off.
Starting point is 00:17:49 That's all I had. That's all I had. I did not know anything besides Wax on Wax off. And I was also like had no idea where he was going to meet Pat Marita. I had no clue. So him being working in the building. Did you know it took place in, the United States, or did you think it took place?
Starting point is 00:18:05 I knew it took place in the United States. Oh, okay, okay. But nothing could have prepared me for a road trip and then them pushing the car. And then I love that lady who was like, I'm from New Jersey too. Take a left, take a right, go up the stairs, say hello to a troll. And then you'll find the handyman. I loved her. I wanted to see more of her.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I know. And then I was kind of surprised. We didn't get more of that guy who invited him to the party. He just, like, disappeared. I'm like, you kind of fucked his whole. life like the kid from the apartment that's true that's true that is true yeah well maybe he just made better friends maybe I don't know yeah I always think but yeah but Mr. Miyagi is just such a mysterious as a kid watching this you wanted that person because I I always felt the most
Starting point is 00:18:52 heartbreaking thing was that feeling of being bullied and then the scenes with the mom after he's bullied when he comes home yeah those are like watching it as a kid was very emotional because you were like, oh, the shame of, like, your parents seeing you like that. And now that I'm a parent, those scenes are still very, they're very well done. And they're very effective. And that you wish you had, there's nothing more satisfying. I remember seeing this movie in the theater than when the kids are beating him up. And Mr. Miyagi comes up the fence and jumps down and beats him up.
Starting point is 00:19:25 The place went nuts. Everybody started. Everybody, I remember being like, I was six when this movie came out in the whole play started cheering. Everybody was so stoked that the maintenance guy, who was on happy days, everybody knows him from happy days, like jumps down and just starts kicking their shit out of these bad guys. And it was like, thank God. And it is.
Starting point is 00:19:47 It's like it's such a crowd pleasing. You get like a massive proud pleasing moment like kind of in the first third of the movie, which is like, that's, I remember that's saying something that the movie's got you that, you know, well. Yeah. I feel like we're really missing. on moments like that in the movies now like when you go to it we don't obviously most people don't even go to the movies anymore it feels like but having like that I did last night what would you see what did you see I saw Wolverine and Deadpool that's not the name of the movie crazy Wolverine
Starting point is 00:20:16 deadpool the the deadpool I saw Wolverine and my friend Deadpool but people were going nuts people like they did a lot of stuff for the fans um and yeah people were clapping and cheering and I it made me happy. No, that makes me so happy. Everyone's having a nice time. I love that. It's still a thing. It's still a thing.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I mean, I just have to say, I don't go anywhere and I never do anything. So this is why I don't know that. It probably has always been a thing. I just, like, don't go outside. No, it has changed a little bit with streaming and stuff. But that's a whole other, there's like 80 podcasts or about that. Yeah, we don't need to talk about that. Yeah, we don't need to get into all streaming.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah, let's talk about, yeah, his Halloween costume, the shower. I mean, that was made. It's so incredible. It's so quintessentially 80s moment. It's so perfect. It was so fun. And that was, it was kind of like a, yeah, you dreamed about that. Like, that Elizabeth Shoe, she became kind of like for, I think, a generation of dudes,
Starting point is 00:21:26 especially in my, it was like the quintessential, like her. And it was like, Elizabeth Shoe, and Phoebe Cates and Gremlins. It was like... She's so... They're both so cute. First, so cute, we're like... Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:39 What if I let me to grow like that? You know, it was very... But I will say, the hairstylist didn't like her. They really made her look older with that hair. She did look older, but that kind of was the hair, wasn't it? That was the hair of the time. Yeah. So it's like they were aged up.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I had babysitters who had that... Yeah, I had babysitters that look. But I do think, all those movies, that's the joke and all the high school kids are played by like 30 year old. Yeah. I did see that he is 22, Ralph Marita.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I mean, Ralph Marino, Ralph Machio. And she was 20. He's 22. You know, yeah, she was in her 20. So it's like, it makes sense. But he looked like a little kid. Well, he looked like a little kid. He's tiny.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He's like, he's a baby face. When they're dancing, you know, when they're dancing, it is kind of like, hey buddy leave that young lady alone oh my god wait what are you doing there this is a total aside but i just saw a clip on instagram that was from dawson's creek which i loved growing up and there's a relationship with pacey and a teacher it's Joshua jackson and a teacher he's 15 she's 39 and she's like pursuing him it's so nasty and i remember watching that and being like
Starting point is 00:22:57 This is great. Like, we don't think anything's wrong with that. It's so gross. That's the reason why I wasn't allowed to watch Dawson's Creek. My mother was like, that's not okay. And it's not okay. It's not. What does a 15-year-old have for you?
Starting point is 00:23:11 Nothing. No. They don't even pay taxes. They don't know the struggle. Yeah. That's what you need in a partner. Yeah. I just want to know that they've struggled.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Just a little. Just a little. You're 15, but have you struggled? Oh, okay, so at a beach party the following day, Daniel befriends Ali Mills, Elizabeth Shue, a high school cheerleader, drawing the attention of her arrogant ex-boyfriend, Johnny Lawrence, which is such a good name, William Zapka, who happens to be a black belt and a top student at Cobra Chi Dojo.
Starting point is 00:23:47 This particular dojo is known for teaching an aggressive form of karate. It was so aggressive. Johnny and his gang attacked Daniel and give him a black eye. This was so fucked up. He also breaks the shit out of him. I was like, chill the fuck out, dude. Like, it was so intense. And they're so 80s villains.
Starting point is 00:24:03 It's like you see exactly where all of the tropes come from because it's like, I mean, it's that. Well, that's the, I mean, this movie has the, you know, put him in a body bag just became a thing that people just said. And especially the way that guy says it. He's like a little rat face. Put him in the body bag. And then sweep the leg was huge. sweep the leg was like corner for like plain dirty you know i became like a term for playing dirty
Starting point is 00:24:31 when i was 19 i was in a sketch show at second city with some older guys who i didn't know and i somehow got put into this thing and they it was all these references i literally just got them all yesterday i went oh that's why they said put them in a bible oh that's what they said sweet they just like all came back to me i was like i never knew what was going on and they probably hated me but yeah i love thinking about 19 year old lauren just being like uh-huh a body bag. Oh, yeah, I'll sweep legs. Do they need to brew? You can put me in a body bag. Whatever you say, you're 24.
Starting point is 00:25:04 You're a man. So, okay, out of curiosity, Daniel visits Cobra Kide is dismayed to see Johnny leading at the front of the class. That was sad. This is devastating. I know. He thought it was cool and he was like, want, wamp, um, later on Johnny and his friends ride a bike, um, And they bike him off the road, injuring him even more. Throwing his bike away at home, Daniel tells his mom he needs to learn karate to be able to defend himself. After Daniel and his mom leave, it's revealed Mr. Miyagi overheard their conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Which is so sweet. He's like, I can help with this. I mean, it was so cute. Yeah. So you can do. I really do like those moments. Those are like when I rewatch this with my kids during the pandemic, those are the moments that I, like, really stuck with me. It's like, when he comes home to his mom, I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I know. This is a nightmare. He's hiding it with the glasses. He's like, it's California, you wear glasses. It's like, that was so sad. She's like, are you on something? Go make me a calzone.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Minute made. Purple stuff, sunny deep. So the next day, Daniel returns from school and finds his bike fixed on his doorstep. Daniel goes to Mr. Miyagi to ask if he did it, which he confirms. Mr. Miyagi then shows Daniel his bonsai tree collection. and how to trim the tree
Starting point is 00:26:27 using the powers of trust, visualization, and concentration. I fucking loved this. I loved it. I know. He's so nice and sweet to him. And I mean, I like that they don't reveal anything until later, but then when you know what's going on with him
Starting point is 00:26:44 and you're like, oh, he needs this, like, father's son dynamic. And so does Daniel, and it's, like, really sweet. And we don't even talk about Daniel's father. We don't really know anything about that. Listen, he's still in Newark. Yeah, that's all you got to know. Yeah, he's not there. He just, he's not there.
Starting point is 00:27:02 He's, yeah, but it is, it is like, it was also cool seeing this as a kid. It was like, anybody who was tough in movies was like, you know, a little crazy. Like, that was the whole thing was that they were nuts. And it was so great seeing Mr. Miyagi, it was like the polar opposite was like, you can be tough. But also, there was this like, disqual. to it and he personified the discipline. And it was like, he had this quiet confidence about him that you were just like, I want someone like this.
Starting point is 00:27:33 You don't want Chuck Norris in your life. You just don't want that guy in your life, you know, because he's legitimately nuts. So that was very good to see as a young kid. I was like, maybe Daniel's dad's like Joe Pesci and he's like often good fellas being bad. It's like your father Your father's being made
Starting point is 00:27:56 And then you got assassinated We got to start over Daniel Daniel your father killed Billy back We gotta get out of here Your name's Daniel now Whatever it was before doesn't matter Yeah it doesn't matter Your name is Daniel
Starting point is 00:28:12 But you're a good cellar kid It does karate So Johnny and his Coburg and continue to bully Daniel. On Halloween, Daniel goes to the Halloween dance, dressed as a shower to avoid anyone recognizing him, which was Mr. Miyagi's idea, which was so cute. Yeah, it was so cute.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Allie finds him, and after sharing a dance inside the shower curtain, she convinces Daniel to venture out. I love how much she loves him from the start. There's something so sweet. This is like such a, when you're a kid, like, that's like the dream. Like, the cute girl is immediately into you. And then she's like, I know that's him in that shower curtain. I don't even have, no one even has to tell me.
Starting point is 00:28:50 She just goes over and opens. It's like, that's so cute. I will say as a guy, I, I disliked this part because it gave you really false hope. You're like, well, this is just how girls are. You show up. You say, I'm from out of town. And they're like, well, I'm in love with me. I don't care what my past is.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It's all about you skinny Italian boy. You know, he's just, well, but this tiny man comes from Newark, New Jersey. and then is nice to her because her ex-boyfriend is borderline abusive. He pushes her, he breaks her shit, he screams at her. Like, he's, I would love Daniel too. I'd be like, oh my God, this man will take me to Recita. We'll be poor, but he'll be nice to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I know they all mocked his mom's car. I was like, that's so fucking rude. That's like crazy. that's crazy that was the last truck I love you I'm like not that he pushed her down
Starting point is 00:29:55 and snatched all the stuff but it's like But they insulted his mom mom's car I can't believe The physical violence is worse The physical violence Pushing her was pretty bad
Starting point is 00:30:09 But the mom's car They can't help that But I do feel like that was like An 80s villain thing was that it was all very black and white, and it taught you as a kid, like bullies are just, it's like Stephen King books.
Starting point is 00:30:24 It's like the bad guys, it's like they are only bad. They beat, they, and they see a dog, they kick it to death. There's no, no redeeming qualities. There's not a, there's not a three dimension anywhere near them. It's just like, I exist to be mean.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And then at the last second, I'm going to be nice. For no reason. I know. He throws it for half a second. I couldn't believe it. You deserve this. I was like,
Starting point is 00:30:54 bullshit. One second ago, you wanted him dead. But okay. That's all you needed to do is beat him in a tournament and then they'd be like, I was wrong for pushing my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, I didn't like it. Yeah. Okay, so in the boys' bathroom, Daniel sprays Johnny, who's dressed up as a skeleton with a water hose, his payback. Johnny and his gang. This was like my favorite moment. It was so fun. That was Balzy that kind of said that Daniel wasn't afraid. He wasn't like a pushover, which I like. I feel like
Starting point is 00:31:24 they showed it like he always got up. Like he always got up unless he was like too hurt. And I loved that because he was like, I'm not giving up. I just don't have the tools in my belt yet. So then a bunch of skeletons chase Daniel down and brutally beat him until Mr. Miyagi hops a fence and easily defeats all of them. I really did love that part. Because I was like, what is Mr. Miyagi doing? Was he stalking Daniel? It's so well done. That scene is so good, too, when he appears and he starts climbing the fence and he's over the guy is like one of the best.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I will, I get very excited. There's certain moments in movies that I remember when he came up like that and the audience just went crazy. Yes. And it was just one of the best moments. I love that. So anytime I see it, I get a little chill just because I'm like, oh, my God, I remember being in movies. Oh, I love that. It really is a great scene.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And it made me, like, love Mr. Miyagi even more. I was like, oh, my God, he's like a guardian angel. He's so sweet. I know. He's so amazing. And then I always was, I was wondering about karate because I don't know about karate. But then he just pops over and he's like, like, to their stomach and then just done. Like, it's just like, are you just, like, you're just out?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Like, what happens? Like, does anyone know? I think it's, like, boxing. You give you a nice hard chop. You're done. I think he knows exactly where to hit them to or something like and how hard. So it's just like if one hit there, we'll just drop a person. But somehow, I mean, when you watch it now, though, I remember watching it with the kids.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And when Ralph Macho was getting beat up by then, my kids got like really upset because he gets the living shit kicked out. And you're like, well, he wouldn't just have a black eye. I mean, it's so brutal. But it helps for the movie because you're like, oh, my God, I want him to get revenge so bad. You know, I think it makes the Miyagi scene. They couldn't just give him a talking to like, we're going to beat you up, you know? Like, they need to like kick the shit out of them, you know, to feel it, I guess. It was, it did really help build that tension and it makes it so much more exciting.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But it's, I don't feel like people would do that now in a movie. Like, I don't think you'd make a kid's movie where the kids movie where the kids getting beaten up like that like so intense like yeah maybe not say they would be like hey man you're lame and he gets bad instagram comments we're gonna we're gonna follow you and mr miagi's like i'm gonna follow you and it's like oh thank so so daniel's so amazed by this moment and he asks mr miagi to teach him karate although mr miagi declines he agrees to accompany Daniel to Cobra Kai to resolve the conflict. They meet the sensei, John Creece, Martin Cove, an ex-special enforcers Vietnam fat, who callously dismisses the peace offer. I'm like, these are
Starting point is 00:34:23 children, by the way. Yes, I was like, you're an adult and you're being a maniac. You're absolutely wild. So shitty. Mr. Miyagi then proposes that Daniel enter the upcoming under 18 All-Valley Karate Championship tournament to compete against Crease's students on equal terms. He then requested the bullying cease while Daniel trains. Creece agrees to the tour. terms. But war instead of Daniel does not show up for the tournament, the harassment will continue for both of them. Which is so wild. This adult is like, after, after the tournament, we're going to fucking kill both of you. Like, it's so nuts. Yeah, that's kind of, yeah, because if someone said that in reality, you would just go, well, now I'm going to go to the police.
Starting point is 00:35:01 These people are threatening me. I'm like, Daniel has so much pressure. He doesn't know karate at all. I know he's going to be in a tournament. I'm like, okay, that's terrible. That was kind of a weird thing it is like if you don't go to the term we're going to burn your house down and you're like well then why don't you just like go well no you can't say that to me that's insane in reality a lawyer would show
Starting point is 00:35:23 up and be like did you say that you're going to beat them up are you out of your mind my little like Amazon pop up thing had a little fact about so the actor who played Johnny was like in that he decided a backstory for his character that his sensei was
Starting point is 00:35:41 his like father figure and he didn't have a good father figure so he was like really so he gave himself a backstory to make that feel like more because there really was not much there yeah there really it was a very superficial thing of him just being like I'm tough behind him so I kind of like he did that I like that too because to me I was like his backstory is he beats his mom up he beats his siblings up he's just like killing all the time he obviously had trouble I mean he's just in bed he's just asleep like this. Yeah, sleeping with, yeah, his fist clenched, his jaw clenched. Just, like, fighting people in his dreams.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yeah, there's just, there was no school therapist back then in the 80s to be like, what's going on with you? What happened? Why are you guys dressing up like skeletons and chasing a new kid? So Daniel's training starts with waxing and washing several dirty cars. Later on, Lucille drives Daniel and Alley on their first date to the golf and stuff since he doesn't have his license yet. Daniel picks back up his training by sanding the wooden floors in Mr. Miyagi's garden as well as painting his fence and house. What?
Starting point is 00:36:51 How does Mr. Miyagi have such a big house and all these? I don't, did they explain that and I missed it? Yeah, I wasn't sure if he was his landlord and not just the handyman because I was like maybe he was to see he's a landlord. And then he has this little office that he makes these trees in, but he has a house. Yeah, I always thought he was. was that he owned that property or something. That was my... That he probably had a couple of apartment buildings
Starting point is 00:37:14 in the recita area. That was my thought. That's your backstory. But also, it's like, yeah, I mean, it was the 80s too, so it's like, the person just can't have like a normal house, you know? Right, right. You're like seeing lost boys
Starting point is 00:37:30 and they move into this house and you're like, this is the coolest craziest house I've ever seen. Every house was huge, you know? It's like, all right. But yeah, yeah, that was my, when I was a kid, I was like, oh, well, he's doing well for himself. He owns a lot of problems. So maintenance pays a lot, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Well, he's the king of recita. That's nice. When Daniel becomes frustrated with his training, Mr. Biagi demonstrates that the repetition of these chores has helped Daniel learn defensive blocks through muscle memory. I loved this. Yeah, that's the most famous thing. That's the most famous thing of the whole movie. and I remember that blowing my mind because you really did not understand
Starting point is 00:38:11 why he was doing all that. And then when he's like, I quit and he goes, and he tries to hit him and he does everything, again, you were like, oh my gosh, this is the greatest movie ever made. That is so smart. That is good. That's a good movie.
Starting point is 00:38:25 That's a good, that's good writing. I love it. He practices balance by standing on the ledge of a robot while Mr. Miyagi fishes, as well as doing karate poses on top of a log at the beach. I really liked those little. those little moments. Me too.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I don't know how much of that is even true, but I've never seen that really in other Kung Fu movies where people are cleaning. They were just, you know, making up their own rules. It's fun. Cleaning and raking and then it's, you know. But yes, I don't know how much of that is real, but it works in the movie as a kid.
Starting point is 00:39:00 You're like, oh, and I think parents loved it because they could get their kids to do chores and they think, oh, I'm, you know, the Katie would be like, oh, my parents teach me how to offend myself. Yeah, I mean, my whole life I heard wax on wax off. I had no idea what that meant. And when it happened, I was like, oh, it's wax on, wax off. And then I still didn't know where it was going, which is great.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Truly did it. It's a really a fun way to watch a movie. Yeah. Yeah. I was doing that in my house. I was just moving my arms up and down. I was like, I can't fight. Okay, tired of waiting for Allie outside her country club dance for their date,
Starting point is 00:39:36 Daniel peers into the ballroom and sees Johnny kissing her on the dance floor. Johnny spots and the kitchen doors swing open with a clatter revealing Daniel on the floor with spaghetti all over him. A little bit of New Jersey. The entire ballroom erupts with laughter and Daniel leaves right before Allie punches Johnny in the face for his behavior. Johnny sucks. Johnny's like disgusting and her parents like didn't care.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Like so that was gross. So she's dancing with her dad and then her mom's like, you're dancing with the most handsome man. Can I have him? I was like, I hate that. And then the villain comes up and starts dancing with her. She doesn't want to. And then he kisses her against her will.
Starting point is 00:40:13 She punches him in his face, which was amazing. And then her mom's like, it's almost like she wasn't like allowed to say more lines, like as the actor. Because she was like, up, up, up, up. But I'm like, you need to say. Yeah, like they were like, no, no, no, no. Anything else we've got to give her a bump. So no, no, no, no. Just a reaction, please.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I guess, no, just a reaction, please. And no, no noise, no noise. Don't move, don't run after her and try to help her. And when he gets knocked over with the spaghetti, I was like, that's so 80s, like, to be, like, in a pile of spaghetti for some reason. And that people would laugh at him from that, too, is very 80s. Nobody has ever laughed at anybody. Adults would not laugh at a kid. Like, they're just evil.
Starting point is 00:41:01 But that was always in 80s movies where it's like. rich white adults are evil who go to like country clubs are just they're just evil people yeah so they just laugh they're like look at him the italian boy with a spaghetti all over no i didn't like yeah that stuff is all but yeah but also just johnny's energy uh like is anybody just noticing his energy just at all like at the dancer's like hey how's it going like no one's talking that No, that he's, like, coped up. He's definitely hooked up. No one's clocking that he's got massive issues. I think now people wouldn't even let him in the door. They're like, okay, there's this guy he's like crying and he just said he's crying and he doesn't know why.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And he's like freaking out over here. Let's have him dance with our daughter. You know, it just makes no sense. I was so glad to clock the shit out of him. Me too. That was also like, that was just like a great little moment. And then Daniel didn't see any of it. because he was too busy wiping tomato sauce out of his eyes.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So he's like, she loves him. I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah, that's also in all the 80s movies is just like the main character loving the girl but thinking, like seeing the wrong thing. And yeah, that's a trope. She clearly loves you. She spends him so much time with you.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah, loves Daniel. Yeah, I mean, yeah, Johnny. She didn't make funnier Halloween costume? She didn't do anything. She loved it. That right there just shows, like, she likes you out of the gate. And her friends don't understand at all. Our friends are like, can you just die?
Starting point is 00:42:39 Like, they literally hate him. That is what one of her friends say. Can you just die? He's like, oh, my God, girl. Everyone's angry in this town. Everyone is so mad and received. And those girls, they're like, he keeps getting this shippied out of him, but he won't die. It's like, so let's laugh at him.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yeah, it's like, get him out of here. He's a cockroach. No one wants you and recita. Get it through your brain. And the mayor of recita shows up. Get the fuck out. Why won't you die? Don't you get it?
Starting point is 00:43:19 We don't like you. You can beat whoever you want. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's not like, yeah. Yeah, that was the thing about this movie was, like, yeah, seen as a kid, it really made just, like, dating seemed terrifying, you know? Yeah. Like, it just seemed, it just seemed that if you made one person mad, you made, like, an entire city mad.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah. Like, they were all linked, and they all were going to be against you. But it works for the movie, because you do feel like everything is against him, and it's just him and Mr. Miyagi versus everybody. And I get, but yeah, it's, I don't think you could do it like that now. I just think people would be like, give me a break. Yeah, but I feel like, I feel like what's interesting in thinking about these movies and how they, like, affect you. Like, growing up, there were so many movies where the girl likes the popular guy, but he's mean. And then she's supposed to be with the nerd.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And I watched all of those. And I feel like I still just like the popular guy at school. And they didn't like me. But I would be like, I love that asshole. So you would like Johnny's. Yeah, I would be, yeah, you would like a Johnny? You'd be like, but look at him. I wouldn't like Johnny.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm in love. No, because she doesn't like him in this. It's like whoever the girl likes is like what I'm like, oh, that's what I should be doing. He smashed my radio. I like him. He threw me in the sand. He's cute. Something about him.
Starting point is 00:44:50 He's mysterious. I just want to see what makes him tick. I'm like, don't worry. It's nothing. Yeah, yeah. He's got to learn about the hard way. He's got anything going on. Okay, so here comes my favorite part, though.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Mr. Miyagi drunkenly opens up to- This is your favorite part? Well, because it's the emotion, not my favorite, but it's my emotional. I felt very like, oh my God, Mr. Miyagi, I can't believe they gave him this depth. That was so shocked. Mr. Miyagi drunkenly opens up to Daniel about his life, including the tragic loss of his wife and child, in childbirth, and his child, and the Manzanar internment camp, he was serving with the 442nd Infantry Regiment during World War II in Europe.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Daniel discovers Mr. Miagi received the Medal of Honor when Mr. Miyagi falls asleep drunkenly. And he's kind of like, no, no, no. He doesn't want to talk about it. He reads all these articles where he finds all these papers that were saved that explain what happened. I'm like, this is the saddest fucking backstory for Mr. Miyagi. I can't believe this is what he's working with.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Like, I'm like, this is terrible. But also he was holding his backstory in his hand as he fell asleep. Yeah, that's true. He was like, I hope nobody sees this. Hong shoe, honkshoo. It's his backstory on it and it's like a notebook. He's like, before I pass out, let me just get my backstory real quick. You're right.
Starting point is 00:46:11 They do kind of shoehorned in. I like to read my backstory to fall asleep. Before I go to bed every night, got to remember where I came from. I suggest you try this, Daniel. Daniel falls asleep holding a paper that's like, I moved from New Jersey. I moved from New Jersey Pretty girl, ouch. Yeah, because why would he be reading
Starting point is 00:46:39 that over and over again? It's like, he definitely knows what happened. And like, it's for sure. How would we know? You're right. You're right. But it makes him so, it gives so much to this character.
Starting point is 00:46:52 So it is amazing that they give us to him. Yeah. And then it gives so much importance to like the ghee that he gives to Daniel and stuff. Oh, my God. sweet. This was so sweet. So on Daniel's 18th birthday, Mr. Miyagi gives him a karate ghi, his late wife made
Starting point is 00:47:07 for the tournament, and one of his own cars, which is just so nice. That was so generous. It was so generous, but then he has a hundred cars, so was it generous? When Daniel confesses, he's nervous about the tournament, so generous. It was, I was like, so generous.
Starting point is 00:47:26 It's like, he's such a mom, like, so, Generous. Well, he is being so generous. You go over there and say thank you. He gave you his dead wife. He made this.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Oh, my God. That is so generous. You do not. You're not keeping this. Give that back. No, no, no, no. You take this right back. Too much.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Too much. This is so generous. But I actually felt like Daniel really. Daniel really understood that with the geek because he was like, I understand if you want this patchback. at the end. I was like, that was really, that was very thoughtful of Daniel to not just assume it's his now. He understood the meaning. There's a nice kindness. They're the only nice people in the town. Yes, you're right. Racina's just full of the meanest people. And they're like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:48:15 you're nice. You care about me. So Mr. Miyagi reminds him the importance of personal balance of that martial arts training is as much about training the spirit as the body. Daniel tells Mr. Miyagi, he is the best friend he's ever had. And Mr. Miyagi goes, you're okay too. and I loved it. Daniel drives to the golf and stuff to find Allie and apologize. They kiss and drive off in his nuke her. I know, and she's so into it.
Starting point is 00:48:39 She's like, how fast is this thing? He's like, let's not find out. Let's not find out. I wondered if that was improvised. He's got a funny little, like, he's got a funny little thing. It's also crazy. You know, she's at the end of Back to the Future. She's like, and so that was the other thing growing up
Starting point is 00:48:56 where it was like, man, she's like moved on and gone back to the future with Marty McFly. Like, as a kid, I was like, Daniel's son blew that somehow. And now she's with Marty McFly. And then adventures in babysitting, which I did enjoy.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And then leaving Las Vegas, and you were like, okay, she lost it. She had a tough time. She's the same person. She became an alcoholic. She came a massive alcoholic. Oh, she was in cocktail.
Starting point is 00:49:29 With also with Tom Cruise. She's in cocktail. We've never seen that. Should we do a Tom Cruise season? We probably could. I think you should do it in Elizabeth's shoe season because she's in some of these great movies, but Cocktail is pretty terrible. I mean, it's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:49:44 It's a fascinatingly bad movie. Okay. Yeah, cocktail's pretty crazy. Huh. But I remember seeing cocktails as a kid because she, she don't see her, but she takes her shirt off in front of Tom Cruise and you see just her bare back. How much of that. And my kid, and my kid, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I,
Starting point is 00:50:00 my kid, mine was like, wait a minute, this is like, I can't handle this. No, but she's, that's, that's, you know, that's, uh, Daniel son's girlfriend. So protective of Daniel. I was like, no. Does he know what was this happening? Like, you did what? You tweeted on Daniel? Tom Cruise?
Starting point is 00:50:23 After the tournament, some bartender? Some bartender. So now it's the. day of the tournament. I'm honestly nervous for him because I'm just like, he's not going to be good. Mr. Biagi tells the person at the check-in desk that Daniel's a black belt. I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And he can, I was like, that's a week. He passes Ali a black belt to sneak him in. That was so cool how he saw it. He kind of saw it in a bag and he like tricked her and kind of was like, look over here. That was cute. Daniel surprises the audience and competitors at tournament by reaching the semifinals. He was, I was very surprised. Now, of course, I understand it's a movie where it's going to have a happy ending probably
Starting point is 00:51:00 and whatever. But I was still like, that's kind of amazing that he's, he starts off really bad. Like, yeah. He's a total, he's like running away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah, he's scared. And that's like, and those cutaways to Mr. Miyagi are so funny where he's like, oh my God, what are they done? You know?
Starting point is 00:51:19 And it has a very famous song, which is you're the best around. No, is that famous from this? Because I was feeling like that. Yes. And then that became like, just became like,
Starting point is 00:51:30 a movie. It's like I of the Tiger or something. It just became a thing that people did over. Wait, what's the Eye of the Tiger from? What movie's that from? That was, uh, wasn't that, which one is that Rocky? Oh, is that Rocky 2? I think it's not the Rocky we watched. What's the one in the Rocky
Starting point is 00:51:46 we watched? Do, do, do, do, do, do that's, uh, um, the training montage. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Wait, that's the tiger, right? No, but that wasn't what it was, was it? that wasn't it? The internet is saying
Starting point is 00:52:02 that it's Rocky 3. Yeah, I was like, what's in Rocky 1? It's just the song. It's a Rocky 1 is just a Rocky theme. Oh. The Rocky theme, the regular Rocky theme. What's that?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Rocky's doing a thing he's going to get. He's going to go. He's going to get it. Rocky did it. Adrian's going to come. Adrian. Adrian. Adrian.
Starting point is 00:52:29 That's our new favorite. thing we love it so we're new to common things we are oh wait oh yeah that's what it is bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum he's doing it he's got two turtles name cuff and link Oh, Lauren, I meant to text this to you. Cuff and Link are, they've passed. They died? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:53:09 I'm sorry. I don't know. I think they died of natural causes. And we saw a picture of them living happily with Sylvester. So I'm not really pleased about this. But it was a long time ago that he made the movie. So I guess it would make sense. I mean, I assume they were dead.
Starting point is 00:53:26 It was like 36. He made the Rocky the first, like 40 years ago. turtles live for fucking ever though it's crazy um well back to the karate kids so johnny advances to the finals crease crease is that how you say his name instructs his second best student bobby the least vicious of daniel's tormentors to disable daniel bobby reluctantly does so severely injuring daniel's knee and getting himself disqualified this was so it was so sad and the kids like i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry and it's like they made me do it yeah the guys suddenly grow a contract at the right at the wrong moment. They really do. They all feel bad right when they're doing the shit that's like insane. And that also gave me a false thing as a kid where I was like,
Starting point is 00:54:10 oh, bullies, when they do something bad, you will immediately feel bad. And that's not true. Yeah, and that's not true. No, they take only in many years. They stay excited. They don't go, oh, man, I'm so sorry. No, they're like, I'll fuck you up again tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:54:24 No, I did kind of wonder, I did kind of wonder if maybe he wasn't going to win. Maybe there would be an interesting ending to this where it would be like a learning thing where he wouldn't win. Like Rocky? Right. Right. And the director, now that we know it's the same director,
Starting point is 00:54:38 maybe he wanted to do it again. But no. He's like, this is my thing, you know. I make sure they don't win, you know. And the dog doesn't win. You know, but they get the girl at the end. I don't know. That's just my thing.
Starting point is 00:54:48 You do what you want, though. Yeah, he should have had at the end. It should have been Daniel being like, Ali! Ali! Yeah. Oh, I would. It would have died if that happened.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I would have died. That would have been so awesome. Ellie. So he's in the locker room and the physician tells Daniel that he cannot continue. And Daniel believes if he quits, his tormentors will have gotten the best of him
Starting point is 00:55:13 so he convinces Mr. Miyagi to use a pain suppression technique to help him continue, which we saw earlier, which was really cool. And Daniel returns to fight as Johnny is about to be declared the winner by default. The match is a seesaw battle with neither able to break through the other's defense. It's very intense.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And then it's very intense. And then the match is halted when Daniel uses a scissor-leg technique to trip Johnny, delivering a blow to the back of his head and giving Johnny a nosebleed. Crease directs Johnny to sweep the leg, to sweep Daniel's injured leg. An unethical move. Johnny is horrified at the order, but reluctantly agrees. I know. Horrified, but does it? Yeah, which is so wild.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I was like, what? As the match resumes, the score is tied two-to-two. Johnny seizes Daniel's leg and deals a vicious elbow. doing further damage. This is wild. Daniel, standing with difficulty assumes the crane stands, a technique he observed Mr. Miyagi performing on a beach. Johnny lunges toward Daniel who jumps and executes a front kick to Johnny's face,
Starting point is 00:56:09 scoring the winning point of becoming the new champion. Having gained newfound respect for his nemesis, Johnny presents the trophy to Daniel himself as an enthusiastic crowd, carries Daniel while Miyagi looks on proudly. And then it goes, credits. They're like, we're out. Goodbye. So fast.
Starting point is 00:56:24 But I think that's all you need. Like, I don't need to know anything else. So I'm just like, he won. I agree. I actually rewound it because I was like, let me see why this is so abrupt. And I went, I actually love this. I watched the ending twice. I was like, I love it.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Emotionally, you're just like this. And then it's this release that he won. And then they're like, now get out. You know, and so you walk, you leave the theater like, leave the theater like going insane. You're like, if it just happened, you know what I mean? It's like, you know, if they had gone to like him with like, you know, playing mini golf again or whatever, you would have had a chance to calm down. But instead, I just remember coming out
Starting point is 00:57:01 and, like, the light hitting us and being with my dad and my sister. And I was like, ha, like, you were just, you couldn't believe it. You were just like, he won. He won. You were just so stoked. Yeah, I love that.
Starting point is 00:57:16 It really is such a good out for the movie because it's like, boom, we're out. Also, they don't do the freeze frames anymore to end movies. They used to do those all the time, like him smiling and then the freeze frame. I just don't do that anymore. I used to do that constantly.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I miss it. And then like credits. Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. But he was like, yep. I loved it because he says sweep the leg and then he does it. So you're like, it really does, it builds in a really great way because he's already broken his leg. So you think, oh, he's going to come back and do the crane thing.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And when it's like, no, no, no, no. He's going to hurt him again. Yeah. And then you're like, well, now he's really fucked. Like it does a really good job of like, I, again, watching this with my kids, I got caught up in it again where I was like, oh, God, I forgot that he like hurts his leg again. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And he looks like he's in pain. I thought it might be like a bait and switch thing where he was kind of like, kind of like limping on the news like, I'm actually fine. Yeah. No, but he was like, oh, he's actually hurt. Yeah. Well, you guys haven't seen karate kid too, huh? No.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Okay, so karate kid two picks up and this was blew my mind. I saw that in a theater again with my dad and my sister picks up the second after karate kid one ends. Whoa! You should watch it. It picks up the minute it ends. Oh, we got to watch that. So when I was a kid, it was like,
Starting point is 00:58:41 I got to see like what happened. Yeah, that's amazing. Five seconds later, you know what I mean? That's great. So it's pretty great. I love that. Was Hillary Swank a karate kid? She was the next karate kid.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Maybe I've seen that. I like vaguely remember. I remember that. Yeah. The next karate kids. They made, I think they made three with Ralph Machia, but I only saw the first two. And the second one had a really famous song to the Peter Satera song. Oh, I'm not going to sing it, but I'll play it.
Starting point is 00:59:13 You know what I'll sing it. That's perfect. I am a hero. Please stop. Please stop. Please stop. Don't do that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Oh, honey. Don't do that. Let's talk about the reception. of this film. The film was a huge success. It grossed $100 million in the U.S. and Canada. It was the highest grossing film of 1984, and Hollywood's biggest sleeper hit of the year
Starting point is 00:59:36 and holds an 89% of Rotten Tomatoes. People love the film, and I understand why. People loved it. It was so good. The Crouty Kid launched the career of Machio, who had turned into a teen idol. It revitalized the acting career of, how do I say his last name?
Starting point is 00:59:50 Marita. Marita. Marita. Previously known for a comedic role as Arnold Unhappy Days. He was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his performance as Mr. Miyagi.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And then he reprised the role in three subsequent films and Machio returned for two. Isn't it great? I mean, he's great in this, but I'm like, this kind of movie would be nominated for an Oscar? So the 80s was like that.
Starting point is 01:00:15 So like Marissa Tomei and my cousin Vinny I think won best supporting for it. And now you'd be like, well, that wouldn't be an Oscar movie, but her performance is great. No, but it's great. I want more, I want more things like that at the Oscars. I'm like, give me, too.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Yeah. Yeah, there's like, I remember, I think the reason I have such a weird thing with award shows was I was a kid and I saw planes, trains, and automobiles. And I told my dad, I was like, oh, so John Candy's going to win an Oscar for that, right? Because I was, like, crying at the end of it here. And then I went and I watched the Oscars like, oh, he's not even nominated. And my dad, I remember being like, well, it was a comedy. Oh, it's so fucked up.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Michael Douglas for Wall Street won. and I was like, who fucking cares about? Comedic acting. Comedic acting is important. We do not get enough representation at the Oscars. But John Candy and Plains Trains and Automobiles is like an unbelievable performance, in my opinion. Yes. I never see. So, you should.
Starting point is 01:01:11 It's so good. He's so good in it. I just saw something about that they cut. I think I was watching the Steve Martin documentary. And he was talking about that movie. And he has like all of the scripts for all the movies he's done. like bound on his bookshelf. It's pretty cool. And then he was talking about how there was a really long monologue
Starting point is 01:01:30 that John Candy is supposed to do that they actually cut down. But it was like so moving that he said it was, he was talking about it. He was like how it made him cry so much when John Candy did that and when they were acting in real life. And then in the movie it's like cut down to a really small moment, but it's still really moving.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Is it that I like me speech? I think it's where he's sitting on the bed and Steve's like looking at him. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, I like me. Yeah. I know. Okay, here's a little trivia for you.
Starting point is 01:02:01 The yellow classic automobile that Daniel polishes in the famous wax on wax off training scene, which he gets as a gift, was actually given to Ralph Machio by the producer and he still owns it. It's a 1948 Ford Super Deluxe. That's so cool. I love that. That's sweet. That's nice. Bill, are you unmoved? That's generous.
Starting point is 01:02:22 That is generous. I just like how generous. I was waiting for the word generous. It is generous. It's really thoughtful. It's very thoughtful and generous to give that to him. It's very thoughtful and generous. That is so nice.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Ralph, you go over and thank that producer. You go to send him and we are going to write him a letter. We are going to write him a thank you card and send him a gift. You find out what his wife likes. Here's some more trivia. Extras were so caught up in the tournament scene that they would boo William Zapka
Starting point is 01:02:58 even when the cameras were not rolling. Zapka's mom was in the crowd and kept trying to tell people that he was very nice in real life. That's so funny. I thought you were about to say that she was also booing her son. She was like, boo, he is abusive.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Fuck you. That's hilarious. Okay, we need to take another quick timeout. We'll be back with more correct kid. Ready break. We're back. Okay, the newcomer's draft.
Starting point is 01:03:35 It's time to recast this movie with present-day actors. Who do we want to be in this movie now? Who's... I always put stranger things kids. Well, they did it with the Jaden Smith and Jackie Chan. Yes. Oh. This movie's been done so many times.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It's almost like there is no room to do it again. They probably will do it again. Jackie Chan is Mr. Miyagi's pretty awesome. Yeah. I never saw that movie, but he's awesome. I mean, he's amazing. Yeah, he's great. I love that.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Maybe I'll watch that too. But yeah, I get it like Finn Wolfheart early. Yeah, we'd totally be here. Yeah, I'd be Finn. Yeah. And being like, oh. And then who's, yeah, who do we need those Elizabeth's shoes part? It's Finn Maltiger stranger.
Starting point is 01:04:30 It's Millie Bobby Brown. Yeah, put him in. Put him in. Or it's Timothy Shalomey. Timothy Chalachalemay. Okay, now it's time for the kiss cam. Name the best smooch from the movie or a smooch that you wish you saw. We had a good kiss in this.
Starting point is 01:04:51 with two of them. There was the super aggressive kiss and there was a super nice kiss. So we got best to both worlds. Yeah. Yeah. So now it's time for the scoreboard. Time for reviews.
Starting point is 01:05:05 So once again, this season we're reading reviews from Letterboxed and we're giving the film a one-sentence review ourselves and a star rating. And if you don't know what the fuck Letterboxed is, it's a social platform where people can write reviews of the films and you can follow our show on Letterbox at Newcomers.
Starting point is 01:05:19 This is a review from Jesse. but four stars or wait is that four yep that's four just goes to show with the right teacher it only takes two months of training to win a karate tournament yeah that's true that's funny um who would like to go first also ania and alley will be giving their one-sentence reviews as well would anyone like to go first i'll go first um i i want to give this movie five stars this movie rocked my fucking socks off i would love it so much I'm going to say, best 80s movie I completely missed for some reason. I want to learn karate now.
Starting point is 01:05:58 And I also want to learn how to trim a bonsai tree from this. I thought it was, I would give it five stars. Yeah. Also solely because I just, there's so many childhood memories of watching this. It was a very indelible theater experience. I don't know if you guys had those. We just remember exactly. where you, what the theater was, where you saw it,
Starting point is 01:06:23 how you felt after it was one of those movies for me. And I think it's a very generous movie, you know? I do, actually. It is generous. It is a generous movie. Wait, what's your star rating? Oh, wait, you said five stars. You said five stars.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Yeah, I am also going to give it five stars. I love this movie from the fucking beginning to the end. The romance was there. The bullies were there. Ralph Machio is a dream boy for me. I really like him, specifically in my cousin Vinnie, but also in this. I can't believe I haven't seen this movie. What a nice treat. I'll probably watch it again. Me too. I want to watch the second one now that I know. Me too. Well, I'm going to watch the first one into the second one and have a nice time. Yeah. You can have a whole Lord of the Rings style oh lord of the rings it's one long thing movie oh yeah you guys watched lord of the rings we watched all of lord of the rings and and we even listened to a radio play of lord of the ring it was
Starting point is 01:07:32 hellish dove deep and we wanted to do anything else um i watched uh i will say real quick i watched fellowship with my kids and i was like oh i remember loving these movies when they came out and i think it was just because we my friends and i would go to like midnight screenings and they was dorky and people were cheering and stuff and I watched it with my kids and then my one of my daughters goes we watched Fellowship of the Ring and she goes this is kind of the same scene over and over again thank you she's right she's right she's right that's hilarious I don't remember this yeah it is amazing like the audience experience could really you know paint the view of a movie Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Allie and Anya, you want to give your reviews really quick? All right. Daniel, I'm going to give it five stars. Daniel Laruso has it all. Charisma, uniqueness, nerve, talent. He's serving charisma. Serving cunt. I am serving.
Starting point is 01:08:35 That's the Antenio. He left no grums. I am serving. Talent. nerve, Italian. I'm serving Italy. I'm serving. Yeah, I still live with my mom.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah, sure, I still live with my mom in an apartment, but I'm, I'm my shit together. I will also give it five stars. It's my first time watching it. Actually, I somehow missed it. They used to make movies that were good. It's just like they did it all the time and they don't make them like that anymore. And also short.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Yeah. Each scene of this movie you need. You can't take a scene out of it and it won't work. So each scene moves the thing forward. And so many things I watch now, I'm like, you could lose all this. You could lose all this. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:09:37 If it's like no one's watching it or like agents are being like, leave them alone, let them do whatever they want. but it's just like every movie I watch now you know you go to see it and you know you go see it one of these theaters where the people come out before and they're like all right so you're about to watch so it is three hours and 45 minutes and you're like why?
Starting point is 01:09:57 You're like oh no I live here now? Yeah I'm like oh yeah I live here now oh great I guess we're all roommates but yeah that was what's fun about watching a lot of those movies is that it used to be like a craft that you have to like each scene has to move the story forward if not it has to go and it does it does you know and it works it builds to that ending so well and then it's out
Starting point is 01:10:25 yeah it's so everything is so earned right it's an emotional experience and we really we really don't need and of course I'm sure they do it in the second movie but we don't need to see him be like I won and then the girl's like no we don't really need to like live in that I'll say this the opening of the second movie starts with a fight. What? A fight! But he wins! And we were told there would be no more.
Starting point is 01:10:53 We got to see what happens now. I got to. I got to see it. Okay. Well, it's time to wrap up, but, Bill, do you have anything you want to plug? No. You're fine. I just saw a great play.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Yeah, you're doing great. You don't have to plug anything. We know what you're doing. Go see O'Mary. If you're in New York, go see O'Many. Oh, my God. I want to see what's so funny. It is so funny.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I took my kids to it. And we were dying laughing. My nine-year-old daughter had a lot of questions afterwards. I have to see that. That is so funny. Dad, can we just clarify some things? This is Colescolla's Broadway show for people who might not know. where Cole plays Mary Todd Lincoln
Starting point is 01:11:43 and it's unhinged in the best way possible. It's one of the funniest things I've seen in a very, very long time. Amazing. I've not laughed that hard in a really long time. Same. So go see it. I got to see that.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Okay, well, if you're listening to this, please write a review for newcomers on Apple Podcasts and rate us on Spotify, five stairs only. We'll be back next week with Bend It Like Beckham. What? Never seen that. Never seen that. Oh, wait, is David Beckham in it?
Starting point is 01:12:11 That's a fucked up movie. Is David Beckham in that? He's in it, but it's a really fucked up movie. Is it? Like Macom. Yeah, it is. What? Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Yeah. I've had no idea. I can't wait to see this fucked up. I can't wait to see this fucked up movie. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I was like, what harrowing movie are we going to watch about David Beckham? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:33 You guys should watch it in the morning. Like, don't watch it. Can't go to sleep after watching Bend it like Beckham. Make sure you see friends afterwards, like get out of the house. All right. Well, Bill, thank you so much for being here. This was so fun. Yes, thank you.
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