Next Level Pros - #134: Hawaii House from “The Bachelorette” Filled with 9 Figure Companies

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! Today, we’re recording from the stunning Waterfall House in Hawaii, and we’re joined by Tyler McAllister. We discuss the importance of mental toughness..., personal development, and creating meaningful connections. Tyler shares his insights on mentorship, entrepreneurial lessons, and the role of nature in fostering reflection and growth. This is a deep dive into resilience, discipline, and finding balance in life and business. Apply to be on the show: https://forms.gle/hwDijQPFyKCEtHNs8  Highlights: "Nobody knows what I’m capable of except me and God." "Take one mile at a time, and you'll go farther than you think." "Success is about more than numbers—it’s about making life meaningful." "We underestimate our capacity because of the mental limitations we place on ourselves." Timestamps: 00:00 - Exploring mental toughness and introducing Tyler McAllister 02:21 - Finding clarity and focus in nature 05:16 - Shifting priorities and lessons from reading 07:13 - Tyler’s experiences and the impact of great leaders. 10:00 - Overcoming arrogance and seeking help to grow 20:01 - Building strong relationships through love and connection 25:09 - How fitness, spirituality, and business intersect 28:44 - Lessons from unexpected physical challenges 35:01 - How physical activity cultivates resilience 41:15 - Turning type 1 diabetes into a source of discipline Looking to scale your business? Want to learn directly from the same team that helped me sell my last business for 9 figures? Click this link below to check out how you can work with us. https://nextlevelhomepros.com/grow-home-service-vsl  Join my community - Founder Acceleration ⁠https://www.founderacceleration.com  ⁠ Apply for our next Mastermind: h⁠ttps://www.thefoundermastermind.com ⁠  Golf with Chris: h⁠ttps://www.golfwithchris.com ⁠  Watch my latest Podcast Apple- ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-founder-podcast/id1687030281S ⁠ Spotify- ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2 ⁠ YouTube - @thefounderspodcast

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Starting point is 00:00:00 People are mentally weak. Oh yeah. Like there's just a lot of weakness bred in our society and maybe it's because of the luxuries we have but like we need mental toughness. Physically you can do so much more than you think you can. Right. Nobody knows what I'm capable of. Nobody's seen me in secret. Right. That's where I have to like win is the secret battles and just be like okay what is Chris capable of? What am I up against? Now, I know I'm capable of more. And I think that's where all of us have to get to is like understand, like what does God know that I'm capable of doing?
Starting point is 00:00:34 Letting go of control is realizing like, hey, God has a plan. Right. And all that you can do is be the best version of yourself, accept that whatever you can do and whatever you're blessed to receive is, and accept whatever that path looks like versus trying to, you know, shape that path herself. Yo, so we are coming from the waterfall house here in Hilo. We got Mr. Tyler McAllister here.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Welcome, welcome, welcome. Thank you. Dude, excited. So we're gonna be spending the next three days here at a mastermind. A lot of you guys have heard us talk about our focus on masterminds and like getting together, solving problems, both personal, professional, everything like that. And the cool thing is like this spot,
Starting point is 00:01:26 I can say is my favorite spot in the world for it. So I wanna hear Tyler, you just got here, it's the first time seeing it. Tell us what your initial reaction seeing this place was. So if I could make up that perfect vacation home in Hawaii with land, waterfall, river, house, like this is it in real life right here. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty amazing. I'm not even sure I could even imagine it up, right? Oh yeah. No, it's incredible. When you say a king lived here and you walk on the property, you're like this is fit for a king the location itself is
Starting point is 00:02:06 Insane. Yeah, and I wish the cameras could do it justice Yeah, you got to see it with your own eyes like when I when I share it on social media or the pictures I'm just like that's that's not it. Yeah I'm like it looks cool. But like it's it's different. I think there's more to it, too it's like what you see but it's also what you feel this place has got a feeling to it that I I Love like when I walk in here. I'm like, wow the magic's here like you feel it there was a guy who helps manage the property brought an elder from the island here and He said when he came up on the property started weeping
Starting point is 00:02:44 What? Yeah, I know the story. Yeah, and I said you just felt like this was a very like sacred area. So good space Yeah, and so it's cool when you're here. You feel good. It feels I call it the tree house because you're like up high You got the river down below and you got these trees massive trees all around you that are Kind of encompassing. Yeah, the nature is incredible here. The plants, we had some rain today. The grass is beautiful. Local tropical fruit and all of this.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah, just the whole house and body is the experience. You know, I think it's interesting because a lot of people listening to this or watching this, they're involved in business of some sort, right? They're either got an idea, they're trying to build a business, start a business, whatever else. And a lot of times, right, like we focus on just the numbers. For me, my career, like when I take time away from the business and I go to places
Starting point is 00:03:45 like this, for example, and really like focus from a 30,000 foot view on my life, on my business, on my everything else, it's like there's something magical about like removing yourself from being in nature, like kind of like reflecting on like all the goodness that you have and being able to go and focus like for me that's really helped in my professional career just like having these reset type moments and that's like when I saw this place when the guy was like hey yo this is about to hit the market and he sent the pictures both me and Darrell like call each other up like dude you see that there's no way that's real there's no way that's real. There's no way that's real.
Starting point is 00:04:26 But we felt drawn to this for more ways than one. It wasn't just a good investment or beautiful property. It was some almost spiritual place to, like I said, kind of detach, focus in, revert back. I think too, when you're having success, when you're trying to have success, when you're doing things, you gotta trying to have success when you're doing things like you got to Have more than just like numbers, right? Yeah. It's like I want to make a million dollars this year
Starting point is 00:04:51 It's like why right and it's like how do you make your life fun? How do you make it exciting? How do you make this life like meaningful? And it's things like this as places like this where you get to experience And it's things like this as places like this where you get to experience Something that kind of just takes you somewhere special and I think that's what this place represents for me It's like having fun being in nature It's a special place So I'm interested to know from like both of you guys like what your guys's personal development journey has been both business personal like like what has been important
Starting point is 00:05:26 to you that is no longer important to you, like how you've learned, grow, develop, right? Like what, go ahead. I love the story. Like in second grade, I was always going out to this like group of like eight of us. And I remember going out there and I was like Why are we coming out of the classroom and get it like oh you guys don't know how to read so we're teaching how to read and that stuck with me and I remember graduating college still my mind thinking I don't know how to read and I can remember after graduating from college
Starting point is 00:06:00 Chris was like hey, dude, let's read this book. Okay, cool. What is it? It was rich dad, Poor Dad. And I remember thinking, man, I don't read very well. So I'm gonna try to read this book, finish it before Chris can, remember that. So I read this book and I got done with it. I'm like, dude, I love that. That was so cool.
Starting point is 00:06:17 So then it was like, let's read another book. And we kept reading books. And then all of a sudden it got into just reading books. So do you think that was like your first, like where like, hey, I'm working on myself outside of what the school system told me to do? Yeah. I honestly don't think I really understood.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I didn't understand entrepreneurship. I didn't understand a lot of things, but I was super ambitious. And I felt like when I started reading books, it was elevating me to think differently than I had ever thought before. I had been taught just work really, really hard and like just work hard, like just work hard. Don't read. Don't read.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It wasn't don't read, it was just work hard. And there wasn't really this idea that to be creative. Right. What about you Tyler? What's like your journey been? You just like developing, obviously you run in a very successful business now. You're building a real cool thing down in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:07:09 What has been your path to get there? Mentorship is really big for me. I feel like I learn really well through others. I'm very curious. I ask a lot of questions. And I've always been really drawn to people around me that are further down the road and have gotten to where I want to get to and I
Starting point is 00:07:29 Love earning time with these people to kind of mine what the journey is like like if I can forecast and kind of See a little bit of what that looks like and help me navigate through that a little bit more I feel like it it gives me some of the wisdom of not having to go through so many struggles on my own and Kind of helped me adapt the mindset of what it takes to get there. So that's been really helpful and I have a 30 minute to commute to and from work every day
Starting point is 00:07:58 And so I've learned I really enjoy audible whenever I'm driving I can I can pound through a whole bunch of books and so it's been your favorite one recently Prophet first profit first. Yeah, nice. Who's the who's the author of that? I don't remember Jared. You remember Michael something his last name is tough So I really like that one and then Patrick but David's your next five moves that was a great solid Like that one and then Patrick but David's your next five moves. That was a great one solid I haven't read that one PBD is obviously stud right like he's got he's got a lot of really good things He was very political in this last election, which was fancy But you know, that's cool. That's cool. You know, it's interesting. You said like you like to learn from mentors
Starting point is 00:08:41 Were you always that way? I would say I would say yes because you know my path in the door-to-door industry I felt like was successful because I really latched on to leaders and not a pay scale and not a company yeah I latched on to the leaders that I felt like hey this is someone who's creating a life and a future that I would like to have and I want to follow. And so I just highly valued the people that I was allowing to influence me. And that was my focus more so than, you know, an individual pay structure or the company title. And that got me really far in life because I learned what good
Starting point is 00:09:23 leadership looked like. I learned what culture was like and the things that I wanted to create in my own life. I was getting first-hand education and so That mentorship became an anchor in my life and I was very different than my father. My dad was a very brilliant guy mechanical mechanical engineer Very practical a type personality and I was very creative. And so, you know, my dad hammered through school. He kept all of his college books. He would still read them. Like he was just always thought I always thought I'd do that.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And I kept I think I still have them. But like, I don't think I've cracked them. Yeah, I can remember buying every every college book I bought. I'm like, I'm gonna read this one. Oh, I spent $300 on this. So and I forgot to sell it back. So yeah. So my dad's good for him. Yeah. I mean, and my dad's advice was like stay in school and get a job, but my path led me to entrepreneurship. And so I had to really latch onto people that understood that world and I had to learn it through you know, just first hand good good for you because you know, it took it took me falling flat on my face to like
Starting point is 00:10:36 Start asking for help right like when I was in my 20s I loved to act like I knew what was going on right like and I was pretty intelligent like yeah I had I was I did pretty good for not knowing anything right like a or and I definitely th and then just go to try to like, like think through it on my own and then go and do it and like that that ultimately like I wish I would have made the shift sooner right but again the the failure that I experienced because I was such an arrogant prick like is probably the best thing that could ever happen to me where it's like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I experienced because I was such an arrogant prick, is probably the best thing that could ever happen to me, where it humbled me and put me in a position where like,
Starting point is 00:11:32 man, I need some help. I need to go and learn from others. Kind of like Darryl talked about, the beginning of our path was like, all right, let's read. Let's read from these mentors that we don't personally know so they don't have to see us asking for help. Right? And so we kind of read books
Starting point is 00:11:53 and then we went to a couple of conferences but then we still tried to figure it out on our own. And we were doing all these dumb little businesses that like we had no idea what we were doing. I think too the whole concept of like having a coach or paying someone or going to a seminar, that seems so- Pokey?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Uncomfortable. Like why would I pay all this money, you know? Yet I would go to school and pay 1500 bucks in books that I never read. Right. Isn't that funny? Yeah. It's way more comfortable if society accepts it, right?
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah. Or encourages it. And I think, yeah, like the way I looked at the self-development world, it was like a little hokey initially. I mean, even if you talk the an average person who doesn't Read any of those books if they have they think if they never read those books and you talk about self-development It's like it's kind of like a woo-woo thing, right? It's like, oh, yes help yourself Like it's just a weird mentality. Yeah self-help, but yeah, that's like it's powerful like
Starting point is 00:13:03 anyone who's helped themselves, if you help yourself, if you figure out how to help yourself, you'll- You know, it's funny that they even call it self-help because it's not, right? You're helping yourself by having others help you. Correct. Right? Because whether it's an author or a mentor
Starting point is 00:13:22 or a coach or something else. So Chris, who's one of your top mentors? I'd say for sure the guy that I learned from the most, from more of a distant, not like a lot of personal interaction, was Todd Peterson. Yeah. And I actually talked about this on a, I was doing like a little training
Starting point is 00:13:45 for a bunch of multi-level marketing people this last week. They brought me on as a guest. And I talked about how like, before I worked for Todd, when I was running my businesses, I hated Todd. Right, like everything about him, felt like he was an arrogant prick, thought like, you know, just whatever
Starting point is 00:14:05 but then I realized the reason I hated him is because He did it right and I didn't yeah, you know and and so then I shifted my mindset When I ultimately, you know, I I talk about like there was a four and a half year period where I worked for three different businesses That I call my paid education and like I was very intentional from learning from these guys. And Todd just taught me so much by the way that the way he built his empire, right? Like building it with transparency and culture and like just so much like even the way like he structured his pay scales. And it was just like very transparent even the way like he structured his pay scales And it was just like very transparent across the board of like this is what we pay if you want to get to the next level
Starting point is 00:14:50 These are the X Y & Z. There's no secrets. There's no nothing It was cool to see I thought like the the respect of those around him for Todd where it was immense and the way he treated everybody Like he treated everybody, like he treated everyone like you were the only person he was talking to. Like he's, I even had him one time I was talking with him, it was just me and my daughter and just he like gave us his full attention. He had someone come to him, he told him to hold on and just like finish talking to us and it was one of like the first times I've just met him and my daughter and it was just like the amount of respect he gives people, that's why he gets so much
Starting point is 00:15:28 respect back. Yeah. Yeah. So Todd, you know, I didn't, the way I look at with mentors, you got to pay them in one way or another. You either pay by working for them or you pay by getting in the room with them, right? With time, energy or money. And so Todd, I paid for by working for him, right?
Starting point is 00:15:50 And kind of studying him from abroad, which, you know, I knew having owned a home security business beforehand, exactly what the margins were, what he was making on my production and everything else. But like, that was was such an incredible opportunity or the cost of learning from him. It was just working with him in his corner. So that was a cool, pivotal part of my career. And Todd has continued to be just a cool person to learn from and study from afar.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And I've had, you know, handful of conversations with him since I've not worked with him. And like you said, I think that was like at an investor conference, right? When you had that conversation with you and his daughter. But yeah, how about you? One person I love is Jeff Scholes.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And Chris, you know him, but he was a guy that I I was like So when I left when I left home for college, my dad he was like told me something He's like I want you to leave and you're not welcome to come back like to live back home They come visit but just like can't come back home to live So when I left for college, I decided going on a mission. I had some time I had to figure out what to do with I was trying to figure out who do I know it's rich and My sister from my sister. I heard things about this guy Jeff. I'm like trying to figure out a work for him
Starting point is 00:17:12 but he was like go to work for him and at the time like money was like the most scarce thing in the world like and So to be around someone who in my perception had a lot of money He treated he always treated people better than he... Money was the secondary thing. And it was good for me to see that because I hadn't been around someone who had money. And he set an example for me that I think has impacted me the rest of my life of never put money over people. Well, I remember one of the lessons that you shared from like just that time with like
Starting point is 00:17:48 one, never allow a meal not to be on just one card, right? Whenever you go to eat, one person always pays and it should almost always be you, right? Like that's, I know that you learned that lesson from Jeff and like he would take you guys to eat all the time. all the time and do the right. And, and just, uh, it was cool because we had a chance to go to lunch with him just the other day and right by him lunch, which, which was cool. Cause I know earlier in our careers he was, he pulled his wallet out too, you know? Yeah. But, uh, but no, Jeff,
Starting point is 00:18:22 Jeff was a Jeff Jeff's a special human in my book because he's actually, besides you, the only person that believed in me, like after my bankruptcy, which was really cool to see. Like he saw how hungry we were and everything else and was willing to put money on the line for somebody that literally had just filed bankruptcy, which was crazy. And so he helped, uh, he helped us, uh, build our,
Starting point is 00:18:48 our second alarm company from, cause we didn't, we didn't want to sell contracts anymore. We wanted to in-house accounts. And so he put a fund together for us that we could draw on to essentially keep those, those accounts in house. And now that was just a really powerful lesson for me, like believing people right like not Yeah, I mean to be honest with Jeff. He gave me so many different loans like I needed one for a car I didn't have like credit so he gave me money for that like he would just And he didn't like he didn't have any obligation to as well
Starting point is 00:19:20 But he was a guy that was always there to help and like like, right. You guys weren't even like really family. Like he was like this extended in-law of something else. Right. Like, yeah. Yeah. He, he's definitely a cool, like early stage mentor of so let me ask you, let me ask this guy. So like what, so I know like, like business, we learn a lot about business. We have to write. Things are always changing in business and stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:42 What about your other aspects of life? Like your health relationships Spirituality like what what are like some mentors or what how are you developing there? Like what are the things you use or tools? Tyler is there anything in those categories that you're working on or Well, I'm really blessed. I had an awesome father who was really good at showing love and spending time in and Showing how to really create connection as a father and so that was really instilled in me I knew I had a dad that always would come home be excited to see me Give me a big hug and was always there to support me and anything I was doing and so
Starting point is 00:20:20 You know, I feel like that's that's an attribute I've been able to carry on from my dad when I come home I'm good at being with my kids and You know, I care a lot about that connection and that time that we have together because I know how quick they're gonna grow up and so you know, that's been a huge influence on me in my life and the impact of having a good father in the home and you know, my parents having a good relationship and just feeling like family and home is the best place you could ever want to be. And I want to make sure I perpetuate that with my kids.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And so when you talk about money and having fun and all that, like to me, that's not getting on the golf course or, you know, running away. It's creating opportunities to connect with my kids and my family where I can really Invest my time and experiences into them. So for me, I'd say that's been my number one influence there and then obviously You know spiritually Making sure that Christ is center of my life. I feel like the the blessings that I've been given in my life I I don't feel like are the merit of my own works, I feel like I've I need to always stay humble and grateful and and and recognize the blessings that God's given me because
Starting point is 00:21:37 I have an abundance of What the Lord has given me and I don't want to take that for granted. So Making sure I'm a man centered. Amen. That's awesome. Hallelujah. What about you Chris? Dude, you know it's it's interesting you say to like okay this business whatever so I've never really idolized somebody in business unless they line up with all the other aspects that I that I want. I know like there's been a few, I guess you'd call mentors or people that I'm like, okay, I want to learn this one thing from them, but I don't want to emulate them. Right? Like, I'll give you an example. Grant, I love you. But like there, there's only a few aspects about Grant Cardone in the past. He's starting to line up some things now, right? He's starting to get his family and different things like that in order, which I respect. But like, you know, there's like just like this action that he's doing, but I don't necessarily want to put him in my mentor bucket. Right? So like for me, when I'm, when I'm looking at people that I want to impact me in business, like really it's like, okay, do they check all the boxes? Physically, economically, associations and their spirituality, right? Like are they aligned with their own values?
Starting point is 00:22:38 Like, are they aligned with their own values? Like, are they aligned with their's like, okay, do they check all the boxes? Physically, economically, associations and their spirituality, right? Like, are they aligned? And so like, when I look at like a guy like Todd, right? Like I've appreciated one, the guy's kept the same wife and has kids and respectable kids. And he talks really highly about her.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Right, talks highly about his kids, keeps his family and everything. Spiritually, yeah, like he's, you know, I'm sure he's not perfect, but he creates a lot of the same alignment that I want, which I'm like, okay, I respect that. Physically, guy works out, takes care of his body, everything like that.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And so like for me, like that's the mentor I've always tried to be as well. Right. Like if I can, if I want to emulate this guy, I want to be the person that people can emulate. Like I'm not perfect in any of those categories, right. But like for me, that's, that's the thing I'm always, I'm always looking for. I think it's impossible to like fully separate them out. Um, from, from a standpoint, like I think if somebody gets it physically
Starting point is 00:23:48 and understands the science of discipline and how a body works and everything else, naturally, nine times out of ten they're gonna apply it in these other areas of their life. And if they're not, there's probably something going on here that they're cheating their way to the top. So if you don't cheat, chances are those principles are falling over into other areas. Now, I understand there's other aspects to it, right? Like you can't always have,
Starting point is 00:24:15 relationships aren't one sided. For me, that's what I'm looking for. And a lot of it like is a level of education. Like my dad, he may have not been the best financially, but he was his best financially. My dad grew up in a white, his dad was an alcoholic, nobody in his family had ever stayed married,
Starting point is 00:24:42 didn't have the gospel of Jesus Christ. And my dad took that, went to school, got a good job, did everything society told him. He was extremely disciplined, invested half of his paycheck into his retirement, right? Like did all the things. So even though my dad isn't like a perfect like entrepreneur financially, he got, like he's a great example of those things things which also showed up in his physical life his relationships everything like that you know i think like i think if someone's struggling i think if someone's struggling um like in their business or maybe in their relationship or maybe
Starting point is 00:25:20 in their health they should look at something else that they're also avoiding and start working on that. In other words, let's say I'm struggling financially, I should look at my health and figure out how to optimize my health. If I'm struggling in my relationship, I should figure out how to like figure out another aspect of my life that I could improve that's not so maybe heavy or overcomplicated and fix that first. I think a lot of times people get so stuck on the one thing when like you said, these principles overlap amongst themselves. And so I think if you can take the
Starting point is 00:25:58 pressure off of this is way too complicated to fix my relationship with my marriage, it's too complicated. I don't know what to do. Get yourself in a really good spot health wise get yourself in a really good spot spiritually and i think as you start to develop those those principles or alignment i think it will help your relationship you know uh one of my one of my first coaches that i paid for uh sat tell me now the right I I paid him was a pretty big check to to be in his corner and for me like sit at a checked
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Starting point is 00:27:12 I think a lot of times it is our fitness. Like I think fitness can teach you a lot. And I think a lot of that originates by like why God put us on the earth, right? Like we're here for a physical experience. And if we understand how the body works, and I'm like I said, no physical specimen. I wish I was in better shape.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I was, but like every time I like dial in, do something like very disciplined physically, 99 times out of a hundred, I have a better relationship with my wife, I perform better in business, I just all the things, I'm more disciplined in my prayers. It's like one of the easiest ways to create a ripple effect is just start chalking up wins on the physical side and like I said
Starting point is 00:28:05 nine times out of ten is gonna transfer over. So I'm kind of experiencing a transformation physically. I feel like the last few years I've learned a lot of stuff from you know meditation, Tony Robbins, a lot of these different things. I mean you're showing it off today. I'm in Hawaii. No sun's out but anyways I remember the beginning of the year I'm thinking I've been I feel like I've gone through this transformation internally I need to like make it external and so I've been like lifting weights really focused on my diet eating a lot better And that's been good. What's really interesting is We're in Boston. I went and did that half marathon. That was wild. And do you guys know about this?
Starting point is 00:28:47 Oh my gosh. Yeah. So I don't run. I haven't ran at all. And I heard these guys were doing a marathon. And I'm sitting in class, been sitting there all week. I'm thinking, could I do a half marathon? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Like 13 miles seems like pretty dang far. So I get a text across the room, hey, dude, we should run a half marathon tomorrow. And I was like, no. And anytime I have a dumb idea, I tried to rope Chris in, but he didn't. That's like one of the first times I was like, not this time.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Usually I'm down for a dumb idea or something crazy. But it was interesting. I ran it and my goal is to not stop running and I did. And wow. it was a... Dude, like Darryl, at least give it like some buildup here. She is. I mean, guy had had it run more than a mile in the last five years at one point in time.
Starting point is 00:29:36 One point in time. Oh, further, like 10 years. Right. Like literally no training. He had lifted weights, done no cardio, anything like and you ran what was your what was your minute average? It was 1010 like runs a 10 minute average across 13 miles Like dude, I'm not sure I could even run a 10 minute one mile But it was interesting because you didn't stop running never stop dude, that's that's the hardest part
Starting point is 00:30:04 That was my whole goal. I was like, I will not stop running It's one thing to finish but then to have that stamina to keep going so I had a friend running with me and While we were running around mile two or three says Darrell if this isn't your pace if you're running slower than your pace You're gonna hate it Like you make sure you're going your pace, but then don't go faster than your pace because it'll also burn you out so around mile five he was like it was our pace was a little like just a little faster than he wanted to go because he runs a lot and
Starting point is 00:30:36 And so he started to like kind of back off. Who is this? Fabio, okay, and so then I love you. Yeah, so I decided you know what? I'm gonna stick to my pace I feel like it's good. And so around mile five we separated So the first mile was like forever. I was like, when's this first mile gonna end and then I'm like, right mile two mile three and then they started to kind of click off and like just take one mile at a time and then Was wild was the people on the sideline cheering? Yeah, I was like I would I would say probably not the nicest things about them from an outside perspective,
Starting point is 00:31:10 but now having ran a race, I finished because of those people. It was just them cheering and stuff that gave me energy to keep going. It was being in that whole group of people that gave me the energy. So it was a completely different experience than I had anticipated.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And what So what did that teach you like just the the whole physical experience of going and doing something that's like, just doesn't seem like conceivable, frankly. What was it like first to finish? Like only here where that was like, so mile 10 is when I started like, holy crap, this is I can't three more miles. That's like That was when it got hard. Yeah, 30% more. Yeah, yeah 30% I'm just saying all these things in my head and I'm like
Starting point is 00:31:54 It was just it started to get like pretty challenging at that point and I just started talking to myself and saying all kinds of Stuff and having these conversations of like you can do it stop thinking about it Focus on a little girl on the side of the road, focus on the people up there. You got a drink coming up and like, you know, I just, I was just trying to like, get myself focused back on, on where I needed to be. Uh, but when I finished, man, I was like, well, no, actually the finish line, I couldn't see where it was, but I could hear it cause it kind of like did some
Starting point is 00:32:22 turns and it wasn't our normal route. And so I was like, dude, I don't know how much longer I can keep going Like I was just like it was really weird. I had like I had I was ready to check out as soon as that finish Line came up. Yeah, but then I yeah finish across the line finish and It was it was a relief. It was a high Wow That's incredible. It was good. But what I, what I got from that, I realized that we have so much more capacity than we're giving ourselves credit for. Yeah. Like, was it really that hard? No.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Like I did it right. And I'm not the, I wouldn't sound like the mentally, the toughest mentally person I know. Like, but you're also not 400 pounds, but correct. But dude, when I was on mile 9 I'm pretty sure an 80 year old passed me woman and when I was on mile 10 this dude that was probably twice as much weight twice as much as me passed me. I'm like, oh dang You know, I like focus on your race. Don't focus on them. But Do we have so much in us? Yeah, you know, we talked about being tired. We talked about being frustrated we talked about being angry like I
Starting point is 00:33:31 Do believe those are all choices Those are all like patterns that we've just programmed into ourselves and I think there's so much work again. I think There's very little they can teach you that besides physical activity I think there's very little that can teach you that besides physical activity. Right. Like you, you don't necessarily learn that when you're like the closest to that would maybe be knocking doors, right? Like one more door or whatever else, but like very few other things in your life. Do you get to that mental exertion where it's like, dude,
Starting point is 00:34:03 I'm not sure I can keep going. I'm not sure like what I'm capable of or whatnot, right? Like we live in such a plush society, right? Like air conditioning everywhere. I mean, we live better than Kings did 200 years ago. I love, I don't know what you got to saying, but you've said this for years. It's not what I'm mentally capable of doing, but what I'm physically capable of doing. And I say that to myself in the gym all the time. Yep. When I'm mentally capable of doing, but what I'm physically capable of doing. And I say that to myself in the gym all the time. When I'm struggling, like, can I do one more?
Starting point is 00:34:30 I'm like, physically, yes. Mentally, I'm deciding. So I do it. I do one more. And then I do one more after that. Because it's physically, you can do so much more than you think you can. Yeah, I mean, it's remarkable that like,
Starting point is 00:34:45 like in situations where adrenaline kicks in, right? Like you can lift a car, you can do one more rep, you can run 13 miles with no training, right? Like, yeah, the physical limitations are always mentally put on ourselves. But let's just talk about the reality. The reality is people are mentally weak. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Like there's just a lot of weakness bred in our society. And maybe it's because of the luxuries we have, but like, dude, I mean, yeah, there's some, there's some like, we need mental toughness. I think one of the best ways to get my teeth kicked in is like listen to some David Goggins You know a little can't hurt me like dude, I remember the first time I Listened to the audible can't hurt me. I
Starting point is 00:35:36 Literally like got on my phone and ordered marathon running shoes. Yeah, I remember I'm running a marathon I got the text message. Hey, Chris. Hey Darryl. We're running. We're running a marathon. I got the text message. Hey, hey Darryl. We're running we're running a marathon But yeah, okay but that was that was old Darryl where I would like try to get him excited about something and and he would never do it like so like it's It's cool to see a new Darryl in the last year year and a half where he's like He's up more to like some of the physical challenges that I wanted because I've always done stupid physical challenges Like oh, it's like like oh, I'm gonna go do 60 day juice fast or I'm always like I'm always been active Always been skinny, but I wouldn't say I've been like optimal health wise right and I think that's where I'm like alright
Starting point is 00:36:08 I'm getting older now, and I want to be optimal for as long as I can I think I think that's where I'm like I'm getting older now. I'm getting older. I'm getting older. I'm getting older I'm getting older. I'm getting older. I'm getting older. I'm getting older. I'm getting older. I'm getting older I'm getting older. I'm that's where I'm like, all right, I'm getting older now and I want to be optimal for as long as I can. Well, I think the thing that shifted in you as well is like mentally, like you've been physically active just to be physically active.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I think you're actually connecting it with like the mentality now. Yeah. Where like you want to do hard things and like kind of prove to yourself like that's always been me. Right. Like the in and I like for whatever reason I haven't ever been able to get you on board with that. Right. You're always like, oh, that's stupid. Why would I do that just to do it. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:54 So that's that's been a fun transition in our relationship of like, all right, let's push the limits. Let's let's figure out what we're capable of doing. So it's awesome. Todd, what about you? What were you at physically? Like what are some of the challenges you have Let's push the limits. Let's let's figure out what we're capable of doing. So it's awesome Todd about you. What were you at physically? Like what are some of the challenges you have or what are some of the things you want to change or shift around? Yeah, so I want to get my Eating dialed in to where I know what I'm putting in my body and I understand what my macros and my protein and the calories I never count that and I think it would go a long way If I'm focusing a lot more not like grabbing quick energy food out of the kitchen
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah, and just shoving it down the gullet and so what are your what are your worst foods you eat? Probably carbs at night like if I just reach for a bagel and cream cheese at nighttime, I'm like about to go to sleep That doesn't sit well, you know But I mean that's that's quick easy fix if you don't want to do dinner at night You're just gonna throw down or you know, it's guys like you that just really pissed me off I can like eat a bagel and creams like dude I Freaking like went a year without white flour fried foods and sugar and I still got this dang thing man, like
Starting point is 00:38:09 I'll give one one credit to you Chris like you have what it's type two type one type one diabetes I was gonna make stuff to do not call it type one diabetes self-inflicted fat people. Sorry you have type one diabetes and You never bring that up as like an issue, but I see you always like having to imp like your I had to get you something some sugar this morning because your blood sugar was out of whack. Yeah. How do you how do you deal with that?
Starting point is 00:38:37 Because that would be an easy excuse to say, well, I don't operate like everyone else. You know, I and I think that's like the thing I always have to look at is like, okay, Chris versus Chris, right? Yeah. Because if I allow myself to get outside of that, then I look at a guy like Tyler who's eating cream cheese and bagels and like, oh yeah, I'm struggling with like, screw you, dude. You're looking good, man.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Like if I ate cream cheese and bag bagels I would be 400 pounds you know and but I have to like remove that thought and just be like okay what is Chris capable of what am I up against now I know I'm capable of more right and and so and I think that's where all of us have to get to is like that, that understand like what, what does God know that I'm capable of doing? And cause like me and him are the only ones that know not my wife, not Darryl, not any of my friends, right? Nobody knows what I'm capable of. Nobody's seen me in secret. Right. And so like that's, that's where I have to like win is the secret battles. Yeah. And so like, you know, I made a really awesome decision. I don't know what triggered
Starting point is 00:39:54 in my little 10 year old brain, but I was sitting in the hospital when I first got diagnosed with diabetes and this nurse, I still remember her name. Her name was Kathy. My nurse Kathy. Sweet Kathy. She was so nice. I made her a nice card and everything. Anyways, Kathy. How long ago was this? When I was 10 years old. 30 years ago. So Kathy wheels in this TV and pops in a little VHS and on there there's this NFL player talking about
Starting point is 00:40:31 how he has type one diabetes and like he hasn't let that like get in his way. And like, you know, that spoke to me as a little 10 year old Chris, cause like one, I love football, right? Two, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was All these different things and so like I'll check out that sweet lizard That thing is dough. It's like come on. Tell looks right here. You're on the corner saying green Awesome, yeah so
Starting point is 00:41:17 So yeah, they show me this video and I made a decision right then.'m like, I will not allow myself ever to make diabetes my excuse. Right, if he can do it, I can do it. And what I programmed in my mind was I will never say that I am a diabetic. Like I will never identify as a diabetic. I have type one diabetes, but I am not a diabetic. Like I will never identify as a diabetic. I have typed one diabetes, but I am not a diabetic. And so like that just, that just little mental shift is, is helped me.
Starting point is 00:41:53 But like I know I could use it as an excuse because frankly, if I'm being honest, like it's difficult, it's, it sucks. Like when I, when I'm like dialed in with my diet and then I like have to go and drink pure orange juice, right? Like in the middle of the night, I'm like, crap dude, I was in keto. Even like even like fasting, you can't fast. Yeah. Like I've, so I have attempted three day fast, three different times, two of the times my blood sugar got too low to be able to finish the fast.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Um, third time I was able to do it, right? Like, like things in, again, I even hate talking about this because I, I don't want it to ever appear to limit limit me. But if I'm, if I'm being frankly honest, there's like things that I have to deal with that normal human beings don't have to. Sometimes I yearn to be like, Darrell just completed a five-day water fast. I'm just like, man, I really wish that all I had to do was make a decision because it's not just making a decision. I have to decide, and then I have to freaking monitor this and make all kinds of crazy adjustments and like limited my exercise at different times and like and
Starting point is 00:43:06 Like just be well aware like when to make sure my insulin isn't over producing and just all the all these things and so But again, I think I think the coolest thing about type 1 diabetes is really it's been a superpower because it's taught me Discipline that I I don't think I could have ever learned just from normal life. And so, so yeah, like everybody's in their own battle. Everybody is. And so I always try not to overly like I'm fairly judgmental from a physical standpoint. Like I'll look at a 400 pound person and be like, dude, get more discipline. Like that's what I think. Uh, but at the same time, I gotta, I always remind myself, like, look, everybody's in their own personal battle. If they're constantly bettering themselves, like that's all that matters, right? Like no matter, as long as the trajectory is in the right way, then, and when they slide back a little bit, rebound and get back up.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Well, it's interesting because you always say like physical first. And I think that's because that's where you've had to be. Right? I don't disagree with that. I think, I think you're correct for a lot of people getting your physical health dialed in can impact the rest of your life in a big way. I mean, dude, it's the only way we experience life, right? Like, like I can't feel the spirit
Starting point is 00:44:24 if I am just like, shoving myself full of donuts and weigh 400 pounds. Yeah, but you're talking about like, people are like maybe overweight, but still you can be like skinny or you can, you know what I mean? So I think- But even then,
Starting point is 00:44:39 I guess what I would say to that, like contrary or a different perspective would be like, I think if you don't have your values lined up, it's like you could be the fittest person in the world but completely unhappy because of the actions you take. So it's obviously a balance of all those things. And I can see it from every different direction.
Starting point is 00:45:03 First case of type one diabetes was just cured with stem cell therapy for the first time. Did you hear that? Is that true? What'd you say? You know, I saw the article. Yeah, stem cells cured type one diabetes. Like here's the way I'm at.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I wanna believe it. But like, I would say the one downfall of our capitalistic society is health. Right?, but like sugar strips, insulin pumps, like all the stuff it takes to take care of diabetes or cancer or anything else. Dude, those are a lot of people that are gonna lose their livelihood if you find a cure. And so it's the, like I said, the unfortunate byproduct. And although, like I wanna believe that this has happened,
Starting point is 00:46:01 I hope it does, will it ever be made available to me? Or how? I don't know, right? Probably outside of the U.S. Maybe Robert Kennedy will figure it out. R.F.K Jr. Let's go, Kieran. It is one of those. But I will say my biggest pet peeve, don't ever call me a type two diabetic. I always forget. I know I'm going to big fan of the, so good stuff
Starting point is 00:46:48 well do the what's next was next for you what are you working on and what domain and you just all the domains what he would be working on , just get to the next level I think that getting a getting to a certain height and
Starting point is 00:47:06 Then getting you know getting to the point where you have to break through a glass ceiling I think that's kind of where I'm at what motivates you Progression Realizing that to get to the next level I have to become more but also Yeah, what motivates me is opportunity I want I want more opportunity I feel like I feel that restriction of that glass ceiling which is just a byproduct of me and and to get to the next level I need to become more and and learn how to develop myself to the next stage show Yeah more freedom
Starting point is 00:47:46 Daryl what's what's next for you? What's next for me? What are you working on right now? Man so working on I think there's a lot of stuff that's that's just coming that's happening. I Think it's just stepping into the businesses that are happening stepping into it's just stepping into the businesses that are happening, stepping into the, the, my kids are getting older. So stepping into like the different activities and stuff going on there. Dude, that's, that's a crazy topic in and of itself. Like both of us have seniors. You have a 14 year old, like yikes.
Starting point is 00:48:19 There's that there's closer to being a grandpa than I am to being a newborn father. Like that's wild. Yeah 17 18 here in like three weeks Wow. Yeah, she graduates next month. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah wild Yeah, and my youngest is six. So like yeah Within the next six years we could yeah, definitely Grandpa Lee here crazy I think there's there's kind of two sayings that I always like to live by and it's it's one is like how can they get better? than this Realizing like dude life is really good
Starting point is 00:48:54 There's so many blessings there, but it can even get better And just being excited for like what that could look like and then this saying in ten years You're gonna look back at your time right now and be like, oh that was the glory day That was the golden age or you feel like 10 years from now I think it'll always get better Like I do think there is that that meant you'll always look back and realize holy cow That was way better than I thought it was Yeah, I think we do that initially because we're not tied in these negative emotions that really don't serve us
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah, and frankly if it doesn't get better than this, like why? Why even try? Right. Like, I think it will always like life is about progression, creation value, right? Like I should give you an example of one of those. So there's this place called Narnia, and it's a local place here, where it's got all these different waterfalls. And we were there before we had this property property and I remember it's a saying in our family our girls always say it whenever we're in like a really cool place experience or doing something awesome it's how can it get better than this someone will say it yeah and I remember one of my girls saying it there at the waterfall place I'm like I think I said uh your property today but it walked out I remember saying I was like how could it get better than this but like but I
Starting point is 00:50:03 but I think the the terminology isn't like, wow, this is the best it can be. It's like, how do I make sure that I don't limit myself to only this? Right? Like being able to, because I think one of the biggest self-destructive characteristics that any of us have
Starting point is 00:50:22 is we self-destruct. Yeah. Like we hit a ceiling and we're like, I'm not worthy of that. characteristics that any of us have is we self-destruct. Like we hit a ceiling and we're like, I'm not worthy of that. Or I only should have that. And so then we never get through that versus like, okay, I've gotten here and I'm loving this. I'm really enjoying this.
Starting point is 00:50:40 This is a freaking phenomenon. I mean, look at this, there's a waterfall. Like, how can it? Like, what can I do to make it even better than this? Yeah. And I remember saying that and then coming here and be like, ah, I remember that time. That's how.
Starting point is 00:50:56 And now I'm here, I'm like, how can it get better than this? And I've had experiences with people here and that's how it's gotten better. And so like, I just know like life will continue to unfold as long as I'm excited and expecting things to be even better. And then the last the last piece or saying that I like to live by is just trusting the unknown. And I learned that through meditation conference, but trust the unknown, trust in the unknown. And so basically what that looks like is like, instead of trying to understand how everything's going to play out,
Starting point is 00:51:32 trust that the unknown, what you don't know how it's going to play out, like the future, is going to be way better than you could imagine. So instead of trying to imagine the future, realize it's going to be even better than that. It's because we create so much anxiety, like trying to predict the future, right? Yeah. Like, oh, like, this should be happening or what's, how's this the future, right? Like, oh, like this should be happening or how's this going to impact me, right? And, you know, obviously we've had a lot of professional experiences in which this happened, right?
Starting point is 00:51:54 Like early on with our business, getting a million dollar fine from the state, right? Like, how do you, like, if we just ponder on this and dwell on this, it's like, dude, we're done. It eats you up. It's over. We're screwed instead of like, hey, trust in the unknown. Somehow it's going to work out. I'm just going to keep putting a step,
Starting point is 00:52:13 one step in front of the other. And eventually, as long as, as long as I'm living in the present, right? Living in the present and doing my very best, the unknown will take care of itself. I'll give you an example, because I think this is so important. I remember being in Cabo,
Starting point is 00:52:29 and I had a phone call with a couple employees, high level management, and there was some massive tension. And I remember before I got on the phone call, because I was kind of stressing out about it, I caught myself, I said, you know what? Like trust in the unknown. Like this is just a process that everyone involved has to go through, and at the end of it, I caught myself, I said, you know what, like trust in the unknown. Like this is just a process that everyone involved
Starting point is 00:52:47 has to go through. And at the end of it, everyone will end up in a situation way better than we currently are. And so I just walked in with that attitude and I was like, good. There was nothing that could shake me in that conversation. No matter how mad or whatever, but I was in a situ, I was in an emotional state where I can handle anything.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah. Dude, I think that second, the first one's awesome, right? Like how can it get better than this? I think that's just fun to dream that way. But the second one I think is like one of the most powerful things that you can tell yourself in any situation, relationships, business, spiritually, right?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Like I just gotta like breathe, trust in the unknown. Even like my wife, right? Like I just gotta like breathe, trust in the unknown. Even like my wife, right? Like I always want my relationship to improve and get better. And you know, one thing about relationships are two people are involved and they're always changing. And so like the relationship has to change, right? And as we get older, it's like we want our relationship
Starting point is 00:53:41 to be even better and better. And sometimes there's struggles and sometimes it gets really, really good. And so we're always trying to like level up. But even with that, it's like, uh, I just trust like it's going to be awesome. And so I walk into my relationship knowing that I'm going to experience even better days in our relationship. And I just know it's going to come at some point.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I don't put a timeline on it. I don't put expectation of how it's going to look. I just walk in knowing it's going to continue to get better Do you feel like trust is in opposition of control? Because I feel like part of that means we have to let go of control Yep, and realize that in some ways we really don't have control of an outcome, but it's we can influence it we can impact it but yeah, like and and control the response. You're never gonna be able to control the event. Events happen and it's this same mentality, right? Like events happen like employees are outraged, somebody's quitting, a million dollar fine, whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:55:14 This is an event, literally no control over it, right? Like you may have been able to impact it before, but it's already happened. Here it is, nothing's changing it. And so it's okay, this is the event. How am am I gonna respond if I want this outcome and so the thing he always talks about is like okay understand what the outcome you want and and say if I wanted this outcome how, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause that when that event happens like I just like react to it and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause
Starting point is 00:56:07 and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause and then I'm like, I'm not willing to press pause that when that event happens like I just like react to respond in a way that's like what what are you talking about
Starting point is 00:56:26 like I thought things were good what are you know that's like versus like a bit clearly I've done some wrong I like I if you are feeling this way like that's blindsided me a little bit here I'm committed to in you know I'm committed to in you know clearly I've done something wrong. Right, like if you are feeling this way, like that's blindsided me a little bit here.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I'm committed to being your number one. I want this, like what, how can we work on this, right? Like that's a completely different response and it's same in business, right? Like I wanna go and I wanna sell my business for a hundred million dollars. I get a million dollar fine and we have 10 grand in the bank account. Right. How am I going to respond to this particular situation if that's the outcome that I desire. Right. Versus you know and so it's just just constantly like keeping your eternal I guess you'd say, or future perspective of outcome.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Not necessarily controlling it, but more just controlling the response and hoping for a better future. It's like, think of the person who already received the $10 million, whatever. Now take him and put him in that situation, how would he respond? I think that's the best way to look at it. I look at it in relationships. My wife thinks I'm the coolest person in the world, how would he respond? I think that's the best way to look at it, right? I look at it like in relationships, like my wife thinks I'm the coolest person in the world, 10 out of 10, everything's like perfect. How do I respond to her, right? And then if I always treat her like that,
Starting point is 00:57:56 that's how she shows up. And so I think it's important that we show up like we want the opportunities or the people to show up. Yeah. One of the really fascinating and interesting books I listened to this year was called Imagine the God of Heaven. And it's a lot of people that have had near death experiences
Starting point is 00:58:13 that had out of body experiences, saw their life in review. And one of the interesting ones was this lady who talked about, she saw her life and all the choices that she made were like ripples in a pond that had all these effects. And she saw that her life and all the choices that she made were like ripples in a pond It had all these effects and she saw that her life had a path There was something for her to learn and all the decisions she made in her life were like these Rose compasses that kind of led but they all ended up leading to the same spot
Starting point is 00:58:38 But it didn't really matter how she got there and she just realized that That she no matter what she did there was something in her life that she needed to go through to learn and That there really wasn't any avoiding it right and so she could have done all these different Avenues in her life and choices But they all would have led her through this path where she would have had to learn and grow and there was no avoiding it and I think that's part of and grow and there's just no avoiding it. And I think that's part of letting go of control
Starting point is 00:59:07 is realizing like, hey, God has a plan. And all that you can do is be the best version of yourself and accept that like whatever you can do and whatever you're blessed to receive is, and accept whatever that path looks like versus trying to shape that path ourself. And what I would interpret that as is like, I think where control goes wrong
Starting point is 00:59:32 is when we try to control others rather than control ourselves. Yeah. Right, like I think, because what you're saying is like, I just need to control being my best version and understand that others are gonna be the way they are and things are gonna happen for a reason, right?
Starting point is 00:59:46 And I think where frustration happens in regards to controls like when I like, want you, like I wanna take away your choice or somebody else's and like get this perfect scenario that I have imagined up in my mind. Yeah. Yep. I guess and then one other story in that book
Starting point is 01:00:04 is about this woman who was in this horrific situation You know extreme fear extreme anxiety She's in a terrible situation. How's this near-death experience looks back at her her current circumstance and sees her life in review and her mindset is just like it's all okay because She sees what's next which is this amazing like glory beyond description and She ends up coming obviously back into her body and waking up in that situation and her
Starting point is 01:00:38 Her peace and her calm that she felt in that circumstance, even though nothing had changed She was still back in this exact same horrific She just knew that in the end. It's all okay It's like her perspective changed to an eternal view where it was like, yeah, like what happens right now it doesn't matter because this is what's next and you know, she ended up getting out of the situation all worked out but just that perspective that What really matters is what's next after this life and whatever happens here is? Love it. Not a big deal. I love it. Well everybody
Starting point is 01:01:12 Tyler appreciate you being on being on the show is a lot of fun. Just having a good conversation about everything Yeah, man. Appreciate you guys. Yeah. Yeah, it's a look forward to spending the next few days here in Hawaii together It's gonna be a good time likewise as a reminder If you haven't taken a look into our programs the next level pros we have coach and consulting workshops masterminds all the goodness that we'd love to help you out and No matter where you're at business life, whatever It's all about the trajectory that you want and getting yourself to the next level. Until next time.

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