Next Level Pros - #138: Hunting For Greatness In The Extreme // How Andy Elliott Changed Who He Is / Next Level Pros Podcast
Episode Date: February 26, 2025Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! In this episode, the hosts interview Andy Elliott, a sales training expert who has transformed his life and business over the past few years. Andy shares h...is inspiring story of how he went from being a successful but unfulfilled car salesman to building a thriving sales training company that has impacted over 500,000 people.Highlights:"Greatness is found in the extremes. If you don't become obsessed, no one will ever know your name.""The greatest, scarcest resource in the planet of Earth right now, in the home, in the community and in businesses, is leadership.""If you want to get paid more than you ever imagined getting paid in your life, you got to become a leader.""I just don't want to die with regrets anymore."Timestamps:00:00 - The power of obsession and becoming the greatest02:19 - Andy's background and transformation05:00 - The importance of taking care of yourself and your family10:00 - Embracing the truth and transparency14:02 - Deciding to change and taking action16:25 - Buying the training program that changed his life20:00 - The problem with the world and the need for forgiveness25:00 - The power of belief and leadership34:41 - Becoming a leader and creating value37:37 - Building a team and scaling the businessWant me to teach you how to grow your business? Text me! 509-374-7554Want access to more of my content? Click the link below for all of our latest updates and events!https://linktr.ee/nextlevelprosWant to be a guest on our show? Apply here!https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1YlkVBSluEKMTg4gehyUOHYvBratcxHV5rt3kiWTXNC4/viewform?edit_requested=trueWatch my latest PodcastApple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437aYouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros
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Do you believe that everybody has to go to those same extremes to be able to make those changes?
I believe greatness is found in the extremes.
And so if you don't become obsessed, no one will ever know your name.
If you want to make more money, you got to devalue money.
Stop chasing money. Stop chasing money.
You want to attract it? Become the greatest example on planet Earth.
And what does great value mean?
I always tell people, if you want to make more money, you got to create more value.
How to create more value? Become a leader.
The greatest, scarcest resource in the planet of Earth
right now in the home, in the community, and in businesses is leadership. And so if you want to
get paid more than you ever imagined getting paid in your life, you got to become a leader.
And then you make all the money. And by the way, everybody's looking for leaders
because we're in a leadership nation. Welcome to another episode of Next Level Pros podcast.
Today we have Mr. Andy Elliott.
We're down here in beautiful Arizona in his studio doing some incredible stuff.
So many of you guys know Andy.
You've seen him on Instagram, YouTube, all the different things, maybe on stages.
This guy runs an incredible sales training platform.
They've had over 500,000 people go through their program.
He's changing lives.
The man is a believer, a family man, all the important stuff,
really building an incredible, I call it cult following in a good way.
Down here, it's absolutely incredible.
Welcome to the show.
Excited to have you.
Yeah, thank you guys, man.
It's good to be around winners.
And I say this all the time.
When I was younger, we didn't have access to information to learn from winners.
If you wanted to learn something, you had to go buy,
they would say, take a rich man out to dinner,
try to give him a five course meal and pay for it
and you can sit down and just listen to everything he says.
And now you can sit down and one podcast,
it can totally change your life.
And so I'm positive today, there will be at least one thing
said that will totally transform everything in your life
If you're just aware. I love it. I love it Andy what I'm most interested to know is like
Three four years ago. Nobody had heard of you right right like you were not on the map my understanding you lived in Oklahoma
Which it's funny. I spent two years of my life in Oklahoma
So when I was 19 to 21 years old I was a missionary there for my church and so
Know that know the lay of the land kind of all over the board
And so I know you decided to make a big shift
Tell us about I mean obviously you've done a lot of groundwork up until that point
What caused the transformation?
well, so number one I was talking about how like
What caused the transformation?
Well, so number one, I was talking about how like, development, right?
Like the greatest gift that anyone could ever give themselves
is the gift to start working on themself.
And that wasn't really ever talked about.
Like training is like, oh, like,
how do we do the road to the cell?
We're gonna train on the steps.
Does that make sense?
But we were always working on the business.
We were never working on ourself, okay?
And so mentally, like, I'm telling you, like I fought demons my whole life, you know, That make sense? But we were always working on the business. We were never working on ourself. Yep. Okay.
And so mentally, like I'm telling you,
like I fought demons my whole life, you know,
but I thought that money one day
would fix all of those problems.
There's a day that you got to make enough money
that success fixes everything.
And the reason why I thought that way
is because the leaders that were leading me,
that's what they taught me.
Okay.
So from zero to 18, I was dead broke,
never had more than $5 in my hand.
At 18, I got in the automotive space. I went from making 18, 125 grand, 19. You guys were
in door to door sales, so you guys did sell. So you're 19, I made 220 grand at 20 years
old, made my first 500 grand selling cars. That's not normal income for most car salesmen,
but I was really good and obsessed. I say greatness is found in the extremes. I didn't
want to do anything but sell cars. I didn't want to do anything. I didn't want to do anything but sell cars. I didn't want to do anything
I didn't want to do anything. I didn't I want to go party. I didn't want to run around people
I wanted to learn how to talk I stuttered so I want to learn how to be a good speaker
I want to learn how to master strangers
I want to learn how to walk up to anyone and just and just make a best friend
I wanted to make people feel really comfortable
I was learning to talk with familiarity with people so, let's say that I didn't know you,
I could talk to you for just 30 seconds
and you would feel like you know me your whole life.
Like that's a superpower.
By the way, anyone could just,
if we just stop now and you just learn that, it's over.
Like your, like sales and leadership will get you rich.
So, hey guys, it's Chris.
Hey, a lot of you leave comments asking for help.
Do me a real quick favor.
Shoot me a text at 509-374-7554.
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whatever you need. Don't worry, I got you back. Let's go back to the show, baby.
The transformation though was I worked my whole life and I thought money was gonna
make me really happy.
And so the change, where did Andy come from?
November 2019.
Dude, that was just the other day.
Five years ago.
Right, so like if anybody's watching this,
yeah, you're like, well, you know, man, I'm too old.
Dude, I'm 39, okay?
A couple good years of really spending time
working on yourself can totally change your whole life.
So like, I don't care who you are,
like everybody's qualified for really good life, okay?
Because, but you don't know it because you don't,
because you have to make new decisions.
You have to decide to become a new person.
And by the way, you have to recreate every day,
which means you have to work on you.
From 18 to 39, I worked on my job harder than I believe.
Everybody who says I'm the hardest worker in the room,
like you say it, you say it, I say it.
Well, hard workers know that like,
no one's gonna outwork me.
That was my deal.
And by the way, I was trained at 18,
sacrifice for what you want
or what you want becomes a sacrifice, okay?
All the people that were my leaders,
I looked back, they were all divorced.
Their kids didn't know them.
They were all fat and out of shape.
They were all smokers.
They all went out and drank.
And by the way, you're not really aware of these things because I'm looking at their pay stubs.
I'm looking at how much money they're making. And by the way, I'm thinking, dude, if I could just make as much as they are, like all my problems.
So it will go away. So at 39, my wife's got a purse full of cash. I mean, I mean, like we're good, right?
Like we can live.
What's the definition of purse full of cash?
It means that like, okay.
What kind of money were you sitting on
when you made this decision?
So, in Oklahoma, the average home is a nice home.
You can buy it for 125, 150 grand.
Especially that.
We have a million dollar house in Oklahoma.
Nice, beautiful house.
It's paid off.
We could buy what we wanted.
I probably had a half a million in the bank.
For Oklahoma, that's a pretty good job
on being in Oklahoma. We had our cars paid off. I mean, we could get what we wanted
yet. Okay. I'm out of shape. Okay. I've lost my edge. Am I working my ass off? Yeah. When
I'm home, I'm not home. What does that mean? I'm not present. I'm thinking about work tomorrow.
Sunday is I got to recover for Monday
So even if I was in a picture, I don't remember it. I was I was I just gave everyone leftovers I was very selfish. I never helped anyone change their life be crystal clear
There's a difference between helping people make a lot of money and helping someone change their life
I helped a lot of people make a lot of money. I never helped anyone change their life
I never had until I was 30. I never had until I was 30,
I never had someone come up to me and say,
you changed my life.
They say, I'm making more money than ever
and that's changed my life,
but only from an economical standpoint.
I wasn't an example to anybody.
An example to be the hardest worker in the room,
how to be great at sales, how to influence, persuade,
paint pictures, tell stories, sell ideas, sell situations.
I was good at that stuff.
In my little dealership, that territory, right?
That dealership, I was an animal.
Outside of that, I was an introvert.
I didn't wanna talk to anybody.
I was too tired.
I was burnt out.
I was exhausted.
And I thought this money that, you know,
from being broke was gonna make me happy.
So I'm doing better and everyone else that thought I was gonna
do. And at this point you're married you have three kids. Yeah married three kids
and and my wife like she so she pulls this trick by the way just so everybody
will understand this is where a lot of people hate my wife yeah but they they
don't like to look in the mirror and own their shit. Yeah. Okay I always say all
change starts with truth and honesty. Yep. Okay so my wife is one of these people
that's like look you want me to feed your ice
cream like a two, three, four and five year old make you feel good?
Is that what you want?
You want to feel good?
You want me to give you the little walk on eggshells, sugar coated conversation where
I can't tell you the truth because I'm going to upset you and offend you because you can't
handle it?
Or do you want the cold hard truth and do you want me to treat you like the bad ass
you say you are?
Has she always been this way?
Yeah, she's a hot blooded Mexican, man.
But by the way, I will tell you something.
Leading up to this, I almost went to jail.
I almost got in trouble.
I almost had all kinds of problems happen.
Do you know why?
Because my wife used to be direct with me
and one day I told her, I'm like, babe, stop nagging me.
Which it happens because again,
where do they train you how to be a great husband?
Where do they train you how to learn to take criticism?
No one trained you.
And by the way, all the people that I was working around,
if I was to tell them, hey, my wife keeps swearing me out to do this and that, you know what they'd
say? Dude, you don't have to put up with that shit, man. You have to put, dude, running with the wrong
freaking people. And so I get this, I get this ungrounded feeling where like I'm the shit,
right? And by the way, I'm going to tell gonna tell you this like everybody no matter where you are I was in Oklahoma this was I was doing better
than the most of the people that were around me and and this is where you felt
good about yourself yeah like I was like I'm independent I'm badass I've lost
everything God gave me all this I'm taking credit for it right and and really
I ain't even done nothing that's how how stupid I am because I'm just ignorant.
But Jackie one day, I go through trouble
and I realized my wife has always wanted to protect me.
She's always been there for me.
Everything that she said, like,
hey, don't hire that guy.
Hey, Andy, don't work for that guy.
I was making decisions based off money
and Jackie was saying you make decisions
based off your standards or what you stand for.
Yep.
And I'm like, yeah, babe, but you know,
like if we could just, you know, two years,
we could be in this new place and this new spot.
And you know, she's like, Andy, but that's not right.
And I'm like, it's a gray area, babe.
Why?
Because sometimes it's hard to take information
from the person that's closest to you.
Sometimes it's like you guys don't show 20 years,
you may be telling them something every damn day.
And then one time, I have a conversation
one time, and he's like, oh, dude, that makes sense.
I'm going to change.
You're like, bro, I've been telling you for 20 damn years.
And that's what my wife did on this day.
So this day, she decides, all right, this night before, she heats up my food three times.
I'm on my way, babe.
I'll see you in 30 minutes.
She heats up the food.
How's it ready?
I don't show up.
An hour later, are you coming or not? Yes, I'm on my way right now. I'm getting in the car. Heats up food, has it ready. I don't show up. Hour later, are you coming or not?
Yes, I'm on my way right now.
I'm getting in the car.
Heats up my food, I don't show up.
There's always that one more deal.
Always that one more deal.
You know what I mean?
By the way, so you gotta be careful
who you're trying to please here.
I took better care of my customers than I did my family.
Now listen, a lot of people can't say that.
You know why?
Because they don't own their shit.
The truth of it is, honestly, if my wife told me something
bothered her, I probably would ignore it,
maybe try to fix it.
But if someone at work was having a real problem,
I would step in like the hero.
Totally screwed up, man.
Again, leaderless.
We're in a leaderless nation.
I was leaderless.
And I just needed an awakening, right? And so
Long story short Jackie come home one night that heating up heating up heating up. She's like fine. All right tonight
I'm gonna lay it out
We're gonna we're gonna decide some ultimatums
And I don't she didn't say like i'm gonna leave but I felt
Like she was sick and tired of being sick and tired
She had enough and she was drawing a very hard line for me. And she said, well, number one, she triggered me two ways very quickly.
One she said, number one, me and the kids have learned to live without you, period.
So just so you're aware, okay, I could have got money on my own.
My wife's very independent.
She's like, I didn't need you to make money.
So if you think you going and making money and being gone all the time, coming home fucking
exhausted and not taking care of the me like are you kidding me?
No ways I didn't marry you for that. Okay, you lied to me
That is not the man. I married and so like in my head
I'm thinking my mom left when I was two five brothers and sisters Jerry Springer shit show grew up poor
I've done all this look who I've become and she's like dude. Don't sell me that victim shit
Okay, I see who you can become you're not becoming it and I'm not okay with it
This is where you realize you number one
You're either a winner or loser a winner realizes
Oh my god, I got someone in my life that believes in me and they want to see me go to a new level
This is my chance, right? That's how I that's the road. I decided to take
Okay, I thought long and hard about it for a minute.
Or I could have been like, screw her.
Who is she to talk to me like that?
I'm doing better than everyone else I know.
I've beaten all odds.
I broke the bloodline.
Are you kidding me?
I've broke generational cur- I could have done all that.
You know what?
By the way, so this is where the second part triggering she comes from.
As I'm getting mad and ego, clearly your wife knows how to piss you off.
Are you married?
Your wife knows how to piss you off, bro.
She can build you up to be a bad ass man or she can cut your legs off in two seconds.
She knows you better than anyone else in the world.
And so my wife reaches over and grabs my love handle, bro.
No, I'm not even joking.
And she kind of like grabs it
and then kind of like pulls on it.
And she's like, you're getting comfortable.
And I didn't like that.
And it felt like spiders were crawling up my back
when she grabbed my love handle
because I could feel how out of shape I was.
And I felt disgust.
And I almost wanted to take it out on her.
And by the way, this is anybody
that really wants to change their life right now.
This is the people say, you got called out bro.
No, I got called up.
She gave me a chance to level up as a man at that point and become who I promised her
I was going to become the day that I met her.
And I lied to her forever.
And so you either own it, you become great.
I wouldn't be, look, I 50 X my income when I grew up, when I changed my life.
I was able to do what I never thought I could ever do.
Bigger than any dream I've ever done when I decided to start raising my damn standards,
get my shit together and become a different person, alter my identity, change my intentions.
My intentions from like, I want to go make money to like, now I want to help people become
a good person to be an example
Right. I never thought about any of that my mind never thought that way
But I go in the garage work out for four hours, dude. I freaking shave my head a hair at this time
I shaved my head. I just need to see a different person. I walked back in
I remember my wife sitting there and she's like look
You feel better? I
Was like yes, and she said that's because that's who you are.
You're made to take care of yourself.
You haven't been taking care of yourself.
If you don't take care of yourself, you can't take care of me.
You can't take care of the kids.
If you don't love you Andy, you can't love us.
That's the way it goes.
You work so hard for these people that aren't going to be here for you.
If something happens and you get sick, none of those people that you're working hard for are going to be here.
I will always be here.
The kids will always be here. Who are you trying to please?" She's like, there is a chance. Right now,
you can change everything. Just make some decisions. And so I realized at that point,
my wife was my greatest coach and I just wasn't listening for 15 years. Now, I immediately,
this is where the pivot happened. I go online, I never went on the internet, and I literally typed in motivation, because
I needed to be motivated, right?
That's like milk, like I needed something to tell me what to do next.
And I never went on the internet.
I was never on social media.
I didn't even own a social media account.
So I go on YouTube, I type in motivation, and Tony Robbins pulls up.
I'm like, I'll watch this guy for like two minutes
and see how I feel.
Long story short, two hours later,
I'm sitting there and I'm like feeling different,
I'm thinking different, I'm ready to take over the world,
I believe I can do these different things.
And dude, he says what I'm feeling.
He goes, if you're feeling different,
if you're thinking different now,
if you believe now, right, and that you can do things that you didn't think you could do before you started watching this,
maybe it's because you can. And the only person that's been hurting you is you, and you're in the way of you.
And I was like, I'm like, is this guy freaking talking to me? And he was talking to me, because that's what we do.
We talk to people on the other side of the camera like people are right now. And then there was this little button.
He goes, if you want to change your life, this is the KBB, the broker blueprint course
with Dean Graciosi, Tony Robbins, and Russell Brunson on how to teach your specialized skill.
I don't care what you do for a living.
I know you're good at something.
What are you good at?
And I'm like, I'm good at sales.
And I'm thinking, I'm like talking to the TV, and I'm like, I'm good at sales.
And he's like, you can take that specialized skill.
And people that are good at whatever you just said you're good at will pay you to learn
how to be good at that.
You can broker your skill for money and you can leave your job you're in now, the one
that you don't want and do what you love and help other people.
When's the last time you helped someone?
I'm like, dude, is this guy talking to me?
And I'm like, I swear on my life, I'm just like, is this guy talking to me?
And then I almost didn't do it.
I did what everybody will do. I started talking myself out of it.
I'm not this guy, that guy's famous.
He's been doing it for 30 years.
I've never been on social media.
Where would I start?
I've never done anything like this.
I'm a car salesman.
I don't know how to do this.
Watch, craziest thing I tell people all the time
is I almost didn't do it.
Dude, I almost didn't do it. Dude, I almost didn't do it.
I came this close to just click turning it off instead of click and buying that training
program.
I bought that training program.
It was three grand.
Changed my life.
Now I've spent millions of dollars on self-development.
It was the greatest thing I ever did.
I just learned this one simple thing. Taking a little bit of time each day to work on me.
Not my business, not even my wife, not even my kids, just on me.
My mind is not my friend.
It's never been my friend.
It's never told me good things.
I have to tell my mind how things are going to go.
I have to be really good to me.
For 39 years, I was really, really bad to me. And I talked bad to me, and my mind was a trash can, which
is why I ruined everything that got in front of me. And my intentions were all about making
money because I thought when I was young, because we were poor, if we just made money,
we would be successful.
And then my wife explained the definition of success is getting it all. We need to be
close to God. You need to be a great father. You need to be your children's hero.
You need to be, I want to have a husband I admire
and I look up to.
That's what I want.
I want not you to motivate the sales team.
I love that.
I want you to go to work and come home and be a winner.
And I want to look in your eyes
and know that you gave it all you got.
That's what I want.
I married a winner.
But also I want you to come home and motivate the family.
How about that?
Amen.
Hey guys, it's Chris.
If you're finding value in what you're hearing,
go ahead and like and subscribe. That way people just like you can find this
content for free here on YouTube. Now let's dive back into the show. And I'm just like,
anyway, so that was when it all changed. And you know, I'm sure you guys can relate with
it. I mean, you bring up a principle that I've always been a fan of is that the mind
is an external thing working on who we really are. I've always been a fan of is that the mind is an external thing, working on who we really are.
I've always believed that who we really are rests in the heart, right?
And that's the reason why you can have these crazy thoughts, positive or negative, on all
different things.
It's not until you actually dwell on them that they actually sink down and either become
who you are, for better or for worse.
But yeah, it's an interesting concept.
And when you kind of separate the mind from everything else,
it allows you to have just so much more self-mastering.
So I've done a lot of the Tony Robbins programs.
I've done the Day of Destiny, the Business Mastery,
Unleash the Power of Thin.
What's interesting, I've also done like
the Joe Dispenza meditation stuff.
Have you heard of that?
Yeah. And it's fascinating because both of them are are focused on the mind on controlling the mind reprogramming the mind and
Very different approaches but the end of the day
It's yeah, dude
And listen I say this all the time because this will set the foundation for everything because there will be people that maybe will watch
This and they're gonna be like dude that guy's a fraud. No, no, watch it.
I love it.
Listen to me.
Here's what's wrong with the world.
Okay?
When someone decides to change their life, we should stand by them and help them change
their life.
Yeah.
We actually talked about this at my church on Sunday.
Yeah, because if you would have met me back then, I'm going to be honest with you.
You wouldn't have liked me.
I didn't like me.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't like me. I didn't know I didn't like me.
Lost people don't know they're lost.
Right.
So like, you know, like people are like,
dude, I learned that in 2015.
I'm like, bro, I hated that guy in 2015.
If you would have met him, I hated him too.
But dude, come meet me now.
Come shake my hand now.
Come talk to me now.
That's all that matters.
And that's the problem is that like,
I tell women all the time,
because like I'm really big on the family values of marriage
and I'm like hunting down these great leader men
that don't know they're great leader men yet.
And I'm telling the women, I'm like, listen to me,
you're a man, you want him to change,
stop reminding him of who he used to be, period.
Okay, listen to me.
If I tell my kid when he screws up, you're a bad kid, but I want you to be a good kid.
It's not going to work.
You've owned him and labeled him as a bad kid.
I tell my wife, you can't get historical with me.
You can't.
I'm a man.
I screw up all the time, but you got to remind me.
Someone has to be reminding me who I am and I'm trying my hardest to do that for me.
But when you see a man trying to change or even a woman trying to change, when someone's
trying to change, their partner needs to say, hey, look, that's not who you are.
What you just did isn't you.
Okay?
Let me tell you who you are.
You're like this, you're like this, you're a leader, you make good decisions.
You know, you have to do that.
And that's why everybody needs a coach. And anyways, I just want to tell you that like anybody who's watching this people are gonna say oh, well, I saw this thing
Yeah, it's all true. It's probably ten times worse everything you found
Yeah, but that's the power and like being a reborn again Christian or whatever faith anybody believes in like changing
Yeah, you know, it's interesting. It's like one thing in theory and one thing in practice,
right?
Theoretically, everybody is like, oh, you know,
I forgive all people.
I allow people to change, but actually allowing
it to take place.
It's one of the most powerful ways of forgiving, right?
Like in the scripture, it talks about of you,
it's required to forgive all men.
That doesn't just mean like, hey wrong me I forgive you it's like I'm not gonna hold you to your
previous standard right I'm actually allowing you to change that is a true
methodology of forgiveness is just like looking past who they are and seeing
who they could become and yeah I think it's extremely powerful and the fact
that you have that in your wife is fantastic.
Yeah, your wife sounds like the one
we need to be talking to.
You guys do.
Incredible for her to pull that out of you.
I was gonna ask you, are you,
so obviously you were motivated to change personally.
Are you at a stage where like,
seeing other people like not being the person
to impact others drives you more than change yourself like yeah, where do you where do you find the most motivation?
so
Well, so you get these dopamine hits right when you do something and then so making money was like a dopamine hit for a long
Time but then the second you cash the check it's gone
And then I hunt it for 30 more days
And then my pay cycle comes and I get that dopamine hit.
And then I'm back on the hunt again.
I'm literally on the hunt now, 25, 7, 365.
Anybody that I run into, if you run into me,
I'm gonna make you strong, I'm gonna make you feel powerful,
I'm gonna make you feel strong,
I'm gonna make you feel like you can take over the world
and do anything, I'm gonna make you wanna be a leader.
I don't care how you've been thinking.
I'm going to brainwash you to actually care about people.
I'm going to brainwash you to think differently.
I'm going to make you believe in a whole different way.
And I do this at the grocery store.
I always say this.
Leaders, it's not an on and off switch.
It's in the community.
It's at home, and it's in the business.
It's everywhere.
If people go, well, yeah, I'm so glad.
Look, when you get off work, the leaders, you're a manager, you're a boss, you're not a leader.
Nobody wants a boss or a manager.
Everybody wants a leader.
Everybody wants a coach.
Really, honestly, a leader and a coach are the same thing,
but I prefer coach, because a coach is someone
that's just coaching somebody,
it's positively peer pressuring them to become better,
to believe differently all the time.
And I believe everyone needs a coach, dude.
I mean, I literally just paid Gary Brek at 50 grand
this morning to take over my fitness.
I'm not even joking, dude.
Anybody that can do something better than me,
I got one life, it's short, I'm not gonna play around.
People say, oh yeah, I can do it on my own.
Okay, cool, take four years.
Take four years.
I want it now, man.
I'm 45 years old, dude.
I'm not playing around.
And by the way, if you're 20 watching this, you take this advice now at 20.
Now you don't wait till you're 45.
Nobody was telling me this at 20.
It's interesting because we had a – so we went to this program at Harvard, OPM, but
we – marketing has changed a lot and we talked about this in a case study where in
the past, there was only – there's few channels for marketers and a lot of stuff
was driven by fear base.
And now that there's opened up with all social media
and all these different platforms,
the people buy into hope.
The heart.
Yeah, and so now it's changed.
You can't do fear based marketing like you used to.
It has to be based off of something that people want,
people hope.
Well even fear based leadership. Dude, you guys are my age. So bottom line is, I mean,
I'm just a couple years older than you guys, but listen, how do they motivate you in your
age? You don't do this, you're fired. Right? Hey, you don't do this, you're out of here.
You want to get back to where you were? You want to go somewhere else? You think someone
else is going to pay you this kind of money? Dude, that was how it was. Dude, now?
Yeah, that was my first car sales bot.
No, but my point is so you guys understand fear leadership, right?
Now watch this.
My wife reminds me every day, nobody works here because they're afraid of you.
People work here because they know how much you love them.
Dude, listen to me.
It is a superpower to use your heart, to play with your heart.
Your heart should always be right here.
And we're in an era where people say, don't get close to your people.
Don't get close to your employees.
Don't get close to your team.
Don't let them know too much.
Dude, I'm totally transparent with every single person in my company.
I share everything with them.
Dude, if somebody's suffering, I will pay for their house.
I will buy their cars.
I will do anything.
I don't care.
And by the way, yes, I get burned.
People say, I don't do that.
I got burned one time.
Yeah, it's part of the deal.
You know what?
I've got 50 loyal people and I've had 10 that burned me and I wouldn't have the 50 loyal.
I wouldn't have the army I had had I not trusted that all 60 of them were going to be it and
10 of them didn't work out fine.
And when someone betrays me, all it does is make me be more grateful for the ones who
didn't betray me.
It's like, dude, you've got to change your freaking lenses.
And so a couple of things you said you got to change your mind.
Your mind should ultimately change your perspective, which changes your lenses, which changes the
way that you see everything.
Because most people, they don't see anything good in people anymore.
Dude, every time I see someone, I'm like, dude, this guy's capable of greatness.
Everyone is.
And that's not no bull crap.
This is my ministry, dude. Listen, I should not be here. Number one, it, this guy's capable of greatness. Everyone is. And that's not no bull crap. This is my ministry, dude.
Listen, I should not be here.
Number one, it's by God's decision.
I should not be.
I'm just obedient, man.
I just listen.
And I keep screwing up.
But when I screw up, I say, hey, I own that.
That's a mistake.
My bad.
I didn't intentionally try to hurt anybody.
I wasn't wanting to hurt anybody.
I was trying to try my best.
You fell your way to winning.
And dude, the more you talk about this, people are going to be like, dude, you know what? OK, cool. I'm going to try my best you fail your way to winning and do the more you talk about this people are gonna be
Like did you know what?
Okay, cool. I'm gonna roll like that and that's how we've been building our
Brand is by and we've been pissing a lot of people who are lazy off people that are haters dude
I used to be a hater. This is ten seconds
I was in a car dealership what you said used to work in and I'm just telling you I want you understand this
I'm a manager. I'm making good money.
And I'm just fat.
I'm sitting at the desk.
I'm not fat-shaming people.
I'm just telling you, when you get in shape, you're going to
love yourself.
Your life's going to go to another level.
And you're going to have an edge.
And you're going to be elite.
Take care of yourself.
It's your temple.
It's your body.
It's your life.
Take care of yourself.
But I saw this guy walk across showroom floor.
And I was a manager.
And I was sitting in the tower, where they work the
deals, the cells tower and
I'm just humming
This guy walks by shredded, bro
And I was like F that guy I think it in my head. I'm like I bet that guy drives a four-tours
I got a freaking fire do bro. I start just I bet that guy doesn't make very much money. I bet that guy
Lives in a shitty ass small. I bet he's in an make very much money. I bet that guy lives in a shitty ass small,
I bet he's in an apartment.
You know what I realized?
That guy, because of the standard he held on himself
and the discipline he had, he made me question me.
Yeah, that's awesome.
And instead of me saying,
hey dude, thanks for holding the standard, bro,
you just made me question me, I'm gonna change,
which is what I do now.
I said F that guy because I was like I didn't want to own my shit and then so the night when my wife crazy thing when she triggered me and grabbed
my love handle that struck me immediately that guy and so crazy how
like photographic times that like you stick with you I was like why am I not
that guy have you ever heard that like people are with you, I was like, why am I not that guy?
Have you ever heard that like people are a reflection
of your inside, so like the things that bug you
about other people are really things
that bug you about yourself?
Yeah, that was it.
And so you saying F that guy, you're saying it to yourself?
Yeah.
You're like, F it, I'm not gonna be that guy.
Yeah, cause he made me question myself, why not me?
And that's the biggest deal is that really,
I think every message you put out is like, why not me? And that's the biggest deal is that really, I think every message you put out is like,
why not you?
Yeah.
Right?
And like, you know, traditional education is school.
And this is like the greatest, a podcast is the greatest education you can get.
Yeah.
You know, you bring up an incredible point.
So I have 39 strategies and theories of running a business.
And one of them is focused around truth and transparency.
Truth and transparency is as you shared where everything changes and where you get full buy-in.
In fact, I think it's the greatest showing of love. When you are truth and transparent with people,
when you can hit them straight, when you share with them why they're there.
It's interesting, you have two customers in a business,
right, you have your employees as customer number one,
and you have your end user as customer number two.
When you are truthful across the board,
you can charge more money, make bigger profits.
Like there's so much power in just being able
to be completely owning the truth,
which means comfortable that you're not perfect, right?
Like not trying to justify where you sit,
where you're at, right?
Like understanding that like, hey, I screwed up,
I'm making changes, right?
And I mean, obviously you've figured out a lot of the science
behind building culture.
It's the same, what you're talking about is the same stuff
that we use to build a business out of my garage in four and a half years to 1,100 employees and just a rock star culture of like die hard people that were bought into the vision, the direction.
And like this applies to any business. It can be in the solar business. It can be in sales training. It can be in anything. Right. You like you could literally be coca-cola And it doesn't matter if you apply these principles
You're gonna be able to build something that's far exceeds what you're currently doing and but the
Information you knew wasn't why people followed you they followed you because you were their example you were their leader
They believed in you. Yeah, I tell people all the time if people don't want to be you. They're not gonna follow you
Yeah, absolutely. I heard people don't care what you believe.
They care how much you believe in what you believe.
Yeah, huge.
That's when people wanna follow you.
That's called a pro.
That's a professional right there.
Yeah, if you can do that, which there's a slight difference.
Yeah.
You know, like two people, well, I'm doing that.
No, you're not.
No, you're not.
It's in selling, right?
Even if you go to sell solar, right?
I'm just gonna use an example. Any industry, but if you're going to sell something, you're not. No, you're not. It's in selling, right? Yeah. Even if you go to sell solar, right? I'm just going to use an example.
Any industry.
But if you're going to sell something,
you know the presentation, if you know the slide deck,
if you know all this stuff, if you know everything,
and you're trying to make someone believe
this information, no, whoever believes,
whoever believes the most that that is the greatest,
that person is the greatest salesman in the history
of the world, not the one that can do the best presentation.
It's the one who believes the most.
So a lot of people try to get people to believe in this, and I'm like, no, dude, I believe.
I believe.
I believe that that's the best.
I don't even need to show you this.
I know it's the best.
And people will buy stuff they don't even need because the person believes so much.
And there's just a slight difference.
And only the pros know
that the belief system in anything and I call it sells but the belief system is
what selling a dream get a bank to do alone they wouldn't have never done for
anyone else but they'll do it for you because they see something in you your
eyes are just on fire it's like magnetic I have to say though us walking in here
we saw your culture right off the bat.
Yep, feel it right away.
We even had to do the Armageddon workout.
Yeah.
Two and 400 reps, my arms are like, what the freak?
They do it every day.
Yeah, good for them.
Good for them.
So we keep the gym in company.
I love it.
So they can go down.
You know how it is, Dillon, doing stuff?
I mean, you know.
Yeah, it's interesting.
We've had to completely reset,
so we sold our business to private equity, right?
Got a big payday, all the things that every entrepreneur
claims and dreams and whatever.
But then it's like, okay, what's next, right?
And so there's aspects of that momentum that we've missed
and we're now reestablishing and whatnot.
But yeah, man, building a culture like that,
I mean, props to you, man.
You're doing it the right way,
and it's fun to see and just see your own personal touch,
but just like the mutual principles
in which we were able to build our business off of
and see that they work across industry's it's a lot of fun. It's a hero-making
machine right is what it is. People say well how do I build a great team? Well
there has to be a leader to build the culture. The leader decides what the
environment's gonna look like, what's tolerated, what's not tolerated. You can't
come in here and be negative. So but how did you how did you learn that because we were?
Part of good cultures, and we're like dude. That's what we want and we did it sounds like you weren't part of no
I was a part of the worst culture in the history of the world
I always tell people you know what a winner is yeah, okay cool. You know what a loser is yeah
Well if you don't want to be a loser you do the opposite of what losers do and then you become a winner
And then if you do the opposite of what the greatest in the world do,
which are the winners, you become a loser.
It's very simple, it's like black and white.
And so I just wanted to tell you that
I basically had poor leadership my whole life.
Remember, November of 2019, right now it's 2024,
so you gotta realize it's almost 2020 I started.
Me and my wife, quickly, we sold our house, okay?
We sold that house in Oklahoma, we sold our furniture,
we sold our cars, we sold everything.
I gotta-
Change your identity.
Yeah, I got a $1,500 car, Jackie got a,
listen, I always say this, man.
If you wanna make more money, you gotta devalue money.
Stop chasing money.
Yep.
Stop chasing money.
Amen.
You wanna attract it, okay?
Become the greatest example on planet Earth.
And what does great value mean?
I always tell people, if you wanna make more money,
you gotta create more value.
How to create more value?
Become a leader.
The greatest, scarcest resource in the planet of Earth
right now, in the home, in the community,
and in businesses is leadership.
And so if you want to get paid more than you ever imagine
getting paid in your life, you got to become a leader.
And then you make all the money.
And by the way, everybody's looking for leaders
because we're in a leadership nation.
I mean, it's just crazy.
So I never had a leader.
And all of this language that I'm learning, or that I'm even saying, I live this shit.
It's one thing to learn it, it's another thing to live it. And then once you live it, now you loan it.
You're like, okay, I'm going to give it to him, and I'm going to give it to him, and I'm going to give it to him, and I'm going to give it to him.
Because you're so afraid, dude, honestly, I'm so afraid that if I don't get my hands on someone, that they're going end up, if I wouldn't have watched that video and then decided to make a decision
to buy that training course, which means prove that I was worth betting on, is basically what the decision was.
Okay, because I almost didn't do it, because I wanted to keep the money more than I wanted to go and sit and watch this training.
But I was so sick of my own shit. I was so sick of it, dude. I just, I was disgusted.
And sometimes I would say this,
you can only help people that are looking for answers.
You help people on the bottom that are on,
they're just, they're struggling, they're on bottom.
They're sick of their crap.
They're tired of being sick and tired.
Those people are looking for answers.
You can help them.
If someone's talking to you and you wanna change their life,
if they're looking for answers, coach them.
In the middle, if they can't be bothered, and they bothered and they don't really care, you can't help those
people.
I don't want to talk to those people.
Look, dude, if I say something to you and it could change your life and you don't care
about it, I don't want to talk to you.
I'm not being negative, but you're not looking for answers.
I'm wasting my time.
It's like trying to train a sales rep that doesn't want to go out and sell and doesn't
want to do anything.
But now people at the top, you're not always just training people at the bottom.
We train billionaires.
These people, man, dude, being a billionaire, you create crazy ass problems in here.
You've ruined your family in most cases.
You've gotten really physically out of shape.
I'm 45.
I know a lot of guys that they're in their 40s, they're not in great.
They're not in their most elite shape.
And to have a lot of money and a bank full of cash and have everything you want, be able
to buy whatever you want, but look in the mirror and not be on your 100% A game, which is your
elite version, it's not okay.
And so everybody has these little pockets and holes, and then there's your next life,
which is what you're going to build now, which is your coaching game, whatever you do.
I think ultimately right now, the people that have sold businesses like you, that have kicked
ass, done everything that you guys have done, ultimately what you guys could do is become the greatest
standard in the history of time, human excellence to the highest level and go teach everything
you've done to literally re-clone yourself as many times as you can.
Yep.
And that's, I mean that's exactly what we're working on.
You know, everybody's failing in one aspect or another, you know, but yeah, yeah, I agree
I agree. I agree. So
You're 45
This all took place when you were 41, right? Like what were so you picked up you move you move over to Arizona
Yeah, we went one year. What were some of the initial changes you made besides relocating? Well, we went to Oklahoma, number one.
We were in Oklahoma my whole life.
We worked by ourselves in that rent house.
We literally went to Arizona.
We started our team in 2022, 2021 roughly.
I didn't have a team, it was just me and Jackie.
And then in the last two and a half years,
or wait, it was 2021 we started building our team
So from 2019 and November to really 2021 of January
That was just me and her making sure that we were
You know, we felt good. We didn't bring it want to bring in one on that we couldn't take care of
Yeah, and then boom we were like we're gonna do this and then we brought on one at a time
And then now we have I think like 86 people on on our team. It's incredible. It's a lot of fun. I mean you're right in the thick of the
incredible stuff right? You're attracting great great talent just from the culture, from the
leadership that you've created and yeah. That's cool man. Life can be whatever you want. Right.
Okay and that's why you need to be around great people so that you can think bigger, so you can
dream bigger and sometimes God just puts you in be around great people so that you can think bigger so you can dream bigger and
Sometimes God just put you in front of somebody just to shake you up just a little bit. Hey guys, it's Chris
Hey a lot of you leave comments asking for help. Do me a real quick favor
Shoot me a text at five zero nine three seven four seven five five four. That's five zero nine three seven four seven five five four
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Let's go back to the show, baby.
So everybody has fears and everybody has like weak points that they draw on to be able to
like what I've seen in high level leadership, high level producers or whatever.
Usually there's something, a chip on the shoulder, some past moment in their life
that they constantly draw on to be able to get more energy.
What are some of those things for you?
Today, I just don't wanna die with your grunts anymore.
At 39, when I would've died, I would've hated me.
So is it you're consistently going back to 39
or are there other moments in your life
that you're going back to and be like...
Everything 39 and back, I hate.
Dude, listen, I hate my old life. I'm very clear. I don't go to Oklahoma and people say, oh this guy's got problems.
Hey, I'm gonna be honest with you, I do got problems. I've never met anybody that don't have problems.
I know what I want, I know what I don't want. And I don't want anything to do with that old dude that used to be alive I hate that guy and so now every decision I make is to make sure that that guy stays buried and that guy stays dead
He ain't I'm not letting him come out
So do you believe that everybody has to go to those same extremes to be able to make those changes?
I believe greatness is found in the extremes. And so if you don't become obsessed
No one will ever know your name. Amen can never become great
Look, dude. I was watching this Andy for Zella real and he was saying
Winners are exhausted the founding fathers of our country. They built this country. They were exhausted people that build big shit. They're exhausted. I
Love it. I was exhausted being a loser
Now I'm exhausted being a winner. I love my life.
I love it.
So what's next?
Choose your heart.
Right, like you built some pretty sweet
and three, four year period time.
Stay consistent.
That's all I wanna do.
Just like you guys talked to Tommy,
I just wanna keep keeping my promise to my team,
the people that have believed with me
and been with me since day one.
And then as big as God will let us get, we'll get.
But there's not, everyone's like, you want to make a billion?
I'm like, dude, honestly, we're so blessed.
Like we have everything we need.
I just want to stay, I want to stay on the path and every day, 1% better.
I just want us all to, and I want us all to get better.
I love it.
And I want to impact more people.
Yeah. I mean, that is literally the ground floor of what our message is.
So we run a group called Next Level Pros and essentially what it means is no matter where
you're at, success isn't defined by a point, it's by a trajectory, right?
And that there's always a next level to who you are, right?
Because I'm friends with 50 billionaires, right?
And there's a lot of those guys
that I would not define as successful, right?
Because their trajectory either is plateaued or it's down,
right, and so it doesn't matter how much money
in the bank account, how much you weigh, whatever else,
if you're not on this path of taking it to the next level.
Recreating.
Yeah, recreating, and so I think, you know,
our messages are extremely aligned with
what you're doing and dude appreciate you jumping on the show. I appreciate you guys man, seriously.
And so what uh so what obviously uh official Andy Elliott on Instagram, what are the best spots to
get a hold of you or to be a part of you got these different coaching programs what not how do how
do people get access to you? Yeah so when when you go to Instagram, official Andy Elliott, I mean, it's pretty simple.
YouTube, we have thousands of videos on YouTube.
Absolutely love it. Appreciate you being on. And as always, for those that are on the Next Level
Pro podcast, you know, to be able to get access to our coaching community, go to go nextlevelpros.com,
we'll be able to take care of you, you'll be able to get access to being a part of those weekly coaching
calls and get great people like Andy involved in your life. Appreciate you.
Until next time.