Next Level Pros - #138: Hunting For Greatness In The Extreme // How Andy Elliott Changed Who He Is / Next Level Pros Podcast

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! In this episode, the hosts interview Andy Elliott, a sales training expert who has transformed his life and business over the past few years. Andy shares h...is inspiring story of how he went from being a successful but unfulfilled car salesman to building a thriving sales training company that has impacted over 500,000 people.Highlights:"Greatness is found in the extremes. If you don't become obsessed, no one will ever know your name.""The greatest, scarcest resource in the planet of Earth right now, in the home, in the community and in businesses, is leadership.""If you want to get paid more than you ever imagined getting paid in your life, you got to become a leader.""I just don't want to die with regrets anymore."Timestamps:00:00 - The power of obsession and becoming the greatest02:19 - Andy's background and transformation05:00 - The importance of taking care of yourself and your family10:00 - Embracing the truth and transparency14:02 - Deciding to change and taking action16:25 - Buying the training program that changed his life20:00 - The problem with the world and the need for forgiveness25:00 - The power of belief and leadership34:41 - Becoming a leader and creating value37:37 - Building a team and scaling the businessWant me to teach you how to grow your business? Text me! 509-374-7554Want access to more of my content? Click the link below for all of our latest updates and events!https://linktr.ee/nextlevelprosWant to be a guest on our show? Apply here!https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1YlkVBSluEKMTg4gehyUOHYvBratcxHV5rt3kiWTXNC4/viewform?edit_requested=trueWatch my latest PodcastApple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437aYouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Do you believe that everybody has to go to those same extremes to be able to make those changes? I believe greatness is found in the extremes. And so if you don't become obsessed, no one will ever know your name. If you want to make more money, you got to devalue money. Stop chasing money. Stop chasing money. You want to attract it? Become the greatest example on planet Earth. And what does great value mean? I always tell people, if you want to make more money, you got to create more value.
Starting point is 00:00:22 How to create more value? Become a leader. The greatest, scarcest resource in the planet of Earth right now in the home, in the community, and in businesses is leadership. And so if you want to get paid more than you ever imagined getting paid in your life, you got to become a leader. And then you make all the money. And by the way, everybody's looking for leaders because we're in a leadership nation. Welcome to another episode of Next Level Pros podcast. Today we have Mr. Andy Elliott. We're down here in beautiful Arizona in his studio doing some incredible stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:55 So many of you guys know Andy. You've seen him on Instagram, YouTube, all the different things, maybe on stages. This guy runs an incredible sales training platform. They've had over 500,000 people go through their program. He's changing lives. The man is a believer, a family man, all the important stuff, really building an incredible, I call it cult following in a good way. Down here, it's absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Welcome to the show. Excited to have you. Yeah, thank you guys, man. It's good to be around winners. And I say this all the time. When I was younger, we didn't have access to information to learn from winners. If you wanted to learn something, you had to go buy, they would say, take a rich man out to dinner,
Starting point is 00:01:32 try to give him a five course meal and pay for it and you can sit down and just listen to everything he says. And now you can sit down and one podcast, it can totally change your life. And so I'm positive today, there will be at least one thing said that will totally transform everything in your life If you're just aware. I love it. I love it Andy what I'm most interested to know is like Three four years ago. Nobody had heard of you right right like you were not on the map my understanding you lived in Oklahoma
Starting point is 00:01:58 Which it's funny. I spent two years of my life in Oklahoma So when I was 19 to 21 years old I was a missionary there for my church and so Know that know the lay of the land kind of all over the board And so I know you decided to make a big shift Tell us about I mean obviously you've done a lot of groundwork up until that point What caused the transformation? well, so number one I was talking about how like What caused the transformation?
Starting point is 00:02:25 Well, so number one, I was talking about how like, development, right? Like the greatest gift that anyone could ever give themselves is the gift to start working on themself. And that wasn't really ever talked about. Like training is like, oh, like, how do we do the road to the cell? We're gonna train on the steps. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:02:40 But we were always working on the business. We were never working on ourself, okay? And so mentally, like, I'm telling you, like I fought demons my whole life, you know, That make sense? But we were always working on the business. We were never working on ourself. Yep. Okay. And so mentally, like I'm telling you, like I fought demons my whole life, you know, but I thought that money one day would fix all of those problems. There's a day that you got to make enough money
Starting point is 00:02:54 that success fixes everything. And the reason why I thought that way is because the leaders that were leading me, that's what they taught me. Okay. So from zero to 18, I was dead broke, never had more than $5 in my hand. At 18, I got in the automotive space. I went from making 18, 125 grand, 19. You guys were
Starting point is 00:03:10 in door to door sales, so you guys did sell. So you're 19, I made 220 grand at 20 years old, made my first 500 grand selling cars. That's not normal income for most car salesmen, but I was really good and obsessed. I say greatness is found in the extremes. I didn't want to do anything but sell cars. I didn't want to do anything. I didn't want to do anything but sell cars. I didn't want to do anything I didn't want to do anything. I didn't I want to go party. I didn't want to run around people I wanted to learn how to talk I stuttered so I want to learn how to be a good speaker I want to learn how to master strangers I want to learn how to walk up to anyone and just and just make a best friend
Starting point is 00:03:39 I wanted to make people feel really comfortable I was learning to talk with familiarity with people so, let's say that I didn't know you, I could talk to you for just 30 seconds and you would feel like you know me your whole life. Like that's a superpower. By the way, anyone could just, if we just stop now and you just learn that, it's over. Like your, like sales and leadership will get you rich.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So, hey guys, it's Chris. Hey, a lot of you leave comments asking for help. Do me a real quick favor. Shoot me a text at 509-374-7554. That's 509-374-7554. Shoot me a text. I'll answer and help you with whatever you need. Don't worry, I got you back. Let's go back to the show, baby. The transformation though was I worked my whole life and I thought money was gonna make me really happy.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And so the change, where did Andy come from? November 2019. Dude, that was just the other day. Five years ago. Right, so like if anybody's watching this, yeah, you're like, well, you know, man, I'm too old. Dude, I'm 39, okay? A couple good years of really spending time
Starting point is 00:04:41 working on yourself can totally change your whole life. So like, I don't care who you are, like everybody's qualified for really good life, okay? Because, but you don't know it because you don't, because you have to make new decisions. You have to decide to become a new person. And by the way, you have to recreate every day, which means you have to work on you.
Starting point is 00:04:58 From 18 to 39, I worked on my job harder than I believe. Everybody who says I'm the hardest worker in the room, like you say it, you say it, I say it. Well, hard workers know that like, no one's gonna outwork me. That was my deal. And by the way, I was trained at 18, sacrifice for what you want
Starting point is 00:05:12 or what you want becomes a sacrifice, okay? All the people that were my leaders, I looked back, they were all divorced. Their kids didn't know them. They were all fat and out of shape. They were all smokers. They all went out and drank. And by the way, you're not really aware of these things because I'm looking at their pay stubs.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I'm looking at how much money they're making. And by the way, I'm thinking, dude, if I could just make as much as they are, like all my problems. So it will go away. So at 39, my wife's got a purse full of cash. I mean, I mean, like we're good, right? Like we can live. What's the definition of purse full of cash? It means that like, okay. What kind of money were you sitting on when you made this decision? So, in Oklahoma, the average home is a nice home.
Starting point is 00:05:52 You can buy it for 125, 150 grand. Especially that. We have a million dollar house in Oklahoma. Nice, beautiful house. It's paid off. We could buy what we wanted. I probably had a half a million in the bank. For Oklahoma, that's a pretty good job
Starting point is 00:06:04 on being in Oklahoma. We had our cars paid off. I mean, we could get what we wanted yet. Okay. I'm out of shape. Okay. I've lost my edge. Am I working my ass off? Yeah. When I'm home, I'm not home. What does that mean? I'm not present. I'm thinking about work tomorrow. Sunday is I got to recover for Monday So even if I was in a picture, I don't remember it. I was I was I just gave everyone leftovers I was very selfish. I never helped anyone change their life be crystal clear There's a difference between helping people make a lot of money and helping someone change their life I helped a lot of people make a lot of money. I never helped anyone change their life I never had until I was 30. I never had until I was 30,
Starting point is 00:06:45 I never had someone come up to me and say, you changed my life. They say, I'm making more money than ever and that's changed my life, but only from an economical standpoint. I wasn't an example to anybody. An example to be the hardest worker in the room, how to be great at sales, how to influence, persuade,
Starting point is 00:06:59 paint pictures, tell stories, sell ideas, sell situations. I was good at that stuff. In my little dealership, that territory, right? That dealership, I was an animal. Outside of that, I was an introvert. I didn't wanna talk to anybody. I was too tired. I was burnt out.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I was exhausted. And I thought this money that, you know, from being broke was gonna make me happy. So I'm doing better and everyone else that thought I was gonna do. And at this point you're married you have three kids. Yeah married three kids and and my wife like she so she pulls this trick by the way just so everybody will understand this is where a lot of people hate my wife yeah but they they don't like to look in the mirror and own their shit. Yeah. Okay I always say all
Starting point is 00:07:41 change starts with truth and honesty. Yep. Okay so my wife is one of these people that's like look you want me to feed your ice cream like a two, three, four and five year old make you feel good? Is that what you want? You want to feel good? You want me to give you the little walk on eggshells, sugar coated conversation where I can't tell you the truth because I'm going to upset you and offend you because you can't handle it?
Starting point is 00:07:57 Or do you want the cold hard truth and do you want me to treat you like the bad ass you say you are? Has she always been this way? Yeah, she's a hot blooded Mexican, man. But by the way, I will tell you something. Leading up to this, I almost went to jail. I almost got in trouble. I almost had all kinds of problems happen.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Do you know why? Because my wife used to be direct with me and one day I told her, I'm like, babe, stop nagging me. Which it happens because again, where do they train you how to be a great husband? Where do they train you how to learn to take criticism? No one trained you. And by the way, all the people that I was working around,
Starting point is 00:08:26 if I was to tell them, hey, my wife keeps swearing me out to do this and that, you know what they'd say? Dude, you don't have to put up with that shit, man. You have to put, dude, running with the wrong freaking people. And so I get this, I get this ungrounded feeling where like I'm the shit, right? And by the way, I'm going to tell gonna tell you this like everybody no matter where you are I was in Oklahoma this was I was doing better than the most of the people that were around me and and this is where you felt good about yourself yeah like I was like I'm independent I'm badass I've lost everything God gave me all this I'm taking credit for it right and and really I ain't even done nothing that's how how stupid I am because I'm just ignorant.
Starting point is 00:09:06 But Jackie one day, I go through trouble and I realized my wife has always wanted to protect me. She's always been there for me. Everything that she said, like, hey, don't hire that guy. Hey, Andy, don't work for that guy. I was making decisions based off money and Jackie was saying you make decisions
Starting point is 00:09:20 based off your standards or what you stand for. Yep. And I'm like, yeah, babe, but you know, like if we could just, you know, two years, we could be in this new place and this new spot. And you know, she's like, Andy, but that's not right. And I'm like, it's a gray area, babe. Why?
Starting point is 00:09:35 Because sometimes it's hard to take information from the person that's closest to you. Sometimes it's like you guys don't show 20 years, you may be telling them something every damn day. And then one time, I have a conversation one time, and he's like, oh, dude, that makes sense. I'm going to change. You're like, bro, I've been telling you for 20 damn years.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And that's what my wife did on this day. So this day, she decides, all right, this night before, she heats up my food three times. I'm on my way, babe. I'll see you in 30 minutes. She heats up the food. How's it ready? I don't show up. An hour later, are you coming or not? Yes, I'm on my way right now. I'm getting in the car. Heats up food, has it ready. I don't show up. Hour later, are you coming or not?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yes, I'm on my way right now. I'm getting in the car. Heats up my food, I don't show up. There's always that one more deal. Always that one more deal. You know what I mean? By the way, so you gotta be careful who you're trying to please here.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I took better care of my customers than I did my family. Now listen, a lot of people can't say that. You know why? Because they don't own their shit. The truth of it is, honestly, if my wife told me something bothered her, I probably would ignore it, maybe try to fix it. But if someone at work was having a real problem,
Starting point is 00:10:33 I would step in like the hero. Totally screwed up, man. Again, leaderless. We're in a leaderless nation. I was leaderless. And I just needed an awakening, right? And so Long story short Jackie come home one night that heating up heating up heating up. She's like fine. All right tonight I'm gonna lay it out
Starting point is 00:10:53 We're gonna we're gonna decide some ultimatums And I don't she didn't say like i'm gonna leave but I felt Like she was sick and tired of being sick and tired She had enough and she was drawing a very hard line for me. And she said, well, number one, she triggered me two ways very quickly. One she said, number one, me and the kids have learned to live without you, period. So just so you're aware, okay, I could have got money on my own. My wife's very independent. She's like, I didn't need you to make money.
Starting point is 00:11:20 So if you think you going and making money and being gone all the time, coming home fucking exhausted and not taking care of the me like are you kidding me? No ways I didn't marry you for that. Okay, you lied to me That is not the man. I married and so like in my head I'm thinking my mom left when I was two five brothers and sisters Jerry Springer shit show grew up poor I've done all this look who I've become and she's like dude. Don't sell me that victim shit Okay, I see who you can become you're not becoming it and I'm not okay with it This is where you realize you number one
Starting point is 00:11:53 You're either a winner or loser a winner realizes Oh my god, I got someone in my life that believes in me and they want to see me go to a new level This is my chance, right? That's how I that's the road. I decided to take Okay, I thought long and hard about it for a minute. Or I could have been like, screw her. Who is she to talk to me like that? I'm doing better than everyone else I know. I've beaten all odds.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I broke the bloodline. Are you kidding me? I've broke generational cur- I could have done all that. You know what? By the way, so this is where the second part triggering she comes from. As I'm getting mad and ego, clearly your wife knows how to piss you off. Are you married? Your wife knows how to piss you off, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:31 She can build you up to be a bad ass man or she can cut your legs off in two seconds. She knows you better than anyone else in the world. And so my wife reaches over and grabs my love handle, bro. No, I'm not even joking. And she kind of like grabs it and then kind of like pulls on it. And she's like, you're getting comfortable. And I didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And it felt like spiders were crawling up my back when she grabbed my love handle because I could feel how out of shape I was. And I felt disgust. And I almost wanted to take it out on her. And by the way, this is anybody that really wants to change their life right now. This is the people say, you got called out bro.
Starting point is 00:13:08 No, I got called up. She gave me a chance to level up as a man at that point and become who I promised her I was going to become the day that I met her. And I lied to her forever. And so you either own it, you become great. I wouldn't be, look, I 50 X my income when I grew up, when I changed my life. I was able to do what I never thought I could ever do. Bigger than any dream I've ever done when I decided to start raising my damn standards,
Starting point is 00:13:33 get my shit together and become a different person, alter my identity, change my intentions. My intentions from like, I want to go make money to like, now I want to help people become a good person to be an example Right. I never thought about any of that my mind never thought that way But I go in the garage work out for four hours, dude. I freaking shave my head a hair at this time I shaved my head. I just need to see a different person. I walked back in I remember my wife sitting there and she's like look You feel better? I
Starting point is 00:14:02 Was like yes, and she said that's because that's who you are. You're made to take care of yourself. You haven't been taking care of yourself. If you don't take care of yourself, you can't take care of me. You can't take care of the kids. If you don't love you Andy, you can't love us. That's the way it goes. You work so hard for these people that aren't going to be here for you.
Starting point is 00:14:20 If something happens and you get sick, none of those people that you're working hard for are going to be here. I will always be here. The kids will always be here. Who are you trying to please?" She's like, there is a chance. Right now, you can change everything. Just make some decisions. And so I realized at that point, my wife was my greatest coach and I just wasn't listening for 15 years. Now, I immediately, this is where the pivot happened. I go online, I never went on the internet, and I literally typed in motivation, because I needed to be motivated, right? That's like milk, like I needed something to tell me what to do next.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And I never went on the internet. I was never on social media. I didn't even own a social media account. So I go on YouTube, I type in motivation, and Tony Robbins pulls up. I'm like, I'll watch this guy for like two minutes and see how I feel. Long story short, two hours later, I'm sitting there and I'm like feeling different,
Starting point is 00:15:11 I'm thinking different, I'm ready to take over the world, I believe I can do these different things. And dude, he says what I'm feeling. He goes, if you're feeling different, if you're thinking different now, if you believe now, right, and that you can do things that you didn't think you could do before you started watching this, maybe it's because you can. And the only person that's been hurting you is you, and you're in the way of you. And I was like, I'm like, is this guy freaking talking to me? And he was talking to me, because that's what we do.
Starting point is 00:15:37 We talk to people on the other side of the camera like people are right now. And then there was this little button. He goes, if you want to change your life, this is the KBB, the broker blueprint course with Dean Graciosi, Tony Robbins, and Russell Brunson on how to teach your specialized skill. I don't care what you do for a living. I know you're good at something. What are you good at? And I'm like, I'm good at sales. And I'm thinking, I'm like talking to the TV, and I'm like, I'm good at sales.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And he's like, you can take that specialized skill. And people that are good at whatever you just said you're good at will pay you to learn how to be good at that. You can broker your skill for money and you can leave your job you're in now, the one that you don't want and do what you love and help other people. When's the last time you helped someone? I'm like, dude, is this guy talking to me? And I'm like, I swear on my life, I'm just like, is this guy talking to me?
Starting point is 00:16:22 And then I almost didn't do it. I did what everybody will do. I started talking myself out of it. I'm not this guy, that guy's famous. He's been doing it for 30 years. I've never been on social media. Where would I start? I've never done anything like this. I'm a car salesman.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I don't know how to do this. Watch, craziest thing I tell people all the time is I almost didn't do it. Dude, I almost didn't do it. Dude, I almost didn't do it. I came this close to just click turning it off instead of click and buying that training program. I bought that training program. It was three grand.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Changed my life. Now I've spent millions of dollars on self-development. It was the greatest thing I ever did. I just learned this one simple thing. Taking a little bit of time each day to work on me. Not my business, not even my wife, not even my kids, just on me. My mind is not my friend. It's never been my friend. It's never told me good things.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I have to tell my mind how things are going to go. I have to be really good to me. For 39 years, I was really, really bad to me. And I talked bad to me, and my mind was a trash can, which is why I ruined everything that got in front of me. And my intentions were all about making money because I thought when I was young, because we were poor, if we just made money, we would be successful. And then my wife explained the definition of success is getting it all. We need to be close to God. You need to be a great father. You need to be your children's hero.
Starting point is 00:17:45 You need to be, I want to have a husband I admire and I look up to. That's what I want. I want not you to motivate the sales team. I love that. I want you to go to work and come home and be a winner. And I want to look in your eyes and know that you gave it all you got.
Starting point is 00:17:56 That's what I want. I married a winner. But also I want you to come home and motivate the family. How about that? Amen. Hey guys, it's Chris. If you're finding value in what you're hearing, go ahead and like and subscribe. That way people just like you can find this
Starting point is 00:18:08 content for free here on YouTube. Now let's dive back into the show. And I'm just like, anyway, so that was when it all changed. And you know, I'm sure you guys can relate with it. I mean, you bring up a principle that I've always been a fan of is that the mind is an external thing working on who we really are. I've always been a fan of is that the mind is an external thing, working on who we really are. I've always believed that who we really are rests in the heart, right? And that's the reason why you can have these crazy thoughts, positive or negative, on all different things. It's not until you actually dwell on them that they actually sink down and either become
Starting point is 00:18:41 who you are, for better or for worse. But yeah, it's an interesting concept. And when you kind of separate the mind from everything else, it allows you to have just so much more self-mastering. So I've done a lot of the Tony Robbins programs. I've done the Day of Destiny, the Business Mastery, Unleash the Power of Thin. What's interesting, I've also done like
Starting point is 00:19:01 the Joe Dispenza meditation stuff. Have you heard of that? Yeah. And it's fascinating because both of them are are focused on the mind on controlling the mind reprogramming the mind and Very different approaches but the end of the day It's yeah, dude And listen I say this all the time because this will set the foundation for everything because there will be people that maybe will watch This and they're gonna be like dude that guy's a fraud. No, no, watch it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Listen to me. Here's what's wrong with the world. Okay? When someone decides to change their life, we should stand by them and help them change their life. Yeah. We actually talked about this at my church on Sunday. Yeah, because if you would have met me back then, I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:19:41 You wouldn't have liked me. I didn't like me. Yeah, yeah. I didn't like me. I didn't know I didn't like me. Lost people don't know they're lost. Right. So like, you know, like people are like, dude, I learned that in 2015.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I'm like, bro, I hated that guy in 2015. If you would have met him, I hated him too. But dude, come meet me now. Come shake my hand now. Come talk to me now. That's all that matters. And that's the problem is that like, I tell women all the time,
Starting point is 00:20:05 because like I'm really big on the family values of marriage and I'm like hunting down these great leader men that don't know they're great leader men yet. And I'm telling the women, I'm like, listen to me, you're a man, you want him to change, stop reminding him of who he used to be, period. Okay, listen to me. If I tell my kid when he screws up, you're a bad kid, but I want you to be a good kid.
Starting point is 00:20:30 It's not going to work. You've owned him and labeled him as a bad kid. I tell my wife, you can't get historical with me. You can't. I'm a man. I screw up all the time, but you got to remind me. Someone has to be reminding me who I am and I'm trying my hardest to do that for me. But when you see a man trying to change or even a woman trying to change, when someone's
Starting point is 00:20:48 trying to change, their partner needs to say, hey, look, that's not who you are. What you just did isn't you. Okay? Let me tell you who you are. You're like this, you're like this, you're a leader, you make good decisions. You know, you have to do that. And that's why everybody needs a coach. And anyways, I just want to tell you that like anybody who's watching this people are gonna say oh, well, I saw this thing Yeah, it's all true. It's probably ten times worse everything you found
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah, but that's the power and like being a reborn again Christian or whatever faith anybody believes in like changing Yeah, you know, it's interesting. It's like one thing in theory and one thing in practice, right? Theoretically, everybody is like, oh, you know, I forgive all people. I allow people to change, but actually allowing it to take place. It's one of the most powerful ways of forgiving, right?
Starting point is 00:21:39 Like in the scripture, it talks about of you, it's required to forgive all men. That doesn't just mean like, hey wrong me I forgive you it's like I'm not gonna hold you to your previous standard right I'm actually allowing you to change that is a true methodology of forgiveness is just like looking past who they are and seeing who they could become and yeah I think it's extremely powerful and the fact that you have that in your wife is fantastic. Yeah, your wife sounds like the one
Starting point is 00:22:06 we need to be talking to. You guys do. Incredible for her to pull that out of you. I was gonna ask you, are you, so obviously you were motivated to change personally. Are you at a stage where like, seeing other people like not being the person to impact others drives you more than change yourself like yeah, where do you where do you find the most motivation?
Starting point is 00:22:30 so Well, so you get these dopamine hits right when you do something and then so making money was like a dopamine hit for a long Time but then the second you cash the check it's gone And then I hunt it for 30 more days And then my pay cycle comes and I get that dopamine hit. And then I'm back on the hunt again. I'm literally on the hunt now, 25, 7, 365. Anybody that I run into, if you run into me,
Starting point is 00:22:56 I'm gonna make you strong, I'm gonna make you feel powerful, I'm gonna make you feel strong, I'm gonna make you feel like you can take over the world and do anything, I'm gonna make you wanna be a leader. I don't care how you've been thinking. I'm going to brainwash you to actually care about people. I'm going to brainwash you to think differently. I'm going to make you believe in a whole different way.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And I do this at the grocery store. I always say this. Leaders, it's not an on and off switch. It's in the community. It's at home, and it's in the business. It's everywhere. If people go, well, yeah, I'm so glad. Look, when you get off work, the leaders, you're a manager, you're a boss, you're not a leader.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Nobody wants a boss or a manager. Everybody wants a leader. Everybody wants a coach. Really, honestly, a leader and a coach are the same thing, but I prefer coach, because a coach is someone that's just coaching somebody, it's positively peer pressuring them to become better, to believe differently all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And I believe everyone needs a coach, dude. I mean, I literally just paid Gary Brek at 50 grand this morning to take over my fitness. I'm not even joking, dude. Anybody that can do something better than me, I got one life, it's short, I'm not gonna play around. People say, oh yeah, I can do it on my own. Okay, cool, take four years.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Take four years. I want it now, man. I'm 45 years old, dude. I'm not playing around. And by the way, if you're 20 watching this, you take this advice now at 20. Now you don't wait till you're 45. Nobody was telling me this at 20. It's interesting because we had a – so we went to this program at Harvard, OPM, but
Starting point is 00:24:16 we – marketing has changed a lot and we talked about this in a case study where in the past, there was only – there's few channels for marketers and a lot of stuff was driven by fear base. And now that there's opened up with all social media and all these different platforms, the people buy into hope. The heart. Yeah, and so now it's changed.
Starting point is 00:24:37 You can't do fear based marketing like you used to. It has to be based off of something that people want, people hope. Well even fear based leadership. Dude, you guys are my age. So bottom line is, I mean, I'm just a couple years older than you guys, but listen, how do they motivate you in your age? You don't do this, you're fired. Right? Hey, you don't do this, you're out of here. You want to get back to where you were? You want to go somewhere else? You think someone else is going to pay you this kind of money? Dude, that was how it was. Dude, now?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah, that was my first car sales bot. No, but my point is so you guys understand fear leadership, right? Now watch this. My wife reminds me every day, nobody works here because they're afraid of you. People work here because they know how much you love them. Dude, listen to me. It is a superpower to use your heart, to play with your heart. Your heart should always be right here.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And we're in an era where people say, don't get close to your people. Don't get close to your employees. Don't get close to your team. Don't let them know too much. Dude, I'm totally transparent with every single person in my company. I share everything with them. Dude, if somebody's suffering, I will pay for their house. I will buy their cars.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I will do anything. I don't care. And by the way, yes, I get burned. People say, I don't do that. I got burned one time. Yeah, it's part of the deal. You know what? I've got 50 loyal people and I've had 10 that burned me and I wouldn't have the 50 loyal.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I wouldn't have the army I had had I not trusted that all 60 of them were going to be it and 10 of them didn't work out fine. And when someone betrays me, all it does is make me be more grateful for the ones who didn't betray me. It's like, dude, you've got to change your freaking lenses. And so a couple of things you said you got to change your mind. Your mind should ultimately change your perspective, which changes your lenses, which changes the way that you see everything.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Because most people, they don't see anything good in people anymore. Dude, every time I see someone, I'm like, dude, this guy's capable of greatness. Everyone is. And that's not no bull crap. This is my ministry, dude. Listen, I should not be here. Number one, it, this guy's capable of greatness. Everyone is. And that's not no bull crap. This is my ministry, dude. Listen, I should not be here. Number one, it's by God's decision. I should not be.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I'm just obedient, man. I just listen. And I keep screwing up. But when I screw up, I say, hey, I own that. That's a mistake. My bad. I didn't intentionally try to hurt anybody. I wasn't wanting to hurt anybody.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I was trying to try my best. You fell your way to winning. And dude, the more you talk about this, people are going to be like, dude, you know what? OK, cool. I'm going to try my best you fail your way to winning and do the more you talk about this people are gonna be Like did you know what? Okay, cool. I'm gonna roll like that and that's how we've been building our Brand is by and we've been pissing a lot of people who are lazy off people that are haters dude I used to be a hater. This is ten seconds I was in a car dealership what you said used to work in and I'm just telling you I want you understand this
Starting point is 00:27:03 I'm a manager. I'm making good money. And I'm just fat. I'm sitting at the desk. I'm not fat-shaming people. I'm just telling you, when you get in shape, you're going to love yourself. Your life's going to go to another level. And you're going to have an edge.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And you're going to be elite. Take care of yourself. It's your temple. It's your body. It's your life. Take care of yourself. But I saw this guy walk across showroom floor. And I was a manager.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And I was sitting in the tower, where they work the deals, the cells tower and I'm just humming This guy walks by shredded, bro And I was like F that guy I think it in my head. I'm like I bet that guy drives a four-tours I got a freaking fire do bro. I start just I bet that guy doesn't make very much money. I bet that guy Lives in a shitty ass small. I bet he's in an make very much money. I bet that guy lives in a shitty ass small, I bet he's in an apartment.
Starting point is 00:27:47 You know what I realized? That guy, because of the standard he held on himself and the discipline he had, he made me question me. Yeah, that's awesome. And instead of me saying, hey dude, thanks for holding the standard, bro, you just made me question me, I'm gonna change, which is what I do now.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I said F that guy because I was like I didn't want to own my shit and then so the night when my wife crazy thing when she triggered me and grabbed my love handle that struck me immediately that guy and so crazy how like photographic times that like you stick with you I was like why am I not that guy have you ever heard that like people are with you, I was like, why am I not that guy? Have you ever heard that like people are a reflection of your inside, so like the things that bug you about other people are really things that bug you about yourself?
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah, that was it. And so you saying F that guy, you're saying it to yourself? Yeah. You're like, F it, I'm not gonna be that guy. Yeah, cause he made me question myself, why not me? And that's the biggest deal is that really, I think every message you put out is like, why not me? And that's the biggest deal is that really, I think every message you put out is like, why not you?
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah. Right? And like, you know, traditional education is school. And this is like the greatest, a podcast is the greatest education you can get. Yeah. You know, you bring up an incredible point. So I have 39 strategies and theories of running a business. And one of them is focused around truth and transparency.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Truth and transparency is as you shared where everything changes and where you get full buy-in. In fact, I think it's the greatest showing of love. When you are truth and transparent with people, when you can hit them straight, when you share with them why they're there. It's interesting, you have two customers in a business, right, you have your employees as customer number one, and you have your end user as customer number two. When you are truthful across the board, you can charge more money, make bigger profits.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Like there's so much power in just being able to be completely owning the truth, which means comfortable that you're not perfect, right? Like not trying to justify where you sit, where you're at, right? Like understanding that like, hey, I screwed up, I'm making changes, right? And I mean, obviously you've figured out a lot of the science
Starting point is 00:29:58 behind building culture. It's the same, what you're talking about is the same stuff that we use to build a business out of my garage in four and a half years to 1,100 employees and just a rock star culture of like die hard people that were bought into the vision, the direction. And like this applies to any business. It can be in the solar business. It can be in sales training. It can be in anything. Right. You like you could literally be coca-cola And it doesn't matter if you apply these principles You're gonna be able to build something that's far exceeds what you're currently doing and but the Information you knew wasn't why people followed you they followed you because you were their example you were their leader They believed in you. Yeah, I tell people all the time if people don't want to be you. They're not gonna follow you Yeah, absolutely. I heard people don't care what you believe.
Starting point is 00:30:46 They care how much you believe in what you believe. Yeah, huge. That's when people wanna follow you. That's called a pro. That's a professional right there. Yeah, if you can do that, which there's a slight difference. Yeah. You know, like two people, well, I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:31:00 No, you're not. No, you're not. It's in selling, right? Even if you go to sell solar, right? I'm just gonna use an example. Any industry, but if you're going to sell something, you're not. No, you're not. It's in selling, right? Yeah. Even if you go to sell solar, right? I'm just going to use an example. Any industry. But if you're going to sell something, you know the presentation, if you know the slide deck,
Starting point is 00:31:10 if you know all this stuff, if you know everything, and you're trying to make someone believe this information, no, whoever believes, whoever believes the most that that is the greatest, that person is the greatest salesman in the history of the world, not the one that can do the best presentation. It's the one who believes the most. So a lot of people try to get people to believe in this, and I'm like, no, dude, I believe.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I believe. I believe that that's the best. I don't even need to show you this. I know it's the best. And people will buy stuff they don't even need because the person believes so much. And there's just a slight difference. And only the pros know that the belief system in anything and I call it sells but the belief system is
Starting point is 00:31:51 what selling a dream get a bank to do alone they wouldn't have never done for anyone else but they'll do it for you because they see something in you your eyes are just on fire it's like magnetic I have to say though us walking in here we saw your culture right off the bat. Yep, feel it right away. We even had to do the Armageddon workout. Yeah. Two and 400 reps, my arms are like, what the freak?
Starting point is 00:32:12 They do it every day. Yeah, good for them. Good for them. So we keep the gym in company. I love it. So they can go down. You know how it is, Dillon, doing stuff? I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, it's interesting. We've had to completely reset, so we sold our business to private equity, right? Got a big payday, all the things that every entrepreneur claims and dreams and whatever. But then it's like, okay, what's next, right? And so there's aspects of that momentum that we've missed and we're now reestablishing and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:32:46 But yeah, man, building a culture like that, I mean, props to you, man. You're doing it the right way, and it's fun to see and just see your own personal touch, but just like the mutual principles in which we were able to build our business off of and see that they work across industry's it's a lot of fun. It's a hero-making machine right is what it is. People say well how do I build a great team? Well
Starting point is 00:33:13 there has to be a leader to build the culture. The leader decides what the environment's gonna look like, what's tolerated, what's not tolerated. You can't come in here and be negative. So but how did you how did you learn that because we were? Part of good cultures, and we're like dude. That's what we want and we did it sounds like you weren't part of no I was a part of the worst culture in the history of the world I always tell people you know what a winner is yeah, okay cool. You know what a loser is yeah Well if you don't want to be a loser you do the opposite of what losers do and then you become a winner And then if you do the opposite of what the greatest in the world do,
Starting point is 00:33:45 which are the winners, you become a loser. It's very simple, it's like black and white. And so I just wanted to tell you that I basically had poor leadership my whole life. Remember, November of 2019, right now it's 2024, so you gotta realize it's almost 2020 I started. Me and my wife, quickly, we sold our house, okay? We sold that house in Oklahoma, we sold our furniture,
Starting point is 00:34:04 we sold our cars, we sold everything. I gotta- Change your identity. Yeah, I got a $1,500 car, Jackie got a, listen, I always say this, man. If you wanna make more money, you gotta devalue money. Stop chasing money. Yep.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Stop chasing money. Amen. You wanna attract it, okay? Become the greatest example on planet Earth. And what does great value mean? I always tell people, if you wanna make more money, you gotta create more value. How to create more value?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Become a leader. The greatest, scarcest resource in the planet of Earth right now, in the home, in the community, and in businesses is leadership. And so if you want to get paid more than you ever imagine getting paid in your life, you got to become a leader. And then you make all the money. And by the way, everybody's looking for leaders
Starting point is 00:34:38 because we're in a leadership nation. I mean, it's just crazy. So I never had a leader. And all of this language that I'm learning, or that I'm even saying, I live this shit. It's one thing to learn it, it's another thing to live it. And then once you live it, now you loan it. You're like, okay, I'm going to give it to him, and I'm going to give it to him, and I'm going to give it to him, and I'm going to give it to him. Because you're so afraid, dude, honestly, I'm so afraid that if I don't get my hands on someone, that they're going end up, if I wouldn't have watched that video and then decided to make a decision to buy that training course, which means prove that I was worth betting on, is basically what the decision was.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Okay, because I almost didn't do it, because I wanted to keep the money more than I wanted to go and sit and watch this training. But I was so sick of my own shit. I was so sick of it, dude. I just, I was disgusted. And sometimes I would say this, you can only help people that are looking for answers. You help people on the bottom that are on, they're just, they're struggling, they're on bottom. They're sick of their crap. They're tired of being sick and tired.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Those people are looking for answers. You can help them. If someone's talking to you and you wanna change their life, if they're looking for answers, coach them. In the middle, if they can't be bothered, and they bothered and they don't really care, you can't help those people. I don't want to talk to those people. Look, dude, if I say something to you and it could change your life and you don't care
Starting point is 00:35:52 about it, I don't want to talk to you. I'm not being negative, but you're not looking for answers. I'm wasting my time. It's like trying to train a sales rep that doesn't want to go out and sell and doesn't want to do anything. But now people at the top, you're not always just training people at the bottom. We train billionaires. These people, man, dude, being a billionaire, you create crazy ass problems in here.
Starting point is 00:36:11 You've ruined your family in most cases. You've gotten really physically out of shape. I'm 45. I know a lot of guys that they're in their 40s, they're not in great. They're not in their most elite shape. And to have a lot of money and a bank full of cash and have everything you want, be able to buy whatever you want, but look in the mirror and not be on your 100% A game, which is your elite version, it's not okay.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And so everybody has these little pockets and holes, and then there's your next life, which is what you're going to build now, which is your coaching game, whatever you do. I think ultimately right now, the people that have sold businesses like you, that have kicked ass, done everything that you guys have done, ultimately what you guys could do is become the greatest standard in the history of time, human excellence to the highest level and go teach everything you've done to literally re-clone yourself as many times as you can. Yep. And that's, I mean that's exactly what we're working on.
Starting point is 00:36:59 You know, everybody's failing in one aspect or another, you know, but yeah, yeah, I agree I agree. I agree. So You're 45 This all took place when you were 41, right? Like what were so you picked up you move you move over to Arizona Yeah, we went one year. What were some of the initial changes you made besides relocating? Well, we went to Oklahoma, number one. We were in Oklahoma my whole life. We worked by ourselves in that rent house. We literally went to Arizona.
Starting point is 00:37:33 We started our team in 2022, 2021 roughly. I didn't have a team, it was just me and Jackie. And then in the last two and a half years, or wait, it was 2021 we started building our team So from 2019 and November to really 2021 of January That was just me and her making sure that we were You know, we felt good. We didn't bring it want to bring in one on that we couldn't take care of Yeah, and then boom we were like we're gonna do this and then we brought on one at a time
Starting point is 00:38:02 And then now we have I think like 86 people on on our team. It's incredible. It's a lot of fun. I mean you're right in the thick of the incredible stuff right? You're attracting great great talent just from the culture, from the leadership that you've created and yeah. That's cool man. Life can be whatever you want. Right. Okay and that's why you need to be around great people so that you can think bigger, so you can dream bigger and sometimes God just puts you in be around great people so that you can think bigger so you can dream bigger and Sometimes God just put you in front of somebody just to shake you up just a little bit. Hey guys, it's Chris Hey a lot of you leave comments asking for help. Do me a real quick favor Shoot me a text at five zero nine three seven four seven five five four. That's five zero nine three seven four seven five five four
Starting point is 00:38:43 Shoot me a text. I'll answer and help you with whatever you need. Don't worry, I got you back. Let's go back to the show, baby. So everybody has fears and everybody has like weak points that they draw on to be able to like what I've seen in high level leadership, high level producers or whatever. Usually there's something, a chip on the shoulder, some past moment in their life that they constantly draw on to be able to get more energy. What are some of those things for you?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Today, I just don't wanna die with your grunts anymore. At 39, when I would've died, I would've hated me. So is it you're consistently going back to 39 or are there other moments in your life that you're going back to and be like... Everything 39 and back, I hate. Dude, listen, I hate my old life. I'm very clear. I don't go to Oklahoma and people say, oh this guy's got problems. Hey, I'm gonna be honest with you, I do got problems. I've never met anybody that don't have problems.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I know what I want, I know what I don't want. And I don't want anything to do with that old dude that used to be alive I hate that guy and so now every decision I make is to make sure that that guy stays buried and that guy stays dead He ain't I'm not letting him come out So do you believe that everybody has to go to those same extremes to be able to make those changes? I believe greatness is found in the extremes. And so if you don't become obsessed No one will ever know your name. Amen can never become great Look, dude. I was watching this Andy for Zella real and he was saying Winners are exhausted the founding fathers of our country. They built this country. They were exhausted people that build big shit. They're exhausted. I Love it. I was exhausted being a loser
Starting point is 00:40:22 Now I'm exhausted being a winner. I love my life. I love it. So what's next? Choose your heart. Right, like you built some pretty sweet and three, four year period time. Stay consistent. That's all I wanna do.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Just like you guys talked to Tommy, I just wanna keep keeping my promise to my team, the people that have believed with me and been with me since day one. And then as big as God will let us get, we'll get. But there's not, everyone's like, you want to make a billion? I'm like, dude, honestly, we're so blessed. Like we have everything we need.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I just want to stay, I want to stay on the path and every day, 1% better. I just want us all to, and I want us all to get better. I love it. And I want to impact more people. Yeah. I mean, that is literally the ground floor of what our message is. So we run a group called Next Level Pros and essentially what it means is no matter where you're at, success isn't defined by a point, it's by a trajectory, right? And that there's always a next level to who you are, right?
Starting point is 00:41:23 Because I'm friends with 50 billionaires, right? And there's a lot of those guys that I would not define as successful, right? Because their trajectory either is plateaued or it's down, right, and so it doesn't matter how much money in the bank account, how much you weigh, whatever else, if you're not on this path of taking it to the next level. Recreating.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Yeah, recreating, and so I think, you know, our messages are extremely aligned with what you're doing and dude appreciate you jumping on the show. I appreciate you guys man, seriously. And so what uh so what obviously uh official Andy Elliott on Instagram, what are the best spots to get a hold of you or to be a part of you got these different coaching programs what not how do how do people get access to you? Yeah so when when you go to Instagram, official Andy Elliott, I mean, it's pretty simple. YouTube, we have thousands of videos on YouTube. Absolutely love it. Appreciate you being on. And as always, for those that are on the Next Level
Starting point is 00:42:16 Pro podcast, you know, to be able to get access to our coaching community, go to go nextlevelpros.com, we'll be able to take care of you, you'll be able to get access to being a part of those weekly coaching calls and get great people like Andy involved in your life. Appreciate you. Until next time.

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