Next Level Pros - How To Use Social Media To Generate Endless Leads For Your Home Service Business | Jade Sprake

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

Most home service companies post finished work and five star reviews, then wonder why nobody cares or calls. In this episode, Jade Sprake breaks down how she generated over 10 million views by making content that feels human, story driven, and actually social, even without a camera crew. You’ll learn what to film day to day, how to make homeowners feel connected to you, and why a personal brand can win jobs even when you’re not the cheapest.CONNECT WITH ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA!TEXT ME: 509-905-4109INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/chrisleeqb/?hl=enFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/chrisleeqb/TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@chrisleeqbPartner Spotlight: 1SEO Digital Agency: At Next Level Pros, we teach you the best ways HOW to market your business. If you want additional hands-on help executing, we trust 1SEO, our marketing partner. They implement SEO, PPC, Google Local Services Ads, and high-performance websites that turn stronger operations into booked jobs. Learn more or book a consult: https://1seo.com/next-level-pros/

Most home service companies are using social media like a portfolio. They post their finished work. They post five-star reviews. And then they wonder why nobody cares. In this episode, I'm sitting down with Jade Sprake. She's pulled in over 10 million views in the home service space. And she breaks down what actually drives attention and inbound demand. We get in the shift that changes everything.

Stop trying to prove your good and start making people feel connected to you. Jade breaks down what that actually looks like in practice from what to film when you don't have a camera crew, how to make the day-to-day interesting, to the pieces of content that will always outperform those before and after photos. If you want more leads and a brand people choose, even when you're not the cheapest in town, this one's for you. Jade, you have over 10 million views on your social media platform just in the last six months alone, almost 50,000 followers on Instagram, all in the home service space.

what do guys need to be doing to get this kind of exposure? The first thing I would think of is like people need to stop posting so much about like the customer reviews and the work that they're doing and like speaking into all the jobs that they're doing but more so speak into like who they are, why they run it, who their team is, like the values behind the company, the things the company focuses on and then show it. So you're telling me like they've got to stop showing like the results like, hey, this is the new job I did. People will post like just a photo of a testimonial and it's like what does that do for anyone? Like I feel like if I really wanted to check working with you, I would go look at the Google reviews. I'll look at your website. All the information I need to know about the job and the execution you can do lives there. But social media to me is the place that you actually get to connect with somebody.

And it's really disconnected to just show them like a photo of a house and be like windows are in. And it's like cool. Like it doesn't really help much. But getting to like tell a story of like people don't understand the amount of work it takes to actually put a window in a house, for example, or like all of those steps. And like, explaining that out is actually a lot more interesting and being like, or like people will say, like, I can imagine like the storyline of people, have you ever seen that thing that people are like, have you ever, have you ever seen your neighbor take out their garbage? And people are like, never. Like, it doesn't exist. Like,

it's just like one of those, like, we're all in like the same mirage that like our neighbors never take out their garbage. But like imagine being like, you've never seen windows be put in a house today's the day. And then you like joke around with it being like, this is your moment. And like that to me is a lot more interesting and I'm more like emotionally connected to like how are they going to turn out than being like cool windows. So what I'm hearing is make social media social. Make it social, make it creative, make it your own. Just make it so like the more creative creativity that you can throw into it to me is like the most valuable thing that you can do. Again, like your personality is the most like it is the most valuable thing that you can own. And I think leaning harder into the things that you can

create from yourself for your company is so strong other than being like house like this job is done this is done like showing the back end showing the struggles showing like if anything like the best way that you can show a customer testimonial isn't like what they say or the finished product but getting those videos being like we surprised our like customer with doing like she wanted her floor is redone but we ended up redoing her entire first like first and second floor and we're going to surprise her. And like that kind of stuff will hit harder than any like written testimonial review. So Jay, the reason why you're sitting here today is because I saw one of your Instagram videos and you've had a lot of viral videos about the trades. You have a great personal brand. How has

your ability to tell stories and build a personal brand impacted you in the trades and home services? I feel like it started with, it started being honestly because I just kind of owned that I didn't know anything about trades or the industry and was going into something that like was completely unknown, but I wanted to do it as a girl who was young who didn't have a degree or no background in this space. And the biggest thing that I got out of it wasn't necessarily business or like anything that helped my companies grow or the franchises grow, but was just the ability to like meet cool people. Like a lot of the contracts that I got with other contract, like other trade companies to get contracts with them, a lot of just networking opportunities that I got with different people.

I would say like the biggest, yeah, biggest impact was more the people and the opportunities that it brought me in less like work. Well, it's interesting. You have something going for you that's like completely unique, especially in the trades and home services. One, you're young, 20, 22 years old. Usually people that are 22 in the trades are maybe working like a minimum wage job or whatnot. And two, you're female, right?

Like, that is rare in an industry that is dominated by men. I would say, you know, 95, 96% of trades companies are men unless it's like an administrative role or a back office or whatnot. But when it comes to like people being out in the field, running these businesses, managing, it's a pretty rare occurrence that a woman is at the helm. And so I think that's, you know, some of the things that like caught, you catch people's size or not. And so like you, you have like this master ability to go and tell stories about like, hey, I'm this young female owning a handyman. You, you ended up selling those companies, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. All three. We just sold our franchise. Since it was a franchise, it was like, we just got to a place where I was like, you know, someone else wanted our franchises and our cities. And I was like, you, let's do it. Like, why not? Let's do it. So we sold those about two, three months ago. So tell me this. How can story. impact anybody, regardless of what kind of company you own or whatnot. Give me a masterclass on that. I feel like to me, storytelling is really about like helping people see the vision that you want to create,

but also the emotional attachment of why you want to create that vision. Like for me, like owning a handyman company might not be the most glamorous thing, but it was like getting people to understand why I wanted to do this. I wanted to go into an industry that I kind of had no right being in and run. a team of guys that I had no right being the leader of and like get into those positions because then you either want people to root for you or honestly root against you. And I didn't really mind which direction they rooted in because it's just people now have an emotional attachment to the thing that you're doing, which I think is super insane. And when you create that,

you start to create that like mass movement framework where people start to like want to root for you or root against you. Um, like my favorite thing about storytelling is just like you never ever know who's watching. Like you never know who's watching. I wouldn't have known that you would have ever seen a video of me sitting in my room in Canada on my computer answering emails. Like how does that lead us to being here right now? Or lead me to some of the most amazing friendships that I currently have or different opportunities that I have. I think storytelling and the way that you can present what you're doing to the world is so valuable to get people to either buy in or out of the vision you're creating. So I'm a I'm a big believer that our online profile is essentially our resume and that

yeah, sure, maybe 95% of the views are irrelevant, right? Maybe it's somebody in South Africa, Canada or whatnot watching it. It doesn't speak to my end audience, right? Like, say, for example, I own an electrical company in Chicago. Yeah. And obviously, I'd like to get more Chicago homeowners to get electrical services from me. Right? Like, that's, that's the end goal. And I go and I tell this story or whatnot. And it's shared. with somebody in Florida or shared with it. And yes, some of those things are irrelevant,

but at the end of the day, I'm a big believer that, like, it's our online resume. So, like, if somebody is looking into your company, then they go to your social media profile and they see this story of what's being like, like those obviously are the most important views. Yeah, yeah, I think so too.

And, like, a big thing for us is that we ended up getting our client base was, like, highly women and moms and widows. And they just really loved that there was, like, a girl, behind like the whole thing, even though it was still men doing the jobs. It's still like all my guys, all my guys, contractors full times, all men. Not that I just know, no women applied. So not on me, but they just loved the idea that when they called, it was like me answering the phones. When things went like wrong or right or whatever the scenario was, I'd go up to their house. And then they'd be like, you run this? It was like such a nice feeling. I think that they also just like, it helped to buy into what I was doing being like, oh, you're just like this dreamer kid. Like this is awesome. You bring up a strong point, just like the power of having a woman's face in marketing in the home services is like so valuable right now. Yeah. I saw a stat the other day. It was actually somebody promoting like, hey, this, if you went and started this type of company in the home services.

And basically what it was is a company that appeals to single women that own homes, whether it's widows, never been married, divorces, whatever else. It's something like 20 to 25% of all homeowners are that fit into that camp. And a lot of times those people, they don't feel comfortable dealing with some random dude coming into their house, you know, that, hey, I'm not sure if there's background checks. I'm not sure, like, what does it actually happen here versus like having this nice forward-facing marketing face that, hey, you know, I feel comfortable. like appealing more to that like hey I'm willing to pay for security and comfort over even a job well done yeah I think the biggest thing that like I wanted to do was everything that I did online was actually never promoting the work we did there is not like one video of my guys ever finishing a job on my on my social media ever it was always about like the back end of running this

and what it takes to run it and then my like story and the way that I've like used a lot of like the way that I've spoken into what I did was all about that to me what I was running wasn't about the work. It was about the communication. That's the broken part of this industry. Like, there are so many guys who do amazing work and like do it every single day. But like the homeowner doesn't really, they obviously care of the work's great. But it actually, the broken side of it is all the systems that back it all up. Getting companies that actually are going to call you after and be like, did you actually like, did you enjoy that? Was it great? Like, did you like the service? Like, or just people who answer their phones in general

who are happy to talk to you because a lot of these trades guys who will answer their phone on the spot are also on the job at the same time and they're busy and the last thing they need is their phone ringing off the hook and they're doing admin in their trucks and whatever it might look like and then if anything

their customer service might not be at its best because like I mean you're busy like it's not their job to like answer phones and stuff but then when it is their job they don't really want to do it so then framing this whole company being around like yeah yeah we do great work like that's a given but we're here for the people we have the systems in place we have all the tech we have like the communication is here when you call

I will pick up my phone like that was the whole point I love that and frankly like that is not being portrayed in the home service industry right like you're exactly right like you go to most of these guys pages their Instagram page or whatnot it's finished work yeah right finished work and reviews, that's it. A little like before and after. Like, yeah, maybe a before and after. Yeah. This is what it looked like. This is the work that was done. Mary said five stars. It was fantastic. Yeah. Versus, yeah, showing the actual pain points behind. I think that's, that's phenomenal. Like that the focus is on that because that's such more of like the emotional time. Yeah. Right. Like all of our frustrations, at least mine, is dealing with customer service. Yeah.

Right. Dealing with people that are just like ignorant in the way that they follow certain processes or whatnot. Like if you ever find me pissed off, it's usually because like I'm like, that is just a dumb customer service person that is trying to exercise their authority for no apparent reason. It just making me mad. I actually just went through this when I was traveling home from Hawaii with a TSA person. I was just like, oh my gosh. But anyways, yeah, it's so, so intriguing. So tell me this.

I'm going to give you a scenario, and I would love to hear the way that you would portray the story. Okay. So if you were running this person's personal profile, how you would go in. And I'm going to give you a real, a real life scenario. Okay. So there's a guy named Rob. So he owns an electrical company called High Calibur Electric.

Okay. He's based in Antioch, Illinois. It's freaking cold right now. He's got four vans on the road. So they're out. They're doing home service stuff for the electrical space. They do main panel upgrades, new wire runs, switch out different plugs and switches and light fixtures. Stuff like that.

Sometimes battery backup or whole home generators, that type of thing. Back office, there is a CSR that answers the phones, a girl that sets the appointments, guy that runs the warehouse, they have a small little warehouse, you know, with supplies, 200 stars online reviews. And Rob is, has a living girlfriend, no kids. He's been running this trade for six or seven years. I've been running the company just over a year. And he's done a great job, build a nice local reputation. He's passionate about customer service and sales. He also understands the trade and knows how to go and do the actual work.

Much of his day looks like training his team, going and interacting. acting with customers, selling new jobs, making sure schedules are full and jobs are efficient. Yeah. So what is, understand. So that's the profile. What other questions do you have about Rob? I can try to give you. And then I would love to hear how you would portray that in a story.

I think I got it. Like, I feel like he, like if he's running this day to day and he has a team, he has people, people are out executing for him, he has vans, it's cold, there's all this stuff. then I feel like if you start, from what I see about a lot of people who do social media and are in the trade space is they talk a lot about the work that they do. And like, like you said, like before and after is the client results, all of that. But people are so curious about other people's lives and the way that their lives work is that if he documented his life behind the scenes, like, I think one of like my best videos I ever did was how much money we made in a week, which like sounds a little egotistical. But like it was true. But there were some days that we hit zero.

And it's like, Tuesday's zero. I watched that video. Yeah. And it's like, it's like doing stuff like that or even like the stuff where there's one guy who does it really well who owns like a snow plow company in Ontario. And he always makes videos about being like today like these are the plows were taken out. This is what we're going to do. This is how much we charge. How much we charge.

And like people are so interested in that stuff. People are intrigued in that. Because like we had the junk teens on our previous and one of their best videos is like they literally. have a tally of like how much they charged what they did. Yeah. I know your video. In fact, one of my best like comments ever is on one of your videos. I don't know if you knew this. I don't know that. Yeah. And it was like you should have raised your prices. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So good. And I think I have a few thousand. I remember that. A few thousand likes on that. But yeah. Yeah. Okay. Keep going. Yeah. I would picture like imagine, I could imagine just

doing things where it's like you make videos being like, this is how you treat your team. And you're not speaking from a place of authority. You're actually showing everything through action. Like one of my favorite things that I did was I don't actually feel like I have any authority to preach on. I am not trying to tell anyone how to run a handyman company. I don't feel like I can. I feel like I can speak from my experience, my experience alone. But the best thing I could do was just show all of the action I was putting into the things that I was doing because that speaks louder than any story I could tell, like speaking into being like, like, one of my favorite things is how we hired our guys and, like, getting, I didn't make a video about it, but like, because I wasn't doing videos at that point. But it would have been so interesting to, like, make a video, like, being, like, interviewing the guys and, like, not filming them, but just filming me and the kind of questions I asked them. And then just making videos being, like, here are the five questions. Like, not even framing it being, like, here are the five questions. I'd ask trades guys, because then you're putting yourself in authority, but framing it being, like, 22-year-old girl interviewing 45-year-old.

men. These are the five questions that I asked these 45-year-old. Yeah. And then being like, welcome to your interview. I'm your boss. And like, because I'm young, I can like joke about it and being like, I'm your boss. Let's get into this interview. That's what I literally did with these guys. But in like this, in Robb scenario, if he did a scenario that he was like, I can imagine like him going to site, going to homes where the guys are working and being like, how long you've been here? And he's like, oh, six hours. And it's like, okay, how much work have you done six hours? What does that work equate to like in like a monetary standard? Like, what does that look like?

And or just doing, I don't know, like documenting more about what you're doing and speaking less about what you're doing, I think is really strong. What do you mean documenting more and speaking less? Like, showing all the actions of what you're doing, not just like sitting, like we could sit here and I could tell you all about the handyman company, but it's not that interesting to hear from my mouth. It's so much more interesting to visually watch the story be told. I think, like, I do storytelling where I like actually will sit down and like tell a full story,

but I also do a lot of storytelling where you, just can get what's happening. Like there was a lot where I've done sales calls where I'm like calling back all the open estimates today. Let's see. And then I would make it a challenge and be like, how can I close $10,000 in three hours? Speaking of which, I'd love to show a couple of your clips just right here. Since the beginning of the year, I've had a secret goal to join this exclusive group, which is only people under 30 who all own businesses and meet on a private island once a year. But I don't make enough money yet to join. But the next best thing just happened to me. When my dad told me about this group a year ago, I just knew like I wanted to be a part of it.

I believe that so much success comes from your network and how valuable you are to your network. Two months ago, I got stood up by the same person four times. And it lost me $3,480. I'm going to tell you about it while I also show you everything that's inside my work bag. Shall we? People keep telling me to let it go, but I just can't. So here's what happened. First off, shitty headphones covered in hair dye.

Two months ago, a company booked my handyman job for a multi-day job. My wallet. They've reached out weeks in advance. but they needed some handyman on site, gave me all the dates they needed us. So I cleared our calendar, moved at their work, and made sure my guys were available and ready. I'm a woman. Day one, all good. My handyman shows up, does the work, and leaves.

AI conversation recorder. I'm recording you. Day two, he gets ready to go back to site. But when he gets there, they say, oh, we don't need you today. Yeah, but things like that, just, like, instead of just being like, oh, this is how I closed estimates today, blah, blah, then I actually am like, my goal. Like, for example, it's just making all the boring things. interesting. Everything we do every day is interesting to somebody if you frame it right. Because answering estimates is like, cool, I have 40 emails to answer. Not that interesting. But the minute I'm

like, every single one of these emails is like a certain dollar value. So how can I close $10,000 in four hours? That's so much more interesting. And then I'm like, cool, okay, now the whole story is how can I close $10,000 in four hours? And then I film myself calling all the estimates back. And then you hear people being like, great, let's book it in and I'm like, oh. So let's talk about like camera angles because I think you're pretty good at that. Like how, what is like the logistics of that look like? Because most of these guys don't have a full camera crew. They don't have like the ability to just like be on camera all day. Like what pointers do you give to a guy like Rob? Um, a first thing I would say is just start filming with your phone. Like, like without even trying to think through like camera

angles or anything like that like just start filming yourself what does that look like put it on a tripod i honestly like the biggest thing i do is i have my phone and i i i always use my phone to film i don't use anything else and i'll do like the 0.5 mode on my phone just so it's a little bit wider and then i'll just flip it backwards and film whatever i'm doing i started doing that just to get comfortable filming myself and being on camera so you're always you're always using the back camera always using the back camera 0.5 get the wide get the wide you're going to put it prop it up on whatever Sometimes I'll prop it up and just film whatever I'm doing. It just, the whole thing of me starting social media just started with me filming everything

that I was doing. And then I clipped it all together later and then usually like spoke over it because that was like the most comfortable way I feel like I could create at the time. Voiceovers. And then eventually I ended up getting more into like filming myself and then speaking in the moment about the thing that I was doing. But I always feel like the things that you see every day, people don't see every day. So getting creative about the way that you show your environment.

Like the fact that I like like getting a little more creative that if I don't know if we're sitting here in the cameras right here in front of me This angle is probably pretty like natural or normal to somebody else But if I put the camera like on the ceiling and I was like looking up being like oh hey like It's so much more visually captivating because you wouldn't expect to see me from that angle but you would expect to see me from this angle right here So it's like just trying to frame it editing this well okay it was me in the beginning and then I ended up getting an editor because I would spend like four hours a night editing because there was a time that I was posting every single day and then so I had like...

Four hours, yeah, shoot me in the face. It's a lot. It's a lot because I would work the whole day and then, you know, spend four hours editing, like falling asleep while I'm editing. And then eventually I got to a point where I was like, okay, like I can so buy back all this time because I also will own I'm not even the best in editing. Like someone can do this better than me.

So now I have an editor. And he, now it's like half and half like all cut things together and edit things together but then he'll like add on like all of the things on top like i'll add i'll cut all the clips together the way i want them cut together purely because i know like my personality or humor or like random like while i'm filming i'll like think like i gotta keep that in like i got to keep that in but i don't want to add all the text i don't want to add all the photos so then he'll like go and clean everything out for me add music he has a playlist i created that he can just pull songs from it so don't So you only use the same songs over and over again? Pretty much, but the playlist has like 2,000 songs. Oh, wow. So, yeah. It's basically like, well, my goal wasn't to like use a bunch of like Instagram,

um, audios that are like viral or anything like that. But my goal was to create a playlist of all the music I actually just love. And then so as you follow me, like even though you don't know it, like you're listening to my playlist, like that's what I would normally listen to. Yep. Because my goal wasn't really, it was just to figure out all the small things of how I can build

a brand around me that people just start to know me really well. Versus like you can know I was running a handyband company, sure. But yesterday I posted that I was drinking an energy drink and I got so many people swiping up being like, no more black coffee? Why aren't you drinking black coffee anymore? And I'm like, it's crazy, guys. It's just one day. It's just one day.

But it's insane because it was a secret goal that I always had. Like there are little things that I do that people don't know that I do, but I do it on purpose because there is one day a, like a dream of mine that like isn't really a dream, but like is a dream is to own a coffee company at some point in my life. Who knows when that is? I just love coffee. Probably pardon. I don't know. And so I'm like, I'm going to post that I drink black coffee every day because one day a coffee company will come to me because I've posted about coffee so much in my life. And they're going to say, hey, we want to do a brand deal. Exactly. And I have a coffee company shipping me coffee as we speak because they were like,

you drink so much black coffee. We would love for you to try our coffee. And I was like, so sick. Or I wear like chunky rings every day, which is like I love wearing them, but also... You hope. You hope that one day someone's like, hey, what about this? I wear converse every single day. And it's not like I'm doing it for the sake of like what it brings me, but it's actually just a really core part of who I am. And the more I showcase that, the more people actually will get to know me.

And then they notice like, oh, you're a lot more dressed up today because usually every day I'm in a hoodie. Like every single day I'm pretty much in a hoodie. So it's like those little things, people just start to build patterns around around who you are. Love it. Love it. So going back to Rob, so let's, let's, let's, no, you're good. You started talking about it like some of the things maybe you would document with Rob, like give me, give me one video right now that you would do for Rob, start to end. How would you, how would you do it? How would you film it? What edits would you put in place? The first thing, if it's for the electrical company.

Yep. Well, his main goal is he wants exposure about electrical company that, potential customers, they go in, they see Rob like, man, this is a guy that I like. And I want to do business with him over the other, because here's the thing that I do know. In the trades, we are in a commodities-based business, right? There's not really a difference in wire. There's not a difference in plugs. There's not a difference in lights, fixtures, anything like that. So at the end of the day, people are willing to pay more for people that they like.

Yeah. Right. And obviously the experience and everything else. But the main thing that is a big separator in the space is if they see someone that they gravitate to. Yeah. So how are you going to pitch Rob in a light that is really going to make people love him but also want to get their electrical services? Does Rob have kids? Rob has no kids.

Okay. Well, has a wife. Rob has a girlfriend. Okay. I've been strongly encouraging him to get engaged. There you go. Get engaged, drop. The first thing that I would think of is that like sometimes when you speak about yourself, like,

Rob loves the Chicago Bears. Okay. Stunning. Sometimes when you speak about yourself, it's a little hard to like, I don't know, like I have a hard time like owning like, I don't know, who I am or personality traits or like I'll always just be like, oh, it's fine. Like I don't know. But it's so much easier to hype somebody else up that I feel like if he filmed like

a day in his life of like being an electrician. running an electrician company, but had like his girlfriend, soon to be wife, girlfriend, like be the person who voiced over, but she doesn't know anything about electrical could be really good for like couples. Like people love watching like other people support each other that I could imagine like he feels his day. Here's my boyfriend Rob. Yeah. And then or like I can imagine also like the text on the screen being something like my day is an electrician from my girlfriend who doesn't know anything about being an electrician. And then she's like, damn, he's just like messing around with the wires. I don't know. And then she's like, and then she's,

she's like, but look, lights work now. I mean, to be fair, you could totally story tell it, like, really well. But I could imagine, like, her voiceovering it. And then, like, it's just, like, instead of Rob pitching himself to you about why you should be an electrician, it's actually her being like, I'm, like, she also comes from the perspective of, like, if you're looking for that 20% female homeowner, she is the 20% female homeowner. And then she's speaking from her perspective, she's like, I don't know what electricians do, but they make that magic happen, the lights to go on. My plugs work. It's great. So then her almost speaking into that like it's like you're almost like making a joke out of the fact that she doesn't know what

electricians do all day but they do stuff and they make they make good money so I don't know if that's the first thing that I would think of but no I love it I think such a unique and and that can apply to many more people besides Rob like just yeah just such a such a unique perspective like frankly it's not things that I think about especially you know at 22 years old your generation is just so much better at the social media. Like, so much better. Like, I like to flaunt that, like, hey, I'm 42 and a half, I know what I'm talking about.

But, like, I mean, you guys were raised on it. Yeah. Like, I mean, I was raised on freaking dial-up internet. When I was, like, 12 years old. And, like, you know, got my first smartphone when I was, what, that 2007. So I was, how old was that in 2000? 23. I was 23 years old when I when the iPhone first came out but social media didn't exist for like another five years and like even then you know and so yeah it's such a unique, such a unique

perspective of like storytelling. What other advice would you would you give around building that personal brand? I would say like just it's so easy to look at other people and like think they have it like look at other people's content that does well and then be like cool I'm just going to make content exactly like them. But I think the most valuable thing that you can own is your personality. And like, no matter how much you study someone else, you're never going to graduate being them. So like, you should just study yourself. Like if your content isn't working, figure out what wasn't working and what was working and then just like keep trying things. Like keep putting in those reps. I still don't feel like I've put enough reps in a social media to even feel like I fully understand a lot of it. But I do

feel like I understand a lot of myself and what audience I've built and what they want to see. And like it's so easy to like think other people's content is like, I need to make it like them. I need to make it like them. When like if you get creative and like making, no one lives your life. Like you just got to be really creative in the life that you live. And so many of my friends do like the multi scene storytelling where they're always like moving or different locations or always doing stuff like that. And that style like really blew up because some of them are honestly they like they like really spearheaded that being. style of storytelling and they're really insane at doing it. And then all the other people tried doing it

and it didn't work the same. And it's like, yeah, because you're trying, you're studying being someone that you're never going to graduate being because they're going to go and find new styles and new ways and new things. And then you're always going to feel like you're in a game of catch up. So I feel like it's like just lean really hard into like what you know and what you want to do. But also just getting really like if you, if we're on a podcast, well, we are. But if we're on a podcast right now and I was making a video about being on a podcast. podcast with you. I wouldn't be like, like, how like me and, um, me and Chris are on a podcast. If anything, it would turn into being like, um, one of those like stories where you're like, I don't even

know how I got here. Like, how did I end up getting interviewed by you? That's insane. Or even making a joke being like, this guy has the top like comment on my story. And like, or being like, this guy six months ago told me to up my prices because blah, blah, blah. And then you turn it into like a much bigger story than what it actually is. Right. Yeah. I love that. Jade, thank you so much for Thank you so much. Your knowledge, it's going to be extremely valuable to all of our listeners. Love it. Thank you for having me.

Thank you for having me.