NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 13 Camp Nuggets, Crystal Baldy and Does Dak See a Future in Dallas?

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Mike Garafolo to get you caught up on news from training camps around the NFL including Jalen Hurts speaking about his relationship with head coach Nick Sirianni heading i...nto the new season , and we hear from Cowboys owner Jerry Jones regarding the situation unfolding in Dallas over Dak Prescott's contract . Followed by a round of speed news including hearing from Dak Prescott over his contract and Joe Burrow on his recovery from injury . Finally, we're joined by Brian Baldinger to debut our new segment, Crystal Baldy. Note: time codes approximateNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are not psychotic or psychic. I am Greg Rosenthal and Beyond Lucky today to be joined right off the top of the show with one of our insiders. It's our weekly insider segment, and this time it's Mike. Garifolo. Also will be joined later in the show. Very excited about this by Brian Baldinger. But before we do that, it's time to talk some news with Mike. He couldn't stand that Ian got the first two spots on NFL Daily. And he got his way. First two. Wow. Yeah. He was available. You know, he was just on, on TV that day and
Starting point is 00:00:49 available in there. That's what we do. He's very unselfish, Ian Rappapaport. You know, you guys have a very close, unique relationship. We're going to get to that a little bit later, but I wanted to start the show just doing the news with someone who covers it non-stop. So Randy hit the drop. Let's do it. News. A surprising bit of training camp, Mike, news on Thursday that Russell Wilson wasn't out there with his calf injury that no one knew about before Thursday.
Starting point is 00:01:26 So Justin Fields got out there. He's throwing pretty deep balls. to Van Jefferson. I haven't seen Van Jefferson come down with a deep ball in quite a while, so that was nice. He might be their number two receiver. They don't have much right there.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Any long-term concern, maybe not just this injury, but does it get any chance here that Justin Fields makes this a battle? I think so. Mike Tomman likes to play his guys in preseason games. He talks about it,
Starting point is 00:01:53 talked about it last year. You get into an environment like that, it gives you a chance to see how those environments are. It's a dress rehearsal. A lot of coaches are resting guys these days. Mike Tomlin very much old school in a lot of ways wants to play these guys. So Justin Fields is going to play.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Russell Wilson's going to play. And what does Justin Fields do when he plays? He does sensational things. Now, we can have a whole separate argument about how he plays the quarterback position. Does he need to win more from the pocket and with his arm and move defenses with his eyes and all that stuff? You can have that conversation. This conversation, which you said, will he make it close? because he's going to get in games and you know what he does even if he doesn't do it with his arms
Starting point is 00:02:33 even if he does it with his legs he makes sensational place he's going to do that in the preseason he's going to do that in training camp and there's going to be a little bit of a temptation for the wow factor that we saw on display when he was with the bears there may be people in the stands clamoring for him you may get some of those scenes you know what he's going to do so yeah i think he's going to make it a competition even though that uh russ is in what tomlin called the pole position if i recall correctly. Yeah, he's been getting all the first team reps and this is one of those stories that all the Steelers reporters push back so hard and they're there and they're talking to people and they're like, this is not a competition. Russ is out there kissing babies at minor league baseball
Starting point is 00:03:13 games and he's taking everything and he just is better. And I get all that. But then you get to training camp and the players see these two guys and you mentioned what's happening in the preseason. I just don't think there's that much of a gap between their quarterbacky type skills. they're very similar. Justin Fields is just not as good as Russell Wilson was at that age, but a much younger, faster version with a similar skill set
Starting point is 00:03:38 and you start off training camp with a calf injury. To me, it's a little bit of a concern. Another bit of a surprise, this has been a little under the radar. Patriots camp, starting with Drake May taking a lot of first team rep. So off-season long, Gerard Mayo,
Starting point is 00:03:53 puts Jacoby Brissette, says it's his job, he's the number one guy, and even said that to start camp, but did leave room. that, hey, it's a competition. If he outplayed him, then he would have a chance. The fact that on day one, they're already splitting up the reps between May and Brissette. As a May fan, I was like, okay, this is game on.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Now I feel like it's 50-50 at worst for me to get that job in week one. Yeah, I expected a much different split. And I saw guys out there in New England who were covering the Patriots saying it was pretty much 50-50, you know, counting the reps and, you know, the stats when you get in the training. camp i always find that funny but the stats told you how many passes these guys through and then there were a couple of tuck and runs from uh phil perry uh who covers the patriot's saying there were some tuck and runs from drake may as well so the numbers were pretty much even when it came to snap count i think that's the most important number in uh patriots training camp and you're right i think uh
Starting point is 00:04:48 it was certainly an indication that maybe that's more of a competition than we thought i you know i did hear some talk that drake may is needs a little seasoning and maybe needs to sit for a little I don't get that at all. And you saw a peek into what he was like in the meetings with the Giants Hard Knocks in the way that he was, I think they showed both Indianapolis at the Combine and when he was in the building as well. And you saw him breaking down things at the board and able to spit things back. That to me showed NFL rating this, you know, from a mental standpoint, you got to now take it
Starting point is 00:05:22 and do it on the field. But to me, I, you know, who was I talking to yesterday? I was talking to a Patriots fan yesterday about who their starting quarterback was going to be this year. And I said, I don't know who it'll be to start week one, but I can tell you it'll be Drake May at some point this season. I'm willing to say that. And I know the schedule is brutal to start the year. I mean, that's just what it is this year for the Patriots. The schedule is going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:05:43 He's got to play at some point. You are around this Eagles team a lot. And I was very interested in the Jalen Hertz, Nick Siriani dynamic through last year. and even into this off-season, sometimes when they were at Jalen Hertz especially, asked questions about it. He just gave strange sort of plain answers. When he had a chance to give Nick Siriani some love,
Starting point is 00:06:07 he didn't necessarily do it. He was asked about the reports about the relationship to start training camp. So we're going to listen to him in his opening press conference of camp. I think we're in a great place. You know, I think any time you have any frustration, anytime you have any adversity that you have to overcome. come, it's supposed to test you.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And I think it's a matter of being on the same page. You know, I think if we're on the same page, maybe we would accomplish the things we would have. And, you know, we didn't. But that's a learning experience. Hmm. A little bit of a... I mean, I like what he's saying now.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He knows they both need to be good to be successful. But he basically said we weren't on the same page previously. No. No. No, I think that's an admission of that right there. And it's certainly what we heard. And I extend it to, you know, the entire coaching staff, the entire offensive coaching staff, and the offensive coordinator, there was definitely, and Brandon Graham flat out said it, that their assistant coaches, I forget how he phrased it, but basically just weren't on the same page between the players and the coaches. So it extends beyond Jalen Hertz and Nick Siriani.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It extends to the entire coaching staff needing a reset and they made some changes and they certainly made changes at both coordinator spots. And that, to me, is the one that I'm most concerned about if I'm the Eagles. Not necessarily even Jalen Hertz to Nick Siriani, but Jalen Hurts to Kellynne Moore, who's supposedly coming in with fresh ideas with some skins on the wall as an offensive coordinator, a guy who's got experience. You know, I thought at times last year I would have questioned some of the things that they were trying to do, particularly in crunch time and some of those games with the Chargers, where they just didn't deliver.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So, but he's certainly got a great offensive mind and the ability to kind of make, defenses defend every blade, whatever, you know, the cliche you want to use on that one. But that's what he does. And he's good with spacing and he'll bring in some motions and some things that we didn't see from a stagnant offense last year. And if you're the Eagles, hopefully that kickstarts thing and you've got a better relationship between your coach and your play caller. I'm sorry, your quarterback can play caller. As a man who's follicly challenged, Mike, any annoyance that, you know, hurts who has a great hair line is covering it up there. I mean, he, you know, it's hard to not notice him in that tank top.
Starting point is 00:08:27 He's, he's an impressive-looking young man. Yeah. He's handsome. I'm willing to say it. I'm just saying, why cover that thing up? You're that young. I know, I know the hat looks good, but, you know. You know, if you've got hair, you've got flexibility, right?
Starting point is 00:08:45 If you're like me, you've only got one pitch, and it's not even a fastball. It's an e-fist pitch. The Cowboys, being. thrown some tough pitches, I would say, at their press conference. Usually, I've been in Oxnard for that opening press conference. It's like the state of the union. Everything's great. Everything's exciting.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Although there have been holdouts over the years. And this time, they faced a lot of tough questions. One was to Jerry Jones, and he was asked if he thought this is going to be Dak Prescott's last year as a member of the Cowboys. So let's listen to that. I don't think so. Just to be very specific, I do not think that this will be his last year with the Cowboys at all. The, is there, am I being psychotic relative to my mirror?
Starting point is 00:09:39 No. No. In my life, I've had a lot of things I wanted that I couldn't get because I couldn't afford it. Come on. Jerry Jones is saying, there's a lot of things in his life he couldn't afford that means there was no price that's what he wanted yeah like a super bowl that that's what he can't afford like yeah come on uh join join the rest of us not not not empathetic there and i they used some funny numbers too they were like throwing out oh it could be 75% like like what are you talking about between between micah cd lamb and deck prescott it would not be nearly that much i mean they're just throwing out some crazy things. What did you take away from this press conference? Another one that Stephen Jones threw
Starting point is 00:10:27 out there in this, just for context, was that both Michael Parsons and C.D. Lam, C.D. Lam is the one that's holding out. Want to be the highest paid non-quarterback in the NFL. Yeah. And I don't blame CD Lamb for that, but I would say that C.D. Lam, Justin Jefferson set that number at 35. And I felt like it was almost time for C.D. Lamb and Jemar Chase to go, okay, we'll just, we'll equal that and we're done, right? Like everybody right there at that happy number of 35, but of course they want to beat the other guy and see if they can get above that and all. So I get that part of it. They do have some work to do on that one for sure. They've got work to do on Parsons. Parsons seems like it's not as pressing as CD Lamb and certainly holding out creates that. You, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:10 you've got the mandatory fines that can be forgiven now if you're on your rookie deal, which CD Lamb is. so some players willing to do you do you believe him that it'll be it won't be the last year that one to me should be the most pressing yeah i don't well it's it's it's not pressing in the sense that you could play out this deal and then try to do something in the spring and does jack prescott want to be the quarterback of the cowboys that that might be the question that we're asking in the spring right and maybe now we're asking because if he did you know maybe he wants to get something done but in the back of his mind he has to have a plan and maybe the plan is i just want to play out the season to maximize my leverage in these contract negotiations, you know, the old bet on
Starting point is 00:11:50 yourself. He's not betting on anything. He's got all that money, 160 million plus what he made before that in his pocket. It's not a bet. I mean, that's the safest bet that you could possibly make. So I just think with deck, it's going to have to be a, am I comfortable here? Do I want to continue being here type of thing? It's not a money thing, I don't think. Because in the end, yeah, and do the cowboys want to continue that? Are they just giving us lip service when they say, you know, that they want to get this thing done and they feel like it's not going to be his last year with the Cowboys. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And lip service is a good way to put it. Definitely, you know, following some Cowboys reporters and fans, like when they see this press conference, they're not buying everything that is coming out. And wow, it's a great way to put it. Does DAC want to be there? There could be some interesting spots next year.
Starting point is 00:12:37 We'll see Miami. Maybe LA even. Who knows? Well, now you're dabbling into stuff we can't predict, right? right now. Yes. But he knows that things pop up every year. So there will be good opportunities for him to make a ridiculous amount of money
Starting point is 00:12:52 if he wanted to leave Dallas. And I will get you out of here, Mike, by bringing up something I brought up to your friend, Ian, you know, when he was on the show, how, yeah, Joe Shane watching you guys on NFL Network just had a glorious, beaming smile on his face. Like, man, he really likes Mike Garifola. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see the laughter. joy on Joe Shane's face and I I mentioned it on a on a tweet last week and you had what I guess was a regrettable response I will quote it here and it was you responding to to me and you said what can
Starting point is 00:13:30 I say busting on rap sheet is something we can all get behind well apparently not phrasing phrasing phrasing and you know when you don't think like a kid and you're You're outside of that demo. Never stop thinking like a kid then. Well, yeah, but sometimes you're not talking like a kid, right? And apparently that phrasing can mean something else. So I appreciate you, Mike, not just for coming on today, but you got 213 retweets. That was viewed hundreds of thousands of times.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You helped promote NFL daily. That was your way of doing it. 35 bookmarks really cracked me up, that there were 35 people that, said, I want to save this for later. You know, I'm not a bookmark guy, but that's interesting. Like, what would they want to, now, the, the, the, uh, make it a quote, right, which I don't know to handle it, make a quote. So a bunch of people said, make it a quote.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And for maybe even two days, I kept getting the, I finally had to mute that account because it was like, sending you back to me, like, look at this, you moron. I'm going to, how many people want to put this on a, on a board? But I got one from, uh, Ian. that I save that I probably won't even mention here, but I'll send it to you. He had a typo in the spring. And so I probably should, I tell him I was going to make it my Twitter header.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Just say it and we'll beep it out if it's really that bad. Come on. I mean, he was trying to say, he, I'll put it to you this way. He was trying to say that everyone loves the quarterback that was drafted by the Falcons eighth overall. I got you. The phone decided to take it in another direction, which, which is interesting on its own right, that that was the out of correct for Ian. I love it. I appreciate you. And look,
Starting point is 00:15:29 we'll never be busted on you, Mike. Thank you for your time. Thank you. All right, thanks to Mike Garifolo. I wanted to get to 14 more takeaways as quick as we can before I get to Brian Baldinger, putting Randy Chavez, our great producer, up on the screen now to keep me company. And, yeah, Dak Prescott wanted to get his response to what Jerry Jones said early in the show about whether Dak's going to be on the team next year. At the end of the day, it's a business. And, you know, I'm going to say, I want to be here. But, you know, and you look up, all the great quarterbacks I watch.
Starting point is 00:16:10 played for other teams. So my point in saying that is that that's not something to fear. That may be a reality for me one day, may not be my decisions. Woo-hoo. That pause before he then said, I'm going to say it. That said a lot. That said a lot to me. I think Mike Garifola is on the right track. Does Dak want to be there next year? That is a fascinating story. A couple other contract things. Jamar Chase has quietly not been practicing. It's basically a holden, even though the Bengals are protecting him and saying it's not necessarily. a holden. He has a plan. It's not a huge deal. He's not practicing. Tuaunga also not practicing. Didn't do anything on Thursday. Practice just doesn't look the same when
Starting point is 00:16:51 Skyler Thompson is splitting the reps with Mike White. So something to watch there. Joe Burrow has been on fire at Bengals Camp. That's my third note here. And it's one of those stories that you hear enough people say how his arm looks better and how he really looks different that I am starting to believe it. Let's listen to Joe Burrow. Yeah, I was happy with today. You know, still feeling it out. You know, still have some throws where it's like, well, what did that look like? Usually goes where I want it to, but sometimes it doesn't spin the way I want it to.
Starting point is 00:17:22 So we're still working through that. But I feel really good about where I'm at. I feel like I kind of figured something out towards the end of the practice there in individuals. So I'm looking forward to exploring that a little more. I love that looking forward to exploring it more. Randy, this is a guy who's accomplished a lot, but he's talking about a, early training camp practice where he thinks he found something late in practice and he's going to work on his craft more that's like it's like you with your editing skills you with trying to house
Starting point is 00:17:49 train your cats you never give up never give up that's the key consistency is always the most important thing and i'm serious that the hype that's going around with burrow that his army was never really healthy last year that he's had a strong start this is maybe the training camp we've we've always been looking for for him to have a fully healthy august in in july and i'm getting excited about it. All right, let's play the music now, Randy. And I'm going to try to roll through these final 10 points. Number four, the bills are going with five receivers with Josh Allen for the most part.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Keon Coleman's at the X. Khalil Shakira's inside. Curtis Samuel is doing a lot. And then you have MVS and Mack Hollins. I think they're going to play two tight ends a lot, but those are their guys. Look, Shakir might be their number one in the end if it's not one of the tight ends. I also want to shout out to Mack Hollins. Josh Allen said, I love Mack.
Starting point is 00:18:39 He's one of the all-time greats. This dude just must be one of the best dudes in the world. Every team Matt Collins is on. He's like a great clubhouse guy, Randy. He's like you. Everyone just talks about him. He's just like, I love Matt Collins. He's doing something right.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I like to wear his shoes, though. I heard he's a big, like, no shoe guy. He is kind of an odd bird that way. Another Bill's note that this is my next one. DeMarne Hamlin started training camp with the starters. I know people were mad he didn't get that comeback player of the year award last year. If he actually is starting this year and makes a big impact, we'll see. They're testing that out.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Cole Bishop, the rookie, Mike Edwards will also get looks. But DeMarhamlin practicing. Matt Milano also practicing fully coming off the torn ACL for the bills. That's big news. Von Miller says he should have never played last year, but he supposedly looks better at him. We'll see, but it's early promising signs. He's getting some first team reps that he's a little more recovered from that torn ACL.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Speaking of which, some downer news, my next note, two big injuries. torn ACLs, season enders, Mackay Blackman, the good second year cornerback for the Vikings, and then Daryon Kendrick, a third year cornerback for the Rams. You hate to see that. The Vikings were already very thin at the position.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I think Blackman was going to start. They are a team, to me, that could really pick someone up, Stefan Gilmore, because they need help. I don't think the Rams are going to do that. I wouldn't say Kendrick, who started a lot in the last two years,
Starting point is 00:20:05 was in their top three. It's probably Darius Williams, Tradavius White, Kobe Durant, ahead of Kendrick anyways, but you still feel for a young player like that. The Seahawks gave a surprising deal to Julie and love their safety. I don't know if they're just really into the top 100 list or something. Three years, $36 million. Was this necessary?
Starting point is 00:20:25 He was under contract. To me, it's assigned John Schneider, their GM, who brought Love in. He's got the juice right now. He's got as much juice and he's using it to sign his guys. Here's some guys, Randy, who's looking good at practices early. and then I'm buying it, that they're thinner, they're just fresher. Marlon Humphrey, cornerback of the Ravens. Rashad Bateman, the hype is real.
Starting point is 00:20:45 He's making plays play day after day. Devo Samuel, everyone says just looks a little sharper, a little thinner. And then Giovante Williams, I always say it's the second year for running backs after a torn ACL. And he's looking better for the Broncos. Sean Payton giving him some love. Some depth chart notes in Philadelphia I found interesting. This is my 10th note. Quinion Mitchell, the first round pick, fourth right now.
Starting point is 00:21:08 at best at outside cornerback on the depth chart behind keely wringo behind a zaya rogers and eagles fans would be like this is what they do they bring rookies along slowly i get it but those two players wringo and rogers supposedly had great off seasons before this and now they're using mitchell at the nickel position playing inside which i i think he could do it's a way to get him on the field cooper de jean also hurt right now so something to watch there also james bradbury is a backup safety there that's wild to me uh my next note is on the Same team at linebacker, Zach Bonn, actually ahead of Nikobi Dean at linebacker. So Saints fans out there, you know what I'm going to say, the Bonfire.
Starting point is 00:21:47 It's raging again. It could still happen. A couple final notes, 49ers rookie running back, Isaac Grendo, hamstring injury, first day at camp. One of those fantasy sleepers we watch with some freaky athleticism. That's never a good sign. It's also tough to know my next one, what to make of injury reports this time of year. But when you look at the Browns players who are sidelined, it's all they're better. players. A lot of them. Nick Chubb, Jedrick Wills, Jack Conklin. So there's your two safeties and then
Starting point is 00:22:14 Chubb. And then Dalvin Tomlinson is getting knee surgery and Greg Newsom. Their starting cornerback is now getting hamstring surgery and may not be ready for week one. If they're getting surgeries now, they were hoping to avoid it. And so that's bad news. Finally, last one and we get out of here, Chris Ballard, the GM of the Colts was asked, you know, to pump up some players and he really didn't want to. And then finally he said Jonathan Taylor will have a big year, that's where I'll stop. His words, that's where I'll stop too, at least before the break. If Ballard's saying that, Taylor might be one of those post-type all-stars we talked about with Patrick Dardy. Let's take a quick break and we'll be back on the other side, wrap up the
Starting point is 00:22:52 week with Brian Ballton. I am so excited to be wrapping up week on NFL. Daily with one of the most respected. Let's face it, best looking, best lives in the entire game. Brian Baldinger coming straight off a plane from Italy. Your Instagram, Baldi, was all pro elite. I apologize for the come down that is coming out to a computer with me just days after you get off that plane.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah, well, it is, it is, you know, I mean, you're living the very best life for anybody that goes to Italy. You know, I would tell most people, Greg, like Rome is not the place to go in July. It just isn't. But you have to pay your respects. You can't go to Italy and not pay your respects at the altar of St. Peters or, you know, pick a location, the Coliseum. So, you know, we did that and ended up in Sardinia. And that's just a hard place to leave.
Starting point is 00:23:59 It's just, it's just the quality of life is just that good. And now we're going to be just talking offensive lines. But yeah, check out Baldi on Instagram. I mean, I know you were in Rome a little bit, but you were also in the water. Wherever Baldi goes, the water is not far away. I actually want to bring up something that was on your Instagram earlier in this off season. And I'm going to do it. I'm surprising you here, Baldy, by setting up a brand new segment here on NFL Daily.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Will we ever get you back again to do it? I don't know, but we're going to do it one time. And the segment is called Crystal Baldy. And it's based on an astoundingly good prediction you made before the draft. So we're going to have our listeners listen to something. said before the draft. This is Baldy's analysis from the pool just got done my morning to swim. I know they signed Kirk Cousins to a big deal.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And Kirk Cousins can be fine. I feel Atlanta is in the market for a quarterback. Every mock draft I look at, Atlanta's going defense. I feel like the Atlanta Falcons are in the market for a quarterback. This is the year to do it. They got Kirk Cousins there. Nobody they draft has to play right away. they've got a caretaker, maybe more than a caretaker.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But I feel like the Atlanta Falcons are shopping, and they're going to be shopping for a quarterback. And that's what this morning's analysis is all about. Let's shake it up. I feel like the Falcons are going forward. With the 8th, 6th in the 2024 NFL draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Michael Pettick Jr. Well, there it is.
Starting point is 00:25:35 That is the first surprise of the NFL draft to say the least. There it was Baldi. I heard all the draft analysts after that. No one saw this coming. You know who saw coming? Crystal Baldi from the pool. You're doing better work at the pool than people are doing in the lab. You know, it's interesting, Gray.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I met Michael Pennix, Jr. and his agent at the Super Bowl this year. And I'd watch the championship game, and I'd watch the game against Texas. And I'd watched them. I didn't really study him yet. And then the more I studied him, the more I liked him. And then I worked for the Falcons. I did their preseason games for when Mike Smith first got there. And, you know, Matt Ryan was drafted.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And I just remember, and I've known Arthur Blank for a long time. And the only time, this is not any offense to anybody else. But the only times the Falcons have ever been relevant in recent history is when Michael Vic was there and Matt Ryan was there. Now, maybe Kirk Cousins changed that. But I just felt like, okay, I know they gave Kirk a bunch of mine, but I knew once they saw and met Michael Pennix Jr. that they were going to fall in love with the kid, like the person, the man, the competitor, and they just have to get past the medical, whatnot.
Starting point is 00:27:00 But I don't know. It just hit me that day that this is not going to. to surprise me. It might surprise everybody else, but it wasn't going to surprise me. I mean, I wish I had seen that at the time, because it did. I absolutely did not hear anyone else say that. Before we get to what's going to be your crystal ball, the prediction here, and you're one for one. You hit a thousand. You're Shohei Otani hitting a 470 feet right now. You got a lot to live up to. I am curious, because Kirk Cousins, you know, they started training camp in Atlanta today while we're on the topic. And they said he'll be a little limited, maybe in some aspects in training camp coming off
Starting point is 00:27:32 a torn Achilles, but he's clear to be on the field. You watch Pennix a lot. I guess I'm curious how you think that is going to go this year between Cousins and Pennix. Not that it's an open competition, just how you think it could shake out. Well, you know, regardless of what gets reported, Greg, like, you know, there's a report,
Starting point is 00:27:52 and then there's the players that see a player play every day. Like, I'd be surprised if the defensive backs in Atlanta, you know, and they've got a lot of really, you know, good players back to AJ Terrell. Like, they're going to see Michael Penning's arm. The receivers are going to see what he's like, whether he's taking first-team reps or not. They're all going to see, I think, what I've seen, and I think what the upper crust of the brass of the Atlanta Falconsol, they're going to see a really talented arm. And, well, Kirk Cousins is an elite decision-maker.
Starting point is 00:28:25 He's been a proven, you know, guy that can play at a high level. I think that they're going to see the talent that Michael Pennix is. And the thing that, I remember I taught, I had him on a podcast, Greg. So, you know, he had like, and I was, you know, we were getting ready for the Combine and some private workouts or whatnot. I said, so are you going to run like in the low four-sixes? Are you going to run in the high four-fives?
Starting point is 00:28:52 And he just scoffed that. And he goes, I'm in the four-fours. And like, we didn't see him run a lot, you know. And but he's got. not, you know, like Anthony Richardson type speed. Like, he might be the second or third, I mean, I don't know what Lamar is or what Kyler is, but he's going to be
Starting point is 00:29:07 not very far from those guys when he has to take off and salvage a play. And that's something, you know, that Kirk's never going to have to do. And he, you know, fortunately, he built his career around just being able to make the right reads and getting the ball out quick. That is fascinating. Because, yeah, I haven't really thought about how that's different. And look,
Starting point is 00:29:23 he doesn't have the wiggle of some of those top guys. Maybe he's closer to like a Daniel Jones where if he has a seam, he can go hit it. You're right. But I think that's fascinating because I always say Kirk Cousins is not quite the guy people think he is in the sense that he's not always the number 12 quarterback in league or wherever you want to slot him. He is extremely streaky. He has five to six games in every season where he looks like an MVP candidate, but he also has bad streaks too. He can be up and down. So he wants to avoid some of those bad streaks to start the year coming off at
Starting point is 00:29:52 Tor and Achilles. All right, enough on the Falcons. I do want to get to what's your Crystal Baldi prediction for NFL Daily that we're going to play back to you next time you come on if you ever do, you know, graces with your presence again, Baldy. Well, Greg, I will definitely come back. If invited, I will come back. I know this is not going to make any sense to anybody. But I just feel like it's the history of the jets say there's no way, just the history of the Jets. They're going to screw it up.
Starting point is 00:30:23 That's their history. Hassan Reddick, I mean, he's not can't. Like, how do you not get that deal done the day of the draft? Anyways, I feel like this is a talented team, a really talented defense, really deep. The offensive line is all predicated upon how healthy they stay, and that's not going to be an easy thing to predict with their history of, you know, Tyron Smith and even Morgan Moses last year. And Aaron Rogers with his four snaps last year. I feel like the Jets are going to deliver. That's why they're on the front.
Starting point is 00:30:59 That's why they're going to be, that's why they are front-loaded on primetime games just to see, and then maybe they can backload it if they do get streaky and get hot and play to their talent level. I mean, they won seven games last year somehow with the quarterback play that was just dreadful. Just dreadful. And then the defense collapsed at the end because they just, you can't win games to be able to score points.
Starting point is 00:31:24 they couldn't score any points. I think with Brice and Garrett and Michael Williams and what they have offensively, they should be good and they should be very good defense. This has never played with the lead, Greg, ever. So in recent history, you give this defense, give sauce and DJ and give this pass rush a lead in the fourth quarter,
Starting point is 00:31:46 those jet fans aren't going to know what to do at MetLife Stadium. So you're liking the over, which is nine and a half wins, I know we're not doing over-unders here, but you are feeling big. I like him over. Now, obviously, if something happens to Aaron, probably going to fall apart. I mean, nothing against Rod Taylor,
Starting point is 00:32:03 but it's probably not going to go if he misses any amount of time or if their left tackle falls down, but they drafted a left tackle to be his replacement. I mean, I feel like they've got better depth up front on the offense line from any point that since Joe Douglas has been there and Robert Sal has been there, I think they got better depth if something does happen. happened on one of their marquee starters.
Starting point is 00:32:26 So I feel like they're in better shape to protect Aaron than they have. Bullish. Bullish on the Jets. I got to say, you know, the videos are now out from Aaron Rogers' first practice. Literally the first throw of training camp was 40 yards down the field. I forget who it was too. Might have been out on the lizard. Probably Jared Wilson.
Starting point is 00:32:45 It was a dime. And I'm thinking, okay, I guess I spent all offseason doubting the Achilles because I don't know, man, a 40-year-old coming off in Achilles. and we'll see, but that got me back on board of like, okay, this, I'm with you. I think they're going to make the playoffs. I think the bills are still a lot to deal with, but I think those two teams are going to be really good. Well, I'm sure that Aaron Rogers throw that made it social media, I haven't seen it yet.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I mean, they love those slow motion NFL films throw. And it looks like, you know, the spiral is super tight, and it takes eight seconds of, you know, your breath away and it lands perfectly on the fingertips of one of those. I'm sure that's the shot. But we saw that all off-season last year, and we all just got crushed, you know, four plays into that game against Buffalo. Yeah, he's going to have to get rid of the ball.
Starting point is 00:33:34 He's not 30 years old like he used to be in Green Bay where he would hold and kind of figure it out. He's going to have to get rid of the ball. But, man, they have so much talent. And I'm with you. I want to, you mentioned the Jets offensive line. With the time we have left with you, Baldy, I want to do a little offensive line talk.
Starting point is 00:33:49 obviously the most important thing that determines winning and losing that the average Joe's, I did throw myself in there, understand the least. And it's also very hard to predict. It's like a, it's like a bullpen. You know, you could have a great bullpen one year. You didn't know it was coming and suddenly you're going to the World Series. If you could have a great offensive line one year that you didn't see coming, suddenly it's going to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I'm going to throw out a few different groups and you can just tell me who you want to talk about. I'm going to start with the AFC contenders because to me, I still put the Ravens, Bengles, Chiefs, because of their quarterbacks because of what they've done the last four years in a tier above the rest. And a lot of changes in Baltimore with their offensive line. Bills, I think, have a nice continuity underrated.
Starting point is 00:34:33 The Bengals added a lot of size this year with Trent Brown and Marius Mims. And then the Chiefs, very good, except left tackles up for grabs. Just out of those four teams, which one is the most interesting to you in terms of their offensive line that they could make, either make or break their season.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Well, I mean, look, the Ravens lost three starters, okay? And so, you know, you lose, you know, you lose your Zeitler, you lose Moses, you lose your left guard, you know, to the Jets. That's a lot. But I've been saying this, and I sort of say it tongue in cheek. But, you know, the Ravens restock offensive linemen the way Walmart restock shells. I mean, that's what they do. I mean, Andrew Voorhees was drafted at a USC.
Starting point is 00:35:17 probably been a second or third round pick last year, but he tore his ACL. And so he basically redshirted last year. He's going to go play left guard for John Simpson. They drafted Rosengarten to play right tackle. Maybe he wins the job. Maybe he doesn't. Um, you know, Rosen representation. Hasn't been a lot of Rosen. I mean, Josh Rosen is gone, but Mike Rosenthal, former Vikings tackle representing, I mean, I represent. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. You know, the tribe is out there. You know, Rogers. So, you know, Ben Cleveland was drafted four years. years ago, you know, big countries there. They draft, you know, basically an all-pro center, you know, when they did draft, you know, Linderbaum. We'll see if Stanley stays healthy,
Starting point is 00:35:58 but, you know, they always have a guy like Patrick McCarrey. They can plug in and play anywhere. I feel like the Ravens are good, you know, and then obviously I think Derek Henry is going to make a difference. And they're well-coached, Alessandro, the offense line coach is very good. I feel like they're going to get back and run the ball like, the way they've always run the ball with Lamar. Okay, they always look better, too, at the end of the year, then the beginning and with new pieces. And, yeah, that's a sign of great coaching.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I saw they had 380-pound Daniel Fulele playing at guard. So I just, for my own interest, I hope that happens sometimes during the season. That would be fun. I'm going to throw out now another list of teams, who I think are candidates to be, like, sneaky good. Maybe go up to the top of the league of the offensive line. Maybe people aren't thinking about them as much. Tell me which one you like to be.
Starting point is 00:36:47 best. You mentioned the Jets, so let's not hit that again, but they have some potential. The Packers, the Colts, who have been good, the Chargers after drafting Joe All, and then the Falcons who have had nice continuity, maybe one of those teams you think could just really be elite and set up in elite offense. Packers, Colts, Chargers, Falcons. Well, I'm going to go Chargers. I mean, I think Joe Alt is going to, you know, he's going to be there. I saw Rassan Slater at O.L. Masterminds. Like, he's just, he just has elite ability since the day he stepped on the field. I mean, if you give the Chargers, book-end tackles, they've drafted a bunch of guys
Starting point is 00:37:26 over the last few years, Zion, you know, Johnson, different guys. Like, I just feel like the Chargers, because of their commitment to the run game, I think the commitment to the pistol formation, like, they're going to develop an offense line. I don't think Harbaal knows any other way to coach, but to start right where you're talking about right now and build this thing because it hasn't been very good they couldn't run the ball at all the last three years um and so i i feel like the commitment was there they could have gone a lot of different ways with that early first round pick they had and they went joe wold which made a ton of sense um i feel like he's i knew his dad really well um i know the player hardball tried to recruit him to go to michigan
Starting point is 00:38:09 he lost to notre dame in that battle he wasn't going to lose again i feel like this this could be a much did a very good offensive line. Offensive linemen are just built different. I'll get you out on this, Bali, I'll give you one last group of teams. The offensive line here that concerns you the most that could get in the way of this team
Starting point is 00:38:29 improving being where they want to be. I'll throw out the Seahawks, the Saints, the Commanders, and the Jags. Is there one team there that worries you a little bit going into the season, Seahawks, Saints, commanders, Jags? Well, the Saints have not been able to put, we don't know what's going on with Ryan Ramcheck.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I don't know if you have any updates. I mean, he's not playing this year and Dennis Allen hasn't ruled out that he could return in another year, but he's not playing this year. So, I mean, they're really, look, it did not work, you know, at all when they drafted a left tackle and Trevor Penning. Now, Trevor Penning is an elite athlete. He's not played well. They're trying to right tackle is the new thing. They're trying to. He came to O.L. Masterminds. He was there.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Met Trevor. I had not met him before. They had a new offense line coach. The way of doing things down there. John Benton's down there. You know, running offense. Kind of a, kind of like a Shanahan-style offense now being run in New Orleans, which might be helpful to him. But I think Fowaga is going to be a really good player.
Starting point is 00:39:36 We'll see. Sometimes it's growing pains there. But, you know, they're a group that have not been able to put together. Their offense has struggled. The running game has struggled. Derek Carr has taken a lot of hits. He played hurt a lot last year. They have not been able to put together a great line
Starting point is 00:39:52 the way Sean Payton did for a lot of years there in New Orleans. And so it's a concern because they're counting on these two young guys to man the corners and the edges in Penny and Fuaga. And one guy has struggled. Maybe it'll be better in a new system. And the other guy is going to be a rookie. And sometimes it takes a little bit of time to figure out this league. Yeah, coaching matters a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:14 we talked about Clint Kubiak coming in and that's their best hope because you said it for all the all the ways they miss Sean Payton and there are many with the quarterbacks and play callings like the offensive line play just went right down and and that's uh that's what it's all about it's guys in the trenches I mean someone should hire you one of these days but then you'd have to give up on this lifestyle I think you have a better off this way baldy lifestyle is going to win out every time Greg it's it's went out for the last 30 years it's going to continue to win out. I got to balance it up a little bit. I love it. Lifestyle winning out here. You make our lifestyle better here. And we're wrapping up the week with you, Baldi. So
Starting point is 00:40:55 let's hit the music. Appreciate everyone for listening this week. Yeah, I may be messed up my lifestyle committing to this daily show. Daily's different, but it's a lot of fun. And I'm really having fun with this show in training camp. So we're going to be back next week. We're going to visit a couple training camps. Until then, we'll see you on money. day.

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