NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2017 Draft Predictions

Episode Date: April 26, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling, & Gregg Rosenthal – discuss all the latest news from around the NFL including running back Adrian Peterson signing with the Saints, and the NFL reinstating Steelers wide receiver Martavis Bryant. Then the heroes make their predictions, on the eve of the Draft, about what they think could happen (OUTSIDE) in Philadelphia this weekend with a little game of “Go Get My Lunch”.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. The Around the NFL podcast has its swagger back. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am. joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal.

What's up, boys? Hey, Dan. Getting the band back together. Ah. Much thanks to Connie Fox and Patrick Claibon were sitting in while Mark and I were at our private retreat in the mountains. It's nice to see one of the world's great romances. you know, live in life again. We are.

Well, we actually didn't stay in a cabin together. We didn't even see each other. Yeah, I didn't see Dan for more than one second all weekend, so. I met you and Simone, you know, who was having a birthday. The romance is back on track, did you say? You're suggesting that it was not on track. Just trying to pivot out. Consistently on track.

Greg, very awkward in social settings at times. This is what we're talking about. When you say you don't know what we're talking about, that's kind of. I would say I'm comfortable. I just make other people feel awkward. I think you do a fine job in the post softball setting. Oh, that's good. Yeah.

We're two and oh, our softball team, by the way. Another thumping of a middling unit. So I'm very happy about the start of the season for the Shield. And that's something to be excited about, Mark. We'd love to get you at a game. I definitely intend to come. When is the next game? We are playing, I believe a week from Thursday, we're on the rare double by,

which could hurt our momentum a little bit, but, you know, nothing to get too upset about. Recharge the batteries. I will be there. Good, exciting. To observe. This is the round of the NFL podcast driven by Hyundai. And today's show is an important one because we are less than, damn it, I wanted to say less than 20. 24 hours away from the draft.

That is not accurate. So I have to say something less sexy, like we are less than 31 hours away from the 2017 NFL draft in Philadelphia, an event that will be held West outside. I take my duties as host very seriously, and I did want to. try to get a Philadelphia area meteorologist on the show. So I reached out to Connie Fox, who strangely didn't get back to me.

A little bit odd. She's in Philadelphia right now. Reached out to John Gonzalez, who also got, he did get back to me. Who's that? John Roland Gonzalez born March 12, 1977. His American sports writer was married to NFL media broadcaster Colleen Wolfe. John, whose a Pisces resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. John did not know any had one friend but took a job recently in D.C.

So no, no weather person to come on the show. So we have no idea. And in a way, it's more exciting. Yeah, that's the way to go. Yeah, the weatherman's never wrong. So why do we want to know that information? We want to be flying, blind, flying blind on this one. Very exciting.

But anyway, the draft is tomorrow. So you know what we're going to do. You know what it is. Go get my lunch The NFL draft edition And don't you miso phonyers Don't you dare Come at me

Or what's coming, Sid The orange You don't want the orange You don't want it The sound of someone eating an orange Is especially bad It is not pleasant You don't want it

Because the banana was bad Oh the banana was real bad But the orange can make ears bleed. That's all I'm saying. Send me one, I dare you. Send me one tweet. One of you, son of a bitch.

Send me one tweet before Thursday show, and you're getting the orange. I'm in their court. I cannot stand this sounds of people chewing various foods. And you take particular, that right there, you take particular joy in it, and it is a torture to some. I feel like eating a banana should be soundless.

is it though Sidney is it there's some sucking and some lip smacking That's going to be terrible Anyway so we will do

our Our props Our sandwich props whereby we each make predictions For the draft We go around the room A few times

And then we track those predictions With the help of course Of the great Nick Fortier Fortier Fortier Was that ever

Do we know for sure He confirmed to me that it's Nick Fortier. Oh, Nick Fortier. Kind of like Phil Plantier. Remember him, Greg? Oh, yeah, great batting stance on that left-handed slugger of the Red Sox. An all-time batting stance from Phil Planteer. But anyway, Nick Fortier at go-get-my-lunch.org tracks all all the standings for our predictions.

So we will make some for the draft. Very exciting. But before we do that, we're going to hit the news. So I don't know. Let's do it. Before the battle can be won on the field The war must be won on Draft Day Got about 10 hours

I'm going to do what's best for the team That of course One of Mark Sessler's favorite films of all time Draft Day starring Costner And they just put up some clips If you're if you're curious about the movie They just put up some clips On YouTube

Various clips from that film They just put them up? Yeah. You know that movie clips.com or something? And they actually, that's part of their job, they take different parts from movies and then just throw it up on YouTube. If you're a draft day fan,

and Mark, I know you are, go there and relive one of the great conquests of the Cleveland Brown's history, their fake 2014 draft with Kevin Costner's GM. Well, this is a tired bit. I don't think about this movie at all, and it's brought me nothing. but agitation from the three of you and others.

Well, if you want to relive how excited you were at the time, you can just Google, like I just did right now, draft day movie, Mark Sessler review. And you actually find the official draft day movie account, which includes the review from Mark Sessler, delivers on the draft day movie delivers on the great tension of the NFL draft while showing how human the entire process is. Full of heart from start to finish.

As I told you. As I told you. Full of heart from start. finish delivers on the great attention of the NFL draft while showing how human the entire process is. Let me tell you one thing. Mark Cessler, NFL.com. As I mentioned, I had multiple classes of wine and me when I texted that review. And I'm not going to take it back.

I did write it. I should not have ever done that, obviously. But Greg and Dan have now put themselves into a special little bucket in its called the revenge bucket, and it's going to be an incredible practical joke that I will enact on the two of you, but you will never know that it came from me. And it will not happen in the next 15 to 20 hours where, oh, that's a call back to the podcast when I took Mark to town on a movie review he did three and a half years ago. No, it may come eight months from now, 18 years from now, but it will be severe. Only West. As long as West doesn't slip up, only West.

survives. I mean, he already has. He was quoting you as well. I don't know how Wes got away. Wes came out of the theater calling it a solid B if I don't think. I do not distance myself from that movie at all. I think it's underrated. No, and I like because Dan and Mark actually wrote little known fact a review of the movie on the website. And that came up. I forgot about that. Widly known fact. Yeah, that came up when I just Googled it too. And it is funny how toned down it is in that. It's solid football fair for fans in need of a fix. So that's a little more tempered. was a go-by line. I was bringing it down a little bit. Mark was pumping it up. That's because there had already been occurrences. I believe on our website is like a background splash page where Dan Helly also got pulled into this. He and I had our quotes on the back of every NFL.com article and I thought I will never allow this to happen in my life ever again.

Remember Mark's last revenge bucket? No, what was it? We were all turned into cat lovers on Instagram. Oh, yeah. That was good, though. That's still, this will not have the feel good aura of that. Right. That's still my profile picture on Twitter. All right. Let's do some news, and we will start with, oh, my God, Adrian Peterson got a job, ladies and gentlemen. Congratulations, buddy. The New Orleans Saints and the veteran running back finalized a two-year deal that will pay Peterson $7 million.

The deal included $3.5 million guaranteed in 2017, and it's worth up to $8.25 million with incentives and escalators. This puts Peterson in a backfield with Mark Ingram, which on paper, Greg, looks like you do some damage. Do you like the move? I do. I think it makes sense for the Saints to add another offensive weapon. They're a team that likes to have multiple running backs.

Their backfield, despite Ingram being there, was very thin until this move. So I think they were going to add someone in the draft or in free agency. and to me you're going to get a motivated Adrian Peterson and I'm not too worried about who gets the snaps, who gets the carries. I think there's plenty to go around for Ingram and Peterson and that this is a team where he fits pretty well. They don't use the shotgun very much.

Among the bottom teams in the entire NFL in terms of using the shotgun, and I trust Sean Payton in terms of how he's going to use different offensive weapons, including Peterson. I think everybody's reading this situation wrong, and I think the NFL is reading Asian. featuring Peterson wrong. He should be the favorite for comeback player of the year honors. He's a freakish athlete. He can't be compared to any other 32 year old running back we've seen this century. He's better than them. He's more physically gifted than them. He's an exceptional

talent. And I don't, this idea that he's Tim Hightower, give me a break. Tim Hightower coming off a half a decade out of the game and had to bust his butt just to make the team. Peterson got a $2.5 million signing bonus. He's not going to be the backup to Mark Ingram. It's not. That's just not true. I mean, I think it doesn't matter whose backup, who started. They're going to split it. So they're going to both be factors. Peterson will likely not be on the field as much on passing downs.

But Ingram's never played more than 550 snaps in his life. Anyways, the Saints were at their best one. They had four guys in their backfield. Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory, you know, who am I thinking about back then? Darren Sproles. Pierre, you know, they would go three or four deep, and I think that's what they'll do. I think it's one of the more interesting landing spots, and they play the Vikings, which is fantastic. For me, it's like, I want to just make sure that Adrian Peterson, who seems totally motivated as a football player from wire to wire, that at this situation, they all talk about there's a clear role, there's going to be, it's great for the Saints.

But eight weeks, nine weeks in, if Adrian Peterson isn't happy with his role, if there's issues with Mark Ingram not being happy with their role, what happens there? Maybe it works out fine. And for me, it's a why not. If you can get Adrian Peterson, it came at a pretty low cost. You're the Saints. You've basically been a non-entity in the playoff picture for too many years at this point. Go for it. Why not?

It is amazing, again, how tough it is to be running back around 30 years of age. And Peterson's 32. This is a guy who's a legendary player, and he is earning $3.5 million average salary this season, putting him behind the likes of Frank Gore, no distance. respect, Greg. Theo Riddick, Bilal Powell, Ryan Matthews, he'll make less than Mark Ingram. So basically, at the end of the day, despite the fact that he has this legendary resume, despite the fact that he's already shown once that he can defy the odds when he came back from that knee injury and ran for 2,000 yards, he had to settle for journeyman type

money. And that could be an incentive for him as well, I would think. In his statement, I think it was telling that he was explained that he was going to have a role. He's not expecting to dominate carries. I'm sure he wants to beat out Mark Ingram because he's a competitor, but Ian Rappaportar NFL Network Insider pointed out, it was very

purposeful that he's making $250,000 less than Ingram. They didn't want to upset Ingram. They said if you're coming in, you're going to come in below Ingram who's been there for six years and has been our guy essentially in terms of between the tackles runner, and Peterson

accepted that. He signed the contract. Well, he did now. I want to see where we are in November with that. That's all. He also said I could tell Sean Payton did his due diligence on how I could contribute. And there's no way. You will never convince me that Adrian Peterson signed on with Sean Peyton and telling him you're going to be Mark Ingram's backup. No, I totally agree with that. John Payton told him, look, because this is how all backfields in the NFL work. Week to week, if you're running well, you're going to play.

And Adrian Peterson is confident enough that, of course, he looks at Mark Ingram and says, I'm more talented than him. I'm going to play. But Traveris Cadet will wind up getting 100 snaps. There's only 1,100 snaps all year. They're going to play Mark Ingram. And I think it's a great addition for a team that has a lot of weapons. They have a chance. I know we make fun of the Saints defense and they're seven and nine every single year. But if they can just be somewhat close to the middle of the pack on defense, they have a great young group of receivers as good as they've had really since they were in the Super Bowl, maybe even better than then, and they still have an effective quarterback.

They got a chance. It also opens up the fact that you – they were better last year. You have your backfield wrapped up. They want to go defense heavy in the draft. They have to be better. They were better last year. They just have to be even better than that. Well, they're doing what the Cowboys do.

Run the ball, hide your defense. Adrian Peterson signed. And now Marshawn Lynch looks like this is squared away as well. He should become an official member of the Oakland Raiders on Wednesday. uh lynch's representatives and the raiders have agreed to terms on a contract and the team has hashed out the details of a trade for lynch's rights with the seahawks multiple sources and firm the negotiations uh according to mike garifolo and ian rapaport the draft compensation will be a swap of late round picks in 2018 Seattle gets Oakland's fifth round pick in exchange for Seattle's sixth round pick according to a source and now the only thing left is for the five-time Pro Bowl back to take a physical with the Raiders. And if that checks out, this saga, Mark, is in the books. And Marshaun Lynch joins the Raiders and an offense that has a chance to be the AFC's best.

Yes, it does. I think it boils down to this elongated saga when this gets going. What kind of player is Marshaun Lynch? I'm of the mindset that, you know, we know who he is. The break, the year-long break, probably got his body back in shape. he has a chance to, like in the last situation with Adrian Peterson, they have other good running backs. I like Jail and Rashard.

But if he's going to be the Marshaun Lynch of old, he's going to have a carved out big role in that offense, it just as a matter of how durable he is, where he is physically. He didn't look quite the same as last full season. He wasn't healthy. He's going to be running behind a much better offensive line. But if I had to choose which of these two running backs, I'd feel more confident, it would be Adrian Peterson.

but yeah i don't know if we have to choose one or the other i feel like they'll both exceed expectations because expectations for 30 year old running backs are so low and both guys have fresh legs both guys should be on top five NFL offenses which is kind of interesting that everybody pooh-poo's the idea of powerbacks in 2017 especially aging powerbacks and two of the best offenses want them i think lynch to me is the bigger risk in terms of bringing him on board to an offense and hoping that he becomes an important part of it, just because he was at a football for a year. The last time we saw him, he wasn't at his best.

He is, let's be honest here. I mean, this is a guy he's going to be playing in Oakland. There could be some distractions for him, a guy that is tied in so tightly with that community. You don't know if Marshall and Lynch is going to be the same focus type of professional athlete he was when we last saw him. So I think there is some risk there, whereas Peterson to me seems like a guy that has you have less to worry about.

But Peterson was essentially out of football last year, too, with another major injury. I mean, it's fair. There are risk with both, but I think we see this as reliable players who aren't coming back to make money. And they're coming back to make a statement. And we get to watch them. I mean, they're going to make them more entertaining when they're on TV. By the time people listen to this, Lynch will probably have passed his physical, and this news will be official.

And he did send out a tweet while we were up here. which basically confirmed it saying, yes, Lod, 12th man, I'm thankful, but shit just got real. I had hell of fun in Seattle, but I'm really, really, I'm really from Oakland, though, like really, really, really from Oakland, though. Town business, breath on me. Can someone decipher that and translate it to me in English? Oh, how dare you.

I think he's excited. I think it says I'm excited to play for my hometown Raiders. We like these Raiders this year, is that right? Well, he's thanking God. And also the 12th man, which is the Seattle Seahawks Sandys. He's thinking something called a laud, L-A-W-D. That's Jesus. And then he says, all this speculation, will it or won't it happen?

Oh, no. There's something about a female deer in here twice. And, Wes, I'm trying to, I'm trying to give you the information you asked for. But despite my love of playing for the Seahawks, I am an Oakland guy. That's where I'm from. Those are my people. And I'm really excited to represent my seat. city this is about Oakland and about me and joining back up with the Oakland people what about the

last line which is a purposeful misspelling of business breath i don't that one town business breath on me that one i'm not with you i don't know it's not cool to spell correctly that's what i get out of this next on four white guys we discussed the social implication of the new kendrick lamar album i don't know why like wanting grammar to be correct is or wanting communication to be correct has to be a white guy. This is on Wes's radar. Oh, wow. When is it like you need street cred just to say things in a certain way?

Just use the communication correctly, please. So we can tell what you're saying. Well, the language is always shifting. The people that were 30 years older than us laughed at the way that we communicated and how we did it. And even in our newsroom, the language has shifted in the last five, six years. We've been there drastically. So I just see it as more of that.

Look, say what you want, but there's a way to write. Language is shifting one way. for speaking and another way for writing. You have to be able to communicate. I'm with you. I just see you and I as like standing there as this title wave is like basically swallowing us up and we're, you know, that missive is, is quiet and going away. Let's just move on. Martavis Brian is conditionally reinstated by the NFL, the team, that team being

the Pittsburgh Steelers announced Tuesday. Bryant missed the entirety of the 2016 season for multiple violations of the league's policy against the substances of abuse. Ryan is going to, obviously, you have to walk the straight and narrow path here to stay off the league's radar. But if he does that and if he gets back the trust of Ben Rafflesberger,

who seemed very miffed about the way things played out last year, West, the Steelers. And we were just talking about the Raiders could have the best offense. The Steelers, my goodness. this offense could be close to unstoppable. Well, spoiler alert, I'm going to have a post-draft banger on the best offenses in the NFL. The three teams we've talked about so far will all be in the top five, the Saints, the Raiders, and the Steelers.

If you compare the Raiders, everyone's talking about them to the Steelers, I take the Steelers at every position. Every position. I bet the Patriots are in that top five, too. Yes, they will be. I think this is a potentially bigger deal. Every position, even the offensive line? Even the offensive line. I would take the Steelers at every position.

And we saw in 2015, the second half of the season especially when the Steelers were doing amazing things, Antonio Brown and Martavis Bryant were the best by far receiving duo in the NFL. I think this is potentially a bigger deal than the last two players we just talked about. He's not a bigger name. More people don't know about Martavis, Brian, but him plugging him back into Pittsburgh's offense could do more than Lynch or Adrian Peterson either of those two other teams. I said on Twitter I think this was

you know that could be the biggest offseason addition any team made then James Palmer pointed out what about JJ Y and I thought all right James Palmer on offense you know you do a great job you do a great job covering all the teams you've got great hair

why do you got to poke holes immediately in my point with a better point because I guess JJ Watt would be technically there's something going on with you and James Palmer Twitter is about interaction in debate it's not a i'm in a silo my opinion just beams out over the land he made a fair he made a fair point j wad is great but brian

this seemed to anger you that's that's the only thing it's like if he made a good point why would it just be like oh good point jp let's move on with our day well it's a bit plus this guy he's got enough he's got enough going on in his life you know great great at his job yeah he was called the brother with the great hair by willie mcinnis on live air which you know everyone wants he has great hair

It feels like sort of action figurey military hair. Like it's perfect. It's absolutely perfect. I got you with that. That's a good description. All right. Hair respects hair. The only thing I'll say about James's hair.

The only thing I'm going to say about it, it's a little bit too perfect. Must it up a little bit. I'm sure he does out of town on a Saturday night. More suspension talk. Darrell Washington. Remember that guy? I barely do. But the NFL on Tuesday notified the Cardinals

linebacker that he has been reinstated on a conditional basis. Washington has been suspended without pay since May of 2014. Yes, folks, almost three years for violating the league's policy and program for substances of abuse. His band was tied to marijuana, which if it was just weed, the guy was out of football for three years of smoking weed?

He did a lot of other stuff. He had a lot of other problems. Okay. There were other, yes. They had some incidents. He had some incidents. Off-field incidents. He's been off my radar for a while.

The 30-year-old linebacker may join the Cardinals at their training facility, participate in meetings, conditioning work, and similar activities the league announced. But we don't know, Mark, if the Cardinals even will choose to keep him with him after this long stay away from the game. He was a productive member of the team before. It all went sideways. Yeah, the Cardinals put out about as lukewarm of a statement

as you possibly could. It basically said, considering we have been prohibited from having contact with Washington over the last three years, it would be premature today to discuss a potential return to the team. They basically said,

we are super plugged into the draft. We'll deal with this when we have time. Which is fair. Very fair. Because, you know, Steve Kime, when he was suspended in the offseason in 2014, Washington, Steve Kime came out with about as strong a statement

as you could against him. Because it wasn't just the marijuana. It was, you know, there was an assault issue with a former girlfriend. It was basically a myriad of nonsense where... And failing more tests. More tests, multiple tests. There's, you know, the Cardinals at that time,

Super Bowl window wide open, we don't have time for players we can't rely on. Next man up is what they said. And so now you're not waiting for him necessarily to come back into the building. I think they'll cut him. Really? Yeah.

I think just the statements they've made over the years have been so negative about him. He's 30 years old. He was a very good player for people that don't remember. second team all pro, but that was 2012 and he's 30 and he's been a mess. And I just, just their statements over the last two or three years have been so scathing at points, borderline scathing that I think they'll just let him go. He was one of the best inside linebackers in football right before he's suspended.

But his game is pure speed. He's a lot like Ryan Shazir. He's 30 years old now. I don't know if that pure speed is going to be there when you're running a 4-48 as a linebacker. I don't know if you're going to do that at age 30. Domestic violence, too, the climate, it sounds crazy, but it's changed even since he first suspended, and I think that could be a factor, too, in him getting cut. Dan, on the trope front, he has released a statement saying that he is in the best shape of my life, he's in.

Article 8H. Troponat. The articles of the trope. Also, not bloody likely. moving on let's talk a little draft bus a little bit of draft buzz buzz that's a buzz sound the browns oh the browns

they got the whole world in their in the palm of their little hand mark the little globe sitting in their little brown paw picking at number one and number 12 lucky the Rams lost that game to the Niners for you mark you were right to celebrate that

they think about that. Yeah. Well, we'll see where the celebration comes or where it ends. Two days away, now just one day away from the NFL draft, the Browns are starting to make some moves. Owners of the first and 12th pick, they need a quarterback. But here's the thing. NFL networks, Mike Silver, reported that Browns have spoken with at least four teams in the top eight about trading up. Mark, recklessly speculate the four teams in the top eight that they're talking to. I would say that you have spoken with the 49ers because the 49ers have wisely said that they want Mitchell Trubisky potentially at number two.

I think the Titans at number five make a ton of sense because you want to get in front of the Jets. And honestly, your key is to get in front of the Jets, I would say maybe even the Bears and the Jaguars. Well, the Jets do make sense. Yeah, the Jets. All right. I mean, if the Jets don't want Mitchell Trubisky or a quarterback, then you could flip out with them too. Right. So the Jets, the Titans, the 49ers, the Jaguars are an option? What was the other team you had there?

Basically every team. I mean, one through, two through six. I mean, to me, the little pressure points, Tennessee, you know, at five, they want to trade. They've made it clear through, you know, Daniel Jeremiah reported that they have made it clear that they want to trade down. They've said publicly there's a 50-50 chance they'll trade. Hold on. He said at least 50-50, which tells me it's 55-45, Dan. Yes.

And then the other team, to me, is the big. bills at 10 could take a quarterback so you would you would think you would if you were going to take if you were got to move up you want to move ahead of the the next two teams in front of them the saints and the bills who theoretically could take quarter did you hear any west uh my family was in town so i was kind of out of pocket but did you hear any of that buzz over the weekend about uh 58 42 no street's talking 58 42 why wouldn't they be discussing that i mean i could see why that's i'm not 55 45 it's it's their moment right now so i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not not saying that that won't continue to be the case, but 5842, just keep an eye on it.

I would say I've got nothing but love for 5842. G.C. G.C. G.C. G.C. Speaking of the Browns, Mark, you, I think you have a statement to make, potentially, or you can refrain from it. But on April 18th, you tweeted, I'm tempered and lost as a Browns fan, but the hopeful slash a logical spirit in me that fell for Cleveland in 86. Here's two words, colon, Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.

Update. Update. I mean, the keyword in there was illogical and sort of lost and everything else. Like, I really do, here's where I stand. If Cleveland is going to trade up or do anything, it better be for another rock solid defensive type prospect. I don't want to, I don't want them to go up and reach and give away picks for any of the quarterbacks.

I'm not saying I've studied this as much as other people. it certainly have not, but starting to watch more and more, Mitchell Chubisky, more and more of Mahomes, and all of them, I think these guys are all so imperfect that I cannot understand why you would trade up or why you'd allow this to leak out of your building to such a degree. I kind of feel it a little bit that might all, this might be a massive smoke screen, it might all be nonsense, but I am not sitting here pining for one of these quarterbacks at all. I would rather them not trade up at all and get two great players at one and 12. I'm starting to feel better in terms of there was some, unrest about the Miles Garrett situation

feels like we're very close to getting the report that it's a done deal. The Browns will take Miles Gareth. If it is not, I think you have to suffer the risk of 31 other teams. There have been words banning around shouldn't be in the league if they get this wrong. Well, no, someone said that they should not be in the league

if they don't understand that you take Miles Garrett number one. They simply are not competitive. You cannot go into year two of Hugh Jackson, where it sounds like there's issues inside the building about who wants, what if that's true, with Miles Garrett not being the number one pick and letting that fall to a team like the Niners. It's an unbelievable situation that sets you up to, for, again, years of comparison with the player you passed on.

So what would we call up, like, the Saskatchewan Rough Riders? I would honestly, I would not do anything at that point. I don't know what I would do. Oh, come on. What if we got rid of the Browns? We relegated the Brown. No, it's a terrible number you can't stay with it at 31. It's an easy answer.

The Montreal alouettes. Okay. Flip places with them? Yeah. Here we go. I agree, by the way. It's embarrassing. I agree with what you're saying, Mark,

in terms of that you're suspecting this could all be a smokescreen. Yeah. I think what you're saying about not being excited about Chubisky is so logical, it's going to be true that teams aren't going to be trading up for these quarterbacks. And the smart play will be to see if they fall down. and of course some will get taken, but I just can't buy it that teams are going to be giving up extra draft stock. It is every year, moving on.

There always seems to be a first-round talent where a bombshell drops that throws, you know, messes up draft boards and also potentially messes up a person's life. And in this case, Ohio State quarterback Gary and Conley, who is considered one of the top prospects in this draft, it was learned this week that he's being investigated by police after he was accused of rape by a woman earlier this month that is according to Cleveland police

who confirmed it to NFL media. Conley has not been charged or arrested in connection with the alleged incident, but it goes without saying Greg Rosenthal that this could lead some teams to go in a different direction. We saw it with Laramie Tunsell on a much lesser potential situation involving the player, which was the weed bong gas mask thing. Layall Collins a couple of years ago opted to not get drafted at all

and went the other route. Told teams not to draft them. And now Conley finds himself potentially in a similar situation. Yeah, it is, it's tough to know how this will shake out. It's such a serious accusation. The police can, you know, as you mentioned, confirmed to the NFL that they're investigating it and it's going to take time.

You know, I went and looked in just where was this guy going to get drafted to begin with? He was thought of as a top three, top three or four quarterback was probably a mid-to-late type of first-round pick. And with this sort of uncertainty, I mean, people have compared it to Collins. To me, they're very different situations, especially because Collins told teams not to draft them. You would think teams would just stay away. but we're guessing about things that are sort of unknowable, right? I mean, wouldn't they just stay away? It just happened.

We just learned about the case, and so all that has to play out. It is, I think it must be a surprise to scouts, because I was looking at, Bob McGinn puts out the scouting reports and talks to scouts about these players. And the words used to describe Conley were, great character kid, everybody loves this guy, really good teammate, leader of the group. So it's not someone where there's like this map,

this history of, you know, strange behavior, illegal behavior on a level. So it's terrible timing. And if it's true, then he won't be drafted at all. We're not going to know, though, by the time Thursday comes around. Moving on. Jake Long was the number one pick of the 2008 NFL draft, and he is calling it a career. Almost 32 years old, he announced his decision on Twitter on Monday,

almost nine years to the day when he became the first overall pick of the 2008 draft ahead of Chris Long and who? Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan, who went number three that year. Long released a long statement about his decision to leave the game.

Injuries have basically just completely destroyed him in the last couple of years after he was a true lockdown left corner for several years. No, he was a corner. actually, Wes. Do your homework. A lockdown left tackle for multiple years with the Dolphins.

So, you know, notable to bring it up. Nice career for Jake, but I do have a statement to make. You do. I do. As the CEO slash GM

slash director of communications for... Slash inventor. Slash inventor. You are the Jerry Jones in this situation. this situation slash jera

in so many ways of the San Diego Greybeards big announcement here the San Diego Greybeards will induct long time left tackle Jake Long

into our ring of honor on Sunday October 22nd and half time of our home contest against the Jacksonville Jaguars please join us as we honor

Jake for his years of service to the NFL's most senior friendly franchise seems 50 dash 30 dash 30 dash he's got everything you look for in a franchise caliber player for the graybeards he was once an all pro

oh he's an all pro on the graybeards he was he was on my graybeard's team in both the 2015 and 2016 outfits and i'll tell you what i thought long and hard about putting him on 2017 i think when i decided not to once he saw the article get published on NFL dot com said if the graybeards are passing on me i think maybe it's time to move to the next step in my life i think you are over your long pun limit for this whole segment. Those are all unintentional, unintentional. That's what's happening in the news. No Jay Cutler?

All right. The rest of the league doesn't care about him, neither do we. Jay Cuddle wants to play. His agent is telling people. There you go. Good luck. Good luck, Jay. Now, moving on.

It is time. and I want to say I want to start this by saying we have we have gotten sloppy much like we we failed in our promotion of our video shows that this ran for the last month it wasn't something we did you know on purpose it wasn't you know we didn't mean for it to happen this way but we just we kind of let ourselves down with that a little bit

and you know we being part of a collective we but we are part of right maybe you know maybe others could have helped us as well with that. I don't know if anyone in the world was aware that we had those video shows, but maybe next time around, there will be a general awareness. But this situation with Go Get My Lunch,

you turd, is that we have gotten a little lax in paying off sandwiches. And I just want to say with peace and love that I don't think we should do go get my lunch anymore unless we get back to the core of it, which was put your sandwich

where your mouth is. And if you get a proposition incorrect you got to deal out sandwiches it's coming out of your wallet thoughts i am all for this i think that there should be some accountability attached to your uh propositions oh i i i totally agree uh looking at the go get my lunch site i think i was 11 and 6 in our last little round my do you always turn this into like a great grassithal promotional my family hasn't eaten my that that can feed that could feed us for a week i've been waiting for those sandwiches And I have to tell, I have to tell my kids, no.

I think thought that maybe maybe having some responsibility attach these picks might ruin your percentages a little bit. Right, because I think on a subconscious level. The three of us might care a little bit more and actually try. On a subconscious level, I do. We only stopped like for one or two times. Wes was three and nine last time. I mean, I think.

It's a big way. Why would we just start now? Don't we have to make up these old sandals? Wes, why don't we, okay, we're all in agreement. Let's get back into paying off these. sandwich debt. I didn't express agreement with that. Well, here's what I say that. One thing when it comes to pain them off, it's extremely

murky, because at this point we've had two waves of sandwich bets, Super Bowl and Free Agency. And everyone's sort of up and down with our standings. You kind of have a good run, a bad run. We've got to find some sort of system to find out what anyone actually owes.

Well, let's start now. Right. And the standings will, you know, obviously all the picks count. But starting with the draft here is a nice chance to reboot in terms of the payment. So if you've succeeded up to now, as Greg has, unfortunately, exactly. Unfortunately, you're out of luck.

It would be very good to have lost lots of sandwiches the last few rounds. Right. It never really matter. Your word didn't matter then. Now we'll just arbitrarily decide it matters now. Now you're right. That is bad news for you, but, you know, come on, get over it. Very good news for Wes.

And now, Wes, before we get into these, you have to understand that I think this is a, very important round for you. Oh, I agree. 2017 NFL draft. You went 3 and 11 for a free agency. You did go 1 and 0 in the Super Bowl. Once upon a time.

I didn't get that one. What was the one? It weren't even there. I think it was marks that the Super Bowl will not happen. That's true. Yeah. Nail that one. Yeah. I think if you'll look back on history, when we first started this segment, I was in first

place for a while. And then I went in the bucket like you did during the draft one year down. I did. I had that really bad. draft, which really the fact that I'm just behind Greg is a real credit to the old Zusser coming back from what I think was a one in 14, 2015 draft. But here we are now. Wes, this is your opportunity to get back in the game, crawl back to 500.

And once you get to 500, anything can happen. Now, let's get into them. Mark, we start with you, your first proposition. And for those that are listening to our first, for the first time, each of us will go round, make a prediction about the draft, and then each of us will have the opportunity to take up that person on their prediction and say, no, no, no, no, no, you're wrong, Gibroni. And then there are sandwiches in play for the winner and the loser. My first prop is two words long.

It rains. Rains? Where's the draft, right? Outside! It is outside, and it is an incredible risk. You are going right up to Mother Nature, and you're saying, we're taking you on. We want three days of sunny, blissful weather, low winds. I'm seeing some precipitation.

No Googling the weather. Are we not allowed to do any research? I would say if you have not done any up to now, that we would, that you, I would say I would not if I were you, but you are more than welcome to do whatever you want to do. Well, here, this is a perfect example. Maybe a couple months ago, I'd say, yeah, why not? it's going to rain, it's not going to rain, let's go for it. But now I know there's actual, there's like $8.

You either know that there's a very good chance or that there's a little chance. I don't know. I think the weather in the east is very unpredictable. If you want to tie yourself to a weather report, be my guest. I would say that even if it rains at all. Any amount of precipitation. Any water from the sky. And we have Connor or on the scene.

I'm going to have him on this minute to minute. Well, it's only during the draft. Now, what if it's overnight Friday night, but not during the draft? I think it needs to be during the draft. I don't think it's fair to say. So Thursday, Friday or Saturday? Friday or Saturday from when the picks begin to end. If it rains in the middle of the night, I'm not going to tag you to that.

That seems a little ridiculous. I was thinking just Thursday night, but you're saying for the entire weekend. The draft is a three-day affair. I'm going to take you up on that. I haven't even looked yet. I'm going to look anyways. What if it rains during off hours? That's what I'm saying.

I'm going to only peg you during active, like bell opens, bell close. I think that's making it even more fair. I'm going to look at the five-day weather. I maybe should not have taken you up. Well, Greg already did. It looks like right now a 20% chance of precipitation at its high on Saturday. 80% in your corner. 10% Friday, partly cloudy.

So it's 30% here on Thursday, according to the National Weather Service. But I took you on it. I'll take you. Yeah. Why not? Yeah, weather. are coming as 10%. So you say it will rain. I am saying it will rain at one point during the active pick session of the draft.

Either Thursday, Friday or Saturday. No precipitation. I have not done any homework on this issue and purposely tuned out Greg and Dan during the segment. I'm taking you up on it as well. I like it. All right. So there you go. A lot of sandwiches on the line tides of rain.

Chris Wessling, here it is a big, big round for Chris. We all know what the pressure is on. No pressure. No diamonds. Chris Wessel. Should the 49ers stay put at number two, they will not draft an offensive player, which means no Leonard Fournett, no Mitchell Trubisky.

If the 49ers do not trade out of the round, they will not take an offensive. Interesting. Because no one really thinks they'll take Trubisky. I mean, that would be a stunner. All kinds of reporters do. I don't think. I haven't seen.

All kinds of reporters on our network, do it. We've already said we're not buying it. They're throwing it out there that the 49ers are putting it out there. Come, come great us. but I don't think anyone believes there's any chance. So who does that really leave? Just Fournet, essentially. So you're kind of just betting on Fortnet.

Do not try to dress down my statement. I'm not. And Trubisky, just because you don't believe. Well, that's his thought process. I'm talking it out. I'm talking out. So I guess. Wes is fired up.

You knows the stakes. So watch out, Greg. No, Greg always tries to diminish whatever you put out there. Oh, this isn't really going out on a limb. Yeah, that's a great. That's a great move. That you talk out the percentage. So you're saying it's just four net.

Why don't you just. H.S. Fournett and leave Trubisky out of it. I was going to go. Stop dumbing it down, Greg. Ornette to the 49ers as my onion hanger. But now, since I have this opportunity, I'll just take you up on that anyways. So I'll kill my other one. I'll take you up because.

Because why not? I think it's, I want to just see what happens. I think it's a good prop. Let's go for it. Oh, wait. Take you. Wait. I'm confused.

You're saying it will. He's saying it's a defensive player. Oh, right. I agree. So I'm not going to take him up on that. Right. You think it will be a defensive player? Yes.

I think that's a heavy favorite, yeah. Or a punter or a kicker. I think I will lose a sandwich, but I'm going to just be, I'm going to be a sport about it and take you up. Well, you did have a nice round where you let Sydney act as your conduit. I'm taking every bet, unless something is totally outlandish. Yeah. I think, you know, this game always confuses me.

I think that the 49ers will stay in the pick and pick a defensive player, so that means that I will not take you on anything, right? All right. Good to know. All right, moving on. Now I'm thinking about it. Well, you made your pick. I'm flipping back again.

Because why would I change what my onion hanger was, even if it was an onion hanger? I'll take it. I'll take you up. I'll say they'd take Leonard. Why not? Right. If that was your onion hanger.

It was going to be. It makes sense that you would. It's gone now, though. Right. Too bad. I've got to come up with a new one. Sid, do you know that as per tradition, the producer has to come up with a go get my lunch prop for the draft as well?

I did become aware of that about 20 minutes ago. In fact, the Irishman. Brandon McGinnis, is the only producer to ever win a sandwich prop and it came on the draft last season when he predicted correctly that the Cowboys would take Jalen's or a team would take Jalen Smith

in the first two rounds of the draft he picked up four sandwiches there. That was a nice one. I think maybe the producers are cursed. They were. Even though he got that one right, Jalen Smith is now not doing so great, you know? So maybe I should just sit this one out.

Nice try. Nope. He got his sandwiches, though. I do remember getting Brandon's sandwich. This is part of your job. You have to do it, Sid. So even if you have to kind of lay low a little bit, maybe ease up on the drops for the next 15 minutes or so,

you've got to come up with something. All right. Essentially begin your draft prep when we did. I'll go next. I don't, you know, what do I know? Nothing. So the one team that I follow very closely during this walk up process obviously is the Jets, so I will throw one out there with the Jets.

It is a double. It's a two-parter, a tease. What are they called in your parlance, Greg? Is that a tease? Parlay. Parlay? Is that what it is? Parlay in the parlance? Not a trifecta.

The Jets will go defense in the first round for a ninth consecutive year. Mm-hmm. And they will not take a quarterback in their first three picks. Oh, wow. you know you I will take that yeah you went against the normal rules that's sort of an onion hanger right there by putting two different things on a table because I kind of I agree the top players this year seems like it's mostly defense up there but I think they'll take a quarterback so I'm taking you up on that sandwich Mark I will too I mean it's a complex I've tried these complex multi pronged bets and I'm like oh for nine on them so I'm going to try to win one back and here's and here's my logic I don't need to get into the quarterback situation again but I will say the Jets have so many holes on both sides of the roster that I think they are more likely to just stock up on various players that can help and maybe Todd Bowles help save his job.

It's not crazy. And also I can see. You're convincing me as you're talking. Trade out of that number six pitch. I think they're desperate to do that as well. And I think that would be done all around the idea of stocking up the roster and kicking the can on quarterback till now. next year.

So we'll see. Well, and your GM would probably be in the position of having to already cut a release, a quarterback he just drafted about 700 days ago or 365 days ago. I don't think he's prepared to do that. It's such a bad look before Hackenberg's ever stepped on the field. We don't even know if the guy is real. Oh, this would be the Christian Hackenberg is real drop. But Sydney right now is powering away trying to come up with.

Christian Hackenberg is real? So anyway, I got three sandwiches locked in on that one. I'm a little worried about this one. Yeah, I think you did a good job. Yeah, you kind of hoodwinked us with the double-pronged maneuver. I'll get screwed, don't worry. Well, O.J. Howard is sitting out there, too. I think there are a couple factors out there.

Yeah, I don't think they have the onions to pick Howard, but that could happen. Greg. All right. Greg wearing the Henley today, by the way, on Chris Westling's corner a little bit. Interesting. Well, he is the strong silent type, so it's a good fit for him. Real John Wayne. Henley is what the strong silent types wear.

Yeah. I like this. Whatever you're wearing is what the strong silent types wear. Go ahead. Ruben Foster in the news for failing. Oh, Rubo. That drug test talked about it a little bit on Monday's show. People a little worried, you know, will that crush his draft stock?

I'm going to say no. That despite failing the drug test, despite having an altercation with the hospital, worker and whatnot, some reports that he hasn't really made a great impression. I'll say he still gets taken in the top 15 picks, doesn't end up hurting his draft pick, Doc. Top 15. Top 15. I'll take you up on that.

Hell, I don't know. Yeah, I'll take him on that. Why not? I had a problem. Ruben Foster, where is he going to go? I don't know. Well, I think he would have gone. I think he was a lock for top 10 at one point.

If people thought he'd be about a top 12 type of pick, I think maybe the Saints even were a factor. I had a prop, which I will not use, where he falls out of the top 10, but I don't think he's going to fall much farther than that. The one thing that we're hearing is that the issues, the stuff that's cropped up, a lot of teams don't consider it a massive issue. I'm not going to take you up on that one, actually. What happened at the doctor check-in?

That was a fun little story. Yeah, just that he was waiting for a long time for his tests, whether it was an MRI, I'm not really sure. And he started getting a little ornery, and he got into it with a hospital worker, some sort of back and forth, and he ended up getting kicked out. Maybe the hospital worker was a class A jerk.

It's very possible. I like mean linebackers. I would like if my team had one. Well, mean to hospital workers, though. Mean to everyone. How about that? How about mean to anyone? Meant to Puff.

Yes, Baltimore, Raven. Rush for 28 yards right up the middle of our defense. Take this guy off my draft. board bad person all right wait i hate to do this but i really need to run to the to the men's room for a second oh my god we're just going to stop down this is a first we're not going to stop but we're going to do our read right now you've got to check on his me undies that is weird that has never happened on this show before there he goes strong silent type small bladder we're going to have to stretch his read out excuse himself he did to go use the restroom

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Thank you. Respectfully ask. Like, hey, the guys, a part of the show would like a explanation why the offer code is universal. I predict the answer will be vanilla. And here comes, Greg, right on cue, emergency averted. Greg, we decided not to even do the Mondays read. We spent the entire time talking about your abrupt exit. I have no regrets.

No, listen, it could have ended a lot worse than it did. Put it that way. All right. by the way next round you did you just go a second time mark i have not yeah before we do that let's do our uh a group uh wager it's just one prop and we all make a guess and that uh that will be the following scenario what slot or which slot what slot will the first quarterback be taken so um whether you believe that to be the first round I think most people think it will happen in the first round.

Forget about the team because the teams could trade out and it's very possible. That's how this ends up playing out, although you never know. So not the team, just the number, one through 32, go around the room. Or if you don't think anybody in quarterback goes, say off the board. That would be an onion hanger. Mark, you're up. Just reading the tea leaves, don't want this to happen.

I'm going to go number five Titans. Well, number five, wherever that ends up being, whatever team. So someone trading up, possibly the Browns. Not trading down. Trading up, I believe, into five. I'm also going to take number five, since the Titans are 55-45 to trade down. Interesting. Well, reading the tea leaves once again, five is a lot of sense.

Six makes a lot of sense. So I will say, just to be different, I will say the Jets will try. trade out of six and I'll I believe the Browns will trade into it and they'll make the pick there so I'll say six my thought process was was 10 or 12 really were the two I was looking at people think the bills might take Deshawn Watson I think Trubisky could end up just fall into the Browns which no one would be too shocked by but I'm going to go with the bills I think I think let's go number 10 number 10 so two five is six and and a 10 mark go your next prop all right controversial player talk about a guy with a lot of baggage

but also it depends what kind of team you are where your ownership's at joe mixon considered by some to be a phenomenal talent i say that he is gone by pick number 35 35 i had a joe mixon one that is similar to this we could team up it was my onion hanger what happens that's a tough game Other people's onion hangers are just my second or third proff. I'm just getting warmed up here. Mine is a little more oniony. Well, you can still hang it later. Anyway, so you're saying he will go in the top 35 picks,

despite that horrific domestic or violence incident at the restaurant, which obviously is on a lot of people's radar. And we've been starting to go to school on these players, and I think the general thought is he might be the most complete running back in this draft, even more than Leonard Fournett, and if not for that incident, you know, he'd probably be a top 20 pick. I will take you up on that. I think that's right around the over-under, so that makes some sense.

But that's real early on day two. That is the first three picks. Those three picks are Cleveland, San Francisco, and Jacksonville. You could argue, I didn't want to go deeper because I think those three teams potentially would have a need at running back and would potentially take a chance. You could also make the argument that one. or two of those teams will scratch that itch in the first round, which will leave maybe just one team that has a need at that point.

I will also go, I'll take you up on that. I just think teams, it's a different world. We were just talking about that earlier in the show. I think some teams don't want to invest to pick that high with someone with that type of baggage. So I think, you know, mid to late second round might be a more likely spot. We'll take you up. This is a tricky one.

I'm going to take it. It's a tough one for me to figure out, but I'm going to take it. Why not? Wes, you're up. Christian McCaffrey does not get drafted by a team called the Carolina Panthers. Kind of interesting. So you're taking the field. That's a rare, that's a clever move.

The funny, Wes, look at mine right here. Christian McCaffrey will not go to the Panthers. So we're in the same boat on this. So obviously I will not take you on it. He won this 78 and 85 record, seriously. He wants to bounce back. So anyway, since that was my exact next prop, I will not take you up on it. Conventional wisdom is he is going to the Panthers.

But that's bupkis to me, conventional wisdom the day before the draft. I mean, I'd like it a lot better if the Eagles were picking before the Panthers. I'm looking, barring trades, I'm looking at one through seven, and I don't see the candidate that grabs him ahead of Carolina, and he's such an ideal talent and need fit for Carolina that this is one of the rare ones where I'm not going to take you up. I think that you're logic. Wow.

DJ. Wait, you said he is going to Carolina, right? I believe he's going to Carolina. Well, I said he's going to someone not named California. So you would take him up. Oh, I will take you up then. I heard that wrong. Yeah, DJ Daniel Jeremiah tweeted he was wondering if McCaffrey would even get to A.

I will not take you up on that. Just because any time there's that big of a consensus, I don't know. You never know. I mean, is everyone really know something that much? It seems like it could be 50-50, but there's always a chance, like DJ said, that he doesn't even get to Carolina.

Well, like San Diego would be surprising, but DJ kind of mentioned even... Especially because they're not a franchise, yeah. That's a good point. The Chargers, maybe the graybeards jump up into the top eight. That would be cool. They have a featured back. They do.

He said some teams even with running backs in place like him. that much because he's not your traditional 1A he would maybe be a I guess the reason I am going Panthers is because if 1 through 7 4nett's going to go to one of those teams maybe the 49ers then McCaffrey is your clear number 2 guy

and it just fits so neatly for the Panthers that if they don't if they go another if they're going to pick a running back it's him in my book yeah my next one simple the Browns and the Texans will take quarterbacks in the first round The room stops that in its tracks. Well, I just think they will.

I can't take you on that. I think both teams are bound to do that. You're starting to come out of your new strategy. It's too logical. I just agree that they're that they will. yeah my logic is obvious the browns if you threw a wild card in there then i'm taking up but they're not those are two not those are two clear quarterback targets the browns have two first round picks and they could hypothetically trade out one of those picks even move back in the first

round and still get a guy they like potentially and and the Texans i think they're desperate to turn the page again once more and i think there's pressure once again coming down from that from ownership, get me my new quarterback, make me forget about the old ones. So I think it's... Throw the Cardinals in there, I take you up. Wow. I can't triple.

I can't do the... Can't triple step or double step. Yeah. What did you come down on this, Wes? I feel like the logic is sound that the Browns and Texans plan to draft a quarterback in the first round, but I'm going to take you up on it

because there's no telling who's going to be there at 25. The guy the Texans want might be off the board. So they might have to adjust on the fly. I will take you up on it. I've fallen into the trap again by including too many, you know, parts. Whenever you do that, you get in trouble. But it wouldn't be gutsy at all to say one of, you know, go with one of them. No, I don't even think this is too many parts.

I think you're right. I think it's perfect. Like, we must be getting good at these games because all of these feel like 50, 50 shots to me, almost impossible to pick. But I'm going to do it West says for the same reason that you just, never know and maybe maybe the Texans love Patrick Mahomes and maybe he gets taken before there who knows i have a theory on why they all seem like 50 50 it's not just that we're getting better the draft is not our area of expertise so our knowledge is like okay that sounds reasonable

and i think it's one of the more mysterious first rounds in a long time that rubin foster one is still like rattle around my brain well people have said even though we we don't know any we don't know anything and then on top of that The conventional wisdom is people know less about this draft of what's going to happen than any draft in a while. I mean, no one has any clue what the 49ers are even going to do at two. There's like five or six players people have been thrown to them. All right. By the way, just for time reasons, Greg, you're going to do your second one.

Then we have one more each. We've got to go. Okay. This whole taking my onion hanger before really confused. Walla Walla is a big onion. There it is. Giant sweet Spanish onions are good. And a red Zeppelin.

Maybe I'll save this one. Red onion. Oh, Greg, you're up. Sorry, Red Walla Walla. Couldn't you have done this in the restroom? I like the internal monologue. I'm going to have John Ross. Maybe I'm going too deep here.

John Ross is going to be taken ahead of Mike Williams. These are kind of the two of the top three receivers. There's been some talk Ross actually might fall right out of the first round, so then I would be totally wrong. But this guy's fast, and people love fast. People like speed. He set the combine record. I'm just going to bet on that.

He broke the record of Chris Johnson, so people get excited about it. But I think the people that get more excited about that are probably the people like the layman and maybe not the people in the building. I'm saying what I would get excited about. I hear Mike Williams, and he kind of sounds like one of those guys who maybe doesn't get a ton of separation. You're just looking at the other Mike Williams. And he's poisoning the well for this Mike Williams. I will take you up on that. I think that Williams will go before, Ross.

Once again, it seems like a reasonable 50-50 proposition. Right on the nose. But I'll take you up on it. I think this one's a little bit of an upset. It's definitely an upset pick. It's a 58-42 upset. John Ross's fragility will be the deciding factor. Okay.

Yeah, he's got some injury concerns. And Mike Williams is a lot of late hour visits. Teams are interested. I will take you up to it. I think Mike Williams goes first. Fragility, a big factor with these players. Fertility, less so. One of the players.

You don't have all the information on that. That a Travis Henry, Dick. One of the players has an eight-year-old kid. That's an old kid. It's an old kid. It's a lot of mileage on that kid. All right, last round. Here we go, and if you haven't dropped an onion hanger yet, it is time.

All right. Well, number one, I like giving food to my friends. I'm okay occasionally swinging for the fences. I'm not going to give you some robotic, ultrological onion hanger. I think that this outdoor setting... I'm going to show you a little bit of our growing huge onions. I've already told you that weather is going to be a legit factor in this draft. There's going to be a lot of these clowns at these tables.

Well, you... All right. You in the National Weather Service. They're trying to get their pick in. Quick, get your card up, but there's a lot of confusion. Are we postponing this pick, that pick? That for the first time since the Vikings, in 2003, missed a pick.

I'm not saying in the first round, but between round one and seven, a team is going to miss a pick. And it's not going to be as the headline grabber like it was when the Vikings completely botched that. But over the course of these rounds, whether chaos, utter sort of just nonsense is going to force one team to blank on a pick.

Good luck ever keeping the draft indoors again when you've got this kind of mayhem. Total mayhem. Bedlam. They'll be putting these drafts in underground bunkers after what happens this year. As well, they should. Look at the excitement we've added by putting it outside. Next year.

No one will miss their pick, in my opinion. Okay. Yeah, next year, team's draft while we shoot paintballs at them. I don't know. I'm going to take you up. Oh, surprising. Meals reasonable I could go 50-50. I will take you up on it.

That was good on you. That was good hangar. All right, West, time. Well, I'm not convinced we're ever paying off these sandwiches. It's happening. Get it out there. This is the last edition if we don't pay it off. My onion hanger.

If you want big onions, you've got to get big onion plants. The old man woke up and now he won't shut up. Joe Mixon gets drafted before Dalvin Cook. Oh, wow. Well, I will take you up on that. Just because I like having the ones all make sense together. I just said he's not going to get taken in the top 35. So that's an easy call for me.

I'm saying Dalvin Cook gets drafted. like in the 40s or 50. Okay, that's a way you can win that. That's a good onion hanger. I will take you up on it too. Okay. I'll take you up on it. Next. A lot of sandwiches in play.

J.J. Watt, Texans' all-world defender, will tweet or Instagram or some use of his social media, a childhood photo with brother T.J. Along with some cringy faux inspirational hoagum when T.J. is drafted. Wait, I feel like there's like 100% chance. He's almost absolutely going to do that. Well, I'm actually saying the specific... That's like an onion protector.

No. I'm saying... Like some me undies. A specific image from their childhood together and he has to have something cringy faux inspirational. Who decides whether it's cringy? Okay, so let's break this down. If he sends a picture, let's say, of him and his brother

at last year's Wisconsin game or something that doesn't care. It has to be childhood. No good. It has to be something from, I'm going to extend it a little bit to like, you know, the formative years. So anything from when they were, you know, single digit age through junior high high school. In some uniform that we've never seen before. or some early high school experience.

Now, what if, let's just have a, for instance, the quote is, I always thought you would make it this far so proud of you, bro. Does that count? Yeah, sure. Okay, it doesn't have to be pre-pubescent. I don't know what's going on downstairs or under the armpits, so I can't tell you.

But it's got to be like 12 and under. I mean, like, if it's their freshman high school photo, that's not really childhood. High school. Yeah, no, I said coming of age, formative years type thing. So, yes, anything high school. They're pretty far apart in years. So, yeah.

I will take... No, I agree with you. I feel like this is... I do, too. I'm sorry. I do. I think actually what you've done has made an excellent prediction

that this is exactly what JJ Waugh would do. JJ Watt would need to be put into, like, a medically induced coma to not do this. I agree. He's going to do it. This move. He's going to use it. I'm not going to get a single, like, pop out of us?

I mean, it was a fine onion. I'm stunned. I don't... It's a fun prediction. It's not... It wouldn't say that it's, uh, shockingly... Wow.

Out of character or bold. I feel like it's a one and... Just the hyper specificity of it all. Is that how you say? Specificity. Specificity of it all. To me, it's a 55-45 thing. Like, he's doing that.

The only question is whether the picture is new or old. Those are the only questions. And I'm going 55 that it's an old picture. All right. So no one took you up? A rare onion hanger without... Stunner. All right, Greg.

And Sidney on deck. Wow. She's nervous, I can tell. All right. Leonard Fortinette to 49ers was going to be it, but that's gone now. So let's go with the Saints or the Cardinals, one of these two teams, will take their quarterback of the future on Thursday night. Okay, one of them.

One of those two teams. Can I ask you one question? When we say quarterback of the future, we're not waiting four years to find out if he actually ends up. No, a quarterback. A quarterback. They will take a first round quarterback, one of them. Yes. I will take you up on that.

I will take you up. I don't think either will. They're both pretty high. Cardinals are 13. I think they might have to trade back in to get it. I think the Cardinals will take a quarterback, but I'm going to take you up on it because they need a lot of things right now. All right.

I'll take the field. I'll take it. The Cardinals really need a quarterback of the future. They do, but they could easily address it next year or two. Or when all of these quarterbacks fall to the second round. Right. That could get me. We're talking first round.

Right. First round. 13 is rich unless you're really in love with these guys. I'm hoping that one of them trades back up, maybe the Saints. But Saints at 33, they could bump back in. Are they another 32? Ooh, 32. They have the last pick in the first round.

That's a good spot for a quarterback with the much coveted fifth year option. You know, Drew Brees, by the way, has. I didn't even factor that end, but... On record that he plans to play into his 40s. And all this talk about them needing, like, desperately to draft a quarterback. Come on. He's still one of the best five quarterbacks in the NFL. So little drop-off.

Yeah, every come down. All right. Drafting Garrett Grayson every year. Finally, we might need some timpany for this one, Sid, because I know this is such a big moment for you to carry on the torch that the Irishman passed to you after going 4-0 last year, your prop. All right, here it is. I'm like shaking.

I've never seen Sidney this nervous. Okay. She's not a gambler. There will be a T.J. Watt cam. And we will see T.J. Watt. Like, the camera will cut to him and linger on him. You know, like a real, not just a, oh, hey, there's T.J. Watt, but it's going to cut to him specifically at least nine times before he's drafted. So you're, all right, first of all, do you know any of the production details?

Are you just going all? I know, no. Right, because you could find this out. All right. So you're saying there, there will be a camera in T.J. Watts' home or his family's home, wherever he is. And before he gets drafted, which could be in the first round, it could be in the second round. There will be nine cutaways. Nine cuts.

At least nine. Before he's drafted. Before he's drafted. That's a large number. I will take. I will take you too. And you know what? Like T.D.'s Calvin Johnson.

This is why we've got great listeners. They can keep track of the exact number here. That's another game they can play. That is an all-time onion. Stop treating them like their toddlers, Greg. Listen, there were 16 cutaways. I'm just saying we're not going to be right. And we're not going to be totally focused on every second.

And I don't watch ESPN anyways. Sydney just shared some logic there that there were 16 cutaways of TJ's brother during that playoff game while he was on the bench. That's different. But it is a little apples and oranges there. I think you're in deep trouble. But what if JJ is there? What if JJ's in the home?

That's a wild card. That's a wild card. Seems reasonable. He's probably there. He's right. Before drafted. Before that's a lot before. Yeah.

I mean, of course I'm taking you up. I like it. It's a creative question. I mean, it's not as bad as when TD went for 40 touchdowns. 24 for Kevin. But it's close. So just as a summation here, what Sydney needs to happen? She needs T.J. Watt to be one of the players that has NFL network cameras.

Is it NFL network only? You said ESPN, didn't you? Or ESPN? That's important, actually. We'll give you either. I hadn't thought about those details. You want to give her either? Well, here's the thing.

It's going to be one or the other. They probably wouldn't both. NFL network feels like they could go super. super gushy on this. Yeah. So whichever network has them. Every network. And if neither network has them, you lose.

She's already done before the draft even starts. But Sidney's a very honest woman, but I also feel like she might have some intel that she's not sharing with us. Whoa. Interesting. I just got a feeling. Bit of a cessler that Sid's got an eight. I think I'm running in high circles. You're running in high circles.

It's all that new money. Corrupt circles. You're above the treetops a little bit on this one. All right. There you go. So there are the 2017. draft props, many of which will be decided by the time you next hear from us. We will record a podcast immediately after the first round and get it to you, you know,

really, I'm going to say around, you know, midnight or so, Pacific time will drop, you know, in the middle of the night on the East Coast, so when you wake up, it's there for you. I don't know the time zone situation in the UK and beyond. You guys can figure it out. But just know that we are going to get this thing out to you right after the draft as soon as possible. And then again, on Saturday, after the completion of the seventh round, we'll be back upstairs. And we will do a full recap of the draft. So that will be our next two shows.

And we're very excited to bring them to you. Should be ready for the morning commute in the UK. You know, about eight hours. They're eight or nine in the morning. For those who work. Not everyone in the UK works. Some will just be in their rooms doing literally nothing. Our friend Simon is a taxi driver, so who knows what kind of hours he has.

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