NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2019 Week 12 Recap

Episode Date: November 25, 2019

A room filled with heroes- Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap all of the games from week 12 including the Patriots beating the Cowboys in the rain (03:09), the Buffalo Bills stomping out the Broncos (28:25), and the Jets (35:23) and Browns (57:46) winning again. As always, they recap the Sunday Night Football game, this week between the Packers and 49ers.(1:17:01)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast presented by the United States Marine Corps. My name is Dan Hansus. Joined. It's a room that just filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys. Hey, Dan.

Mark, did I promise you? I'm waiting. A fantastic nug at the top. off of today's show. I'm not going to get in your way. Oh, yeah. He might. The Jets and the Browns, both.

You know, two wildcard hopefuls. That's the Nugs? No. Oh, okay. Tell me the last time our teams both were enjoying three game winning streaks at the same time. What year? I would say 1986.

Exactly right. The Browns won three. straight in weeks four through six and eight through ten that year the Jets won nine straight weeks weeks three through 11 it has it's been 35 years they then went on to play one of the greatest double overtime playoff games ever yes I remember a blown call by an official that cost the Jets that that game no that's not how that game went as I recall a lot of blown calls in the NFL this year suggest that they'll be meeting each other again probably in the playoffs um anyway so let's enjoy it while we have it.

I will attempt to. Certainly the first time it's happened since we've worked together, so that's nice. This is week 12. Is that right? That's absolutely right. And we got a lot of games to get to. And, you know, they say the real season doesn't start until Thanksgiving. So perhaps this is just a glorified exhibition, what we watch today.

But we're going to just treat it with the gravitas. It deserves nonetheless, Chris Wesley. It's Thanksgiving week, so maybe this one gets. I don't know. Like grandfathered in somehow? Maybe. So we're going to get to all the games, ending with the Sunday night affair between the Niners and Packers.

And I don't know. I mean, I feel like, although it's a great moment for us right now, Mark, we got to start with Greg's favorite team once again. I did notice Greg actually kind of smirking during that moment, that nug that you unfurled there for us. Shocking? Just realizing that it doesn't really mean anything. Was it kind of like self-satisfied and look out?

Legit. Fetting not to break out into total laughter. That's my resting smirk face. That's how I look. You do have a resting smirk face. All right, let's get into the action. Yes, the Cowboys went to Gillette Stadium to face the defending world champions. So let us start there with our Week 12 recap.

Brady in the gun. And I'm now motions to the left as Brady takes the step. Backs up, lucky left. Backshoulder fade for Harry in the end zone. Caught it. Touchdown. Patriots. Beautiful throw.

Terrific catch. For the first career score, Nick Heel Harry. You find out what the rookie can do. We saw this in training camp. We saw him the preseason. He's got the size to do the back shoulder catch. And it is a strike from the 42-year-old to the backside shoulder of number 15 to get him his first touchdown. Doesn't it feel like the best thing for a Zolak to do?

I'm just saying, rookie. 10 years, 12 years of just vocal rest. Because he can't keep going like this. It might be advisable. Bob Sochi and the Z-Man with the call for the Patriots Radio Network. Yeah, there's the touchdown we got from the Patriots, but this was another game decided by New England's Fierce D, which shut down the Cowboys top-rated attack.

13-9 win at Gillette Stadium. Wes, Tom Brady, missing several regular contributors, lived in the Gabbard zone for the second straight week. but Brady and the offense isn't the difference maker on this team right now. Well, he was prescient with his comments last week that we are a defense and special teams kind of team. And I think you can throw coaching in there too. It was clear which side was better coached than this game.

And I don't think I've ever heard Jerry Jones say what he said after a game like he did today. Basically, he said it's very frustrating when some of the football, some of the fundamentals of football and coaching were what beat us today. And then he added, with the makeup of this team, I shouldn't be this frustrated, basically saying, I gave you the players. They're out there. We are one of the most talented rosters in the NFL. Why are we losing these close games over and over and over again?

And to me, the Cowboys did not make enough plays, and to the Patriots credit, they made more plays. And the play that and the sequence that will stand out in what, Garrett will be ripped to shreds for in the talking head shows tomorrow and throughout the week. It's a terrible day in New England. It is cold. It is windy. It is raining. So you have that to contend with as well as New England's excellent defense.

And at 13.6 with about six minutes to play, the pats are facing fourth down. And what was it? About fourth and six, seven, seven in the red zone. And they have a decision to make. and, you know, we, you know, Garrett, sometimes I try to defend it, but this is exactly the type of stuff, which keeps the Cowboys from the next level. Instead of going for it and being aggressive and going for the tie,

you kick the field goal, and they did get the ball back. So you could say, yeah, but you could get on him for not going for it there and playing it too safe, but they had the ball with three timeouts and two minutes to play, yes, but you had to go 95 yards by the time you got the ball back. And again, in these conditions against that day, your chances of winning actually went down, according to analytics when you kick that field goal. I mean, it's the same old stuff over and over again.

I'm not surprised that a Jason Garrett team falls short in the small margins of things. That wasn't the most egregious Jason Garrett decision I've ever seen just because of the conditions. I think you've got to go for it there because, like you said, you have to get the touchdown and the odds on getting back there aren't great. You hadn't been there the entire game. But there's just a lot of little things. There was a formation. Didn't expect to talk about this.

But just while we're talking, Garrett, a formation that the Patriots threw at them two different times during punts that the Cowboys weren't prepared for. And one of the times they had to get penalized, the other time they made a mistake. And the Patriots special teams that Tom Brady talked about has not been a strength this year until the last couple weeks. But they really won this game with a Matthew Slater, you know, blocked punt. And you've seen the last couple weeks that they're special teams, which year after year is always. one of the best groups in the league is now making plays, too. It was key against the Eagles, key this week. And the weather is so bad that you do have to give the offenses,

I think, in each of these last two Patriots games, a little bit of a break. I don't think the Patriots defense would have held the Cowboys to nine points without the weather. But you could say the opposite is true. The Brady and the Patriots would have done a little more, too. We've been lucky where there haven't been a lot of terrible weather of football games, but the Patriots have played eight straight quarters in windy, gusty, disruptive weather.

My one thought on Jerry Jones in his comments is who has a better inside look and a longer look at a coach in Jason Garrett who is not going to match up ever with the Bill Belichicks of the world in situational football. This has been an issue with the Cowboys Forever, and Jerry Jones's loyalty to Jason Garrett infuriates many Cowboys fans. So I get that you gave the players and you got the roster going, but this is a Jerry Jones issue as much that you kept around. There was also in this game that tripping call on Travis Frederick that I thought was, I agree with Troy Aikman. It was heinous. It was absurd and that affected this game. When was it? Break that down a little bit. It was very late in the game in the fourth quarter on a key march for the Cowboys.

It took away a Zeke first down. It set up a third and long, which turned into a fourth and long that the Cowboys didn't convert. It was a killer. I was surprised that Mike Pereira defended it and thought that it actually wasn't. A straight face. Give me a break. Well, because he's been very hard on the officials all year in general, so I don't think it's because he's some bias. Mike Pereira's argument is essentially an offensive lineman can never pick up his leg to move.

That was Mike Pereira's lowest moment. He's very good. In fact, he is the best in that role as throw it to the rules analyst and Pereira will give you concise information and be quick. But in this case, he should have just fell on the sword because that was foolish to say that that was an attempt at a trip. He was like Wes was saying, moving his leg mechanically as a blocker must do

to stay in front of a pass rush. Like, I get it, and it was a big play, and the Patriots got super lucky there. But I don't think, you know, at some point you have to look at the fact that they got the ball 12 times. They didn't score a touchdown. So where's the confidence

that they're going to score a touchdown that drive? You know, you get a couple breaks if you're the Cowboys, a couple fumbles that they ended up recovering. And it does pain me when wins or games like get marred by the bad calls. But there's also so much else that happened in that game where that the Cowboys didn't take advantage

or that they caught a little break that, you know, I guess I've seen more. We're not saying it costs in the game, but we're allowed to say it's an unsatisfying result to a close game. As a Patriots fan, I actually thought there was a lot of positives in this game for the Patriots. A, this is the best team they've beaten all year. They have not faced the toughest schedule in the world to me.

Well, they played the Jets, but okay. I mean, that was earlier. You know, this is a new... Was that a Jets thing? That's a new Jets team. I'm, no, this is the, this is, Mark, do you, do you understand the idea of an olive branch? Wait a minute.

Before you snap it over your knee. I am lifting our teams up. I'm lifting our teams up. Yeah, we're hot. It's a hot team. It's sort of like a joke. It was not a non-olive branch. More heat, please.

I also thought, you know, they ran the ball. Stinky Davis. They ran the ball pretty well in key spots. They got the ball late. And that's where, again, you can fault a lot of things. The Cowboys didn't have to give up first downs to the Patriots when they knew the Patriots were going to run at the end of the game. The Patriots also had a couple really well-blocked runs early in the game.

It wasn't flashy. It's 20 for 85 for Sony-Michel. But those are the same numbers as Ezekiel Elliott had earlier. You had Jacobi Myers, who's flashed at times, make pretty big plays as your number two receiver. You have Nikiel Harry have a touchdown. You have your first-round pick, Isaiah Win, be key on a lot of these run blocks. He had some trouble with Robert Quinn, but I thought Troy was smart to point out. They had two people playing left tackle the last five or six weeks because Marshall Newhouse was so big.

bad. You know, you have a running back shipping the whole time. Now you have the running backs going out for routes. I actually thought defensively was as good a team game as they've played all year two, that this Patriots team is going to win ugly. Like, they can't sweat, you know, having it not look too stylish. I would be officially concerned about Tom Brady's ability to throw to various areas of the field. I just don't think it's going to improve or get better. Or last year, you know, average regular season in Patriots land, but they tear it up in January and become this juggernaut. I don't see the pathway right now, but that said, I don't really want to be the guy on record, say, New England's in a big slump and they're not going to get out of it. I mean, it's not his arm strength, though, because I think his arm in this game, at least on a few throws were some of the best throws he made.

There's also a couple wacky throws in this game and last week, and it was windy last week, too, but I mean. Right. I guess I'm, like, in terms of just pure arm strength, though, like the deep out that he had to Harry who dropped the pass and there was a bunch of key drops, the rain and the wind seemed to affect the receipts. receivers even more than the quarterbacks. Both guys had four or five jumps. Looked strong. I mean, he looked like he had a strong arm. He's not a deep thrower. I don't think Tom Brady in January ranks very high on the list of Patriots concerns.

The Pats moved to 10 and 1. That puts them atop of the AFC. Keeps them there, I should say. The Ravens a game back, but they do have the tiebreaker. It feels like a three-team race in the AFC. It's the Pats. It's the Ravens. It's the Chiefs.

And getting that number one seed, Greg. What about the Jets? That's, you know, depending on who you ask. Well, right now. Mike Tariko on NBC was talking him up like crazy. talking about the The Patriots are zeroing in on a buy and then it becomes a race

for the one seed. Right now they have... You need that one seed this year, Greg. I think so. But the buy is even more important than the ones just getting that... Their grandfathered into a buy. Give me a break.

Last thing is I do think Stefan Gilmore deserves a defensive player of the year consideration. He's not going to get stats. But when you shut out Amari Cooper, you have a diving interception, you have a diving past defense in the red zone. He's having as good a season as a shutdown cornerback in half.

He's got nearly as much. many passes defense this year is reception's allowed when darrell rivas didn't win in 2009 i know he won't but i just like throwing it out there's like when's it ever going to happen uh let us move on and will lutz from 33 yards zach wood hold his down kick is up and it is good it's good will lutz is good from 33 and the new orleans saints are going to win this one thirty four to 31. Never a doubt, Deuce. Too much drama for me, Zach.

Way too much drama, buddy. You saw a team that was playing desperate, but man, they are good ball team. Zach Shrefe and Deuce McAllister, the Saints Radio Network. Yes, Will Lutz hit some 32 yards out as time runs out. Deciding points and a 3431 win for the Saints over the Panthers at the Superdome. Lutz's made came minutes after Panthers kicker Joey Suss. sly, yacked, a chip shot field goal of his own that would have given

Carolina the lead with 156 to play. Kickers, man. The Saints moved to 9 and 2. They remain in the thick of the race for the number one seed in the NFC. And yes, a deuce put it well there because this game started out as a boat race, a cakewalk, all these things.

I don't know what any of these things mean other than it means it's a blowout. especially boat race Yeah I have no idea what boat race means But 14 nothing before you blink And you think the Saints are going to roll To one of those 38 to 17 type wins But give credit to the Panthers

Give credit to Kyle Allen Who bottomed out last week against the Falcons With four interceptions But really played very well in this game Really well in fact And when you guys watch this game You will I'm sure come away with the same feeling And it's just such a shame

because the Panthers were in trouble. You know, they were five and five. The owner just came out and said, I will not stand for mediocrity. And you kind of needed this win to have a pulse going into the back end of your schedule and your kicker cost you your season, essentially. And that's what it came down to because Sly,

you know, he missed two extra points in this game. And then the field goal miss, it's remarkable how when you watch it on replay, he's almost right in front of the uprights and he skies it just straight up and to the right and he misses it and you know that's that's the way it goes so the panthers are cooked at five and six and the saints it's not a not a pretty win for them and there's some things two of the last three weeks now there's some things you can point to and be maybe a little worried about the defense certainly had had its issues today against Alan and Christian McCaffrey who had yet

another big game. But survive in advance and stack wins because in this loaded NFC, you're going to have to win 13 or 14 games potentially to get that by. They seem to really miss Marshawn Ladomor. I mean, DJ Moore had a big game today. And Christian McCaffrey, they were down 3117, and I'm trying to track these games on Red Zone and everything else at the same time. He had what I would call almost like an Eric Metcalfion, that old amazing Browns player and Falcons receiver of old touchdown run that was just, you know, he could not be shut down. I was impressed. And you, Dan, you often sing before our show a song, I'm lonely. And it has a, I don't know where that's coming from all the time from you.

But if you would like to really be lonely. Well, I mean, I get that. It's actually I'm lonely and then parenthetical, I'm lonely, close parenthetical. I mean, the lyrics are powerful. But be an NFL kicker that misses two PATs and a field goal. That's, he could sing a song about being lonely because you're already on the outskirts of that locker room week to week typically. This is a tough kicker year in general.

Up and down the league, you're seeing all these guys that are struggling badly. Now, I want to get to one thing, because it is a major subplot in this season, instant replay and the review process and how coaches are obviously confused about what they should even throw the flag for because almost nothing is being changed upon review. But now we're seeing an instance happened in the Jets Raiders game I watched where they buzzed down after a Jets touchdown and called OPI and called it back and it cost the Jets four points. And in this game, with the game hanging in the balanced high game, 3131, and the Panthers

facing a third down deep in Saints territory in the final minutes, they get stopped and they throw the challenge flag, Carolina. And on a very ticky-tack call, the booth reverses the decision and calls it OPI giving them a fresh set of downs near the goal line now to the credit of the Saints defense. They got three more stops, so they got six stops from inside the 10-yard line

and then the sly miss. But again, just another example of how confusing, it's getting even worse, West, with Pandora's box here, because in addition to them not changing things that seem like they would be changed, now we're getting this other element that's sneaking in from upstairs coming in and making changes you don't

expect. Let's hear what Sean Peyton had to say afterwards. Look, I'm not going to get into it on the replay relative to the fouls, the change that took place in the offseason, but sitting in on every one of those meetings, I don't know that it's exactly what we discussed where we are today with it. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's not, but we've got to be able to adjust to it. So obviously a glaring disconnect, and it's not getting better. Well, it's unacceptable the way Al Riveron has rolled on this rule this year. It's just not okay. And for him, to say afterwards, after reviewing it, it was clear and obvious through visual evidence that

the defender significantly hinders the receiver. Clear and obvious is not a fuzzy phrase. It's with clarity. It's by definition with clarity. We have seen so many calls with clarity that were clear and obvious that the New York office has not deemed clear and obvious. So this rule is, it's just a mockery. I would ask because the same thing happened in the Browns game too. And so suddenly you have a flurry of these happening. There was about two or three last week, although none of those seemed questionable last week. But yeah, they've popped up suddenly

the last two weeks. You could throw the flag on the same thing and then there wouldn't be a call on a similar type of play. It's just, there's no consistency and it seems to be getting worse. But when there were three tripping calls today and there were only four prior to this all season,

it makes me wonder, and I, you know, we're not on these phone calls if they even occur. Are there these officials gathering together saying, okay, guys, we've got to focus on this rule or this role. And some people are a little too duty oriented and then suddenly they're throwing yellow flags all over the place and calling down and changing games. It's like the cop sitting in the speed trap at the bottom of a hill trying to get to his monthly quota. Exactly. One quick thing before we move on this game is we have talked about Breeze's arm strength and that that is a factor.

But what we should mention too is the throws he made on a couple of those touchdowns are accurate throws that very few quarterback can make where he just puts it in a window. And then the back shoulder throw he had to Thomas basically to set up the game winning field goal. The timing it took. Thomas didn't turn around until the ball is right there and you don't need arm strength for that. You need accuracy and timing and he had a lot

of pretty throws. Bresian. Bresian. He's a master in the one minute drill. He can still do a lot. For as much criticism of we're giving him, he's got a lot of strength. Dan? Yes. Well, you sing the song because Mark teased it and then you guys didn't sing it so I feel off balance. Okay. It goes a little like this. I'm

lonely. I'm lonely. I'm lonely. Please help me out Please save my life Please help me out You're adding new birds We get rich new verses depending on the mental state Thank you That's where I was right now

One last note Michael Thomas has 104 receptions Thanksgiving is on Thursday Be careful I would say 142 Just sit right there Now worth monitoring Best for you and your family

Most likely Let's move on David Moore wide to the far side The handoff straight up to the middle. And Penny is off to the race in 20. 15, 10, 5. He's in. Touchdown, Seahawks.

He was shot out of a gun. Rashad Penny from 58 yards out, takes it to the house. And if you can't chip away, why not blow up the entire stone? And that's what Rashad Penny just did. Nice job, Steve Rayble. Seahawks Radio Network. The rare shot out of a gun. as chewing the cannon.

Right. Can I mix it up. Rashad Penny ran for a career best 129, including that 58-yard score you just heard to lead the Seahawks to a 17-9 win over the Eagles who suffered through yet another miserable day on offense. They are in serious trouble. Greg, the Seahawks didn't have Jadavian Clowny in this one,

but they improved a 6-0 on the road. Life's good on the Seahawks Corner. How's your FOMO? It's fine. I get to watch the Seahawks. Big Play offense, and they are so different than the Eagles. In a game that the defenses did a great job throughout, the difference is Russell Wilson only has 13 completion, but he has 200 yards.

He has a 38-yarder to lock it, a 33 to Turner, which came on another flea flicker, which hurt the Eagles. I mean, that was the only Seahawks touchdown until that Penny touchdown. So they were struggling, too, 31 to David Moore. You had a 21-yard play to Hollister. Penny had that big run and another one. They're explosive. even on days where you're going up against a really good defense,

like they will hit you for chunk plays and find a way to get a win. And if I'm a Seahawks fan, I love that the defense has come out of the last couple of weeks playing their best two games of the season. And yes, it was against the Eagles who have all sorts of trouble and the weather was a factor. But I don't care. This Seahawks defense wasn't stopping anyone for a while,

and they've had two really great performances. You know, Dan, I know your kids and my kids, when they were younger, were obsessed with, garbage trucks, and, you know, they'd line up on these LA streets and watch these trucks rumble up and down the road on garbage day. And if you watch those videos attached to that, that these garbage trucks, they rolled up to some center somewhere and they empty all their contents into a gigantic warehouse filled with garbage. That's the NFC East right now. I mean, it is a junk division at the moment, and it's hard to watch. But the Eagles are dealing

with so many injuries today. They did not have Alshan Jeffrey. They don't have Lane Johnson. They don't have Nelson Aguilar. They don't have Jordan Howard. And the offense as a result of this, they already were broken down when those guys were healthy. Even, and then they lose Brandon Brooks, who might be the all-pro tackle to an illness. So it won't be a long-term thing you wouldn't think, but he did not play after midway through the second quarter. And their defense, who's, they're a playoff defense right now. Their defense is peaking. They were flying around today. You know, they really held Seattle, who just felt like they had a million possessions. I mean, if you liked Patriots Eagles, last week, Punt Fest, you're going to love this one because it's a lot of

turnovers, it's a lot of punts, and it's a lot of defense. The Eagles have scored one touchdown in their last 25 possessions. Carson Wentz turning the ball over today too. Carson Wentz can't shoot straight. I mean, he has 11 turnovers and seven touchdowns in his last six weeks, and he was so inaccurate today, and yes, the weather was bad, but Russell Wilson, I thought, played great. If it wasn't for four or five drops, his stats would look a lot better. Wentz is just, I've mentioned he's not inaccurate.

Like, as stars go, he's not accurate. And it just seems like with this receiver cord, it makes it even worse. This is the receiving core that they ran out there alongside Zacherts. J.J. Arthega, Whiteside. Greg Ward. Picked up a lot of first downs, Greg Ward. I would say it was their best wide receiver. Former quarterback.

Mack Hollins, Jordan Matthews, 2019. Yes. Carson what essentially is being asked to save the world, but maybe he's not up to the task right now. Right, but when he just, there was a couple of plays really early in this game where he had just wide open guys in the flat on third and three, and he like threw it 10 yards over their head.

Is he pressing or is it just, you know, he like, his play. There was a play to me that kind of typified. It was a fourth and two, and he had all day to throw. It was, you know, it was a time where they did do a good job protecting it. And he kind of goes through his progression, He gets to the checkdown late. He sees Artega White Side. How about that?

Nice. Well done. And he throws it to the wrong hand. He throws a fastball from five yards away when Artigo was going to the left. And that was all on when. So there was a lot of plays today they were all on wind. But to be fair, because I think we're not, we don't really see from the quarterback side that you're practicing almost very little with any of these guys.

How many reps does Carson Wentz have with Greg Ward Jr.? I mean, you're, then suddenly you have to do it in a game situation, operate in, you know, conjunction with them. Good luck. I would look into Greg Ward Senior and see maybe if he's an upgrade on Jordan Matthews. Maybe Greg Ward 3. You don't know how old is? I like that you always say 3 instead of the 3.

Remember when it was Robert Griffin 3? It is like a mental block for me and it's not, it's not trying to be cute. Robert Griffin 3. KJ. Wright, Ed, one of those quotes. I've always struggled with the RG. So that's how it comes out of your brain, like the over a new rule? Robert Griffin, the third or Robert Griffin, three, yes, I don't know why.

He's doing great. That's a fascinating little look into the cranium. That's one of the brighter things happening. K.J. Wright had one of these quotes that I think it's going to get a lot of play in Philly all week where he said, we were calling their plays all day, you know, before they ran them. We knew what was coming. Don't Kay J. Wright and Bobby Wagner say that after that game? They love saying that.

Well, they're smart guy. They had that by Jimmy G. Yeah. Makes you look good to say that. Absolutely. By the way, Shaquim Griffin, who, you know, got all the love in the world. obviously for overcoming what he did, but has mostly been on special teams into this point. They're using him as a situational pass rusher, and he's starting to make some plays,

which is amazing to see. He had two QB hits today. He didn't get credit for a force fumble, but he blew up a play that was a very key force fumble in this game. They should have given it to him. And on the play, which the penalty ended up, you know, calling back his recovery, he picked up the ball with his one arm and ran with it, which is just like, I don't know, watching him be a third down kind of difference maker and coming in on

passing down is pretty awesome. Jim Abbott threw no hitter once. Yes, a kid in our youth. Labor Day also his youth. It's a magical moment. A pretty good Indians lineup too, Wes. Oh, yeah. By Erika, Albao, Albaelle. Kenny Lofton. Let's delve into that for five or six minutes. Serento.

Robbie Alamo? I don't know if Sorrento. Sandy Alamar Jr. A good pizan, that's Sorrento. Five and six Eagles. Wake up. Erica, can you look up the 1990? Cleveland Indians and let me know Paul Sorrento was on that roster. Sure.

Might have been with the Mariners at that stage. I'm not sure. All right, let us move on to an AFC game. Second and 13. Josh takes the snap, wants to throw it, weights, fires into the end zone looking for his man down there.

It is caught, caught for the touchdown. Caught for the touchdown. John Brown. What a throw by Josh Allen over the top of Chris Harris drops it right into the breadbasket of John Brown. Turn this off of my headphones again.

Pops and robbers. Bring me the native. No, the natives bring me the girl. Yes, typically. Where's Spider-Man? I like how we all have different interpretations of what this music is. I know. You're into, like, ancient, you know, tribal warfare.

And we're cops and Superman and Super Spider-Man. It's interesting. The cartoon version of Spider-Man from the early age. The one little eerie and strange. Nothing for Greg. Yes, that would be. I like it. It's a little tropical.

32 years old. I'm more tropical. Josh Allen threw two touchdown passes, including another scoring hookup with John Brown. A 20 to 3 win over the Broncos. The bills moved to 8 and 3. Their best start in 23 years. And as we talked about on Thursday show, this sets them up really well as their schedule tightens up.

They have some wiggle room here. West, Buffalo continues to take advantage. of the schedule, which to this point has been pretty inviting. And now they're adding some decisive wins to their ledger. So credit to the bills for that. I said on Thursday that these teams were closer than their record might suggest, and I am pleased to eat crow on that one. The Buffalo Bills gained 300 more yards than Denver Broncos today.

It was 22 to 9 in first downs. The bills had the better scrambling Allen at quarterback by far. Josh Allen, I think this is his best back-to-back. two-game stretch of his career. And you can say the dolphins, you know, anybody can put it on them. The Broncos' offense is a tomato can. Sure, no doubt. But their defense is top five since week three.

This was a pretty good performance. It's not a perfect Josh Allen performance, but the athleticism, the like sheer raw ability as a scrambler to get away from these athletes at defensive end and linebacker is fun to watch. John Brown and Cole Beasley have been great free agent signings. this team has a lot going for it. They have a two-game lead for the number five seed

with five games left to play. But as Mark pointed out on our Sky Sports hit, their schedule is at Dallas versus the Ravens at Pittsburgh, at New England, and then hosting the white-hot New York Jets in the season finale. Who will have been riding a seven-game winning streak by them. That will have playoff implications,

maybe even divisional. If you're a Bill's fan, though, you have to feel great because we were hard on them early in the season because we say, you know, beating bad teams convincingly is a sign that you're good. The way that they were winning was not a sign that they were going to go far. These last two weeks have been amazing. And then it's what's going on underneath all of that. They haven't had much of a pass rush for much of this season, but the last couple of weeks, Ed Oliver wakes up. He's playing great. He's making some noise. You get a pass rush on Brandon Allen. And then Matt Milano, who I thought

was a really key player for them a year ago and was really a shell of his former self for much of this season has also started playing really well. So sometimes with injuries, it just, it takes a while to recover from something that's serious. But when he's playing this well, him and Edmonds are as fast a linebacker duo as there is. There was one other interesting note from the Bill's offense today. They went no huddle more frequently than they have in five years and they ran 73 plays their most all season.

So they are trying something new with the uptempo offense and it suited them well. When we've seen Denver's offense in recent weeks start to show us something. interesting about the future. It's because Cortland Sutton and Noah Fon both were operating pretty well. Four catches today for a combined 41 yards. Tredavius, White has a lot to do that. He's a stud.

He's been awesome. He's right there on the all-pro list behind Stefan Gilmore. Absolutely. It's running for 244 yards on Denver's defense. Congratulations, John Elway. You have crafted a roster at this point with zero identity.

I used to be alone on this island, and now everyone's on the island, and I love it. I want condos. I want high-rises. Everybody going against the John Elway Empire realizing the emperor has no clothes. They won a Super Bowl. Right.

He did do that for them. I thought you were going to say congratulations to the inconvenient truth. Frank Gore 15 for 65 and becomes the number three all-time leading rusher. And just because people are jerks on the internet, immediately I'd be like, well, of course, he's not in the same league of Barry Sanders. He's just complying. Just being accurate. Like, no kidding. Like, no one is going to say that he is a superior running back on a play-to-play basis.

Of course not. But what he's done and what he's been special at throughout his career is the reason he got to number three. Teams keep employing him because he's a value add into not just what he brings, you know, behind the scenes, but because he can turn two yards into four because he can pass-protect because he's good in the receiving game. Because he's better than your backup running back. The way that he's lasted this long is incredible. I want to know more about what he's doing behind this. scenes.

Oh, he's an all-time leader. When the nuclear... Greg doesn't share everything he knows. When the nuclear holocaust comes, it's going to be cockroaches climbing out, and then five minutes later, Frank Gore. Right in for four yards. There you go. Greg behind him with a little notebook writing notes and telling everyone about him.

I had several snarky replies in mind, but I'm just going to let it go, Greg. It's a great achievement. I mean, it's not on me. I mean, it's just that says more about you. Congratulations. Oh, we have an update. Breaking news. All right.

Wes, Mark, Greg. Paul Sorrento played for the Minnesota Twins, 89 to 91. The Cleveland Indians, 92 to 95. Then he went to Seattle, 96 and 97. They closed it out with the expansion Devil Rays, 98 and 99. So what did that even? So Wes was correct. I was right.

Paul Sorrento. The listener has forgotten by now. Whatever you were talking about, I don't remember. At West been correct, we would not have even done a breaking news strip there, but that's important. I'm not allowed. to file it up. All right. Was it good to know the information?

I'm glad you buzzed in, but I don't think I have that authority. I thought that siren was that Drew Locke is coming in for Brandon Allen. He should. Wait, I have a Charlie Whitehurst note. Oh, wow. Brandon Allen is the first quarterback since Charlie Whitehurst five years ago to attempt 25 passes and throw for 82 yards or fewer in a game.

Following the footsteps of clipboard Jesus. Mr. Jewel. Right next to the Frank Gore-Berry Sanders note, fault comes that. I mean, of high intrigue. Gore, Sorrento clipboard Jesus. Clipboard Jesus. Let's move on. As Donald's back to throw off, play action, looks right,

throws up the right scene and in stride at the 40-yard line. He's got Berrios. He gets loose. Left side line, 40, at the 30, at the 20, looking for the pylon, pushed out. Braxton, Berrios, all the way down to the one-yard line. Like a lightning, he shot up the right scene. And Sam Darnold found him with a side. Side on throw, 69 yards to the most unlikely target on the field.

Braxton Burri us. Bob was choosing with the call Jets Radio Network. Whoa. 34 is wild. Sam Darneth threw two touchdown passes, ran for another score, leading the resurgent New York Jets to an impressive 34-3 victory over the Raiders on Sunday. It's their first three-game winning streak in over two years. Wes, why is 34 Wild?

Because they've done it three straight weeks? They've scored 34 points exactly in each of the last three weeks, all victories. And listen, I am not going to get too excited about the Jets getting into the wild car. You already are. Because in New York City, I'm on doing York City. You know what, you're right. I'm just going to enjoy this while at last because you have, in the next two weeks, and I am I am my eyes are wide open I've been a jet spend for too long to look past anybody success never sits well with this organization no matter you know what the stakes are because a three game winning streak that gets you to four and seven is not something to get too overly amped up about but you have at Cincinnati next week the worst team in football and then you're home against the dolphins the dolphins are one of the worst teams of football you're in your building you should get to six and seven and we've been talking about it that nine and seven keeps

in the mix to potentially get a playoffs. But now they have a tiebreaker over the Raiders. So those are the things that you could spin to be excited about with the Jets. When I walked in the building this morning, I was definitely not expecting Jets' playoff talk. And I didn't start it. Mike Tariko started it. That's what really got my mind cooking.

He brought them up several times. I like the do it lady. She's all in on it. Anyway, so it was an absolute beating. I mean, the Raiders who cannot simply, and a few teams are, but the Raiders certainly cannot look past anyone. And that's how this game felt, because the Raiders have a big division showdown

at Arrowhead against the Chiefs next week. But first they had to travel east and play the Jets. And from the kickoff, you know, the Raiders get three points to start the game. But then it was all Jets for about 57 straight minutes. How bad did it get? Derek Carr ganged from the game in the third quarter. Josh Jacobs, same thing. Sit down.

And John Gruden waves the white flag. He knew his team had nothing, zilch, and they just said, let's live for another day. I didn't think it was a great look, by the way. I know it didn't really matter. And Greg, you were saying maybe, you know, teams should do this more when they're getting killed. I'm surprised teams winning and losing, don't do it a little more. I just don't love the message of it all. When you score a couple touchdowns in the NFL, it can happen quickly,

and all of a sudden, there could be a pulse. You're playing the Jets who specialized in that for 50 years. But I welcomed it because the game at that point was over when Mike Lennon enters action. So anyway, the Raiders, no show against the Jets, and it's a reminder that as good as the Raiders are at home this year, and they're genuinely frisky and fun, that if you get them on the road,

you can get a very mediocre team, and the Jets made them look worse than that on Sunday. They're just a team that, to me, if you get the game you got today from Josh Jacobs, there's just not enough else on this Raiders roster to hang your hat on. And we talked about this being, you know, it has been a rough year for Adam Gase, but this was the win I pointed to and said, you want to change people's perceptions and change the energy.

It would be this. And it's a thumping. And yes, you can talk about the 34 points, you know, three weeks in a row. The Jets defense has been awesome the past couple weeks. And Gruden's comments after this game were as strong as I've seen all season. He was seriously pissed off. Well, I know everybody's obligated to just fall head over heels with the Raiders and never question anything, but this is a team with a six and five record and a point differential that is worse than the Falcons, worse than the Broncos, worse than the Lions. Negative 56.

Yeah, they're just, to me they're not a playoff team. Well, we'll see, and because of the schedule, I don't think they will be either. I would be concerned about the line, and Dan, you watch this game closer. I would say what they can hang their hat on for the first eight, nine weeks of the season was their offensive line, was maybe the best in league. And they got worked last week against the Bengals. I mean, they were dominated, which was shocking to watch. And then the week before was one of their lowest games of the season in terms of yards for play against the charges. They did not top 300 yards in that game.

And then you score three points against a jet. So what was making this team good was the line and their efficient offense. And that's a three-week trend, and that's a concern with the Chiefs coming up next. You made the point that the Jets are playing very well in defense, Mark. They have, and probably people aren't really plugged in on this, that Jets have the best run defense in the National Football League this season. And Josh Jacobs was the latest guy to run into a wholly at about 30 yards before exiting. So we'll see.

Greg Williams is the perfect coordinator for a team without a ton of talent. Yes. You don't want to have a team that doesn't have a ton of talent. But if you do, I think Greg Williams is the good guy to have. I wonder if he's won and done regardless just because this is the track record and you hear things that things behind the scenes aren't very smooth as usual with Greg Williams

and what's going on over there. But I think he's done a very good job this year. And the Jets' offense now starting to come around. This is kind of who we thought they were, which is a team that could be maybe around a 500 team that could play teams at their level closely win some of these games. So progress now for the Jets who really needed it.

and Sam Darnold, who's playing very well. Every good game by Sam Darnold matters a lot. Especially how bad it was for that stretch there. The ghost game with the Patriots, the Jaguars game, the Dolphins lost. So I've been really impressed by how strong he's been. I don't think he's had an interception in three straight games now. So definitely progress. All right.

Now, before we move on, let's take a quick kind of pause here. we have a listener who has a little brother who was in a video that went viral on social media we talk about Greg's color blindness on this show a lot but in this case in this video and we and if you're watching our show our video show right now you could you could see this but you could also check it out online of a kid using glasses to be able to seek in color for the first time, and he gets emotional, and it's awesome. And it turns out his older brother who posted that on Twitter is a big fan of the show, Mark. And I know you were moved by it enough that you reached out to the brother. And you wanted to share it. Yeah, his brother, his name is

Ben Jones, and we'll give you some information so you can go look at this on your own after this. But I mean, some of us in here are dads. Wes had a bunch of brothers, older brothers, younger brothers. And you just watched, to me, I watched this thing at home last week. And it blew me up because yeah it's not just let's just watch it and you can talk about it after we're all yours okay they're all yours let's see what it does so what do you think then with people he crying that's awesome hey come here come here dude oh I'm happy for you So here's a look at a follow-up tweet that you can find, and we'll tweet this out to the GoFundMe page that this boy's mom, Carol Walter Jones, started. And it's worth noting that that principal who brought him those glasses also has dealt with severe colorblind issues his entire life.

So to me, I just saw this thing and it's like, wow, I mean, having my own kids that have their ups and downs, this GoFumme page has already raised over $24,000. The glasses are about $300 each, and this company that creates them in chroma.com is apparently going to match, give away a pair of glasses for everyone that's funded. So if anyone, we've got awesome listeners who have helped with a lot of things before. If this hit you, the way it hit me, help out.

That's awesome. Glad to help however we can, and maybe we'll get you a pair too, Greg. I don't think they, I think Greg is maybe a different level of colorblindness. That's how it works. We could try. We could try.

the thought. I saw a video like that a couple of years ago where it was an older gentleman and after like 65 years he got a pair of glasses and you're just struck by the instant emotion that like your life has changed from there on out nothing will ever be the same. It's wild. Awesome. And to that boy's brother, thanks for listening, buddy. And we're happy to help how we can. Let us move on. Can DeHill and companies start at their own? Four-26. Here comes Henry 30. Henry 40. Henry 50s. Henry Stiffhart 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, end zone.

Touch that. Titans, do you want some of that? Yes, you do. Derek Henry, 74 yards to Peter. Oh, yes, take some of that. You got to love Dave McGinnis there in the background with Mike Keith. Just laughing. Sometimes you've just got to laugh.

Derek Henry is good at rushing the football. The Titans scored. Four touchdowns, over six offensive plays in the third quarter. That's 74-yard run, just one of them. A 42 to 20 beatdown of the Jaguars. That's two straight wins for the Titans who stay in the mix for a wild card spot. Mark, do you believe? Wildcard division even.

They're in the mix. What do you think, Mark? I do, because I think one of the more underrated or not talked about enough units in the NFL is Tennessee's defense. Let's start right there. A lot of this 20 points by Jacksonville. A lot of it happened in what, and I know no one knows what garbage time is anymore, but it happened with the game well out of hand.

So it was the entire second half of the offense. By the time they got the ball, it was over, right, in the second half? Yes, it was absolutely over. I mean, the 28 points, the Tennessee scored in that rapid fire succession, that explosive third quarter, was the most they've put up since they were the Houston Oilers in 1990 against the Cleveland Brown's team in a last November day. And it is consistent.

to me when we can preview these games and how often we preview them and we get them totally wrong. But we diagramed without anyone really questioning it that Derek Henry was probably going to do what he's done against the Jaguars again. And it was like the Jaguars know this is coming. They can't stop him at all. Two hundred and nineteen yards on the ground by the Titans today. And this comes after last week the Jaguars gave up 264 yards. And before the buy in London, 216 on the ground. This team is done. This team that used to be based around

their defense simply cannot stop anyone on the line right now. They cannot overpower anyone. And it's easy to lean on the Nick Foles, Gardner-Minshoe part of it, because I will say the offense in Jacksonville and I'm not just blaming Nick Foles has zero energy.

It's all dried up. The deep passes, the daring do, the late game heroics are all gone. And so it's probably just that Nick is coming at the wrong time because you're suddenly in games where you're getting beaten down on defense and there's not enough from Nick Foles or the offense to make up for it. If the Titans played the Jaguars every week, they'd be the Larry Zonka 1970s dolphins. Didn't they lose to the Jaguars? Or am I crazy?

Yeah, the Titans, but that's beside the point. Over the last few years, the Titans have been unbelievable against the Jaguars. And it would be nice to see Nick Foles play, but it wouldn't matter. This was a great quote. There's no way Gardner Minchu is, by the way, they've been blown out three straight weeks and it hasn't remotely been close. One of those weeks was with Minchu. Two of those weeks now are with Foles. If you're a defense that's giving up touchdowns on four straight possessions, none of which went over four plays.

Like, you're not winning that game. The Jaggers are not built. I don't care if Minchu is in there or not, like, they're not built to win these. One of the note I would mention is that Ryan Tannahill has, I think, bought himself seriously. consideration for starting work, whether it's with Tennessee or another team next season, because he, just as we talk about Nick Foles coming in in the offense, nose diving, Tennessee has become an attack that you can count on for a couple big plays a game. And Tanna Hill, I think, has won over the entire locker room with

his ability to scramble, his mobility, and just throw his body fearlessly into defenders like he did on a touchdown today. Is this like a Ryan Tannahill where he is changing and becoming something that he wasn't before. I don't know if I buy that. He just fits really well into this offense right now. I was just to say everything you said is right and I agree with everything you said, but I would still, if I were a team shopping for a quarterback, I'd shoot high. If we're shopping, if we're talking about Andy Dawton or other people, he's going to go anywhere.

He's going to be the Titans quarterback. I think he's staring at barring a face plant, he'll get the franchise tag. Right. He'll be on the Titans and what they do around him will be, will depend on. What an achievement that would be? If he gets the franchise, what would that make him a $23 million quarterback or whatever it is? that from a guy that lost the starting job and entered the season as a backup to be playing on a one year 23 million, I'm just throwing that number out there.

That is pretty remarkable. Or they'll figure out like a two-year deal where it's front-loaded. I just would be surprised if he's not one of their options. Now, that doesn't mean they're not going to have a high draft pick. It doesn't mean they don't look for other potential options. You would almost expect them to draft someone too. But, you know, he's helped himself. I mean, he's bringing them back to nine and seven, just like we've been joking about.

all year, even when they were a couple games under 500. They found their way. And they are the team, I think, if you're looking, like, if you're the Browns or the Jets and you're hoping everyone falls flat, it just feels like the Titans are going to find a way to win enough games, at least get to that nine number. The franchise tender for quarterback is a shade under $25 million. Good money if you can get it. It will be interesting to see how they handle the situation at quarterback now for the rest of

the season. loss season. So what do you do if you're the Jaguars? It would seem unfair to put Foles back on the bench, but I also get the temptation maybe to go back to... I think when they were officially eliminated, maybe they do. Don't you think it's already

unfair that Minchew's on the bench? I personally do. But I think they were a tough spot as an organization. I mean, he was a 500 quarterback to me that had moments... 500 with this team was playing well above his I get it. They've been blown out three straight weeks. Their offensive line is bad.

this, if they continue to lose like this, I mean, they've been the worst team in a league or one of them for the last three games that they've played, three straight convincing blowout losses. If it can continue as even remotely along this path, Shod Khan's going to be thinking about firing everyone. Tom Coughlin, David Caldwell, and Doug Marone. That's just a fact, right? I mean, why hasn't he thought that the last few years? Because he says, because they made the NFC championship game less than 24 months ago. That's why. My thought as the game was spinning out of control when they scored four. 14 points in 16 seconds or whatever it was.

He gone. I think Morone, for starters, it feels like the end of the road. It just feels like I have no problem with them sticking with Marone and the whole crew before this year. You also added Nick Foles thinking everything might change. And then this whole Gardner Manchu thing happened and put you in a really weird position with this quarterback

you paid a king's ransom to. All right. It is now time for Road to Victory presented by the United States Marine Corps. I don't know why I'm talking like Oprah I like it you get a touchdown you get a touchdown 40 35 30 bucks a man at the 20 15 10 touchdown Pittsburgh wow

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He knocked him bowed Oh, Tunch Tunch, he's having fun Yeah Was Tunch it like a party before the game? Tunch punch Bill Hillgrove and Tunch Ilkin Bill Grove

Of the Steelers Radio Network Devlin Duck Hodges took over For Mason Rudolph Who was bumbling again And Duck throws a 79-yard touchdown pass lifts the injury diminished dealers to a 16-10 win over the Bungles. The Bungles who moved into the driver's seat for the number one overall pick on Sunday. They're in good position for that.

They have now set franchise records for their worst start and longest losing streak with their latest setback. West, that hack is still on the roof somewhere in Cincinnati. Come down. Life is short. Carpe DM. Come down from the roof. It's not worth waiting until the Bengals win a game. No. Come on. Check your retweets, though. See how well to do it.

This might be more interesting or more like living than whatever he was doing before that. He said he's bored silly. Oh, okay. I take it back. Well, what's you doing on the ground? I mean, let's just be honest. You're stuck on like a 10 foot by two foot piece of metal railing. How fun.

Well, at least they got his hopes up for a little while. Wes, you wanted duck. You pleaded for duck. You got you duck. Duck season S-Z-N capitalized is here. Within his first two pass attempts, he had more yards than Mason Rudolph had on 16 pass attempts. At one point, Mason Rudolph had thrown five interceptions in his last 28 passes. And like I said, it isn't even about results. It's about a style of quarterback play in which

he doesn't release the ball until a body part is in his way. And you saw that on his interception in the red zone. He found his way into high traffic and let go of the ball with a deflection. And, you know, we've seen three times now, Duck Hodges has provided a spark. That's not to say he's going to be the answer. Not every spark ignites a fire. You know, sometimes... Can't start a fire without a spark, though. That's true.

That's true. I don't think... This guy was sitting on the bench behind Mason Rudolph, so how good can he be? I don't know, but to me, you need... If you're Pittsburgh, your defense is good enough, you need a quarterback, not necessarily to win the game, just not to lose it,

and maybe Duck Hodges can be that guy. We've got breaking news here, the NFL media newsroom. Chris Wesleying has now hurt Mason Rudolph worse than Miles Garrett did all season. Oh, I mean, poor Mason Rudolph. I hope he has a lot of success as a third-string quarterback and ultimately becomes a coach and is very happy the rest of his life. But we don't need to see him ever play quarterback again.

I'm sorry, he can't. And the Steelers know by now, they can bench him and go with Hodges because they know he's never going to be the quarterback of the future. He's proven it. That's not a style of quarterback play that will ever last. I think it had to do with the draft pedigree and with, with, you know, the early first training camp that Mason Rudolph had. There was a lot of people singing about his arm

and all this other stuff. I don't think it's the worst thing for Pittsburgh in general to not have Mason Rudolph dealing with the Cleveland Browns mere days from now either. Yeah. Well, it should be pointing out. He's playing without, or the Steelers played today without Smith-Schuster and James Connor.

This is one of the worst three or four offenses in the league with those guys on the field. They could have easily lost this game. I mean, I'm not saying that takes anything away from what Rudolph did. I'm just giving the Steelers fans probably don't love what this looked like. I mean, you've got Benny Snell and White Jr. Bernie Snell did good. Carrath White played good.

I mean, Deon Cano just picked up. I'm just saying, like, getting a win in any way that you can get a win, I'm not going to worry about. This game should not have been close. It should not have been close. The Steelers defense dominated. You know, Joe Mixen played well, and Tyler Boyd had some individual brilliant plays. But, you know, T.J. Watt had another great game, and Cameron Hayward, Bud Dupree, Mika Fitzpatrick had his eighth takeaway of the season.

This is a good defense. Steelers Browns, too, now might have duck. Hodges that quarterback, you would assume it will. And it's a big game in the AFC. Well, it's, you know, they talk about that, had not having been a rivalry since the Browns came back in 1999. And because of what's happened in the past, you know, seven or eight days in our lifetime, it is a rivalry right now as much as it's been, and I can remember. in 30 years.

And one more note on Rudolph, who had a really bad week. The embarrassing incident, obviously, against the Browns. He gets benched today. And then it comes out that Miles Garrett said that he heard Mason Rudolph use a slur in his direction. And Rudolph came out after the game today and shot that down. He said, I would not, I think any human would be in one day when your integrity's attacked and something said about you that's totally untrue.

true and I couldn't believe it and I couldn't believe that he would go that route after the fact but it is what it is. Who knows? We don't know. We'll never know probably, but just another ugly chapter to like kind of a hideous story all around. All right. Let us, oh, and that was the Road to Victory presented by the United States Marine Corps. Speaking of the round is Set him. Takes the snap. Play action, fakes it chub. Looking, looking, going down the field. There's Beckham out there and got it.

Touchdown. OBJ, right in front of the dog pound. Good job of running by the defender by O'Dell. And he beat the young defensive back. Nick Needham. And boy, he looked up into it. Tough son. That might have been the toughest part.

Jim Donovan and Doug Deakin with the call. Brown's Radio Network. Baker, Mayfield, O'Dell Beckham. See, it can work. Mayfield through, how many touchdown passes for? Three. Three touchdown passes. Two to Jarvis Landry.

One to Beckham. The Brown's three straight wins, as I said, at the top of the show. 41 to 24 over the dolphins who are back to being terrible, apparently. Greg, excuse me, Mark, in their first game since losing Miles Garrett, Cleveland looked just fine. They did, and I get that it's the dolphins with all, you know, disclaimers. ahead of time. But you could say this is the game in the offense that Browns fans thought they were going

to get months ago and what they've waited for where the parts were too much for Miami to deal with. And it has a lot to do, I think, with Kareem Hunt's emergence in this offense, that he's been used well. And he hasn't diminished Nick Chubb and who is an absolute. I feel like Nick Chubb, maybe I'm more fascinated with him than others are. You compared him to Jim Brown. Well, I see little flashes of it, and certain Browns fans of a certain age would disagree with that. But I just think he doesn't quite get enough attention at this point for what he does so consistently on a week-to-week basis.

But they're getting super consistent, awesome play from Jarvis Landry, who is, you know, and I think he was limited in that Dolphins offense, makes some incredible adjustments on the fly when Baker Mayfield isn't exactly hitting him right on. Baker had one bad pick where he kind of misfired to O'Dell Beckham. But in general, they were, it was as dominant a first half as they've had. He was 16 of 18, Baker Mayfield for 198 yards with 11 yards per throw. Everyone got involved. And the defense, you know, without Miles Garrett, without Larry Ogunjobie, without Morgan Burnett at safety, they were dominant. Joe Schobert, four picks in two weeks, has been a playmaker, another guy that I just think

that because he's at a position that he's not certain, he doesn't play like certain linebackers and he doesn't get some of the splash plays, maybe also doesn't get enough attention. But impressive win, you couldn't have asked for any more. They went to sleep a little bit in the third quarter and let Miami come back into it, but the dolphins have a leading rusher today.

It's Ryan Fitzpatrick. They have no ground game, and they need to be able to, for them to do what they were doing when they were frisky, they have nothing happening on either line, but they just can't impose their will. And the ground game killed them and put them in third and long over and over in this.

Hey, Chub was one of only three people on the Making the Leap series this year. Along with Lamar Jackson, I'm going to retire that thing after these. He's third in the league right now. Yeah, we're down to do it three. I think you nailed that, Greg. I'm saying Nick Chubb is third in the league right now

in yards from scrimmage. Only McCaffrey and Dalvin Cook, who are way ahead of him, to be fair. But he has passed four net, and he is third in the NFL in yards from scrimmage. I have friends from Tybee, which is deep Georgia Bulldogs territory who think that Nick Chubb is a rare human being

when it comes to like intestinal fortitude, toughness, overcoming long odds, coming back from serious injuries and just being a leader. They talk about him that way. He is. He never brags about himself. He never talks about himself.

He doesn't celebrate after touchdowns. He's not with 12 other people taking selfies, you know, and all this other business. It's like, no. But how many times has been on the cover of Madden? Well, there's a Browns running back that has bragging rights. The problem is, I think, from a, well, that it's true. And Peyton Hillis can take that to any place he travels.

I mean, that is a playoff game next week for them and the Steelers. And I know the NFL is trying to bury it with like the CBSD team or whatever instead of having it, you know, as the solo 425 game. But they win that. Then you got the Bengals the next week after that. And you're thinking you could beat a 7 and 6, but you lose it and the season's over. Nothing else, Steelers and Jets, I mean, the Browns and Jets are giving you December football. Well, I will, the Jets are definitely given you one December game that matters and then they have to earn more after that.

Jets are giving us January football. If the Jets and Browns play relevant December football, it's Christmas miracle. Next game is in December. It's crazy. All right, let's move on. From the one in motion Godwin. Here's the snap. To the left side, it is a card ball.

Touchdown. Bay. Chris Godwin. It's been the Chris Godwin show today in Atlanta. Two touchdowns for Big Chris. He's really just a quick throw and catch. Good throw by James. Godwin's the guy in motion and he just runs into the flat immediately and Godwin, great catch.

Ball was thrown behind him. He's able to reach out, grab it with one hand before getting hit. It's a tremendous catch. Gene Decker-Haw. Great voice. And Dave Moore with the call of the Bucks Radio Network. Good James Winston has returned. The Bucks quarterback threw three touchdown

Passes, two to Chris Godwin, leading Tampa Bay out of the NFC South Seller, 3522 pounding of the Falcons, who might still stink after all. Greg, page 483, section A, clause Z of the lock manifesto, never lock up an objectively bad team riding a winning streak of less than three games. I would say, number one rule would be in the manifesto be there should be no rules to any manifesto. That's just putting yourself in a corner. Just setting you up to talk about the game. I mean, you know,

that sounds like some Bill Simmons stuff. I try to warn you and I, because I've done, I've made the mistake one times of going off the Seahawks lock to this. Don't. No, I made a mistake. Don't mess with Greg when he's hurting like this. Right. It's tough. When my falcons go down,

it's like an injured cobra. The impossible dream is over. Get an injured. They're not getting to nine and seven. And that one-yard catch, it was almost understated because I don't think they had seen the replays yet. It was so typical of what Godwin did today. Shot on Deckerh. That was a, no, you can't tell in the thing. The ball is behind him on the one-yard line.

He has half a second to turn around and catch it with the ball going against his body with one hand and then bring it in with a cornerback all over him. He made plays like that all day. it was right there with the best performances any wide receivers had in the NFL this season. Seven for 184 and two. And some of the catches are just beautiful.

Him and Mike Evans are over 1,100 yards for the season. Right now. And Godwin adding two more touchdowns. He, to me, is my favorite type of wide receiver to watch where he can make great plays after the catch. He reminds me a little Vanquen bold

and certainly not the physicality. But the way he can come down with bad James Winston and passes. And there were plenty. He had two first quarter interceptions before playing really well the rest of the way. It's just amazing. I mean, he makes it worth watching the bucks. Why did they refuse to, in Tampa Bay, find one running back and stick with it? Why is Ronald Jones always splitting carries 50-50? Maybe I shouldn't care about this, but it's like fantasy heads seem to be, had their hair on fire left and right about it. It just fine, I find,

is it an Aryans thing? It wasn't in Arizona. The best guess I have if Peyton Barber is beloved and seems extremely coachable and has the fundamentals down so you don't have to worry about him maybe running the wrong route or being in a bad place for pass protection but Ronald Jones is so superior as a runner. This is one of the teams that struggles to gain one yard

more than any team in the NFL and Peyton Barber does that. Jones was fine but Winston played one of his best games it's like he knows what to attack with this falcons defense. His pretty throws are pretty. I mean, the 71-yard throw to Godwin

was as good a throw as any quarterback. He's sucking a lot again? No, not at all. He threw two first quarter interceptions and they're four and seven, and he's, like, leading the NFL and interceptions. He seems to get hot the minute the bucks are deeply out of contention.

Shaq Barrett also had one of the best games, and he's had a few of them, that any pass rushers had all season. Could it be happier for him? Only one sack, but another quarterback hit five quarterback hits, five more hurries. He forced three penalties on Jake Matthews that ended drives.

One of the reasons why the Falcons struggled and had these slow drives is because Jake Matthews could not stop Shaq Barrett, who also had a force fumble in this game. I mean, he dominated. Talk about a guy getting the franchise tag. I feel like a pass rush that leads to a hold. You should get credited with like a quarter sack. Yeah.

They hand out half sacks, and that's silly in a way. They had 16 passes defense and 13 quarterback hits. I've never seen such a stat sheet. I didn't follow that one. That feels medical. Where is the current state of your fandom when it comes to the Falcons? Well, I think they're done. I think it's over.

You had them play in January football. I was surprised that... It wasn't surprised that when Julio Jones is only on the field for half the snaps, that they move the ball slowly. The defense, though, didn't show up. I mean, when you protect James Winston, he's pretty great. And they did not sniff James Winston throughout the day. I think they had almost had a goal.

Colston, one quarterback hit on the entire day, whereas the Bucks had 13. It takes a lot of juice out of Thanksgiving nights, Saints at Falcons game. Not to mention, Bears at Lions to start off the holiday. Couldn't you see the Falcons winning that game, even though it doesn't really matter. Really? No. They just won in New Orleans 26 to 9. They can't run the ball.

They can't, no. Just have to be invested in it. Right. They started a guy named Quadri Allison at running back. eight for 20. They're running backs had 17 carries for 34 yards. So it's Ryan trying to throw timing routes to Russell Gage and Calvin Ridley. And it wasn't quite enough.

Your enthusiasm cost me my lock streak of six straight. Wow. But that speaks to the power of the enthusiasm you had. It was so real. I'll never forget that, you know, eight-day stretch. Lock manifesto number two. Never listen to what anyone else is saying in this room. We don't know anything.

He should have stated at Mark. Right. There you go. You were on board with Mark. Lock me in a festo. Take ownership of your pathetic loss. Never bet on the Falcons. Let's move on.

That was, that felt like about seven hours, that recap. Next game. Talk about an alarm. The snap. Pressure come from behind. Matt hits him. Ballers out. Scooped up by Nick Williams inside the five-yard line of the New York Giants.

Kaleel Mac heard from. Bring them down with a sack. And the strip. His fifth horse. Bumble, and the Bears are in business. Jeff Joniak with the set a backhanded compliment or just a little shade at

Kille Mack? Heard from. Kleeleel Mack, who didn't even have a tackle last week on Sunday night football. He set up a touchdown today with a strip sack. Alan Robinson, season high 131 yards. Receiving, and the Bears beat the Morabund

Geman. 1914. 1914. If ever a game was destined to finish 1914 this was the game the matchup at its core 1914

and 1914 forever more let's move on so dumb so boring two bad teams just slugging it out over three and a half mostly terrible hours of football

So, yes, Khalil Mack makes an impact play. Mitchell Trubisky, not perfect, but at least showed some signs of life. He set a season high and passing yardage. He even, Wes, and this is something of all the confounding things about this bear season, that Mitch Trubisky, not the most gifted passer, but when you were trying to build him up as a guy, oh, he could be a franchise guy. He was great with his legs. And he stopped running this year as his confidence went to hell.

Well, he actually made some plays with his legs. scored a touchdown on the ground as well. So there's progress there, but still, you know. Well, I think he didn't want to get hit for a while. Right. When he's playing with the shoulder injury, he didn't want to get hit. So he was less, and you saw it even last week on that option play where he held onto the ball way too long.

Or, I mean, he gave it, he flipped it way too early. But I do think he's a good scrambler when he's healthy and willing to do it. Should do more of it. The Giants, meanwhile, are two and nine. That's seven straight losses. they've clinched their third losing season in a row. The game actually was a five-point game with four minutes to play. Golden Tate had a 23-yard touchdown catch on fourth and 18,

but that was it. So I don't know what else to tell you guys other than the Bears won, but are still not very good, and the Giants lost, and they are going to have a top five pick in the draft, and we'll see what they do with it. Right now, I think they're number two. They're number two. They are number two.

They are number two. They can draft a good defensive tackle with that pick. It is crazy that they are one of the worst franchises in football. You know, for a solid run here now. Over a three-year period, they're there with the Bengals and those type of teams. I keep searching high and low every week for, like, something to hang your hat on for next season with this Giants team and doesn't show up. What about, I mean, Jones, I think, has shown enough that you're excited to see what he's going to do? No. Excited would not be the right word for how Daniel Jones has played over the last two months.

Tigo and Barclay at another quiet game as well. All right, let's move on. Hopkins is ready. From 39 yards out, a 39-yard field goal for the lead. The ball is up, and Hopkins delivers. Hopkins delivers from 39 yards out to give the Redskins the 1916 lead with 16 seconds to go. That was Larry Michael of the Redskins Radio Network. Dustin Hopkins hit the go-ahead field goal 16 seconds to play.

minutes later, Quentin Dunbar, followed with a game-stilling interception. 1916s Redskins over the flatlining lions who, you know, don't worry, America. They're all yours on Thanksgiving. Greg, what did you learn? Tradition. Well, if you thought the Bucks Falcons recap was long, wait till the seven and a half minutes soliloquy I've got about Jeff Drizzie and Bo Scarborough going up and down the field. Big Driz.

Oh, wow, or they robbed. They had a lot more yards than the Redskins, but they lost the. the game. That's just how football is sometimes. You give up a kick return touchdown. Matt Prater misses a couple field goals. And suddenly, you've set up Dwayne Haskins to have his best two drives of the game to his credit in the fourth quarter in a row to set up back-to-back field goals and felt like a weight off of his back. He was very excited to win this game in just so excited. He took a selfie, you know, with two seconds left and they had to have Casey. Keenham, you know, kneeled down.

I love that. I was talking about the... No, oh, stop it. It's over. Mark my words, it's over. That's the only thing you'll remember about this guy. That is ridiculous. That is ridiculous.

Mark my words. Ricky. That take is almost as absurd as what he did. A selfie with a fan? It has been foretold. In his defense, the Lions took over in a game that was, you know, all but over with eight seconds to go. and yeah, and they had one play,

and Jeff Driscoll threw an interception on that play, which he did a lot at the end of this game. And so there was still two seconds left, and yeah, they couldn't get Haskins. I mean, come on. I'm more interested that he made some big plays to win the game. It is an embarrassment. I'm sorry.

And it doesn't mean that this victory is not a nice moment in his career, and it's nice to see Washington give their home fans something to cheer about, but that's a disgrace. It's also the top headline right now at ESPN. Right. I feel like that's saying more about us that that's like that big of a deal. No, it's not. It's, it's, come on. That's just funny though. It's just funny. It's funny not a disgrace.

That's a kid's heads in the cloud that needs more guidance. It just can't happen. And this isn't some hot take on FS1 in the morning. It's just keeping it real here. That's, you know, a bad organization and something bad happening at the end of a otherwise happy ending to a game. Terrible. Well, yeah. Terrible. It's a ridiculous thing for him. to do, but it is a, it is a hot take by you to say that, like, mark my words, he'll never have a career. I'm joking about that.

Although, I might be right about it, too. That was a joke. But I stand by that that is just, oh, that is such a bad look. It's awful. Yes. It's silly and it's stupid. And it would never happen with a better-run organization. Because he'd know better than to be with the fans taking selfies at the end of the game.

Highly disorganized. And that's what you're going to do if you're a highly disorganized team with very little direction. Imagine being his teammate. Imagine Belichick. Imagine what would happen. He'd probably be cut. It'll be over. Didn't they leave the field too early recently?

Oh, he left, whenever they lose. No, I'm saying that they thought the game was over and it wasn't. I think that happened. It was a very weird. It's the added layer of the selfie. Yes. Terry McLaurin, we should mention, is sometimes people talk about like quarterbacks. Okay, here's a rookie quarterback that took over for his team and carried them to a win.

That's a nice moment. Terry McLaurin put this team on his back. He got wide open for what should have been the game. game-winning touchdown to the drive before. Haskins missed him. It ends up being a tie. And then Jeff Driscoll, who looked determined, despite having a pretty good day before that, to just throw this game away through one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen

that was dropped, then through an interception the next play. And then through an interception on the last drive, too. McLaren gets an amazing catch to set up the game-winning field goal. It wasn't really a great Haskins throw, at least on that play, and it was all McLaren. And I wish the best of the kid. I hope he has a great career. But my goodness. Really, though?

Now you're rooting for your take. Of course you don't. She has a great career. Let's be real. I am not rooting for my take. I want him to have a good career. But let's not just, you know, toss it aside as something that doesn't speak to it,

a larger issue with the entire organization. Or our entire society, but fair enough. And a request for the Detroit Lions, please never enter a season with Drizzie as your backup quarterback again. He hasn't been the problem. Drizzy. The guy, he's not a good passer. Give Drizzy.

This is a franchise that only knows from Matt Castle as a backup quarterback. so you can't really blame them? I like them on the ground. Oh, yeah. All right, let's move on. Big line here. Here's Garapol. I've got a faking boot left.

He has Ritchie James Jr. there. Going to throw a deep shot. Wide open Sharks Kettle. 20, 10, 5. He is back. Touchdown. San Francisco. My goodness, what a play design.

How good does that feel? Feels great, baby, George. The great rock solid Greg Papa and Tim Ryan with the call 49ers Radio Network. Yes, after the Green Bay Packers put eight on the board and gave the game a little bit of a pulse in the second half. George Kittle and Jimmy Garoppolo combined to ice it with that 61-yard touchdown. Final score, 37 49ers. Packers, eight a total wipeout in a game that was. 10-0 after the first quarter,

23 Zip at the half, and it just never felt competitive. And Greg, that was not what we signed up for on Sunday. No, I think one of the most disappointing, if not the most disappointing prime time game of the year, and it reminded me so much of the Packers' last trip to the West Coast where they just didn't show up. They stayed out late again.

They were partying again in San Francisco. That narrative actually should look comforting in hindsight because it explained what happened to the two. charges, but now you're just, if you're a Packers fan looking at a team that's had the doors blown off them in two of their last three games, and that's big time concerning when it's the passing game that's a huge part of the problem. Aaron Rogers dropped back to pass 37 times tonight, and the Packers ended up with 81 yards. I mean, that is total domination from the best defense in the league, or the most talented

defense in the league, against someone that was an MVP candidate, at least before the Sessler, I got another one for you. Okay. Aaron Rogers threw the ball 33 times. He averaged 3.2 yards per attempt. But that is not Gabbard's zone. That is something ghastly that I don't remember seeing too often. 3.2 yards per attempt.

It's San Francisco's absolutely punishing defense that is playing really well. And I think it's a lack of big play options for Aaron Rogers. Like, ideally the Packers are a run-teacher's. team where Aaron Jones is so important to them and they had no way, there was no real big play way back into this game tonight. Taking into account quality of opponent and holding a first ballot Hall of Famer to the lowest yards per tempt of his entire career, it's the 49ers most impressive performance of the season. And it is a great timing for the performance. If there was anyone that kind of doubted them a little bit after the last couple of weeks, oh, you needed to step up

in the final minutes to beat the Cardinals at home last week. Oh, you got beat by the Seahawks. Maybe you're not that good. Well, guess what? They are that good. This is a great Niners team that at 10 and 1 in, like we said earlier in the show, this is a loaded NFC, and it's going to be a lot of fun to see how it all shakes out. But they, this is going to be a big one because what this does now, it takes the pack.

We're just talking straight up, number one seed. You could, to me, take the Packers out of the mix for a couple different reasons. But at 8 and 3, there are two games behind the 9. and they have the tiebreaker San Francisco. I would say this too. I mean, the Niners obviously have this stretch of the Packers tonight, the Ravens next week and the Saints after. Had you dropped this one tonight,

you could start to see the formation of a potential mini free fall that would drop the Niners out of that number one slot. Or even the two slot. Right? So this was just an absolutely, but it's not, they didn't just sneak out of here. They pounded them. And it leaves you with a lot of questions about Green Bay's ultimate journey.

And they can get healthier. They can get Matt Breed back. They can get Joe Staley back. I'm so impressed with the team that, you know, they get Akila Witherspoon back, and they can't even put them in the starting lineup because Emmanuel Mosley is playing so well at cornerback. They've had as many injuries as any team in the NFL,

and they might be the best team in the NFL. That's coaching. And Kyle Shanahan, the George Kittle touchdown we heard at the top of this, that is a coaching play. And there was a few great play calls by Kyle Shanahan where he gave his team a big-time edge, made life easy for his quarterback. and you did not see it.

Advantage Mike Lafleur, bad night, Matt Lafleur. The only thing... Mike Lafleur is the coordinator. Give him some love. The only thing saving the Packers from a free fall is they have the Giants, Redskins, and bears the next three weeks.

But this is an offense where that Raiders game in week seven, Romo is talking about how Aaron's getting really familiar with the system. He's complimenting LaFleur well. Like, conceptually, he's starting to understand everything. They're in this groove.

they'll get Devante Adams back and instead we see I think in the last three game stretch Aaron Rogers' kryptonite show up once again that holding the ball too long and waiting for the perfect play Well their defensive line the 49ers had another big night where they

dominated and Fred Warner has just been on absolute fire a couple game changing plays in the first half but a lot of this is on Rogers you know the fumble to start the game which started off things on such a bad foot was one of those plays where the blitz kind of confused him. He held the ball. And the bigger

problem was they got the ball back 13-0-0-0 down, late second quarter, 255 left, first down for the Packers. And they somehow went into halftime, down 23 to nothing. Two-three-in-outs where Devante Adams, there's a miscommunication. Rogers has a throw-off.

You give up a quick touchdown to the 49ers. Then you get the ball back with 50 seconds left. Another quick three-and-out that the 49ers take advantage of and it was over. I mean, once McLaughlin hit that kick, McLaughlin, Mark Sessler knew it. To go up 23-0-0, it was the biggest play of the night.

Then you come back in the third quarter and... Sessler treated that kick like it was vintetary to... It was beautiful. It was beautiful, and I thought it was very critical. But, you know, the Packers come back in the third quarter. I thought lacking some urgency. They do score and they get... It's 23 to 7, but it's this long, winding, eight-minute drive

where suddenly the third quarter was melting away, and then the kiddle thing happened and it lights out. Grappolo had the highest passer rating of his career. They both, both teams had 11 possessions. This is a telling stat. Niners just had 11 plays, 339, excuse me, they had 45 plays for 339 yards. The Packers, 70 plays and 11 possessions for 198 total yards.

I mean, it was just a crushing beat down by the Niners. And we'll see how the Packers, we talked about it on Thursday. they were set up so if they could go into San Francisco and win, their schedule softened up enough where they looked like they would have been lined up to get that one or two seed. Now they're going to be scrambling because they're in a tough spot.

But good on the Niners and people are talking up the big bell bottom as a building that's jumping? That joint's jumping now. They've had some energy this season. I mean, as they should, they've got a nice season for them. It's been a nice season for them.

Overachieving 10 and one star-powered team. They better be jumping. Helts to happier starting quarterback, you know, back in the fold this season, playing awesome and not being 4 and 12. I mean, that can wake up things like the big bell bottom in life. Okay, a reminder that this video show, you could find it on YouTube or NFL.com. Erica, two things, real quick before we say goodbye. Yeah.

One, as the show is taping, breaking news, allegations of improper relationship for Justin Tick Lake, your hero. I was hoping you weren't going to bring this up. Is he stepping out on Jessica Beal? You tweeted about it. multiple times. Well, I just don't know how I can defend it. Some photos in the big easy. I don't know what, you know, more information needs to come out before I can make an educated

opinion on it. It is my educated opinion to someone who follows these matters that the culture vultures out there have been looking to kind of rid themselves of Justin Timberlake. They just want to, they're done with Justin Timberlake. Certain people in the pop culture. Quote text from Dan. They've been looking to cancel him for a year. Yes.

The pop culture cognizantial. Cognizente. Matt Money Smith told me that the G is silent. It's Cognacente. I don't care. I like Cognacente better. What? What? Yeah, it's garbage. Pop culture Cognacente are looking to get rid of him. If he cheated on Beal, okay? After he, you know, rode that Britney being unfaithful to him to top of the charts, they'll, they're sending him out. He is out of the picture. Never root for the vultures. He'll never have another hit album again. if that's the truth. So just live with that, Arka, try to sleep on that. That's the stakes here.

The case is still, you know, pending. We don't have, okay, just, I said if. I said if. I mean, it's important to say that. Quoted an onlooker.

How much more reliable could the story be? Yeah, but there are photos and videos and pictures and Ryan Bartlett here brought it to my attention. Yeah, her hands like draped on his inner thigh,

like, but they're at a bar and he's very intoxicated, but they're co-stars. She might just be flirting with him. That doesn't mean that they're doing something off. Wow. The ATN media. media insider's got something on this too.

Spotted without a wedding ring. He was? No. Triple source. Also up in the air, whether he could have a hit album, whether they find them guilty or not. Greg, you shut your mouth. Man in the woods. Not well received.

Not his best work. Not well received. And we're kind of out of time, Ricky, but I also want to remind everybody that Erica pointed out weeks ago, Dwayne Haskins, what a disgrace, the selfie incident, the Combine incident. There was, remember I told you boys about how I was sick with the flu at the airport and I was, you know, waiting for my flight and had 105 fever and I look. And it wasn't a fever dream. It was Dwayne Haskins with his backpack, which was very, very expensive. Louis Vuitton. Yes, I looked it up. It was like 20K. And he went into the family bathroom, one stall where there were like mothers and children waiting. And he was in there for over 21 minutes. I timed it. Well, let's leave it there. I mean, what else?

That's a... Trouling time of possession there, and that's a... Well said, Greg. All right. Thank you, Ricky. Hang in there. Thanks, Dan. Hang in there.

There was no ring. Let's go. Bartlett's like, what? I'm still doing this? Stan Hansa signing off for Quiet Storm. The mailman, the old boss. Rick, Hollywood, behind the glass. Till Tuesday.

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