NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2019 Week 3 Recap

Episode Date: September 23, 2019

A room filled with heroes- Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap every game of week 3 including the highly anticipated Ravens Chiefs game (02:23), Matt "the flowers" third win in a row (23:24) and the beginning of the Daniel Jones era. (44:18). Oh, sunday night sad emoji. (1:15:28)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys. Hey, Dan. What a day. What a day. Chris Wessling was just commenting on the way up here, how the football was superior on Sunday of week three. Superior to Week 2, yes.

So okay on balance, but much better than the sloppy play of Week 2 of the NFL. And the sloppy officiating of Week 2. You went through a lot on Game Pass last week. I could tell it took something out of you. It took, yeah, it really increased my sleep. Put me to sleep all last week. I'm falling asleep because it is 89 degrees in the studio today. They actually turned the heat up from Thursday show.

So this is about survival this episode of the Around the NFL podcast. Also, pulling back the curtain a little bit, this is a first in the history of the show, and we've done about 1,000 episodes. the Cleveland Browns are playing on Sunday night football as we go through these games. And Mark, how are you doing? I mean, number one, let's start it right here.

I'm a raging professional. My focus is on the show and interacting with you about... My empathy is helping me. That too. That too. You know, my eye will turn towards the game when we're finished with our jobs here. Our jobs are the primary responsibility.

I'm really impressed by that answer. Really impressed. It's mostly true. But you're also part of the ramily now. You've locked up the Rams and you're rooting for the fighting Jared Goffs. It's a complicated look into Mark's soul this game. So that will be going on as we go through every game that was played in Sunday of week three. You guys want to get into it?

I kind of stacked it at the top of the show in order of all the undefeated teams. So we're going to go through all the teams that are entering week three or entered week three at 2 and 0. and see how they fare. Let's get going with the marquee matchup of 2-0 teams, the Baltimore Ravens at Arrowhead against the Chiefs. Mahomes, right foot in front of the left. Mahomes, pump faking, is going to throw a screen right. Darrell Williams of the block.

He's at the 40-45 and midfield first down, Kansas City. Goodbye Baltimore Ravens. Goodbye at 139 to go in the game. A screen pass of 16 yards dialed up by Big Red, and executed perfectly by the NFL MVP, Patrick Mahomes. Mitch Holtz, of the Chiefs Radio Network with the call. It was his version of the Hayes in the Barn. Go home, Baltimore Ravens, because you just got banged.

Patrick Mahomes, iced the game with that completion to Darrell Williams. Daryl. Daryl Williams, the final pass in another brilliant afternoon for the reigning MVP, who threw for 3.74 and three touchdowns and a 33-28 win over the Ravens, who fall to two and one. Chiefs now 3 and O, and their quarterback might actually be better than he was a year ago.

Think about that. One of the best seasons of all time, and Mahomes is just playing the game at a level that no one else is sniffing. The Ravens, Greg, the Ravens get a lollipop here. I know you were watching this game in the cubicle I could hear you, Heming and Hawn and honking about your boy Lamar.

I don't care what the draft or the assignment says. I'm watching Lamar versus at Mahomes. You've made that evidently clear to him. You're the bad boy of NFL media. The Ravens get a lollipop for hanging around in this game. But it never really felt in doubt. This was another day for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs who keep rolling. I'm taking that lollipop away.

They were lucky to have the final score be this close. The defense, which talked a good game before this matchup in terms of Earl Thomas saying they weren't going to give up big plays, really didn't provide much resistance. Earl Thomas was victimized on a play where you could see Andy Reid saw a tendency where Earl Thomas was going to jump a route of Sammy Watkins in the slot. They went over the top for Michael Hardman for 83 yards. There was no pass rush. I felt like more than any game, obviously this season,

you could really see them missing Terrell Suggs and Zadarius Smith because Patrick Mahomes had all day back there. Even though he didn't have his left tackle, he had plenty of time. And I felt like they could have put up a 40 burger or more if things had gone a little differently. I mean, it's 9.6 yards per pass from. of Holmes. And you mentioned, like, how he has improved markedly, visibly on the field.

And we mentioned on Sky Sports that they talked all offseason. Now he's more comfortable in the offense. And a lot of times I read that stuff and I say, I don't, I simply don't really care about those kind of assessments in, you know, mid-July or late June. But he looks that much more at home. And they don't, like, Tyree Kill is not in the lineup. Right. You can't even tell the difference. They have an absolute embarrassment of big play weapons. By the end of last year it was a one-horse race for MVP, and I think he's widened the gap between first and second place in the first three games this year. The difference is there was some anticipation throws on third down where he's letting go the ball well before the receiver makes his break.

There was just recognition of where the blitzes were coming from, where he just knew where his hot read was and they just had solutions. But the thing I really like today was he was getting on his offensive lineman. He got on Big Red Andy Reed for blowing the clock situation, it to be fixed. He just seems like he has such command that he's not afraid now to call some people out. And he is just like a master of what is happening. And the Ravens, I think they could have played this game 10 times. And the Ravens just weren't up to snuff to compete in this one. They were missing. Eric Fisher, their left tackle. Tyree Kill, as we mentioned, Damien Williams, they're starting running back. And it just doesn't seem to matter.

LaShawn McCoy sat out the fourth quarter with his injury. He re-injured his ankle. Hmm. And on the other side of the ball, this is the first game. And you knew this game would eventually come. And there's no reason to look too much into it and see it as a major issue going forward. But Lamar Jackson for three quarters, kind of looked like the Lamar Jackson, who struggled at times during his rookie year, missing on passes, maybe not seeing the field the way you need him to, certainly to stay in a game against the Chiefs. Greg. They, he missed a lot of deep throws. I mean, there were opportunities to stay in this game. I don't think it was an incredible Chiefs defensive performance. I can think a three or four down the field where he had open receivers. He missed it. I think it was three for 12 on throws over 20 yards.

So they were daring him to go deep. The running game was good. Ingram was amazing. Lamar ended up getting some good runs in the second half. Gus Edwards did pretty well, but he just didn't deliver. I think it's the toughest stadium to go into and play in the league right now. and I don't worry about the Ravens at all because I just think that they're still so well put together

and Ingram, to your point, it was the perfect free agent for this team and he's fit in so, he could have gone somewhere else and we wouldn't be talking about him week to week. He fits perfectly on the Ravens and I think they'll bounce back big time from this and they'll probably meet again.

My dog, Mark with a C. Earl Thomas said that. He expects them to meet again after the game. The only thing in this AFC though, where it looks awfully similar to last year in the beginning, you know, those losses for the Chiefs and the Patriots, there might not be that many of them. So they're already, if you're a Chiefs fan, you're already thinking about getting a buy in the playoffs. Before we move on, I want to call attention to one other aspect of the

game that I found very interesting. John Harbaugh coached an ultra-aggressive game. One of the more aggressively coached games I've ever seen. And I don't necessarily mean that as a compliment. I find it, you know, I find it, you know, I find it, you know, hanging the onions that way. That's respectable. But they went for it on fourth down four times. and they went three for four in that situation. They attempted three two-point conversions, failed all three. And it's a five-point loss, and it makes you wonder, it felt to me that he was somehow trusted his offense too much

and maybe not enough at the same time. Here's the comments from Harbaugh, because the reporters were questioning his strategy after the game. And we had a mindset that we were going to come in and we were going to try to score as many points as we could. So that's what we try to do, you know. I know we all felt the same way. You know, Lamar felt the same way we all did.

We're going to keep playing that way, just for the record. So when you write your article, just understand that. We'll disagree with your criticisms. You know, we're going after it. That's the way we're going to play all year. Wes, that's the Mahomes effect. It is. You're psyched out a little bit, knowing that you have to keep up with the Chiefs.

And they did. They had to keep up. Right. They forced two puns. The Chief scored seven out of nine trips that didn't end the game. So he was right. They had to score. like the aggressiveness. I mean, it's not always going to work to a tea. It was pretty wild.

That's one of the best coaches in the league. We've been saying that for a long time. All right, another undefeated team. They reside in western New York. To Orchard Park, we go. And Alan's ready to go. Out of the gun. Again, three receivers lined up right side. There's the snap. Josh looks left, fires left, got a man wide open. It is caught by Gawson Knox out of midfield. On the run, gets past one man, trying to get past another man, bulls him down, and he has finally knocked out of bounds at the Cincinnati 24-yard line. Dawson Knox,

running after the catch, knocking down Bengals along the way. What a huge play that was. John Murphy, Bill's Radio Network with the call. Yes, tight-end Dawson Knox, took a Josh Allen pass and turned into an evolutionary grunk. His 49-yard catch-and-run set up a Frank Gore touchdown. That was the difference in a 21-17 win over the Bengals

in Rowdy Orchard Park. The victory moves the bills to 3-0, sets them up for a huge week four showdown against the undefeated Patriots. Mark, consider this bill's comeback another leap forward for Josh Allen, right? Absolutely. I mean, they're not a fluke. You know, you get some of these teams that roll to these early, nice records, and you have to look a little deeper and wonder what they really are. But the bills, though, are not is an explosive big play offense. They had 15 first downs before the Bengals had their first, and it looked that way,

but they had a lead of 16-0. I mean, they're going to need to find a way to pile up points and find some more explosion. I still think John Brown, Cole Beasley, were perfect fits for Josh Allen. Josh Allen is going to continue to push the ball downfield. He made a bad, or say it a bad pick in this game. But they were patient enough to wait for the Bengals to make a killer mistake of their own with a Dalton interception.

But they, to me with Buffalo, I give them a shot against them, England. I really do because of their defense. They just, they're going to hang around with teams that are superior to them because of what they can do on defense. They make, like, very uncomfortable for Cincinnati's attack. The step forward for the Josh Allen experience came with five minutes to go in the fourth quarter. So the Buffalo had a 14-zip lead in this game, and Cincinnati scored 17 unanswered, and that was set up perfect.

We've talked about it in real time, Mark, down in the newsroom. Here's Josh Allen, takes over. He has plenty of time. They had timeouts, and what he has to do now is show us that he can go get the lead back. And, Wes, he did it with ease. They marched down the field and scored. You still don't know what you're getting week to week from Josh Allen. And that's, to me, that's the reason why the Patriots are going to be the heavy favorites next week.

Mark's right that their defense, the Bill's defense gives them a chance. And when they did finally take the lead, this is when, you know, Dan was saying this is a great progress check for Josh Allen, and then they took the lead, and Mark said, let's see if Andy Dalton has anything in his human body at this point. You really thought it was like, after years, Andy Dalton, please show me something with the game on the line. Yeah, and he threw an interception when, you know what, it's, to me, you go 0 and 3. You look, we're talking about AFC teams in the Ravens and the Patriots and the Chiefs who are looking simply unstoppable. And the Bengals have had as bad of a start to the season, as they could have imagined, after I thought a really frisky performance in

week one, they had a chance to win this game, and all would have required was the offense to do their part, and they couldn't. It's a tough ask against Buffalo's defense, but for me, I just want to see a few more. Like Dawson Knox, they've compared him to Jeremy Shockey. He is an interesting player. I don't know if I'd call him Jeremy Shockey. Off the field as well? Not sure about the off the field elements, but Josh Allen did respond. Hey, that's game winning touchdown in a Super Bowl, Jeremy Shockey for you. Get slept on sometimes. I like this build. They're fine. Like, it's just, the league needs more, even if they're not a Super Bowl-type team, it's impossible not to enjoy how well they're coached and how they've lived up to any sort of off-season.

They were getting a little buzz in the off-season, and they could have gone one and two, and we'd forget about them. It's the opposite. I just want to know what Andy Dalton did to poor Mark. I mean, what he said on air is very professional, just like he said going into this show. But the invective sent towards Dalton about the status and, you know, it was a bad. I felt bad for this family. Well, it's just the same old story from Andy Dalton. Bengals fans can come at me.

They're all upset that we're too negative about them, but it's the same narrative over and over. Don't you know who he is, though? It's a different narrative. So to the Bengals. And so this is who you've invested, and you're going to get these games. You're missing your offensive linemen.

There's a lot good. We do know who he is. And they're number one receiver. He's good enough at this time last year, we were talking about how he won three straight, fourth quarter comebacks, and that's why they started three and one. He was super clutch.

Because he had a good team around. There's little pockets like that from Andy Dalton, but it's just, I don't know how, if I had Holly Hobby at backup, I might throw her in to see what could happen in a game. Just maybe something different. All right, let's, I don't know who that is. Who's Holly Hobby?

It's like a child's doll. Oh. Typically a girl's doll. A boy could have the doll too, from what I understand. I don't know why you're making eye contact with me. I don't know. Did you have a Holly Hobby doll? I did not.

Is that a real thing? I don't know if it's still around, is it? I mean, it was, it was a thriving. article a toy back in the day Jeremy Shockey the touchdown for the Saints was it with the Saints Yes that was he they had to go ahead touchdown he had to go ahead touchdown when they beat the Colts

Okay thank you very much All right we mentioned the New England Patriots Who have the big matchup against the bills But first they had to take care of business Against a downtrodden AFC East quote unquote rival On to the throne of sleaze Michelle the single bat first in 10 from the 25 The ball on the right hash, Ezzo, motion tight.

It's hot in here. It's right in the under center. Hurons with a playoff to Michelle. Quick to go down with a wide open door, set at the 10, right to the five. Scooting in for the score. Touchdown, Patriots! That's Bob Sochi of the Patriots Radio Network. We don't need to hear from you, Zolak, this week.

Zolak, what a disgrace last week. Oh, hey kid, hey kid, Antonio Brown. Welcome to the neighborhood, kid. Grow up. Tom Brady threw a pair of touchdown passes, including that connection with Philip Dorset, and the Pats didn't allow an offensive touchdown for the third straight week in a 3014 win over the hapless New York football jets. It was business as usual for the Patriots who rolled to 3-0.

Two days after their misguided, uncouth, Antonio Brown experiment ended with the wide receiver's release. As expected, this wasn't much of a game. You even give the Jets credit for at least keeping it from turning into a disaster, at least their defense. The Jets' offense is as lost as an offense can be right now. They had about 100 total yards in this game. Both their scores, one was on a muffed punt, and the other was a pick six by Jamal Adams.

I'm just happy Jamal Adams had something to be happy about. That's where I'm at right now. They go into their buy at 0 and 3 and hope to have Sam Darnold back in week five against the Eagles where they can kind of regroup. As for the Patriots, Very much business as usual. They are limited right now on offense a little bit

because they have the injuries on the offensive line. As we said, Antonio Brown is no longer in the picture. Julian Edelman leaves this game with a chest injury. I believe they did tests and it's not believed. It sounds like he's going to be okay. Anything too serious. But that's where they are right now. They didn't really move the ball too well on the ground.

Brady started off red hot, cooled off as things went along. but at that point the game was already well in hand. So the Patriots take care of business. They're going to evolve. Right now, they're much different than last year where I think Brady is playing lights out and the rest of the offense isn't quite there yet. But he's played this three-game stretch, I think, was better.

And certainly the schedule has helped, but better than any three-game stretch of his personal performance during last regular season. They also gave up 105 yards in this game, which was the lowest in the Bill Belichick era. So their defense, it'll be fun to watch them against them. You know, they're going to play much better competition. But right now, Jamie Collins has been such a huge addition for what they do.

I mean, a year ago, Jamie Collins, whispers were that he was not even trying playing for the Browns. So I don't know, obviously they flipped the switch on him, big surprise. But they're up 200 yards to 8 heading into the second quarter against the Jets. And, you know, it's easy to pile on the Jets. But it's the kind of season with the way that it's going right now that, yes, I realize, I realize you don't have Darnold in there but it's been about as concerning a six-day stretch as you could imagine for a team

and with the way depending on this plays out I wonder if Adam Gase gets a second season unless they start to do what you'd think that they hired him to do I mean the offense is devolving and you worry about a guy like Levion Bell just getting over you

I know I'm not trying to pile on but I mean Dan am I wrong I feel I believe that it couldn't have gone worse obviously the first three games of the season. However, he's not all to blame the offensive line, which he didn't put together, has been worse than expected. They started their third starting quarterback in three weeks. Luke Falk is not an NFL player.

And if you go to New England, the best defense in the league with a quarterback that's not an NFL quarterback, there's no way you're going to move the ball. That's what happened. Now, I don't want to let gase off the hook because in addition to the offensive line being wretched and the quarterback position being a travesty and a horrible situation for the franchise,

the play calling's been bad. But I don't know how much to put into that because what are you supposed to do when you have this type of setup? So basically you hit the dynamite, you push down on the lever, everything explodes. Your season as a contender, quote unquote, is over.

You hope to get Darnold back. And then I really think Gase gets a chance to say, I'm not a joke, I'm not the problem here. But I think the pressure is on him as soon as they get out of this by to show something on offense and getting Darnold back would be a big lift toward that goal. Patriots opponents are 0 and 9 this year. Right.

I don't think they've been tested for two straight weeks. You can't take anything really out of these games. I've been really disheartened by Bill Belichick, and I've lost so much respect for him in the last two or three weeks. The guy whose mantra is, do your job, treats these press conferences and interviews like a child, like an absolute child who will not take any responsibility who will not answer why they signed Antonio Brown

will not answer why they released Antonio Brown just handles it like an absolute child having a fit and you won't explain why you did this I just I have no respect left for him yeah the interview I think probably that setting off with Dana Jacobson before the game it was tough to watch him staring her down the timing of the release you know

They clearly made a smart move to get rid of them based on, you know, what's happened even since he joined the team. I believe the leak, which was self-serving, that they did not know the allegations that were about to happen one day after they signed them. Because, of course, you would not sign a person and give him that sort of money a day before that's going to drop. But the process they went through after that fact to have him active last week was really strange. sound like the text or the DMs that Brown sent to his accuser of the Bobby Clemco story. Great journalism by Robert Clemco was basically what got him cut from the Patriots because that happened when he was on. It was a little gross just to see everyone from Tom Brady on, cozy up to him the way they did

after they knew what was out there. And there are a lot of Patriots fans who I'm sure you've heard the same are glad he's not on the team anymore. I don't think everyone can be put in the same bundle. Of course. I would assume most are relieved. I mean, and it's not like... Bobby Clampco said journalists is just doing his job is also getting doxed on the internet for what it's worth

for outing Brown for his creep behavior. And by the way, put Philip Dorset on the field. This guy gets better each and every week. You don't need Antonio Brown. The thing with Belichick with the press conferences, the Jacobson thing was just uncalled for, and I don't know what he was going for there. But the fact that he walked off from his last press press conference

that came shortly before the release, It's as if he believed that because he's Bill Betelcheck and because they're the Patriots, he wouldn't have to be answering these type of questions, which should have been a foregone conclusion. If you bring this man into your building, that becomes part of your experience as head coach and your organization. It almost felt like he thought he was above that, but you weren't, Bill. Do your job.

Which is, I think, one of the reasons they cut him is him having to deal with that. The Patriots are okay. They're a great team. They're three and O. They're steaming towards January again. But this was not a good luck for the organization. care if they didn't get, they don't get hitting the wallet on it. It looks like they'll be able to get out of the contract and they'll move on because they're so good at moving on.

But this, I believe, was a black guy. And one quick thing, I mean, Belichick gets too much of a free pass for treating the media this way. Because if another coach who hadn't won as much as he had treated reporters this way, it would be a major story. I mean, you can't get away with that dismissive behavior. But because it's Bill Belichick, it's part of, it's baked into his charm, I guess, to some, that he dismisses the press this way. It's a joke. to most. It's not, though. And on the Antonio Brown front, he then fires off an array of tweets on Sunday morning,

taking shots at a bunch of people, including Robert Kraft, a reference to his prostitution arrest, also Ben Rothelzberger's past issues with women, basically hitting out and then challenging, I guess, the Players Association to fight for me because the teams shouldn't be able to take away my guaranteed money. Well, nobody's playing the violin for you. No. And then deleted them. Business ain't booming.

Because his agent probably is like, you are taking money out of it. No one would be screen capturing those tweets. You're fine by tweeting but deleting them. All right. Let us move on another undefeated team, the Green Bay Packers. Slot to the left side. They stacked those two receivers. Devante, the tail of the tandem.

From the 40, jumping into the neutral zone. Rogers has a free player so it appears. Rainbows deep down the middle. Mark, Wes Valdes, Stanley. Touchdown. Green Bay, 40-yard bomb, Marquezveldes, Gambling. The great Wayne Larravee for the Packers Radio Network with a call. Aaron Rogers doing Aaron Rogers things.

Rogers drew the Broncos off-sides, then delivered a 40-yard touchdown strike to MVS, the 2019 breakout candidate. The Packers, a 27 to 16 win at Lambo. Green Bay moves to 3-0 under rookie head coach Matt Lefleur. Matt the Flower, do we call him? I do. I don't demand that you. you do, but I'm glad that you are. I like it. The Broncos fall to 0 and 3 under their

rookie head coach. I don't need help with this one. McFagio. Wes, give us a progress update on the Packers' offense three weeks in and three victories in. Packers' offense is still feast or famine. It really depends just as it has the last couple of years, whether Aaron Rogers is hitting these big plays or just missing these big plays. This was a dominant ball control attack for the Broncos. Dominated time of possession. But when you play that, that style to try to keep the Packers off the field, you can't turn it over three times. And Noah Fant, the rookie tight end, who looks like he's going to have a really good career, has been one of the most mistake-prone players in the NFL for the first three weeks of the season.

He had a really bad fumble in which Jaira Alexander stripped the ball. And speaking of Alexander, the story of this game is the Packers' defense, specifically the off-season that Brian Gutikas had, the draft that he had last year, taking Jaya Exound Alexander in the first round. This year he comes back with Rishon Gary, who got his first career sack and also had a fumble recovery. Darnel Savage, who we've pointed out, has been great so far. He had a diving interception in this game. Preston Smith and Zadarius Smith combined for five sacks today. What?

They're big free agent acquisitions. Gooty! Gooty! He's having like that Bruce Ariens out in the parking lot. Let's get the pickup truck out and beers and let's just celebrate. He's doing like the Michael Jordan's shoulder shrug as he walks to the office. That's amazing. Wow.

36 rushes for the Broncos running back. Oh, yeah. Philip Lindsay, if you ever like... Goodie. All right. Philip Lindsay's best game of the year. Royce Freeman lost an 18-yard touchdown

to a bad holding penalty on Emmanuel Sanders. Just a really bad call by the reps on that one. took a touchdown off the board, and then Flacco ultimately got sacked on third down in that series. Flacco, you know, I don't think he was the primary problem. This game, the concentration should be on their defense, not on their offense. They don't have a sack or a takeaway in three games. They do not.

Shaq Barrett has eight sacks. He was on the roster last year. This team has zero. They almost had a Goldston today, and it was one QB hit for the whole team. And the last two weeks, everyone's saying, well, the quarterback's getting the ball out of their hands quickly. That's not happening when it's Aaron Rogers. The pastor just for whatever reason isn't getting there. But you know what did get there, that Goody music.

I mean, just the tip to the guys and girls out there. Like, if you're significant other, you know, if you're trying to get them in the mood, just kind of things aren't going, well, put this on and just watch the magic flag. And this is Brian Goody Cuts, by the way. Yes, yes. Well, before he got into football, this was his trade. who's a hardcore German rapper. If I'm a Broncos fan, I don't know.

Maybe. Well, talk to Wes. Maybe turn this experience off and check back in in 2020. I don't need 13 more games of Joe Flack. I know it's not all Joe Flacco's issues, but there's just an, I can't imagine you can't drop a more uninspiring scenario to the season. To your point, your criticism or the idea that Adam Gaze should be criticized, which I think is totally fair, isn't Fangio the defensive version of it?

that. This guy has a well-earned reputation as a defensive mastermind. The fact that he would take over as a head coach, and Greg, you mentioned a couple weeks ago the difference between going from upstairs to down on the sideline and how that changes a lot about how you do your job on game days. Maybe that'll be a story coming up. I mean, this, to have no sacks to be this ineffective on defense. With that talent. You can imagine how frustrating is. The margin for error is so small you know they did move the ball much better than the bears last week and they lost in that killer fashion they did move the ball and hold it much better than the packers on the road but and they move the ball in the second half better than the raiders in the season opener they have

looked good for spurts but not overall and what did emmanuel sanders say after the game we're in a world of suck right now oh my goodness ah let's move on i'm gonna world a pain of the heat in the studio it is uncomfortable but we are forging on we are a 13 billion dollar company. I mean, it doesn't help it if you're off camera. Let's go to the next game. You know, off camera, there is like asbestos falling from the ceiling on us, too. So I'm not even sure we're going to get to the end of this.

13 billion. The next game, please. The second down eight at the Miami 19 in the gun. Elliot goes out in the pattern to the right and he throws it down to the goal line. A perfect strike to Amari Cooper. Touchdown Cooper. The fans yell coup. Two touchdowns today for Amari Cooper.

and that was a perfect 19-yard strike from Prescott, 19 to 19. We've heard a lot from him early on this season. He's Brad Sham, the sham god of KRLD. Dak Prescott threw two touchdown passes to Amari Cooper. He also ran for a score, and the Cowboys, they righted themselves after a sluggish start, knocking off the dolphins, 31 to 6. Mark, if Miami executes better in this game, we might actually have something approaching an athletic,

contest in the second half, but they did not execute. And, you know, the desert people who set that really big number, they were right. I think Dak Prescott has raised the bar on his own performance that what we saw today, people were panicking a little bit and concerned about where he was at halftime. But a year ago, it would have been sort of every game we expect from Dak Prescott. They were fine. I think, you know, Miami's going to not lose every single contest 50 to nothing. The Cowboys were a little sluggish, but they had 200-yard rushers in this game and dominated by the end. Wouldn't be a concern if I'm Dallas overall. To me, you just, I don't know what to take from these Dolphins games. How do you self-scout when you go out and win 31 to

six? It was not Dallas's best performance by any stretch of the imagination. They won by 25. It's an NFL game. Similar to Jets and Pats, like, did the Cowboys come out of this game healthy? They got the win. We knew that was going to happen. Are they okay? Health-wise, as they move forward. Yeah, I think they're fine. I mean, they took care of business. I don't know. The dolphins, to me, we've already discussed them at length,

but I don't know how you keep this locker room engaged because we're trying, they had the sunniest half they've had all year, they were down 10 to 6 after two quarters. Right, they were up on the Cowboys about 50 total yards. They had 210 yards. Josh Rosen did give them a spark, it sounds like, in the first half. Yeah.

And then Kenyon Drake fumbled inside the 10, right as the first half was ending, and then that would seem. to be it. Let's put this tank job in perspective. Since 1950, more than half the NFL teams have been added to the league starting from scratch as expansion teams. Since 1950, no defense has allowed more than 133 points that the Dolphins have allowed in the first three games of the season. Since 1950, no team has had a worse point differential than the Dolphins minus 117. Since 1950, only one team has had a worse yards differential than the dolphins minus 831, and the top four of that

list is three expansion teams and the 2019 Miami Dolphins. This is worse than an expansion team. Can't happen. Didn't have to be. The Dallas running game, Zeke, who still seems to be getting warmed up, 19 for 125. Tony Pollard, this guy can play 13 for 103 in a touch. They had 235 yards on the ground. I think that's great for them. I mean, we could see Tony Pollard in the preseason looking like a special player and someone that was going to have a role. And I love how they're using him.

He had 13 carries today. Elliot had 19. They got playmakers coming out of their ears. Let us move up. Five seconds on the play clock. Quick snap. The Robidl throws end zone. It is caught by Dante Pettis.

Touchdown! San Francisco. What was that? Frank Papa, the Papa there. And that was Tim Ryan. Cackle. Just cackling in happiness and confusion. 49ers Radio Network, Jimmy G.

threw a five-yard touchdown pass. Tedante Pettis with 115 to play. And the Niners overcame five turnovers, including, I believe, three in their red zone in the red zone, to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers 24 to 20. For the Niners, it is their first 3-0 start in 21 years. And for the Steelers, their 0-and-3. And talked about it on Thursday's show.

This felt like the type of game that Pittsburgh circles the wagons, as they say, in the Mike Tomlin era and finds a way to win. And Chris Wessling, let me set you up on this one. Because you had a good point. on Twitter. First of all, good job with the good point. It happens something. I'm not sure what it is yet.

On Twitter. Way to go. When they traded for Minka Fitzpatrick, who, by the way, had a big role in this game. He had an interception. I believe he forced to fumble as well. It led to a lot of discussion about how many first and high round picks on defense the Steelers have. And Keith Butler, their defensive coordinator, you pointed out, hey, Keith, better make this work now. Well, twice, after a slow start by Mason Rudolph, in which he couldn't really get anything going on in the first half, and he looked lost.

He connects on a catch-and-run touchdown with Juju Smith-Schuster that covers about 90 yards. That puts him ahead, and immediately the Steelers defense coughs it up. Then Rudolph does it again. He takes the Steelers down the field, puts them back in the lead in the fourth quarter, and at that point, the Pittsburgh Steelers' defense needs to win that game and take it home, but they didn't. Jimmy G. And credit to the Niners go down the field and then 3 and O. And there's a lot of good reason for optimism in San Francisco. But that stunned me that Pittsburgh in a cornered animal game with their season on their

line could not find a way to take that game home. They have shown, the Steelers have shown flashes of dominance on defense this year for quarters at a time. But as Greg has pointed out, it's only for quarters at the time. And the second halves of games, you're not stopping anybody. And from what I've seen, it's mostly the secondary. I want to see how well Minka played. supposedly he was making big plays today,

but they're still allowing too many big plays on their defense. So I really want to see that, but you're right that they have way too much talent on this defense, and this is an organization that does not give up first-round picks. They will not have a first-round pick next year for the first time since 1968. Well, the pressure's on. You've got to win games or else that pick's going to be in the top five or six. I think Devin Bush and Mark Barron, who we talked about going into this game,

they struck. He has two fumble recover his day. They struggled and covered just in terms of the PFF score where big-time liability, again, Barron's kind of killing them. The story, though, just looking at this from afar, is that the 49ers do have a defense. And I know they're playing Mason Rudolph in a struggling offense, but the 49ers had the type of defense that would struggle against any offenses. And right now they've played three teams who aren't great on offense, the Bucks, the Bengals, and the Steelers. And you know what? They've shut them all down.

They gave up 239 yards today. They kept their team in it despite all the turnovers. is a big time change from a year ago. And, you know, of course they're going to lose. It's why they're three and oh. Right. It's why there's reason to believe they can stick around in this thing. They're neck and neck with the Packers for the most improved defense in the league.

You're not getting last year's James Connor right now at this point. No, you're not. One thing I noticed, and I know the Steelers, and they've seen this in the stretches where they haven't been dominant on defense this year. They got eaten up by the Niners ground game towards the end of this thing. They were just running right up through the belly of Pittsburgh defense. and that was concerning to watch. Well, that's got to be because the offense couldn't control the clock at all, right?

Not at all. So the defense is out there the whole game. And Connor had the turning point in the game after the Niners turned it over the fifth and final time on another fumble deep in Steelers territory. It looked like the Pittsburgh would have a chance to run out the clock or at least add on some insurance points and Connor coughs it up, which led to the final score. So, you know, Levy on Bell, that guy held on to the ball, and you miss him right now.

The Steelers miss him on. Well, they miss Antonio Brown, too, because you're not getting Smith-Schuster going off, you know, week after week. It's been the opposite. Well, I mean, the Big Ben's absence, I think, is going to put a cap on Smith-Schuster's ceiling. I mean, their own three, and that's it. They had to win this game, and they didn't win this game. Their offense hasn't looked good at any point, really, this year. They're pretty much done.

And that's it for that game. Let's keep moving. This could be the ball game. Urts has got it back on fourth and 15. Looks, pumps once, looks, pressure comes from behind. Now he throws deep down field. It is knocked away, incomplete. Big time defensive play by Rishon Melvin on a pass intended for J.J. Arthega, Whiteside.

And the Lions will take over on Downs, and this thing is over, baby. Execute three snaps and we out of here. Nice job, Dan Miller of Lions Radio and Eric. Although I must, I don't want to correct Dan, but I will. say that it wasn't so much of a great defensive play by the defensive back, but a drop, another killer drop when you watched it on replay.

Dan on Dan crime. J.J. Ortega, Whiteside, had the seventh and most crushing of drops for the Eagles on Sunday. He could not hold on to a beautifully thrown Carson Wentz downfield past. Would have put the Eagles

first and goal, essentially at the one yard line in the final minute of the game. Instead, it was dropped fourth down game over 27 24 the lions beat the eagles in philly so i and i don't want to um take anything away from the lions uh because they're undefeated how about that they they gagged away week one into a tie uh but then they found a way to beat a chargers team that shot itself in the foot and the eagles kind of did the same thing in this game but there's there's something to be said for a team that finds a way to take advantage of other team's mistakes.

And that's what Matt Patricia's team has done so far this year. So that is my takeaway on the Lions right now that I don't believe they are necessarily a good football team. And in my power rankings exercise, I do weekly. I got absolutely slaughtered by Lions fans for putting three NFC North teams in the top 10 and leaving the lines out of the conversation. I'm not going to have them zoom in into the top 10 this week either because I don't necessarily buy them.

But credit where credits do, you go to Phil. and beat an undermaned Eagles team. Well, you got the win, and you deserve some lollipops. I don't know if a team in the league has gotten not luckier, but more fortunate to play in a Chargers team last week, and the Eagles this week, about as banged up as they both could be. And the Eagles just simply don't have enough people on the field right now. That said, and I hear you while not sticking them in the top 10 or anything,

I love teams more than anything in September and October that change my longstanding perception of them. Now, they haven't entirely done that yet, the Lions, but they aren't boring. Get excited about the Lions. They aren't just handing away games. They, to me, have been the most boring team in the NFL since I've worked here in over the past 10 years. And I'm not saying they're lighting up America at this point. But if you're Matt Patricia, to be 2.0 at this stage, things could be a lot worse.

Yeah, they... Lighting up America. Here's a thing, though, when you start off, you know, maybe not lighting the world on fire, but you stack wins. They can get better, too. The Lions could be a much better team in December, especially defensively than they are right now. I think they're a better team defense than they are in terms of individual stars. They're not really getting standout players.

And the one thing that stands out to me is, I kind of like this Matthew Stafford better than the Jim Bob Cooter Matthew Stafford. This is the Matthew Stafford that's using his big arm to throw down the field. That's being a little more aggressive, can fire it in there. We like the Cooter. It helped him out for a little while, those time in throws. But after a while, it's like, you've got the biggest arm in the league. Let's see it, and we've seen it in the last few weeks.

This is a show your face team to me, the Lions. So they were dominant for three quarters in the opener against the Cardinals, then gave up, what, 27 points? That's not good. And then against the Chargers, the Chargers are rolling. And then two touchdowns get called back, a fumble at the goal line. The Lions got a lot of breaks in that game. A ton of kicks.

And as Mark pointed out, the injuries to the opponent. and then this week they play a really injured Eagles team. I haven't seen this game yet, but I really want the Lions. Are they going to be consistently good or just taking advantage of a bad team? That's the NFL, and it's kind of a boring point to make, but there's not that much separating most of these teams. The Broncos are not that far off from being two and one. So many of these teams, the Chargers and the Texans, who we'll talk about later,

all three of each of their games has come down to the last possession, and it's just a couple little things sometimes. It's the same for the Eagles, who, you know, the potential, game-winning catch falls to the ground last week. Same thing happens today. You now have a short week and have to go play the Packers in Green Bay on Thursday night. And this is a team. I thought the Eagles were going to start 5-1 or 6-0,

and you're staring down 1-3 if you don't take care of business in a tough ask in Green Bay. Yeah, they're getting killed with the timing here because they lost more players. Jason Peters came out of this game with an illness. The offensive line was missing multiple players. the fact that they don't have Alshan Jeffrey and Deshawn Jackson is showing up with all these drops. Carson Wentz. You love Carson. I love Carson Wentz.

And he played so great in this game. I loved how he played even though he was imperfect last week in the Lost of the Falcons. He deserved a much better fate in this game. And I'll call attention when you fire up your game pass, not you're condensed anymore, Mark. It's now what? It's asterisk game in 40. which, you know, it's a wonderful product. I think it is given some people a sense of liberty

just to do a nice, chunky 15, 20 seconds after the play ends. I like my editing on those games sparse and right down to the bone. I want those games to be about 31 minutes. I got too much other stuff going on in my life to be spending 40 plus minutes on these games. Do you? I mean, yes, there are other things I could be doing than watching, you know, some of these teams.

I understand your frustration about this. Some of these teams wander into watch list territory. Like, I'm going to bounce on you. Sorry. That reminds me, though. How was Hustlers? We didn't get the official review on the podcast. Great movie.

Well, now it was solid. It was solid. Well, he just blew up a spot. Give it a solid B minus. Yeah, that's not Oscar-worthy. Everyone's buzzing about Jay-Low's performance. Not a chance. No, I like J-Lo and a lot, but Oscar-worthy.

Right, no. Come on. There were multiple points in this game where the Eagles had a chance, and it seemed like they were going to just take over. none more so than late in the game, 153 to play. The Eagles block Matt Prater's 46-yard field goal try. They scoop it up, the Eagles do,

run it back to the 22 of the lions. And they're all set up. An illegal block on Jenkins pushes it back to midfield. It was a questionable illegal block. Check it out, Wes, on condensed in 40. A Darren Sproles, fourth and five, gets called back for OPI, and then, of course, Arthago Whiteside blows it.

So the Eagles are in a tough way And the Lions are undefeated As we will enter the last week of September Who would have guessed it? I want to see an NFL game Where the refs are not allowed to throw a single flag But the players don't know that the refs aren't allowed to throw it out Midway through the second quarter

I like this. Let's move on This will be a 44-yard field goal Or actually a 34-yard field goal To win the game for the box Pinyin the holder. Snap, spot. Kick on its way. And it's no good.

He missed it. Way missed the kick. And the Giants win their first game of the season. Bob Papa. WFAN with the call. Matt Gay blew it. Two Miss PATs and that chip shot field goal, allowing the Giants to escape with a third.

32-31 win over the Bucks. Terrible loss of the Bucks. Great comeback for the Giants. And the star and the story of this game is Danny Dimes. The rookie quarterback threw for 336 and two touchdowns also ran for two touchdowns, including the go-ahead score with 116 to play. The Giants came back from 18 down in this game. Wes, we've been waiting to see Danny Dimes play in games that matter.

Well, we got it today. thought he was impressive from the opening drive throughout. There was a bit of a lull, probably late second quarter, where the Giants weren't doing much. The Bucks went ahead 28 to 10 at halftime. And then Evan Engram, 75-yard touchdown on the first play of the second half, Daniel Jones is another 46-yard bomb. I believe on the next series, it sets up another touchdown. And before you know it, it's a 28, 25 game. And this came down to the end. Daniel Jones, Jones on that game, the go-ahead drive, just marching down the field, was decisive, confident, knew what to do.

And then, you know, the Prairie Land opened up on that touchdown run. I believe he's the first Giants quarterback ever with two rushing TDs and two passing TDs in a game. That's true. He also led them to their biggest comeback since 1970. Wow. He's now 1-0 and trailing by 18 or more points, Eli Manning. This is not a knock on Eli, but 0-44 in those games.

That's just how hard it is. to come back from 18 down. We now live... Take your victory lap, Wes. It's a nice world. Well, yeah. This is a nice world that we live in now where Wes has some palpable excitement

about the New York Giants. I've never experienced this at all from... I would compare it to this when I was going through chemotherapy and I couldn't hold anything down. There was one night where I was getting brave and I was like, Keisha's sleeping. I'm going to go try out some peanut butter crackers.

Like, that's going to be the best thing I've eaten in four months. I went to eat the peanut butter. crackers, and they were stale. It was like eating, you know, soft plaster. That's what Eli Manning watching has been for three or four years, eating stale crackers every single week. This time the crackers had crack and crunch. I thought you were going to say that you ate them and then you threw them up, and that

was like watching Eli Manning. No, it's just a disappointment of something stale every single time. You know what it's going to be. You see the, like, suddenly the Giants have a quarterback who's not. athletically limited to. And they kept mentioning what he can do that Eli can't. And we all know that Eli's an Iron Man and someone that, if you're a Giants fan, you love Eli Manning, the history of the guy. But they've needed this for so long. And Sequin Barclay was lost in this game to an ankle injury. And I don't know. High ankle sprain. And I mean, they thrived even without him. I thought

that simply would not have happened a week ago. Go watch that Giants Bill's game. And look how limited that attack was. They thrived without Saquan Barkley and Daniel Jones succeeded despite Shaq Barrett launching an all-out campaign on defensive player of the year. This guy has eight sacks in three games. What? Three sacks last week. I think he was

defensive player of the week. They got to give it to him again this week because he had four in this game. Two force fumbles and I think if that's the one thing Giants fans probably are a little bit, actually they don't even care because they're riding high right now but the one thing people were worried about in the preseason was the ball security for Daniel Jones.

And one of the fumbles was definitely on him being too casual in the pocket. So he had two. The other one was Shaq Barrett just doing Shaq Barrett. It doesn't get any brutal of a loss for the Buccaneers in this. To lose a 28 to 10 lead is bad enough. But then to lose it and then to watch James Winston throw a 55 yarder down the field, puts you inside the 10-yard line and you think you want it again. And then to lose it, that's like losing it twice.

that is Bruce. And this is the crazy thing. Ariens takes a five-yard delay of game penalty to back up his kicker who had missed the extra points earlier, Matt Gay. And here was his explanation why he did that prior to the game-ending miss. Bruce, what happened at the end there

when you got the five-yard penalty? Delay. What happened there? I just took it on purpose. You took it on purpose? Yeah, I want to feel... He's better back. That field goes easier back five yards. No sense hurrying.

We wanted to move the ball over, put it in the middle, and make it an easy field goal. I mean, Matt Gay, get out of the building. You cannot miss that kick. And everyone in listen to this podcast, I'm always team kicker, and I defend these guys, and I don't think kickers get enough credit about how hard their job is.

But sometimes you just got to make the kick because so many people are affected by you on that miss. Bruce Ariens on the sideline, James Winston on the silent, it totally changes the course of their season potentially because you can't hit a 34-yarder. And if you're a coach thinks that he needs to do things like take penalties to make you more comfortable, you're not the guy. You shouldn't be the kicker in the first place.

I'd like to see the data on five yards further back being an easier kick. Yeah, I totally. It's pretty brutal because he did make four kicks in that game. The thing is, Bruce Ariens is a savvy guy. And I appreciate in general his brutal honesty when asked. all sorts of typical softball type questions. But when you say this, and we're all here mystified by the strategy

to create a longer attempt for your kicker who is not exactly, you know, Martin Gramatica times 1,000, if that was even a good kicker, there was a kicker that came to name. He really wasn't great. If you multiplied him by a thousand, he would be the greatest kicker.

It'd be a powerful kicker. It'd be a lot of celebration. Said by a thousand. Martina. I mean, why put those words out there for us to dissect and everyone to dissect all week long after a totally brutal, painful loss. Is that honestly what Ariens was thinking by taking that penalty?

I guess you'd take the good with the bed with him. He's going to tell you what's on his mind. And a good example of what I'm saying, like on this very show Thursday, Mark, I think it was you, was saying, is this what Bruce Syrians came back for? To hope that Todd Bowles' defense is going to take you. Well, here's a game where Winston throws her 380 yards and three touchdowns and connects with Mike Evans on this huge clutch play

that should have set the season on a different course in the kicker group. After a great win over the Panthers, that's completely lost. That feels like a thousand years old at this point. This will get lost in the Daniel Jones hoopla, but you will not see a more lopsided receiver versus cornerback matchup probably all year than Mike Evans just taking the soul of Jack Rabbit Jenkins over and over and over again throughout this game. It was like Craig Elo trying to guard Michael Jordan.

Jack Rabbit. Yeah, maybe no more talking, Jack Rabbit. grab it. All right, before we move on, I got to hear that. Oh, yeah. That Bucks call of the Matt Gaye miss. Let's hear it. It comes down to a rookie kicker wearing green and yellow shoes.

Oh, Gene Decker-hoff. We deserve better. From the 24-a-34-yard field goal. The spot down, kick is airborne. It's long enough, long enough. It is. It is no good. And the Giants win by 1, 32-31.

What a pro, Decker-off is. He sounded suspicious of those shoes to begin. All right, let's check in with the New Orleans Saints. Snap is back and the kick is away. It's a high punt but short. Harris fields it at the 48, makes two mess. He's off to the races, the 40, the 35 to 30. Deonté Harris into the end zone, no flags on the field,

and the Saints strike first on special teams. Deonté Harris took the punt back 53 yards to the house. The first punt returned for a touchdown all year. Who heard of hurt or heard of such? How weird. Teddy Bridgewater threw two touchdown passes in its first start in place of Drew Brees. And the Saints beat the Seahawks 33 to 27 in a game that really wasn't that close, Greg. This was a game that the Saints showed up, balled out.

Seattle got a late touchdown. But good start all around for the Saints here. A very strange game where the Seahawks dominated in the first. half, but it was kind of in everything that can go wrong, did go wrong for the Seahawks. They give up the punt return touchdown. They have the fumble return touchdown on a Chris Carson fumble that goes back. So the Saints put up 14 points without doing anything on offense. Their punters having a great game, you know, pinning the Seahawks way back.

Russell Wilson's 14 for 15 for 150 yards in a touchdown, and they're down 27 to 7 at the time. So on one hand, yeah, it's a lot of bad luck. On the other hand, when the Saints came out after halftime, that was their best stretch of the game offensively and defensively. They put the game away. And for all the talk of running backs, you know, don't make that big of a difference. I mean, it was a huge difference in this game. Chris Garmin Carson slipped and fell three different times in the first half and he lost a fumble return for a touchdown.

Meanwhile, Alvin Camara, I asked on the Thursday show, let's see an MVP-type performance. And this was exactly that. I think he had 161 yards from scrimmage. the rest of the team had 104, and so many of those yards were in the passing game, breaking tackles after he was hit very hard, including by Jedevi and Clowny. When you can run through Jadevi and Clowny, you're something special. A huge win for the Saints. I realize the game is not as close as the score, but there was a sequence at the end of the first half

where the Seahawks had about 33 seconds to play with and decided not to take a time out as they were aiming to score, I believe. and Wilson hit D.K. Metcalf on a 54-yarder that would have put them in position for at least a field goal, if not more. And time just ran out because Pete Carroll, one of the smartest coaches we've ever watched coach football, did not take a timeout. Tony Romo was killing him, and I thought he was right to.

Yeah, he had two timeouts. It was a rough day for Pete. He got hit in the face with the football before the game. Stitches. Yeah, it left a pretty big mark on his nose. They went for it on fourth down three different times. So credit to him for being aggressive, but the Saints run defense, and we've talked about their defensive line,

stepped up in all those scenarios, and then they stopped a pass that I believe Russell Wilson audibled into with another one. So that was three other times that they were stopped on fourth down. And it kind of like a resourceful win that you like to see out of a good organization on the road when you really need it. Yeah, go ahead. I was going to say, you know, Greg made the point Thursday that this is the kind of challenge that Sean Payton really loves and he digs his teeth into.

and that's great. They won the game because they played as a team, and special teams really matter. But to me, I'm looking back to the end of last year, and still their offense doesn't work unless Alvin Camara is taking over the game and being the best player on the field. Do you feel Greg any better about their offense after today?

No. I mean, they didn't have a play over 20 yards. Teddy Bridgewater, who went 19 for 27, 177, and 2, didn't, I don't know if he threw a pass over 10. yards. I don't remember it. Like, I mean, there were some catch and runs. He didn't really need to. They had five offensive penalties

in the first half that were not on him, so it certainly wasn't on him that they struggled throughout that first half, but he looked like the same guy that we've seen the last couple games. It's still early, and that was only that was really his first real start. There was almost no Taseom Hill. There was less

Tassum Hill than usual. I wondered about that. That was John Peyton probably thumbing his nose of people, but like, they got to keep him healthy. That was the first Bridgewater start. He's going to have several more because Drew Brees just had surgery, of course. But I wonder if we're starting to get an idea of the Teddy Bridgewater experience where his ceiling is, that he's not going to be a dynamic guy.

He's a hold-the-fort guy all the way because it doesn't seem like he's a dynamic type player. Well, he's only got to start, let's say, six games. He just won one on the road in Seattle. If he can win three, if they can win three of those games while. Just get back to... While he's gone. Right. And it's his teammates that really stepped up for him.

His defense making huge plays in Camero. I want to go watch it, but I thought the concern last week was that when Bridgewater was on the field, Camara dried up entirely. The whole offense lost any sort of dynamic traits. And not the case today. Although... As much.

As much. I mean, the crazy thing is they had, I think, one of the bottom five yardage games in Sean Payton's career last week, and they had less yardage this week. They're a different team. It was a crazy game. Well, maybe what I just said sounds completely erroneous. No, no.

Hey, they're going to Dallas. I don't count them out of any game. I just think that they'll find ways to be competitive. And I think a lot of people, myself included, who said, oh, they're going to be kind of just another team until Breeze comes back and the South is wide open. This was a nice little show on Peyton game. And, you know, I'm still here. And you got the buck shooting themselves in Matt Gay's foot.

Extremely rare, too. Pete Carroll never lost a September. home game, 15 and O until today. Would it be Matt Gaye shooting the bucks on the foot? I mean, someone's foot was damaged. This was also almost the first two-score loss in the Russell Wilson era at home. Wow. But he just, he snuck it out by hitting a touchdown as a...

And the Bengals almost beat Seattle. I'm expired. Go Hawks. Seattle had been 15 and O at home in September since 2010. Did you say that? I did. Well, I wanted to repeat it. It's a fun little.

It was a good nug. Give a research department some credit. Let's move. Dan did that himself. He came up with that study. I've been tracking every one of their September home games since I've started this company. Guy Mize in the game.

They fake the screen to him. Brissette throws wide open to the end zone. Jack Pascol, touchdown. Seattle had been 15 and O at home. September. The first turn to the season for Zach Pastol in the end zone. And the Colts now leading to nothing with a minute 25 to go in the first quarter.

Matt Taylor, Colts Radio Network with the call. Jacoby Brissette. completed his first 16 passes through for two touchdowns in the first half, including that connection to Zachary Pascal, leading the Colts to a 27-24 win over the Falcons at

LOS. Lucas O'L. Stadium. Well done. Jake Brisket led four straight scoring drives. Didn't have a turnover? Closed out the game with a big completion to Jack Doyle. It's good to have some quarterback depth, Greg Rosenthal. That's right. It's good to have a coach that doesn't

coach scared. Andy Reed and his his former disciple, or not as Frank Reich. I guess it's sort of, they're in the same coaching tree. Both called third down passes where they could have called runs with under two minutes left in the fourth quarters of their games, which would have given the ball back to the other team and forced them to, you know, go the whole length of the field, but you know what they did? They called passes.

They trusted in the play call, and Jack Doyle got the big first down. Ty Hilton left at halftime. I mean, Jacoby Brissette got the ball at the end of the third quarter, beginning of the he needed to score both times, or keep the ball, both times he had the ball, because the Colts defense wasn't stopping anyone. The Falcons scored touchdowns on every second half possession. And you know what Jake Brisket does in the fourth quarter? He scores touchdowns and he delivers clutch drives.

Every week, three for three. He's a pretty good quarterback. He's not a star. He's not really even the key to this team, but he's part of what I think is kind of a team that's coalescing pretty well. You know what he is? He's better than a hold-the-fort guy. Yes.

He's like right around the Dalton line, right? or even maybe on the right side of it. I think his contract, that extension they gave him, tells you he's better than a hold the fork guy. Hold the fork guys get like $5 to $7 million a year. He got 15. I mean, when we last got our sample size with him with the Colts, it was when their offensive line was not what it is now

and it's in a better environment than he was before. For some reason, the cults kind of remind me of the Eagles a little bit where they're going to get banged up and lose players, but the ship doesn't entirely sink because they're well-coached. Their front office is extremely sound. and they've added depth. This Colts team had no depth under the previous front office.

They have it all over the place now. They've got infrastructure. When these two teams play, though, I mean, it's one-sided. There's no rivalry in the history of the NFL more one-sided than Colts-Falcons. I mean, Falcons fans don't even show up, don't even watch the game when you play the Colts.

People have been talking about the Colts-Falcons rivalry for decades. 15 wins, two losses. It doesn't get more one-sided than that. Atlanta, fix what you. you're doing that's like once every four years so that's and you know this is one of the most random that Ryan 29 of 34 304 three touchdowns one interception pass a rating of 121 that all looks great but but I mean I just feel like it's the same thing now it was a strange game the falcons only got six possessions I'm going to ask our research department if that's a record there was one

one play kneeled down at the end of the first half they would if you're not counting that they only had six possessions and he threw a red zone interception in the one of them. Other than that... They played pretty great on offense. I mean, they scored free straight touchdown. Devante Freeman ran well. I can't really fault Matt Ryan here.

They lost Keanu and Neil. Their strong safety for the second straight year. Achilles tear, it looks like he's out for the year. I don't like the energy around this Falcons operation right now. There is. There is something going on here. Right. I'm with you.

The dark spiritual force. I think it's on... That's where Dan Quinn's defense needs to make a stop at the end of the game. His offense is putting up touchdown after touchdown. and they're giving up drives to Zach Pascall and Marlon Mack and Moe Alley Cox. Those were the three guys. All right, let's check in, Mark. The Browns just fell behind.

So far, you've been a total pro throughout the broadcast. Does it change now? No, I'll continue to operate as an absolute pro and show absolutely no emotion at all. Okay, but a studio that's now up to 98 degrees. That's much higher on my list of concerns. Without a Nicolichet. Right. Can be found.

I'll ask the question, though, the listeners are one. Did you go to Hustlers alone or did Simone come or? No, this was on our Friday is typically our day to do what we do. And I went to see it on my own because I didn't think that was a movie that Simone was going to be strictly into. Opening day. Opening day. First day. I like going to the movies early because I don't like hearing other people eat in the movie theater.

So I'll typically go to like a 11 a.m. show and sit way up front, not near any other human because when I can hear someone eating popcorn, during a movie, I cannot concentrate at all. It throws me completely out of my element. Interesting. Let's move on. That's a new one. Theelan left, Adam is slot left, digs soul alone to the right,

on first down play action, Cousins, bootlegs up to the left, plants the foot. Fires deep, right man there caught. Theelan, five, touchdown! 35-yard touchdown, Cousins, Adam Theelan, and it's 6-0, Minnesota.

Paul Allen, Oh, he's one of the zero-truthers. Jaunty. Matt Money-Smith, who I do the power-ranking show on NFL.com, he always says zero. He never says 6-0. It's always zero. And it stops me in my tracks every time.

Popkis, Zatz. Goose egg. So, Kirk Cousins bounced back from his woeful performance last week at Green Bay, playing turnover-free football through that touchdown pass to Adam Thienland. It was his only touchdown pass of the day. day. An easy 34-14 win over the Raiders. Dablin Cook over 100 yards for the third straight week. The Vikings, two and one now. Wes, a home game against the silver and black. Just what the doctor ordered. Yeah, we've sort of referred to this on Thursday as the recipe for Kirk Cousin's success.

Home game, check. Nailed it. Inferior opponent. Check. Nailed it. Not a nationally televised game. Nobody's watching. Three for three. Vikings, this had a lot of seem like the same DNA from the season opener against the Falcons where the Vikings jump out to an early lead, run the ball down their opponent's throat, and don't rely too much on Kirk Cousins. Dalvin Cook, once again, the focal point of this team. And if there was an all-pro list for September, he would be the running back on it. You could do that. That sounds like a lesson assignment.

I'll be happy to talk about it on the podcast. You'll do it at half-time, half-time through eight weeks. It's amazing. Wes, you've been assigned to it. I'm sorry. Monday, 9 a.m. When they give Alexander Madison the ball, they look pretty good running the ball, too. He's a big boy.

They're a great running team when you can bring him in as a back. They're very close to 3-0 if they get 3-0, excuse me, if they could execute against Green Bay better. I think the Vikings are okay. I don't know if it'd be zero in the context of a record. I don't know. It's only because it's a score. It makes sense. The whole thing.

But, Wes, you so nailed it with the Kirk Cousins thing. If those things line up, he will never lose a game. He never has lost a game and he never will. The problem is the way sports and the NFL are set up is that the deeper you go into the season, you lose those elements. He's sort of like slightly better than Andy Dalton. Right. I think that's where he's always been.

And you made a good point the other day where there's the people who are anti-cousins. Greg's pointing at me. And, Wes, sorry. You know, people crow when he has a bad game. And then the defenders start crowing when he has a good game. I think he has been in that same area the whole time. about quarterback 11 through 13. Depends to what other quarterbacks are around.

Now there's more good young players that have passed them. That's just who he is. You're right, but I heard in all the write-ups and stuff that this was a good cousin's performance and reason for encouragement, and he threw for 174 yards. Dan, you once had to... Well, they didn't need him.

Well, no, and this is a Mike Zimmer fever dream where you're just going to run the ball 200 times. But that, like, we're talking about situations where cousins is going to be put into one of those games where all those boxes aren't checked before the kickoff happens. The same thing with Mike Zimmer wanting to run the ball 30 times and do nothing through the air. Good luck.

You're going to win a couple games that way, especially at home when you play as well as you do in that situation. But that's not how you get through a season in 2019. I'd be concerned. I want to give our listener Mighty Gazelle credit for phrasing the Kirk Cousins recap from Thursday so well. Well done. And one question about the, do you see any scenario?

where, like the guy, nice person, where Derek Haar is the quarterback for this Raiders team next September. This experience feels like it's going south. He's absolutely. Then he buy a house right next door to his head coach? Absolutely. I do not. I don't, I'm disappointed that the Raiders couldn't be competitive

and that their defense just, because that means if we're watching a season worth of them not being competitive, that's just making our Sundays worse. Bontas Burfitt got injured today after he tried to punch somebody after the play. I don't think the official saw the attempted punch. Oh, but the league will. Yeah, he might get a FedEx envelope, but he's got, like, his own deposit box for FedEx right outside his front door.

I feel like I've been told that Vontes Perfect has been injured about 47 times in the first three weeks of the season. They just, like, built a FedEx Kinko's next to his house to save the time. I think he just moved next door to the fine police. Let's move on. Eye backs, Armagh offset to the right, tight line splits. Olson in the backfield to block from McCaffrey, right up the middle, running free.

to the 35 to 40. Scott, Potential McCaffrey, 30, 20. He will score. 10, 5. A lightning bolt, Christian McCaffrey. Mick Mixon, Panthers Radio Network. Christian McCaffrey ripped off a 76-yard touchdown run. Kyle Allen throws four touchdowns.

In his first start in place of the injured Cam Newton, Panthers Cruz, 32 over the Cardinals in Glendale. Mark, this was the best-case scenario for Carolina, who just wanted to survive without their injured former MVP. Instead, they thrived with Allen. What an encouraging performance. On a day where we got a couple of quarterbacks in their first starts, changing the way we feel about certain teams.

I loved that Kyle Allen came out. He was aggressive from the start. You could tell right away that he was just feeling good. He was in the zone. He was kind of laughing on the sideline. Didn't have that sort of nervous energy that you might expect from someone. And I know he played well in Week 17 last year, but I just wanted to see here, you know, on the,

road. How does he come out and do it? And they had more life and energy to their passing game than they have all year. And he was hitting throws that Cam Newton was not hitting in the past couple weeks. And it's funny that they, the Christian McCaffrey, that was one of those, it was a touchdown that was not because of Kyle Allen, but he made two or three throws in this game that were total money tosses. And I enjoyed watching him. And I don't think you can count them out because he's a quarterback on any level at this point. I mean, you've got to go out and do it a couple weeks. a row, but there was something, nothing about his game that seemed like crippling limited to me at all. It was the opposite. It sounds like it was so impressive that not only will you not rush

Cam Newton back, but you will make sure he's 100% when he comes back. I think because, you know, we don't know what this team is. There's no reason in general to rush Cam Newton back after all the stuff he's been through the last couple years. I just would wait. It's a perfect scenario. The way today played out, they have that ability now to be patient. This was classic cornered animal action right here. Yes, it was. They saved their season. An O-N-3 Panthers team would have a lot of whispers about where the coach is going to be the next year, whether Cam Newton's even going to be on this team next year, all that stuff. And you've put all that off for another week or two. I'm a little confused, Dan. There's a

caged animal in a cornered dog. Are those two different kinds of games? You could put whatever animal you want. I love dogs, so I don't even like the image of imagining the dog cornered. but cornered animal or caged animal works. Gotcha. Yeah. This is a step back too, it sounds like, for Kyler Murray, 248 yards of offense from the Cardinals in 73 plays.

So they ran a ton of plays and didn't move the ball at all. Well, and I should mention Dante Jackson, who had two spectacular interceptions in this game. And it was some of the first action where I watched Kyler Murley, who I wouldn't say he was confused out on the field, but he threw a couple terrible balls, and Carolina turned two. those into those interceptions. He's not tearing the league up. That was kind of the, although it would

have been a surprise because it doesn't happen often, there was that hype around Murray that he would come in and Kingsbury would come in and they'd be ripping people up. That's not happening right now. So now the Cardinals have to do be what they weren't last year, which is patient, and let this develop as a partnership because it looks like, like Greg said, 4.0 yards per attempt. on 43 passes. This was the defense. This was the defense we expected to see the, from week one on.

The defense actually had been a little bit better for Arizona than we expected. This was what we expected. All right, let's move on. Chargers at the Houston 34, Rivers, shotgun. Rivers, deep drop, firing downfield, and tipped, and almost intercepted.

It's incomplete, and the Texans are going to win it. They will beat the Chargers today. Mark Van Damir of the Texans, Radio Network. Boy, I love this one. The Texans stop the Chargers in their last gasp attempt to tie the game. Deshawn Watson threw for 351 through three touchdown passes.

And J.J. Watt, there he is. Heating up two of the five sacks for the Texans and a 27 to 20 win over the Chargers. Who watched this game? I did. Greg Rosenthal. Deshawn Watson, every game does athletic things. And once again, he was on fire.

It's the Tao of Deshaun. All right, let's let this breathe. All right, the Tao of Deshawn. Yeah, you have to be comfortable in the chaos. You are going to invite pass rushers. You're going to invite hits. That's just his style. And all the things you like about Deshawn Watson are because of that.

And in this game especially, he held on to the ball pretty long because his offensive line played better. And the game-winning touchdown and the comeback were from those second-level plays where he just does something. He can be comfortable with that. And I think the fans have to be comfortable with that too with him getting hit more and taking sacks because that's where he makes his magic. He's won me over.

You're buying it? I'm on Dan's side of the Texans Ledger. Deshaun Watton has won me over. He's just so exciting. these two teams I have a hard time getting a feel for right now both of these teams

have played to the buzzer basically in all three of their games so they could each be 3 and 0 they could each be 0 and 3 but I think there are some things about the Texans that we can say Whitney Merciless another big game DJ Reader has made the leap

he was a big difference maker today and the offensive line I think has a chance to get better it certainly was better today and I think that's a big thing for it's How about some switches? How about Tunsell is he how did he look today? Bosa and Melvin Ingram, who have been relatively quiet this year,

we're relatively quiet once again. Wes, you joining the Texans bandwagon. Well, I'm not there yet. I'm just going to enjoy Deshaun Watson. I mean, I love Deshawn Watson. I'm in on that. No, I'm going to cornering me out. I'm going to, you're cornered out.

I've loved them from the beginning. The Titans lost me and may have lost me forever. That's good. That's also positive. And you know what I'm going to do as a favor to you? You're in this Devon Sawa Final Destination roller coaster ride with the Denver Broncos

I'm letting you off the ride No, I thank you for that That's very magnanimous of you But I can't let myself out of the penalty box yet I haven't suffered enough That's awesome You're definitely a raised Catholic By the way, there's definitely 47 people

who get that Devon Sawa reference Oh yeah, I mean a few people do 47 to 50 people I do Underrated movie All right Let's head to Sunday night football. Fourth down and goal from the five.

This is week three. Mayfield, flush in the pocket, rolling right, throws to the end zone. It is intercepted. The Rams take it away on the final snap for the Brown's offense. It's John Johnson with a diving pick in the end zone. And the Rams are going to come home at 3 and 0. Westchester's finest. This J.B. Long of the Rams Radio Network with the call.

John Johnson, the third, with the interception in the end zone on fourth and goal. The Browns go four and out with four shots to potentially tie the game. And that was it. The Los Angeles Rams, 20 to 13 victors in Cleveland and Sunday night football. They improved to 3-0. The Brownies fall to 1 and 2. Mark Sessler, should start with you on this one. We're going to get to the Rams in a moment, but you had trepidation around this game all week.

You've had trepidation around the rounds since their week one clunker against Tennessee. I imagine you don't feel any better right now. Writers Block. That's sort of how this team feels to me right now. When you're trying to produce something and you can't get in that flow and you can't get out of your own way. Or a relationship stuck in neutral where there's something about this team, offensively especially, because I thought they played a lights out. game on defense, considering how banged up their secondary is.

This has been the whole season, and I'm concerned, like, at the core about a line that has not protected Baker Mayfield well, but even when they are, it feels like Baker Mayfield has almost been zapped by the early season experience of playing behind this line. And it's hard to watch because last year, a team playing with house money down the stretch felt so loose on offense that you felt like they could do anything. I wanted them to go play the best teams they could and challenge those teams with what they had with Freddie Kitchens and Baker Mayfield

and even pre-Odell Beckham just the rest of their weapons. And they are banged up, but I don't really point to any of that as what's going on here. I think they just, I'm at a loss for words to some degree because, yes, I don't think it's a surprise to see how they performed on offense tonight. It's been happening all year. I don't know the way out.

I don't. I like your analogies, and you might also say, kind of like a kicker compensating for his last two misses, where it's stilted and it feels like they're thinking about it, hesitant in pressure situations, and Baker Mayfield not trusting his offensive line, and as Greg said when we were watching the game, he's actually scrambling into pressure, not away from pressure.

I mean, the last play of the game was emblematic. Not that they did a good job protecting him, just that the game ended with him rolling back to his right and just throwing it up because a lot that he's counting on improvising some plays. And some of the plays that were there, you can nitpick. But it sure looked like Jarvis Landry was basically wide open on the third down slant. He goes to another, he goes to the tight end on that play instead. And it's just those little decisions.

At some point you have to trust, you're right, that for now this is what this team is. The Rams are very similar. They've kind of looked the same each week. where their offensive line isn't playing as well, but that they get it going in the second half and the defense has been playing really well, and that's a difference between 3 and 0 and 1 and 2. The Brown's offensive line continues to be an issue.

Aaron Donald, Clay Matthews. The whole front 7 was getting after Mayfield, who, like we said, didn't handle that well either. And the play calling is definitely something you're going to hear a lot about in the hours and days ahead around the Browns. Most famously in this game, or infamously, I should say, was the fourth quarter,

fourth and nine near midfield draw call that got snuffed out after about a five or six yard gain. Everyone confused. There was a, you know, Twitter was a buzz afterwards. ESPN's tracking data, that's the first fourth and nine running play that they've tracked in over 20 years. Just a head scratcher. And after the game, Freddie Kinchins,

he took ownership of it, but also said it was the play he wanted to call. So you figure out that. And then, again, they get the big interception, Cleveland, of Jared Goff, who throws high and a pick. And Baker Mayfield, despite not looking comfortable, does get them down inside the 10 after some completions and also a roughing the passer call on Aaron Donald.

And then on those four straight plays, four passes, O'Dell Beckham not targeted once. He was brought here, Wes, to be a missing final piece guy in that offense. and he had that one big play against the Jets last week. But in general, this offense has not been able to take flight. I think football is so much more complicated than everybody sitting at home wants to admit it is. But sometimes when you have the best athlete on the field, you just have to take a chance and throw it up in his direction

and let him make a play when nothing else is going right. I mean, if you look at that Jets game, everyone wanted to stream the highlights of O'Dell Beckham with the 89-year touchdown, but they were struggling to get him open and make him productive in that game too despite the final score, the final line for him. I really think the Rams defense is doing a lot of the carrying on this team and they are much better than last year.

Clay Matthews already has more sacks than he had last year. Dante Fowler has been a regular behind the line of scrimmage. Mark pointed out during the game, Corey Littleton has been one of the best linebackers in the NFL this year. Weddell adds a lot. Taylor Rap is a hit as a second round pick. They are a better, I think Marcus, Peters and Akeep Taleb are playing better.

And to Cleveland's credit on defense, they entered this game missing all four their starting defensive backs, and they put up a real good fight. I mean, that Rams warmed up as things went along. They actually ended up with two 100-yard receivers in Brandon Cooks and Cooper Cup, who had a huge game, two touchdowns over 100 yards. But the Rams had, what, three points at halftime? I mean, that is pretty incredible to me, if you would have told me that after everything we heard about the injury issues that they would get the job done going into the second half

and the offense just not able to figure it out. That's, to me, one of the biggest stories of the young season right now is how disappointing the Browns have been on an offense. I mean, and it's the problem is because it's, you know, the pressure is going to get amped up. They are days away from having to go deal with the Ravens, who are a far superior team playing in sync right now. And, you know, I total respect to the Rams because in the early year that they've been here. They're 3 and O, and they knocked off Carolina on the road. That was a tough game.

That was not an easy ask. And to go and do it tonight, I mean, the Rams have to be respected entirely. Well, Freddie Kitchens is getting a lot of grief about being in and over his head. And I feel like that's maybe projecting what he looks like or just they have made some curious decisions. Or it's experience. Certainly. And lack of experience. That said, good coaching is about adjusting. Your three games into the season. What's not, it's obvious it's not working right now. He needs to figure out how to adjust whatever he came into the season

planning to do, and it's a new experience for him because, yeah, he was the guy calling the plays at the end of last year, but he wasn't the head coach at the end of last year. That is a big difference. And the guy who's not calling the plays was one of the best play callers in the NFL last year, and he was the guy dialing up Fitzmagic early last season.

Todd Monkin. Mark, it's not all bad. You're locked up your Rammies. You're part of the Rammley. I'm sure the city of Cleveland can feel great about that. All right, I just have like a couple questions. Well, how long have you lived in Cleveland ever in your life, like total? Not a resident of people. How many times have you ever spent there even?

I mean, I've been there a number of times. Total number of hours in the city. I never walk around saying, look at me, Cleveland residents. I'm just saying how many years have you now lived in L.A. Oh, I've been lived in L.A. for 15 years. The Rammley, I don't know. Maybe they're calling you home. They're accepted that application.

They locked it up for you. Today was your official entry into the Rammley. I mean, I feel no passion around that at all. I mean, you're a big movie guy. It all sort of makes sense. Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the Rams. You're a big Tinseltown guy. Hustlers.

Nothing to do with the Rams. I mean, nice try, guys. Hollywood's team. Nice try. All right, Mark. Well, you were a good sport, and you did not go crazy in the studio, and you were hyper professional, and on behalf of the entire crew, both in front of and behind the glass, we thank you for that.

I'm not surprised that I acted like a pro. It's good. All right. We'll be back. We'll be back on Tuesday with our Monday night football recap, and then we start spinning and looking ahead to, guess what, guys? Week four, the train is out the station, and it's rolling. Can almost smell London, just a couple weeks away.

It's like eons left. There are absolute ages. And the heroes are going to London in a couple weeks. We can't wait for that, and we'll have more information on that trip. But that will come down the line. All right, Ricky. Let's get out of here. You're happy Antonio Brown's not with you anymore.

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