NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2019 Week 6 Recap from Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London

Episode Date: October 14, 2019

A Commissioner's Suite filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler recap an action-packed Week 6 of the 2019 NFL season from Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London. The guys talk about the Panthers' big win over the Buccaneers in early in the day (4:24), discuss the Texans' road where they handed the Chiefs their second straight loss (13:10), dive into the 49ers' huge win at LA Coliseum to improve to 5-0 for the first time in nearly 30 years (19:40), and react to the Saints' gritty win in Jacksonville (32:30). Later, the heroes get into the Vikings' statement win over the Eagles (36:30), discuss the Jets' win against the Cowboys in Sam Darnold's return to action (43:40), and finally Lakisha Wesseling and Jeremy Bergman tag in to recap the Steelers' big win over the Chargers Sunday Night football (1:09:05) before the heroes bid London adieu!Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, Dan. I tell no tales. Tall tales. We are still keeping up our unbeatable, far-vian streak of being the last humans out of a stadium after a major NFL tent poll event. We are still at Tottenham Hot Spur Stadium at 1 a.m. After the Panthers and Bucks went at it ages ago, and we're recording this

from Commissioner Roger Goodell's suite, high above the field. In fact, I hold in my hand, boys, a bottle of Rogero Proceco, Doc, and we will be opening this at the conclusion of today's episode. And Roger, you could bill us. Right.

I guess my one suggestion for our commissioner would be, you know, don't lock the fridges. You know, all the drinks that we can find around here. And I'm just talking water and soda are warm. So the cold beverages are locked. They thought to do that. But the warm ones we can steal. The great thing is, is for a commissioner who we certainly respect a lot,

who has never heard of our show likely, well, now it'll be. That's not true. Well, it'll be thrown on his desk that at this point, you know, the biggest impact we've had on him is stealing a 200 bottle champagne. I've never seen our shadowy league figure that's in the room look more uncomfortable than right now.

Just taking furious nose. Delete, delete, delete. Just have John Runyon send us a FedEx envelope like we're Vantes perfect. And isn't it, Mark, fitting that in the commissioner's special suite, right in the center of the room, there is a encased-in-glassed-Lombardi trophy. And even in this setting, Greg is, closer to the Lombardy than you and I. I mean, as far as the east is from the west is how far away I am from it at this point.

You seem a little bit closer today. You got you bounce in your step. The old Zusser got a W. All right, a lot to get to. And yes, it was a really fun special day here in London as we end our hopefully annual trip to England, jolly old England. And we had such a great time on the field here at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. We did multiple rounds of work with Sky Sports and our good buddy Neil Reynolds and company. And they, as always, were super inviting.

And that was great. We did a lot of media, Greg. This was one of the busiest days ever for the podcast. We learned how difficult sideline reporting is with, like, massive videos playing in your ears as Hannah Wilkes from Sky Sports was trying to ask us questions. And we're just guessing what to say. Yeah, she's a total pro, and, I mean, we were learning on the fly. To me, it was like I've always wondered what it would be like to be reporting live from Beirut under fire. And it was like, that's how it would sound audibly, I think.

Very loud, disturbing. We were also on the Jumbotron for the first time in front of like 30,000 people doing a 15-minute mini pregame show. That was pretty surreal. One of the more surreal moments of our career, as I would say. Greg was a lot from that. Greg was feeling himself. He got the Panthers to give a nice show. out? Well, I've always, it was a career goal

here. Ever since I was a little boy, I've always dreamed of saying, are any Panthers fans in here? And they responded. It wasn't bad. And then the producer of the hit, as soon as it ended, he was a gentleman from around here.

It was like, you never, ever do that. It worked. It was good. I liked it. It worked. It was a high wire act, typical of Greg, who is just, his whole career has been one high wire act of excitement. That's the way I look at it. Makes me feel alive.

We got a lot of games to get to. So yes, we were at this game. So why don't we, as we spin through all of the games on Sunday of Week 6th, why don't we start with a game that we attended, yes, here in London. Hit it, Ricky. Panthers going on silent count on

first down. Allen looks middle, no receivers open. McCaffrey is though. Left flat McCaffrey to the 20, to the 10, spins away. Touchdown, Carolina. McCaffrey left side. He made three or four buccaneers look like they've never practiced. Panthers Radio Network with the call. Christian McCaffrey scored two touchdowns and Carolina turned five interceptions.

Five interceptions by James Winston into 17 points. That's four straight wins now for the Panthers after a 37 to 26 win over the bucks. And it wasn't even really that close because Carolina from the jump was the superior team. The very first play from scrimmage was a James Winston interception, which was obviously a sign of things to come. Winston under constant duress, the right

side of Tampa's offensive line was missing with injuries, and you could see it. We had, you know, we were lucky enough to be down on the field for large portions of this game and also in the press box, which had a good line of sight.

Amazing stadium. This is such a great place. And you could see, it almost see it on Winston's face the he was shook as the kids say he was never comfortable in the pocket and that led to turnover after turnover after turnover and Carolina didn't light it up offensively themselves I believe they finished under 300 yards of total offense or were certainly in that neighborhood but they didn't need to because they kept on getting good field position Christian McCaffrey was held at about a hundred a yard and a half a carry but still scored two touchdowns including that 25 yard play where he broke about seven pairs of ankles in the Tampa secondary. So the Panthers get the job done against a Tampa Bay team that seemed jet lag, quite frankly, four wins in a row, four and two now for the Panthers. I believe in one of our myriad prediction exercises, according to some of our listeners. I predicted a five interception game for James Winston.

I didn't see. We preview this game like 47 times this week, so it's hard to remember which. I didn't see this much of a meltdown, and I don't know how much of it is on the offense. of line but back-to-back sacks in the red zone won a lost fumble and then the five interceptions it was it was you know you're waiting for james winston to show tangible signs of improvement and for the first two or three weeks of the season you could say hey they're moving the ball they're scoring points it's the offense that's carrying this team and now it's just it's the same old james weston where it's one step forward two steps back you just can't trust him

opposites of track and you know you can't trust him not to get rattled and for that offense to have rhythm for an entire game it just doesn't happen really like that uh paula abd cameo by paula abd i think mc scat cat oh you nailed it well done well done uh i feel like we've been building to this moment on the around the NFL podcast since the moment jamis winston was drafted number one in 2014 it had to end here like our journey of me to defending James Winston had to end in person in London after. Wait, you're going to stop defending him? I mean, what's there left to do? I mean, five interceptions, seven sacks, two fumbles. There's no more, there's nothing left to defend. And we'll get to Marcus Mariotta later, but he was benched for the first time in his career

while he's healthy in this debate we've had forever is the most pointless debate ever. Winston, even before this game was started, was in his own head. He was just holding the ball just like he did in New Orleans. And I think he was beaten by the coordinator, Ron Rivera, in Carolina and everything that was going on, even before they started the game. It was the ultimate, at the end of the day, much ado about nothing with these two guys. And maybe the last chapter hasn't been written with these guys, but that will be the storyline that comes out of this Sunday that, and we're going to get to Mario, but Winston, I don't

know if he gets benched going into next week. Bruce Ariens, Greg, I think you might have heard or read that he seemed very annoyed after this game, as I imagine he would be. But the window now, you can imagine, Mark, is closing very quickly on Winston to be able to make any type of impression on the new coaching staff. Well, the whole messaging was that Bruce Ariens, it wasn't that he was going to make James Winston into a yardage monster because he already was that. He was those things to begin with.

It was today, too, 400 yards. 400 yards, a lot of it coming late in the game when it didn't really matter. I mean, to me, Ariens has to look at this quarterback. He's been around a lot of them and say, if I can't get this guy to play safer football, protect us and not put us in this position, this is an unmanageable mission from a quarterback guru's perspective. I will say this too. They played a defense in the Carolina Panthers that is becoming an absolute chaos spinning unit. And one that these NFC South teams all were locked.

They don't feel locked to me right now. The Panthers with this defense, and we've seen this with Ron Rivera before, it doesn't matter who's a quarterback. It doesn't matter that Christian McCaffrey was held to about 57 yards today. The defense made all the difference. Now, you're not going to play James Winston every week, and you're not going to get some of the throws he gave them. But they're doing this.

They're disrupting the pocket week after week. But you know who had a ton of injuries on the O line, too? Carolina who had a ton of injuries on defense Carolina they're getting to their buy at four and two Kyle Allen made a couple nice throws today he has not thrown an interception yet in his career I know he's had the fumble problems that was not a problem today I would say both of Winston and Allen their best throws of the day were dropped it was a sloppy game here in the in the bucks especially who arrived on Friday afternoon I tell you I mean I don't know we're not experts on jet lag or anything but that doesn't feel like everyone here thinks that's just not enough time it seems

crazy to arrive us two days into our trip we're still up till 4 a.m. every just it's hard to it's hard to sleep that was my my two takeaways um from a player perspective nice revenge game by gerald mccoy two and a half sacks he was probably the best player against tampa he was all over the place living in the backfield and yes on the day that kyle allen has a nice day not a lights out day but a nice day in a resounding victory for the panthers our own ian rapaport puts out a report this morning that Cam Newton might not immediately get a starting job back just when he gets healthy, which might not be for a while.

We're still figuring out how long he's going to be out. But we had heard whispers of that earlier this week, and then the report comes out that Kyle Allen, as long as they keep winning, you're not going to see Cam just waltz back onto the field. So that's a big subplot. Any final thoughts from this game? I'll say one thing about the crowd here,

because if this game were happening in Tampa, the stadium would have cleared out early third quarter when the wheels were completely spinning off the vehicle and it's special here people don't leave and that's a unique thing I understand why if you're a season ticket holder in Tampa you're very frustrated but I think for the Bucks who this was a home game for them not in theory

but in practice and they felt that that support today even when they were not giving any reason for that. The crowd was going crazy when they were scoring a touchdown down 37-20 when they were picking up first downs down 37 to 26 I was really impressed. Wait. By the crowd in general.

It was a home game in practice, but not in theory. Right? Is it the other way around? Both. But in practice, I don't find home games to be in London necessarily. They had a better crowd than I expect. I figured it was going to be heavy Carolina. It was a little way to Tampa.

Final thought, Wes. Well, I've got two of them. First of all, you can't bench James Winston. Ryan Griffin, the backup doesn't have an NFL arm. There's no point. They're two and four. You're going to play this out. And Bruce Aryan specifically cited James Winston.

as a franchise quarterback for the reason he came back to the NFL as the Buccaneers coach. The second thing, Dan, we've noticed in London, there's a bit more of a wild west atmosphere as far as things that people can get away with. We noticed Thursday night at one of our shows. They were handing out beers to the audience, which you would not see in America. At our NFL event. Never needed an excuse to drink in England. In the press box today toward the end of the game, Michael Polarty, the punter for the Panthers,

unleashed one, and the press box announcers announced this way. And this one is not fumbled by Bobo Newsom, the returner. You would never hear that in American Stadium. No, you wouldn't. All right, let us move on to me the best game of the day in Kansas City. Fourth and three at the Chiefs 27-yard line. Deshaun puts the leg down. Here's the snap.

Watson, throw in. And he hits Hopkins for a first down. The game is over. The Texans can kill the clock in Kansas City. What a gutsy call, fourth down. Watson to Hopkins to drill the knife in the heart of the chief. Mark Vandemir. There's that terrible new music.

Ricky, we are going to address this together once we get back to the States. Pumps me up. No, we got to find another alternative. If we're going to be robbed of our rightful music by the shadowy league figures, we need to find something better. How about some Horonoco flow? Mark Vandemere, Texans Radio Network with the call. Deshawn Watson, well, you could bring it back up while I'm doing the read.

Well, you don't like it. The Sean Watson threw for 280 yards and a touchdown. He ran for two scores, and Patrick Mahomes could not keep up. The Texans, a 31 to 24 win over the Chiefs in Kansas. Kansas City, West, the Texans could have won this game going away, had they executed better, but even an imperfect performance, they won an Arrowhead, and again, announce we are a legit AFC contender. Yeah, it looked like Will Fuller dropped a couple of potential touchdowns.

DeAndre Hopkins had an uncharacteristic drop in the red zone. Deshaun Watson threw an end zone interception on fourth and one. Kicker issues. They could have scored over 45 points in this game. and this is how dominant was. It was the highest time of possession by an opponent in a non-overtime game at Arrowhead Stadium ever. Whoa.

They kicked them up and down the field. Chiefs defense could not get off the field. They ran for over 190 yards on 40 carries. This was a just, it seemed like the better team won. And this is going back a few weeks now. The Colts were the better team against the Chiefs last week. The week before that, I thought the Lions were the better team against the Chiefs. This is a team that's not helping his quarterback on a day when Tyreek Hill comes back

and has a couple of, at least one spectacular play and another touchdown. This was an arena league type of game where a stop kind of counted double. You know, you said they could add 45, but a lot of those dropped plays, they end up scoring anyways. They didn't punt. The Texans did not punt. The only way they were stopped were a mistake. Carlos Hyde fumbled on the first play of the game. There was an interception. on a late throw from Watson, which was an incredible one-handed catch by Charvarius Ward. But other than that, they did whatever they want.

It was downhill. The stat that is just wild to me. Once the Texans took the ball, late in the first quarter, they had 72 offensive plays to 28 for the Kansas City Chiefs. That is playing downhill. That is domination. But this was also a banged-up Patrick Mahomes. That's been weeks in a row at this point.

Playing behind a banged-up offensive line. Right. He's not physically right. And on the flip side, you get to Sean Watson. When you get these games, when he's not thrown around, zero sacks. And you have Carlos Hyde. I don't know what sort of body double switch occurred with Carlos Hyde at some point here. But Bill O'Brien, he went after him, and a lot of people critique that move.

And for good reason, because Carlos Hyde has just not been a thing for a while, floating from team to team. 26 carries, 116 yards. They favor him over Duke Johnson. There's no question about that. And today, you know, he was a grinder for them. You couldn't get them off the field. We have enough evidence now to say that O'Brien, he had the mightest touch in that month heading into the season

because in Laramie Tunsell, they got the left tackle they desperately needed. And for the second straight week, Watson was protected incredibly well. And when you protect Deshaun Watson well, he's as good as any player in the entire national football league. So it's that type of thing. And in the running back tandem, that was a major issue with this team. They were going to lean on Lamar Miller, even though I used to be a fan of Lamar Miller,

he never was a guy that scared anybody. And now they have this two-headed attack. It's amazing. Just five years ago, your team at the end of August was your team for the year. That's how the NFL worked. And now, you know, you got Carlos Hyde and Duke Johnson, who aren't even there for training camp,

and it's a whole new backfield. Your left tackles knew. It's just a different NFL. They had 180. yards combined in three touchdowns. That was Cleveland's back in a year ago. Duke Johnson had a receiving touchdown. It was really an athletic play to get himself into the end zone.

I mean, it was just unbelievable. And Mahon's injury, which he, the ankle injury suffered on Sunday night football. It's been a rough seven days for this team. He got it rolled up on again in this game. And you could tell that he's not the same guy right now. Well, he took two massive hits in the first half where you're just not used to seeing him hit that hard. That said, they didn't. didn't punt either until the fourth quarter.

They didn't have the ball in the second half and they went three and out twice in the fourth quarter and that basically was the ball game. The key sequence was, again, his protection breaking down late in the first half and your boy, it was about 30 seconds left and they're trying to get a quick three points. Well, what's your boy's name? You know who I'm talking about. The Texans pass. A minute.

Charles Amenahue? Amanahue comes in. Yeah, he goes the stripsack and the Texans pick up a quick fumble and that was a ten point swing and that to me was the key sequence. Holmes is banged up, but that doesn't explain what's going on with this defense. This is supposed to be an improved defense. A couple weeks ago, that was a buzzy narrative around it. Well, right now, they don't look too hot.

Well, by far their best player on defense is Chris Jones. He's one of the best defensive players in the entire league. He's not there, and their defensive end tandem of Frank Clark and Alex Ocalfour have been almost non-existent from a pass-rush standpoint this year. And teams are running all over them, too. Wes, you worried about the Chiefs, or is this just a little bump in the road right now? I think we'll see a different team on offense when they're fully healthy. And now that they have Tyreek Hillback, that doesn't bother me as much.

When the quarterback's healthy and the offensive line's healthy, they'll move the ball. It's the defense where I just, I don't see that backbone that you need for a championship team. They're the team that needs the by week to happen sooner. It doesn't happen for months for them. All right. So the chiefs couldn't get any stops. Let's check in on a team that plays in the NFC West that couldn't stop getting stops. can't stop getting stops.

That's a thing. Fourth and goal, one-yard line, they walk up to the line. Here's a give to Malcolm Brown. 49ers push it back. He did not get it. The 49ers goal line stand. They will take over on their own one-yard line.

Greg Poppin, Tim Ryan, with the call. Yeah, that was really the turning point of this game. between the Niners and Rams at the Coliseum, a goal line stop by that San Francisco defense in the second quarter, and the Rams never really competed again. The 49ers, 20 to 7, a win that even the score, even it was a convincing win score-wise. That doesn't quite tell the story here

of how dominant the Niners were. I mean, this was a game, Jared Goff, a guy who this time last year was getting MVP chatter, and he's been up and down this year, as we know. But he was held to 78 yards passing, a career low. And no Todd Gurley. They ran the ball pretty well. The Rams did early on in the game.

But eventually San Francisco just squeezed the life out of the Rams in their building. I mean, that is a big, big win for the Niners who are now 5 and O. And any questions, Greg, about the Niners are being answered over the last six days with their performances against the Browns at home and the Rams on the road. and all these concerns that have been in the periphery around the Rams are now coming to focus as if to tell us the Rams might be in trouble. They are because the 49ers and the Seahawks are in their division. And the 49ers almost feel chemically engineered to beat the Rams. The Rams, two biggest weaknesses, without a doubt right now, are pass protection.

And so you play the 49ers in this front and Jared Gough has no time. Jared Gough had one more first down than Blake Bortles did today. One. That's it. And then the other big weakness the Rams have had really since Wade Phillips has been there, has been their run defense. It doesn't hurt you as much when you're ahead in games, but it certainly hurt today. And you fall behind against the 49ers and they were able to control things in the second half. The Niners, when they are good, are absolutely ferocious bullies. And it's a lot of these parts that, you know, the past couple off seasons and seasons, they've had players on defense and offense. And when will it all gel come together and turn

into wins. Well, it is happening right now. And their formula, when they get up early in games, or they start to tire out of defense, then unleash their ground game, they're unstoppable. And it's every team that deals with San Francisco comes out of it with that city's media questioning

the coaching staff, questioning the quarterback attached to that team, because they're going in and dropping mega hammers on people left and right. And anyone who thought, oh, you know what, well, you've got to go actually beat the Rams for us to believe in you. Well, box checked. Have a nice day.

Yeah, two weeks in a row, they played against overrated offenses. The Brown's offense isn't very good. The Rams offense is not good. And there's a lot of listeners asking us to talk about Sean McVeigh. I don't think that he all of a sudden got dumb. I mean, he's a smart coach. They had the 2017 offensive player of the year and a first team all pro who is now the last ranked running back

in pro football focused, their entire offense, based on Todd Gurley and how their run looks look the same as their past looks. and now it's not happening. Jared Goff hasn't played well, and the offensive line is materially different than it was. It's gone from one of the best to one of the worst. You've gone, those three things are happening, and I just, okay, maybe some coaches have a blueprint on Sean McVeigh's offense,

but it also isn't the same offense without Todd Gurley. You know what happened to him? You got Robert Salad. Right, and that's why you got to, if you're Greg Zerlin, you got to hit that kick last week in Seattle, because you don't know when you're going to really, really need it. And at this point, they're three down in the division, and they have to go to San Francisco later. And they're not good.

Wes, you were talking about, you were talking about in a similar situation a couple weeks ago, although their fortunes have changed dramatically since then, that people just putting the Viking struggles on Kirk Cousins were not looking at the big picture. I think Goff is going to get the lion's share of the heat here after having a miserable game. But for all the reasons that you've just stated that the offensive line is not playing well that Todd Gurley was one of the best football players in the world 18 months ago and now he's just another guy potentially. The Rams are in a bit of a transition that they're going through in real time and sometimes that can cost you a season. We always simplify it because

it's way too complex for us to understand and we're not close enough to the situation to know exactly what's going on. But it's never just the quarterback's fault. And golf has not played with the same confidence. He's dropping back a lot more because they can't do it. as much play action without a good running game. So I think you're seeing part of that. But, yeah, I think it's four or five things that are going wrong. Jimmy G is a great example of it's not just the quarterback. He's thrown seven touchdowns and five interceptions.

The Rams defense, they'll take what they gave today. They're not really built to be a dominant defense. The 49ers have the ball 11 times. They scored 20 points. They got about 300 yards. You know, that's kind of what the Rams defense is going to do. Jimmy G is okay. But he's supported by right now kind of the best support.

group in the entire NFL. I would suggest, I know that people will want to, you know, check this out on a condensed 40-minute version of the game. I would suggest that you watch the entire thing in real-time. The announcing is a little rough, but you could gather your friends around. Shlera's shot. A little bit rough,

but you could gather your friends around and play a raucous drinking game for every time that Niners' defensive coordinator, Robert Salah, does a fist bump on the sideline as his defense is coming off a field after wreaking total havoc. It's Salah? It's not Salah? Sala.

You never hear it enough. announced the same way twice. I think it's Sala. I don't know. That is one of the images of the week. He's going to be a head coach. He became a star today. He will be the Redskins head coach three weeks from now.

He's too buff and he just looks like a head coach. You said hot earlier in a private season. Yeah, you were mentioning that. These owners are watching and it, I've, this is one thing I've learned over the years. It's not much more complicated than they just, if Ian and Adam Schaefter say like, oh, here are the hot coaching candidates. That's just who they interview. It's the combination of that and how they look. Kind of like, do they look good and has Ian and mentioned them?

That's the key. And so those two things, Salah's got it. That's an interesting theory, but most of these teams are now hiring consulting firms to do their coaches. Or Charlie Casperley. Corn Ferry. Or ask Peter Schroger. On second thought, Mark, it wasn't in the private conversation. You didn't say hot.

You said beautiful. God, he said any of this. I didn't say any of this. I didn't say anything. I know this gets so overplayed too much, but Jimmy G. helmet off along the sideline rallying the offensive line. He has gotten a little hotter. I'm just going to be honest. I don't know

what's happening, but he's gotten a little bit more attractive. It is 121 in the morning. We've been here for like 14 hours. All right, let's move on. It's a good call. Mayfield looks that way, throws the slant ball. It's intercepted. K.J. Wright, the ball is tipped off of the receiver

Hilliard. K.J. Wright is right there. He reaches out. The Brown's fans are heading for the exits. K.J. Wright is heading for the end zone to kneel down and have his picture taken. Four turnovers, three interceptions, one fumble by these Browns. And K.J. Wright comes up with a huge takeaway, his first pick of the season. All right. Seahawks Radio Network with the call. No, Mark.

And it was not supposed to be going this way in 2019. But here we are. Baker Mayfield's fourth quarter interception is third of the game and 11th of the season. and a backbreaker for the Browns and a game changer for the Seahawks who wiped away a big first half deficit and route to a 32 to 28 win in Cleveland where the Browns are 0 and 3 this year. Mark, the Seahawks are the one team

that can look at a 20 to 6 deficit, which is what they faced in this game in the first half, and they don't blink. Yeah, I mean, you and I were watching this and we said that to ourselves because you never felt safe to me that Cleveland jumped out to that lead. Their offense I thought early on looked good. Baker Mayfield was pretty well protected.

in this game. They had 20 points before the first quarter was over. They scored eight more the rest of the game. And it was just total collapse in the sense of not kind of unlike the Bucks offense too, where you cannot, this team cannot overcome incredible mistakes against a team like the Seahawks that are playing like an NFC title contender right now. And it was the three interceptions. Chubb had Nick Chubb who played an otherwise a fantastic game and looks like one of the best running backs in the NFL right now. Had a very costly fumble. you know, sandwiched in between those mistakes was a blocked punt

that turned the tide as well. Cleveland just, when I watched Freddy Kitchens a lot, he is getting killed after this game for a series also. And I will try to make it. I'll explain it in a compact fashion. He essentially, they drove down deep against the Seahawks.

And they went forward on a fourth down and something like outside of the red zone. Fourth and three at about the 25 or so. We watched that happen and they got it. And then they got it. down deep to fourth and one, and it's like, listen, you've got to go for it again. You already went for it. Why would you now kick a field goal?

And they attempted to, and this was at a key point in the game, and Nick Chubb rolled in for the touchdown to cap what was a successful drive. But Freddie Kitchens had thrown the challenge flag right before he crossed the goal line for a previous play where Jarvis Landry looked like he had been, you know, fumbled the ball into the end zone, essentially. And there was a lot of rigamore around that, that call was not upheld. the Browns had to go for it again, and they did not get it, and then they come back. Seattle marches right down the field, 14-point swing.

No, Seattle at that point actually was forced into a punt. Oh, that's right. And Cleveland did come back and score the touchdowns. Right, they took the lead. They did. I would say this, though. And the field position was part of it. Right, and my point is that Freddie Kitchen should not be killed for being aggressive

and doing what he did. There are times when this offense, and it feels like it's a coaching thing, just is a little overwhelmed and doesn't have a full game plan together. The point I was, the part of the game I was thinking of, Browns are in control of the game. This seems to have happened a couple times now where Cleveland has a chance to really put a stamp on a game and then things go sideways. They're marching down the field late in the half up, I believe, double digits. Baker throws an interception in the end zone. And then to compound matters, the defense then lets down and Seattle marches all the way down the other way and the other direction and scores the touchdown.

It's just been, that's the type of stuff that's happening with the Browns this year. they just don't, they are not executing the way they need to execute and they're two and four because it's also the stuff that's been happening to Seattle because there is total team belief they are as well coached as any club in the league right now. And I think it's a lesson. And I know everyone wanted Cleveland to be six and one at this point. It is a lesson against a team that was better prepared has players that don't make mistakes and Cleveland still learning how to play the area. They've had to deal with the Rams, Niners, and Seahawks over the last three weeks and have the Patriots after the buy.

They nearly beat the Rams. They nearly beat one today. They lost to a better team today. The Seahawks are an NFC title type of. And they were a short three offensive line in the CX. But you know what? Russell Wilson and MVP candidates and good organizations like the Seahawks do, they close. They get that end of the first half touchdown.

The Brown took the lead in this game with nine minutes left. And what does Wilson do? He goes nine plays, 64 yards, touchdown. The next time they get the ball, it's not over yet. either. They get their two first downs to say buy Browns. They closed out the game. They picked up the interception. Mayfield is just like a hair bit behind his receiver. Hilliard makes a bad play and it gets picked off. And that's just what's killing the Browns. It's just these little things, but they're not closing. I should mention too, Baker played through a hip injury that I think, I wouldn't be surprised

if it knocked him out for a game or two because he was in noticeable pain. He's going through the painful process of trying to become what Russell Wilson is, and he's just not there yet. Nope. And we talked about it on Thursday. This was a big game at home, and they need now a really season-changing win, and maybe it's against the Patriots,

but right now... Don't hold your breath. It is not looking good for the Browns. Let us move on. Third down and goal from the five. Bridgewater in the gun. Three receivers left, one right. Jags rush four. Bridgewater throws back to the end zone. Caught.

Jared Cook touchdown back of the end zone, and that is a huge score by the New Orleans Saints. Cook is cooking. Zach Strebe, Deuce McAllister, Saints Radio Network. Teddy Bridgewater found Jared Cook. There's Jared Cook. Jared Cook making a play. Four yards score early in the fourth quarter of the Saints

held on to beat the Jacksonville Jaguars, 13 to 6. New Orleans is now 4-0 without Drew Brees. West, the Jags. Gardner Minchew are the latest to feel the wrath of New Orleans's swarming deep. I felt the wrath too because I locked up against this team. Oh, no, Wes, we're in historic territory now. I am in my own head so bad. I feel like I have a good beat on this New Orleans Saints offense.

Teddy sailed a bunch of balls early. They were not impressive. But I've underrated the defense's ability to keep the other team's offense from really cracking double figures or doing much of anything. They just play so well as a team together. They've been doing it ever since Drew Brees went down with the injury. They did it again today. This was the first time that Gardner Minshu really looked like a rookie.

He was overwhelmed, did not complete 50% of his passes. They got the ball back with seven minutes to go and a chance to tie and went three and out. Never got the ball again because the Saints are playing that winning brand of football right now. Is Dennis Allen doing better than any defensive coordinator in the league? I don't know if we've said his- Zala. I don't know if we've said Dennis Allen's name yet, but if you go through the game plans of the teams

that he has shut out and shut down in a row, whether it's Seattle, Dallas, Jacksonville, whom I forget in last week. I mean, he has won against his opposing offensive coordinator week after week. Dennis Allen. Just keep him as a coordinator. Sure.

I'm not saying you need to be a head coach. I mean, that's a great job. He's making a lot of money, making a lot of people happy. I once saw Dennis Allen at the Combine, And he was coming out of the men's room as I was going in, and he was very nice and held the door for me and couldn't have been a nicer gentleman. So I would support him as a head coach candidate,

if they were to go back to that. Not one of those guys who kind of, like, are weird and will try to, like, get by you because they don't want to touch the handle of the bathroom door. It's like, calm down, guys. No, he handled it very well. I was sick with the flu at the combine. Remember how sick I got?

And I was waiting in the airport, and I saw Dwayne Haskins go into one of the family stalls. Like the single stalls, like a family one. And he was in there for like 25 minutes. And I texted Eddie and I was like, this guy. I got a weird vibe, I'm telling you. And I called it, but carry on. That's a good story.

25 minutes. So what you camped out. That's a major red flag. I was sitting. You camped out. You were there waiting. I was at a restaurant. I was like eating trying to get some soup.

And I saw him go. There was like a mom and kids and he like went into the single bathroom. It might have been a medical. It might have been an emergency. The red flag could range from anything. Any number of things. but none of them good. No.

You've been holding on to that story like a pro for a while. Right. Drop the bomb. And Roggs sweet and a big spot. You know, Mark, you and I, it's become a little rivalry about the belief and failure to believe in Garder Minschew. I'm not going to pile on because it's one game against a great defense.

But I did think he's in trouble when I saw the ESPN profile that called him a genius this week. I said, oh, that's going to jinx him. He got jinxed them. It was a bad game. I mean, okay. But I think I look at the rest of the offense around Gardner-Minchu, and I feel like he's done a lot with a little.

They just don't seem to me to have all the parts. Alvin Camara looked very banged up in this game, and he's producing like a guy who's banged up. It wouldn't surprise me if they sat him down. It seems like a good idea. Any other thoughts on this game, gentlemen? I'm going to quit picking against the saint. Let's move on.

High formation, play action, Kirk, straight drop. Passed, fired. caught Diggs back in the end of the end of touchdown. Stefan Diggs just hit the touchdowns right back job. The game I should have locked. Oh, less. Sorry, bro. Paul Allen, Vikings Radio Network, Kirk Cousins,

Stefan Diggs, three times it worked. Kirk Cousins threw four touchdowns overall, through for 33. It is 131 a.m. yards, the Vikings. Destroyed the Eagles, 38 to 20 in Minneapolis. Greg, you have to hand it to the Vikings. Two weeks ago, they looked like a team on the brink of implosion. And after Sunday, they look like a team that can take out anyone in the NFC,

especially in their building. Four and two, we asked the question going into this game. And this is partly the question that got inside of Chris Wessling's head. Do the Vikings trust Kirk Kazan. We said it on Thursday. Do the Vikings trust Kirk Cousins to go over the top of the Eagles over and over because that is so clearly the way to beat them instead of trying to run into a brick wall? And you know what?

We found out the answer is yes, he can do it. I mean, he got Stefan Diggs almost to 200 yards by the beginning of the second quarter. I think Zach Brown was the linebacker of the Eagles who called Kirk Cousins the weak link of the Minnesota Vikings. Unfortunately, the weak link in this game was Sidney Jones. You don't want to ever just pick on one guy, but we do it with Cousins. And Sidney Jones, the cornerback for the Eagles, was just filleted up and down the field throughout the game, had some penalties. It was a disaster. Dan, sorry, you cannot continue with the sound.

I'm going to not going to last to this show. What? Which one? Just all of them. I don't mean. I want you to, but just my mind. That was stupid. No, Kirk Cousins, shout out to Kirk because I'm.

It's the every week Kirk update, Chris. I believe in you, Kirk. And he's a guy that you could hate on Kirk Cousins, and I get it. But he is not a guy to completely disregard because. Oh, no, this game didn't exist. It didn't happen on national TV with everybody watching, so it doesn't count for Kirk Cousins stats. I think this one doesn't, that doesn't fall under the classic Kirk Cousins dominant,

because this is against dominant performance, because this was against a good Eagles team. Maybe an Eagles team that's not quite as good as something. People, including myself, have thought them to be. Mark, I knew entering the season, you and I were on the same page on this. My mind is very confused about this right now about where Philly stands as a team through six weeks. But this has been a great bounce back by the whole teams, but especially Cousins, who was really under a lot of pressure to perform in the last two weeks.

And that's exactly what he's done. Shout out to Kurt Couss. I've been shredding the Vikings for just simply not believing in a lot of things about them. And I will be silent now because this is one that. about next week if they, you know. Well, no. And it's back to everybody thinking Kirk Cousins just flat out can't play football for some years. But I don't think, like, I think at least with the four of us, we've come to the conclusion

that it's not just simply a Kirk Cousins thing when the line was giving him constant issues. I think they correctly went and attacked an Eagles defense that outside of that Jets game, you know, minus Sam Darnel, which means nothing, as giving up about 27 points a week and is not a strong defense. And is that, I don't see the quick fix there how that's going to change. And the Vikings, you know, I wonder if. they had internal meetings at some point to say, we need to be more than just Dalvin Cook running the ball 35 times a game.

And there was maybe a bit of a look at the center of that entire controversy around the team. Two weeks ago, Adam Fieland spoke up. Stefan Diggs tried to pull an Antonio Brown for a moment there and I guess changed his mind. They said, we were really good on offense last year. Let us be us. And you could essentially have Dalvin Cook still be special while also keeping our passing game relevant. and competent, and that's what we've seen the last two weeks. Those things can tear our team apart from the inside out,

and the opposite has happened here. Right, and sometimes it just comes down to hitting one play, you know, and that just changes it. He hit a nice throw to digs early. Then there was a total busted coverage where he had two guys that could have had a 50-yard touchdown. He makes the right play on that, and suddenly you're rolling. But the difference between when I was watching these two teams,

the Eagles' offense, everything they do is hard and contested, and Carson Wentz is working really hard for it, and the receivers are working. working hard for and Howard and Sanders are working hard and no one's like no they're not that open you know I'm used to seeing things be a little easier where the scheme is helping out the Eagles and instead it's Carson Wentz needing to play really great to not even keep up with the Vikings and that's a problem the Vikings the Eagles offense also needs to be better it doesn't help the people wondering if Frank or the Frank Reich argument where you lose a lot of offensive

coaching talent and their offense is never talking about that Doug Peterson's a good coach he is a good He is. He is a good coach. There's no question about that. Frank Wright's a good coach. They've never been the same on offense. They need. So we can still talk about it.

They really miss Deshawn Jackson just because they don't have anyone that stretches the field. And that's a weakness of their roster right now, which everyone like me talked up because Aguilar is just not a guy you can rely on right now. And their rookie, Artega Whiteside, has not earned. Nice for that. I like that. I just didn't see it coming. They're also a team.

They need Deshaun. They have two losses that came on essentially dropped passes in the final minute or two. And they're tied for their division lead. They're tied for their division lead. Spoiler. They're okay, but they've been three and three is disappointing, I think. It is. I trust them to battle out of this too, but they're not a dominant looking.

By the way, hated, hated, hated late in the second quarter, because I think the game kind of got away from after this point down, I believe, was it 2410 at that point? and they have fourth down. They have a chance to kick a field goal, go into the half feeling good about themselves. Instead, they call a fake field goal, Jake Elliott throws an interception, and it was kind of all downhill from there.

I'm not saying that's why they lost the game, but I thought maybe take those points. You're coming back on them a little bit. Maybe it's a different outcome. But you know what? The Philly Special worked in the Super Bowl. This one didn't work. That's the way it goes sometimes.

Yeah, this Vikings team has one of the best home field advantages in the NFL. I've already said I'm not going to pick against them all year at home. Are you going to lock them up? No, but they close out the season. Too late, Wes. They close out the season with home games against the Lions, Packers, and Bears, their division in three of the final four games.

That is a huge advantage for a team that just doesn't lose at home. But also a lot of pressure. There's still, as much as I just tucked up cousins, those are games that he's going to have to slay some internal mind dragons. Speaking of. You know what Johnny Unitas would say? the quote is right above us as we tape this. Ooh, I like this. Talk is

cheap. Let's go play. Exactly. And that's what Estarne did on Sunday at the Middlelands. Shotgun for Prescott. Zeke Elliott to his left. Jets, with Elliot now motioning to the left. Come with a blitz. Prescott off his back foot.

Enzo! Incomplete! He threw it at the feet of Witten. And the Jets get the stock. I'm a two-point player. 43 seconds to go. Thank God. We get to hear the great Bob Waschusen of the Jets radio network. Jamal Adams perfectly timed blitz fouled up Dak Prescott's two-point conversion attempt

in the final minute, clinching a 24 to 22 win for the Jayman over the Cowboys at the medal end. Sam Darnold's return meant everything for the Jets who looked like a real-life NFL offense after weeks of ineptitude during Donald's bout with the Mark. Kissing disease normally suffering. by teenage boys and girls. Exactly. Tony Romo did this game with Jim Nance, which, you know, I think Tony Romo's calling the shots,

Wes, you know, these days. And the chance to not only cover a game featuring his old team, but the quarterback in Darnold, which we knew from last year that he thinks is special. And it all lined up because, especially in the first half, they cooled off a little bit in the second half, or a lot of it, I should say. But Darnold was lights out in, from,

about the midpoint of the first quarter through the end of the first half, the high point during a 21 point surge that put the jets ahead 21 to 3 and 216 of the half was a beautiful 92-yard touchdown pass, a gorgeous rainbow where he bought a little bit of time. And you see that he has such great footwork and he's such a fundamentally sound quarterback. And he's only 22 years old. It's what gets you so excited when you watch. and he's feeling right, but he threw a beautiful rainbow right into Robbie Anderson's hands

who takes it to the house. Anderson went over 100 yards, as you should when you have a 92-yard touchdown. I think Jameson Crowder hit 100 or perhaps 99 yards right on the nose. Basically, the Jets were back to being a real team again, which just tells you,

A, how horrible the Jets quarterback situation was without Darnold, and B, how promising Darnold is as a prospect. And how good the defense is? been too. They've kept them in games if they had a quarterback in this game they did and then they won it. Yeah, we've got this quote again, Greg. Talk is cheap. Let's go play. And I've been calling the Cowboys the most talented roster in the NFL. I still believe that, but they're not playing

to that talent. Today they're right out, their left tackle and their right tackle, two of the best tackles in the NFL. Their defense, same personnel as last year. They add Robert Quinn. The Marcus Lawrence is not playing nearly as well as last year. Coming off a very major surgery. And, Greg, you raised these points in August. Guys like DeMarcus Lawrence and Byron Jones, you can't just expect them to miss the entire offseason, come off surgery and play at the same Pro Bowl level they did a year ago, and they're not playing it.

They're not disruptive this year. I thought that Adam Gase was a huge winner today because we got to see someone who was able to coach using, as Romo mentioned, the entire playbook at his disposal, with a quarterback and Donald who threw the ball great. Who knew how he was going to look coming off of this absence? It's not an easy, like, illness. that he went through, and probably is still going through to some degree,

looked fantastic, and, you know, I have a childhood friend, Peter Acton, who you guys have met, who listens to every show and is a level-headed Cowboys fan who wrote me after and said, I, Garrett, it's time for Garrett to go. And I'll tell, well, that is. How many times has he said that in the last eight years? No, in fact, very, very infrequently because it's three games in a row against the Saints, Packers, and this inexcusable situation against the Jets. I mean, they were pretty banged up on the road.

They are, but they have been ill-prepared, too. They have no advantage from the coaching position, and good luck in the NFC. I'll say this, because the Jets season was so weird that when we were all going into week one, I think we were all on the same page that the Jets could be a very competitive team, maybe not a Super Bowl winner, but a team that could, if things broke the right way, win nine or ten games. And they looked like that for most of week one. Darnold disappears, and they're arguably the worst team in football.

Now that he's back with a Greg Williams defense that continues to perform well, the Jets are probably a pretty decent team. And I think it's no sin against the Jets with Darnold to lose when you're that banged up as the Cowboys were. Because not only were they missing the players we mentioned, Amari Cooper goes out after one catch for three yards. He's not right. And I will give Dak Prescott and the Cowboys offense credit. Zeke Elliott really heated up. He looked like Zeke in the second half.

And they were able to score those last two touchdowns. And they couldn't get the two-point conversion to force over. time. But they did put it in a fight. They didn't roll over and die at 21.3. And my last thought on this game is that in week one, and Donald was already feeling of the effects of the mono, which you could put into his performance, not being up to par against Buffalo. But one of my big disappointments from week one last time we saw him was he wasn't able to lead them in the fourth quarter when they needed a big drive. In this game, when the Cowboys started their charge and late in the fourth quarter, and they needed some insurance points.

Darnold let him down the field. They got the field goal, which ended up being the difference in a two-point game. So it was a big day of progress for the Jets. I think a next step for this offense is I'd love to see Levy on Bell have a game where he's doing the marvelous things that we're used to where he's dominated because that's why they signed him for the money they did. I think the line is going to be an issue getting in the way. But I think he has the potential to.

I love the game ending, though, on Jamal Adams blitzing on the two-point. conversion really to win because to me that's Greg Williams's defense and and Jamal Adams is clearly the leader of this team and it's going to be aggressive and Greg Williams is really good at improving the team he joins in year one and that the gains don't always hold into year three but man it's just a proven track record that in year one they play their ass off and they are this year they are not a talent heavy defense but they are playing pretty well this year all right let's move on so miami going for two and the win it's Patrick going to go under center two point conversion for the ball game Fitzpatrick takes throws it off it is muffed and the Redskins going to win

this ball game as they box the two point attempt don't even know what they were thinking I think it was going to be a trick play and the Redskins going to walk away with their first win of the year we'll take it heck yeah we'll take it coolie we'll take it yes they will take it yes they will Larry Michael and Chris Cooley of the Redskins Radio Network with the call. The Dolphins came so close to their first victory with the help of some fits magic, but a two-point conversion failed

and allowed the Redskins to escape with a 17 to 16 win, their first win of the season. Mark, somebody had to win. Somebody had to win. Someone had to win. And, you know, I could dig Russian novel style into the twists and turns of this game.

I don't know if anyone's begging for that. If you are, hit me up privately, and I will send you a personal voice recording. I would love to see like 552, you know, pages of words translated by Pavir and Volshansky, you know, into English that you wrote in the Russian for this. It's possible. That may be coming.

I mean, the thing that feels like it's no longer in the mix for the Dolphins is whatever they were planning to do with Josh Rosen this year, whatever they were planning to see, you know, days after they announced that he's going to go with them for the rest of the year as their starter. About two quarters? Yeah, I mean, he, and the one matchup concern for Miami every week, but I thought this week especially, Washington's pass rush, which has been active, which gave Tom Brady some fits a week ago, quickly dropped Josh Rosen to the mat five times in this game.

And both quarterbacks, Case Keatnam and Rosen, combined for about 120 yards passing in the first half plus. Rosa got benched, right? It got benched. It was abysmal. So what's going on with that? Ryan Fitzpatrick came in. Well, he got benched because he was getting battered left and right, and it looked terrible through two interceptions.

Fitzpatrick came in, and it's not surprising. He can see the field more quickly than Josh Rosen. He goes through his progressions more quickly. He's just the veteran guy that quickly brought life to the team and brought them back, and they had a chance to win the game with the two-point conversion. I don't want to tell you, I mean, the Redskins did exactly what they said they were going to do under Bruce Callahan.

They ran Adrian Peterson 23 times for 100-plus yards. It was not an impressive show. knowing it all, but they eeked out a win against two teams going literally nowhere right now. That recipe works against the worst team in the NFL. I don't know if it's going to work against any other team. I mean, and it only worked by, what, two yards, you know? It worked by a drop. Who knows if the dolphins kick that extra point.

I'm disappointed in the trend of going for two but failing. So this is the third time this year that I can think of off the top of my head. So you want them to go for two but win? going for two, but they're 0 for three this year. I think this is the third game this year where a coach has tried that to win the game and none of them have worked. And even if he didn't drop this pass,

it did not look like it was going. No, it was a terrible play call. Terry McLaren is maybe one of the lone bright spots for Washington this year for 100 in this game and two touchdowns. And Adrian Peterson, Mark, you mentioned. He went over 100 yards but did not score. I'm pretty sure he's just in the league now

so he can pass his boyhood hero, Walter Payton. the rushing touchdowns, all timeless. He's three behind right now. And when you go for 118 on a crappy Redskins team, you don't find the end zone. I bet he was sneaky annoyed that he didn't score today. He's got bills to pay. Certainly. All right, so the Redskins get the win, the Dolphins, dodge a bullet. Let's face it. They're not looking to fall behind the Redskins for the number one overall pick. So perhaps two teams won on Sunday. Let's face it. And let's move on. Second down in six. Pistol formation. Ingram is the back.

Jackson will keep it off the fake. Left side, 15, 10, 5. Jackson taken down the one-yard line, just shy of the pylon. No, they signal touchdown. He got in hitting the pylon. Jerry Sandusky, W-B-A-L with the call. Lamar Jackson was back in dominant mode on Sunday, running for a career high, 152 yards.

What? Then a touchdown, he threw for 236 yards, and he guided the Ravens past the Morabund. Cincinnati Bengals, 23 to 17. Greg, we talked about it on Thursday. Lamar was due for another banger, and a banger was delivered. Yeah, I mean, Lamar is a delight. And maybe right now he's a little more fun to watch than he is, like, a dominant top five quarterback.

But no one expected him to be a dominant top five quarterback right now. Maybe he's better in fantasy than he is in reality, because Lamar's a league winner right now. If you're rolling out Lamar every week and you drafted him in the 12th round, you're doing pretty good. in fantasy and for people that didn't watch this game don't worry about the final score don't worry that they didn't quite take advantage of all the opportunities that they had they held the ball for so much of this game and the two bengals touchdowns came on a kick return to open the game that's seven and then a garbage time touchdown with one minute left that's seven more the raven's defense played really well the raven's offense held the ball pretty much the whole game and it was

dominant and it's what you expect when a team that's not a, you know, a dormant plays the Bengals these days. They win easy. So we learn nothing. I think we learned the Ravens are two games up in the division and even though the Browns have the win over them, if the Ravens can be the type of team that takes care of business against bad teams and that their defense continues to get a little better, they're in good shape right now. I think we also learned that it's not a matter of if Lamar Jackson is going to eventually break Michael Vick's single game rushing record for a quarterback of 173 yards. It's when he could have done it today. He didn't run much at the very end of the game, but he is an absolute monster running the football.

He has three career 100 yard games tied with who, Wes, Billy Kilmer for most by a quarterback in his first two seasons. I was not expecting that. Oh, Billy, Fast Shoes, that's what they call. Wes is definitely looking for the heat-seeking trivia questions at 204 a.m. And Jackson's first 100-yard game came last November when he first played the Bengals. I was just thinking that, speaking of that, we're past 2 a.m. now here at the Big Tot. This is definitely a record itself for the longest anyone's ever worked at this building. I think we could put ourselves in the record books for that.

Lamar did set a record, too, by the way. No one else had ever run for 150 and passed for 10. 200. How about a little, Mark and Taylor said that he was, it's like the rarest athlete or one of them that he's ever seen on a football field. It's like, what can you really come up with? Because a lot of the plays he ran were not called runs, of course. They were scrambles on third and longs.

And that was kind of key to their own. Another fantasy winner is Mark Andrews, if you got him at tight end, I think he is perfect for this offense. Oh, remember, remember. And the old fantasy preview from on high, Mr. Evan Silva laughed his little head off. off at the Mark Andrews, Lamar Jackson double sandwich, I was suggesting. Eat it, Silva. Credit to what you say at 2 in the morning, Greg.

That may come back to him. He is a large man. For your talding ability. Silva had some logic behind it, but sometimes the player is just really good. And I'm sure in that same preview I had to defend Christian McCaffrey at some point. And I also said to draft Jordan Reed. So, you know, they can all be winners. All right.

So Lamar Jackson, undoubtedly, a star on the rise of quarterback. Oh, now. Oh, look, it's a falling star. Three to the right to the left on this third and nine. Jack and snap, five-man pressure. Mario, you're looking for a place to go down. He throws the ball. The ball will be intercepted by Justin Simmons.

Dave Logan, Broncos Radio Network with the call Sunday, October 13th, 2019. The end of the Marcus Marieto era in Nashville. The fifth-year passer struggled mightily against the Broncos, failing to leave the Titans past midfield before giving way to Ryan Hannah Hill, who fared no better. The Fongios, Broncos, get the shutout win. What was the 13-Zip, Wes? 16.

16-Zip. Hey, Wes, you seemed almost pleasurably disturbed by the game as you watched it. This game was exactly what we all thought it would be. By the beginning of the fourth quarter, I think Marcus Mariotta had led an offense that had 88 total yards. He had a single-digit passer rating. Through the first two interceptions of the year, when he finally stopped taking sacks. The Broncos at that point were one for 12 on third downs, and the only touchdown in the game came from a guy who lives with his parents.

That was the line of the day from Wes. That was Philip Lindsay. He's a good player. But there were some takeaways in this game. Marcus Mariotta and this offensive line are a combination that just has run its course. We don't need to see it anymore. It's not working. They went, they had seven points.

and about a seven-quarter stretch going back to last week. Ryan Dan Hale came in and took even more sacks than Marcus Mariotta. He had four sacks. They had a chance to finally break the end zone and another fourth down debacle. The Titans just are broken on offense, and I don't know how much of it's on their first-year offensive coordinator, Arthur Smith, but it does seem like Mike Vrable, when he was looking for an offensive coordinator,

one of one who's willing to play games that never. go over 20 points. Did, how did Tannahill look? Doesn't seem like he got the offense sparked by his final score. I mean, he had more than double the yardage. He moved the chains a little bit better, but you never know in a game like that. How much of it is that the defense is taking his foot off the gas pedal a little bit? They're up comfortably at that point.

I think he came in and moved the sticks, but I don't, after the game, they talked about, and Mike Vrable didn't sound like he's ready to make a change and nobody knows what they want to do yet. They're going to, you know, they gave the old lettuce. just watch the film thing, and we'll talk about it and come up with an answer. But once you make the in-game change, whether or not he starts next week, it just seems like what everyone is saying here, that this feels like potentially the beginning of the end, because now he's, what happened today lets you know that he's used up all of his rope.

He's not the same quarterback. I mean, believe it or not, when Marcus Mariotta first entered the league, he was fun to watch. And the Titans' offense was fairly fun to watch at that point. And he's regressed along with his past protection. Montgomery Barkey back. I think that'll solve everything. No matter who you put a quarterback for the Titans, it's going to look like Marcus Mariotta.

We should give, uh, we should give Vic Fonjo, um, some credit here. His, uh, defense gets a shout out, had a nice, you know, game in Los Angeles last week. Well, I'm just going to put this out there. They play on Thursday night. They play the Kansas City Chiefs who've lost two in a row. Probably the Broncos, you know, they're an underdog in that game. But should they win that game, they are one game back in the AFC West? They could be, three and four.

They could be tied for first now. Okay. Come on. Are we going to talk ourselves into the Broncos? No, I'm not. I'm just saying they have a meeting coming up on Thursday and they're a little worried Emmanuel Sanders hurt. Their offense doesn't look very good.

But they have something to play for Thursday night and then try to figure things out. Well, let's give them credit for a defense. They've made two huge changes that have paid off in the last two weeks. They moved Alexander Johnson into the starting lineup at inside linebacker. He's given them a lot more athletic ability, more speed, more playmaking ability. that has worked great. He got the game ball last week, had nine tackles today and another sack and a half.

And then they moved Mike Purcell into the starting lineup at Nose Tackle. Shelby Harris moved outside the defensive end where he made so many plays last year before they moved him to Nose Tackle. And now he's making plays again. DeMarcus Walker, one of the reserves, had two sacks today's.

This is a different defense than they were earlier in the year. I mean, that Jacksonville Jaguars game that they lost in inglorious fashion and it had a lot to do with the whole sort of full team break. down they were dominant in the first half of that game defensively so you could go back a couple weeks here bad offense absolutely but the chargers game they played well i do want everyone though out there if you're just a game pass head and you're going to crank through

the game let's workshop that one um when you're watching this game just think this is the west bowl this is football as approved by what titans broncos fercer dashan hamilton it's all happening And this is the type of brand of football left us is into. Let's correct this narrative. The only reason I had this game was because the other three you guys messed up the draft order. It wasn't because I wanted it. We didn't mess up the draft order. We sure did.

How is it that I draft last and I have more games and are your teams? That's bad math. You're on this. I wound up with two games and I watched West the entire, you know, from wire to wire this game, simply endure Broncos tights. It seemed to go on forever. It's bad football. I mean, good, good Broncos.

Bronco's defense, but I mean, I don't know. The Titans offense is broken, so who know, who knows? All right, let's keep on rolling. Third down and five of the Cardinal 30. Murray takes play action. He's rolling right, and he's looking to run. He's on the near side, and he's close to the first down as he stepped out. They spot it right at the 35-yard line.

It looks like enough to move the chains and win the game with a minute 38 to go. Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray Dave Pash Cardinals Radio Network with the call Kyler Murray Dan has had a stroke You're all growns up and you're all growns up

And you're all groans up and you're all growns up Maybe the number one tick ended his finest day as a pro With a third down run that picked up a first down And clinched a 34 to 33 win for the Cardinals over the Falcons. The game would have been tied at that moment had Matt Bryant not missed an extra point on Atlanta's previous possession, Greg.

This was a great QB duel between a former MVP and a rookie with potential to win an MVP himself one day. Am I right? About as entertaining a game can be with two fun quarterback performances that doesn't really mean much. at all. And the Cardinals and the Falcons are kind of prone to playing these sort of games right now because the Falcons, as I said last week, they will give your offense rhythm. If you're out of rhythm, just show up against Dan Quinn's team and start the game off with a 57-year-drive field goal, 93-yard-drive touchdown, 79-yard-drive touchdown, 71-yard-yard-drive touchdown. These are the Arizona Cardinals we're talking about. It's not exactly the 99 Rams, but I give Clifford.

Kingsbury and Murray credit. The receiver group is so thin. I mean, it's Demir Bird and Sherfield, you know, behind Larry Fitzgerald. You're just working off Murray and play calls and David Johnson, and you're making it work against a veteran team in Atlanta that's been together for a long time and is just completely imploding on defense. My one takeaway watching this was that every time I looked up, Kyler Murray was finding, in one case, it was David Johnson,

and another it was Max Williams, guys who were wide open with no one within 20 or 30 yards of them. And one of them led to a 30 yard gain, another 20, and they led to scoring drives. And the Falcons defense feels like one of the first this season that has essentially just stopped listening to coaching with whatever is happening. They just feel broken. They look like they've given up. They were completely schooled today. And this was Dan Quinn's calling card. for a while it worked. And I remember talking about

how the Falcons would be a team that would draft these guys and develop them so quickly, and there was a vision and an identity and it's all been whisked away. Dan Quinn probably won't survive this unless there's some type of great turnaround. And undoubtedly he'll get a defensive

coordinator job next year. Maybe even gets another head coaching job right at the gate. I don't think we've seen the last of Dan Quinn as a relevant head coach who has success. But you do get the feeling that this is one of those situations where things have kind of run their course for Quinn in Atlanta. And we'll see. We'll be very wrong about that. But things just do not

seem to be going in the right direction and it doesn't seem unlikely to change. This 2019 football season is percentage points worse because the Falcons are wasting Matt Ryan. He is playing at such a high level. And if anyone, listeners out there, if any of your friends tell you Matt Ryan isn't playing well, he's no good, it's the biggest giveaway yet. This This person has no idea what they're talking about. They're not watching games. They are ignorant. Feel free to tell them all that.

Yeah, we should point out. There's bad people. Ryan had, yeah, these people, get new friends. Watch football games. Six incompletions today. He dropped back and threw the ball 36 times. Six incompletions, four touchdowns, 356 yards, and led them again on what proved to be a fruitless but furious second half comeback.

So they've at least made their games a little. fun to watch ultra depressing this team one and five pretty good turn of phrase Greg at a two 15 in the morning hey parent fruitless and furious in a big spot talk is cheap let's go play uh all right there's one more game to talk about tonight we won't be doing it it's going to be the electric dynamic west is even a little nervous about it should because the chemistry is so off the hook it is lekeisha jackson westling and yes you know him as kyle the boy wonder from kicking and screaming the somewhat well received 2005 comedy starring Will Ferrell as a soccer coats and also he's trying to get his wife back because he just wants to be with his kids

I never saw the movie don't know anything about it in that film a lot of us you know dense rich subplots anyway you got whistling a different wrestling you got Bergman they're talking Sunday night football so let's throw to them rivers under center with a one back look two tights to the left throw the street There's a lateral and it's a lateral and the Steelers pick it up and they got it to the 10 five and is Devin touchdown into the end zone for a defensive touchdown that was a lateral was a backless pass recovered by the defense the defense the pocket is a touchdown and as as philip rivers was trying to flare pass it out to ingram he went way over his head and Bush picked it up and ran in for a touchdown that was a great play That is Bill Hillgrove and Tunch Ilkin from Steelers Radio Network with the call. That was Steelers rookie linebacker Devin Bush on a nine-yard fumble recovery for a touchdown to put the first points on the board for the Steelers

and their 24 to 17 win over the Chargers in L.A. I'm Lakeisha Wesleyan, aka the Paramore. I have Jeremy Bergman to my left and Steve Manny behind the glass. What's happening? Thank you for having me. tonight. What up, what up? Welcome. We're basically filling in for the heroes right now. They had, what, like a 16-hour day? It was a long day. They were whining a little bit about it. Erica Tampozy, going strong past 4 a.m. Oh, yeah. 4.30 a.m. still going strong. And that was when the football game was still going on. So if they would have did this. Correct. She watched the whole thing. The other guys I don't know about. Lekeesh was in London this morning, right? And you just got

off a plane and came right to the office. Yesterday. Yesterday. Got back here. Yesterday. evening and just kind of slept all night and just back at it again. Looking a little rough, though. That's how much he cares about work, folks. She cares about work that much. All right. Well, let's just get right into the Steelers. It was Devin Bush.

You had a good, huge game, Jeremy. First quarter, Devin Bush was on the receiving end of two turnovers from Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers had a rough game. But it really went downhill right from the start when Rivers, you heard it on the replay, through that backward lateral toward Melvin Gordon in the, the flat and it went five yards behind the line of scrimmage. Push, Bush picked it up and ran it back in. And then Rivers on the next possession throws a pick that was tipped at the line of scrimmage and Bush was on the receiving end of that. The Steelers go down and score right after.

It's 14-0 in the first quarter. You know, there are few Chargers fans in sight. The stadium's going wild with terrible towels. And you can just see it, you know, snowballing from there. the Chargers went down eventually 24-0, and then, you know, they couldn't come back from that. Yeah, it looks like Devin Bush was everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere until he got hurt in the third quarter or in the first half, and they had to take him out a bit. But he came back. He's a defensive rookie of the year candidate. He's had a really strong start to the year. He's not the only player that's playing really well on Pittsburgh's defense right now, which has had to pick up the offense as they've gone through the injuries. T.J. Watts played really well. Cam Hayward, the same. But

Evan Bush making a name for himself on national television, and part of the reason why the Steelers got their second win of the year this tonight. Oh, yeah. Another Steelers player who had a big game was James Connor running back. They basically gave him the ball majority of the game and just kind of held the offense on his back. Yeah, this was something we'd seen in week four when the Steelers came back to Pittsburgh. Oh, and three, Mason Rudolph making his first start.

They said, we're taking the ball out of Rudolph's hands. We're putting it in Connor and Janele and Samuel's hands. Same thing happened this week with Devlin Hodges, a undrafted rookie free agent out of Samford, making his first start because Rudolph is still in concussion protocol or something like that. It was James Connor from the get-go on the Steelers' first scoring drive. Connor touched the ball on all seven of the Steelers' plays, and then he caught the 12-yard catch-and-run to end that drive. He became the first Steelers since 93 to log a receiving touchdown, rushing touchdown, and at least 90-plus yards from scrimmage in the first half. That was indicative of just how the Steelers wanted to go about this game. Take it out of Hodge's hand.

Tell the rookie, do what you got to do. Don't throw the ball too far. He only threw the ball 10 yards past the line in scrimmage four times, and one of those passes was intercepted, none were completed. So it was the running backs game tonight until he got hurt, and then it was Benny Snell's game. But the Steelers came out with the win regardless. So how did you think Devlin did for his first NFL start?

You know, Hodges did what he had to do. Steelers told him, like I said, you know, don't throw the ball too far. It didn't work when he did try to test the ball downfield. Juju was not a factor. Moncrief was not a factor. Neither was Deonté Johnson. The game really went through James Connor between the line of scrimmage and 10 yards past the line of scrimmage.

So I think he made smart decisions, only one interception, a few mistakes. And, you know, the duck caller. You took the words out of my mouth. The duck collar. You had a quack of a game. game what had it yeah he won what is a duck calling champion yeah i think Alabama state champion they played a clip uh on the broadcast of him making the duck call uh I thought he should have tried it at the line of scrimmage maybe that would have you know thrown the charges off but he

didn't need it so that's how i got the nickname duck dynasty if you if you want to know all i will say on a day that gardner minchu maybe came down to earth a bit minchumania at home kind of taken a dip into the jacksonville waters I think that hodges is taking uh leaping minchew in the power rankings for like southern swag of like a quarterback that you didn't really hear of before the season. I think Hodges is now one Minchu one A. And Devlin has that real southern. Real Southern. Surprising in the postgame interview with Defoea. Real shocking has a southern accent. And now on the Chargers side, Phillip Rivers, yeah, did not look like a Hall of Fame quarterback. Like I kept saying like, what the heck is going on? I don't know. I think

this is the two weeks with Philip Rivers kind of throwing the game away in the first quarter. The charges went down 14-0-0 because of Philip Rivers' poor decisions. Listen, it's not all his fault. He's going to go into the Hall of Fame probably. But, you know, the offensive line, you're missing pouncy. He's on IR. You have to move Dan Feene to center. Sam Tevey is still at right tackle. Russell O'Coon hasn't played at left tackle all year. The offensive line is a mess. Anthony Lynn said it after the game. He said that even with the running game and the passing game, it's mostly the blocking up front that is not giving Rivers, Gordon, Echler, these guys time to make plays.

And, you know, Rivers came back in the second half and the Charger scored 17 points to close out the game in the fourth quarter with him hitting Hunter Henry, Mike Williams, and Keenan Allen, but it wasn't enough. And, you know, Rivers did look a little shook. They asked Anthony Lynn after the game, did you ever think about going to Tyrod Taylor and Lynn shut it down? I mean, Rivers is not the entire problem here, but there's something wrong with this offense, and it starts with the decision-making a quarterback right now.

And I have to say this, because Tony Dudgey said this during the broadcast at halftime. Like, it's inexcusable for the charges to play like that. Like, that's how bad the first half was. It's inexcusable to go down to Devlin Hodges. No offense to Devlin Hodges, but, you know, this offense is, they're broadcasting what they want to do. You know, they want to throw the ball short. They want to run the ball. And even on the defensive side of the ball, like, you can't let them in it.

You know, Pittsburgh couldn't make mistakes. And the Chargers, all they needed to do was not. not make mistakes. And the Chargers committed, you know, these three turnovers, two of which came in the first four minutes of the game. And that's how you let bad teams win in your home, even though your home is being invaded by a bunch of Pittsburghians. I don't know what you call them. Definitely was a Steelers home game there. And then like the Chargers didn't even get any points until the fourth quarter. That's right. And what was it? Hunter Henry, he scored like two touchdowns, too little too late. Yeah, Hunter Henry was inactive for most of the year and then

came back today. That's one of the main positives that came out of this one for the Chargers. Eight catches, 100 yards, two late scores, unstoppable in the red zone. Philip Rivers was really strong between 10 and 20 yards past the line of scrimmage, and Hunter Henry was on the receiving end of a lot of those plays, but it was too little too late. You know, it's good to have Henry going forward in addition to Mike Williams, who looked a little banged up as well in Keenan Allen. But, you know, you also saw the return of Melvin Gordon for the second straight game where he's had a really rough go of it coming off that holdout. Ten touches, 45 total yards again. Anthony Lynn said after the game that the offensive line wasn't opening up lanes for him.

But, you know, the chargers were really strong with Austin Echler as the starter, catching passes out of the backfield, running the ball in the early goings of the season. You bring Gordon back into the equation and suddenly the offense is broken. You know, part of that is, again, the offensive line. Yeah. Part of it is not. The trade deadline is October 29th. Make of that what you will.

See what happens. So final score for them, Steelers 2417. Steelers tied for both of them are third place in the AMC North and the AFC West. That's right. The Chargers are two and four with the Broncos who got their second win. But, you know, we thought that the AFC West was a division where it's the Chargers and the Chiefs going game for game. And with the Chiefs, you know, losing two strong. straight. This is a real missed opportunity for the Chargers to actually make a run at it. In the

AFC North, suddenly, because the Browns, you know, Baker Mayfield can't throw to people in his uniform, Browns are two and four. The Steelers are also two and four. And, you know, I think this is going to be an interesting race in the wild card where there's not a lot of deep teams in the AFC. So maybe the Steelers can make a run of it. They have a buy so Mason Rudolph can get healthy. and then right after that they get three straight home games, the first of which is the Dolphins. And so you might be looking at three and four going into week nine. All right.

Well, we shall see. That is it for us in Culver City. Have to do a shameless plug. If you haven't yet, please check out my YouTube video series called NFL on court. And if you like it, go ahead and hit that subscribe button. Pop them bottles. Oh, yeah.

All right, let's send them back to the heroes who are finishing up an amazing week in London, Dan. All right. Thank you to Kish and Bergo, who again, for any streaming service, there's a blockbuster around you, kicking and screaming. Great work is Kyle. The lesser of the two, by the way. Look for the one that looks more engaging. It's the other one. And if you're into more, you know, current forms of entertainment, NFL on Corked on YouTube, hosted by Lakeisha. But now hosted by Lakeisha and Bergman because that last thing went so well. All right. So it's time to get out of here. It's time to not only get out of. this episode and this commissioner's suite here at the big tott um tottenham stadium here

hot tautenum hotspur stadium here in london thank you they've been very nice to us uh everyone the staff but we want to thank all the people that helped get us to london for a second straight uh year nick pike at the nfl u k office great chap charlie copsey uh over at the underground fan club who handled our curtain club show which we didn't even get a chance to talk about today Maybe we'll do that on Wednesday, our next show. The Sky people, Neil Reynolds, Hannah Wilkes, Alex Mason, Patrick Crowley, all great people. Also, the NFL UK team, Charlotte Offer, Jamie King, Hannah Cook, Simon Gunby. He handled the camera shooting.

Great job, man. That's not easy to do for 12 hours. Barbara Ihern. And then Alistair Kirkwood. That's Barry Ihern. Sorry, Barry Ahern. We love you, Barry. Kirkwood, Shannon Jones, and of course, Henry Hodgson, and of course the great Mark Brady, who's staring at me right now, who did great work with us all week and organized this whole venture.

And we are eternally grateful to Mark as well. So we get on a plane and head back to the States. And, of course, I mean, I'd be remiss not to say thank you to Erica Tamposi, who in addition to being our producer. and friend, did a lot of heavy lifting of heavy cases that really built up her forearms and buys and tries, which maybe she just said, you know, thank you to us for that because your bod is probably improved as a result of this. You're welcome. She's actually had to work out with the Patriots.

She might take their full back position coming up in week seven. All right. So I'm opening the bottle right now. I was not kidding. How much was this? We don't know. Well, I think it's roughly $896. dollars.

Mark Brady's got it in his budget. That's not break anything here. Okay. So we'll be back on Wednesday, as we said. Usually we do a Tuesday show, but we got to get on a plane. We are going to be jet lagged. Ricky's going on another vacation, which seems weird, but we'll give her a pass because she was so great during this trip. Thank you to everybody for listening.

Thank you to all the UK people here. Don't worry about it, Greg. All the UK folk. Dan on corking the bottle nearly hit the fire alarm device for all the great work and all the fans here who were all so nice except for the one guy that spit all over us but you were drunk so we let you up though too you know who you are I've been spit on before by many men this is oh this is Dan Hansa signing off for the quiet story from that man the old boss Ricky Hollywood and Mark Brady from the commissioner of sweet thank you. for the Prosecco. Till Wednesday. Hey everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here.

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