NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2021 Week 12 Recap & BTS of BTS

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap every game from week 12 starting with the Packers and Rams. Nick Shook joins to talk the team of Zues-TL and Sess-TL going head to head and also what is happening with the Steelers. While Gregg's wife and daughter are at the BTS concert next door at Sofi Stadium, the heroes also recap SNF between the Browns and Ravens. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Greg Rosenthal Mark Sessler Week 12 Sunday night flagship show Listen Everybody knows You don't even have to count the games

Until you get past Thanksgiving And that's when it starts to matter In professional football And now here we are Back after this I mean No, there's a lot of teams that would be excited if that was true. The Bears are undefeated by that method.

So are my jets. I like to think that anything that I did that annoyed anyone on the home front or beyond before Thanksgiving is also. No, it's wiped off. For the whole year, just in the season. My entire lifetime up until this. It's all purged. And I saw them for five minutes this morning. And it was pristine behavior on my talk.

And of course, that sentiment doesn't really hold a ton of water. but it also comes from like the Belichick's and the parcels of the world who've been around it. There's something to it. It makes some sense, right? Yeah, well, that's what I was going to get to. Like there is something to it because this is when you separate the pretenders fall away now

when you get into December. But then again, every season's a beautiful flower and this is a strange little sucker, this flower. So I feel like we don't have any real answers at all entering December. So, you know, it's all kind of. coming together in real time. This flower is like, remember that Gregor Mendel would like toy around with like plant and flower

DNA to create mad things? That, that's what this is, you know, essentially a Gregor Mendel season. I'm going to pretend I get the ref and be like, I totally agree. Eric gets it, I know. Are you aware of the Gregor, Gregor Mendel? Oh, yeah. Gregor Mendel. Yes.

Yeah. All right. We'll look it up. Good take. Good take. It's a really good one. That's talk about a good take. Greg is ready to shoot me with an arrow.

And there's not seem impressed with what... And there's also another little element going on here. The brownies, Mark's favorite team, and Mark's passion for his favorite sports team really is unlike anything any of us have ever seen before. And they're playing as we tape right now. So we, you know, there's a lot cooking, emotional. I know you like to keep it on the surface. It's not something that's churning within you. But we know it is.

And if you want to kind of get anything out there before we get going, on the games, maybe some, what do they call it, third rail, what to avoid, anything to make this more pleasant for you and us. I like our efficient approach. We started on time, which is highly unusual for us. But on top of it, there is a high-octane BTS concert, a boy band from South Korea, operating at so far right now. So we're going to have to get out of here.

And at the minute this ends, we've annoyed Chris Rose highly once again, because he wanted to watch the Browns with us. With you. And we explain all that. But it's just like a pull me back into the Browns scene. This is like the third act of a Paul Thomas Anderson movie where there's all these different things happening at the same time. And they're all connected. And there's just a lot of energy in the air and a lot of it is chaotic.

That's right. All right. Emeka and my daughter Alice are at the show too. That's like a little story that might be tracking. We might be tracking. And then, you know, when I don't even know a single member of BTS. Yeah, so I can't even name drop here. When he, like, shoots up through the riser and the smoke machine comes out,

then your daughter looks to her right and it's just the empty seat where you should have been. And then she turns back. And she's like, oh, well, then all of his listeners would have missed out on that trenchant Falcons Jags analysis. What a day for Patterson. Where is my daddy? Is Daddy ever coming home? Let's get into the games. No, that's good.

That's good power work by you and Emma. getting the BTS tickets in a big spot. Very nice. At the height of their popularity, getting inside that building. Yeah. A lot of work. We don't know. Who knows?

They're tremendously popular pop group. Let's get going. Let's start at Lambo Field where BTS is not performing. And here's the snap. Stafford, tight pocket. Hit as he throws left side. He intercepted. Down the right sidelines,

Declos, to the house. High-stepping. Touchdown, Green Bay. and a third quarter, dagger! It's 36 to 17. In all our years doing this, and since we introduced the local radio call calls, still my favorite trope is the second banana,

just screaming out in exultation. Yeah, yeah, like straight up a fan. I will be heard too. I have no idea that I'm getting paid to be in the booth right now. I'm just excited that my favorite team did something good. That individual usually, there is some alcohol involved, I believe, or something. Well, in the 70s, maybe. Well, the good old days.

Or that one booth where the service woman climbed in and there was a full bar, apparently. That was a weird story. Still weird. That was in Baltimore. Yes. They got in Sandusky's booth in a big spot. Don't do that. Larry McCarran, that was, I believe, yelling, yeah, with Wayne Larravey, W-TMJ.

Razul Douglas picked off Matthew Stafford, took it all the way. His pick six was the key play in the second half for the Packers, who beat the Rams 36, 28, and a battle between two Super Bowl or bust squads. Interesting game here. Matthew Stafford threw three touchdown passes, including long strikes to Van Jefferson and Odell Beckham, which kind of got him back in the game a little bit in the fourth quarter. But it was an imperfect game for the veteran quarterback whose health issues were a big storyline

entering the game. As for the Packers, gentlemen, their own veteran quarterback, Aaron Rogers looked far less than 100% healthy by the end of this game. He's limping around on that COVID toe. But all the Packers do with Matt LaFleur in the regular season is win. They're 9 and 3, and they stay a step behind the idle cards in the NFC. This Packers team's impressive. We don't need to go through the laundry list of injuries that they've had, that they've overcome,

the guys who are coming back, like, that's just part of their story. And they don't let it sidetrack them at all. and they've got something, you can't totally quantify it. And I think that's something that the Rams having put this team together. And it's not like this is a brand new team. They have a lot of pieces that have been there and won a lot of games. But Stafford, and now you add OBJ to the mix, you lose a team captain and Robert Wood, specifically Stafford missing a lot of throws looking a little banged up.

Like you can't just create that instant familiarity and chemistry on offense. It's an offensive league. And the fact that their offense was inferior to the Packers' offense in this spot, like in this week, is not a good sign for them down the line. Yeah, I thought they were one of the more desperate teams coming out of their by week, just the way that they spoke about their own, you know, what had happened before the break. And this, I left with more concerns. It starts with Matthew Stafford looking just simply not healthy on any level. The defense allowed Green Bay to pile up 40 yards of possession time. And the better team won, there's just no question it.

They played 10 times, I'd say Green Bay takes eight of them. Whoa. I thought, yeah, I thought that Green Bay for a game that was a little jagged and there wasn't like a ton of flow to it, but it still felt like the Packers really in control the entire way. And that Douglas interception and the runback pretty much cinched it. And, you know, Stafford could have thrown more than the I-N-T. By the way, that's pick sixes in three straight games for Stafford now.

Also lost the fumble, so another tournament. Lost a fumble. They were unable to get their running game. going, you know, they had the splash plays to Jefferson and Beckham, but other than that, it was, you know, just not a lot cooking. It just feels like Los Angeles is out of sorts and, you know, how desperate can a team be when you're going into a game seven and three? But at the same time, now you, when you put these back-to-back-to-back games together where you just don't look good and you don't look cohesive, and yes, now we're turning the calendar over to

December, I think there is legitimate cause for concern that you're trying to, you're trying to operate like some type of chemistry experiment on the fly here, and there's no promise that's going to work out. Green Bay at the same time is a team that knows who they are. They know their personnel. Their coaching staff is intact. They know their personnel and how to run the best version of what the team does best. It's just two different teams right now. And they're heading into their biweek too, which they have to be thrilled to get in there at 9 and 3 through these two games. And the chemistry, it's not just Stafford. It's their defense too. You You know, their defense has been mediocre this year, and when they've been in big spots,

I don't think they've particularly impressed. They're not terrible. They're just not, like, a difference-making group. And everyone wants to say how Stafford's hurt, and that's a big fact. And maybe it is. But I just feel like the Stafford we've seen this year is the Stafford we've seen in Detroit, too, which is there's ups, there's downs. Like, he's not Aaron Rogers.

He will never be Aaron Rogers. Being on Sean McVeigh's team doesn't make him Aaron Rod. You know what I mean? Or Pete Brady or whatever. To me, he's a little bit of an erratic quarterback, and I think you've seen that the last year of a week. Our first couple months of Stafford, or let's say first five, six weeks,

suggested that maybe we were getting a different version. Inside an offense that was ready to go, I see one weakness on Green Bay. It is Mason Crosby. I understand that he's, you know, dyed in the wool fan favorite to some degree. I'm not sure he's a fan favorite right now. I mean, at one point, they basically said from the L of 38,

we have got to punt the ball, Because Crosby, we don't trust the guy. I mean, he leads the league and miss kicks. If they get into a tight one, they don't trust them right now. I think he's an example, Crosby, of why relationships matter. Because I think we know it's on record that he's very close with Aaron Rogers, that he's been there forever. He's built up a lot of goodwill.

But you wonder at what point is he used up that goodwill. Can you trust him when it really counts? And I'm looking at it, like, on the ramp side of the ball, you know, the Von Miller trade, it's still too early to put any grade on that. but he had one quarterback hit in this game and the other hit he had in the quarterback resulted in a 15-yard penalty. Aaron Donald was quiet in this game. He had one quarterback hit.

We didn't see a game-changing play from Jalen Ramsey, but that doesn't always obviously tell the story with a cornerback. But at the same time, it's like when they needed someone to step up and make a play and turn the tide of a season that's all of a sudden getting a little bit away from them, nobody was there to do it. So I think there's a lot of reason. There's reason to be frustrated and concerned with the Rams and if you're the Packers or a Packers fan. You love it. And it's like, keep winning because they are 5 and 0 at home.

And they just look so tough to beat in that building this year. It really feels like the one seat's going to come down to Arizona in Green Bay. In Green Bay, as we know, has the tiebreaker over the Cardinals. This game specifically is going to make it a lot tougher for the Rams to win that division, much less get the one seat. Green Bay does have the Ravens, Browns, and Vikings down the stretch after their final five games. It's not a cinch, but you just trust them. All right. We restart. to trust the Indianapolis cults

after a killer run but beaten Tom Brady and the bucks. Oh, that's a whole different machine. Here's the snap. Animal. He has the ball off running to the left. He's for a net inside the 20-1.

Step on the speed to the 15-10, 5, 3, 2, 1. That's what I meant. Touchdown Leonard for a net. Touchdown Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Whoa, is that the dagger? I hope so with 20 seconds left. I mean, how dare I, you know,

ramble over Gene Decker-Hoff? W-F-U. S. Lenny Fournett broke the tie with a 28-yard of scoring run with 20 seconds to play. It lifted the Bucks to a 3831, come from behind win over the Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium. It was the fourth touchdown of the game for Fournett, who, by the way, if you watch the bucks week after week since Brady got there, Lenny's a big part of what they do on offense. And he's always at the center of things, it seems, even though he's not necessarily the most, you know what was the old west saying that he was like a ship that had to change direction

battleship fornett right it's you know it's not going to happen gracefully it was like a battleship trying to turn around in the middle of the sea fornett has now forged a successful NFL career i still kind of agree with west's take back in the day he doesn't move like as nimbly as a big time running back he's a different player in a better place but everything is set up well for him now and he is succeeding so the difference in this game though was turnovers uh india had five of them four and then a desperation heave for an I&T on the last play of the game. And then Brady, doing what Brady does, made Indy pay for those first turnovers,

turned them into points each time. And this was a game that turned on one play. The Colts played excellent football in the first half. I mean, I'm watching the Colts on the first half, and I'm watching Carson Wentz. And I'm thinking to myself, like, is this 27, 2017 Carson, Carson Wentz on the 2021 Colts? And if it is, paired with Jonathan Taylor and these defense. of players and the coaching like what is the ceiling of this team

they're up 10 points at the half they get the ball to start the third quarter they had first in 10 at the Tampa Bay 20 they have a chance to go up 17 in the third quarter and then Mark's boy Shaquille Barrett surges around sacks went strips them of the ball

recovers the ball at the 35 six plays later four net scored on a four yard run and that started the comeback and thought it was really impressive what the Bucks were able to do on the road to get the game-changing play and then just turn it into a snowball situation. Now, they go ahead and then they, finally the Colts give the ball to Jonathan Taylor. They went a large swath of this game, not giving it to Taylor if you'd believe that.

He ties the game up with a touchdown of the fourth quarter, but they couldn't stop Brady on the final drive ending with that four-net touchdown. So a nice fun back-and-forth game, but the Colts are going to kill themselves when they watch just tape because they, if they don't turn the ball over like that, there's no way they lose. Well, and Antoine Winfield Jr. said that that was their focus and their mindset all week. They had to take the ball away from the Colts. To reverse what Indy did to Buffalo, and a takeaway I have is that the Colts watched everything the bills have done on defense and said, we are fearless, we're going to run the ball nonstop against that defense. But they saw something

different with the Bucks. And Arians after the game basically said, anyone that tries to run on us is going to hit a wall at some point real quick and have to shift what they do. A couple other notes, like I thought Grunkowski has, he is looking as good as he has in years. He's a huge part of this offense. And Leonard Fournette, next gen stats points out 17 rushes, faces zero stacked boxes. I understand you don't stack the box against Leonard Fornett, but he burned him for that. He burned him for that. They didn't adjust on how well he was playing down the stretch.

When I look at Grunk, I use the Frankenstein scale to kind of, gauge like how he's moving where he's at in his career physically injury wise uh one is you know peak gronk like patriots era gron before all the surgeries okay 10 is like the guy at the end of last year or i mean i should say 20 was he really slow 2018 2018 gronk where he's basically full on frankenstein like rumbling through godzilla's yeah uh rumbling through draculess or he's clenching the super ball looking like frankinstein his last play as a patriot so where he is right now is four and that's great you want to be low as you can get on the frankenstein scale he's so key to what they do as well they just have another team that has a very defined

offense greg and they know what they're doing every week that they're so different with gronk like the last two weeks he's been the key to it i hate those like on-off splits when it comes to the nfl like baker when odel's not there baker when he is there it's like but look at this buck's offense this year when gronk is there and when it's not the great games are all Grong. I think this was kind of an important win for the Bucks to come back from 10 down on the road against a quality team because I've been so brainwashed by Brady and Belichick over the year that like every team is different. Every team has its own personality, its own story and you have to sort of build from scratch. And if you look at this

buck season, they haven't had games like this. They haven't had comeback wins. In tough spots, they kind of crumbled more than not. Like the Patriots had a chance to win that game late. The Saints certainly did it. They couldn't pull it off against Washington. They haven't had a game like this where it was back and forth and they showed some toughness and they won in a different kind of way. So I think that's big. Had they lost, I think we're talking about

the Brady Interceptions. He has nine on the year. He has six over his last four games. There's been mistakes. You know, without Antonio talk about splits. Without Antonio Brown, he's not the same player either, but Grancas helped that a lot. Interesting and Frank Reich was getting some guff on

social media for this. Like he'll ever know. They did ask him about it. Well, Jonathan Taylor, who's been the best running back on the planet for two months now, went from, I believe it was a six-minute mark of the second quarter to the 10-minute mark of the fourth quarter without getting a touch. 22 or 23 straight plays, something like that. The 23rd was an interception. They bailed on it.

And it's no coincidence that that window is right when the Bucks got back into the game and took over. And it was almost like somebody tap right on the shoulder and was like, hey, bud, give it to, Jonathan Taylor touchdown. And what does he do? And the drive where they tied it at 31 all on the fourth quarter, they gave it to him eight times for 58 yards on one possession, culminating in the touchdown. I think there's something that Reich learned from that.

I don't know. After the game, Reich is so stubborn. He said, based on, like, the looks they were giving, we should have thrown it even more. Like, that he had no regrets about it in that, like, that was what it called for. A lot of it was RPO's where, you know, Wentz looks at how many guys are in the box and chooses to. to pass, but I don't know. I'm with you. You can't go away from them that long.

Doesn't matter what's going on. And when you look at the box where you finish with two interceptions. One was a desperation heave at the end. The other was a great play by Antoine Winfield on a jump ball to Michael Pittman. You'll do one-on-one your best wide receiver against the safety all day, every day. And Winfield just made a great play. So I think Wentz is playing really well. But even with Wentz playing well, Jonathan Taylor's got to be the man. So that Wentz touchdown shot to Ashton Doolin, like his arm is fine. He, that was one of the better throws of the day. Um, all right.

So the Bucks move to eight and three. The Colts fall to six and six. Uh, the Titans have a chance to put the division to bed. Speaking of the Titans, hit it, Ricky. Jones is back in the pocket. He throws down the caught by board, running room to the outside as he carries to the 30. Oh, he continues down the sideline.

What a point. Away from a defender into the end zone. Touched him to run after the catch. Touchdown Patriots! What a move by Borg! Oh, no. This guy's back. Oh, no.

I thought we were set on the Zolak for like five years. Nothing on the Patriots front are you set on or we set on. It's all coming back. Control your excitement. I'm not, I'm just telling you reality. Bob Sochi and Scott Zolak with the call for WBZ. Mac Jones threw two touchdown passes. Both two, Kendrick Bourne, and the New England defense forced four turnovers.

And the Patriots six straight win rolling past the injury-plaged Titans. 36-13. Raymer's got to be dying. Gregi, I thought, you know, New England caught another opponent at the right time, obviously. The Titans are a mess. But you get the feeling that they can give any team hell right now. They can because in the second half of these games, it's like they get this downhill, momentum where it just feels

it does feel very old school Patriots like where they are going to figure things out in the first half of the game and in the second half they are going to roll and part of that is the physical nature of both of their lines which offensively started to control it in the second

half defensively they did not trust Ryan Tanna Hill the Titans didn't to drop back and pass and for good reason he had 93 yards on 21 attempts the Titans ran for 200 170 yards in this game. Their offense moved the ball great.

It was a lot about turnovers. It did not feel like the Patriots were that much of a better team until the fourth quarter. But they managed to force all their turnovers like they have in recent weeks. And they just feel like they're that old school Patriots idea that they have so many different ways that they can win, which is the way that they need to in this game. And in this game, it was like getting big time production from Myers and Kendrick Bourne. Kendrick Bourne is their number one receiver this year in terms of production. And it just reminds me how last year, they just had no one that would make plays for them.

Like, coaches get a lot of credit for the Patriots, but it's like, Ramon J. Stevenson made plays today. Bourne made plays. John Hsu Smith made a couple plays, like where it had nothing to do with the play call. It's just like they were better than the guys across from them. And they have way more of those guys this year, so they have answers. I mean, no Derek Henry, no Julio Jones, no. No, A.J. Brown, five fumbles, three turnovers. That's eight turnovers in two weeks. Like, the Titans team on the field over the last, you know, Fortnite needed to essentially coach perfectly, play, perfectly, execute perfectly, and the opposites happened.

Right. And yet, I watched this, it was 16, 13 at halftime, and you felt like, I don't know, like they were doing about perfect in the first half, but they had to play this game in such a way that it was like, we know we're not as good as the Patriots. we're going to try to just ground up rushing yards. The Patriots were kind of allowing them, almost daring them to, which was interesting. They played like light boxes the whole game. And the Titans pulled it off for a half, but they couldn't. And I know it's on the Titan side of things, there is a temptation to just go with their narrative. Well, this is exposing Ryan Tannahill. He is a good quarterback, but he's not great.

And when you put him in a situation like this, he's going to fail you. But I'm looking at their wide receivers. This is what he was passing to today. Nick Westbrook, what is that again? Akina. Akina. Cody Hollister, Des Fitzpatrick, Michael Pruitt, Jeff Swame, Anthony Firkser. I mean, this is going to be, if you're going against the Patriots defense,

which is playing as well as any defense in the league, they almost had no chance. I mean, that's why I locked up the Pats here. Because even though the Titans came in 8 and 3, it just felt like there was no way that were going to move the ball. No, that's who gets the. I think maybe Ricky, did you lock the opposite? I did, yeah.

That was me. That was about you. So why you only think about you at all times? Probably. Yeah. I locked up the Patriots and you locked up the Titans so the Patriots would win. So you don't really get the sad horn. Right.

I get the winning horn, but I'm a professional, you know. So the locks, I did lose my lock again. All right. I'm glad we worked that all out. But you're happy with the outcome of our lockoff. Yeah, it was a fantastic showing by the Patriots. but if Derek Henry was there, they wouldn't have stood a chance.

Well, yeah, right. They had 270 yards on the ground. The defense was great, but not with the run against the run. I mean, you had like Hillard, like, ripping off stuff from that. I know if Don Trell Hilliard has 131 yards and a 68-yard touchdown, well, that's what Derek Henry maybe would have done in this game, but there's still. Foreman goes for 109.

They had two over 100. It was a strategy, and I don't think it worked the way exactly that they wanted, but the outcome kind of ended that way, which was like you can run and spend all day, like going on these long drives, we kind of don't trust Tanna Hill to finish it off. I think, Dan, your point, though, they don't have a target with more than 25 yards. I mean, he's playing with a week three preseason roster. They've set the NFL record for the most players used in a season.

It is week 12. That is a, and I know that because of the IR rules that sort of bends it to the last couple of years that you're going to use more players with the practice. That doesn't matter. They've set the NFL record for the most players used, which is a, essentially the most injuries in the history of the NFL. And it's week 12. They have done an incredible job getting to this point.

And all those wins they stacked up before are going to come in handy because a lot of these players are coming back for Tennessee. Graver. And yes, that's the way to look at this, Graver. But, I mean, how fortunate are you and how relieved are you that the Colts found a way to lose that game today? Because if the Colts beat the Bucks paired with this, it would be panic on the streets in Nashville.

Yeah, it would be bad. I think that was a much-needed loss for the Colts from a Titans' perspective. It still seems like the South, AFC South is the Titans division to take. They just have to come back, get healthy over the by week. They're up three with five to go if you count the tiebreaker as a game. They'd have to completely like collapse full to have a bomb dropped on them. Against the Jaguars and the Texans, again, and the Steelers and the Niners and the Dolphins. I feel like the Titans, depending on how healthy they are after the buy,

should be able to win three of those five games. All right. It sounds like you're in a good place, Justin, and I'm happy for you, but I, you know, from a podcast perspective, you know, a crestfallen grave digger would have been fun too. All right. And on the Patriot side, before we move on and get shook in here, listen, I'm all for the reality that the Patriots could be a team that makes a deep run in the playoffs,

but I just need to see it. I just need to see these next three games what happens. At Bills, at Colts, home bills. Give me two wins there, or don't give them to me. I don't want them. But win two of those games, and I'm on board the rest of the world that this is the dynasty reborn. I mean, I don't think the rest of the world is saying.

I think the rest of the world is just recognizing they lead the NFL on point differential right now. But I think it's absolutely fair to point out still that their best win, like, you know, they haven't beaten a team that's like above average in DVOA this year other than the Browns. That's about it. Well, I would just, let's just disconnect from the previous dynasty and just say they don't have an Achilles heel at the moment. They seem very balanced. They're getting better by the week. They're getting great play from a rookie quarterback and their defense is nasty.

I agree with all that. And now I just want to see it happen against premium opponents. You will. Let's talk in two weeks. Exactly. All right. Three weeks. Let's take a break and then talk to Nick Shook. what's up everybody Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks on move the sticks

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Cousins back on Fort Down. Has time throws Jefferson incomplete. The 49ers takeover on Downs. They stopped the Vikings twice in a row. on fourth down. The 49ers will win their third in a row. Oh, bongo time. Greg Papa with the call.

Deserves it. Ken, K-N-B-R. San Francisco got the big stop in the fourth quarter. Devo Samuel ran for two touchdowns before leaving with an injury. And Elijah Mitchell ran for 133 yards in a score, leading the Niners to a 34-26 win over the Vikings at the big bell bottom. this is uh nick shook now joining us shookie this was a game

to uh 500 teams that are very intriguing 500 teams in a wide open conference and it was the niners who looked like the team that will continue a surge while you come out of this game wondering about the vikings especially after david cook is carded off with a shoulder yeah this game very much played like a game we would expect between two teams with identical records and kind of on similar trajectories as of late it was a

close one it was a hard fought chippy game. There were a lot of scuffles breaking out after, you know, the whistle. And it came down to the end. And the Vikings who have become this aggressive new age, go for it on fourth down team for the first time, couldn't convert in those key situations. And that ultimately proved to be the difference. That and Mike Zimmer's stingy defense that we've come to know as one that, you know, can stand up against the test and get stops when it needs to get them, could not do that, especially late. They allowed the 49ers to grind away seven minutes a game clock in the fourth quarter while trailing by one possession.

And then when they did get the ball back, they ultimately could not convert. They blew two opportunities in 49ers territory to try to score the potential game tying touchdown with a two-point conversion added in and came up short by eight points. And the Vikings now have to kind of figure out what went wrong while the 49ers continue, you know, this positive momentum going forward. The only question now, what's the status of Debo Samuel who suffered an injury and did not return to that game was seen on the sidelines with his. helmet nowhere in sight indicating that he was not going to come back he is obviously crucial to

their fortunes has been for the last month was again today with two rushing touchdowns can he return in time to help them keep going forward because what they proved today is if they can run the ball well they're really tough out much like they were a few years ago what i like about the niners today is they they didn't totally crumble when debo went out i mean he was he crossed a thousand yards receiving for the year he had 66 yards on the ground you mentioned the two touchdown he's legitimately a running back. He had no receiving yards, like minutes before his injury today. There was a swing here. This game was 14 to 7, where the Niners came to life with a pair of drives that went 87 yards over 8 minutes, 85, and then they got a Kirk Cousins who through his

third interception of the year. He's been great on that front. Through a terrible one in the third quarter that gave the Niners the ball at the two. And so you had a 21 point swing for the Niners over four minutes from before halftime into the third quarter. And this game did not start the way the previous Niners games have during their hot streak where they start with these long drives. They morphed into that down the stretch. They let, they had their

biggest output on the ground with like 208 yards rushing. And so it gives you faith in the fact that the Niners can continue to be what they are. The Debo-Sanimal thing is huge. The Vikings, I think Vikings fans have to be annoyed by two things. This was a Minnesota game, so there's 208 plot points.

But Adam Thielen, I thought absolutely made a critical catch that the Vikings essentially challenged, did not, it was called incomplete on the challenge. They lost that timeout. Then they lost another time out when Kirk Cousins, you know, this is going to go crazy on social media, but lined up under guard.

And, you know, they had like the running back, comes up to try to move them over. And so they suddenly had no ability to control the clock. And the Niners took that away from them as well. There was also a Kowan Williams defense on third down, a huge third down, that was not called PI that I thought was PI. I just think if you're a Vikings fan,

it's another one of those down moments where you're looking at a couple plays and going insane in your mind. I think this is a game that outcome aside, one team's six and five, the other one is now five and six. I feel like a lot's going to go back to the MRI exams.

Tomorrow, I have developing news on this front. This just came over from I'm Tom Brahma. rap sheet dalva cook suffered a shoulder dislocation see that's why he was writhing on the ground they probably popping that sucker back into place suffered a shoulder dislocation will have an MRI Monday to determine the damage caused so cook is as valuable to his team in my opinion as debo is to the niners and debo will have his own MRI on Monday uh because i don't know you know you could make case for either of these teams Greg making a big run uh

if they got hot at the right time. But if you take either of those guys out of it, you get very, you kind of have to pull it back a little bit. Agree or disagree? I agree, especially with Debo Samuel. I think they could survive without Cook for a few weeks. Alexander Madison, like their running game survived. You would need them back at some point.

You just need both these teams to make it, I think if you want maximum playoff enjoyment. I have to say if I had to pick a six and a seven seat in the NFL of like what's going to be the craziest NFC? I want Vikings Niners. Yeah, I like that. Well, the Niners are the team of Sestiel. I've waited until now.

Because the season doesn't really begin until now. Dan was there. The team of Zeus T.L. It's a little late. It's a little late. It's on my clock. Well, it's interesting. You actually pick them to win the Super Bowl before the season.

You pump your fist. That's correct. Literally four weeks ago, you took them off and you said they were no longer even a playoff team on your mid-season. And he locked against them in a season on the line. Like two weeks ago. But now I'm back. The problem is when you make so many different predictions, Mark, that we have to hold you to them all.

So it does water down your product. I don't feel any problem with anything. I feel fine. It also felt like it was like a regression game for Kirk Cousins. ESPN stats and info says he had. Nick's watching the Browns game. Look. Seven off target passes the highest that he's had all season, including two on fourth down.

So it's like cousins have been playing great and maybe just struggle. I was going to ask you, Shook, do you pause the Browns game for this? or do you know no you keep it rolling this is all real time like they just got a first down this is all real time you know we're breaking the fourth wall here by admitting this but yeah i'm totally looking to my left while you guys are arguing you know i'm listening i'm obviously in tune here but i'm also paying attention to what's happening well in honor of shook uh if anybody else is another comment on this game why don't we move along now uh to what went what went down i should say in Cincinnati bloodbath slaughter short drop throws And it is intercepted, letting it back to the house for the touchdown. Mike Hilton against his former team. No judgment zone. Offisberger's past and runs it into the end zone. Cincinnati is embarrassing Pittsburgh so far today.

Oh, how long have the people of West Ohio waited to hear a comment like that? Cincinnati is embarrassing Pittsburgh. Dan Horde, Dave Lapham with the call. K.Y. Mike Hilton intercepted former teammate Ben Rothesberger took it to the house. The pick six put Cincinnati up by four touchdowns in the second quarter en route to a 41 to 10 win. That blowout followed a double digit bangles win over Pittsburgh in September, making it Cincinnati's first season sweep of the Steelers since 2009

mark. This is the type of game that makes you think you're watching the end of one era and the beginning of another in the division. Bingo. Ben Rathesberger You're really, I mean, he looked like he looked against the Bengals when they played earlier this year. That was the game in which he threw a four-yard interception to Logan Wilson. He had two picks today. Their offense regressed back to this group that we saw earlier in the season, which was dump it off for three, four yards, because we can't trust anything else at the middle or deep part of the field. I mean, that is who the Steelers are when things aren't really going well.

They can't run the ball effectively. They can't stop the run. And credit goes to Cincinnati. They made an emphatic statement with this win. I mean, they didn't need Joe Burrow to be great, but he was still solid. They rode Joe Mix into another big game, 28 carries for 165 yards, two touchdowns. I mean, this was a big win for the Bengals and the fact that they proved that they can do it on both sides of the ball. And like you said, the change of one, you know, maybe the passing of a torch or one team going down the hill and the other one coming up the hill right now.

I mean, they're three and one in the division. I never would have expected this out of these Bengals, especially after they got blown out by the Browns a few weeks ago. They've really used that by week and replicated last week's performance with this one to prove that, hey, look, we figured out some of our problems and we know what our strengths are, and when we ride them, we can beat most anybody. Their last two games against Baltimore and Pittsburgh, they've outscored them 82 to 27. 31 points in the first half was most ever by a Bengals team against the Steelers,

and they played a billion games. I think this version of Cincinnati that we saw today could beat anyone in the conference. I'm not saying you're going to get that every week, but the questions about them being a Jekyll and Hyde team are quieted at the moment. This version of the Steelers is a floating corpse because they're about six weeks away from having a massive burning question at quarterback.

They were totally demoralized today. This game was over about 20 minutes in, thanks to Joe Mix and totally running through it all week long. They didn't have TJ Watt last time. It's going to be a totally different result. It didn't matter at all. I mean, they thumped them as hard as I've seen the Bengals thump a Steelers team in my entire life.

heard you speak with such excited. Mark was so excited. In the newsroom watching this game, he was loving Big Ben taking a dirt nap. It's almost like the Bengals are, I don't know, they're like the surrogates for the Browns right now. If the Browns can't do it, they should smack down the Beatles. I have no heart feelings against the Bengals. And I think Shooka, would you agree that of the three teams in the division outside of Cleveland, like they've been kind of like your dance partners as Browns fans in, you know, in horrid play? But today was quite a revelation. The Steelers. Tomlin, you know, he said we're not going to concoct any excuses. This was a butt kicking. You also said that some changes are coming. I don't think it's going to be a quarterback,

but they are. I don't know. Well, see, this is part of the problem is that they never actually built themselves a legitimate safety net at a quarterback. So I think they are, as Mark put it, of the equivalent of a floating corpse in the AFC because, you know, floating down three rivers. Right down the three rivers. In three parts. Oh, they've been They've dissected them into three parts. They're each and one of the rivers. Are they weighed down in a bag with some chains and rocks at the bottom of the three? That's the next.

Shook, is there anything that could save the Steelers season in your mind? Or is this, are we playing out the string for the Steelers this season ahead of those big changes, in your opinion? I mean, their defense always gives them a chance. Their defense. It's not the same defense, though, this year. They're the hardest schedule down the stretch. It gives them a chance, but they have to figure out how to stop. the run and they haven't been able to do that. They weren't able to do that today.

I mean, I think personnel-wise, for the most part, I would still trust that they'll be competitive. But if they can't do much offensively, which they haven't done in recent weeks, I mean, except for that explosion on Sunday night, you know, last week, or, you know, they came back from behind and nearly won the game, if they can't get consistent play out of that group and the defense isn't as good as we expect it to be, this is, they are what their record is. They're five, five, and one. They could easily be four, six and one or four and seven. Really, I mean, that's who they are. They're an average team, and they're a team that has to start figuring out what they're going to do under center beyond this year.

And I know there's still some games to play and knowing the franchise and the history and, you know, their reputation, I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull out a few more wins. But I don't have high expectations for them because they basically are who they are in terms of record. A few more wins is maybe the high point. They, on paper, are our best chance for a team to go 8-8-1, but they have the Ravens, the Vikings, the Titans, the Chiefs, the Browns, and the Ravens. See you later. 8-8-1 would save that Tomlin has never had a losing streak record. And I just want to say, congrats to all the people holding those Bengals over six and a half wins tickets.

You got paid in November. That's big. All right. Let's close out our time with Shook with a trip to the Meadowlands. Hertz takes a shotgun snap. He's going to hand it off right for Scott. Scott fumble the football. And it's recovered by Julian Love of the Giants.

It got popped out from behind. And Love recovered it. With 134 to go. Bob Papa with a call WFAN. Yes, Giants defense was on point on Sunday. They intercepted Jalen Hertz three times, forced four turnovers total, including that one you heard there. And they held the Philly offense to a season low in points, beating the error-prone Eagles 13 to 7. Shook, Eagles' Twitter was particularly emotional during and immediately following this game.

What did Big Blue do to lead to this result in this outpouring of grief amongst Eagles Nation? They played stifling defense so much that it left Eagles fans questioning the abilities of Nick Siriani to actually scheme up an offense that can get the ball to its playmakers because they didn't do that very often. Jaylon Hertz had three interceptions thrown and his greatest strength became running. And even in a close game, you know, they needed to throw the ball late on two separate possessions. and it didn't look very good. It didn't pan out in their favor because of the Giants. You know, it's weird because the Giants got blown out by the Buccaneers last week in primetime and led to Jason Garrett's firing and everything else.

But if you've watched them for the last few weeks, you've noticed that their defense is starting to come into shape kind of like it did last year before they fell apart down the stretch. And this was like the peak production of that group, you know, forcing four takeaways, a key fumble that we heard. heard on that clip there. Darnay Holmes intercepting, Jalen Hurd, Xavier McKinney, Tate Crowder. They're all getting interceptions.

And that was enough to really keep them in the game and hang on to this lead because let's face it, the offense still has a long way to go. Freddie Kitchens in his first game as a play caller, you know, didn't ask too much of Daniel Jones, and I think it worked out in their favor. But, I mean, you didn't get a ton of production out of guys. You know, 13 carries for 40 yards and Saquan Barkley, that's not going to blow the doors off of anybody. But it was enough to win, and it was enough to avoid the errors that the Eagles couldn't

avoid and that the Giants defense was able to capitalize on and end up with this close what about this Jalen Rager I saw his name pop up over and over and over again it sounds like he had a tough one seven targets two catches we had two chances to win the game that you know as as bad of a game that Jalen Hertz had yeah you get he puts two balls in a spot where Rayer can make a play to win the ball game at the end one would have been a tough catch but the second one he should have caught it and that's that's like that change is your season. That's Nelson Aguilar dropping the ball type of stuff right there.

That has been a disastrous pick by the way, Ray Greer. And by the way, taking one pick before Justin Jefferson. Imagine Jefferson on that Eagles team with Jalen Hertz. So you have the Giants offense still sub 300 yards, but like we

saw last year, their defense has a chance to rise up every once in a while and beat a team. Is this, what do we, where does this leave us with the Eagles now? I mean, are they just like any of these other teams, just up and because they felt like they were building momentum, Shooki, and it just floated away in the New Jersey air. Yeah, it's funny I saw on the Fox pregame today that they did a little,

it was kind of like a parody of like an alert. It was like warning NFC East fans, the Philadelphia Eagles are back. If you're a fan of the Giants, Cowboys, or Washington football team, you might be in danger. Well, you know what, I think you can put those concerns to bed because for as much excitement as we've gotten out of the Eagles, some of the games they've played this year, we're also reminded that there is still a team that has a ways to go, both in terms of roster construction and figuring out what their identity is,

because as they proved today, they're not a consistently reliable team when it comes into situations like this. And against better opponents, I don't know if they'll fare much better. I mean, if they're not playing the Giants, they might lose by two, three possessions. But because they're playing the Giants, it was still a close game that they had a chance to win and ultimately couldn't come through. This backs my theory that whenever a player or a player slash team are celebrated slash over-celebrated all week long. We woke up with Jalen Hertz has answered questions at quarterback by Indian Rapaport. They're ready to roll with their three first-round picks and build a round.

I'm not saying that's not true. He's been great. But like Jonathan Taylor, too, when it's just like endless hype parades, like invariably Sunday will underwhelm. I call it the James Winston corollary because I'll never forget the week 16, a Saturday. game where Ian reported that the Bucks are rolling forward with James. He's shown enough. And then he threw like nine interceptions in the last two

games, including a walkoff pick six, and they went and signed Tom Brady, and the rest was history and Shucky, um, listen, you're the pipe. You delivered with a hard blow to the listeners. Nailed it. Okay.

Thank you for joining us. And like James in Tampa, I am also history. There he goes. Get back to your game, buddy. Thank you for joining us. Let's take a break and then hit the rest of the Sunday games. What's up, everybody?

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Quick throw to Eckler, deflected and intercepted. Sertan down the west sideline this may be a house call 20 15 10 5 touchdown Denver 70 yards for Pat Sertan I like that Dave Logan K-O-A house call rookie Patrick Sartain the second picked off Justin Herbert twice returning the second one 70 yards for a touchdown that sparked the Broncos 2813 win over the charge I mean charges what are we doing here Very annoying. You go up there after an emotional Sunday night win and you lay this type of egg. Anyway, this win sets up a showdown for the AFC-West lead next weekend in Kansas City where the game has already been flexed this Sunday night.

That's fun. Greg, Vic Fagio was working his warlock magic again. I can't get a feel of this Broncos team. It is crazy for as many times as we've tried to bury them on this show that they're playing for the division lead like you mentioned on Sunday night. football in December. And yet, I'm still not convinced they're like a great team, but they today showed what Fangio wanted when he took Sertan. Trant's been a good pick.

He'll always be compared to them passing on Justin Fields. It'll always be a bad process to me that they took them for Fangio's defense when Fangio's probably on the way out. But he's a really good starting cornerback. And their secondary was great today. But it was great in part because the Broncos got after Justin Hurst and Herbert in this Chargers' offensive line with just four, just four rushers. And this is like Jonathan Cooper, who's stepped up and been good.

And Stephen Weatherly, who they just signed off the scrap heap. And other guys, like, you know, Kenny Young, who they traded for from L.A., like they're getting guys off the street and playing them on their defense, and the charges still can't protect in that situation. And they were flummox. It's been a trend here. I think when the charges have played some strong defensive play callers that can scheme up some tricky looks in terms of coverage and pass rush, what they did against Baltimore

and New England and now Minnesota and now Fangio with a depleted Broncos team. The Chargers offense has been pretty DOA in all of those games, which is disappointing. They open the second half with an 11-play drive that ends in a miss field goal, the Chargers. Their next drive is 13 plays, ends in an interception. Their next drive is a five-play drive that ends in an interception. and then they have a garbage time touchdown. I have to look at the Joe Lombardi experience on offense and feel like, as much as I love Brandon Staley

and how much he gets involved in all sides of the football, like it's just kind of not working. And I loved what you said on Sky, Greg. We're kind of conditioned to never blame, you're not going to blame Herbert for any of this. That's my rule. That's the number one rule of Herbert. Blame everyone else.

He and Stafford threw pick sixes at almost the exact same time, which was not a great moment for L.A. Ites in general. But you don't do, is there anything happening with Herbert that is culpable here? Well, that was a tip pass, although it was a little behind, I mean, it was. Spin it, baby. The pick six was a drop pass. The first interception was on a got to have it play, and it was a bad play by Herbert. I mean, but even earlier in that drive, thinking about like the fourth down crazy scramble, I really think when you watch the tape on him, it always ends up better than you think, because he has. ends up making so many plays that were just all him.

And like I said, the offensive line's been a mess. But you got to give Denver credit. They did the game plan against the Chargers that everyone's been doing against the Chiefs. It's like back up, make them drive these long drives, and they'll make a mistake by the end of it. Meanwhile, the Chargers run defense gave up a lot of yards. Again, Teddy had one of his more, I would say, memorable wins, even though he finishes with 129 yards, he's limping around out there. He missed three or four drives, and his shin was hurt.

Drew Locke came in and was a disaster. Turn the ball over and at a fumble. And then Teddy comes back after halftime and at least calm things down and steer them to a win. They're right back where they started a quarterback. And the Chargers, you know, they start the season with four wins and five tries. But since then, they've lost four of six to the Ravens, to the Patriots, to the Vikings, to the Broncos. And they're kind of telling you who they are, which is they have a lot of big name talent, but they're kind of a middle of the pack team.

and I don't know if we're going to see them really ever rise up. I feel like this is kind of who they are now, right? Can't run, can't stop the run. Offensive line, I think, has problems. That's like a lot of things going against you where you need something great to overcome it. And I'm not sure what they have that's great other than Herbert, you know, making some crazy plays. This Broncos team, though, that's a fight. And now I'm like, okay, they're coming out of a vibe.

Maybe there's something. But you know how you want like the Niners and you want various other teams? teams to get in. No one wants the Broncos. I mean, that's, I don't need to see that. I get it. Oh, yeah. They are, I feel like they are maxing out, considering their injuries.

I mean, they lost their left tackle today, who was already their backup. They're down to their fourth and fifth string tackles. They lost the starting guard today. They have been crushed by injuries. I think they are maxing out what they can do, but that might be eight and seven in the end. Right. Or nine and eight. They're going to be the first ever nine and eight team and the most nine and eight team ever assembled.

in professional football. But that might get them into the playoffs. They're an interesting team to keep an eye on, and they are set up with a big spotlight game next week. Let's move on from Denver to Miami where the dolphins are back. Miami. Miami. Fires, touchdown, Miami.

Waddle. Stuck into the end zone of Miami. Miami. Miami. It's the Panthers pay for the interception. Oh, the Alabama connection right there. Miami. Go, perk up.

Jimmy is Cephalo. Cephalo. Cephalo. The Sapster. Hit me up with the, in the copy here, with the, what are they called? The phonetic. Sure. Pronunciation.

Help me out with that one. Because I've been stumbling on that one for about seven years now. Yeah, sure. WQAM with the call. Jalen Waddle at nine catches for a season high, 137 yards, and a touchdown. the Dolphins feast, five sacks, three interceptions, beat the Panthers 33 to 10. Mark, in the beginning of the month, the Dolphins were dead and buried at 1 in 7. Four wins later, it's the zombie dolphins lurking on the periphery of the

AFC playoff picture. They are lurking. I would say the team they played had more zombie characteristics throughout today. I mean, this was a game that if you're one of the Dolphins fans that are saying, I don't want them to go get another quarterback. want to see Tua be given the full entree into, you know, four years of experience in Miami. I'm not sure that'll happen, but he was 27 for 31 today.

Okay. We weren't all splash plays because that's Tua. But the connection with Waddle was, you know, bordered on electric. I mean, Waddle showed you what he was today. He had 137 yards and a touchdown off nine grabs. That was their offense. They're not a big run team. Their defense got the job done against Cam.

I'll get to that in a second. They had a blocked punt. They went for a touchdown. That's like when the Brian Flores dolphins are doing it. You're getting a little thing from all sides of the ball. And that's what happened today. They encountered a Cam Newton meltdown scenario. This is a pretty amazing little nugget.

Cam Newton went five for 21, and it looked like it. Is that good? Well, it is horrendous. It is horrendous. And it is the lowest completion percentage by a quarterback with 20 plus attempts since Joey Harrington did it went five for 22 for the lions in 2004 should have went with Joe Harrington would have had a better career you might be right cam Newton I'll give him this it was it was an ugly ugly day he did not mince words or making excuses about the you know the

parade of social media hype in the I'm back business Ricky let's hear what he said this is the NFL nothing's promised just because Cam Newton's on your roster doesn't mean you're just going to win just because it's a feel good story doesn't mean you're going to win right i'm i'm well aware of that one little thing like even early in the game the fox broadcast was asking like should p j williams come in here it looked that bad i thought that would have been way premature mat rule did bring him in down the stretch i think they just wanted to pull cam out of the fire to some degree um and then said after the game there's not going to be any change it probably took like three sacks in a row well yeah i think the thing is the p j williams

p j walker yeah p j walker sorry p j walker is an athletic and he's sort of fun to watch, but he cannot escape killer mistakes. So you're going to go back to Kim. I mean, Cam, it sounds like, and I'll watch this tomorrow, but it sounds like he was as miserable as can be. But you're in it with Cam now for the rest of the season. I don't think there's any way, unless he like doubles up on this type of performance, which feels like unlikely, you're going to roll with Kim. We're still going to give you the best chance to win. But if you're the Panthers, and we'll give Dolphins, you know, a little bit more love in a second, but if you're the Panthers to kind of have all this buzz around you after Cam's first game and now to lose

back to back games and this game especially as ugly as it looked. I just don't like what direction is this organization heading right now as we're getting into the back end of the second year of the Met rule era. It's fair to ask because I'm not seeing a ton of progress here. They're floating, but I think losing Christian McCaffrey to a rolled up ankle. I mean again with this guy. I know he is injury prone, but yeah, they're floating and their defense was a no show today. That's a thing that you think that's going to be their strength. And two times in the last couple weeks, the defense has been neutralized. I think Flores brings something to the table.

You know, I had that theory where it's like five coaches matter because they're bad. Five doesn't because they stink. But what you want is a coach that brings something to the table. And what I think Flores does is sometimes in certain matchups, he really gives you an advantage in this Panther's offensive line, which has been quietly miserable all season. especially like picking up stunts, blitzes, stuff like that. This was a terrible matchup for them today to have to play this Dolphins defense

with a quarterback that's not totally prepared, doesn't know the whole offense, and your offensive line had nothing to do. And like that's twice in the last three weeks where I think Flores has come to the table because I know two have played well, but ultimately they had 315 yards on offense where Flores kind of won you a couple games here with your defensive game. It's what you want. He's taking his butt out of the friar. Flores with this run.

I mean, you know, he's not going to tell you that because he's the coach and it's all about the team. The hole they were in, too. But that's, you know, well, no, that's fair to say. But if they have a non-competitive season where they go three and 14, you could be in trouble. And at one and seven, they're ahead of that way. But now there's some juice. And now you get both New York teams coming up. We'll spin forward on later in the week.

But they really do have a chance to make a run at the playoffs now. This was the big one. If you could beat the Panthers, a team that profiled is frisky and dangerous in that spot, you really do open things up. Giants Jets at Saints the next three weeks. They are still 13. They got a shot here. So they got to keep winning.

They're 13th in the AFC. So there are a couple losses behind still, despite this winning. But they're in the mid. I wanted to just quickly before we go give you a couple of stats. Number one, Jalen Waddle over the last month, second in the NFL in receiving yards and receptions. It's a good player, dog. And two has played 16 starts now. So that's a nice little number that we understand.

3,500 passing yards, 6.8 yards per attempt, 27 touchdowns, 12 turnovers. Solid. It's good. Greg, again, ignoring the 17-game schedule that is now part of our life. I hate that because I have always thought that that's how you evaluate Hall of Famers. That's how you evaluate you a player 16-game chunks. I think he even went down to 15 in the prior game. He said that there was going to be 8-7 finish to a season.

The math got messed up Because I was like trying to do odd numbers All right Let's get through this next game as quickly as possible Atlanta at Jacksonville Oh boy Here's Ryan on the near hash mark Give is Patterson

Straight ahead Touchdown Cardinal Patterson I kid Jaguar's fans That's what we do here We give everybody Some shine Western with the call

WZGC GC good call Corderoel Patterson ran for a career high, 108 yards and two touchdowns in his return from an ankle injury. The Falcons win for the first time in three weeks, 2114 over the Moribund Jacksonville, Jaguars. Atlanta is now five and six. They finished with a season high 149 yards on the ground. That's not that much.

They're most since October 20. That's weird. Greg, what did you learn here? That quarter old Patterson matters. I guess I knew that already. I don't know, let's come up with an award to give this guy. 16 runs, 108 yards, two touchdowns. You know, like Debo Samuel, like, he's really gone full transition to a running back.

He had a couple touchdowns. I feel like, I know the next-gen stats, you know, could check this. But I believe that 88% of the Falcons yardage this year are Corderole Patterson off missed tackles. Dead on. Like, not even just normal plays, just after he breaks a tackle, that was pretty much the offense. This will annoy Dan because Dan, I think, is, you know, waiting for the Falcons to, you know, vaporize at something. No, they are. I already told you.

They are. I just want to tell you one thing, though. I'm not going to annoy me because they don't matter. They are right now tied with the precious Minnesota Vikings at five and six. It doesn't matter. The final spot. But what stands out to me is they have the second worst point differential at a negative 103 points. Because they stink.

And the NFC, I know they stink, but like. I'm trying to help you here. But stinky teams get into the playoffs. Not this one. They're not going to. I'm just saying from where we stand today, I'm not predicting they will. And this game didn't make me feel better about them. This game, what it did make me feel is an appreciation for the love I have for the around the NFL listener.

Because I missed the first half of this game. I was on a flight back from a friend's wedding in Miami. The JetBlue had only the New York teams on the, you know, on the flight. Miami. So late into the afternoon. Where did you go? Miami. Oh, okay.

late in the afternoon, as the afternoon games are on, I'm trucking through 21 to 3. Let's see this Trevor Lawrence come back. I want to see every play of this. Give me something. Try this Trevor Lawrence comeback just so I can give the listeners a little something. And I don't really have much other than T-Law. You know, he had another chance to do something where you're like,

oh, that's a moment because he did get the ball back. He had a nice touchdown drive before that. But then they go like four and out with two pretty bad throws. And he's just not super accurate. the thing that worries me a little bit. I think it's safe to say, and listen, this is, it's way too early to cast any final opinions on Trevor Lawrence, but given the hype and everything else, it's been a disappointing first year for him. And that's not just on him, but if you thought he was going to come into the league, even, you know, he's been compared to Andrew Luck,

Peyton Manning, those guys came into the league. And even if they had growing pains in that first year, they flashed. And we just haven't seen a ton of it from Trevor this year. Little spurts, though, but he isn't a chaotic, the worst landing. Absolutely. Absolutely, but the problem is that's not changing, at least in terms of the coaching staff. And that's, you know, that's part of the part. I just thought this was going to be a spot when I picked this game, too. It's like, okay, maybe we have a nice Trevor Lawrence glow-up game against this lousy falcons.

And he had like 110 yards going into the fourth quarter. I'm a loser. That's absolutely right. Last but not least, Miami. We head to not Miami. Houston for the game of the day. Zach Wilson set to take the snap and does. It's a quarterback keeper.

Houston. He cuts it back to the left. Dives for the goal line. He's in. That's a jet touchdown. All right, Bob was choosing on our show for the third time this year. Zach Wilson had more downs and ups in his return from a four-week injury layoff, but his four-yard touchdown scramble was pivotal in a 21-14 win for the Jets over the Texans,

the favored Texans. in Houston. By the way, the home teams... That God, your nerves. It was a little annoying. The home teams went seven and three this Sunday. Uh-oh. Entering SNF.

FYI. The Texans, you know, they were hoping to build on their upset of the Titans last week, and they're up 14-3 in this game. But then their offense just went to bed. Tyrod Taylor threw two touchdown passes in the second quarter. And that was it for the game. They had a chance to tie it late, but Bryce Hall, who's done pretty good work for the Jets

in their secondary, knocked down a pass intended for Nico Collins on fourth and two to give New York the ball back and then they did what they needed to do to wind down the clock, get the win. I thought Michael Floor, who's really had a nice month after a Rocky started his O.C.

Did something that is not easy to do. He had to coach around a rookie quarterback who was struggling and dig out of a double-digit deficit. I mean, that's not usually a needle. You can't thread that needle typically. But he did, and I guess when you're playing the Texans, it helps as well because Wilson was not good in this game. And he appeared to aggravate that knee injury on a scramble in the second half. So he's not healthy still.

But he missed too many throws. And, you know, I don't host a quarterback camp. I'm not a, give me a QB guru, Greg. You don't write QB index. I don't write. I'm not a Greg Rosie. I'm not a JTO Sullivan. I'm not a J-T-O-Sullivan Palmer.

I'm not a Jordan Palmer. Tom House. I'm not a Tom House. He's a classic guy. But I can tell you this, that the game is moving super fast for Zach Wilson, and you could see it. He had a really bad interception where he scrambled and threw a shovel pass into the back of his running back. That, of course, then ricochets off the back of the jersey and into the hands of the defender. It's just a classic moment of everything is moving too fast for him.

If Tom Brady has mastered the sport by. everything's slowing down. Zach Wilson is still on the other side of that spectrum where everything is moving at light speed and you could just see it the way he moves. So that's frustrating because you were hoping for progress. But again, they did get a win. And I guess it is on in New York City.

I mean, because of this alone, there's a lot of things happening in New York, but this victory, this is a fun fact. This is the first time the Jets and Giants won on the same day since 1986. Get the, you know, take-or-tape parade. And also, by the way, Justin Reed was deactivated for disciplinary reasons.

From this team that is all about, like, our culture, what culture mavens, like that's the first thing I read this morning that Reed essentially in a fight with team brass over something and becomes a free agent after this season, did not play today. Give me a break. Also, one of their better players. These two teams combined for 460 yards. So they combined for, you know, a lot less than the Raider. had the other day, don't think it's going to be number one in the game pass.

This one, if you're lucky, it will be in that, like, 31 to 33 minute range, the quick game pass version. I'm glad the Jets one, though, because I just feel like they've been better than the Texans this year, and you're right, that Texas is laying wood in that spot. Yeah, there's just something like, I just feel like that it's right. It's just right. I'll take the double. I don't care about draft standings.

I don't give a hoot. I just, I'll take the W, but I need the boy to play better. It's still not happening. All right. Now, that takes us to Mark Sessler and highly emotionally charged Sunday night football affair against the team that was ripped from the belly of the Browns. As the man they call, the quiet storm is said, after this. What's up, everybody?

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Jackson takes the snap. Pressure's coming. Cloudy almost got him. He's rolling back to the 35-yard line. He throws as he's hit. He throws to the end zone. Caught. Touchdown.

Ravens. Middle of the field of Mark Andrews, who came back to make the touchdown reception. It's a 13-yard touchdown officially, but it was about a 37-yard pass from Lamar Jackson. Yes, the hay in the barn for the Baltimore Ravens. And one of those classic rugged AFC North Affairs, the Ravens hold off to Cleveland Brown 16 to 10 at M&T Bank Stadium. And they win a game in which Lamar,

Jackson threw four interceptions, including three and a single quarter of play. Usually that's doomed. But it wasn't on this Sunday because the defense of Baltimore rose up and shut down the Cleveland Browns offense all night, especially on that final drive. When the Browns needed to get down the field for seven, they could not produce a first down or even throw to the sticks there when it counted. Mark Sessler, your brownies fall to six. and six, the Ravens move to eight and three and feel like they are in command of the

AFC North. Yeah, I mean, I think if we had done our preview show on Thursday and, you know, the football gods had whispered in my year before we discussed this game that Lamar would do what you just said, that he would throw four interceptions. And I would tell you, I'll go to NFL research with that. And they'd come back and say that since 2015, QBs to do that, start. that throw four interceptions a game are 0 and 37. Now they're 1 in 37.

It's because Cleveland could do very little with those gifts. I mean, I'm not sure what else you could ask this defense to have done. I mean, I felt the frustration that Jadavia and Clowney felt that so many defenders feel chasing Lamar around and unable to close the deal, but they did in so many ways. I mean, the turnovers are the gifts that Brown's offense should have done something with. Here's what they got off of that. three points. A field goal, two punts, and the ball flickering out of Baker Mayfield's hands at a key moment that set the Ravens up. So this Brown's offense looked broken against the

lions, muddled, really weird play selection. I thought tonight they got too cute with that Jarvis Landry, you know, strip sacked. It was a bit of a nightmare. And, you know, if the football gods had also told me, oh, by the way, along with those gifts, you're going to run for 40 yards at 2.4 yards per carry you aren't going to have outside of jarvis landry anyone really helping out in the passing game and baker mayfield you know i'm not saying that that last drive was um a great situation for him but that was another chance for baker mayfield to seal a game and do something in a big national spot an island game like you say dan and they fizzled and that's what their offense has been for for weeks now a fizzle operation yeah i can't believe how bad this brown's

offenses. I don't think Kevin Czvansky can believe it either. And that's why I think he keeps calling passing plays in situations where Browns fans are like, why don't we just try to run the ball? It's because he's looking at the numbers. He's seeing the way defenses are playing them. And the book says you do what the defense gives you. You know, you take what the defense gives you. And I think defenses, especially the Ravens tonight, are in a sense giving the Browns a pass, passing game. They're giving them one-on-one matchups. They were run blitzing all night. Now, they also, the Browns didn't run well when they tried to run. So that was a problem. But he's calling these past plays and they don't have a passing game right now that can

overcome it. Even in a game like this where I still thought they had a chance there at the end. It was that like ugly old AFC North game. I was hoping Baker could just give us a little entertainment at the end. Come on. You kept thinking that maybe they had something special in the fourth quarter. They scored the touchdown on that hotly contested David and Joku catch, which is one of the more kind of borderline coin flip plays I can remember, where it doesn't matter how much you slow it down. You can't really discern whether that was a catch or not. And because they ruled that a catch on the field, it was the right move to keep it as a touchdown. That ended up being the only touchdown the Browns had. Justin Tucker and his brilliance, he takes care of all his opportunities.

and that ends up being the margin for victory. But Mark, I think, I mean, you've hit on it with the Browns and no one's tracking this team closer than you that we're now 12 games into the season. And, you know, they've had some nice moments this year, a blowout of Cincinnati a couple weeks back. There have been other games that have been quality wins you would define them as.

But how many times now have they had a chance, an opportunity to do something special and really put their season on a different trajectory? And they just fall short. And I just wonder what they can do at this point to fix it. Are you too deep into a season to find that type of DNA? Or is there something really missing here? They're not a team that's like well positioned to battle from behind to start.

But to your question, like that is become their character trait and their character flaw. I mean, you could point to four or five games this year where, you know, had Baker Mayfield been Joe Montana late 80s, their record would be vastly different. I'm not putting it all on Baker-Maveville. I think systemically, the loss of O'Dell Beckham, like, from a production number standpoint, doesn't look too big. But I think the way the defenses would treat the Brown's wide receiver group and their tight-end group in general has changed a lot. Like, I see a group of wide-outs that can't separate or get open. I mean, you know, you don't have Anthony Schwartz in there.

Like, that's a speed guy, but he is, his production, he's a rookie. But it's like they just don't have that guy that really scares you at this point. I think losing Harrison Bryant didn't help them tonight. But I'm pointing to, like, they're most productive in like three tight-end sets. And I think that this offense has been slightly figured out. And, you know, teams are attacking it differently than last year when there was, you know, they were able to kind of do what they wanted to do and mystify defensive coordinators. That's not the case.

The Ravens, I thought, diagnosed them really well tonight and did what the Ravens do. And yet there were more open Browns receivers tonight than Ravens receivers. like well i'm not but i'm just saying they hit a couple big plays baker mayfield actually had about three or four great throws in this game which is why i struggle with the whole injury thing of like we put it all on the on the injuries but he had some gems and his biggest problems came on plays where he held the ball where he did the pump fake thing on one of them he just fumbled and dropped it but on on another one he just seemed like he had an open receiver does the pump holds it and then bad things happen and then on the flip side it's like lamar jackson has a disastrous night

four interceptions, a couple other misthrows that he had. And yet, he reminds me a little bit of Brady in that, like, if you're an opponent of Lamar, all you're thinking is, like, he still made that Lamar play where he backpedals back to the 35 and hits a freaking touchdown. He still had that play where he evades, like, four different tacklers to get out of a sack and make a completion. Like, in the end, like, he ends up winning these games with a couple winning plays, and you're just like, oh, that's Lamar.

He might not win the MVP, but he's getting wins. It seems fair that Lamar would be critiqued the same way that Baker or another quarterback would for throwing four interceptions because you still know he's going to be a game changer down the stretch. And the Ravens didn't change what they were doing because of any of that. And the defense ultimately bailed him out. I know he made a couple big throws and showed that great escapeability all night long, but he averaged four yards per carry on, I believe, 12 attempts.

He threw the ball up for grabs all game. And the D just bawled out in a huge. huge spot even right down to that final series the browns go four and out and they get a fourth down stop where you know it's short of the sticks they get the tackle and they walk off with a win where you throw four interceptions in prime time that's a that's a big win for the ravens and the browns they got they're looking for answers right now and it's getting late early we might have to talk like MVP or something on tuesday i don't know it's like Lamar in his last five games I just scribbled this down forgive me if I'm wrong has seven touchdowns nine interceptions and

in 17 sacks. It has not gone well over the last five weeks. Well, that's why everyone's, you know, trying to figure that out. And that's why when Jonathan Taylor blew up last week and as he had over two months, that it was like, okay, maybe we'll give it to a running back. Because the quarterback position this year doesn't have a guy that's really running away with this thing. Stafford, you thought might do it. It's not happening. Kyler Murray got hurt. Lamar Jackson now has gone sideways. Brady still makes sense as an option, obviously. But yeah, that's a conversation perhaps for another show. Mark, how you doing, buddy? You seem like you're in, I feel like you're in a somewhat healthy place with this Browns team where a loss like this

isn't crushing you. In fact, you locked up the Ravens, so congratulations. Yes. You know, a minor solace. But I mean, I think that we, you asked me a couple weeks ago in our network show, lock it up. Right. A joyous occasion. Like, who are, who is this team? And I kind of just felt back then, like they are what they are. Like, they're just, there's a lot of, there's more questions and answers. They're frustrating to watch. I think they must be, they must be feeling extremely frustrated. And they aren't built right now to win games like this in their own division where Baltimore is. And that's who the Ravens have been against Cleveland forever. And like I said, I think that they, the Ravens always reveal Cleveland's character and I guess status, maybe more

than character sometimes too. And they revealed Cleveland status tonight. And guess what? The Browns hit their buy and then come back and play the Ravens again in week 14 that will have huge consequences i mean let's get it together NFL the browns are doing this and so are the patriots wait what's wrong with it i think it's kind of a neat little wrinkle it doesn't happen all total i think that's so stupid i doubt bro i don't love it but i spread them out like it's all about adjustments instead of playing the same team twice in row it's it's a different type of challenge for the coaching staff you know it's just different Hey, you know what else is different?

Like this BTS group, biggest pop band in the world. Ricky, jump on a second. So you were in between our early taping and now you walk past, you know, our commissary and you heard the squealing of 70,000 girls, including, I would think, Greg's own daughter. I thought I heard Ellis, actually. I heard Ellis and Emma and it was right at the beginning. You know where they like play music and the lights come down and you're like waiting for a group to come up? And then I think there's seven of them.

You could hear them come up. And I thought there was like an earthquake. Like our office building was shaking. It is out of control over there. I went for a second just to get a feel of it too. It's definitely louder for BTS than any Rams are charged. Ever. Greg, you you coughed up half your paycheck for those tickets.

And I think it's worth it to give your daughter to that experience. Before we sign off, and Mark, you feel free to log. golf you know you don't have to deal with this after a brown's loss but again no i'm happy to listen i'm just curious because i don't have a uh a real working knowledge of bt s i asked rickie just to pull up the three biggest bt songs on spotify and i want to know if if anyone's recognizing any of them or what we think of them let's just check in real quick okay i know all three but that could just be my age there's only three in the english language so i could even name them for you before you put it wrong there's more than that greg

Here's the first one. Wait a minute. I believe I saw Chris Martin there. Yeah, that's a collab. Oh, Chris. Okay, that one is newer, but it's skyrocketed. Yeah, I know that one. This one, Dan, I think you will know.

Okay. Okay. I'm not totally familiar with that one. Nice little. I mean, I know the source material. I wasn't aware of their like 10-inch remix version or whatever it is. All right. Let me hear one more. Are these over like a billion?

Yeah, they're like they're two big in numbers for me to pronounce. All right. One more. anybody else curious or is it's just me no no like this is good to be tapped into the zeitgeist although the first one not so much but yeah the other ones yeah this one gregg plays all the time there we go smooth like buddy pour you in like no other don't need no usher dream i me you got it bad ain't no i've heard that before so they are they so is that guy the uh the styles the harry styles the Justin Timberlake of the group

you seem to be there's a little more pop of him they're all there's a lot but there is one I think that is like the one I think his name's John Soon Joe I don't know I don't even want to say Greg but yeah

what's his name Greg we're just sounding so so old like hmm play some more of these Greg don't be self-conscious just embrace that we're Greg you like rap you're fine yeah you like rap

there's a thirst for knowledge here Greg you know it's okay i've gotten all the knowledge i need of bt s over the last year i just think it's funny that you're like playing it cool because when we were coming back from doing the um sunday night show in london we're walking back to the hotel it's two a m we're getting ready to start the show and gregg you literally pumped your fist and you go yes emma got the tickets for btas i was because i like love my family yeah i know it was it was an uphill battle we didn't think

she was going to be able to get it and uh it happened Initially, the tickets, Greg, they were for him and Jezelnick and some other guy. And then Emeka decided otherwise. No, I was supposed to get the tickets, but that we were on the stage when they went on sale. And I was like, I can't possibly pull this off. Well, it all worked out. And I feel enlightened now. I feel like I'm surfing the zeitgeist right now with all that melody pumped into my...

I feel like you should have on the way home, you know. See what you think. I think you should work in smooth like butter. into your, like, daily vernacular. All right, I'll work on that. All right. Good stuff. Good show.

That's the flagship program. And remember, these games all occurred after Thanksgiving, so they count. Okay? Keep that in mind when you put your head to pillow. You're there in a really good place emotionally because your team won. Like me, Jets, one and O in games that count. We're flying. Everybody else, not so hot.

We'll half the league. That's the breakdown. good night all right they're ready to go this is dan hans signing off for quiet storm the old boss ricky hollywood until tuesday he the call Thank you. Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks.

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