NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2021 Week 13 Recap - Good Bad Teams and Bad Good Teams

Episode Date: December 6, 2021

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap all of the week 13 games starting with the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh steelers. A few other games came right down to the wire like San Francisco vs Seattle and Minnesota vs Detroit. Nick Shook joins the show to recap the Rams-Jags game and Minshew-mania in Philly. As always, the heroes close the show with the Sunday Night Recap between the Chiefs and Broncos. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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sunday flagship show for the around the NFL and i will say this mark sessler and it happened to me as well It happened to you with the first game we're going to talk about. Once again, the 2021 NFL season, just when you think you have all the answers, they go and change the questions. It's a very hard season to figure out. It's a muddled mess because I thought I was doing my job by, you know, observing games from last week and games leading up to last week and coming away with observations that I thought were informed and strong and they're shredded entirely.

and also on a more psychological level, I spent all of yesterday thinking it was week 14 and did not realize until I got to work that it was week 13. So I'm just saying, you know, it is a bit of a marathon and that was a mental miscue on my part. I mean, yeah, the emotional ride that Mark has gone with his belief in certain AFC North teams, how about all those afternoon games like all came down to one foot?

You change one foot in the Washington game where Carr misses the open touchdown. Certainly, you know, we'll get to the Ravens game, and then that 49ers ending. Al Pacino told us that's how football operates. We thought this was the worst week of games on paper, but it was a good Sunday. It ended up working out.

Are you talking about just the one I thought I was out? They pulled me back in. Any given Sunday. Are you talking, hooah? Yeah, well, I mean, maybe somewhere in between those eras, you know. You know the speech that everyone knows the speech I'm discussing. I think he's just in the locker room. He's going, hua.

I know he's nice. He's saying a little bit more. You got a great. They're trying to take it away from you, the inches, Greg. That's what I'm trying to. Oh, okay. You know. Good callback.

All right. There's not enough good football movies. I agree with that, but I feel like I'm the only one. I'm not some niche French film. Well, I used to say that. And then I saw the trailer for the new Kurt Warner movie. And now I think. You're back in.

We got a chance. You're back in. We got a chance. Okay. American Hero. Great title for a football film? Yes or no. Is that the...

Are you sure that's the title? American hero. Gravedigger shaking's head, no. Ah! What did I say? That's what I said, right? No, you did not say that, but that's... All right, so we're going to get to all the games that are played on Sunday.

And why not start, yes, with the late games. There were two that ended within minutes of each other, high on drama. And yes, the first one, AFC North. Buckle up, baby. Hoa! Freeman stands to a... was right. Freeman gets a fake. Big rush. He throws it. And it's dropped by Mark Andrews. Had one hand on it. Out in the right flat and it dropped the ball. And the Steelers preserve a victory

with 12 seconds to go. Wow. Bill Hillgrove with the call. All right. Let's, that was not a drop by Mark Andrews. He got a fingertip on it. A two-point conversion. That's what John Harbaugh said. The Ravens score the touchdown. Pulleth in one point. They said, we want to go for two. We want to win the ball game, John Harbaugh said. Play like a Raven, all that stuff. He went for the win, but that gamble cost the Ravens

and kept the Steelers in the mix in the AFC North. The pass went incomplete. Lamar just overthrew his tight end. 2019 final. Sammy Watkins had the big touchdown catch on a great little route to get it within one with 12 seconds to play. But Pittsburgh got to stop or got a little lucky, whatever you want to say. Either way, they got the win.

Marky, I try to warn you. I said, don't. You can't count out Pittsburgh. This is what they do. And this was a spot where they were desperate for a win. And the Ravens could stand to take a loss. And all of it all played out. And the Steelers are in the mix, though.

Yeah, I mean, it's like I'm not uninformed by the idea that Pittsburgh is a resilient team that does things like this. But what I had seen coming into this game, frankly, what they showed on offense for the first three quarters of this game, all played up to what we were saying about Pittsburgh's, like, insufficient offense. I mean, just an absolute mess. They had 18 plays in the first half. They had 93 total yards, and the Ravens put up 23 minutes of time of possession,

which is the most the Ravens have had against any team in 20 years. Where Pittsburgh was staying alive was they were doing what other teams have done to Lamar Jackson, seven sacks on the day, coaxed them into an early, costly interception, And then at that point, Pittsburgh's offense, I think they found themselves. I mean, we've seen it for spurts in certain games. But the Najee Harris and Benny Snell started to get to Pittsburgh right up the middle with runs right up the gut. And you finally started to get plays from Big Benny. He hit Chase's play pool on a 40-yarder.

Deonti Harris started to completely come alive in this game. Deonti Johnson, sorry, they absolutely, like, fourth quarter-wise, you get. It gives you hope if you're a Steelers fan the way that they were able to. I think use play action, which Tony Roma pointed this out too, that their only successful plays ceded to come off that. And they started to use a little bit more in Big Ben's arm. He threw some of the better passes he's thrown on the year to get them back into this game. It was a classic Steelers' Ravens game in many different ways.

If this is the last Ben Rathesberger victory, and Mark was saying all week they're not going to win another game all season. So it's possible. All right, let Mark off the hook. It's been a tough year for all of us. They got a tough scare. I'm just having fun because I don't think Mark really believe that. So I'm having fun with it.

I also don't think Mark. I believe they were done as a playoff team. And in this AFC, they're not done. That still might end up being true with this schedule. They're not in the playoffs right now. But you went from believing that to when they finished that touchdown drive and Deante Johnson put it on Marlon Humphrey. And I believe injured Marlon Humphrey because his route was so good because Marlon Humphrey's hurt.

Now, at that point in the game, you said, oh, Ben Rathesberger's going to be in the AFC championship, isn't he? Well, I was doing the little thing. I can just see it now. Yeah. And that is an unbelievable fourth quarter. To go four for 78 touchdown, 10 for 50, field goal, 11 for 59 touchdown is outrageous. And for Lamar to get them back in that position, then come up about two inches short.

If he just puts that ball, like, Big Ben did this little thing where he, like, points up to the sky. And then it's just like, I'm going to be, he's not out of my life in four or five weeks. Like what Greg alluded to, there was a report that came out Saturday that this is going to be Big Ben's final season. And if this is the end for Big Ben, I guess if you're a Steelers fan who's been nostalgic thinking about that and all the memories that have passed during his long career, this was a bit of a vintage throwback game. Now, that decision by John Harbaugh, it was fun as hell in the moment. We all applauded it in the newsroom. We all stared at our screens and with awe and reverence for. a man having onions that size.

But there is also a strategic reason behind it, according to Harbaugh, who told the media after the game that issues in the secondary help prompt the decision. Trying to win the decision right there. We were pretty much out of corners, you know, at that point in time. So there's an opportunity to try to win the game right there. So there you go. So Harbaugh said my defense is so beat up. I don't like my chances in overtime.

Greg, do you, I mean, ultimately it was a good play call, too, the two-point conversion. It just wasn't executed. Was it a good play call? I mean, everyone's like, okay, he was open, yes. But if you watch the play, Lamar Jackson has to move, shift up in the pocket with like a lateral quickness that basically no other quarterback in the league could do to avoid T.J. Y and then throw it over his outstretched hands.

I thought it was a pretty good throw. He's an open receiver at the goal line, though, Greg. I know what you're saying, but it was not as if it was a lot of, What I'm saying is how great of a play call is, I think Lamar Jackson did a pretty good job on that play, and Mark Andrews did a pretty good job on the play, like, trying for it, and they're two great players, and you couldn't execute. I mean, it was a difficult play. Interesting way to look at it. I mean, the theme also that was that T.J. Watt was in his face.

He was in his face-all game. Chris Wormley. At the two and a half-sex. A ball that close in that spot, considering Watt never bought the play fake. So if you're going to give credit to the play fake, then you have to confuse T.J. on that play and he read it and he had a monster game so and also i think part of this mark when when you were kind of all in on the steelers being all out we know the offense is still limited this is kind of who they are they're just not going to score a lot of points anymore at this point at least until they get a new quarterback which is coming sooner sooner rather than later but i think

the defense stepping up after they got embarrassed uh by cincinnati the week prior that showed again that they are a team that they're not going to go out easily and in baltimore on the tv show on Friday, I set up the Ravens by asking you guys, can the Ravens keep doing this? Can they keep playing teams so close and always finding away? And they almost did it again in this game, but it just goes to show you like there's regression involved here. If you play this many close games, you're going to start losing some of them. They just have to play more complete football. Well, and if you, the Blitz versus Lamar is for real. I mean, his numbers are staggeringly different and, you know, not shiny when he's dealing with the Blitz. They got to him today. I mean, last

week Cleveland coaxed him into a bunch of turnovers. I'm not saying that he's Teflon because he still does things that are really special, but he looked like a one-man show for large parts of this game today, and I don't think that is sustainable. You get to the playoffs, yes, but are you going to go on a three-game win streak in the postseason with Lamar being Lamar and with what teams are doing right now? Well, he's struggled for more than a month. The red zone interception really hurt.

The average 4.7 yards per play. Their offense isn't great. I mean, Sammy, the touchdown drive at the end of the game was kind of amazing. Sammy Watkins makes a couple great routes and looks like old Sammy Watkins and Lamar kind of has an MVP type of drive and you can't finish it. But the game ends and after the game you hear that Marlon Humphrey is out multiple weeks, their best cornerback. Patrick McCarie, who to me has been the key to that offensive line at right tackle,

kind of coming out of nowhere and it's been off and on. It sounds like his injury is pretty serious. So you just lost two more of your best players to a team that's been really banged up And it gives the feel that this AFC North, we went into the season thinking, oh, maybe all four of these teams have a chance. And I still feel like all four of these teams at least have a chance now because of this result. All right. Let's move on to another game that went down to the final seconds this time in Seattle.

The building is shaking with a single setback. Coropolo looks. Ball is tipped up in the air. It's going to fall to the ground. The Seahawks are going to win this football game. The fourth and three paths was tipped at the line of scrimmage. I don't know who tipped it, but I want to go down and shake that man's hand. I might have been Dunlap.

It was, Carlos Dunlap. It was been quiet this year, but stepped up in this game. He had a sack that play on fourth down, saving the Seahawks in a 30-23 win over the 49ers, ending a 49ers win streak. A crazy game here. By the way, the Niners took over after an incredible goal line stand that ended in a Gerald Everett turnover. And Gerald Everett had one of the worst games you will ever see.

Any tight end ever have. You will be stunned when you watch this tape of Gerald Everett and the Seahawks. They take over the Niners at their own two and march all the way to the other end of the field and have that chance, gets the fourth down, and Dunlop knocks that ball away. And the Seattle Seahawks, I mean, listen, they're still probably cooked at four and eight.

but this was a game and I locked up the Niners took the L Mark you have first place in the Fox Challenge I don't view I look at things long term I'm not concerned

with where I am in the standings at the moment I mean I the way that Mark was celebrating every good Seahawks play that is not

and then when Dan came to the office then it got quiet then he didn't do it anymore and it's funny because he was saying how much he likes the 49 years that is total fiction The dad comes in and it's just total silence. Total fiction.

An utter fiction that you've created verbally. I manufactured, if anything, I like the idea of Seattle being taken out of the landscape. And I've been rooting for the Niners. So I wasn't sitting around celebrating this. I believe Greg in this case. Because I know, and this is fine. Well, of course you do. But it's just not accurate.

This is just fine because you do love the locks competition at a level that I think surpasses any of us. That's fine. It's cool. You're a competitive guy. That does not make Greg's story accurate. even though what you said is true. I do care about the competition. It doesn't turn that into a true story.

I like your competitive spirit, Mark. Okay. Enjoy it. But let's get back to the game. 30, 23. They got this stop. And I thought this was interesting. The Seahawks that we saw in this game,

and this is a weird game. It had seven turnovers. It had the aforementioned Gerald Everett meltdown, a drop in the end zone on a wide open pass that turned into an I&T, a fumble down at the goal line that almost swung the game the other way. Another fumble that he lost. I mean, it was out of this world. There was a safety in this game. But ultimately, I thought the takeaway, Mark, was that the Seahawks who look dead and buried, as dead as the Steelers looked last week, they played like the old Seahawks. And again,

they give the 49ers problems, even when the 49ers were at their height. And if there's one other thing I took away from it from the niner side of things, man, you know, I'm not saying Jimmy G is the reason they lost this game. But you could tell Kyle Shanahan is just frustrated by the limitations that his quarterback presents in front of it. It was the safety where I, you know, they cut to Shanahan after Jimmy G is taken down in the end zone. You know, this is after they were clinging to a 23, 21 lead. And Seattle, I thought, grabbed momentum, if we're allowed to believe that that exists with that safety. And Shanahan looked cold and old to me on the sideline after that.

And he also looked super steamed at Jimmy G after a later really bad interception. Jimmy G. was later stuffed on third and one that led to. a punt in a really tight game going back and forth. It was like, we get it. Jimmy G is not the future, but he's not even the short-term future when he's playing like that. Did Elijah Mitchell come back? Or was he out? He did. He came back. Okay, that's good. He suffered a head injury. But their ground game was a mess. Two point eight yards per carry. They didn't run the ball. In general, the offense, they got off to a nice start. Oh, I should also mention there was a, after all, all those other things I mentioned, but also Seattle opened it scoring on a 73-yard

Travis Homer fake punt run for a touchdown. I mean, this game had it all. But San Francisco's offense was basically George Kittle being unbelievable. I mean, George Kittle, when he's healthy, he's better than everybody else. That plays that position. I really do believe that. His health and staying healthy has been his biggest challenge. But, yeah, they didn't move the ball too well for stretches of this game, San Francisco.

And I thought Russell Wilson, 30 of 37, 231, two touchdowns. He had one of those very pretty rainbow touchdowns to Tyler Lockett. And I thought to myself after it was thrown, I was like, man, I haven't seen that in a while. So we'll see if it wakes up Seattle and they end up either playing spoiler or somehow getting back into the playoff race. But for San Francisco, did awaken some maybe demons that cost them earlier in this season. Did Lockett come back into this game?

Because he left for the locker room. He also came back, yes. And he scored after that. They're in the NFC, which is the best news for the 49ers. So even with like a loss, they're a loss up. on the 7 seed, or the 8 seed, rather, they're in the playoffs. And the Seahawks, you know,

they do have the Texans, Bears, Lions still on the schedule. They do have some tough games at the Rams Cardinals. It is nice to just see the idea that Russell Wilson can play quarterback again, though, when you would have thought if you can put up this many points for the 49ers, the way Seattle has been playing lately, you win this game. But to score 21 points for Seattle in the second quarter is pretty awesome. And this, like, this rock-cissor paper thing going on in the NFC West is like the one predictable thing in all of football right now.

That, like, it's indestructible. The Seahawks have beaten them 16 out of 18 times. Like, that precedes Shanahan even, but that is outrageous. Nothing would be more emblematic than the 15th-seated Seahawks in the NFC grabbing a playoff spot on January 9th or whenever that is. The game started in a very scary way on the kickoff when Trenton Cannon running back. collided with a teammate and it stopped the game down. An ambulance came out and the face mask comes off and all that scary stuff.

He's taken to the hospital with a concussion. He's in stable condition remaining overnight for observation. And one note on Kittle, just the second tight end in the past five seasons with at least 100 yards receiving and two touchdowns in the first half. His touchdown where he danced along the sideline, his second score, just special stuff. He is just such a beast. He's fun to watch. They got to get healthier.

They didn't have Fred Warner. They didn't have Devo Samuel. These are their best players. Marcel Harris, Manuel Mosley, suffering an ankle injury. They need to get healthy. All right, let's move on. So those two games, saucy. Now, up next, the Detroit Lions.

Could they finally get it done? Could they get a W? Let's find out. Well, you probably know. The Lions 11 yards from the end of the show. They've got to have. Four seconds to go. They can win it with a touchdown.

First victory of the year. year on the line. Golf's got it. Back, looks, gross. And so. Caught touchdown to Troy Lions. They did it. Amon Rosset-Brown in the receiving end.

Oh, they're rushing. The field. They've done it. 3-0s on the clock. This game is over. It's over. Jared Goff to Amund Rosset Brown, his first career touchdown. And how big is that?

Oh, my goodness. Dan Miller with the call. I thought the Lions would get the bongos, Ricky. If any team ever deserve the bongos, Dan Miller, WJR with the call. And a great call it was. Lions fans rejoice. You got your W. Jared Gough threw an 11-yard touchdown pass to Amon Rae St. Brown.

As time expired, lifting the previously, winless Detroit Football Club to a 2927 win over the Vikings at Joyce Forfield. We told you. We told you about the Vikings this week. They could not be trusted. Greg, the lines needed to go 75 yards and 110 seconds with no timeouts, and they freaking did it. It was one of my favorite games and certainly one of my favorite moments of this entire season. There is something about when the last team that doesn't have a win, get to win,

especially when it's this deep that is joyous. It reminds me of Cleo Lemon to Greg Camarillo to get Cam Cameron off the Schneide in December for the Dolphins like a decade ago. It was heroic by Jared Goff, this drive where they just stayed patient and patient. And Godwin Iguabike made this great play on a catch, this running back to pick up a third in 10 and get out of bounds.

And I just kept saying, wow, they're not going for the ends. They're not going for the end zone. Not one time you get to the 12 and give Goff credit. He had great timing throughout this game. He releases that ball in perfect time before Amon Rae St. Brown turns around. The throw was there. The rookie first touchdown of his career. What a way to get it.

And Vikings fans are just going to be killing Cameron Dancer. But he was held by Jared Goff, who was looking up the seams with his eyes, where they'd been killing the Vikings all day because they didn't have Anthony Barr, they didn't have Eric Kendricks, and he had been going up the seams all day. So it looked in the first TV copy, just like bad defense,

but that was a great job by Jared Goff, and then a great job by Goff to immediately sprint to the sideline and hugged Dan Campbell, who was celebrating like crazy. You did it. We asked you to go win a ballgame, Jared Goff, and you did it.

I mean, and yet we have been sort of pet Vikings supporters, and that fan base right now is as lost as... Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Not we. I have enjoyed the Vikings all season long, and that continues. Every week they play exciting, fun, ridiculous games. I'm just so happy I'm not a Vikings fan.

I've supported their season because it's fun. This is an exciting, fun game on its own, but I think that fan base feels like they've been dragged through the mud week after week. It's an absolute nightmare scenario for them. They were down 20 to 6 in this game. if you're a Vikings fan you come all the way back to take a lead

you think you're going to keep it and then the lions go for it on their own 29 with five minutes to go up to this was ballsyer than the Bill Belichick going up against the Colts play who they famously did it

more than a decade ago because they had the lead in that game he goes for it and you know what the football gods rewarded him that's twice in one One day, Campbell went for it on fourth and one in his own end. They didn't get it either time. But I liked it because they're trying to win it on offense.

And if nothing else, it didn't give the Vikings too much time to waste. They were either going to get their field goal or touchdown quickly. And the Lions could at least try to respond. They got the touchdown, which was not the outcome you wanted that the Vikings did, but at least gave the Lions a little bit of time to go. The heroes. I think the Viking, and it's just, It's funny because it's been saying, like, they could beat any team, they could lose any team.

And now, and I'll use the power rankings as the framing because I'm known to do that. The Packers are the number one team in the power rankings. They beat the Packers. The Lions entering Sunday were the number 32 team in the Power Rangers. They've now been beaten by the Lions. And it's just like, and you've been mentioning this mark at times, that Mike Zimmer is a guy who could be in trouble. I think if Zimmer, there's a pretty decent chance he goes in January. And if it happens, you could trace it right back to what happened here.

because not only just the frustrations building within that organization, within the fan base, and to let this game get away in the wide open NFC, and you just never know. Again, let's not get ahead of ourselves and say the Vikings are dead now because the NFC is a total free-for-all. Only one back.

Exactly. But like if they end up dropping another one of these type of games or, you know, just fall short and he gets fired, well, remember this game on December 5th. And speaking of remembering, Dan Campbell, this was really nice. after the game, in this press conference, Campbell gave the game ball to, you know, he dedicated the game to the victims of the Oxford shooting, that horrible tragedy that happened

in Michigan last week, the school shooting. He named the victims. He said those names will never be forgotten. And that was incredibly meaningful, I imagine, for that region, because that was such a horrible thing that happened. So just like in a season of such frustration and for the Lions, this was a nice moment. Yeah, and I've often found Jared Goff to be a little vacant in terms of being an electrifying personality. But he spoke after the game as well about the Oxford incident and was brought to tears.

And I just think like it kind of shows you that regionally but nationally that was on their hearts, it was a huge moment. And I will say this, if you're the Vikings, you have a game coming up against the Steelers on Thursday night. That becomes a massive Thursday night showdown. The injuries are such a huge story. Before the game, we found out that both those linebackers I mentioned were out there. Left tackle, Christian Derisaw was out.

Cam Bynum, who's played great lately, was out. Patrick Peterson was out. And Adam Thielen went out during this game, which helped Justin Jefferson go off for another 11 for 182. He's on Cooper Cups' tail, I think, for this offensive player of the year. It was not enough. It was not a fluke either. Kirk Cousins got away with a couple would-be interceptions.

Dan Campbell was calling the plays and was really out-foxed Zimmer, at least for the first half. Then it kind of slowed down. But they were going up. That doesn't cool Zimmer's seat. No. Zimmer's seat is warm it up. All right.

Let us move up. By the way, I had asked Ricking Gravedigger to pull the Paul Allen Vikings call. And he was very even keeled because it's like, first of all, Paul Allen's been doing it a long time. As a Vikings fan, you kind of see this stuff coming now. It's just like this is what happens with this team. It's a stage play for him. It's the same role every week.

That was next level. Unbelievable. All right. Let's head to Cincinnati where the Bengals couldn't have possibly be stopped. Or could they? Now they go jumbo. Mix and bounces. Right, ball on the ground, scooped up by Tavon Campbell.

40, 30, 20, 10, touchdown, shot. Rodgers, 60-yard fumble return for Tavon Campbell. Oh, money, the voice of God. On the around the NFL podcast, power rankings cohort. He had the call for KYSR. Tavon Campbell, returned to Joe Mix and fumble, 61 yards for a score, helping the Chargers hold off the Bengals. 4122.

a game defined by streaks. 24 straight for the bolts to start the game. 22 straight for the Bengals after that. And then 17 straight by the bolts to close out after that. And it was the Campbell play that changed everything. It was one of seven turnovers. I think the Chargers had three straight at one point. And hence the Bengals scoring 22 unanswered.

And the Bengals are going in for what would have been a go-ahead score midway through the third quarter. I mean, the chargers, if nothing else, they're doing their charger in a little earlier this year. That's a good way to do it. Get it out of the way, not at the end of the game. They were up 24-0 mid-second quarter, and then they were holding on to a 24-22 lead

while the Bengals are driving mid-third quarter, one quarter later, like 12, 14 minutes of game, or 15 minutes of game time later, that fumble changed it. Echler had a couple fumbles, mixing out a couple of, you know, great players kind of giving up the ball. But I thought it was deserved because the one constant throughout this

game was they got after Joe Burrow. And I was kind of shocked by that because the Chargers have not been good in terms of their past rush all season. Joey Bosa got a concussion in this game. If you remember last year, he was out for a long time with a pair of concussion. So that is a big time concern for the Chargers. And that was very early in this game. And yet, as it kept coming, Burrow played fantastic.

He had one of the best performances in a quarterback that ended up getting blown out. I've seen... With a bad hand. Right. With a pinky, hurt, making good decisions, throwing the ball against pressure. It was not on Joe Burrow. But the Chargers kept getting them. In the running game, they were getting mixing for negative plays,

including that force fumble was a jackknife into the backfield. And the Bengals were short, two offensive linemen. I can hear the Wessling brothers say, say that they were injured. Okay, they're injured, Nick. Speaking of the Wessling. Yeah, I was a guy. And I don't hear Nick Wesleying. You know, Nick, love him.

He's the best. But he's getting, after the game, when it's 24 Zip, he's texting us. And he's saying, I actually had two recordings, one to go against the Bengals, one to go with the Chargers, and I sent the wrong one. It's like, no, bro. No, he didn't say he sent the wrong one. Not the accidentally, but he made the wrong decision. I think he's sort of maybe, you know, removing himself from the rest of the group,

saying I was on, you know, on both sides of the fence. But infighting seems to be a consistent problem for that group. It's good. Do you believe that, by the way? Do you believe that he actually made a recording? I absolutely believe that he made two recordings and he was debating. Nick, send me the other recording with a timestamp, please. It makes sense, though. Both these teams deserve to be 7 and 5.

I'm sorry, Bengals. I don't think you deserve to be 8 and 4. This is who you are. And the Chargers deserved it because- You called that, Greg. They were dictating early. They threw the ball deep. They went tempo early.

They, now, Mike Williams making plays down the field. I like that when they were aggressive, they were moving the pocket for Justin Herbert to try to fix their offensive line problems and it was a very aggressive game plan and so I think they got really good. I'm not doing this again where I, you know, fall for,

this is the team that I fell so hard for and went on like a one-man PR campaign about how the Bengals can beat anyone in football. Well, it's nonsense because Mark was fired up during the early games too. And did you have money on this game? Because he was not. No, he would not.

I am forbidden to do that. He was dying that the Charter's, were winning this game, and I couldn't think of why. One reason is that you, but you and I, we somehow, like, were kind of, like, we weren't arguing at all, Greg, but, like, you were very pro-chargers watching this, very, you know, very juiced up, and I was watching live forever, I'm not, I don't hide it. I'm not walking around rooting for the Bengals, but it was more just like this, you know, I'm annoyed with Greg, exactly, and you find out that, and you, I should have figured this out

two months ago, nothing sticks from week to week this season. You stuck your neck out for the Bengals, and. Dumb move. And that is, and we talked about it late last week. Like that is, that's a tricky move because as good as they were in those last two wins, it wasn't so long ago that they looked terrible in back-to-back losses. And they're just like, they're just like, well, maybe a better version, but like the Vikings, they can beat any team.

And they've shown that they could lose and lose convincingly in a big spot as well. It's just why the league is such a jumble this year. And now watching the Ravens lose later, obviously they're happy for that. They're one game back. but they could have been in first place. Huge win, though, I think, for the Chargers to get this offense going, Guyton and Allen, and everyone was making plays for them today. Do you trust them at all to do that next week?

I don't care who they're playing. No, of course not. The Chargers are even less trustworthy to me. But it is, especially without Bice. It is destabilizing to my eyes to deal with this, but it is the new way it is. It is the way it is. If you, like, kind of just, like, embrace the madness. Yeah.

This has helped me. with my power rankings assignment. Otherwise, I would start to have some mental issues over it. Just embrace it and understand it's not your fault when you get these things wrong because who can tell? No, much more freeing to just say, I have no control. You control me. All right. I like that. All right, let's take a break and then get to Nick Shook. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game from scouting reports and player development

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Oh, man. The Rams needed a layup. And that's what the Jaguars are. Let's be honest. J.B. Long, our buddy, hung out with J.B. This summer. Gonna do it again next summer. Maybe even before that.

In the winter is... Maybe the winter. Maybe the spring will hang out. Every season will hang out once. Matthew Stafford snapped out of a slump with three touchdown passes, including yet another scoring connection, with Cooper Cup and Los Angeles rolled to a 37-7 win over the unwatchable Jaguars. Hey, Shook, so we, our newsroom right next to the stadium,

I actually, when I was throwing out some trash, because for some reason, in this new building, They say, let's build a 10,000 square foot newsroom with four trash cans. You know, we're talking, the closest trash can to us is about 40 yards away. Here's the, I'm with you that it is annoying. One second, show. You have to get up every, every, you know, 20 minutes and walk with your paper plate or whatever and find a trash can.

But on those Sundays in the Culver City office around 3, 4 o'clock, those full garbage cans started to have a putrid stench. I don't miss that. That's all I'd say. It feels more cleanly. Anyway, so when I walked to the trash can and I went to the big glass partition that shows the vista of the SoFi Stadium, all those happy Rams fans filing out after a blowout win. I thought to myself, I wonder what it's like for you to walk out of a stadium as a fan of a team after an easy win like that, shook, because the Rams needed it.

Yeah, they definitely needed it, and Jacksonville came to town at the perfect time. Shooky! you know, to break this losing streak for them. It was one of those games where the Rams got off to another slow start offensively, and it was kind of like, well, they're still haven't really figured it out, and then they hit halftime, and it's almost as if they realize, oh, wait, we're playing the Jaguars the other side of the field. We should be able to do this, and they woke up,

and Matthew Stafford specifically with three touchdown passes in the second half, they cruised. I mean, it was an easy operation for them in the second half. The big thing for me, I think that really encouraged me for the Rams was, I know it's the Jaguars, so like you have to take it with the grain of salt, but Sony Michelle breaks 120 rushing yards today on 24 carries for a touchdown. That was a welcome development for a team that has not been able to run the football consistently for most of this season.

And it helped bring some balance them. And like I said, they just, they cruise. You're playing the Jaguars. The Jaguars, you're one week closer to the offseason. Henderson, I was watching that game and thinking they miss Henderson. It didn't end up mattering, obviously. It was like Henderson would have had $2.25. The hole that they were blowing open for Sony and Michelle were enormous.

and I'm beginning to think, like, an offense where Laquan Treadwell is your number one receiver for two straight weeks, maybe not that explosive. This Jackers team. It would have been explosive the year he was drafted. What are we doing here? The one note that I took on this game because I wasn't able, Nick, to track it as closely as you,

was the look on Urban Meyer's face, like roughly kind of late third quarter, early fourth, as if someone just had stuck slices of lemon into his mouth. I mean, it just, he does not look like he's, having any fun out there on any level. There's that memorable photo of Urban Meyer after he lost two, I don't remember who it was, and I think the Big Ten title game

in the bowels of Lucas Oil Stadium eating Papa John's pizza on a golf cart. That's like his entire season has been that photo. Dan wanted Aaron Donald to like do some things. He was totally, he started the game literally by picking up James Robinson, throwing him while knocking the ball out, which was exciting.

And then he totally wrecked shopped the rest of the game. So, you know, it did so. Against the worst offense, any of us have ever seen. Hey, it was a start. It's a start. In a big spot, we're going to need Aaron Donald to win a ball game, but that is a good start. Oh, shook. I like this Dan Aaron Donald thing.

This is going to, at some point you're going to meet in person. We even got OBJ, like, the one-yard touchdown to make everyone happy at the end. That was fun. What do you think about the OB? Yeah, he's got two in two weeks now. I mean, hey, it was a jump ball in the end zone, and they were up by a ton of points, so it doesn't matter to me. He also saved his body on one of those. To be fair, you know that play that everyone killed him on in Cleveland for not going for?

The play that he didn't go for today in the end zone was five times worse. It was way worse. Like the other one was questionable. This one was like, I am not going to hurt my back on this play. But, you know. What about Shuck if we just put, I'm not saying you need to have trash bins for every desk, but just in different quadrants of the new newsroom. What about that?

I'm stunned. I mean, you guys have state-of-the-art equipment everywhere else. You know, you got great desk chairs. You got standing desks. You got your names on the frosted glass or whatever it is. I mean, for somebody who's never been there, it looks fantastic. To hear this development about lack of trash. Are you not coming to the holiday party?

We got the holiday party on Tuesday, Shook. I mean, you did choose to move to Cleveland. So, I mean, well, yeah, I was lured here. Like, Shook, do you have heated toilet seats in your house? Because that's what we have here at work if you were to come to our work. They're kind of gross. I hear there's also bidetes there. There are.

Not on this program. to try that. Saving for the Badei podcast. All right, Shucky, let's move on to the next game on your docket. By the way, can you expense a flight for the holiday party? I would love to, but I think it's too late to make that manageable. All right. Let's hit the next game.

Midshu takes the snap. He backs up. He looks. He is looping in, catching it, Goddard, in for a second touchdown. Made it look easy. There's that guy again. Merrill Reese and Mike. Quick for WIP.

Garner Meantz started in place of an injured Jalen Hertz, led the Eagles to scores on their first seven possessions. 3318, the final over the Jets at the Meadowlands. Shook, Minchu had open receivers all day long against the Jets defense that, according to some players said they had no idea that there could be a scenario where Gardner Minchu would be playing in the game. It looked like that all afternoon. that seems like a lack of preparation but yeah you're right it did he had 11 straight

completions to start the game uh he was he was very sharp i mean he's gardener minchu it's not like he's erin rogers back there but he got the offense moving kept them moving to the point where late in the game i'm sitting there thinking come on jets like take another two more minutes off the clock on this drive when you're already down two scores we got to finish with a scoring result on every eagle's possession i want some historical outcome from this game just because it was already decided at that point ultimately they had to to punt on the following possession. But before that, I mean, he was efficient and really paced this offense.

Miles Sanders also got involved and was a huge part of their offense today, 120 yards in the ground. A Sony-Michel-like game, if you will, he left with an ankle injury, so hopefully that's not too serious. But the big story, I think for me, besides Gardner, Minchu, is Dallas Goddard. I mean, how can you not love Dallas Goddard since they traded Zach Earth? He stepped up and I think kind of owned that tight end one role. I mean, that's how he got that extension.

And he continues to. And in games like this, where you have your backup quarterback and you know he needs to rely on tight end. You got two explosive touchdowns out of it. It was like he wasn't even covered in the first half. And if you, if you think that the Eagles fan base and those reporters in Philly aren't clamoring for a QB battle here or a controversy, you don't know Philly sports. After the game, Nick Siriani was asked if Gardner Minshu might have a chance to steal the job from Jalen Hertz. But with Jalen being our star, I think he's played good football, you know, I think he's played really good football. You know, I think there's been, there's been, there's been times where he's

been one of the best in the league with the way he's moved around, made plays, and, you know, with his, you know, we look at that quarterback rating and what he, what he's had there. And so he's played, he's played really good football when he's in. And so when he's healthy and he's back, he'll be our starter. Well, they got a buy week coming up, which might have informed the decision not to play him. They're just, he hurts is the identity of that team because their identity is a running team. Now, the fact that they were able to run for 185 today without him shows it's it's not just hurts but they were they were playing the and that's only 11 yards from minchu i mean it's i minchu i've done calling andy dalton or anyone else

the best backup in the league it's gardiner minchu he's an assassin minchew is a very good backup he's great i think the only thing i'll say about this is and this has happened with other teams with the jets defense the jet's defense is so bad it's like trying to draw too many conclusions I'm worried about the whole operation was solid because I know they're under man they don't have a lot of talent and injuries have taken some of their best players but they are just completely non-competitive

on some of these weeks and I thought that maybe they had patched some things up they were impossible to watch in this game sounded like Zach Wilson though has a great start to the game like what's the boy who shall lead us? The boy who shall lead us on their and this is my favorite jet stat in a long time

the jet scored touchdowns on their first three possessions, but after their opponent's first three possessions, they were losing by a field goal. You can't make that up. Random kicker number 37 missed two extra points and did not see the field again except for kickoffs. And then they went for two and missed on their third score. And then that was it for their offense in the defense of Michael Flore and Company and Zach Wilson. They didn't even see the ball in the third quarter. They had the ball for 70 seconds in the third quarter. So there just wasn't much going on after those first three drives.

But it was progress. He came out, shook, and he was throwing darts, and he looked comfortable. And that had been a major issue this season for Wilson coming into these games and looking terrible. He looked genuinely great early on. Yeah, I was really excited to see that type of composure and the ability to get the ball on the field in the first half. I thought we were going to be in for a four-quarter game until the third quarter happened.

And like you said, the Jets didn't really see the football, and the Eagles started to pull away. But I like the competition from him. I like the fact that he was able to kind of go toe to toe with, you know, Gardner Minchu of all names, but still an NFL offense on the other side of the ball. That, you know, he kept them in the game. The Elijah Moore thing is building steam, but it's still not there, but it's building steam. I'm excited about their future.

It's just like you can pick small things out of it. Like it's not a complete loss. Like when you watch the Jaguars, you're like, I don't even know where to talk positively about this team. There are moments of inspiration. It's just they haven't put it together. and that's teams like this, that tends to be the case. That's six straight losing seasons now for the Jets, who are three and nine.

And Minchu, I seek it out if you haven't seen it. Minchu celebrating with his dad after the game. He is a funny dude, Minchu. He's got juice. I don't know what. I don't know. I would love to see like what his day-to-day deal is because he seems really interesting.

All right, there's one more game with Shook, and it is the other New York team. Oh, New Jersey, actually. There's only one New York team. I mean, the person with that accent probably wouldn't be saying that so much. It's the Western New York accent, but I don't know what that is. Oh, yes, our bills are so special. Classic Buffalo.

Play action fake to a. Rolling to his left roll. I would like to have some wings now. I'm from rest of New York. It makes her the two-four game. Oh, that's huge right there. It's left to play. Oh, let us journey to orchid pie.

We'll lunch in summer there. Jimmy Sepulow with the call for WQA.M. The dolphins keep winning to a tongue-up by Loa through a pair of short touchdown passes. Dolphins extend their winning streak to five games, topping the Mike Lennon led. And it will be Mike Lennon. Well, if he's healthy for the foreseeable future, Daniel Jones is going to miss multiple weeks for this neck issue. Anyway, 29, 229, final score, Dolphins over the Jimon. on the most beautiful natural turf in America.

Shook, from 1 in 7 to 6 and 7 with a favorable schedule ahead, had the Dolphins do it on Sunday. Similarly, how they've done in the last month. I mean, their defense has really given their offense a runway to either succeed or struggle, and today was more of a struggle. Not on the part of Tua, who had a very strong game. I think he has four straight games of the past rating over 100, which is good for them.

But, I mean, we've seen this from the Giants kind of the last few weeks, is that their defense has come together. So it was kind of a scrappy, grinded out sort of game that the dolphins ended up pulling away in. Not one that's super aesthetically pleasing, but because the dolphins, it's like you got two teams that are kind of similar, but the dolphins are just a little bit better in certain areas,

and that's what produces a 20 to 9 win, and the ability to come through in the clutch. It's just something that the Giants still haven't been able to do is, you know, in key downs. You know, they're 6 to 16 on 3rd down. Not that the dolphins are much better. They're 6 to 15, but there's just a slight difference between these two teams

and the dolphins have that positive momentum going because they can rely on their defense and hope they get enough out of their offense and they got enough out of it today. And I continue to be very impressed by Jalen Waddle. I mean, he is the go-to guy in that offense. And he went down with cramps and for a moment, it was like, we're fearing a knee injury. And then he came back and he was smiling on the sideline. And it was like all of Dolphins Nation, wherever they reside in Miami or otherwise, they were all rejoicing at the fact that their greatest offensive hope is still good to go.

I know Miami has a consistent wandering eye, center. But I feel like the Tua experience over the last couple of weeks has shown you that he is accurate. He's efficient. They've put the offense around him in a way that I, you know, with Waddle, especially the connection has been valuable for them. Like, I don't know if it's enough to keep the job with the way they operate, but he's making an argument for himself. Yeah, he was, they were one rare Jalen Wattle drop away from maybe having another touchdown on the board because he hit him on a quick slant. He had plenty of room to run. He just didn't catch the ball. So maybe the stat line looks better and maybe that's the highlight that you lean on.

You're like, oh, look, there's the connection. It's really starting, you know, he's got the job. But I think he's done enough in the last few weeks. And we'll see, you know, they've still got five weeks left. I think he's done enough in the last few weeks to at least earn a right to the discussion for next year. And if he can continue this type of play and they can somehow like maybe sneak in the playoffs or be right on the edge, it's going to be really hard, I think, unless it's Deshawn

Watson and you figure all that out to necessarily move on from him if he, you know, finish this strong. You know what you should do? As long as this winning street continues, we should not bring up that name as long as the dolphins keep winning. We should have a moratorium on that name until the dolphins fall. It's not us, though. It's the owner and like...

Well, we're mentioning him every time we bring up the dolphins. That's fair. I just mean like that the fact that they went so far into it, because you said like, okay, he'd probably have earned like another look. If they got rid of him after this season, it would almost be unprecedented for a top five pick with the numbers that he's had with the, you know, people, I'm not a big QB wins guy, but it's like, you know, they've won way more games than they've lost with Tua as the starting quarterback. If you go back to last year, they're like 10 and 7. They bounce back

from 1 and 7. Now, most of it is the defense, but he does specific things really well. And they've, they have, it's hard to get too excited when you're beating like Tyrae Taylor 179 and you're beating Joe Flacco by 2417 and you're beating Mike Glennon by, but they've done their job. and it is amazing for a team that we all said was like a mess internally that they turned it totally around and they shut everyone out. It should be said you say it's unprecedented

that a team would move on from a quarterback two years in considering all the factor. Well, it's also unprecedented that a potential guy could come on available but we're not saying. I'm just saying like a pick that high who's thrown like 23 touchdowns,

11 interceptions with good numbers and like winning games. It's pretty rare to even be talking about it. All right. I mean, Daniel, Jones would, like, kill a small family for numbers and wins like that. And I do not know that he would do that. Probably, no, I don't know.

Well, maybe. We don't know. No, that's too fine. That's too fine. That's too fine. Hey, Nick Shook, do you fancy a barrel over Niagara Falls, do you? Hey, would you like to stop over in Rochester and get yourself a garbage plate on the way to Orchard Park?

That's my birthplace, Rochester, New York, by the way. Really? Return there 20 years later and was mugged there outside of a bus station. So it's like, welcome back to the park. place of your birth. Ouch, well, sometimes. Soft mugging. I had like a blockbuster card on my wallet at the time. So it wasn't a lot. Would you like to rent a videotape in Rochester, the birthplace of Mark Sessler? Hard pass. Stay out of Rochester, Mark. You no longer welcome. All right, Chuck. See you, buddy. All right, guys. Take a break. And then we'll hit the defending champs.

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Like Dan's bad if you really laughed like six out of the seven times. Gene Decker-Hoff. Not funny, W-F-U-S with the call. Tom Brady threw for 368 and four touchdowns. Two of them to BFF. Rob Grankowski. And the Bucks move to the brink of clinching the NFC South, 3017 win over the Falcons.

That's three, every other team in the NFC South is like four and six or something. It's just like, it's a complete slop fest, and then there's the Bucks. three straight wins for the Bucks they have a four-game lead in that division with five to play it's funny like you know how we on our TV show on Fridays which everyone should check out on Saturdays

on NFL network we talk about when we get to the AFC South we always struggle whoever lands on either the Texans or the Jags like what are you going to talk about for two minutes I continue to have this issue with the Bucks although they're this you know juggernaut like racing back

to the playoffs because I don't really know what to add because they're just taking care of business. I think it's interesting. Grank healthy again, once again is such an important part of the offense. And you could tell just Tom Brady is more comfortable when he's got that guy on the field. He had 27-yard and 11-yard touchdowns. Brady's at 44 years old throwing 51 passes in a game, completing 38. And we've been talking about it.

Greg, and we'll get to Kyler Murray a little bit later. And I know Jonathan Taylor is having a huge season. but you cannot take Tom Brady out of the MVP conversation because he did have a bad pick six that Marlon Davidson showed a lot of athleticism right at the end of the half that made this game almost interesting but ultimately it was Brady and Cruz Control

and he is just piling up the numbers once again. Yeah, he sees Gronk and man coverage in the red zone Gronk's going to get that ball. He sees Chris Godwin in this game period and Godwin's going to get that ball. 15 catches for Godwin, the most of any player for any, in any game all season.

Matt Ryan took 11 quarterback hits and five sacks in this game, whereas they almost, the Bucks, that is, their offensive light, almost had a Golston, which longtime listeners will know is no quarterback hits, no sacks. There was one quarterback hit on Tom Brady, and that's it. The only thing I'm watching is like, can they stay healthy? Carlton Davis returns, and then Jamel Dean, who's the other starting corner, gets a concussion. Edwards is out because he makes the funny Vax card before getting.

Vaxed anyways, which is like the dumbest thing ever. So they seem like they have these things, but they're piling up their wins. Do you come away with any concern about what Atlanta did on the ground early? I think they had like 99 yards rushing when the Bucks had 11. And we know that Tampa's, you know, run defense can put it to teams week after week. Are they, is there any concern there? I guess, I mean, I wasn't really concerned at any point watching the game. Maybe not personally.

Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know. Where the Buc's concern, you'll have to ask them. I couldn't tell you that. I'll get on that. They gave up some yards last week. They can't pass protect Atlanta and their quarterback can't move. And again, it's just like they're a hard watch for me of the Falcons because of that. And Matt Ryan, I just wonder what his long-term future is.

I know the money makes him the guy again next year. But is Arthur Smith watching this guy week after week and be like, man, is this the guy I want to go to war with or another 17 games next year? That's not a popular opinion. Another team that passed on Justin Fields and Mack Jones. I mean, they took pits, but it wasn't. a decision. I just wonder what happens and how complicated, how much the money complicates any decision that they make a quarterback, which is not to put this loss or this season at the feet of

Matt Ryan, but it just feels like he's an odd fit where this organization is right now. He is, but imagine like almost all of the rookie quarterbacks outside of Mack Jones being shoved into that offense this year. It's a cupboard is bare scenario. They are showing a total lack of depth or coaching by playing Jalen Mayfield every week. it's just like there's that one guard I feel like every season that like every one who watches football little just makes fun of because he gives up like four sacks a week and gets dominated and that's jalen mayfield like the opposing team everyone is fighting to line up against jalen mayfield and just like beat him like a drum get you know just have some mercy take him out does not sound fun take him out does not sound enjoyable by the way that's now 90 touchdowns in the regular season for gronk and brady your boy, Greg, Phil Rivers, and Antonio Gates for number two in NFL history. The only duo to have more connections, and it's by a considerable amount, 22 more. Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison.

It's so weird because Brady's season, I would say, is not better than he was last year overall. Right. And he wasn't even an MVP consistent. There's no Aaron Rogers season. Right now he's number one on my QB index. And so then you would have a shot to win, like whoever is the best quarterback is going to have a good shot. It's just a strange season. All right, let us now move to Chicago

where the Bears were hoping to pull an upset with Andy Dalton behind the center. Murray takes the shotgun snap, straight drop back, flushed out of the pocket, rolling right, being chased. He talks, he runs at the five, and he heads to the corner, and he's into the end zone for the touchdown. Dave Pass with the call, KTAR.

Welcome back, Kyler Murray. Cardinals got their star quarterback back on the field, and it paid immediate dividends. Two passing touchdowns, two rushing scores, and a 33-22 victory over the Morabom Chicago Bears. Mark, DeAndre Hopkins was also back in this game. He caught a touchdown pass. Cardinals keep winning.

I think from the side of the offense, you love to see that Kyler Murray had a season high, 59 yards on the ground off of 10 carries. And he looked good, he looked healthy. And DeAndre Hopkins had a couple catches in this game that showed you that acrobatically, athletically, he's fine. The story of the game was this defense. This is, I think, the most balanced team around right now. And you almost forget about them because they went through the Colt McCoy thing, but this defense has delivered week

after week. And they gave Kyler Murray and the attack the ball on four interceptions on the Chicago 28, again on the Chicago 28, the Chicago 15, and the Chicago 12. This was not a game were Arizona playing in a pouring rain. And I don't think that's the best environment for this offense. They were not their typical selves. Kyla Murray had two fumbles on those first two drives. Recovered both of them. But he looked to be affected to some degree by the weather.

There were a couple passes that were off. It didn't matter. I mean, they're just, they were too complete, and the bears are a hot mess. It gets boring to even discuss Matt Nagy, but I do feel like he's starting to come undone on the sideline a little bit. He had this, like, winter hat on that was, like, crooked, over his ears because of his microphone. He was just, oh, he's jawing at the refs.

At one point, Cliff Kingsbury bumped his mouth into a shoulder pad of a Cardinals player and was, like, spitting blood out of his mouth. They cut to, like, Bears consultant, Mike Pettened up in the booth, and he just looks sad and lost. So it was a long day. Wait, what is Mike Patton doing? I didn't know he's a consultant on the team. You know, and they cut to one of those booths with everyone.

I was like, that's Mike Petton. He's just staring out at the clouds. How much do you think? he gets paid for it. Like our salary times eight or something? I mean, please. Do you think Mike Benton gets paid 300 grand for that? Yes, more.

Yeah, I think that's a good over-under. I mean, it's, well, I don't know what player minimum is right now. I would guess a little less than that if I had to guess. Good work, though. He's doing fine. I don't mean, consultant, no one knows what you're doing anyway. You're completely fine. There wasn't like a hot market for his services this off season probably.

He might still be getting paid. I want to do an impression, though, for you. you guys. Is it a British accent from Western New York? Because that bet kills. Greg is above that. What do you guys talk? I laughed the whole time.

That's why I'm pushing back on this. If I had a sour look on my face, it was because I looked down right when you were talking. And I was thinking, oh, I had some great Joe judge points to make that I forgot. But, you know, that's what the Tuesday show is. Hey, yes, you got that. You just chamber that one. That's what the Thursday shows.

You'll come and fly it on that Thursday show. Here's the impression. It's of Mark. you Dalton like that was that was something that happened during today and then another another impression of Mark during this game

yes yes and he was he was look excuse me that was disgusting he was so fired up I'm fired up during this game

he he was yelling at Andy Dalton what is up with you and Dalton by the way because like when Greg tells an accurate story about me I'll say that's exactly right every time Mark speaks Greg concoct some lie.

Not that time. I just want to see the Cardinals be like all they can be, be a dominant team. And they've got a little close at the end where like the Bears with David Montgomery, who I think is the best thing they have on offense right now. Darnal Mooney had like one catch four quarters into this. They were just poorly organized. But I want the Cardinals to win. That's all.

It's not only that though. Because you sometimes have it in for certain teams and coaches and you hate the Bears. you hate how boring they are and I get it I hate it for Bears fans you want that misery to just compound and snowball until everyone's fired

and the team starts over so I think it to me having sat next to you watching football for 10 years I'm guessing it's more burn the bears rather than yay Cardinals it's definitely like

in a special intensity today there was no biweek there was a bye week for the Browns maybe that was part of it that's true so you were just like enjoying his lock out of the way I appreciated it

you just fuck you Dalton He had the Fugazi Cowboys' Lock on Thursday so that was out of the way. There's no more Fugazi than Patriots over Titans

with like eight healthy players but anyways The Titans were the number one seed last week by the way. Yeah but that's like on a week to week matchup you have to say that that was as Fugasey as what I pulled off

but Andy Dalton to me if you're doing what the bears are stuck doing with him right now you're at the end of the road he's an end of the road scenario I mean this game isn't about Andy Dalton I know it's like a driving rainstorm and they outgain the, what a weird box score

that the Cardinals have 257 yards. It's a short drive. That they lose the turnover battle, four to nothing. The Bears have four turns. It's just a strange game, but that's a move it along. Nice job. All right, let's move along. Barring a defensive penalty is the last play of the game.

Carsily rushed by three, steps up. He's got to launch it. He does. He's got the arm to get it to the end zone. Three Raiders receivers there. It pops up in the air. It falls incomplete. Washington is on their fourth in a row.

They get out of Vegas. with a 17-15 win. Bungos. I would have given the bongos to the lions. This is a, you can make the choice here if you like to. Controversial decision behind the glass. But here we are anyway. Tyler.

Taylor. Hineke. Through two touchdown passes, set up new kicker Brian Johnson with the game-winning 48-yard. field goal 37 seconds to play and they did get that stop right at the end on defense desperation he from Derek Carr no bueno 1715 Washington over Raiders Gregory we watched that last kick live together

I thought there was no way and maybe this is just my Jets fandom and their horrible kicker situation coloring the situation I thought there was no way an unknown kicker would step up in that spot but the football team has some juice right now Dave they just have

this feeling to them that, yeah, they're going to win this game at the end, that things are going to break their way, that Taylor Heineke, who throws an interception in the fourth quarter on the Washington second to last drive to set up Las Vegas to go take the lead, and then throws what would have and should have been a pick six, that Travis Morrig, the Raider's safety on their last drive, just forcing passes that he shouldn't. And that's why I've kind of stayed off this Heineke bandwagon. He's fun to watch great backup like he does it all. But it's just like these loose plays have been there

throughout the course of the season. You figure they're going to come back to bite him. It goes right through Morig's hands and then Heineke, to his credit, makes a couple good plays to set up that field goal and they get it and they get the win. But these games, it's

just like these late afternoon games, they were all afoot. That Carlos Dunlap tips that Jimmy G pass. He has the open receiver. The 49ers could have tied it there. You know, we talked about... That amazing play by Lamar Jackson on the incompletion.

I'm not saying that. I wanted to watch this with you. It was a good play by T.J. Watt, but yes, two or three inches closer, and they make the play there. And then Derek Carr, who I think played a very Derek Carr game, very solid, didn't make mistakes, move the ball well,

had two throws that he absolutely wants to take back. He had an open two-point conversion that he just sailed in the fourth quarter. And then he had Zay Jones streaking wide open. for a touchdown in the fourth quarter. They ended up settling for the field goal to go up 15, 14, and he missed both of those throws. If you're the Raiders, you want to be different

than the past Raiders team? Make those throws. They were there too. They were open receivers. Somebody's got to make a play and it can change your season. And instead of being, you know, in position entering Sunday night football

to be in first place, you're again back to 6 and 6 and 6 and again facing all the same questions specifically now about your offense. the ability to score in its present state. Yeah, I think the Cowboys game stands out as a holiday aberration because the Raiders prior lost to the Giants, Chiefs, and Bengals and did not top 16 points in any of those games.

Their schedule as much as any of these muddled, bizarre, middling teams vying for playoff spots is rough. They've got the Chiefs, the Browns, the Broncos, the Colts, and the Chargers to close the season. And no Darren Waller today was a killer. I wasn't too surprised that they didn't move the football that well. I was surprised by the Washington football team's social media account after the game. I don't know if you saw this, Dan, but they have a picture, photoshopped of Terry McLaurin spray painting.

Welcome to Ass Vegas. No, no, no, no, no. It's L-O-S-S-L-S-L-O-S-L-O-S-W. Oh, I thought that was a egg. Had they done what you said, Greg? It would have been way better. Las Vegas. That would have been pretty good.

That would have been a good burn. I thought it was. I was like, wow, they're really taking this trash talk. By the way. Either way. Either way. That's stupid. That's a bad Photoshop and it's tacky as hell.

And Washington should sit out a whole bunch of plays. That stuff comes back to bite you. As Vegas would have really come back to bite you. I was surprised that it wasn't a bigger story too. Like is there some type of amazing, I think maybe they played in a Super Bowl, but like an amazing Washington Raiders rivalry where you have to be doing, you know, Tomahawk dunks on Twitter.

They play once every four years. They're failing themselves, you know. All right. Well, good for Washington. They are kind of a fun team. I just, I think He's a fun guy to watch. So they're in the mix. Absolutely. Antonio Gibson, too, made the play of the game,

one of the plays of the game with a third and one early where he should have been stopped for about a seven-yard loss, gets the first down, ends up setting up their first touchdown, was right on the goal line. Like, he's been awesome. All right, let's take a break. And then we finish out. We got two more games.

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Jonathan Taylor with this second rushing. score in the ball game, and the Colts have broken an open, 20 to nothing. Jonathan Taylor was back on his game. The MVP candidate ran for 143 and two touchdowns in the Colts roll to an easy. 31 zip win over the hapless Texans. That was Matt Taylor, Matt Taylor, by the way, WFNI. Texans turned the ball over twice in the first quarter. Tyrod Taylor got benched, a weird year he's had, and the Texans mark

are two and ten. Yeah, I don't think we need to unfurl like a verbal Russian novel on this game. It went according to plan for the cults who regularly hammer terrible teams like this. They got off to a little bit of a slow start on offense,

but their defense had the two takeaways that led to a touchdown early on on a missed field goal. But then it's like you're waiting for Houston, as we have been all season, to awaken on any level. They had 48 yards at half, three first down, five of six drives went for less than eight yards.

It was a disastrous showing by up there with Jacksonville, the least watchable attack around with very little hope. I don't know what you just need, you cannot, the offseason cannot come quickly enough for them. The Colts, they just took care of business. To me, they showed their defense right now, which leads the league and takeaways, points off turnovers and force fumbles,

put it to the Texans early, and there was just no coming out. David Culley finally to me looks like someone who's sort of being kept there against his will on the sideline. Yeah, we don't need a 17th game for some of these teams.

Like, it feels so late for the Texans. They dropped back to pass 31 times today and they ended up with 57 yards. That's next level. It's not pro football. It just was hard to watch. If I became a head coach, there's two things I would immediately try to do,

game management voice. Here it is. You're bearing it so late in the show. Don't give Jonathan Taylor. or guys like him 32 carries in a game like this. This stuff happens all the time. The other thing, the other thing,

and I really think this is going to take over someday. There's so many teams that snap the ball with like 15 seconds left when they're up two or three scores, like throughout the whole second half of the game, like, with 12 minutes left. Like start already milking the clock much earlier. It adds up. I like that a lot.

It adds up so fast. And even like the Patriots do it, they'll snap it with like 20 seconds, up 17 points with 12 minutes. Just, you know, come. I think, yeah. Those are my two things. We talk about what the running clock would work in a game like this.

Just let's get out of here. It's about healthy and safety. There was a couple weeks ago, I think a Bill's game where they were blown out an opponent. And like, Josh Allen's dropping back and throwing crossing patterns to Stefan Diggs when they're up 30 points. I'm like, what are we doing here? I mean, if anything, they put Davis Mills in, if anything, I mean, Taylor was a little banged up that he could have played. But you're right. I mean, I would just melt away the final 10 minutes of games like this into oblivion.

There was a stretch in the first part of the game just watching like the possessions where they just kept the Colts kept punting it from the 50 to the 10 and then the Texans kept punty from the 10 back to the 50 just back and forth, 3 and out to 10 to 50. It was like this is the last game I want to watch.

Let me just really quickly read Houston's drive chart before we kill them for the week. Interception, fumble, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, downs, check you later. The cult simply massacre. The leagues have not.

And by the way, the Texans, who again, when the season ends on January 9th, they will memory hole this season. It will have never existed. You won't even be able to find it in the media guide. They are the first team to be eliminated from playoff contention. Oh, wow. It's December 5th. The Colts would be the sixth seed in the NFC, but they're still stuck at 10 at 7 and 6 in the AFC. The AFC is sneaky.

Even though it's not great, it's sneaky deep. There's a lot of teams with winning records, whereas in the NFC, there's only five teams with winning records. There's a lot of good, bad teams or bad teams. good teams in the AFC. Like, there's a whole mess of those guys. Bad good is, I maybe would go good, bad. Like, I'll use your team, the Browns on a buy.

Are they a good bad team or a bad good team? Just flat out, very annoying to the census. I think they're a bad good team. The Steelers are a good bad team. What is the difference between these teams? Oh, there's a difference. Yeah, there is. The Steelers to me are a good bad team. They're maxing out what they can do. The, the Browns are a bad good team.

Right, because we assume they were good and they're intrinsically too bad to be good. No, because I don't think they're intrinsically bad. I think they're intrinsically good, but they're really bad. They're on the lower end of what goodness is. I mean, I should understand the meaning of the Steelers are at the higher end, the highest end of what a bad team can be. I mean, they all sort of suck. That's how I feel about the taxi.

That's for sure. Outside of the Patriots. All right, Sunday night football. Oh, Sunday night. and they keep the drive alive Bridgewater under pressure as he throws it's intercepted by Daniel Sorensen

and Bridgewater can't knock him down and Sorensen's going to go all the way where he touchdown Al Michaels with the call here's the good news Greg Teddy really went for the tackle so that's a positive

but that was the only positive of that play for the Denver Broncos a game deciding pick six by Daniel Sorensen that allowed the Chiefs to ease to a 22 to 9 win at Arrowhead a game that saw us once again Gregi the Chief's offense unable to really get anything going

they finished with 267 yards of offense so they were easily outgained and yet their defense once again picked up the slack for the offense what kind of world At a certain point, you have to just say this is what the Chiefs are right now and that it's working. I mean, it was almost

identical to the Cowboys game that they won 19 to 9. It's very similar to that Packers game. They won over Jordan Love when it was 13 to 7. Think about the biggest plays in this game. That was the biggest one. The Teddy pick six off the tip pass. There was the Teddy interception

that was just a bad decision in the second half. There was the fourth down stop on the 20 yard, the 20-play drive, and then there was the special team's recovery of the fumble that they had. None of those plays were offensive plays. They're like the Vikings where they go and get an opening drive touchdown every week, and then they don't really do much the rest of the game, and that's fine. At least it's fine right now. Well, I mean, their defense is legit. They've allowed under 20 points per game since October 10th, essentially. They have transformed on that side of the

well, after a big narrative being how, you know, self-destructive they were. I mean, and their offense. It wasn't even narrative. They were, like, statistically the worst defense through five weeks in, like, history. We talked about it. I just mean, it's crazy that that kind of turn around. Right. I mean, I just, I mean, I don't know.

I, this game frustrates me from a, from a Broncos angle. Maybe we want to get into another way. Well, no, it frustrates me from a, before we turn to the Broncos, a chief's angle. I mean, I guess I'm still not ready to live in a world where we've now processed that the Chiefs right now win because of their defense. I still don't understand how we got to this place. I see Patrick Holmes and Andy Reed and Tyree Kiel and Travis Kelsey, and I see the Chiefs with two timeouts and a minute plus to play in the first half,

running the clock out. I see the Chiefs getting a turnover on a punt and going nine yards on fourth and one, kicking the field goal to go up 16-3 instead of the dagger shot. it's just to me, it's working now and who's going to complain about a team that's won five in a row and seems poised to win that division. But I am too

because I still think in our league your defense can look really good for a stretch but you'll be exposed by a big time offense in a big spot and if the chiefs do not get this figured out they will get dinged and knocked out of the playoffs earlier than people think.

Now the other side of the ball, the Broncos Greg, we talked about it setting it up how this was kind of Teddy's chance if you wanted to look at it that way. It's kind of how I posited it last week. But Denver's chance to really make a statement say, we are for real. We're going to be hanging around in this race. We have a chance to win this division.

And it kind of feels like they were exposed as a pretender here. They were never there offensively. Like the plays they tried to make down the field to Cortland Sutton has killed them the last handful of weeks, six targets for 15 yards. You know, it's bad weather. It's like neither passing game got going, but they're not good enough to like survive a night like that

where you turn the ball over three times. I mean, Fongio's defense has held Kansas City to 22 points per game in their five matchups since he's been there. They're scoring about 10 points per game in those. They've lost 12 straight to the Chiefs. I just, I feel like, in 2021, when you go into seasons like this, and it's not, it's not Teddy Slander or anything else more than just, they are built to win with defense and a quarterback who can get them there

when he doesn't make mistakes, sometimes, even when he doesn't. And today, when you get the killer mistakes from Teddy Bridgewater, you don't stand a chance to survive. You're a six or seven win team when he's not playing well. Yeah, their defense, part of the, you know, they almost artificial keep points down because they give up these long drives that aren't particularly a good sign of your defense. You know what I mean? That's why they struggle so much with the analytics, even though they're giving up not that many points. Tonight they played well, and for the most part, the last four or five weeks they played well. That's why they had won three out of four. But they feel like they've overachieved to even get to six and six. They won't go away because all these AFC teams seem like

they'll never go away and they'll probably keep winning every other game. There's really no reason And not, but of all of the teams, them and the Steelers, feel like the biggest pretenders. You know what they are? They're a good, bad team. Exactly. Yeah. Now I'm starting to understand the definition. It is crazy, though, that the Chiefs two leading receivers were the running backs.

I mean, we're getting. Well, it seems like Darrell Williams bails Mahomes out of certain situations. So you had that, they had 22 points, so you had a pick six. Mahomes had 184 and an interception. I mean, it's like, what? Right. You had a pick six, so we're down to 15 points produced by the offense. You had a, again, the muff punt that led to the field goal where you went nine yards.

So that's really three more points. So the defense special teams gave you 10 points. The chief scoring 12 points on offense in this game, it's just, it's the Twilight Zone, man. Well, you also at one point, when they get to fourth and two from the Denver 8, it's 13 to 3, and they line up to kick the field goal. And we're watching this in the large theater area next to the studio here. And Dan's going, kill shot, kill shot, just go forward and fourth down. and keep going and kill the Denver Broncos.

And they don't do it. I mentioned this a little bit. Oh, you did? A few minutes ago. I'm exhausted. It's okay. Was I not, that's one of the rare times that I was ultra checked out while you were speaking. I normally am very engaged with what you're saying.

I apologize to you. I should be offended, but I'm not. I do the same thing to you sometimes. You know, we've done a lot of shows over the years, Mark. It's deep into the night, you know. It's been a long day. This game was not exciting to anyone. Even, like, Chiefs fans, if the Patriots were winning this way, you'd be like, oh, wow, this team's resourceful.

But even Chiefs fans, I don't think are enjoying this. Broncos fans are annoyed that this game got flexed into Sunday night so that, like, the whole country had to watch it. I'm annoyed that I had to deal with this. Why don't we just end the show? This hurt me more than, like, I don't know, at this point, Teddy struggling hurts me more than the Patriots losing. You've invested a lot of your emotional being into Teddy's ups and downs in tonight. It was the downs. It was a down.

Before we go, there were a lot of injury news right before we left. So just throw that out there. Marlon Humphrey is out for the season. Big loss for Baltimore. That is massive. Adam Thielen has a high ankle sprain. That ain't going away anytime soon. Ouchy.

That's pretty serious. The Vikings are going away soon. They'll be so sure. I'm just saying, I'm saying. Have we learned anything, Mark? Between now and some January hour, they're going to be going away. Kenyon Drake is out for the season, for the Raiders. Logan Thomas, you mentioned, has a torn ACL.

That was unfortunate. He came back. Kind of a cheap hit on a low hit on him. I think it was a block. Yeah, he tore his ACL. He made a couple of plays and yeah. Bummer. All right.

So that's the injury situation. We'll be back on Tuesday. Big holiday party Tuesday night. So, you know, before that happens, it's going to be like this buzz in the air, I would think. Yeah, Erica and all the 20-somethings. Erica, your last holiday party as a 20-somethings. No.

I know. Got to make it count. Got to make it count. Really got to make it count. Justin, you are in charge of Erica. Remember the night before Thanksgiving? You were basically her bodyguard, making sure she didn't get arrested or anything. Justin's going to have to be that for you again.

I don't know if, I mean, Justin is a very capable individual. That is a large task. Right. Plus, you work for Erica. That's not really like, it should be the other way around. As a boss, that's your boss move. It should be in his best interest. Nobody wants a sober Ricky Hollywood at a holiday party in a suit role.

It's a fair point. We want a rabble rousing causing trouble. Yeah. The night before Thanksgiving, Ricky, a very attractive blonde woman walks by. Uh-oh. She grabs the blonde woman and tells her to take a photo with me and tag me and be like, oh, this is Dan Hansis. Don't you know who this is? And she thought it was the funniest thing.

It was very funny, I think. And I was like, that's a good bit, Ricky. Did the woman know who you are? Of course not. Like, you know. Los Angeles. I would presume that she would. Very good looking.

And Dan, Dan was a humana, humana, humana. And I was like, take a picture. This is, I'm a married man. I'm out of the game. Well, not like that. You were just, you weren't coming off as like, oh, yeah, I'm a Mr. Daddy Big, you know, BDE. Daddy Big. Hi, I'm Mr. Daddy Big.

And I was like, don't you know who that is? That's Dan Hans is. I know. So, Justin, you will have to keep her under control. So which is it? You want me to be out of control? I want you to be out of control, and I want Grave Digger to be on control business.

Right. Grave Diggers. Some semblance of non-anarchy from you. All right. Good stuff. All right. We'll be back on. There's one more game, by the way, of course.

Week 13, Buffalo, New England. The weather conditions are supposed to be crazy. Is that still a thing? That's interesting. It's going to be a big game in the AFC, and we'll have a recap of that on Tuesday, and all that other fun stuff. Thank you to everybody for listening.

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