NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2021 Week 2 Recap - The Afternoon Saved Football

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap every single game that happened on Week 2 starting with the Cowboys winning over the Chargers and the Titans big comeback against the Seahawks. Vikings fans will remember this missed kick and Jimmy G lead the niners to a win over the Eagles. Nick Shook joins to talk Tom Brady beating Atlanta and the Rams. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's your problem, buddy? Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I come to you from a, I mean a building. filled with some heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. We've got things up in running, boys, in the new studio on Thursday, but tech glitches. So I'm from a conference room in one area of the building, Greg's in another, and Mark is in what he deemed a French phone booth, and it's not going too well over on the east side of the building, is it, Mark?

No, it's very French. I mean, you know, if I were just to come in here and chat with a friend, I mean, it's plush red seats, but an entire windowed wall on this side of me to my left. And it appears, it's, you know, a very talented group of producer, IT types, shooting suction darts at me and laughing at me while I do the show. Daniels here. Wait, like literal darts? Well, suction darts that stick to glass.

I don't know how else to describe it. But, you know, I thought it was like figurative eye darts or something. No, but of course, you know, let's send the guy who was in a hospital three weeks ago up a flight of stairs with 40 pounds of a quarter. to find, you know, some other place to set up. I see how this works. So as you could see, we are challenged right now. We thought we were, you know, was going to be smooth sailing from here.

But that's not the way things work when you move into a new building. But that doesn't matter to you, the listener. What you care about is week two of the NFL season. And this is the flagship show. And we're going to go through every game that was played, even the early games. And I, you know, I would file a petition, not just because. Zach Wilson through four interceptions today, but mostly because of that, to not cover the early games and instead only focus on like three games in the late window.

But I guess, Greg, we should be thankful for those three games in the late window because it gave us some excitement in our first day in the newsroom, the new newsroom. No, the late games were great for the most part. But yes, you were proclaiming throughout much of the morning football is dead, that you didn't think football could recover. from the early games that they were too boring, and that was it. We were all just going to have to pack up and go.

It wasn't just that they were boring either. And again, the Zach Wilson meltdown at the Meadowlands definitely colors my viewpoint. Right. If he had four touchdowns, no interceptions, and every other game is in the exact same. We're not having this conversation. We're not having this conversation.

But every game was pretty wretched for the most part in the early window. But yes, we have good games to get to. It will be a little front-loaded, and we will close the show with Sunday night football. hopefully that is a contest worth bantering on about. But let's get into it. Let's roll. Let's start with some of these fun late games

featuring all kinds of walk-off goodness from kickers and not-so goodness. Let's start. Listen, Vikings fans, we're not going to start with you. So just deep breath, deep breath. You will get through this. Let's start right across the street from us, right across the sidewalk from us, Dallas Chargers.

You know what though, Brad? It's all going to be a moot point and all going to be forgotten after Greg Zerline hits this 56 yard. 56 for the win. Right hash. Snap, hold kick. Kick on the way.

Kick is good and the Cowboys win. We knew it all along. That was Babe Laufenberg, trying to speak into existence a moment for the Cowboys that would eclipse the Hurrah. Grandous game management by the Cowboys Head Coach Mike McCarthy and Brad Shem the Sham God with the call for KRLD. Greg Zerline connected on a 56-yard field goal as time expired to give the Dallas Cowboys a 2017 win over the Los Angeles charges.

Yes, across the sidewalk from us here at SoFi Stadium, Greg the leg, saved the bacon of a lot of people. Most of all, Mike McCarthy, who basically wasted away the last minute of game time. and set up his kicker for disaster, and more on that later. But Greg, this was a huge win for the Cowboys after last week's near Miss versus the champs. It was, and it was a great game. It had everything that you would want a Cowboys Chargers game to have, except for, like, points. Like, I can't believe how bad the defenses were in this game,

and yet the final score was 20 to 17. There wasn't a punt until midway through the third quarter, and that might have been the only punt of the game. It was. And yet, because both sides, kept shooting themselves in the foot, especially the Chargers with penalty. That's the end we got. You couldn't believe how well Justin Herbert played in this game when you look at the final score.

I'm not surprised to see the Cowboys only have 20 points in this game because it felt like every Chargers' defensive possession was just hoping for a prayer. But in the end, two touchdowns taken off the board by Chargers penalties down the stretch. feels like a difference maker. Like Jared Cook will help your team, and you're like, wow, that's a good pickup, Jared Cook, until he gives you the one Jared Cook play that he just seems to always have. And in this case, it was a holding call on a long touchdown by Justin Herbert. And then later in the fourth quarter, I went to go to the bathroom after the Chargers

took a four-point lead, not realizing it's the Chargers. And there was actually an illegal formation. The touchdown didn't count. There was a crazy call. there was just like a little bit of everything and yet I think we got the ending that we deserved which is just like one team getting a little luckier than the other I mean Greg I got to ask you because I think we all saw at the same time Justin Herbert unfurl an incredible pass to keen and Allen that sailed over the head of a you know falling down backwards cowboys cornerback but he also

threw two interceptions in this game one that came from the Dallas nine what I thought you were going to ask him he left the door open he said he went to the bathroom here at this new facility. The toilets are heated. There's, there's badeys involved. I want to know more about Greg's trip to the bathroom. I mean, it's just, let's start. Let's start there. I'm chugging water all day long. There was nothing too complicated about it. I come back and it's like second and goal. I'm totally confused. And then they call this crazy in the graphs quarterback play. But yeah, Herbert had two interceptions. The second one, Keenan Allen fell on. It happens. The first one was a bad throw but that that one throw you you mentioned to alan where he kind of puts it in the turkey

hole or whatever john gruden used to like to say was beautiful and yet it came a few plays after one of the best throws i've ever seen which was a 45 yard on a rope with no like arc to it whatsoever throw that again was overturned by penalty so like that just felt like that was the story of this game it was it was incredibly entertaining though like it was everything i wanted out of a week two game between the Tigers and Cowboys. I would ask Greg, you know, multiple questions about the, you know, his trip to the toilet. But, I mean, we know how these Sundays work. We don't have time to sit down on heated toilet seats.

No, that is not the world here on Sundays. It's an active time. You know, as the second half was unfolding, and I was thinking about the two teams involved, the Cowboys who are involved with so many games like this that go down to the wire. And it feels like more often than not in recent years, it goes against. the Cowboys, and then you have the Chargers on the other side, which they're famous for their fiascos through the years late in games that I was thinking, how does someone win this game and how does someone blow it to lose it? And what happened was the Cowboys actually

did both, which was really commendable. And again, let's set the table here with the situation, Greg. It was, I think there was, let's see, I'm going to go to, I want to check out the, I want to get this right. So this sets up. Start the game-winning field goal drive. They had three minutes and 54 seconds left. And that was to set up the 56-yarder. There you go. I mean, and here is, and the question now became when they had the one timeout left

and they have a running play and the clock's running after Tony Pollard goes three yards to the Chargers 38, 30 seconds left, clock's ticking, ticking, ticking, ticking, and finally the Cowboys call out a call timeout with four seconds remaining. seemingly settling for a nearly impossible make in that situation. They get bailed out after the game, Mike McCarthy explained why he had such an issue. But the clock I was watching went off the board, and then, you know, Clark Kellan had, I think he said, a camera, he got blocked by camera guy. So the communication was great from up top, and, you know,

and obviously you want to call that time out between three, you know, three and four seconds. This is one of those, like, explanations from someone higher up. like a restaurant manager that you just know isn't remotely giving you the straight answer like okay let's say you couldn't see the clock or or and everyone is taking this is like okay well that makes more sense than them just being total idiots well then like then how did you take the time out with four seconds left at some point you just totally blanked and panicked and if you can't see the clock you you have to find some other way to do it it was it was the most cowboys like thing possible because they had a ton of time and they could have gone right down the

field. The Chargers defense did not offer much resistance. I was very impressed with the Cowboys offensive line. They protected Doc Prescott well. They ran the ball really well. I think the Cowboys actually could have run the ball more in a lot of key situations and they let the Chargers off the hook.

It felt like a miracle any time that the Chargers got to stop. But that was pretty much true on both sides of the ball in this game. Are we at a point, though, where you look at Zeke Elliott and Tony Pollard, 16 touches for Zeke, 13 on the ground for Pollard. Are we in a full-on time share here?

I think it's a good situation. Yeah. I mean, they ran for 198 yards and they split snaps. So to me, that's like a good problem to have. I don't think Zieg's looked that bad this year. I know fantasy heads are all, like, worked up about it, but he's still a good back. Pollard's just more explosive, and he definitely was today.

As Greg said, and this is just the chargers in a nutshell, and it just, you change the players, you change the change of coaches, and we keep getting these outcomes, flag 12 times for 99 yards, two touchdowns taken off the board. They're now 8 and 17 in one score games since the start of the 2019 season. So Mike McCarthy gets bailed out by his kicker and Greg the leg goes from goat to hero week to week. That is the NFL.

And speaking of big kicks from big men, let's head to Seattle. Set, kick. Go ahead. Yes. How about these Titans? Yes. Yes. Yes.

The impossible situation, possible. Mike Keith, Titans Radio with the call. Break up the Grave-Digger. Derek Henry goes off for 182 and two fourth quarter touchdowns. You never. The Big Dog. And Randy Bullock, big-boned Randy, hit a 36-yard field goal midway through O.T. The Titans.

Not the Titans. You thought they were dead. So did I. If you followed my Twitter feed, rally from a 15-point deficit. Stunning the Seahawks. And they're building Lumen Field. Nightmare. 33 to 30.

And, man. Wait, what's the nightmare? The name of the field? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Okay, just clarify. You could also, another nightmare, Greg locked up the Chargers. Another night. Oh, yeah.

That was a nightmare. I keep going. Greg starts the season, oh, and two. That's inauspicious. Also, locking up the wrong team. How about the Wessling brothers? Locking up the Seahawks. Ooh.

That's a bad beat. That's a tough one because Tennessee, they looked done. in this game. They could not get anything going. They were down 24-9 in the second half when Freddie Swain caught a rainbow from Russell Wilson and took it in. It made it 30 to 14. And you think, oh, let's go home. Well, 34, in your building becomes 33-30 loss. Just a crushing defeat for the Seahawks and a enthralling, potentially season-changing winning win for the Titans this early. And this from John Glennon, who cited CBS. So really from CBS. The Seahawks were 52 and 0 when leading by at least at least 15 points at home, now 52 and 1. So, you know,

you credit, it's a team effort because the Titans got a lot of big stops on defense in the second half when it looked like the Seahawks were just going to run away and hide in this game. And they kind of did. But the defense made enough stops to let Tennessee get back in the game. They got back in the game because Derek Henry turned back into a total monster. He had a first touchdown run where the play was to the right. There was nothing there, a stretch right play. He stopped in his tracks, reversed back field, and then beat everybody to the corner on the other side. And then the other one was those type of runs that we saw all last year, a 60-yard touchdown, where a man that large,

I believe he's 7 foot 7, 380,000 pounds, gets to the outside, and then just outruns cornerbacks, safeties, linebackers to the house. Those big time plays. And when Mike Brable doesn't go for two, when they tie it with under a minute to play, a lot of people are thinking, oh, come on, Brable, show some stones, but it was the right move because they still got it done in overtime. What a win for the Titans. Grave digger.

I feel a little job, though. We should have had a walk-off safety. I don't know when the last walk-off safety was. Did Cameron Wake have one against the Bengals a long time ago? Yes, on Thursday night football. That could have been it, and it was a walk-off safety. We all saw it. Russell Wilson took a sack and threw the ball away in the end zone,

and they marked the ball at that half-yard line. But I know I didn't, this was your game, Dan, and I know it feels like the Titans, like, stole one, and it's a bad beat. But ultimately, they had 33 first downs in this game in 532 yards. And I know a lot of those yards came late, but I don't know if that's stealing. That's beating up on the other team's defense after a while. And Leo Jones also, Julio Jones had a touchdown that got overturned.

That was very suspect. It was back of the end. It looked like he got two feet down. I don't know what the whole thing going on there was. But they kind of got jobbed out of four points there as well. The offense definitely got back on track. And I know that's important if you're the Grave Digger and Titans fans because with Todd Downing there, instead of Arthur Smith, you're starting to chew on your fingernails early in the second quarter. But they showed that they could put up that 30 spot in a big spot.

I mean, there's some unlovable whispers about the Todd Downing experience as well. But, I mean, you look at Julio Jones after last week, 128 yards off six catches. That helps heal the narrative. What you mentioned about Derek Henry, they had the ball for 42 plus minutes. I mean, had they, no matter how, had they lost this game in any way, I mean, they're 0 and 2, the place is going nuts in Tennessee. I mean, for what a team that people thought could be an AFC title game, you know, entry. So getting back to one in one, I don't know if it changes my feelings about the Seahawks a whole lot, other than the fact that Tyler Lockett is a top five receiver. I mean, he had 178 yards today.

So like every time I looked up, he was racing down the field, catching some sort of rope from Russell Wilson. Pete Carroll's got to find his defense. I mean, it's been five years now. So if Russell Wilson got the offensive coordinator he wanted, but he does not right now have a defense to help support him. And again, just underlining what a surprising turn of events it was in the second half. The Titans, their offensive line was completely scrambled in this game. Teller Luan, who of course sent the gotten his feelings on social media after Chandler Jones embarrassed them in week one.

he's warming up in the end zone before kickoff and does something to his knee and aggravates that knee that he had repaired, the ACL knee. So he misses the game. Roger Saffold, their left guard, he goes down with a shoulder injury, comes back, then leaves again in the second half. So the fact that the offensive line was in complete tatters to be able to get protection for Tannahill in the second half and to open up lanes for Derek Henry just enough,

Henry could do so much with so little. Really a credit to the Titans. And Ryan Tannhill, I haven't brought him up. He was good in this game, but the best when it counted, he was seven for seven on that final drive and regulation when they got it from 30, 23 to a tie game. Six of those seven passes went to running backs. But they moved the ball with efficiency, big win,

and the Seattle Seahawks, Maroon. That's a bad one. That's a bad beat. Resilient Titans. Now some bad kicking, like a horror story. Let's get to it. From 37 yards away, I win it for the Vikings. Snap, spot.

The kick is up, and the kick is no good. He missed it wide to the rides. He missed it. And the Cardinals win at 34, 33. A missed extra point. And now a missed field goal at the gun. And Arizona is 2-0. oh my goodness hey rickie i'm going to ask you this in real time to dig it up i do want to hear the viking's call

yeah sometimes we want to hear that like joseph come on it is god no he's no good are you kidding me no he missed it right oh oh my this he missed her right what a gut heart Oh, no. I hate to call someone out one of our favorites, but ultimately, like, that's on you, too, to call that wrong. That's the equivalent of missing the kick. He just wanted it so bad to be good that he was willing to. That's Paul Allen missing a 37-37-yarder. Sorry.

Paul Allen goes wide right, too. Give me that music back, Ricky. From the team that brought you, Gary Anderson. Blair Walsh and Dan Bailey the Minnesota Vikings present their latest masterpiece Greg Joseph

Dream Slayer Lesson if I'm miserable I'm taking somebody Vikings come along for a ride Joseph missed a 37-yarder as you heard wide right a dagger through the heart of the Vikings and their fan base

3433 they lose to the Cardinals mark Kyler Murray threw for 400 yards and three touchdowns in this game and Arizona's 2-0 and there's a lot to be excited about there if you're a Cardinals fan but all I could think about is the Vikings doing it again. Unbelievable. Absolutely.

And it was Mike Zimmer who said after the game, we're probably two plays away from being 2-0. And we keep mentioning this, but the look on his visage, his face, every time these things seem to keep happening to them, it tells it all. And, you know, the one thing is, it's impossible not to watch the Cardinals and go off about Kyla Merley, left and right, and we can talk about that.

But the Vikings' offense, they really set themselves up to win this game for much of it. I mean, Dalvin Cook was doing everything that Derek Henry could not do to the Cardinals last year on the ground. He was sensational, and he played through pain. He had an ankle injury. He was on the ground a number of times. And for all the flack that Kirk Cousins takes, I mean, he was sensational. sensational out of the gate, eight for nine, 122 yards, three touchdowns had a pivotal 29-yard run. No, they could not be stopped.

I mean, this was the game of the day. And what started to creep up a little bit because Kyler Murray made, I would suggest you go watch what he did on one play. There is something about Kyler Murray, and it has, to me, it's almost like Patrick Mahomes, where you can tweet the play, you can try to verbalize it, you can try to write about it, you can try to, you know, stamp it on someone's back as a tattoo if you want. but nothing is going to work to describe how fascinating he is to watch. He had one play where he escaped coverage, extends it as he always does.

He's circling around and finds Ron Dale Moore in a 77-yard strike. And at that point, I thought the Cardinals are the most interesting team in the NFC. They're also possibly way better than we thought, totally explosive. You know, everything that I thought about them in the off-season was becoming untrue before my eyes. And Kyla Murray, like Justin Herbert, he's a young quarterback. He threw a costly pick six. He threw another interception in this game. And it allowed Minnesota hang around when Arizona could have completely taken off.

But Minnesota's defense played really well at times, too. Daniel Hunter had three sacks. So it was one of these games where, you know, back in the old days when we used to write these things up, I would have had a heart attack attempting to narrate everything that happened down the stretch because it was a back and forth affair. And, I mean, you know, Dan, you say you need to take someone. with you because you had a bad day. I feel like you are being a little aggressive to take the Vikings fans of all fan bases with you.

I mean, they've seen enough, they've seen horrors for decades, and today is just another chapter in one of the more ugly books to read. Hey, listen, Sessler, just because you're no longer amidst the wreckage, doesn't mean you could decide who the miserable get to take with us down into hell. I absolutely. I absolutely can have an opinion on it, though. And I find your actions to be a little bit questionable. Listen, the Cardinals, the Cardinals, they, you know, they had 474 total yards.

We'll start here. But the Vikings to have a three touchdown day from Kirk Cousins without a turnover to get 177 yards on the ground, including Dalvin Cook, 131, averaging six yards a carry, to intercept Kyle Murray twice, including, yes, a pick six. and still lose that game, it just can't happen. It's just, and it all comes back. And you hate to just put it, Greg, at the feet of the kicker. But when a team works that hard in a tough situation on the road to get to that point and the kicker misses a 37-yarder, that is the type of loss that can really kill a team season. It's that type of loss.

Absolutely. But I think Zimmer is going to be kicking himself. that his defense is struggling in both of these weeks. I think the defense ultimately lost the game against the Bengals. The offensive line wasn't great. And you give up this many points. I know you made some plays on defense in this game, but you give up this many points.

You let Kyler Murray stay back there that long. He had two touchdowns where he held the ball five seconds or more. That's almost impossible. They said in his entire career before today, he had three touchdowns where he held the ball that long. So I know it's Kyler Murray. It's a unique player to have to go after. but like if mike zimmer has a mediocre to bad defense again this viking's team isn't going

anywhere because cousins has played great through two weeks i think one of the underrated stories last week i thought cousins played awesome uh the offensive line was terrible everyone else was terrible but he played great and he played great again and they're o one too but along with the two picks Xavier woods Xavier roads also popped the ball out of rondale moore's hands at the goal line at one point i mean yes you're going to give up yardage to kailer you're going to give up amazing plays but they generated turnovers and you know last week penalties dog the Vikings and they didn't have a penalty in the game you know deep into it i mean it was a different Vikings team from a week ago and i mean it does come down to these the fates i mean

these wacky little things that happened because the same kicker made a 52 yard earlier in the game so it's just you know this isn't a an autumn wind blowing through the stadium i mean it's it's a completely serene place to kick and the vikings have in week three the seahawks coming off their own stomach punch loss so that that's no gimmy and then they got the browns so the browns are an a fc superpower mark so you know that's a tough one too can we slow it out or not we'll get to that but i mean they nearly were they nearly lost to the texans so i'm not these narratives you're up there in the penthouse now sessler you can't come down here and tell me how i should feel this is the most offensive place i've ever recorded a podcast from i can promise you from what i'm having to deal with

you know visually to the left and right of me while you guys are down in your quiet little secluded rooms have a nice time let's move on you know we have this brand new studio and it's just sitting in darkness right now talking about bad beats like someone in a clown suit like floating by me like you know with bells and whistles and cups of whipped cream i mean this is just you know it's too much to miami speaking of a clown now the snap college goes to motor singletary big hole up the middle finds room he's at the 30 25 20 15 10 5 touchdown buffalo a 46 yard touchdown run on the second play from Scrimmage.

Yeah. John Murphy with the call WGR. Devin Singletary started the scoring. The bills never looked back from there. This was too easy. Josh Allen threw two touchdown passes. Zach Moss had two touchdowns as well. Why not?

And the bills knocked out the offense quarterback to a tungobaila early with a rib injury on the way to him. He's 35 to zip win over the dolphins on the road. Tugboat locked this one up. Didn't think it was going to be the. this easy. I don't think anybody thought it was going to be this easy. And there it is. Got on the board. And if you're a Dolphins fan, you're really worried. Greg, you're worried that Tua, is this guy fragile? Can he stay healthy? It's a rib injury. He got carded with it. We'll see how he is. It sounds like it could be worse. Bruised ribs X-ride comeback negative. But then on top of it, you just can't protect.

Two got drilled twice for sacks on the first series. Second series, he gets smoked again and gets injured. Jake Brisket comes in. It wasn't any better for him. So you have protection issues and in general just being non-competitive in this spot. It kind of washes away anything positive from the win up in Foxborough last Sunday. Right. I mean, the games, they all count the same in the standing. So they're tied at one in one and the dolphins have a division win. But you have to look if you're a Dolphins fan at this Goliath that is the Bills. And you have to think in two of our last three games, they have embarrassed us. I think people forget, week 17, Dolphins still had a chance for the playoffs. The bills had absolutely nothing to play for in that game. Matt

Barclay wound up playing half the game. They put 56 points on them. They beat him by 30 when they had nothing to play for. That is some big time like, I'm the bully in the division. We have this matchup set. And whatever Brian Flores cooks up defensively against other quarterbacks, it doesn't work against Josh Allen. He's undefeated against this. Dolphins team in the Flores era and these last two have have to be two of if not the two worst losses but Alan wasn't even that good in this game I mean they right but it's like whatever they scored two quick touchdowns and then went pretty quiet on offense for a while there and I think it just got to a point where the offense for the dolphins was not doing

anything and eventually the defense caved after a while he was only so many three and outs and fruitless strides before the other side of the ball is affected by that of course it's in Miami. It's hot there. It's humid. And you leave a defense on the field long enough. They are going to eventually crack. So all the way around, domination for the bills. And I think on two fronts. So the dolphins, it washes away week one for the bills. I think it does the same thing. That was a very disappointing loss to the Steelers in week one. But now you're feeling a lot better about where they are, even if that big play of their element of their offense or at least the passing offense, Mark, still isn't quite there. you know, Stefan Diggs, who I see 60 yards a touchdown. I mean, he blew up against Miami twice last year. I'm very much with Greg, though, because, you know, you're going to measure yourself if you're Miami, number one, winning your own division and, you know, centering yourself against the other teams inside that division.

And Buffalo has, you know, knocked them around time after time. And they did a lot this offseason to surround Tua with new talent. But, you know, leading into this game, there are a lot of weird things going on with Will Fuller. We're not sure what's happening there. didn't play. And your offensive line seems to be a huge issue. They gave up six sacks. I mean, two is getting hit hard, punished. It doesn't matter what weapons are around you if that kind of chaos is being created. And, you know, Buffalo, I think their defense is better than it was last

year. But I think it was probably an aberration today. They're not going to do that every week. It says a lot more to me about Miami's line. They did it last week. That's two games now. If you add up the yardage that they've given up in those two games, like that's less than But that's also Pittsburgh's offense, which I don't trust. I'm just saying. Good defenses strangle bad offenses. And they've basically done that back-to-back weeks. I think that's very encouraging if you're a Bill's fan,

that they've allowed less than 500 yards combined through two games. I mean, they'll easily be the number one defense in terms of yards allowed after this week. And that's what you want to see, that you don't need to get 40, 50 points if you're the bills. And we'll find out what is going on with Tua from a health standpoint. but what we do know is now the Dolphins one-on-one get the Raiders on the road next week and we know, and we're going to talk about the Raiders in a little bit, are hardly a push-over

themselves right now. So total blowout. We'll see how both these teams come out of this game, but definitely a capital S statement, Gregi, by the bills. A little early for a statement game. Well, that was kind of. 35 Zip? More by the dolphins, please.

what statement did they make that it's not going to make anyone in florida happy yeah they authored a question a question mark all right let's move on nailed it the delay runs up the middle bounces off a hit carries out of another tackle across the 15 slips another hit driving inside the five and fighting his way to the one pushing his way to the end zone is he in touchdown patriots relentless Damian Harris Zolak hollering in the background Patriots Radio Network.

Yes, that was Damien Harris, the man who cost the Patriots a game against the Dolbbs in week one, breaking by my count eight tackles on his way to the end zone against the Jets, his 26-yard touchdown run, essentially the clincher in New England's

25-6 win over the Jets at the Meadowlands. And yes, Bill Belchek unleashed his rookie QB voodoo, forcing my boy. The boy that you'll lead us, well, nowhere today. Zach Wilson into four interceptions, no touchdowns, and the Jets are off to an 0-and-2 start for the 300th consecutive season. I saw, you know, at one point he had four interceptions and four completions.

Like, I guess compare this game. I'm curious, Dan, to the seeing ghost game in some of the early Darnold games. Right. A lot of people are drawing that comparison. And with Darnold in the Monday night seeing Ghost game, that was obviously a disaster. It was a different type of disaster, though, because with Darnold in that game, it was clear that Belchick had cooked up a game plan that had flummoxed the young quarterback at the time. He was confused. That's why he said, I'm seeing ghosts.

He was expecting something and getting another thing. And I'm sure there were moments in this game for Zach Wilson where the same thing happened. But this was a lot of the mistakes you saw from Wilson, especially. early, didn't seem like a confused quarterback. It seemed like a quarterback who hasn't quite learned yet what he can and cannot get away with at this level in the NFL. There were interceptions where you had someone flash open underneath and he would keep his eyes downfield and try to fit one downfield and getting burned by deflections and a ball

being a little too high and then ending up an interception because the Patriots are a opportunistic defense. And if you try to make those type of plays, if you're not completely on your game, you're going to get burned. So I thought it doesn't mean that I feel any better than I did after the ghost game for Darnold. But I saw a different type of issue for a jet quarterback. And the frustrating thing here is these two teams were basically even today. The only thing that wasn't even was the quarterback for the green team wasn't there and wasn't competitive in the game. And Zach Wilson is going to hopefully learn from this and grow from this and get better as opposed to regress and develop some type of issues off a bad game like this.

But I thought the Jets were much better in past protection. They actually ran the ball well. The defense, especially given all the picks, really did a nice job holding the Patriots down. Mack Jones didn't really have too many splash plays at all in this game. He used a lot of checkdowns. But ultimately, a good team like the Patriots, and I don't think the Patriots are great, but I think they are. good team are going to eventually take control of a game when the other quarterback is doing things like Zach Wilson was doing, and that's what New England did.

I mean, I see that the Jets had nine of 12 drives go for under 40 yards, so they just couldn't get anything going. I mean, I'm a little surprised mostly just because, you know, and I, you're learning a lot of new things, but this was meant to be a Shanahan offense, which is so quarterback friendly, and you're saying the protection was better. So last week, what I thought I saw from Zach Wilson was that he overcame punishment in early mistakes to shine, to show you why they drafted him. I mean, even within that ugly game itself from a team, just totally absent of that today?

Is he not seeing the field? It was just a bad day. It was, and when you watch, you'll see it, he was just trying to do too much. And as the mistakes piled up, and perhaps it's a credit to him because we know that he has all the armed talent in the world and he's a guy that's known for being able to extend plays and create splash plays, it got to the point by. you know, the second quarter of the third quarter where it felt like he was trying to come up with like 20 point plays to get the team back in the game. And I think there's coaching involved there too.

And you need, whether it's Robert Sala or Michael Fleur or just his teammates, there's got to be a way to say, hey, man, you got to calm it down here, you know, get things back under control. I even thought at a certain point, maybe it's a good idea to get him out of the game in the way that Brian Flores handled Tua last year because I don't think it was going anywhere positive. they were looking for something to take out of the end of the game. It just never happened. I mean, the Jets Out game Patriots by 7 yards, but isn't like the game you're kind of describing almost the description of Mack Jones versus Zach Wilson coming into the league? Like, yeah, Zach Wilson's got a much higher ceiling. Almost every team would have taken Zach Wilson ahead.

I'm sure they still would. And you're, you know, you're saying during this game and I can't disagree from what I've seen, like Mac Jones has a, like a mid-combed. career Alex Smith vibe to him already and maybe that's not going to be thrilling but but this was a day where like all he had to do is not turn the ball over and that like that ultimately out plays Zach Wilson and two weeks in with the Patriots to me it my feeling entering the season was I felt like they could be a nine or 10 win team a wild card type team and if this is who mac Jones is now I think they're in very good hands because they're going to play maybe not the most exciting brand of

football but it will be ball control he'll he will make a case. occasional plays. He had a couple really nice throws in this game. And then because of that defense, which I think is going to continue to evolve and grow and get better, I think they're going to win a lot of games. So I still see Buffalo is the favorite in this division, but I think there's a pecking order developing now after two weeks where it's Buffalo, the pats are frisky, the dolphins have big question marks now, and the Jets. It's going to be a very long season. And you just hope that this isn't going to snowball for Zach Wilson. But Obviously, the first Jets home game in, you know, two years, fans fill up that building.

And it's just hyper disappointing because you just want, you knew it was possible because that's what Belichick does. I talked about it on the Thursday preview show when the Patriots Twitter account put out that video of Belichick praising Zach Wilson's talent. You knew he was cooking up something evil. And I don't even know if he did, to be honest with you. It wasn't something where I thought that the Pats were brilliantly schemed up something. here i think wilson just had a really bad hey welcome to the nflb type game and i hope he shakes it off nick folk revenge game by the way became uh you know set the all-time patriots record for consecutive kicks move aside adam vintry move aside guskowski it's the nick folk revenge game

getting in the record how old is nick folk by the way i don't know he's they don't even try to attempt anything over 44 yards so that's part of the reason uh he has the streak but you got to you know he's a nice match for this patriot It's team, too. All right, let's move on. They need inches, inches to win the game. Jimmy, he's going to pat max butt and come forward and pick up a first down. The 49ers will win the game, and they will go to 2 and O.

Greg Popper with the call for KGO. Jimmy G. Hey, he's still in there. You've got the kid, Trey Lance, waiting for his turn, but the Niners keep winning. we'll see anyway so jimmy g gets the sneak to clinch it and for the second straight week the 49ers defense got to stop it needed late in the game uh in a 17 11 win over the equals gregg the niners have showed us through two weeks that i guess either side of the ball is capable of carrying the day and that's a good trait to have it is i didn't know what to take away from this game you know sometimes like two teams play and just one ass to win and you don't have to have some like gigantic takeaway like my biggest one was You know, the 49ers are way better with Nick Bosa. Like, that was my biggest one. He had two sacks in this game.

I thought he made a huge impact in week one. He made a huge impact in this game. They felt like two very evenly matched teams, and the Eagles missed so many opportunities to take a big lead in the first half, and it came back to bite them. They led at one point in yardage, 204 to 64. The 49ers for the first time in Kyle Shanahan's tenure did not have a first down in the first quarter.

And it wasn't because the Eagles had the ball the whole time. They had three drives, three and out, three and out, three and out. The Eagles get inside the 10 on one drive, which ended with a failed attempt at a Philly special with Greg Ward throwing a pass, a very Philly special looking like play. They had six plays inside the four. They had first and goal at the one.

And I guess that's my other second takeaway. Okay, number one, Nick Bosa good. Number two. someone's got a win number three i even got three nice the eagles let me down in terms of their short yardage in their dynamic running game i thought their short yardage and dynamic running game was like gonna be really tough to prepare for and that was what let them down is they had many opportunities in short yardage where they couldn't keep um drives going including that time on the goal line and that ended up being the game it does feel like you're starting to learn more obviously

with each new week where the eagles last week played the falcons defense and we saw the Falcons defense today, mostly collapse again. And so it's a different version of Jalen Hertz and the passing game and him on the ground. But I look at the Niners. They are secretly very banged up. Trey Sermon left with a concussion. The Eagles also lost Brandon Graham with an Achilles. I mean, some of these, I feel like every game today seemed to have some sort of laundry list of carnage.

Eagles had a terrible day because they lost two of their best players. I mean, Graham for the season, you know, he's so big on that defensive line. And then Brandon Brooks, their great all-pro guard, left pretty early in this game and never came back. And so they definitely had a rough day. Kind of a bummer this game, right? I mean, I didn't get a chance to see yet. But a 17-11 final, you thought these were two, you know, two teams coming off kind of exciting week-one games. Greg, this was not what you were expecting, I'm sure.

No, Josh Norman started at cornerback. I guess you got to give the 49ers credit for finding a way to get a tough victory in a game where the Eagles looked very. good up front, especially on the defensive line again. Like, that's going to keep them in games, and pretty much their offensive line, too, at least protecting. But you start Josh Norman against across from Lance Lenore. That's their fourth and fifth cornerback starting. You're down a couple starters there.

Verrette's gone for the season. You don't get anything going. Jimmy G had a C-minus game, I think, in the first half. But that's the thing about Kyle Shanahan. Like, he gave him answers in the second half. It also was like a little fluky. Like Hertz had a 90-yard play where they don't quite get the touchdown on a beautiful throw. He had another what looked like a long touchdown where Jalen Rager stepped out of bounds.

And so it was overturned upon review because he was like an inch out of bounds. So it was just like those little margins here. Do you think, and it's early, but the Niners are two and no, that's the best you could possibly be at this stage of the game, But do you think there's a scenario where Kyle Shanahan watches this film and starts thinking about the quarterback position, even if they are winning? Or do you think as long as they win, Jimmy G is going to keep rolling as a starter? I think if the running game continues to struggle and it basically did today, you know, Mitchell only had 42 yards. I wonder if he wants to play Lance Moore to really jumpstart the running game.

They didn't need it today because their defense played so well. but I felt like Jimmy G was like a bad third quarter away from seeing Trey Lance, and then he played a perfect third quarter, and they made the plays would have matter. I mean, the only thing is they've got Green Bay next, and we don't know that, you know, that's not the worst place to deal with on a defense, but Seattle after that, then the Cardinals, then the by. So the question is like, if Trey Lance, you know, he can be sprinkled in and be very effective, is he ready to run the offense, you know.

And they didn't put him in for a play today, not even a sprinkling. I think that's telling to some degree, especially in a, game that this was this tight? I think so. Some of the 49ers reporters made the case like this was not the game for Trey Lans because ultimately Philly was felt like they were winning up front. You had to get the ball out quickly and you had to like make quick decisions with the ball. And that's fine, but Jimmy G's got to play a little better than he did for most of this game. You know, there also goes another like fun theory we all had entering the season that Kyle Shanahan was going to be doing cartwheels doing all this wild stuff with Trey Lance. Well, he did throw a

touchdown a week one, but otherwise it's been pretty much Jimmy G's show. so far. But one theory on that, what would be better than to, because it's such a week-by-week league in terms of our reaction that we now get off this Trey Lance bus and then next week they play the Packers

and he totally unleashes him. Maybe that's what he's waiting for. Right, put everyone into a nap and then pour a big bucket of cold water on like 200 people. I mean, I think Hertz is kind of an example of what maybe a Trey Lance offense might look like. It was very boom or bust.

There's not a lot of chain moving throws. There was a couple big time throws. You have the running from Hurt, but it felt very, like, erratic. And I don't know if that's what Kyle Sienianian one. Speaking a big bucket of cold water, Ricky Hollywood, you know, we talked about it, Mark, that dense fog when we're trying to discern. I don't even know what dense means in this. The situation between Ricky and Greg and Greg tried to get her kicked out of the picks competition.

Ricky had a chance to make a statement herself, but she locked up. the Eagles. So, Erica, the horses. Yeah, no, it was, like, kind of like Greg said. Like, I'm just even watching this game. It was just like, ugh. So, you know, I wanted to hang some onions, and I thought the Eagles might do it, but I was wrong.

I had them to win, too. They were my favorite upset pick of the week. They hurt me. They hurt me. I feel like in general, when you try to hang onions, Ricky, it's not going to be effective, just from an anatomical angle. What was that radio station last week? Dan just went there with the anatomy.

We were thinking it. He went there. That's why I like Dan. There's another team. I love you too, buddy. Here's two more teams that we're looking to keep their season undefeated through two weeks. Only one team gets to do it, though. Garnold gives to McCaffrey on the counter.

McCaffrey to the 10, McCaffrey to the five. And McCaffrey insists on the end zone. Touchdown, Carolina. He was not going to give up until he got there. and McCaffrey's first touchdown of the season. Nick Mixing with the Call Panthers Radio Network. Did he say he insists he gets in the end zone? That's a good way to put it.

I like it because that is what CMC does. And he's added again. The superstar running back went over, well over 100 yards for the second straight week from scrimmage, adding a touchdown this week and a 26-7 win over the Saints. Speaking of week-one narratives going up in flames, who looked nothing like the team. the Pants, the Packers in Jacksonville last week.

Mark, Panthers looking certifiably frisky after back-to-back home wings. They do, and I tend to think it's legitimate because I think a lot of it has to do with the growth of their defense, which was incredibly disruptive today, and really put it to the Saints. They had six first downs in the entire game, New Orleans, 128 yards total, and three yards per play. They also, I mean, Wait, did you just say they had 128 yards total? They were, yes, they were,

That's impossible. It was the lowest since 1997 for the Saints. This is the same Saints team that had 38 and five touchdowns from James last week. Well, I think, I think number one, though. I do think that if you're the Saints, you went through a terrible week. You had no Marshawn Lattimore on defense, no Marcus Davenport, C.G.J.

Chauncey Gardner Johnson was not in there. I mean, they were, Part of it was Carolina's offense. They just looked today, Carolina. Joe Brady is their offensive coordinator, Phil Snow on defense. Very well coached. We've talked about that coming into this. Their pass rush for the second week in a row caused total havoc for James Winston.

James Winston got into the scenario, which we've sort of wondered what he would be in this, where he threw a couple floaters up, ill-advised, picked off. And we didn't get the James Winston from a week ago who, you know, not a lot of yards, but was efficient and scoring touch. touchdowns and, you know, seeing the field, we thought differently. Alvin Kamara had five yards rushing in this game. Carolina went in with a plan and completely had their way with the Saints. And so maybe the Saints are an up and down team or their matchup based, but they don't match up

well with Carolina. And I'll tell you one thing, Sam Darnold also looked really good in this game. This might have been, I think this was Sam Darnold's, the best game of his career. He fits so well with the weapons in this offense. And, you know, of course, getting CMC back. who I think just breaks the will of opponents because there were a number of times in this game where New Orleans could have maybe come back in

and it was always McCaffrey dropping a bomb on the opposition and just creating, you know, converting one more first down. Donald was very clean. He had one loss fumble, I believe it was. Yeah, you had a fumble at one stage. It was really the only mistake. They had a blocked field goal. They got into a little bit of a trap, Carolina,

where you thought New Orleans, if they're going to have any life, would come back in. But they had no life. They had no answer, and I think this is one where Sean Payton, as great of a coach as he is, just did not have the resources to deal with what Carolina brought. And it is not lost on me Twitter, and I'm sure, you know, you think you're clever. It is not lost on me that Sam Donald has been good through two weeks while the Jets are 0 and 2 and the rookie just threw four picks.

I obviously am watching this. But I also, if you want to go back on Twitter and check the last three or four years, I always thought Sam Darnold could play. I think I had like 10 different tweets where I said Sam Darnold is not the answer for the Jets. I think if you put Sam Darnold in a positive situation, the Jets didn't have a Sam Darnold problem. The Jets had a Jets problem, and they still do.

And that's why Zach Wilson in part struggled so much today. Donald has a shot here. Now, one thing I do want to see, because I know we're off and running with Sam Darnold is great now as a narrative in general in our league is same thing with James Winston. I do want to see Sam Darnold when things aren't all going their way when they're not out front early because I did see a lot of that last year when he would press like James Winston's been known to do and the turnovers start coming.

So I don't think we're in the clear yet, but it is a very promising start. And as much as it annoys me that my rookie quarterback failed, I am legitimately happy for Darnold because he deserves the second shot things. I mean, they put the bang thing on him. I mean, 128 yards of 383, it's just preposterous. I mean, Saints fans who were waiting to kind of get the feeling of what the post-Drew Breeze era, this is it. When you fall down, you're not going to be coming back that easily necessarily right now. This team has been through a lot.

I don't think it has been given that much attention that they've been on the road for four weeks now. They're living in hotel rooms, their families, their houses, everything like. that like their lives have been shaken up their roster is decimated by injuries right now i didn't even know cd deuce was out of this game so they were they were out their top two corners you know their best pass rush are a lot going on um on their roster you do wonder if that's like a cumulative effect and oh by the way you're going up against his panthers defense who looks freaking legit we know mat rule is a good offensive coach and that he's going to create yards he did it with teddy bridgewater they just didn't finish drives with teddy but they move the ball up and

down the field. We know, I'm not surprised about the offense. It's the defense that looks in year two like it is really coming together. And I think with Shaq Thompson changing to number seven, something happened. He turned from like a borderline pro bowler, very good player. But then you put the seven on. He's Ray Lewis, Ray Nitchke, Brian Erlocker, Bobby Wagner all rolled up into one. Shaq Thompson suddenly like the best player in the league. Yeah, I mean, his back-to-back performances were incredible. Brian Burns is legit. I mean, you know, the way they went about this, they drafted all defense a year ago. And, you know, you think maybe two or three of those hit, and they're fitting together really well. Again, I think Phil Snow had a great plan coming into this.

And they asked Brian Burns, Ricky has this sound, is this a fluke or is this maybe a playoff team? Let's hear what he had to say. Do you think this is a playoff team? Yeah, facts. Yeah, facts. Yes, facts. Let's hear that again. Let's hear that again, Brian. It's such a long, close. You think this is a playoff, Tim. Yeah, thanks. How about the schedule? Look at the schedule for the Panthers, by the way.

They got the Jets in week one at home. They got the Saints with all their issues at home in week two. They go to Houston. You've got to give them their props there. Okay. They go to Houston next week for the Texans. Then they're at the Cowboys, Home for the Eagles, home for Vikings, at Giants, at Falcons. That's their first half.

They have a chance to get out of the first half with five or six wins. especially if they keep playing like this. Well, then you find out that, you know, potentially half the NFC South is fraudulent and that boost your win total. And, you know, I picked them as a wildcard team, not just because I like that rule, but because, you know, I honestly think that

if you're going to be a successful organization, you need to make that jump in three years. Two is pushing it a little bit, but there was a lot to like about what was going on on offense already. And they're just really well organized. And I think that they caught, they almost caught more teams by surprise a year ago. now they're doing it for real, and Arrow Up, if you're a Carolina Panthers fan.

Speaking of Arrow Up, the Denver Broncos. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game from scouting reports and player development to team-building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week, we study the tape, talk to decision makers, and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day.

Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a diehard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture. If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you. Don't miss it. Listen to the move the six. podcast on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Got the Jacksonville Jaguars in week two. Let's check in on that. Quick throw, right side, pass, caught, band, stepped out or tackle. Fair to the end zone. Touchdown,

Broncos. Did you see, actually, on the subject of Pete pounding, that the Panthers and their infinite wisdom, try to quietly discontinue that from their game presentation. Keep pounding. And the fans went nuts. They're like, where's keep pounding? You don't get right. They're like, we're just trying to keep pounding.

Let us keep pounding. And I don't even, I don't know for sure, but I assume keep pounding. Returning. It can only mean good things. I mean, it's not a good idea to go against what, you know, a vast majority of your fan base feels some sort of identity towards.

So maybe they, you know, the Sam Mills thing? It was. It was absolutely. It's kind of like I think the Red Sox had the idea. Let's, that's kill Sweet Caroline after seven years. It's basically like the most embarrassing thing since us being like the last team to sign like a black player in the MLB. But it's like, no, the fans, they had to bring back Sweet Caroline. That's what it's like.

It pounded. Teddy Bridgewater threw two touchdown passes. One of them to tight end, no offense. You heard that. And the Broncos roll to a 2313 win over the. the Jaguars. How about this for a stat? Denver is 2-0 for the seventh time in nine years.

Okay. I don't know if that just surprised me. Greg, the Broncos also got a breakout game from Cortland Sutton in this one. So, you know, cushy schedule or no, arrow up for the Denver Broncos. Major arrow up. I mean, the Broncos, they are the team of T-H-A-L. I mean, I'd be 2-0 in the locks if I just took the Broncos each week. I'm a loser.

Big Broncos. never won a game in September before this season. And this is all you can do. You can't talk about the opponents of like, okay, you got lucky. You were on the road and you absolutely destroyed two teams. Like the scores in both of these Broncos games, I don't think has been as indicative of how one-sided these two games were. They gave up a first drive touchdown to Trevor Lawrence,

who made three or four great throws on that drive. and the Jaguars didn't do anything else the rest of the game. Teddy was better, I think, this week even than a year ago. 34 throws for 328. You lose Jerry Judy and Cortland Sutton is showing up. This looks like a good NFL team. And it's almost like we're already taking that for granted. But this has been a loser of a franchise for a little while now.

And they already look absolutely legit. I want to see them against better competition, but stomping down on some Jaguars, especially defensively, like that is showing me that this defense, I think, is going to be there week after week. I mean, I got to ask you because I see that Trevor Lawrence was 10 of 23 on pass attempts of 10 plus air yards. Marvin Jones leads with 55 yards.

Your next leading receiver is a tight end, James O'Shaughnessy with 24. So, I mean, it's the second week in a row where outside of a couple throws that you mentioned from Lawrence, like the offense feels like a non-starter. Do you see an identity in this Urban Meyer offense? No, he looks lost. Trevor Lawrence looks lost. I mean, he got a tough draw these first two weeks. I know people don't think the Texans are a tough draw, but what Lobby Smith just was like backing off. The book's out right now, and I mean, Fangio is going to show you a lot before the snap, change it up after the snap. They did not need to pressure Trevor Lawrence to scramble his brain.

It was a tough situation. But also two of the interceptions he had were incredible plays. Kareem Jackson, like, I thought of Wes, because West loves. Kareem Jackson just sprinting across the field out of nowhere. Those are plays not being made in the SEC. And then Patrick Sartan, their top 10 pick made an unbelievable jumping interception on the sideline. So this Broncos secondary, I think, is right there with the best in the league. Denver's defense absolutely feels legit. And after they completely confused Trevor Lawrence, they get Zach Wilson and the Jets next week.

So you figure that will not be easy for Wilson. after Lawrence, the number one overall pick, struggled in this game. And, you know, circling back to Cortland Sutton, you know, he has such great tools. And he's a guy that everybody thinks very highly of. And he just came up on the year anniversary of the knee injury that cost him all of last year for the most part. So for him now to have nine for 159, including like a brilliant, I saw the 55 yarder that started the second half. It comes at a perfect time because we talked about it on the preview show and on the network show that when Jerry Judy goes down, they're like, uh-oh, how is Teddy going to get things going? Well, if Sutton is now back, and certainly this effort shows you that he just might be, that is a huge lift for this offense.

It's huge. I mean, he doesn't look as explosive, but I think he's just such a good route runner and technically proficient and smart. And Teddy seems to have a great connection with these guys' fans making play. I mean, Teddy has balled out these two games. He has exceeded even my expectations. This is like a tough bar for him to stay this good all season. I don't expect it. But he has played near perfect football for Teddy.

I mean, you've been thankfully not overly vocal. We were in our office for the first time on Sunday, you know, in eons. And you didn't hear Greg crowing about that, which was, which I appreciate. I mean, you also on defense, Von Miller, Bradley Chubb, play their first game together since, I think, the fourth game of the 2019 season. I mean, they planned for them to be together week after week. And that Chub cannot stay in that lineup. Yeah, it's a problem.

He re-agravated that ankle injury in the second quarter and looked pretty upset as he came off the field. So you wonder if that kind of restarts his clock and maybe even then some on getting back on the field, we shall see. So that would be the only, I guess, big bit of negative news for the Broncos. But otherwise, Greg, arrow up for the team. Jack's team fall is looking bad team of team of t h a i don't know it doesn't really work uh let's head to the dog pound

mayfield takes it gives it chub runs 25 20 15 10 5 he's in touchdown nick job he didn't jub you oh what a run did he say he didn't chub you i don't i'm not sure what I want to translate that? I want to know more about what was happening in this game. And in the booth between Jim Donovan and Doug Deacon, the Browns Radio Network. Yes, Nick Chubb, 26 yards to the house. And Baker Mayfield threw his first touchdown pass in the season,

also ran for one, leading to Browns to a 31-21 win over the Texans. At another fan homecoming game this time in Cleveland, Mark, a strong showing by Tyrod Taylor was producing some upset vibes until Taylor exited the game of the handstring injury and then it was over. Yeah, I think it was another reminder. I mean, with Tyrod Taylor in there, this Texan team is not as advertised. They are friskier, they're veteran-laden, and Tyrod Taylor was 10 for 11 and moving the ball up and down on Cleveland's defense.

By the way, Cleveland's secondary, I know that it's a bunch of new faces, and that was another heavily dipped in milk and cream narrative. that we talked about 525 times, you know, between February and September, they didn't look a whole lot different to me than last year. They gave up one big play after the next. Davis Mills came in, and after initially being, you know, really jolted around, he found his form too. And so I think that's a concern for Cleveland because this is a game that you think

you'd want to control from wire to wire. It was much closer than that where Cleveland found themselves. And I think it's, you know, reassuring because it's who they are. They just started to run the ball. nonstop down the stretch and the combination of Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb, and catching the ball as well, DeBetrick

Felton, I think steal of a rookie out of UCLA who has a little bit of Eric Metcalf in him and a little bit of some other athletes that are frisky started, you know, they didn't do a whole lot with him last week. He, today was a big impact. It was like a 33-yard, rip up the

middle touchdown run that helped them a lot. But it came down to just being who they were and they stopped being cute. Baker Mayfield had a tough interception, but he finished the game. Again, you know, statistically, he was 19 for 21. He was real clean. He made some nice throws, but they lost Jarvis Landry to a knee injury early. We know that Odell Beckham was not in there.

So it was, you know, your third, fourth, and fifth guys out there and your tight ends making plays. And so I think that limited them a little bit. But still, there was no excuse to lose this game. They pulled it out. You know, I'll take win ugly over, you know, you know, 25 years of losing ugly. But it wasn't one where you walk into your week, if you're the Cleveland Browns thinking,

we are what everyone says we are. There's a lot of work to do. Mayfield went 10 for 10 after that first half interception. He heard his shoulder trying to make a tackle on the pick. Left shoulder, I should mention. And he had to pop the shoulder back in the socket. So obviously, you know, he's a tough guy. And hopefully that's not something that becomes a troublesome issue for him

as the season goes along. Miles Garrett had this to say, Marky, he's like Brett Farr of 2.0, less picks, though, referring to his toughness. I will say this about Mayfield. I can think of four or five times where you can tell that he was physically damaged, and he refused to come out. I mean, even going to the locker room today, it was like 0.8 seconds later that he was running back out. And so I think toughness is one of his traits. Yeah, I don't know about the Brett Fav thing. If anything, he seems.

Well, I know everyone's going to have an issue with that, but I mean, he... I've just... The same Favre 1-3 straight MDPs. It's not saying he's at all parts of Brett Favre. He is. He seems very control. Well, he's Brett Fars without the interceptions. Well, it's like better than Brett Farr.

I mean, I think he is very controlled. He would be, he would make Tom Brady look like, you know. Patrick Mahomes. John Beck. He'd be amazing. I feel like Baker follows instructions now very well. Like they are a highly managed offense. He's got a great offensive coach.

He's in a great situation. And that's good. That's what you want out of like a young quarterback. I've been impressed. Like, Mark emotionally hasn't really shown many scars here of the, you know, somewhat embarrassing failure to cover 12 points that happened here. I mean, you get Davis Mills in the game and you can't, you can't cover 12 points, Cleveland Browns.

I mean, that stuff is on your radar. I mean, I'm, you know, attempting to cover two games at the same time. I've got sound from both games in my ear. I can barely figure out what my name is. So to get out of here with a win, I don't care about the spread. You just feel like Mills gets in there. You're going to win that. You know, you're going to get over.

Well, Mills now plays on Thursday night against the Carolina Panthers. Sounds like that's where it's headed, which is. I mean, that's going to be, that could be problematic. So, wow, things are really set up well for the Panthers. They get Davis Mills now, too. Woo-wee. I see where you're going with this. Woo-wee.

I'm just. They haven't really played anyone. You know, they're a soft 2-0. Well, they'll be a soft 3-0. I see them as they've just dominated a team today. No, the Panthers deserve a ton of credit. But that is a very good setup for them, obviously. It is.

All right. Browns, Jarvis Landry, by the way. I report the Texans on week three of TNF anyways. I mean, that schedule makers come back to us, please. Jarvis Landry, I believe it's an MCL issue. We'll see if it costs some time. It ended a streak of having at least two receptions in 111 straight games leaving this game early. And you just wonder if there's anything to kind of key in on the week leading up to week three for the Browns.

O'Dell's somewhat mysterious situation now with his health. If Jarvis Landry isn't available, that puts a little bit more pressure for O'Dell to get back on the field. And if he's not healthy, he's not healthy. But we'll see what happens with that saga over the next few days. Let us move on. Easton Hats a shotgun snap. Well protected. Let's it go.

Right side. It's picked. Jalen Ramsey at the right sideline secures the week to win for L.A. Oh, give me a mangoes. That's my buddy, J.B. Long. In the dying days of summer, I was with Keisha and the boys and Emily and the J.B. and his beautiful family, and we watched Yadi by nature. Tribute you've been, all things Yat Rock.

I was there, too, by the way. I was also there. you weren't sitting with us. I was, no, I was, you have a little fence area that if you pull up across the, you know, you go down one alleyway, you can spy on your home. And I often just spy on your home in your backyard. So I witnessed the whole thing. A lot to, ought to uncover there and break down.

But let's focus on the game first. Yes, J.B. Long, ESPN, L.A. Matt Stafford led the Rams on two late scoring drives. Matt Gay made a tie-breaking 38-yard field goal with about two and a half minutes to play. and Jalen Ramsey sealed the game with that late interception, 2723 Rams over the Colts who have opened their season with back-to-back losses at Lucas Oil Stadium. Even worse, Greg, Indy finished the game without Wence,

Carson Wence, that is, who exited with an ankle injury and he looked pretty upset on the sideline. Yeah, I just watch Carson Wence, and I think, why is everything so hard? Like every play feels like a replay of every Eagles play over the last few years. And he made some big plays in this game. These two teams looked very even. If you took the uniforms off, you would say like, this is like these are two good teams.

The Colts failed twice in first and goal situations. And that kind of felt like the difference in the first half blowing two chances, one of which was on an ugly Carson Went's shovel pass to know, you know, to the Rams that made no sense whatsoever. But whereas Matthew Stafford feels like he's thrown to open receivers for the most part, Wentz invites pressure. And he made some plays, but it was just very frantic. And I'm not saying like he got himself hurt, but the combination of how this offense, which is very condensed, is run. And the way Wentz plays, it just seems like a bad recipe. He got hit a lot in this game. And so it almost felt like him leaving the game was a matter of time.

That's such a great way. That's a great word to describe Carson Wentz in these last couple of years, frantic. He never just seems kind of under control, and everything seems like, just like this mad dash, mad scramble to turn a bad play into a good one. And it just doesn't always work out. So that's a tough situation for the Colts. And, you know, 11 QB hits on him. Too many hits, of course. And Jacob Eason's the backup.

So you're not going to get any miracles, most likely. behind Wence, and it's only going to amplify the speculation if Wence misses time here that Nick Foles should be in this building, because what is Nick Foles doing in the league if he's not backing up Carson Wence at this point? Let's be honest. And for the second straight week, the Colts aren't able to get the running game going here, Greg. You got Jonathan Taylor, who was like a superstar down the stretch last year. You thought he would build on that, but 15 for 51 here with a long of 13. Yeah, partly, I think, game script, you know, they fell behind and they're trying to catch up a little bit as part of it,

but they just haven't been effective. Like, it's like we talked about coming into this game that the offensive line doesn't feel like a difference maker. And I think their defense was mostly game here. Like, maybe I misspoke by saying things are easy for Stafford because I'm imagining like the cup touchdown. But the Colts got their hands on a lot of Matthew Stafford passes. They had six passes defense. They had an interception. It probably could have been two or three intercept.

of Matthew Stafford in this game, which would have made it look a little different. That's concerning, but I will say Cup, last week, Cooper Cup of seven catches, 100 yards of touchdown. Today, nine for 163 and two touchdowns. I mean, you have to, the chemistry in the Matthew Stafford signing was huge for him. And I do hear a sound in the distance, Ricky. Would you please amplify the sound that I hear? you really reeled me in there i thought there's a real production element about to body rock the show but that's good you got the lock too so um Greg you came into the season really

confident but here you are oh and two i'm not confident at all i'm not confident at all ahead it's all an act my wins were almost entirely based on randomness and luck and um and and now it's going against me that doesn't sound like As I was, I think Dan, as I was attempting to dance to the bongo dance that you let us off with, I guess there was, I don't know if it was a tour going through the building, a man and woman, not, I don't think they're from our company, just standing a foot from me, looking at me in this glass off thing like an animal. Like, it's just there's, I don't, I don't quite get what's happening here. I think, yeah, we'll have to have some conversations with the powers that be to make sure this never happens again. But we are, we are soldiering on. Rams, 2 and O. Cults, oh, and two. What are the cults have next week? What do we got here for Indy?

I mean, that division, we'll see what's going on in the South. Titans with that big win. They are in Nashville next week. Early big game. Man, Carson wins. And he could be on the field. That would be helpful, put it that way. All right.

Let's move on. It's shook time. Carr takes a snap from the gun. Pump fake. They go deep down the middle. got it, Ruggs, grabs it. Jack Punt, baby. Henry Ruggs goes the distance.

Isn't it nice that Brent Musburger there for Compass Media Raiders radio network? That's a mouthful. What's just called CMRRN? Even that's a mouthful. Man, that hurts. Has this great third act to his career now? Live in the life, live in the Rosenthal Dream in Vegas, and gets the call games for this fun Raiders team.

Derek Carr threw for 382 yards and two scores, including that very pretty 61-yard strike to Henry Ruggs midway through the fourth, and the Raiders topple the Pittsburgh Steelers 26 to 17. Now, we welcome in the pipe, who will talk about quasi-bad-assed Derek Carr, who shredded an Ace Steelers D for 263 in the second half. I wrote in the recap today, everybody who hates on Derek Carr, which, you know, that line's pretty long and it's grown over the years. They all must now line up for their reckoning because he has had an incredible two first games to this season. And this one, you know, last week was kind of, you could call it fluky, it was a wacky game even to begin with.

This game felt more like a bit of a prove-it game for Derek Carr and the fact that they were up by two points on the road. in Pittsburgh and very easily could have folded. And what does he do? He drops back, sends one over the middle deep to Henry Ruggs, and sends Brent Musburger into a tizzy in the booth and ends up winning them the game. So, you know, I think that there's still some to be desired from the Raiders so far, but the receiving corps is coming together, and Derek Carr is the one, you know, making all the moves, calling all the shots, and delivering the football accurately to a variety of different pass catchers.

And that ends up being the difference. was banged up in this game too, right, Chuck? Yeah, it was a day of quarterback grit across the league, and especially with Derek Carr who got rolled up on from behind. I think it might have been Robert Spillane and rolled up on him from behind. It looked kind of bad. At least at first, it looked like it could

be serious. He was on the ground for a while. Ends up coming right back into the game. Tapes his ankle up, sprints out to the field to test out his foot, and you can't even tell he was hurt the rest of the game. I would say this. If someone told you a month ago, you know, it's

make any proposition you'd like, but I'm going to tell you that Derek Carr will beat the Ravens and the Steelers out at the gate. I would have absolutely gone a hard no on that. So respect where it's due. I mean, I want to see him do it over the course of a year. He's in this offense for like the fourth year in a row. He should be growing. But no doubt about it. I mean, I would flip it around and ask you about Big Ben because it looked like it was another up and down adventure for him on this Sunday. Yeah. And two things always come away or have come away from watching Big Ben. so far this year. One, we know he's old and he can't move like he used to. And the reason that that's important is because number two, that offensive line has not gelled yet. You know,

you got multiple new guys, you got a rookie playing center, and they're struggling to protect him or at least consistently. And you come up against a Raiders team that in week one had a pressure percentage over 50 percent and, you know, caused all kinds of problems to the Ravens. Now they get the feast on Big Ben. And while he's hard to bring down, he's not that difficult to pressure anymore. And it caused, you know, it forced him into throwing an interception. This week. He actually had a similar situation last week against Buffalo that was overturned by a penalty. But this time he didn't get the break of the penalty and resulted in interception. And they frazzled him. Now, statistically, he doesn't look

terrible and he still move the ball. But what they lack is a consistent run game because of that offensive line again. And it kind of puts them in a position they were in last year where he's forced to throw it over 40 times a game. And even in a one score game, you know, they ultimately couldn't, you know, use that to try to come back. So there is some concern offensively. Their defense is strong, but because of that offensive line is still not a very solid group, I think it's going to take some time. But you just would rather, when you're imbalanced, it's 2021, you want the great offense. You know, you lose T.J. Watt in this game, so that's a concern. They've played two games. It's early, but they scored what,

16 points last week on offense, right? Because they had the punt return. Yeah. And you score 17 this week, you know, that says it all. If you do that throughout the course of the season, you're going to be among the worst offenses in the league. Yeah, it just, it doesn't help when, because like the Steelers defense took a noticeable step back as soon as they lost Watt. It kind of makes you think about it because T.G. Watt's not the most imposing athlete on the field, but he's so effective that when you take him off the field, all of a sudden their pass rush really does lose a lot of that punch that it had, which I think he's the best pass rusher in the league. I don't even think it's a question. Yeah, I guess he wasn't

on the field in that long completion of rugs. T.J. Watt. I mean, I think that's a big part of that. And, you know, You talk about you want to be the better offensive team than the defensive team. Well, if you lose your best defensive player and you're already not a good offensive team, you're staring at an uphill climb. He's the janga piece of that defense, no doubt. Any early indications on how bad the groin injury is? Is it going to keep him out multiple weeks or where are we at? Have you heard anything?

No, not that I heard, but I do know that as soon as he came out, it was basically no question he wasn't coming back in. They showed him on the sideline, and it was a pretty quick ruling. At first, it was questionable, and then he ended up being downgraded to out, but it didn't take very long. And just like with Denver, and they need somebody to step. up and Cortland Sutton's that guy and hopefully Jerry Judy comes back and he's that guy as well. His draft classmate, Henry Ruggs, is such a key part to that offense and seeing

him break out here with that long catch. I mean, was he causing issues all day long or was that more just a splash play that juiced the box score? What were you seen from Ruggs? It was a splash play, but he has kind of progressed both last week and this week into a player who I think is going to take that step that Mike Mayock talked about on multiple occasions of the off season where he simply wasn't a good enough route runner to make a difference last year. I think he's made the progress this year and is going to continue to be that guy. But I think also he's going to be effective because Derek Carr has no favorites. As much as he targeted Darren Waller in week one, today he did not have any favorites. He spread it

all around. Foster Moreau, Hunter Renfro, especially on third down. He hit up Waller again, goes to rugs. He's got a number of guys he can throw the football too. So I think it's going to help rugs overall. What did Najee Harris? What are you seeing from him? I saw some interesting tweets. Can't really get much going on the ground. Had a highlight real stiff arm, but otherwise wasn't really that effective on the ground. Again, I think that's the offensive line. Did have a very nice touchdown grab. He caught it out of the flat. Out ran a guy down the sideline dove to the pilot to score. I mean, he's an athlete and he's a good runner. It's just he needs some room to run and he isn't getting that so far. Let's check in with the defending champs who drew the Atlanta

Falcons. Ryan dropping his old pass batted in the air. Picked off inside the 10. Touchdown Tampa Bay. Mike Edwards has two. Mike has two. Jane Deckerho. Mike Edwards closed out his Sunday with back-to-back pick sixes. He'll sleep well, and Tom Brady threw for 276 and five touchdown. 44 years old.

Now talking about playing until 50. Are you doubting him? Tampa Bay Buccaneers extend their winning streak to a franchise record 10 consecutive games. that included a Super Bowl dub, of course, 4825 win over the Falcons shook. The final score here, though, is a little bit misleading, right? It depends. How much do you value a quarter of football? Because going into the fourth quarter...

I guess it was 2825. Yeah, 2825 late third, and the Falcons have a legitimate chance to potentially take the lead. But again, you're reminded of the talent deficiencies of the Falcons. I mean, Cordell Patterson is their best option out of the backfield right now. They found themselves backed up inside their own five. It was basically a recipe for disaster, which proved to be one. But I mean, you've got to give them credit for performing admirably and cutting down a deficit. I just kept sitting there thinking early in the first half, I was like,

this is one of those games where it's a foregone conclusion. It's very clear who the better team is. Can we get this over with already? And yet the Buccaneers let the Falcons hang around for a little bit and credit to them for scrapping their way back into it. But ultimately, the Falcons proved to be the Falcons, which it's sad to say in week two. but because of this roster that you know you're dealing with, you knew that mistakes were going to happen in a interception that was basically a good play by the defensive back

coming in there and tipping the ball up and then returning it to the house. That was like, oh, here it comes, here comes the avalanche, and sure enough, all that snow followed, and before you knew it, they were completely buried. I mean, it's not just that, like, Brady's throwing for five touchdowns. This is the first time he's ever thrown nine touchdowns in the first two weeks of the season. He's making it look better than he ever has.

Some of the throws today, they weren't, they weren't the foul. It didn't look like it's the Falcons defense just giving him throws. He was putting balls into tiny windows. He did some arm angle stuff. He's throwing on the move occasionally. They, you know, at least are calling some, like, boot action plays for Tom Brady last week. It's blown my mind a little that he's doing it with more style right now than maybe at any point in his career, like more wow factor type of place. Also, from this standpoint, either four or five years ago.

Tom Brady's on the Patriots, and he's in the Super Bowl against Matt Ryan, who's the reigning MVP. And I'm not saying now you fast forward to the present tense and Matt Ryan shot, but Matt Ryan no longer moves as well. He might not throw as well anymore either. He's getting older, and it's just interesting to have a game where you see Matt Ryan being on maybe the other side of his prime and being five or six years younger, eight or nine years younger than Tom Brady. It just once again illustrates what Tom Brady's doing is just unheard of. I mean, with Matt Ryan, what do you see? And I saw a tweet there, Shook, that Ryan has now perfected the art of the third down sack. Is he able to lead an offense to, you know, big results at this stage?

What are you seeing through two weeks here? Well, I mean, if I could play a theoretical game and put him behind the Eagles offensive line, I would say yes. But the offensive line that he's playing behind now doesn't really do him any favors. And it's funny that you mentioned Tom Brady's mobility. or lack thereof, because as I was sitting there watching them, too, look, we both, we all know that Tom Brady is a guy who has not been fleet of foot for the majority, if not all of his career, right? But as I watched Matt Ryan try to escape the pocket and kind of climb it and find somewhere

to throw on a third down in the second half on Sunday, I thought, wow, he's running with concrete and his shoes, which is what I used to think of when I watched Tom Brady run. It's hilarious when you see the two on the field in the same game and the comparison of the two and where they are, and it's also because of the group that's around them. I would say that Matt Ryan can still lead you. I mean, he still had a little improvisation. He had a nice little touchdown pass along the goal line. It's not that he's a terrible quarterback, but he's beyond his prime physically,

and he doesn't have the group around him to kind of prop him up and make him that still very effective quarterback. Well, and it's not the year you'd want to put Matt Ryan in a new offense, which he's in, where conversely, Bruce Ariens said after the game that Tom Brady, and I think we're seeing this, nine touchdowns in two weeks, as Greg mentioned. I mean, just the way he's playing, the confidence, the creativity. of the offense. Arian said he's light ears ahead of where he was a year ago. And they, you know, they were seven and five and lost to the Bears at one stage last year.

Then went on that toured run and they picked up right where they left off and they make it look so easy. But I think it matters that Brady is completely comfortable in an attack where Matt Ryan is in week two of Arthur Smith's offense, which looked better than last week's version of it. But, you know, it's going to be a long year. I think, you know, Arthur Smith got, he got a little creative this week. He did kind of open some things up that he didn't do last week. I don't really think he had much of an opportunity to last week.

But speaking on that Brady point, I think what we're seeing now is the product of a quarterback who has for so often, so much of his career been in this box, right? He's been in the Patriot way and he's conducted himself publicly that way. He's come out of his shell since he's gotten to Tampa Bay. He's more expressive. You see him doing more commercials. He does the Tommy and Grokey thing where they talk about playing until 50, like you guys said. And it kind of shines in his play. It's almost as if he's more relaxed, comfortable, and feels like he can go out and do what he wants to do.

He's not Patrick Mahomes. He's not going to go author some crazy highlight real play in that regard. But I think he's more comfortable and playing freer than he might ever have been before. Let's head to Chicago. Snap to Burrell, looking right, throwing right. It's intercepted. Intercepted by Roquan on his horse 40, 30, 20, 20, 10, 5 end zone. Touchdown!

Touchdown Bears! Pick six. Jeff Johnnyak, WBM with the call, Roquant Smith, returned to interception, 53 yards. That was his first career touchdown, one of three straight picks by Joe Burrow. During the defining stretch of the Bears' 2017 win over the Bengals, shook.

The Bears finished this game with Justin Fields, who replaced an injured Andy Dalton. What did we see from the kid there? Let's start right there. Well, it was kind of a, it was an interesting game to throw him, because it was a defensive slog. I mean, the third quarter, it's seven to three, and it was seven to nothing going into halftime.

It's not like we're seeing a ton of offensive production. Statistically, you look at it. Fields finished with 60 yards passing in an interception that almost opened the door for the Bengals to pull off a crazy comeback win. But I will say he does offer a little bit more in terms of the fact that he can get mobile. You know, he scrambled on third down to get a key first down to keep the ball out of the Bengals' hands and ultimately win the game. I think there's still a lot to be desired from that.

that offense, and I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that there's uncertainty, instability at the quarterback position with, you know what Andy Dalton's ceiling is, and are you going to throw Justin Fields in for a few plays? Oh, wait, now he's got to come in and play every play. It just seems like they're not really on the right track. The only positive that I really pull from them offensively is you know what you have a pass catcher from, you know, Alan Robinson and whatnot. David Montgomery has played really well. The stats don't show it, but like when he runs the ball, you're, it's both today they didn't really show it. I think he had three yards to carry. When he runs the ball, you're like, man, that guy's run hard.

That guy makes people miss. He runs through tackles. You just wish that he had more opportunities, which I think he might get over time. That could help Justin Fields, but it's not like it was a resounding performance from Fields. I mean, it's, again, it's 2021. They dropped back to pass 27 times. They had 83 passing yards. The Bears. That's a fiasco.

We should be giving the Bears some props. They did just go win a game like that. That's nice. But if they can design. an offense around fields assuming Andy Dalton is not going to recover and or take back the starting job, which would seem surprising at this point. Maybe it can be different because whatever this passing game is, like it wasn't working today.

I kind of have a feeling this Bengals defense is going to be decent all year, and they've definitely been that through two weeks. They've been pretty good. But still, 27 dropbacks for 83 yards is a fiasco. And you won, and you won the game. So that must mean Joe Burrow had equal or almost as much. Well, what happened with this Joe Burrow, like, insane meltdown? I mean, three straight picks.

Yeah, three straight picks on three straight passes. Basically, the Bears gave, the Bears defense gave them this victory. And it started with the Roquan picks that we heard in that clip. And then it just kind of snowballed from there. You know, Burrow threw another pass, forced it to a one-on-one coverage. Jalen Johnson made a nice play on. But if you look at it, there's no reason he should ever be throwing there because he's essentially blanketed and Johnson just made a nice play on the

ball. And then the third interception was Burrow in his face just trying desperately to deliver the ball, get rid of it, gets knocked up in the air and easily intercepted. It gives the Bears great field position, not that much of a challenge for them to try to turn it into points. Roecon with one of those touchdowns. And then all they had to do was hang on and hope that their own offense didn't shoot themselves up in the foot enough to give the Bengals a chance to come back. Even the long, you know, Chase touchdown was on a pretty underthorn ball by Burrow. So it's just going to, I don't know, coming off. the ACL. There's going to be ups and downs. And it's a reminder to the Wessling brothers. Like,

Nick really wanted to take the Bengals. Phil really wanted to take the Seahawks. It didn't matter. So you guys should just hug it either way. I have a little quick story. I bought a butterfly wind chime because of Lakeisha was saying that when she sees butterflies, she thinks that it reminds her of West or when the wind chimes go off. And so I've found a butterfly wind chime me. day and so I bought it and it's hanging outside my window and as the bangles lost I kid you not the wind chime went off and I don't know what that means if it means anything but it did make me laugh today during that year yelling at yelling at uh his brother forever thinking to lock Cincinnati which really made me smile today it's definitely yelling that's what the wind chime

is representing there um all right hey shuky thank you buddy and I was saying a mark earlier in a private moment that I'm going to make public now in the newsroom that I envied the way Kyle Brandt filled out a t-shirt. And I just have to say, maybe Nick beats out Kyle. I mean, look at the way that thing just pours over his body. Straight cash on me. It's, yeah. Hard work pays off. I would give the advantage to, I'd give the advantage to shook on just sheer bulk. I think Kyle's bulking up came in one off season. if I remember correctly, that kind of stunned people. I mean, Shook, I feel like it's probably been muscle bound since age six and a half or seven.

I feel like that's just sort of what your body is like. No, not true. I mean, I got pretty decent genes, but I was a late bloomer, Mark. In fact, I started high school at about 5'6 to 140 pounds. Greg, 56. Yeah. So you were Greg in high school, and then now you became this. See, that's a less adult.

So we can all dream. Don't knock 5, 56, 140. We can't even see it. Dial that down a little bit. Make it 132. 5.1.1.17. They're just falling all over you. All right.

There you go. Good 5-6 talk. Shuki, thank you, buddy. A treat is always for us. Oh, and Dan, by the way, the pipe thing, much to Greg's dismay, totally catching on, according to Twitter this week. So good for you. Because it's a great fucking nickname. We'll go with that.

All right. Thank you, Nick. See you guys. On to Sunday night football. This monster offensive line. You've got extra offensive linemen in there. Chiefs have to make sure they don't jump. And Jackson will get the first down.

And in effect, end the game. Go on with it. John Harbaugh. Oh, we like to talk about onions on this program. John Harbaugh. He hung him with the game on the line. But it's easy to do that. Or easier.

When Lamar Jackson's your quarterback, Lamar Jackson, on fourth and one near midfield, gets the yardage necessary, clinching a big-time comeback victory for the Baltimore Ravens who outscore the Chiefs. Twelve Zip in the fourth en route to a 3635 win in Baltimore, just a massive win, Greg and Mark, for the Ravens who looked like they were going to get run out of the building, and instead run into week three on fire. Cryptonite no more. Lamar Jackson gets the monkey off his back. I mean, things are going against the Ravens all week long.

I can't even track like Greg's favorite players anymore. I mean, there's 700 players and Greg loves 696? Who's the favor? He's taken 696 for himself. Hey, guess what? The rest of America loves Lamar Jackson with me. Join the bandwagon. He's fun to watch.

And this game and this organization, no matter what happens the rest of this season, like no other team, I don't think, wins this sort of game with the injuries and everything that's gone against them and the situation that they were in of all the games to actually beat the Chiefs. This, to me, like, blew me away. It, like, gave me a big time shot of adrenaline at the end of, like, a long Sunday to just see a football game this good with this many, like, great plays back and forth. and when the Chiefs were across midfield on the last rave, you think it's absolutely over. Oway forces the fumble, but then not only for John Harbaugh to ask Lamar Jackson, you want to go for it?

It's like Harbaugh knew in that moment, the NFL, you know, like the camera's on him because he knows Lamar's going to say, yes, I want to go for. But it's also the play call and the ability of this offensive line to execute that play. It was a very creative play call. They stack one side. And more importantly, they do it at a tempo,

which takes a lot of cohesion. They ran up to the line of scrimmage, and instead of wasting any time, they snapped it right away. It didn't look like there's a huge hole there for Jackson, and he uses all of his patience and waits for those offensive linemen, who maybe are the MVPs of the game,

as a unit to get that hole open, and you win it doing what you do best. You never give Patrick Mahomes a ball back, and that is just like an unbelievably impressive victory by the Ravens. Yeah, I mean, you have to factor in what Baltimore has gone through, over the previous fortnight injury-wise i mean their backfield isn't even what they plan for on any level and on that fourth down play if you're kansas city you know exactly what's coming and you can't stop it and that's how you feel about kansas city's offense but when baltimore is chiming in the way

they did right there they're unstoppable i love the fact that harbaugh overcomes what would have been a huge talking point burning the two time out so early it put them in a terrible spot it gave kansas city a glowing chance to win before that fumble. But you know what? Against Kansas City, you need to create their mistakes. You must find a way to even out the mistakes because Lamar had those two interceptions. Honey Badger played his mind out with the pick six. But you got Patrick Mahomes' first interception in September.

Clyde Edwards-Helair, his first fumble in the NFL came in the same game. And I love the idea that even though, you know, these were not successful, they kept going for the two-point conversion. Kevin Zeitler was so clearly pushed on one of them, too. I thought it was very questionable. But they just overcame Baltimore their own mistakes, which is unlike what happened with the Browns in week one. Baltimore proved themselves to be the class of the division. And they mentioned Greg Roman at the end of this game, and I like that. Because Greg Roman, I think, you know, fairly and unfairly has taken plenty of heat for the way the offense broke down at points last year. But tonight they just stuck to their identity.

They are who they are. You may not like it. You may not like it at times because it collapses here. in there but tonight it was overpowering it was too much for the chiefs and you don't see that often at all um it's been a zany misadventure for the podcast today with our new studio meltdown and um you know after we finish the initial portion of this podcast we take a break we watch the rest of sunday night football um Greg and I stumbled and found this movie theater in this new building that has a legitimate like big screen

movie screen where we watched the end of this game and Greg hit on which has always been a pet peeve of mine when the Kansas City Chiefs had the ball with four minutes to play in the game he said oh the chiefs have an 87% win percentage chance right now I was just making up a number which has always been if you listen to this podcast a pet peeve of mind I hate win probability it's stupid and I said well let's calm down Greg a lot of things can happen You know, I know Mahomes is going to do Mahomes things, but maybe the kicker messes up. It had to be somebody that was going to mess up. It wasn't going to be Mahomes, and it was Clyde Edwards Aller.

And you saw the reaction, and NBC does such a great job with having cameras all over the place. DeMarcus Robinson, I believe it was collapsing to the turf of this face down. It's a week two game, but everybody knows the stakes. And everybody knows how many people are watching this game. And Clyde Edwards-Hillair, who has been, you know, had a middling career to this point for a first-round pick. who had a lot of expectations, that's going to stick with him for a while now. And you hope he gets a chance to move on from this and become the player he can be. But to put the ball on the ground there, oh, my goodness.

So I'll always remember that. And yes, credit John Harbaugh's decision making there. I even said in the moment punt it away. They have no timeouts. The chiefs pin them with your special teams and then hold on for dear life. But the move was to trust Lamar Jackson, who looks every bit. a reminder that he is an MVP. He is a guy who could

be the MVP again. He is a special player and there's nobody like him. I mean, I agree with you, but can I just suggest one question? Also, you were invited, by the way. I was invited, but I have, like, you know, IT has made it very clear. You don't leave like 40 pounds of computer equipment

exposed in this French telephone booth. So I'm up here, I'm up here, I'm up here, there is no oxygen in this room. I'm up here in this little tiny, like, pod that's about to shoot out of the building if there is some sort of meltdown and you guys watched the rest of the game on a movie screen?

Well, I'm... Do you hear this? Don't give me, Greg, did you hear this? You would have been sucking the oxygen out of the room. To take like literally 80 different pieces of equipment to a different floor so that Greg could sit comfortably in his easy chair. You're upgraded to a movie screen?

I'm out of here. I left my computer open. I left my iPad out. I left my phone here. I'm reporting you to, you know, information technology. Mark, who are the criminals, like, wandering through this building right now looking to steal your... He's tighter than the White House. I don't trust anything that they're up to you.

You can't even move around without a censor on you. Like, the security's fine in here. But you know what? If you were in that room, I probably would have had to tone down my glee as it was ending. Because as this, as our stream yard, you know, link started, you're not happy that the Ravens who looked like they could have been down and out here at Owen 2 instead get as as meaningful a regular season victory as they could. possibly get that reaction, Dan, that you said, you know, when Oway makes the play. And look, that's a first round pick that was kind of controversial. And here he is showing up in his first two weeks. The look on Lamar and Sammy Watkins' face, putting their arms around each other

before they even go on the field. This was a momentous win because in so many ways the Ravens didn't have any answers. I mean, the Chiefs went up and down the field all game. You know, the Chiefs got the 11-point lead going into the fourth quarter. Hey, how about that story? oh, the Ravens aren't built to come up from behind. How about they just came from behind against the two-time defending AFC champions in the fourth quarter by running the ball? Well, also, like, they held Tyreek Hill to 14 yards.

That's something almost no team does. And I wasn't unhappy for them because I view the Chiefs kind of like a Hulk Hogan figure from the 80s where, you know, he's going to go through the motions. You think he's going to lose. He never loses. And the AFC has not touched outside of the, forget the charges game. You told me that you wanted the Ravens to take. a dirt nap early in this game.

That may be how I feel going into most Ravens games, but I do have tremendous, whether I like them or not, I have total respect for who they are and the way they carry this game out and how gutsy they are. That's how you deserve to win. And, you know, Dan, I know you had them, was it below the Steelers and the power rankings? That gets flip-plopped hardcore because this is the division horse right here. And by the way, Chris Collinsworth tonight using the term at one point, hosses. I just, that's what I don't need from Chris Collinsworth.

I know you guys love him to death, but it's a little to 1971 folksy Midwestern. This has been a tough day at the office for you. I mean, he said Haas and now you're all fired up about that. It's, like, Wes and I always used to talk about the fact that he's a little folksy, and like he's going, he's like pressing into it with Hosses. But it was a tremendous football game and one of the better Sunday night games in a while. Your excitement, your enthusiasm jumps off the screen right now. I am not being unexcited about this.

I think I'm appropriately, you know, it's a blip on the radar in life, and, you know, I don't need to, I don't need to be dancing around pantless around the office. I know. Greg's a little over the, Greg's a little over the line, too. Yeah, let's find the middle porridge bowl. This is the game of the year. Like this, not just because it's, no, this, we're going to play the whole season, and at the end of the season, you're going to make the top five games of the year,

and this will be one of those five. I don't know if it'll be number one, but it's got a chance. You can go a whole season without a game like, this because think of the individual plays that happen in this game. That Travis Kelsey touchdown, which I didn't see live, but went back to watch. That was one of the best touchdowns of Travis Kelsey's career. Next-Gen stats gave it a 3.3% chance. I'm going to give you some weird numbers.

The Byron Pringle play was absolutely outrageous that touchdown. That had a 0.7% chance, supposedly, of being a touchdown when he caught that pass. Like, the back and forth of this game. Well, how about the Lamar Jackson jump pass to Hollywood Brown? Right, but the back and forth starting. with the turnovers and and I'm with you mark I thought the game was like more than over and I was pleasantly surprised to see like how that all ended up all right hopefully these teams play again in January that would be fun and it very very it's very possible these are two excellent teams

and that was a lot of fun and I just want to thank the Dallas Cowboys the Los Angeles Chargers Tennessee Titans, the Seattle Seahawks, the Minnesota Vikings, the Arizona Cardinals, the Kansas City Chiefs, and the Baltimore Ravens for saving professional football. We needed you, and you were there for us,

and we will not forget it. All right. Well, we got through it. Week two, flagship show, in the books. We have one more game to come. Detroit at Green Bay, Slaughter. and you will hear from us next on the Around the NFL podcast Tuesday, hopefully from our studio.

But at this bet, we could be in broom closets throughout the building. Hardcore TBD. All right, wherever you guys are in the building, get home safely. And I will try to do the same. And thank you to everyone for listening. And until then, until Tuesday, I should say, he's the call. We're going to be able to be. You know,

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