NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2022 Week 2 Recap: That Was Wild!

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap a WILD Sunday of football, starting with the thriller between the Cardinals and Raiders (2:36). The heroes talk through four other games with insane endings: the Dolphins erasing a 21-point fourth-quarter deficit in Baltimore (10:25), the Jets' extremely improbable victory in Cleveland (17:31), the Cowboys' last-second win over the Bengals (26:13), and the Rams holding on to beat the Falcons (32:13). Next, the heroes cover Tom Brady's first regular season victory over the Saints since moving to Tampa Bay (40:25) before welcoming in Nick Shook for help recapping Giants-Panthers (48:16) and Broncos-Texans (54:26). After the break, we get into Trey Lance's injury as the 49ers defeated the Seahawks (1:00:32), the Lions first win of the season over the Commanders (1:08:07), the Patriots taking down the Steelers (1:12:54), and the Jaguars throttling of the Colts (1:16:30). Finally, we finish things off with the Packers-Bears Sunday Night Football match (1:23:58).  Note: timecodes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Now that's a mojo moment. From the Chris Wesleying podcast studio, it's Around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansis. Got heroes. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Whoa. Whoa. This was,

We've been doing this now. This is our 10th season, boys. I think this was an all-time witching hour Sunday, both in the early and late games, a lochpocalypse for in our locks competition. Lopocalypse. A Lopocalypse. And, oh, not for nothing.

Probably the most unlikely Jets win in the history of this show. Against the Browns, which, of course, does nothing for you, Mark, emotionally. Not nothing. Well, no, I mean, like the experience of watching your emotions and the roller coaster during that early window was fascinating. But then I completely forgot all about the early window by the time the later games came around. It was one of the more insane week twos of our lifetime.

I would say this might be, Gregi, you're really taking on the mantle of the ATN historian lately, and we're all, we pinch ourselves. This has to be stacking up there as one of the craziest Sundays. In terms of improbable comebacks from positions that you just could not expect, between the Cardinals and the Jets and what's the third one I'm thinking of that was absolutely insane. The Falcons making it close and then the dolphins being the most crazy.

It turns out most crazy comebacks in one week. How could we top this? Although we kind of saw last season more than any season and we're seeing this now in this NFL. Like three score leads are not what they used to do. I'm just expecting at this point. And today I fell into the trap where we talk about the lineup of what order we're going to talk about these games. And we were deep into the second window and saying, and these games aren't very good.

I'm not going to look at any game that way ever again because every one of these things are going down to the last 90 seconds, if not into overtime. Yes, the witching hour was strong in both windows. So let's get to it. We're going to start today's show by hammering you with five straight epic bangers

with unbelievable endings before we get to. By the way, some killer quarterback injury news a little later in the show. Nick Shook coming up. So much fun to get to. Let's get going. starting with when went down the horror in the desert, at least for the Raiders. Carr waiting for the shotgun snap.

He's got the ball, quick throw, left side, rent-throw with a catch. And he breaks one tackle. Then the ball comes out. It's loose and it's picked up by the Cardinals in midfield. It's picked up by Byron Murphy at the 40, at the 30, at the 20, at the 10. Ball game. Byron Murphy picks up the ball at midfield returns it for a touchdown. And the Cardinals win.

No flags. What an unbelievable finish here in Vegas. I was hoping to hear Ron Wolfley. But he's probably passed out. I think at that point. In the press box. After unbelievable, Byron Murphy Jr., that was KMVP, by the way. Byron Murphy Jr.

recovers the Hunter Rent for a fumble. Takes it to the house as the Cardinals score the game's final 22 points and a stunning 29-23 win over the shell shock. Raiders and their fans at the new black hole. That's NU with an umlot. Mark, Greg, can start with either of you here because this was your guys, this was your lock of the week. And it came down to Kyler Murray and his magic act, getting the touchdown and two-point conversion with triple zeros in regulation, and then the defense took it home. This game to me, well, that's no surprise. Greg and I are taking the L, and I mean, this is a rough

day for all lockers involved. except for one. If you go back in time an hour before the final result, the Byron Murphy touchdown, I was sitting there covering this, shouting insults at the Cardinals. I think you heard some of them because it was six plus quarters in a row where the Cardinals to me looked like they had no plan on defense and that Kyler Murray, I was starting to question, I don't question his incredible gifts, but could he alone save an offense that seemed like it was ready to sink into the sand?

And then you fast forward an hour, you get Isaiah Simmons, who really had. disappeared into the ether on this defense, making the huge hit that helped cause that fumble. Former first round pick. Right, you get the Byron Murphy touchdown at the end. But for me, it is what Kyler Murray did over the last half of this game. Completely took it over and really rescued the team. I mean, first of all, like the two two-point conversions,

his first to run in to scamper was one of the better plays we've seen in many seasons. He ran 84 yards on that two-point conversion. That's not an exaggeration. That is the next-gen stat. It is the longest, obviously, anyone's ever run on a two-point conversion, 84 yards. That's amazing. It looks like it. I mean, it looked video game-esque.

But then also, to take the game into overtime, you know, A.J. Green had some issues in this game. But the throw in connection with A.J. Green on that two-point conversion, to pull it into the fifth frame was one of the best throws of the entire season two. So Kyler Murray comes out of this. Cliff Kingsbury is not perfect, but he comes out of this. The Cardinals lost defense. comes out of this with new life. And the Raiders, that's a whole different topic. But I think for Arizona, it changes their season, which was sinking quick.

Right. I think they were staring at the darkest 0-and-2 start of any team if this game kept up as it was going, because the first half total domination by the Raiders. But they turned it around working hard, like an 11-play 94-yard. It still wasn't coming easy. They actually turned it over on downs before that two touchdowns that they had. and they had so many plays at the goal line. That game tying drive to go to overtime was 18 plays, 65 yards.

Green dropped a ball where it looked like he was tackled the one that could have been intercepted. Kyler Murray threw another pass where the Raiders dropped an interception. He threw another pass right off of a Raiders receiver's hip that popped up in the air and could have been intercepted. And there were just so many different plays like that. Marquise Brown had a ball jostled out during overtime. It's like so much of like this sport and what the Cardinal season could look like

comes down to like Marco Wilson jumps on the fumble in overtime, but it squirts out and Murphy goes and gets it. But they deserved it by the end. Like they were the team that dominated really from the second half on their pass rush got after Derek Carr and then Renfro ends up fumbling it twice in overtime. I thought, wow, that must be crazy. He must never fumble. He actually fumbled last week and he fumbled five times last season.

So it is a little bit of an issue for Hunter Renfrey. Yeah, I think this was also an all-time Sunday for Coltakes on Twitter. And I'll raise my hand with this game. I'm kind of keeping an eye on it because, you know, and that's what we do on Sundays. And I had quote, we retweeted the March news that Steve Kime, the GM and Cliff Kingsbury had received contract extensions and wrote, reminder that this was odd at the time. Now it feels like a developing boondog. And maybe it still is.

I'm not saying like everything is wiped away, but winning cures a lot of things. And it completely changes the vibes in Arizona now. And on the other side of it, for the Raiders, this is the Josh McDaniels era. This is supposed to be the start of something special. For the Raiders, who obviously in addition to having this better roster, you have Devante Adams there,

he goes two for 12 on seven targets in this game mark. and their offense, when they needed to stop the bleeding down the stretch, it just was nowhere to be found. Absolutely lost. And, I mean, again, if you go back in time earlier into the game, I was thinking this was a very clean performance by Derek Carr. After last week's three-interception meltdown, he had spread the ball all over the place.

They're not like a downfield striking offense under Josh McDaniels. They, their passing game looks different, but it looked really productive. They were in total control, and I thought Patrick Graham has this Raiders defense playing at a different place than they were a season ago before that they were getting to Derek Carr Matt Crosby, Max Crosby was all over the place I think they got totally worn out in this game they look so gas down the stretch

and they just did not show up and make a play at all I mean because the offense didn't do anything in the second half look if they have one decent drive then they get it going like that Crosby brings up another play in all of this that made it happen I mean Max Crosby and this is why it's like let's not give Cliffs Kingsbury too much credit here This is Kyler Murray being one of the most sensational athletes I've ever seen in doing things that only he can do.

The game was over if Max Crosby, one of the great pass rushers, who's forced Kyler Murray to about the 25 or the 30 yard line on a play on the goal line and has him in his hands, has, you know, little Kyler Murray. I say that as a truly diminutive man. I mean, in real life, Kyler Murray's, you know, well-built man. It's a thick individual. You're a small stature, but that's weird, Greg. Yeah. Crosby has his arms around Kyler Murray. The game is over at that point.

It's over, Johnny. It is fourth down. He gets out of it, and you know what? They don't win the game on that point, but he gets out of it, and there's a pass or a holding call on the Raiders defense that keeps the game going because Murray can escape, and that's what was all about. That was the killer. I think, yes, and Byron Murphy Jr., you're the hero, but I think what Greg is saying,

what Mark's saying, I'll echo it. You could, when the Kyler-Murray extension happens, you go, oh, okay, it makes sense because he's put a lot of great things on tape. But let's see how this contract works out. And then you see a game like this, and you realize that he really is one of one. And the Cardinals are very lucky to have him. We're today. We're just getting started.

You know, it's going to be a good show when there's Spittle on my computer screen. You know, watch back on YouTube. You're rabid. We're the winners. Let's head to Baltimore where another road. dog blew up to a shotgun back to throw looking looking looking steps up fires touchdown it's wattle touchdown oh my gosh too looked around it came back to waddle what a throwing catch with 14 seconds left

oh the lockable the locholips lockpocalypse what are we did where do we said on you said lockpocalypse i just kind of like lockillips but that doesn't really work. Lockpocalypse. It rolls on. Apocalypse. Yeah. Zeus are locked up the Ravens. He's feeling good. But then, Tua, Dua. Jimmy Cepelo with the call WQA.m. Tuanon, step out of the dark web and rejoice. Tunga Vailoa threw for 4669 yards and six touchdowns. Six. Four of which came in the final quarter. The Dolphins rally back from 21 down in Baltimore to beat Lamar Jackson, who, was out of his mind himself in this game.

A 42-38 win over the Ravens, and you heard it there to a seven-yard touchdown pass to Jalen Waddle with 14 seconds left. Completed what was just an amazing comeback by Miami, an eye-opening comeback to people like me, people in there, I'm not alone, that doubt Tua, that doubt this offense's ability to kind of live up to the hype.

And then you see a game like this, and you say, okay, okay, now I see it. Now I can see how it works. They were down 35, 14 with less than 13 minutes to play, and they just never got stopped. And they made some big plays along the way in other phases of the game. But when you look back at this game, and we'll see if Tua can now build on this mark and become a star, which is what the Dolphins thought he would be. But this was a potential star-making performance from a quarterback that's been very hot and cold in his career to this point.

Yeah, I think with Tua, he's at the place in his career where you're on your, you know, a second coach, this point, and you didn't draft Justin Herbert, which we know the owner was peeved about. And with Tua, you can look at him. Tom Brady was on a yacht. Right. You can look at Tua through certain metrics and say he's incredibly accurate. He does X, Y, and Z really well, but you don't see it on the field. And I've always been like, I just want to see that to a moment, that game that alters

the way that he's looked at by the general public to something. It happened today because it wasn't just, it was the way they did it. He made a couple massive key throws in this. And I would say flip side. No, I mean, but it was a clinic in the second. Right, because it's not unlike the Kyler game where you and I are sitting next to each other, we're kind of grumbling about the fact that, like, holding hands. This Tua thing is probably not working to some degree.

I mean, we're jumping to conclusions to, I get that, but it's... At halftime. Right. He looked like the two of the meh, two, uh, that you've kind of got a couple picks in the game. Through two picks in the first half, made some throws as well and kept them in the game. But at the same time, it was kind of like, okay, this is what we're expecting. And instead of it, instead of it getting away when it looked like it was a blowout, it doesn't. And Lamar Jackson, Greg, was incredible in this game.

And that was, to me, going to be the story. That was how I was going to lead it on the show that this guy is flying on his way to another MVP potentially because his passing has never been better. He has a 75-yard touchdown run that you think salts this game away late in the third quarter. And yet the Ravens can't find a way to close it out. And that's concerning as well, Greg. The defense really did. Maybe it's one of those days, Greg.

Every team can have it even a good defense where just the walls fall in. but still not a great look. Well, they're a little thin at certain positions. I think they're edge rusher. I think parts of their secondary. I know Marcus Peters and Humphrey played in this game, but they were hurt coming into it. But this is also just unprecedented.

I mean, I think conditioning, you don't play in the preseason, some crazy stuff happened at the end of these games. But that doesn't take any credit away. I mean, this game was so epic. This comeback was so epic. The only games you can compare it to are games like, I remember where I was when I saw them. Here are the only 21-point comeback.

since 2000. There's only even five. Your jets against the dolphins. Miracle at the Meadowlands. Yeah, okay. Another miracle at the Meadowlands, rather, in 2010. That the Sean Jackson led comeback. I remember the Vince Young comeback from 21-0-0-0 against the Giants

in the fourth quarter of that game. That was one of my all-time favorites in 06. There was the Peyton Manning game on Monday Night Football. Like, those are it, like against the Bucks where he did it. Games that people talk about for the rest of Peyton Manning's career, This is that game for two. Was it more special that you were sitting next to Dan and Mark this time around for this version of this? That's true.

I wasn't there for any of those. Like, you weren't there. This game was a fog. In fact, I was kind of annoyed because I wanted to draft this game first overall. And then I just thought value-wise, take Buck Saints. And I made a mistake. Just take, go with your heart. By the way, they're waving the five-year waiting period and putting me right into the draft

Hall of Fame for the games this Sunday. Everyone was going to be on the list of the top 10 games. Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill combined for two. 22 catches for 200, and they were making me do math on the fly, 61 yards. They were targeted to combine 32 times and had 22 catches. I mean, I'm not saying this out. It's going to be every week, and it won't. But this is the proof of concept game for Mike McDaniel,

and it was pretty amazing to watch. So, Dolphins fans, yes, I saw you in my mentions. Oh, yeah, you said you were going to eat humble pie if they lost it. I'm gobbling it up. It is a concerning level of calorie intake. I must because the dolphins showed out in a huge spot here, and they're 2-0. How about that? Oh, I'll eat it too, because I was strongly considering the Ravens as my luck, and I said as much.

Let's give McDaniel the last word on Tua. I think it was a moment that he'll never forget that hopefully he can use moving forward because we didn't have the strongest. We basically had to play perfect complimentary football to come back from a deficit like that against a really good team. So it couldn't be happier for him and his teammates know.

His teammates learned a lot about him and I think he learned, his teammates learned a lot about him and I think he learned something about himself. Don't we all have like a friend in our past That is exactly like Mike McDaniel. I can't, after Rachel Benetta did her latest genius impersonation on Twitter, I can only see Napoleon Dynamite now.

I can't unsee it. But anyway, he adds to the argument. It is what it is. It is what he speaks. But, I mean, look at, you've beaten Bill Belichick and you just did what you did today. He seemed like happy, exhausted, where he just couldn't even think straight anymore. Congratulations to Mike McDaniel and the dolphins.

Let's move on. A fun dolphins team. It's been a while. This is, guys, as we move along here, a historic Sunday. Just a wild thing's going on. I have yet more history for the first time and I don't know how long

since I became a father. I will make a point this week to sit my children down to watch a jet game together. Third down and 10. 25 seconds to go. The jet's down by six. Blacko takes the shotgun snap and drops.

Looks up the scene. Fires caught. Touchdown. Garid. Wilson scores. The Jets are a point after away from taking the lead with 22 seconds to go. Oh, bongos baby! More history.

Bongoes for the Jets? Bob was choosing with the call. We never hear Bob on the show, W-E-P-N. Joe Flacco fired a 15-yard touchdown pass to rookie Garrett Wilson. Who's a player, by the way, with 22 seconds left. The Jets almost impossibly rallied down from 13 down in the final two minutes for a 3,130 win over the Browns. And that place was a mausoleum in Cleveland. Just stunning what happened here on 3rd and 10.

Flacco, who had four touchdown passes in this game, found Wilson over the middle. Earlier in the fourth quarter, Wilson had dropped a crucial third down pass that led to a Jets punt that seemed to put the game away for the Browns, who got another big-time game from Nick Chubb. And yet, after Chubb goes into the end zone to put the Browns up 13, when he could have went down on one knee, it's that thing that happens sometimes? Where it's like, oh, don't let him go in the end zone. They're going to win anyway.

No, go down, kill the clock and end the game. He goes in the end zone. Cade York, who went from the nursery to the kicker club, then misses an extra point. Flacco and the Jets come on the field, and right away, Corey Davis gets hit wide open down the right side line for a 70 plus yard touchdown after the extra point okay one minute left and a little bit of change jets don't really have any way to stop the clock brown just got to recover an onside

kick they can't do that and now you know it's getting tight things are puckering in Cleveland in the crowd because now the jets have the ball down six because the miss p a t and then uh flacco takes them right down the field they get an interception to close it by ashton davis and uh it is one of the more unlikely Jets wins in a very long time. And for the Browns who were set up for a 2-0 start, just a crushing loss. But the Jets, Greg, I know you picked them, I think to win by one point. They won by one point, but I don't think it's how you predicted it. No, I thought it would be like 13, 12.

It'd be ugly. You're telling me how Jacoby Brissette actually played pretty well in this game. He played great in this game. Like, you know, your old thing, oh, Joe Flacco's a fluco. Flucco no more. You know, as great a position that the Raiders were in, up 16 points with the ball 12 minutes to go. You want the win probability percentage with 155 to be?

I was going to say, as great a position that the Ravens were in, up 21 fourth quarter, nothing like this situation where the Browns have a first down before that Nick Chubb touchdown. I mean, nothing close. Do you want the number? Please give it to me. With 155 to play, and you know, listeners, no, I do not like win probability.

99.8% chance that the Browns win at that moment. And yet they found a way to lose. And usually the Jets don't find a way to go into that window that gets open, Mark. But in this case, in this weird Sunday, the Jets even found a way to be magical. And I'm still processing it, as are all the Jets fans I know back home. Right. And I think it started much earlier in the game for me because it could have been nail in the coffin, had the Jets not gone with a really gutsy fake punt as well that led to a scoring drive.

So I think you get that. You combine the Cade York mixed festival. point and you get and you do the onside kick it was a special team a glorious special teams day for the jets that really to me their defense has issues they got run over by the browns but garret wilson is this one of the big discoveries on this day and i mean if you can get this for 102 and two i mean i think like we knew we can play but i mean it's been it's been so hard for the jets despite their pieces that seem to look better and better every season for any of them to show up in these games and this was the day that kind of finally that

happen. And if you're Cleveland, it is a total team collapse because you can't, I typically thought when Cleveland loses these games, you're going to first look at Jacoby percent and say, well, that's the liability. That just was not the case today. He is one. He is a tough individual, first of all. He's not perfect, but he did all he could. They ran the ball the way that you would want to, formula-wise, to say you're going to win some games before Deshaun Watson comes back. All of that happened, except the Jets pulled so many tricks and so many maneuvers out of their but that things went differently. Listen, this is a game that ended up with 800 total yards between the two teams.

The Browns did anything they wanted, basically, on offense in this game. Nick Chubb ran the Jets over, especially in the second half. Brissette really played well. Now, the interception that ended the game came with less than 10 seconds to go, but they had a shot to get into field goal range, and that was a legitimately bad throw. But the thing that jumps out, yes, the Jets had that early fake punt to set up their first score. But the rest of the game went exactly kind of how you thought it,

would go to where what we've seen from the Jets in recent years to where the Browns felt like they were until there was 155 to play and then something just happened and it's one of those games that you'll remember on both sides that Jets fans will remember it and for like the unlikely nature of it for a franchise that's been down forever. Browns fans will not forget this one. That will stick to the ribs. Just so like I know the Browns are a complex subject on this show and in general but it's not just the Jets that have had tough times. The Browns have not been two and oh. since 1993 when Vinnie Testa Verdi and Bernie Cozar were dueling banjos at quarterback.

So this is a crushing loss. The one thing is the Browns know how to author those. They do. I got to say the newsroom in our little area did not feel any different than previous Brown's years. When the Brown had this game ripped away from them, I felt for you, Mark, and I felt like it had been ripped out of you. Greg, I think you're pretty – I'm sitting next to Dan. I wasn't really even – I was doing other stuff during it. I know that you want this to be the way it is.

I don't. I was honestly kind of happy for Dan because it's like I'm not emotionally tied to the result. The Jets snap there, you want to talk about bad stats. The Jets snap there, 13 game losing streak in September. And if you don't think that this calls for the return of Keith Hanses on this show, you do not pay attention to this podcast. Let's hear from my dad who like the rest of us in Gangrene Nation. We're feeling no pain.

His name is Keith. He's dad's dad No doubt about it He's a big Jets fan What is he going to say About the game today What is he going to say About the game today

I've watched the Jets for over 50 years And I have never seen them win a game Like they did today I've seen many losses Many wins in close games But nothing That was this close When I saw that field goal kicker missed the extra point for Cleveland

and saw the look on his face, I got some excitement that this might be something special. I could not believe Flackler thrown a long touchdown and then getting the onside kick and then driving down the field. It was amazing. Jets. Jets. Jets, Jets. Do you hear, Dad?

Do you hear Keith how happy is? He saw the look at the eyes down 13 with no time. It was over and he, again, I said it last week and I said I want results, not receipts. And dad and some other family members went to Giant Stadium or MetLife Stadium. We got rained on and a blowout. And that's all we're asking for. Just give us, we don't need to win a Super Bowl. We don't even need to make the playoffs.

But throw pepper in some of these games. So it feels like you're a part of a real, you're following a real team. That was a really, really much needed. win for not just the fan base, but for Robert Sala, with the criticism that had been building up around him for Joe Flacco, and really, everybody connected with the Jets. So big win for the Jets, big win for Keith. Love it. All right.

It's beautiful to hear, Keith. He was happy. A smile in his eyes. What's the last time my dad was happy on this show? We've known him for over a decade at this point, and, like, the Jets pain is well chronicled. He's passed it on to you. You've, in theory, passed it on to your children, maybe. And I am very happy for your dad.

He's a true fan. Thank you, Mark. Let's take a break. We'll be right back. All right. Let's move on to the next game as we continue. Great win for the Jets. Let's continue on with another crazy ending.

Maher is set. He has two 50-yard field goals this year. Here comes his kick. It has the distance. It is. Good. The Cowboys win. on a 50-yard field goal at the gun.

Cooper Rush beats the Bengals. Cooper Rush beats the Bengals. What is going on in Cincinnati? The Dallas Cowboys get a desperately needed win in week two, but it did feel that way. 2017 win for the Cowboys over the Bengals who go from AFC champions, the doorstep of the Super Bowl, to an 0-and-2 start here.

So, Mark, what was your vibe on this team, this game? Because it seemed like Cincinnati was taking control and was going to get a much-needed win and they just couldn't close it. Came too late. It was a real mess for Cincinnati out of the gate. I think, I'm not saying the Bengals did this, but it would have been easy to look at a Cooper Rush-led Cowboys offense

and overlook what you saw. And two takeaways for me, and I mean, we can all discuss this one. But the offensive line that was, was much Ballyhooed, and we basically assumed would just be so much better. This Bengals' front office has fixed their final issue to protect their prize asset in Joe Burrow. Six sacks today. He has taken 26 of them over the last five games stretching into the last playoff run.

13 this year, right? 13 this year, and it looks no different to me. He is on the run. I think it creates a few of them himself, but that's because he's just trying to make a play. But to me, it affects the run game. It certainly affects what's happening with their past game. They still gile up some big plays, but the Dallas front, Micah Parsons, especially, was so dominant in this game that it took a long time for Cincinnati,

like last week in Pittsburgh, to get untracked and climb back in. Flipside, Cooper Rush, who looked like a mess against the Bucks, but in his past has had a couple moments for the Cowboys. I thought he played great for how little he's seen, what little practice time he's been with with starters. Because they're so shallow at wide receiver, he's actually had better chemistry than Dak Prescott with. guys like Noah Brown and others.

I mean, there are just a lot of big plays, and he dialed up that game-winning drive at the end. So I don't know what Dallas, I don't know where they'll be a month from now. Who knows? But you've just beaten the defending AFC title team. And if you're the Bengals, you never would have imagined you'd be here at 0 and 2 with the same issues you had a year ago.

I was going to say, we talked about, I know you said it a lot, Mark, on this podcast. Like, why does it feel like entering the season? Cincinnati wasn't getting a lot of respect? And then they've gone out the first two weeks and been like, yeah, you don't need to respect this. because it was a magical January into February and then we show up

and we positively gag away the Pittsburgh game in week one and then you let a Dallas team playing without Deck Prescott beat you in week two and it's just like that is one of the worst two week starts of any team in the league right now. You can make the argument it's the worst. Well, also because it could so easily be two and O

that like they think they're a player two away. The offensive line struggled and yet that wasn't the issue on the final drive When the Bengals defense forced another punt by the Cowboys, it felt like this was going to be another great comeback. It was 173 in this game in the first half. It was 179 at one point in the fourth quarter. And then they get the two-point conversion.

They get the touchdown. They get the ball back. And then they don't do anything. Trayvon Diggs made a great tackle in space on Tyler Boyd that was like a game-winning football play by Trayvon Diggs, who takes a lot of grief by kind of being a gambler. but he's played things a little safer. I think defenses are playing way back on the Bengals the last two weeks,

definitely trying to take away the big play. And you look at the box score, they did not have a play over 20 yards. So not only are they taking all those sacks, and Michael Parsons right now is like on some Lawrence Taylor stuff, five quarterback hits in this game. The first two games of this season, he's built on the best rookie season we've seen in, I don't know how long.

But the Bengals aren't getting big plays, and they're getting sacks. I mean, that's a tough combination. And you can make the case if a defense is playing back or making sure you're not getting beat over the top that there should be more underneath, which would then lead to you be able to get the ball out quick

to guys that are closer to the line of scrimmage and it should still work for Cincinnati. So I'm just, I'm curious why they struggled so much today. They made, they did, he did make plays. I think it's two weeks in a row where you get, you get into a deep hole and you have to try to climb out and the run game stuff. Right. Like last year, when they went and hammered the rest of the AFC North, a lot of it had to do with Joe Mixen, with the ground game, that you'd build a lead, and then the big plays would come more easily.

The best coach in this game was Dan Quinn. I think, honestly, Dallas can win games against anyone with the way that Micah Parsons and the defense is playing. That's such a around the NFL trope. When in doubt, don't credit Mike McCarthy under any circumstances. Or credit Dan Quinn. Remember that superboy you fell in love? McCarthy and Kellan Moore do deserve credit for how they prepared Cooper Rush in this game. I see your overall point. But if you look at what Dan, if you go watch with Dan Quinn's defense, and to your point,

how they went against Cincinnati, the scheme they came up with, and their stars played like stars, it's like their problem three seasons ago or two seasons ago was the defense was a huge mess. Now it's their biggest strength under Dan Quinn. Every win, it feels like a two wins with Rush. If they can just survive until that gets back.

And you get the Giants next week and we'll get to that as the week rolls on. But to peel yourself off the turf after a brutal week one and get the W, the Cowboys, have to be feeling good. You want another banger, another great ending? Sure. There's no end of them. Hey, best reality show on television. That's the NFL.

Can't top it. Let's head across the sidewalk to SoFi Stadium. Marioata has a knee-high snap. Ramseng 5. They hit Marioota. Throw goes up. It is intercepted at the goal line. Jalen Ramsey out to the 20.

out of bounds to the Rams bench. Paul's game in week two for the Rams. Deep exhale for the Rams. The great J.B. Long with the call. Jalen Ramsey picked up Marcus Mariotta in the final minute of regulation

to stop the possibility of an epic collapse of the Rams who hold on for a 31-27 win in their building, their first win of the year after their week. one loss on Thursday night against the Bills. And this was a game, gentlemen, where the Rams were beating the Falcons, 28 to 3. Look at that. And then a series of big plays, a major rally by the Falcons, got this thing tight, got it down, got it down from 283, 2810.

The Rams kick a field goal, get it up to 3110. and then you just got to give Mariotta in the offense and Arthur Smith credit for staying in the game. Then they get a huge block punt for a touchdown, and that's when it got really interesting. But in the end, the Rams got to stop from their big guy, Jalen Ramsey, which was especially nice because Ramsey,

Greg, did not have the best week one against Stefan Diggs and the bills. No, and I know he wasn't on pits this whole game, but when you look at the targets and the yards that Ramsey gave up. I think it was like seven targets. He only gave about 13 yards. It matches up pretty well with Kyle Pitts

who basically got shut down in this game. Two weeks in a row. If you can turn the Falcons into a one-dimensional passing him where it's just Drake London, you're going to have a better chance. And I just think of like, I'd have to go through it, but how many times does it feel like Ramsey ended games? Like it feels like last year for the Rams

and since he's been on this team that he is the guy very often. And it's not the offense that makes the game-winning pass breakup or interception to do it. I mean, I don't know. The Rams come out of here with a win, but I leave concerned in general because they basically no-showed against the bills in a very concerning manner. And our preview show, I think there was debate over whether the Falcons were a real entity or not. And so if they aren't, if they are, they are, but if they aren't, the Rams completely in their streaky nature, look at their first five drives. Touchdown, touchdown,

Interception, Matthew Stafford, touchdown, touchdown. They were answering every question about their opener. It was like, oh, these are the Rams are back and we're going to forgive them week one. Here's how they end it. Interception, field goal,

blocked punt, fumble, and safety. I mean, they really melted. They ran out of gas. Well, the safety is they purposely ran the ball out to run out the clock. It was an epic meltdown. I don't care about the safety, but it's... I just would say, you know,

I watch this game close, and yes, it was not great. It was not great the way the game closed out, but I think maybe they got a little lethargic after building that huge lead and thought they could coast home. But that's an ill quality. Sure, but you know what?

I'm just not going to go crazy and feel like I'm worried about the Rams because the Falcons made this game close. I think more, they were up 283, like I said, in this game, midway through the third quarter, the Falcons to their credit, and this is, and I, they're an entity, but I don't think they're a very good team.

I think they're fiscay. I think they're well-coast. Okay, you guys keep saying that. That's fine. but I'm just saying this was a game that was a blowout that the Falcons deserve credit for making interesting but I'm not coming out of this like the Falcons are actually sneaky good

or the Rams are sneaky bad I think the Rams took care of business but it could have been easier than it was so that's more things for Sean I don't think the Rams are bad or sneaky bad I think they're streaky well and it wasn't surprised me that they're coming out of the gates a little slow

they have a game against the Cardinals last week and rewatching that last play they blitz which is a little different for them they bring Bobby Wagner on a loop being stunt, and it ends up being Aaron Donald, who really pushed his offensive lineman into Marioada's lap. And I was wondering,

oh, that wasn't a bad decision by Marioota to go for that jump ball to Brian Edwards, who's a big guy. He just threw it a little high. And the reason he threw it a little high is because Aaron Donald pushed an offensive lineman right into him as he's throwing it. Big time players. Are you concerned at all about the fact that the

Rams are imbalanced? It's weeks in a row this season, but dating back to last year, where their run game, is not a difference-making unit. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what to say. I don't, I'm not. Well, you see him hands off

and they're concerned about the race. I'm really not concerned about him after watching this game. I think Sean McVeigh has, not doubts, but he wants to run the ball well. That needs to be the foundation of a good Rams offense. They're not a great Rams offense yet, and that's something they're going to want to work on. The brand are 26 times,

so that tells you there's an intention to do it for 2.5 yards per carry. And I'm not trying to come out of this segment. There was also a Brandon Powell carry for negative 26 on a busted play, so that's going to mess with it. But I'm not trying to come out as some sort of alarmist compared to you being completely calm about it. I don't care. I'll see what happens to the Rams.

You seem pretty invested in this. You know what, though? Because it's just like I think. Just take out the game. That's all I'm going to say and let me know how you feel about it. I think Rams fans, like, cannot be loving what the first two weeks of the season. Survive in advance. This whole September, I still am kind of in the vibe that it's kind of the preseason.

I mean, there's a lot of entertainment. There's excitement. You've got to stack some wins, but it's like these teams are going to be so different in November December. Here's the good takeaways, Mark, real quick. Matt Stafford was way better in this game, had two interceptions, was way better. Cooper Cup's still uncoverable.

Alan Robinson, after a terrible week one, got open, made some plays, had a touchdown, had another touchdown. That got waved off because of some Fugazi official whistle blow that blew the play dead. This is a win they got. You know what else we got? Got a nice little performance by the Fox Colorman, a once upon a time young upstart quarterback named Mark Sanchez. What a day for the Jets.

Yeah, a big Jets Sunday. Here's Mark Sanchez. I got two clips of Sanchez who just brought a lot of material into the booth with Kevin Coogler. Let's listen in to the first one. Matthew Stafford off the play fake in the world of Skoronic. You called it Mark Sanchez. Expect to see Skoronik. What do we say about his last name?

Zyrtec like Prylasek. Ask your doctor about Scaronic. Side effects may include, catches in the flat, gains of eight yards. How about that? No. No. No.

And then Sanchez reaches deeper into the bag and he says, now I'm going to bring in some little risque comedy into your living room on a Sunday. Blown open this hole, getting the started center. I mean, Shelton's, he's clearing out defenders faster than a teenager clears his search history on his web browser. Holy smokes. Shelton's all over the place.

Holy smokes. Why is the teenager? Clearing his search history. I didn't really get it. I just thought it was funny. Okay. I think we could figure out why. What does that mean, by the way?

I didn't really get it. I just thought, is somebody writing him this material? That means? What if someone's writing him material? I think he's writing this himself. Right. Why does it need to be a teenager? Why does it, you know, I think adults,

I think clearing your search history, that goes across age lines. Yeah, the teenager was an unfair victim there. But in general, it's all of a society of yours who's, like, corny. and makes bad jokes, but you kind of love them for it. I feel like that's who marks the Sanchez. I'm kind of into the Sanchez broadcasting experience.

I didn't think it was going to go well, to be perfectly honest. But anyway, fun. When is the last time, Greg, that you cleared your search history? Maybe just because you want to keep your computer, you know, optimally running? I couldn't get something to work well. So it was very recent. I would say this week. All right?

It's all gone. It was all gone. Yeah, just furiously clearing that cache at all times. That's when I think about Greg and his laptop. top. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back. So that was the five crazy games that we've seen so far on Sunday. Now let's move to the game that we thought was going to be the big game on Sunday,

but wasn't quite, but still notable. Let's get into it to the Superdome. Good snap to Brady. Brady looking, looking, looking. Those of all, toward the right corner, toward the right corner. It's called touchdown, Tampa Bay. Buccaneers. Perroman. What a throw by Brady and the buck's lead for the first time of the game. It's Jane Daggeroff.

WFUS at the call, yes. Tom Brady started a fight today. It led to the ejections of Marcus Latimore and Mike Evans. But then he threw that go-head touchdown past the Rashad Perryman, and that's all that ultimately mattered because the Buccaneers get a 20 to 10 win over the Saints, a division rival, Gregie, who's had their number in recent years. years had Brady's numbers since he came to Tampa Bay, and while it wasn't a dominating performance by Tom, in actuality, another tablet got tossed.

Oh, he slammed that tablet. They got it done in a big win for Tampa. That was very showy, I thought. A showy tablet throw? Oh, I don't think so. I mean, I understand he was upset, but it's like, we get it at this point. How many quarterbacks have taken the tablet and whizzed it across the room and you've got to go replace the thing for...

I find it notable because we remember the first tablet throw with the Saints, so for it to be now bookended is, you know, he's big on the table throw against. Yeah, he was furious and the body language doctors were out like, uh-oh, it's like Tom Brady's unhappy. It's like giving off negative vibes. I think it's worked for him over the years. It's got a lot going on. Wait, somebody said that he might be quiet quitting, which is a thing right now. Everyone just was like, he's so miserable. He's this and I'm like, this is how he's looked on a football field when things haven't gone well for 20 plus years. But it also came on the same day, Greg,

that Ian Rappaport reported now it's now a permanent thing that he's just not going to be with the team on Wednesdays at all. Okay. There's a lot going on in his life. Can you accept that? That is absolutely true, but I don't think it has anything to do with what happened on the field. What happened on the field today?

He's on the opposite hash when he throws that game winner, what I would call the game winner, to Prashad Perriman. Because at that point, we're just waiting someone make a play in this game. Receivers had a lot of chances. I think Tom Brady threw the ball quite well in this. game. He's on the opposite hash backing up and throws it about 40, 45 yards on a line that throws Paramount open at the last second. That is an elite arm strength throw from Tom Brady. And it reminded me a little bit. The throw was different, but of the over, of the game winner to

Kemprell Tompkins to go steal a game against the Saints about 15 years ago. Like these are the types of plays Tom Brady makes in an absolute. big spot. He makes players like Prasad Paraman better. So like on a day where I was just kind of like waiting, let's someone make a play here, make a play. It was Brady, it was Perriman, and then it was Jamel Dean who made two of the

better interceptions you'll ever see a cornerback make. Yes, it was a bad day for James Winston, but it took two terrific plays by Dean to start the fourth quarter. This was a game, by the way, that was 3-3 in the fourth quarter before they broke it open. And you bring up a great point because

it's very easy, whenever it's the bucks, to just get caught up in Brady land. And you just focus on, how did Brady play? How did he look? What was going on on on with his wife? And you forget about the reason why the Bucks won the Super Bowl two years ago. The reason why they very nearly got back last year is because Brady went to a team that just got a great defense. And Todd Bowles, and by the way, sneaky weird sideline game, Bruce Ariens on the sideline, arguing with officials.

Jason Light hugging people on the sideline at the end of the game. I was worried Arias was going to have a Don Zimmer moment when they had that fight. I was like, get Ariens out of there. Pedro Martinez might run out on the field. Is he decided like he just wants to inject himself back into the head coach slot like a month from now? Maybe he wants to come back. Do you think Tom Brady wants Bruce Aaron's on the sideline? No, I think we know that's not the case.

Six sacks for the bucks, three interceptions, two fumble recoveries. They had a touchdown on a pick six. And Mark, we just talked about it on the Thursday show that one of the reasons why the Saints were a compelling team. They're still a compelling team is because this idea that James Winston has come here. and in the last two seasons and limited time has not been the turnover machine. And yet he threw two very buxie interceptions referring to his time with that team,

including a grizzly pick six, which obviously has been his forte in his career. It's a classic week to flip the switch to the other reality because I thought he played two of his best quarter ever last week against the Falcons. And so I did have a thought that maybe James Winston had turn a corner because of what we saw last year in this offense and the offense was more improved.

But he's a streaky quarterback. I think, again, you're playing a Bucks defense that is going to cause a lot of problems. And he was playing with four fractures in his back. And I know it's like he looked fine, but it's like, we don't know what he's dealing with. He came out of last week. He came out of last week saying that he was hurting all over the place. So, you know, that's the kind of thing you learn about after the season. What Winston was dealing with and why this performance occurred?

His deep throws were terrible. I mean, he was so off. Olave was wide open a couple times deep. he just missed it. Anything down the field, he missed it. Just quickly on that Bowles Assants we've been seeing the time. I think the experience of their coverage unit, the depth and the continuity and the youth, by the way,

of guys like Carlton Davis who had a great game in Winfield and Dean, allows Todd Bowles to mix up so much up front. They blitz the hell out of James Winston and the Saints offensive line today. They threw everything out of them because they trusted the guys in the back end to hold up, and they really did. and they made plays.

It really was a buck's secondary type of win. And let me just say again, it was so weird at one point to look at the screen and see Bruce Ariens basically on the field jawing at an official. This is the former head coach of the team

and now in an advisory role of some kind with the club. Todd Bowles is the head coach. What the hell is the former head coach who, by the way, you don't need to read between the line, got pushed out of that job and you could argue.

Right. by Tom Brady, who came out of retirement after Bruce Ariens went upstairs. Now he's on the field. Maybe that's why Tom threw the tablet. There's one thing. He is essentially Todd Bowles' mentor for his entire career. So they do get along, but I would love to see in general if every team that had a new coach had to have one season where the fired coach got to just walk up and down the sideline

creating his type of chaos. This is not that far from that. Bring Shudzinski back in Cleveland. Oh, by the way, two of the best players in this game, Mike Evans and Mike Evans and Marshawn Lattimore got into a fight and they both got kicked out. It was at that point when for some reason the Bucks took over. I don't think that's a one-to-one thing that happened. But I do like that all of that fight happened because Tom Brady, as always, was kind of moaning to the officials.

And one of the Saints defensive backs walked by him and kind of, you know, made some noise. And then the Bucks got upset, Evans got upset, and that's where it all started. So maybe Brady did that on purpose. Marshon Lattimore should not have been kicked out of that game. No, I agree. and Julio Jones didn't play in this game either or Chris Godwin or Alvin Camara and Mark Ingram

I thought really didn't take advantage of the big holes that the Saints were opening up I know he went 10 for 60 but all I was thinking was man if Camara was in this game he might have broken a few. Is it just me or is it be are we seeing an uptake in an uptick in a wave of like major injury

announcements on Sunday morning? Yeah I think I think there's something contributing to that. On the Thursday show we're talking about how great Julio Jones looked and how great he could be in that offense if he just stays healthy that he's not playing three days later these teams are they're tricky let's move on let's head to the meadowlands another narrow win for a team 340 to go tied at 16 snap is good kick on its way and over end it's got the distance it is good brand good oh connects from 56 yards out and with 334 to go the

giants lead at 1916 oh what a day for New York sports. Judge hits 58 and 59. The Jets come back on the brownies. The G-man! Get the 56-yard field goal from Graham Ganoe, then hold on to beat the Panthers 1916 at the Meta-lands. We now welcome

in a great friend. He's taken, ladies, hands off the merchandise. Nick Shook. Shuky, the New York Giants are 2-0 for the first time since 2016. You buying? I'm not buying necessarily. over the course of the season,

but I'm buying the hype in terms of the excitement. Everybody's excited about Giants football again. Big blue, it's something to look forward to on a Sunday. Brian Dable is down there getting fired up and getting all demonstrative on the sideline. But yeah, no,

it's not entirely snarky. I think they're fun to watch. They're fun to watch. They're fun to watch. A team that maybe turns the corner in the next couple of years with some more talent, but you like what they have in their head coach and you like how they've inspired their teams to turn around

because the Giants have been a disaster. for the last few years with their head coaching changes and just it's just been depressing watching them. They've had an air of just sadness around them. And they are not that this year. They're fun. And they forced turnovers. They forced two today. They played toe to toe with the Panthers. And there was a lot of field goals. And they happened to have the kicker who made it from 50 plus to beat his old team. And that was essentially the difference. Graham Godot Revenge game. And Greg. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Greg, you were saying as we went into the season that the Giants, when you make the case out there, there's some frisky pieces on this offense.

the defense could be a disaster. And so far, that hasn't been the case. No, it hasn't. I'd love to hear from you, Shook, what you thought of their game playing. Because it seems to me that Don Wink Martindale is just kind of throw in the kitchen sink. Like, it's like the underman college team that just tries to win with scheme. And I know they were short Leonard Williams at some point today. And that, like, maybe that's working.

At least it's working when you're playing Baker Mayfield. Yeah, lost Leonard Williams during this game. and they didn't have Kvon Tibado already. So like they get savvy with their scheme. You know, at one point they send Julian Love off a blitz and he kind of hides behind the line, sneaks in there and gets a key sack. It was that type of game for them defensively.

But really what they did is they took a page out of what the Browns did against the Panthers last week and what teams have been doing against Baker Mayfield for the majority of his career, which is bat passes down to line of scrimmage, take away his windows and his viewing angles to see guys downfield, force him out of the pocket, force him to get frantic as he does when he can't see out of the pocket when it's starting to collapse around him and make him speed him

up make him make mistakes i thought the entire game was captured in one play it was third and one in the second half might have even been the fourth quarter where all baker's got to do is complete a ball of the flat he's got his guy at the sticks they can move the chains continue to the drive and because he's under pressure and has been dealing with it for the majority of the day he rips a bullet to the absolute peak of his receiver's catch radius but too high to catch it with a defender right there and they're forced to to pun it away it was actually pretty late there so in the game i I recall now. So you attack him, you force him to make mistakes and pressure him and get him uncomfortable and hope that that pans out for them. And it did for the Giants today. I want to flip

it over to Daniel Jones because imperfect quarterback, we all get that. But I feel like two weeks in a row, I see moments, elements. I love the bootleg to end the game essentially where I think there's an element that Brian Daibald is a quarterback whisper to some degree. I don't know what to agree with Daniel Jones. But it's a better product and there's more healthy players around them, than in years past. But do you think that there's a chance that Daniel Jones can go put together his best season because of the coaching around him? I would say that there is a chance, but the ceiling for that is not as high as you might expect.

Sure. Because some of the play calling with Daniel Jones is still, you know, this is not Josh Allen. And maybe he's trying to work in a little bit of Josh Allen scheme offensively where they, they run a read option and it just gets blown up in the backfield because he's not the same type of athlete. And he gets, you know, Davele and his staff get a little, you know, Mike Kafka get a little overambitious with what they have at quarterback. but I do see a better version of Daniel Jones,

one that's not so contained within a traditional offense or the schemes of past quarterbacks or I mean of bass coaches and instead allowing him to flourish a little bit. That touchdown drive that they had, he throws a touchdown pass to the tight end belliger, his first touchdown of his career. You know, just it was good design, good execution. There are moments where it's like that.

There are also moments where you're reminded that it is Daniel Jones and maybe he's not the most accurate. I see him at the end and that was a scramble. That was that was playmaking. I love that play. Showing off the wheels. That was not a play call. That's twice in a row.

He's had some game-winning plays. And by the way, speaking of icing, they're icing Kenny Goladay. I don't know if they're going to release him or not, but they decided not to play them essentially. Yeah, that's a lot of money.

A lot of invested in the Dave Gettlement era is a messy woman. The Giants are moving forward. And yes, the Panthers have now lost two games to start the season by a total of five points, which you could point to as a positive on some level. But then you remember this is year three for Matt Rule. 11 losses year one,

12 losses year two, and now off to an 0-and-2 start, year three. That seat is going to keep getting warmer. Let's move now, Shuki, to the other game you kept an eye on. And by the way, check out Nick Schutz right up. Who locked that? I did. Oh, so did. Oh, no, I'm there.

And Greg called it a terrible lock, and it really even the standings, because last week I was the only one to miss my lock. And this week, here we go. It's funny how the competition works. It's a great story for you. Greg, yeah, you kind of were dunking on Graver, so he's right. He deserves a little pop there. Absolutely.

I'm sure if he had lost that game, he would not have let us know the result, but it's fine. All right. So now, check out all Shook's write-ups. He does great work in NFL.com covering games. He's helping us out, as you know, every Sunday. Another game he was tracking Mile High Stadium. Very weird vibes in Mile High. Let's get to it.

Play fake for Russ. He looks. close one. He wants Sobert. Sobert is there. He makes the catch. Touchdown, Denver. Eric Sobert, his first catch of the season. Dave Logan with a call, K-O-A. Yeah, we've been trying to figure out how do the Broncos get their offense

clicking in the red zone? And then we remember, Doy, Eric Sobert. Throw it to Eric Sobert, who had the touch. touchdown catch and it was it was what the Broncos needed desperately and Russell Wilson desperately needed and desperately needed for Nathaniel Hackett perhaps most of all the head coach of the Broncos a 16-9 win shookie before I bring you in on this I do have in my hand and please feel free to add to it because I know you were tracking this well I saw your tweets I call it the Hackett file and the Hackett file has all the bad stuff that

that's going on with the Broncos. So before we get to the good stuff, we can't not talk about what was going on in that building. The Hackett file for week two. And of course, we know what happened in week one on the end of the game against Seattle. And Hackett took the blame there, kind of. In this game, he had a fourth and two

in the third quarter, sends the field cold team out late. Brandon McManus makes the field goal, but the play clock expired, flag, delay of game. They have to punt it away. Fourth quarter, 955 to play. This is the Hackett file if you're just tuning in. 9.55 to play. They force a punt, the Broncos defense, but no returners on the field for Denver.

So they have to burn a second timeout in a close game to get a punt returner back. Then they burn their final timeout. Wow. To avoid a delay of game penalty on what? Let's say to the same time, Shook. Second and 16. Six. And then finally, 13 penalties for over 100 yards in this game.

after 12 penalties in week one. That is 25 penalties in two weeks. And now I throw it to you, Shok, because despite all that, they got to win. But my goodness. Yeah, Dan, you have a card. You're going to need many cards with the way this is trending this season. It's something that it's going to be kind of fun and intriguing to track

because it's both hilarious and also fascinating because how low can a coach Stoop in his first year in terms of performance? Because, I mean, we can, you know, Mark can attest to this. Freddie Kitchens love the guy personally, but did not have a, a great single season as a head coach, Nathaniel Hackett is blowing him out of the water in terms of how bad you could be as a rookie head coach when it comes to decision making during a game. It's not as if, you know, they're just committing penalties or they're just struggling to get the play in. But he's struggling to make basic decisions when it comes to clock management, situational

personnel being out there. It basically spans the entire spectrum of this. It's, it's incredible to the point that Broncos fans felt it was necessary to start counting down the play clock for the Broncos offense every play. Loudly shook. It doesn't get worse than that. It doesn't get worse than that. We're in week two, and we already have booze

directed at Russell Wilson, which is about as amazing a development as one would have imagined two months ago. I mean, I don't think it's at Russell Wilson. There were some. I mean, it's the offense in general, the play call. It's more at hackney.

I think there was a lot of, I think, and Shook, correct me if I'm wrong on this one, in your opinion. There was a lot of frustration built up from everything that transpired on Monday night last week. And then for the team to come out and it again looks sloppy and not quite prepared. I think Wilson is tied in with that and their struggles in the red zone continued. That's part of it. But I think it's more this idea that Broncos fans are suspicious about this regime early on. Yeah, it actually really does remind me of the 2019 season in Cleveland because it's kind of the same thing.

Offseason moves, build all this optimism. and then they failed to produce and they look like a disorganized mess on the field for the majority of the season. That's what these Broncos look like. You traded for Russell Wilson. You expect to be competitive in a very competitive division and you can't get the basics of football down.

So while they won this game, I'm telling you guys right now, and this is no huge knock on Houston. We know who they are as a football team. If they were playing, I don't know, 28 of the other teams, the NFL, they probably lose this game. They shot themselves in the foot that many times.

And you can't do that over the course of the season, especially not in this division. I hear you, but it has to be. that you outgained your opponent significantly for the second straight week. Now, yeah, you might have played two of the least explosive offenses in the NFL when it comes down to it. But they've controlled these two games. So this is sort of where I'm getting back to September's preseason. Like, they just need to get through this patch, even if it's at two and two.

And, like, I would expect these sort of issues will be cleaned up by November and December. This is different than the Rams working their way through September because the problem here is, like, to your point, with Freddie Kitchens and other first year coaches where they seem underwater is that the coaching decisions are getting in the way and becoming massive narratives that we have to talk about. That's not what you were hoping from with Nathaniel Hackett and his exciting press conferences during the summer. Yeah, and you can win and lose games in those situations, guys. And you can especially win and lose games when you're in goal-to-go situation and you don't

know to hand the ball to one of your two good running backs. I mean, it's first and ten, they throw the ball, or first in goal, they throw the ball, don't get there. second and goal from the five, four-yard game by Javante Williams. What do they do on third and goal from the one? They attempt to throw it again. I mean, this is part of the frustration. Their issue is a goal-to-go situation.

So that's got to be cleaned up too, and that's situational decisions. Just quickly, the worst thing that happened, I think, for them was Jerry, Judy and Pat Sertan both left and did not return to their very best players. Shoulder injury. So you've got to check in on their status as this week goes on. And yes, the fact that they got Houston to work through their stuff right now and get the W, this would have been a very different scene. If another loss, there'd be the talk of the NFL in a bad way after this game.

So fortunate for Denver. They get it done. Shook, you always get it done. Thank you, my friend. Let us take a break, and we'll be right back. All right, we're back. Let's move on. Here's a play action by Garapolo.

Looks left going to throw wide open, Ross Dwellie. He'll take it five. Ross Twelie will dive for the end zone. Touchdown. San, friend. Cisco, welcome back, Jimmy Garapolo. Jimmy Garapolo? What's going on here?

Greg Papa with the call, KNBR, yes. It was Jimmy G to Ross Dewelli for 38 yards and the score in a 27-7 lapper over. The Seahawks, because Trey Lance is no more in 2022. Unbelievable, he suffers a lower leg injury. broken right ankle on the second drive of the game, the 22-year-old's second season is already over. Let's hear from Kyle Shanahan, who obviously was extremely disappointed with how things went down. It's tough. It was, you feel for someone so bad. It's a sad moment, but you don't

have time to sit there and think about it. You've got to get right back to the game, and I thought the guys did a real good job of that, but we were real happy about the win, but it was a little sombering once you get in the locker room and you see them. and stuff so so shanahan the whole idea of the niners set up here um Greg was for tray lance to take this offense and take it to a higher place than jimmy gropolo was already able to take it and now here we are it's almost surreal it's jimmy g asked now to get them back to the super bowl unreal it's like five yeah five quarters in we're right back to 2021 and you hurt for Tray Lance, and you hear the frustration in Kyle Shanahan's voice because it is football.

You know, it's QB power. Now, do you run like a power running scheme with many quarterbacks? No. And I think last week there were sometimes, Tray Lance has been worried because he's running plays like Josh Allen and Cam Newton. I think run, the play that he got hurt on, as Shanahan just said, he could have handed it off. to the running back, who was going wide on the game, he decided not to. I don't know if it was the right read, really, because he didn't have much in front of him.

But it's just bad luck. He takes a bad hit, and their team is going to change so much, and yet you don't get the feeling that their expectations should change. Like, they dramatically changed even within this game, who they were, but they didn't dramatically change. every facet of this game. Before Lance left, they had run 15 plays. They had called three passes. And those three passes were effective, by the way. He's going for 10 yards per throw.

But they're running up and down the field with Lance being a huge part of that running game and the threat of him running being a huge part of it. And Debo Samuel having some early runs. And they're going up and down the field. Then Jimmy Garapolo comes in, and it's just steady as she goes. It's calling about equal runs and passes,

moving the ball like they wanted. to and icing this game easily. So they're a totally different team and yet they're still a Super Bowl contender and I'm not sure like I can think of an exact analog to that in recent NFL history where your quarterback changes

but it's like okay I think they're going to be about the same. Right, it's its own unique situation. How about Nick Foles? Yeah, but you would never have thought that at the time. In fact, we got into a huge argument on this very podcast with Wes trying to say like, you know,

Does this team even have a hope of being competitive when you get to the playoffs? You're right. It ended up that way. I just mean they're going to be different. It's going to look so different. But the fact that Jimmy G can go in there. And as Shanahan told the sideline reporter, Christina Pink, like, we didn't need to, they changed their playbook entirely.

They just ripped it up. But they have four years with this guy and they can just call in all those plays. That's the thing. Like, I mean, I can see how emotional Shanahan is because they've been on this journey with Tray Lance. And there was a lot of work put in. into it and a lot of having a comment on it, invested. But I would imagine that the vast majority of the offensive roster simply feels more comfort with Jimmy G in there.

I mean, there's at least a lot of, you know what you're getting, and it almost was like the offense returned to what it needed to be. This is a dominant team. For the 49ers, beyond the traumatic nature of losing trail lanes. I don't know about what it needed to be, because to me, they're off. I mean, he had two drives today. I don't think he played poorly last week either. We'll never know.

It'll be another year of not knowing. We won't know. And so I guess that's, you're right, it's an unfilled space. But, I mean, I just find it strange that we spent, I think I said on this show like 35 times that perhaps the way that Jimmy G winds up starting somewhere else is that a quarterback injury of high nature occurs on another team. In the end, you know, quarters into the season, it happened to the Niners itself. Is that irony?

Well, I mean, it wasn't what I was predicting. Is that irony that it ended up? I think a little bit. In San Francisco. And it's, that definition is broad. For the Niners, as bad as unfortunate today's events are, that their season's not over right now. Because if they trade Jimmy G to Charlotte or Seattle or whatever,

and they have some Sudfeld or whatever, the season's over. They gave him $2 million guaranteed. If he had a better camp, they might have gotten rid of Jimmy G. But they didn't. They didn't. The season is over, and yet it is not over. They have a chance, but still a big bummer. All right.

And on the game side of things, Greg, what did you see? I know it seems like the Gino Sants took on a little bit of water in week two. Tough situation for Gino. The only seven points they scored were on a return of a blocked field goal. Geno's numbers, though, not bad. 24 for 3197. They were overmatched.

How many points by the offense in the last six quarters? Zero points. Okay. If you're a Seahawks fan, this was like your worst fear is coming true in all. They seem so overmatched in every matchup. run defense, past defense. Anytime they threw a ball up in a one-on-one situation, it was a penalty.

It could have been like 40 to zero. It was that one-sided. When 49ers put Bosa, Armstead, Omenahoo, and Drake Jackson on the field together, who are all pass-rushers, it's like their NASCAR pass. It was like lights out. There was not literally one area of the game

where the C-Ox looked competitive. All right, so you had your Monday night frolic with Gino, last week. It's one week, and he didn't play that bad today. Just hold on a second. Do you see on any level? Because I think Gino played well in that game,

and I think he's a fair enough quarterback where you can win some games with him. But, I mean, it's a patch. Do you not feel to some degree that there's a real ceiling with the whole offense with the way they're constructed? Right now. They're going to need to improve.

I mean, I've never said anything other than he's sort of that mid-level quarterback that's going to rise and fall. Well, you've said some other things. A worst-case scenario. Right, because that's not, we're not getting mid-level, play after the first half a week one that's all i actually think if if you want like

pf f f'll grade i'm fine in this game now that that means everything the whole offense at least this was not uh this i'm worried because the defense also looks so overmatched the last couple maybe we don't have dj dallas looking totally frazzled on a fullback option pass into the end zone that gets picked off all right let us now move on to ford field golf's back washington brings the pressure golf throws it is complete the swift falls down gets back up and runs inside the tent oh my goodness are you kidding me to the house touchdown Detroit lions from the seat of his pants to the end zone love it dan miller with a call w x y t it took till week 13 for the lines to win their first game in 2021 this year they got out of the way early

d'andre swift found the end zone jarred goff through two of his four touchdown passes to Amon Ross St. Brown. Aidan Hutchinson, the number two overall pick, had three sacks, added up 3627. Lions over the commanders. Gregi, I could feel it. A little juice coming from Greg World watching the Lions play today. Yeah, it's fun to have a fun Lions team. This was like a gross way to explain that. Yeah, I don't know about juice in Greg's World. But this was clear your history. This was like a coaching game on both sides. Like this was coaching. dominance, I think, on both sides of the ball. The Lions' defense got after and totally confused

Wentz and the commanders early. They didn't have a first down for their first five drives. Meanwhile, like their aggressiveness, Detroit's on offense, I was really taken by. There was a drive at 22 to nothing late in the first half where they threw it three straight times. Didn't work at all. It was under a minute left,

but most coaches would have played it conservatively there. having Goff throw bombs, and I'm like, this is a different Dan Campbell. Then in the second half, it's 22 to 15. The commanders are making a comeback, and you get the ball to Amman Rae St. Brown on an end around. You get the ball to D'Andre Swift, who had a touchdown where he fell down and then gets back up. Like Amon Rae St. Brown had, what, 174 yards in this game?

Swift had 87 on only seven touches. They have legit playmakers, and every time Went, to make a comeback, the Lions immediately went down the field with the balls to the wall offense and did not let Washington totally get back into it. They're scoring points in the two weeks so far. Yeah, well, so they've put up 35 plus points in three straight games for the first time since 1952, 1953. I mean, that's how long it's been for the Lions.

I think they're creative. I mean, one was against like the Packers backups or some nonsense, right, in week 18. All right. But this season, I think they show great power. And it happens in spurts. And that's the kind of thing where it's like they're going to be hanging around deep into this season. I just feel that way about them. I think they're well-coached.

I feel power. They have a great coaching staff. And I just, I don't know, they're fun to watch. I was saying to Dan, I think, you know, early on in this game, when they had 241 yards to 27 for bumbling and stumbling Washington, who obviously came back into it with Carson Wentz, they're one of the more enjoyable teams to watch in the league. after two weeks. That's good, yeah, because that's what we've talked about. That's why people enjoyed watching them last year.

It's why people enjoyed watching them on our hard knocks. That's why we've enjoyed them from two weeks through two weeks this season. But Greg, they got to win games. They can't just be the feel good guys that are always close. And Campbell said that as much last week after the narrow loss to Philadelphia. So this was nice. This is important. Winning early is super important for this organization.

And if you're a Lions fan, you're filled with excitement when you get ready for week. three because you're in the mix now. You're a real team. Also because these guys are going to be around. And I don't just mean Amman Rae St. Brown or Swift, who was hurt. He had an ankle injury and he still ends up going for more than 10 yards per touch. I mean the coaching staff. I thought their coaches gave them real schematic advantages on both sides of the ball. I still have major questions about their defense. I mean, they were missing three starting offensive linemen in Detroit. They were missing their best cornerback. But they got it done. in the end.

Aiden Hutchinson gets three sacks on the day, by the way. I said that. Nice little day. In the first half, by the way. And they kind of were weird sacks, to be fair. Kind of where Wents goes too far back and a cleanup play and another on a stunt. But the hustle was there and the effort from this defense, they're going to give up points. But as long as they keep scoring like this, they'll be fine.

All right. You attempted to disown the Patriots on a live program in front of Morris Jones-Drew. But they are your favorite team, Greg. You'll always love them. and they played a football game today. Do you want to talk about it? I don't have much to say on this, but I'm looking forward to hearing it from Mark.

All right, let's hit it to Heinzfield, or whatever it is now. I can't keep track of these things. Jones takes the snap on three down and three. It will always be hinds to me. Dats is in the pocket, throws a long ball right, with some contact down. Cut it.

Signed to five. And in for the score, Aguilor. Touchdown, Patriots. There you go. Somebody make a play, and it's Nelson Aguilar on a jump ball here. Jones fills it. It's one-on-one, but Aguilor elevates and climbs the back of the defender.

That's a terrific catch, sensationally done by Nelson Aguilar. That's Bob Sochi and a sentient blue raspberry powerade on the call for WBZ. The New England Patriots, off the mat. Thanks to Mack Jones connecting with Nelson Aguilar on that touchdown, the only touchdown, or the touchdown the Patriots needed to finish off the Steelers, 17 to 14. Mark, yeah, and a Sunday filled with great games. This one from afar didn't seem like to have a lot of sizzle. How did it feel watching it?

Right. I think if, you know, Ravens Dolphins gave us something we weren't expecting. Cardinals, Raiders gave us something we weren't expecting. There were five other games like that. I thought this played out the way that most people would think that it did. Two struggling offenses, attempting to find their footing. I think it helped the Patriots a lot that T.J. Watt was not in there. Their offensive line, if you want to take a positive away, towards the end of the game,

Damien Harris, Damien Harris, Ramandri Stevenson, they put the game on their back and just basically closed it out. Behind an offensive line that blocked pretty well in the run, gave Mack Jones time to throw. Mac Jones was sort of all over the map, but showed good chemistry with Jacoby Myers. You saw the play with Nelson Aguilar. You see it a little bit. I just think it's very streaky, and the same applies to the Steelers, which we expected.

Mitch Trubisky, to me, I mean, there were moments where whatever the name of the stadium is, Acresher, I believe. Booze were raining down. Kenny Pickett. They were calling for Kenny Pickett, and their offense is very, very limited. I don't think that they believe that they can be aggressive with Mitch Trubisky back there. So you're going to get games like this all year long. Without T.J. Watt, you're going to probably be on the lower side of it. That was my question to you.

How many CBS cutaways to Kenny Pickett on the sideline did we see? Did he ever, was he throwing footballs at any point? Where are we at? What was the, does it feel like this is something that could become a conversation? Because let me look at the team sets. It's a Thursday night game this week. All right. So that would make sense.

Not today. They had a sub 300 yards last week in their win over Cincinnati. This time, 243 total yards. So they're just not moving the ball. And Trubisky was 5.1 yards per attempt. He gives you stuff with his legs. We get that. You know, he isn't a complete disaster, but it's just extremely limited.

You just can't run a full offense with him. And I don't think they trust him to. But I, you know, all. If his first read's taken away, he checks it down. Right. And there's tons of track. It was like, it's Pat Fryermuth or bust. Although Deontay Johnson, they do have a good connection.

Deontay Johnson was awesome in this game. And he was good last week, too. But good in a way where like he's making mid-range catches versus deep down the field doing other stuff he could do. So I think with both of them, there's a long way to go when it comes to your attack and what you can expect each week. All right.

Are we good to move on? Do you have anything at there? No, I'm ready to move on to the next affair. Let's head to Duval, where the Colts, certainly we're going to get off the Schneide and shake that ugly narrative about their inability to beat the Jaguars. Obviously, let's listen in.

Of course. 22 seconds of playing the third. Trevor under center. Play fake. Trevor's going to run to the right. He's going to toss into Christian Kirk for the touchdown. Touchdown pass from Trevor Lawrence to Christian Kirk. Frank Frangy, WOKV.

Trevor Lawrence threw two touchdown passes to Christian Kirk. You heard one of them there. Matt Ryan, nowhere to go, nothing to do. And the Colts missing some key players are shut out. 24. Zip. That's eight straight home wins for the Jaguars against the Colts, which seems impossible. Gravedigger, you had your eyes on this game for us.

I was, you know, it was a very busy day, a lot going on. And when we're putting the show together, I just assumed, I knew the Jaguars won and it wasn't particularly close. But I figured it was like 24 to 10, 24-7, maybe 24-9. To see that the Colts didn't score a point on Sunday, that is a major. Red flag in Indianapolis, right? It certainly is. The Colts do not look like a good football team right now. This was not a case of Jacksonville forcing, I mean, they did force a bunch of turnovers,

but it wasn't like the Colts are moving the ball all game long, and then some fluke play happens and Jacksonville takes over. It was the Colts had, I think they had three straight three in outs after their first drive, which was a productive drive, and then Matt Ryan makes a terrible decision to throw a deep crosser, didn't see the safety lurking who came up and picked him off. And then they had three straight three in outs, followed by a five in out to end the first half. Matt Ryan sacked three times in the first half. This game was pretty much over at halftime.

And Jacksonville came out to start the second half and scored another touchdown to make it 24-0. From there, they kind of like went into a bit of a shell just to try to bleed the clock out. And on defense, they let the Colts kind of start driving, backing up, not allowing anything over the top. Colts go down and have in the fourth quarter two chances from fourth and goal, two separate drives, fail to convert on both of them. At that point, the game's pretty much over. Matt Ryan in desperation mode throws two more horrible interceptions. One of them he was hit on and was tipped.

But that Jacksonville defensive line was harassing Matt Ryan all day. A lot of it was Matt Ryan standing there waiting for his receivers to get open. And you do have to wonder how different it would be if Michael Pittman had played. But I don't think Michael Pittman is a 24 point difference here. So, no, they're so limited at wide receiver with Michael Pittman. They also were missing Alec Pierce. So they're two starting wide receivers are out of this game, but it's not a good sign when that means Ashton Doolan is your number one

and that you can't, like, possibly recover from missing a couple of receivers. It's been a tough couple weeks for Ryan. Ryan was worse upon reflection and rewatching in that Texans game, too. Can I ask you a question? Because we've been waiting for the Trevor Lawrence game. And I didn't watch this one closely, but 25 for 30 for two touchdowns, 235 yards. That doesn't include the mistakes we've seen and the misfires in most of his starts. Did it look like a different situation?

It did. Lawrence was really decisive. He was getting the ball out quick. The Colts were running a lot of zone, and Lawrence was just taking what they were giving him underneath. The Jaguars only had three plays over 20 yards in this game. One of them was on a first and 20. Lawrence rolled out and hit Christian Kirk on a really nice pass. he had a couple of plays rolling to his left, delivering a really nice across the body throw.

But mostly it was just kind of this dink and dunk, take what the defense give you, pick up yards after catch. And it's crazy because the Jaguars average 4.9 yards per play. The Colts averaged 4.5 yards per play. I mean, it wasn't like they were just hitting explosives all over the Colts defense, but the Jags ran 67 plays to 48 for the Colts. And where Lawrence was really impressive was on third down in the first half. He was 14 for 17 in the first half on third down.

He was 6 of 7 for 47 yards and converted 5 of 8 third downs the Jaguars did in the first half. That also means they were 0 for 8 on third down in the second half. Yeah, in the second half they did a lot of run, run pass, bleed out the clock kind of stuff or like short pass short pass punt. But this will be. It was impressive. This game will be a major test for the people inside our company that handled a condensed together. game. It's called, I think, Game in 40. Yeah.

This needs to come in at 31, 32 tops. I could not agree more with you. It cannot come in at 40. It's an acid test. It's crazy, too, because this was so one-sided in week 18. Greg, it cannot come anything higher. Here's the thing. I don't, it's, there were some erratic editing on those game in 40s last week. They were making a meal out of Bears 49ers. That's week one. It's their preseason two, Greg.

What I was going to say is like mostly the length of that is not up to the editors. It's just kind of how many plays there are in that game. It's not like you can get rid of the plays. Especially in this game, the way Graver is explaining it. There are games with way less plays than others. The Jaguars aren't trying to score basically in the second half. And the cults can't score. We should be able to knock out that second half in seven, eight minutes, I would imagine.

Let's try. For the sake of our imagination and our interest in this sport, I think. Like any play that is, you know, not notable for a loss or is less than a two-yard gain, just wipe it. No one's going to miss it. No one's going to be like, where is that one-yard Jonathan Taylor run in the third quarter? Jonathan Taylor finished the first half with five carries for four yards. They really bottled him up.

That's great. I mean... It's great job, Indy. The second half didn't matter. I don't think they're that talented. You know, when you take away Shaq Leonard and Michael Pittman, of course, you're less talented, but I just, I think you're, I don't think they're as talented. And that, in that signing that we all kind of made fun of, or, you know, everyone had had that fun with that Christian Kirk signing.

You know who's not laughing? Anyone that drafted Christian Kirk in the middle of your fantasy drafts, he's lighting up the scoreboard back-to-back weeks. Or they are laughing because it's enjoyable. Right, well, that's a fun laugh. All right, let's finish it up with some Sunday night football. What's that? Sorry, I forgot to play that while we were doing Colts Jags.

The Wessling Bros. Locked up the Colts. Oh, ooh. That did not go well. You get two losses for that. Yeah. Committee fail. Is it worse to lock a team that is non-competitive gets shut out by the Jaguars or to lock up a team that blows a huge lead?

They both are not great feelings. But I'm sure the Cincinnati Zoo, they've closed the gates and they're like huddled up trying to figure this thing out. You'd have to say that what they did suggests that they came in with a lot of analysis, a lot of viewpoints about how the game would go and it went horribly wrong. In our cases, all three of us, we lost on heartbreakers, you know, if a few things went differently, we'd be shining bright. No, I think if your lock gets shut out against the team

that's had the number one overall draft picking back-to-back years, you're actually, you get two losses. I was going to say you're out for the year. I could see you were going there. I love these guys. I think they're a great part of the show, so I don't want to lose them. It's a pricked out in the system. Is that the first shutout?

Is that the first shutout of the season? Certainly maybe the first, it might be the first shutout of a team that was locked for a victory. Yeah, I can't recall. History made. in Ohio. Let's hit Sunday night football. Oh, Sunday night.

Killed him. We're just going to. And he is short. No touchdown. And there is your dagger. The Packers defense has stood at the one yard line. Great call. Wayne Larravee, W.R.

just when it looked like the Chicago Bears might go and make a game of their matchup with the Packers at Lambeau Field. Green Bay got the stop, added a field goal, salted it away. Final score 2710. Packers over Bears. Green Bay gets their first win of the season. The Bears fall to one in one. Mark, it's a little annoying that after such an amazing Sunday a Sunday game, you get the now standard Packers Bears game and it's just like, it's another one of them.

Can I hear that sad horn again? Look at Mark asking for sound like that. You know who got banged here? Who's that? Well, the viewer. Yeah. Because like you said, this was a Titanic week two and this feels to me just from general memory

like a right of passage early in the season that most of us as fans must be essentially Indoor. Drag through. Right. A portal to nowhere because, yes, it's not on any level surprising that the Packers got right here or that the Bears struggled once again having to play a primetime game early in the year in Green Bay. This setup seems like it occurs annually.

Right. There was that the 100th season of football. Remember, they had to start the season with Packers Bears. But they didn't have to. No. And we don't have to watch these teams play every year in primetime. Why? The logic is.

like get the national big bears audience early while they're supposedly frisky, but this is just a talent poor team. And they threw the ball 11 times. I know there's some situational explanation of this. And they have run the ball well through two weeks. If you're looking for some positives, their defense has been competitive. Sure. They threw the ball 11 times today. You're just, it's not going to, it's not going to work in 2022. Come on. Aaron Jones went off in this game for 132 yards. Average nearly nine yards of carry with a touchdown, A.J. Dillon. You know, I've said that I think that Nick Chubb and Cream Hunter,

the best one-two punch in football in the backfield. You certainly can make a case for Green Bay. And this is a reminder after last week's disappointment against the Vikings that the Packers are a very balanced team. The defense, obviously, you know, this wasn't that big a challenge against the Bears, but they got the job done, including in money time. And it was very close. Justin Fields came within inches of crossing the goal line.

It was ruled a stop on the fourth down midway through the fourth quarter. And there just wasn't enough to overturn it. It was that close to 2417. But I never felt even if that happened, like this game was going to end with the Bears finding way to win, just because you got the feeling Green Bay was doing the old Milton Burrell, show what they need to show just to get through the game. But then again, this is a wild Sunday.

it just didn't get wild here. Well, that was the turning point. I mean, I give the Bears credit for after a first half where they had a 71-year touchdown drive, obviously, to open the game. Then their next five drives compiled 10 yards. That's the taste that I mentioned, that they seemed out of sorts.

They're doing flea-flickers just to get like a 15-yard out. Right. They're trying to back themselves, get out of a corner. But they do have a good run game. David Montgomery, you know, he looks good. Kalee Herbert's good. Maybe they've got to find a, a way to wins games like this, but they're certainly playing

around Justin Fields. Like he barely threw the ball against the Niners, and I understand that was a weather element, but there was no weather element here and they did the same thing. Darno Mooney has four yards on the season after having negative four yards today. He had eight

in the first game. We should give some credit though to Aaron Rogers, who I think moved really well. That was my takeaway watching their offense. Elkton Jenkins was back, which was nice for them. You mentioned Aaron Jones, who to me just as a pure runner, I was thinking about West because he was so early on Aaron Jones, just like how this kid is a special runner. And I think just pure running, he's

a top five guy right now, just bouncing off dudes in the speed and the vision, it's all great. But I thought Aaron Rogers moved pretty well in this game, that he was making a couple plays with his legs, not just the called run, but moving up in the pocket on that throw to Cobb in the first half, it just felt like he's moving well. And that, that's, that's, that's, that's, That's encouraging because I think you kind of need that as you get through the season moving in the pocket. It's interesting, too, because A.J. Dillon out touched Aaron Jones in this game in the running game. And the same thing happened in week one. Week one was a little different.

But Jones still goes 15 for 132. So it's more just like, wow. If you can and Aaron Jones has had issues at times staying healthy. So this is perfect. This is the way they should handle this, even if we'll frustrate some fantasy owners because Dylan is special too. So, you know, on the bear side of it, I know Bears fans are puffing out there. chess after the Niners win last week, and then we try to diffuse it and talked about the weather and how that really could not be overlooked. This is going to be the challenge for the Bears.

It's, I think, scoring points. But Fields does show he nearly had a touchdown before that fourth down stop where he reached up. He's such a dynamic athlete. He's fun to watch. I think we're going to continue to see fun, exciting plays from Fields. It's just so much on his shoulders. Even with David Montgomery is a really good number one way back. Also, I mean, the Bears, made it clear as much as any team in the league that this year is a do what you can. They have massive cap space a year from now. I think the front office and a new coaching staff can put their plan in a place. We've all heard that before, though.

That's the thing. It's got to work. But I think Fields does give you something each game that's attractive, but they don't put together full games on offense. I get it. You just need to start showing some progress. He's taking a step back in terms of the passing game. You had the weather last week, certainly. But he was doing some things throwing the ball at the end of the last year.

We need to see that again. the Texans next week. There you go. That's very winnable. The old Zeus is putting together the power rankings as I'm watching the end of this game. And I'm going to have Texans very near the bottom of that list. Go get a W Chicago. Get two out of three to start the year.

All right. That's it. There's your Sunday night recap. A very fun Sunday of week two. Next time you hear from around the NFL will be tomorrow night. Greg Rosenthal on the double header of two games you're going to be recapping with none other than. We got Arif Asan. O'Rifahsan.

Long-time Vikings writers moved into a national role. Right. And he's got to be doing the Eagles game. Another Arifesan plug of his new gig. I don't know. Why not? Multiple national rules.

How many plugs of things in your life from Greg in the last couple of shows? No more. No. Well, now there's one. That was the first, the first mention. You're getting 10% of Arif and his new gig here? I don't know. It just happened to happen this week.

We've also got a Titans expert, Justin Grave. on the show. Oh, very good. Always. That's a billing. And remember, a week from Sunday, the heroes get on an airplane and we head to London. And the around the NFL live show is, and by the way, a little help guys. If the old Zeusers trying to plug the live show and I'm saying the date wrong, anybody, anybody say, you know, Dan, actually it's not, you know, the 25th or the 26, whatever you're saying.

Have we been getting it wrong? You've been getting it wrong? If you're looking at me to keep a calendar, you've got big issues. I mean, just I'm looking for a little help. When is the live show? Thursday the 29th. Thank you. Thursday, September 29th.

25 pound tickets in the balcony. We got those for you. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a crazy night. It's going to be one of the biggest nights and around the NFL history. So make sure you're there and we'll try our best to put on a good show. Yes, Monday night recaps. Then you'll hear from the group and Colleen on Tuesday.

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