NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2023 Week 10 Recap

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

In a room full of heroes - Dan Hanzus and Gregg Rosenthal recap Week 10 of the 2203 NFL season. The heroes start the show by discussing the Texans making noise in the AFC with a big win against the Bengals (02:09), the Vikings starting the Team of ATN era with a win against the Saints (09:45), and the Lions winning a shootout against the Chargers (17:45). The heroes then run through Browns at Ravens (27:45), Commanders at Seahawks (37:56), and Titans at Buccaneers (43:02) with Nick Shook. The show is wrapped up with Packers at Steelers (48:05), 49ers at Jaguars (54:28), Falcons at Cardinals (01:02:19), Giants at Cowboys (01:08:51), Colts versus Patriots in Germany (01:14:58) and finally Jets at Raiders (01:22:40).  Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast. Likes to pop their color and rock a visor. Never. From the Chris Wesleying podcast studio, it's Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis. Got just one hero with me today. It's Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, under the weather.

Hopefully back with us during the week. Greg, never wore a visor under any circumstances, even in the darkest of my bro days, never a visor. I think I had a little two-lane visor that I would pop maybe when I'd go golfing in college at the city courses. That's about it, though. This is the, I want a photo of that. This is the week 10, double digits flagship program and, you know,

one theme that was starting to come together. I want to say narrative, but narrative has been turned into this pejorative, which I don't like because it's being abused. So why am I going away from it? Because then they win. But I'm going to stick with it and say a theme that had been coming together a little bit as the defenses having their way more often than not in 2023. This week was an exception.

Eight teams, Gregi, today scored at least 29 points. 10 scored at least 27 we had a near 50 burger we had multiple shootouts uh good stuff we had for the first time ever five game winning field goals on the same day whoa that's pretty crazy it's a it's a it's a pretty crazy sunday uh we weren't necessarily expecting there's some there's some good matchups but a lot a lot of good game winning field goals i clocked that there were a lot. In fact, at one point, I think we changed one of our highlights because it just seemed to me there was too many game-winning 31-yarders. But still, that tells you the quality of the games today. So we're going to go through them all with Nick Shook joining us a little bit later.

Let us start where we must start in Cincinnati, where the Cincinnati bangles are looking to keep it rolling with Joe Burrow. But CJ Stroud, he said, uh-uh, I'm the new guy around here. I'm the bad guy john weeks will snap cameron johnston will hold 38 yard field goal attempt from the left mark for the victory for matt amandola here's the snap here's the spot here's the kick plenty of leg and there's one it's good the texans walk off with a win yes Cincinnati oh man they take it 30 to 27 mad amandola at the buzzer yeah It happens every year. Around this time of year, too, I feel like, where the stakes start building.

There will be the color guy in the booth who just gets so caught up in the moment. He is no longer a paid employee. He's just a dude yelling, yeah, because he's happy the team he was rooting for was victorious. In this case, yes, the Texans who get a 38-yarder from Matt Amandola at the gun to beat the Cincinnati Bengals 30 to 27. a game in which Greg C.J. Stroud, I thought, outplayed Joe Burrow, which is very notable. And then you think about who Joe Burrow is, one of the greatest quarterbacks in the league. And Stroud now has kind of put a stamp on it, Greg, that he is the most exciting quarterback to enter the league since Burrow did a few years back. So this could be the first of many big time showdowns between these guys.

And I hope they deliver as many classics as this. And it's the start of the Stroud MVP, quote-unquote, conversation. We got eight weeks here. But he's in the mix leading one of the best offenses in the league over the last couple of weeks. And to win this game coming off Cincinnati's two-week run where everyone left it saying, wow, the Bengals, they might beat five and three, but they also might be the best team in the NFL. And not just beating them, but beating them in a shootout and beating them in a game where they put up 544 yards, Dan.

And at one point, like midway through the third quarter, we're tripling the Bengals in total yardage. Yeah, they could not stop Stroud. And they could not stop the running game. Devin Singletary for the Texans. This has been a major issue for Houston all season long. They have not been able to move the wall on the ground. Not the case in this game.

Singletary goes for 150 yards, averaging five yards of pop. And it felt that way. It felt like every time he touched the ball, it was five yards, seven yards, 11 yards. So he has the big day. Noah Brown is, I don't know, he's unlocked something here with C.J.

Stroud that was not going on with Dak Prescott and Dow. Seven for 172. He had 150 plus last week as well. You have Tank Dell putting the roller skates on a cornerback and scoring a touchdown in this game. And the fact that they, we'll get into like all the different, like how this game came down to the wire.

but Houston also gave up the ball multiple times on the Cincinnati side of the field on turnovers. So they really, very rarely were stopped by Cincinnati's defense, and most notably the exception being a pick six that Stroud throws. That was a stunner because at the time Cincinnati was down double digit points. There was, I believe, less than four minutes to play in the game. Burrow had just thrown his second interception of the second half. and the pick six by Stroud woke up the building. In fact, a lot of Cincinnati fans are streaming toward the exits, Greg,

and they all pour back in. And they went down at the one. So Mixon got the touchdown with one yard. Oh, that's right, my fault. Yes. They get them, they take it all the way down, get the touchdown, force the punt, and the Cincinnati bangles will have to,

they'll rue the day. And so like, because I locked them up, Gregie. And this is just one of those years. You know, sometimes you've got to take the bad beats because I will never feel bad about getting behind the Bengals at home with Joe Perro playing at this level. He hits a go-ahead touchdown pass that just dropped, a bad drop. They have to settle for a field goal. Right.

Tyler Boyd drops a killer one. And then Stroud takes over and marches them right down the field for the winner. I mean, this is the stuff legendary careers are made of to have that touchdown drive with those throws with under 30 seconds left last week to tanked out. And then to be in a position where it's a third and six at his own 29, he finds Schultz after buying some time. And then a second and six at the Bengals, 42, with 15 seconds left, that's it. And he gets it to Brown, who makes, it was a terrific throw. And Brown makes an even better individual play to pick up a lot of yards

after the catch breaking tackles. That was a big play in the Bengals season because Trey Hendrickson was hurt on this play. We hope it's not a serious injury. And then you get the game-winning field goal after that. 17 explosive plays in this game for the Texans offense. It's a game that we shouldn't need it, but it's like it lets us think even differently about the Texan season, even than a week ago, even though last week kind of got us halfway there, this is this is another level because they lost about seven starters to

injuries last week, Dan. You know, Damien Pierce isn't in this game. Nico Collins isn't in this game. A bunch of players in the secondary aren't in this game. And then to win it with 17 explosives, that's the fourth most of any team in any game since 2000. Whoa. The Texans versus the,

and that's against a good Bengals defense. I mean, you want to talk about a team that is arriving ahead of schedule. That is Houston right now, and they are showing themselves to be a team that cannot be taken lightly. You do not lock against them

because they are a team they could absolutely make you look bad. And it should be also noted that this game started out to script with Burrow going right down the field. And he throws one of the prettiest balls you'll see all season. He throws it right on the money.

The touchdown goes to Irwin right down the sideline, 32 yards. And he pulls out, Burrow, one of my favorite celebrations I've seen and sometimes he pulls out the archery move.

Like, oh, Burrow, the archer, that's a great nickname, essentially. But then Houston's defense with Domingo Ryan's lead in the way there, of course,

forces five consecutive punts and gets the game under control. So you saw the Stroud interception late that allowed Cincinnati back in the game, but not only was the offense something to really be excited about, Houston, putting up 10 points in each of the last three quarters, the fact that their defense is making strides as well. I mean, look out.

They've won different types of games. I think of that Saints win where the offense actually didn't do much. They won it defensively. It's something specials brewing here. We'll get to the Jaguars later, but like that division seems much more open than we expected. And then all of a sudden, Greg, you, Cincinnati, they got the Ravens in Baltimore. And we're going to get to what happened on the Ravens today on Thursday night on a short week.

And the Houston Texans get the cards at home. So, like, interesting. I did not, I would not have, I would have happily locked this if I wasn't bullied over the last few weeks from our friend Nick Westling to not taking like six points. You know what? I'm going to try to get Nick on the show for the Thursday night football matchup there too. So maybe you guys could work some things out. All right, so Houston was, listeners know, a finalist for the team of around the NFL. The other finalist, and the actual choice is the Minnesota Vikings.

And here was their first game as the team of ATN hosting the Saints. Dobbs, out of the shotgun on third down, Cam Jordan got around the right tackle. Dobbs looks, he's nothing. Now he runs out to the left. Dobbs magic. To somebody. Turns to the five. To the end zone.

Hutsdown. Incredible. Josh Dobbs with a rushing touchdown has run Minnesota to a 16-3 lead. Oh, Josh Dobbs threw for a career high, 268 yards. He had two total touchdowns, including that beautiful scramble. The Vikings built a big halftime lead and then held on to beat the Saints. 2719. That is five straight wins for the team of a team.

ATN. Whoa, that right? Five straight, right? I don't know. They were 0 and 3. It's 5 and 6. Yeah, I'm getting thumbs up from Robots behind the glass. They were 0 and 3. Yes. And now they are comfortably, well, it's important.

This is a very special honor. They're comfortably in the NF, NFC playoff picture right now. So Greg, the team of ATN keeps finding away and with its dobs right in the middle of it all. That. running for the touchdown was part of a first half that was magical. It was like they listened to our podcast during the week and they said, Dan Mark and Greg believe in us. Hell, we believe in us.

Josh Dobbs, I'm not just going to be like one of the best stories of the NFL. I'm watching that first half, and I'm just thinking, this is just one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL right now. The very first play from scrimmage, a dot. I think it was to Addison. A throw they would tell you not to make because it was so impossible. I'm sure the expected completion on that from NextGen was like 10%. But he fits it in the smallest of windows.

And I thought, ooh, this could be a pretty special game. A third and one where they run an RPO, something you wouldn't be able to do with Kirk Cousins. And then a fourth and seven, or rather a third down breaking tackles before he threw the ball that to me was even more impressive than that rushing touchdown where he's just like guys are falling off of him. And he's making these, I don't even know. who to compare him to exactly.

Just like, just imagine any great rushing quarterback where he just is impossible to get down, but he's still making terrific throws down the field. Like he added that all up and they held on in the second half, but I don't care. You can't talk about the second half. They had 388 yards, 27 points, no turnover. The offense did their job and they showed they can win a different type of game with the way the defense closed it out. Yeah, that was, you know, I was tracking other games at the time.

But, you know, when you saw the halftime stats and you saw the highlights, you're thinking yourself, like, what are we? Is this the, is this the story of the 2020 season? And perhaps it might. And it's almost like the football gods were like, let's tone it down in the second half here. Because we don't know overplay our hand at this point. And that allowed the Saints to get back into the game, Greg.

And the Saints are a team that seems to be always dealing with some level of drama. They lost their quarterback again. Yeah, Derek Carr hurt his shoulders and they listed him as having that Plural? Concussion. You're both shoulders? No, his shoulder. Sorry.

I meant to, like it was multiple injuries. It was shoulder and they tested him for concussion. I need to follow up on that. They believe, because Carr spoke after the game, which is usually a sign. Actually, you pass the concussion part of that. But he took a brutal hit on his best play of the game, actually. He showed toughness on a great. great throw to Olave and then just got absolutely hammered.

And he struggled before he left. He had a fumble. He held the ball. And then James comes in and immediately goes like three for three and threw two of the most improbable touchdowns of the season. According to Next Gen stats, actually, I think that was why it was in my mind. His throw to Olave was the least probable touchdown of the entire season. And I swear the other one where he threw it across his body. to A.T. Perry, and it was just a BB, a better play by James, even than the Olave one, which was just an outstanding play by Alave and a good throw.

Like, those were two of the best touchdowns of the season, but the reality. It's always a butt. Yeah, the reality said, and he threw a couple interceptions. And he had three different chances to potentially have a game-tie-and-drive in the fourth quarter, and all three times the Vikings defense stood up. It's a shame, too, for the New Orleans offense,

because it seemed like they were starting to find a groove there with Carr and Kamara and Taysam. with Alave waking up a little bit. But now, once again, cars, we don't know what his, his situation is. Also, Michael Thomas, it should be noted. He played in this game, left with an injury. It's not believed to be serious. It was a knee issue.

But he was also arrested on Friday for an alleged confrontation with a construction worker near his home. It was even in the police report, so I don't need to say reported. But according to the police report, Michael Thomas was upset someone he believed was recording him. on his phone. It was like a contractor, construction worker next door, and he walked over and slapped the phone out of the guy's hand. I don't know what else exactly happened, but he played in this game, had any injury. They believe he'll be okay. They actually said they didn't think

it was serious. They have a buy now, so I think there's some optimism. Carr and Thomas will return. And I do think it's important to note. Like, DeNeil Hunter had three quarterback hits in this game. He was leading the league in sex. I didn't mention him on my defensive player of the year rank, you know, talk the other day. And he's, he's in that mix too. And he was making a big play on one of those interceptions by Winston. He got pressure. And I think it's cool that like their defense really has played like a top 10 defense. To me, it's telling like this was a coaching win. You, you give KOC all this Saints talent on offense. And if you give Brian Flores, maybe what the Saints defense has, I think it's like they would, the Saints would then win this game. I really believe that. The coaching in

this game particularly makes that big of a difference. Dennis Allen's defense is not making a big difference. Nice start for the team of A-T-N and just a reminder that all this Dobbs' excitement, the greatest wide receiver in the world is on the Vikings. He's been out for a month, but we could see him returning to the fray not too long from now. So that adds another layer to it. And that went into the thinking, at least for the old Zusser, of why this is the team of A-T-N because you get to root for a team that has Justin Jefferson.

So there's that. and I want to give a little love to T.J. Hawkinson. This according to the Elias Sports Bureau, Gregi. The second NFL tight ends since 1978 to catch at least 10 passes for 100 yards and a touchdown in one half. And that's playing with a tear of cartilage in his rib area. Playing through pain kept on getting whacked.

That's a guy that you like to go to war with. That's sort of what I'm talking about with KOC. It's like they started Brandon Powell, Addison, who was great, made another really good catch and almost a near touchdown. He always just, his hands are great. But they started Brandon Powell and Jalen Naylor at wide receiver.

And they're still getting a done. And not really getting a running game other than Dobbs, but he ran for 44, which makes a big difference adding to that. That's what I mean. And yet they still find a way you get Hawkins in the ball. It's impressive. It's impressive. They're a game and a half up on that seven spot right now.

Game and a half. At this point, actually, I would say, considering their schedule and everything, it's weird to say this with Josh Dobbs but at this point I sort of think they're the heavy favorite to get a playoff spot at this point imagine imagine saying that or thinking that after week three

when they were oh and three give it to us we might we might give it to you you deserve it all right let's head to the big shootout that went down across the sidewalk here in Englewood here we go final play of the game Lions going for the win

41 yard field goal attempt Passmark left side. McQuaid to snap. There it is. Fox the hole. Patterson, the kick. It is up and it is good. He got it.

That's a victory for the Lions in the final play of the game. And what a game it was. Back and forth they win. No separation between these two. And Rodney Patterson sends it through to secure a 4138 victory for the Lions. Great call. Great F yeah by Dan. Campbell run into the middle of the field.

That was great. Deserving a bungos. Him, man, fight, e-cats, save, girl, rum, tongue. Yes, the field goal was good at the gun, lifting the lines to a 41-38 win over the Chargers who had a lot of pluck, a lot of fight, but they just could not find a way to stop the Detroit line.

nobody could stop anybody in this game actually one of those pure shootouts where defense is really just an idea rather than something that truly exists and um i want to call attention to and i think we have sound for it uh one of my favorite play calls of the entire year and it was so on brand uh it was so on brand for dan campbell and the lions and yet it was still so impressive to see a team be so fearless and just believing in who they are. It's fourth and two for the lines. They have the ball. They're already in field goal range here with 147 to play in the game. They're at the charges 26. I understand we're in the era now where coaches like to be aggressive. But when the rubber meets the road, there's not many coaches that are going to

pass on a very makeable field goal this late in the game. But Campbell was smart. But Campbell was smart. He said, first of all, I believe in my offense. Second of all, I know my defense is having a bad day. And when you factor those two things in, he said let's go for it. And they pass the ball, Sam Laporta, six yard gain. And crucially,

that means Justin Herbert, who is lights out with Keenan Allen in this game, does not see the field again. Otherwise, if you assume that they make the field goal instead there, you're giving Herbert about a minute and a half to do damage there.

and potentially steal the game. Here is Campbell on his decision-making there. Going into that situation, you know, if you don't, there's going to be a lot of time left, you know, you kick field goal. You know, so I just, I wanted to finish with the ball in our hands. I liked where we were at offensively. We're playing good.

Golf was in a good spot. And I just, I felt like that was the right thing to do. He explains it, Greg, matter-factly, but that was extremely, you have to have, like, onions, like great big onions to make a decision like that in that game. And it seems like it wasn't even a hard choice for him. That's part of the reason everybody loves this guy. I love him too.

He's a great coach. And I think the contrast between him and Brandon Staley was so there tonight. Because Brandon Staley came in, he's Mr. Fourth Down guy. And then Campbell hoist Staley on his own fourth down partard. My favorite Westism of all time. I don't think Staley would have been ready for that moment. The thing with the line. as you can see what their situational football,

it reminds me of the Patriots back in the day. I know I bring a lot back to the Patriots, but Campbell knew before that sequence what he was going to do in that scenario. Like, they get prepared. Brandon Staley, on the other hand, when there was a big fourth and one, just the previous drive,

burned a very valuable time out to get everything together before they called what was ultimately extremely effective. A fourth and one ended up being a long touchdown. You can't kill them. But I always see with the Lions that they're at, ready for these scenarios. They sort of have it

gamed out and like the game not too fast for Dan Campbell in a way that I think it is for a lot of coaches including Staley, who's a defensive coach ultimately. And I think this game, especially against another guy who's hired the same year in the contrast and giving up 8.3 yards per play and all these touchdowns. And on a day where the Chargers scored a touchdown on their last

five drives, literally their last five drives. they are the first team this is again I think from Josh Dubo the associate press to score a touchdown on their all their drives in the last 40 minutes of the game and not win unbelievable

so like actually Herbert showed up in the biggest way possible and Staley's defense just couldn't do literally a thing for him and it's funny because they started out they go three and out the charges to start the game they have a field goal drive and then and then Herbert throws an

interception and so it's It starts as a totally different game, but, you know, it turns into what we saw. And, yeah, I think it's, you could look at it two ways with the lines because this is a team that considers itself a true Super Bowl contender. And this was a pretty epic no-show by their defense to consider themselves as contenders. And you worry how this would look against a team like the Eagles, for instance, in the divisional round or something like that. Like, you have to have somebody that's going to show up. I don't think they had a sack in this game. They could not, as Greg pointed out,

get any type of spot. They had no answers or adjustments for Keenan Allen, who was just shredding them all night, 170 yards, 75 yards on 11 catches. Unreal. And that's that sandwiched round, by the way. He came out of the game briefly with a shoulder, went back in the game, came out again,

and went into the locker room. And then every time he was back on the field, he was making huge plays. So, yeah, they finished the charges with 421, yards. But that almost doesn't tell the story because down the stretch, they were as unstoppable as any team you'll see this year. Well, also because of their defense, they only got nine drives in the game, which is not a huge amount. So to put 38 points and nine drives is wild. Then again, the Lions, you know, did 41 and 10 drives. It's, it's just crazy. And I

had, I wouldn't say a friend of the show. I'm not familiar with Mike B at Bolt tweeter. But he asked me, he says, I, Greg, I need you to spend as much time as possible tearing Brandon's daily to shreds this week. Chargers fans are begging you. We need help. I don't think you need help. I think the way this team is going that they just find different ways to lose. It's just like when the offense plays well, the defense doesn't, or vice versa. In the end of games, Herbert can play outstanding. And then they end up, like, I think it's going to take care of it for you. Like, if this team doesn't make the playoffs, I don't think you need my help. And I just don't think they're going to make the

playoffs yeah i mean you're right it's there is that that frustration never know maybe herbert just like is in f u mode the rest of the way like this was a big game for him maybe he turns it on but i sort of doubt it no for sure i mean he's coming up a game against the jets where he threw for 136 yards uh did not have a touchdown uh keem and allen was all but erased in that game with the exception of a big catch um uh to help lock down that win on monday night so on a short week for them to show up and ball out the way they did. And I want to give a little, because we brought it up in the newsroom, Greg, give a little love also to Amman Ross St. Brown, because he is, you know, I do the superstar club.

And that seems ridiculous to even talk about it. But he is the first lines player since Calvin Johnson to record four straight games of at least 100 yards. He ended with a career best 156 on eight receptions and a touch in this game. and he's just, I mean, what else can you ask for from a number one receiver? It's consistency. It's the production. It's in big moments. Goff, who also played very well in this game, has a real one there. And it's also knowing he's the receiver, that he's going to end up by the end of the season,

I would guess maybe doubling the number two receiver, who's probably will be Sam LaPorte on this team. So that's outrageous. But they are running the ball incredibly way. Having Montgomery back is huge. he ripped a long one, and Jemir Gibbs is making big plays. They run for 200 yards. They ran for 170 in the first half, which is just crazy. And you're right about the lions in terms of contending, like, who knows? But they are absolutely contending for the one seed, which seems weird to think about, but they're seven and two, which on its own is contending for the one seed.

They do not play a team with the winning record until week 16. And they finish at Minnesota, at Dallas, and then Minnesota again, which is a very interesting final three weeks. but their next five weeks are against teams 500 or worse. They're going to be favored in all those games. Even if they lose one of them, they are going to be in the mix for home field advantage.

And my last note is an apology to the lines who are hitting all the right buttons. I, and I'm not alone on this, was questioning why they blew up their backfield because Jamal Williams set the touchdown record and DeAndre Swift was a really nice change of pace guy. But Dave Montgomery had a gorgeous 75-yard touchdown run in this game.

he had 116 yards and 12 carries. Jamir Gibbs had another big game with two touchdowns. They are great. They are a great tan and there are not a lot of holes with this team. Well, the defense got to clean it up. But the offense, they can score on anybody. Let's take a break and then bring in the pipe. All right, welcome back.

It's time now for the Sunday Drive presented by the first ever Toyota Grand Highlander. Let's head to Baltimore where Greggy's Ravens look to keep it rolling against the brownies what what's not true a little pause here's the snap it's a good one the hold is good the kick is on its way end over end and it is good but there's a flag on the field hold everything don't flag me on the call hamilton jumping over and it looked like he made contact with the brown trying to do the miles garrett we'll see yeah think of the call looks like it joel bettonio celebrating yeah the browns are celebrating

foul for illegal leverage. Phil go will count. This will end the game. And that will end the ball game. The Browns have won at 3331. They've come from behind. Where's Siciliana? Tom McCarthy with the call, WKRK. Okay. Another field goal at the gun. And this one, an absolute stunner. Dustin Hopkins makes up for a yanked P-A-T that would have tied the game

in the second half after a stunning pick six by the Browns. He makes up for it with that field goal. And the Browns beat the Ravens, 33 to 31. Now we welcome in quite possibly the largest Cleveland Brown fan physically. I mean, he's a beast. I mean, Joe Thomas is a Browns fan now. Yeah, but have you seen him recently? he's you know trim and he's pretty strong looking i'm just saying i don't i would roll the dice

with shook the pipe nick shook uh feeling no pain i'm sure in ohio today uh because a game that the raven seemed to have completely in hand they let get away and the browns are right in the thick of it and the afc north as a result yeah biggest famous browns fan john big dog thompson i don't know if he's still with us but when they came back in 99 he was the face of the the expansion of the return to the league. So I don't even come close to that guy. Well, that guy seems fine, but I'm still going with shook. Yeah, we'll tell you.

Plus, we don't know if he's alive. So we're going to have to just put him to the side. Yeah, of course. I texted somebody I do a show with, a longtime friend who is older than me was around for the Browns, Haiti in the 80s. And I said, when was the last time that you saw a Brown's team fight back in a game that looked like they were surely going to lose and actually finished the job?

get to the precipice of it and come through because typically they botched that. He texted me back 1988, which of course was a bit facetious, but that just goes to tell you how rare this is for the Browns, for them to go into Baltimore and win a game in this fashion, where they were down 17 to 3 before they could blink in the first quarter, where they were down by 14 points on four separate occasions. Whoa. And he raced that every single time and didn't hold a lead until there were no seconds left

in the clock. What a game in Baltimore. The fight I saw from this team, I have not seen from a Browns team in my life. And it's remarkable. It starts with their defense, but the offense did its part to. Deshaun Watson finally had a moment that, you know, kind of made Browns fans think that maybe that trade was worth it. He was nearly flawless in the second half passes of over 10 air yards, a perfect 14 for 14. Extending plays with his feed, even if he, you know, did suffer a bit of an ankle injury during this game.

Just a remarkable performance on both sides of the ball and one that I sat back and thought, wow, like, I cannot believe that they won that game because it was a statement against a team that looks like one of the best teams in football. And the Browns went toe to toe to toe with them. Shuggy, it's 24 to 9 late in the third quarter in this game. And I had said on the Thursday preview show that I thought this was the end of excuses for Watson. He needs to be a guy that these type of games is one of the biggest Browns games in a long time against the Ravens in Baltimore. There's a lot on the line. We all know as Sestog is known to say that they ripped the ripped from the belly of Cleveland, the Ravens.

There's always going to be a lot of bad blood for that reason as well. And Andrew Siciliano, who I mentioned a minutes ago, a long time Browns fan, he told me, texted me today. We're texting about the game. He said he's screaming at his phone on the podcast that I would even say that Watson needed to step up in this game because they were down three offensive linemen. And he was in a very difficult spot. And you saw that in this game.

how there were not many times where Watson has a clean pocket to work with and he's taking a beating and the stats reflective throws a pick six Greg immediately his numbers are terrible they just seem dead in the water so the fact that the offense with Watson were able to steady themselves in the second half it really was kind of a

we're growing up type game for them well yeah at one point he was two for 11 this game I mean he looked pretty bad and they looked bad as an offense and he finishes 20 for 34 so do the math There was barely an incompletion after that. Yeah, he's 14 to 14 in the second half. But yeah, he looked, he looked jittery. The Ravens pass rush was going nuts.

David and Clownie was having another big game. And then it all kind of shifted. Well, the helmet interception pick six by Greg Newsom was massive in this game. And this is the third week out of three, I believe, where a ball bouncing off a helmet has turned into a huge play. for the Browns. They're now two and one in those scenarios. Three touchdowns, right? Right.

No, one, the Joel Adams wasn't a touchdown. It led to the game winning touchdown for the CX. But maybe that shows that it's going the Brown's way. But I'm with you on the excuses. Forget about the tackles. It's like C.J. Stroud was lighting people up without an entire offensive line earlier in the season.

The Texans lost seven starters last week and just beat the Bengals. So yes, if you're going to be a great quarterback, you do have to overcome things like that. And it sounds like Watson did. today kind of talk me through the fourth quarter there where they do have those drives. It was a 75-yard drive that ended with the Elijah Moore touchdown, the game-winning

field goal drive, and even before that a 75-yard drive to get it to 24-17. Like, what did those drives look like? Was it like the Kevin's DeFansky offense? Was it the Deshawn Watson offense? What were they doing well? It was kind of vastly different from drive to drive because the first one you talked about the made 24-17 was a methodical

drive. I think it was the longest drive the Browns had put together in terms of time and plays. Ten minutes long. In like 10 15 years. I can't remember exactly what the stat was, but it's been a very long time since they'd put that type of drive together. They ended it in classic Brown's fashion, pounding on the ground with Kareem Hunt after failing to do so on the doorstep of the end zone earlier in the game. So that was refreshing. But then the next drive, you start to feel a little desperation creep in because you realize, look, it's early fourth quarter. We're running

out of time. You're still down two scores. They go 75 yards and six plays. And the key play being Watson rolling away from pressure as he'd been under pressure all day, looking like, oh no, what's going to happen? Is he going to get strip sacked? Is he going to fumble? Is he going to make a mistake? And just as he's about to cross the line of scrimmage, he finds Elijah Moore wide open in the end zone for a touchdown. A connection that has not been there all year was refreshing to see as well. So there were two very different drives in terms of style. And then, as you said, the pick six, that's really what changed everything. But even then they get the ball with like four and a half minutes to go. And I'm thinking, I don't know, man, full field. Like all you got to do is getting field goal range. It'd be a lot nicer if you're the Browns. If you were tied right now than being down 31.30. And yet they followed through. They came through. And they killed the entire clock, which is very difficult to do. At one point, I was like, they need to speed up a little bit. And they didn't. It was a measured drive.

They made, you know, they connected on passes. David Adjoku played a big part in the second half for them. And then the play that I think he explained it all was who wants this win more. Hand off to Jerome Ford going to the right side. And almost the entire offense gets him to scrum with him and pushes him forward for an extra six yards. That right there defined who this Brown team could be because they do play hard. They definitely play hard at the end. And on the flip side of that, Greg, you have the Ravens who, by the way,

were banged up in this game as well. Cornerback Marlon Humphrey goes out, left tackle Ronnie Stanley. He limped to the locker room. He did not return. It is now, that's three, they've had a great year over all the Ravens. But that's now, all three of their losses have been bad ones, like tough ones. Gastly. And that run that Nick is referring to is like a who wants it more moment in the crucible of the game.

And it's that DNA that I just wonder about with. Baltimore. I know they're going to be okay. I know they're probably, I don't want to say they're probably going to win this division because it is wide open. All of a sudden, they have a half game lead on two teams. Uh, but can they really avoid this type of blow up in January? Because it pops up periodically with this team. This is a two year trend now. No team in the NFL has lost more 10 point leads since the start of last season than John Harbaugh's Ravens. So you know who's second? Like he doesn't have a coaching job anymore. It's Josh McDaniels and the Raiders. So it's like there, it's, it's, it's, It's crazy that now in this game, they got outgain. The other two that they blew early in the season. They totally outplayed their opponents and managed to lose. This one, they have a monster lead and get outplay. They couldn't run the ball nearly as well as the Browns. There is two things can be true.

I think they have the ingredients to go win a Super Bowl because they're very balanced. And yet there is something about them that clearly blows games with leads. And that's very worrisome. It's the fourth quarter. It was the case against Pittsburgh. the game against Indianapolis was just a weird one where they had like nine opportunities to win it and just couldn't do the job.

It's been the margins. Like they're just not winning in the margins. And it's leading to these not like collapses or meltdowns, but somewhere in between with a descriptive word I can't come up with right now. That's what they've been is just like slowly falling apart and letting the other team that kind of doesn't have any business being in the game. The Pittsburgh game was like that.

Even today was like that. They let them back in the game. And then before they know it, they look up and they're about to lose or they are losing. And that's a concerning sign because if you're a contender, you really want to win a Super Bowl. You don't make those types of mistakes against the better opponents.

At home. Against the lesser ones. Now you've got the Bengals like this division race is. Ooh, it's fun. Insane. Guess what? The Bengals are in last place. And who do you think the Browns have?

They got the Steelers. So Week 11 is going to be a lot of fun. And that was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's go places. Learn more at Toyota.com slash Grand Highlander. Shook, let's head to Seattle, another game that went down to the very end. Here we go.

It comes down to this. Jason Myers between the hash marks from 43. The kick is going to be long enough. And the kick is good. Another one. The Seahawks facing all kinds of issues in the fourth quarter. They come back.

They score. And now they win it on the last play from 43 yards out. Steve Ravel, Seahawks Radio. Jason Myers at five field goals. including that 43-yard or you heard his time expired and the Seattle Seahawks survive the Washington commander is a 29 to 26 win shook we heard there that

exactly how it was phrased there all kinds of problems or obstacles what is he what is what is what is referring to for Seattle today I think this game was a perfect example of how football is very much a four-quarter sport because this was a snooze fest going into half time guys just field goals left and right one touchdown and an extra point that wasn't converted so it made it look like two field goals on the scoreboard I thought is this team is this game ever going to wake up one of these teams actually going to start to find some success offensively now Seattle's defense has been young and hungry good you know that and everything else we've been around that block a few times but it was more an example of these two teams that just couldn't hit their stride and then all sudden out of nowhere the points start coming in bunches the last five possessions between these two teams they went like this field goal Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

field goal, end of game. That's where all the points came from because before that it was punt, punt, punt, field goal, fumble, end of half, all that in between. Nobody could get the job done. It's like they just woke up and went, oh, God, we're playing football. It's the fourth quarter. It's a tie game or it's a very close game.

Maybe we should do our jobs. And Seattle ended up being the one because they had the ball last. They did their job better. Well, they had 27 first down, 489 yards. It didn't feel like it. You know, even in the first half, they had over 200 yards. They were sloppy. I think it was a big second half for Gina.

look there were there were some booze uh at uh what is it what do they call it now uh i believe in lumen yeah there were some booze which you know you don't hear it there has certainly been a lot like i i know um you've been talking gino and i've been pushing back but you're not the only one locally they've been talking about whether they should bench drew lock and everyone pushing back on that and he was uneven even though his numbers weren't bad gino was very uneven was missing some throws, and he wasn't on the same page with his receivers in the first half, which is why I think the second half was huge because he basically played perfect. Him and Lockett connected, ended up with eight for 92.

That was a great touchdown pass to him. D.K. Meckoff, who didn't really, like, use his physicality, I think sometimes. Like, he doesn't play as big as he is and let a few balls, like contested catches. He didn't get him in the first half. He's a monster in the second half, including on the game-winning drive, a couple game-winning drives. And Gino had a couple total dimes. So to finish the game the way he did to quiet it down on really their defense has been fine this year. It's been their offense that has concerned me.

They needed a big offensive game. And they got it. And they're six and three, even though it hasn't felt like a great six and three. I would have, uh, two, two drives by Sam Hal that in the fourth quarter there to tie the game. I would have went for two maybe. Yes. The Ron Rivera won. And maybe he didn't because he thought there.

was too much time left. That is sort of the analytical way to look at it is actually when there's a minute left, there's such a good chance they could get a field goal anyways that don't even bother to risk it. But Ron's got like the riverboat Ron of quarterbacks right now. You might as well go after him.

He really is like mini Russ. I was thinking that because he was in Seattle. Like Sam Howell is poor man's Russ Wilson. Like everything today that was good was out of structure. It wasn't any like timing throws. But they're talking about the good Russ Wilson from Seattle. Yeah, absolutely. And there was a lot, there was a lot good from Howell today.

It's weird because I watched Sam Hal and I'm like slowly falling in love with this play style, even though there's like a boneheaded mistake or two every game, you know, it's coming. He did it in New England and threw a pick in the end zone. He did it on Sunday when he tried to scramble too far and ended up fumbling. But that fumble didn't end up hurting them because Seattle couldn't do anything with it. But at the same time, it's the out of structure stuff. It's the way that he just finds ways to make plays. And it's the touchdown drives that he had in the fourth quarter of this game,

including the touchdown pass to Diami Brown that tied the game. I mean, that was like, oh, that was a, that was a gem. strike over the middle. It was so stunning that I think the defense was shocked. He had the ball. And then he's in the end zone and the stadium's stunned. And they don't know what to say because they were pretty much trying to put away a win right there. So I love watching them play.

I very much agree with it. It ended up working out well for them that they gave up the score that quickly. And they sold at the deadline. So this is not the same team that broke camp. But, you know, Washington's defense was supposed to lift them this year. And it's been bad. They get the Cowboys twice still. They get the Dolphins and the Niners still in their schedule.

I think Washington is going to make a quick exit from the playoff picture, but maybe they'll be fun watching it as they do it. Let's move on. One more, Shook. You want to hang around for one more? Let's do it. Let's head to Tampa where the bucks are looking to get off the Schneider. Tears may feel, shotgun look, looks right. Now back to those toward his left. Caught ball Evans at the five to the three, two.

Schneide. Touchouts have a bay. There you go. Fire the can and Spike Evans. Yeah, really a nice job. Now, Baker, he had those happy. He looked to his left to his right, but then he was able to find Mike Evans coming on an in-rout right in the middle of the field. I love that Gene Dagger Hawth. W-F-U-S. Mike Evans, a toned for a hideous drop earlier in the game on a short touchdown with that bulldozing TD score. Provided the Bucks with some breathing room in an eventual 20 to 6 win over the third. the Titans.

Shuki, the Bucks Snap a four-game losing skid and the Titans are back to being one of the most boring teams in the world. That about right? Yeah, that's absolutely right. Look, we'll go winners first because the Buccaneers finally experienced the sweet taste of victory for the first time in a month, something that they probably felt they should have had once or twice prior, and it was Baker Mayfield leading the way. My buddy, longtime best friend since college, was in town this weekend.

He works in Tampa. He said the discourse down there is that they should consider going to Kyle Trey. And I said, are you crazy? Have you watched this team? Baker's one of the only good things that's going with this offense right now. And Mike Evans is a big reason why. Literally every fan base does like if you lose game's quarterback, no matter what. There's no context.

It's the worst. Baker basically won a game last week before I got stolen away by the kid. It was his fault that they gave up 39 points. But it was also his fault that Mike Evans couldn't catch a pass today, right? Wrong. Mike Evans was going through it on the sideline emotionally. He walks over to the sideline. He slams a cooler with his fist.

he puts a towel over his head his head is in his hands he's emotionally distraught because he can't figure out how to catch passes and then suddenly he finds it again and that's how they just cruise do a victory and i say cruise because it was only 20 to 6 but if you watch this titans offense last week or this week you know their ceiling is very low and that's not a knock on will levis i didn't know that even after watching it last week i thought they were showing some promise last week yeah this surprises me finish the drives this is a problem this is a big problem has had the four touchdown game. And then even on Thursday night against the Steelers, he was thrown some balls that were like, okay, you see what, see what's there. So I was kind of bummed to be watching this one from afar and be

like, oh, where is the sizzle? We thought maybe we had a stake on our hands here, but apparently no. Well, you know, you know what the problem is, guys, is they can't run the ball. Derek Henry, 2.2 yards per carry it at 11 attempts. Like, that's not going to get the job done. You have a rookie quarterback. What's the best way to help them out? Get some easy targets to your tight ends and establish a running game. They don't have that. I think it starts up front for them. It's not. It's Levis's problem. He's a rookie. He's still trying to figure it out and he's showing off his arm and all that stuff. He's doing all right. But the offense, just their potential is not there. It's why they had six points in this game today. It's not that Tampa's defense is suddenly

great again. It's that they're playing a team that was much less capable offensively than the opponent they faced last week. So it's going to be tough for the Titans. I hate to say it because I was not a Will Levis fan coming out of the draft, but I've been pleasantly surprised by how he's played. It's just that, you know, one stat really defined it to me. Tampa has sent the blitz all afternoon at him because they had no fear that he was going to make them pay for it because they had no reason to fear it because he's a young guy and they're just they lack talent in certain areas so going to be a tough one titans fans i'm sorry uh maybe he's your future but this year is not going to be an easy one to swallow isn't shook have that

the little boy on christmas eve glow is like like at the family party christmas eve party where it's about 6 p.m everybody's you know had their dinner or whatever and now it's becoming real that we're going home soon and it's off the bed with the milk and cookies and Santa's coming. That's shook today after the Brown's He's just in a great, he's in a great happy place. He's in that little boy or girl on Christmas Eve

place and you deserve it, Chucky. I'm already formulating my strategy to convince my mother to let me open a gift early. Oh, I love it. I love it. I mean, the calves beat the Warriors the other night. He's sweet, baby. Let's go. It is Cleveland time. And Bucks fans

like your buddy or I don't know, maybe he just lives there. not a fan. They're tied in the loss column for the lead in the NFC South. There is no reason that the Bucks can't win this lousy division. I mean, I give them, I give them just about as good a chance as the

other two contenders. At least they have, you know, Mike Evans having this nice throwback season. He reminds me of T.O. No one makes more tough catches, but drops easier catches than you know what, guys, I can even sit back and enjoy Baker-Mayfield's play

and have no disdain for him whatsoever. Like, I'm enjoying watching him play quarterback you're in a good place you're in a very healthy mindset when i woke up this morning i was feeling pretty dangerous and we all love it sure all right chokie thanks bud see you next week all right guys thanks all right let's keep moving uh to the field formerly known as hines three seconds left first and ten at the 16 they're in cover six here's the snap he's back he looks he fires for the goal line intercepted and that is case Go down. Don't kill the special teams coach.

You killed the special teams coach. Oh, it just got a little heady over there. Some people got rocked. Packers got rocked. Sure, dude. Buffy or Greenback? The Steelers got scoring runs from Jalen Warren and Najee Harris. For the defense, closed it out with that interception.

It was 2319 win over the Packers in Pittsburgh. Greg, this feels like a lot of Steelers games this year. They're outgamed. At times, they just seem like an undercooked entity, but then they make the play when it matters and they get the big stop at the end, and all of a sudden, and they got another win. You took the words out of my mouth.

I didn't feel like I learned anything about either one of these teams. They both continued on the path. I guess I would say both offenses have shown some signs of life the last couple of weeks, and that continued. The Steelers ran for $2,000. five yards. And when they, when they ran that well against the Titans who are a pretty good run defense, okay, maybe they got something here. Warren goes for 101. Naji Harris goes for 82. They both have the touchdowns, as you mentioned. So they had a running game. Pickett still had his share

of struggles, but it's something. Even for them getting over 300 yards is something. And the Packers actually moved the ball pretty well all game. They just kind of ran out of time and couldn't get that winning touchdown. Go ahead. Log it up. What? Oh, yeah, that's right. I did lock it up.

Give it to me, Eric. Eric, I'm having a down year in the locks. At the very least, you shouldn't have me engineering. I mean, I sort of forgot. Mark also locked this up, so double it up here. We were talking about it earlier. And I just want to say thank. If Nick Wesleyan, if you're listening,

I was absolutely planning to lock the Ravens, but you sort of shame me out of taking these six to six and a half point spread. So you got me away. in today. Thank you. I'm not even joking. I mean, that's 100% what happened. I mean, you're just, it just shows what it's a lot. A blessed existence in the picks this year. Let's let's face it. You're like the Falcons at the beginning

of the year. But this is what the, the Steelers do. I mean, I think it said, AP said they're the 22nd team, I believe. Josh Dubo of the AP to be out gain. I mean, nine straight weeks to start this season. Oh, come on. They're six and three. And the other teams that have done that

are combined 33, 152. and so that suggests okay let's let's stop there for a second that suggests that this there's regression coming for this team because it's not like they play in a bad it's not like using the Falcons as an example

they're playing in some dog division and stealing a bunch of ones they are in the best division in football and yet they have found away each almost every week here they're six and three now and you mentioned Pickett like he is not making the strides

that they expected him to at a certain point you think this is going to catch up with them or if you want to look at it as a positive side of things as a Steelers fan, they're still figuring things out and winning and if they ever actually lock into something offensively in terms of actual some type of style, maybe they can, you know, this is just the beginning. Well, that's how I've been looking at that.

At some point, if they keep winning these games, they're kind of bound to start playing better and then actually deserve to win these games. And I actually think Pickett, although he was very lucky there was a call Packers fans will be going crazy about where it appeared he threw a backwards pass that was a total that would have been a change of possession they ruled that it was not um there was there wasn't like a perfect angle that was on the on the right spot to see it until someone on twitter i don't know if they were in the crowd

or what it was did sort of have the right angle and it did would it have been like a scoop and score no but there would have been a change of possession and and ball ball in the Steelers end. And I actually was... They're living dangerously. They are. I was encouraged. Late in this game, I wanted to point out,

it was third and nine with just over two minutes to go. And the Packers did not have a time out. Mm-hmm. And actually, with exactly two minutes to go. It was after the two-minute warning. And I was stunned that they called a pass there. So instead of running the ball, they actually trusted Pickett to throw the ball.

And he threw a dime for 28 yards. And it got called back. of an offensive pass interference. That did lead to that play, but it was a very aggressive, extremely aggressive play call, I would say, considering the situation, they hit it, the penalty didn't happen, and then they, they ended up making the spot.

They're not a great defense right now, but they have been playing well, like, when they've needed to, including this game. And the Packers, was it on the floor, or was it the GM that kind of put Love a little bit on the spot in the second half, saying they need to see something still waiting for him to kind of to break through here. There's been an issue for Love with Christian Watson,

which has been a surprise. I think a lot of us saw Watson as a guy that could take the next step this year because of how well things ended last year. Love has 10 interceptions this year. Five of them are when targeting Watson. And you're seeing almost every week where they just are not on the same page. Well, Watson, it wasn't, it was a tough throw to try to attempt, but Love's first interception went off Watson's hands in the end zone.

It would have been a great catch, but ultimately it was a pretty good throw. He got it to Watson's hand. It got deflected. That was one of the reasons they lost. I thought this was, I would have to watch it even closer, but I think this was Love's best game of the season. They said they wanted to see more out of them. A third and seven play, touchdown. Third and 16 play touchdown.

Fourth and six play picked it up with the pass that they went for. It was very aggressive. Third and seven play late in the game, 46 yards. Third and ten play late in the game, 32 yards. the two interceptions you could almost understand. You know, you hate the end the game that way, but one hit Watson's hand. One was kind of at the very end. So I thought he showed some progress.

All right. Let's keep moving here. The Niners went into their buy with a bad taste in their mouth, a three-game losing streak. Who saw that come in? And they go to Jacksonville to face the Jaguars who were on a winning streak. Would the losing streak continue? Not even close.

Losing streak. It's going. He's going. Jack's winning streak. He's gone. Kettle. Oh. He's got it and he's gone.

Touchdown. Oh, he's strutton. That was next level. Kittle doing the beast on a wheel route. And George Kittles wheels, there is nothing wrong with him. They never feed. Love that call. Yeah, that is great.

Keep feeding the beast. They don't do that really with Kittle typically. He only gets a few opportunities in this offense to make an impact most weeks. and he always seems to Greg Poppin, Tim Ryan with the call. Brock Purdy. Okay, there's another theme, Greg, that can go by the wayside because he played great on Sunday throwing three touchdown passes, including that 66-yarder to George Kittle.

And the Niners snapped that three-game losing skid with a 34-3 beatdown of the Jags who deliver a comprehensive stinker to end their winning streak at five games. Greg, you won't hear any talk about what's wrong with Brock this week. All of a sudden, all is well with the Niners. No, you won't hear that. I'm torn which side to start on because both sides dominated so thoroughly. Let's start with Brock. And I think he played outstanding, but I also think we knew the 49ers were back early

when they were running the ball well. This is against one of the best run defenses in the league on paper. Maybe we overrated the Jaguars defense, but the numbers were great. CMC gets 142 from scrimmage. The 49ers run for 144. Purdy was throwing the ball well right off the bat, but they were in good down and distance situations. I think Trent Williams being back was huge.

Like he was particularly blowing open huge holes. He did it, I believe, on the Debo Samuel touchdown as well. Devo had a rushing touchdown. So part of it was just like they're healthier. Dre Greenlaw looked a lot healthier than he has at earlier. points of the scene. But when they can run, it all makes sense. And there was like two plays where Purdy did kind of what I'm talking about, where it's like, I think he's been the same guy all along and like sometimes his crazy plays worked. Sometimes they don't. His first

touchdown was a wild throw. And it was a really good throw to Ayyuk, but it was into like double coverage in the end zone. And he hit it. That touchdown to Kittle, I think was an underratedly great throw. Yeah, Kittle like got open late, but Purdy just stood in there and took a hit. And if it it's just like a half second earlier. It's like that that hand hits his arm. It flies up. It's an interception. So he can take risk,

but I actually think he played a little safer other than those plays for the rest of the game. And they just looked freaking amazing. I mean, they look like the best team in the NFL again. I think one of the things working against Purdy beyond just this overall, oh, he was Mr. Irrelevant, blah, blah, blah,

is he doesn't have great arm talent in terms of strength. So it doesn't come out of his hand like some of the guys that have, you know, howitzers to use that, that adjective that's been thrown around for decades in our league which is a very large gun

Greg. It is kind of funny like an old like World War II like I mean there's you could write a term paper on the war like lexicon in football there's a lot

there's a lot right because you could be a basic and say oh he's got a cannon for an arm but if you say howitzer it's like oh that guy now that's a man that's just the way this country is anyway

on the other side of the ball yes we should get there too the jaguars um and here's something uh very rarely happens for me but got this one wrong gregg um i really thought this was a trevor lawrence big step forward year i thought i had him as a dark horse for mvp and i'm not putting all of their issues on laurence but the jacksonville offense even during that five game winning streak you're just not seeing that big step forward and this was obviously a flame out at home against the big contender they have four turnovers and there just isn't enough consistency and really big plays in this offense.

Three turnovers from Trevor Lawrence, you know, individually, two picks and a fumble. Like the first half, I thought it was, you know, it was 13-3 at halftime. And I actually think that it was closer than the score indicated, but they were just making big mistakes. Lawrence then sort of collapsed in the second half.

And you're absolutely right. There's going to be a Trevor Lawrence, how come he's not making the leap. He's been a little bit part of the problem this season, conversation this week. I don't know if I'm ready to go there yet, but he's not, he's not elevating everything around him. Like, I think he avoids mistakes well, for the most part. He didn't today, but he hasn't been making enough special throws. And today especially, like Nick Bosa and Chase Young, they combined for a sack early in this one,

where Bosa just literally just takes the ball away from Lawrence, like that's what, you know, they imagined when they traded for Chase Young. He was quiet otherwise, but the rest of the defensive line really ate. So I think it's a combination of things as it often is. Their offensive line for the Jaguars definitely lost that matchup today. And it's just, it's expectations were so sky high for Lawrence coming into the league that you, you expected at this point he would be in full flight. And yet he's taking a bit of a step back.

And I think it just, it also shows why sports are great that you had this matchup where the final pick of the draft, Brock Purdy went against the first pick in the draft and Lawrence and you saw the guy who's picked last easily outplay his I call him a rival rival strong well they weren't the counterpart let's just go with counterpart let's just go

weren't the same draft right now that I think about it how it's her V how it's who comes I just I think like two things can be true with people should not be like crushing Lawrence but we have I have people are ready to crush though like if he has one it's it's gonna be I can kind of see it out there it's like I saw Richard Sherman was talking about.

And I think what Richard Sherman is saying is right, is that we were told he was generational. And to this point, on balance, it hasn't been generational. But even this year, I would say he's been good. He's not the first thing. I just was a little surprised that both their lines were dominated. It kind of reminds me of that Raven Seahawks game last week where it's like, yes, Gino played bad in that Seahawks Ravens game,

but both lines were just so dominant for the Ravens on both sides. side of the ball. It's like, well, it's hard to really just talk about the quarterback. Like, the team was just so much better, and that was the case. This was a measuring stick game in Jacksonville. They were talking about it, and they got whacked with that stick. 49ers took that stick out, and Nick Wesleyan had a great

lock here. I would give him credit for that. This was the game two lock, 34 to 3. Yeah, that is. I don't know if Nick's lost the lock in quite a bit now. So the zoo is starting to feel itself led by Nick. I think he called himself the keeper, which is... I mean,

That's branding. I still remember that Jets one. Maybe that was the wind that really turned the zoo season. Hey, I mean, you should talk. You've been falling into locks this season every week. Please, none of them. I was going to lock this, and then I accidentally locked that. It all worked out for me.

How many times do you have to hear the same themes? So my math is correct. It would be Greg at 9 and 1 now. See, I didn't ask for them to see them. But no, I'm saying because you're talking about the Westros. They are, I think that would put them two behind Greg. got seven and three good sorry i know dan i'm sorry but we don't need to dwell on my failures you know i'll just clip this together we don't even have to bring it up again we'll just

neatly just clip this out in the edit and no one will have ever heard it all right let's keep moving uh and head to the desert where kiler murray's back how about that here we go the snaps good the ball's down the kick is up and the kick is good and the cardinals win it 25, 23. Welcome back, Kyler. Tyler Murray engineering, the game winning drive,

and Arizona gets its second win of the season. It doesn't get any better than that for Kyler Murray's return. I like that that's like an actual human being. We just like go to the grocery store. Give me half a pound of ham. Like he lives his entire life talking like that. and everyone around him has to act like it's normal.

Who is that, Wolfley? Oh, yeah. Which Wolfley? Because we got to call. Ron. That's Ron. That's Roni Wolf. Yeah, that actually surprised me today. I did notice making up our little call sheet.

There are quite a few Wolfleys in the, uh, yeah, that's in the color commentary business. I think, see, because we automatically say, oh, game winning field goal. Let's use that as a highlight. We should have went with some Kyler magic there. Because who wants to watch a 23-yarder in any capacity? Matt Prater, still getting it done. Big time production meeting after the show. today.

Here we go. You want one? All right. Give it to me. Eric Roberts in a big spot. Randy got me. Here you go, Randy. Give it to me, Funk.

Shotgun snap. Murray backs up to throw. 56 seconds to go here. Near side, it is underthrothal. Bang. At the 10 yard line by McBride, he gets up to run and he's tackled at the nine. McBride, the first cardinal tight end

in 34 years with a 100-yard receiving game. What? What? How many years? Get wolf. here we need wolfley oh I'd like to have

one quarter pound of sweats um that was good I like that Kyle Murray threw for 249 yards including that big tight end hookup to set up the game winner by Matt Prater Kyle also ran for a touchdown in his return from reconstructive knee surgery and the cards

snap a six game losing streak edging the Falcons 25 to 23 Greggy watching the highlights here reminded me how much I missed I didn't think I would feel this way because he's never been my favorite player but I miss seeing Kyler Murray with those tiny legs and a giant helmet just wreaking havoc on the second level of defenses

I know I was gassing Kyler up on Twitter today and so many the responses are just like he looks so small out there I think people just like weren't used to not seeing him and it's the helmet the helmet really it's seven times the size of a standard a helmet in the league. But he's a legit, you know, top 10 talent at quarterback. And I would say a borderline just top 10 quarterback, period. And it was really exciting because he was just back.

There was, like, maybe there will be rest in future weeks, but he did the things that Kyler did. Like that throw to McBride, not a great throw. But the decision was awesome that they, he decided to be so aggressive in that spot. He saw the matchup that he liked. He went for it. And I think he made really good decisions throughout the game. So that, that might be a good sign moving forward for this offense, Drew Petzik, who did such a nice job with Dobbs, that, like, it's going to be a match. Like, the offense made sense. They moved the ball.

I thought they looked like the better team. And he also had a 13-yard scramble during that game-winning drive to keep it alive. And to me, that was, you know, the play of the game, where Murray traveled 68.9 yards on that scramble. He essentially ran back 30 yards, then ran forward about 40. Love it. And he had a top speed, and it's not going to get to, what do you like? Well, everybody's 21.

I want 20. I mean, he didn't even get close to that. He only got to 20. 0.17, but it was his. This is Kyler? This is Kyler. We actually have the sound of that play. Let's go to it.

We got all this sound. Fake me out. I mean, right after I did my NFL plus segment on the short kings of 2020, it's a trend. It's his fastest speed, though, since 2021. So faster than anything you did last year, actually. So it kind of showed, he looked like he had juice, and he looked like a good quarterback to And Jonathan Gannon, you know, had a conversation with Kyle and Mary before the end because the Cardinals who are a team obviously in big time transition trying to figure out their future.

They did have the option of keeping him out of play this season and protecting themselves financially. They instead decide to get a look at Kyler and apparently they're going to give him very little in terms of restrictions. Here's a Gannon after the game. Before this week about maybe tempering what we do. He said from Kyler. When we saw that out there today, did he surprise you at all? Maybe that's why he laughed at me. Kyler Murray does not lack for confidence.

And I get that. The Gannon was almost saying, maybe you should temper your expectations, Kyler. Like, let's not get carried away. And he was just, like, laughing. He's like, come on, man. I'm Kyler. I'm no Desmond Redder. I'm no Taylor.

What happened are the Falcons in this game? Heineke. Don't tell me Desmond Ritter's back in my life. He is. I think he's going to be the quarterback after the buy week because Heineke and the Falcons averaged 1.5 yards per dropback. 1.5 under 4 yards per attempt when Heineke actually threw the ball. And it was very ridder-like.

He was just holding on to the ball forever. They couldn't do anything throwing the ball. And it wasted a very nice Bajon Robinson game where he goes over 100 yards. Oh, they game the football. Yes, and gets a touchdown. They did what everyone asked. They used them in the red zone. and Heineke had a couple runs.

They ran the ball well. I think they got, what, 184 yards on the ground, and yet Heineke couldn't do anything throwing the ball, and then he hurt his hamstring, and he went out. Ritter comes in, and Ritter didn't do much, but he didn't do anything negatively, and he did run for a game-winning touchdown if the defense had just held on to it.

They had a 74-yard, fourth-quarter drive to take the lead when they were down five points And to me, I think Arthur Smith's probably just looking for an excuse to put Ritter back in anyways. And he said he wanted to take the buy and then make the decision. He knows how long he might be out anyways with the hamstring injury. So I think he's back. And if you, Heinke can be frustrated. But if you throw for 55 yards and three quarters before getting hurt, you leave yourself vulnerable to lose that gig.

All right. Let's take a break here and then we'll finish up. All right. You may remember the first Sunday night football game. of the year it was a disaster for the giants 40 to nothing a loss to the cowboys and it was a sign of things to come the rematch with tommy davido behind center it wasn't much better second and 10 back to throw tyrant smith locks a guy up right side of the end zone lamb hello cd touchdown cd lamb the lamb now has a touchdown rushing and a touchdown receiving and Aubrey will line up for the

extra point that would make it 42 to 7. Oh, my goodness, Brad Sham, the Sham God, friend of the show. Amazing great, which is one pep talk from Tugboat, then for C.D. Lamb. You're taking credit for this. He has been the best wide receiver in the league for three weeks now. Maybe we're a little too harsh on him, you know? Look at the, look at the, look how it's different. Look at the difference.

The end zone's being found. is in the middle of everything and the Cowboys are humming. Dak Prescott threw for 404 yards and four touchdowns. He ran for another score. This is one of the greatest stack games you'll see. And I know it's against the Giants, but I'm just saying it is, it was just taking candy from a baby. Cowboys route the Giants for the second time this season, 4917.

The home winning streak for the Cowboys quietly is up to 12 games. And I'm going to do some quick math here, 49 plus 40. 8917 72 point margin the largest in a sweep of an NFC East opponent ever for the Cowboys so yeah if they can play the Giants every week they would be the greatest team ever as it was as it is they're 6 and 3 Greg

and a couple bumps in the road of course but man when this team is in full flight they are fun to watch well just box score looking there was a couple numbers that I was like is this number right first of all you just said it six and three. I was like, oh yeah, the Cowboys are only six and three. Why does it feel like they're better than that? Right. They have the same record as the Pittsburgh Steelers and the

Seahawks. So that, it doesn't quite compute. I think the Cowboys had more total yardage in this game of the Steelers have had all year. Right. The other number is 640 yards. Right. And 32 first downs. At one point in this game, the... 640, 12 yards shy of the franchise record, Greg, today. That is crazy.

At one point in this game was 368 yards to 27, so there was the proverbial lipstick on a pig. What? What? Dak, I know it was against the Giants, but he's been fantastic for four weeks. I don't know if he can keep this up the rest of the way, but for four weeks, 9.3 yards per attempt, 12 touchdowns.

I think he's been the best quarterback in the league for those four weeks. I was going to say, I think, for those four weeks. In a wide open year in this particular race, I think he is in the capital T, capital C, convoy for the MVP now, because his numbers are starting to really get inflated. He's playing for a team that is fighting for a division. It's the Cowboys.

And I think he really has a chance here. And you saw some things and again, you just don't want to get too crazy about it because the giants are, they're moribund. We know that. This is... They're the worst team in the NFL. I guess the Panthers are close, but... Now with you have Tommy DeVito, a

quarterback, in addition to all their other issues. And yes, I agree. They are the worst team in football. But they got big games. Yes, from CD Lamb, who was a monster, 11 for 151. But Brandon Cooks came to life.

They've been waiting all season for Brandon Cooks to be that guy that gives their offense balance and somebody could take the top off. 9 for 173 and a touch on 10 targets. Michael Gallup even got in the mix of two touchdown catches in this game. Jake Ferguson continues to flash as a real guy at tight end and someone that they can continue to build around. They're still waiting for Tony Pollard to come around. And that's starting to become a real issue, I think, for this team.

because even in this bloodbath where they nearly set the franchise record, he's averaging 3.7 yards per carry. Rico Dottle outgained him. At a certain point, they might have to start looking at a timeshare with Pollard to try to see if maybe there's a way to unlock him. But that's a minor quibble. Everything else here tells you that the Cowboys have all the pieces

to continue to build on this Texas Coast offense. I think the last two weeks and the sham God pointed out in that highlight calls why he's so good, that Tyron Smith locking down. whoever was rushing the passer. The Giants' defensive line has kind of fallen apart late for the last two weeks after being good. Tyrant Smith and Tyler Smith next to each other

the last two weeks, especially like two weeks ago, they were outstanding against Philadelphia. And Tyrant Smith has been struggling with injuries. If they get him back to being, I'm not saying like Hall of Fame caliber Tyrant Smith, but back to close to what he can be. And then Tyler Smith, to me, is one of the best young offensive linemen in the entire league.

Those two guys next to each other, on the left side, like, you can build, like they got a lot to build around on offense, but that's another huge sort of weapon that they got. Like in this Cowboys team. No, you kind of, you want to see that next big test for them. You know,

like you want to see how they rise in that situation and the Giants just want to wait. They just want the season to be over. They are very much in play for the top quarterback in the draft class. So, you're going to look into this one. Here. We'll see. We'll get to it.

But I am tracking Tankathon, and there is a big Giants Patriots game coming up next week. You know, Bill doesn't want to lose to the Giants. Well, neither team I think is trying to lose. That's for sure. All right. Well, last one before Sunday night. Football, let's head to Germany where the international series came to it. And it was the, I believe, 50th international game for the NFL. So they celebrated by sending Mack Jones to the people of Europe. Fourth and one converse for the Patriots. The clock is moving on them, though.

They're out of timeouts, and Zappi fakes. He fakes a crocky up the ball. He fires it up. He picked off by the Colts. Intercepted by Rodney Thomas. Bailey Zappi, trying to get cute. He faked walking the ball. He's trying to catch the Polk off guard,

then he threw a laser over the middle, but it was picked off and snatched up by Rodney Thomas. Yes, sir. The Colts will take that. 31 seconds to go, and the Colts and Germany are going to be victorious. Matt Taylor with a very enthusiastic call. Hey, you got a free trip to Germany.

It wasn't a beautiful game, but he got to call a win. For a five-and-five team. For a five-and-five Colts team, who get there with a 10-6 win over the Patriots, a Patriots team that has all sorts of quarterback questions coming out of this game. That was Bailey Zappy throwing a, fake spike interception. I don't know what was the funniest thing about it.

It's like that he tried the fake spike or that he didn't recognize that nobody like noticed he really did it. So everyone in the secondary was in full coverage. And then he throws a balloon ball ball over the middle that never had any chance. And the reason he was in, Greg, was because Mack Jones struggled mightily and through maybe the worst pass of his career, um, in the previous possession on what should have been a touchdown. And, said it was an interception. And Belchek is so mad and frustrated. He benches his quarterback with one series to go. With one series. I don't know if I've ever seen that. I haven't. I mean, I'm sure it's happened and maybe I've even seen it, but I cannot remember a

quarterback being benched for essentially a two-minute drive to win the game. It's crazy, but I don't blame, I don't blame him at all. As bad as Bailey Zappy has looked in brief work this year, including the preseason, Mack Jones has just been too much for him. And the offensive line was terrible pass protecting early in this game. I get it. That's part of it. You know, they're without Trent Brown. But he just crumbled a handful of times this season where just like it all just became too much for him. And when you're short arming like a wide open Gaseki, the interception that you're talking about, when you're skying a throw that that could also could have been a touchdown pass, their Hunter Henry.

They actually moved the ball well. They had 340 yards in this game. It's weirdly one of their better offensive games of the year, I would say. And they scored. Oh, my God, Greg. And they scored. Well, just because other things. Do you feel goals.

Wow. I'm just saying they ran for 167. So they were actually doing something. They were moving the ball. They looked like the better offense on the day despite their quarterback, not being able to do anything. But Mac Jones is just like too much for him. They had to take them out.

Here's Belichick after the thing. You would think with the buy coming up the way that game ended, that it might finally be Mac Jones running out of lives here. But here's what Belichick said after the game. Yeah. Look, I made the decision. That's what it was. We'll deal with next week next week.

Do you still have faith with Matt Jones? I have faith in all our players. Yeah. I mean, Bill, of course, isn't going to say anything because he never says anything. but that benching Jones in that way tells you everything you need to know and we'll see what happens next for the Patriots but they are now two and seven and it will only continue to amplify the talk about not just Mac Jones in the quarterback position but Bill Belichick and what what his future holds with the team this is another in a you know a big spotlight game

for the organization it's you know me Greg I I live for Patriots suffering after all the years of me suffering and everyone else suffering. But it has gotten to the point where when they were showing those cuts to Robert Kraft in his luxury suite and he was looking crestfallen and increasingly frustrated where it's not really surprising anymore because this just feels like this is now what the Patriots experience is and all that stuff, all the many years of greatness feel like they're already kind of far in the rear view because they've had so many troubles in the last couple of years. Kraft really wanted this game.

He made it clear. He said it publicly. I think he said it privately. He said he wanted this game to be a reset because this season's been so disappointing. Like he hadn't given up hope. And they've been pushing to be the Germany team for a long time. They wanted to do this game. They've been working on it for a long time.

And then Sebastian Volmer's on the call in Germany. He's a big, big podcaster over there. We're working for our buddy, handsome Hank. and they have this game, which is the absolute bottom. In the same game that they left J.C. Jackson home, remember that one. Jack Jones was mysteriously benched for the first quarter plus again. They asked Mack Jones after the game why they didn't throw a Hail Mary on the final play of the first half, which was very curious.

Instead, they had their biggest offensive play of the game to DeMario Douglas. And he said, that's a good question. no clue, which is like, Mac Jones. So he threw a wide receiver screen with no trickeration. It was just let's run out of the clock. It was their biggest play of the game. It was their only play over 20 yards, I believe. Definitely their only throw over 20 yards.

And he said no clue, which is a little bit of the Mac Jones of last year. Yeah, there is. Their offensive line coach, I wish, you know, the best for him. He has a health issue, but he left the team earlier this week, Adrian Clem. So like, there's just like a lot happening. And I will remember this. game because I watched the end of it with my entire family. You know, me and Walker, we're up in the, we're in the garage at 6.30.

We're having fun. Like, we enjoyed it. We're not taking it too seriously. And when that play happened, it was great. The entire family actually burst out like in laughter. What? Like, no lie. When the zappy thing happened, because we were just like, it was so, we were just.

Laughter. Because it was, it was legitimately funny. It was objective. People like me are laughing. You shouldn't be laughing about it. I know, but we just were like, there's, like, they've watched enough. to know how bad it is and uh they don't know they're so young you know you're well but this year is this year's patriots ellis is not too involved but walker no so bad is they're just like this is

got to go horribly what's going to happen then you get the fakes like the interception everyone just just starts laughing just for me and for all the other people that you know did deal with the patriots greatness for so long let's hear the sentient power aid bottle zolak uh on the mac jones interception that spelled the end of his patriots career it is for fun Absolute gift he gives the Colts. It's not competitive. He had Gisci running behind the defender. Put it up in the back end zone.

What's he looking at? You got to make a move, Bill. Oh, make a move. Buy week's here. Forget the bye week. Maybe Bill was listening to Scott. He's got a, he's listening to the broadcast. That's good analysis.

Good job, Colts, by the way. You know, I know Colts fans. I mean, let's not go too crazy. All I'm saying is good job, Shane Steichen. You're five and five. you don't there you have no reason to be that's good coaching Jonathan Taylor nice body control on that first touchdown was actually quite a nice run on a fourth down that ended up being the difference of the game you got Buckner you got some pass rush like the fact they're

Michael Pittman's like that should have been my touchdown right you just I'm saying if you're a Colts fan you're like hey we got the coach hopefully we got the quarterback we won't find out until next year we're you know we're doing some things yeah they're hanging around and at the very least uh you know they're playing for something after thanksgiving so uh there you go let's uh head to sunday night football to play the game no timeouts left i never like this prevent defense i would like to have a rush but i get it from the 44 wilson back to throw crosbie spins him around wilson being chased crosbie's got him back at the 40 wilson's going to heave to the end zone to our right hits up in the air

and it's about it down made hobbs got his hands on it to knock it down at the goal line and the raiders win at home 1612 to get to five and five on the season Yes, the Las Vegas Raiders with Antonio Pierce leading the charge are somehow, some way, in the thick of the AFC playoff race after another win, sweeping the Medellans occupants, Giants first in a blowout, and then edging the Jets 1612 when Zach Wilson's desperation and Hail Mary Heave toward Garrett Wilson

was broken up by Jets tight end Tyler Conklin Nice play, bud And the Raiders Improved the 4-1 at home, Greg They are not an impressive team This wasn't a pretty game But a battle of also-rans It is the Raiders who have a pulse

As we head toward Thanksgiving And the Jets who look like they're fading away Well, it's tough to separate these teams. And if they were in the NFC, you would feel like long term they maybe have a better chance to make the playoffs. But they both only have five losses. So it still feels big at this point in the season. And you're just wondering, like, how do the Raiders win these games exactly? Because it's a rookie quarterback, Aiden O'Connell, who's looked okay through two weeks.

It had a bad interception, but otherwise some good plays. But no running back in the league dominates the ball more than Josh Jacobs. He has the highest percentage of plays of any one on any offense. And then today, Devante Adams had a higher percentage of air yards in this game in terms of like the targets, 13 targets in this game and just like air yards. I think of any receiver of any game this year. So it's like four different guys and a lot of good speeches by Antonio Pierce and then Max Crosby. If there's one positive, I guess, about putting the Raiders in prime time so much.

Like so much. Why so much? It has kind of been the, wow, Max Crosby is one of the best football players. on earth and is just involved in every place. So a nice couple of months for Jack pot, baby. Yeah, you get the Crosby show and I think Josh Jacobs you're starting to see now

as the season has reached the halfway point. It took him while to get going after that long holdout, but he had some runs in this game including a 40 yard run and that run where he carried the Jets defense for five or six yards. He also had a big fumble that

in the fourth quarter where it looked like the Raiders were about to put the game away. But in general, he seems more like the player he was last year when he was the rushing champ. Devante Adams continues to be far less productive than he was at any other time in his career. But at least he's in the mix in this game, six for 86. And they only had 153 through the year. Right. So and you know, going against a stout jet's defense that that's going to play. So yeah, I think the Raiders on the Raiders side of the ball, it's, it's not going to be pretty. Aidan O'Connell, is not, you know, looking like C.J. Stroud out there, but it gets a little bit messy at the

bottom of the AFC playoff picture. And maybe this is one of those teams that hang around, even if nobody wants them around. On the jet side of things, I could be mad. I could be, you know, screaming and cursing and, and, and, you know, shaking my fist at the football gods about that last play because it really was a beautiful scramble to get away from Max Crosby by Wilson to square shoulders and then throw a beautiful ball to the end zone there and Garrett Wilson really did come very close to it. I'm not

and it's not, that's not a Joe. Conklin and you can't blame him, Tyler Conklin, the jet tight end. He's just thrown his hands up too and he's the one that actually knocks it away from Garrett Wilson and it would have been a miraculous win for the Jets. And the reason I can't complain is the Jets have already had a couple

two or three miraculous wins this year. So you can't just expect them to keep on pulling a rabbit out of hat and you certainly can't expect the offense to make a big play when it counts. I mean, you came down to that last throw, but really the Jets had a chance here in their previous possession to truly take the game and, and steal it from the Raiders and Zach Wilson stares down Alan Lazard and throws an interception to Robert Spillane that really kind of for all intents and purposes truly kind of buried the team.

They did get it, do a good job getting it back the defense, Greg, but it's a the same story of this offense, which is gone, uh, what are we up to now? I think 35 drives, if my numbers are right, and 169 minutes of game time. Can that be right? So I mean, it sounds probably. I mean, but it is about 35 to 36 possessions now without a touchdown. And it just seems like the team's head is in the sand on this with the quarterback, uh, with the play caller, Nathaniel Hackett, with the personnel. uh with the scheme like they're not changing anything and i wonder like how much of that is and as the season slips away and they lose the tiebreaker now of the raiders they lose a tiebreaker

to the chargers last week two conference losses so very bad for their playoff hopes how is how much is this is tied into the true boss of the organization aaron rogers who again floated something to nbc about a return and it's like they want to just keep everything in place until he gets here to save us and it's certainly no way to try to keep a season alive as it all starts to fade away Yeah, he said mid-December to Melissa Stark, that that was the goal. And it's mid-November right now for those tracking. So he says he's about a month away, potentially. And so that would be, you know, maybe their game against the commanders,

which would be, you know, with only three weeks left in the season, most likely. PFT also put something out that it's more likely that he wouldn't be ready to OTAs for what it's worth. it's tough this game is actually why they can't change off of it because I understand why they would leave this game thinking oh man we're not that far away now on one hand we haven't scored a freaking touchdown in almost three games 35 drives I think and yet Zach Wilson on those final two drives made some great throws I mean to get the ball in position once they fell down a touch you know once Jacobs fumbled that ball. And it was Jacobs's first

fumble, I think, in 300-something touches. So, like, that's pretty rare that that would happen. 346 straight touches without losing a fumble. And then he fumbled it. And you almost feel like, oh, the magic's happened again.

Zach Wilson made some really good plays to move the ball down the field. Then he stares down the interception. Then he gets the ball back again. And, I mean, that throw out of Conklin he had to set up the Hail Mary was incredible, too. So it's like, you're seeing these little flashes. And he started the game,

five for seven for eight. 84 yards and he almost ran in for a touchdown. This is actually one of Zach Wilson's best games of the season. And think about that though. Right. They didn't score a touchdown. And yes, he nearly had a touchdown scramble

but stepped out of bounds and then they shoot themselves on the foot with penalties on that drive. He also had the no look pass to Alan Lazard on that penultimate drive that he rattled at home because Lazard was trying almost to drop the ball but he held on to it. It was probably his third best game. He had that two game stretch where he looked okay.

This one I was like, okay, but they also, the defense only allowed two first downs in the first 25 minute, Dan, and it was nine to three at that point. And the Jets had a chance to go down and at least take the clock away at the end of the first half and they couldn't do that. And that's where they are not taking advantage and they're asking the defense to do so much. They should have been up by two scores at halftime and they kind of just frittered that part away. And that that is on the office. Yeah, and it's the same thing I said last week and probably the week before, like the way this. team is now set up, it is, uh, the defense is to dominate and it's not enough to just dominate. They also have to have takeaways that either produce points or set up the

offense on a very short field. And they even did have two turnovers. Right, but they didn't have the impact. Well, they actually did have one in the first half that set them up with a field goal. But unless the defense does something truly special or special teams, they're just not going to win games the way they are set up. Because in addition to, uh, the, uh, the, Wilson struggles and the offensive line struggle, the running game now is stuck in mud. So it is to me with the Giants, these are the two worst offenses in football. So if the Raiders fans right now are feeling happy and refreshed and renewed, that's good. That's great.

You have something to root for, but also keep in mind the two offenses that you just played are quite possibly along with the Patriots, possibly the worst offenses in football. So we'll see what the Raiders look like when the competition jumps up a notch. But, yeah, they have the dolphins next week. So that will be a true test and the chiefs after that. So we'll see where they stand. I mean, the AFC is truly stupid. There are seven teams, there's that eight teams, you know, between the seven seed, which is Houston.

Houston's five and four. Like we think of them as this great team. And Cincinnati's five and four and Buffalo is far as that they haven't played tomorrow night. But there's seven teams that either have four or five losses, including the Jets, including the Raiders, including the Denver Broncos, at least, for one more day. I'm just like... Eight teams.

I counted it wrong. Eight teams have either four or five losses. I mean, that is a big, fat middle of a conference and then New England. But, you know, if you're a Jets fan, you're disgusted because you thought home against the Chargers, then you get the Raiders. This would have been your chance to kind of put yourself ahead of a lot of these teams. Instead, now you're kind of looking up at them.

it's just very frustrating and it's i try to keep it in perspective great because i know in my heart as soon as aaron rogers the killies popped it was over and i said that i've said that um but they kind of sucked you in with some of those wins and made you think okay maybe this could be like a fun weird season and we're playing the in the playoffs as a wild card but i feel like the last six days reality is struck and um it feels like midnight has struck which is which is also kind of sad because it wasn't exactly a Cinderella story either. They've been a tough watch for the most part this season, but we're kept on coming up with wins.

But now they're coming up with losses, and that's just the way it goes. All right. Just got to hold the fort here until Aaron gets back, but at Buffalo and then Miami. Knicks just had a really good homestead. They just beat up on all three of their opponents. So we got the Knicks.

And we got. Big Nick Celtics game this week. Yeah, and the Yankees are doing it. Football is completely different than basketball. This Japanese pitcher that I'm excited about and maybe we make a play for a tonny. So there's, you know, there is hope. Just not about the football team.

All right. We'll be back on Monday with the Monday night football recap and news rundown. Also, NFL Plus returns. Our game of the week this week will be. Texans Bengals. Pretty good. That'll be fun.

So make sure you're, there for that until then thank you everybody for listening and uh nice sunday heed the call This is an IHeart podcast.