NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2024 NFL Offseason Glossary

Episode Date: May 21, 2024

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler , Gregg Rosenthal and Colleen Wolfe get you ready for the NFL offseason with their 2024 NFL Offseason Glossary (3:30). Find out what a Holly Hobbie doll is at 'H' (24:13) , what a Super Rookie trope is at 'I' (29:04). Why Marc listens to white noise at 'P' (59:30) or listen to the latest episode of Walken with Giants at 'Q'(1:05:54). Note: time codes approximateNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I have heroes here because there is no offseason for around the NFL. We're so we've been told Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and yes, because God damn it, we need it right now.

One more person. Colleen Wolfe. Connie's the queen. The queen. She is the queen of NFL. Media Thank you so much. Great to be here.

A lot of competition for Queen of NFL media, but well, maybe not. But you are absolutely the queen of around the NFL and really all areas where you roam. Wow, thank you so much.

That's great. I love being a regal member of society, and this is great. We've asked Patrick Claibon, who has a host of songs, too. Like, if he, we've encouraged him because he doesn't do this

to blast these like anthems suggesting how great he is how handsome how statuesque like inside his house so that his significant other understands the weight of what she's been given

in what she's scored yeah and like so Gonzo at this point it's about 1144 I am probably in a bathrobe wandering around your car because he need to be reminded and would you willingly do that

or I just have it as my ringtone so I can just walk around everywhere and let people know efficient yeah Greg, how are you, bud? I'm great. Good. Good.

Big show. Big show coming up. It is the return of the around the NFL glossary of terms. Yes. Because this off season, just because right now, well, OTA's kicked off. So in a lot of ways, football is back. Back? In some ways, Mark.

On Monday, they started throwing the pigskin around. Yep. In some ways, Mark. In some ways, Mark. ways i will go that far so to celebrate the return of football why not open up the glossary and give the people you know a real above the tree tops view of what the the current landscape of the NFL that's what today is all about and i feel like colin that's a public service that we can offer that i believe will connect with the audience i think so too this is one of my favorite episodes that we do i love all

the offseason episodes and i'm happy to help provide the service unbelievable Yeah. All right. You want to get into it? Let's do it. We're going to try to get through it. We did it in two parts last year. We're going to do it,

and I... Let's go over under on time for this. I will say we flippantly... We'll flippantly with very little discussion. We decided just to pack it back into one episode. Yeah, we'll see. Because last year... Lippin drag.

Last year Mark said that we were on like letter D and we were 40 minutes into... That was two years ago. And then last year we decided to cut it into two, but it's back into one big cake. But here it is. It's sticking your face. Here's what goes, Greg,

ultimately. the conversation will dictate like unless we want to do a two-hour show which we don't typically want to do Mark and I know you don't want to do so but the conversation will dictate whatever it takes but whatever is

we're in control and yet we have no control you can say that again brother all right let's get into it let's start I'll get it going where we all got tagged with certain amount of letters and I got A so A in the glossary of a turn

announcing retirement. Announcing retirement. And who is announcing their retirement? David Johnson, all pro running back with the Cardinals. He has announced his retirement after eight seasons in the NFL. He wrote Sunday in an Instagram post that he is, quote, looking forward to the next career path in life. He doesn't know what it will be.

But he hopes it brings him the same passion, excitement, and love as football debt. drafted by the Cardinals in the third round of the 2015 draft. He is in the, and this will get to my second point, the around the NFL era, one of my favorite players when he was at his peak and his peak wasn't very long.

He was a true do it all guy. He got first team all pro honors when he is at his peak in 2016, led the league, Reggie, 373 touches, 2,100 yards from scrimmage, 20 touchdowns, and also like from everything we hear, an A plus dude,

great teammate and an underdog who turned into a superstar. So part one of this is David Johnson retired. An absolutely ridiculous dominant season, like up there with the best seasons we've seen at running back or almost any position since we started doing the show. I remember how much Wes loved David Johnson as a rookie where he was a big part of that 2015 team that we kind of fell in love with with the Cardinals.

And then he was even better the year after that. There really haven't, like there hasn't been a season. since then, of a player that put that many yards from scrimmage and that many touchdowns together in the same season since. Like, that's how good he was then. And unfortunately, he's, like, everyone thinks like injuries don't matter anymore. You just assume 39-year-olds off torn Achilles are going to be fine. Like, sometimes injuries do matter. He was never really the same. Yeah, it kind of reminds me a little bit of, like, the career arc of Terrell Davis, who, you know,

minus injuries could have done eight to nine years of what he did. But he was so dominant in 2016. You mentioned the numbers. And I do recall West just like, like, like, West could see running backs before other people, like especially in the preseason. It'd be the one thing that he watched the preseason for. It was like one of his superpowers. It really was. And it was like, it was based on health. It's based on a lot of things. It's like, I can't think of too many like AP

level all pro type players that were taken away by injury the way he was because he never was the same. I just remember what a big deal it was when he was traded to Houston for DeAndre Hopkins in Arizona. That was like, I feel like I can remember where I was when that trade happened for some reason. And I remember

being at the all-or-nothing documentary premiere downtown Jay Zumwalt was with me and a die-hard Cardinals fan. And I'll always remember that moment. He's in the theater with us amongst all the other luminaries of that Cardinals, 2015 Cardinals team that was documented on that series. And there's a scene where their running backs coach,

Stump Mitchell, tells Johnson that he should be a Hall of Famer once his playing careers were over. So people who knew saw the talent that he had. He fell short of that. Obviously, his body didn't quite cooperate. But my other point I was going to make, I think of fun off-season activity, and I've mentioned it a few times, but I think this is the year we do it. We either make an ATN all-time team, like 2013 to present, who's the greatest, the roster of the ATN all-timers. I think that'd be fun.

Another idea, because I thought it'd be fun, we could like reference it during the season if we made an ATN 100 or ATN-50, top players in the game right now where they rank on our list, either or something that kind of. kind of celebrates that second idea is more like the current landscape, but I do like looking back and would David Johnson be in that conversation? Maybe, maybe not. It's not a career thing. It's like we let our group fell in love

with a collection of players. Yeah, I like that. Just workshop and some things for the future. That's fun. We do. I like the off. I like the all ATN. All right, ATN all time team

coming up later this summer, Mark. I like that. Start your research. I will now. All right. All right, I'm up. Here we go. B.

B. Colleen. B is for Blurred, as in the relationship status between a player and their team. So T. Higgins, who requested a trade, who hasn't signed his tag yet, who skipped voluntary workouts, but said that he'll play for the Bengals this year. You have Trey Hendrickson, who returned to the team after requesting that trade because he wanted the long-term deal. There's plenty of examples of this. Justin Jefferson, another one.

I talked to T.J. Hawkinson last week on the schedule release show and he was saying, because, you know, the JJ McCarthy is there now, there's multiple J.Js on the team. So Justin Jefferson will now be known as just Jets, which could be confusing for some, Dan. Yeah, that feels like it doesn't solve the problem. It just creates a new one. Yeah. But hey, I mean, I guess there can only be one J.J. per team. But the whole situation with the Cowboys, how murky that is right now, with C.D. Lamb not knowing where his contract is because he's waiting for the DAC contract to go down. And obviously Michael Parsons needs to be paid. There's plenty more, but a lot is blurred.

Blurred lines. A classic that really hasn't held up either as the singer. Has any trade requests ever been summarily like ignored and disregarded as much as Trey Hendrickson's? That's a great question. They did not care about it. And he was back immediately. And he just was like, well, I love this team. I got to admit, I'm not going anywhere. It was just like, It was a moonshot. I see your, Tray Henderson. I raised you Austin Echler last summer.

At least that was like a story. It was like a story and he stayed away. We gave some attention. Hendrickson was just like, hey, I tried. And then showed up like five days later. And everyone was. Like he gave up a little too soon. Or is Campton.

But yeah. Yeah. Even Burrow was like, that's fine if he wants to get traded. He's a player. He deserves to. But then nothing comes of it. Jefferson is. He not going to be under the radar.

He here. Something to keep an eye on, Jefferson. Cam Hayward. do what the Steelers. You're on it. Yeah. All right. C.

See, we're moving fast here. See, so you just jinxed it. All right. My word is codpiece. What are the grossest things? Medieval. It was a piece of... Were you wearing a codpiece at the Renaissance Fair?

Donate to it, didn't. It does feel like it would be of a piece. I don't know if you can just go purchase one at a typical store. I did some research. It is a piece of material worn by men. in the 15th and 16th centuries to cover... It's just like a Merkin? No, it's like...

It's mentioned in Shakespeare like six hundred times. I mean, think about it too. Like the cod piece, it, you know, it makes you look enormous, you know? And I feel like that's a good thing to have. Okay. So back then, I think it was... Before there was like the miracle bra, there was the cod piece. It was just fabric.

In modern times for our purposes, yes. The athletic cup sort of functions as the cod piece. And I just wanted to point out the off season is a no cod piece. piece necessary environment. OTA phase three starts today, as you mentioned. So many teams.

And there will be takes. I brought this around to having some sort of analysis. There will be takes based on whatever happens in the next 10 practices of OTA phase three. But there shouldn't be. No live contact is allowed. No tackling. Preach.

There was a point, even since we were covering the game, that there was live contact, that there was way more. There used to be 17. or 18 OTAs. There used to be too many camps. Two of them,

they could have six days of like hitting and stuff in the off season. That was in the aughts, but I remember none of that is allowed. And that's fine. I think it should be a teaching period. But it also means no evaluation necessary.

It's just teaching and, you know, learning things. Unless Caleb Williams could throw a mean spiral. No take. Well, we've got to ignore those things. And I think if anything. No cod piece necessary. Right. People that have listened to this show for a long time.

Yes. Have are, they're up on this. I think they realize there are portions of the offseals. that you just glance beyond and get to the next it's the perfect day

just to make that public service announcement. I think they have no listening. I'm in a codpiece rabbit hole. We're on the company laptop. We'll check back with you later, Colleen. Let's move to the letter D with Mark Sessler.

All right, I did these my way. So it's going to just be what it is. Oh, I love this. All right. D is for... You know, you don't have to give us that. We know. We've been doing this a long of time.

Can I get through three sentences in a row? That's why I'm doing challenging. Well, you said it. I'm just letting you know you don't need to even say that. We know it. It's my favorite part of them. He is for Dom DeSandro. Yes.

Okay, senior advisor to the GM and chief security officer for the Philadelphia Eagles, East Coast Jesus. Big Dom is more like Buddha, though. Anyone close to him with a sense of the beyond sees that clear as day. Sit in place, in peace, and cast off anger from the jealous. Sit in silence and feel the world burn into your beautiful body. Big Dom has hired a local painter. Jose Wiggins to paint full portraits of Dom as he sits in his small, filly-based garden. Around him are sunflowers and wind of the willows.

In each portrait, Jose Wiggins has been instructed to include the image of Howie Roseman standing beside Big Dom in the garden. A Howie Roseman in deep prayer, they are one with the gods. When seven large pizzas arrive, along with five kegs of domestic beer, Dom treats Jose Wiggins as a treasured guest. Jose Wiggins gets the first pick of meat lover's pizza. he is allowed to rest in the garden of sunflowers. Then Big Dom paints Jose Wiggins

an acrylic on a canvas that sits in the shade by keg number two. Large glasses of chilled beer or drank all afternoon as Dom and Jose Wiggins celebrate what is to come. 14 regular season wins for a team whose religious centerpiece will be crucified no more.

Big Dom. I mean, that was gorgeous. That was amazing. I think it's huge of these back. Oh, my God. I think it matters more than people realize inside building. It's massive. The security guy on the sideline.

I'm trying to get a response. He's more than that. He's the senior advisor to the general manager slash chief security officer. Entree and it's 25th season. He got a big. He's the lifeblood of that team, Dan. So I've been told. It was funny at the Sixers game.

I'm waiting for a response from him about East Coast Jesus. From Tom himself? He was at the Sixers game. And they introduced Dom and they introduced the recent draft picks. They were both watching a Sixers playoff game. Dom got bigger pop. That's the most silly thing ever. Folk hero.

He is. He forever has been. He fits the town. There's nothing else to say. What else is there to say? I don't think there's a whole lot more to talk about. I think it's beautiful. Great job, Mark.

Everything just funnels into the same place. I would like to see some of Wiggins work too. Like his portfolio is our portfolio. This is kind of an extension. of your first one. E is for extension drama. The Jared Goff contract extension of Detroit, it's going to reverberate across the NFL landscape,

but perhaps the tremors will be felt most in South Beach. Is Tua situation? It's interesting. It's a situation. It's a certified situation. This is Diana Rossini. reporting, Dolphins QB, Tua, Tungaviloa is in the building for the start of Dolphins OTAs per source. The QB is slated to become the next quarterback to receive a big

payday, but the sides are in negotiations. Tua said he was planning on attending the workout. So that's good. You don't want to have that thing where the quarterback is out in the media fighting battles. He is one of the five quarterbacks selected in the first two rounds of the 2020 NFL draft along with Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, Jalen Hertz. He's the only one has not signed a second deal and then you look at the money and you see that burrow and herbert signed deals worth 275 and 262 million respectively hurts 255 million love is kind of in a different bucket obviously but he signed that one one year deal worth 13 and a half and guaranteed uh but that was only one season as a starter so far but total guarantees are big it's it's around 200 million

give or take 20 million for all the guys and they have to make a decision obviously around Tua whether he is worth that type of investment I think it's a total flashpoint around the history of the dolphins I think it's the if they buy in on Tua as their long-term guy and he has a big big run here

and becomes a true franchise quarterback which they're already calling him one but I don't see it yet he's going to prove a lot of people wrong but if you invest heavily in the sky that can only get you to a certain place and give you some stats and he ends up being an albatross on you it could set the franchise back quite a ways so big decision for miami i wouldn't do it but i think they're going to i think they've made their decision i i think they're probably far enough in negotiations whatever their offer has been that he's there that it sounds like they're making some progress i do think him and goff are

in a quite similar situation where you can reasonably say the situation around them, the system elevates them, for Goff to get all that money, and Goff's done a great job. His agents have done a great job getting a lot of money. Maybe it sets a little bit of a groundwork here for Tua,

and I think they'll end up doing it. Goff's deal was really like a three to four-year deal depending on how you look at it. The fully, fully guaranteed money was like $1.15. It was a little less than some of those big-time quarterbacks But you're right, like, that's a lot of money for a guy that most people, including myself, would not have in, like, the top eight. I'm with you, though, like, I just, can you be convinced if you're running Miami's front office that if Tyreek Hill went down for 11 weeks and you lost Jalen Waddle or whoever, that Tua is just still the same guy that's going to make it work with whoever's around it? Because, like, the top quarterback money should go to the realistically five or six guys that you know can do that.

And there's a lack of, there are some tiers, you know, you've got the car contract. But it's like, there should be more tiered contract quarterback scenarios. And Tua, to me, needs to be tiered because I don't care about the numbers so much. Like, I don't know what it is. It's just the football fan of me. Like, I'm a little suspicious of who he is minus the system and the stars. If McDaniel believes in him, which it really feels like he does, then that's going to be the key part of it. But then, like, the domino effect, too, from if he, if he doesn't get the long-term deal,

like how do some of the other quarterbacks in the league proceed with their own situations, with their teams, like whether it's Dak Prescott, whether it's more than Love. Right. I'm curious because Love did get a second contract, but it was this weird sort of in between contract. I think he's going to get paid this offseason too, and that's going to be interesting. And one, even though Goff and Tua are kind of bedfellows and that I think everyone agrees they're not superstars, but they're, you know, really kind of locked in and loaded in trench starters. Goff has had pretty incredible durability. Has he missed games in his career? I don't even know.

And that factors in two. I know two had got through his first season healthy, but the rest of his career also has been checkmarked with serious issues, including. Not last year, though. I mean, it's to be fair. No, that's what I said. I mean, he got through this year, but that doesn't mean now that's not an issue anymore. I mean, it means he got, he was healthy for one year. Anyway, that's part of the reason why it's a tough decision. Up next, glad I'm not making it. Uh, up next. The letter F with California. Pistidious is the word. Good word. It's so fun to say, but as in the detailed approach that certain players will take to their off-season preparation, players like Kirk Cousins, who has weekly notes from every game he's played in as a starter, and he catalogs them in folders and tiny little bins. And his whole situation has been very detailed. He's learning some new things under offensive coordinator, Zach Robinson, who was the passing game coordinator and quarterback's coach for the past two years with Sean McBay, who obviously, has the ties in Washington, where Kirk was before. So I wonder how many of the concepts

are going to be that new to him. But also, he's recovering from the Achilles so he won't be active during OTAs anyway. And there's the Michael Pennix Jr. Of it all, it's not like he's going to immediately take that job. But if he does pop during these workouts, he'll add some flare,

an additional F word for you to the off season. I love that. Good word. And I do think when you think the word fastidious. I can just imagine Kirk in his office very clean. In his lab. Getting it all ready. Yeah. Oh, absolutely.

And although to be fair to him, he's done a good job adapting. He's always landed with these coaches that kind of coach that sort of system. But he has had a lot of different coaches and he adapted fairly quickly to Minnesota when he got there. I think it's like a huge benefit to roll into a system that at least

like you have some understanding of and can be shaped around you versus being thrown into something. Because I think that delays you a year depending on who you are all right letter f was done just now letter g with g that's right triple g so that makes four gs that's a quadruple g very rare and i'm adding one d to the mix here and that is gangis con who at one point and this is you know exposing a bit of uh maybe a flaw in our setup here that we had we had this topic before but this will be a different spin on it.

At one point, Genghis Khan was the perfect player comp for David Johnson, who he mentioned, announced his retirement. So for this, I'm going to throw to an audio clip from October of 2016, a week six TNF recap of Cardinals 49ers, which Wes and I traditionally tacked to the top, or at least that year, tacked to the top of our preview episode back then. One bit of context before you listen to it, Randy, and start it. Wes and Mark had spent that night watching the game together

at an unknown location. Let's hear it. Which brings us back to all or nothing when Honey Badger is on the sidelines saying that's a bigger version of Marshall Falk. And what Mark Sessler would like everyone to know tonight is. David Johnson is like Genghis Khan running with the horse. And the wind is blowing the main

and he is taking the Mongolian steps while the 49ers linebackers are little prairie soldiers hiding behind trees hoping David Johnson doesn't trample them. And with that, over to you, Han Hans. That was the wrapping up. Wow.

There you go. That was a good one. I wish I could remember what preceded that speech. I do know that Genghis Khan has populated half of one percent of the entire Earth, which is not true of David Johnson,

but would be if David Johnson were healthier perhaps. Now, that night, I believe David Johnson had about 190 yards from scrimmage. There was a stack because I ended up listening to this recap here

that him in Fitzgerer had combined for 92% of their offense. Yeah, I think he had 194 yards. He was doing that on the regular. But I do remember that night, Wes came in laughing, and he had written it on his phone in the notes, and it showed it to me. So that's why I was even laughing before he said it,

because I knew what was coming. That was your Genghis Khan. Prairie soldiers. That was incredible. By the inflection in his voice, I'm going to guess, was that recorded at Culver Sudi? Culver City Studios?

Yes, and usually we'd watch the game there, but that day he had gone off with Mark, I think, had watched it and then come back. I would imagine there is a place in Culver City, which I believe still exists called the garage, which we've all been to. That was a TNF

hangout. Yes, I was, yeah, I had narrowed it down to the cozy joxers daily or the garage. Well, one of those... All were options where televisions were plentiful. Excellent. Great to hear. Wes. Also, David Johnson,

and getting amazing popping a second. I love it. This is the David Johnson episode. All right, let's take a break, and then we will continue on with the glossary of terms. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here.

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All right. We are back. We are off and rolling here. Let's move to H with Mark Sessler. All right. H is for Holly Hobby. An innocent children's doll discovered during a modern-day pirates raid at the Gulf of Guinea in March of 2024. Her child owner thrown overboard days ago, she gone, poor Holly Hobby is taken from port to port by unhage pirates. Our little doll friend dreams of escape. She knows in her belly that some pirates are kind. Pirates more aimed at human entertainment than modern day raids on ships, with offshoot heroin and stolen crates of funions. She believes the

Las Vegas Raiders are kind pirates here for our enjoyment, our Sunday thrills. She dreams of Gardner Minchu, saving her and saying as he carries her little cloth body away from a 22-person raid vessel, you are protected now. Minchu then tells her

this, we are a sneaky, nine-win team that will be made fun of today but the giggles will cease when autumn becomes a crucible of the damned. Ooh. Hmm. Holly Hobby There she is Yeah

That's her if you're watching She needs a wash If you've ever Yeah she's been through Thought should we Subscribe to the YouTube channel or not This is the biggest

Give her some fingers Give her some fingers In a big spot That's what I would say I do feel like Mark is Very fascinated With the dolls And child equipment

Or toys from his child You know, childhood I recall them I guess when it pops up During the day job You'd have to question that, Greg Also, sneaky supportive of the Raiders in the offseason, which is very anti-where you were a year ago at this.

A year ago, I listed like the 14 AFC teams that were better than them and lacerated online. I don't believe that. I think that they're a little bit of a sneaky under the radar operation that it's not that hard to... Let me ask you a question. What is it about them that gives you that sense that they're... I am more statistically looking at the league in general and thinking that every year there's a team that, like,

somehow in their regression candidate the minute the season ends sneaks out nine wins, but they aren't nine win worthy. And so it doesn't make a lot of logical sense, but they keep coming. I was kind of meditating on which team is going to do something we don't expect because this happens.

And I just kept coming back to the Raiders. And it could be as nonsensical a take as I have in the entire off season. That feels like you are locked and loaded when we hopefully with Bill Barnwell again when we do over under. Yeah. Well, I went over for.

What's their over under, Greg? I think it's six and a half. I went 0 for four. trying to be logical a year ago, so I'm going to go in a different... You should. Bang the over. Bang the over.

You weren't off too much about that they weren't better than many teams in the UFC. Even though they won eight games, only three teams, four teams, had a worse record than them, which is strange.

Mark, do you remember... The AFC is all eight and nine and above. My prima ballerina? No, but I was talking to someone about dolly pops, if you recall.

Dolly pops? No, my prima ballerina was like the ultimate. I wanted one so bad. I got it for Christmas. And then all of a sudden, my prima ballerina disappeared. And my parents said that they put it down the basement.

So I spent, I don't know, as a child, maybe a year and a half, searching the basement for my prima ballerina. Why was it put away? They took it back to the store. They returned it. And they just said that it was down in the basement. So maybe one day I'll find it. I don't know.

Holly Hobby kind of brought back some memories. Did this come up with the, uh, you know the Suzanne I have well I've moved on from Suzanne oh what now I'm with Andrea you let you let Suzanne your psychiatrist go yeah my therapist therapist yeah yeah it seems like emotional to do that yeah

well I did it in a text I needed to move on how's Andrea doing no good way she's great love Andrea honestly lovely wonderful I'm writing this down my she has a Vespa that she showed up on before our appointment the other day. And I was like, well, this is it. This is perfect. She comes to your

abode. No, I, like, yeah, I was early. Yeah. So, good times. All right. Well, Andrea, welcome to the around the NFL team. Let's move to I. Key member. I is for indictment of prior regimes. This is a, and you know, shout out to

Nick Shook, who wrote this article on NFL.com and Gordon and everybody else on the desk that's just hammering out this content in the offseason. We've been there. It's sometimes you, it's, it feels like you're, uh, comb in the desert. Here is a Nick Shook, uh, story. Here's the headline, Falcons tight end. Kyle Pitts tabs himself quote, super rookie as he learns new offense. Uh, hit the, the, the trope alert, uh, big funk because, um, I hope this becomes one, this idea that you can, uh, just wave your entire career and say I'm starting over and then say I'm a super rookie

I love it it is an indictment obviously of everything that the Falcons have done here's the exact quote I would say I'm a super rookie I'm not a rookie rookie rookie but we're all in this new offense new regime new schedule we're all in this fresh which sure

it is true I'm glad he read that he also said that you know we talked about was he healthy has he been healthy he said that that knee injury that ended his 2022 season prematurely lingered throughout 2003 in what was a really rough season for him statistically. I'll add that I don't see anywhere in this story in this May write up. Did he have an additional procedure?

Did he do anything to make the knee better now? How do I believe on face value that the knee is now fine, even though it wasn't fine more than a year after the injury that you said you couldn't get over throughout last season. So keep an eye on the health of Kyle Pitts and whether his knee is going to let him be the athlete he was coming out of college. But anyway, the Falcons,

the last three years never happened. It's super rookie season. The only thing about it is that I can't think of a team that, you know, you were part of this Dan and so were others, like more frustrated with how that offense was run. Two years running, but especially last year, like there's a lot of potential stars

they're not used correctly. Like, could you make the argument that Pitts and the rest of feel like we're let out of jail at this point. Right. He got a thousand yards his rookie year and he had moments his rookie year where he did look like that dude. He has been a big reason why he hasn't lived up to his billing though the last couple of years. It's not just about the people. Like you can... Even with like a run heavy scheme and Desmond Ritter? Like he just isn't moving the same way. He just said it too. Dan mentioned it. Like he just wasn't moving the same way. He wasn't

as explosive. He didn't win as many like jump ball type of situations, 50, 50, He was like, Drake London is the perfect reason why I think it's fair to criticize Kyle Pitts. You look at Drake London and you say, that is a dude. Like that guy might already be one of the 10 or 12 best wide receivers in the league. That was a, I think, like a home run pick or a triple pick. Like, he is that guy. And you can see that despite the surroundings. And Kyle Pitts, I don't think you can.

I wonder if they'll make. He's not that old, though. He's like Sam LaPort his age. He's young. He came out so young. I think he's only, I mean, 23? He's really young. He's 23 right now.

Yeah. He's 24 in October. So that's, I wonder if they'll make him more of a focal point because he felt like he was just always sort of in Drake London's shadow, which is impossible because he's such a big dude, like physically. But it just feels like all of the, because I had this later, Dan, so now I have to scramble for a new situation. Scramble drill. But the amount of puff pieces that will be written about the Falcons offense and where they can go from here, it could be a brand new offense with a new head coach and just like a complete renaissance for. everyone there, but especially Kyle Pitts. You can keep it. You don't have to pivot. I stuck with mine. I had a sound drop, you know. I think it's a good challenge. It'll probably happen to all of us. We can find new ways to discuss the topic if we, if we wish, and maybe we don't wish. So just, and just to revisit in general

Atlanta's draft strategy at the top of these drafts, they took Kyle Pitts fourth overall in 2021. Yeah, but no one was, no one was killing him for that at the time. Uh, at four overall. I feel like that was seen as earlier than it expected that was like generational talent he's like a he was not here's a thing it wasn't like it's he went fourth overall in 21 a lot of people i think sort of thought he was is he the best player in this draft other than you know trevor lawrence i guess jemar chase is in that draft too but yeah you took drake london eighth overall in 22 you took bjohn eighth overall in 23 and you took pennix eighth overall in 24 so you took a in the top eight you took a tight end a running back

a backup quarterback in the last four years, three of the last four years. It's an interesting way to build your office. Your future quarterback. You kind of need, you kind of need one of these guys to really hit and become what you thought they were, maybe both. All right. Up next, Jay with Colleen. Okay.

So, Jay, I'm, I'm already trying to work on my new V work. You just roll with it. Here we go, as in. Anxiety, creeping in, calling Andrea, speed dial. jaunt, as in Dave Canales's appointment in Carolina. Will it be long term or will it be just the latest in a recent line? Now I got thrown into the blender. Oh, you're in the blender, baby.

So under Tebber be talking, the coaches have been Ron Rivera. There was the interim Perry Fuel, Matt Rule. Steve Wilkes had a moment interimly. We had Frank Reich and then Chris Tabour took over last year for a bit. So now it's Dave Canales's turn. And what does that mean? Tepper be churning. For Bryce Young, because Canales was credited with all of the help that he got,

that Gino Smith got in Seattle and Baker Mayfield and Tampa Bay. They brought in Deontay Johnson. They drafted Xavier Legate at the wide receiver position. So they juzed the offensive line as well. So what does that mean for Bryce Young and Dave Canales? Because now they will be linked forever in this season ahead. I think Dave Canales. I love that we're talking about him

because I think he's under the radar is going to be like a big figure coming up because he has an interesting vibe, a ton of energy. It totally makes sense to me that he's extremely close with Pete Carroll and he looks at Pete Carroll as like his greatest life mentor

and coaching mentor because he feels to me like kind of a younger version of the vibe Pete Carroll gives off incredible positive energy. I think brings people with him and it's just like a lot. And I think he's done a good.

job. He's done a good job maximizing his guy. So if Bryce Young is going to get to like average this year, which I think would be a good outcome, if he's just like a solid enough quarterback, then I think Canales is the guy to do it. There's like no better resume builder than like two years in a row reviving quarterbacks. Everyone

falls for that. But this is a team because some teams get backed in this situation. You can't make any personnel moves for years. You got to just let these guys do it. You can't recycle again. What is happening over there? Colleen and him are just are attempting to point out. That was good. I'm you're off on your own middle. Are you arguing

whether like how hot is Dave Conallis? That's how it started. But ironically, it is his hotness that has been his undoing in his past. Breaking news. Funk. Breaking ass news from the New York Post. Beacon.

Breaking how many years ago? It's late January. But for us, it's breaking news. New Panthers coach Dave Conallis had a quote, Secret Life of Porn Addiction and Binge Drinking. We wrote a book on it. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, how was the book? Mr. No-it-all? Oh, he wrote a book on it. He talked about this at his opening press on it. As Greg Googled already and found out seconds ago. Oh, he wrote a book on it. He talked about it as opening press conference. He literally has a book that, I think it was.

Oh, I wrote a book on it. His faith helped him work through his problems with infidelity. That was part of the ATN. book club, right? It was. Third on the list. The book is called... We got to start meeting

every Wednesday night. The book is called... Now we do. This marriage question mark, the question that changed everything. Ooh, all right. Well, that's interesting. Cool.

What letter were you again? That is wild. I did. I brought this up. This, wait, it's this marriage. Yeah. That's how a question mark... Big time.

Question mark in a big spot. Right. This marriage? The question that changed everything. He said he wrote the book to help other couples struggling with marriage. A question the author is asking himself and then answers with the book and what's happened since. How about he also used to be a cowboy boot salesman. Well, that's cool.

Wait, or is it this marriage? Or is it this marriage? That really matters. Or is like this marriage? Well, I think it's the reader. The reader can decide. How do you think he intended, I guess is what I'm saying? I don't remember.

You've given, what were the example number two of like the most. They sounded pretty similar. Like great art, I think you want to leave some room open for interpretation. With your book title, though? I don't know. I'd stress this. It's not any marriage. It's this marriage.

I'd stress this. This marriage? Yeah, like that. Kind of like hours? Yeah. While we're talking, keep pounding, I don't know if you guys knew last week was actually Keep Pounding Day in North Carolina and a number of events in communities, you know, giving back to the community.

Keep pounding. Keep pounding day. Founding. Panthers did that. I like that. Rich? When a Panthers-oriented element comes up later in the show, we just gloss right by it.

We don't discuss it after. They have, so Todd Downing, offense coordinator of the Titans. What book did he write? Well, he has the, they use his poll quote right on top of the cover, and he ends it with Liz, you know, but that is exactly what Lizzie and Dave have provided with this marriage.

But then it's not a question mark. there. And that's a tough one because technically it should it should end with a question mark there too.

Well, that's on the editors unless he doesn't have a question about it anymore. Well, there you go. That's your guy now, Todd Donan.

Then we got them. Locked them in. All right. Who's next? I believe, are we at K? Kay with Greg Rosenthal. Okay. Good job, Colleen.

Yep. That was good. I have regrets all of a sudden. Kay is for catalogophobia. K-A-T-A-G-E-L-O-phobia, which is the fear of being ridiculed or laughed at. And, you know, sometimes this sort of phobia,

this sort of fear, it starts in childhood. Just people that are exposed to criticism, maybe... It's tough and... Something to bring up to Andrea. Right, an offended psyche. Whereas if you have, like, a better foundation, maybe you're not a victim of this. some teams, I think, experience catalygophobia.

They're more sensitive. You know what I mean? You can probably guess who they are. It often goes along with like a history of little success. But I thought I'd flip this around and name my three figures or teams that would be least likely to have this. Who are just so secure in their own skin. Number one would be, or number three rather, would be the Cowboys just as an organization. You can say a lot about the Cowboys.

They will invite criticism. If anything, they almost seem like sometimes they seek it out in a way. I remember when we were at training camp and there was like a crazy story about a contract holdout and they make their players available to all the media so that it can become a big story, even though they're getting criticized in those stories. So I think in the end, they're kind of fine with whatever said about them. I think they are very, very confident to your point in the cowboyness of it all and that that will see them through the darkest of days.

Right. So they're confident. And this is ranked three to one. Not sense of three to one. Yeah. Number two. would be Mike Tomlin. I don't know if we have that old town drop.

That's a good entry. Where he just was like, I do not care. We do not care. Oh, there it is. Good job, Funk. And I believe it. Like, I just believe he,

when coaches say like, we don't care about what they're saying on the outside, when Mike Tom says, I do believe it. Whatever he believes, he believes, he believes, I don't think he's getting bothered.

And then number one, I guess would just be Jim Harbaugh. I mean, I just feel like he's, he's rolling with, whoever Jim Harba is John Arbaugh could be on this list too but Jim like he is who he is he's not going to make any complaint it's not just another day

it's two day he's very he's very confident who he is I'm scared not worried about the criticism I agree I think also the teams that have when you win that makes you feel your above outside like I'm sure Andy Reid feels pretty confident in himself a lack of cattleagogophobia

catalogophobia Catalogophobia What was the other phobia That we always talk about Misophonia? Yeah, that's a tough one too People with catalogophobia May experience symptoms such as burning cheeks

Desire to look away Awkward half smile Feeling like everyone is staring at you And goosebumps That sounds terrible It's toughy Have we not all experienced that It's at some in some form

Yeah Some level I think the phobia would be At another level, yeah Maybe to the phobia level. All right, Mark, L. Okay, L is for Lori Metcalfe. Check your catalog phobia at the door.

Here we go. Elle is for Lori Metcalfe. Do you want to... I said check your catalogophobia of the door. L is for Lori Metcalfe. Do you remember her? The hardworking Hollywood actress who played Jackie Harris,

the issues laid in sister to Roseanne on Roseanne, a 1990s runaway hit. Metcalf also starred as Kevin Costner's loyal aide, female assistant DA, Susie Cox, in Oliver Stone's 1991 film JFK.

Before appearing as a landlady in leaving Las Vegas, a Nick Cage Meg Ryan hit released on October 27, 1995, right during the Cowboys' Buy Week. Dallas was 6 and 1. There was zero question on our earth, to Greg's point, about their power. We didn't need hollow speeches or self-loving statements to help us understand their vice grip over the week, over the strong, over everything in sports.

now we're in the dumb days or are we? Has Jerry Jones finally found the special sauce the dream tonic a team with a handful of stars and a coach

playing for their contracts and NFL lives how about Lori Metcalf playing behind the scenes heroine Charlotte Jones in the 2026 Hulu funded drama how about them Cowboys

colon daddy's home that would be great and be following up the documentary but watch For a team like the Cowboys, you can't get enough. I mean, the Lakers have had Docs and they've had series and they just keep cranking them out. I don't...

Love the title, too. I don't get the feeling that the Cowboys are going to be a buzzy pick right now. Isn't that good for once? Maybe. But I think there's going to be a reason for it because I think we almost saw the best of this Cowboys nucleus already and it wasn't good enough. What I was wondering because I was like, I went to, I wrote us like going on the road to just killing them. I was like, no, no, no. What if it's flipped where it's like he's got.

them or they've got them into a situation where it's like it's not that the vice grip is on them because that never feels the way to some degree but it's like all of you could be like I could completely blow up this team and start it over and off season from now if I wanted to if I wanted just to

completely nuke this thing because everyone's kind of at the end so it's like does that do these players on this team respond or to the we don't care about critique or anything are they just floating along as they float along all the time we'll see great job by Lori McHaff and Lady Bird that scene I love Lady Bird

when she was driving her to the airport. That, like, that was a great apparent moment. And almost impossibly, I believe she still plays Jackie Metcalf on a television show that airs on ABC. Yes, there's a spin-off. Yes, I noticed that. I do a pretty good Roseanne laugh impression.

Do you want to hear it? Oh, no. What? You don't want to hear it? No, I'm not going to say it. I would like to hear it. You want to hear it? Yeah, now I don't know.

Dan does that a lot. That's all. like every evil clown from North America. If those who know the opening credits of Roseanne, I think that was good. And then I also have like kind of a running joke with my wife when, you know, we're very, you know, it's the middle of the week. And, you know, we got two kids and I got a busy house. And like, and hey, what's the dinner plan for tonight? And then sometimes it'll just like slip through like, we don't have a plan. And at 6.30. And then I'll do a joke where if Emily's like,

I don't know, I'll be like, I go into my Roseanne impression. I'll go get him some hamburger Hellburn junk She loves it She loves it Yeah That seems like a healthy way To approach that

What a window into your week Now we're talking how the sausage Gets made I don't know And junk All right That is my Roseanne Up next is

This is kind of hard The way it's graphed out So you just went right Mark? I went Oh no no Mark went And that was L Lori Metcalf There we go.

All right. So let's move to M. And it will be M for Mr. Raider. Jim Otto, a pro football Hall of Fame center. Those who know, no, he wore double zeros.

And he was in the pivot of some of the great Raiders, offensive lines, and teams ever. He died at the age of 86 over the weekend. He was known as the original Raider, the dominant center of his era. He had a singular goal. Now here's a quote. This was this mantra that he repeated over and over again. And John. Never will they kick my butt.

That's the quote. That's the quote. Never. And he did a lot of butt kicking, uh, starting in the AFL, through the merger in 70, retired after 74. He started as a center. I'll talk about whatever happened to Gary Cooper. When men were men, Otto started 210 straight regular season games,

223, including the playoffs, 12-time pro bowler. There was talk that he should be the face of the Raider on the logo with the iPatch, eye patch. He said, but with a broken nose. Whatever happened to Gary, Huber, he played center for the other. Started his career with 11 straight all-pro teams, and only one of those was a second team.

I can't imagine there are many players in the history of the NFL that started their career with six straight first-team all-pros as a rookie. Then he had a second team for one year. I don't know who beat him out in 66. And then he racks up. another four. That's on the short list of like all time, all time grades. When you go to like pro football reference and you can see like, oh, you know, Kyle Pitts like he started nine games and like when you go to

Otto's page, like you said, it's just 14s head to toe. He never missed. It's a different era. But also to say that he was the face of the Raiders because I'll never forget when I cover that final Raiders game. I did a separate piece talking to like eight or nine like dudes from that era. And a lot of them mentioned him. And there were a lot, there was a lot a competition to be the face of that Raiders team from the coaching world to the players to some of the legends like Annie was that dude and so yeah there's not

a lot like him. I like that he talked about the hardest hit that he ever received in a game was from Ray Nitchke and that he broke his face mask and that's what broke his nose and said it the way that it was. Broke my cheekbone my zygomatic archbone

that's not good. Detached my retina in my left eye I was blind for six months in my left eye. It was really bad. It all swelled up and I couldn't see. But I kept playing. I never went out of the game. With a detached retina? But Kyle Pitts's knee is sore guys. Oh.

That is unbelievable. Anyway, a true warrior of the game passes away Jim Otto at the age of 86. Let's take a break and we will continue onward. What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks.

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N is for nascent, as in Detroit's reconstructed secondary in its nascent phase. Ooh. They needed a rebirth after only Washington allowed more yards, passing yards per game last season. They used their first two draft picks on corners, traded up for Terriott Arnold, got Ennis Rake Straw at 61,

and then they traded their third rounder to the Bucks for Carlton Davis. So all three of those draft picks are potential week one starters in their secondary. They addressed, they looked at what their biggest issue was last year, and they couldn't have like addressed it any faster, any more aggressively.

They tried to do it a year ago, to be fair. There was actually a little bit of like, hey, they've improved their secondary year ago at this time and those guys are no longer on the team. But having Brian Branch to begin with like hitting on that draft pick and then adding you would think Arnold feels like a pro-ready type of guy and Carlton Davis has already shown he's a good start.

I mean, I think a team like the Lions too where it's like don't have any lips on the radar and you kind of don't have too many weaknesses. They've done a lot in two or three off seasons. But you keep Aaron Glenn, defensive coordinator. You keep Ben Johnson the offensive coordinator. It's like it is there, you could have rolled the dice that one of those two, if not

both could have been somewhere else right now and you're kind of starting over with new phraseology, new coaches, new everything. It's like this team is so much about their coaching staff and I love that they've kind of kept it all together. And it's like, what's the weakness here? I know you could pick you could nitpick a little, but not much. They thrived under higher expectations last year. As we know,

starting right in week one when they knock off Kansas City in the opener, they, what do they finish with 12? last year where they land last year 12 and 5 and you know make it all the way to the nfc title game damn near win that game against the niners um so i i can't sit here and then say well how will they handle expectations this year i think they'll be fine however now it's a it's a bird of a different color like you have to get over the hump you have to anything short of getting out of the nfc now is maybe not failure but a disappointment so it's the the detroit lines as we knew them are totally transformed. But it's very hard to get over the hump and there's still a lot of big time

competition in the conference. So we'll see what they can do. This is going to be, it's going to be a battle and we'll see if they can get over the hump. They're set up so well. And I also love that Tarion Arnold and Brian Branch played together at Alabama already. So that's kind of nice that they already have that probably report filled in. All right, Greg, the letter O. All right, I'm going to go with a great word, obedient, complying with or submissive to authority. I like when a word just sounds like it should obey me. Obedient.

I'm saying... May Colleen uncomfortable, but we're going to keep moving. Greg was saying this exactly at this time yesterday and Sunday in his house. Go ahead. I don't think if the Raiders and the Saints come out to Southern California for training

camp, and they are, that they should be obedient to this NFL rule that because of marketing rights in the Southern California area, that they don't necessarily have the rights to have fans at their training camp. Now, the Raiders have been more out in front

saying we're having conversations with both teams about the logistics of it. Talks are still ongoing. So it sounds like they're pushing for it. The Saints aren't really answering question. And I just feel like going to a training camp is such an outstanding way to grow the support of your team

and have young fans go there for, you know, nothing and just be around football, that having training camps without fans, like, doesn't feel like training camp at all. And yes, I know it's the Saints in Southern California. How many people are really going to be showing up there every day? I'm sure people would be showing up. And so I hope they push to make that happen. I hope it's not something where, like, I don't know, that either the Rams and Chargers don't allow or that the teams really don't even want it.

I don't know. Like, to me, that's not training camp. Don't be obedient in this way. And if they do try to keep fans out, like fans should let them know. Like, you're trying to grow your brand. The Raiders have done a great job over that. Saints, like, you're trying to grow fans.

Don't keep them out. It feels like a weird NFL thing in general that, like, some of these stipulations that kind of get, like, maybe why they were cooked up. But, like, what, they went to, what, was it, Greenbriar for, like, years and year? That's right. Right.

Like, secret compounds. I don't know what it is. But, like, why would you have any fan base not? I would just promote it everywhere. So I'm with you. Like, it just sort of feels like. This is just. to be good in California here.

Well, the rule would apply, I guess, everywhere, but it only matters because everyone's trying to come to Southern California. Yeah, because they're technically in the Raiders. I mean, the Raiders and the Saints are coming into the Chargers and Rams area. And they either need to get some permission, but there's questions like about whether they even want the permission and how they're going to do it. The Raiders do say that they're trying to figure it out.

Saints team president, Dennis Laosha, explained that on-site logistics, not NFL marketing rules are a bigger hurdle for the team. He believes that finding room for fans that you see Irvine's campus is going to be challenging. Okay, I read that too, but I went to multiple great training cramps

with the Rams. Like my kids had a blast the day they went and that was the same facility. So just saying. And they had like food trucks and stuff out there? It was all happening.

You said training cramps. I know. I was just trying to move past that. I'm out. There are a lot of cramps there. Good one. Good one. All right. Hopefully that all works out, Gregi.

Up to Mark Sessor with the letter P. All right. Here is where some crossover occurs, and I don't give an F. P is for Pennix, comma, Michael, comma, junior. In our news from I listen to dense white noise on earphones, hail and rain and chaos in the woods while banging out alphabet narratives as an adult male. Pressing question, how will humans react when Michael Pennix Jr. takes over as QB1 for Atlanta as early as week six? The two and three Falcons crumbling inexcusably.

23 to 10 to the Carolina Panthers. A sense of dread hovers. Beloved Kirk Cousins hasn't been himself all season. Five touchdowns, 10 picks, including a pick six just before the half. Rahim Morris recalls a tweet from Michael Pennick, Sr., issued on June 27th, 2020. You see my boy, he's coming into his zone. I can feel it. End tweet.

Morris decides, it's time to be his own man. throw chatterbox media types into the circular file and bring Panix Jr. into the fire. Four touchdowns later, the Falcons, 38 to 23 victors over Carolina, are reborn as a new creation of the elegant South. Wow. That is quite a scenario. I love these scenarios.

It's giving up on Kirk quite quickly, although he's struggling. It's two and three. It's a tricky situation. It's early enough. Could you trade him? Probably not with all the cap hit that you would get. but maybe the next off season.

People, like myself, that say, okay, they're locked in the Kirk for two years. I mean, there is a crazy scenario where if this happened, for instance, that they could trade Kirk next off season with that guaranteed salary. Haven't they set up a sort of a dangerous situation where if Kirk, let's just say it did struggle.

I'm not saying this happens. This is a bit far-fetched, but... Well, I think they've created a dangerous situation. Yeah, like your fan base, if he lights, if Pennix is like whipping the ball like they say he will, like during training camp, like your fans, it just lodged in their minds. Like, wait a minute.

Kirk just misses a game, which happens to quarterbacks, especially ones coming off in Achilles. Not him until last year. Fair. Fair. But preseason, too. We've seen it so many times where, like, the rookies come in, they light it up, it's preseason.

They're not playing, like, great competition, and that's when everything starts. And that's why... Think of Lamar. Like, everything, if you... That's certainly... Michael Penix could be a star. You don't know that.

But it's like... But then everything keeps for me going back to the same question. But then why did you sign Kirk Cousins? Why did you put this roadblock in front of him and the kid and create this hyper awkward situation that could undermine the entire operation? It reminds me of the quarterback factory that Howie Roseman talked about when they drafted Jalen Hertz and they had Carson Wentz in place. And he was like, the Eagles are trying to be a quarterback factory. Okay. But they, I'm not.

I know. There was a different situation than this is a totally unique situation. and we haven't really seen before. And we'll say, I would imagine Cousins plays one year and they trade them, right? I think if he plays well, he plays two years.

Kirk had his first press conference in front of the Atlanta media, handled it all well, I thought, really embraced Pennix. But the one key moment where I was like, oh, that was kind of the real answer

was, you know, when they asked about the, like, well, if you had known, they were going to draft Pennix, and he was just like, well, I don't deal in hypotheticals. It's like, okay.

I mean, because he was trying to be, feel at least a little real in that moment. It was an all-time rug pull on a player too to give him that contract, promise him the world, this is your team now, and then without any notice, draft the replacement

before you ever played a game. It's unreal. It's crazy. We're going to see how it all plays out. Tell me more about this white noise, Mark. I don't need to use it anymore, but back when our newsroom, I did this morning, just because there was people shouting like something or that. But like when our newsroom was crazy,

it's like, oh, like, everyone's just chatting and, like, you know, eating sandwiches and throwing food around. It's like, oh, but breaking news just happened and you have to write three graphs and four minutes. Like, I was like, F the surrounding noise, because it does bother me more than some. And so I would, I found, because I also had a baby, like a baby or two babies at the time, like a lot of white noise happening in the house. Like, this sounds helpful to a baby to sleep. Like, I can write with this, where I can hear nothing, but intense, like, nature sounds that were consistent. It's the only way that I can concentrate on anything. Yeah, I think it's. But I use brown noise.

that's like a different frequency and it's much better music for sleeping music is a nice music I'm too distracted by the lyrics and everything else like I just need nothing almost it brings you to a place of nothing

nothingness so the old newsroom there was not only food being eaten but being thrown around I don't know everyone's like everyone no but you know how it was it was like a cartoon pizzaia but you were like the one person

writing the story and it seemed like everyone everyone else is just giggling and dancing and running around and like shouting especially in the Damashack era right and then that You had the Tuesday sandwich tosses.

You had the... That happened. Thursday sandwich tosses. Yeah, that's the Friday pizza toss. I would cover my ears, like sometimes because I could not concentrate. We are the same, Mark. I mean, I cranked out the story, though. I got the story.

You sure did. You got it done. What's the other alternative? Take a walk. There is. It's nice. This is Mark's mind. It's great.

If you really turn it up, like, in your ear, like, it removes all of the... I could actually... I could picture you writing a Rex Grossman 300 order right now. It's really nice. It's peaceful, but if you just turn the dial like 7%, it's like the start of a horror movie. Yeah. Or you hear it, you see Mark focusing,

and then you look down and you see the headphones aren't actually plugged into anything. All right, Q. Q, right? Is that right? Who has Q? Q, me. Q is for question, colon.

Nailed it. Will you watch the latest version of Hard Knocks? I will. Yep, company woman, absolutely. I haven't watched all the NFL offerings with Hard Knocks. And I didn't even watch the first in-season one for long. But I'll give this one a shot because of when it's coming out in the calendar. I actually think it's a perfect time.

It is when you're, I think early July when it's why they did drop the Netflix show then. You're hankering for a little football. And just that it's different and it's off season and it's draft stuff. Like, I'm curious how deep they go into the front office stuff. I'll check it out once. You know, I'll check it out. this season or a few episodes. And if it's good, you stick with it.

And I don't think we talked about it on our schedule release show. It's the New York Giants covering what? From the end of the offseason until essentially when it comes out. Hard Knocks, colon, offseason with the New York Giants. I'm fine with it. I would imagine a lot of it is the draft. How could it knock? I want to see the Sequin fall out.

Right. I guess I do. But like, I also, my one thing is because I think the one thing about Hard Knocks, even though Hard Knocks is like what happened in the past week, like the training camp one, you're tied to those storylines and you find out new stuff. I want to, like, if it's going to be an hour about why the Giants signed Brian Burns,

like, okay, I want to really learn about how front offices work. That's all. Like, the news itself is from four to five months ago, and we've been talking about the giants at that point for four to five months. So, like, you've got challenges, make that fresh. And I mean, they must think they can do that.

And there's a reason why those that know the hard knocks history and Connie, we've done the podcast the last two summers, if you know the history, and the history is rich. Rich. The Giants have never done the show, and the Giants are one of those Tiffany franchises that distance themselves from things that are, quote, distractions. This is something they can control. So it's like this is an in-house operation where they can work on the edit of it.

Part of what makes the original and still greatest iteration of it, the training camp version. For sure. And why I wish they would just honestly focus on the hard knocks and less about being a brand and just like that show, because I think that show is special, is you can't, as a team totally control it you because the it's happening in real time week to week you have control the edit of course and they can and you've seen it i feel like more in recent years them try to filter out things that maybe they don't want focused on uh when it comes to hard knocks but still the the the way a training camp moves along you're kind of flying you're a little bit vulnerable

and teams like the giants don't like that so this to me feels like an in-house NFL films operation that the Giants signed off on, it's safe and Giants fans will like it. If I was a Giants fan, I'd watch it. And if you're not a Giants fan, maybe you will. Or maybe you'll wait until August. For the original version. That's all I can say. I mean, as soon as I hear the music, I want to watch, though. So I'm like, just drawn to it. It's going to be a different cast of characters,

though. It's not going to be funny players talking about dinosaurs. It's a bunch of front office people. Right. It'll be different. The reason why I have some, I have more optimism, I think, is that these team, and ultimately, look, NFL films were all one big company. NFL, it is always an in-house operation when it's NFL films. These team videos that they make of behind the scenes for the draft, which is even more explicitly, like, they're not going to put anything that puts the team in a bad light, have been pretty informative. And a lot of times, like, does have stuff I'm interested in. And those are created by the team. Now, those are quicker, you know, and this is a longer format, certainly, but I think that that's why.

And I am interested. And then when they show when they have good team inside, uh, ones that are made by the team often, it's pretty good. I like hard knocks a little dangerous. Yeah, that's like when we're at the, the Brown's hard knocks and you see the head coach and offense coordinator battling for the control of the team in front of the camera. There's nothing like you to the Brown's credit. Like they're like, you know what? We agreed to do this. This is what's happening. This is going out there. Like I just, the more you take away from that world. I just, I like the idea of like, oh, I want to see what how are they going to handle this?

Like, how are they going to spin it or not spin it and just show us the unvarnished truth of the situation? Uh, you know what? I don't know if I'm watching that, but you know what I am always checking out the latest edition of Walking with Giants. I don't know if you guys, this is of course the great Christopher Walken Oscar award winning actor. Uh, I believe native New Yorker and obviously a huge fan of the New York Giants. So he started his own podcast. And one thing we haven't really touched on is Tommy DeVito quarterback of the Giants became a cult

hero at the end of last season, Tommy cutlets and all that. All of a sudden it's like, we don't really hear about Tommy so much anymore, even though they didn't draft the quarterback, so hopefully he is a... He was just at the draft with me. We did a pizza contest. There he go. So he's still in the mix in Italian-American

ways, but what's his NFL future? He said, apparently there's an article he had as a chip on his shoulder and I had to hear what Chris Walken had to say about. But here's an excerpt from that. It's time once again for walking with giants. With me, your host, Chris Walken. Change has come to my beloved football team, the New York Giants.

Big Blue, the G-Men. We all go through it, change. My neighbor is now a woman. or in the parlance of her times she was always a woman she's now just living her truth hold for a fact now that you're done applauding

let's talk about someone going through change on the giants homegrown talent jersey boy done good the entire nation got behind his Italian mannerisms and Guido Good looks Tommy DeVito

he feels slided cast aside he feels as if his yesterday's news and he has something to say he's not going away the same way we all do

one day enough with the rhyming well I got news for you Tommy it's going to be hard it's going to be hard It was six hours. The best quarterback who's ever lived, man,

myth, the legend. Eli Manning, Mike Trump, walking off. Walking off. He is a huge Eli fan. We've heard that many episodes.

I like that. That was the full episode and like the, you know, the ability to take the football analysis and link it to our own lives. Right. I mean, Thank you to Chris, who was from Astoria, Queens, by the way.

So a New York native to the boat. Good context, yeah. Hopefully he can fall in love with Drew Locke. That's what I hope for Christopher Walk. Good call, good call. The letter R with Colleen Wolfe. Okay. R for recoup.

Wow, recuperation. We're recouping, and so is Anthony Richardson, the forgotten rookie. had four starts last year and now we're all just sort of waiting for him to come back with that throwing shoulder he's playing for the right coach and Shane Steichen but everything we heard

was that and saw was he's an athletic freak and it was so exciting when he came out and he was able to back it up and then we only got a month of football from him so now he has Adonai Mitchell there that they added in the draft obviously Michael Pittman Jr. who the Colts locked in as well

and they drafted two offensive linemen early that also help with him up front. So I feel like the fact that he looks like he's all the way back from surgery right now, he's going to be a huge storyline. The Colts are going to be a huge storyline and is it going to happen to me again? Am I going to be like front and center on the Colts?

You were on. I know. But this is kind of like we're watching all of the recuperations for guys like Joe Burrow as well. But Anthony Richardson and Joe Burrow at the top of the list. I like the division they play in Connie. I think it sets up. well for them to to make a run here potentially like and so much of it is ken richardson stay healthy

and and grow as a player but i think they're a fun team to get behind again i don't think you're in the wrong here i think it's funny i was quite high on them i did the projected starter series uh for the a fc last week and i looked at that roster i was like chris ballard's done it again i like them all right i kind of like them as a sneaky division winner and i went we watch this college tape and stuff during the draft season. It's like, whenever I'm watching that, I know I'm not a real draft net, because all I'm thinking is like, wouldn't it be nice to just watch some professional football where they're better?

Oh, dang, bro. And so I watched some Anthony, I went to him, Anthony Richardson, because he really only played two games that he survived. It was so short. And it's electric. It's also a little more inconsistent. I think that people realize, like, his accuracy issues definitely showed up. But I think he made good decisions, and it's just the good throws and the good runs that he made were just so good that you want to see. Seymour. And the year that you jumped on,

their, not bandwagon, but just generally, their operation, like running back goes down. The offensive line, like, just crumbled. Everything fell apart. I mean, it was like an apocalypse, but where they are now, two years later, there's a lot to believe in, and I think a lot of it is, like, Anthony Richardson is at the center of it, but

Ballard's defense and what he's built up and what he believes in, it's like, it's been a slow process, but, like, I believe in their defense I did last year, and I think, like, you're going to need to be able to get to the quarterback in this division, and there aren't a, the cults to me also have a really interesting coaching staff. I think it begins right there.

Yeah, I was just two years early on it. So I'm, I never left. Frame it that way. I think what they lacked last year was like a big time difference maker on their offense. Now they potentially have it. You don't want to put too much on the shoulders of the kid. But hey, they brought them in to be the franchise.

And let's see if he is. He might leave the league. Maybe Caleb Williams will in the OTA videos that are just, oh, that's awesome. Like the Colts showed one where he throws at 85. yards or something bonkers. I thought I was... He's great for that.

I thought I was stealing my fantasy league last year when I took Richardson high, not high, but it was like, this is going to be my QB2 that shocks the world. But I would do it again this year. I think it's worth rolling the dice on. All right, next. It's me with...

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The letter S is for superchargers, which will make more sense when we play the following clip from the 2015 season. San Diego Supercharges San Diego Supercharges San Diego Supercharges Oh, God, I remember this. That just felt it was important.

I mean to be attached to an earphone when you're saying that is a rugged way to go out. What a tribute by you. you got Wes in the show twice Greggy good work I may or may not have just heard that while looking for the other clip and thought that would be fun to just play on the show Oh the San Diego Chargers

Oh look I just did that with myself For you Mark It's all for you Mark The context for that was we thought it was The Chargers last game in San Diego It actually wasn't Remember that we thought it was They were gone and then they ended up

One more year but that was why you sang the safety lane on the field after the game was it that game? Yes. Good. So that was 2015? That's right.

Let's see if the falsetto still holds all these years later. Supercharges. You've got it. Supercharges. Yeah, well, I was younger. It was only 35 then. You can't hold the notes forever.

Great job by Big Funk just having that like ready, the cut-up version. You're doing great. Hey, let's give it up for Big Funk, who's, listen, let's hear you, let's hear your music, Funk. Yeah. It's quiet around here right now, and there's not a lot of staff. To say it the least.

And, uh, this is my favorite theme song as Big Phunks. And yet, one man can do it all. Big Fun. On the ones and twos. Eric Robbins having a baby. Maybe Funkwheel too Woo You got an S-O right now

Funk? Yeah, been dating for seven years. Whoa. Crazy, right? Seven? You're like legally married, I believe. We are technically domestic partners. I think they just took away that law.

He got grandfathered in, though. Yeah. Clock's ticking. She's six back then. I figure. It doesn't help that area. my neighbor, too. I was going to say, do you ever double date? Yeah. We had a few

times. Because Eric got engaged, married, and now child. Yeah. It's crazy. It all happened at once. Funk feeling I hate. Well, we can't assume that his significant other wants a baby.

Well, it's a lot of times. We're kind of with the same mind where it's like we want to be able to afford one before we have one or open that discussion. But it doesn't help that Eric's wife we'll be walking around and like lately the conversation has been like oh she looks so pretty she's so beautiful you know oh that's a sign and i'm like you know i'm watching tv i'm like oh that's crazy seven years is two thousand five hundred and fifty five days i can't believe you just googled that

all right good job though funk behind the glass thank you thank you that was his girlfriend pulling him out of the studio to go down to the city courthouse all right let's see where else what do we got left where are we Mark T T is for too many too many long reads by many letters here's a quick one I know well we

we learned the lesson but we unlearned it streamlined the I think we've done a good job moving along I do have a quick one for you though I have four playoff teams not returning in my little world of worlds I looked at the standings from last year Pittsburgh Cleveland

Miami, and the Rams. If I'm wrong, replace one of the teams with someone else because my sports lock of the week is that four new playoff teams will emerge as they have every year since Hillary Clinton

first discovered the magic of a pantsuit. Go. Okay. It was Pittsburgh, Miami, who? Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Miami, the Rams. Okay. I think the Rams stay in. Stunner.

Well, first of all, it's funny to be that... Rosenthal gets behind Rams, news at 11. It's funny that you're taking the... rounds out when you've been unhappy that they're not getting enough pop this off season as a I was I was suggesting that they aren't not unhappy but they aren't and I think there's a regression elements there but I'll take out the bucks just for the Rams sorry bucks well that's sensible Rams I felt was a little edgy but like I think you got it right yeah really job you're right are we just moving the segment along well I mean I'll throw four other

I don't think Pittsburgh is crazy, although I think they've got better. Cleveland's not crazy. Rams, not crazy. Okay, I got another one. I'm taking out the Cowboys and putting in the Packers. Whoa. The Packers were in the playoffs. All right.

You want to go? I'll see you're crazy and raise you. I'm taking out the Texans and putting in the cults. Really? I'm an idiot. I'll take out. I'll put in someone else. I don't know who I'm putting in, but I'm taking out the Cowboys. Well, you got to put in, you're going to put in the Raiders?

They're going to. I might. I haven't gone. I haven't done that part of that. It's a little early. making these predictions because we're just kind of out. Ouch. Oh, sorry, Mark. Yeah. It's been deemed too early by the old Rosie.

Rex annoyed that he put the Packers into the playoffs. Well, yes, because they like where they could have won the Super Bowl last year. That was a. All right. Good one, Mark. Good luck to you. Well, no, because I know you don't want to be right on that. But maybe you will be.

We shall see you. Unfair. That's what it stands for. Hey, this new schedule, you know, we have moved. We've not so quietly started to shift away. from a traditional Sunday schedule to more, this is like the NFL's primetime era.

And the more streamers that are involved, the more mouths there are to feed, the more days of the week that are being used. It's creating schedule havoc that we've never seen before because the schedule makers. And maybe that helps to explain why the schedule based on what we heard with some reports ended up being delayed a week

because they're like, how do we make this all work? Anyway, sharp if sharp football puts had this little data point since 1994 a total a total 1994 how long ago is that 30 years ago a total of three teams over 31 years played at least seven games where their opponent had over one week to prepare three and 31 years this year alone there are two teams who play seven games versus opponents who have over one week to prepare two teams with seven plus games the patriots are on the other side uh greggy they play zero

the Chargers here we go six games versus teams with extra rest and prep for them zero games versus teams with short prep the Patriots zero games versus teams with extra rest and prep for them three games versus teams with short prep so my point being I get it listen the NFL is here they're making money and everyone loves the prime time games but it feels like it's adding in in terms of look at look at my Jets for it they have six prime time games in a weeks to start the season and they're flying all over the place to do this. It is a major challenge for the schedule makers and your boy, Mike North, to try to figure out how to make this fair because it's quite simply not as simple as it used to be the way the schedule is laid out. I think number one, there's a, there already were costs to all this because like we, it's just inched up by derivations more so this season. But like players, I listen to what the players say about it.

It's their health. It's like the rest is not just like someone's going to get there and like strategize their way to a win. It's like their players have an extra two or three days to rest. I think that matters so much towards the end of the season. And yet it's like asking like a 737 to suddenly stop in midair and turn around and go the other way. Like it's not going to change because at least not anytime soon

because it's the money. It's like, oh, no matter. We can put a schedule release out on the same day as the NBA playoffs and blow them out of the water. So it's like, why stop? And, like, I don't think there is a lack of care for certain, like, people involved, namely the players and the coaches and their lives. But there's also no way that they're going to be able to make this completely fair for every single team with all of the different iterations. Like, they try.

They have to give up something to get something. Right. Yeah. To give up some of this, the competitive balance, quite frankly, you're getting millions upon millions of dollars in prime time victories. It kind of, it reminds me, as you're. discussing it. It's a good point to raise of the NBA because in the NBA, there's so many what they call schedule losses where one team's on the fourth, on a back-to-back on the road, third night and four games and the other one's been resting for like three days and just waiting

for it. And like, being an NBA fan, you almost have to have this context of like where your schedule is and where the other one is and like, oh, that's a fine lot. Like some losses aren't real losses because it's just like you were in such a tough spot. You can. can't overcome it. You hope that that all evens out over the course of an NBA season. In this case, there's so few games. I don't know if it evens out.

We need a little more research on how much does this affect these teams and on their records versus the rest. The NBA also, and it's an issue because fans pay top dollar to go to the games and then LeBron's not playing because it's a rest day. And it's like, you could do that because it's a, you know, 82 game season

or whatever in the NFL, like every game. Even now that we're at 17, it's so precious these games. So it is, it's something. All right, V. Connie. Football is completely different than basketball. That's a nice final point to put on it, Mark. Good work.

Colleen. All right. So you grabbed my Kyle Pitts one earlier. So I had to pivot off of voluminous and we're going with vicissitudes instead. Oh, look at you. And the many vicissitudes that former Jets quarterbacks have made. And in this exercise, it will be watching. two in particular. So a competition

in Minnesota between Sam Darnold and J.J. McCarthy and then the competition between Jared Stidham and Zach Wilson and Bo Nix in Denver. Now that one isn't exactly a heated one, but still, these quarterbacks have been through a lot

on their journey, not always the best situations, but they've dealt with some adversity, and now we'll see if they're able to weather the storm and come out on top. The Cistitude, a change of circumstances or fortune, typically one that is unwelcome or un... You just rewrote that during the show.

Yeah. Ow! I mean, in the... Very impressive. The changing topic sort of as, you know, a good example of a vicissitude of my topic here, I believe, because it's sort of related. I do have a... What, for W?

Yeah, for W. Do you want to just combine them? Yeah. So my W. My W is Wantan, which is a... It's a versatile word. It can mean a lot of things. things. I'm not talking about the soup. Right.

You know, the dumpling. Um, it can mean, like, with wanton disregard. Like, you're just totally... A wanton. Yeah. Like, like... Isn't it want? Deliberate or... It's wanton. Say it either way. I don't know. It's first... You were saying vicissitudes all crazy, too. We were just...

We're blowing it. We're blowing it. We're blowing it. We did out of chew. I thought you said fine. I think just vicissitudes. Yeah. There's no tea in the middle there, is it? There is a tea. Wanton. It's like wanton. Essentially wanton. Yeah. But, but One of the definitions, though... Wanton.

Yeah, that was... Go ahead. One of the definitions is lustful. That, you know, like, you have that wanton, like, desire, libidinness. Wanton desire. Lavicious.

You know, there's a lot of words like that. And that's how the Vikings fan base is going to be about J.J. McCarthy by the time we get to meet week one. Much less by the time he plays. I found a sentence, Greg, to help you. Her cheeks burned, as she recalled how forward she had been,

how wanton. Yeah. Do you understand the context now, Dan? Oh, absolutely. Well, I know the word. Okay. And the pronunciation.

So when you're ordering a, like a medium wanton, wanton soup, that was a bad job. You got a medium wanton soup? That's what I do. See, I have it wrong the other way. I was thinking about a fortune cooking this whole time. I was just totally different too. I blew it.

These Vikings fans, they're just going to be hot for this kid. If you think about quarterback history with Vikings, they haven't had a ton of homegrown guys. They had Culpepper for a minute. It was hot. They had Teddy. They were very excited about Teddy. But other than that, since like 1977,

Tommy Kramer was the only first round pick I could find. And he was like a late pick that had to wait two years. They've always been cycling through these older guys. Like, Culpeper wasn't old, but like Farah at one point in his career, Farrv, Post Packers, Cousins, Post Washington, Keenham, Bradford. And it's like, now we got our own guy. They're just going to be feeling. That's why I was

bummed out. They're going to be ordered some wanton to. Jay J's playing. I think he's going to play week one most likely, I would think. Well, yeah, I mean, it just makes sense. It's really more on Sam Darnold to

completely out player. I don't know if he could do anything. Unless JJ really like bottoms out in training camp, right? It's a great situation though. Yeah. That could help Bradford too. That maybe he looks so good in camp.

But they're like, all right, let's see if his ceiling right now because he has the experience feels a little higher. Maybe we'll start out with him. but we'll see. All right. Very good. We are coming near the end of the line right now. Up next, Mark Tuffy, X. X is for your ex lover from 11th grade. Well, that's EX. I know, but it's the X in X. Got it. And Randy, you're going to have to figure that out. Kind of a cheat. A little bit of a

cheat, but we're just going to move forward. But I am willing to acknowledge, I did. Well, little did she or he, depending, your choice. Little did this person know that you adored the National Football League. You quietly huddled away on a desktop computer in your room creating statistical reports long before a pack of nerdlings cooked up EPA and various dense nonsense to describe beauty. Of course, this was a bad move. You should have hitched like to the fields beyond the community center where said love interest was drinking out of a solo cup with Matt Troy and fill in the blank while you watch Clash of the Titans on VHS. As you become more concrete in your desire to track the prowess of Warren Moon, she becomes more unhinked.

and lost to the wind. You call her up and her dad answers and it's like you're on the phone with Mao-Say-Tong. Do you think today she or he, depending on who you are, understands and we're cycling back that Bryce Young

unanimously win comeback player of the year while Dave Canales Nabs coach of the year for a Panthers team that carves out nine wins, Teperby Tinglin. Ooh! Great end.

And we've already discussed the topic so we don't necessarily need to. One topic that we, that Dan and I especially like to hit on, um, repeatedly is Mark's strategy with these crazy predictions. This is, right. Even for him is Zigg and zag. Zigg and Ziggins. In a show where it's not really about predictions for him to sort of drop in five predictions that no one will ever remember unless one of them hits. Right. And then he'll bring it up. He's so smart. That's like when you've done things 10,000 times, you've gained that

professional knowledge. I respect it. Well, good luck to you on that one. Spamming. Yeah, that you're spamming, like, out there predictions. Because by August, these will not be your predictions. No. He'll go the other way. Well, life changes. But if Bryce gone were kidnapped. But if they're seven and four in November, we're going to hear this clip.

There's a lot of narrative behind that if, but if they, in that case. And to be clear, you're talking about the 1981 version of Clash of the Titans, not the 2010. No, VHS. Neither of which I'm old school. No, it's like the first thing that I saw on VHS back in the day. When I was in middle school, I lost to a girl in wrestling. I was just trying to think the whole time

who my boyfriend was in 11th grade. Can anyone remember 11th grade? Your boyfriend? Of course. Did you remember who I dated in 11th grade? I was holding up back in my own way. Junior year, you can't remember? I don't really remember my childhood.

Wow. Tuffy. You're going to have to talk to Andre about that. I feel like I'm really high on live. All right. Let's go to Letter. why that you

it is you Dan it is you Dan it is oh why for this is from the movie John Wick or maybe the sequel why is for you leave me no choice but to declare you excommunicado yeah we can't have Harrison Bucker in the kicker club

anymore we got he's got to go he's got to go we're going to we're going to slide him out of the club that's all he's excommunicato I don't think anyone's fighting you on that well you'd be surprised but we're going to move him out

he's going to have to do a penance he's on the outside of the velvet ropes moving forward it's a great honor and it's a privilege and it's up to you more than anyone who gets in an area you're the bouncer right and it brings me a note

because he's a tremendous kicker, but get him out. It makes me think of the old Peyton Manning soundbite from the Pro Bowl all those years ago. About Mike Vanderjack. The old Mike Vanderjack line. Reminds me of that one.

Kegone. Yeah. Which takes us to letter Z. Z. Close it out, Connie. Z is for Zeal. As in how Brock

Purdy is approaching this off season. He finally has a full off season as the starter. His rookie season, it was Trey Lance that was there. He was just learning the playbook. When OTAs began in year two, he was

still recovering from the UCL and now here they are fresh off of a Super Bowl loss, but Super Bowl appearance. And now he gets the full offseason healthy to get everything in line for this year. And they did not trade Brandon Ayyut.

They did not move on from Debo, Samuel. Like, he also, Brock Purdy has bulked up. I think it's like for a lot of these quarterbacks, like you need a couple off seasons to figure out exactly. And he already was kind of thick, like in general. But like he is bulked up. And like any quarterback three years running in Shanahan's offense. And I do like if he's going to be my avatar, you know,

as an NFL quarterback, that he's bulking up, that we're not just these little children. Bulking season. Is that a trope that Quarterback X beefs up for biggest year ever? I mean, unless you're Lamar Jackson. I mean, yeah, like, I think the losing weight

It was a trope for him though two years ago. It just didn't work out, yeah. He just decided to bring it back. He's also coming off, you know, probably his worst three games stretch of the season happened to be the playoffs. I think he played well enough in the conference championship and title game, but he,

I mean, in the conference championship in the Super Bowl, but I think he wants to play at a higher level than he did. And if this is if this is who he is, which is good, that wouldn't be surprising either. I mean, he is, he was a, you know,

Mr. Irrelevant for a reason. It's not like we should expect him to now keep developing into the next Tom Brady. Like maybe this just is Brock Purdy, who's a good quality quarterback, especially when he's in this system, but he's not going to be the guy that's special. And is that enough for these nine

to finally get over the hump. I have some optimism that he can continue to improve because I think if he was drafted in the second round or the first round and like Tua had put up the two seasons that he just put up, like we would look at a guy entering his third year who improved a lot from year one to year two, which is easy to forget.

Like he was a lot better last year overall. And that he continues keeping it going. And he's in the best situation maybe in the entire NFL. I would like, if he hit the ground like running the way he did, like I think it can improve. Because like to do that that quickly, tells me that we don't know what else he can do. I think it's only

because of the draft stock in a situation that we're kind of like punching holes or looking for something that might be fools gold and it's like we are In fairness it's also his play which there have been you know it hasn't always been incredible. There have been moments where

it's like okay is this the guy? Is this truly the guy they hope he can be I don't think he's been flawless I don't think he was flawless last year. But it's also like I could point to like 10 first round picks that have had streak. No, he's already a hit. I mean, he's a huge hit for them regardless.

I don't know. I'm not even arguing anything other than this idea that he has to continue to get better and better. Like maybe he is like Jared Goff level good. And if he is, is that enough? It's funny how different we would look at him if like the protection was better on that third and four play where Chris Jones has got in fresh. And the more I've watched that, it's like, that's really not on Purdy. in any way it just was a tough spot that like if he hits that throw then he just

and granted it was the drive is mostly about McCaffrey anyway so it's always tough to pull out but either way he would have come up with a touchdown you know winning drive potentially in the Super Bowl. I think you were pointing out that he had a terrible game on Christmas against the Ravens you know lit up a terrible Washington team at the end of the regular season and then

in the playoffs three games that were you know three games of sub 90 passer rating The Packers game was bad. They should have lost that game. And then that would have been a different narrative that people would have been blaming him. Right. So he didn't light it up in January and into February.

But listen, huge hit for them. That this guy kind of saved their butts in so many ways when they whiffed so badly on Trey Lance and let's see if he can build on it. We did it. Oh my God. The best shape of his life.

You know what? We're only doing two shows a week. We're going to give him a nice, meaty sandwich that they can throw around the office. They'll be tossing it around. All right. Any final thought? Colleen,

you've said it all. That visualization is unnecessary. The food fights in the... No, the meaty sandwich. Most people hear that and they like get hungry. Yeah, I'm starving. It's the way that you say it.

It's unrewarding. You didn't like the inflection of it. Yeah. Okay. I didn't dislike it. I just think it takes you to a certain place. I asked Colleen if she had anything else to add. She said yes.

So now the floor goes to Colleen Wolf. Do you guys want to get a sandwich? sandwich after this? Yeah, absolutely. Okay, great. We'd love to. Mark? Mark has something he has to do.

We'll see. I already know Mark's answer. This sounds like, if Colleen has never asked us in show, hey, do you want to get a sandwich afterwards? I'm starving. I'm so hungry. Same. Think about Colleen. This could be an important conversation.

I, it's not a, I'm considering it. Bunk, hit it. That seems like it's going in. the right direction we're up to i'm considering how do i say it vicissitudes is that not right vicissitudes wanton vicissitudes viscitudes he the call Hey everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move to Six, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies

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