NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2024 Week 7 Recap

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Patrick Claybon and Nick Shook to recap all the Week 7 action from around the NFL. The show starts off with Lions at Vikings (01:06) followed by Chiefs at 49ers (09:26), Texans at Packers (20:40), Eagles at Giants (32:14), Seahawks at Falcons (39:00), Bengals at Browns (46:30), Titans at Bills (57:25), Panthers at Commanders (01:03:12), Patriots versus Jaguars at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium (01:10:00), Dolphins at Colts (01:16:35), Raiders at Rams (01:23:00), and Jets at Steelers (01:30:16).  Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm in the Chris Wesleying podcast studio. I'm right next to Patrick Claibon. I'm looking at the beautiful, big old mug of Nick Shook. Beautiful. In Cleveland. He's smiling, despite what's been a tough day for a tough weekend, rather, for Cleveland sports fan. How you doing, Nick Shook?

I'm good. You know, I got to see all three ALCS games live and impersonating great time. Okay, you saw some great baseball games, but this isn't about baseball. And yes, I'll get to the whole like Brett Farr of Jordan Love comparisons. It's got Greg hot today that we were talking about before the game. Greg is fired up about your tweets. But I was especially enjoying this one o'clock window on the East Coast, 10 o'clock on the West Coast.

On paper, we had two of the best games I thought of the year. Would they deliver? Oh, yes, they would. Let's start in Minnesota. So here we go. One play separates the Lions from first place after all that. Darnold's going to work out of the gun. Final play of the game, barring a penalty.

Darnold takes the snap. Back looking, rush comes. Donald hit. Donald down. This game is over. Trevor Nowoski with the sack. Your Detroit Lions are in first place. Oh, Trevor Nahuaski, big play, my man, in a game full of them.

Trevor Nawaski hadn't heard of that young man before Sunday, but I have heard of Dan Miller, WX, Y, T. It was a defensive play that finished off a 31 to 29 victory by the Detroit Lions, a game that featured a little bit of everything, some great rushing, some great quarterbacking, yes, some big-time defensive plays. Great catches by some of the best. best receivers in the game and a great ending authored Patrick Claibon by Jared Goff.

Jared Goff almost did it again, Greg. Almost did it again. I'm looking at the stat sheet. We're calling the game on Game Day Live 19 of 19 in the third quarter. And I'm like, when we come back, we'll see if Jared Goff keeps this perfect game going. You can put that on me, Lions fans, because the very next pass got tipped at the line of scrimmage and knocked out. But that's the type of day it was.

The Minnesota Vikings could not get off of the field. We talk all week, especially me. I'm hyping up the Brian Flores defense because they have been an issue for everybody in the league. They blitzed on a season high, 55.2% of Jared Goff's dropback. That's high. On those dropbacks, he was 13 of 15 for 163 and a touchdown. Wow. Jared Goff laser like right now.

And there was a spot for criticism towards the end of the game. Dan Campbell, there's a minute and 13 seconds left. they are in field gold range and Dan Campbell elects to kneel it out and have the kick be not the final play in the game because there was still going to be 15 seconds on the clock afterwards

but he sends Bates out there has faith in Bates who after the game was talking about you know I'm I'm looking for jobs I'm on Indeed like I'm working at car dealerships I know I would be here answering questions he puts that thing in the back of the net and the Lions win but a

dicey end of game situation but how much Dan Campbell could we possibly be other than having faith in Bates? Yes. And then in a Hail Mary situation, watching what the Buffalo bills did against Aaron Rogers and say, no, I'm Dan Campbell. Aaron, send the house. Yeah. Send five.

Yeah, that was amazing. By Flores, the strategy will get to that in a second. And you mentioned Bates, who was training to be a brick salesman because you don't just become a brick salesman. You got to build that, you know, education brick by brick. To get there. Let's listen to Dan Campbell after the game. Just a great team win, complimentary football across the board,

offense, defense, special teams when we need it most. And really proud of these guys. That's a huge win. On the road, tough environment, first one. And you don't want to say must win, but we needed that in a bad way. Interesting wording there, you know, that he needed it in a bad way. Maybe he's thinking about how that game was going. You know, they lost Dayton Hutchinson, though.

that was an emotional loss. And they were trailing in this game 10-0 early. Then you get a 28 to 17 lead entering the fourth quarter. You give up the lead. And so maybe that's how he was feeling. That would have been a really heartbreaking loss. But no, Gough drives him down at the end. And yeah, too much faith in Jake Bates there,

who's been a little up and down this year. And you would have liked to just finish the game out the way their offense was playing. But you don't get criticized too much if you win. it's interesting on the other side that they were setting up for a potential long field goal and they got a penalty before that last play we just listened to from Dan Miller. It would have been a 68-yard field goal attempt for, how do you say his name? Will Reichard? Reichardt is awesome.

Reichert is one of the best kickers in the league right off the bat. And they say he's got that distance to go 68 that he's hit 70. They thought 73 was too much. So that strategy by Campbell almost, you know, came back to haunt them. Sam Darnold, like, just took too much time on the play before. But, yeah, Nick, the thing I'll take away from this game is, is what Patrick, of course, led with because he's such a talented broadcaster. He knows to go right to the nuts of it all.

It's understealing. It's goff. It's goff outsmarting Floress. Goff and Ben Johnson for the third straight time saying, whatever you're throwing at us, it's not going to work. The old idea of that you can blitz golf into submission, that's not going to work. And his numbers under pressure were really good, too,

because they did get plenty of pressure, and he made it happen with a number of really nice throws and good decisions. Yeah, let's not overlook the fact that he plays behind one of the better offensive lines in the NFL as well. And it was very clear on what I thought was his best decision of the day. The touchdown passed to Amin-Ross, St. Brown, down the middle, where he looks left. The blitz is in his face.

They've sent like five or six guys, and they all run into it just a brick wall of an offensive line. He looks left, resets, sees him down the seam, and then puts the ball perfectly on him. That's who Jared Goff is right now and when he has time to throw and when he's comfortable. And that's why we're seeing these peak results. And make no mistake, they needed every single one of those completions in this game because this was an all-out war. You go from being down 10-0 to then all of a sudden you're up 14-10, then you'll lose the lead again in the second half. You're on the road.

The place is loud. They're blaring that obnoxious horn. And you need a win over your division rival to move into first place. I totally see why Dan Campbell said it was a win that they needed. I mean, this is a, they don't need a turning point, but this was a statement win. And they came off a blowout last week. Not all of them were going to be blowouts. This is a real test, and they passed.

Yeah, Patrick, tell me how the Detroit defense looked, because, look, the Vikings get their first touchdown after a fake punt fail by Minnesota, and then they hit him for a quick, long run by Aaron Jones, who is back for this game, who really helps out their offense. and they get another touchdown on the Ivan Pace fumble return with about six minutes to go, which really felt like it swung the whole game. But offensively, that means they only allowed one other touchdown, the Lions. Like, what was it when Minnesota had the ball? Like, what did you see?

Minnesota was, it was a lot of Justin Jefferson had seven catches on seven targets for 81 yards. I mean, well, seven, eight targets, because that one towards the end was kind of, didn't know Sam Dardo was looking for Jordan Addison or Justin Jefferson. it was one of those high throws from Darnold, but this defense continues to really be without, and we've only seen this is the first game without Aiden Hutchinson,

wait for Brian Branch to make a play. And it's almost since his very first game in the NFL where he picks off Patrick Mahomes, where you've seen guys kind of running the wrong way. Carlton Davis had a punch out that got called back ultimately, but Brian Branch consistently in the right spot.

Terry on Arnold didn't have a lot of those past interference calls. that he had all season, but essentially this team, 32 is the playmaker and everybody else. They played a lot of man today. It was 10.5% higher than at this point last season. A lot of man against the Minnesota Vikings, which is tough to do, consider Justin Jefferson has a thousand yards in his career. Right.

And just eight games against this Detroit Lions team. And Jemir Gibbs pops off for a couple long runs. He's been waiting to have some long runs this season. And he ends up going 15 for 1, 16, and two touchdowns. But just a good football game. And now the onus is sort of on Minnesota. They lost this game, but it just sets up all these NFC North matchups at the top of this division are going to be so good.

I was going to say the Vikings are now going to have to win in Detroit. And maybe that's true, but Green Bay is in this race and Chicago's in this race. Like, who knows what are going to be the big games at the end of the season. Let's move on to the Super Bowl. rematch that happened in Santa Clara. Take it away, Mitch Holtus. 14, 17 to go in the game. Kansas City, 14.

San Francisco, 12. Fourth down, less than a yard for a touchdown. Mahomes takes the snap and wants to throw it. He'll step up into the pocket flag on the play. Mahomes is into the end zone. Touchdown. Kansas City. Patrick Mahomes.

Get this one. His first rushing touchdown. since Christmas Eve of 2022. Patrick Mahomes trucks Malik Mustafa on the goal line and then he stares at him. I think he was staring at him because Mustafa wouldn't let go of his leg. I think he was just absolutely stunned

that he was put on highlight reels for at least the rest of the week. You know that's going to be on angry runs. Maybe for the rest of Mahomes' career because there aren't many plays where Patrick Mahomes runs over one of the toughest players in the NFL. That was Mitch Holtus, as I said. W.D.A. F.

The Chiefs take care of business. 28 to 18 as the weeks wear on. And now I put them second in the show because they're the only undefeated team left. Vikings have that loss. It doesn't even matter. Like if you have a bad game out of Patrick Mahomes with a couple interceptions. You can win in so many different ways. And the Chiefs get better and better.

every week. And that's sort of my biggest takeaway, Nick, that like, yeah, the passing game is going to have some issues. But you can't look at this team now in week seven and not say, man, they look like a better team than they were in week two and week three. So to me, they're no longer winning ugly. They're just winning, playing good football. And yeah, you've got to fix the turnover problem. But to me, it feels a little fluky in terms of Mahomes' interceptions. They got the job done. today. I mean, it depends on how you define ugly because those who like defensive battles say it's beautiful. There you go. Those who like offensive showdowns will say this one was ugly.

It wasn't the prettiest, but it speaks to where the chiefs are right now. We've been down this road before. We were here last season, doubting the chiefs down the stretch. They don't have enough weapons. They're not putting it together. They go on a hot streak. They win the Super Bowl. They're getting hot earlier than they did last year. They're so hot. They're still undefeated, but it's the fact that they can win a game where Mahomes throws two picks because their defense is so good. They force three picks on Brock Purdy and have the entire 49ers offense in hell. And that's the sign of

a complete team. It's a team that's obviously won two straight Super Bowls. They know how to get it done, even on the road. And they come in there when their quarterback's not having the best day, but he still contributes by trucking somebody on the goal line. You get three and a half yards of carry, which isn't great out of Kareem Hunt, but it's enough to steady them. He scores two touchdowns. And you walk away with an emphatic victory

that statistically doesn't look great, but it doesn't matter because you keep stacking those wins. Right. It's a game where there's five interceptions, no touchdown. by Brock Purdy and Patrick Wilms. And it was a reminder for what I saw when I did a Super Bowl rewatch at some point. I think it was in training camp.

And it was a reminder that that was like a very defensive game. I mean, the 49ers defense played more than well enough to win the Super Bowl. And the Chiefs defense obviously did too. And then both quarterbacks had really heroic moments. It was a great game back and forth. This was not a great game back and forth. This was two really good defenses.

and an efficient chiefs offense. So I got some next-gen stats. Okay. Okay. Going into this week, the chiefs actually were second in the league in terms of success rate, behind only the Lions,

who actually had the highest success rate of any team since 2006, which is crazy. So the chiefs are second in the league in success rate. So they're very efficient. When people, I think sometimes commentators

overuse the word efficient, it just means like they're, not that good sometimes. But it's true. The Chiefs are really efficient. And yet they have the second lowest explosive play rate in the entire NFL. So it's what your eyes are telling you. They are just a slow moving offense. Their run game actually this season had the lowest explosive rate play rate since 2006, which is outrageous. They just can't pop like a 10, 15 yard run. Now this game was a little different. Mahomes, he had the rushing touchdown. And I thought maybe the biggest play in the game was where he ran along the sideline when it was very much still up

and doubt. And he did that voodoo where he fakes the pass when he's past the line of scrimmage and the linebacker falls for it anyways. And he ends up with 33 yards down the sideline. That's an explosive run. You got a 20-yard run from McColl Hardman. You had a nice seam ball to Noah Gray. And Somaget, P. Ryan had had a screen pass that went for 22. That counts as an explosive. So they had a couple more big plays today. And yet it's still, is a struggle. Travis Kelsey, you know,

doesn't have a big day, five targets, only 17 yards. And I just look at this running game, Cream Hunt goes 22 for 78. They picked up the yards when they needed it.

And it's like, like, I guess they don't need more. I don't know. Like, I don't know what to make of it. My thought is, Patrick,

that they like, they'll figure out how to get more in the end. And for now they don't need more. Well, it's almost like, so they get that one rushing attempt for Xavier Worthy,

uh coming back around and it's like okay well here's the explosive opportunity right it gets five yards and if it's not xavier worthy then then what are you you're relying on late stage kareem hunt uh to make a play maybe it's patrick mahomes doing the doing the homes had worthy wide open deep and overthrew him that was surprising uh on one play and then they use you know on that play you mentioned to worthy he got hit so hard and it's something that uh beumani jones said that stuck with me on his podcast just like he didn't think zavier worthy would was like just weighed enough to be a regular NFL player like this. And I, in that, that hit made me wonder.

Sometimes you do think like, man, this guy cannot take too many hits. He's going to have to be careful. Well, and I think one day, they could be contextualized there. Musifers hit a lot of people. Yeah. Very hard. He's trying to cover and hit Patrick Mahomes at the same time, like coming back at the goal line.

Like that's tough to do. Yes. And so like, it's a one to one comparison because there were blockers and Musifer alluded to blockers and all of a sudden he's in Worthy's face. and it's like, you know, he's not necessarily trying to run somebody over at that point. It's going to be a slog, right? For Casey, it's going to feel like a slog. Like, I scoffed it.

You guys, you had, I think Cynthia picked 28 points. You picked 25 points in this game. And I'm thinking the Chiefs aren't scoring that many points against San Francisco. No, they just, as you pointed out, efficient, 22 first downs. I mean, they just go out there and get yards. That number says it like what I was just saying. 22 first downs, but only 319 yards, and 8 for 14 on third down.

They've just sort of figured out situational football right now. They have the couple turnovers, and let's, like, be real. It's about the defense. They played press coverage today on 60% of their snaps, their highest rate of the year. They did not allow a completion on those press coverage snaps. O for 5.

First I was thinking, like, how did pretty only get off 5 snaps if they're playing that on, but it's because he was scrambling around, because he's throwing interceptions, because he's taking some sacks, not a ton of sacks, but Karloftus had a big one and had a big quarterback hit in a big spot. And they just didn't value what they were looking at on the other side of the football. And that brings us to the biggest takeaway from this game, which is that Brandon Ayuk left with a knee injury.

And Kyle Shanahan said that he fears it's a torn ACL. Generally, when they say that, that means the initial test. are it's a torn ACL, but the MRI that they do that night or the next day can sometimes tell a different story. That has happened. It's not too often. And that obviously would be just a devastating blow for Brandon Ayuk and this 49ers team. They also were without Debo Samuel for almost this entire game. He was listed with an illness late. It was not on the injury report, but he had something and come up over the weekend. It was also a weekend where Diana Rossini of the Athletic

threw out there that he's a name to watch in trade talks, which I found interesting. I can't imagine that would be the case if Brandon Ayuk is out for the season because they certainly need Debo Samuel. Jacob Cowing stepped in this game. Ricky Pearsall played for the first time as a pro, caught three passes.

Cowing was pretty explosive. But yeah, like one of those three pretty interceptions, Nick, was throwing to Ronnie Bell where Ronnie Bell just looked like he was going the wrong way. The other two interceptions were pretty ugly. Just one bad throw by Purdy and one of his worst games, I would say, as a pro,

and another bad throw where he was getting hit at the same time. But as Tom Brady liked to point out, like he didn't know where he was looking anyways. Tom Brady was very hard on Brock Purdy in this game. And I got to admit, Chuck, I liked it. Yeah, that clip I already saw twice where Tom Brady's just like, Even if he gets a clean throw off, I don't know where he's going.

Brock Pretty has a tendency to have these days against good defenses occasionally. But the whole Devo Samuel idea that he could be traded, it just blows my mind because as soon as you take him out of the game, and especially we don't have Christian McCaffrey, you realize that you've lost the key that unlocks this offense. Why would you even consider tossing the key in the river for whatever you might get out of it? Like that just makes no sense to me at all. And if Ieukes down like we think he is, I feel like that's going to disappear because he's absolutely an essential part, especially if they don't have IU. I think they'd only do it depending if they believe they need something else on their team that they could get back this year for Debo that they could get back.

And I hear what you're saying, Nick, and I think it's true with Ayukah out of the lineup. But he's just been up and down getting them. And maybe there's more to the story than we really know that they would consider that. It might just be about the contract, but I'm with you. It doesn't make any sense. Juan Jennings was also out for this game with an injury. So they were just really shorthand. and Jordan Mason did play despite his shoulder injury,

came up short from a couple touchdowns. They did not run the ball well for most of the game. Popped a couple in the second half, but for the most part, it was their defense just hanging on, trying to keep them in it. But Kyle Shanahan, he just must feel like he's got a Kansas City chief's problem and he's sick of it.

There's no way to sugarcoat that. We got our ass kick today. Lots of reasons for it. But those are things that they don't need to sit and think about today. We'll address all those tomorrow. We'll get together. We'll go through the truth of the whole tape and be hard on each other

and find a way to put it to bed so we can come out here and make sure we put our best foot forward and find a way to get a win versus Alice. Three and four on the season. The 49ers are just not having a good time right now that under wins total I took in the over under wins total draft.

I'm tracking these. That's looking pretty good right now. You know who else is looking good? Jordan Love, let's go to Lambo. Off the left hash for the veteran, 11 years out of Temple. Brandon McManus, Super Bowl winner with Denver. Packers along the sidelines. Hand in hand.

Here's the snap, low snap, placement bay, kick to the upright. And it is good! It is good! Yes! It is good! The Green Bay Packers have won. Brandon McMannis, 45-yard field goal. Welcome to Green Bay.

Wayne Larravee on WR N. W. Yes. Brandon McManus, speaking of setting up kickers in a spot that maybe you're having a little too confident in your kicker. The Packers took a lot of time setting that field goal up and were bailed out, frankly, not just by McManus, but by Romeo Dobbs, who made a fantastic catch. Was it on third down? I don't even know, but over the middle, on a slant to set up that 45-yard field goal. Yes, McManus, the new kicker for the Packers, on a day that Jordan Love made some of the most beautiful throws that you'll ever see. And he had a couple interceptions, as he's wanted to do, hence the Favre comparisons.

We'll get to that in a minute. But my thing, Nick, watching this was, I saw. one quarterback. There's two of my favorite young quarterbacks in league to watch. Two top ten quarterbacks already in my mind. And in your mind, I believe, in the QB index. That's where they're at. I saw one young quarterback

who's getting supported by good offensive line play. That's Jordan Love. By a good running game. Really, that's both of them. And by excellent scheme. Guys getting open, the right talent around him, and cohesion

in terms of being able to pick up the free blitzers, pick up stunts, and being put up in a situation to succeed. That's Jordan Left. We ended up with three touchdowns, 220 yards on the day. On the other side, I saw a quarterback in C.J. Stroud

that is not being set up to succeed when he's dropping back. 10 for 21, 86 yards. And you can put some of that on Stroud, but he was under pressure practically every snap. It looked like their offensive line has never seen a stunt.

in their life, unblocked defenders on every other play. And then running the ball, yeah, you can see that Joe Mixon had a lot of big runs and did have a nice day, but they had a ton of negative runs and a ton of run stuff. They ran the ball on first down nine out of ten times after halftime. So predictable play calling, terrible offense of line play. And to me, that was really the difference because I think both of these quarterbacks were game. They both had great two-minute drives at the end of the game to really set up their teams to win. Stroud had a ridiculously good pass

to put them ahead on a field goal that was before that field goal drive, but it was one-sided to me in terms of the schematics in terms of the offensive coaching. Yeah, and that explains the extreme emphasis on the run, which is that the Texans know their offensive line is not good when it comes to pass protection,

and the only way to keep a defense honest is to get the run game going, which is why they're turning to that so often. But the book is out on them. I hate to say it, but the book is out of them. It's been out on them since that Viking. is lost. They can't pass protect. CJ has been dealing with chaos all season. He does not look like he's playing with the same comfort, not because of him, but because of the offensive

line that he did last year. So everything around him kind of falls apart because they have a lot of weapons around him. They got a lot of talent. Joe Mixon had a nice day, but he's not supported in the same way, like you said. So he's being asked to be a hero because he has no other choice. And that's how you get a stat line in a game like this, you know, against a defense that has recognized that. I go back to the Vikings game because we know Brian Flores loves the blitz. well this game it's not even so much that they needed to blitz it's just the fact that they're getting pressure regardless they blitzed five times and they still got you know a pressure rate of nearly 50% that speaks to your offense of line you're setting your quarterback up for failure

no matter how good he is he still needs time to throw so that's the Achilles heel on them that's that's that's the weakness that people are probably aren't paying attention to that are going to pay attention to it now because they lost a game like this they simulated the pressure on me because i could have sworn they were blitz in the whole game i'm glad you did that but they were showing blitz and Jeff Halfley, their defensive coordinator, got a game ball after the game. I watched the post-game locker room thing. And it was a lot of simulated pressure and a lot of confusion. And as good as the run game looks on paper, their success rate was very low.

Joe Mixon still only 36 percent, six-run stuff. So a lot of run, negative runs that put them in tough situations. And give credit to the Packers defense, which was flying around. And they really should have won this game by more. They lost the turnover battle three to nine. nothing they were put being put in a bad spot once in the red zone on special teams fumble by green bay and then twice on those jordan love interceptions and the defense really stood up tall and won the game yeah it was and it wasn't the traditional muff kick it was ballantine one of the up guys

just kind of being you know it's one of those peter peter peter situations like hey watch out for the football fire fire and no he didn't ball hits him uh texans able to recover that but but again packers defense stands up and you know as you guys talked about pressure when they actually did get pressure, not a simulated pressure. When they actually got pressure on CJ Stroud, he was three of nine with a 48.4 passer rating. That was the type of circumstances he was in.

But yeah, Jordan Love was, it was feast or famine. That was what Mark Ross was saying while we're watching this game on Game Day Live. It was either going great for the Packers and Jordan Love is throwing this dime getting past the fingertips of a defender

or it's gone absolutely horrible. And on the final drive, Jordan Love threw a fade away yolo ball to Don Tavian Wicks that could have easily got picked off and they could have lost the game leading to, you know, some conversation about a certain. Was that the one over the middle, you mean? Yeah, in the end zone. That was a perfect play to bring up because it was like one inch away from being a huge gainer. Yeah.

And not getting tipped and a really nice, but one inch. But it was tipped. And then it was like one inch away from getting intercepted and would have been his third interception on the day. I mean, you're not kidding about the boomer and bust. He had the two interceptions. They also had one, two, four, three, and outs, and a four and out. So, like, this was a game that had a little bit of everything. I think it was a really good game.

A lot of off, you know, not a lot of offense total yards wise. In fact, in the second half, there was a sequence where Texans punted four straight times and the Packers punted three straight times. And yet, there were some beautiful throws by Jordan Love. The touchdown to Wicks was awesome. the dime to Tucker Kraft over the middle was just a beautiful throw and a catch. That's one where I want

to see the end zone angle because I just know it's going to be so pretty. Josh Jacobs ran really well. Joe Mixen is reborn, is running really hard when he gets a little bit of a lane. It was awesome. CJ Stroud, for everything I said that he struggled, like the

throw he had to Xavier Hutchinson, which would have been our highlight to start the game. It was on a third and long totally under pressure, ended up getting the Texans even closer for their field goal, but also killed the clock and took away the Packard's time out. I mean, that was C.J. Stroud in a nutshell. It was a little bit of everything.

It was a fun game. These two teams are five and two. And as I mentioned at the top of the show, and I guess as Mark Ross was saying, yeah, Jordan Love is getting a lot of these Brett Farr of comparisons. And Matt LaFleur doesn't want to hear him. Hopefully we can put him in better situations so he's not throwing, you know, picks. So all you're talking heads out there can ease. on the Brett Favre comparisons.

Okay, now. Now, even LaFleur is jumping in, and I see this on Packers' Twitter, all these Packers fans are like, oh, no, he's another Favre. Like, oh, he's another Fav. Are you crazy? This man won three straight MBPs.

I'm not talking about Brett Fav the man. I'm talking about Brett Favre the player. If you could tell me or Packers fans that you're going to get Brett Favs career right now, he's a first ballot Hall of Fame Like I said, like, what are the best players in the league for most of his career? What are we talking about here? Yeah, you take that.

You take that every opportunity. But I don't know if that's the context. I don't know if that's the context. They're saying, yeah, he's taking a lot of chances. So he's throwing a lot of picks. Like, yeah, that's okay. Like sometimes. Picks aren't like the total end of the world.

The total package is working. And I'm just saying, like, people are using it like a slur when he's an all-time great. Literally three straight MbriPs. He's the only person to ever do that, Nick Shuck. Yeah, he'll break past that if he can actually get rid of the tendency. Because the reason the Packers fans feel this way is because they saw the first half of last season and they saw himself destruct and make, you know, try throws that would kill drives where they just need to get in a field goal range and stuff like that.

If he actually shakes it off over the long haul and wins games like this, even with a pick or two, then you'll take it because the results will follow like they did with Brett Farve. It's just we're so early in that, of course they're going to throw it there and LaFleur is going to It's worth it. I love it. It's entertaining. It's just crazy. Like, people overate interceptions just a little bit.

I was listening to Joe Flacco on Chris Long's, a green light podcast. And Flacco was talking about last year with the Browns just like, hey, he's too old to worry about interceptions. He's trying to win. And I know what he meant. Like, sometimes being aggressive is worth it. And when you're Jordan Love, now is that time. All right, before we move on from this game,

I do just want to hear Stefan Diggs talk about his rivalry with Jeyer, Alexander, they got into a pregame shoving match, and this just made me happy. Credit here to Chancellor TV on Twitter. I was walking to the locker room in the beginning of the game. I heard somebody chirping. I'm never

the bigger person, so that's our gongrel about myself or with a minute. I'm never the bigger person. I ain't let it go. You know, obviously, they picked it up or whatever, but I ain't with the football tough guys. It is what it is. Put it on the wall.

I'm never the bigger person. It's going on a quote graphic and it's going to have some, it's going to do numbers ultimately. I absolutely love it. Yeah, he wasn't. I mean, these two teams were fighting all day long. It was like a rivalry game, except it was Texans, Packers. Finally, just like a little bit of love to this safety group for the Packers. Evan Williams, huge plays in this game, huge open field tackle on a two point conversion.

Xavier McKinney, big time sack keeps getting it done. And like I said, Romeo Dobbs is awesome. Maybe he should have been upset. He should be a big part of the game plan. When they needed to play today, it was to Romeo Dobbs, 8 for 94. But the quality of those catches, the quality of those routes, he was putting people in the dirt. Sometimes it was Derek Stingley, like good players. Everyone got the business from Robio Dobbs, a really underrated player and was really important in winning a game.

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Hurts takes the snap. He's back. He steps up. He lets it go and it is caught. Into the touchdown. A.J. Brown. When there's a question, go to A.J. Brown. You cannot throw a ball anymore perfectly by that.

Mike Quick, he's right And it's what Jalen Hertz thinks Certainly if you've watched the last two weeks of Eagles football 28 to 3 Yes, Nick Siriani Going for in a couple big spots in this game On 4th Down And his team came through for him

A.J. Brown with the 41-yard touchdown reception That was WIP. Of course, Merrill Reese, the great Merrill Reese, starting the call. Saquan Barkley-Patrick returned to the Meadowlands and I didn't watch this game as close as you did. Did we have a lot of shots to the owner's booth

because I don't think John Morrow was happy watching Sequin go 17 for 176 at a touchdown. Yeah, we didn't early. Of course, he came up. He dapsed up John Mauer before the game. There's shots of jerseys being burned and all of that type of chicanery. Well, hopefully somebody got the tattered jersey

out of the fire pit because that made me one. to remember Sequin had his second highest rushing yardage total of his career in his first career game against his former team. And only 17 carries. And a game that started punt, punt, punt. Aziz O'Jolari, Brian Burns, this Giants defense playing well, having to deal with an offense that was really doing nothing.

The Eagles go punt, punt, punt, there's a second down and Sequin pops off for 55 yards. Later on, they score on that drive. Then that next drive, the play that we just saw, the Giants defense, defense forces a fourth and three for some reason they got their fifth stringer matched up against a j brown one-on-one with no help was that like nick mccloud yeah they probably thought they were running it there and they did not they did not they're going to a j as jalen was more than comfortable doing after that it's it's pretty much it's pretty much over uh daniel jones well not daniel jones because eventually uh we did get to see drew lock but eight sacks uh for this philadelphia eagles defense

a litany of players. This wasn't just Jalen Carter going off. This was, I think, six eagles got sacks in this game. When Bryce Huff gets a sack, then you know, it's all happening. Sorry. That's how you know. Bryce Hoff's return to MetLife. I got to say, though, these last two weeks have been really big, I think, for the Eagles

in their defense because they really struggled at the beginning of the year. And yes, you got to play Deshaun Watson and Dana Jones back-to-back weeks. But you've racked up huge sack totals. And they've kind of shown, okay, we can beat up on really bad offenses, which I didn't think this defense necessarily was capable of, and everyone's eating, at least since they're by, as you mentioned, Nolan Smith playing pretty well, too. Daniel Jones gets benched, Nick, and after the game, Brian Dable said Daniel Jones will be his quarterback. The score was 28 to 3 at the time. He said he wanted to see if Drew Locke could

provide a little bit of a spark. Narrator, he did not provide a spark. He did not. He had eight attempts for a total of six yards, so not even Malie. neighbors could save them here. Yeah, really one-sided and really starting to look like that Seattle win was like the high point of this giant season. Yeah, and you know, I love to give their front

a lot of credit because that is the strength of their team. But when your offense is this bad, I mean, look, the Eagles blitzed once. They got eight sacks and they blitzed once the entire day, 2.5% according to next gen stats. Yikes. That's bad, guys. That's bad for a Giants defense that's

lost. Also, can I push back against the spark thing. When has the spark ever worked, coaches? Oh, we're looking for a spark. No, you're just looking for a change because you know what's going on right now is not going to work for you. Rough, ugly day but the sweet, sweet taste of revenge for Saquan Barkley,

God, it's got to feel good to average 10.4 yards of pop against your former team. So he averaged 5.4 for rushing yards over-expected per attempt. Like, that's a good day. That's totally preposterous. He popped three long runs in this

game and he didn't hit any of them for a touchdown. So after the game, he was like, I got to go back and work on that. He said it with a straight face, too. I think he was, I mean, that's serious. Athletes are built different than us. I would have been happy after the game. And I think he was happy, but not about that. Let's actually listen to Sequin. That was crazy. I mean, I've seen my jersey get burned before on social media. But the timing of it, like, I'm locked in. I'm listen to my music and I see like the fans and all I see his fans just pointing and I look I'm like where are they pointing at and I see smoke and I'm just like the my jersey at getting burnt so yeah that was definitely different I don't know if I ever experienced anything like that in my life

and you know hopefully I don't experience that again but uh in that moment I was I was ready for third and one let's just say that uh that is crazy oh they showed it on the jumbotron now I'm picking it out through the context was that's absolutely nuts don't and yes the The drive into MetLife, by the way, the drive into MetLife is unique in that you go around the entire tailgate lot on the team buses. I experience with... Oh, that's what he's talking about.

They will flip the bird at you. You get an up close and personal look at everybody tailgating, and they know that's your bus. So they had that planned. Talk about motivation. Message to every fan. If a former player shows up and he's coming by your tailgate lot, don't burn his jersey unless you want to have a bad day.

Well, not when he's like one of the greatest, you know, players in your history, certainly one of the best running backs that we've seen rough. And yes, I mentioned Jalen Hertz. That sequence to me where he threw that touch on was Jalen Hertz in a nutshell because he passed on a wide open receiver on third down and just held the ball and threw it out of bounds, but then he hits a beautiful go ball. Only throwed the ball 14 times in this game.

Dexter Lawrence, shout out to him. Leading the NFL in Sacks as a nose tackle is just preposterous. Get him some help. Making a run for defensive player of the year as a nose tackle on a bad team that has happened in the NFL before. Can you name the man who did that? Nose tackle on a bad team. I mean, the first interior lineman I think of outside of, like,

Aaron Donald would be like Warren Sapp, but I think we've got to go back further than that. It's Albert Hainsworth. It is Cortez Kennedy. I believe it was a lousy Seahawks team, but he was just so good that they gave him the award. So maybe Sequin, I mean, maybe Dexter Lawrence will get that done. Let's go to Seattle versus the Falcons.

I don't think there's any defensive players of the year candidates in this game. There wasn't a lot of defense, at least not for the Falcons. Three receivers left, Gino from the shotgun, DK, on the numbers, on the right side. Snap. Gino steps up, avoids one man, lays it over the top. Walker, touchdown, C-Hooks. Ken Walker, the third, reaching up, making a diving reception. in the front corner of the end zone from 17 out.

What a drive by the Seahawks. Thank you, penalty. But the Seahawks cash it in and extend their lead, 23 to 14. Ooh, Ken Walker. Getting it done as a receiver. My God. What an improved player.

I know he was good to begin with, but to me he is just a better player than he used to be. 34 to 14 Seahawks offense rolls in Atlanta by the end of this game. Michael Pennix is playing football

at the national professional level here. Nick Shook did not expect this to be this one-sided but it was a good day for my boy Gino wasn't it? Oh,

you're going to love it when you take the deep dive in this game, because this is a classic Gino game. I mean, they had the ball inside of two minutes. There's like eight seconds left in the clock.

He drops back and fires a strike down the middle. field to decay among a sea of Falcons for a touchdown. That makes it 17-7. He drops that dime on Kenneth Walker, who by the way, ran a fantastic route out of the backfield. He kind of like hesitated and just shook the defender there before making that spectacular grab. And then Gino's day is basically done. He doesn't have to do much else because they get a strip sack on Kirk Cousins. It starts off a chain of three straight turnovers. Derek Hall picks it up and rumbles down the field and Witherspoon throws a block on a lineman down the field. I think it was Caleb McGarry

and he gets in the end zone for a 64-yard fumble return, touchdown. And just like that, it's 31 to 14, and the Falcons can say good night. Because they had nothing left to do after that, except, well, Kirk had to throw, let's see, two more picks. One through the hands of Drake London, not his fault. Second one, definitely his fault. Everything unraveled. It was a winnable game, and it suddenly became a very unwinnable game for the falcons. Yeah, I should have mentioned at the top.

This is our Sunday drive presented by the all-new hybrid Toyota Camry. And yeah, we only the best for an epic Gino game. And yeah, maybe this defense can improve too. I think they probably feel fortunate that the Falcons didn't run the ball as much as they could have. Their success rate was sky high. Bejohn Robinson goes over 100 yards. Tyler Algear, 5 for 36. And yet it was kind of a pass-happy effort by the Falcons who, you know, week after week,

I keep looking at that stat in the next-gen stats. Like, play action. Are they doing anything with Kirk again? three for four in this game. And I think this points out kind of their limitations because the Seahawks who are getting gashed by play action all season long, getting gashed by the running game.

But the Falcons don't really have that club in their bag and they couldn't go to it today. Well, they were getting gashed in the run game. Ultimately, what you had, Nick, watching this game was defensive coordinator, Eugene Cyril Smith. Like, Gino was so hot that the Falcons gave up on the run. We're in the second half.

And Bejohn Robinson was averaging seven yards Kerry and Tyler L.G. was out averaging 9. The Falcons were running the ball. Well, Seahawks giving up big plays. They struggled to corral Bejohn in the backfield. But ultimately, when Gino kept delivering time after time after time, the run game just

went out the window and there was that late touchdown to Drake London where the Falcons were in. They were in the game. But the hall fumble return for the touchdown, it just all started to avalanche to the point where the Falcons could do nothing and scramble Kirk

started throwing picks. Yeah, and that's why I led with the Gino pass to DK, because it gave him a 10-point lead and kind of forced the Falcons to be a little bit one-dimensional. They weren't out of the start, out of the half-time. They went 14 plays. Kurt goes 7 for 7. They marched down the field, relatively speaking of me to 14 plays.

And it's an emphatic drive. Like they score a touchdown. I'm like, all right, we got a ball game. They're coming right back. They punch them in the mouth. And the Seahawks immediately respond and score another touchdown. They're just playing catch-up the whole day before, you know, it's a demonstration of how quickly a game can unravel, too.

If you turn the ball over in a back-and-forth affair like this, suddenly you're going to be looking up and you're going to be down by 15, 20 points, and that's what happened. Let's listen to the Derek Hall fumble return touchdown, one of the more exciting moments of the day, and yeah, the decisive moment in this one. Boy, Maffei is in there in an inside rushing position.

Robinson stays in the backfield for Atlanta. Cousin scrambles left side, gets hit, goes down, Mofay ball comes down. Ball rolling, picked up far side. It's hauled out the far side lines. He's going to score. Touchdown. Seahawks.

Derek Hall on the sack by Boyer Maffey. Oh, I love that call from Steve Raveld, K-I-R-O. And yeah, players matter. Having Boyer Maffey back is kind of a big deal. Having Byron Murphy back, kind of a big deal. Draymont Jones goes for six pressures in this game. Leonard Williams, 5, Derek Hall, 7.

So offensive line struggling a little bit for Atlanta. Defense hasn't been amazing all year. and then how confident can you be in your starting quarterback when he's making a sound like this before the snap? Sorry. That's Kirk Cousins.

I just wanted to... Is he saying Carl Schaeffers? No, let's... I mean, that's just... What does he say? Really old school Kirk watchers will know every once in a while. He just has this squeak that comes out.

Let's just listen to it. it one more time when he's called. One more time, sorry. So that's actually the one from Minnesota. This is the Minnesota one. Oh, that's the Minnesota. And then this is the one we heard this morning. Okay.

So is that, I don't know, I don't know if that's intentional or what that is, but I love it. It's like a dog toy that's squeaking when they chew on it. Every once in a while, yeah, a voice cracks. They would happen to Tom Brady. back of the day when he was calling out signals and love that. And Michael Pennix, quarterback controversy,

one for one, 14 yards. I'm kind of glad, shook that both these teams are four and three. That feels the right for them. Like five and two would have been over their skis. Like that long of a winning streak for this falcon team wouldn't have felt right.

A four game losing streak for the Seahawks wouldn't have felt right. They both feel like four and three teams. And they're both, at least the Seahawks are in first place. The Falcons will wait and find out about the bucks. Yeah, the little scorebug during the game and I looked down the record

and I was like, yeah, that's about right. I mean, it's good fun to get back on the winning side of things after losing three straight. I don't know how much I really learned about them other than the fact that Gino continues to be good and when he's not good, they end up losing games.

I think the thing we're going to learn is how much can Mike McDonald problem solve on defense? Like, Seahawks fans were overreacting a little too much to their struggles. Like, it's a long season. Right. And they have a, look,

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where Nick Shook has to talk about the Cleveland Browns. 140 left in the third. It's third down for the Bengals. Third down in four. Burrow catches the shotgun snap. Throws caught by Higgins. Running to the 10. Five touchdown.

Bengals. T. Higgins. High stepping it into the end. zone and now he tosses the ball high into the air as he looks into the dog pound after that touchdown grab that was dan horde and dave lapham of w c k y yeah lapham might be passing scot zolak as the best yeah go he got him it's like way less obnoxious t higgins taking it in t higgins has quietly been awesome this year he is back to 22 t higgins they only scored 14 points on offense, but you get a opening kickoff return for a touchdown, and usually you win

the game, and the Bengals did Browns get a late touchdown from their third quarterback to play today, James Winston. And yeah, let's start there, because that's ultimately the story of the day Nick shook. The Cleveland Browns lost their starting quarterback, Deshaun Watson, to an Achilles injury appears to be a torn Achilles and it's hard not to think about what this all means for him and the team moving forward. Yeah, I mean, we'll learn that over time because there's a lot of money and contract situation, everything else, a lot of decisions to be made. But in the short term, it was, all right, well, we've talked about Deshawn Watson, you know, and his place in this offense being the worst starting quarterback in the NFL. Now he's out. Now let's see what they

look like. And for a moment, Dorian Thompson Robinson gave him a little bit of life. He took off a couple times with some read options and everything else. But he ends up getting hurt too. James Winston comes in. The offense is still not a good operation. Nick Chubb came back, scored a touchdown. That was great, but overall, still not a good group. One cool nugget from research, though, because not often that you see three quarterbacks

attempt this many passes in a game. So according to NFL research, the Browns are the first team to have three different players have 10 plus pass attempts in a game since the Chiefs in week seven of 2008. Could you guess those three quarterbacks, guys? Okay, is Tyler Thigpen one of them? Yes.

Is Brody Croyle one of them? Yes. Holy cow. Can we do this? Damon Heward? Two for two. Oh, he nailed it all three. Let's go.

I can't believe we did that. That's huge. Let's go. We just won the Super Bowl. Because I wouldn't have gotten Croyle. I wouldn't know. Rainbow City, Alabama zone, Brody Croyd. I wouldn't have gotten Croyle, but my teammate picked me up and then I closed that

shit down with Damon Heward. Holy shit. Greg is juiced up right now. Oh, that is nothing makes me. happier than getting some stupid trivia. That's the brightest spot about the Browns, by the way. Their defense is still solid, but they're asked to do too much. Joe Burrow and the offense didn't score anything in the first half. Obviously, you know, he runs into issues against this Browns defense, but they figured out in the second half. Him and Jabbar Chas and Tehiggins, their rapport is almost

unmatched in the NFL, and it was too much for the Browns to be able to stop the second half. The Bengals, man, won two in a row. Let's go. Getting back in the right way. I'm still trying to come down from what just took place here, although I'm sweating a little bit. It is reminded me of the worst quarterback match that I've ever seen maybe the worst game of all time

which was I think that season Brody Croyle versus Kellyn Clemens of the Jets week 16 sickos look up the box score

it was week hard of that game and yeah let's just talk Waptson so the crowd cheers a little so the players

were you know Miles Garrett and James Winston were upset after the game was this something where they're talking about like a small amount of fans cheered

or it was a hard to tell on the television broadcast Nick? Yeah, it was kind of hard to tell. The audio at that stadium's never been good on TV. Unless you, you know, I want to hear people banging on aluminum siding because that happens on 30 times. So, you know, some fans are, are happy when he gets hurt, which you know, it doesn't surprise me. And he's crying going off the field. And I actually thought there was a good chance this was going to be his

last start ever for the Browns. And extrapolating that forward, I actually thought there was an outside chance. This will be his last time he ever plays in the NFL. Because I think there's a chance if he was healthy that when he got benched

that they're not going back to him ever. And if you just ignore the contract, I don't see another team signing him in the future even for like $1 million. It's possible, but I don't if I had to guess, I was leaning on that it was probably going to happen soon,

that he would get bench. Now, one of the reasons I felt even stronger about that was what people were mad about, including Patrick, I disagree with you on this Patrick, that they looked bad because they had Dorian Thompson Robinson as the backup quarterback this game, and then he had to go in and play. For what, you know, this could be a wrong evaluation, but I actually thought them making DTR the backup was a sign that Watson was on a short least because DTR was actually the guy they wanted to see all along. And whether they're right

or wrong about that, I don't know. But Cefansky's been pretty good with the backup quarterback. So I'm not going to have like a hot take about that. So when I saw DTR was the backup, I was like, oh, he's going to get benched this game if he doesn't play well. And then, you know, what happened happened. Well, I think the reason that people would instantly believe that was because they've been kind of making a futile effort on offense for multiple weeks. Yeah. With Deshaun Watson and quarterback. I don't know that. the decision making at the quarterback position in Cleveland is getting a whole lot of trust globally there right now because of that and so i i've seen james once to play a lot of

football i think it's hard to get joe flacco leading this team uh down the stretch kind of out of your mind and famous fits falls into that mold um but ultimately it's it's not a good team they're one and six yeah they haven't had both of their tackles uh play in a game uh all all season long still to this point. It's the positive is Nick Chubb is finally back. He's able to get in the end zone today. That was probably the best Brown's drive of the game, where DTR comes in and relief of Deshawn Watson,

Nick Chub gets in the end zone there. But it's, I think the skepticism about the decision making is just a view of the way people see the decision making of the franchise, including bringing Deshaun Watson in the first. Right. And I almost wonder if him getting hurt. hurt. It's not going to let them off the hook, but it just makes the decision for them. And it makes people forget that this is Andrew Barry who did this. Like, this was the

worst move in the history of the NFL, like without any question. It was that bad to begin with. And I was very strong about it on the show because of everything that Deshaun Watson did off the field. And that's why everyone's saying about the James Winston standing up for his teammate and Miles Garrett, standing up for his teammate after the game, it's like, Oh, they really spoke truth, truth here. And this is powerful words. And I don't, I just don't, I don't buy it because the indignation that they have in this moment about that small group of fans or whatever is so much stronger than anything they ever said about all the women that Deshaun Watson was accused of sexually assaulting or certainly how the organization brought him in or anything. Like, so I don't need to hear it.

You can feel that and you can say whatever, you can say your truth. But I don't need to hear members of the media saying like, oh, this is powerful stuff on a human level. It's like, no, like, just miss me with it because they made a deal with the devil and they're paying for it. And the injury put that to the side. That sort of has nothing to do with it in this case to me because this decision was over with. like as a complete and utter failure that normally would get everyone fired. Maybe the, like, we don't know who actually made that decision and maybe that changes. And now the Browns just are going to move forward in whatever way that is.

And I think it's going to be a way where they get this like cap space through insurance money potentially. And they figure out a way to maybe trade him to another team and give away draft picks. And it's just like a Brock Oswald thing. Who knows in the future. But that's all in the future. For now they got to live through this, you know, what's been a miserable. season. Yeah, I mean, they're not a good team.

Like Patrick said, they're not a good team. They're especially not a good offense. Jerry Judy threw his helmet at the bench after a possession today, and that was after Watson was out. We've talked about this for weeks. This is nothing new. It will be interesting to see if, you know, it ends up being James in that job and whether they can do anything

because the best they've looked all year offensively is when James has been on the field in that small sample size. But yes, you're right. He's the only healthy guy anyways. Rob, DTR had 24 throws with two interceptions and 82 yards. So that was an unmitigated disaster for the most part. He was their leading rusher. Nick Chubb got the touchdown,

but didn't do a lot on the ground 11 for 22 in his first game. Bengals fans are probably like, you're not giving us any love. It was an ugly game. You got Higgins and Chase. You only scored 14 points in offense. Your defense has showed like the Eagles the last couple of weeks that they can really stand up against lower tier offenses, and that's a good sign.

And maybe it's something to build off Sam Hubbard. certainly has played better, but you had 12 first downs. You know, so that's, and you lost Orlando Brown to an injury. So there's some concern there. I just thought the Watson thing ultimately was the bigger story coming out of this game. And the Bengals, look, you got your win. You're three and four. You are back in the mix.

If you look at their schedule, they got a chance to go on a little run. I think they get the Eagles next. That'll be interesting. Let's just since that was a wholly negative recap here, let's listen to our friend, Andrew Siciliano, and what was the nicest moment here for the Browns today. It is fourth down. DTR is the quarterback. Brown's going to go with the eye again.

Swain, the tight end is the upback. Nick Chub, dots the eye. Pitch left. Nick Chubb, running left. Nick Chubb is in. Touchdown. Nicholas, Jamal, Shubb. Welcome back.

And welcome back to the end zone. awesome call there by Andrew on WKRK and yeah one other small injury note gino stone of the bengals got hurt late in this game so that's something to watch in their secondary let's go to another one-sided game let's go to buffalo second and ten from the 12 play clock down to five allen in the shotgun takes the snap blitz coming fires over the middle for amari super cooper for a 12 yard touchdown Touchdown reception. Yes, Amari Cooper is a member of the Buffalo Bills, and he's out here scoring touchdowns. His first ever catches a Buffalo Bill is a touchdown. That was Chris Brown of WGR.

What if I told you that the Tennessee Titans were ahead, 10-0 in this game? What if I told you? Eric Roberts, our producer, was sweating it out here at halftime. They were trailing 10 to 7. And then what if I told you the Buffalo Bills looked like the Super Bowl contenders that they are after halftime

and absolutely bumrushed this Titans team. It was like they just flipped a switch and started trying. The yardage in the second half at one point was 216 to 10. And yeah, Amari Cooper had a drop early, Nick. And it was reminding me of his

Browns days, like a drive ended on a bad Cooper drop. I was like, uh-oh. But rest of the game, four for 66, including a couple really nice grabs, including one kind of behind his body, nice hands catch. And yeah, the Bill's offense was rolling against what had been a really good Titans defense in the first half and really the most of this season. Yeah, and a quick turnaround on a nickname, too. Amari Cooper's been a bill for less than a week and he's already super Cooper. So hat tip to you guys, too. I mean, this is what the bills can do. It is impressive that it came against this Titans defense because

that's been their strength all year. While their offense has struggled, no matter who's playing quarterback. Their defense has been very consistent. So to get blasted like that in the second half is very disappointing, but then again, this is a team that's one in five. And when stacked up against Super Bowl contenders, push usually comes to shove and the better team emerges. And that's kind of what we saw

from today from Josh Allen. You love it statistically. 21 to 33, 323, two touchdowns. All right, Josh, back on the horse. Give me a reason to move you up the QB index this week. He was fine. It was great in the second half. They started the game with three straight, three and outs. They were disjointed where even when he was protected well, he like wasn't

finding open receiver. So they punted five out of six drives in the first half. And the only offense they were really getting were from these kind of scramble drill plays to Keon Coleman, which worked all day. Ultimately, they had those three and outs. Nothing was going on. And then Keon Coleman shakes loose where the Titans defense just loses track of him to get 40 yards. James Cook scores on the next play. And then Buffalo proceeds to score every score for the remainder of the game. It was 34 and answered points. Wow. Down 10 nothing to winning 34 to 10 where you see the promise of Amari Cooper's route running on the touchdown. It kind of frees Kian up to do the things that Kian kind of excels

at and where it's not Kian outside having to get open against the one and versus a, you know, a good opportunity against the Titans team that's playing their backup quarterback. I don't know. You can make the case that Mason Rudolph might give the team a better chance to win. I would make that case. Well, Levis, okay, the case has been made. But regardless, a good opportunity to work Amari Cooper in. And the results have us feeling a whole lot better about the Buffalo. Yeah, Levis was a kind of surprise late week, inactive.

I watched that Titans game later in the week. And that was a cry for help from Levis. Now, he might have been playing hurt with the shoulder injury. And that was part of it. But it was one of the worst games I've seen by any quarterback all season. And Rudolph was better for them and kind of avoided making the mistakes that killed that would kill you. He did have an interception, but their offensive line was terrible. So I'm not putting it too much on him or like Tony Pollard. I swear Tony Pollard's playing like a

pro bowler. Yeah. Like maybe the best that Tony Pollard's ever played. And then that results in 16 for 61. The offensive line was just dominated in this game. And that's, that's what the bills will give you. Like people are so caught up on the wide receivers, but their defensive line is winning week after week. Greg Russo had six quarterback hits in this game. That's the most of any player in any game all season. He was awesome. AJ Epinessa was awesome. Ed Oliver's playing well. And then the offensive line is protecting Josh Allen against a pretty

good pass rush. Like tons of time giving him time to find Dalton Kincaid down the field. Kalio Shakir plays well. Like, I thought it was really impressive. One thing to keep an eye on is DeAndre Hopkins only had one catch for negative two yards and was out late in this game. He said it was soreness. He's getting talked

about as a trade candidate. I don't know. I was kind of wondering. That feels strong. I don't know if they're going to get much. kind of wondering here it was like a veteran thing where the game was over and they were just kind of sitting them and you know take take them out at the end of the game and yeah it's ugly we'll see if rudolph gets another start not sure if it matters too much by the way uh nick fulk has hit 80 straight kicks under 40 yards they said that in the game and i was like wait what he said 80 straight field goals under 40 yards 80 that's 240 points how many years is that over

That's just an amazing feat by Nick Folk. So I just wanted to give Shout out to Nick Folk. Him a little bit of love. Bill's at 5 and 2. And right now, in control of the AFC East. We'll take a quick break and we're going to go to the NFC

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One man to meet. He does. Streaking down the sideline. 30, 20, 10, 5. Touchdown! Touchdown, Washington. Unbelievable. That was Dante Fowler on the 67-yard interception.

Return Bram Weinstein, WBIG. The commanders put it on the Panthers, 40 to 7. Not shocking, I guess, knowing these two teams, but a little shocking that Jaden Daniels was only in this game for one drive, a field goal drive, left with the rib injury. They said they'll do further tests, but there's been multiple reports, including from our Cam Wolfa NFL Network,

that it's nothing serious. So a rare game shook where your franchise quarterback gets hurt and you can still enjoy yourself. And Cliff Kingsbury's offense proves to be quarterback proof. Let's go down the drive chart.

First drive, punt, three and out, right? Then we go, touchdown, field goal, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, field goal, end of game. Marcus Mario came as a veteran backup as he should. He was improvised and he was dotting the field with throws.

They were running the ball with authority with Brian Robinson. They couldn't be stopped. They were on fire, and it helps when you pick off Andy Dalton twice in the first quarter and bury the Panthers before they even have a chance to get out of bed. Wow. Mario da in this game,

nice spot for him. I mean, you get to play against the Panthers, sure. But to go seven for nine for 127 yards on throws, I think it was over 15 yards or over 10 yards. So these weren't just... No, not dinking and dunking. and dunks, you're right about it being quarterback proof. Like, I saw it like early in this game, Terry McLaurin had one for three yards about

halfway through the third second quarter and the score is already 20 to nothing at that point. And I'm thinking, oh, I made a mistake starting scary, Terry, you know, today in fantasy, he's going to end with one catch for three yards because they're just going to run the ball the rest of the game. But no, he ends up with six for 98 and Mariotta and they were throwing the ball the whole game. I appreciate it. Thank you, Cliff Kingsbury.

Thank you, Marcus Marriota. Put on the gas all game, baby, because they don't stop. It doesn't matter if, you know, Jaden Daniels is in or Marcus Marriota's in or if they're up by 30 points. It does not matter. In fact, at one point, the broadcast team was like, hey, Marcus got to be a little careful here. We don't know if Jane Daniels is going to be out multiple weeks. He can't be taking hits like this because he's scrambling too and all over the field.

It was probably the-Margis Mario has never been careful and he never will be careful. No, he won't. This is the guy who caught his own pass and dough for the pylon for a touchdown. This guy does not know how to be careful. Hand got in when it works. Yeah, it got in. Yeah, he got in. Yeah, most lopsided game I think I've seen all year. The Panthers are a bad football team. They're undoubtedly the worst football team in the NFL. And I'm kind of curious about what their plan is with Bryce Young because they were down by so much you thought, well, third quarter, late third quarter put them in.

They put them in for the last drive with like three and a half minutes left. He finished two for two for negative four yards. That's not going to help the kid. So I don't know what's going on there, but they're not a good football team. We already knew that. They said they would keep playing Andy Dalton. What do you think? At a certain point, help your football team.

Like playing Andy Dalton right now, does that get any part of the best case scenario considering the Panthers are at 1 and 6? Get Bryce Young, some good reps. And if you don't want Bryce Young to be a part of your program anymore, try to get some value and demonstrate value for Bryce Young and get him somewhere else. Well, the problem with that is thinking that any of these quarterbacks

could succeed. this is just mistake after mistake after mistake in terms of personnel and switching coaches and like Andy Dalton's 11 for 90, 16 for 93 yards and two touchdowns, a QBR of three. I don't know if I've ever seen that before. I mean, they can't do anything. So why would it work with?

It's not going to work with either. That's what I'm saying. It's not where we need to see more Andy Dalton. Is this? No, don't go back. We need to evaluate Andy Dalton's performance in this offense where you're playing up against a Marcus Mario-led commander's team

where we just talk like Marcus is high-fiving celebrating up and down the field. He's almost leading the team and carries. He's got one less carry than Brian Robinson Jr. ultimately at the end of the game. It finishes with 11. B. Rob had 12. But I'm just

I'm not sure what we're getting and what the value is. Yeah, none. I mean, this team stinks. They've been outscored 257 to 96. So you feel for Dave Canales, but you also have to recognize he's not doing a good job

that the situation and the structure and everything that they've set up that they decided to go with continuity in their front office and you know you have to look at the top of like how an organization gets to this level and as Joe Person writes every week for the athletic there is no rock bottom like people like to say

oh this is rock bottom. It's like no just wait till next week. Right? And what? They exactly. exist in rock bottom. Right. And Washington is an example of like how an organization can change on a dime like that if you get the quarterback pick right along with

a coaching staff. And look, they've done a good job. Their defense, I know it's been beating up on bad offenses for the most part, although they did pretty well against the Cardinals who are their defense has really improved the last three weeks. It's a fun matchup next week. Caleb

Williams will see if Jaden Daniels is back for that game. Let's Let's listen to the good vibes with Dan Quinn in that locker room. We got stronger this week. All right. We said we had to. We find those edges, all right? To say, can we find the next gear?

And you did that tonight, man. So you got a tough one guy set it off today. All right? Pick six. That is a custom celebration for Frankie Louvoo. And it's cool because Dante Fowler wears six and got to pick six. There we go. Commander Social right there. Appreciate the footage.

I watch a lot of these locker room and I just think, I mean, every winning locker room's happy, but I think the commanders are the happiest. They have the best vibes right now. They are winning the vibe off. Let's go to London where good vibes in the crowd before the game, not such great vibes for these two teams. booming punt all the way down to the four for Parker Washington. He gets out to the 10 to the 15.

He's got blockers. 25, 30, 40, 50. It's only the punter there. He's going to go all the way. 30, 25, 20, 15, 10, 5. Touchdown, Jacksonville, as he stopped at the end zone, falls backwards into it. And that's a huge, huge play in terms of the momentum of this game.

Parker Washington is taking it all the way from the four-yard line, 96 yards for the Jacksonville. Jaguar's touchdown. Oh, yeah, Parker, Washington. Thank you for giving us a highlight. Thank you for giving us the first special team's touchdown in London Games history. And thank you to Will Gavin of Talk Sport. Nay, Will Gavin of NFL Daily last Sunday's recap show.

He did a bang-up job, and now he's doing play-by-play over there. Yes, the London games are over for the year, and they were treated. to an excellent performance from their hometown Jaguars. 32 to 16 in this matchup. Jaguars win. We got some good quarterback play. We got some points. We got a long touchdown.

We got a Will Gavin. Radio call. What else could we ask for Nick Shuck? Actually, honestly, I don't think anything. I think it was perfect. Well, unless you're a Patriots thing. A closer game, better teams. I'm saying in the situation we were given,

I'm giving it eight and a half out of ten. Something about the Will Gavin call there. It was like music to my ears. It was almost like poetry. And Parker Washington is the perfect name for a London game. It was fantastic. Fielding at punt on the four yard line watching as I'm getting ready for work. I'm like,

because the game starts with a long Patriots drive, ultimately concluding in a Jamichael hasty touchdown. And I'm thinking, this is the Jags. This is the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars. And I was just so ready for disappointment at every available opportunity. And Parker Washington goes to catches that ball at the four. Oh, here comes a muff or something.

He's going to, the teammates going to run into him. The ball's going to pop out. Patriot is going to score. No, not today. Today was a day for the Jags and a lot of success. Parker Washington, emblematic of that. And also a nice game from Brian Thomas Jr. as well. Good to see good Jags.

Congratulations, Doug Peterson. Yes, Doug Peterson. with that NFL network halftime interview with Steve Weish back-to-back weeks, and really their trip could be told by those two interviews. The first one,

I heard someone say, like, people don't need to worry about, man, who was it? That the Jags quitting on him. They got to worry about Doug Quitty on the Jags. He seemed sick of his players last week, and in general. And this week, though, after a second quarter

where, yeah, I think they put up 24 points in the second quarter after falling down 10 to nothing, they needed that. And yeah, you mentioned it. The Patriots started this game looking very good on offense,

two long drives for 10 points. They get the 10-0-0 lead. But like it's been the rest of the year, it's not one thing for the Patriots. Everything's bad. Now their quarterback's pretty good. Drake May is playing well. But their defense is one of,

if not the league's worst. Their special teams are terrible. You just saw it. And yeah, in the secondary, I just want to give some love to Brian Thomas Jr. I mean, him getting open against Christian Gonzalez and the late hands contested catch for a big play down the field, then just a fantastic route where I swear Gonzalez didn't play these two plays badly. He was in good position.

And good offenses beats good defense sometimes. And a great two-point conversion. He finishes five for 89 for a touchdown. He is legit. Tank Bigsby ran hard as hell. gets 118 yards for two touchdowns. And Trevor Lawrence played awesome. Led the NFL and EPA on this Sunday.

And so, yeah, they need to be an offense first team shook. And they were. They really dominated the game when they had the ball. They just did not let the Patriots defense get off the field. Yeah, I think they had a stretch in the second half where they ran the ball like almost 20 straight times. That is an emphatic run right there. Tank Bigsby, by the way.

We lose sight of the players who are performing well on bad teams, right? and the Jaguars of 2 and 5 still qualify as a bad team. But you have Brian Thomas. He's gotten the traction because he's a rookie receiver. He's the latest example of a receiver that's almost a finished product coming out of college. That's just the generation that we're dealing with now at receiver. But Tanks, Tink's been playing well all year. I mean, he's been outperforming Travis E.TN.

ETN doesn't go today. It takes time to shine. He shines on the international stage. So let's give him a little tip of the cap. People pay attention to him. If you're playing fantasy, pick him up. Right. It almost could have been worse in this game.

On that drive where they just kept running and running and running and running, they ran one too many times and got stopped on a fourth and goal inside the five. And so the Patriots had a little bit of life. And Drake May led them on a scoring drive. My Drake May review, he's the only good thing about this team. I think this game was different where the highs weren't as high and the lows weren't as low. And he just, for the most part, made good decisions. It was inaccurate a couple times.

Could have been pecked off once or twice. And then people, you know, the box score wouldn't look as good. but overall, he has zero running game. You know, Ramandre goes seven for 18, zero schematic help, no offensive line help, and his defense is terrible. So I have major doubts about this coaching staff, and Gerard Mayo has major doubts just about everything right now. What I would say is, look, we're a soft football team across the board.

We talk about what makes a tough football team, that's being able to run the ball, that's being able to stop the run, and that's being able to cover kicks, and we did none of those today. They controlled the ball for most of the day. You know, their run game averaged over four and a half yards of carry. Our run game, not sure what the average was, but it wasn't good. No, it was not.

It was 2.5, by the way. And it would have been a lot lower, if not for Drake May's couple scrambles. Drodmeo gets mad, and I like that he just speaks his mind and says what he says, but when he says, we're sloppy and there was a ton of offensive, like, pre-snap penalties. And when he says, we're soft, like, he's saying, I'm soft, I'm sloppy because that's what he's coaching right now. They are not a well-coached team. Let's go to Indianapolis, where they couldn't open the dome on a beautiful day. Technical difficulties for the second time this year. Let's get that cleaned up Colts, but at least they cleaned up their defense. 9.15 and counting here in the

third quarter. Richardson out of the gun, ball in the far hash. Two receivers go to the left, one goes to the right. Richardson. Got it's right up the middle. Touchdown. The Red Sea parted. and it's Tyler Goodson, right up the gut from seven yards away. Touchdown, I-N-D-Y. It's 10 to 9 on the Rua-Borgate scoreboard. WF-N-I Matt Taylor. Every time I look up the last three weeks, Tyler Goodson's making a play. He's a player.

Got juice. Got a little bit of juice. For the Trey Sermon. Colts get another win without Jonathan Taylor, this time with Anthony Richard. Richardson, 16 to 10. Patrick, you like my theory. This was a big game in the AFC because these are two teams that I don't think have played really well.

And one of them was going to come out of this game, like in good shape, playoff-wise. And the Colts have a winning record, even if it hasn't been pretty. And it holds true. It holds true. And after the game, you look at the way that things line up where Anthony Richardson did not have a great game. He had a fumble in the red zone. Both of these teams committed a litany of turnovers, bad turnovers.

There was a fullback fumble. that came out from, I'm blanking on the fins. Alec Ingold had a fumble and got punched out by the Colts defense. Richardson had his bad one, but ultimately kicks. Matt Gay hit a 52-yarder to go in to the break. Jason Sanders had one slide off to the edge. And ultimately, that turns out to be the difference. Anthony Richardson solid in the run game as well today,

wound up being the leading rusher, got 56 yards, on 14 carries, but it was one of those type scattershot games where the Colts kind of showed their weaknesses and a weak team going up against a two lead dolphins team. This is easy Finns win. The win that we've seen the past few years. But without even Tyler Huntley, because Tim Boyle's in this game late shook, this is what we get from Miami. Yeah, it's well concerning from a Colts perspective, just because I'm sitting here thinking, look, you're playing Tyler Huntley and Tim Boyle and you can only buster this. This Miami defense is not that good what is going on with this offense, Anthony Richardson.

He finished his 10 for 24 for 129, but you added, you know, the 56 yards in the ground. So he did his part. It's just that, you know, he comes back from missing a couple of weeks and they're not the same well-oiled machine they were with Joe Flacco, at least through the air. But it's still a harder and win because you hold the opposition to 10 points. Your defense has given up massive sums in many games this year, including that loss to Jacksonville. So it's a small victory on top of the actual victory. From a dolphin's perspective, you get, you know, almost 200 rushing yards between.

the combination of A. Chan, Moster, Jalen Wright, and then another 20 from Huntley before he leaves, and yet you still only get 10 points. Like, I feel very bad for Dolphins fans right now because they are just stuck in this waiting game, waiting to see when, and if and win, too, it comes back, and until then, they're just not a high potential offense. Well, they're only going to wait another week,

according to expectations. He's eligible to come off IR next week. Diana Rossini reported that the expectation was he was going to play next week, and Mike McDaniels kind of telegraphed that. I have a missive from the future, Nick. Tua's not saving this team. This team has so many problems.

I'm not buying that Tua is going to, like, Mike McDaniel's not coaching this team well at all. The fact that going to the backup quarterback causes your passing game to collapse this much, I don't think Tua is going to save it. It'll be significantly better, but they need it to be great or even good. And I have doubts about that.

Any system where Jalen Waddle and Tyree Kill go two for 19 combined, Tyree Kill didn't have a catch in this game until there was like two minutes left. I think they're going to have issues. And offensive line is one of the reasons why the backup quarterbacks are struggling so much. They're just, it's not a well-run, well-coached team. I know the defense has been a little better the last couple weeks, but I don't know, man. OBJ comes out there, has a couple targets, has a drop. He made a little cameo.

I just, something's off with this team. any other coach I think we'd be getting on if their backup quarterbacks were like this bad. It shouldn't be this big of a cliff, right? No. Every time I see a shot of Mike McDaniel on the sideline, he just looks lost. He looks like he doesn't know where he is

or he doesn't want to be there if he knows where he is. I saw him laughing with Tyree Kill and Waddle. Yeah. They actually were like in a good mood. At that point they were winning the game. They were up 103 in this game. And they were all kind of like laughing. And at that point, Waddle and Hill, I think, had no catches.

So I was like, what are they laughing about like, are they like laughing about how we like our quarterbacks can't get us the ball? Yeah, that would be my guess. Yeah, maybe it's Tim Boyle. They're looking over. It's like, wow, yeah, this is a rough one for tip. How's he still here? There's so many different ways that you could take the Miami Dolphins offense. It wasn't good against better teams in the stretch where Tua was there.

Now that I do think the difference is at least at least two touchdowns in this game. Right. sure it would have helped at the very least it would have helped uh in this game but yeah there's there's overall problems and teams go through lulls we've we've seen contenders go through lulls the bills just went and got amari cooper in the middle of one of their lulls and yeah saw them explode out of that their season's been a lull though so we'll see i mean but i'm looking forward to him returning because it gives us another team otherwise this this team is just like a dead team walking devon a chan after the game and yes they started running the ball better last week so that's a really

good sign. Devon H. Ann said after the game, it's not like teams are better than us. Like all these losses we're losing are one-score games. No, you got... At some point, you got to... But no, wait, no, no, but it's actually just factually, completely untrue. They lost

31 to 10 to the bills, 24 to 3 to the Seahawks, and 31 to 12 to the Titans. So, literally, this was their first time that they had a one-score loss. They've gotten crushed every week. They've been one of the worst teams of league. So maybe they're lucky to be two and four their season is not quite over. That is true as well of the winner of the SoFi Bowl. Yes, it's Raiders.

Rams, one of these teams needed to get a W in and keep their season alive. 128 on the clock. No timeouts remaining for the visitors. Snap back. Rams coming after them. Minchew to his end zone. Now floods right. Points downfield. Crows against his body. It's intercepted. Take it away to get at the 30. This game is over. Jalen McCullough calls. Love that call for my friend J.B. Long on KSPN. J.B. Long going to be joining me on the TNF recap this week, Vikings Rams. So check that out later in the week. And that game's going to mean a little bit more for the Rams because they got their second win of the year, 20 to 15. It was fitting. Patrick, that the defense did it because this was a rare Rams win that was led by the defense. They got stops all over. over the place. The 20 points that the Rams scored on offense were all off turnovers that the Rams defense created. And coming into the game, I'm thinking Jared versus going to have a great game. We were all celebrating and wide eyed at the

Aiden O'Connell stat about zero scramble yards in his entire career. But then Aid O'Connell's knocked out of the game. So in comes Garder Minchu and you're like, oh, I got some more mobility back there. Jared Verse had nine pressures. Oh my God. game on 36 pass rushes. He was dominant. Minshu did the Minshu thing where now you've got this injury to Aiden O'Connell. A couple of Wittodi candidates

were added to the list of this week. Wadotie is the worst throw of the year, just to be clear. But yes, Gardner Minch's first interception was his specialty, the combination of awful decision and awful execution. Yeah, roll into the sideline. You're going to have to either put that ball in the stands

or throw it in a very small spot. Instead, Alex, to throw it directly to the defender, which is now something that's happened twice on the season for Gardner Minshu. The other applicant was Andy Dalton today. But just a rough game where you think the Rams have this game in the bag, but some late effort from Alexander Madison and Brock Bowers, who is essentially this entire offense, 10 catches for 94 yards, doing all he can with not a lot around him,

including at the quarterback position, either one of them, sure. Yeah, it's, I swear, every time I watch the Raiders, I just realize that Alexander Madison and Brock Bowers are the only things that are worth watching offensively, especially now that Devante Adams is gone. I mean, the, that's being kind to Alexander Madison. That's like, no one said anything that nice about Alexander Madison. Wow, he's fine. I just mean, like, I'm not like getting off my catch. Sorry, Nick. That's how low they are. That's how bad this offense is, especially after losing Devante Adams.

You just don't have a lot of options and especially the complete instability at quarterback. So it was interesting to see how they'd match up against this team. And you're right, Patrick. I love Jared Verst since he was at Florida State. I thought they had a steal of a pick in him when they got him in the draft. And he balls out today. He's been having a pretty good year overall. But in this matchup, you're looking at the Rams,

who also lack talent at receivers still. And they have to claw their way into this game to be able to win this game. I mean, you know, you finish the Raiders turn the ball over four times and you'll win by five points and it comes down to a pick at the end of the game. I mean, like, it's the state of both these teams. Yeah, that's a good call. Stafford only ends up with 154 yards in this game. He has an interception.

Minshu ends up with 154 yards on 34 attempts and three interceptions. One of the worst stat lines of the year. Brock Bowers is the best tight end in the league. I just believe it. At least just receiving tight end. I don't know if you want to like, you know, he doesn't block as much. I don't know. I think he's that good.

He's that talented. Love watching this kid play. And I did get some notes from Jordan Rodriguez, who was, you know, at this game, obviously. She noted, you know, the changes they've made in the secondary for the ramps have really paid off. They've got Cam Curl closer to the line of

scrimmage. They've got Quentin Lake is now playing there and it's kind of lining everyone up and it's helping the communication. Darius Williams, Kobe Durant, had a monster game here. So they've been way more cohesive and yes, it was against the Raiders, but they did it against the Packers too. And they looked like they were figuring it out then. So

I think the offense, though, she says it's not just about the injuries they're missing a lot of assignments and cooper cup is expected to return on thursday and so that's going to help but but in her opinion you know cooper cup is not going to just fix all the issues they are having a lot of problems and you're shaking your head nick shook offensively they're not they're not where they were a year ago it's really kairn williams and that's about it yeah i mean even stafford in the last couple weeks has tried his best to throw them to victory or throw them into a competitive situation. And, you know, he threw a pick today. And more often than not, it's kind of burned him in the last

few weeks. And you look at them overall and you think, well, injuries and everything, they kind of look like a bad football team with a good quarterback who's kind of doing too much to try to keep them alive. So it's good to see them win this game. But like, I really need them to support him a little bit better so that he doesn't have to play hero ball every week. Right. They, their defense really carried the day today, gets them to two and four and gets them at least trying to stay relevant ahead of this trade deadline. They're an interesting team to watch. There are some reports that Cup could be available. That would be interesting. There are a team certainly that would think about it. It's a big game for them Thursday night against the Vikings. And yes,

Jordan points out that Stafford might be playing his way off of QB Island. But he's got one more game before we vote again. Great performance today by Patrick Claibon. But most importantly, Great performance by Patrick's kids who are back in the control room. Extended scream time. They're doing great. Yeah, well, we'll see. We got a daddy is amazing.

There's a lot of buttons back here. They are in awe of the studio. It's the upset of the year that none of those buttons have been not just pressed, but smashed, especially by the big... No sticky buttons. They've been awesome. I love it. And, yeah, thanks to Patrick for... For showing up for work when, hey, no child care help tonight.

Angel City's playing, and you're in the studio, so I appreciate you. And speaking of kids, actually, that reminds me we were doing the Lions game earlier, and I was going to play a message I got from Walker, just unprompted. He sent me a voice memo during the game. So let's see what he had to say. Oh. Jamir Gipps I'm going to have a man to make up a red

Camar Gibbs Pops you Eat your face Oh yeah You said about four more of those Because he has Jemir Gibbs on his fantasy team And I was going up against Jemir Gibbs And he was enjoying that performance

It wasn't my team he was going against But he knew he knew what he was doing He loves to rub it in And we're going to take prom walker all right so we're going to say goodbye to the claybonds and we're going to finish off this show

with a little Sunday night football shook stick around Wilson gets the snap looking looking firing has Jefferson touchdown Pittsburgh Steelers and that's what you wanted to see that is just a great

throw a great confident throw by a quarterback and I'm not just disabusing anything that Justin Fields has done, but that's a solid out pattern to Jefferson, and what a great catch, and what a nice, ah, exclamation point on it. That was the exclamation point on a 37 to 15. Steelers victory on Sunday night football. Hell, they added another exclamation point. Give it the double slammer later in the game.

Najee Harris got in two, a second half to remember. a blowout victory for the Pittsburgh Steelers shook and didn't expect the score when it was 15-6 and the Jets had the ball with one minute left in the second quarter, but that's what happens when you go to Accrescher in the middle. That's what happens when you go to Mr. Unlimited. There you go. And he drops 31 straight on you. The Steelers' offense humming for the most part.

He's dropping dimes all over the place with the touch pass that, not to take. away from anything from Justin Fields, just like you heard on the call, but I don't know if there's a couple of throws that Russell made that Justin was able to throw. That's what he brings the offense. They get it done in the red zone. They add the caper at the end. Tell you what, those who criticize this switch, myself included, well, we're eating a little bit of crow. It's only one game, but we are eating a little bit of crow because they looked real good on offense tonight. Yeah, it was a different Steelers offense. Over 400 yards, you know, the top 32 points for the second week in a row. First time they've done that without Ben Rob,

Rathosberger at quarterback since Cordell Stewart back in the day. Flash. Look, I don't think we need to overreact. Russell Wilson played well in the second half. I thought his biggest completions weren't on great throws. A couple underthrown passes where Pickens comes back for the ball. Friamuth has an insane one-handed catch. Calvin Austin makes a great catch.

The offense was just better overall. The offensive line was good. Nage Harris ends up getting 102 yards. Jalen Warren makes positive plays for a seemingly. the first time all season. Maybe he's getting healthy. And yes, Chris Collinsworth pointed out late in the game. They just got a little more vertical and everyone stepped up.

Russell Wilson started the game so poorly, the crowd was booing him out of the stadium after four or five drives. It's crazy how quickly this changes. And that's why I go back to that 15 to 6 score late in the first half. I'm not going to kill Aaron Rogers for the throw that Beanie Bishop picked off. There's a one-handed play by Bishop. he ends up getting a second interception later in the game off a drop on a throw that goes right off Garrett Wilson's chest. The first throw is also to Wilson.

But that play by Bishop, they end up capitalizing with a nice touchdown from Russell Wilson, the pickings that cut the lead to 15, 13 at halftime. And it really changed the game. So to me, it was the total team. The Steelers defense is better than the Jets. This Jets defense is not good stopping the run. and tonight they had players hurt in their secondary and they weren't good stopping the pass either whereas the Steelers defense

gives you all you can handle very physical Deshawn Elliott's back there hitting T.J. Watts doing T.J. Watt things. Alex Highsmith was active in this game. Ogun Joby and they're just a pretty complete team now when they get their offensive line playing

pretty well like they did tonight. Yeah, you got Peyton Wilson chasing people down in the flat. Yeah, I mean, they're a complete team. You're right. You know, this is a team that was kind of becoming famous for being able to win despite breaking 300 yards of offense. They did it a few times in the first six weeks of the season. Tonight,

409, but the most impressive to me, more than anything, the most impressive element of it was they were the more physical team on both sides of the ball. Look, that's Steelers football, right? They're always going to be a tough physical team, but they were remarkably more physical than the jets were at the point of attack and on both sides of the ball. And I felt that's really

would define their comeback because they're winning at the point of attack and the domination just in the physical game, they will their way into the lead and then just put the Jets into submission, just drove at home with the physical play. Yeah, the Jets look so despondent at the end of this game. They're two and five. They fire their coach. They lose. They tried for Devante Adams. They lose. Devante Adams ends up with three for 30. Not that involved in the second half of this game. The Rogers threw the ball to him nine times for only 30 yards. Their best offense was really short passes to Breeze Hall.

that he ends up, you know, breaking for some long receptions, 103 yards, including a 57-yarder. But he's just having to get rid of the ball so quickly for them to make plays. And it's just not happening when he's holding onto the ball. I'm sure they'll have better days, including next week. They'll beat the Patriots to get to 3 and 5. And their schedule is pretty favorable down the stretch in general. So I'm not ready to, you know, totally dig dirt on them.

But it's a whole team thing. and Patrick and I, Patrick put him on fraud watch a while ago, so of I. And, you know, they just, they're, they're not a complete team. They have all sorts of problems. Everything's just like a little below average, including their defense. Getting rid of Sal has not helped their defense, shocker. No, and the worst part is, is the whole Reddick thing, the fact that he's going to come back this week. It feels like another grab at Strauss.

You know, it's, all right, let's go get Devonthe and fix our passing game. Let's go get Redict, and they need him. They absolutely need him, but this is a guy who hasn't been with the team the whole time. so it's just like they're in desperation mode and when you don't win despite making desperate moves that you think you're going to make your team better that just starts to build up

I do agree there is a path of sorts for them to get back into it but they're going to start to run out of time they've got to figure it out and you know the short passing game that's been their offense all year it's just didn't work tonight against the Steelers it will work in the future but

I need to see more from them right now you're right just not a complete team yeah and you you help me out here as the host we have not mentioned on the show that Hassan Redick is coming back So yes, that's the big addition for this week. I was wondering what the Jets or Aaron Rogers was going to do to kind of shake up the narrative and that was it.

And they get the perfect week to play the Patriots and try to get back on the winning side of things to get to three and five. We'll see. I have noticed, you know, Soss Gardner is Soss Gardner a difference maker this year? I would say no, he's not really having a good year. So different things that you would expect this team to be great at, especially at defense.

They're not getting it done. but part of that was they were playing a solid Steelers team who are at five and two. It's up to the Ravens to match them on Monday night football. And yes, Shook, we will be back, the two of us doing the Monday night double header. And that just wraps up another Sunday, another joyous Sunday. Beautiful one. You know, Greg, I feel like when Russell Wilson is rolling out during touchdown passes to Van Jefferson. You can't just do this.

just try to set me up, but you're, you are. Absolutely right. We'll be playing this music. Here we go. Do we need the music? I just want to thank everyone here. Sage Claibon, Malcolm Claibon in the studios, Eric, Randy, behind the glass, doing a great job. Nick Shook and Patrick. And you're right. When the Jets are blowing games in primetime and the Steelers are finding ways to win, you know football is back. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down.

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