NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2024 Week 8 Recap

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Nick Shook and Patrick Claybon to recap all the Week 8 action from around the NFL. The show starts off with the dramatic finish between the Bears and Commanders followed by Ravens at Browns (12:31), Packers at Jaguars (23:50), Falcons at Buccaneers (30:33), Jets at Patriots (37:47), Eagles at Bengals (47:52), Bills at Seahawks (55:28), Chiefs at Raiders (01:02:41), Saints at Chargers (01:08:20), Panthers at Broncos (01:15:36), Cardinals at Dolphins (01:21:39), Colts at Texans (01:35:00), Titans at Lions (01:42:50), and Cowboys at 49ers (01:48:01).NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Welcome to NFL Daily, where we always know to knock the ball down at the goal line. Knock it down. On a Hail Mary. I'm rolling around here in the Chris Wesleying podcast studio with Patrick Claibon. Nick Shook joining us from Cleveland. and yes, this is one of those days that as the witching hour hit

in the early window of games, Scott Hanson's going nuts. I'm going nuts. There were so many good games that I was like, I don't know what game we could possibly start the show with. And then a game in a moment

just presents itself to us. Yeah, and the thing is, there's so much that we can discuss just on the final play of the game for those of you who are finding this out on the podcast. Okay, let's listen to the call then right off the bat. Do it. There's an eight deep

form with the goal on. They bring three. Daniel's backing up. He's just going to have to let one fly. Goes to the right side. Steps away from the defenders. Gives himself some time. Now, steps up, fires.

Heads towards the end zone. It is... Go! Go! To go! Go! Go! Go!

Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Oh, me! He's talking about a game. Oh, man.

Oh, man. Oh, man. London Fletcher. London Fletcher. London Fletcher. Hell, Mary, hell yes. That was Bram. Weinstein and yeah, London Fletcher, WBIG.I.G was talking about our Dodgers here in Los Angeles there.

I think I could barely hear it over the screaming and yelling. Some pop. Yes, Jaden Daniels finds Noah Brown after a deflection, up a few hands. But Tyreeks Stevenson was jumping in there at the end for the Bears, and it goes to Noah Brown and the Washington Commanders and what is turning out to be an absolutely magical year win 18 to 15. And when I saw this happen

and my first thought was kind of like, ball don't lie. There was not a bad call in this game, and yet they were the better team all day. And I was like, oh, the right team kind of won. And it was also the right team because I picked them in Patrick Claibond Day. Yes.

And so congratulations to Washington Commanders fans who will celebrate that play in that moment for the rest of your lives. It's because I picked the Bears. and stuck with them, which felt like a great picnic, considering the way that the game was going where the Bears could do absolutely nothing. Caleb Williams had four completions late in the second half,

but then DeAndre Swift goes on a 50-plus-yard touchdown run. They come out the next drive. They go nine plays, 84 yards, and then for some reason, unbeknownst to everybody on the planet except for him and a backup offense of lineman Shane Waldron calls a play and gives the ball to Doug Kramer on the one yard line

he fumbles and the commanders recover somehow the bears get back down there Caleb Williams leads a drive they take the lead and then history happens but just a very odd game with some odd decisions either team could have won literally to the final seconds about Washington you know gets the miracle that we'll remember for the rest of our lives

did you scream in Cleveland Nick Shuck when that happened Yes. Yes, I did. I screamed almost at the top of my lungs while sitting here in my office at my house. Yes, I did. And you're right, Greg. I think you hit the nail right on the head there. It felt like Washington was the better team. And when Chicago scored, I was like, oh, this is a brutal loss for them because they've outplayed them for the majority of this game. And then Jalen drops back and throws the Hail Mary that that sends the broadcasters into just shouting, like just undecipherable shouting, pure euphoria in the form of football. That is the beauty of this game. How can you not love this sport in moments like that? And also, it It really caps, you know, an interesting week for Jalen. He gets hurt in the previous week. And we're talking about his rib injury all week and whether he'll play and he's questionable and then he decides to play. And then even on the broadcast during the game, they're talking about how, well, that rib, you know,

I don't know if he's got it in him to make that throw. Let's get the ball near the 50 yard line at least give us a chance. Let him end up throwing it from the 35 and it manages to get there off of a sea of defenders. That is Hail Mary textbook right there offensively, defensively. You forgot to leave a guy behind their bears. and the commander's magical season continues. Okay, I'm sick of these teams not sending extra rushers on these hail mirrors.

I just think it's better. And Bears fans and people in my mention say, well, he got the extra time because there was a hold. Like, yeah, there was a hold towards the end of the play. It wasn't the worst hold I've ever seen. Calm down about that being the difference between winning and losing. He held on to the ball for almost 13 seconds. It was the first touchdown pass,

according to next gen stats, that has been held for over. 10 seconds, like in their entire era of keeping track. And I give Jaden Daniels some credit, obviously, for this, not just that it was a great throw because he got the arc on it, but all that time that he bought got his receivers ready for and got him in a position where he could really run up and do it. Because there was a moment a little earlier in that play, probably after he held the ball about six or seven seconds, where he thought he was going to throw it, but he didn't. He decided to hold on, run around a little more.

That takes some supreme confidence. And yes, it takes a little bit of luck on a day where he just was so athletic. You said we could talk a lot about just that play alone. What do you want to talk about about that play? Well, ultimately, which film review is going to show a lot before the play, Tyreeks Stevenson is over on the numbers, talking to the commander's sideline and fans and being very demonstrative. And then the ball is snapped.

He wheels around. He ultimately guts in front of Noah Brown. It's his tip that goes to Noah Brown seconds after taunting the sideline and the fans. But ultimately, because we saw it on the Rogers Hail Mary where the bills are rushing to, the decision to have kind of like a spy slash pass rush where you don't necessarily know how this is going. It's just a calamity of errors for the Bears where in a game that they have, had won, like despite their best efforts and the fumble on the goal line, the Bears had this game won multiple times.

Right. And it hurts so much because this game felt like it meant a lot to the Bears, certainly to Caleb Williams, the two draft picks. I thought Caleb was a little scattershot in the game. The offensive line for the Bears did not play well, pass protecting. They had a couple injuries. And by the end, it's just a mass unit out there. Caleb finishes 10 for 24 for 131.

But they get the touchdown on the end. And on that final drive, you know, he had some crucial passes. A great throw earlier in the quarter to DJ Moore, where DJ Moore got blasted. I guess that was the one they didn't end up scoring the touchdown. But the play to Keenan Allen that he improvised was a great play. Some important throws to Adunzee who ends up with three for 41. And when they hit that touchdown, Roshan Johnson, one-yard run with about 25 seconds off, I just thought, wow, what a big moment in their season.

It's such a tough race in the NFC North Nick. Like the game almost meant more to them, but they, left too much time on the clock for Jaden Daniels. And they even did the thing that I wanted teams to do. They actually kicked it short of the goal line and they wasted a couple seconds on that. And they got better field position. Daniels' first pass of the drive was incomplete, but he did get one to Zach Ertz. And then McLaren for 11, then 13 yards to set up the touchdown.

So that was good situational football by Washington to eventually get the win. And it hurts because, man, the Bears hadn't given up a touch. the whole day, which it was a great bed and but don't break performance by them, which is what Matt Eberflous's defense is all about. They end up giving up 481 yards on the day, and yet they hadn't given up a touchdown until that last play. Yeah, pretty much everything had to fall in the right order. I mean, they had to have that one time out to stop the clock when they got the pass over

the middle of the urge. He had to get the completion of the sideline near the 50 yard line to even set up that throw. But it all comes down to two rules that I would like to frame and add to my list that I'm sometimes in the future I'm going to hang behind me, which is one, never rush three. talked about that before. And two, don't count your score before the ball is in the hole. Talking about Tyreek Stevenson taunting the sideline and then immediately getting football karma shoved right in his face as the ball glances off his hand for the Hail Mary.

I mean, look, guys, how often do we get a Hail Mary? Unless it's Aaron Rogers throwing it doesn't happen often. So we really have to appreciate this. Not only because of the context of the game, but just because it was an amazing Hail Mary. Right. And it's a win that puts the commanders at six and two. They're in a good division race. The bears are going to need every last one of these ones, and it felt like they were going to steal one. Let's hear from Dan Quinn on that final play. Jaden did a fantastic job of, you know, buying time, buying time, over to the right side. I don't know how long the play was. Maybe you guys might, but it took a long

ass time. Thirteen seconds, yeah, I felt every bit of them. Oh, my gosh. Patrick just showed me the vision of from a fan's camera of Stevenson. He wasn't just, I imagine it's like well before the snap is happening. It's during the play. he is taunting them during the play and then he whips around and he's like oh my God the play is happening right now

and he starts running over like he's that is absolutely amazing by him I mean this and I hate to like make it about the quarterbacks versus each other but I think it's fair to say Jane and Daniels is playing better

than Caleb Williams this season and Jayden Daniels his movement in this game early I know they didn't have touchdowns but he ends up with 326 yards through the air 52 on the ground and some of the the first downs, Patrick, that he scrambled for. It just took my breath away, the lateral movement and just the explosion that he has as a runner.

He is just a special player. So Caleb's going to get there. He's been great, and he had some good runs today, and D'Andre Swift helps out and everything. But Jaden Daniels is at a level where, like, he's on quarterback Island, for instance. He's maybe in the MVP race. That's like the level that he's playing at. And the whole field is in play with Jaden Daniels. And you see, like, you see late stage Russell Wilson ignoring the middle of the field, right?

there's there's really nowhere where you can count on jaden daniels to not have an option especially considering the way that terry mccloren's playing he caught him on the 60 plus yarder earlier in the game where again tony romo was concerned about his ribs as romeo should be as a guy who played with busted ribs multiple times through his career but he hits mclaren there zackertz really involved in this game he got 11 targets uh 77 yards but terry had 125 but it's just the the speed to the edge from jaden Daniels where you're not the player doesn't exist right that's going to be in the middle of the field with jaden Daniels watching and then jaden Daniels decides he's going to take the sideline and get five yards that that player does not exist that's the part that reminds me the most of of Lamar because that's how I thought to his his rookie years like when he goes to the edge like you're not going to stop him before we move on from this incredible game in moment uh Randy Chavez our great producer I don't know how he heard that the Portuguese call was so great, but he's like, you got to hear this Portuguese call of the play.

It's pretty great, and I got to admit, it is pretty great. That kind of day in Washington. One fan that's been there to every single game said the explosion when that touchdown was caught that was the loudest they have ever heard that stadium shaping up to be a special season. Let's go to Cleveland where it's been a tough season, but they had a special day too.

If you're the Cleveland round, one play to get a huge, emotional win you got it to think 24 yards let's go three seconds this is it for the wind makes some noise where every you can hear the sounds of our voice right now 24 yard line shotgun browns up 29 24 Lamar jackson has the football brown's rushing for Lamar flushed out Lamar chased by Zedarius Lamar jackson avoids adarius he's got a throwing directing traffic pump fake now throwing end zone back course order. No good and complete.

The Browns win. 29. 24. You just knew it. You knew it. You felt it. So many things happened in this game. They're unexplainedable.

And it all ended up to a Brown's win. This one's for. you, Jim Donovan. What a call. One of the calls of the year. Put that on the list. Yes, that was Andrew Siciliano, WKRK, Andrew and Nathan Zagura. An emotional moment.

Yes, Jim Donovan, the late great play-by-play announcer of the Browns lost his battle with cancer over the weekend, 68 years old. And if you have a chance, watch the camera. of that play on Andrew and Nathan Zagir, and there's even more to it. It's emotional. It's kind of what broadcasting is all about. And I know for those two guys, they were playing hurt today because they were friends with Jim Donovan and he meant a lot to that organization. Andrew Barry, Kevin Stefansky, actually went to the house of the Donovan's and gave the game ball to his wife and his daughter. But what a game they had in Cleveland. Nick shook. The The Browns win at 29 to 24.

We had scores back and forth in the fourth quarter in the final five minutes. Hopkins gets a field goal. The Ravens get a touchdown with two and a half minutes left. And then James Winston leads a touchdown drive that is capped by a touchdown to Cedric Tillman for 38 yards. And the Browns win an improbable game against the team we thought was the best in the AFC outside of Kansas City. Yeah, I still think they're the best. but this was a special day, like you said, for a team that's had a tough season. James Winston breathed life into this offense that we have not seen all season

because Deshawn Watson was playing quarterback. You know, Patrick and I, I think, joked about this a few weeks ago when James came in for a meaningless drive and moved the ball down the field and scored a touchdown where even in the few throws that he had, he looked like the best quarterback on the team. Well, they got that for four quarters today. Now, he took his typical James risks for sure. A few interception worthy passes that were not caught, including one that was dropped by Kyle Hamilton that probably would have sealed the game or at least.

made it a lot more difficult for the Browns to come back against the Ravens. And yet none of that stuff happens. They get every bounce to go their way. They get all their receivers involved. David Adjoku has a great day, makes a great touchdown catch, makes a great diving catch early in the game. Jerry Judy, who was very frustrated a week earlier, gets involved, Elijah Moore. Cedric Tillman catches two touchdown passes.

Probably the first time Browns fans have seen anything from Cedric Tillman. And that defense came to play like it has for most of the season. They limited Lamar to 23 or 38 passing. You know, for 289, two touchdowns, it's still a good line. But if you watched it visually, you would see that things were difficult for the Ravens. It's because of that Brown's defense. So the first time they put together a total team win, it started with James Winston. It was not just him.

And absolutely an emotional day for Browns fans who lost a local legend who's been here for 30 plus years and a perfect way to do it. Let's listen to James on the podium talking about those dropped interceptions because, yeah, there was more than one. What went through your mind when you saw Kyle Hamilton drop that interception? Oh, I started praying instantly. You know, I started praying instantly. It was only about the grace of God. And I think when situations like that happen, you always sit back and you're like, man, I still got the stuff to work on, right?

Because it could have been a matter of whatever. Who knows how we would feel right now if that would have happened. But I'm so grateful that that was an if. And ifs and shoulds and what or coulders don't mean nothing in this game. While we're on, James, let's just listen to all his postgame sound because he was he was in rare form. And yeah, I mentioned that Kyle Hamilton drop that that you also did too. Shuck, yeah, that would have basically

end of the game. But there were a few in this game and a few it was to Eddie Jackson, the Raven Safety, who was playing in place of Marcus Williams, a big ticket free agent signing who just has not been playing well this year at all, did not play at all in this game. John Harbaugh said

we're working through some things there and they expect Marcus Williams to play well by the end of the season. Made me wonder if something else happened when they told Marcus Williams that he was benched. Maybe it didn't go too well because he got zero snaps on a day where they're a little thin in the secondary and maybe he wouldn't have been in position

like Eddie Jackson, but I kept thinking, well, Marcus Williams, if nothing else, has good hands. He probably would have caught those passes. Let's listen to James, as I was saying, right after the game. Man, it's a white boy from Detroit that I really admire named Eminem. He said, you only get one shot. Do not miss your chance to blow. this opportunity lasts once in a lifetime and I know I got a quote

you know Eminent, he's from Detroit he'd ride up the road but man I'm just grateful I'm grateful that DeLoyd provided me with this opportunity I'm grateful for my teammates my coaches and these amazing fans Ah, his soul is escaping through the hole that is gaping

that was the it's tough to it's tough Greg it's really tough and congratulations on a great win to the Cleveland Brown but you mentioned the dropped interception by Eddie Jackson there was the dropped third and 17

completion to Rashad Bateman. Zay Flowers had drops as well. Drops were the story of the game for Baltimore, who once again has come into a game against the team with one of the worst records in the NFL, after being one of the best teams in the NFL,

clearly showing that they can beat anybody anywhere, but they can also lose to anybody anywhere in the most chaotic of fashions. And it's not like you could pick any one of those plays. The Kyle Hamilton drop. Lamar had missed.

as well that could have been six today it was a total team effort including in the play calling where Derek Henry kind of disappeared for large swaths of this game all credit to the Browns and the Schwartz defense but

that's a tough loss yeah we I want to credit CBS for that post game interview and yes Eminem for a song that's still doing so well among the youth I was at a fall festival inside of like one of those video game trucks

with my son on Friday night school sponsored video game trucks and lose yourself comes on and a whole bunch of sixth graders are just singing the lyrics knows every single one it is passed down through generations Nick and who knows

maybe James Winston will too as a Brown's quarterback 334 and three touchdowns he's your future now I mean for the rest of this season there's no question that he's the guy I mean he'll throw picks this is what you're going to get but that's also what they got out of do with Flacco.

So Brown's fans probably felt like it was deja vu to a degree because that's what Flacco did down the stretch last year. This team's not making the playoffs, but it's nice to see them, you know, actually form a competent offense for one week with a quarterback who can get the ball out on time and largely accurately, it's something that they definitely needed after what's been a rough year.

Yeah, competent in considering the investment, much like the $41 million that went into making the film eight mile when it gross $241 million. Wow. Yeah, a good bargain. by my guy Curtis Hansen there. It's coming off Wonder Boys. I mean, what a wild one-two punch that was for different types of movies.

Yeah, when you see Cedric Tillman go seven for 99, Elijah Moore, 8 for 85, Judy, 5 for 79, Indoku, 5 for 61. You're like, oh, yeah, it was always the quarterback. It was always the quarterback. And it's crazy to me, if James Winston plays well enough to possibly save Andrew Barry's job, because of Andrew Barry's signing of Deshaun Watson was so bad because he got hurt. Like, Deshaun Watson staying was the way for them to tank.

I think there might be part of the people in the front office that want as high a draft pick as possible. James Winston might help to ruin that. And it only happened because their guy, Deshaun Watson, got hurt. It's crazy. Let's end on a positive no, or at least a bittersweet note. We've had so many Jim Donovan calls over the years on the around the NFL podcast. and now we're here as the NFL Daily podcast. And I think about that great Browns victory,

which is the second to last show that Chris ever did on the show. That was very emotional for Mark on the show. We love seeing the Browns getting that win and so many different great calls over the year. Let's listen before we go to the next game to one other great Jim Donovan call. Mayfield under center. Second down in 10, takes the snap, gives it.

Chub runs. to the 10, 15, he's into 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 40, 45, 50, there goes, Chubb, he's in the 30, 20, 20, 10, 5, touchdown, Jabba, Hub! 92 yards! Pretty unbelievable. He has a second gear. I just got hit more by you than I did in my 14 years in the NFL. Oh, what a play.

That was the longest run in Brown's history, called by the great Jim Donovan. Rest in peace. When I joined the Browns in 2019, was there for about a year. You know, it was a lot of new faces, a lot of people that I got to know very well. But nobody was kinder to me and more welcoming to me

when I showed up than Jim Donovan. This is a guy I grew up listening to, you know, on Brown's radio since 1999. I mean, I remember when he called, you know, a hail married to Kevin Johnson for the Browns' first. room when they came back as an expansion team over the Saints in the Superdome. Meeting him was like a dream come true. Getting to know him and becoming friends with him is even better. We'd be in the locker room. He'd come up and just ask me about an upcoming opponent

and getting my take. He loved the talk. He loved football. He loved people and he loved Cleveland. And when I left to come back here, he was one of the first people to make an emphatic statement of congratulations and best of luck. And he took time when I worked on a feature about the city of Cleveland ahead of the draft. This is a massive loss for the community. I know stepped away this year. But he will not be forgotten anytime soon. He was a fantastic individual. And it explains all the emotion. I'm feeling it right now that people had in that stadium today. So rest in peace, he will be forever missed. Well said, Nick. Let's go to our next game. And yeah, rest in peace. Jim Donovan. Wheeling down on one knee, arm extended. Here's

a step. Place been made. The kick is up. And it is good. For the second week in a row, Brandon McManus delivers the dagger. And the Packers have defeated the Jaguars, 30 to 27. Yes, it was a wild day. That was Wayne Larravee on WR NW. Yeah, it's a game-winning dagger from Brandon McManus. Again, set up by Malik Willis, a 51-yard pass. Unfortunately, Jordan Love gets hurt again.

He has a groin injury. More on that in a bit. bit. But Patrick Malik Willis comes in, has a couple runs that are important. And then, yes, an important throw to Jaden Reed to set up that game winner. They're finding ways to win no matter who's that quarterback. Yeah. And the Packers were down 13 to 10 when Malik Willis comes into that game. Jordan Love injured himself rolling to his right early on in the game. He's kind of hobbling. Not kind of. He was clearly limping handing the ball off. They did have a couple of scoring drives. I had a good ball

to Romeo Dobbs as well. But late, this was Malik Willis making plays, including a 51 yarder to Jaden Reed in the closing moments to set up that Brandon McManus field goal. And also a huge play by Devante Wyatt to get to a strip sack

of Trevor Lawrence late in the game that set the Packers up deep in Jags territory where it was really, because so many times it's like, oh, you know, you just wanted it more. And you say that. It's like, this guy's out there trying hard. But this was really an explosive effort to beat the Jags to that ball and to get it back.

But again, having a solid young backup quarterback that could come in on the road in these situations to get a win, it makes me think of an AFC South team that would probably wouldn't mind to have Malik Willis watching him again do it against another squad as he did against his former team of Titans earlier this year. And it's coaching too. Like if Malik Willis was in Tennessee, wouldn't be having this. success. If he was in Miami with a wonderkin coach, I don't think he'd be having this success because Mike McDaniel doesn't seem to be able to know how to make it translate. And yet, they

do hear. Let's listen to Matt Lafleur talk about Jordan Love's injury, because obviously that's a big takeaway from this game. No idea. But obviously high level of concern anytime a guy's in there and he did it early in that first drive

and I think you guys I think everybody could see him struggling to move around. and I just got to a point where we didn't, we didn't feel like, and he didn't feel like he could protect himself. So I went with Malik, and you can't say enough great things about Malik Willis, the job that he's able to do to go in there. You know, the moment's never too big for him,

and he made a lot of big-time plays in this game. Yeah, Jeff Jacobs did 2, 127 yards on the ground, a couple of touchdown. Tucker Kraft gets it done with another long score in this game. And a lot of the heroes that have been helping the Packers get to six and two, shook like Xavier McKinney with an interception, helps them get a win here. And this win feels even bigger because they have the lions next week. And we'll see it.

We'll see about love. But in this division, you want to be banking those wins as much as possible, especially if you're not going to be having your quarterback out there. We'll see. Yeah, absolutely. And a game where you gave up the lead late. You had to fight back to take the lead. Then it looked like you were going to run away with it or at least, you know,

kind of coast to the finish line. And all of a sudden, it's a tie ball game because of a great drive by Trevor Lawrence, which we can get to in a second. because he looked pretty good. But, you know, you make the point about coaching. I think this is the most impressive Malik Willis appearance of the season because he had to do it in the middle of the game. They didn't have all week to build a game plan around his strengths,

you know, according to the team they were playing. He just had to come in and figure it out. He ends up going four for five for 56 yards in a touchdown pass and he makes a phenomenal throw down the sideline to set up the end of the eventual game-winning field goal. I mean, he also took off with his legs to keep drives going. These are things that he's kind of gaining confidence as he plays more and realizes, look, these are my strengths, these are my weaknesses,

and this is what I should do within the game. And now he's not overwhelmed anymore. So I know he's still a backup quarterback, but I was just very impressed by how he was able to step in. And they didn't really miss a beat. They were able to fight back, take the lead, and end up winning the game. Really, really resounding, you know,

statistically kind of short appearance, but resounding appearance for him on Sunday. Yeah, and it was, you mentioned that Xavier, you guys both talked about that Xavier McKinney interception, could have wound up being the difference in this game where Brian Thomas Jr. is running a clear-out travel, looks up and thinks that X is going to go with the speedy rookie,

but McKinney hesitates, comes back across his body and picks off a pass intended for Christian Kirk, and the Jags had to come back in this game without Christian Kirk, because there was a deep ball down the middle of the field. They got punched out late. Christian Kirk lands directly on his shoulder, was on the ground writhing in pain.

It was, as Shook points out, another solid Trev game where aside from that play in the strip sack, this is what you want from Trevor Lawrence. They've got a good offense. I think we can officially stamp it. They're a good offense for years. Yeah, well, especially when Tank Bigsby ends up, you know,

carrying the load in the backfield and Brian Thomas is having a great rookie year. And Christian Kirk makes an impact. But it all starts with Trevor. And a lot of it before was Trevor not being consistently accurate. Just near misses here, near misses there, a bad pick or two in a game. He shook off a bad pick in this game because they picked off Jordan Love. And then he instantly gives the ball right back to them, right? He is able to come back from that.

They didn't have a first down until inside six minutes left in the first half. And they wake up all of a sudden. He leads a touchdown drive. They lead a field goal drive. Suddenly they're right back in the game. He picks up where he left off in the second half. And then they need a touchdown late. And he goes down the field again.

It was frantic. But it was kind of electric. Like I love seeing Trev Cook when they didn't have a lot of time and the pressure was on because in many situations he's wilted in the past. So look, they're still two and six. They have a long way to go and everything else. But I, for the first time in a while, feel kind of good about his outlook. Yeah.

Offensively, sure. But he's having these good games. Yeah. then the other team scores 30 and it just feels like a long march. But you never know. Brian Thomas was a great first round pick. It ends up with three for 60 and a touchdown. Some outstanding plays within there.

Not a lot to feel good about offensively. We will see about Jordan Love. And hopefully he can get healthy for that Lions game next week. We're just getting started here on NFL Daily. Ooh, good games to start with. Yeah, let's start rolling through that early window when Scott Hansen was just like, losing his mind. We'll hit those games after the break. Cousins works in the pistol here.

Five claps and he gets the snap. Going to rip it for Pitts. Caught Kyle in stride. 25, 20, 15, 10, 5. Touchdown. The ball got knocked loose his pitch, broke the line. This is close. This is really close. They awarded him the touchdown.

That sigh of relief you heard from Tampa was from Kyle Pitts. It was from West Durham. It was from Dave Archer on WZGC. Yeah, that was a 49-yard touchdown catch where Kyle Pitts looked about as fast as we've seen him since his rookie year. But he lets up a little bit at the end. And Antoine Winfield, he did it again. He's so good at that. saved the Buccaneer season, I thought, last year with a play very similar to that against

the Panthers with about three weeks left of the season, got them into the playoffs. And I understand why they couldn't overturn it because there wasn't a totally clear view. But I bet Bucks fans and people that picked them to win this game like me believe he got that ball out before they got it over the goal line and just couldn't overturn it. The Falcons hang on for a 31 to 26 victory on a day shook where you can just plug it in before the game even starts. Baker Mayfield ends up with three touchdowns and two interceptions and somehow

that's like super flattering to how he actually played. Meanwhile, Kirk Cousins, you might as well punch it in before the game starts too when he plays Todd Bowles. Lights him up for four touchdowns. Kirkco is on fire against this Buck's team. Yeah. You know what kills me though about the Falcons and not to put a damper on a win? Nothing is easy with

this team. Like it's a shoot out of sorts in the first half. They pull away. It looks like they're going to pull away at least. You know, they go up by a couple scores. And then they let it get close late because Baker does the same thing he did a week ago. After throwing two picks, suddenly he leads a comeback charge and they're in position to potentially tie the game or maybe win the game this time. They fall short.

But it's just like, Young Huai Kuh misses a field goal. I'm just like, Falcons, come on, for once, just make it a little bit easy. That doesn't cast any sort of Paul over the day that Kirk Cousins had because he was excellent for the vast majority of it, hooking up with Darnell Mooney for a touchdown. Kyle Pitts, Bijon Robinson. This offense was humming. It's a good win for them in the division. but my God, guys, make it a little bit easier on me.

You know, I already lost my hair, but make it a little bit easier on me. Why, just because you're writing it up or whatever and you want it to be simple. Don't you want good football game, shook? No, I want a good football team to finish strong. Are they a good football team? I don't know. We'll never know if it keeps being like this. Because I had the same experience, Nick did.

We're, you know, doing all these different games, I look up, okay, I don't have to worry about the Falcons anymore. I can pay attention to the rest of the games. Then I look back up. And there goes, Bucky Irving. on like a, and it's like where where's the consistency? Like they needed a Jesse Bates incredible

interception to keep this comeback from even being more of a comeback. Right. Kuh misses a kick, which he's done in big spots a handful of times this year. The safety was just a ridiculous play. Baker I think is costing this team, but I'm glad

you mentioned Jesse Bates because I just think it has to be mentioned starts the game off with incredible peanut punch and then you know, caps it late with a beautiful interception that just aren't many safeties doing it like this. This team, I don't think they're a good team. They do have a lot of really good players. Most of them are on offense. It's not a good defense. It's the worst pass rush in the entire NFL statistically and

by the eye test. But my God, Jesse Bates is worth like a couple wins alone. When it's Antoine Winfield and Jesse Bates going at it, it's like the best safety on safety matchup in the NFL. Yeah, it's the clash of the safeties. And Baker Mayfield had to pay for it a couple times in this game. You know, I do want to talk more about him because please, let's face it, he's, he's operating without his top two receivers.

He's forced to play with the likes of, you know, Jalen McMillan, and, you know, he's throwing to his running backs a lot, and he's throwing to Tray Palmer and, like, Kate Otton's going off because he's probably his best targeting at 9 for 81 and two touchdowns today on national tight end days. So shout out to you, Kate. You got to pay a fine for mentioning that.

Oh, no. I was ready to have a pre-show meeting and just say, That rule, but I just figured everyone would understand. But thank you. Oh, that's too late. I'm in jail. I'm in jail.

I'm out for the road. Just silence me. No. But Baker also like misses guys and he doesn't have as much of a rapport with guys. And he's, you know, energetic, aggressive Baker. And he's always going to put his, you know, pedal to the floor and get after it. And it's going to cost them. And it's kind of where he's been the last couple weeks because you took Mike Evans out of the equation.

And you took Chris Godwin out of the equation. And he's operating with less than a full deck. So this is kind of the outcome that I think Bucks fans are probably going to want to have to expect from this office. for at least the next few weeks, if not the rest of the season. And hopefully it doesn't produce close losses like this. Yeah, they now have the tie break, obviously, over the Buccaneers and the lead in the division. It's a massive win for them.

I mean, look, they can try to figure out their weaknesses as they march towards the playoffs because this is an awful division with two of the worst teams in the NFL in it, and you've already swept the other team that's in the division. I want to watch this game closer later. But, you know, one of my working theories lately is that Baker Mayfield's a problem for this team. Wow. You live and die by him is what it is. Because he actually had a nice first half until the picks started piling up.

You live and die by him. But I think he's being set up for success in a really meaningful way. I think the scheme is getting guys open. They're protecting him well in the inconsistency. And that's just Baker. I guess, like, why would you expect it to be different? But don't sell me on that. It is different.

It's right. It's right there on the Dalton scale line, except I'd rather have someone like Andy Dalton who you kind of know what you're getting versus someone that's like over for a quarter and then sinking you for a quarter. Patrick disagrees because he has them in the MVP race still. No, it's just tough. It's tough to win those games where you're going out and we celebrate, right? Players making plays like Jaden Daniels did it today. We saw Josh Allen talk about him in a little bit. Yeah. And it's just like Andy Dalton isn't doing that. it's not this Andy Dalton and Baker's two interceptions that came today on deep passes you know the one that's going to Miller right it's a whole lot different

if that's Mike Evans the miss to McMillan there's just it's just a little scattershot it's a little crazy maybe just not my style Kirk Cousins getting it done still never move in the pocket never having a problem in this division he's just standing firm and he's making it happen

really says something about his arm talent and his veteran savvy. He's seen a lot. And he's seeing this Bowles defense, by the way. Bulls, just driving Bucks fans a little crazy after the game when he's like, hey, it's just the same stuff we're always running. It's not basically

saying, like, I'm not adding anything fancy that they can't execute. It's just our execution because we're running the same stuff that we usually do. Well, that's part of the problem. You're running the same stuff that you usually do, and it never works against this team. It's never really working this year in general, but it's definitely not working

against the Falcons. Let's go to New England. where not many things were working consistently, but it was pretty fun. Smith is in the back field, lined up as a fullback. Stevenson, the jailback. Henry, motions left and right. Brissette hands it to Remodry. He runs it into the right side. Good.

He plows his way into the end zone. And the lead. Touchdown. Patriots! It's a big point drive by Chicovy for set. Aaron Rogers is in disbelief. The Jets have choked another game away. Is he a disbelief?

I want to put that on the potential cause of the year. Choked another game away. There was 22 seconds left in the game. There's plenty of time for Rogers after they kicked the touchback to make a couple plays. But he didn't. He was up and down all day. Jacoby Brissette was mostly just up. That was a big boy drive.

That was the drive of the Patriots season. 70 yards in 12 plays in under three minutes to stick a touchdown on the Jets to win the game. They hit the two-point conversion. version as well. Yes, Brissette was in the game for an injured Drake May, who took a hard hit to the head and was ruled out with a concussion. And I was happy for Jacoby Brissette as a Patriots fan and as a person, because he just seems like one of the best dudes possible. Let's actually listen to Jacoby Brissette before we get the conversation started after the game on the podium. I'll look at it as no redemption. You know, I'll look at it as no redemption. I don't know. I

I think this is a testament to me believing in myself and not y'all and I'm very aware of that and you know I was I was very fortunate that you know that have this opportunity and to go out there and you know and get a win you know with our guys you know it was you know it's sweet I mean you can't put it into words but you know I'm not trying to like be arrogant or nothing but I'm very proud of myself today it's so funny because he wasn't being remotely arrogant and like he's such like a a humble self-effacing guy that he's even saying, like, I'm not trying to be arrogant. Like, we are giving you this one, Jacoby Brissette. This was Patriots Super Bowl. If you could pick one game on the entire rest of the schedule to win, and it might be the only win on the entire rest of the schedule, this would be the game because you are dragging your rival jets into the mire,

except it feels even worse if you're, you know, the jets, because the expectations are so much higher. They're both two and six. The difference is the Patriots feel good. about their young quarterback. They're disappointed that he got hurt in this game. But for anyone that didn't watch this game closely, I wouldn't blame you. There was a lot of good games in the early one day. If you look at Brissette's stat line 25 for 15th for 24-132, it's like, oh, it's kind of like Jacobi at the beginning of the year. No, zero running game help. Other than that touchdown run,

they just couldn't get it done. Their running backs went 25 for 56 in this game. The drops were absolutely insane. I counted six to seven drops. Almost all of them would have been for first downs. Most of them were on really good throws. There was a holding penalty that called back one of Brissette's best plays, which is 40 yards down the field. The drops started with Drake May, but they mostly were with Jacoby Reset. And then the throw that Jacoby had to Kashan Booty, who's like their best receiver, which is hilarious, on the final drive, came on a blitz where he's taking a hit right in the leg as he's delus. delivering at 34 yards downfield.

It was a really good performance. He gave them mature quarterback play. I think Drake May would have done well, too. He started off the game well because they were getting protected. And if you protect your quarterbacks, like these two quarterbacks shown they can do it. It's a bad sign for the Jets, though, that they offered so little resistance to this passing game, Patrick. Yeah, the Jets also saw the best runner on the day, which was Drake May, finished up as almost the leading rusher on how many? Three for 46.

On 17 fewer carries, the Romandre Stevenson, three for 46 yards and that touchdown that came on the opening drive leading us to the question, are the Jets soft now? Yes. Is Softgate effectively over? Did Gerard Mayo not make the players sad and they were all mad and quit trying? Or was that overwrought as Jacoby might have illuminated when he suggested that he wasn't listening to those guys? You're saying we soft? We're soft in the media for making a big deal. I'm going to say, particularly the people in the room that Jacoby Brissette were talking to.

Perhaps their reaction was a little bit overwrought about softness and the soft conversation. It really comes down to the Jets aren't a good football team. And the Patriots might not be either, but today they were better than the Jets. They just were. And if you look at Aaron Rogers numbers, a decent passing day, 17 to 28, 233, two touchdowns. but it continues to be Aaron having to get rid of the ball crazy early in plays early on in the progression the time to throw Aaron Rogers today 35% of his attempts under two and a half seconds right and it wasn't getting pressured much so he's been consistent to me

in a weird way he's kind of the same guy every week which is he the throws are even either amazing like he spins it kind of like I've been talking about with Kirk Cousins he had some great throws today to Garrett Wilson goes five for 113. Wilson gets the benefit of not having Christian Gonzalez on him. So he gets the better matchup against Marcus Jones. That shows you, okay, that's the Devante Adams trade helping them out. Or he looks old as hell and just not comfortable under pressure, which is not the Aaron Rogers that we know. Certainly not moving. He's one for four outside the pocket for like no yards. And they're just poorly run. It was comical. They burned three timeouts in the first half because they couldn't.

get the play in on time in the first quarter. They had another big one in the second half, which ended up losing large. They had two delay of games because they couldn't get the plays off, including on the two-point conversion. So they had to go further. That ended up being a big moment in this game, late in the game. So they just look poorly run on offense, like disjointed, players not plays, kind of like decent players, but not good enough plays.

And on defense, they're just kind of a bad defense. I think it's been long enough to say that they're a below-out. average defense. And Jeff Obrick is 0 and three, Nick Shook. Yeah, poorly run, which usually points to a coach who's about to get fired, except they already fired their coach and they demoted their offensive coordinator. You can't make any more changes on the staff that are going to affect you not being able to get plays in and getting, you know, operations penalties. That's, that's already, that ship has sailed. And at the same time, this is Aaron Rogers not trusting his offensive line, by the way, because I think that at this

point he's accepted, I don't have time to throw. I'm not going to be able to sit back there, except for maybe three or four times a game and actually scan the field, which then shortens your entire offense. He lost the trust in the offensive line because they didn't protect him well over the first six or seven weeks. His average time to throw is 0.2 seconds slower than it was the previous four seasons he played before he missed all of last season. That's according to next gen stats,

looked that one up last week. And that's alarming because what was the strength of Aaron Rogers when he was with the Packers? He trusted his offensive line. He knew how to navigate the pocket and he would be able to find guys open with receivers he trusted. He got a receiver he trusted. He still doesn't get to go to him very.

often. This whole offense is limited and shortened by the fact that it starts with Rogers, not because he's necessarily playing poorly, but because he knows he can't be his full self. Oh, and by the way, he's 40 years old and dealing with the pressure of a team that is now two and six and seems to be going nowhere, especially with the defense that can't get a stop against the freaking Patriots in the final three minutes of a football game. That is embarrassing. I don't care how you slice it. It's embarrassing. And you know what? One more tip of the cap here to Scott Zolek, who a few weeks ago was so despondent after their loss to the dolphins that he said, there's going to be some changes that need to be made.

And if you don't want to make those changes, it's going to be a dark year or whatever, something along those lines. He got that change at quarterback, and then he had to eat his words when the other quarterback came in and led him to victory today. Okay, fair. I don't know if that's the changes that he was looking for. I have part of it. You're right.

And I was really upset about the failure of the spotter at the game and the failure of the officials, not only to call the late hit on a slide to the head of, Drake May that clearly concussed him. If you're watching the broadcast copy, you saw it in a second. Like, his teammates went over to celebrate, and he's woozy and, like, not getting up. And he stays in for the next play to get sacked.

It's just like, and I saw the Boston Herald, Karen Grusian, note that he only went to the spotter in the tent after having a long conversation. No, not with, like, the medical professionals first, with Jacoby Percette. I think Jacoby was a dude in that situation. I was like, someone's got to go talk to Drake May. He doesn't seem right right now.

Gerard Mayo said after the game, he wanted to reenter the game. Well, thankfully, eventually he did get into that tent. But I've seen this too often where pretty obvious concussions seem to be happening. And the plays just continue on. It's disappointing. Let's actually listen to Rogers. You mentioned the lack of confidence he has in the offensive. I think he's just playing like he's not confident in himself.

Like, he's not confident to hold the ball too long. Because like the Patriots pass rushes. terrible and for the most part they weren't getting pressures but a couple times they did get pressures today he handled it very poorly like he panicked and he doesn't look like a confident player uh he reacted after the game to jeff olbrick saying yeah this is a dark moment in this season yeah i've been in the darkness you got to go in there make peace with it perfect no better player to have that question asked you the Aaron Rock it's like almost it almost seems like a bit with like the shadow over his eyes if you're watching on

it's intentional it is uh it is dark times right now uh in new york those lights were literally too bright for adam game once upon a time two and six on a day where i thought they had a lot of good things like the running backs ran so hard quinn and williams finally has the best game of his uh season let's go to cincinnati where we're going to find something about about two teams who have just been fattened up on some soft opponents shotgun hurts looks he is rolling he's looking He's pumping. He is going deep downfield, and it is caught. Devante Smith, touchdown.

The bomb! Yes, it's time for the Sunday Drive presented by the all-new hybrid Toyota Camry. That was Merrill Reese, W-I-P, Devontas Smith. Sometimes it's about the players, not just the play. And look, Jack Stoll got a nice block to help extend that play for Jalen Hertz, who just says, hell, DeVantza's down there somewhere in an unbelievable catch. Jalen Hertz throws those pretty deep throws.

And DeVante made a great catch over the safety for a 45-yard touchdown. The most exciting play in what I thought was Jalen Hertz's best game of the entire season, not just 16 to 20 through the air for 236 yards and that touchdown. But 10 for 37 on the ground in three touchdowns, much better in the design.

run game. That 3.7 yards per carry has a lot to do with like four push pushes in this game, which were mostly effective. You know, you see the touchdowns, but they also called some important design runs at key moments where he picked up first downs or big chunks with his legs, mostly rushing up the middle straight ahead like he did in the 2022 season. Saquan Barkley finishes it out with 108 yards, but they really passed to take the lead. And then they ran to win, and that's the formula, even without some of their offensive linemen shook, I was really impressed with the way they physically held up in past protection and in the running game. They were just tougher than the Bengals today. Yeah, and they started this trend,

I think, when they beat the Giants. I think they found, they rediscovered themselves offensively when they got A.J. Brown and DeVantza Smith back, and then they've just kind of been building on that since then. I think that went over the Giants gave them a lot of confidence that they needed to unlock this offense that was recently described by Lane Johnson as being constipated. It's not constipated anymore. I don't care what brand name laxative you use, but that thing's flowing now. And just look at the score. The fact that you put 37 points on the board and three scores in the fourth quarter, I mean, this is an Eagles offensive explosion that we haven't seen since I don't know, the first half of last season. If not that, their Super Bowl run the year before,

it's been a long time. And I think it goes a long way toward your quarterback being comfortable when he puts up a stat line like this. And then they're able to finish the game on the ground running the football. I mean, that one possession, they had to score their last touchdown to make it 3417, seven and a half minutes, 12 plays 85 yards. And if you look at their possession chart overall, they punted once. When was the last time we saw the Eagles be this productive as an offense? It's been a long time. So I'm feeling really good about the Eagles outlook after a game like this when they moved to five and two. And let's not chalk up the NFC East being Washington so fast that they keep playing football like this. Yeah, it reminded me a lot of 2022 because I think the defense that

year, it was complimentary football where the defense really wasn't that great when they played top tier opponents. And look, this game started with a 10-minute drive by the Bengals. There are three drives in the first half. They either had touchdowns or field goals or they had a field goal miss. And then they had a long touchdown drive to start the second half. So the defense was playing like cheeks, basically, through their first four or five possessions. But the offense was keeping up and eventually gave them the lead and a chance to settle down and at least make a couple plays. Cooper Dejean, Brandon Graham. I think they're a better team when they're

playing with the lead because they're a better past defense and past rush versus like stopping the run. And we saw that skill in the secondary, especially both rookies. Quignon Mitchell making several plays down the field with Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase had nine catches, but they're able to keep it to

51 yards. There was that touchdown where Nolan Smith is covering Jamar Chase. That's never going to work. It took a while to get there. I give credit. He had him for the first couple of seconds. In fact, I think it was Kevin Harlan on the call. He was like, Jamar Chase is covered.

And then Joe Burrow gives Jamar Chase to go that way. That's an edge rusher. And it's instantly a touchdown there. But one of the big plays in the game, speaking to Jamar Chase, was the first guy almost never gets Jamar Chase. But Cooper DeGine on a fourth

and one, lined up Jamar Chase, was able to get a shot on his hip and knock him back, which I think could have been a turning point in this game, considering that the Devonte Smith touchdown, it just happened. There was no late tush-push touchdowns for Jalen Hertz yet. That was a big play in the game and the rookie stepped up. Yeah, I think Zach Taylor showed something there. He said

I don't trust my defense. I don't blame him. I think he was feeling the flow of this game that they weren't getting stops. It's very out of character for Zach Taylor to go for a fourth and one on his own side of the field and people kill that playoff. I think it was just, it was a good play by Cooper DeGine. Cooper Gene has played really well the last couple weeks. There were some good things he did in coverage in this game and last week. And the other big play defensively for the Eagles in this game was the interception by CD Gardner Johnson that was tipped by Isaiah Rogers, who was replacing Darius Slate. So that was a good one-on-one throw where Rogers really made a perfect play

and it ends up getting intercepted. I know Bengals fans will look at the 17 points and the interception and say, you know, they need more out of the offense. And I get it, but it's like I mentioned, their first four drives, they had two touchdowns, a field goal and a missed field goal before that turnover on downs. That's not on the offense, man. I know they didn't keep up in what needed to be a shootout, but that's a hard way to win. I just meant the way the defense was playing today, they weren't going to win against a real team. I think if you look at the pressures, it really tells a story. The Bengals had only five pressures the whole game,

zero quick pressures, whereas the Bengals gave up 14 pressures, five quick pressures. For the first, almost three quarters full, I thought Burrow was playing like a perfect game. Like he was literally playing absolutely perfect. And when that's not good enough, three quarters are perfect before things start going haywire,

it means your defense and the surge that you had the last couple of weeks was really about playing some bad opponents and that your defense is a problem. And at 3 and 5 this season right now, Shook is a problem. Yeah, I mean, that's the story of their season and especially the last month or so is that you've, well, actually the whole season,

you've been asking your offense to carry you. And the last three games, they've scored 17, 21, and 17 points. And if you need your offense to carry you, that's not enough to win most football games if your defense isn't good enough. And that's just who they are right now. Like, I hate to say it because we know the potential of their offense, but we've seen enough of this defense now to think,

three and five is accurate. That is who this defense is at least. And that's probably who this team's going to be. unless they can explode for points every week, which is just not a reliable way to win football games in the NFL. This was their worst game of the year. They probably should be about four and four with all those tough endings that they have,

but they are what they are. And they were without T. Higgins, I should have mentioned, had a late week practice injury and was not in this game. And they're a star-driven team, and they need every star on the field, and they didn't have it.

Good job by the Eagles' third straight victory. That was the Sunday Drive, presented by the all-new hybrid Toyota Camry. Whatever your vibe, it's a Camry vibe. Learn more at Toyota.com slash Camry, and yes, let's go to Seattle, where like Bengals' Eagles, I thought, like, this is going to be

one of the games of the day between two good teams, and it wouldn't be one-sided, and I was wrong. Two tight-end set, along with Hollins on the left, Pullman on the right. He was the snap, handoff goes to Cook, right up the gut, and into the end zone for his second, rushing touchdown. of the game. A seven-yard

touchdown run for James Cook, and the bills have turned it into a blowout. Chris Brown on WGR. Wanted that play as the highlight because it just really showed how they were getting

whatever they wanted. They just were kind of taking the Seahawks defense lunch money. 31 to 10, the Bills win in Seattle, and you can point towards the self-inflicted mistakes the Seahawks have. Their center, you know, snaps one over Gino's head, and then he steps on Gino's foot on the next time they're on the goal line.

But I don't think it would have mattered. At one point in this game, the yardage was 416 to 141. I mean, it finishes 445 to 233. Like, the Seahawks couldn't get a running game going at all. 1.3 yards per carry for Kenneth Walker. Zach Sharbonnet goes negative. Meanwhile, you got James Cook running for 111. You got Ray Davis going for five yards per carry.

This was going to be a one-sided Bill's victory. I think no matter what happened, Patrick, I know it would have been closer. Obviously, like, if you get a couple. 14 points is a lot of points. What I mean is that when Seattle had the ball, okay, there was some back and forth, right? When Buffalo had the ball, there was no back and forth. It was just fourth. Yeah, there was no opposition.

So based on that, if that's the case for 60 minutes, it never stopped, then eventually that team will win. And maybe it would have been more entertaining and it would have been 31 to 21 or something like that, but you're probably going to lose. Yeah, you were. And there was Josh Job did get the first interception thrown by Josh Allen of the seat. Other than that, that might have been the highlight for the Seattle Seahawks on the day who really couldn't do anything.

There was no D.K. Metcalfe in this game. kind of threatened that Bill's secondary, and it was something that I thought coming into the game where the Seahawks defense really got healthy shook going up against a quarterback that couldn't move in Kirk Cousins. And this is not Kirk Cousins. This is not as far as a golf athletically from post-Aquillies, Kurt Cousins to Josh Allen in 2024 as you could possibly go. And the results were pretty obvious today. Yeah. I mean, Greg has made the point many times on this show, which is that Josh Allen is the most valuable runner in the NFL. And he was in a valuable runner, you know, in most situations, or as a scrambler or as a guy who extends plays as a quarterback and finds guys open and throws a ball a yard away from the sideline.

They didn't need any of that because they won the battle up front. That's the only way to explain how you out gain a team 445 to 233 and you win the time of possession battle by 16 minutes. Okay, you dominated them. They stuffed them in a locker. You want to talk about taking lunch money. They stuffed them in a locker in their place. Sure, it was 31 to 10. By the look of it, though, it could have been even more.

Sure, the turnovers played a part in it. but the bills just went on the road. They flew all the way across the country and they made a statement with a win, which just speaks to how unpredictable this league is because the Seahawks just came off of a resounding victory on the road in Atlanta. They come back home.

They're all geared up and ready to play the bills and then they come away and just getting, you know, kind of dominated at home. And really tough for them. Right. The Seahawks defense has had so many terrible games this year. And, you know, they're coming off a game where they got healthy, literally,

like just their better players are on the field and they perform well in Atlanta, but this is a big step back. There's going to be a lot of questions. They did not have a quarterback hit today, and then they had the rare stat line where they got a team sack, which I'm trying to remember that play,

but Josh Allen must have just run out of bounds at some point, and they decided not to give anyone credit for that sack. And so that's just a day where, look, Gino Smith was facing pressure, usually up the middle, like Connor Williams had a bad, day, but nothing really was working for this Seattle defense. They have the Rams next week. They're four and four, the Seahawks, okay? The Cardinals are four and four. The Rams are at three

and four. This division is just getting started. It's a little bit of a mess. And I would just be, you know, hesitant because I follow a lot of Seahawks fans of like, you know, just let it play out a little bit. The season is not over. It is ugly. But one of these teams in the NFC West, I believe we'll figure things out at some point as we get closer to Thanksgiving in December. Seattle has a good basis to start with with their passing game but everything else kind of needs work.

The running game is just counting on Ken Walker to make people miss and the defense we've been over their issues. And again, the big mistakes were so big that it's tough to get a full evaluation of a lot of things especially offensively. I know the Metcalf being missing

is kind of glaring but they're like Kenneth Walker will turn a negative run into a positive. He'll also sometimes go on little adventures as he did today on the bad snap where he's picking it up. I'm wondering if he's going to try to throw the ball away instead.

It's a massive loss. They go from first in goal to second in goal from the 26th. It was just it was a very bad game from the Seahawks. But as you mentioned, they're not out of it in the division. If you are looking at who has what to be upset about and who has what to feel good about,

you can make a case that Seattle could have more to feel good about than almost anyone other than the Rams getting everybody back and getting that win on Thursday night. I think the Rams are feeling excited. The bills are feeling good about it because the rest of the NFC East is, I mean, the AFC East is absolutely collapsing. They're six and two. Eric, my, my Super Bowl pick is looking good. You got your Dodgers rolling. You got your bills rolling. Shakir goes nine for 107. Tom Brady was loving him. Khalil Shakir. He was saying it reminded him of like a young Danny Amandola or Julian. There is.

I'll say he's closer to Edelman than Amandolo. What do you think? He's spry. When he catches the ball, his feet are moving. No touchdown today, but I felt like every other play was going to him. And he has the ball. He's not looking to go down. It's great.

I love that they were very targeted because the middle of the field of the Seahawks defense is absolutely the weakness. I know they just traded for Ernest Jones, but that's where they were targeting. Kean Coleman goes five for 70. Amari Cooper only has one catch for three yards on two targets. Who knows? But the other wide receivers are eating more. Now that Amari Cooper is in the building, the running game has been pretty good all year.

And, yeah, the defense also just, it's complete, it's healthier than it's been. The bills are absolutely a Super Bowl contender. Let's take another break. And yeah, we'll start after the break with the favorites still for the Super Bowl. I guess they're just always the favorite. Always. Shout out to Khalil Shakir for Breaking the Barrier. 5-03 left in the game. Raiders are out of timeouts.

Second and goal to go for the Chiefs at the 9. Sprint left action, wide open, left side. Totworthy, left front pylon. Touchdown. Kansas City. Xavier Worthy. Back into the end zone for the third time on a reception. Fifth time in his rookie year.

And the Chiefs have blown it open by two touchdown. That was Xavier Worthy. Nine-yard score. WD-A-F. Mitch Holtus. on the call. Stop me, if you've heard this one before. Some of the game is a little ugly for the Chief's offense. They wind up with a big play late.

They win by one score. We move on. Nick Shook, what was different about this Chief's victory over the Raiders? Patrick Mahomes threw a couple touchdown passes. That's the first thing that was different. So all of you who want to get in my Twitter mentions after the next QV index drops and says, how is Mahomes in the top two? He's had a terrible year.

watch this game much like every other game because the guy just creates when things are breaking down. He extends plays. He keeps drives moving. And that's what he did again today. Couple that with a strong defense. And this is the performance you get. And this happened after Mahomes had his hand hit on a throwout of the end zone. And it was picked off.

And the Raiders had the ball inside Kansas City's 10. And they got nothing out of it because of that Chief's defense stood them up on the goal line on four downs and got the ball right back in Patrick Mahomes hands. And they end up coming away with a victory. That's 27 to 20 in the final, but the Raiders did score a touchdown in the last two minutes before they couldn't get the ball back. So you could kind of talk about it as 27 to 13. Chiefs are undefeated. It's not pretty, but they're a damn good football team.

A good football team that saw a solid Gardner-Minshu game, 24-30, two touchdowns. You know, that's hard for Patrick to say. I mean, that's through gritted teeth. No, I say it with a smile in my heart for Gardner-Minchu because apparently Jacoby Myers was the missing piece to this offense, because Jacobi Myers comes back. He has seven targets, six catches, 52 yards, and a touchdown. They got Trey Tucker involved as well. Alexander Madison did nothing in the ground game.

They got that opportunity, and Madison gets stopped, and the Raiders elect to go for it on fourth down. Could have cut it to a one-point game. I think that's the move, though. At this point, you've got to get touchdowns, right? Yeah, you do. You don't have the players or necessarily play calls, but what are you going to do? You got to try to win.

Are you going to ram Madison up into the goal line like three times? Or you take a field goal, you're saying. Yeah, or you can take a field goal. But ultimately, the rollout for Garner Minchu, the chiefs were all over that. Drew Trankle was submarining plays for most of the game until he left the game in the late in the fourth quarter with an injury. But there were so many opportunities and you just, you think that the Raiders team could have pulled this off, just like they, not necessarily the way that they did December of last year. which was a defensive festival.

And Jack Jones is picking off Patrick Mahomes and A.N. O'Connell's doing absolutely nothing. This was a completely different game. They were still in it. They had an on-side kick opportunity that almost bounced their way. It could have been a Hail Mary situation for Gardner-Mintrault.

But again, it's all hypothetical. Somehow, I don't think it would have been quite as, like, you know, beautiful. The arc of the ball would not have been as majestic. And probably the celebration wouldn't have been as raucous with maybe a 50-50 crowd in Las Vegas. guess today. But the chiefs, you know, you said it shook. They're inevitable. And the best Kelsey game that he's out all season, 90 yards receiving in the touchdown. Yeah, 10 for 90 for Kelsey. That's, that's awesome in a touchdown. And it was moving well. It's crazy that the Raiders had 33 yards

rushing and seven of those is like on a Trey Tucker end around. It just gets me to the point of like the chiefs have so many good players. They're just so deep for such a team with like guys getting paid huge bucks, 10 different players had a quarterback pressure in this game on the Chief's defense. So they're just so deep defensively. And yeah, offensively, it's not as talented. But the offensive line is deep. And you have enough guys, including now DeAndre Hopkins, that can catch passes from a home. What was the offensive report from you shook throughout this game? Well, yeah, offensively, not as talented, but schemed by one of the masters of offense in Andy Reed. And that's the most important part with this team, because it's being operated by

an elite quarterback. Now, the rest of the pieces around him, sure, if they were great, they would be elevating the offense. They'd be putting up a ton of points like they did four or five years ago, but it really doesn't matter. All that matters is that they continue to move the chains.

I mean, Kareem Hunt goes for 2.8 yards per carry, and he kind of visually looked like he made a nice impact, like because he's running hard and he scored a touchdown. But it all starts with Mahomes. And as long as they have him, and they protect him well enough to at least allow him to buy time and get out of the pocket. I mean, there were so many times where I would go from one game to the next,

and it'd be third down, and Mahomes would just bounce out of the pocket. he'd be scrambling and he'd find somebody six yards away for a first down just over and over and over again. They're paper cutting teams to death and it's got to be miserable if you're a fan of the opposing defense to watch this every day. But it's really a work of art when you watch it from Mahomes's perspective because we know what he could be when he's putting up these gaudy numbers. Now he's not doing that and they're still winning football games and a lot of it, almost all of it has to do at least offensively with him. A lot of teams that feel like you can stick a fork in him this year. I mean, the Raiders are certainly one of them at two and six.

There are six teams in the AFC that have six losses. The Titans are 1 and 6. The rest are 2 in 6. A lot of teams just like without a lot of hope before Halloween. We're going to talk about another one of them that traveled across the country to play across the sidewalk in SoFi Stadium. Second and 10 here. Herbert to throw. And lobs it downfield for McConkey.

Oh, McConkey, right sideline defender falls. to the 20. Turn on the Jets, Lad, to the 15, to the 10, up field, into the end zone. Ah, lad, touchdown, charges. 15 is a magic number. Ladd McConkey makes it 15 to 5. I love that Ladd McConkey's got his own touchdown call. Matt Money Smith, our friend, on K-Y-S-R.

Mokke added another touchdown later in the game. He ends up six for 11. and two scores. Wide receiver won this week. Hope you picked them up in your fantasy league. I saw them out there on some waiver wires. 26 to 8, the Chargers get it done in the most 2024 Jim Harbaugh Charger Way possible.

It's kind of grinding their opponent to a pulp. And yeah, the Saints fall to 2 and 6 in the most 24 Saints way possible. Not a lot of hope, not a lot of highlights. One of the worst teams in the NFL. But let's give some flowers, Nick Shook, to what I really respect out of the Chargers this year, is that they're just like a professional outfit that wins games they should, which when's the last time you could say that about a Chargers outfit?

You're thinking about their losses. I'm not. I was thinking about last week. I know, but to me that's like two evenish teams. When they've been in a situation where it's just like you should take care of business against a bad offense, it's like they just take care of business and swat the other one away. There's going to be coin flip games. They're not like a Super Bowl champion team.

Sorry. No, I know. I know. I just was like, we just talked about that last week. No. Look, there's a reason that the verb chargering exists and this is not that team. So hats off to you. Chargers fans, congrats.

You have a professional outfit as Greg just described. What you have is a quarterback who's got a swaggerback in Justin Herbert. He threw a touchdown pass to Ladd-McCocki in the fourth quarter of this game. And then he started doing a little head nod. And I was like, I haven't seen that demonstrative version of Herbert in, probably two to three years. Like he's feeling himself. And a big reason why is because he knows he's got at least one guy he can trust. And it's the rookie with the last name, McConkey, who like we said, six for 111 and two touchdowns. How about this? He, according to next gen

stats, caught all three of his targets out of the slot for 84 yards and two touchdowns. And they can move him around. He can make a difference. He's a reliable guy, which is what they've been missing, especially since Keenan Allen and Mike Williams left in the off season. So another strong day from Herbert. He got busy on the ground. They got a little bit from JK. It was just enough. And they played good defense, physical defense. That's the most important part. Physical defense against a Saints team that can't protect their quarterback.

And they also don't have a quarterback who's really equipped to handle the speed or the responsibilities of being a starting NFL quarterback right now. They're in a bad spot offensively. No matter whether it's Jake Hainer who replaced Spencer Rattler, just pulled, you know, Rattler for Hainer. He didn't do much better. Statistically, they were almost even. They both get the ball out and sometimes they don't know where it's going. And that's how you end up with eight points as an offense, as the Saints did today. Yeah, some high throws as well

kind of wasted a solid effort because Alvin Camer made some plays today that were in a close game that could have ultimately been the difference but the Saints couldn't get a lot of production on the offense good to have Chris Olave back. They almost lost him again. He had to go in to be evaluated for a concussion on a similar looking play to the one that he got hurt

where he kind of gets sent on a mission and blasted. Rattler has thrown some, I like Rattler but he's thrown hospital balls at a higher clip than any quarterback I've ever seen. And so like thankfully, Chris Olave is able to come back into the game. I don't know who has high hopes for MvS coming in and replacing what Rashid Shahid had to offer. But I guess I got news for them if they missed the last five or six years of professional football.

But my big takeaway, because there was a play in this game where Justin Herbert had a throw late, Shepard for the Saints is twisting his leg low. and Bradley Bozeman immediately. This isn't like a post-twist reaction immediately pounces on Shepard. Flags are thrown. But it showed to me like this

it kind of symbolized what a healthy Herbo means to this team and especially to this offensive line because they're nothing without him. And for him to, then he goes off and has a huge run immediately after that.

I mean, Justin Herbert average 12 yards a carry in this game. He's doing everything. And really didn't even need to do it against the listless Saints offense. It really had nothing to offer today. I think he's been one of the best quarterbacks in the league since the buy. So that's only three weeks. But if the QB index started in week six,

whatever it was after their buy, we're just talking the last three weeks of the season, he's top five, top seven, like whatever it is. He's playing at a very, very high level. You know,

his teammates didn't help him out last week, but you see the athleticism. You see the arm. And you start to believe in this lousy AFC that, they got a shot certainly to sneak into the playoffs yeah i mean at four and three they're in a situation where they could definitely if they continue to pile these wins up the thing is is like the eye test you're going to think oh they don't look like an impressive team but they're a physical team with a good quarterback who's got a lot of armed talent and is able to when he's healthy

really handled the job very well and i think that goes a long way because if you can win at the point of attack and if you can get your ground game going here and there as long as you have that quarterback you're going to be in most games this is not a litmus test against these saints they're They're definitely not a measuring stick. But if you can, those are your staples, those your calling cards, physical defense, really good quarterback, receivers that are starting to come into their own. Jalen Rager made a nice catch down the sideline. Don't expect a lot from him, but he made a nice play.

And I was like, all right, you didn't fumble at this time. That's a good step forward. Then you're going to be in the mix. So they're at least a team that I can respect and watch every week and not think like, oh, they're going to blow it. You have, you have Shook's respect. Yes, Josh Palmer with a 45-yard or a 27-yard. they are playing

kind of that old school in theory Harbaugh type of football where it's the running game needs to be better for really to make sense but that the passing game does have shot plays and that's I think you need that

to take advantage of who Herbert is it's a low moment for the Saints in a season full of them Marshawn Latimore leaves with an injury you wonder if that's his last snap as a saint would not be surprised if he's traded before the deadline depends how serious I suppose that

that injury is Camara goes for 122 yards from scrimmage but, you know, there's not much pressure there. Joey Bosa came back for this game. Joe Alt, the right tackle for the Chargers, had more pass sets without giving up a pressure than any rookie, I think, ever or in any game according to Next Gen stats.

So he had a really strong game, but that also speaks to the lack of a pass rush that the Saints have. They don't really do anything well. They'll get Derek Carr back next week. I heard Mickey Loomis on Saints radio this week talk about the rest of the season and say, like, yeah, we're not giving up.

Like, we look at our schedule and we don't see a team on there that we can't beat. I guess, fair. But there's also not a team on that schedule that you can't lose to. Let's go to the next one. Let's talk about some Broncos. Let's talk about some Panthers. Man, this NFC South is tough. Bailey outside of Mims and a slot left, double-tied-in set with Atkins and Troutman in a wing right.

Shotkin snap. Nick's looks left. Floats one of the end zone. He was Troutman, Troutman. One-handed catch. Touchdown, Denver! 19-yard strike, Bo Nix. To Adam Troutman, who snagged him with one hand.

Dave Logan on K-O-A. Broncos, beating him down. Covering that big spread. 28 to 14. Bryce Young comes back in, gives him a little spark at first. It doesn't last. Bo Nix throws for three touchdowns,

284 yards through the air, and the Broncos go to five and three. Are you believing, Patrick? I'm believing that they have a good defense. That past defense, glad that they have Patrick's from Tan back. They picked off Bryce Young twice. Bryce Young, those two touchdown passes,

which is more than Andy Dalton had in the previous three games are combined. But it's... One was with 18 seconds left. Yeah. Fair enough. Garbage time. Yeah, it still counts.

Especially fantasy wise. I don't know who's starting Bryce. Shout out to you. Or Jalen Coker. Is that his name? It's Jay Coker. I think it's, yeah.

Well, there was, because there was no, Adam Thielen, of course, Xavier Leggett, who scores a touchdown in this game,

leaves as well. That was the state of the Panthers receiving core because, you know, there was no Deonté Johnson coming into this game as well.

But over on the other side, it was 28 to 14. You mentioned the spread being covered it could have been worse because Sean Payton, when it was 28 to 7, had a fake field goal attempt. Cortland Sutton on 4th and 1 threw a wide receiver pass when it was 2814 late in this game. Sean Payton, apparently, I was trying to mind Twitter for resources. Like, what did the Panthers do to Sean Payton?

I guess they didn't interview him, which is interesting because there was a plan for him to go to Miami anyway. I just, everything is very confusing. That might be, that's a guess. I'm not. I don't know. I just want to say as the host of NFL daily, we are not fully attributing the reason for going for that trick play to the Panthers not giving Sean Payton an interview.

It's a good theory. It's an interesting theory. But I do feel like there has to be something going on there, but I don't know what it is. It could have been Dave Canales with a funny look at the coaching summit. I have no idea. But Sean Payton was doing everything he could to pour it on for some reason. Maybe he just wants to feel alive on a. On a Sunday afternoon, you know, he just wants to have some fun.

Life is short. It's fine. Go for trick plays up big scores. It doesn't matter. I think it's great. I feel like he's been coaching this whole season just to like prove a point. And like week by week as they start to stack wins with this good defense, he like gets more invigorated and he's got more gusto to him. And he's just like, yeah, you know what?

This week, I'm trying a fake field goal because why not? We're up by three touchdowns. No better time than now to test it out in a game against the team we know we're already going to beat. Let's do it now. But yeah, you're right, Patrick. I can't get a solid read on Bo Nix because Bo Nix himself doesn't have a consistent performance over four quarters

but this game pretty solid they also jumped out to a 28 to 7 lead so you didn't really need to see him tested over four quarters but I mean anytime that you throw for you know 284 yards and three touchdowns and you beat the lowly Panthers it's a good day and they're five and three

and because of that defense we have to take them seriously and we'll see how they go offensively Well, the first two drives, though, end with a fumble by little Jordan Humphrey and then a punt. And so you're down 7-0. And that's a little bit of adversity going into the second quarter. And then to get touchdowns on three straight drives, I think it's a good step. I think Bo Nix has shown progress. Now, he was starting at the very bottom, but he's shown progress.

And we'll see. Like, it's still at a level where if they're playing a quality defense, major questions. But there's only so many of those, like on the sketch. schedule. The Broncos have one of the few defenses in the entire NFL that you're like, that's a difference making week to week defense. There's a lot of bad defenses out there, not any as bad as the Panthers necessarily, but if Bo Nix can just be solid against like bad defenses, they could win a decent amount of games. Yeah. And 28, 30, 20 to 37, 284, three touchdowns. My concern would be Giovante only having 44 yards on 17 carries against this particular Panthers defense.

Yeah. So maybe a sign of concern. for the run game where that's that may be the frustration not getting things done there maybe results in Sean Peyton taking shots late to try to make the scoreboard look like he feels it should look considering the mismatch of the teams on the field shout out to Cortland Sutton didn't get a target last week you almost knew he was going to go for a big game this week 11 targets 100 yards eight catches and shout out to Adam Troutman a man who when they brought him to Denver I said man Sean Payton just will take any old old like ex saint like they traded for him. Saints fans were like, really? And here he is with like a big game, a great catch, 85 yards and a touchdown. All right, we're going to say goodbye to our good friend Patrick. I've enjoyed doing this program with you. I've enjoyed it as well. I wish my football team would have won. They did not, but I still think they're in charge of that AFC North. We'll see. Steelers on Monday night. So I'm going to throw to the Arizona Cardinals and the Miami Dolphins. Cam Wolf is going to join us. Get in here, Cam. From Miami. And then we're going to hear from Kevin Patra on the other side of the break.

And Shuck, you can rejoin me for the Sunday night football recap. I'll see you then, Nikki. Musical chairs, baby. That's right. Now to Arizona and the dolphins in South Beach. One second left. Cardinals down two. 34-yard try. Snap, ball down. The kick from

Ronald is up. And the kick is good. And the Cardinals win it. The officials took a long time to signal. The kick is good from Riland, and Arizona wins it at the buzzer again. 28, 27 in Miami. That was Chad Rylan, 34-yard field goal. Dave Pash on KMVP.

Cardinals get the upset win in Miami, 28 to 27. Chad Rylan goes from being one of the worst drafted kickers in memory in New England last year, helped end Bill Belichick's career to a guy who's kicking clutch kicks week after week, including I think a 57-yarder in this win. And I am so excited for the first time here on NFL Daily to be welcoming in a man who was at this game in the locker rooms on the field. Cam Wolfe, you watched it up close, not the game we expected, was it? No, not at all.

The Cardinals had plans to ruin the feel-good movie story, which it kind of felt like it was setting up for, you know, two was returning after this concussion that everyone or a lot of people think he should retire from. And, you know, all his teams thinks it's going to galvanize them and save the team after a two and four start. And you forget the quarterback wasn't the only problem. And, you know, Arizona came into play.

Kyler had an amazing game. Marv Harris and him finally got connected. I know that was a question mark for a lot of people. And Trey McBride had an amazing game. day, but really to me, the story is the Dolphins, and just more disappointment. Yeah. It's a team that had huge expectations, and now at

2 and 5, we're wondering, has it already crumbled? Yeah, 2 and 5, you know, it's not a death sentence, but it's a huge setback, and Cardinals fans, we'll give you some love. You're at 4 and 4. You're in the mix. This NFC West race is going to take to the end. Look, hell, you're in first place right now.

So Cardinals, we'll get to you in a second, but the two-a-story, what was the story coming into the week? You followed this you know, really closely. He comes out. He has 28 for 38, 234 yards in a touchdown. Mike McDaniel said after the game, it looked more like the Dolphins' offense,

and that's true. 377 yards overall. They go 11 for 15 on 3rd down. What was their locker room and just this week-like for you because it was a defiant tour at the podium, and then after the game, kind of what did you pick up in the locker room

and after everything that happened in this game? So I'll say this. I was a little worried about something like this happening. And, you know, you talk to a guy like Tyreek Hill during the week. And, of course, he's predictably excited about his quarterback coming in. But the message that Mike B. Daniel tried to give the team is like, Tua is not our savior. And it seemed like that was a hollow message. Like talking to guys around the team, talked to one guy at the locker room,

and he was kind of like, maybe we got too relaxed. Maybe we assumed that, you know, Tua would save everything. And we watched them on Sunday, it very much looked like, particularly on the defensive side of the ball, a group that, like, took a deep breath, like, okay, we're good now. You know, we've been holding the offense up for three weeks when these other guys have been in here, but now Tua's here. And it's all good. And they got exposed by a Cardinals team that was hungry and ready to fight. And honestly, a lot of the questions around the Dolphins has been their grit, what type of physicality and grit and ability to win tough games. comes out to, in that second half, there's a lot of grit moments they lost.

And I think that's probably, to me, the story of this team, a lot of talent, not as much grit. And you sort of look at this team. And like you said, two and five, it's not a death sentence. But they're going to Buffalo next week. Buffalo's up three and a half games in the division on them already. They could put four and a half on them with both tiebreakers with the win in Buffalo next week. I'm sure they'll be very heavy favorites. And so the dolphins are at a precarious spot, and it's weird because Tua played well, the offense played a lot better, and they still lost.

And so that kind of leads you with the what's next for a team that's really been all in for the last two years. Okay, so second half, yeah, they give up three straight scoring drives to end the game, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. Talk me through a little bit what you saw from the defense struggling. And yeah, that's part of the concern that I had coming in. like they didn't look great when Tua was out there before he got hurt. The run blocking has maybe been up and down. Like it was good the last couple weeks, but they had a big play from A-chan today, but that's about it.

Tell me what you saw kind of in the fourth quarter as they were giving up what was a 20 to 10 lead and then a 27 to 18 lead in the fourth quarter. Yeah, they really struggled to get Kyler Murray contained. Like he was very much the playmaker that a lot of us know him to be at his peak where he extends plays. He runs around like, you know, whatever adjective. of a person you can describe him as and he makes plays. Like he threw a great touchdown to Marvin Harrison over Jaylon

Ramsey that just came from extending a play and getting it across his body. I talked to Emmanuel Agba, one of their pass rush after the game and he was like, that's one of the better quarterback games I can remember seeing and we just really couldn't take him down. Like he was like, that was really it. Like we got him in our grasp. He kept

breaking contain and it like broke everything within our defense. And so this is a team that like they've struggled to get pass rush. And I think that's really a core of what I've seen. I watched the game and there was a lot of times they tried blitzes and it seemed like everyone failed and they got big plays out of it. So there's not really an immediate answer of like how do you create conflict and pressure on the quarterback? And I know Anthony Weaver's trying different stuff, but you know, you lose a Jalen Phillips to a serious

injury. Bradley Chubb is still not back from his torn ACL and your first round pick, Chop Robinson's just a little raw. He's pretty much a speed only pass. right now. They just don't have that juice and teams are exploiting that. I mean, let's be real Campbell. If Kyler is representing here, I know, like, compared to us, he's not a real short king, but as NFL players go, he's a short king and he's representing well. I mean, when Callais Campbell, like, volleyball spiked one of his passes early in this game, I thought, oh man, it's going to be a long day for my guy, but he's running around here in 307 yards and two touchdowns. And sometimes you see him on film not take open throws or not see him.

him like he's trying to make the big place, but the flip side is games like this where he's doing it and he's just magical. He's a different sort of player than Tua. You mentioned the defense. Yeah, they only had one quarterback hit in this game, which is just brutal for an entire defense. And that wasn't even from the defensive line. That was from Jordan Hicks. So that that's where the loss has to go. Tell me, I guess, a little bit about where do you think this organization is because in the fans, too, because those fans will turn on this Dolphins team when they're bad. They'll get either disinterested or mad. And I heard there was some fire Greer chance after the game and outside and fire McDaniel and everything. Kind of tell me where

that's at and kind of what it's like in the city right now. Yeah, it's not great, Greg. I'll tell you that. This is a team that really sold itself as like, this is our year. We're all in. And you ask where do you go next? That's almost the more frustrating part. They've paid everyone. They paid Mike McDaniel. They paid to Otung of Iloa, Tyree Kill, Jalen Waddle, Jalen Ramsey. Like, everyone who, you know, everyone who is the core of your team, maybe you could

argue a GM hasn't got an extension, but the core of your team is together and you've paid them long-term extensions and they're in the midst of their worst season in probably six or seven years with the most talent they've had in six or seven years. And so I think that there's no immediate answer.

I think they've got to look within, and really, I think a lot of this comes to like, what is the culture of this team? And I remember being on the road a lot last year and talking to defensive coaches and coordinators and they were like, this is a video game team, but if we feel like we punch them in the mouth, if we get them in our type situations, they'll fold. And the dolphins were really upset by that narrative. Mike McDaniel fought it all year.

There was that they can't beat winning teams. They can't win in the cold. And this year, I think it's more evident than ever that I don't know if they have the the toughness to be able to withstand the playoff race. And teams like this show it, even the games without Tua. If you're a team that one quarterback can take down the whole ship, I think it says a lot about who you are as a team. And, you know, I'll just say this.

Look, they made a decision to go away from Brian Flores a few years ago and go towards Mike McDaniel. A lot of times teams do opposite coaching styles, right? And Mike McDaniel did a lot of great things. for Tua, building this confidence up, bringing this offense to a level it never was. But I do wonder if some of the discipline, some of the physicality, some of the toughness is what was missing from this team that maybe was in previous teams. They're one of the worst teams in the league and penalties.

The second straight year, they're towards the bottom of the league and penalties operation has been an issue. Like that's a discipline thing. And, you know, you can't help but know, you got a fun loving group, got a fun loving and coach, that kind of becomes your team. You just want to have fun. And fun is great until you start getting on a losing streak, and you start losing games, you shouldn't lose.

And then, you know, it's not that fun anymore. I start thinking, remember the Titans, you know, fun? Is football fun? Today was not fun. I mean, they have a 20 to 10 lead. It's halfway through the second quarter, or the third quarter, rather. And, you know, it's a bad snap that maybe, Tua said he could have maybe had it, but it was a bad snap.

It ends up being a safety. It's 20 to 12. From that point forward, here's what the defense did. They gave up a 75-yard, 9-play touchdown drive, a 70-yard, 8-play touchdown drive to the Cardinals. And then here's the kicker. And the Dolphins' offense hardly collapsed. I know they punted once in there, but they also scored a touchdown in there. They only had seven drives in this game on offense.

That is a light day of offense, eight drives, rather. and they scored 27 points. But to finish the game, and this is where I want to give Cardinals, their flowers, their fans, their flowers. Drew Petzing has taken some slings and arrows this year. Their offensive coach, they're not that talented on defense. They get the ball back with five minutes left in the game. They go 13 plays, 83 yards.

That includes a penalty in there. So 73 total before that game-winning field goal. That is tough, smash-mouth type football. James Connor, but it was more of the passing game. McBride. Harrison, Wilson, Connor, Murray, putting it on the Dolphins and kind of to your point showing who's the tougher team. And that is a galvanizing win for a Cardinal team that's just looking to be relevant. I couldn't believe this stat camp.

This is the first time they've won back-to-back game since 2021. That's wild. So they're a team now. They're a real team. They're in this race and props and give them their flowers. So that's a great stat because I actually talked to Marv Harris and Jr. after the game. We have 101 for NFL Network. And I asked him about the meaning of this.

And that's the first thing he mentioned. He was like, this is the first back-to-back win that most of the guys in the locker room have ever seen. He was like, I know it's my first year. But he's like, most of the guys we talked about in the locker room, this is one of the first back-to-back wins they can remember seeing. And he's like, this is how you build a culture. And I thought that was very interesting because I didn't know the 2021 stat. I just knew he said, and I'm like, oh, maybe all these guys have been in for one year. But that's three years since you've won back-to-back games.

They started to have a little spurt at the end of last year. I remember that big win against Philly. I think they had one against Pittsburgh as well. But you just kind of see sprinkles. And now you see more consistency in spurts winning against, you know, the Chargers last week, winning against Miami this week. And I thought that final drive told a lot about the team. Like Miami is the team that has the most talent. They have a lot to play for.

They're the expectations team. And every single play, the Cardinals see. seemed like they just had a little extra. You know, Kyler made somebody missed. You know, Marv Harrison, who I keep repeating because he had a great game, kept making plays in the open field. Trey McBride had an amazing game as well. And they kept putting themselves in situations where the dolphins could have made a stop

and they didn't. And, you know, I just think that, you know, it won't be this year. I don't know if they're a playoff team this year, but I just think that, you know, this team is headed in the right direction with Kyler at the mitts. I know there's often been the question of, hey, should they get a new. quarterback. I saw everything I need to know in Kyler. He's not the issue. I got to get the rest of the talent of the roster ready.

Cam Wolf, NFL Network, big time win for the Cardinals. Big time win for us to get Cam on the show. We'll do it again down the road. Appreciate you, Cam. Appreciate you, Greg. All right. We are going to take a quick break and we'll be back with the rest of the games. At the Coltsport team, Stroud under center, handoff Nixon, starts right, cuts left, 10, 5.

Nixon still going, takes out a defender, and takes the ball into the end zone. Jones couldn't bring him down. Nixon has six for Houston, and they can tie the game with the extra point. Mixing with a grown man run. Get off me! What a run by Joe Mixon. I am a fan. Joe Mixing.

Just an outrageous runner this year when he gets the ball in space. That only tied a 10 to 10, but that was my favorite highlight, my favorite play in a game that was just a little weird. The Texans end up winning this, holding on 23 to 20. And yes, as I mentioned before the break, bringing in our friend Kevin Patra. Hey. What is your biggest takeaway? Because to me, it's like, okay, the Texans are in charge of this division. and they lose Stefan Diggs to an injury in this game.

I'm not sure what to feel about either one of these teams, but where do you want to start, Kevin? Well, how I started in what we learned this week is defining it as the Texans survived. They survived a near collapse. They survived a really bad turnover on a pitch from C.J. Stroud. And C.J. Stroud survived behind an offensive line that continues to be really bad as a past protecting unit.

He was under siege all day. I think it was like 57% pressure rate, something ridiculous. And he just couldn't get anything going on offense. Mixon was like the stabilizing force. He had 102 yards and that touchdown that we saw. And other than that, there was like, it was up and down all game. And then when Diggs went out, you know, it was funnel everything through Tank Dell. But as far as the Texans go, they really just kind of meander their way through this and let Anthony Richardson kind of hand him

the victory there. Yeah, let's get to it. So, Richardson finishes 10 for 32. Yeah. I don't even know where those 10 came from. Honestly, it was, I say he did complete 10 passes. Like, that's how bad it was. He did have a couple good throws that I thought could have been caught,

like one or two in there, like the touchdown throw to, who was that to, to downs? Not the long touchdown, not the long touchdown throw. I'm thinking of another one that that wasn't caught. to the pylon or whatever, to A.D. Mitchell. That was a beautiful throw where, like, that's the one play where you look at it, and you're like, see, that's what everyone wants to see him moving in the pocket, making a good decision, and throwing an absolute dime. But where do you think he's at with playing at the NFL level?

It's weird. He reminds me of, like, somebody who would have played in, like, the 70s or the 80s, like just bombs away, but, like, very poor accuracy on the intermediate routes, which is, like, something we don't see nowadays. His quarterbacks are like 75% completion rate. Like, and he just, and his misses aren't close, really. I mean, he's putting in a guy's feet. Everything is behind it.

Receivers got to, you know, twist their contort their body just to make it close. And then he uncorks a bomb. And it could, one got completed today, but most of them, you know, it was just off the marker throwing it out of bounds. He's just very inconsistent. And I was really surprised that Shane Stike and kept putting the ball in his hands, especially with Jonathan Taylor back. And Taylor looked good.

20 carries for a buck 05. So, I mean, they could have ram the ball more. And I think Colts fans would say that that's what they were thinking about. I thought this whole game was like, who's going to run the ball and who's going to make a play on the ground? Because the offensive lines could not pass protect at all. And what we haven't even gotten to is De Neal Hunter was ridiculous today. And so was Will Anderson. And the two coming off the edge made life miserable for Anthony Richard.

And he couldn't escape for him it. Well, that makes more sense. Like, look, they are a defense with stars that has created issues for much worse, or much better offenses than this. Now, Jonathan Taylor, I agree, like, looked fantastic in this play, but, I mean, in this game. But, yeah, when Richardson was holding the ball more than two and a half seconds, he goes five for one, for 23.

I mean, that is just outrageous. And I know he was under pressure on some of those and he had some rushing ability, but it is a tricky spot. He also missed a play. It's going to become a big talking point that he said he was, you know, tired. He got twisted down. So at the time, I was like,

well, maybe he's a little banged up. It was third and long, and they just were like, okay, this is a give up play anyway. So I think the coaching staff would probably say it's not a big deal. But that mentality is, you know, that's going to be questioned moving forward.

I don't think that is that big of a deal. I think not being able to really run a consistent NFL passing game is a bigger deal. That Michael Pittman goes from so valuable to six targets, one catch when Richardson goes in. You just like lose the value of one of your best players. It's problematic. Tell me what I'm not seeing in Stroud's Day because, yeah, he was under a lot of pressure. He still ends up being able to complete 25 of 37 for, for 285. But without Diggs and without Nico Collins, man, it's just, that's a struggle. It's tough living. And you could tell, like, the pressure was starting to, I would use the word annoy for him more than like, you know,

make him, he can still complete passes and he makes plays out of structure like we saw last year and he continues to do that. But his pass were just a tick off, like a tick behind, not as bad as Anthony Richardson's, but just like something wasn't right. And he just seemed like he was getting annoyed with himself and with the lack of protection. At one point, they pulled left guard, green and replaced him. And then his replacement got injured. So he was right back. Like, they clearly were trying to bench him. And then they couldn't because his replacement got hurt. so he was back in there. They need to fortify the interior of that offensive line.

I don't, I mean, it's really hard to trade for offensive line in it, right? Like, ever in the middle of the season. But, like, if there was ever a team that really needed it. Yeah. It's coaching. They need to figure it out. To your point. And now that I look at the next gen numbers, it's absolutely crazy.

So I pointed out earlier in the show that the Bengals didn't have a single quick pressure on the day, which means under two and a half seconds. Dio Odingbo had five on his own. He was one of seven Colts who not only had pressures, but quick pressures. So multiple, multiple quick pressure. So Latsu had three, Pay had two, Buckner had two, Bruckner had two, Brian had two, EJ Speed,

their linebacker, I too. Those are the quick pressures. I could go into like the just total pressures numbers and they're absolutely outrageous. And yeah, like the Texans had a ton too. Hunter had 12, Will Anderson at 7. It was just a game of pressures. But if you look at like the quick numbers,

it was even more dramatic on the Colts side. And then I think it's absolutely fair to kind of compare the two. It's like one young quarterback, who's one of the best young quarterbacks I've ever seen, can make it work and make an NFL offense because he's so ahead of schedule. And the other quarterback absolutely can't because he's behind schedule.

And if the Colts are really trying to win games, that's the most important thing. I think they start Joe Flacco next week, but I don't think they're at that point. I don't think they should be either. I don't think, honestly, I don't think they should be. It's not all about 2024.

I think it's fair to ask that question. Like, should they, if they're, you know, now they're two games behind in the division because they lost this game. But if the goal is Anthony Richardson to be your franchise quarterback, yo-yoing him in out of the lineup is not going to do anybody any good. Wouldn't surprise me if at some point he gets benched for a couple games and then reinserted after a few. We will see.

Let's go to Detroit where quarterback controversies That's for bad teams That is a long time ago That Detroit had quarterback controversies Off out of the gun Hands it to Jemir Gibbs Gives there goes across 30 go

35 to the 40 There you go It's a foot raised down the left sideline Gibbs 20 15 10 5 and no Touchdown Detroit Lions Oh baby 70 yards Jamir Gibbs found the

opening and they couldn't find him. That is Dan Miller and Loemus Brown on WXYT. Remember that stat a couple weeks ago that Jemir Gibbs had somehow not popped a 20-yard run all season. And then the last couple of weeks, all it is is 20-yard runs, 70-yard runs. He finishes with 127 on the ground on only 11 carries. David Montgomery adds a rushing touchdown and a past. touchdown. The Lions dropped a 50 burger on the Titans at one point.

Through three quarters. Right, through three quarters. At one point in this game, they had 49 points in 26 net passing yards. Jared Goff finishes with only 85 yards through the air and three touchdowns. It's a laffer. This is what you can do when you're one of the best teams in the NFL. Kevin Patrick, how does it feel? It's hilarious because I was thinking during the game, I'm like, man, I remember these games being on the the losing side so many times of like just getting walloped and there's nothing you can do about it. I mean, it was crazy. The line started drives on the interception on the second drive started Tennessee's 23. A big, big kickoff return started at Tennessee's 25. Another interception

started Tennessee's 12. Another punt return started Tennessee's 22. Then a kickoff return for a touchdown. I mean, the offense didn't have to do anything. This was a day off for Jared Gough. He didn't have to do anything at all. You know, he took some stacks. I would, he might have been able to little banged up with his ankle. We'll find out more going forward because he did get get rolled up on. But they didn't have to do. After the Gibbs touchdown blast off, it was more like they were practicing red zone offense all game, all they were doing. And what's awesome about that is that the defense can create big plays. You get the huge 90-yard touchdown return by Khalif Raymond. Your special teams are making plays so that it doesn't all have to be about the

offense and the offensive line. In a day where you, you're playing up against a pretty good pass rush and a pretty good run defense. You can still exert your will on the other team. Mason Rudolph starting the game, he ends up having a couple interceptions. Tony Pollard, who's like the only good part of this Titans team,

has a nice day on the ground. And it was funny because Calvin Ridley was the squeaky wheel this week, saying they don't get me the ball much in the first quarter and he had 100 yards in the first quarter. And none of it mattered. None of it mattered. The Jets are, I mean, the lions are just that good. Leporta, nice to see him finally makes.

some big plays. I mean, what are you even worried about right now as a lion's fan? It's going too well? I mean, the pass rush is going to be an issue. They need to make a move before the deadline. I mean, maybe they could get Arden Key after they just played him and he had two sacks today on Jared Gough. Maybe they can flip him since the Titans are, you know, in cell mode. But that was an issue early. I mean, Mason Rudolph was moving the ball up and down the field that Jameer Gibbs scored and then the Titans answer with another touchdown. And then Detroit, it was just then the bottom fell out for Tennessee and it was 38 straight points or whatever it was. So they were moving the ball and I do still have questions about that pass rush because

the secondary, Aaron Glenn deserves a ton of credit for getting these guys in the secondary to play well. But if you can't get pressured, better quarterbacks are going to pick you apart down the road. I love this division. There's so many division games left. So to say that next week's Packers Lions game is like, oh, that's the biggest game. It's like, no, we got a lot a big games between all these teams left. We'll see if the Bears can hang with the other three. We'll see if the Vikings can hang with the Packers and the Lions. We'll see if any of them can hang with the Lions because the Lions look that good lately.

I loved what Dan Campbell said after the game on the podium and in the locker room after the game. This is him on the podium. We did come out to fight and that's what we expected. You know, I felt that we were going to be ready. We were going to be ready. And it's like I told them. And that's what champions do is, and you come out, you don't care what time of day it is,

what the records are, what the surface is. You just, you come out and handle your business. That's absolutely right, Ken Petya. That is which champions. No trap game there. No trap game. Right. They're up for every game and that's always a sign of a great team.

Who can stomp on the bad teams? Because we know the lines are going to play the good teams tight or beat the good teams. We've established that, but who can stop and stay on their P's and Q's. Dan Campbell is getting it done. What a coach you found. I'm happy for you. Kevin Patra, a coach to match that beautiful head of hair. We say goodbye to Kevin Patra, and we head to Sunday night football.

Here's Brock under center, Garendo, the longback, the purdy plunge. He'll take it to the goal line as Purdy in. Right up against the goal line. Touchdown! San Francisco! The Brock Purdy Clunge. Park Purdy takes it in from two yards out. That's Greg Papa on KNBR.

I don't know if that was just an automatic play where Purdy saw what was in front of him, and he decided to take the two yards that were there, but his heads-up quarterbacking, which he did for most of the night, especially on the ground. Purdy ends up with 56 rushing yards. Isaac Arendo in for an injured.

Jordan Mason gets 85 on the ground with a touchdown. The 49ers explode in the, third quarter. Come back from 10 to 3 to make it 27 to 10. And then they hang on for dear life after almost doing what the 49ers do, which is blow a fourth quarter lead 30 to 24. Their defense gets Dak Prescott to go four now at the end of the game. Nick shook. It's like depending on which section of the game you watched, you could think that any unit on either of these teams is terrible or awesome. Like each offense or defense took turns

not looking great or looking dominant, but the 49ers, I think, are the better team overall and they got the win in the end. Yeah, and if you really won an assessment of the Cowboys offense, don't watch that last possession they had, because it was dreadful. Down six points, you burned all your

timeouts, you need to go basically the length of the field, and you call up four of the worst plays possible and don't gain a yard and four and out. Otherwise, you know, like you said, There was a period there, I know, right? I'm freezing for a second just because I'm like, wow, this game, the 49ers are like world beaters for a quarter.

And then they looked like, well, they were going to blow another lead in the fourth quarter. At one point late in the third quarter, I just thought to myself, they're going to slaughter them. Like, this game's going to be over with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter. And then the Cowboys mount a comeback. And neither offense could do much in the first half. And at the end of the night, we're like, what do we know about these teams? We know one thing.

The 49ers got to win. And that's a lot for them because it's been a rough five weeks. And the Cowboys are still the Cowboys who are banged up defensively, got more banged up tonight, and in the end, came up short. Right. They're three and four. And right now, what, there are two games back in the lost column to Washington and Philadelphia. And there's just nothing consistent about this team. Dak Prescott's having the worst season of his career.

Their offense is the worst that it's been in the Mike McCarthy era, really, or at least since 2021. If you look at their EPA per play numbers and their six, accessory. They've been top five in the McCarthy era. And this year they're outside of the top 20. And it reminded me so much of the Ravens game where they fall way behind. They play their best football. CD-Lam

in deck, you know, looking great in the fourth quarter down by a handful of scores. I'm not going to say it's garbage time because you got the ball back. As you mentioned, with four minutes to go, your defense stepping up with a chance to win. Actually, I do think those four plays are the ones to watch, Nick, because I think

they're very telling about this season. First play on that drive, first and 10, Dak Prescott throws it into a 49ers team meeting. If Fred Warner doesn't break the ball up, Diominole Lador is going to pick it off and the game's

over, like two or three, 49ers, and I don't know what Dak was thinking. And there's just been more of those plays than you would expect this year, two interceptions in this game. One of them was a great defensive play, but still, that was another one. So that's play number one. Then you try a deep

shot to Cavante Turpin, which was a great throw, could have been an absolutely great play, but just poor execution, Turpin can't come down with it. But then you think about it, and it's like, we're throwing perimeter shots to our 5-7 receiver because we don't really have anyone else to throw to. Then third down, he's under a lot of pressure and he throws it in completion or that that's the fourth down. And there was another where he was flushed out and had to throw it. out the sideline. It's just like, if it's not the offensive line, it's Dak. If it's not Dak, it's one of the receivers.

Yeah, I mean, you get no running game tonight, 10 for 34 from Ziegli Elliot. But you're actually, you're absolutely right. Those four plays did kind of describe the Cowboys in a nutshell because, first off, situational football, why are you calling those plays as if there's 45 seconds left with no timeouts? I mean, the shot to Turpin down the sideline was a perfectly placed ball by, by Dak Prescott. But it's Turpin.

It's a small guy who's mainly a returner who's become a receiver out of necessity. You're not throwing it up to CD land. You're not throwing up to anybody with any size, and he doesn't make the play. Why are you taking shots or at least putting DAC in a situation where it feels like he's got to make a 30-yard completion just to keep them alive when there's 10 yards to go and you're outside of the two-minute warning? That speaks to the Cowboys in their dysfunction offensively, which has been, which has plagued them for most of the year. The other thing is this, why did it take them falling behind 27 to 10 for them to wake up offensively? Not to take anything away from the 49ers. We played a great third quarter and deserved this win.

They're the better team. But why did it take you that long? Why did it take you that long against the Ravens to wake up and actually move the football? This is just indicative of what they've dealt with all year and why I know you took a little bit of heat. But you also said the Cowboys were going to collapse this year. Frankly, after watching the game like tonight, I'm on board with you. I think you're right. I think they're going nowhere fast.

Yeah, that was our step on the tiny table. Tiny table, not the tiny box. Colleen, we would never step on her. would not step on Colleen. It's not looking good. I mean, CD made some nasty catches in this game 13 for 146 and two touchdowns. A lot of that came late, but he also had like an insane catch to start the game off on what ended up being a scoring drive.

Like, they made good place. The 49ers, they just needed to get to their buy. You mentioned the injuries. Bosa, for most of the night, really made a difference in this game, flushing Dak Prescott out, having a big sack, getting a lot of pressure. Purdy made good decisions. Debo Samuel gets a rib injury, so he plays and makes a big play. Has a big gainer in the first half, four for 71 overall.

Pearsall gets involved, four catches, 38 yards, and had a big time run in the second half. Mason goes down and you get good rushing production out of Grendo and pretty. This was just a survive and advance game for them. Get to the buy. You get Tampa, who's been very erratic coming out of the buy, and hopefully you get see, you know, Christian McCaffrey back after the buy

and you have a chance. We're in an NFC West where all four teams have four losses. The Rams are at three and four. The other three are at four and four. And it's probably not going to... None of them look like world beaters. Like this division is totally for the taking. If there was every year for the 49ers

to have their lumps and have all these injuries and still be in the hunt, it's this year. And winning a game like tonight puts them in a great spot. Yeah, that's a good point, that you could look at it two ways that the 49ers are ripe to be picked off. Or you can look at another way like this. Right now, we don't see a team like, let's say, the 2023 Rams or certainly the 2021 Rams, where a team that looks ready to take over this division. And the 49ers have gone about it the other way, being the world beaters,

maybe they can figure out a way to be playing their best in December, which just feels like miles away right now. I did think it was important for Purdy to go out there and have a productive, efficient game against a very vulnerable defense. The Cowboys will get Micah Parsons back maybe next week to Marcus Lawrence at some point. But overall, they just didn't have enough answers. You had all the answers, though, today, Shook. Yeah, you know, Greg, I have one question for you before we wrap.

Where is Brock Purdy in your mind right now? Because he's had some stinkers this year. This was not one of those. He created and he did throw the ball well, but he's had some stinkers. I'm glad you ask. They've been in the last month. We have quarterback island returning. So if you're listening,

let us know who you think deserves to be on, who doesn't deserve to be on quarterback island. Maybe we'll take that into consideration before we tape. But Purdy will be an interesting discussion. He was an easy one. The first one around, this time, he won't be, I think, as much of a slam dunk. But I've got some opinions.

I'll hold them for now. And yes, thank you for listening. If you made it this far, If you like these juicy shows, this was a no-by-week show, and yet we tried to get as much of the sound in as we can. Like, maybe this show is too long. I don't know. It's all in my head, Eric.

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