NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2025 NFL Draft Day 2 Recap!

Episode Date: April 26, 2025

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Nick Shook to recap rounds two and three of the 2025 NFL Draft. The guys starts with a discussion about Shedeur Sanders not being selected through three rounds (01:10), followed by break downs of the Saints selecting Tyler Shough (04:40), the Browns selecting Carson Schwesinger and Quinshon Judkins (10:00), and the Seahawks selecting Jalen Milroe (13:55). Gregg and Nick then tell you why they like what the Texans (15:15), Raiders (22:54), Patriots (28:10), Bears (38:30), and Lions (44:28) have done so far and give you more reaction from night two of the Draft. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to NFL Daily, where sometimes it's about the players who didn't get picked. I'm Greg Rosenthal here on night two of the NFL draft. Round two and three are in the books, and I am thrilled to be joined for the first time this week by our friend Nick Shook, welcome from Cleveland, who is in the mix tonight with quarterbacks, but not the one we would have expected.

Yeah, they got in the mix throughout the night. Obviously, there's big attention on them because of quarterback, but a shocker of sorts near the back end of the third round that I'm sure we're going to get into that I'm also sure nobody saw coming. What? You want to lead the show with? with Dylan Gabriel, go do it. You just wrote a post.

Nick is on NFL.com right now, like pounded out posts. And yes, it was kind of the appropriate coda to a night that I think will be remembered because Chador Sanders didn't get drafted and we'll get into some of the reasons why. And I don't want the whole show to be about Chadour. We'll go through the other teams and all the interesting picks throughout the night

kind of give you some highlights, some winners, some losers, all of that. But I don't think we're making too big of a deal of it to talk about one of the most, you know, well-known players in college football over the last few years that was on a lot of big boards in the top 25, a consensus first-round pick at quarterback who falls this far. It's not just because his last name, it's Sanders. It's because of an entire ecosystem that not only maybe evaluated him in a way that was

unfair to him and was wrong, but an entire league that just says, like, we don't even want you as our backup. We would rather have Jalen Milrow and Dylan Gabriel and should our standards wind up on a team on Saturday, but just kind of your thoughts watching the whole night transpire like that. It was definitely pretty shocking.

It was not entirely surprising that he didn't go last night, but I thought at some point, perhaps even at 33 with the Browns on the clock, that he would be in play. I know a lot of the TV talk was centered around the fact that he didn't go in the first round, that he would be one of the top people to pay attention to going into day two or

night two of the draft. And now that we're at the end of night two and he's still available, well, now we kind of have to pick up the pieces and figure out why. We really won't know why, at least for a while. At some point, we'll find out. But yes, definitely a shock as we get to day three tomorrow and he's still not taken. Like, multiple things can be true. He's not as physically talented or exciting in some ways as a Jalen Milrow or even a Tyler Shuck. And you can see why individual teams preferred Shuck. You can see that Kellen Moore would see Shuck as his kind of quarterback. He also is a guy that I think teams probably look at and it's not

about his personality. It's about being worried about can we handle it and they're almost, as Patrick Claibon would say on Blue Sky tonight, afraid to compete. Like they would rather take a guy like Dylan Gabriel who's a clear backup and they don't have to deal with any questions that come with Schroeder Sanders. And ultimately, picks like that do happen in NFL drafts. It's not always players as famous as Shudor Sanders, but it's also weak sauce to me. You know, like, Dylan Gabriel should not be going in front of him. No, I agree. And I understand that there are questions about certain abilities or maybe

he's just not all that special and it's not a great quarterback class to begin with. And that's probably part of why we saw him elevated. In last year's class, he's not in those top four or five guys that ended up going anyway in the discussion. But you're absolutely right in the fact that teams are choosing to go with peace or quiet and not a bunch of attention paid, especially now that we're in the backup quarterback range. Because I think they made a good point tonight on NFL Network as well, which is that at this point, you're drafting them to be your backup. Do you want the attention that's going to come with that? And, you know, not to turn it back to Cleveland, but when I was with them, with the Browns, that was when O'Dell was on the roster. And that was when if O'Dell wasn't

healthy to play, it was all about O'Dell all the time. And it was a constant buzz and it wasn't necessarily the most positive buzz. So I could understand why some teams wouldn't want that. to affect them unless you're a really stable franchise that knows you have a defined starter. But yeah, I agree. It's kind of weak sauce. You don't want to compete. So we won't know for a while exactly why so many teams have now passed on him, but eventually we will find out. There really were fewer teams, I think, that were in the quarterback market, this draft than usual. And it really was a weak quarterback draft.

And I watched Shadur Sanders' tape. And it's not special tape. It doesn't look like the type of guy who would normally get taken early. but let's go to Tyler Shuck. When a guy like Tyler Shuck gets taken 40th overall, it does remind you that this is a premium position that gets pushed up drafts. Tyler Shuck goes to the Saints at 40. He is older than Brock Purdy.

My favorite thing I learned tonight in the entire draft is that Joanne Johnson and him were once teammates at Oregon. Joanne Johnson is a tight end on the Saints who's entering his sixth NFL season and his third NFL contract. This is a guy in Shuck that, had a ton of different injuries. He is talented.

He can throw the ball. He can move. He's athletic. Jordan Rodrigue pointed out on this show that he's Kellynne Moore's type of guy. Maybe it was to me privately. I don't think I'm giving it away. It was just her connecting dots of the type of guy who's going to basically do exactly what the play is called and go from there.

I just look at Chuck and I see a guy with injury history that. absolutely crumbles when pressure is around him in the pocket. And yeah, you can say, Sheter Sanders, for instance, holds the ball too long. Like, that dude is not afraid. That is maybe the number one thing I'm looking for in a quarterback, pocket presence. Every NFL quarterback can handle, you know, throwing the ball when they're protected well. The difference in the NFL is, can you handle it when some pressure is around you? Do you have the pocket presence? Do you have the movement? Do you have special skills to, you know, create plays? Sanders maybe isn't doing that as much. But Chuck did not have that at all.

So I don't think this pick is going to be great for them. And I think Tyler Shuck might be their week one starting quarterback. It is crazy to me that I think they just took a bridge quarterback as their number 40 overall pick because I kind of think them taking Shuck told me they don't expect Derek Carr back. I might be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Derek Carr traded this offseason. It would have to be after June 1st if that happens. Well, yeah, because there are some concerns about availability, right? But, Greg, I'm old enough to remember.

and I've been in this game long enough now to remember when Tyler Shuck was lighting it up at the Elite 11 and when he was going to Oregon and everyone was like, this is such a good get for the ducks. This is so, I remember when I'm listening to back when there was a Pac-12 network, Yogi Roth talking about Tyler Shuck and how it was a massive get for the ducks back then.

That was a long time ago. And yet the first person I think of and that this is going to be the common comp is going to be, well, the Browns once spent a first round pick on Brandon Whedon, so it can't be that bad. Well, it can be that bad if you have no other options. But then again, we're also in a world in which you can spend the 40th overall pick on a quarterback, be bad, and then spend the top pick or a top five or top 10 pick on a Kyler Murray the next year or a player of that caliber. That is what I was saying when I think, like, they might have just drafted a bridge quarterback 40th overall because if it just doesn't go well with this year and there's not a lot of reason to believe the Saints team is going to go particularly well, they'll be back in the quarterback market a year from now and you'll have like a reasonably priced backup.

It's not that crazy. I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth because I always say take a quarterback every year until you find one. So they're giving him a shot. I think he's more talented than Brandon Whedon. You know who he kind of reminds me of is another quarterback that went in the second round who actually had a lot of physical gifts, certainly better college production than Tyler Shuck, can make all the throws, but doesn't really play well under pressure, a guy by the name of Derek Carr.

How about that coming out of Fresno State? Okay. Carr was a better prospect, but he was a second round pick for a reason. And I think that was it. And he was a guy that I've never loved watching because he doesn't play that great under pressure. And yeah, this car thing, to point it out, he's got a shoulder injury that could need surgery or it might not. It seems like there's something going on between the Saints and Derek Carr. Reportedly, he asked for a raise earlier this offseason that they didn't give to him.

He sounded like he kind of wanted to go elsewhere. they would take a huge cap hit if they trade him anywhere before June 1st. But if you told me this adventure ends with Derrick Carr being a backup somewhere, Cleveland? I don't know. Cleveland has too many quarterbacks now. Like in August after someone gets hurt, that kind of is how I see that ending. But yeah, I think Tyler Shuck is like the second most likely, you know, rookie to be starting

like week one. If I was going, like which rookie is starting early as him or Jackson Dard? I would guess Tyler Shuck. Just a guess. Yeah, because of the situation with Carr, that makes sense. Although I will say, I don't think the Browns have too many quarterbacks. I think that they remain in play beyond the draft, even after drafting Dylan Gabriel. Let's go over it. Just for the list.

You have Kenny Pickett. We got Joe Flacco. Joe Flacko and Dylan Gabriel. And in the last week and a half when I was spending all this time with the assorted family members, all I got was a million questions about Joe Flacco. Well, I'm glad to see they got Joe Flacco back. And I had to disappoint all of them in one fell swoop and saying, what you got in 2023 is not going to happen again.

One of those guys, not Dylan Gabriel, unless it's an abject disaster, which they don't expect, is going to be expendable if a better option becomes available. That situation's not set right now. No. Don't be surprised. Don't forget. Kenny Pickett is there as well.

And yes, Dylan Gabriel, shout out to the short kings out there. Like, I'm rooting for him, just an undersized guy who kind of profiled as a potential long-term backup. People thought he might go to Miami because maybe a similar style to a Tungo Bayloa. And Stephansky is good with quarterback. So they might have found it while we're on Cleveland. It's just, okay.

They take the very first pick tonight, Schwessinger, the linebacker, out of UCLA. Then they come back and they take Quintan Judkins, the running back out of Ohio State, who was hilariously in the bathroom, we believe he wasn't in the room when they called them. And so his mom had to pick up the phone. You thought it was going to be Trayvion Henderson. It ended up being his teammate Judkins, the bruiser, who's kind of like the Nick Chubber replacement. And then they take tight-end Harold Fanon Jr., who is a really unique player. So a lot of offensive talent, Schwestinger, was a guy who I thought might even go in the first round,

an off-ball linebacker. As a Browns fan, what did you think about the Browns draft? I think it was an interesting. There's takes and angles on each of these. So let's start with Judkins, because I just have to explain myself real quick. Some mixed signals of sorts in the back channels that go on during the draft here in which, yeah, I thought it was going to be Trayvon-Henderson, and it wasn't. But when I think about the two running backs,

they're two different backs that worked really well in tandem, in part because Judkins, at least when you watch them on tape and then you watch them at the Combine, I think he's an incredible route runner and he's going to be a threat in that area. And he's the type of back that they're going to need to get some stability in the backfield because they've just been cycling through guys

since Nick Chub got hurt in 2023 and they need some sort of stability there. Don't be surprised if they find a way to bring Nick Chub back and it's sort of a weird three-man backfield with him and Jerome Ford and now Judkins. But I like that pick a lot. and then we go back to Schwestendor, right? Okay, so at 33, that's where I thought it was going to be Henderson.

It ends up being him, and what it signaled to me was two things. One, this is a regime that does not draft linebackers often. The last linebacker of note that I can remember that they drafted in the first two or three rounds was Jeremiah Uwusu Coromoa, who also suffered an injury last year that has many people concerned whether he's going to play again. The Browns have remained coy on the matter throughout the offseason. They have not given any details. They've kept it all very close to the vest.

And I think it suggests one of two things. Either we're going for depth or we're going for options because we don't know if JOK is going to be able to play again. Now, the assistant general manager, Glenn Cook, quickly came out right after the pick and said, doesn't have anything to do with JOK, we just liked him. We liked him and how he fits in our defense.

I don't believe you. I think that's because you're concerned that JOK is never going to play again or won't play again this year. I love JOK. You know what? They can fit together. I think Schwestenjig's like maybe a little more traditional. I would say not as versatile because no one's as versatile.

So it's a position also that takes you a couple years to really get up to speed at the NFL level and someone that people were really excited about. So you take them. It's a pick for the future like all of these picks should be. But yeah, I'm interested. Judkins, maybe the biggest fantasy football winner of the entire night because there's a, Clear path to a whole lot of carries in Cleveland. Just touches in general,

because I think he's going to be a pass catcher as well. Oh, and on Fanon as well. Isaiah likely was my comp when I'm sitting there watching him in Indy. I saw that pop up a lot tonight. I love this guy as an athlete. I'm also a Mac guy, and he stays in the state of Ohio. The Browns went with two of the three guys they drafted tonight, played college ball in Ohio,

and Fanon played football at Kent McKinley High School, which, by the way, they play their games right next to the Hall of Fame. So they went with the local ties there that'll make their fans. happy. That's right. Yeah. And Fanon, if you go back on NFL daily and go back to the first time we talked about prospects, this entire offseason was with Nate Tyson. He pointed out Fanon as just one of the totally bizarre unicorns in this draft. And it's such a good tight end draft. I'm looking forward to how these guys all fit in. He's one of them. One of the first comments we got tonight, if you're listening to this on audio, we love you. We did decide to go live on YouTube late on a

Friday night in Cleveland. One of the first comments was from Brad Keow saying Seahawks having a sneaky great draft. And I totally agree with that. They took team athlete and they finished their night by taking Jalen Milrow out of Alabama. And I was thinking how in another world where Shadur Sanders doesn't exist, the conversation of like, when is Milro going to go?

We've been through these drafts enough to know that would have been the conversation instead of Shadur because you've got to attack. That's the broadcast to a quarterback everyone knows at some point. And it's not a shock that Milro went late third. But I think people thought he might go in the second round. But once you get into the second round, yeah, you're thinking about him as a developmental player and he ends up going to Seattle. But that's not the only athlete they took.

They moved up to take Nick and Munwry, the safety, who was in the top 20 of DJ's big board, just a crazy good athlete. And now he lands with Mike McDonald, who's a perfect coach for him to get. something out of him. They actually gave up the second round pick that they got in the D.K. Metcalf trade to move up and take Amon Worry. So that was a big statement there. And then they also get Elijah Arroyo a pass catching tight end at number 50 overall. So he's a great pass catching athlete. Emin Worry is an insane athlete. Gray Zabel, their first round pick who can play multiple positions on offense line, insane athlete. And then my favorite guy, maybe the entire draft. We did

our guys on 40s and free agents, Nick, and the two I picked were Jalen Milrow and Kyle Williams, who ended up on my Patriots, we'll get to them. And I love Milrow ending up here. I thought it was interesting. Ian Rappaport said, expect him to have a role right away. And that's what I love to hear. Because to me, I look at Jalen Milrow, and I think you start his career out. He's playing quarterback, but you also work on some Tassum Hill like packages, and he could be really exciting and a lot for the defense to handle. Yeah, the long term is to figure out if he can develop as a passer because there was one college game in particular in this past year at Alabama

where they went on the road at Oklahoma and got kind of destroyed. They got dominated, at least in terms of score, because Oklahoma just said, throw the ball, we dare you. We're just not going to let you run. So I think when he starts, he'll be a runner. But eventually, if you can develop him as a passer, he could be your long-term successor. I just found it kind of funny that they traded away Gino Smith to sign Sam Donald

to then draft Jalen Milrow. Like, it was like an ideological shift. It's different, though. Back to the line of scrimmage guy. And then they go and get Miller out. They're like, but we love athletes, so we just want to have both, you know? So it'll be a fun little wrinkle for them to start.

I would definitely expect to see him on the field in some sort of running package. Taysam Hill goal line situations or something like that, short yard situations, a little bit of misdirection, that sort of thing will be fun. And I'm glad that they had the courage to not only draft him,

but to jump up in front of the Browns who could have used Eam and Worry. and they take him before the rounds have an opportunity to take him very smart on their part. Okay, so you think that? You think that's what they're doing? It was down to that or it was down to one of the running backs

and Judkins ended up being the guy. Yeah, when they made that trade up, I was like, they're going to go get even worried because I thought it was down to two guys for the Browns at that point. Smart move out of the Seahawks front office. I love that. These picks at the top of the second round,

like so much thought goes into everything overnight and then you make that trades. and there were just like a million trades tonight. So that's where Milro goes. And I love this Seahawks draft. And yes, it would be my platonic ideal of a quarterback controversy for Darnold to kind of struggle this year a little bit. And in comes Milrow.

Chaos. Saves the day. It's probably not going to happen. All right. Those were the quarterbacks, the notable ones that end up going. You know, Will Howard from Ohio State still hasn't been taken. and there was some buzz that, you know, teams other than John Gruden actually liked him a lot. So he's another guy to keep the team now.

I mean, John Gruden and I think he said on his video that it was his number one quarterback in the entire draft. And I actually did hear some buzz that that coaching tree liked him, but they didn't like him enough to take him in the first three rounds. Let's just talk about some other interesting drafts. Let's go Texans. they take jaden higgins out of iowa state in the second round and then they take jalen noel the slot receiver big slot out of iowa state wide receiver in the third round and before the draft

kind of the comp for jaden higgins was man if everything worked out body type and kind of pre-draft profile kind of like nico collins jelan noel pre-draft profile man if everything kind of worked out big slot kind of straight, like you're going to have to have a very specific role for him, but maybe Christian Kirk. And there they are joining the actual Christian Kirk, the actual Nico Collins, and giving CJ Stroud some weapons. They went huge on offense tonight, also taking the tackle, Arante Ursary, in the second round as well. Yeah, I thought it was interesting that they were just like piling up receivers because they've kind of cycled through some guys over the last couple of years. You have the digs. You've got, you know, Tank Dell getting hurt each of the last two

years. So good on Nick Casario for having, again, the courage to just be like, screw it. Let's just keep adding receivers to this room and see how deep we can get and see which ones work and which ones don't and who can give us a long-term plan at the position because you have the quarterback so you can afford to spend on weapons for him and just try them out and see who fits and who doesn't. Overall, solid picks for them. I liked most of their draft to this point. Now, granted, we're only through three rounds, but got to give a tip of the cap to Nick Casario. I thought he had a good night. Yeah, I think they probably wanted to come out of this. draft with more offensive linemen. And Erserie was a guy who, as Jeremiah said on the broadcast,

was divisive. And he's pretty kind in the way he talks about things on the, on the broadcast. And to me, that was a guy where some teams just thought he couldn't play football. And other teams were going to draft him in the second round, that he was extremely raw and will have to be coached up. And when they traded out of the first round right after, who was it, Donovan Jackson got taken right in front of them. I thought that was like, man, all the offensive line got taken before we could get one. And so they end up getting some exciting weapons tonight. But Higgins is a really intriguing player, and so is Jalen and Noel.

I'm more excited to watch the Texans than I was yesterday. And to me, that's a success for day two of the draft. Let's talk Cowboys. Donovan Ezoraku, one of my guys, some value there in the second round, the pass rusher from Boston College. And then Ravel, the cornerback who, you know, some people thought might go in the second round, maybe even the first round. He falls to the third round.

The Cowboys actually had a draft to me other than that you had the Tyler Booker pick, which people did not expect. But the day two, they made picks where if the Eagles had made him or the Ravens had make them, everyone would have been like, oh, wow, that's Howie being Howie again. That's the Ravens doing what they do. They took really premium talent at positions they absolutely need that fell further than expected and I thought they got better today. Yeah, I thought the Ezraqa pick was interesting because he was still available. I thought the Falcons probably could have waited for somebody like that

before they traded back in the first round to take, you know, two guys on the first night of the draft. So Cowboys getting good value there. I love the Booker pick yesterday. You knew that was one of my guys going into it. And it's interesting in this draft that, you know, we talked about the secondary and we talked more about safeties than corners. It's not a great cornerback draft. But a lot of the corners that end up going later are either guys that, fell because of past injury concerns or some worry in one area or another like another team that we're going to get to later. They took a corner out of Florida State that was like, oh, well, you know, he didn't run a good 40, but the tape looks really good. So not like a perfect

complete evaluation or picture on most of these guys. And yet there's still value there. So I think the Cowboys, for where they were picking throughout the draft, didn't make any drastic moves, but picked according to need and guys available and did a very good job of balancing the two. And these are two examples of it. Yeah, and it's Savon Revell Jr. I was just making sure I always wanted to call him Sharon for some reason, but Chavonne Ravelle Jr. out of East Carolina. And yeah, the Cowboys have multiple picks, by the way. One of our people in the chat point out in the fifth, six,

and then three picks in the seventh. Maybe they're a Shador team. I think they would, I think they fit the type of team that would make sense. Obviously, there's the Jerry Jones and Dion Sanders connection. But I think at this point, he makes sense on a team that has a super, secure starting quarterback, and doesn't mind a little bit of noise or feels like they can handle that so that the Cowboys fit there. What's up, everybody?

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Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. I thought the Raiders had an interesting night just because they kept trading down over and over and over again. And it just reminded me when we had John SpyTech their new GM on and he was just saying how precious those draft picks were to him. And so you know it hurt them a little bit to draft Gino Smith. I mean, to trade the pick away for Gino Smith and they ended up picking up a ton of picks and then just trying to fill needs by taking a bunch of guys later in the draft. So they trade down and down and down and pick up a couple of picks in this class.

and in next year's class, and they end up with Jack Besh, the wide receiver out of TCU, Darien Porter, the cornerback out of Iowa State, Caleb Rogers, a guard out of Texas Tech, Charles Grant, kind of a boomer bus tackle out of William and Mary. And my point here is, like, they just feel like they have a ton of moves. And I thought they came into the day with a plan to try to really get a lot of players when they didn't have a lot of picks coming into the day, and they wound up doing that. Yeah, a successful way of trading down, acquiring more capital and spending it accordingly. Now, there's no guarantee that, you know, some of these late 3rd,

round picks end up panning out. But the idea is it's kind of throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing with sticks, especially with these two compensatory picks that they did use on Rogers and Grant. I'm just really happy that they got a receiver because they had like the smallest receiving core in the NFL last year. And every time I looked at their roster in the last couple months, I was just like, God, please add another receiver for Gino Smith outside of Jacoby Myers. So I'm glad that they picked up one there. And they are now an intriguing team to watch on day three just because they still have, what, eight more, six more picks. Mental math is hard in order to kind of wrap up this class by Thick's first class.

So very interesting to watch. Yeah, I think the Raiders are doing a good job. You can see the difference. Ian, by the way, reported that the Titans and the Raiders traded out right after Jaden Higgins got taken. So he is saying his information, if he's putting that out there, was that they were Jaden Higgins teams potentially, both the Titans and. the rate is, which would make sense in terms of their need. And it is interesting. I think you look back at this wide receiver class and Higgins's size and potential downfield ability. I think he

ended up being a little more highly thought of by NFL teams and kind of being a strong, what would he be, wide receiver five in this class, like a strong guy that was not going to end up lasting too long. So I have good news for the Patriots, awesome draft by them, but I have bad news that I'm going to start with. And that's that the Jets are a well-run organization now. Like they have, I mean, they just feel like they have adults with a vision running their team right now, being allowed to do what they want to do. I love the Armand Membu pick. I liked it better than Will Campbell. I love the Mason-Taylor pick, the tight end out of LSU in the second round. And then you mentioned Azarea Thomas, the Florida State cornerback, who to me is a perfect

Aaron Glenn type of cornerback. I just feel like the Jets are doing a really good job. And I can just see the types of guys that they want. And man, I think I just have a good feeling about what the Jets are doing. Yeah, only three picks spent through three rounds, but all three value picks that I think are proper for what they needed. Like, first pick comes off the board last night and I'm in the slack. Good job, Jets. Second pick comes off the board tonight, Mason Taylor. Good job, Jets. Aserera Thomas, good job, Jets. And that's who I'm talking about where he didn't run the fast 40, He's sudden on tape. Sudden in terms of closing speeds, especially when he drives down on the ball.

Bigger corner can get physical. They need that type of presence in that secondary. And they really needed a tight end. All those mock drafts coming into it. Tyler Warren's going to go to them for sure in the first round. Doesn't happen. Colston Loveland's going to go to them in the first round. Doesn't happen.

They end up getting another really good, really polished tight end who I think is just scratching the surface in Mason Taylor and immediately fill that need. They also now have bookend tackles, having spent two first round picks on tackles in the last two years. This is how you build a good football team. And this is a football team that has been too attracted by the shiny diamond in the corner that ends up being Fools Gold. Looking at you, Aaron Rogers. And now they've kind of reset themselves under new leadership and they're doing the right thing so far. So I just think they understood the board. They understood the board that I don't know if they liked Elijah Royo or not. Obviously, you have to accept that maybe we're not

going to get Mason Taylor or the tight end we want. Maybe they like Terrence Ferguson. who's a tight end that the Rams ended up taking in the second round, that I think the league was a little higher on than some of the consensus boards out there in the Rams. By the way, while we're on it, you know, said to Rich Eisen, Les Needs said, or was it to Daniel Jeremiah, that, yeah, they really thought the player that they wanted at 26 was probably going to be there at 46,

and then they took Terrence Ferguson. I think they just loved themselves some Terrence Ferguson. But my point about the Jets is like they understood the tackle market was totally desolate after the first round. I think that the Texans might have reached a little bit for ursary. And then it got really grim. And people just kept, you know, taking tackles,

even though, like, the drop-off is believed to be really big. Whereas the drop-off to Mason Taylor, I don't think, is as big. I think he's going to play a lot. I think Azarea Thomas is going to play a lot in the NFL. All right, we've wasted enough time. Let's just mention that I had a chance on the podcast with Dana Germia to pick my two favorite players going into the draft. and I just like watching Jalen Millrow play.

I'm not sure what kind of career he has, but I wanted to plant my flag on Kyle Williams, Washington State wide receiver. I just did not understand why he was not viewed as a top five receiver in this class. His ability to just explode in terms of his speed, but his movement ability to throttle down and up, that to me is like the type of guy,

a little like Jordan Addison. I was like, to me he's like a guy that gets taken in the first. round normally he ends up falling all the way to the top of the third round they also took your boy travion henderson uh the running back out of ohio state at the top of the second round like positional value i wasn't sure but i do i do get the idea of let's just build and get premier weapons around drake may and they just thought he was better than any wide receiver that was available there and then you look that they got the value of kyle williams in the

third round. I think that ended up being perfect for them because I think the drop-off at running back was bigger. And then you add a really athletic tackle in Jared Wilson from Georgia, who just is incredibly high upside. And we'll see if that works out. But he's kind of the high-upside pick where I wasn't thrilled with the Will Campbell pick. Well, here's a high-upside guy late in your third round. So I'm excited that they are going all offense. Good job by the Patriots. I was really hoping you would mention Wilson, because as I've told you, many times before and I will reinforce right now, there are a few guys at every combine. Sometimes there are more than others that just move differently and you can just see it from the stands. And you can tell that that

guy is going to be good at the next level. And the guy this year for me among maybe all the linemen was Jared Wilson, the center. To see them get him in the third round was massive because we knew the offensive line issues they've dealt with. You got to protect your quarterback. You got to have kind of a nerve center for your offensive line. The guy who's calling out all the blocking and everything and identifying the mic that's your center that's jared wilson that is my favorite pick out of all of them for them because like you said you know positional value at that point with henderson i'm not so certain certain unless you're trying to build a two-headed back deal you're a buck-eye guy what do you think about him what do you think i mean i think he's a he has a you know not i think

about he's got a little bit of nick chub and him in the top gear the top gear and the breakaway speed is definitely there sometimes he's a home run hitter yes he sorry i cut you off like he he never was the guy. So I guess he fits with Ramandre. Well, he wasn't the guy because he got hurt a lot at Ohio State, but when he was healthy, he was able to break off the big runs. He did it twice in the playoff. That's maybe the reason they had to bring in Quinch and Junkins because college is like the NFL now. And you just bring in players from other teams, Ole Miss, in terms of Junkins. He couldn't handle the load. So that worries me a little. He has a unique single set in that he's a home run hitter. I don't think like he has a natural, what I like, which is the natural

feel of like making people miss in small areas. Does he have that sort of vision? I don't know, but he's an incredible pass protector. Maurice Jones Drew talked about it that Eric Bienomi was sending him texts late at night of just like watch this guy in pass pro. So he's going to be a great guy. Remarkably so. And this is coming from MJD who had one of the greatest past pro highlights in the history of running backs in the NFL. Right. And so he and he's good on third downs. He's a good receiver too. So that's a great skill set to have. You have two different three downbacks and him and Remandre. It's also, though, what happens

when you keep replacing decision makers. And I know, in theory, Elliot Wolf is still there. I mean, he is still there. He's a voice that's in the room. But by all accounts, according to the reporters there, Greg Bedard, for instance, the Boston Sports Journal, that team is run by Mike Ravel,

and that team is run by, I think it's Cowden, and, you know, the two guys that Mike Vrable brought in who are his guys, and they're making decisions. So, Romandri gets a huge contract last June. I don't think Mike Vrable would have necessarily giving him that contract. There's no point in getting off that contract now. He's a useful player. And I'm excited. They went and they tried to help out my boy. I think Kyle Williams is going to be a lot better than Jalen Polk. Ryan in the chat says I also love the Patriots

drafts drafts drafts. Greg can hate on Campbell all he wants. The draft has been great. Oh yeah, the Patriots are going to win draft grades this year. And I love that. I hope it all works out. I don't put a lot into draft grades. But I do, I like the thought process behind it going all. offense. You know another year where they won a lot of draft grades? I believe it was 2019 the year after they won that Super Bowl ended up being like one of the worst drafts of all time. Let's talk about the Steelers tonight. And this is a bigger trend. George Pickens still on the team. This is true of a lot of the veterans out there. If they're going to be traded, it's going to be on day three or it's going to be after the draft because no one's been traded. Patrick Ramsey's still

on, I mean, Jalen Ramsey's still on the Dolphins. Shout out to Patrick Ramsey, class of Tulane 2002. Dyer Alexander, he's still on the Packers. Kirk Cousins is still on the Falcons and Dallas Goddard's still on the Eagles. But while Pickens is still there, and I'm not sure because we saw a report that they're kind of open for business on him, it really sounds like after they passed on Shadur Sanders a number of times tonight, that they are confident it's going be Aaron Rogers. This is what Art Rooney said on Steelers Nation Radio. We're getting the same signals that we've been getting recently. He does not want, he does want to come here. So I do think we may get word soon. He also said, by the way, if we took a QB, it would not be someone

we would want to play right away. It would be a developmental QB. Yeah. At this point. Right. But he said that in the middle of the second round. But yeah, he sort of gave that away. That's the owner of the team. And maybe that means Rogers was waiting to make sure the draft didn't get funky that they didn't take, like Sheter in the first round. He didn't want to deal with that. Who knows? They sound confident he's joining the team. I mean, you've waited long enough. You better be. You've kind of backed yourself into a corner where your entire stock, your entire wagon is hitched to Aaron Rogers' 41-year-old horse. But I mean, okay, all right, that solves one of the issues. I mean, they don't have a lot of picks to work with. They've made two picks so far. And I like

both of their picks. Derek Harmon, when they drafted him, I was like, oh, sweet. Now Kame Hayward can actually like seriously entertain retiring in the near future if he wants to instead of just being the guy who's like, yeah, I'll continue playing because I'm still good and you don't have any other options here. And then Caleb Johnson, the running back, they add a bruiser of a back that kind of fits their mold. They let Naji go and they replace him with him. So that's fine. But this is all quarterback driven, of course. And after passing on quarterbacks, you know, twice so far and not moving up to get one, you're right. It is Darren Rogers, and I hope it goes better for them than it did for the Jets. That's all I'll say.

It can't go much worse, but I'm not overly optimistic. We'll see. Caleb Johnson is such a predictable Steelers pick that they just took like the best straight line downhill running back from the Big Ten that was available at 83. He's a bit of a home run hitter. Maybe not my flavor. Again, maybe I have a certain type where he's not making you miss in in a small area. But in a perfect world, he would be, I mean, he's not Najee Harris either in terms of like breaking tackles, but he certainly could be more of a home run hitter and a guy you use to pick up yards and in short yardage.

Let's just throw out some other picks that just like stuck out to us as we wrap this thing up. And I got a bunch and we'll just go back and forth. Like Will Johnson, the Michigan cornerback, ends up falling to the Cardinals in the middle of the second round. apparently it was medical concerns his knee and maybe not great tape in his last year at Michigan but really sounds like it was more like his knee that I love that though in terms of if you're going to take a risk on an injured guy middle of the second round for a guy who could

have been CB1 in this class yeah you do it later you do it when the risk is less when when the potential for blowing a high value pick is less and you hope that he can get healthy and get back to who he was before and then suddenly he looked like a genius it's as simple as that so he was one of the best Michigan corners in recent years. Like, Mikey Sanders still ends up with Washington last year, and I think Will Johnson was a better corner than him. So good for them. We'll see if it pans out. You know, it's all health-driven and it makes a ton of sense. That's, I mean, this is why we do the Combine in Indy, because the hospitals are all right there. And the medical is the

most important thing that they can get. Obviously, that cost some concern. But, you know, at that point in the second round, you take that risk. You know what the draft is partly about for me after going through, like, the content cycle for so many years is I can see what we're going to be talking about now for the next four months, because we don't have regular season football for a while here. It's not the worst thing. No, it's good. We could all use a little bit of a breather.

But the Cardinals defense is something that I'm going to talk too much about. And I don't want to get off that take because my first instinct is right. The amount of people that are extremely talented that they have added to this defense, which has already schemed up great, is awesome. I mean, you add Josh Sweat, you add Callais Campbell, you bring back some injured players in terms of BJ O'Giolari, you have Baron Browning, and then you add what to me was the most talented defensive tackle in this class in Walter Nolan in the first round.

And then one of the most talented cornerbacks in the class in Will Johnson is just like, this is a go-time season for the Cardinals. I'm excited, and I have a feeling I won't be the only. one with that. Yeah, the only downside to that is we'll have to say goodbye to the best nickname ever coined on NFL Daily, which is the search bar because you're not going to need to look up not a long history. We're not to one year on NFL Daily, but I agree. I'm going to talk about that in the history of NFL Daily. Let's just give it its praise. I agree. Dalvin Tomlinson, by the way, I was like, I know I'm forgetting one kind of interesting free agent they added. Dalvin Tomlinson

is an Arizona cardo. Luther Burden is a Carolina Panther, you know, going into this season. and thought maybe was the top wide receiver prospect, along with Temeck, Tett McMillan. And he ends up with the Chicago Bears. I misspoke there. I was thinking how he was part of the Bryce Young trade. And so the Bears end up adding another weapon. I didn't necessarily see them taking a wide receiver so high,

but they wind up taking Luther Burden to add to Colston Lovell and their titan that they took in the first round. This is a classic case of two things. a team building on big-time moves that maybe didn't quite produce as much as they wanted to, you know, with the, you know, having DJ more on the roster, adding Roma Dunzei, you get Caleb Williams. But it's also a new regime coming in and putting their mark on the personnel and on the weapons and trying to improve the situation around a quarterback whose franchise depends on his, you know, growth and his production. So Luther Burden was a player who was held back by the fact

that they didn't have great quarterback play in Missou. And like, he's a heck of an athlete. a heck of a player. And he was a guy that was maybe going to be a first round pick, didn't end up being a first round pick. So it's good value for them. I'm just so excited to see what this passing game looks like with Ben Johnson as their coach now because their 12 personnel is going to be crazy. You had burden to that receiving court. You have another option there. You can do a number of different things. The only thing that they missed out on so far is they didn't add a running back yet. Because I thought at one point, I thought maybe they'd be in line for Henderson and then the Patriots took them before the Bears came up to pick. So perhaps that's something that they

attack in day three, but I still like their makeup. I still like that's why you roll with the punches. I heard that they, you know, there were some talk that Trayvion Henderson wouldn't, would it was going to be in the mix for them in the first round or that if the board fell funny, they would actually trade back and take Henderson. And yeah, the Bears fans are so optimistic. I laugh. I've seen it a lot in the chat. A lot of Bear Down, Dynasty incoming, that they had the best draft of any team.

And every year, and you could see it with, you could see it with even the presenters that were, you know, former Bears, you know, getting the Packers crowd all riled up. Every year, Bears fans are convinced that their team is awesome and that anyone that ever even doubts it, even just a little bit, are traitors and insane and stupid, despite the fact that they've had like a ton of futility. Like, generally it's just been futility.

But it never diminishes the optimism or total confidence. And I got to admit, I got to admit Bears fans, I'm kind of with you on it this year, though. I'm kind of with you on this year. I'm usually not, but I'm with you this year. Yeah, I feel better about them now that I have in previous years. My favorite thing, though, in the Bears cycle, and I've watched this a lot in Cleveland, is extreme optimism, followed by disappointing results, followed by assigning blame to one scapegoat. And I have to give a tip of the cap real quick to one of the Bears fans in the chat.

Mo designs things because he's a friend of the Gridiron Pod. He's also a friend of mine Twitch stream. So thanks for coming in here, Mo. And good luck. I wish you the best, but I do know that it's optimism season right now. remind yourself of that. Well, it's just the total, it's just the blind confidence that I don't get

that the past precedent, you know, wouldn't affect you at all. By the way, they had a couple other picks in round two. Ozzie Trapilo was a tackle from Boston College. Went a little earlier than expected. Look, Ben Johnson's going to have a conviction on offensive linemen, and the Lions have certainly had a good history of that. So we'll see.

Shamar Turner, defensive tackle from Texas A&M. So two guys that they had a vision for, probably went a little earlier than expected, but they see their players. We'll see how those end up working out. I like the 49ers pick of Alfred Collins. There was a lot of run-stopping defensive tackles. That was a big time of need for them. And I just thought they got a good player there in the second round.

The Bucks are at a point where I just love all their picks. Benjamin Morrison, the Notre Dame cornerback, who's coming off a hip injury, but has a lot of talent. his father played with Todd Bowles. A lot of times these connections, you know, are what makes it happen. So the bucks, I think, get another great value. And then I thought it was interesting that the Broncos ended up, you know, not taking a running back in the first class, in the first round.

And then they end up getting R.J. Harvey in round two. Any thoughts on that? Because if we're looking at big fantasy winners, R.J. Harvey has a clear path to a lot of touches. Like, I, like for fantasy, he might be a more valuable player than let's say Trayvion Henderson, uh, who got taken by the Patriots higher up. Yeah. And they, I mean, this is a backfield that was relying heavily on Jal McLaughlin last year and Audra Gestime in true yardage situations and all love for Audrey Gestimate, but he's kind of a plotting bigger back. So getting a guy like, like RJ Harvey, who I think, you know, can be a bit of a home run

hitter at times. I just think about this sizzle reel that they put, the UCF put out of him just like taking off down the sideline. I'm like, man, I would love to see that, you know, in the orange crush uniforms for the Broncos this coming season. But suddenly, they're really deep in that back. If you look at that depth chart, they got a number of different options there. I agree that I thought that they were going to go running back earlier. I thought Henderson was definitely going to be an option for them. I remember all the Broncos media assembled around his podium in Indianapolis and thinking, okay, this is, this makes a lot of sense.

They don't end up going there, but it all kind of plays out and makes more sense when they get him. I think they've handled the draft largely well. They got, you know, Jaday Barron, who's the best corner in this draft. and they end up getting Harvey in the second round. So no reaches and filling needs. And it's just so nice when you can do that when you know that your quarterback situation is solved and we don't have to talk about that with that team.

Harvey's such a unique runner. If you haven't had a chance to watch him, I recommend doing so. He's so patient to the point of like, is he ever going to go? And then he goes. But he's like a small Darren Sproles type. Great on receiving.

You could see why Sean Payton would like him. But just a very unique player. I think people are going to enjoy watching even if he's not going to be a guy that, like, totally carries the load. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game

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taking Tileak Williams, the massive defensive tackle from Ohio State in the first round, and then taking Georgia Garvey. Tate Ratledge in the second round. The Georgia Guards actually went ahead of Jared Wilson, their center, surprisingly. And then doing what they've done in recent drafts, which is just finding a guy that they loved

and they didn't care what the value is and just giving up a ton of picks for him. Nick, like, they gave up three third round picks to draft Isaac Tesla, the wide receiver from Arkansas, who just tested out of the gym, like one of the best testing numbers ever at wide receiver.

receiver at Arkansas and has like a sweet mullet. But they gave up their hundred and second pick to move up 30 spots and then two future third round picks. So it's just crazy. Like you can't get a player. You can't get a team, Nick, to like give up a third round pick for Jaya Alexander or like a halfway or even a veteran on a better kind of like, oh no, we would never give up a fourth or fifth round pick for a decent veteran. And then you get into the draft and like, we'll give up three third round picks for Isaac Testament. And he might turn out to be great. My point is just anyone that's available at pick 70,

you don't know if they're going to be great. So giving up three third round picks is a little wild. They're feeling themselves. There's the financial component to it, though, because you don't give up that pick for a guy on a bigger contract, right? They also gave up a compensatory pick that they got from losing Aaron Glenn to the Jets.

So it makes more sense because they realize, all right, that's back into the third round. The future picks are the ones that probably rub lines or fans the wrong way. But Greg, with all that said, they have my favorite class so far. They've only made three picks, but all three of them are guys that I love, and I'm going to go back to Indy. I'm going to go back to watching guys in the field.

Another guy that was one of my favorites, Tate Ratledge. You love him for his sweet hair. You love him for his style. He's kind of like a Kenny Powers of guards in the NFL now, and he was in college. And you love how he positions his body, even though he's not the biggest guard. He's a guy that is really good at angling himself to win blocks. But Tylic Williams, I think, is going to be a better pro than he was in college, and he was already pretty damn good at Ohio State. Love Ratledge.

And I loved Isaac as well. I think that that's another player who really jumped. off the field from me and Andy. You go back and watch his tape. I'm all on board with Brad Holmes and what he's done so far. One of my favorite classes, if not my favorite, despite only being three picks so far. Well, it's very Detroit Lions. It's just risky. They gave up, I think it was multiple third round picks last year to move up in the fourth round to take a guard. Are you familiar? Could you name that guard? I'll give you like, actually, we're not allowed to do that, but can you name that guard? Didn't have much of an impact as a rookie. It was more of a

developmental guy. We'll see. It's Giovanni Manu. Giovanni Manu. So we'll see. Maybe Giovanni Manu will work out in a long run. But like they pick guys that they love and they absolutely go for them. Just a couple other picks I liked. The big cornerback, Trey Amos, going to the commanders. We're going to break down all the team's drafts next week going through each and every team. We'll also do a winners and losers show that's going to go up on Monday morning. So this is just supposed to be a quick hitter. The Colts taking another Ohio State guy, J. to JT to Maloahua, like that pick.

The Panthers are kind of team traits, like taking big swings on high ceiling guys, taking the defenders, Nick Scorton and Princely, Uman Malayan, hadn't said that name out loud, but some potentially high upside pass rushers so that that was interesting. And then I thought it was interesting. Mike Green, who a lot of people had mocked in the top 20 or so,

ends up going all the way to 59, the Marshall pass rusher, goes to the Ravens at 59, two sexual assault allegations, one before college, one at college, that's why he ended up at Marshall. And it's interesting, the NFL almost seemed to take those allegations more seriously than the people doing the mock drafts and the consensus boards, because everyone seemed to think it wasn't going to end up costing him, but some reports that he didn't handle some questions throughout the process well. So for a second, I thought we were getting progress from the NFL, and maybe him falling

this far was like a little bit of progress. But I found it interesting that the Ravens of all teams took him because John Harbaugh, you know, was the guy saying we have a no-tolerance policy on domestic violence when he was talking about Deshaun Watson. And now we have Mike Green and we have Justin Tucker on their roster. So we'll see how that works out, but certainly a talented player.

that definitely raised an eyebrow it's always kind of a tough one because you think about position and value of player but are you willing to deal with I guess the baggage or whatever else that you might describe that as like any of the concerns

that definitely made me scratch my head but I would like to go back to JTT real quick because I'll tell you what this is the guy who early on in his career at Ohio State looked like he was going to fall in the mold of the Bosa brothers when it came to edge rushing talents

and then never really took the next step as he was there as part of that defense, which ended up being very good last season. But I wonder if maybe all he needed is somebody like Loua and Rumo to unleash him at the NFL level. I thought that the way that people have graded a lot of the players on that side

of the ball for Ohio State have been interesting to me. Like the projections for Jack Sawyer had been all over the place and he's still out there now, which is not surprising to me. But JTT going at 45th overall almost felt a little early.

And then in other times I thought a couple years ago, I would have thought that was too late. So I'm very intrigued to see how his career pans out with Indianapolis under Lou. I talked to a few people that loved him, that thought he was going to be a better NFL player, that he wasn't going to go in the first round, but that you can see him playing a very specific role

in playing a lot of years and being in the, you know, being a guy, you need those guys. You need seven, eight guys in your front and that he can have an absolute game record type force player that's going to last a while in the NFL and the Colts take them. They love athletic freaks. They love guys. They love taking linemen as well.

Look, yeah, it's funny. You mentioned Jack Sawyer. Like, in another draft, Jack Sawyer falling this far would be a topic during day three. But I have a feeling it's going to be all Shudor Sanders all the time until he goes off the board. And I don't know, Damien Harris, a former Patriot had some comments. I think it was for CBS about that. that teams are almost trying to teach Shudur and the Sanders a little bit of a lesson, like a family that kind of shook up college football

and is almost symbolic of the changes in college football. And I think multiple things can be true. I think it's not like all the teams started talking and agreed to not take him, but I think there can be an aspect of that, an aspect of fear and not wanting to deal with the media side of it all, and certainly an aspect of that. his talent was never really beyond like a second round level anyways and there really aren't

that many teams looking for quarterbacks right now. And so it's all those things combined. But I think there is something to it that they probably turn off some teams. And it's probably unfair that Shadur is kind of getting lumped in with that. Yeah, definitely. I totally agree with that. But the one thing to kind of tie a bow on all of it since we started with it and we'll wrap with is I keep thinking back to when we left Indy and neither him nor Cam Ward worked out and yet for some reason by the end of that week there was a clear gap between the two

like a pretty wide gap and despite not being on the field usually it happens on the field and it didn't and it made me think what happened in those meeting rooms what happened with those teams again I think we will find out at some point but it won't be for a while and until then we're going to have to unfortunately watch him continue to, you know, deal with this what is now an excruciating slide. And he will eventually be on a team

and he'll have his opportunity to make his career in the NFL. But of course, the spotlight is extremely bright because of his family name. And it's unfortunate for a kid who just wants to live out his NFL dream for sure. But we'll watch it play out. My theory, too, is that's the week where all the reporters start talking to the NFL teams more at night and realize what they actually think. And I didn't get a chance to really break down their tape. you know, until after the combine. And it's like, yeah, Cam Ward, to me, looks exactly like I would want a top 10 pick to look like.

I keep using the Cutler comp. It reminds me a little bit of FARV. To me, if he was in last year's draft, like, if Michael Pennix and J.J. McCarthy were in this class, I think I would take Cam Ward number one overall over those two personally. Like, that's the level of prospect, where Shudur Sanders was like, eh, like Andy Dalton with swag was my comp. And Andy Dalton doesn't get taken in the first round. And then maybe the reason it's not happening in rounds two and three is everything else we're talking about.

We will have plenty to talk about on Sunday night show. Actually, we'll be putting it up Monday morning. That's going to be winners and losers. It was great to have you back in the chair, Nick. Appreciate you. Yeah, it was great to be here. I just want to extend much thanks to you for the message that you closed the mock draft show with. That was really special to me and my family.

And, you know, regarding the passing of my dad, and, you know, this was always our thing. You know, as kids, I used to spend Saturday and Sunday watching it with him. And as the chaos of the Brown supposedly in line to take Trayvon Henderson and then taking Jenkins, all I wanted to do was call my dad. And obviously, I can't do that now, but the support of people like you has made this so much easier to bear. So thank you so much for that. I appreciate you. It's funny you mentioned that, because I do think the draft, because it's not like,

a game or whatever. There is something about like, you know, my son Walker did a bunch of mock drafts and he was more excited for this draft than any other. He was actually over at a friend's house, but he wanted me to text the dad that was over there every time the Texans were up and he's going absolutely nuts. Then he's back over here. And it's just a fun thing to share. Obviously football, draft, everything. So yeah, good man, Greg shook. And appreciate you, buddy. We will be back as I was saying on Monday morning, we'll be doing winners and losers. We're going to wrap this whole thing up in a nice bow.

Appreciate everyone that was in the YouTube chat live. You can obviously check us out on video each and every time. But, man, we will be in your ears all next week. We are just getting going the 2025 draft. Look, when I'm this far back in on the Patriots, Drake, May, Kyle Williams, football's back. I'm Marcus Grant. And I'm Michael Florio, and together we host the NFL fantasy football podcast.

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