NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2025 NFL Week 11 Late and Primetime Games Preview

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Jourdan Rodrigue and Patrick Claybon to preview the late game window and primetime Week 11 action from around the NFL starting with the Seahawks at the Rams (01:45) follow...ed by Chiefs at Broncos (11:25), Lions at Eagles on Sunday Night Football (17:21), 49ers at Cardinals (27:45), Ravens at Browns (35:00) and Cowboys at Raiders on Monday Night Football (40:24).  Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 that we can talk about Seahawks, Rams. and Eagles, lions, and also the day that the penny stopped going into, you know, being produced in this United States of America. This was it. This was the last day that a penny will ever be made. I've been on that corner for a while, actually. I was in something called Model Congress. I'm a cool guy.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And that was my bill, actually, back in the mid-90s, was to abolish the penny back then. And it finally happened. Was that the news of the day? That was some news. Yeah, that's unfortunate. I think it's a relic of the past, but it's one that I'm fine. It just seemed like a waste. What? What children find in parking lots?
Starting point is 00:02:39 It just seemed like a waste. But it was a terrible strategy to have as a bill in a exercise like that because no one cared. Everyone's like, yeah, sure, whatever. Do you guys ever flatten them like at the grain canyon? Put it through like the flattener and then have a memento from the grain canyon? It's cool. And I think the reason... Did you tell them to go about that?
Starting point is 00:03:00 I will. Ultimately, you know, you train kids on model Congress and debate because it's better to do that than to teach them revolutionary history. Then they might actually be able to change the world that they live in. See part one with Patrick Hamilton version two. We're actually going to have a special extra pod next week, which is a full production of Patrick's Hamilton Pod theater. You're ready on the censors for that one.
Starting point is 00:03:28 a great game in the NFC West. The Seattle Seahawks coming in to get revenge, taking on the Los Angeles Rams, who are three-point favorites. The over under is 48 and a half. It is Joe Davis and G. Reg on the call. If you're familiar with my MVP conversation, we have multiple players in this game with positive scores. A couple of them don't play quarterback Greg Rosenthal. Wow. How does this one play out the second time around. I don't know. I wonder, you know, does it, they get less points, though, because it's a 405 Eastern game? You get the standard amount of points.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Like the national audience is watching Broncos Chiefs. Time-wise, but this is a contender game. This is reference to the conversation. Yes. The conversation where I am tracking my own version of MPP scoring using judgment from Jordan, Steve, and Greg. Well, Sam Dardle and Stafford were our top two picks. when we gave out the awards for half-season MVP.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And then certainly Jackson Smith and Jigba has made a strong case. You believe that Pooka's in the mix or something? I think Puka does exist within the conversation. It has had a positive score last week as well. And I did ask, Greg, if you were providing a positive score to Sam Darnel last week. Or did those points go? After I went back and rewatch that game, I'm giving him a positives. So Darnold has the positive score and JSN, who continues to lead the league, has his positive.
Starting point is 00:05:03 So we've obviously talked about all the things that have come out of the heavy personnel and throwing out of heavy personnel and everything. With both teams. With both of these teams. And so it's going to be interesting to see how the defense has responded. And I think this matchup in particular, since they will know, that's how they're winning. And this is how we're winning. And this is how we stop it. It'll be really interesting for them.
Starting point is 00:05:26 how are they going to combat it and what the rest of the league does? Because I do think when we look back on this season, this is going to be kind of the dominant storyline. Not just this game, but these types of offenses. Like I think about that year when it was New England with the one word play call playing super fast in Aaron Hernandez. And I think of the year where it's Jared Goff and Vic Fangio. You know, and Fangio.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I also think of the year, you know, with that. incredible Monday night game, Chiefs, you know, and Jared Guff, all that, like, this trend and these two teams are kind of at the very forefront of it. And they have defenses, which on paper should be able to at least give problems to the offenses. Yes. And I'm so glad that you brought that up because, first of all, this, this is a game of poetic proportion, honestly, because it has that potential, whether or not it meets it, fine, but we are going to learn things about offense and about defense. from this game that will have a ripple effect across the league, whether we see it immediately or not. We just will. The caliber and quality of the entire team that Mike McDonald has built up in Seattle,
Starting point is 00:06:40 including finding a coordinator who is able to run almost the inverse of what his defense is good at defending. And also what Sean McVeigh and Chris Shula and company have built in Los Angeles on offensive defense. again, almost inverses of each other, but aligned by the same principles. And I think that Seattle is perfectly built to defend both of the personnel groupings that the Rams prefer to use. That's 11 personnel, three receivers, one tight end, and 13 personnel, which is three tight ends, one receiver. And part of this is because they have a player who I think is one of the most important players of this game, who has had some learning moments this year, but when he's been healthy
Starting point is 00:07:28 and returned from the early season injury, Nick Ammon Worry is an absolute hinge player for this game. If you'll indulge me. Yes, always. The Rams want to make everything look the same pre-snap out of both 11 personnel and 13 personnel,
Starting point is 00:07:44 and they want you to have to guess whether it's run or pass, no matter whether they're in the lighter personnel or the heavier personnel. So that freezes you as a defense. If you want to adjust to play heavier, in the back seven on defense, they are typically athletic enough
Starting point is 00:07:58 in either of those preferred personnel to run past you. And if you want to go lighter nickel to get more speed on the field against the lighter speed personnel, they can run the ball out of 11 personnel or they can sub in to 13 to get bigger against you.
Starting point is 00:08:14 So Nick and Warre becomes a key figure, even as a rookie safety, who is a perfect match for this defense because you can leave them in as a third safety, a second inside linebacker or a match slot defender, especially against 13 personnel passing. He's big enough to defend the run.
Starting point is 00:08:31 He's fast enough to cover and big enough to cover tight ends, but fast enough to also cover smaller, faster receivers. And this is, first of all, in part why Seattle keeps him on the field for almost every snap since he returned from injury, because he is their queen chess piece on the field who allows them to be just as multiple as the offense that they are seeing on the other side. Now, it also commands the rest of the defense to play up to their potential,
Starting point is 00:08:59 which is significant, perhaps the best in the league right now. In terms of the way I'm viewing this, because throwing out a heavy personnel in comparing the two teams, the Rams will still be able to run. I don't trust the Seahawks run game at this point, and I'm not exactly sure that Seattle does here. And like the way that this kind of trend will be emulated around the league, like you don't have the pieces to do it at this level where there's not the way that
Starting point is 00:09:31 Donald's playing and the way J.S.N. is playing and the way Stafford's playing with Devante right now, especially in the red zone and what Pooka could do. There's ways you can try to go out there and do similar stuff. But I think what makes this game so interesting is the different ways that the best pieces play despite the way because I think the Rams could like Zig at the Zag opportunity here
Starting point is 00:09:55 and it's like oh throwing out heavy personnel it's going to be a whole lot of Blake quorum as well as Karen in this game where Seattle will be out of that it's putting a lot of pressure on saying I think last week might have been a turning point for the Seahaw running game
Starting point is 00:10:08 we'll see it wasn't an easy matchup the Cardinals are a top 10 defense in terms of DVOA and they had a 13 play drive and towards the end of that game that was I mean it was incredible They just didn't let Sam Darnold pass the ball. It was the highest run-pass ratio of any team in any game all season.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Now, that was because of the score. But the crazy thing is they were successful throughout the course of the game. It was easily their best running performance of the year. And so can that continue against a defense, which is really improved in terms of stopping the run? You're right that that's like kind of the one weakness of these teams for the most part this season has been the running game. But the Seahawks will be without, was it, is it Jake Sundell? they're center. And that's a big deal for them who's going to miss like two to three weeks. So Oluwatimmy comes in and he had some snap problems last week with Darnold.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And so that's, you know, got to be tricky for them. I think on the other side, it's just how much can the Seahawks speed up Matthew Stafford? Because his numbers against pressure this year are not great. He is just getting rid of the ball so quickly because he's preserving himself. And this is a defense that has six different players between. 23 and 36 pressures. It's like you don't know where the pressure is going to come from. And if they can just dominate that matchup, Seattle, I think they win this game.
Starting point is 00:11:26 They are the number one team in DVOA by a decent amount, but the Rams are number two. So they are the best two teams, I believe, just eye test-wise, and the numbers will tell you right now. I'm so excited for this game. I'm excited that Greg Olson's on the call because we're all going to learn something out of this game as well. This is also, we can't forget, Sam Donald really wants. and has worked for a better passing performance against this almost exact defensive front because the last time that Sam Darnold on a different team
Starting point is 00:11:56 played this almost exact defensive front now with the addition of Puna Ford to help them stop the run, they got to him and were relentless and he probably had one of his worst games and then was chased by that narrative all season. Sins has more than shaken off that negative narrative that was attached to him after that game. But he really wants, I think he really wants to go out and show his work.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I think this is the most fun offense to come out of the QBX system in a while. I'm so excited for this game. This is my pick. I'm the number one pick. And I am so glad it worked out this way. This is absolutely my pick. I feel like that could be a drop. I'm the number one pick.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Now these two teams do face off again in Seattle on Thursday night football. in week 16. So this is going to, these two games, I think, will really help tell the story, not just of the MVP conversation, but of potentially
Starting point is 00:12:56 the number one seed in the NFC. Yeah. San Clemente High School, the Triton, Sam Darnold, coming back down from California. Love that for him. Of course, we played his college football as well. Looking forward to that one,
Starting point is 00:13:07 but we're also looking forward to the Kansas City Chiefs, Andy Reed, off the bye, Jordan Rodriguez. It is a thing that is frequently discussed. They are three and a half point favorites. at the Denver Broncos, who will hope to look better on offense. 43 and a half is the over and under.
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's Jim and Tony and Tracy. The CBS Uno team, is it time for the Broncos to have their big offensive output against the good Chiefs defense? I just haven't seen enough consistency from the Broncos offense over the course of the entire season to fully buy it. And it's not just Andy Reid coming off a buy. It's Steve Spagnolo coming off of a buy.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I mean, I don't want to draw that straw. Yeah, I think it's 9 and 3 as a coach of the Chiefs. And then it was really crazy with Philadelphia. I think it was 11 and 1, something like that. So you added it all. But 9 and 3 is a normal sample size of what Andy Reid has done every season. It might be lower than his average winning percentage. I do want to see what they come out with.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I'm disappointed that they didn't trade for Brees Hall. The reporting from Rich Samini was that they offered a fourth. So they wanted him. and the Jets, to their credit, I think, held firm for a three. Like, why trade Brees Hall at all, but definitely why, you know, without getting a better draft pick? And I think they lack a little bit of explosion. They haven't said the chiefs if Josh Simmons is going to start at left tackle.
Starting point is 00:14:34 He returned to the team during the buy week. So I would anticipate that he would be playing. And again, we're not in must-win territory, certainly not for the chief. But I think if you want to win the division, they probably have to win this game. Because if they didn't, they'd be three back of the Broncos with, what, seven to play. And then they'd also have three division losses. There's another tiebreaker you're already going to lose. You're not going to win the team tiebreaker.
Starting point is 00:15:04 You've already lost to the Chargers. So at best, you're splitting there. This would be a loss where at best you're splitting with the Broncos. You'd be two and four in the AFC. At some point, the numbers just really start to hurt. and you're just aiming, moving forward for like a seven seed, this is the type of game where you would expect the best out of the chief. That is what I expect to see.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And good news for them. Simmons did practice and was a full participant on Wednesday. So there is that. But there's also a chance for this Broncos team, which has not just been like inconsistent total game. It's been inconsistent within plays. But within that inconsistency, there is the capacity to get yards and have completions and score touchdown.
Starting point is 00:15:45 where if you're one of those I'm sick of the Chiefs folks like Greg just drew the path for you. The Broncos could go a huge way to fixing that issue right here in week 11. And if you don't want everyone to be so hard
Starting point is 00:16:01 on Bo Nicks and everyone's like, oh, everyone, you know, the Broncos fans, well stop booing the hell out of them, you know, unless they're booing Sean Payton and the play calling, I don't know who they're doing. They're just booing because they like to do it. It's the only way to do it. Yeah. You guys, you guys are mentioned Josh Simmons returning. What a
Starting point is 00:16:17 front to do that against right? Nick Panetta. I was reacting to a Knicks throw. Yeah, we're watching Oh, I didn't even turn to the left here. Oh, oh, here we go. Yeah, please check us out. Like, subscribe. Tough, tough look on a screen. On YouTube. You know, the weather was rough that night against the Broncos. I mean, against the Raiders. Sort of blocked that game from my memory. We got
Starting point is 00:16:39 we got some real Al Michaels nihilism in that game. No, I mean, I was going to say no comment, but why do I need to say no comment? Al's been great, but I want more energy out of that booth. I love when he goes full on Dark Al, you know? He needs to get a little more energy from the guy next to him. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Well, he could be inspired. They could be inspired. I'm trying to get it back to the Broncos front somehow. No, it's one of the best defenses still with or without Patrick Sturtain on the, on the field. one of the best defenses in football, and it starts up front with Nick Bonito and Jonathan Cooper and how much they're pressuring the quarterback. They're affecting the quarterback at both within the top five
Starting point is 00:17:24 of pressure rates in the NFL right now. It is just tough to get anything done against them. This is a lot of potential for uncomfortable Patrick Mahomes, who still makes magic happen, even despite some of that discomfort. It would so help the Chiefs if they could just run the ball and take some of the teeth out of that front. Green Law is really. helped their defense.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So they lose Sertan, but Greenlaw coming back from his injury. He's looked fantastic. I guess I wasn't just counting on that, considering the scope of how serious that injury was. And we've talked about like the chiefs are back. We've said that a lot. And I think it's true.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I think it was a matchup thing against the bills. Well, this is a great showcase to prove it. It's not going to get any harder than playing in Denver. But I think the bills put some stuff on tape where personnel wise, the Broncos can do every bit. what Buffalo did to that Bill's offense, I mean to the Chief's offense and crowd the line of scrimment.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Keep the short and quick stuff away from Mahomes and force the Chiefs to show those receivers getting open deep. That market locally is on Chris Jones watch. Now, I'm not participating. I'm just noticing that's a part of that conversation in that market. That he's not playing well enough?
Starting point is 00:18:37 Just some people, just asking some questions about his play and what, you know. I feel like he was playing well. before the buy at least. I mean, I'm not going to be the person who is one of the best defensive tackles that we've seen. There were 10 other people on the field when Trevor Lawrence was laying on the ground. I'm just noticing.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm just noticing the conversation. That's all. And that's what we do. We take note of discussions that are being had as they pertain to football. It's time for the Sunday drive presented by Toyota. Let's go places. The Detroit Lions on Sunday night football with their new exciting play caller taking on the Philadelphia Eagles fresh off of the win on Monday night football.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It is the birds by two and a half. Mike Torrico and Chris Collinsworth on the call, Greg, there's been, I'll leave you to one particular discussion that I know you're excited to have. Okay. But Dan Campbell likes calling football plays. This defense significantly better than the one he called plays against last week. That's true. It'll be a much bigger test.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I think he set himself up. It was like throwing an alley-oop off the backboard to himself. And he delivered. And now you've got to play a defense with a drastically improved four-man pass rush where they don't have to send pressure. So that's more of what Vic Van Geo wants to do. They might even get Jacori and Bennett. I don't know how big of a factor that will be,
Starting point is 00:20:03 but will they play him over Adori Jackson? Jair Alexander retired since we last talked. And I don't think we detailed that on the show at any point. And that's too bad for the Eagles and for Jair, who just wasn't feeling it. And I think he surprised the Eagles, according to Nick Siriani. But this is such a, like a fascinating matchup because they're obviously both Super Bowl contenders. There have been two of the best teams in the NFC now for a couple years in row. It's six and three versus seven and two.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And yet, I think compared to last year, they're both still searching for like that. mythical, like, peak performance, and it's going to be tough to reach it. Nick Siriani, especially on offense, is getting a little tired with the questions that are coming up about his star receiver. This is the third time after a victory where AJ either on social media or in this case on livestream has sort of voiced his displeasure. Is that at all becoming a distraction? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Again, you can only go from your interactions with everybody and the way they go about their work on a daily basis that you guys don't be able that you guys aren't able to see but you know no it's business as usual. When you say it was kind of business as usual with AJ, I mean his latest comments made it seem like it's not business as usual. Like how do you kind of reconcile that with him? Yeah, guys, I'm, I'm close to being done answering these questions with this. The comments that he's referring to were during a November 11th, that's two,
Starting point is 00:21:40 Tuesday night, Twitch live stream with streamer Janky Rondo. I love that USA Today is just, you know, quoting the streamer Janky Rondo. Where he asked, like, is everything good to AJ? AJ was on the stream. He said, no, where you been? It's a bleep show. You know, are you paying attention? The more concerning part for me, Patrick, and you've got your face covered,
Starting point is 00:22:05 you have frustrations. I was earlier in the live stream. said everyone that owns him in fantasy should cut him. And I just want to say, don't listen to A.J. Brown's fantasy advice. What is frustrating you about this, Patrick? A year ago.
Starting point is 00:22:23 They asked A.J. Brown what the Eagles needed to work on. Yeah. And he said passing. And since then, everything A.J. Brown has said or done, even on the sideline where he's holding a book has become
Starting point is 00:22:38 some sort of news that's Worthy of discussion. The Philadelphia Eagles, in case people don't remember, won the Super Bowl. They blew out the Kansas City Chiefs who were trying to win multiple Super Bowls in a row, including one against them, and they blew them out. That was so long ago, Patrick. Jalen Hurts was on the sideline begging Nick Siriani to go in and score more points against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:23:04 There was a fourth and six on Monday night football with 33 seconds ago. and Nick Siriana inexplicably decided to throw the ball. Yeah. And we're talking about A.J. Brown on a stream with janky. What are we doing as a society? This is so dumb and vapid and empty. It does not matter. They won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:23:29 We're talking about distractions. Hoisting a trophy is apparently a distraction. He doesn't make any sense. Well, just for clarity, I think he goes more by Rondo. not janky but the full name janky rondo was this a reference
Starting point is 00:23:46 for the late stage Celtics Rondo I hope not because he was never janky my only take from all of this is that that moment
Starting point is 00:23:56 where Nick Suryani blinks very hard if you ever wondered what Greg face is that is Greg face okay just the feeling you got from watching them
Starting point is 00:24:06 but like what are y'all trying to do I don't understand like what's what's the extra insight unless you're just trying to be smarmy and create this thing where it's like every we have to highlight and get the microscope out on every AJ Brown interaction. Yeah, he would like to catch the ball and get yards. But they won the game. Well, it's it's like a cross section of things. Everything you're saying is true. I mean, the Super Bowl, who can remember that? It was all the way
Starting point is 00:24:31 back in February. They don't have recording that or anything. But it is a fascinating problem that I think helps to show how complicated football is. And no matter how many times we talk about it, there is something lacking with this regular season Philadelphia Eagles offense that despite having all the talent in the world, Nick Siriani, and to your point,
Starting point is 00:25:00 I agree more focus should just be on what is he doing with some of these decisions. To that point, they gave Sequin Barclay and A.J. Brown and Dallas Goddor and Lane Johnson and Jordan Milata and Jalen Hertz and Devante Smith, top of the market money. Landon Dickerson. Many of those guys will be in the Hall of Fame someday. And they are making the choice on about a quarter of their third downs to just give up. Let's just run the ball on third and 12. Let's like not, let's literally not even try. And I don't even know why or What that, like, there's just something so strange about why it doesn't all work that it is fascinating. And that would be a great question to ask Nick Siriani instead of asking him the same exact question after we already answered it regarding somebody's performance on Janke Rondo's Twitch stream.
Starting point is 00:25:53 You want to talk about the matchup? I wonder. Actually, I was curious about that because sometimes play callers, they sequence plays together in packages and groupings. Now, I don't think it is ever great to be so pretty. predictable on third and very long that you're going to run the ball as as frequently as they do. But you could also, if devil's advocate, you could also be sequencing it with a fourth down play. But they never get to that fourth down play. Exactly. It's been so unsuccessful. One of the times was in the red zone last week. Right. So again, this is, this is part of the problem is
Starting point is 00:26:25 banging your head over and over again. This is the Eagles team in a nutshell. Banging your head on the same topic over and over and over and expecting different results. It's the same problems every year, whether it's in the past game and that's not working effectively or it's a play calling or it's the run game. You know, I think that this is ripe for the Lions who, first of all, I want to see both of these offenses reach their actual potential. And I don't think, I think we've seen it in fits and starts with both of these teams, but they have so much potential. And I would like to see both offenses reach that. I think that the Eagles defense is very close to reaching its full potential, certainly after what they look like last week. And I think that the Lions have reached
Starting point is 00:27:02 on defense, their full potential, and this is a defense that has the ability to roll and potentially even capitalize in a very interesting and cool way against, first of all, the run game and force Jalen Hertz to pass the ball because the lion's defense is not missing tackles. They're not missing tackles. And what they're trying to do with Saquan Barkley is get him into space and set up mismatches for him. I saw, this season I'm seeing, for all of his great qualities as a top running back, I'm seeing a lot of Sequin Barkley, TFLs. I'm seeing a lot of Sequin Barclay brought down on first contact. And yes, he still is capable of these great explosive plays. We want to see the passing game get
Starting point is 00:27:46 fixed. The Lions defense may help us out in this effort of wanting to see them pass the ball to a lot of different guys more. Yeah, because they're not 100% healthy. That is the biggest problem with the Lions right now. Kirby Joseph is still out of practice. Terry on Arnold suffered a concussion last week. He is not practicing on Wednesday. Generally, that means you're out for the game if you're not practicing on Wednesday after a concussion. I'm sure Aiden Hutchinson is, I would assume, is playing. He didn't practice because of an elbow injury.
Starting point is 00:28:14 So we don't know if Kirby Joseph is returning. I don't know if I mentioned that or not. So that's in the secondary, unfortunately, they could be a little shorthand. And it is strength versus strength. Jalen Hertz versus man coverage is awesome. Lyons very good in man coverage. And then, you know, Jared Goff, we talk about it. pretty much every big game like second in the league EPA per play clean 20th against pressure
Starting point is 00:28:37 can they get that pressure with the four-man pass rush it'll be fascinating yeah believe they can and will dan campbell have his glasses on these are the questions we should be asking every local market yeah hopefully they got to lane johnson uh in his status before they asked the 15th question about a j brown right because that injury looked like it was going to knock him out for weeks but lane johnson uh isn't messing around they are no longer by the way allowing jaylin carter to take any plays off. Just about the only defensive tackle in the league who just plays every single snap.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Looking forward to that Sunday night football. We're going to have to zoom through our Sunday show that can watch some Eagles and Lions. Let's take one final break. We have a trio of games to wrap up our week 11 slate. That was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's go places.
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Starting point is 00:33:10 You know, if it's an 800-meter dash, we just hit that, we just hit the corner. Patrick doing his part to break up the monotony. Sorry, everybody. Yeah, how are we doing, Eric? I forgot to throw to a Dan Campbell sound during the last break. Never apologize, Patrick. You, I love when you rant. It's the best.
Starting point is 00:33:30 It was great. We're pretty deep into this show. Has it been too monotonous, Eric? How are we doing? No, you get Patrick screaming about stuff? Great. That's too many screams. Indexing too highly on screams.
Starting point is 00:33:45 So I was going to base everything out and go to a very comfortable Kyle Shedhan. Who's 49ers are a three-point favorite. We still don't know. who the quarterback is going to be in perpetually a question mark at the Arizona Cardinals where we do know it's Jacoby Preset Kevin Coogler and Darrell Moose Johnston on the call Jordan Roderick another chance for the Cardinals to look good and lose oh I think you've said it all Patrick no I mean it's going to be tough to deal with this offense coming off of what just
Starting point is 00:34:21 happened to them and poor Jacoby Preset Seattle came after him right away. Obviously, turn the ball over a couple of times. And now they're also going to be without Marvin Harrison Jr., who very surprising news on Wednesday, he's out because he had to have appendix surgery. So definitely not going to be on the field this week. No, it sounds like that's at least going to be a one-week absence for Marvin Harrison Jr. So, like, that's the bad news. The good news is his father won't have to watch their offense this week. He can just go golfing or something. Zay Jones also tore his Achilles last week
Starting point is 00:34:58 so feel really bad for Zay Jones and he added some depth to that group too. And in the end ownership, I don't think is going to give Gannon a huge pass for all the reasons why this is happening. Like, he
Starting point is 00:35:14 needs to make this work. They're 0 and three in the division, for instance. We were talking about division record. Like if you can't beat the 49ers at home, it's a brutal division, but you were of hired as the defensive guy who could help solve the offenses and
Starting point is 00:35:30 they all have similarities in this division if you can't be that guy what are you doing here and Brock Purdy is planning to have quote an aggressive practice with the goal of starting Sunday according to Kyle Shanney.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, who always notoriously tells the truth. That's true. I mean, he's starting quarterback. he's had the hopes of starting Sunday every single week, right? I don't think so, though, based on how Kyle's presented it. By Wednesday, they've kind of indicated that it's probably going to be Mac Jones, whereas that quote would indicate it's probably going to be Brock Purdy, or at least that's their hope this week that we could see the return of Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And I, for one, I am looking forward to it. I kind of like, you know. I don't believe you, Greg. Okay, here's the thing. I think you want to see Mac Jones. Here's the thing. It's almost like Drake May's season. it's what happened to Mac Jones over the last seven or eight weeks.
Starting point is 00:36:27 It's not going to any better than that. Let's just take them out with a couple of innings to spare and bring in Roki. You know what I mean? Like he's getting tired. It's only going to get worse from here for Mac Jones. So let's put in Brock Purdy before it all goes to hell. And they're still right in this. They have a great schedule to make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I think the 49ers still have a better chance to make the playoffs than maybe the average. person thing. One of the big things that could really be conjoined with Brock Purdy's return is also getting Ricky Pierce all back. He's expected to practice this week. And that's huge because he looked like an absolute number one receiver when he was healthy. They were poised to make him that all through training camp, his rapport with Brock Purdy. And this offense with George Kittle doing remarkable things last week and
Starting point is 00:37:21 them still losing because they just are so injured everywhere, including on their defense, which is just the walking wounded at this point, they need to score points. They need to create explosive plays to stay in their A-plus game plan, the entire game as long as they can and keep a lead as long as they can in a game and try to avoid A, having to play from behind, and B, putting too much on the shoulders of this defense that is so embattled at this point. And having a number one explosive playmaker, like Ricky Pearsall back with the quarterback who worked all spring and summer and fall with him. That would go a long way for this 49ers team.
Starting point is 00:38:02 A long way to, I think, give perhaps more opportunities to Brian Robinson, Jr. Hey. In the run game, not to necessarily take carries away from CMC, but to deploy CMC more where you would like to deploy them in the passing gaming and give him a break. uh in the run game because we see we see the explosiveness uh that the christian can provide where i i i don't necessarily think it's it's close uh in this one i would have the 49ers easily in a game uh where they can get the seven and four and you know kind of have the cardinals where where i think maybe they should i i think this is a good cardinals defense still and
Starting point is 00:38:46 i think jacobie against a team that doesn't really have much of a pass rush has a shot so I would expect another one of those close Cardinals games. It is surprising to me, neither of these teams run the ball well. I mean, the Cardinals are down to 28th in DVOA in terms of running, but the 49ers aren't much better. They need a really big game from guys like Tatum Bethune, for example, because this is going to be all Trey McBride through the middle of the field all day for Jacoby Brissette. So Upton Stout really love him as a player.
Starting point is 00:39:17 He is too small of a human to be defending a tight end in the slot. And so you really need a big game from your inside linebackers and support safeties and all of that against Tray McBride. This could be a big, I don't do fantasy football. This could be a big Tray McBride fantasy game and still the San Francisco 49ers win. At this point, they all are. Trey McBride has had five touchdowns in four games with Jacoby Brissette in the previous 21 game with Tyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:39:47 He's been posting about him in his Instagram story also, which Trope Alert, I know. Like, you know, when Jacoby was named the starter, there's a post of him lifting him up after they scored a touchdown. He's very productive. Speaking of, you know, fantasy, Pierceaw was available in my local 10-year-old kids league. So, I mean, just take a look. Maybe someone snoozed and let go of them too early.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I think you want to change how you present that information. I mean, people get it. The Baltimore Ravens are seven and a half point favorites against Dylan Gabriel for now. and the Cleveland Browns, the overrunners, 39 and a half. Andrew Catalan, Charles Davis and Jason McCordy. They're on the call. Greg Rosenthal. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Is this the final start for Dylan Gay. Okay. I saw Stefansky was like, Dylan knows he's got to be more accurate and hit some of those throws that were there. We know that. Just, you're getting mad about Nick Siriani trying to throw people off the center or answering questions about something that doesn't matter. Yes, Dylan Gabriel is not a good NFL starting quarterback.
Starting point is 00:40:50 on the amount of matters who is starting at quarterback for this team. You might as well see Shadir at some point. Whatever. This offensive line is truly terrible. These two tackles are worse at playing tackle, I think, and that includes unfortunately Conklin, who's been around a long time, then Dylan Gabriel is
Starting point is 00:41:06 at playing quarterback. This was the most expensive offense in the NFL last year. They are paying Wyatt Teller and Betonio and Joku money, big money into next year that's already dead money. assuming they're not even going to be back on the team
Starting point is 00:41:22 because of Watson and everything. But this is what Andrew Berry has wrought. And I feel like he's gotten such a pass. And I do think these are the final days of Kevin Stefansky. When Dan Orlovsky was on ESPN saying that he thinks Stefansky would be a good choice for Jackson Dart and the Giants, I mean, alarm bells started going off for me. I'm like, oh, like, I don't know what, what's going
Starting point is 00:41:50 on here? What agent or who's pushing different agendas? But I do think conventional wisdom is now on the side of like, Stefansky is not going to survive this season for the Brown. Wasn't a lot of room on that raft when the Titanic went down, you know? Jimmy Haslam, their owner, said before the season, three and 14 isn't going to work. So he literally is on the record of like what would be a bad record. And that's like what they're on pace for. But so many decisions are directly linked to his decision. It's something we talked about with Chris Greer, where you get a job, you get a great job, whether it's writing at the athletic, whether it's being on NFL network, working for NFL media, where your job is to keep
Starting point is 00:42:30 your job. And if the big boss says, I would like to do this, and then you do this, it seems weird for the big boss to be like, oh, you did this? You're fired, where now it would be weird for the big boss to do that, but the big boss is the big boss, so they can do whatever they want. The craziest stat with this game is that this is the sixth straight matchup that the Browns have had a different quarterback against the Raven. That is insane.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Let's talk Ravens very quickly before we move on from this game. Labar did mispractice to start the week with a sore knee. Yes. Something small to keep an eye on. Harbaugh said he expects him back on Thursday and then he expects he'll play. Although we did hear similar-ish things when he was struggling through an injury previously this year. I do think Lamar's, you know, the way that they integrate him running the ball. He is running the ball less than he's ever run the ball.
Starting point is 00:43:17 And so I've got a fever. and the only prescription for it is more Keaton Mitchell. Oh my God. That's what can help solve this Ravens running game if Lamar's not going to run again. If you only did the accent. I feel like you can pull it off. I don't need to. Just give me some more Keaton Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:43:34 That kid looks awesome. Yeah, last two games, I believe 7.4, two out of his last three games. 7.4 yards per carry and 10 yards per carry for Keaton Mitchell. And there was Justice Hill only had one carry last week. It was the touchdown that he got where I don't know. What happened there to get like goal line back, Justice Hill? They're not all the way back. And this matchup could point that out.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Because that's why you need Keaton Mitchell, I think, is because their guards aren't that good. And Derek Henry needs a little lane to go through. Keaton Mitchell is explosive enough that you might just get him creating plays on his own or, you know, getting through a hole quicker than a Derek Henry would. Rashad Bateman's hurt. He has an ankle sprain that might keep him out this week. Isaiah likely has, I mean, no production this year. Neither does Bateman. They aren't all the way back.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And I think this will be an interesting matchup to watch, at least when the Ravens have it. That's it. Interesting. They get in the end zone a couple times. Here's one thing. Fourth and one, Mark Andrews under center in the push formation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I would like to see that for the remainder of the season. I love that. Yes. The opportunity, the options out of it, tossing it to Lamar. You still got passing option. there you sneak it with mark andrews considering the way things have gone on fourth and one earlier in the season i would like it every time what if we're back it's the playoff it's like uh penult it's the moment
Starting point is 00:45:05 of the season against the bills right against the bills little mark andrews redemption i would love to i'd be a little worried though like i would i would be in tears before the play before the play. We'll have a chance to see it. We also have a chance to remember the Dallas Cowboys exists. Isn't it fun when people take a break and they come back and it's like, oh, here you are, an opportunity to see the Cowboys in prime time. Once again, Monday night football, Dallas three and a half point favorites, Jordan, against the resurgent. Las Vegas, Raiders, they've got healthy Brock Bowers and they're moving the ball now occasionally. It was a really good defense last week. How do you see this one going? Yeah, I think ever since Brock Bowers came back,
Starting point is 00:45:48 it's amazing what having one of the best players in the entire NFL can do for your offense and for your quarterback to get your quarterback back on track. Also, Chip Kelly, your favorite coach in the entire world, Patrick. Chip Kelly, active, baby. Showing a little bit of flexibility and getting pointedly mentioned by Pete Carroll in seemingly every press conference at this point. We'll see if that continues. I have loved this Dallas offense all season.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I still love this Dallas offense. What I'm really, really interested in, and they've been through the worst couple of weeks as a group that you can imagine. And I am glad that somebody with the, I think, emotional intelligence that Brian Schottenheimer has is leading this group through the tragedy of Marshaun Neelan's passing. And I'm not going to sit here and do the thing that sports does,
Starting point is 00:46:50 where it's like, you know, turn it into this or that or whatever. In a vacuum, I am curious to see how this Cowboys' Iberfalis-led defense adjust from the absolute fiasco that they were earlier in the season. And overall, I know this is going to be an incredibly emotional game for every Dallas Cowboys coach player, support staff, front office member. my heart goes out to him. And like I said, I'm glad Brian Schottenheimer's the one in charge over there.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah, I think that's well said. I think that's one of the most impressive things about Schottenheimer and why I thought he could be the right guy to lead this team in general, beyond the offense, which has had its moments, although, you know, struggled a little bit the last couple of weeks. I do struggle with that because they're going to put a lot onto this game. and it is going to be emotional to be out there for the first time
Starting point is 00:47:46 without Marsha Nieland, especially the way that they've happened. But I have been, I guess impressed is the wrong word, but just heartened to hear how openly so many of the different players have spoken about it and I've spoken about mental health.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I thought Michael Parsons' ex-teamate was beautiful on that too. And yeah, it's one of those games that, like, it doesn't feel like it's gonna... like have a big impact on the playoff race or anything like that and yet i think it's going to be like really meaningful for these young men and and the older you know men and women that are in the organization too to just have a moment together and they've been back together as such you know strange timing too because it was when the team was all apart from them and so they've
Starting point is 00:48:33 been back together this week and they've spoken a lot about that yeah we see teams and players deal with personal loss uh all the time and that's the thing when you You suffer a big loss and you take a second away and you notice the world is still spinning and everybody's going about their business, but now they're all doing it together. And they have to work through that with all the people who are experiencing that. And I think like we subtract that element. We talk about all these things that don't matter and distractions. Like this is one where it's going to be on everybody's.
Starting point is 00:49:12 mind in an opportunity for for them to to see how they perform in in the game at work where you kind of take a step back and think of perspective is like this is all this stuff doesn't really matter in in comparison to that but yeah you guys mentioned with shot andheimer and I think what this this group of veterans that's gone through a lot a lot of guys that have seen a lot of coaches seen a lot of turnover they've they've had great games but they've also had horrible game. And, you know, the matchup to get back to football is a winnable one, an exceedingly winnable one against the Raiders team that also hasn't lived up to the expectations that we had. Yeah, you know, Dak, I mean, I'm thinking about Doc Prescott, too,
Starting point is 00:49:57 that he's, yeah, he dealt with it too on a personal level. And, yeah, before we leave, it does occur to me. I read this book this year called, it's called Things in Nature merely grow. It's by Yi Yan Lee, who's one of my favorite novelists, I would say, of the last, like, 10 years, and she lost her sons to suicide, which is a crazy thing to happen to a parent. Anyways, I'll just say that if even three people or one person out here listening is interested in that. It's nominated for a National Book Award. I believe it's like a finalist right now, but it reframed how I think about suicide in general as someone that is living on past the people that you love. So obviously, it's more than football raiders and cowboys.
Starting point is 00:50:41 boys, but we will be watching on Monday night. And that's it. We got to the end of the week 11 slate here. We did it. We are past the halfway point. We've made it. I was wondering, should I create a graphical representation for the conversation, guys?
Starting point is 00:51:00 I think so. For people to track? I love a visual need. On blue sky, maybe I'll make like a Reddit account. I love a visually. I love a visual. On the NFL Daily Pod subreddit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And who is leading right now? I mean, you're holding out from us. No, it's Stafford. Okay. I feel like I said that. It's Stafford far away because he gets his lifetime achievement points. But he's got some folks chasing, including the guy that they traded to get Matthew Stafford and won Mr. Gough. Okay.
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