NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 2nd Annual PRIDECAST

Episode Date: June 10, 2022

A patio filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Marc Sessler, Colleen Wolfe and Erica Tamposi bring you all the latest news around the league and celebrate Pride Month from Rocco's in West Hollywood. The heroes catch up with Ricky (6:00) before diving into the latest Rams contract signings (15:00) and other news items of note (23:00). Then, we debut a roundtable segment called "What We're Gay For in 2022," where the heroes discuss things they're happy about and what they're looking forward to both in the upcoming NFL season and just generally in life (58:00). Note: timecodes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Around the NFL podcast, still a better love story than twilight. Love is love, is love, is love. Oh my God. It's fine. Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL from, Rockos here in West Hollywood, the heart of Boys Town. During Pride Month, my name's Dan Hansis, and I'm on a patio filled with some heroes.

Greg Rosenthal, housing a sandwich, Connie Fox, Mark Sessler, and oh my goodness, she's already back. Ricky Hollywood, Erica Tamposi. What's up, gang? Couldn't get rid of me that quickly, could you? This is the Ricky show. You know, every year we will be here.

It was a glory. I will look back on that first pride cast forever because there was the first time we ever did it after the pandemic. We were so giddy just to be together in that moment that like I don't even know what an NFL talk we did, if any, at all. But a helicopter landed in the middle of the podcast. Like it was all so perfect. Which is not to suggest that we're jaded now because I am very excited to be here. You know, we got some drinks in front of us. water, of course.

We have our friends here. We have Randy Chavez. We got Sean Kelly. You got my brother. Kevin Danger. Let's give it up for Kevin Danger. All right. We actually saw a film with Danger on Monday night called

Daughters of Darkness at the New Beverly. And it was quite an experience, Dan. That's very true. Dan had to lightly scold the kids table right before we started the podcast just to tell them to keep it down a little over there. I was hoping that Justin, Graver, the Grave-digger was going to step in and say something. And I did, I can't help it in my head.

It was like, Erica would have said something already. Oh, yeah. I was seconds away from asking them to quiet their conversation. Buried in a big spot. Very exciting to be here together. And, you know, we've been together for so long now. And there's been good times and there's been bad times. And I feel like we're in a good time cycle right now.

so let's all appreciate being able to be together here in the middle of West Hollywood. This is so cool. The Pride cast during Pride Month with Rick. Yeah, baby. And a lot to get to. And by the way, Mark, excellent debut app of this guy gets it. Thank you.

You know, I like to listen back to these just because it's a newer show, a complete report to start with, a trenchant report, and that's what I'm going for. And I hope that the listeners each week will be loyal and come back. It delivered on its promise, which was, here's the floor. Mark, obviously, now he signs a new contract and they want more from him. And what's he here?

He's here to deliver takes. And I didn't catch any real take in the first app. That was the one thing I would say. It was informative. It was informative. Colleen nailed it. That's your opinion. I thought it was rich with takes.

What's up to again? What is the episode number? Episode two. Oh, turf. Tug and turf war. No, that's actually was episode 20. That was episode 22 we just listened to. In 23 next week is a deeper look at the various choices teams have made about turf or grass.

Very sober-minded and informational, though. Very like Dick Scha-Shap on the sports reporters kind of vibe. I wasn't expecting that from you, but... I think there's a space to be filled there, and that's what I'm attempting to do. And there's also... It does crack the door open for my dream is that we're one step closer to Spiorts with Miarxias. We're not going there. Are you sure?

I mean, you know, listen, we're here today. I could make some decisions today that could change my entire life. You've got to get some drinks in them, basically. It's happening. And now let's turn our attention. We have so much to get to today, by the way. We have news. We have a nice SAG looking forward to 2020 here in Boys Town.

We'll get to in a little bit. But we need to talk to Ricky Hollywood. Erica. Yes. What? First of all, Ricky. This is fun, right? This is all together, right in your neck of the

Woods here. You're happy to be here, right? Oh, my God. I am so excited. So excited to be with everyone. Longtime interviewer, Dan Hansus. Yeah. It's been, it's been amazing. Um, you know, the past, how long has it been now? A month since. Since you left us, yes. Yeah. It's been amazing. It's been so refreshing. Since you hit us with the, it's not you, it's me. Yeah. Yeah. Um, no, I mean, let's pull back the curtain here. You guys did know some stuff was coming up on my plate that I'm very excited at. And today is a phenomenal celebration because

I'm out here. Bishes. Sorry, Justin. Tomorrow is my last day at the NFL. Oh, my goodness. How old are you? It's like out here. You know, you're out of here. She goes.

She's out. Out of the closet? Or is that what you're going to? No, she's out. The bridecast. I got you. It took a second. Ricky, you have a glow to you, is it the removal of us that has allowed that glow to start to emanate from your skin? No, no, no, it's been sad. You know,

we're talking about plans for... She says that with a big smile. I don't sense, like, deep sadness, but okay. You don't seem sad enough. No, I mean, you know, Greg tweeted out this beautiful thing about your amazing contract and no pictures of me, no, you know, inclusion for the last five years and, you know, when... Inclusion, Greg? Yeah,

Greg, the podcast. I don't know, I'm just, it's bitter sweet to see you guys thriving. You know, I wish, I wish I wish you would, I texted Dan. I was like, can you be any happier that I'm gone? And he's like, oh, shut up. Like, the show has to go on. And I was like, but be a little sad, you know?

Yeah, but you're not sad. This is, like, I feel like, it's great because it removed, like, the responsibility for you. And now you can just, like, hang out and have fun. Like, that's how I feel when I come on the show. I don't have, like, a true work responsibility, like, in terms of the levels and, like, the drops. And, like, that seems stressful, Graver. I'm sure you're doing great. I can't even help it.

I'm like, are we recording? Did you lead with the levels? Yeah. The levels are incredibly important. They are. But I had to check. Like, are you recording, Justin? I'm like, wait, what am I?

Stop, Erica. You got to stop. You're out. Well, you're a mentor. Where are you going? I am going somewhere that I'm very excited about. Mysterious. Yeah.

A couple of places, actually. We've got some really cool things on the horizon. One big thing that I'm not able. to announce yeah all right well leave it at that working on something well you know this was we talked about it when you left that this just made sense for your next step to to do your ricky thing and um if you're more successful than us i will resent you but if you find that it's like sam darnold when he left the jets if you find an acceptable level of success i'm very happy for you if you find too much success resentment no take me with you i'm like super happy for you keep going

and keep working hard and then bring me along for the ride. What do you think about Grave Digger, how he's done so far? Be honest. I think he's done a phenomenal job. But, you know, it... I mean, how would you know? There's no way you've listened to our podcast since. And I don't blame you for that, but there's no chance.

Actually, a couple of times I would listen to the beginning and end just to find out, like, what you guys did during the weekend. Because I, like, don't get texts anymore, like, about what's happening. Oh, no. But I get a lot of hitting out. You're still on the ATM backer chains. You didn't mention. We're settling going on here. mention me in the tweets celebrating

yeah yeah the truth is the truth is yes because you did send me that text and we worked together for so long and you're such an awesome part of the show and you're you know forever be a part of the show but like you know again it ain't you girl you talk about me and my brother went to honanos in Venice last week and kind of had a beer and a burger and felt the presence of

of Chris and like like I It's still hard to believe that, like, two weeks after we lost Chris, we were doing episodes again. And because that's just kind of what this job is, you know, you just keep moving. So that's what I said to basically that, like, it's not like we forgot about Ricky. It's like, this is a machine, the tank. There's no reverse gears in this tank, Mark. Right, but one other question. Do you find Gravedigger, is he, is him, his ambition, is he too ambitious?

Is there a concern there on your front? You're a supervisor. No, so you know, the concern is on Mark's front, but he's trying to use you to like say. I'm asking for your end. So, so honestly, it's a direct reflection on me because Justin has been my second for the past year. So for the last year, I have been training him to get him to a, a superb level. And that's why I felt comfortable leaving you guys in the best hands. Do you have advice for Graver, like a just like one last piece of advice for producing this podcast?

Yeah, no, I think it's important to stay grounded and know that Greg is always going to come off as brutally honest, but it comes from a loving place. Dan cares more about this show than his own children almost, and I respect that because he really wants to get it right, so get it right for him. And Mark just wants to know what time to start and when he can leave. So as long as you have those timings and you know what's happening, that you know what's happening. And you're going to be great. It's deadly accurate. And shout out to Jack and Harrison. I do love you, but there are limits.

All right. This is awesome. Ricky, I love having you here with us. Thank you. I love having everybody here with. Yeah. Where's Kevin Danger? He left.

He went to the bar. He's my brother. He's my brother. He's really sexy, by the way. You went to danger? I mean, he's got the rolled up sleeves, the slip back hair. The hair in the family is ridiculous. He's not bringing me back.

But the Jaws shirt with, like, the blood and gore on it is like, kind of sexy. The sunglasses, like, are you threatened at all before we get into, like, I would feel... He is the younger brother, you know? He's almost six years younger, so... But he's like, he's, like, beefy. He's like... He's a big boy.

And I would say he does exude, and it's not just my observation, although I feel this way. But... Sex appeal. He has raw sex energy coming off him. Yeah. And we've been to multiple events where, like, women are coming out of the woodwork and taking pictures with Kevin Danger. So, that's my report on

Right. How many kids are in the family? Do you have other brothers, too? I have a sister. Hell yeah. What's she look like? A rarely discussed sister. So it look like my TikTok filter of you?

Is that what your sister? No, that's not what she looks like. Aunt Dan? Aunt Dan. No, I'm very happy that Kevin's here. And if maybe this is the neighborhood for him, maybe it's not, you know, after the show. But let's see what happens. What kind of energy emanates?

for danger. We got a lot to get to. Transition. So much to get to. But let's start, you know, like we do. I have to say, Gregi, you know, you send your, it's the messaging client that we use. This time of year, sometimes when you send this is the news that I kind of saw.

Kevin, you just missed like a hardcore, like, conversation about you specifically. About your sexuality. You'll have to listen to the episode. And you went to the bar. Love is love, his love is love, is love. And this beer is full. And I'm back, baby.

There he is, danger. Exuding that BDN. Let's now talk about the show. Okay. We're going to talk about things that we're feeling gay for in 2022 here in the middle of the boys town. But before we do that, let's hit the news. Well, just maybe a little bit of all of us. You know, everyone's a little good.

That's right. That's an ally. Oh, my point was, sometimes when Greg sends the news rundown, it's like, this sucks. And, like, Mark and I will privately text about Greg's, like, news rundown. It's like, where does he get off even thinking this is news? We do, like, a 20-minute back and forth about it. But this time, Greg, it was like, this is a real good, beefy news. You got a stretch in OTA season.

Some of it's unfortunate news, but it is beefy. It is meaningful. News by its nature is something that you don't know and probably find unpleasant typically. We used to back in the day when we did three shows a week in OTA and Minicamp season and we were writing articles like Minicamp takeaways, winners and losers for Minicamp. We were stretching.

And now we don't do almost any news from Minicamp of like who's a starter and who's looking good. We've given all that up. Well, save for another episode of This Guy Gets It with Mark Sessler because that's a great up idea. Yeah, that's two from now. I'm starting to write that up and I'll get that to you soon. Thank you.

All right, let's get to the news. Let's start with the Rams. They've done it again. Signing big deals with their greatest stars, locking them up for another Super Bowl run to come. Let's do it in order in which they occurred. The Rams restructured Aaron Donald's contract. We, you know, we went through the old process of, oh, is he going to retire? No, he was never going to retire.

He just wanted a raise. And guess what? He got to raise an extra $40 million over the next three seasons, keeps him on the field. And it makes him the highest paid defensive player in football, which is bang, exactly where he should be. And it pays him like a star quarterback, which makes sense. And then two days later, Cooper Cup signs a three-year extension, the star wide receiver. It's essentially a new five-year, $110 million deal, puts him in that category of the highest paid wide receivers in football, $22 million a year coming off in all world season. So here we go, Greg, and people are going to Hemen Haw and get all fired up about the

Rams salary cap situation. But at the end of the day, they know what they're doing. They've proven it. And they are getting into bed with two guys that are cornerstones. No pun intended. What I say? The bride can not stop for us off. Of their Super Bowl championship.

That's going to be Erica's job this episode, just to point out. Anything like. Sounds vaguely. Getting into bed with two guys during our podcast? That's perfect. You did that on topic. I did not.

I did that, but that's where my mind's at here. Yeah, exactly. In West Hollywood. The Donald deals, one of the crazier deals, and it makes sense because he's maybe the greatest football player ever, one of the best football players ever, one of the best defensive football players. He's in the mix.

I'm just saying. But to get more than $30 million a year where you didn't even get any extra years tacked on, it was just like, we're going to give you more money. Here's, you know, 10 million more year. Here's, you know, basically $100 million guaranteed. It's basically like a two-year deal.

But it's just a sign that, like, the teams with the owners who have a ton of cash have a huge advantage. Because everyone's like, how does this all work with the salary cap? It's just because you're giving them cash. It's not Stan Cronkey's just got cash to burn. He's just throwing money away lately. He really is. I'm not being real about it, but like, their side. finding bonuses that they can give and just spread the money out.

Like, the Giants couldn't do that. You got a broke owner. You know, the Steelers can't do that. The Titans can't do it. Though he couldn't do the deals that Cooper Cup and Aaron Donald didn't make. This is not necessarily a good thing because it's true. It's not a great thing for the future of the league. I think it's fine.

I just don't understand what the salary cap is at this point because the Rams have three players that are making, each making over $25 million. I'm getting like a chums. I guess the cap with the signing bonus and you could pro-rate it. And it's this thing. These deals are going to be the one that make it the talking point now because now everyone's fighting about it. I saw Andrew Brandt went on Pat McAfee's show and then they were bagging on Pelliserro who came on good morning football this morning. It's like defend himself that the salary cap does matter.

But what it comes down to like the very like from what I understand, cap over cash, if you are a rich owner, who's willing to spend and take a risk on not getting caught with a horrible contract with your great stars if they fall off, you could spread out that bonus money and then your cap will be okay. By the time you get to five years from how big is the salary cap going to be. But this is not new. But however, Washington and Dallas were doing this 25 years ago. This is not a new thing. However, and this comes from someone who's a big baseball fan who's seen the disparity in salary caps.

Even in salary, even as a Yankee fan, has had a negative effect on the sport. Now that, like, there is a light being shined on this in a different way, it does make me, again, worry about Joe Burrow. It makes me worry about Justin Herbert. What's going to happen for these teams that aren't willing to do the same thing that the Rams are? Right. Football, one of the reasons it's become a national sport where no matter who's playing on Thursday night,

it's going to blow the ratings of any other athletic competition out there is because the NFL focused for so long on equitable scenarios between all 32 teams, going back to when there were 28 teams, that this is starting to become an issue, is not good for football on any level. And I don't think the cap thing is an issue at all, but they do in two seasons from now have $128 million tied up in four players. That said, they look at that, they know that, and they know they manage that. And we'll see what those contract situations are in two years anyways.

But if they win another Super Bowl, then it doesn't matter. None of this matter. And what's their defense without Aaron Donald? Everything changes. So they just had to do these things. It's not this thing where it's like, ooh, the bill's going to come do someday. No, you can just keep doing this.

No. I've been doing this. That's what I was going to say. Like the Rams are a perfect. I think that's why they're such an interesting talking point with this. Because they're the perfect example in both directions. They did the same thing with golf and they did the same thing with Gurley and it backfired. And you would think, oh, if you backfire with these type of deals, you're screwed for five years.

They won the Super Bowl. So it's like, maybe it's just, I don't know, maybe Greg, because you say you're not as concerned about it, maybe it just comes down to the league is changing, the way players are paid is changing, and teams will adapt because ultimately they are all very wealthy people behind these teams. I hope it does, but my concern is that some teams won't be able to do the things that a team like the Rams can do. I think it's an edge, but it's still a hard cap in some ways. It's not that huge of an edge. Like, it's not going to turn dumb franchises into successful ones just because they have an owner that can spend a lot of money. The Donald thing is unique, but Cups Steel is more him saying, like, actually, I won't try to max out. And these are two players that, like, you can't be wrong on.

One of the greatest three defensive players of all time and the best receiver in the league last year. It's like, you can't really be wrong. Injuries, right, and it's football. But Cubs Steel isn't crazy. to you the latest episode, right this guy gets it? I think we've covered that topic in a rich fashion. Cups deal reminds me more of a little bit like Rob Gruncowski's deal. He's signed early in his career that he regretted.

And Cups getting 75 guaranteed. That's second or third among receivers, so he's happy. But he didn't try to break the bank with this. If anything, his deal will look below market sooner than later. But is there a better place to be than to be in Los Angeles to have a team that's going all in year after year? and like to do it here in California and having won a Super Bowl too. I mean, it feels like they just have everything going for them.

They have Sean McVeigh, who everyone loves and adores. And like, you know, he just got married and he's eating Lombardi cake at his wedding. And you're like, yeah. And O'Donnell Beckham Jr. is crashing his wedding. And like he's going to resign. Yeah, for sure. This team feels like it just has that like it factor. And then you have the Chargers who are really fun, exciting team on the rise.

It's a good time for L.A. football. To your point, that's a pretty big difference in ownership. And we're about to talk about, like, another part of the Walmart dynasty, which Stan Cronkey is too. He married into it. He was already rich, and then he married into Walmart. That's such a great move. And that is such a difference between them and the Chargers.

Such a great move. The Chargers are essentially what the Jets used to be in Giant Stadium, and they're a family-run operation that's never really made their own money. You know, they came from the... So if there ever was going to be a dichotomy, it's those two L.A. teams because the Chargers, I don't think, have a lot of cash. Truth, bro, truth. All right, let's, that was a weird transition. I loved it.

No, it was great. A-plus. But it is true. I'm feeling good about your Celtics, Greg. Celtics and five. Celtics in five, no. I think six. Ew, I hate this.

I'll take whatever. I'll take whatever. All right. This story's not going to go away. And you can say you're sick of the story, but. Facts are facts and things keep coming out, and it's just important. And to the NFL season to come, and that's what we're doing here, to talk about this stuff. The New York Times reported Tuesday that Brown's quarterback, Deshaun Watson, booked massage appointments with at least 66 different women over 17 months from the fall of 2019 through the spring of 2021.

The list of 66 includes that 24 women who have filed lawsuits against Watson. including two in the past week, a woman who sued Watson but then withdrew the complaint, two women who filed criminal complaints against Watson but did not sue him, at least 15 therapists who issued statements of support for Watson at the request of his lawyers, at least four therapists contracted with the Texans, and it goes on and on and on. And, Connie, this is a situation here where it's like, the New York Times and Jenny Vrentis, who's an excellent reporter,

Not just a great NFL reporter, just a great report. And that's why she ended up at the Times, the gray lady, as it's known. They're doing the work. They did the work that the Brown supposedly said. Right. The due diligence that the Brown said that they did. And now these two other lawsuits just came about. Like, shouldn't this be enough?

Just based on, I texted you guys about the last episode and Greg outlining exactly what some of the suits say. And just like hearing that language is jarring in and of itself. Like it feels like it's a violation to just hear about it. Shouldn't that be enough? The fact that Deshawn Watson booked appointments with 66 women from 2019 to 2021. He said that it was only 40. Okay, fine.

66 women. And then the fact that in this New York Times article, that the Texans supposedly were helping with NDAs and basically providing a safe space for this to happen. Shouldn't this be enough? When you read the latest suit from the 24th woman, it's appalling. Like, I don't even want to say the things that happened

because I don't even feel comfortable saying it on a mic for a national news network because it just feels wrong. And shouldn't that, be enough that it is uncomfortable to even talk about the details surrounding these cases why is he not suspended yet why is he being awarded the largest contract to play why is there a bidding war for his services when he is out treat this is a pattern this is not a one-off this is multiple women you can't tell me that this is just like a coincidence that this is

like a money grab this is not and this is a total violation and it's a slap in the face to women across society basically not even just like NFL fans it's just like being a woman in general and hearing about this and it's just going to keep happening new updates new suits anything and it's just it's a lot to to hear about and now to have to talk about because it's my job i it's infuriating quite frankly. And there have been so many times where I say, I don't want to talk about it, because I don't want these feelings to bubble up. But I am so angry. I'm so angry at the Browns, at the NFL, he should be suspended, full stop. Yeah, it is absolutely sickening and you absolutely hit the nail on the head as a woman, not even an NFL fan, as a woman, to be reading, you know,

comments. And of course, there are trolls, but there are a majority of people who, feel differently than we do and to me that is so that's sickening in the acts itself as well because it is just like everywhere we turn it is a constant you know battle to deal with yourself when you're reading this and you're looking at how people i mean you are showing us who you are when we're reading these comments and you think we don't know who you are but it is like so hurtful and i've looked at something that that in his contract the reason why the browns became you know part of the race for as Sean Watson is because it almost was like his agent had written that contract. There are like no voids.

There are all these different type of things that these other teams that were in the race for him dropped out because it was essentially like Watson's agent wrote it. So looking at this and his contract, he's, he really kind of is bulletproof still to this day and to that itself is makes me sick to my stomach. The way he's not though is if they suspend him. And I think that's why the timing and the. The details in this article are so important, the public pressure that has come up the last three weeks. Kevin Stefansky has spoken, the Brown's coach, on Wednesday in each of the last three weeks.

On each of those Wednesdays, the day before, there was a major Deshawn Watson development. We've talked about them in this show. It's the HBO, then it was the extra civil lawsuit, and now it's this reporting. And I do think the timing should influence the NFL's suspension. So not only are the Texans now being brought into this lawsuit, according to Tony Busby, the lawyer who's representing all the women in this case, they're now suing the Texans as well, which adds a whole other wrinkle to it. But the details that are coming out and I think absolutely provides public pressure.

And that's what good reporters and good media work can be. do. And I think the NFL responds, unfortunately, to public pressure and PR more than anything. And the fact that this is all happening now, to me, is very meaningful. Because frankly, that 24th claimant, which was very tough to read about, it really wasn't that different than if you read them all. And that's kind of what I said this whole time. Like, read all the reporting from Jenny. Read all the cases if you want, or don't talk about it. But if you're going to, like, read all the cases. It really wasn't that um different than most of them it's just part of a pattern and so and so but i do think like this happening now is going to really make a difference and i was it's so hard to guess but i just feel like

he's going to be suspended longer than i thought he was going to be a few months ago i'm with you i think there's there's been a quickening on that front and i to your point erika at this point if you're the cleveland browns you've completely lost your identity and your north star and and whatever it was you were hoping to do with all this. It's incredibly cynical. It's left a dark blanket and aura over the entire offseason and going forward because the story is not going away. And I've tweeted a few things lately, you know, have been a Browns fan, was a Browns fan since sixth grade, which was a million and a half years ago. And I feel so comfortable totally abandoning everything that they stand for at this point. But there are, like with any fan base, when you tweet something about that,

a massive group of people that come at you telling you that you know you're not a guy you're not a real guy if you've jumped ship because you don't have any fortitude just stick with it stick the course be a real fan utter nonsense and it's like to greg's point i don't think that many of these people have it's not just men it's it's female browns fans too and at this point i feel like there's a complete disconnect with reality and that that portion of fans that are on that And it's like, to Greg's point, go read what this case is about, victim by victim. And I just one other thing, like, and I won't get into, like, the graphics of everything. But just like a few things that popped out to me reading the 24th suit here,

just about how Watson's tone became more aggressive as he repeatedly made demands about where he should be massaged and how that he kept piercing eye contact with the masseuse as she was clearly uncomfortable. And then even worse things after that. Like in times like these, I just so desperately wish that Wes was here so I could hear what he had to say. Because I know what he would say about it,

but I just, I wish I could hear it. And there is a, and Mark, you're dealing with that, and that's very true, Colleen. Wes would be on fire about this and rightfully so. There's a segment of the fan base Cleveland fans that just want this to go away so they can get back to having their new superstar quarterback and that's the Browns as an organization

that they were expecting this to kind of blow over and it hasn't blown over at least not yet and we'll see it does it doesn't and it would have it would have if he just offered some level of contrition and settled the cases I mean that's the thing he could end this all pretty quickly he'll still get suspended the same amount but if he if he wanted to end it he could end but it's almost like more or less

From his perspective, he's in too deep now because he's been playing this game for so long. The Browns are in too deep. It makes me wonder are the Browns internally how they actually feel about this now? That's why he brought up Stefanski. He's had these press conferences and he's so uncomfortable about it. And you could almost just see in his face realizing like, this is my life now. They completely, we talked about it the day it happened on March 17th, I think it was, like that the Browns completely. are missing the boat of what this actually means.

What this means for the team, what this means morally, what this, everything, it changes everything about the Browns and that's where we are now. So is Deshawn Watson, totally removed from reality. There has not been one word, one syllable out of his mouth that suggests authenticity or accountability

on any level. He seems completely removed from the entire situation and what this means for his own life. All right, let's take a break and we'll hit some more news. Hey, this is Matt Jones. Now, I'm Drew Franklin.

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Erstweiler producer. Mickey Hollywood. I just was like, you got to start it. Hey, hit your timer, baby. I can't help it. Once you have been in the arena, you're always a player. It's muscle memory. You never leave the arena.

I can't. The Broncos and has Tuesday night that the club and the Walton Penner family have entered into a purchase and sale agreement to acquire the team. The Walton Penner family is now set to acquire ownership of the Broncos from the Pat Boland Trust pending approval of the NFL's from the NFL's Finance Committee and at least three-fourths of the owners. The winning bid was for, kind of in the realm of what our new deal with NFL is.

4.65 billion, according to NFL networks, James Palmer. This is one of those, like these teams now, like the Rams, that are going to be able to do that cash over cap stuff. And it just makes me think, like, with Russell Wilson's contract coming up, it can be a lot less complicated now for them, that they can just give him a monster. their signing bonus, spread it out in a way that the Bolins could not. Like, this is proof that any owner who's not really doing a good job,

fans should be like, just sell it, bro. Or you just, like, get your billions. Get, you could sell it for $4 billion. So if you don't have the money, like, go sell your team because $4.65 billion is outrageous. Like, the Bolins makes, like, what was happening within their family makes Succession look like My Little Pony or something. And yet it could not have worked out any better for them. And I think if you're a Broncos fan, ultimately you're happy because this ownership group,

according to Forbes, is five times richer than the second richest NFL owner. They've got $70 to $90 billion. You're a Broncos fan. You are feeling no pain right now. You have Russell Wilson on a really strong roster, and you just got bought by a mega-rich double oligarch scenario. Walmart money. I think Greg naturally underrates the competitive nature of my little pony to some degree.

That was a bit of a bizarre comment by him. But I would say this, a lot of times when a new owner comes in, if you're the head coach, if you're anyone in the organization, you're thinking potential overhaul. Not this time, though. This is one. If you were Vic Fongio and they kept you one more year, you're out of there, baby. But Nathaniel Hackett, Russell, Wilson, it's a great time to take over the team to provide stability, and it's a good time to be Nathaniel Hackett.

A few things. Yes. I wonder if this means that they'll get a new stadium. It did catch on fire earlier this year at one point. Nice. That seems possible. Nice little take there on the stadiums. It's a little weird that the Walmart family owns most of the Denver sports teams

because Cronky owns a couple of them too. So Walmart's just like putting their stakes down. What's it wrong with Walmart anyways? What was that? Also, the one member of the ownership group that is not connected to the Walmart money, Melody Hobson She's married to George Lucas Which I thought was interesting

And they might bring in Peyton Manning You know as like a partial small ownership Peyton Manning that advised the Jets to hire Adam Gase Let's you know We don't need Peyton Manning in an advisor role Just stay in your little booth with your brother And let's fly Not George Lucas's first wife by the way

He went through a rocky divorce many years ago Thank you We'll have to all flying about that Mark's always got to get that Star Wars topic Are you one of those weird, like... Divorce pop. Fans that has, like, opinions on the wives of the creators. Like, you have opinions on George Lucas.

She actually, like, edited Star Wars, Greg. She was, like, a high-octane film profession. It couldn't be a positive opinion. When Colleen brought it up, when Colleen brought it up that it was his wife, Mark visibly rolled his eyes because you had those facts and you were like, I have to get this out. He was wearing sunglasses. I did not roll my eyes. That was a nice note by Colleen. other news Washington command what is with the Washington commanders why is everything so messy with the Washington commanders defensive coordinator Jack del Rio apologized on Wednesday after he called the January 6th 2021 riots at the U.S. Capitol a quote dust up and I could throw the sound of Jack Del Rio explaining his thoughts and you if you want to seek it out read it and I'm not here to tell you what to think about.

about Jack Del Rio's comments because you already live in your respective echo chamber on this. But my bigger point is like, man, the Washington football team, even though they are getting ready, they're starting to get ready to take command. They also don't seem to ever get past the point of like being totally locked in on ball. And the organization is just distractions forever with this team. No, me and Jack Del Rio, have a hard out at 5 p.m. for the insurrection hearings today. So, like, I can't, we got to wrap this pot up soon. Yeah, it came from Del Rio's Twitter account, which is not the first time he's made news with his Twitter account. None of these opinions that he has are surprising coming from

him. And they're not that exceptional from NFL coaches. I would say more than not, there's more Jack Del Rios than not among NFL coaching. Now, they keep the opinions to themselves. and they don't go as hardcore because it creates a problem with your players that you might not really respect them that much when it comes down to it. And I think that's why he had to apologize. But it had some real repercussions already politicians in the Virginia area who were not too excited to help contribute public funds. We're saying, like, yeah, we're not contributing public funds to this commander's new stadium.

A, because Daniel Snyder is a billionaire and they're a mess, and we're bringing them up to the Congress in a couple weeks anyways. And B, because of this guy, Jack Del Rio. Now, they might just be using that as a convenient excuse. They probably weren't getting that money, but it's like Jack Del Rio stepped in. The fact that he had to apologize. He's being used as a puppet in political talks, which is whatever.

But that's part of the problem. It's like, you're the D.C. You're the defensive coordinator, dude. Pipe down. Get out of the way. Like, why are you bringing attention to yourself and creating this distraction for the team? Well, Virginia State Senator literally called his comments the nail in the coffin on those stadium talks.

Now, I agree. That's been politicized. But Jack Del Rio was overtly in writing against Colin Kaepernick's protests from 2016. Well, that's what this was about. That's what his comments were about. He was diminishing everything that happened two summers ago after George Floyd was murdered and saying like that the reaction to that, he was making an analogy to it. And I'm sure that's not going over well with a lot of his defensive play. Well, I think that ownership probably came to, someone came to Jack Del Rio and said,

you better apologize now, because you're not special enough at what you do to be walking around, trumping those comments around. All right. Let's move on. Finally, Darius Leonard will undergo back surgery, cult star linebacker, expected to return during training camp. They believe Leonard will be ready for the regular season. you may remember that Leonard is also recovering from an ankle injury that needed surgery.

So he's beat up, all pro linebacker. That's been just a linchpin of their defense for years now. You hope that he's going to come back 100% because the Colts will need him, Erica, at 100%. He's got to bring Erica back in the show. Darius Leonard. Yeah, no, I mean, I really, that was actually something in the next segment that I was going to talk about. I'm pretty gay for the Colts this year with Matt Ryan. and Pittman coming off his first 1,000-yard season.

Are you stepping on that one or you'll just skip this one? No, no, no, I got plenty. I got plenty of them. So I'm excited to see Matt Ryan in this Colts offense, and hopefully, you know, Leonard is there to contribute to, I think this is going to be a real upgrade for the team. Right. Dan was talking about how, like, he has these 20-minute-long text threads with Mark

where he complains about what level of news I'm bringing. And I thought about that before I threw in the Darius Leonard backstery, because we're not just doing every little injury, And I'm thinking, Dan's thinking, hey, we want to have fun at the PrideCast. Like, do we really need to talk about surgery? And it had to be like a high bar to get over it. And the fact that it's Darius Leonard and it's happening in June, no one wants to have June surgery.

That's a surgery you were trying to avoid. And it's your back. And it's coming off of an ankle surgery. This is their best offense to player. Nobody wants Michael Thomas surgery. Whatever they're saying, like, we hope he's ready for this season. He's probably not going to be ready for the season. Okay, so here's the thing.

The ankle, it was fixed. He had that surgery last June, and it lingered a little bit. The problem was he was not feeling functional movement in the ankle. So it's not like it was an ankle injury. Functional movement. Just the full functionality of the ankle wasn't there. So, I know, I did a little bit. How much comes from the spine?

How much comes from nerve? So that's what the back surgery is. What they're thinking is it was a nerve in his back that was causing the ankle to not have full functionality. So now hopefully it will all be good. Hey! He's going to miss some training camp guys, but he'll be back for the timetable officially as he'll be back for the start of the season.

He clears the bar easily because is he a top 10 most important player defensively in the AFC? Yeah. He was still like a first team all pro last year with the lingering ankle injury. Would you like to come on this guy gets it one of these weeks with that kind of analysis? I always thought they were just kind of like

fireside FDR chats. It's about a 30 second long pot. So she'd have about maybe eight seconds to wait like an NPR type clip i got it okay right i feel like you could be um i don't know if you want to go to medical school or whatever but there is an angle there i did want to be a neonatologist when i was little like a medical doctor expert when it comes to football stuff they use guys that aren't very good at it like that guy who got well women too barred that worked for the chargers yeah there's a few women can be doctors too just let's go yeah what did you want to be so i wanted to go to medical school and be a neonatologist which is like a baby a

baby doctor for like working the NICU or whatever yeah and then I was like anesthesiologist make how much money so then I went to that route then I went into sports and here I am at the NFL network Daniel just revealed that he he never went to like the neonatal thing he was too worried about the podcast he wasn't trying to look at the pictures of his let me know when the baby's a home I got to go make a football podcast I need a ride taking Uber that's what's happening in the news love you baby um all right first of all I want to apologize to my brother Kevin Danger Hanses now that he's here

we haven't brought him up once when I was a young man in my adolescence Kevin and I shared a bunk bed he was top bunk I was bottom bunk and you know the old Old Malcolm Gladwell theory, 10,000 hours is the magic number for greatness to like know how to get great at something, 10,000 hours.

To be an expert. To be an expert. For me, I gained my 10,000 hours throughout my adolescence and into my 20s listening to WFAN, the Sports Radio Titan in New York. And to get to that number, that required the clock. radio next to my bed playing overnights with Joe Beningo with the schmoozer Steve Summers and my brother

six years younger than me so I'm let's say I'm 15 he's nine he was subjected to WFAN his entire youth all the way until I went away to college

and I just want to use this platform Kevin I'm going to hand you the mic to apologize for putting you through that because I understand that it helped me get to the 10,000 hours and really in a lot of ways and I mean this sincerely.

I don't think I'm here right now if I wasn't that in love with the idea of sports talk radio but maybe it was at your expense and I just want to say I'm sorry and I love you. Dan, I'm proud of you where you are and I feel like we do that together

and that being said Sports Radio 66 the fan WFAA New York Every night Kevin Dangerhans us everybody Added the Counting Crows

Round here Okay that you should apologize for more I feel like 10,000 hours didn't get you anywhere The Counting Crows business But August and everything after I stand by the record And I feel like I have nothing to apologize That was so beautiful

As like in sync this I promise you Which I want to be my wedding song And Jet said absolutely not Was playing but you like apologize And I like felt emotional Like I really like that Maybe Counting Crows Yeah.

Like having you put a ring on it? Like, what's going on here? I know, I know. I was like, wait, aren't you married? And then I forgot. No, you just sort of act like an old married couple. She went away and came back without a ring. Right, right.

So now I'm the producer. Justin, let's not talk about the sanctity of marriage. Yeah. Okay. It means more to some than others. Yeah. Yeah. What you're up to over there.

Yeah. Tearing down the walls. No, I think in the next year. I think in the next year. I would not. I would not delay this. It's not an exciting story. It's not an exciting story.

She is getting her doctorate in physical therapy. She's in school and a three-year program. I just, I don't need to cut you off, okay? You're mansplaining here in the middle of my podcast. I need to tell you something. Don't wait. I need to tell you something. I got to talk to you.

Okay. If you are with somebody who's super hot as I was in my dating years. And amazing. And better than me. And still are. Yeah. And still remains. You've got to put a ring on it.

because if she meets some fancy, you know, lady doctor or whatever, if you don't get the ring on before that happens, it's a rap. You've got to get the ring. So you're saying I'm batting way out of my league, is what you're saying? I think you're hot and cool and funny and smart, but I would not, I would not mess around with this. But Jets's way better. Okay, listen to me. I would not mess around.

Jett said she does not want to be planning a wedding while in school. She said that if we get engaged in the next year, we can do a two-year engagement. How much of this are we cutting out? No, we can leave it all. We can leave it all. What Dan just said to Erica, let's keep it. This has been like the most anti-pride part of the episode somehow.

I don't know how. No, no, no. It's just keeping it real. We keep it real on the Pride case. I have the funds for the ring put aside. We are ready to go. She just wants a two-year engagement because of school. So by next year, we will be engaged.

Does Dan's analysis strike any fear in you, though, that maybe she would... Not a fear. No, no, no. She wants a two-year... Well, that's sort of sounded so much fearful. She doesn't want a long engagement, and she's in school for the next two years. So she's like, I cannot plan a wedding while I'm in school, getting her doctor with all those hot lady doctors. Where I came from, advice friend to friend, was that out of bounds, in your opinion?

I think that what I see happening here a little differently is that Erica is working with Jets' career and wishes to some degree versus, like, dropping an ultimatum by the time she gets home tonight, which could go south. I think ultimatums don't typically work with. I don't think your advice is misguided or it's coming from a good place. I just enjoyed your backpedaling and explaining to her why she's such a good catch. That was my favorite part of. You're hot and smart and talented and I love you. We all know.

Cute cards, backpedaling, cute cards. We all know. Smart. Funny. We all know I'm batting out of my league. And I'm trying my hardest to lock it down, I promise. I love you, Erica. I love you.

I'm going to miss you. She just, like, landed in the helicopter across the street, and that was the whole proposal right here on the podcast. I know. But maybe next year. You know, fun fact, I actually thought about when I first met her for the first time, Lakeisha was like, thank God you were with her because the last one was a total disaster. And then I even said, me and, me and Jett were talking one night that the perfect person that we would want to ask to marry us would have been Wes. Isn't that amazing? Yeah.

He would have been great. He would have been so good. And he thought Jet was better than me too But not Dan Greger Mark No Listen I don't I do not stand by this narrative Jet is better

She literally is No he's right She's right All right Before we take a break This is the Pridecast What are we doing After the podcast by the

We're gonna go to the abbey To where the male dancers are I'm gonna get Kevin a little loosened up You get danger loose Oh we're getting dangerous We're getting dipped into the culture Dippets in the culture, baby. Doused into the culture.

Anything could happen. Five years ago at the Super Bowl in Minneapolis, I pitched an idea about scuba diving and you guys making your picks in the aquarium at the Mall of America. And all the suits at NFL said yes. And you know who said no? Mark, I'm not taking my shirt off

and getting in that water. You're getting in the water today, big boy. That was a long time ago. My world has changed. I loved it. Also, I'm sure that story is half correct. That was a long time ago. my world has changed.

I'm thinking to that. No, because he's lost weight. He's wearing aviators. Yeah, he's going to do. I care about almost nothing at this point. Beach body. Yeah. He's not afraid to take up the shirt. I don't think it's about being afraid to take off a shirt. I think he's saying he fears nothing.

I just don't care. I also know probably the driving force behind that. And we would have shared Mark's opinion was like, we're not doing all that for something barely anyone's going to watch. That's much more where I was coming from. That was our beautiful. I remember it. Scuba diving shirt.

Hi, you guys were cutting fish, you did that. Remember at the aquarium? That was a hideous experience. And then who ended up on NFL Network because of their segments, okay? So, yeah, you can put me in your little tweet next time, Greg. They aired out on NFL Network? They did. You're welcome.

Let's pace ourselves with the airing of grievances. Before we take a break, it is the Pridecast. I would like to share my definitive straight cisgender power rankings of greatest queer icons. Oh, perfect. You guys interested? Yes. Please. Yeah.

Question mark, yeah. Of course, of course. If I'm not number one, I swear to God. Number five, Judy Garland. Okay. Classic. Thank you. Danger. Judy Garland, so iconic that once upon a time kind of slang for, if you're gay,

oh, she's a friend of Dorothy. Such an icon that, a new gay icon, at least to me, Rufus Wainwright, one of my favorite musicians. Like, does entire out. Just being Judy Garland and sells out big places doing that. There you go. It's still happening. He was on my also receiving votes list. So that's nice. I wouldn't have expected to make this more. She's also a TCM Turner Classic Movies Star of the Month. Check it out. Wow. My brother works for a basic cable channel. Number four. Gaga. Yeah. Let me say by the way you flag any of these if you don't think they're

good ones. Well, she's an ally. Right. She's not gay though. I mean, Well, let's not pull labels on things. That's true. She's an icon. She's married to a man. She's an icon. The icon in the eyes of that community. I get it, but in an ideal world, maybe you would, you know.

Don't tell about your ideal world. This is my list, baby. Isn't it a scale? Aren't we all gay, Greg? That's right. That's true. I told Colleen we're making out this weekend at the Pride Paragery. I think Erica said that on our episode last year.

I agree. We're all gay here. Okay. So stop judging my list based on what people's... Judgment free zone. Sexual preferences are. Number three, Freddie Mercury. Okay.

A man who never came out publicly. However, I mean, icon. For sure. And he didn't, yeah. For sure. Total icon. That's a good one. Number two.

Listen, I'm going to stand by this one, and it's maybe men of a certain age or people of a certain age. Madonna. Absolutely Madonna. Here's the thing about Madonna. Born in 1980. The only window I had to, queer culture as a like younger person that wasn't the

um stereotypical was played up for comedy was madonna and some of those videos and like her truth or dare documentary like she is you want to talk about allies people she gets a lot of shit now madonna what do you think yeah i agree totally she could have been number one she fluid fluidity to us at a time we didn't know number one he man What? Stupid. He-Man. No, what?

Go watch an app. I mean, I was sure you, just because it was you, we're going to go out and John. So He-Man's a much better choice. Yeah, much better. He-Man, number one. My basement was riddled with He-Man figures, and I can attest to what you're saying. I think that's accurate. Based on some comments through the episode today, it's all checking out.

Also receiving votes, John Waters. Shout-out cereal mom. Johnny Cakes from the Sopranos? No. No. A lot of Noges 6B. And Erica Tampos. Thank you.

I'm glad to have made the list. Also receiving votes. Well, you also received votes. You didn't actually make the list. That's true. Thank you. Neither did you, Mark. Let's take a break.

We'll be right back. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL cover zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see? the Colts Pretzel. That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh, my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining.

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Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. All right, welcome back. Here we go. Let's fly. Stuff we're gay for in 2022. Is this good? I love that. Yeah, I think it's great.

I do think that the community might look for the next list of, you know, gay icons have more gays and lesbians on the list. I don't want to hear Greg's like, who would you add to the list? It's like, why must Greg course correct? Literally everything that occurs on the same. I'm just adding that as. something you think about this you got a little no card in front of you i would love i'm not coming up with any list i want your list don't judge another man's list

it's the tiniest thing i've ever seen in my life i don't like there's only like six words how can you even read this that's what he's like one through five rufus waynwright we'll be right i mean how do you not have rupal on there take that i'm just saying yeah how do you not have ruPaul it's like the five greatest civil rights leaders and it's like five white guys Oh, my God. Dan, I thought... Is it all out of you yet? Dan, you put a lot of professional effort into that,

and I appreciate. I think we all appreciate outside of one of us what you came up with. I appreciate it. I'm just taking the piss out of it. This is the podcast right here. Come from behind the bullproof glass and join us on the show.

All right, let's get into it. He's Googling, like, um, gay icons. People of color that are gay, you don't know. Oh, no. You're doing something much more boring. Let's get into it. What we're gay for in 2022. NFL style.

Or maybe not NFL style. We're having fun. Connie. Yeah. And I just noticed your shirt. This is the one I wore last year. It's awesome. So it's like the annual PrideCast shirt.

When we were all on our way here, Dan pointed out that it was basically the same thing that happened last year. Beat for beat. Mark got here early. I was stuck in traffic. I don't know what else was. It was you and Dan were late. Family members. Yeah, you were stuck in traffic.

I was sort of in the middle, like, slightly late, but not meaningfully. I appeared 41 minutes early. I was, I also ordered my food ahead of time because I was starving, you know. Look at you. And you're going to leave early, too, which you did last time, right? I mean, it is, yeah. I'm not leaving early. Greg, you, hang out with this. My, it's my kid's final day of school, and I have other parents.

It's also my last week of that. I have other parents taking them to this beach event afterwards. But at some point, someone's got to go get that. Greg is the guy who had kids to simply get out of social constructs and arrangement. Dan, how did you just notice the shirt? I would rather hang out with them than you, so I'm not even... You weren't wearing this earlier. It's the loudest shirt that's ever been a shirt.

Yeah, as we started, I did a wardrobe change. You've got rainbow popsicles on there. I like that. There's unicorns. There's love is love. I don't know, human bolts. There's a lot of things happening. All right, here we go.

Okay, I'm ready. Connie. Yeah. Get us going. Okay. What are you gay for in 2020? In 2020. tweet deck and Wes's lists that are on tweet deck because

I heard that tweet deck is going away and I don't know how to save his lists and I live and die by Wes's list. Wait a second. Wait, it's going away? It's the only way I watch games. I have an NFL beatwriters. I have an NFL national.

I have every single division that he put together. I have the same thing. And I specifically watch games and bring the lists over so I can see them. Now, John told me that there's some type of hack. I didn't follow. I'm not really sure what it is. I need your help, listeners.

How do I save these lists? Because I need them, and I want them because I feel like every time I go on tweet deck, it's still like a little connection to West. I'm gay for the lists. And I need them in my life. I love that. I think our listeners will know a solution.

Because I'm sure there's a tweet deck equivalent out there that maybe you can somehow transfer. I don't know anything, but I bet they'll come with it. Could they got... I guess it's still around right now. It's working right now. Man, that's a heartbreaking.

Wes would also meticulously update those all throughout the off season every year. And when he first arrived at the NFL, you know, you'd work shifts together. It'd be as a Saturday where he's like, bro, like, let me send you all these, like, various lists. And like 20 minutes later when I'd uploaded his 19 division by division, beat writer by beat writer, long form NFL article, tweet deck form. It's like, I suddenly was an organized flogger. know what I was doing before that. He did the same thing, too, with RSS feeds back in the day when that is, like,

where we look to find news in old school internet. Read later, that website as well. I feel like Wes introduced me that, where you can kind of a list of bookmarks of, like, interesting things when you're in the middle of the shift, and then you go back and read it. Oh, that's like Pocket. I think Pocket is probably the same thing. All right. That's good.

Everybody shout out. Yeah, let me know. On Twitter, at Colleen Wolf with tweet deck. replacements. All right. Let me get a football one out there. I'm gay for Baker

comeback season. Ooh. I'm all the way in. In light of recent events, I've always thought Baker was interesting. But maybe flawed as a quarterback, right?

Talks a lot, gets himself in trouble. They're not bad trouble. But he's a, as you know, Mark, charismatic and we used to talk about it in the uh like sam darnal never said anything but at least at least baker was interesting you know and he puts himself out there now we're in a situation where here's my dream scenario yeshawn watson has suspended the entire season as he should be

a couple of them indefinitely yeah you could hit him with that the browns reach out to bit hang on annual tradition like sirens going by They're like this take is so hot We're preemptively sending ambulances in the fire department Hose down the stake Out of Boys Town It's a paddy wagon Yeah they're like come on boys

Deshawn Watson suspended the entire season The Browns is the dream scenario Reach out to Baker And they get rebuffed In vulgar fashion Right They're like Baker and his reps are like

Get the hell. Well, Volga, get the fuck out of my face, okay? I am going somewhere else that's not here. Cleveland, aware it has no moves left to play, releases the former number one overall pick. Now we need a little good fortune to come in, whether it's with one of these teams we keep connecting them with. Seahawks or Seattle or Carolina, or a team,

let's say, it's going to be crazy here, New Orleans, a team that's good and has a starter. but maybe could upgrade a backup quarterback and opens a window for him if something happens. Lands in a good place, gets an opportunity, and enjoys his best season, while the Browns wallow in the mud on the field and off. The Browns who soured on Baker Mayfield because, according to people inside the building, they wanted an adult in the room. Well, you found a different adult, so go sit on that, Cleveland.

but I would love to see that I hard root for Baker at this point. Like, wherever he goes is going to be a candidate for the team that I'm most plugged in on. He will land somewhere at some point. And I think he's a perfect setup for a comeback player of the year. Because, yes, I think he got on your nerves at times, Dan. And I think he got on a lot of people's nerves. But his level of annoying is so different than some of these other athletes out there that are doing harm and creating issues.

Baker Mayfield deserves to land with a team and start swinging his sword. I think the situation that he's in right now And based on the things that have happened in the past with him He kind of went from one end of the spectrum to the other Because it felt like he was You know, just popping off a little too much about stuff And airing a lot of grievances And maybe saying things that should have just

To talk a little bit less, yeah A lot of house I mean the ads are part of it too But now seeing the situation that he's in I think that a lot of people, a lot more people are behind him and would root for him to be a comeback player of the year, to come back

and absolutely destroy everyone. They would be behind him. That would be the best story ever. Like, I would love that personally. I don't know, man. I mean, he was like the guy that brought out, brought out, like, the anti-Vax All-Stars when he was, like, looking for any other NFL player

that actually liked him enough to, like, work out with him instead. Right, why are you so against me in this episode? Why is that against me? Yeah, I'm saying like, I don't know if he's got a lot of support within the NFL. I think fans, I think he's a compelling character. This is the all-time contrarian take from Greg. Are you talking? Like, literally the whole story in Cleveland is that clearly when the locker room was divided,

which I don't really believe all this stuff. If he was good enough, he would have been good enough. But like, the whole OBJ Baker thing, it's a rap. Like, they were fans of OBJ. He was a great teammate. like there wasn't a lot of that for baker like he has to work on he's talked about it that he has to work on like getting the trust of other NFL players i think he's much better though at this point than people kind of remember because his highs are very high as lows are low but you could see him having big time highs again the context of my commentary right i was just talking about colina i don't even remember what you said at this point it would really stick it to his soon-to-be former team if he thrived in a new environment I'm eliminating some of the other stuff. It's not like Baker's an underdog.

I was just responding to Colleen that like he's going to be the people's champion. And I think he's a divisive guy and he always will be. Like he's got some Jack Del Rio comments out there too in his past. So I think there's going to be a segment that always. Strike what I said from the record. Never mind. And there's going to be a segment that aren't. All right.

I think I hope the listeners understand my angle on that. But yeah, I was just talking to Colleen. Let's go non-NFL. You mentioned the Celtics. I'm picking so much heat. The Celtics before. I think like with sports, you get like what you put in to the experience of being a fan. And I haven't like, I am so gay for this Boston Celtics season.

Yes, let's go. Season six. Really the last three years. It was the pandemic that did it for me. And then me and the kids got super into the bubble. And sports are fun. And I never mind like bandwagon fans. Like Bandwagon fans are great because they're not going to get the same enjoyment that the people that have been watching every game, whether it's just that season or the people that have been watching every game for 20 seasons, you really like get out what you want to put into it.

And I have enjoyed this NBA season so much. Like me as a family, we've watched like three quarters of the games together, at least part of it. Like every playoff game, it's fun experience with them. And it's nice that it's not the NFL. You, Dan, get on me about the Patriots. like that I'm not really a Patriots fan anymore. And there is some truth to that. It's not the same.

Like, you're at work. Like, it's distracting. I love football, but I just love it in a different way. I love, like, the players and different teams and rooting for things. And I don't feel the same sort of thing about my team of Patriots. There's still the team I root for more, but it's not that, like, thing that makes you feel like a kid where you're just down to rise and fall with whatever happens.

And then to go through that with your, kids and see them to start going through it and stuff is just so awesome so and just also the chance greg for the new england region to experience another championship would be well i think that's true we've had a cut it's been 10 years for years here well the celtics have only won one in my like four long years in new england in fairness the celtics have only won one since i was eight years old so i'm just i felt like they've been rolling up titles um but you're right the boston region doesn't have a national standpoint are they the most unlike But I don't count that.

I was six, seven years old. Oh, come on. Dan, your rebuttal to everything that Greg just said. My rebuttal, I feel bad that you were offended about Baker. I was responding to Colleen. I wasn't even thinking about it. Everything that Greg says, I think that's great. I know exactly what you're talking about, Greg.

That is, like I'm watching, everyone knows, listens to this podcast, knows I'm a huge baseball fan. The Yankees are 40 and 16, which is awesome. And we'll see how the season plays out down the end. And the Yankees are no ones, just like the Celtics. No one's idea of an underdog franchise, but it was something I grew up loving, and my boys have fallen in love with baseball and watching baseball with me. It's different. And I think it's like when you work in sports, I love the Jets just as much as I did when I started the company, but it is different.

And once you are in the company, it's different. Once you're working in the league and covering the sport, it's different. So finding that other sport where you have no connection to it professionally, It almost makes it more rewarding and more fun to watch. Can I just ask real quick while we're on baseball corner why the Angels decided to play nickelback for every single player that went to the plate? They were on, and I don't know what happened with the Red Sox and Angels yesterday, but they were on a 12-game losing streak. So they had fired their manager. And it's like one of the reasons I love baseball is like weird stupid things to try to change the tide.

So they played like the worst rock band in the last 25 years. for every walkup to just try to, like, change the vibe. They lost and didn't score a run. Again? But when they did the nickelback thing, yeah. Oh, my goodness. So they're down. Well, I would have never, you don't pick nickel back.

But, you know, the Detroit Lions, Mark, famously we covered it around the league way back in the day. The Detroit Lions once hired Nickelback to do a halftime show on Thanksgiving. So people have been making these mistakes for a long time. I'll throw one out there. This is a projection. I'm more hoping this happens. the last two seasons have kind of sucked butt for a number of reasons. Literally, hey!

Well, Corona, right? Like, I'm super gay for the concept of a season. I actually are going to be part of every show as, like, the gay pun. Like, so we could just be, like, style in remote. Yeah, that's it. Gay punsman. You're like stat boy except for gay puns. Mark, sorry to interrupt, but she really came in strong on that one.

I am super gay for the idea of a season. we're not tracking Corona week by week and having like key players dropped out of the mix and having games on Wednesday night. I mean, last year got us a lot closer to that and I am guaranteeing that the pandemic never returns right now. Whoa.

Oh my God. Wow. That's a bar hot take right there. That's amazing. All right. What do you got for that, Greg? Nothing. Well, monkey pox has sort of been I mean, that's that trying. to be a contrarian take i'm just i'm giving the people my opinion it just happens that i always

disagree with you but you're on you're on board with that opinion i like that i like i mean i like the hopefulness of it and i'm i'm for that that's a good one you want a football one i got whatever you got whatever you want so colin you're going to have to brace yourself for this uh-oh but i'm actually gay for the eagles in 2022 yeah me too and i've been i'm sure but i've been very obviously didn't really Didn't really care about the Eagles as a Patsman. And that's the Pats Homer and me. Once they beat us in the Super Bowl, us being the Patriots, I have made it my mission to make sure that they suffer.

And I don't like it. But looking at everything, all the hypes out of your mission. Wait, what kind of impact would you say you've had? Yeah. What have you done? Give me an action step. I've been giving batteries to fans as they go into the stadium. No, this is so old.

Stop. The Santa Claus is booing. And the JD Drew throwing batteries. I didn't know anything about Philly sports fans until I met John and Connie. And they're crazy. And now I've learned if you really want to get them upset, you bring up the batteries.

Oh, throw batteries. Oh, boo Santa. And they get so mad. I will lunge across this table right now and strangle both. But listen, as unfortunate, you know, I'm taking a step back and I, and as Greg always tells me to be a professional,

don't just think about the Patriots. The Jalen hurts. Have I ever said that? You have multiple times, actually. So the Jalen Her type is real coming out of mini camp, right? Devonza Smith coming out. Thank you, Justin. Nailed it.

Hey, he had his. Oh, are you replacing Erica as the gay pun on Bugsman too? I guess that's fine. Well, I guess it makes sense. Someone's got to say something, right? So Devonza Smith had his breakout season last year, right? Now they add A.J. Brown to the list. Oh, and also let's add Bradbury next to.

Slay on the D. I am excited. Sean Kelly is pumping his fist and I can actually do a vodka soda. Hustan Redick. I'm excited to see this Eagles team this upcoming year and I feel proud of myself for feeling. Can I ask you a personal connection with Nick Siriani. Right. We love him. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. As you leave the NFL, Ricky. Yeah. What will be your like how plugged in will you be on the league of 32? I think I'll still I'm such a passion With all due respect

You didn't really know much about football When you started You came to the company As a Patriots fan Yes And then you spent what Six years, seven years? Yeah

When you exit the League of 32 company Do you imagine you'll go back More to your viewing habits As Patriots fan Or do you think now you'll take this with you And just be more into the league of 32? Yeah, that's interesting I think I'll definitely be plugged in.

I think my whole Twitter feed is everyone. I'm really, I'm never going to not be a Patriots fan ever, and that's never going to change. Mac Daddy's looking good in camp, too. He's looking pretty thick, too, by the way. Oh, my God, he lost a little weight, and he's, like, beefed up. Oh, it's so good. Bill Belichick playing center.

Hello, Daddy. Like, let's go. Zaddy. Daddy. So I'm excited about the Pat. I'm also L.A., you know, person. I'll probably be plugged in on the L. teams just by living here

but you know totally I don't know yeah Connie give us one more okay do you want super NFL or my like

where your heart is where's your heart you can do them quick you have more than one you like well okay so I am like I'm feeling gay for two running backs this season Cam Acres and

Javante Williams like for Acres I'm just excited for him to actually be 100% healthy and himself because he had the injury, came back miraculously for that regular season finale and through the playoffs. But like, he didn't play his best in the playoffs. He still wasn't the same. So I feel like McVeigh loves him.

He's going to be great for that offense. I think he's going to do really well. But Javante Williams, like, that's my making the leave candidate gang. I'm with you on that. two things going against him last year. The fact that they didn't have a quarterback, so defenses never, never respected the pass. And then also he was splitting carries with Melvin Gordon,

which can't continue. Like, I would imagine that Jamante, they see how talented he is, and they give him the lion's share of the work. But even just PFF, looking at his mistackles, the force mistackles he had last year, 63 of them, that was second to only Jonathan Taylor, who had the most in the league, 66,

and you think about all the work that Jonathan Taylor had last year. He had 129 more carries than Javante Williams. Javante Williams is going to be a beast if they let him be a beast. Beast. So totally gay for them. I'll steal that for making the leap. Okay.

That's a great one. That's a great observation. Can I make a tape? I did NFL stuff this morning. I'm exhausted now. It makes me think about like early period Nick Chubb. Yeah. Where, not that they're the same player, but like,

let's go. This guy's super talented dude. And, you know, he kind of was breaking through. But what if he was made the feature guy, what would happen? And now you put him in a better situation. Yeah. Fantasy hats. And we got the fantasy extravaganza coming up in a couple months.

I feel like he's going to be, Gregi, you built it brick by brick, roto world. Javante Williams. Is he a top? 20 pick? No. Well, you could probably check it out there. They've been doing these best ball drafts.

I doubt it. No, but I'm asking. No, brick by brickman. No, because Melvin Gordon's there. Melvin Gordon's great. I mean, great is maybe an exaggeration, but very, very good. So why wouldn't you feature him a lot? You get them both for fantasy.

Isn't there a big difference between those two guys, though, in terms of their ceiling? Yeah, but I think I'm someone. Would you handcuffs them? Most running backs, he is getting taken in the top 20 there, Dan, 15. I would not. I would not want him because I think. Evan Silva would like come back to a little bit. I think Melvin Gordon, like people just want to think he's not a good player,

but he's good on all three downs. He's good in short yards. He's good on third down. Like, you should, I'm sort of of the mind. You should always use multiple running backs if you have them, if you can. I think you're tapped into something psychic clear, honey. Yeah. I'm with you and I think it's going to occur.

I mean, how many not to devolve into fantasy conversation, but it does feel like so many backfields are two-headed now. Right. The fact that he's still going top 15 is pretty telling. Too-headed. Yeah, exactly. It tells you that there is, what, what is, Ombudsman pun?

It's fine. Just keep it pushing. Keep it proven. Well, you can't do like inside joke laughs with a microphone in your mouth. I was telling the mark. I'm sitting like a foot from her and hearing every little comments, and I'm, you said two-headed. The mic is hearing everything, too. Don't worry.

Oh, okay. That's what I, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, two-headed. monster in the backfield I think that's good to have on let's see what else I got here that's a good one though Connie that was a good football one

I did it I did it because we haven't really talked about him right Mark famously was really exciting and kicked off our segment here last year by talking about Gio Bernard's role on third downs and I asked Mark this week

because we had already kind of went back in memory lane about this and I'll ask you here like how was Gio Bernard's experience for you as a fan because you were so excited going into it. How was it? So fluid that situation. I mean, I think it's totally delivered in every possible way. I don't know why there be

any question about that. It was... Wait, has Mark had any? Wait, you had one only. Yeah, so memorable. Greg has no concept of the mirroringet. All right, where do I want to go with this? Let's see. Here's my list. Baker comeback season. I have... All the jets are hot now.

Literally? The Athletic reported that Mike Lafleur, according to Robert Sala is way more jacked this year after spending the offseason in the gym Wow You was already pretty jacked

Yeah How is that not a trope So now we have That is one No Now we have Quarterback went from 202 to 221 Shredded

We got the head coach Who's basically Like one of the hottest dudes alive And then you have Even the OC One of the hottest dudes alive What? You don't think so Salah?

I mean that's a tightest dude's alive bar they're one of the high Robert Sal is top 10 hottest men alive well if no that is so not accurate it's eye of the beholder if they play like they did last season maybe you know and it doesn't work out they can come here and sort of have like a all mail review or something

there's probably 14 hotter guys on this boulevard all the jets need now all the just need now is for Eric Decker to come out of retirement and it's the hottest team ever anyway but that's not where I'm going let's see Josh McDaniel's new Zaddy voice. Oh, love it.

You guys plug in on this? Do we have that, Graver? I have it. All right, let's hear the new Zaddy voice. This isn't coming directly from Josh, but it's from who is it, Graver? Brandon Bolden speaking on Wednesday. Oh, on how Josh McDaniels has changed

as someone who used to be in New England, Brandon Bolden, and now he's like, oh, when he was the O.C., and now he's the head coach. The same? He just says it a little more stern now. It's like if you was getting babysitted by your older brother and now the parents are nowhere at home,

you're stuck with your big brother for the weekend. It's kind of like that. It's amazing. Wow, that is great. And I was going to say, because I'm the big brother. You're just looking around for danger. You've lost your little brother. We have lost, in fairness.

You guys have a meeting place in case you get separated? He's got. He's gone. Danger's been up to the bar about five times, but now I don't even see him up at the bar. Also, I will say when I went to the bathroom here, in the mirror, it's carved danger. I swear to God.

Listen, he's been killing time. He must have been here earlier. So you guys, because I knew you guys have done a lot of pushback on me about Mike McCarthy's Zaddy Energy, which I'm all in on. But now I'm saying Zaddy Energy for Josh McDaniels, you guys buy on this. 100%. 100%. He literally got the keys to the organization. He's walking around making, you know, the tuck rule jokes and all that.

He thinks he's the hottest thing ever. And I kind of buy it. I don't know. I feel like if it needs to be pointed out. that you're suddenly speaking with a more stern voice and you're being told that you're just an older brother while the actual parents are away. Like, it feels a little ironic to me

that maybe he's not a total zaddy checking out 100% of Zaddy. Maybe Brandon Bolden was just like making a joke to reporters and like we're going to, we don't need to dissect everything that they say. Mark, your take, I'm locked in on a little bit. But I also want to give Josh, you know, we're giving a shot here to clean up some things. It's been a little sloppy. Oh, I'd welcome the transformation.

I'm just saying that the way that it was phrased kind of has some qualifiers to it. Right. Like he's trying to play the part rather than actually is. Like he hasn't spoken with a stern voice in 49 years, but suddenly now he's in a new role and he's changing his voice. It's like I can think of another coach that went south and changed their voice and took a lot of flack for it on the college level. I like McDaniels. Wait, who, wait, what? Better Dame, Brian Kelly.

What other coach? Brian Kelly, who goes down and suddenly adopts a country accent. You were just going to leave that? I think most people know what I'm referring to. Yeah, I'm with you. Mark's not taking any shit today. I like it. I love it.

You're talking about Brian Kelly when he took the job. He had a like a fake sounder accent. LSU. He left Notre Dame and then he was like from the bayou. He was like a big southern drawl out of nowhere. He adopted on the plane ride south. Like any time that anyone calls you out for like changing your voice or like being something that you're not is not good. Are we talking about Russell Wilson again?

I'm going to throw one out just because you're talking like the jets being hotter and more fit and I will show some of my fandom here that I'm gay for Mack and I'm gay for this totally bizarre Patriots offseason that everyone's hating now it's like gone on so long that I'm countering that the fact that supposedly at practice they're doing all this zone run blocking stuff and that they're like out of of nowhere adopting like a Kyle Shanahan type Sean McVeigh offense, which apparently Bill Belichick's wanted to do forever, but like now there's no guardrails. It's just like Bill gone wild. Like when Josh McDaniels and Nick Casero and everyone else were like, well, we didn't really

have the personnel to do that and, you know, we're doing this and that. Now it's like Bill's doing whatever the fuck he wants. He's snapping the center. He's putting Patricia as the play caller. He's trying to be like Sean McVeigh on offense. He's got this underrated second year quarterback. And it all just seems like messy in a way that the Patriots never are, but I'm embracing the mess. I'm gay for it. I think that's more Zaddy than Josh McDaniel's changing his voice.

Bill Belichick is in gigantic DGAF mode. Right, exactly. I do kind of enjoy it from a certain angle. Gigantic. He's like his longtime spouse. No, this isn't the truth here. But let's just say he had a longtime spouse. He has a girlfriend.

We love Linda. But let's say that didn't happen. and where maybe he's embracing new frontiers. Maybe he comes here for the Pride episode. And at 70, he realizes to live the way he wants to live. Go Shanahan. You know what I'm saying? That's a good take because it's way better than the alternative, isn't it?

Right. Right. But I'm kind of here for it. Even if it's super messy and it goes, like, horribly, I kind of, it'll be different. It'll be different. The bill fell off, right? It's out there as a possibility. But he's got this kid.

Scott Mack Jones, who I truly do believe in, has a much higher ceiling than anyone seems to want to give him credit for, that he could be a top 10 quarterback this year, that he could be the next, you know, very good quarterback. Let's go Mac. One of us. They're playing Sharon Asborn up in this place. This was a big song in, you know, around the NFL history because we were once all, maybe we all weren't there, but we were at the lesbian bar in Indianapolis with the wrestling

brothers. Oh, good call. And we were just going to guess what's the next song that is going to be played? And I put down... Man, I feel like a woman? This one. No, I put this one down. It was a karaoke, a lesbianic, lesbianist. What if God was one of us? Joan Osborne, the next fucking song, I take all that money. Greg is loose, and we are not legally about

allowed to gamble at the NFL network. And I'm drinking water, to be real. Well, at least it wasn't at a league event. That's true. That's true. Well, why were we in Indiana? No, it was a league of it. Mark, what else do you got, Mark? I have a personal one that I am very gay for swimming for aquatics. Like, I just joined a pool, and I went swimming yesterday for the first time, like, in a lap pool in probably, like, 20-something years. And it was very full, but it was me.

And, you know, you have to share the lane with another person. It was a man who was, like, 88 years old and going, like, one mile an hour. So I kind of felt bad because I kept, like, I destroyed him. But it was like, I think I have. found the thing that I want to do with my body for the next like couple of months. I love it. There is something, there is a pattern emerging mark with you in secondary sports where you come on our show and you explain you are at an event and then you dominated everyone else that

was there and there's never any other video or any other evidence out there and we take you on it because you're not a dishonest man. Well, the first example was I destroyed my nine-year-old in tennis. Do you not find that feasible? I mean, it's like, he had never, he'd played twice. No, your wife was involved, as I recall. You just remember the entire family. She cannot compete with me on a tennis sport.

I'm merely pointing out that some of these exploits don't have a lot of, they're not cited with any evidence. What do you want me to do like the swim thing where you wear a cap and everyone does the same motions? I want you in a speedo. We'll come to the YMCA. I think for the people that love swimming, it's almost like a religion. It's very peaceful. It's probably good for mental health. It's good for your body, certainly, those swimmer's bodies.

You know, Don Draper in Manhattan? And then more, I mean, this is where the gay odd budd's been should step in. But this is asking for a lot. The swimmer is maybe one of the most and definitely one of the gayest short stories in American literature history. When they teach you short stories, they start with the swimmer by John Cheever, who is a gay icon. He's on my top five list. Well, I think that book needs a sequel. We only have two.

We need three more. I don't know. Rufus, Rufus. Wow. I think, yeah, that's, that was great. That was, I'm not a loss for work. I have a Marchand bomb here.

Marshawn bomb? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe this isn't a bomb. Maybe you guys know this already. He better not be coming out of retirement or retiring. There were, there, yeah. Jason Garrett will replace Drew Breeze on NBC's NFL pregame show.

Oofa. It's like, I, I love these Triscuits that I, bought plain not like the ones with the sprinkles on I'm just plain triscuits but I want something different yeah they have triscuits with lots of different flavors but you know olive oil right exactly garlic whatever wait so he's in the studio but it's like I don't want I don't main triscuits I want to change it up I'll get the mini triscuits you know that's what I'll do mini trinket I don't understand this analogy you get it's like you're placing wonder bread with with another type of white bread he's not like he's not the booth though

No, he's in, I don't care as much about the studio. Just for football night in America or something. Okay, all right, well. Yeah. That's a good update. I thought he said Marshawn. He reported it. He reported it.

I thought he meant Marshawn Lynch. Oh, no. Yeah, me too. A photo with the cleats on the wire, like at the Super Bowl in San Francisco. Poor West had to stop down, stop watching the Super Bowl and write like a 600-word breaking news item on Marshaun Lynch coming back into the game. By the way, breaking news, this from PFT. who was called out by name twice, by the way, by Jack Del Rio, which that was my favorite part of the Jack Del Rio press conference,

how he disagreed with Mike Floreo. Oh, no. Greg, you have much to settle with your old boss, and that'll be an off-season podcast. Well, this one I loved. I know he loved it, so. According to Commander's head coach, Ron Rivera, he said on Wednesday that he really likes Carson Wednesday,

This is command of our offense. Stop it. That didn't happen. No. Really? He's getting ready because he believes that he can. He just might, if we all pull together, be ready to take command. As we all know, decided to really go ahead and start to take command.

You know, after all the other stuff we talked about earlier in the show, I'm all the way back in now. Sure, arrow up. Arrow up on the commanders. Can I throw out one more thing? I'm gay for it. If anything, just because I meant to tell Mark this, and I'm just using this podcast to give him a recommendation, I think he'd like, because he likes Mike, you're a big Michael Mann guy.

Yes, I like Michael Mann. Okay, the first episode of Tokyo Vice. What do they call the first episode? Why am I blank? Pilot. Pilot. The pilot of Tokyo Vice, directed by Michael Mann. He is the executive producer.

It's set in the 1990s underworld in Tokyo. and just the scene, the show is a lot of fun. I would recommend it to everyone. He doesn't direct every episode. He is an executive producer. But the show puts you in Tokyo. It made me want to go to Tokyo. I will be going in a couple weeks.

Shout out to Hadeco Watanabe for getting a lot of paperwork. They still haven't opened up the country, so I've got to get a visa. Whenever Greg suggests a book to me, it's been a home run. Shows very similar, and so I'll watch it. man also has been busy at work creating and writing heat to the novel so that's another one to put on your radar but i think you would like the show too i'm gay for tokyo advice it's fun it's fun that's good that's been on my list to get to it feels like there's so much stuff there's so much out now yeah that it's almost too much it's like they got to figure it out the uh the entertainment god

and ascente they got to dial it back a little bit they have to figure out like pacing just like Too saturated. The old networks used to be like, you know what you're getting. You're getting original content from September to May and then a break. And then you could catch up on reruns and all that stuff. We need to figure this out now for the digital world, the streaming wars. It's a barrage. And then their move, and maybe this is just interference they're running.

It's like, then you must sign up for everything to catch up. And then all of a sudden you're like dropping 20 grand, you know, a year on streaming services. You guys got it. I take. What was that? Greg's checked out of the show, by the way, and he's starting to eat the rest of his same. That was my last thing that I was gay for. Is it true that Greg was flaunting his wealth on the latest episode of the Jeslinik

Rosenball show? I really wasn't. I don't know why. She said, no more, definitely less than playing a backing music, money, money, money, money, money. It came up. I didn't do anything. All I said, it was like, oh, it was great. It was great to finally get a nice bump.

It wasn't too crazy. I think you use the words, like, now I'm paying. like a player finally is that true no are you sure i said i'm not played i was like saying kind of like when players talk about like that's a big day in their lives when they get a contract when they make not that not that i'm paid like a player okay can we borrow your credit card i wish yeah are you picking up the tab here at rock list sure all right let's let's let's let's let's like greg eat his uh rap let's wrap let's wrap it up yeah how long There's a show I really have to be. Wrap it up.

What is, yeah. One hour, 32 minutes right now. What is, uh, any scoreboard for the, uh, gay pun, um, budsman, like who had the most, who? I think you, you probably did unintentionally. Unintentionally. Um, which was good. No, I think it was a good showing all around. I think everyone really stepped up to the plate.

Fun. The second annual pride cast for the around the NFL podcast is in the books. A lot of fun. Keep doing it. Eric, you're no longer going to be with the company. in a couple days, but will you continue to come and visit us from time to time if your new employer allows it? Yes, I would absolutely love it. And I'm super thankful and grateful for the last, you know, however, it's been so long at the NFL. And without you guys and without you guys

all pushing me to do more, I wouldn't be getting offered these opportunities that I am right now. And so I am truthfully, forever indebted and love you guys more than my more than words could say. We love you too. Super gay. Go get what you deserve. Right, and we aren't allowed to say where you're going next. No.

But it certainly seems like you're going to absolutely destroy the position that you've been presented with. And I mean that in a good way, obviously, not take it down. Do you buy it, Mark, I feel like we're maybe of similar minds. The Sam Darnold's corollary here, we want her to get to a certain level. I don't know if we were of similar minds where if she were to be successful that it would keep me up at night. the same way that I think it might keep you up at night. I don't know if I buy that. To your own words.

To your own words. Erica, do you want to announce it and bleep it? I mean, what would the point be? I don't know. It might just feel good. Right, everyone knows. But, yeah. No, I am going to be.

Oh. Amazing. Why? This is so great. That's a huge mistake. I know, I know, I know, I know. I know, so I'm going to be great at it. Thank you.

I'm super, super excited and blessed and grateful, but it wouldn't be without you guys. It's awesome. So happy to have you here, Ricky. Thank you to everybody in the house, including Randy Chavez, the gravedigger, Sean Kelly, just on bodyguard duty today, definitely getting paid by the NFL to just stand in West Hollywood at a bar. And I love that. Any thoughts, Sean Kelly? I just want to say thanks guys

I love being a part of this Gay for all of you guys and just this is an amazing podcast and I'm blessed every day to be a part of it. Oh, we love Sean Kelly. Oh, and also Colleen told me I had to say this Go Birds best team in the NFL. There we go. There we're in telling us body on fire by the way.

Kevin Danger Hansis Yes, we've talked about the WFAN situation but maybe revisit Mark and I know we'll be on the same page on this August and everything after not just the singles Omaha Rain King

Murder of One Sullivan Street Absolutely Maybe Kevin Your thoughts Let's go New York Rangers And also Erica Tamposi

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