NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 40s and Free Agents: Ranking the Defensive Free Agents

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

Daniel Jeremiah and Gregg Rosenthal are breaking down and ranking the top defensive free agents heading into the offseason. From elite edge rushers to lockdown defensive backs, we evaluate the biggest names set to hit the market and discuss who can make the biggest impact next season.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome back to 40s and Free Agents with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal. If you are watching us on YouTube, you will note that DJ's name for the first time goes first. Congratulations. That is the payoff for winning our Super Bowl picks. So now finally, you're on top of the call sheet, DJ, a big milestone for you. Yeah, top billing. I'll be honestly, it was, you know, it was something that it wasn't part of my goals.

It wasn't something I was striving to do. Just when you put your head down, you work hard, you don't pick stupid teams, you know, good things happen. That's kind of what my coaches just always tell me. Probably most people are listening are like me before I realized that my name was versus like, how was Jeremiah's name not first the whole time? He's the host of, you're the host. You're the host of the NFL draft. He's got the social pop. But the difference is it's my. my season. It's free agency season, at least for this episode. So look, we got the top 101 free agents. It's coming out later this week, early next week,

right before the combine starts. So we're going to do a big combine preview and put that up next week. But this week, we're going to have DJ do something that he wouldn't do for me as a friend. So I'm only going to do it, you know, he's only going to do it for me as a co-host, which is he's going to help me on my top one of a last. over email, to be honest, kind of a big ask. And I didn't see who all the other people you sent it to. So it's like, well, wait, is he sending this to 50 people? I know. What am I going to do? I'll let the other 49 people do that. You know, I got a lot of on. It was just like five or six people. People I consider the most elite ball knowers in the business. And I just send them my 101. It's some people with teams. It's some people in the media. People don't want their names out there.

And just like, if anyone stands out to you, it's a little market correction. Tell me who you think is too high or too low. So our exercise today, we're going to go through the defensive side. Because me and you, we've already talked about the offensive side. And you can just give me your thoughts, if anyone's too high or too low, or just about these players in general. And I'll go through them position by position. Let's start at the edge where there's good depth. There's always pretty good depth at edge in free agency,

where you can find a guy at the end of the list that can give you 400, 500 good snaps. But at the top of the list, it's very intriguing. I have four guys in my top 10 overall right now. I have Jalen Phillips actually ahead of Trey Hendrickson. So I'm curious what you think about that. But I will say the other two guys in my top 10. I really battled between Adafé Owe and Boe-Mafé, who would go first there? Ultimately, I don't think it's that important.

It's kind of different flavors. And I think they're both really good free agents to be available if they do not get franchise tech. They are nine and ten right now on my soft list. Phillips, I have third overall Hendrickson's just behind them. That first big group, we can go through them, player. by player, but I'm curious for your thoughts on the order. Yeah, I like it. To me, like, here's an interesting question. And as I'm kind of going through this, I'm looking at some of the decisions that need to be made. So if you're the Philadelphia Eagles, I know people have said,

okay, well, Max Crosby's name's been thrown out there as a trade candidate. I know you've talked about that. And so how he's always in on anything, you know, any deal that comes up, he's always going to kick the tires on it and explore it. My thing is, I would rather, I would rather pay Jalen Phillips top of market, which you're going to have to pay handsomely for him. You already know how he fits in your defense. You know how good he is. He's young. You don't have to give up draft picks. So to me, like that, there's a lot of incentive just looking at it from the outside in. Like, Jalen Phillips should, you know, he should stay in Philadelphia. I would imagine they would pay what they need to pay to keep him because you're going to have to go out in the free agency

market to replace him and spend a bunch of money on somebody you don't know how they fit in your system or I got to trade a whole pick to go get somebody like Max Crosby. Yeah, I don't know if there's a single player that made more money in his contract year than Phillips because he was just coming off those back-to-back devastating injury years and you were wondering if he was ever going to be the same guy. And instead, he played great and you actually get the feeling, ooh, another year removed from those injuries. He might be even better.

He's in his prime. I've seen some other lists out there, you know, check it. I see Hendrickson on it number one. You know, he's going to be 32 years old. Obviously, you can help you out in the short term. But my debate was more like, does he even go ahead of O.A. and Maffei, who are younger players, obviously not as explosive or complete. But Hendricks.

Yeah, getting up there in years. You watched O.A for the Chargers. He's another guy who made himself a lot of money down the stretch. I like Maffei more of his style. I think you know what you're getting with him. Maybe there's a little more of a C-Way. dealing with O-A and Maffa is not a guy you're going to play that you're going to expect to get 15 sacks, but I think you're going to get 600 really productive snaps, a pure pass gesture.

What did you see out of Oway? He's kind of like been up and down as a pro and maybe even as a prospect was like not a project, but a guy you hoped would develop as a pro. Yeah, you're kind of just wondering when the production was going to match the, you know, the explosiveness and the speed that he had. He's tall, he's athletic. I mean, you can watch his brother play college basketball. He's one of the best college basketball players in the country to see, you know,

athletic the family is. But he, he's got big time, big time speed. The question was, will he ever develop power? And as they're polished there as a rusher? Well, when he came over to the Chargers and watching him each and every week, I'm like, okay, he has more ways to win. And the speed is legit. It is real. And it wasn't just a seven and a half sacks he had, you know, since he came over to the chargers. It was the playoff game. We had three sacks and I believe two force fumbles, you know, against that. That was kind of the first exposure to that Patriots offensive line. If you've removed Miles Garrett of people saying like, oh, oh, like I know they're winning games, but this is a problem. And I think Owey helped himself there. The only thing I would say about the order here and how you

have it stacked up. I would say you have, I like doing these in clusters. So you have that group of four, I'll expose the next two. Then you have the two veterans, the former charters in Mac and Bosa. And then you have quidipay. I would lump quidipay in the same group with Oway and in Mafay. I think those, like, he's in that where the production hasn't, you know, elevated to the athleticism. But I think there's, I think those three guys, I think teams inside free agency rooms are going to have those three names and they're going to debate them and kick them around and compare them. This is a good thing to know. And it, to me, the rankings are a combination. You know, mostly it's my, my, if I was running a team, who I like, who I think is good. But I do want to factor in

position scarcity, age, like how the league is going to be. view them. And it's a good note that that quitty pay is probably going to be thought of a little higher. Certainly not many guys with that sort of talent coming off their rookie contract that's going to be available. Mack and Bosa are just in the one year. They're like a holding tank. They're like in a holding tank on your list. But we always think that that's underrated. I think teams overrate the quitty pays a little bit and underrate. I mean, if you've just been going year to year with Kaleo Mac for instance last few years, yeah, I think the charge you're pretty happy with it. Right. Chargers would absolutely love to do that. But I think that. I think that. I think

You know, when you're in the draft room, the way, you know, people just assume that it's just positions and then they're just stacked vertically and just one name's on top of the other. We would kick some cards over to the side, you know, back when you're using cards in the olden days. But like those would be like the two veteran guys and kind of like, okay, they're kind of their own deal here. You know, they're in their own little holding tank. That makes sense. Okay. We're spending a little more time on edge. I'll go faster through some of the positions that aren't as deep.

But I do want to see if any of the guys lower on the list strikes your family. a little, just running through a few of the names. Kalevon Chason coming off a nice year for the Patriots. Joseph Asai, I'm wondering how the league is going to view him coming off his rookie contract, probably definitely had his best year for the Bengals. And then you get into kind of the older veteran types, Reddick, Al-Qahid and Mohammed had a lot of production this year. Genevian Clowny had a lot of production this year.

There's a couple guys coming off injuries, Sam Williams and Malcolm Coons, who I like. Another young player I threw in there is Arnold Avicetti had a better fourth season for the Falcons. It goes on and on. You got our colleague Cam Jordan is available. Like you can find guys in free agency. I'm curious if there's anyone there that strikes your fancy is too high, too low who you like. No, I think it's in a good spot. I'm always curious. Like AJ Epinessa to me is just like a good solid player. Yes. Um, you know, and I, I think sometimes those guys that might make a little more than you think just because they're just dependable, reliable, steady eddies. Um, so that, that's one of the names that that stuck out a little bit there.

But the other thing is, there's a, and we can kind of go through it as we're going to these other positions. It's a loaded draft at the edge position spot, edge position spot. So maybe you do find some value with some of these guys in the middle of the lower tiers here. Yeah, I think you do. Like, that's a good note because I'm a, I'm very vain DJ. So if I see a guy like Epinessa, who I have in the 80s or 90s or he's not on a list, and then some team gives him some big contract, I feel like an idiot. So, you know, this is why I'm taking, I'm taking these notes.

You know, Appanessa, who I agree. I kind of like him. And in the end, I value him more than a guy like a Kyle Van Nuoy, who's a good player, but older. Defensive tackle, there's not much. And it sounds similar in the draft. Yeah. The best guys I have are older guys, Jonathan Franklin Myers, DJ Reader,

Onumata, Cleas Campbell. So it's just letting the listeners know if you're looking for a young rising defensive tackle, it's not going to happen. The closest you might get to that is Logan Hall, who's kind of developed into a solid, player for the bucks. But other than that, don't expect to find many defensive tackles. Yeah, which to me informs my thoughts on the draft, which is the DTs, which there's some imperfect players, but they're good players. So, you know, where I might look at them and say, this isn't a

traditional first round pick. The fact that free agency is a little thin and there's going to be needs there. Everybody wants to play with two high safeties and they're going to need their front seven to stop the run. They need their down guys to be able to play a block, block and a half. Maybe that moves a guy like I'm thinking of Caden McDonald from Ohio State. It's more of a run plugger than a passers. And that might, maybe that elevates him back up into the first round. He's just outside that for me. And

there are guys out there. Like Sheldon Rankin's, when I talk about guys get underpaid in free agency, he's been on these one-year deals. He was great for the Texans. Like he was, how many first round picks? He's very scheme. He's very scheme-specific. You want to get him on a team that lets him get up the field and go.

And so he's a free agent. So there's guys like that out there. Sebastian Joseph Joseph Day, Draymond Jones, Dayquan Jones, guys who can help you out. He's not played well for the chargers too. Wrote him down too. My overall take, and I'll talk about this a little more on Friday when we unveil the 101, I actually think this is a good free agent class for depth. It's actually, you know, I guess the league's not excited about it, blah, blah, blah.

The top 30, probably worse than usual, top 30 or 40. My 100 to 150, I think there's good players at 1.30. 140, and I do this every year, where a lot of times I'm scratching and clawing to get to 101, 110. So I actually think it's going to be easier to find just helpful 500 snap type of players. Like I'm saying, like Deshawn Hand, Sebastian Joseph Day, I'm having a hard time getting them into the top 100. I think in previous years, they would have been there. So just just an overall. So you're getting, you're doing this list every year now and you're slowly just morphing into a scout, which is this is what we do, Greg, is that we get more excited about our day two, day three guys.

Like we don't talk as passionately about the guys at the top of the draft. It's like, that's no fun. Like the fun stuff is like, how do I sort out these five third round corners that are kind of, you know, all clumped in together? See, you're getting sucked in, man. I am. Minus the Marriott points. It honestly hurt me the moment where I realized Kyris Tonga is probably not making my 101. He kept moving down the list.

I was like, man, but Kyris Tonga, like for 350 snaps dynamic. Right. Linebackers, I want to spend a little more time on because I think. It's really good in free agency and the value of the position. Yeah, it's good in the draft. I think market correction is due for linebackers and tight ends. They should be getting paid more. They're so valuable if you could find some good ones.

And I think there's six good ones here in free agency that can still play in the middle of their pride. Can I, can I? Can I rain on your parade just as you're getting ready to get this thing started with the first float, getting ready to turn around the corner and come down Main Street? there were, I believe, five linebackers that started in the Super Bowl. Four of them were undrafted. Yeah. And are they a long-term solution for the New England Patriots?

Jack Gibbons getting beat by A.J. Barner on that touchdown? Do they want Roberts Blaine starting when it matters? The team that won the Super Bowl, the team that won the Super Bowl had, what, a third round pick and an undrafted player? Sure, but they paid. They paid Ernest Jones $39 million. No. But I'm just saying like that's, it's interesting to just kind of look at it, how teams have put resources elsewhere is what I'm getting at.

How I would look at it to push back would be five, six years ago when running back values were at their very bottom. When you actually had a healthy McCaffrey or, you know, at the time, like a healthy Joe Mixing, who I'm trying to think, when you actually had the five, there was only five, or six difference makers. That was a big time advantage. Those guys were underpaid. And I think that can be what linebackers are like right now. If you have a Zach Bonn, I think that opens up what the record your team gets to do.

You have been a lot of Zach Bonn out of you this year. I thought he did not play as good this year as he did the previous year. I think that's fair. Definitely not as many splash plays. But I do think having a guy like that, like having a good tight end, helps you construct your defense in a way and a flexibility of how you want to play. and you almost you need one of those guys, but that's fair. No, I mean, look, you're talking, and now we're getting way off topic,

but look, I was in Baltimore at the height of Ray Lewis's powers. I've seen what a off-the-ball linebacker can do and mean for a defense, but it's just league-wide right now, kind of looking around the league, they haven't, you know, valued it. And the Fred Warner's of the Fred Warner's, you know, they're going to get their money, that elite elite group of those, you know, kind of like the running back thing. We're saying those top five, six guys, maybe you can go to 10 guys.

But outside of that, they haven't been willing to spend. So this will be a good litmus test for them with this free agency group. Yeah, I don't necessarily think they'll spend because every player here is a little flawed. But Devin Lloyd would be the least fraud. Oh my gosh, you've already come off of it. I mean, you just, you've already, I'm not saying they're going to get paid. I'm saying they're under, they're underpaid. I don't think the league is necessarily going to give a lot of money.

To Jacoby Dean. Okay, I have Lloyd pretty high on my overall list, top 10. I think he made a huge difference for them this year in Jacksonville. The other guys are further down, but I think they are all interesting. in their own ways. Nikobi Dean, Devin Bush coming off a second team all pro season, really struggled with what to do with him because that came out of nowhere, but he was awesome. Leo Chanel is an interesting player for the Chiefs. Caden Ellis has been awesome for a while for the Falcons. And Quay Walker has a lot talent former first round pick for the Packers. So I think different types of flavors there, just starting

with Lloyd, like, would he potentially be a guy you like and give a lot of money to and free agency? There's very, I would say he's the most polarizing player on that list. I like Lloyd coming to the draft process and then it didn't happen for him early in his career, trying to figure out exactly what he is and who he is. And I think he's one of those guys that the ball, he's always, this is the way I'd say it. I say it, he's always around the ball. He's very instinctive. He makes plays in the ball.

You look at all the interceptions. And then other people on the other side of the aisle say, this guy is Johnny on the spot, the ball just kind of found him. You know, like they don't look at him as making plays. they look at plays being presented to him, I really like him, but I'm just saying there's not this universal opinion, high opinion of him. And I think it'll be interesting to see, like, you know, they had a really good defense last year in Jacksonville. Do they effort to bring him back or are they willing to move forward? That will be telling. They're not going to franchise

tag him. The number is huge. There will, there are people who look at it. I mean, it was another regime. They didn't pick up his option, right? Before. Right. Right. They didn't. And that's never a great sign, but he also had his best year this year. I do think he improved in his third season, too. He was already getting to the point where he was a plus starter. You know, Nicobi Dean, I know as a player you're really familiar with. I really straight. Caden Ellis, I love.

It was very hard to like balance a guy like Caden Ellis, who you know what you're getting versus potential. Leo Chanel. It always worried me that Chiefs only used them for 400 snaps, but man, those 400, 500 steps were dynamic. I kind of like him better than a Clay Walker. Have you ever seen a play where he's not just mugger? the center. Like he's always just up on the line of scrimmage and it's like it's such a unique

ability that he has there. He's freaking huge. I think for the right really creative defensive coordinator out there because the chiefs I don't think are going to be able to afford him. He will just be a fun piece. I don't know if you had any thoughts on Quay Walker coming out. And right now, because he's someone that's divisive to. I think I'm on, I'm lower on him than consensus. I'm going to have him lower on my list. I know he'll get his profile. His profile is going to go above his, you know, is going to get him paid above where he is on. your list because he's got he's got elite traits he was a high pick and he's someone that people feel like at his age is still ascending so it hasn't got there he hasn't figured it all yet out yet

but this he would be the version of the away mafe yes you know a quitty pay group he's the linebacker version of to me a little less evidence that it's ever going to happen been in a couple seasons for the packers it'll be telling to me if the dolphins go after because if Jeff Halfley's not that interested and the Packers aren't that interested, that's not a great sign. And then there's a million solid veterans that you can go after, DiMario Davis,

Alex Anzolone, Bobby Wagner, Quincy Williams, Alex Singleton. If you just need a trusted name... Kind of a nerve center if you need somebody to be your communicator and veteran guy. Not a hard position to fill. Justin Trinod is a guy, our friend on the show,

Ali Connolly just loves as kind of a unique role player that could fit in a different system. Let's go to the defensive backs. I really struggled to sort the top of this list out. Jalen Watson is a guy who's just steadily improved. The chiefs have a way of coaching up these cornerbacks, and then they let them go, which is a little worrisome. And so he's just a solid player who's had a lot of really good snaps

and high leverage moments. I ended up putting him on the top. Jamel Dean is coming off a fantastic season for the Bucks, has had an up and down career. He's getting closer to 30. Tariq Wollen has all the talent in the world. And I really like Alante Taylor as a guy you can move around. So those four to me stood out as the cornerbacks atop my list, all top 30 players on my top 101.

I don't know if any of those stand out to you. Yeah, I'm curious on Tariq Wollin just because it's like he literally is a definition of a hero or zero. You know, like it is it is splash plays. it is like just dripping with size and athleticism and can play the ball. And then there's, you know, the brain cramps and getting lost in coverage and losing his cool in a playoff game. Like there's a little bit of a roller coaster ride you go on with him. So he would be the one I would say to be hardest peg.

If I, you know, if he ended up getting the second most money of this group, I don't know. I guess I wouldn't be surprised. If he ended up getting the seventh or eighth most on this group, I think he's got the widest range is what I'm getting out. This position is so hard to spend a lot of money on. Jamel Dean is a perfect example. Very up and down in his rookie contract, then has a great season, gets a big contract. He's always leaving games with injuries.

Then he's starting to struggle. They actually made him take a pay cut last year, DJ, to come back. They give Zion McCollum a ton of money. Then this year, Jamel Dean has the season of his life. Zion McCollum really struggles. Jebel Dean had just taken a pay cut. Now he's sitting free agency coming off a high. The metrics will tell you.

you, he was one of the very best players in the league. Nishon Wright is a guy who's bounced around is coming into free agency at the right time. I think him and Trevon Diggs and maybe even Asante Samuel Jr. fit into a boom or bust, but maybe worth a shot category. Sontas Samuel, I think, you know,

showing that he was healthy and Pittsburgh playing well. So that'll be able to see what he does. He's a guy that I had very high last year. With the charges with gosh, you could play the ball, but he was notoriously poor and run support. and some big moments. And then you find out, well, gosh, I don't know what he was dealing with, you know, from an injury standpoint, got himself healthy.

And he played a little tougher in Pittsburgh. A couple guys that I like a lot. Marcus Jones, great punt returner, great, you know, good slot guy. Buster Brown, Monterec Brown for the Jaguars coming off a sneaky good season. And then Cordale Flot. You know, that's one guy I think will get a little more money than people expect from the Giants, who it took him a little while to develop, but he played pretty well last year. really run if I remember him coming out. Tennessee, I want to say. He was out of Tennessee.

Yeah. And Kim Taylor Brits, a guy who's really been up and down in his career. There are some interesting names out there. Kobe Durant, Martin Emerson, Josh Job, Eric Stokes. Like guys, that can play for you. This month, IHeart Radio is celebrating the stars of the 2026 Winter Games. Scottsdale, Arizona produced Austin Matthews, who headlines a star-studded roster as NHL players return to the Olympics. One of the most lethal goals scorers in the world, Matthews brings his Elite wrist shot and MVP pedigree to Team USA. For the first time in a decade, the world's best pros are

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proudly Canadian-owned and operator. Charm has been part of your love stories and bromances for over 50 years. And you can find bromance on the Iheart Radio Network or wherever you get your podcast. Let's wrap up with the safeties. I don't know if you have any hot takes on Brian Cook of the Chiefs or if you remember him. Cincinnati. Because he is a guy who a little bit like Trevin Morig last year where I put this list out. I get some feedback.

People like them, some Brian Cook, a guy who's improved, very athletic, plays with a lot of energy and I think is hitting free agency at the right time. I have him as my top safety head of Cam Curl, Kobe Bryant of the Seahawks, and Nick Cross, who's a good player for the Colts. That's a good solid players. I know, I believe I was one of the ones who was on you on Merrick last year. Yes. But I did not offer you any opinions this year. I don't know if it was just, maybe it was just a lack of gratitude. on your part, then I just felt, you know, I don't know that I want to expend the time to fire off

that text to try and help him out a little bit. What do you mean the lack of gratitude? I said, I don't remember a thank you. There was absolutely a thank you. Hey, I know this is, but you fixed it. I appreciate that. No, that hey, I know, uh, you can completely ignore this. Uh, thank you.

Uh, if you do it. No worries if you're too busy, you know, what do you want for me, DJ? I'm just trying to make a direct request. I mean, let's just be a touch about it. Like, you know, oh, if you don't have, if maybe if you could consider it, oh, if you just, please, I don't know. I don't want to bother you. I think you're right. I've already stopped reading at that point.

I don't even know what you asked. I think you're right. Honestly, it's a good lesson for people listening out there. Just don't send group texts, group emails. It's always going to be better one-on-one. The second that you see the group, I'm like you, you shut off a little bit. We're like, I guess I can skate free. I don't even have to respond to this.

You know the move that's kind of a veteran move that I would not. like, but I would just appreciate. And I get this all the time. Not all the time. I get it randomly. But you ever get the text says, hey, got a sec dot, dot, dot, dot? And then it's like, oh boy, here it comes. You know, like, so you got to do the call.

And it's like, hey, how's it going? Like, hey, I got my new list here, texting it to you. If you could just look it over real quick. It makes it much harder to say no over the phone call than it does over a group email that you sent to 95 people. I sent it to 6 people. I sent it to 6 people. I don't know. I don't know. It was all blind. I couldn't see who else.

Well, I didn't want to be revealing, you know, who these email addresses, other sources, other emails. Bill Barnwell just blowing me up now. He's got my email address. I mean, I think we're okay. That's a good point. Yeah. Maybe, yeah. Mena, she's a big star. She's not kind of want to want DJ contacting her out of, out of draft season. That public, that gets public. We got big problems. Okay. I guess you don't have any big takes on, uh, I kind of buried read Blankenship in end, by the way. It feels like he's a solid player, just the guy. I always overrate safeties, by the way, because I think they're good, and I think there's more average to plus starters available in free agency, but they just never get paid. So there's some fun guys out

there, like in a Lowy Gilman, like a Jalen Hawkins who started the Super Bowl. Jalen Thompson's been a pretty good player for the Cardinals. If you need a safety, you can find one. Jaquan Brisker. Who's the biggest? Who are the bigger guys in this group? I mean, is Brisker a bigger guy? I mean, I don't think he was super tall. He's physical. Yeah. I'd be curious about that.

Because I've talked to, in teams, talking about the draft stuff during this time of year. And I'm going to do something at the combine, kind of like a searching for Seahawks thing. And if you look at the, the craze right now and all the, all the leagues trying to find, which is the, the, the Derwin, Eamon, Eamon-Wary, Hamilton, you know, big nickel that can, you know, do a lot of different things, but can be your force player. their teams trying to find that guy. So yeah. Donovan Wilson. Is he a big guy for the Cowboys? Yeah, six feet. It's just see who played in that role, you know.

But he's, again, a lesser guy. Jaguar and Briskar, I struggled with just because of the concussion history. I never thought he'd have a season where, you know, he's one of the NFL leaders in snaps last year. So good on him for getting healthy. All right, that's DJ helping me out with my list. I'm not sure how much it helped. But DJ's phoning in now because his name is first on the call sheet. 40s and free agents.

I like that my responsibility doesn't change at all. I get the nice promotion, the bump to the top of the page, and I don't have to do anything extra. And you get carried on this episode. But it's all changing now. It's draft season. Next episode, we will do a Combine preview. I'm really looking forward to that one.

I won't be able to see you in Indianapolis because DJ's got like just security around. Are you going to be there at all? Of course I'm going to be there. For first handful of days. I get out of there by the time, you know, the real meat of it starts for you. I'm there. You paying your own way there or they're actually sending you there. Well, who knows what's going on? But no, we are NFL Daily will be there. We got some interviews on the book with some GMs.

Maybe we can get a coach in the mix. That'll be next time on 40s and free agents. We will see you next week. Hey, let me know when your train gets in. I'll see if I can pick you up. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.