NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - 40s and Free Agents: The NFC North's 5 Impact Additions and Rookies

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

On the latest episode of 40s and Free Agents with Gregg Rosenthal and Daniel Jeremiah, the duo shares their five respective impact additions for the NFC North. In a highly contested division consistin...g of the Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers and Chicago Bears, incoming rookies like Matthew Golden, Colston Loveland, Tate Ratledge and Tai Felton could make all the difference down the stretch. Those players and more on this edition of 40s!  NOTE: Time codes are approximate and do not account for advertisement runtime. (1:28) - Tate Ratledge (4:15) - Joe Thuney (6:05) - Matthew Golden (8:43) - Aaron Banks (10:50) - Tai Felton (12:40) - Will Fries & Ryan Kelly (17:24) - Colston Loveland & Luther Burden III (20:58) - Grady Jarrett (23:14) - D.J. Reed (25:20) - WildcardsNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 Welcome to 40s and Free Agents, your favorite podcast leading up to the start of the season talking about the biggest additions all over the league. My name is Greg Rosenthal. I am with Daniel Jeremiah, Mr. Move the Sticks, stunting on us wearing his shirt that he bought at a very fancy resort in Hawaii. Well, that would mean something if you didn't just tell me you were just literally a. over in Hawaii. So that doesn't really fly. But I feel like with this show, Greg, it's like you're going to get a visit from people during the holidays. And then I'm looking forward to seeing them again, you know, next holiday season. And all of a sudden it's like, why are they here in the summer? I thought they weren't coming until next year. That's not true. We had our
Starting point is 00:02:44 first week of shows back last week. And it was great to, to hear from everyone. And the numbers say it. Everyone's listening. Everyone's enjoying. And yes, we're going to be going twice a week leading into the regular season and then we'll get a little quieter and we'll be back during draft season in full force. But yeah, let's go over what happened this off season and kind of push it forward about the guys
Starting point is 00:03:08 who join these rosters that are going to make the biggest impact. You do the rookies. I do the veterans. We'll start with a rookie. Yeah, we're going to rip through the NFC North here. So five guys and we get the, what do we call the sixth one? Your little bonus baby here.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Just like a wild card. Wild card. That's it. Wild card. So I'll start. with the first one, and let's keep it sexy. And I'm talking about the hair of Tate Ratlidge with the Detroit Lions, who's going to, who's going to plug in, start at right guard. They were towing with the idea of having him play center with glass with, uh, what's Ragnow who retired. So like, okay, well, he played there and then they ended up, man, we're not going to,
Starting point is 00:03:42 we're not going to do that. Let's put him at right guard. And you say, why would you have an offensive lineman as one of these, you know, key rookies to watch? Well, that's the identity of a Dan Campbell team. Is there physicality in the way this offensive line can move people? So I think it's going to be big for him. He was not totally healthy his last year at Georgia. If he was, I think he probably goes a little bit higher. But he is massive. You think about some of the sides that they have up there,
Starting point is 00:04:07 I'll give you the numbers on him. He is 6.6 and a half, 3808 pounds. He ended up running a 4-9-7 as he got healthy at the combine. But big athletic, physical, felt like this is kind of a Detroit Lion player. Did he go a little earlier than people expected? He was 57th overall. He was my 60-second player. So right around where you thought, and they seem to truly love him that he was going to start, I think, barring a huge surprise right off the bat.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Is this a bit of a trend? The Ravens, I mean, they're throwing out to massive tall guards. The Eagles, obviously, some of the best teams of league. Like, why is this happening that we're having these behemoth guards? Well, the idea is to get five tackles on the field. And baseball, you talk about we can have all short stops would be ideal. Well, if you think about the offensive line, a lot of these offensive line coaches, hey, I need the feet. of a tackle. It's a passing league to be able
Starting point is 00:04:57 to work in some of these matchups with these defensive tackles. So there's been more of an emphasis on that. And the other thing is when you're a tall interior player, the danger is, okay, you can get leveraged. Guys can get underneath you and they can rock you back. Well, the ball's coming out so fast now too. That's
Starting point is 00:05:13 not as much of an issue or deterrent. And that hair is just amazing. If you have it, if you're listening and not watching, just Google it. Like one of the best team picture player photos out there has Jeremiah ever experimented with his hair. It's like a Danfini-esque.
Starting point is 00:05:29 In his guy, I've never seen you even remotely a different haircut. You seem like one of the guys that gets a haircut every three days, just to make it sure it's exactly always the same. I'll be honest with you, Greg. Not a lot of options these days. So I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:05:44 If I tried to grow out the hair, then it becomes like stringy, creepy. It's not that full flowing potato rat. Probably would be the same for me. I did do a part down the middle and dyed it black in early high school. Like, this was, you know, the days of Kurt Cobain when people would... There's a picture out there floating around with me with frosted tips.
Starting point is 00:06:04 There we got. That was college. You said, like, why are they talking offensive line? I hate to break it to you. We're going to talk a lot of offensive line. That's just where the NFC North invested this year. I'm going to talk about the Bears and Joe Tuny. What a crazy career.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I mean, he had a chance to be part of two of the greatest dynasties in NFL history. And two all-pro first teams, two second-team all-pros, including last year, where he played very well at guard and then had to fill in at tackle at the end of the year. I mean, some of his Patriots teammates actually voted him for offensive player of the year. They put him on the ballot. Did you know this?
Starting point is 00:06:40 They give Tom Brady and Teddy Bruskey a vote because they're in the media. That shouldn't be allowed. And they won't give me one because I work for NFL media. It's like... You can lobby a guy. I know you don't want to trash talk Tom Brady and Teddy Bruskey, but here's the facts.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I follow each team more. I deserve it more than them. I bet. Let's talk more about you. Joe Tuny transformed the chiefs when he joined that team. And I do think it's a position, and you can tell me if you disagree, that you can age well. He's still playing at a very high level. So they brought him in Chicago in a trade that ultimately didn't cost too much, but the contract extension did cost a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:16 They also added Drew Dalman. I didn't pick him at center, but they tried to improve the interior line for that team. And to me, he is just like an immediate difference. maker for that offensive line. Yeah, no. It's steady Eddie. And again, not his fault. He had to kick out and play tackle. That's not what he is, who he is, especially at this point time in his career, but more than a functioning interior offensive lineman. And that's the whole emphasis this year. It's the evaluate Caleb Williams year. And so everything was done with that in mind. Let's protect him in the interior. Let's get him some weapons, which we'll get
Starting point is 00:07:43 to here in a little bit. Let's hear it. Well, no, I'm going to jump around. I want to jump around today. I don't want to get too locked in on one team. I want to bounce. Is it awkward? We're here in the studio, you're used to just looking at me in a TV screen. It's a lot of eye contact right now. No, actually, I have normal people skills, so it doesn't really impact me as much. I don't know what you're dealing with over there,
Starting point is 00:08:05 but fine by me. I'm going to go Matthew Golden for the Green Bay Packers. It's a good one. Low-hanging fruit here. First round pick out of Texas the draft went nuts there in Green Bay when they finally selected a receiver in the first round. That was a fun moment.
Starting point is 00:08:21 But I go back to Golden, and we talked about him in the run to the draft. The speed, you know, he ran in the four twos, and I think people kind of look at that and go, okay, this is just a vertical, you know, take the top off guy. But I watched him before he'd run the 40. I did not think he would run, you know, quite that fast, but someone with toughness, instincts, he has some route savvy to him. We always talk about, you know, staying grounded through the catch guys that run through the ball means they trust their hands. And that gives you a lot of, of yak opportunities there as well. So I thought he was a really, really good player. He was my top receiver if you put Travis Hunter in his own little box in this last draft. So I feel like this
Starting point is 00:08:57 Green Bay Packers team has been a team of Robbins, like a bunch of number twos, really good number twos. I think that Matthew Golden has a chance to be Batman for him. It sounds like that is what they hope, especially coming out of training camp, when you just hear about the target distribution at practice, the snap distribution at practice, he is getting the volume of looks from Jordan Love and certainly snaps with the first team. They didn't waste like time being like, you got to earn your spot. No, he's just like out there right away and reportedly looking like the best receiver on the team. And I've been interested to
Starting point is 00:09:27 hear that, you know, they're using him in creative ways too, like some of the endarounds and stuff that you see Jayden Reed doing like he is athletic enough to do a little bit of everything. So I'm really, I'm really excited because how do you, because to me he matches up well with Jordan Love. How do you think they fit? You know, the funny thing is I'm looking
Starting point is 00:09:43 at the first word of my notes and then the last word of my notes. And again, think about this guy ran 429. The first word is polished that he played with polish, which sometimes it takes guys years to get to that point. I thought he was there at the college level. And the last word I have was reliable. So if you're trying to get the trust of your quarterback, you've got to be able to do two things.
Starting point is 00:10:03 You've got to be able to separate, which route polish is what allows you to do that. And then you've got to be where you're supposed to be and be on the same page. He's intelligent. He's smart. I think that's how you get a quarterback's attention in favor. And I think he's already done that. Yeah. I thought he made a lot of tough grabs too at Texas.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And Jordan Love is not afraid to throw it into. to those tight windows you you said you're jumping all around i'm just i like a theme i like staying with the same team i'm going with another what's like your jacket you like structure okay let's go keep it going this this is a totally i don't know drew my own back there structure drew 35 dollar uniclo jacket it's a totally fine 305 dollar unicorn jacket uh Aaron banks is in offensive guard that signed with the packers for massive money like more than anyone unexpected. Five years, $77 million. And I think that just told you what the Packers believed they needed more than anything, which to me was a surprise because I think of their offensive line as
Starting point is 00:11:00 one of the strengths of their team. And it brings up an idea of this theory. I'm going to throw out you. Okay. Okay. Jalen Carter specifically, but the Eagles pass rush in general, like change so many teams as offseason plans and got people paid. So I think they helped get Aaron Banks played. Like the interior of that offensive line was so bad in that game, they were like, we just got to throw more money at it. Especially when Elton Jenkins got folded up in the early part of it. That didn't help and now they're moving Jenkins
Starting point is 00:11:29 who was in the interior, but now he's going to play center. The next week, I thought Bo Limmer was this young player who played pretty well for the Rams and suddenly at the end of the game, Jalen Carter wins a game for him. He's getting bench now. They had to bring in their old friend Coleman Shelton. Next week, commanders, they did
Starting point is 00:11:45 a little better, but they invested in the offensive line more at the tackle position and moving some guys inside and then we you know the chiefs uh they went into the off season just like knowing they had to invest there too it's like carter and the eagles single-handedly changed how this entire off season went because of what they did yeah and i would say probably stress even more so just the eagles i mean Carter had the finisher against the rams but a lot those games wasn't just him i mean they were getting whipped across the offensive line and we've talked about the chiefs in the previous episode that the tackle play cost them maybe potentially two Super Bowl. So Jalen Carter, yes, but I just think the whole dynamic of the defensive
Starting point is 00:12:20 line saying, you know, a quarterback can be a, you know, for breeze and make a lot of things go away. It's all fine, but not when you're going up against the defensive line like that. And Banks is an interesting guy that I think, even the 49ers who wanted to keep them, which is a good sign, like, we're maybe surprised how far the Packers went. But I wanted to bring them up here just because I think it's a really good offensive line on paper. Zach Tom, who is there, Elton Jenkins, and you add Banks to that group. Like, they're always greater than the sum of their parts. And to me, that's the key for them this year. No, that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I like that one. Let's jump to one that this is the one that I struggle with was Minnesota trying to find one. And I didn't want to just, again, go all first round picks. So this one, I know the receiver group that they have. Okay. But Ty Felton to me, when I go back through and look at my notes and see what he can do,
Starting point is 00:13:07 I think he's going to factor in for this team this year. And look, with Addison being suspended to start the season, we'll see if that gives him more opportunities. But to go in the in the scouting report here coming out of Maryland he's 6-1 he's 183 pounds he ran 437 I go through my notes
Starting point is 00:13:22 he's productive he can play inside and outside he's tough he wins in traffic you'll see him build speed down the field he plays fearless he works in the middle of the field he has some goal line fade wins there's a lot of things if you think about you know KOC and what he values
Starting point is 00:13:38 in receivers like the fearlessness the working in the middle of field and then you add on to that this guy's a legit you know sub 44 high four three guy as a third round pick the hundred and second pick he was my 80 second ranked player i thought it was value there and i i just got a feeling ty felton's going to factor in the opportunity's wide open for him how how are his hands do you remember anything in particular good i've got i've got notes in here about him plucking in traffic and winning in traffic
Starting point is 00:14:03 contested catches prepared there have been some reports early like you know he's a rookie at training camp he's fighting the ball a little bit as he as he's you know figuring out that offense without Addison there and Justin Jefferson has been out of practice. Like it is wide open. Jalen Naylor might be a guy who's been solid as a number three, but stretched if they're asking him to do more. And then other than that, it's wide open for Felton to take that spot. They have Ron Dale Moore on the roster. They have Lucky Jackson is taking starter steps. I'm not overly familiar with Lucky's work, but he's been in a couple camps with them. I like him. I have him as my favorite to win the World Series of poker. I'm going to stick. With the Vikings then because I know I'm just sticking with the theme here and this will be the last offensive alignment I talk about for two. I'm counting them as a pair.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So when they brought in Will Fries, the guard to a big contract, they outbid a couple teams. Giants and Seahawks were both in on Will Fries and they outbid him. And they brought in his teammate Ryan Kelly. I thought, oh, that's cool. What a coincidence that happened.
Starting point is 00:15:07 But it wasn't a coincidence, DJ. They wanted to get signed together. And they talked about that with prospective teams. They were hoping to find a fit, which you would think would be almost impossible. Two teammates, Ryan Kelly, long time, really good center for the Colts
Starting point is 00:15:23 and then Fries, who's a little younger. But they found that fit with the Vikings. And I love that because these two guys already worked together. So I'm cheating and including them as my five impact players as one person because they kind of cheated and came over for the Vikings together. And to me, that really improves what was probably the weakest spot of their team last year, the interior offensive.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah, bring a buddy. Why not? Bring a buddy. And that was, again, an emphasis for a lot of these teams that are knocking on the door to get where they want to go of saying the offensive lines got to be better. It's like if you're going to a new place, you got to bring friends. That's why, you know, with the whole new ESPN thing, you've got to keep 40s and free agents together. Me and Jeremiah. I don't know. There's the linear and the digit.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It's just complicated. It's confusing. The last thing I do want to say about this, I have a formula for surprise teams every year. You can tell me what you think. It's not. It's not too analytically sound. Okay, I got my pen ready. What's your formula?
Starting point is 00:16:15 I write down my list of the top offensive lines and defensive lines in the league. I do it 1 to 32. Okay. And I add those two numbers together. I like it. And the teams that have the lowest numbers that maybe aren't viewed as true contenders, those are the teams I kind of pick for like a surprise team. And to me, the Vikings would qualify potentially for that team.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I think they've improved on their offensive line. They've already were good on the defensive line. I could mention their defensive line pickups, too, and so they might be a little bit of a surprise. So it's interesting that your theory. No, this is a compliment because I usually at the quarter mark, like four games in, which now doesn't work with a 17 game schedule. But four games in, one of the things I'll look at for teams that I want to project forward
Starting point is 00:17:01 is I'll just go to sack differential. Yeah. It's pretty basic. I thought you were going to say like, so your big brain theory is that the teams that are good in the trenches are good at football? like no but we're saying the same thing but like you can look at okay who's added personnel here and then to me you get four maybe we go six games into the season you say who's getting to the quarterback who's protecting the quarterback that usually ages pretty well it's why i've almost always picked the eagles to make the conference championship games even in the seasons where it didn't
Starting point is 00:17:26 work out well because at the beginning of the year i'm like well that that looks pretty good and the broncos for instance where a team last year i remember going into the season like that offensive line and defense line is pretty good and then they're one of the teams they do this with the surprise by the way so when i was with the ravens as a young guy we would go through in the summer and we would take every team and go position by position and we would, you know, grade everybody out. And then we would look at it and we would kind of look and you'd see, we did this with the Chargers. Like right before the Chargers with that run that they went on when they got, you know, with the offensive line. Then you had Gates and L.T.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Oh, the Schottenheimer. That whole group. And it was like Dealman. It was McNeil like in, they had Castillo on the defensive line of Merrim. But anyways, this was that young group. And we looked at it before that season where they really kind of took off and popped. in our personality, like they got a lot of talent up front on both sides.
Starting point is 00:18:13 See, I could be in one of those rooms. You'll hear more just brilliant insights like that right after this break. We'll wrap up the rest of the NFC North. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks,
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Starting point is 00:20:41 All right, we are back on 40s and free agents. I'm getting some quality FaceTime with the man, Daniel Jeremiah, the Chargers broadcaster, one of the busiest man in show business in the regular season. Because you got to watch the NFL games and you got to start working on your college tape. That's really now all. directed towards the 40s in free agency.
Starting point is 00:21:10 That's the main part of your time. Yeah, just trying to make sure that this show and this little thing we've built here continues to grow. Everything else in my life has just put off to the side as we try and get this thing. Actually, keep it going. I think it's off the ground, right? It's good. We're doing well. How high off the ground are we? I think we're entering our second year after a very
Starting point is 00:21:28 promising rookie year. I think we got offensive rookie of the year votes. We didn't win it. You saw a slump. Yeah, but we're hoping. No, we're hoping to make the leap. All right. Give me another one of your rookies in the NFL. All right, so I've got two more to go, and then I'll get to my wild card. But the two that I have left, I'm going to put them together because it's the same team, but it's one of the most intriguing offenses coming up in this season. That's the Bears. And that's Colston Loveland, who I think's got a chance to really be a Leporta type
Starting point is 00:21:54 piece, chess piece here, and playmaker in Ben Johnson's system. It's just such an easy connection to make with how they use Leporta and how they can use Loveland, similar type players. And then Luther Burden, who's someone who had first round ability, didn't go on the first round out of Missouri. But, you know, Keenan Allen's not there anymore. So how is this all going to get divvied up? I think to me, not only, I think these guys are going to have impact, but I'm fascinated with Roma Dunzee and DJ Moore, how does this whole thing get shared? Like, if you're going to say, who are they going to be the, you know, statistical leaders amongst that group and how's the share, the target share going to go, I'm maybe more fascinating with this team than any other.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I have no idea how that is going to go. Obviously, I don't. I don't know if they do, right? I think Colston Loveland is going to be a piece and you just can hear in the way that Ben Johnson talks about him. He's perfect. He's already had him. It's proof of concept. Like in August, too, after actually getting him on the field because he was overcoming an injury in the early part of the offseason program, just the way he talks about Loveland.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Like, that's his guy. I think that's going to be, to use a Rams term, a weight-bearing wall for this offense for a while. Luther Burton is more of a confusing guy to me. So maybe you can explain Luther Burden more because when I watched him on tape, you can see that he has great movement skills, but I just, he seems like a guy who's like, I don't know, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:23:18 is this going to work at the NFL level? Is he different enough? Or could there be like a Cadarius Tony type of vibe there? Which isn't all bad. He helped out a Super Bowl champion. Well, I mean, look, there was some talk about him going through the draft process, the maturity thing. So that was a factor for some teams.
Starting point is 00:23:35 but when you watch him the quarterback play was not great there his last year at Missouri the year before he was more productive you know had a better looking year on tape but he's someone in the slot who's athletic he's quick a lot of quick hitters a lot of run after catch he's got strong reliable hands where he was working out in the pre-draft process there's a lot of guys throwing and working out there and the reports I got back were his hands are the best of all these guys that were working out there just real strong reliable hands he can make miss after the catch I think that's where he's going to factor in it's going to be a lot of
Starting point is 00:24:05 to run after catch stuff. But the last note I had, I mean, there's a lot of bad balls when you're watching him in Missouri last year. Yeah, you would assume that Caleb Williams will be thrown to him a much nicer pass this year. And DJ Moore is there. I do wonder how that all fits.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Do you think I look at them. We got a cold combat there too. I mean, I see them as a little duplicative. The reports out of camp so far are that Roma Dunzee is making a nice year-to leap. And I like to hear that. They're really counting on him.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And you would think, just because these guys are more experienced and then you have the two tight ends, commit and Loveland. I would guess those four guys would be in line ahead of burden. And that's not a bad thing. I wonder long term. There wasn't good vibes there in the wide receiver room necessarily by all accounts last year.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So you just hope everyone can stay happy and get enough target. I wonder if it's kind of the Jameson Williams plan for him trajectory-wise. You know, we start to see Ben Johns kind of gave him a little bit more, a little bit more as you kind of went along. And then he has a role where you can flip him or reverse. You can take some shots and do that.
Starting point is 00:25:05 with him. So again, this is why he factored in for me is curious. I don't know what that's going to look like. Yeah, I want to see it too. I'm going to go with another Bears player. Let's just go heavy on the Bears. I'm making an audible because Grady Jarrett was one of my favorite defensive tackles
Starting point is 00:25:21 to watch at his very best. And it wasn't that long ago with the Falcons. And so I do think at 30 years old, he is a really big X factor for the Chicago Bears. So I mentioned about investing in lines and that was a theme across this entire division.
Starting point is 00:25:36 They did it on the offensive line and they did it on the defensive line. They also added Dio O'Donbo from the Colts who could be a good kind of supplementary edge rusher. But to me, Jared turning the clock back and he got a big contract. There was interest in him. They had to pay him quickly.
Starting point is 00:25:53 It was one of those weird cuts, DJ. I don't know if you were ever involved in one of these where he got cut and the very next day the guy signed a monster contract, which is like, oh. How that works out? Well, it's like, should we, maybe kept him or gotten some sort of trade
Starting point is 00:26:07 compensation for him. Can I give you I'll give you a minute to find it, but what pick was Grady Jarrett when he came out? Because I'm going back through this is the 2015 draft and I'm looking at my notes on a young Grady Jarrett who was just under 6 foot 1,
Starting point is 00:26:22 304 pounds, ran 506 1 tech, 3 tech, ultra quick first step. He can slip blocks, he penetrates, plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage. What pick was he? 137. How many years is he been in the late? This is 11 now.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And I misspoke. I think I was thinking of Hargrave is 30, who was another free agent in this position in this division. He is 32 years old now. Grady Jarrett was my 44th player in that draft. That's a good pat on the back. Every now and then you get one. Every now and then. That is awesome.
Starting point is 00:26:54 You know why I'm not going to overly brag about it? Why? Because the two guys ahead of him were Cam Irving and Jay Ajai. That's the draft. There you go. There you go. Jay Ajai, Super Bowl champion, Philadelphia. He had a nice run.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Had a nice run. Had some moments. Give me another one. I'll give you another one. Who you got? Well, you know, I gave it two. I was going to talk about more about Grady Jarrett. I just think that sort of player late in his career, it can give you such a shot of adrenaline
Starting point is 00:27:24 if he can kind of turn the clock back. And when he's been healthy, he has looked good. All right, I will give you a Detroit lion. Hadn't thrown out one of them yet. DJ Reed is a guy that every spot that he's been, he's a corner. that was first with the Seahawks and then with the Jets. Everyone that covers the team closest, every coach with the team, every player on the team, they always go out of their way to tell you, you know who's better than everyone thinks?
Starting point is 00:27:45 You know who's a really great cornerback? DJ Reed. A lot of people covering the Jets last year and the analytics at least would support it would say, like, DJ Reed might have been their best cornerback, at least in terms of consistency. I would certainly not go that far. And the Jets gave Soss Gardner his money for a reason. But I think you look at the Lions and they wanted to keep Carlton Davis and it didn't happen he got big money in new england i think they did very well to sign dj reid at that cornerback spot and
Starting point is 00:28:09 really give them some stability not a guy i've heard anyone talking about this off season or even in training camp that i think could really figure into some big time playoff games for the lines three years 48 million so it wasn't jump change that they gave him there and this is someone who can go nose to nose play man it's what they like to do it's one of the intriguing things to me with terrian arnold to see what this looks like for him in his second year because the penalties with him a lot of times is because he was back to the quarterback, you know, playing press man down the field, and there was a little panic sometimes when the ball was up in the air.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And in Alabama, he could play a little bit more top down, see things. So I'm curious to see how they utilize him this year. But if you want to just go nose to nose, play man to man and let him go cover. I mean, DJ Reed, he can do that. And they've already lost a little bit of depth. N.S. Rake straw, who was a relatively high pick
Starting point is 00:28:56 a couple years ago, was going to be a depth piece for them, but he is out for the season. He got torched in the first preseason. On injured reserve. His career hadn't gotten off to a good start to begin with. And they're going to be okay. As long as they can stay healthy there, but DJ Reed is someone to watch.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I like how DJ, I could, you know, I was going to go back to the Jarrett point and you're like, move it along a little bit. You still got that quarterback in you. Let's get,
Starting point is 00:29:19 let's go. Let's get to the line of scrimmage. I get the plate called here, man. Still running the show. So that means we have one last little segment in this show and it's what I like to call a wild card pick so you can just go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:29:29 The image, by the way, if you're listening, of Greg, that I would give you in this discussion is, If you go to like a high school game and sometimes you get the call from the sidelines, right? So the 10 guys are lined up to call the play.
Starting point is 00:29:40 The ball snapped and then the 11th guy still looking over at the sideline because they know that you didn't get the signal yet and we've already run the play. That's Greg. I mean, you can make that analogy or you can look at the experience that I have, the amount of podcasts I have put out into the ether
Starting point is 00:29:56 in the last decade plus. And you can think eclipse a thousand. I've got a thousand. I know the medium. And it's a medium that breathes a little bit. It can be long. it doesn't have to be, you know, 30 minutes and let's go get our lunch.
Starting point is 00:30:08 You know, you can have fun. Go a little back and forth. So I'm trying to bring that to you, and I appreciate you bringing the tempo. Some of us have to cover a preseason game. Can I do my wild card? Please. My wild card, I won't spend a long time on it.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Tyleek Williams, defensive tackle. Yes. So, Tyleek Williams was a little bit of a surprise. He went in the first round. I thought he would probably be a day two guy, second round. All the ability in the world when he wants to turn it on. It's all in there. Very physical and strong and powerful
Starting point is 00:30:37 out of Ohio State. There were just moments where I didn't think his motor always ran super hot. And the interesting thing is, you know, if you go back and look, there wasn't a lot to criticize when Penae Seul was coming out of Oregon, but there were some moments where you could watch him and say, okay, he
Starting point is 00:30:53 maybe picked a spot here there, and that is absolutely not a question. I mean, he plays as hard and it's physical, maybe the most physical offensive line in the NFL right now. So they've done this in in the past. So we'll see what Tyler Williams looks like on the D-line. The reports out of camp have been awesome. He is playing
Starting point is 00:31:09 with the first team. Now, that's partly because of injuries, but I think that points out early in the season, you know, when the rest of the guys, like Lee McNeil is still coming back from an injury. Who did they lose? They lost Owen Woosurike for the season. So you're going to be watching some big time games early. It's Green Bay
Starting point is 00:31:26 Chicago, Baltimore, and Tyler Williams might already be out there. I'm glad you threw him out there. I do a daily show, and he's one of those guys that, I I think we've mentioned one time, and I'm like, we should mention Tyler Williams. That's why that's why you're good. I'm mentioning Jordan Mason to wrap it up. Ooh, nice.
Starting point is 00:31:42 The former 49ers running back who the Vikings acquired for a day three pick was just a quiet acquisition, gave him a nice, but very manageable, just a couple years for, I think it was like $8 million total contract extension. And he's going to share the workload with Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones is on board by all accounts. It's going to be a 50-50 slip split and try to keep Aaron Jones as fresh as possible for the end of the season. And I just thought, man, this is a guy that runs hard and you don't have to spend a lot of money and you know you're getting a really good player. So I thought that was a nice pickup with the Vikings. Oh, I like that one. I would never even have thought of that one.
Starting point is 00:32:20 It's one of those ones where you kind of, you hear the name and you're like, oh, I kind of forgot about them. By the way, your look today? That's what I'm going for for a while. Want to know what your look is? I just figured it out. Yeah. Remember evil Michael Knight on Knight? No, this is, I was going to say
Starting point is 00:32:35 this is where our age difference shows up, but I think we're the same age. You just have older references in general. I know that's older. I know, and I know. Night Rider is... Look it up, Drew. Just look it up.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Just look it up. Just look up the evil Michael Knight. Just look up the picture of it. And you just mean to get him that little goty to go with a little skinny goate on the chin. You know, not all of us can be, you know, project like the wholesome Daniel Jeremiah. His kids are all like going to college now image.
Starting point is 00:33:00 and I don't know, you know. I like it. It's a good look. It's a good look. You will hear us next later this week. And yeah, we'll keep the theme going. We're going to talk about the AFC North. And who knows, maybe I'll even have a change of clothes and not go with the evil Knight Rider look next time.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's like six people that know what Knight Rider is. But, doggone, I'm here for you six people. We'll see you next time. That's how you grow this thing. That's how you grow it. Free agents. I have a blossom reference next time. The NFL is rolling.
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