NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Aaron Rodgers = Chance The Rapper?

Episode Date: April 10, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling, & Gregg Rosenthal – recap all the latest news from around the NFL including Ben Roethlisberger announcing he will return to football in 2017, and the league fining a number of players who were involved in an arm wrestling tournament in Las Vegas. Then the heroes discuss which musicians they think compare to NFL quarterbacks, and also read off some of their favorite iTunes reviews.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a rule. Failed with Heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and a Jewish man, Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan. Money said that with such menace. Well, you could read between the lines there. I don't know what that means.

What an odd way to sell our show in general. Yeah, it is. I mean, it shows if some people complain, well, you guys, you know, maybe you need a little more variety. if you want to take the next step and get on television maybe you need to spice things up a little bit Hi Greg Everything's a little bit better Jewish

It's a little Jew in it We're off the rails already Welcome to the Monday edition Of the Round the NFL podcast Driven Not sponsored Freaking Driven by Hyundai Which rhymes with Sunday

and that is a car company that sponsors this show. Nobody ever can complain about us not, you know, giving the sponsor what they need, right off the top. Yeah, your priorities seem to be in place from a corporate point of view. Hey, got to stay employed. Today's show is a nice one. Very nice, in fact. We're going to catch up on all the news since the last time we were with you Tuesday.

we hope you checked out Thursday. Thursday, thank you. We hope you checked out the stream of our Thursday show, which was aired on NFL.com at 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific. That will happen again on this Thursday,

and then the Thursday after that, and then the Thursday after that. I think it might be a trial balloon situation by the shadowy league figures to see if we'll do more of this during the season, which is not, you know, we're not saying, Please watch us, click in, give us the traffic.

But if you do like the video show, check it out because it could help the brand. I just logged on to NFL.com a few minutes ago and front and center on the homepage of our website, the interview with Mr. F, a giant picture of Mr. F. So a nod to the sponsor that actually used to give us gifts and things of items of interest to us versus our current sponsor. Yes, a gift that was below the monetary amount that would force us to alert. as far as the company knows he was very good about that yeah staying below the radar on that uh so yeah we'll do uh some news catching up on uh what happened in the last few days uh we'll have a little fun a little fun uh exercise here uh this coming out of a twitter uh back and forth between

at chris wessling uh and one of his many followers uh about what and how an NFL quarterback correlates or what rock band or artist best describes an NFL quarterback. How about that? So we'll throw some theories out there, some connections, and then we could have at it and tear each other apart. I like that. Wow. Listen, sports, music, hey, pop culture right in the bulls.

Oh, yeah. That's what people are looking for. Perfect mesh. I mean, it's April 9th, April 10th. Get off our backs. And then if we have time, we'll do some iTunes reviews. So that's today's show. very exciting before we do that we look behind the glass she is a wonderful wonderful woman

and a great talent behind that glass she is new money what's up oh not much thanks for that intro dan yeah any Disney trips this weekend uh no no Disney trips this weekend that I know of Sydney something seems to be up you're not the same way you used to be you'll be sorry go to nuts berry farm or something no uh I I don't know if I've planned that far ahead of my life, to be honest with you. It's Monday. I'm still getting over this last weekend. Come on.

Open the door, Sid. We need to talk. Open the door. It's really upsetting. It is very concerning. He's a little controlling is all I'm saying. You ever see fear, Mark Wahlberg? No.

Yes, great movie. Gives himself the tattoo with the ink with Reese With Smith's character's name. I'm not saying Mickey Mouse is going to carve in, you know, new money. Or new money into his chest. I'm just saying he seems to be not taking this well. That's all. Well, once you, I mean...

You can have a marked shirt right now. Mark, yeah, as a gang member is the best way I describe this. I just wanted to switch things up. I'm wearing a white button down. It's always like, oh, you got to keep the top two buttons open and roll up your sleeves. Like, I just simply have the top button buttoned and the rest sort of flowing free. Feels good. It looks good.

I'm going to go on NFL Network looking like this. See what the, you know, what the ramifications would be. Please do it. Please do it. I know. You got to back it up, then. You're all talk. You know, are you going to go?

Are you really going to go on an NFL network? I'd be happy to. We're all linked together. If I, if I sync the segment for the four of us, you're not going to take any. We won't take any effects. You need some ramifications in your life. Yeah, I don't have enough responsibilities. Do it, Mark.

Let's do some news. Trump's America. Men work in two places. gold mines and Goldman Sachs. Don't I know it? We'll start with some of the least surprising news in the history of the NFL. Ben Rothelisberger will not retire. The Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback announced via Twitter that he informed the team he's

looking forward to playing his 14th NFL season. Ben wrote, Steeler Nation will get my absolute best. speaking of which three-fourths of this podcast did not see that tweet because we were one of what seems like thousands of sports writers who were blocked by Big Ben's Twitter account. Now, I know what everyone's thinking,

oh, declare vengeance and all that. Now, this is a totally different situation than Derek Carr. This seems to be someone operating his account that has some type of vendetta against the media. It doesn't seem as Rathelsberger related. It's not even Ben Rathusberger's account. It's Ben Rathusberger's website's Twitter account.

Okay. Why are they blocking like 3,000 sports writer? Maybe anyone that, like, didn't come down on the pro Ben Rathesberger's side when he was accused of multiple sexual assaults? I wasn't even in the industry when that stuff was gone. I'm sure a lot of people weren't that were blocked. That's a good point. It's a good point.

Greg's saying that because you broke some news back in the day, didn't you? That's right. I was involved, pretty much the only thing I've ever broken involved. Well, I'm not even necessarily very proud of it. And breaking the Lake Tahoe sexual assault stuff somehow actually came. You were the first one to get that out there. During your PFT days. So you're saying you would understand why you were blocked.

Well, a lot of people have said a lot of negative things about Ben Rathesberger. So on some level, I don't get it. But on another level, it makes no sense. Because who's defended Ben Rathesberger as an underrated, great quarterback, more than this room for the most part. I know Mark doesn't really like him, but everyone else. Oh, I appreciate him, though. I mean, I'm the one that's not blocked,

and I think it's because he's good enough that he's essentially, as a Browns fan, destroyed football for me since 2004. And maybe he said, you know, a punishment's enough already. Is there a part of you that wishes you were involved with a block party? I can't seem to get invited to any of those.

Their car won't block me, this guy won't block me. So I am feeling a little left out. And people that are hitting me up about the car situation, we're working on it behind the scenes. to broker a piece between Derrick Carr, the Raiders quarterback, and at least half of the around the NFL podcast. So stay tuned on that.

Anyway, but Big Ben is coming back. Mike Tomlin released a statement. As an organization, we have been hopeful that Ben would return this year. I can't even read the rest of the statement. Obviously, he was always going to come back, and everybody had to go through the whole process, including releasing a statement. Right.

But now we can get to the just fully looking ahead of the Steelers' offense that has the potential to put up 30 points a game if everything clicks, right? This is what you've done, Ben Rathesberger. You've made Mike Tomlin release ridiculous statements. A proud man like Tomlin has to put together some nonsense. Get it together. Maybe this is why you've been blocked, Craig. I am excited about this Steelers' offense,

but it's worth noting Ben Rathlisberger, I think at his worst season in a long time. He was still very, very good. I had him as my number 10 quarterback on the QB index at the end of the year So I went back and looked like Where was he ranked the last five years before that? He had never been below six

So he's still great But maybe didn't have as good a season last year For what it's worth as he did years previous And a jelt a reminder in this era When we expect all great quarterbacks to play till 43 Tony Romo just retired at 36 because he's beat up Ben Rothesberger is turning just turned 35 He's not a spring chicken any

anymore. It's not not like crazy for guys who retired in their mid to late 30, so we don't know how much time we have left with this guy. It also wouldn't be crazy if he has the best season of his career this year. Absolutely. This reminds me of three years ago when everybody decided Tom Brady was no longer elite just because he had kind of a good year instead of a superstar year. And I think Ben Rothesberger really struggled because they ran the offense through Levion Bell from midseason on instead of running it through Ben Rathesburger. So there's adjustment there. They didn't have a number two receiver basically all year because Martavis Bryant was out. And the tight end was concussed for most of the second half of the

season. Do we wonder at all? Because if we say the Denver Broncos, they got off the Tony Romo train at some point because they weren't convinced he was 100% plugged into the quest of winning a Super Bowl, that Big Ben has been going back and forth in his mind, a guess, to some degree, saying I'm not sure I still want to play football. Then, you know, his website sends out a tweet saying, I'm all in, you're going to get my best effort. But do we question how, where is football in his life at this point? Well, I think that's what he was trying to figure out. And Art Rooney said a couple weeks ago that I think it was mostly just frustration coming

out of the tough loss in the AFC championship game, which is fine. But maybe don't, you know, don't put us all on this roller coaster bend for three months. Well, it's a good idea for them to draft a quarterback. He was a guy. It's worth mentioning that people thought, will he, age well. And we'll see. He's aged pretty well, but early in his career wasn't known for mastering the game

mentally. I think he's gotten past that a little bit, but we'll see if he age as well. Let's move on and talk about the Philadelphia Eagles, who had a bit of a hole on their defensive line after Benny Logan left in free agency to sign with the Chiefs. So they addressed that in a trade

last week. They acquired defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan and the number 99 overall pick in this month's draft. in exchange for, with the Baltimore Ravens, in exchange for the draft 74th overall pick, the two teams announced on Tuesday. So basically, Wes, the Ravens moved up 25 spots,

got into the third round. Ozzie Newsom has four picks in the first 78, 1647, 74, and 78. Good trade? Seemed like a sensible trade from both sides. The Ravens have three or four defensive linemen. They've drafted in the past couple of years. they want to see these young players play, and they got frustrated with Jernigan last year.

There were games where he looked like the best defensive linemen on the field, and then there were games where he disappeared, and I think they just got frustrated with his inconsistency, but he's considered a much better fit for Jim Schwartz's wide nine scheme in Philadelphia, so he'll plug in. I believe he'll be playing some three technique there. An exceptionally high ceiling for a player that you just moved down 25 picks in the draft for. I know it's only one year of him,

But that seems like a great deal for the Eagles, especially because, you know, days later, and I don't know if the Eagles knew about this already, Bo Allen, who is their back-up nose tackle, who played a lot for them last year, Torres pectoral muscle in off-season workouts and might miss much of the season. Moving on. The Atlanta Falcons and Desmond Truffant did some business. They agreed to terms on a five-year extension worth $68.75 million, with $42 million and guaranteed, money to remain in Atlanta on Saturday. A source informed told NFL Network Insider Ian Rappaport.

The team later confirmed that extension. This has been something that had been cooking for a while. Truffant suffered a pectoral injury that ended his season last year, but he's 26 years old, a very strong player. And Greg, what does this mean to the Atlanta secondary? I think it means Richard Sherman's not coming. I don't think he ever was. I think when you pay a guy in Truffant a better money, really,

than Stefan Gilmer and A.J. Bouillet got, you're not going to bring in another cornerback that's making $12 million, especially when you have multiple good young players at the position. It's a good young secondary in Atlanta. He's been a better player than Stefan Gilmore and A.J. Bouillet. I feel ridiculous. I went on NFL Network saying that Richard Sherman and the Falcons were the best fit in my mind. Absolutely utterly ridiculous commentary.

that somehow snuck on to the television system. Your logic was there, though. I think last week on Monday, I said some news about Romo indicated he wanted to play football again, and he retired almost despite me 10 hours later. Well, fair. We're on fire. You think he took, he was taking to you a little bit there.

I think he heard it, and he said, for maximum pain. He's like, let's get the wheels moving on his decision now, simply based around Greg Rosenthal's appearance on the NFL network. Because they just signed Robert Alford, too, for a lot of money. And they have Jalen Collins, who I think showed some signs of being pretty good. Brian Poole will play well. I mean, it's a nice little group. You know, we forgot as part of the Eagles.

Give up a lot of yards and points. Yeah, that's a fair point. We forgot as part of this Eagles thing. We almost got Matt McLeoyne into the show. I'm putting them back into the show. Matt McLean has a job. I'm not giving up on Matt McGloin Nation. Well, all right.

Do you want to get into it a little bit? I didn't have printed up your article. Got, he's the number three quarterback in Philadelphia. Area camp arm. He makes the team. Good to see him back in the league. If they keep three quarterbacks. They didn't all last year, so we'll find out what they decided.

Not a podcast goes by where Greg isn't crowing over some mediocre quarterback or another. Matt McLean, also a very block-heavy individual. I think he's had a negative effect on Derrick Carr, in fact. Also blocked many, many people. And, hey, Matt, if you're listening, you can block me. I don't care. every winner here is still friendly with him on Twitter I don't know

I'm not even going to check don't care that's basically what I'm saying maybe he's a nice guy I don't know everybody's got to calm down with them well all you know not a great sign that Bill O'Brien didn't go after him because he coached them in college

yeah president company excluded everybody's going to calm down with the blocking of people you know Wes can Wes yeah that's I don't know how that works you know everybody just calm down blocking people like you know I'm going to keep blocking people.

Yeah, you're fine. Okay. You kind of, you're one of the masters of it. But some people don't have the same level of just, they don't have the grobby toss when it comes to the way West does. And those people need to calm down. I like when, and we won't mention names here, when you were blocked by a reporter from our own company.

Oh, what a story that was. Incredibly awkward, a very strange situation. That reporter who is currently employed by this company and is on television on a near daily basis, the unnamed reporter I sent an email basically saying what gives this is when I was writing news still

and I said hey if I'm going to do my job individual you need to unblock me so I could see your reporting earth to reporter X and reporter X

swiftly unblocked me but never replied to the email one of the more awkward scenarios because we tracked it all weekend long and you were texting a bunch of us and trying to think what's going on. It was Christmas Eve. I remember that when I was a couple years ago now. Yeah. A few years back. This person ruined your Christmas. Well, let's calm down with that. I definitely didn't ruin my Christmas. But I have since learned that that reporter has, let's just say, strained relationships with many people.

So I don't take it personally. That could apply to many. You've somehow remained vague. That's good. I think that's important. Also in the news, I couldn't use this headline for dot com because it would have gotten red flag, but I'll use it here. Cupid concussed. Aaron Rogers and Olivia Munner done. The relationship of three years is over. I would say a controversial relationship, one that led to Aaron Rogers being in the public eye on a different. level than he was prior when his brother was on the Bachelorette and Aaron and Jordan's

issues became public knowledge. A lot of people pointed to Ms. Munn as the root of all the problems, which led to more awkwardness. I don't know whatever happened with that. I'm not tracking this too closely, but I will say that she is now out of the picture. So if you see Aaron and Jordan hanging out again anytime soon, go ahead, connect some dots. I mean a relationship involving a Hollywood actress and a star quarterback. It was three years. That's longer than I would have thought a relationship like that would last. Are you getting choked up?

Totally lost my voice. No, totally lost my voice. I like the idea of you started to cry. No, it was not a moment of emotion. I just. Bring those violins back. Mark, tell us more about your feelings about this relationship. I really have no further feelings at all.

I mean, again, I just think they overshot the over-under and how often you'd say, how long you'd think it would last. Three years would be well beyond what I think. Are you okay to do the rest of the podcast? I don't know. It might be time for me to go home, get in my car, and do something else. By the way.

Tall orders to begin with. Chicago Bears come back to us. Social media handle. Earlier this broke on Friday, Chicago Tribune had a fun tweet. Chicago, of course, the Bears, a rival of the Packers or a wannabe rival. Had a tweet,

actress Olivia Munn and boyfriend break up according to reports. Well done. Nice way to a subtle troll of Aaron Rogers, that he's just a boyfriend. Then later Friday, when some 22-year-old social media, in turn,

decided to double down on the Bears account and tweeted a picture of a disappointed Aaron Rogers with a hashtag. Something like Friday got us feeling like. That led to everyone being like, wait, what? You know, calm down. Calm down Bears.

These team accounts, if you're a football fan that follows beyond your own team's Twitter team account, are obnoxious. And by the way, if anyone's curious, Aaron Rogers is 14 and 4 in 18 games against the Bears with 38 touchdowns, nine interceptions, a pass rating of 106. Basically, he's dominated them. And then the worst part is, all right, you do it, you tweet it out. The end around wrote about this. hours later, they delete their tweet. I mean, it is a cart with the wheels spinning off.

Just get control of yourselves. Come back to us. You either put it up and deal with it and take all the criticism and any corners that are giving you accolades. Don't go halfway. No half measures here. The bears are cute. They run on batteries.

You just walk by and pat him on the head when you go by. Damn, that was blistering. They run on batteries. Nobody's afraid of them. They've got no claws. They got their teeth. Well, and it's funny. They got Mike Lennon, buddy.

That's what I'm saying. When is the last time the Bears really scared anyone? And this is one of the classic NFL franchises whose fan base are quietly just been eaten alive for decades. Their social media account pretty much is now the equivalent to their football team. It's a 3 and 13 type of thing. Oh, wow. Right? Where's the Bunsen burner when you need it?

Geez, the scientist is really going to. and taken it to a personal level. And finally in the news, NFL players participated in a made-for-TV arm wrestling tournament. This is a late ad to news, Greg. I know you like to look over at my laptop from time to time. This happened inside a Las Vegas casino,

and we're learning now, I think Rapsheet had this reported. Am I right as well? That's correct. Okay. That these players involved will be fined. I got actually some raw audio from the casino know during this event, let's listen to it now.

You got lucky again, huh, Hawks? What are you doing, bull? Better than you. Right now, double or nothing, what do you say? Let's just wait for Vegas. Come on, let's do it now. I feel like kicking some ass. Let's wait until Vegas, okay? You ain't got a prayer in Vegas.

That was actually from over the top. Over the top. Great movie. One of my favorite bad Stallone films, 1986, bomb. The ESPN report has a photo from the Las Vegas Review Journal of James Harrison and Marshawn Lynch joining each. I want to watch this. Wait, this looks like it's awesome.

James Harrison against Marshaun Lynch in arm wrestling? Yeah. Who won? I don't know. We got to watch it. It was at the MGM Grand. And by the way, the NFL, hey, you can't vote to have a team move to Vegas and then get upset when there's Vegas events going on.

revolving the NFL, right? That checks out. It's got to be problematic. There's going to be problematic things that come up. They're going to have to adjust the rules. We talked about this. If they're going to have a Super Bowl there, they're going to have to change some rules.

Here's some of the players, as I'm scrolling through this article, that we're at the event. Again, an arm wrestling tournament involving NFL players. How is there still arm wrestling in 2017? I'm surprised. How do we have superior forms of entertainment? The real news here is how little news this got. Well, it kind of snuck up on people.

It wasn't heavily promoted and perhaps by design. Patrick. Greg. Are you reading my laptop again? Most, I am. I'm going over here. Wouldn't you guys be annoyed if you're... The level of things that annoy me in general, that would be very heavily on my radar.

Patrick Chung was also there. Okay. Anyway, Harrison Lynch, Kenny Stills was there. Navarro Bowman, Marquise Pouncey, Marquette King, of course. Mario Edwards, Patrick Chung. as Greg said, the contest is scheduled to be broadcast on CBS, May 27th and 28th. I'll tell you what. Scheduled to be broadcast is an interesting way to put it because the NFL and CBS might have a conversation.

How far does Kenny Stills get in an tournament, arm wrestling tournament that involves James Harrison? There might be weight classes. That would be my guy. I don't know. And also every arm wrestling movie TV show I have ever seen, at least one contestant has his arm snapped in half. I would not want any of my players. I wouldn't want to see Mo Wilkerson on this list to name one prominent jet. There's not many.

So I get if teams are not down with it and why fines are being handed out. But the whole Vegas football thing, it's, again. It's one of the rare instances where being a Jets or Browns fan and the team is completely unmarketable from a star or talent standpoint that you come out on top. James Harrison versus the field, who are you taking? James Harrison. That's what I'm talking about. I don't, yeah.

Who's going to be James Harrison? Maybe like a Callias Campbell type. He's the arm snapper. No one on that list that you read out. That list had a couple of nobody's on it. I mean, in terms of arms wrestling talent. I wouldn't sleep on Navarra Bowman maybe,

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that's individualized to each podcast? Do they not want to know that all the undies are being purchased by around the NFL podcast listeners? Is there a conspiracy within this building to keep us down is basically what I'm saying? Seems that's a good question. Want to read between the lines?

Anybody want to read with it? me i have a little story time with sweet jack before bed each night that'd be the story we're reading tonight suppression methods of the around the NFL podcast here at NFL watch out good night moon yeah jack grows up to be a big conspiracy theorist uh do you want to talk real quick about Wesleymania Wesleymania 3 from Marina del Rey sure yeah what a great time it wasn't quite as wild as the previous iteration I think it needed to be skilled It definitely needed the invite list was scaled back with Dan's help because I would never rob him of that. If you need to have less people at something, come to me.

Right. I will whittle it down for you. That's one of my great skills. Yeah. Or drawbacks. We had some cornhole. We had some ribs and pulled pork. We had Mark dancing.

Had a great time. That's when the, you know, the night is going in a certain direction. That's not unique to Wesleyanian. It was scaled down. But yeah. No, but it was scaled down, but I know that any time that I essentially fall asleep in the Uber on the way home, that you've had a good time. It's been a good night. I mean, people, the streets are talking about those ribs.

Wes's ribs. I mean, he can always barbecue, but I think he's brought it to another level with these ribs. They were some of the most delicious barbecue I've ever had in my life. And let's not sleep on the pulled pork. No, pulled pork was great as well. And as I could tell, because I got a big-time pop on Twitter, I sent out a 90-second video of Wes massaging his pulled pork so tenderly. You could tell you have the hands of a gentle lover the way you work that meat.

I enjoy taping that. Thank you. Speaking of gentle lovers, the paramour was there and had some critique about your methods. I thought she got quite verbal about the. the layers of tinfoils surrounding me. Yeah, she did second-guess my tinfoil operator. In other words, Wes is not a single. You're right.

I forgot about that portion of the day where she wasn't very supportive of my barbecue. I'm sure she came around. Yeah, by the end. She was into the ribs, definitely. She was on the couch. What happened? Late Saturday night.

What the hell's going on out here? So a tremendous, a tremendous event. let's move on and if anybody has any memories to share there was a very no I was told not to bring it up I won't but a crazy thing

happened during Cornhole in terms of some of the competition but I will say once again the West and Zeus pairing I just don't think will ever be defeated we're right now at the Tyson

you know 1987 Michael Spinks phase where we're just destroying everyone we're starting to think think to ourselves, is this even a challenge anymore? Yeah, Greg actually called out our competitiveness or competitive fire by willing, we were willingly teammates

and Greg believes that we should be on opposing. I was saying, look, I'd throw about three games of corn a year maybe, maybe too. So I'm joining up with someone else who's, you know, not a superstar or anything. And yeah, you know, maybe I lost before I even stepped on to the boys.

But it wouldn't really matter. You think Wes and I are up at 5 a.m. together practicing corn. Two kids, I got a job. You played a lot of corn. With some of the guest list whittling down, removing people that would have been a challenge to the two of you. Not at all.

Not at all. In fact, it got rid of some of the pretenders that get annoyingly in the way at times. I would say as competitive. If you were at last year's party and you weren't at this year, you can piece that together. As competitive as Greg obviously is, the fact that he stubbornly refuses to do the spin, I mean, you have to question his competitive fire. Yeah, I should start next time. It's like a year between every game.

So it's, you know. You can come. I have a Cornhole board. Wes has Cornhole boards come over anytime and practice. Because just like he's pepper spray on the softball field, he's the old clomper with Cornhole. If you don't throw a spin and you're throwing those clomp bombs, you just got no chance against a real player. And that's Wesselmania 3 talk. Sponsored by no one.

No sponsors there. No sponsors coming. All right. Let's have a little fun. Again, it's April 10th. So back off. I don't want to hear from you. We're just trying to have some fun here.

And what we're going to talk about now is a tweet. Let me find the tweet. Here it is. All right, if you could send it to me. I could also look over at your laptop so you can know what my life's like. I don't know. I don't know West could just read it out loud. Well, first, Josh Lanski, one of our listeners, sent a tweet,

asking seriously Romo or Favre question mark. As in who had the better career? And I was like, well, this isn't even a conversation. It's far by leaps and bounds. And he followed up with, can you at least get on board with this comparison? Tony Romo, the Rolling Stones, Brett Farve, the Beatles. My response was no. Brett Favrelling Stones, Tony Romo, Rolling Stones tribute band.

Okay. Which Greg thought was a little harsh. That was very strong. In fact, I think you're both almost equally wrong. You and Josh? I mean, Romo has been called a poor man's farve many times. He's not in the league of Brett Farv, but calling him a tribute band, I think, is underserving Tony Romo's great career. And so we started throwing out, okay, well, then who Tony Romo would be, hence a segment is born.

And by the way, I will say this. I do like Brett Farv as the Rolling Stones, because if you're set up on faulty logic, then the whole exercise is a mess. I do think that is good. I agree. That works. A gifted, they're both gifted, prolific. They've had ups and down. A bit dangerous.

Little rebellion. A little rebellion in there. I like it. So that's a good one. Well, I've got who I think should be from all now. I've thought about this. Let's hear it. He's R.E.M.

He's an indie band with modest beginnings that no one saw coming came out of the gate with just talent ablazing. A beautiful decade to the point where the expectations are raised so high that when their career kind of falls off a cliff and goes nowhere suddenly they're mocked a little bit, but it's unfair expectations. Think of what they did as just this little band from Athens. I like that.

I have a different one. Okay. The band. They were never named anything other than the band because they started out as Bob Dylan's backup band. They were just his backup guys, never got a real name. They were the band. Tony Romo, undrafted, starts out as Drew Bledso's backup,

and then probably underappreciated. just like the band over the length of their careers because they started out with such humble beginnings. I like that. So you're saying kind of a good band, but not in all time. I think the band is phenomenal. I think the R.E.M. one's really good.

The only issue I have with it is that there was a time in the early 90s when R&M was arguably the biggest band in the world. Was Tony Romo ever the period? In terms of fame and in terms of headlines, he wasn't necessarily the best ever, but he was maybe the biggest. I like where you went with that.

What do you got, Mark, for a row mode? Do you have anything? I honestly was convinced until about four minutes ago that this segment was a joke. Mark missed this part of the meeting because he had to go to makeup. Let me come back to you on that way. The one I thought about it because I did like the general discussion that the Rolling Stones and then the Rolling Stones tribute band, what is kind of like a real Rolling Stones tribute band, Arrowsmith, who were always Stones light.

They had some really high highs, some embarrassing lows. which Romo certainly had. But the biggest disconnect there was Tony knew one to quit. Aerosmith never did. So then I thought about another band, White Stripes. Also some good-looking blondes in the mix

in terms of the Aerosmith video. Romo's love life. I'll throw a more modern rock or recent modern rock band. White Stripes, the genre-defining, polarizing to some, better than people realized.

And they knew when to get out before it got to pressing, like Tony. So I like this. But I like your R.A.M. one. A lot. anybody else got a different mark who do you have any i really i think gregg for me knocked it out of the park i have others yeah yeah that's right oh you want a whole different quarterback yeah let's just go around how about this uh for rg three oh no i go nina oh right 99 left balloons makes her that was

her 99 red balloons makes her a classic example of a one hit wonder if your rg three you had one year where you were wonderful you were fantastic you were capturing the imagination. It's a song, 99 Red Balloons. It'll be around as long as modern radio is around forever. It always get play because of that one thing he did. He'll always be remembered, but then it quickly came to a crash for Nina. Will Nina always be remembered?

That song. I don't think most people even know that Nina sang it. But I would just say RG3 did one thing that made him incredibly memorable in the history of football. He had perhaps, he's perhaps the greatest one-year wonder ever in the NFL. So that's a fun one because you could insert any great one-hit wonder in there, such as you get what you give by New Radicals. That's one of my favorite one-hit wonders. 99 left balloons is obviously an all-time one-hit wonder.

I mean, he will always be, no matter what happens, he will have won the rookie of the year over Andrew Luck and Russell will. And deserved it. Like that didn't. And fully deserved it that year. He was electrifying. I've got both Manning brothers. All right, let's hear it.

Peyton, you two. I got that too. Universally beloved, a compendium spanning decades, but ultimately a little safe. Yeah, I had. That works. This was my description. Peyton Manning, you two, long durable career, set a ton of records, won many awards, tons of fans, but also a vocal contingent of haters. Yeah.

Eli Manning, the spin doctors. Oh, that is, that's rough. Two hits in their career and ultimately very annoying. Terrible job, Wes. Spend doctors, Eli Manning. I think you're Spind Doctor and your preferences or non-preferences for Eli Manning. Less. What?

That's terrible. It's true. How about how about that? They're kind of known for being, they're almost like a punchline, though. Yeah. I mean, the longevity of Eli Manning has a completely different feel to me than Spin Doctor. Well, the whole point is. People think that the longevity is there, but he's only been a good quarterback like a couple of times in his career.

How about Eli Manning is Oasis? First two albums were tremendous, two titles, and then everything after was kind of, you know, that works, a letdown. I mean, Oasis are known for being, like, edgy. Like, they don't get along with each other. It's always having fights and stuff. Eli is, like, the least likely to ever get in a fight of anything. Spind Doctors OS, that is, I mean, that is beyond a troll job.

Because here's where the logic breaks down. You're saying that winning two Super Bowl titles is the equivalent of Little Miss Can't Be Wrong and two princes. That's belittling winning a Super Bowl title because those aren't good songs, but there's nothing better than winning two. So it would have to be two great songs or two great albums. Otherwise, you're just trolling the quarterback. I am trolling the quarterback.

All right, well, we have that out. All right, you acknowledged it at least. Let's see. How about, Greg, you got another one? No, go for it. All right. How about Russell Wilson is Taylor Swift? Hyper-successful, relentlessly polished, media-savvy as hell,

an undeniable talent who may be a huge phony. Oh. I can't argue with any of that. Maybe. I don't know if Taylor Swift is a phony or if Russell Wilson is, but the rest of it is a very good comparison. Some people have stated that about both. No, I know.

I just personally don't know. I think there's a level of calculation that people, you know, blanch at. I think Russell Wilson and Taylor Swift would even admit they're calculated. Calculation is not a bad thing when you're trying to build a career. There's an entire Sports Illustrated. article, which caught your ride years ago about how calculated Russell Wilson is about building in his image. I think that. With all his buddies in the luxury box.

I think that's a home run comparison. I got one for you. Okay, go ahead. Both of these come out of San Francisco in terms of what we think about. Ooh. The Grateful Dead and Steve Young. Now, Steve Young was not outsmoking pot like a crazy person, so he's not the followers. He's not the followers of the Grateful Dead.

So that part maybe a little bit. But when you think about Steve Young and the highlight films of his. him and his games in general, poetry, wild rhythms, riffing, creativity, totally unpredictable. If you listen to it like an hour, two hour long thing from the dead, they don't play the same song the same way ever. They do the good things good, but they go completely experimental. And I think that Steve Young had that experimental feel to him. I like that.

I had a different Grateful Dead staying in the Bay Area, a guy who went to college at Cal Berkeley, Aaron Rogers. A lot of improv to his game, like a jam-bang quarterback. back? I think the Steve Young one works too. Sid, what do you think about that? The greatest BYU athlete of all time. Steve Young, you okay with that? I really wish I knew more about the Grateful Dead to have an opinion on this.

I am stunned that you're not deeply into the Grateful Dead. See, you mentioned Aaron Rogers. And ever since I noticed during our show that Mark derisively made fun of Chance the Rapper in our Slack channel or our Instant Myth, he said he was going to compare every QV to chance the rapper just to seem cool. Hey, look at me. I know about Chance the rapper. Yeah, I mean, it's a little ridiculous.

I realized the other night, Chance, Chance the rapper is on Mark's radar. Yeah, he is. Or at least people that like Chance. So, yeah, I'll let you explain why you think it is, but I'll explain why. So, you know, that got on my radar because who else has, you know, talked about Chance? I love lots of hip-hop, but Chance certainly right now would be number one for me. We were doing a dance off. people were going back and forth playing

songs. I'll explain why. And I will say this, Chance the Rapper seems extremely talented. Just at Wesselmania? Westlania. When Chance the Rapper songs were about, no one's dancing. No one's moving. No one played, no one played Chance. You were talking about another time entirely. But right

here, I'm going to say Aaron Rogers is Chance the Rapper. I mean, I knew this was coming. Well, it wasn't. The only reason it's coming is because I just read that during the show. So when Dan came to me, I'm thinking, Hamana, Hamana, who's Chance the rapper. It's Aaron Rogers because Aaron Rogers can do anything. Chance can sing. Chance can flow. He can do a fast song. He can do a slow song. He can do emotion. Like anything you

want if you want to improvise, whatever. Aaron Rogers does every little thing. Like he can do everything, any attribute you want in a quarterback. He can at least do like 90% of the best quarterback out there. And that's kind of what I think with Chance to Rapper, like his new, you know, like every song is a little different. I will spend a week. I'll spend a week. I'll spend a week. listening exclusively to his music to see no because I'm willing to change my mind I just I know sometimes it's just like I get it he was not going to be name drop him every time we talk about music so that we seem so progressive he's not written down by me but once I saw this here's channel I took it's the counter I have that the only problem Aaron Rogers is an all time great chance will be chance can be that's why I'll put him I'm making Marcus Marriota okay well I like has all the tools and can be great but we don't know yet I know you're lock locking it up, bro. You lock it up? I'm locking it up. Being an all-time, great MC.

Okay. Good for you. All right. Let's do some Tom Brady's. All right. I'll start. Tom Brady is Radiohead. Keeps going and going and going without any obvious signs of decline. Scene keeps changing, but he, like Radiohead, remain a constant. And Brady might be an Android. I like that part

And when Brady finally does retire Guess who's coming for the Patriots The Karma Police He sold me You didn't have me early but you sold me I have the Beatles for Tom Brady I think that one The greatest

And there are people These people I never trust Who claim they hate the Beatles That's fine but you cannot You cannot refute their virtuosity They had the biggest impact of any band. I don't know where else you go other than the Beatles. That occurred.

I like that. Although the radio had thing, at first I didn't quite get it, and then now I kind of see it. Because when you're bumping creep on your headphones while mowing lawns in eighth grade like I was, you would have never thought this could go down as an all-time band. This could have been a one-hit wonder. And, you know, kind of from, you know, again,

kind of slipping under the radar, always. He's overachieving expectation. I stayed away from the Beatles is just like in real music, I find that they have nobody that compares to them. The fact that they started off one way and just turned into something totally different, which I guess maybe. Brady did because he was like, you know, he was like a game manager at first. He's like in his India portion right now, and who knows what will happen.

He's like in the portion where Bob Dylan got him hooked on drugs, and now he's expanded his whole game. Oh, by the way, we love to play some. some music. Yes. But I have been talked to multiple times by Shadowy League figures about this rights issue. So let's play some music. Here is some Rolling Stones.

Well, kind of like the Rolling Stones. Oh, yeah. Rock and roll. Same thing. Now, this is not the Rolling Stones. Let me make that clear. But it could be. See, little horns.

Are you sure it's not? Stone's had that R&B vibe to him. This is like the Tony Romo version of the Stone. Okay, you wanted to hear, you like Chance the Rapper? Yes, obviously. But you obviously can't, we can't play it on the show because SLF issues. Well, here's what Chance the rapper kind of sounds like. This is from our music library.

It's cleared. This is kind of what rap sounds like. Did I hear Lauren Hill in there? I thought I did too. I feel like there's a lot of... Anyone else? You want to hear the greatest, the Beatles, the best band ever? All right.

This is what... What's happening? Now imagine, you know, come together or something off Revolver or even one of their early songs, I want to hold your hand. But this is, you know, or Hey Jude maybe, This is kind of what the Beatles sound like, if you don't know. It's kind of what the Beatles are. It's just if you don't know.

Sounds like a bad 80s pop song. If you've never experienced the Beatles, you don't need to do any more research than this. George Harrison. Listen to Harrison noodling. Pick up some sitar. It's like the Beatles, like, move to, like, the 80s and soundtrack Miami Vice. Sounds more like Pantera. All right.

Enough of that. You want to know who's Air Supply? Who? Alex Smith. I like that one. Your mom's soft rock, but every once in a while you can catch yourself singing along to it. You can convince yourself that he's not that bad. And then you're like, oh, he's so limited.

It's like listening to Mom Soft Rock and your minivan. Relatedly, Andy Dalton is Coldplay. Yes. I like him. But I get it if you don't. I get it. I get why you don't like him. Jay Cutler's Nickelback.

Oh. I found a group, a Scottish funk and R&B band from the 7th. in early 80s that represent Brian Hoyer, their title, average white band. Oh, they pick up the pieces, cut the cake? Yeah. You said Jay Cutler, I had counting crows. Only the biggest of the diehards are hanging around at this point.

Yeah. Greg. His body is a subjective conversation. It's a major conversation piece. Not quite for the same reasons, but. I had Mike Lennon and his train. that works okay that's fair i don't even i don't even have an explanation i don't like that you need to i don't like that much higher upside than train roger stalbach is talking heads why is that one of the

great bands of all time but never recognized as one of the great bands of all time fair enough i will give you anybody else i have a prediction it's not where this it's what this person's going to turn into who jimmy garoppolo yes right now he's this british group called wham and he's his own guy obviously. It doesn't really work on the Tom Brady side, but he's going to become George Michael and have an incredible solo career once he breaks free from the current thing he's in. Let's hear what a band that might sound like Wham a little bit.

Let it rip. Oh, this is Wham. 100%. Just making our point. You turn this up a little bit, sir? This is playing on the jukebox and the max on loop. All right. We're allowed to play this for as long as we want, right?

Keep it underneath the show the whole time. I remember back in my youth listening to Scotty Farrell, who was syndicated on WFAN, and he would just have rock music going underneath his voice the whole time. This keeps the show moving, baby. That guy drove me nuts. I'm on his show, like, a few times a year. I like him.

He's one of the best hosts to talk to. But that period where it was constant rock music, Like, I'd play off the end in the middle of the night. That was ridiculous. Yeah, he dropped that. Before anybody else, have another one before we move on? All right. Johnny Unitas is CCR.

You can listen to CCR all day. You can just watch Johnny Unitas play all day. Nothing but hits. It's been maybe too esoteric, but Phil Rivers is Lucinda Williams. A lot of heartbreak. There's going to be some good seasons. There's going to be some good albums. There's going to maybe be some down seasons, some down albums.

But each one's going to have a lot of emotion. A lot that's bringing you back. A lot of people with Bolo ties are listening to it. Right. They kind of sound the same when they're talking. I love Lucinda. Kirk Cousins is the Black Keys. Nobody's sure whether he's good or kind of shit.

As Sidney writes down a note to make an edit to the show. Oh, we're on, by the way, we're on NFL networks up to the minute. Yeah, we've got to go. On Tuesday as well. It'll be too late. We're also on Monday. It'll be too late for those listening to this podcast. But we are on Tuesday around 545 years.

Eastern time, if you want to check that out. They're putting us on fairly regularly right now, which is good. Four times last week. Yeah, we'll see. That's five to six every day. You've got time for a couple of iTunes, don't we? We have time for a couple iTunes reviews, yeah. Let me bring it up.

By the way, I want to give a pop to the subreddit. We want to get that up to 5,000 people. As Mark buttons his teeth. Oh, Mark. I'm just coming off a segment where we played piped-in crap music to save our asses. I ain't going to go on network with my top button buttoned looking like some hooligan. I like how you connected that.

I mean, that was... That's pretty good. I think you kind of put me in my place. I thought you were going to be maybe starting a whole new trend in the game with a top button. I thought I was starting to get used to it, is what I'm saying. I like this.

This is classy look as well, but I miss you. It's just like just typical white guy wearing a shirt. A couple of iTunes. Oh, yeah. So check out the subreddit around the NFL. What is? Is it around the NFL on Reddit? Yes.

Okay. Check that out and, you know, subscribe to it. And let's try to get that to $5,000. Let's check out some iTunes reviews. Again, leave, please leave reviews and five stars or zero stars if you don't like the show, whatever you want. But that helps with iTunes and we believe how they calibrate their rankings. So let's just read a few. The most recent one comes from a man

Michael with 11 L's. They don't stay on subject, one star. I hate when podcast don't stay on subject. The first 10 minutes of this podcast was these dudes messing around no football stories at all. I'm surprised he chose that one. Hey, listen, that was the first one that popped up.

I will add that as the host, I know for a fact that very rarely goes beyond five minutes not talking nonsense. Ten minutes? You're a liar. Can't please everyone, nor do we try to. Next one from New England Pac-Fan 33.

Wait a second. Can't be a Patriots and a Packers fan. But I'll let you off the hook because you put five stars with the headline, make this two hours long. Greg's nightmare. Love listening to everyone at work. I wish this podcast was two hours long, atmosphere is fantastic.

That reminded me of on Saturday, John Gonzalez, Gonzo, Colleen Wolf's husband. Oh, thank you, Greta. Who's his, Gonzo, you speak? He says sometimes he's woken up by our voices because Colleen will be, like, getting ready for the day and listening to our podcast, which sounds like a dystopian nightmare.

Very uncomfortable. This one, Dan, five stars by Longhorn, 99-55. I mean come back to us No really come back to us this way I need an Uber Well done Remember the Uber joke? Oh yeah

You guys forgot already Yeah I did Do you ever listen to that pod mark I have no idea what you're talking about Okay let's move Hey listen Let's keep moving This one garbage one star

Screw that guy Um Barba ba Garbage Five stars Daniel Jeremiah is a tool great podcast though Wow Is that written by Dan Hanses It was written by AJS

But I understand the sentiment Another five stars So much better than move the sticks DJ just ruins that show Daniel come back to us Now DJ ruins the show where he's the host Awful one star Cleo Lemon I don't know how people listen to this

Do yourself a favor download move the sticks instead. Oh. It's sort of a turf war breaking out. Yeah, this is annoying. By the way, you know, Cleo Lemon, love that guy back in the day on that dolphins team. Shocking that you love up.

Memorable moment, save them from going 0 and 16. Way to go, Cleo. You wrote that review. We get it. Too beautiful for this world. Five stars by the SoCal Bears guy. Five stars aren't good enough for ATM. The heroes are the four in one singled face.

Mount Rushmore a podcast. No other house in the neighborhood, hands of stealing the headlines. Sessler's not so subtle critique of the world. Wessling's manufactured Southern Charm. What? I don't think he means that negatively. Add a splash of Sid. And Greg, with words or something, flawless imperfection.

What does that mean? Lawless imperfection. Manufactured. Do you guys want to hear the rules? review worse than nails on a chalkboard one star yes gary bruin these pundits sound like they have clothespins clamped on their nostrils during the podcast and that's the most best aspect the most best aspect huh gary bruin you're an idiot i wish i could get back those 30 minutes of my life i wanted listening to their platitudes i they got it's funny he's including words like platitudes but

then has no basic command of the English language. Nails on the chalkboard is easier on the ears. All right. Well, that might explain a few things. There's an extended Gilgans island analogy with five stars. A little too long to read. Who's ginger? More outdated than our music references.

Best football podcast, Sandy Moore is all right. These guys are great, super insightful and ridiculously silly. Love the return of you're the GM. I hope I see Greg someday so I could turn to my friends and loudly proclaim oh my God that's NFL.com's Greg Rosenthal

Good but not great three stars I like that how we're getting there somebody zeroing in on the actual truth here Farn 13 this podcast walks the line between obnoxious morning radio show

that relies on drops and informative football commentary when the podcast stays on the topic of football and refrains from singing. I feel like this is pointed at someone on the show. The show can be great. I enjoy the ultra-serious goons who have any issues with me being on the show.

You are a person I would never be friends with and you'll never be in the trust tree and just consider this podcast enemy territory for you. If you're an overly serious person, stick it in your ear. If you want dry football talk, you can find it online. Lots of podcasts all over the Internet.

Yeah. And you'll fall asleep listening to it. We'll fall asleep providing it if we go that direction. Anyway, a lot of reviews, a lot of fun. Mostly five-star reviews, some bad ones. But the people that leave the bad reviews, I find them to be the flawed people and the ones that leave the good reviews to be good people. That's how I look at it.

I think also we get Sidney onto that site and have her scrub anything that even wreaks of a negative review. Let's get on that. Let's get on that, Sid. Thank you very much. All right. We got to go. We got to do our NFL network hit live in a few minutes. So that's it.

We'll be back on Wednesday with yet another episode. And then again, a reminder, Thursday, we will have a show. And then also 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific. We will video stream that entire show, fun times. So if you like the video show, if you want it back during the regular season, make sure you check that out and I think it would be good for everyone involved. And we promise not to make it one of those video podcasts

where it ruins the audio show. That's our promise to you. Let's go. This is Dan Hansa signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the boss, a new money behind the glass. Till Wednesday. Calliope, one of the great words in the English language.

Solid, solid word. Also used by Bruce Springsteen in a song. It's the calliope that we all travel along sometimes. I don't know what a calliope is. Is that a game? It's like a music device on a steamboat ship. Oh, okay. I believe, is that right, Mark?

Don't look at me. Did we start the podcast over to talk about this? I've never been on a steam show. I've never been on a ship that you've named right there. Forget about it. What is happening? Let's do this one more time. Hold on.

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